Thread 723712797

Looks like the "You will buy it anyway" slogan isn't just a meme after all.

Pokémon fans are the ultimate slop eaters

>>723712797 (OP)
200k is a small number to reach a profit

>>723712797 (OP)
I just don't get how you can grow up in the 90s/2000s and not be disappointed in the direction of the franchise. As kids I'm sure we all imagined an expansive, rich world to explore with our Pokemon. They're the most profitable games of all time, they should be making good games.

>>723712797 (OP)
This is also the largest budge game so imagine the profits SwSh and SV did.

>>723712797 (OP)
If this was a kickstarter game that managed to raise its budget people would say they got scammed.

>>723712797 (OP)
Amazon Japan already cleared that....

>>723712797 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWbSg0VOSgg

>>723712926
What makes you think k Pokemon fans aren’t disappointed? That’s not the problem. The problem is they’re disappointed and buy it anyway

>>723712940
Lmao true. Pokefags are on a whole other level of subhuman cattle.

It's not even slop at this point, they just sharted in a bowl and put a spoon in it

>>723712797 (OP)
The majority of pokefags are literal children. They don't have critical thinking.

>>723712926
It doesn't matter what the slave feels if he keeps the chain on.

>>723712926
I grew up in that era having only watched friends enjoy the games from afar. I've only seen bits and pieces of the anime but I played Violet on Switch 2 recently and thought it was a perfect representation of the original IP's vision

>>723713023
The difference in quality between the character models and literally everything else is funny to me

>>723713157
The number of actual kids caring about pokemon is dwindling, the series is hard carried by millennials

>>723712926
The issue is there is no incentive to make a good game. Faggots buy it anyway even if its the worst game of this gen no dif and costs 70 bucks and has paid online and DLC. If the company has no incentive to make a better product they will just cost cut to see how bad they can make it before it stops selling. As we see with legends ZA they can basically put out the lowest effort slop and it will still sell the same as all previous titles. Not to mention their main profits are in the cards and then plushies/accesoirs.

>>723712797 (OP)
Makes sense when it took $5 to make and has 0 quality assurance

>>723713183
But it looks like shit, it should look like this png literally.

>>723713023
*whistling noise*
D-D-D-DIGIMON

>>723713023
Why did Diancie crap all over the city?

>>723713157
>majority is children
kek, its all fat balding autistic man in their 30s just like MTG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Ni0pEh_hY

>>723713023
People are stressing about other companies using AI to generate games. But this shit is in line with what an AI game should be look like. Look at those fucking UVs. You're telling me chatgpt couldn't come up with that?

>if I keep calling it slop maybe it won’t sell trillions of copies
sad

>>723713183
>violet
>forced to ride ugly motorcycle partner
>nothing to do the whole game
>5 FPS
>Bugs out the ass
ah yes the pokemon experience of the 90s and 2000s

>>723713157
No they're retard autists who can't have their comfort series criticised.

>>723713476
jeet post

>>723713319
What the fuck is those things on the head of the bald guy? They look like...headphones? The shit quality of the picture makes impossible to tell.

>>723712797 (OP)
lol lmao, they invested less to deliver the lowest quality slop ever and poketardlenials will defend it with tendies

>>723713546
Jeet game lol

>>723712926
It's so incredibly sad that they didn't keep genius sonority around and have them work with the technology of today on a mainline title. Fuck, I think the spin-offs actually do get more budget than game freak has to work with.. how backwards is that? Very grim that this series has become Game Freak-s usual shop + shitty gachas on mobile.
And I get it theyve always milked people for money but there used to be ar least some illusion of soul and effort

>>723713429
>>723713537
Kingdom Hearts, 2002.

>>723713607
>no u
jeet kek

>>723713486
Nigger just because nintendo cultivated 20 mil professional shiteaters doesnt mean its not an absolute lowest effort turd.

>>723713183
They should literally be making the games on par with the 3DS concept art as some anon posted. THAT'S what we imagined as kids.

>>723713665
Eat your slop, Tendie

>>723712797 (OP)
Who writes this shit? Even if the development budget is pretty low, Pokémon's marketing budget is huge and it still needs to be accounted for

>>723713157
Nope most poketards are fuckers born in the 1980s

for once I am ashamed to be a millennial

>>723713693
>NOOOOOOOO LE SHILLSLOP AUTISTIC DISNET ADULT MANCHILDREN TRANNY BROWN *checks notes* REDDIT SLOP
you lost and got raped and that’s all you’ll ever be

>>723713693
It cracks me up the way the rat smells the guys ass before spazzing out

>>723713359
>>723713716
makes me sad lol

>>723713747
jeet
LMFAO

>>723713359
It does, without all the biomes being represented in a single screenshot. Unless you include the terrarium DLC

>>723713023
What is broken emulation supposed to show?

>>723712893
Yeah, thats the point retard.

>>723712797 (OP)
>WHOA GUYS KIT AND KRYSTA DID BASIC FUCKING MATH FROM THE LEAKED BUDGET DATA

>>723713716
What game looks like this

>>723712797 (OP)
>gen 5 flopped hard despite being the best and most polished version of the game formula, alongside a great story, great lore and innovations while stuck on a small device
>the ultra giga slop of gen 9, literally the bare minimum of the effort involved while the brand has become the richer it has ever been is selling gorillions even with literal dogshit like SV and ZA

How…why?!

>>723713664
I understand Pokemon is a semi-spinoff that has to run on OG Switch and they need to release another game next year, but it is crazy that KH mogs it so hard. It's not even close.

>>723713958
it looks like shit man.

>>723713992
Thanks for regurgitating my point retard

>>723714036
A game the most profitable franchise in the world could make.

>>723713157
>>723713252
>>723713429
It's kind of true but kids are buying the cards, playing Pokemon GO and playing TCG mobile.

Kids just want gambling and their ipads/iphones

>>723714082
>game footage not final
didn't even try to be honest

>>723713359
This image is filled with impossible space

>>723713537
You don't have to ride anything.
There are gym badges to collect, team star bases to beat, becoming the champion and going to Area Zero.
He said he played it on Switch 2, so it was 4K60.
Bugs were only present in the co-op mode and we're fixed years ago.

At least pretend you know what you are shitposting about.

My hot-take opinion, I vastly prefer the Pokemon TCG over mainline Pokemon games.

The leaked gen 10 screenshot does look nice but im fully convinced it will be downgraded by release

>>723714147
So no game. Gotcha

>kids playing Pokémon
hahaha blud, is unc serious? That shitbis ancient garbo

Does it count if I buy Z-A for my cousin? It's not a gift (that was a Pokemon TCG set), he has the money but not a debit/credit card to buy online so I paid for him and he will give me the money next weekend.

>>723713537
Game was 60fps with no bugs

>>723712797 (OP)
200,000 copies? What is their development budget? That's ludicrous

>>723713961
Simply an emulator glitch.

>>723714165
That's still literally what it looks like.

is that supposed to be a flex lol

>>723713693
nerve gas?

>>723714429
breh this shit looks worse than some high school game dev submission for class

>>723714281
Nta, but it should look like Ni No Kuni/Dragon Quest latest games or better. In the Pokemon artstyle.

>>723712926
>I just don't get how you can grow up in the 90s/2000s and not be disappointed in the direction of the franchise
By growing up in the 80s and 90s where people didn't care about graphics and performance while also doing their own research into games.
This
>I'm sure we all imagined an expansive, rich world to explore with our Pokemon. They're the most profitable games of all time, they should be making good games.
Is a gen z mindset because you've grown up being told what to like instead of having your own opinions.

>>723714165
>game footage not final
Past final footage shows it only increases marginally.

>>723713657
>It's so incredibly sad that they didn't keep genius sonority
They were literally folded into GF

>>723714573
a goyim to surpass gen alpha

You're all delusional slop eating fucking faggots and we have this thread about every IP. Remember when all of you were going to protest Call of Duty for piss poor multiplayer servers and then every single one of you fucking animals bought it anyways? None of you, not a single one, are immune to corporate propaganda. Corporate hegemonic control over vidya is everyone's fault and I'm going to KILL you for it.

