Thread 723722581

Y'know what's sad? The fact that you actually DO like it you subhuman freak and not the fact that you're coping. You disgust me.

OKAY OKAY I ADMIT IT I LIKE BLUE-TINTED WINDOWS, IT GETS ME UP IN THE MORNING, AND???

>>723722581 (OP)
It is not Gamefreak's fault, sorry but France is like this.

>>723722581 (OP)
I don't like this seam

I don't own a switch or switch 2.

I want to see how far they can go before tendies stop buying
I want to see flat, textureless polygons on a flat plane
oh wait

Leaked gen 10 pokemon.

>>723722581 (OP)
Get a life assholes and leave me alone.

> bitches about kid games non stop for môths and months and months
> O WOW YOU ARE SO LE SAD
Reflect on your life before talking, retard.

can this be the game where we just give up on pokefags? let them have their shit game and their shit board, i don't care any more

>>723722581 (OP)
I just don't understand why it's so flat. In the prototype leaks they had the balconies modeled. Are they so inept at optimizing they thought they had to remove the geometry? How does the game run so poorly when the buildings are flat and there are only like 5 npcs on screen doing nothing?

>>723726976
This is encrypted CSAM isn't it

>>723729664
It's 7kbs.

>>723722581 (OP)
Why don't they model it in 3d? They already have a good texture.

I like how not only is it a flat texture but the texture itself is just the same window copy and pasted 30 times by some intern

>>723731619
Even that pile of shit Elex 2 had better water.

>>723731619
literally how would you do that if you don't have simulated water flow? they did the best they could with tech from 1997

>>723731935
nice water

>>723731619
>wtf why doesn't Pokémon do this???

>>723732642
That's what I'm wondering, yes.

>>723731619
This