>>723712797 (OP)
We know they shit these games out with barely any effort or expense, so this isn't surprising.

>>723714514
Game does look like that. It lacks the unreal engine assets pack of DQXI. Are you suggesting the game should look more like UE

>>723714674
I never bought a single Call of Duty game in my life. But if I did, it would be COD 2. The game peaked there and was downhill ever since.

>>723714674
>Remember when all of you were going to protest Call of Duty for piss poor multiplayer servers
does COD even get threads? see them once in a blue moon outside of release week

Honestly its been refreshing seeing tendies get their foil, Pokemon ZA is a huge flop, Switch 2 was dead on arrival and Nintendo positive sentiment is at an all time low, very nice to see.

>>723712797 (OP)
While bloated budgets used to be their best friend. Some companies will reduce their budgets to the miniscule amounts they actually need in order to continue breaking even with an increasingly shrinking audience. This will allow them to continue fucking around for a lot longer without finding out.

>>723714514
yeah this

>>723712797 (OP)
Of course it only need 200k sales. The budget is 13 million and the game was made using sticks

>>723714785
this desu

Still buying pokemon za

>>723714412
There's nothing wrong with shifting graphical priorities so the high-quality Pokemon models can run better on an underpowered console.

>>723714757
shut the fuck up you disingenuous faggot.

>>723714412
Are those images pasted as a flat 3D cube? What the actual fuck

>>723714045
Gen 9 open world and being able to do almost the entire game in any order you want resonated with more people.

>>723714894
Fancy talk for
>We couldn't figure out how to optimize the game so we made it shit instead.

>>723714785
The amount of tendie seethe from their house of cards falling apart has been kino.

I think it’s a good game.

>>723714951
this desu. It's been fun watching them crash and burn in real time

>>723714951
They cant't stop taking L's

To be honest, I'm surprised they need "all" that to start making a profit, when it's a $70 game. If someone told me they needed 30-50k, I'd believe it, given the extremely low budget of these guys' games.

>>723713183
>but I played Violet on Switch 2 recently and thought it was a perfect representation of the original IP's vision
Are you trolling?

>>723714951
There's a reason why Sony is the king of the industry, not nintendo lol.

>>723714573
>By growing up in the 80s and 90s where people didn't care about graphics and performance
But everything else about them sucks too

>>723713023
I’d play a game like this if that was all intentional.

>>723713023
Woh...hes fast

>>723714573
How is wanting a company to make good games and not buying their shit not forming your own opinion?

>>723714951
I hate modern nintendo and pokemon but this just seems delusional

I don't get it. Why does the game look like cheap shitty shovelware?

>>723713664
>2002 PS2 game
>1080p
Come the fuck on. That's a port.

>>723712926
Those people are disappointed. The people that eat the slop are the new wave of videogame consumers: brainless normies and clueless parents who buy shit for their kids.

>>723712926
I sincerely believe gamefreak is making ugly, disappointing games on purpose. If they make a good game, it'll set a new standard as to what a pokemon game should be. Instead, they just keep churning out fucking trash because they know nintencattle will keep on buying whatever dogshit they put out like the domesticated pets they are.

I wish Pokemon suffered a MH Wilds so they start to put effort again but that will never happen.

>>723714371
For the Switch 1 pricing of $60, that means that the budget for Pokemon Legends Z-A was about $12 million, though leaks said it was $13 million. That's chump change as far as the modern standard is concerned

>>723713023
the fact a game from 2005 has more detail than this shit just proves niptendo needs to go bankrupt

>>723712797 (OP)
>unironic communism
businesses are supposed to cut costs to remain profitable

>>723715420
It's not Nintendo fault, the leaks showed they offered Gamefreak to get help but they refused.

>>723714906
what's disingenuous about it. DQXI environments strictly look like UE4 assets. Granted it offers more detail on PC than the proprietary engine Pokemon uses but it's what you're asking for.

The games should look like this but much better at literally every point, there is no excuse.

Does anyone know who’s funding the latest “boycott” effort? The internet has been flooded with boycott shills. I’ve heard more about the windows in this game than any other aspect.

>>723714412
Reminder that unreal, released in 1998, had normal mapping support. The most basic of all graphical effects. But pokemon ZX does not support this.

This is a fucking game with the texture fidelity of doom 2.

>>723714246
strangely invested for a person who only watched from 'afar'

>>723715475
>>723715420
It is not Nintendos fault, Gamefreak is ran by nips that literally do not give a fuck because they know you WILL buy the new pokemon game.

>>723713693
What the fuck is going on here LMAO

>>723715185
Because your idea of a good game was forged by companies and not by yourself.

>>723712797 (OP)
>>723714371
The recent document leaks indicated that all recent Pokemon game budgets are in the 12-20 million dollar range. More or less the bottom end of typical AA games.

>>723715978
The idea that current Pokemon is good is 100% having your opinions forged by companies.

>>723715547
What makes you think there needs to be a "boycott shill" for a dogshit game?

>>723715978
You have to be a literal bottomfeeder, aspergers NEET freak subhuman to think the pokemon games are good these days. That or a retarded normie with no critical eye.

>>723716205
>>723716216
Have you played it?

>>723716216
These are Tendies we’re talking about here, they’ve been mentally dented for years now lol

>>723716216
They are objectively very good games and there is a reason why they sell so many copies.

>>723716216
>aspergers NEET freak
why are you people so MEAN?!?!

>>723716321
i got a pirated ZA from some random 4chan thread, emulated it to see if it would be as bad as people said and it was even worse than i anticipated

>>723712797 (OP)
You can tell these games are shit just from how every defense of them reads as or literally is low effort trolling.

>>723715962
cameraman holds what looks like a spoiled drink up to the suit's air intake
that's the only logical explanation for why the suited guy smells the other guy's ass

>New Pokemon doing incredibly well with critics and fans
>Sells insane amounts of copies
>Literally one of the best games of the year
>Nintendo raking in cash, happy fans and happy company
>This causes /v/ to go full melty
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

>>723712797 (OP)
>”Just vote with your wallet bro!”
>Even if 8,141,800,000 people say “no” by not buying the product, the 400,000 people who bought meam the game will be a massive success anyways
How exactly is this supposed to be fair? 0.005% of the population gets to determine who wins in a democracy?

i haven't played one pokemon game since heartgold. and before that, i didn't play one game before emerald. i think pokemon cultists are fully and completely retarded, and buy the same game 2 dozen times over.

>>723715540
So the game should be more unreal engine but with cell shading

>>723716509
Snoy jeets on suicide watch

>>723716509
shut the fuck up dude kek though got a chuck;e out of me

>>723716509
Here’s the doing well with fans btw.

>>723715978
>your idea of a good game was forged by companies
Says the guy who is running defense for a company's shitty product out of brand loyalty.

does Legends run okay on the switch 1? there is not one single chance i'll buy the switch 2, and i doubt that even the ps2 graphics of pokemon can run well on the switch 1.

>>723716573
literally yes it would be a marked improvement over playdoh N64

>>723712797 (OP)
This game is the worst piece of shit I have ever played in my entire life.

>>723716509
>>Literally one of the best games of the year
>>Nintendo raking in cash, happy fans and happy company
something about these two lines in particular are making me fucking die of laughter. Fuck I hate tendies, lmao - good job anon

>>723712797 (OP)
>STOP LIKING THINGS I DISLIKE!!!!!!!!

>>723716509
Kino larp

>>723716743
youre the scatfags of video games and deserve ridicule

>>723712926
Disappointed is a weak word for what I feel. There's literally nothing good left.

>>723716418
>>723716546
You can tell all these hate threads/posts are from butthurt uncs who are stuck in the past. Go back to playing your Game Boy, grandpa.

>>723713084
They're consoomers. Didn't like the worst rated modern pokemon game sell almost 30kk copies? And that's at full price with no discounts.

>>723716842
It's hard to discern whether you're trolling or just a fucking aspie retard lol

>>723712926
>They're the most profitable games of all time
Acshually the games themselves are very far from being the most profitable, but the franchise itself is. Like 90 percents of their profit comes from physical toys.

>>723715228
It still looks better at 480i.

>>723712797 (OP)
Bingtendo knows how to give people what they want while making a profit. Western devs should take a fucking note instead of chasing politics and graphics

>>723716842
if you enjoy them thats fine. but you need to realise that they've released the exaxct same videogame, 2 at a time, for the last 20 years.

>>723716743
>STOP HATING THINGS THAT ARE OBJECTIVELY BAD BUT I DEFEND DUE TO MY ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT!!

Why do these people take what Kit and Krysta say as gospel truth

>>723712926
I’ve been playing Pokemon since 1998 and this game far exceeded my expectations. 4chan really did me a favor by lowering my expectations, although I don’t think it was necessary. The 4chan brainrot was funny when we were teenagers but now the nasty attitude is getting old. Maybe it’s just zoomers that are like this?

>>723712926
>As kids I'm sure we all imagined an expansive, rich world to explore with our Pokemon
that’s literally what PLA and SV were.

>>723717057
>re-do the entire gameplay loop
>re-do the entire game world concept to such an extent that many people don’t like the changes
>somehow this is the exact same as RBY

>>723712926
Nu Poketards don't actually care about the game itself, they just buy it to be part of a cultural phenomenon.

>>723713183
Nothing about that game feels like early generations

>>723717209
>re-do
>by this i mean, copypaste

>>723717213
it hasn't been a phenomenon since the fucking 90's, though. the new guys clinging on are bascially just trying to chase nostalgia like classic hipsters.

>>723714045
>the best and most polished version of the formula is making the region a fucking line with roadblocks everywhere and having no gameplay except mindlessly mashing A through turn based shit designed for toddlers to beat
I’m afraid you’re just retarded

>>723717202
They're literal dogshit. They don't have the correct tone number one, nor do they look good. PLA is almost a good video game. Almost. And area zero is a good area (almost) in an otherwise shitty game.

>>723716509
It’s not even /v/, it’s some weird brown discord group that keeps making these seethe threads. Probably snoys or poorfag PC trannies. They’re all over this thread. Actual /v/ and /vp/ posters are playing ZA and having a good time, despite some of its shortcomings.

>>723716321
Do you really need to play a game where the public previews the developers and publishers put out demonstrate that it is going to be a bad game to tell that it's a bad game?
Do you need to play shovelware to know that it's shovelware?
Do you need to play all the newest games from a dev that hasn't put out a single good game in ages to know that their newest game is bad?
Do you cut yourself with a knife to know if it's sharp?
Do you put your hand in a fire to know if it's hot?
Are you a consoomer? How easy is it to make you have a blast?

>>723712797 (OP)
>game is just more of what people want without going all out of making it into 2000% graphicalslop
>/v/ is upset since it's not by sony and not in a snowy forest.

>>723717436
so i haven't played the game, and i don't care for graphics, but can you tell me what they added gameplay wise?

>>723717292
>RBY was all one city with real-time combat and a day/night system
Obviously I’ve been playing a bootleg cart for almost 30 years. How did you find your original copy?

How does the entire map being in a city even work? As far as I can see the map seems small as shit
Is the game 6 hours long?

Whether you snoy/xbot/pcniggers like it or not, this game will sell an autistic amount of copies no matter the quality due to the simple name "Pokemon".

>>723717436
You have absolute zero right to complain about deckbuilding roguelikes, "parryslop" and "rollslop"

>>723717741
A lot of people have compared it to the oldest Pokemon games from 20 years ago, so it should have multiple cities with a decent-size map. We wish they had gone in a new direction with this game though, as we’re all tired of getting gym badges and walking to the next town.

The reality is sadly that most people want to be entertained rather than artistically challenged/immersed.

We all grew up with Pokemon, thus we pretty much all like it. Some of us went on to develop taste and appreciation for games as an art-form, as well as gain literary depth in other fields. Most of us did not.

What we have here is simple. Anons with taste cannot let go of Pokemon due to nostalgia, and anons with no taste (the majority) dictate what Pokemon is.

You need to let go. It's sad I know, but Pokemon will never reach the artistic heights you want it to.

>>723717841
Games aren’t an art form. Get off your ass and stop playing walking simulators.

>>723717841
fuck man...trvke...

>>723717762
ZA is already breaking sales records.

>Willing to buy slop
>They sell slop
>Pikachu face

>>723717914
Nintendo games aren't, they're just meant to be toys for children.

>>723717253
How so?

>>723717762
And how is that not a problem for you, Tendie?

>>723717962
/v/ is already in damage control after za's smashing success.

>>723712797 (OP)
What do they even do with all this money? Obviously it isn't going back into the business.

>>723717406
What does it mean to not have the correct tone? What's missing

>>723717841
This anon speaks the truth sadly.

I think we should nuke nintendo, kill everyone there and send all of their assets to a better company named Sony.

>>723717720
holy shit, you mean pokemon managed to do something from the SNES days? OH FUCK! i better buy legends a-z!

based gamefreak scamming retards for centuries straight

>>723718049
Good. Someone has to make games that are actually fun.

>>723712797 (OP)
>watch a stream
>plays like a palmon ripoff
I dunno if I should laugh or cry

>>723717841
You don't understand how difficult it is to deceive children with games.Unlike some barrier people, I have no ties, no delusions, and no religion.If it's fun, I'll get hooked, and if it's boring, I'll quit right away.

>>723718130
Needs to be more in line with Pokemon movie 3, 5 or a studio ghibli film imo. Maybe a little more upbeat. The mystery the series had is completely gone. PLA is almost a good game, I just wished it looked better, denser environments and was a little more interesting.

>>723717209
What the fuck is RBY?

>>723718194
Wait, this game is a remake? Why didn’t any of you say that sooner?

>>723718282
>the average doomtranny
kek where did you all come from anyway?

>>723712797 (OP)
If your goal is to always make more profit, but its hard to make more revenue, then the only option is to go the other way and reduce costs instead

>>723712797 (OP)
Unironically how much Game Freaks spent to make this game? I am guessing not even 100k USD.

>>723713023
>>723713961
>What is broken emulation supposed to show?

>>723712926
You're not a kid anymore.

>>723717841
rare trvklear bomb from a frogposter

>>723718358
Yeah sorry I didn't play 20 identical games, I guess.

>>723712926
I can't speak for everyone, but my last Pokemon game was Sword. I've been a proud modern Pokemon hater ever since then.

>>723718267
>Maybe a little more upbeat
original game was filled with dark undertones, which SV replicates
>The mystery the series had is completely gone
what mystery exactly? SV is all about getting to the bottom of its core mystery

>>723712926
The legends games are moving in that direction you just want better graphics

Now we know why Nintendo is so desperate

>>723717841
GameFreak knows their customers are mentally ill. I don’t mean the snarky definition of “person who disagrees with me online”. If you are still getting positive feedback from a Pokemon game as an adult, your brain is not functioning properly. Once again, GF knows they have a captive audience of emotionally stunted adults.

>>723717436
>This is what people were asking for

While I say this though >>723717841, I will say if you want a taste of what an auteur pokemon game would be like, there are plenty of pretty good to great fan games out there when you really look (and I don't mean shit like uranium/fag-xenoverse/ and stuff like that). Plenty of great stuff coming out of the spanish community. Naturally they have the trappings of any fan game but still, better than GF.

>>723718639
palworld update when...

>>723718556
people don't want faggy teen drama anon they want adventure - and yeah, they want it to look good.

>>723712926
Nintendo is my friend and cares about me.
I don't care how "bad" a pokemon game might be, it's my therapy game.

>>723718707
Yes.

Glad that hard work of GameFreak is being paid off.

>>723712797 (OP)
must be real garbage pile made by five guys and tons of slopa

>>723719062
oh no, it's not UE5.

>>723712797 (OP)
As if they needed to provide more evidence they don't pay their employees.

>>723713213
>tumor
ew

>>723718892
The area zero part of the game is the most mysterious a Pokemon game has gotten in a long time

>>723713023
>100.000.000.000 franchise game looks worse than a dreamcast game made by Sega on it's deathbed
Um, ouch?

>>723719268
which is why it's the only good part of the video game except you have a neurotic loser femcel tagging along - arvens a good character in a shit game with shit dialogue. Nemona's okay.

>>723714246
>You don't have to ride anything.
isnt the top right of the region locked behind the ability to climb walls

>>723714095
youre regurgitating his point and stating the obvious twice now, retard

>>723713157
Lol no.
It's all nintendo adults now.

>>723718249
pokemon is targeted at manchhildren, not children

>>723713429
It is an isn't.
The card game is fat balding dudes.
The videogames are girls.

>>723713023
>there are mobile games with better graphics than this

>>723712926
I've been disappointed since X/Y. Pokemon games have always lost things going in between gens, but that was the first time it felt like we lost more than we gained. Sun/Moon felt like the last spark of creativity from Game Freak, they at least tried to deviate from the standard formula at least a little, but I refuse to touch anything by them afterwards.
Ah well, at least Nessa is the best goonbait they ever released, so I guess being able to fap to her is some small consolation prize.

>>723718249
SMT is targeted at child, not man-children

>>723718892
>people don't want faggy teen drama
That's what N's game was

>>723719667
what no, smt and persona are for fine adults.

>>723714036
>>723714147
You don't need the most profitable company in the world to make some shit like that. Here is an upscale of Yokai Watch 1, a 3DS game, running at 1080p with some lighting improvements. Seriously look at this shit. The city is stylised, it has people walking around, cars driving, all the shit you expect from a video game with competent art direction. It's not about the budget or the polygon count, the game just looks like ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLvSvuyN6BE&list=PLrNMT_-mJKK8vROwb47c_hYVKysAYy1bX

Palworld will win.

>>723719708
sure, but which game is the one where you attend literal high school like a cringe persona game?

>>723712926
The games have sucked for longer than they've been good, at this point.
Hell, they've always sucked from a technical standpoint excepting maybe Gen 2.
I think a lot of people are just coming in expecting to hate the new games

>>723719754
>persona
>fine adults
anon...

>>723716321
>how can you know dogshit on the side for the road is bad for you before eating it

>>723712926
SV was the most original mainline pokemon game since the series began.

An open world game where you find, battle and catch pokemon in the open has been my dream pokemon game since i first played Blue.

>BUT THE GRAPHICS!
Could be better yeah

>>723719460
OPs original point was that people will buy slop anyways, not that it only needs a small number of sales to succeed

>>723719767
....fuck...now imagine if the gameplay was good...

>>723719228
>vore
ew

>>723713023
Reminds me of that Sonic Adventure clip where Sonic falls through the stage onto a capsule and completes the level

>>723713213
Does it hurt to lean your elbows on your boobs?

>>723713359
Hoenn, more like Homenn

/v/ will continue to seethe and Pokemon will continue to rake in billions

>>723712797 (OP)
game had a budget of 13 million
It would profit anyway. The real problem is the game having such a small budget being part of a billion dollar franchise, that is the real shame
When I look at the game's texture, I don't think "game freak is lazy" anymore, I just think "holy shit, they actually made a functional game with that amount of money", the voice acting, the lack of all pokemons, the bugs, the ps2 era graphics, it all makes sense once you realize the budget for the game is laughable

>>723713023
Nope. City Square was MUCH fucking better, graphically, presentation, aesthetic. There is more SOVL in the hotel lobby alone than the entire Pokemon franchise post gen 7.

>>723719967
imagine if they just made one billion dollar game once just to see what would happen would be crazy

>>723720036
They'd eat shit on it because it'd sell about the same and then sales for the next game would be horrible

>>723718249
Dragon Quest target chadgamers

>>723720036
I'm convinced the reason Pokemon game budgets are so small is because they can't trust Game Freak with too much money.

>>723719228
>no tits
ew

HIGHEST
GROSSING
MEDIA FRANCHISE
IN THE FUCKING WORLD

HERE IS YOUR SHOVELWARE YOU FUCKING STUPID RETARDS THAT'LL BE 80BUX + TIP OF YOUR DICK LMAO FUCK YOU WE SPIT ON YOUR FACE AND LAUGH AT YOUR STUPIDITY

t. Nintendo and gamefreak

>>723712797 (OP)
This is actually my favorite pokemon game so far just because of tge fluidity of battling and catching wild pokemon.
It's deranged that it took them this long to add these updates to battles (and that they'll go back to their basic turn based garbage after this).

>>723712926
To be fair, you do not need to spend in inordinate amount of money for a game to be good. The leaks have shown that gamefreak could spend only a bit more or seek cooperation to get the games in a better state. They actively choose not to, all while not cultivating or scouting for better talent.

/v/ will continue to seethe and Pokemon will continue to rake in billions

>>723720036
What do people imagine as a billion dollar Pokemon game, the same but with better graphics? Look at western studios pushing out garbage nobody wants off venture capital funds, you can’t “just insert more money” and get better product

>>723714894
There's definitely something wrong about not having normal mapping. Even hardware from 30 years ago could handle it.

>>723719872
Not only is the game that but the game has a bunch of QoL and all the online features are easy and fast. Friends can drop in and out of coop via the union circle, trading is so quick and easy even with a code. By comparison Sword takes forever to do any of the online functions because it will auto connect to wireless regardless so you have to always disable wireless before connecting online

Reminder this game is breaking sales records while you all melty in the thread.

>>723720250
Tell us what percentage Gamefreak gets from that revenue

>>723720468
33%

>>723720253
>and that they'll go back to their basic turn based garbage after this
as it should be, the main line pokemon will always be turn based. The final fantasification of gaming to serve fags like you will stop

>>723712797 (OP)
Pokemon is and forever will be a money printer. poketards cant help themselves but to gobble this shit, they already plan on buying the next one. Game freak knows effort isn't required and have been taking full advantage
>>723714429
the fact it looks like that with all the updates and it couldn't get lower than a 70 proves the Nintendo bonus exists

>>723720313
>Look at western studios pushing out garbage nobody wants off venture capital funds
The issue there is that those venture capitalist are trying to push woke shit and to actively make games shitty to push a message (otherwise known as being western)
>you can’t “just insert more money” and get better product
Yea, because their current method of “take the cheapest and easiest route to spend as little money as possible” has worked out so well for them

>>723719754
smt is for edgelords

Pokemon last peaked at Black and White over a decade ago, they gave up after and now produce shovelware while coasting on the name Pokemon.

>>723720223
The protagonists are age ten!

>>723720468
Pokémon international company get 41% through trading card.

>>723720313
they could make za be placed in the whole region, and not only Lumiose city. Or, at the very least, I imagine the city would be 10x, if not, bigger. Have more details and more interesting areas. Voice acting. Better polish of the new mechanics and the balance of them. with a bigger game you can also insert more types of pokemon. Anyway, the game with a bigger budget is only limited to your imagination

>>723712797 (OP)
I honestly wish I could be a braindead consoomer like this. Life is shit and I wanna turn my brain off and be happy BUT THESE FAGGOT COMPANIES WON'T FUCKING LET ME PULLING THE SHIT THEY DO

>>723720763
What is the best Pokemon game after 2012?

Pokemon peaked in Gen 3 and it has been slop since Gen 5 at least

>>723713023
>subhumans wil defend it
Jesus fucking CHrist, FF 12 look better and it was launched almost 2 decades ago on a console with 32 MB RAM

>>723713664
Kh1 is so impressive it doesnt make sense. 32mb of ram and it has:
>large rooms with lots of detail and verticality
>good lighting
>handles many enemies at once that all have distinct attacks and animations
>great particle effects
>giant monster bosses some of which you can climb on
>two allies that have thier own movesets and ai
How did they do it? It had to have been made with absolute top tier C code, theres no other way.

Everyone who has the game is playing it and having fun. Only doomtrannies are left and they’re shitting themselves with FOMO.

>>723713023
that reminds me of GTASA and its mem issue kek

>200k*$80= 16M
I thought the game cost $13M to make?

>>723721305
It's not $80, retard.

>>723719139
>it's either UE5 hyper realism or full-bright flat zero effort indie slop
Have you thought games could also... look good?

>>723721305
First, game cost 60 to 70. Depending on version. Second, it's 15 million. At least from their last game

>>723721357
Yeah, it's 120.

Hm should I get a job to buy new switch?

>>723720253
>it's soulslop now!!! yay!!!!!
i think im gonna vomit

>>723721385
Was this from the continuation of the mega leak since i know on that you can get the exact figure.

>>723720508
Gamefreak doesn't get 33% of the entire franchise revenue

>>723721413
get a deck or build a good PC

>>723721403
I didn't know it was Time Stranger Deluxe Edition.

>>723712797 (OP)
Well, seems like Pokemon has completely normalized to make games in this way if they're bragging about how much they need to sell.

>>723721357
>>723721385
at $60 that's 12M are you telling me the game only sold 50k copies after it's first weekend?

>>723721425
It's not Silent Hill F.

>>723721413
unless you already have a switch library, the library on switch 2 isn't big enough yet to justify a purchase

>>723712797 (OP)
Why is that boy's hair so long? Boys are meant to have short hair

>>723721475
They are 33% of the TPC though along with Nintendo and Creatures inc.

>>723713213
she killed millions

>>723715253
>I never played the original games but I played a modern slop version and I'm sure this was the original vision
You are such a faggot

>>723721641
Surely this is bait.

>>723721641
Man there’s no fucking short hairs in the game for guys, you have to use pixie cut and cope that it’s “””boyish””” no wonder everyone is making femboys

Pokemon Legends 06 is a great game

I saw Legends Arceus and was excited. I played the fuck out of that game. I saw the nuggets of ideas starting to form. It was Portal 1, and I knew Portal 2 would come out eventually.
Z-A is not Portal 2. It is Mirror's Edge Catalyst. I am enjoying playing it in the moment, but I am not enjoying the fact that it exists considering what was lost.

>>723721641
No one tells me how to wear my hair!

>>723721682
See >>723721475

>>723712926
This extends to most of gayming these days
>Halo needs to spend a billion dollars just to make a basic 7/10 game that is pretty much just the second level of the first game extended to 10 hours
>It took like 4 battlefield games later for them to be able to make a basic BF4 clone with worse maps
>Assassin's Creed finally gets a Japan game but it's a botched mess
>The Sims is dead
>character action games are dead. Even GOW stopped being one and transitioned
The most shocking thing is how a new Bubsy game is one of the more interesting releases coming out while everything else burns

>>723721425
Retard.

>>723712797 (OP)
imagine if other companies did this, there would be way less flops, way less MTX and way less lay-offs
just focusing on gameplay instead of muh graphics/performance
the truth is, 90% of the population doesn't care about these things, as you can see in the pokemon sales

>>723712797 (OP)
>Pokémon fans are the ultimate slop eaters
Gatcha, MMO, mobile games, GAAS. After the high effort rebirth flop this is the future we deserve.

>>723719969
Based. That post has a very
>Sonic had a, let's say, rough transition to 3D
energy. Adventure 1 is fucking kino.

>>723712926
I started with Gen 4 and took a long hiatus from pokemon after that. I only got back to the series around 2023 due to nostalgia and replaying DPPT. I then bought Violet and like it a lot. Now I'm here

How the hell is
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8wzS9Pfa_0
Made by the same fucking studio?

At this point we all have to just agree it's either Nintendo or TPC that purposefully forces Gamefreak to shit out low quality slop with low amount of quality testing, right?

>>723713023
That run is so awful too

>>723720716
I mean it did sales wise! SV are the second most sold pokemon games

>>723716216
You realize that a game being good isn't decided by its graphics alone yes?
Gameplay, sound design, quests, etc matter just as much or even more.
You faggots should know by now most people do not give a singular shit about graphics by and large, people will happily let slightly subpar graphics slide if the rest of the game is good and enjoyable.
Not saying such is true for fagemon zits to ass, but the fact you tards have been shitting and pissing yourself over pokemon for 8 years over one singular aspect is sad. At least bring arguments about how the game as a whole is poorly made.

>>723713319
Why would you post this and not the webm?

>>723712797 (OP)
I highly doubt this. The developer costs for nearly two years along would exceed 200K copies.

>>723721641
There should be a bald option

>>723712797 (OP)
>some journo said that some guy told him
That's retarded. That view on profitability is also retarded. You are retarded. I'm retarded for engaging with this. Everything is retarded.

>>723723384
The budget of the game was leaked to be 13 million USD
$60 USD*200,000 units sold = 12 million USD
and that's not counting however many people are buying the $70 Switch 2 edition

>>723723347
The games are terrible in general, everyone knows this. It doesn't even need stating.
The visual are mentioned in the context of how lazy Gamefreak are. That, too, is understood by most people.
Pokemon is a major cash cow and they put zero budget or effort into it.

you will die before this franchise btw

>>723722253
This.
Whenever I see someone getting hyped by a game, I immediately assume he's retarded.
I only play old games anyways, maybe there's 1-2 decent games once in a while but I usually buy them later on.
Still seething about the next Metroid prime game, why did they have to make an open world slop, don't they have enough?

>>723724098
Some of you fuckers are going to be lowered into your caskets seething about how they cut the nat dex 50 years ago

>>723712926
I just don't get how you can make it past 16+ and not have grown out of pokemon. I distinctly remember as a kid who played since red and blue, playing Diamond and giving up halfway because I'd outgrown the formula. I haven't played since because they are all the same with no progress. I had my moment at age 14, what the fuck caused so many manchildren to not grow? And I will use the term, we had to make a containment board for a reason

The most important thing for a tendie is Nintendo making money.

>>723718224
Nintendo games aren't fun either though, they are toddler slop

>>723712797 (OP)
>”Former Nintendo Employees”
>It’s always fucking Kit and Krysta

>>723712926
Those people ARE disappointed. The problem is that its perpetuated by normalfaggots with zero standards now. They are either fags that played the games once in the 90s during pokemania and then abandoned it until pokemon GO, or they are young faggots thats first game was unironically fucking Sun/Moon or some shit.

>>723720941
The Lumiose map is smaller than every other game that takes place in one city. Smaller than Arkham Gotham. Smaller than FF VII Midgard. Smaller than Night City. And you can’t even blame it on the Switch memory since
A.) There are games with much, much bigger maps that run fine
B.) Even XY on the 3DS had more locations and Pokemon

>>723713367
kek

I realized pokefags are basically Swifties

>>723725071
Current pokemon is shit, but your response is brainlet tier. Some people really, REALLY like collectathons and monster tamer exploration games. Until relatively recently, there was NOTHING on the market like that. Most of the digimon games sucked shit and there werent that many SMT games to go around. Times are different now, but 15 years ago? Nah.

Total NintendGAWD supremacy

>>723712926
Normalfaggots are responsible for this shit. They are the ones buying merch constantly. Its never ending. Being a parent in this day and age means that half the people buying shit for kids is something pokemon related. No, seriously. I have like 10 fucking pokemon plushies despite never spending money on anything pokemon merch related because people keep buying my kid pokemon stuff for birthdays and whatever. My kid is 2. And its like, thats great and Im grateful that they care, but its eye opening on just who is buying all the merch. Boomers (oh hey this animal thing looks cute and its popular so Ill get it for Anon's kid) and normalfag millenials (oh hey it pokemon, I liked pokemon when I was 6, this will be perfect for Anon's kid, then he can get them the latest pokemon game).

>>723714045
Because Scarlet and Violet are fun anon.

>>723725821
So we need to have Ash singing about how tight Misty's pussy is to finally get them to wake up?

>>723725821
How fitting, since both pokemon and taylor swift are satanic, despite me having fond memories of playing Rumble World, and despite me listening to the only good taylor swift song from her new album, on repeat.

>>723726002
meds

>>723726062
Yea, I love input lag and things breaking in functionality because the game shipped with a fucking memory leak!

>>723726124
I dont give a fuck that it hurts your feefees, its true.

>>723726126
Not my problem because I pirated it a year after the game came out kek.

>>723718441
>video starts with a black frame
so he just transferred the video from his pc to the switch. You "people" are deranged

>>723726201
meds

>GF actually put this in the pokedex
Imagine red pilling an entire generation of kids without the need of grummz or cockroach lord sama.

>>723726246
>I pirated this thing so its good
>even though it was never fixed
Cool? Its still shit if you play it for longer than a few hours

>>723713183
Lol

>>723726278
>HE SAID BAD THING ABOUT MUH POKEMONS, GET ON MEDS REEEEE
Cry more

>>723713397
DIANCIE CRAPPED IN THE CITY. THAT NASTY ASS BITCH!

>>723713023
I seen someone post this on x and the comments were glazing the FUCK out of it, with the usuall "it's just small bug" why are you playing on switch 1 brokie it works fine on switch 2" etc..

>>723726124
>>723726278
Is this a bot?

>>723726327
>>I pirated this thing so its good
I'm not talking about the quality of the game, I'm just saying the game is fun, thats why people like it. Flying around Paldea and catching wild pokemon constantly is fun, despite the game's graphics and performance being garbage. I would say the same thing if I bought the game.

>>723714036
Final Fantasy X kinda

>>723726415
>>723726484
seething more

>>723726470
I've noticed most people on twitter don't actually believe the things they say, they're literally just farming engagement.

There are insane people on twitter but I wouldn't consider them people.

>>723726540
>I'm just saying the game is fun, thats why people like it.
And Im saying that that is a dumb fucking argument because you could already do that but better in the past games. Im saying that the game having severe functionality issues kills any fun that you could have unless you have abysmally low standards. You would rip this shit apart if the "pokemon" title wasnt attached to it. Its like a fucking chinese bootleg, except its somehow the official product.

>>723726708
>this post appears to be an automated bot

>>723726717
If they have a blue tick they are incentivized to do so for money.

>>723712797 (OP)
biggest media franchise in the world btw

>>723726813
>this post seems to be made by a seething nigger not on meds

Why is Tendo the only company that makes $10 million games if it's such a solid business model?

Every other modern game is
>indie slop made by two trannies with a $50k student loan
>mocapped open world made by six thousand jeets with a Hollywood studio's $300,000,000 budget (it sells five million copies and flops massively)

>>723712797 (OP)
pokefags are goy cattle
i'm glad jews are flooding japan and the west with nigs and jeets

>>723726997
because all other studios are obsessed with DEI and shoving AI and rape factory work ethics into their pipelines.

>>723712797 (OP)
100%, According to recent leaks, apparently GF spent like $20 million USD on it.
The mainline games apparently also have had around $30 million budgets.
Fuckers are probably getting like 10x their investment.

Seething Indian above me

>>723726945
meds

>>723726743
>you could already do that but better in the past games
Wrong, SV have minimal handholding and they give you freedom thats not comparable to the older gens. And people having fun with a game is not a dumb argument just because you consider there are better alternatives.
>Im saying that the game having severe functionality issues kills any fun
But once those issues are fixed, what remains is a fun game. I didnt experience the memory leaks because I spent 0 dollars kek.

>>723712926
>I just don't get how you can grow up in the 90s/2000s and not be disappointed in the direction of the franchise
they keep telling me that as long as they can throw a pokeball and capture a pokemon they will be happy

>>723726997
Nintendo is an older company so it has its nostalgia claws hooked into more people

>>723727191
>And people having fun with a game is not a dumb argument
I can have fun bouncing a ball against a wall.

I mean, in the modern times, this seems to make much more sense than blowing loads for what amounts to needing millions of sales like Sony

>>723727269
Cool

>>723727163
>no u

>>723713213
are there any other fanbases that go "well that sucked but at least the corporation made a lot of money"? it's such an absurd mindset.

>>723727421
meds

/v/
>triple a is shit
also /v/
>if it isn't triple a it's slop

>>723713664
KH1 had a higher budget than Pokemon does. That's without inflation, let that sink in. Pokemon fans are the most fucked over in all of gaming. No one has it worse than them, they are being taken advantage of.

>>723728135
This webm was always dumb af. It's a wall nigga where else can you go but up and to the side. I'd rather see a real comparison about the level design from the platforming parts.

>>723726286
Only an orphan would need to learn this from a video game or some retarded faggot on twitter.

>>723728135
The problem is the game was very cheap to make but still carries a premium price tag. If you want all the content at the highest fidelity, you’re parting with $100. Meanwhile E33 had a 30 million budget and still made profit at $50. Pokemon games could not cost a penny more than $20 for their budgets and the effort put into them.

>>723728135
Damn, this webm is at least ten years old.

So they made the game with such a shoestring budget that it breaks even with such low sales and you people are proud of the fact?

>>723714045
Everything in the past few years outsells every older game multiple times over, no matter the quality, save for obvious woke crap that caters to literally nobody. The current generation just buys everything they can out of pure FOMO, it's ridiculous, and this has been hurting the industry like nothing else. The best example I can name is Monster Hunter Wilds, it had one of the best first week sales in the whole history of gaming but then as people realized it's a shit game it just fucking stopped selling.

>>723714045
>"flopped hard" despite selling more than rse and xy
>"innovations" including....third abilities? uh...zubat but uglier?
unovaniggers are such whiny faggots lmao

>>723712797 (OP)
I almost of respect it. Low budget, low expectations. Why is it 70$...

>>723728694
Even after it got out how broken SV were they STILL sold 25 million copies. You can’t entirely blame this on children begging their parents for the game during a Target run.

There hasn't been a good pokemon game since HGSS. The actual base games are so abysmally bad it's insane. The last straw was not having BF in ORAS, haven't bought a game since then.

>>723728889
SV was a good game. I played it years after release fully patched on an emulator

>>Why does the game look like it could be n64 release?

>Well sorry it doesn't look like a UE5 tech demo!

Repeat ad nauseum. Worst part is like 60% of are just rage baiters.

>>723712797 (OP)
>buy
*emulate

I can confirm that it is slop, the kind of slop that is not worth $70 not even $40, hell I'm playing it for free, and I feel scammed, now bear witness of not only one or two or three but FOUR (4) shinies.

>>723729604
By this criteria every game can be "good" if its patched by people enough. Thats retarded. You have low standard. Dont speak again.

>>723729803
That thing looks like something from Spore

>>723712797 (OP)
Isn't the gameplay good, though? That's what I heard at least. No game's worth $70, even moreso with the shitty enviromental graphics. It's only really slop for the price it's being sold at afaik

How can a company have so little respect for it's bread and butter IP? This game looks like absolute dog shit. Pokemon deserves better

>>723729806
It's retarded to judge something by the state it was in when you played it? Ok.

>>723729803
Shinies in ZA seem completely busted, they probably jacked up the rate even further since the game was made with zoomers in mind.

>>723730212
So you're going to judge No Man's Sky by Sony's forced rushed release and not the current finish product. Do you just all early access games by their pre 1.0 versions too retard?

>>723729806
>you have low standards for waiting to play the final product
You are a special kind of retard beta tester

>>723730225
Yeah, it is ridiculous, I usually just find 1 at best in a normal run on older games, but 4 is completely retarded, it takes away the special feeling of shinies.

>>723712797 (OP)
So they basically spent pennies making the game, knowing that the fanbase will buy no matter what?

>>723729803
It's not worth $70. I'd sat it's worth $40

>>723730334
If I were to replay No Man's Sky today I'd judge it by how it is now, as would be common sense to do.... and this applies just the same to Pokemon SV....

>>723730563
$20 at BEST.

>723716509
>a game can only be good if it makes money
>Valve is bad because they make money off of loot boxes and hat simulators

>>723730642
Sorry I'm ESL, my post was meant for >>723729806

>>723712797 (OP)
Pokemon IP will die once Millennials and zoomers die off. Gen Alpha won't be this stupid to buy their dogshit games.

>>723712926
People blame normalfags, like those retards
>>723725694
>>723726002

But I'm pretty sure it's not them who buy the same game 2-4 times each time a new one is released.
Just like it isn't normalfags who buy up all those Pokemon cards

>>723722253
>slop became slop
what a surprise

>>723712797 (OP)
>>723713664
slop franchise

>>723730941
>budget 13 mil
Literal money laundering

>>723714573
>the 80s and 90s where people didn't care about graphics and performance
You didn't grow up in the 80s or 90s.

>>723730850
The #1 market for these games are literal children in elementary school in Japan

>>723716842
But the best games are on the gamecube

>>723715475
And who funds and publishes Gamefreak games you idiot? Ofc it's Nintendo

>>723731078
i'm not surprised. They can't even reach graphical fidelity of 2007 games and there are literally zero voice acting. I dunno where money would go except into dirty money making machine.

>>723730402
>no actually a game should be a woping piece of fucking dogshit on launch and you should be ok with that!
Fuck off you retarded teen

>>723730563
no, for $50 you can get new Digimon and $30 gives you Palworld, Zoomers-Asshole is not worth more than $15

>>723730880
>But I'm pretty sure it's not them who buy the same game 2-4 times each time a new one is released.
>Just like it isn't normalfags who buy up all those Pokemon cards
Irrelevant, merch makes up the majority of total sales

>>723712797 (OP)
How is that even possible?
Did the devs work work for free or something?

>>723731581
reinvestment into other projects, do you prefer halo's reinvestment into its game and TV? Or perhaps you prefer all the 2007 IPs that haven't put out anything

>>723714429
>>723714495
This turned out to be an emulator glitch at launch. The game looks awful, but not that awful.

>>723731835
Their salary is paid in soba noodles and sake.

This game was a test to see just how little they could do and see how well it sell. This game will definitely outsell Arceus. GF might see if they can so it on a 5 million budget next time.

>>723731749
digimon has like 110 dollars of dlc. I refuse to play any game that milks people like that

>>723713664
LMAO, here's what it actually looked like on a PS2.

>>723731727
project less illiterate, maybe you should stop buying at launch because there's an industry of examples of games being released unfinished

>>723713023
Don't cry.
He's in a better world now.
Digimon world.

>>723731113
This.
Graphics fags where way more prominent back then because there was actually a noticeable difference in how games looked when money was put in.
With literally everything just being in the unreal engine and looking the same these days graphics fags don't exist. The only thing they can whine about is FPS or resolution not the actual quality of textures.

>>723712926
Millenials literally can't help themselves. They're always chasing the past and consooming because they can't cope with the life of failure they lead.

>>723731749
Digimon expects you to buy it's DLC. Palworld is more unfinished than Pokemon

>>723713252
Excuse you.

im certain nintendo implemented some kind of brain altering cancer rays into their older consoles to manipulate people into keep buying their shitty products. everyone who didnt jump off after the n64 got infected and is now a shit eating zombie

>>723732036
Collectors edition charging $60 because it has a budget made statue =/= DLC you brainlet.

>>723731478
So you want to blame the distributor when developers make a bad game?

>>723713213
She's not this tasty.

>>723728568
Yeah, it's this. A $70 game SHOULD be high quality, ZA is a $40 3DS tier game at most. Charging $70 for it is insane, even the $60 on Switch 1 or $50 with the Switch 2 bundle is too much for how much it cost to make.

Indie quality games should get indie prices, it's truly that simple. AA games should get AA prices too, E33 is a good example of that.

>>723731478
>>723732274
Nintendo is never at fault when something bad happens, but they deserve 100% of the credit when something good happens, and only a snoy would disagree.

>>723732036
Free on pc. And those dlcs atm are nothing but skins, BGM and few cheat items that you don't need. I only use Digimon Costume Set skin for female mc as it looks cute anything else is worthless to me.

>>723732310
>E33 is a good example of
being a tranny game

>>723732170
im 36 and sun/moon was the last acceptable gen for both game and anime

>>723732340
>And those dlcs atm are nothing but skins
you faggots don't even understand why this is a terrible thing to justify. you've just been conditioned your whole life to it. video games used to be complete when purchased anon.

>>723732274
What a big corpo cocksucker. Dude they literally fund their game projects. They can always say no fuck off and demand more money, more staff and more time. But they never do they always agree like yes man just like you are always buying their undercooked barely eatable chicken sandwich and then get mad when you get to spend entire afternoon on a shitter.

>>723721357
He's probably one of the retards who goes "Haha, I was actually using Australian dollars! Jokes on you! My currency is also named the dollar, but is worth much less!" that shits up every single thread talking about prices.

>>723713023
>>723726251
>He went out of his way to buy this game and take hundreds of screenshots and videos on his PC to transfer to his console to fabricate evidence, actually. This game is perfect.
Now call THIS an emulator glitch, chimp.

>>723732310
>E33 is a good example of that.
It was an asset flip with many AI generated textures. It's also too expensive but not as expensive as dogshit Z-A that is not worth even $20

>>723732352
Game quality is irrelevant, a cheaper to produce game should lost less. $50 for E33 was a good price point. Nintendo charging $60 for something like the Link's Awakening remake was a joke.

>>723732509
It would be called Early Access game on PC, but for Tendies it's a fully finished feature complete game worth buying for $100

>>723732435
>I don't know the difference between Gamefreak, The Pokemon Company, and Nintendo. I'm just going to seethe at Nintendo like I do every time a new Switch game comes out.

>>723732571
that game should've been 33 dollars since they were so obsessed with their faggy little masonic number during all the marketing. I wouldn't play it for free though. I like good jrpgs

>>723732274
You need to understand that publishers DO in fact give money to the devs and help them with their games. Microsoft and Sony both do this, even for third parties like when Microsoft had to try to unfuck BG3 on the Series S. Nintendo has done it in the past(Iwata famously saved Pokemon before).

>>723712797 (OP)
How do you vote with your wallet against production costs like these? The game could have launched on WiiU and it would still be way worth the effort. It needs the absolute bare fucking minimum to succeed.

>>723732610
And who the fuck funds Pokemon Company? Huh? You smartass. Oh it's the money tree that gives them unlimited money for sure. It's everyone but the Nintendo.

>>723723790
that implies the devs get 100% of the sale price, when the reality is probably closer to 40% after you deal with production costs and distributor cuts.

>>723732601
>PC Snoy
Not an argument. Another thing has been invented and you must buy another $99999 Nvidia GPU to run it.

>>723712926
Nigga please there is no way you still care about these games. I'm just here for the coom like every generation

I will buy this game just to interact with Jacinthe

>>723726997
this. i've been saying for years that "AAA" is a meme and devs need to go back to making "A" games.

>>723732792
Keep eating turds tendy and be proud of it. As only you can get this low.
I can run your pokeslop on $120 gpu from 2019 lmao. And also brand new Digimon game at max settings + 100fps while you can only get despair after being stuck with dead brick called Switch 2 that has no games.

How do we kill Pokemon, lads? It would be a mercy at this point..

>>723733068
Black and White 3

>>723732175
Yet Nintendo saw an unfinished game as a threat.
>B-b-buh
Back in your cage.

>>723733068
Remove femboys and pikachu from the game and most pokefags would rope.

>>723733126
>Back in your cage.
Very hot! Yes please, master!

>>723732780
Why would The Pokemon Company, the owners of the richest IP in the world need an outside company to "fund" them?

>>723733068
Palworld 2 (not palfarm)

>>723714894
Oh so switchtards are finally admitting that Switch 2 is worse than Steam Deck?

>>723712797 (OP)
Former Nintendo employees don't need to claim this because the budget for the game already leaked and anyone capable doing basic multiplication could figure this out.

>>723733374
anon, the "former nintendo employees" found out the budget from the leak just like you did, OP's image is from some shitty article talking about just that.

>>723733468
I hate sensationalism so goddamn much.

>>723715475
If thats the true, then why the fuck Nintendo goes easy on them, every time? After all they are their publishers, right? I thought they had """standards""" when it comes to their exclusives. Shit Pokemon games are actively hurting the Nintendo brand

>>723713023
And what's the point of suing palworld for? This isn't even on the same level.

>>723733272
This is exactly how they have become rich. By relying on Nintendo free money.

>>723716216
Even the most assburgered NEET has realized how dogshit Pokemon has become. Pokemon only appeals to nostalgia faggots(aka normies), and to women who lack taste and critical thinking by default

>>723733126
>anon discovers that threat responses are preemptive

>>723733068
Just stop buying it
>But other people are buying it!
Who cares?

>>723733639
>nintendo goes easy on them
Game Freak is a co-owner of pokemon you retard. Nintendo can't tell Game Freak what to do, only offer help. the only "option" nintendo has to control game freak is the nuclear option, which is the "fuck it, if you don't want to make a good pokemon game then nobody can" and there's absolutely no justification for nintendo to go that far just because game freak is being lazy.
Nintendo has no power to "punish" game freak or anything like that, they aren't their boss

>>723733710
no, you retard, they get ALL THE FUCKING POKEMON MONEY. Nintendo doesn't pay their paychecks, they get all the money from pokemon then they send nintendo THEIR cut.

>>723733838
As I said, they have have all the right to punish them, since shit Pokemon games hurt the Nintendo brand. But as long as the money flows, Nintendo wont say a thing

>>723733837
i haven't bought a pokemon game since blakc and white

>>723733126
Craftopia has been in early access grift for 5 years. Palworld has already been in for almost 2 years

>>723733838
I mean at this point it may be necessary, and it wouldn’t be hard
>make the games better
>no nintendo
>fine, until you get some standards we won’t publish the games
They’re just as culpable for these games as gamefreak since they let it happen

>>723734018
they don't though. they can't dock game freaks wages, they don't pay them. they can't fire game freak, they aren't their boss. As long as creature's inc is happy with the money coming in game freak has free reign to do what they want with pokemon.

>>723733068
Finish off the series with a banger!
Make a region based off india.
Dexcut all the cute and/or pretty Pokémon like Ninetales, Absol, braixen and so on and only keep the ugly ones and the forgettable ones. Make a local dex from all the most forgettable Pokémon only.
Make all Pokémon 100% female now.
EXP sharer is always on by default and now also affects Pokémon stored in the PC. Give so much exp that even if you take the shortest route between gyms, you will still be 10 levels above anything you encounter so the game is utterly trivial. The game will never be challenging anymore, even if you try your hardest to actively avoid leveling. Gym leaders start with 1 Pokémon and only go up to 3. Not a single enemy in the game has more than 3 Pokémon.
Remove all tactical depth that is left. Delete Stealth Rock, toxic spikes and all status moves. Only attack moves exist anymore. Delete all status effects and buffs and debuffs. Delete held items. Don't delete or restrict healing items. You can use as many potions as you want during a fight.
The region champion has only one Pokémon which is a bidoof 20 levels under what you will be at that point.
The Evil Team will be a squad of fat drunken hooligans and troublemaking teens with no grander plans or ambitions.
Add cutscenes that combined take more time of the game than the actual gameplay. Make it a movie game.
Make the game super woke. Delete white males and everyone is a pajeet, nigger or jew.
Pay a pajeet 5 bucks to draw all the games graphics in MS paint.
Add a sex minigame for the female Pokémon and put all the effort into that and not the gameplay.

>>723734054
Palworld 1.0 releases next year, palworld right now has well above 100 hours of content, not counting online interactions.

>>723733838
The Pokemon Company is split across 3 others. Gamefreak can be punished if Nintendo lobbies with Creatures inc

>>723734190
>Game Freak: hey nintendo, i'm gonna release a product on your system that's gonna make you ~$600 million
>Nintendo: well hold on there buddy, is the game good? did you get /v/'s approval of the textures and graphics?
>Game Freak: well no, we half assed it just like usual
>Nintendo: hmmm... not sure if i can let you release that, i'll have to check with the board of directors on whether they want $600 million or $0

>>723734383
that requires Creatures Inc to side with Nintendo, which they aren't going to do if your only issue is "4chan isn't the biggest fan of your latest games".

>>723733068
Hope the Mihoyo Pokemon clone takes off because an $100+ million creature catcher game with constant content updates that's free will probably make it so no one wants to spend $70 on Pokemon again.

>>723712926
Pokemon was peak when it was 2D

Zelda and Metroid are the only Nintendo franchises I play. Everything else is baby shit or anime weeb shit.

You'll buy it anyway
So stop crying

>>723712926
Problem is your ideal version of pokemon is so fucking bad you reverted back to discussing graphics. Pokemon as it is right now is better than anything you think it should be. Like seriously 90% of you saw pocket pairs open world punch trees slop and said yeeeeeup thats the stuff.

>>723733639
Pokemon still earns an insane amount of money despite being garbage, so no incentive for Nintendo to make Game Freak do any better

>>723713023
I had a good laugh, the music is a good fit too anon

pokemon being bad or low quality is a far-right talking point btw

>>game that still gets patches and polishes and is still updated and isn't a full price industry game

as much as i don't want to defend that game i seen games like rust being in EA for 4years yet people think this is some uncommon thing, look it up it's a common practice which allows games to polish up and hammer out the bugs, it's only a problem when games like yandere dev using it as an excuse to not work on their game or a nft & bitcoin "game company" try to rugpull their investors with a never finished game

>>723714573
What were the bit-wars dumb retard? Your mom should’ve aborted you after they spotted that gross, concave skull when they did the ultrasound.

>>723734832
patches are not going to magically make the game unshit, you are coping hard

>>723732739
I don't think you can in this capatilist society

>>723714573
>By growing up in the 80s and 90s where people didn't care about graphics
LMAO what a fucking moron. Why the fuck do you think Final Fantasy got so popular?

>>723712926
>Anon learns that capitalism is all about parasitemaxxing

>>723733703
they want to remove al comeptition because they fear people might go play similar themed games from other comapnies that actually have to make at least decent games. Funnily enough pokefags will keep buying pokemon anyways so it doesnt really matter for them, it just fucks with everyone else

>>723735184
>>723735313
cringe

>Retards still blame the console
>Xenoblade have to render a cloud sea and fuckload of shit on screen
>Zelda ran on goddamn Wiiu, also XbX
>Cyberpunk is on switch 2 and that shit is ten times more demanding than whatever nip game.

Why people still do this retard ass mental gymnastic? There is ton of other games that have little issues with actual hardware.

>>723735361
Why are you mad about the word capitalism? Gamefreak WON anon, and so did the pokémon company

>>723733914
And in the best interest of Nintendo is to fund those games mr smartass so they will get even more money from their 30% cut.

>>723735467
go shock your dog hasan

>>723725821
tay's new album is actually good althoughbeit

>>723735489
Shut up communigger

>>723735372
Because morons want to blame Nintendo for Gamefreaks lazy ways cause some folks are still riding high with their NDS.

>>723735574
So true sister. Nintendo is the victim in all of this.

>>723735078
not even the point of what i even said, i said it makes the game smoother and have less bugs and have actual polishing so when they are actually are updating the game they don't have to deal with pile on piles of bug reports when they get to the point of updating their game

>>723735372
People have already forgotten that Witcher 3, Skyrim and Dragon's Dogma, Kingdom Come Deliverance and No Man's Sky, Asassin's creed 3/4 all ran on Switch 1

>>723735934
That's the point anon, retards keep making excuses for gamefreak for no reason.

>>723712926
I always fall for the "Pokemon was always shit" meme until I look back and actually play the older games again and watch the old seasons of the show. It's a shame how much potential this series had.

>>723735481
sure, and then game freak says "no thanks, we're good" and guess what, nintendo ends up exactly where they are today in reality.

>>723735934
not sound like a naysayer but didn't the ports all look like dogshit too and had their textures downgraded

>>723725821
>>723735498
Both fandoms like men wearing female clothes so it fits more than them being a "disney cult"

>>723736256
Skyrim and dragon dogma ran on PS360 anon, but rest don't have any major downgrades aside witcher.

>>723736256
doesn't matter when entire world was fully ported with models intact. While Z-A is completely shit before even any downgrade, there are no scope to the world you just have one small city and few interiors + basements and that's all.

>>723736508
i'm gonna say this once
the only thing that could make tay hotter is if she had a cock

>>723736648
he does but is tucking it in every time

>>723736894
for your sake i hope you're right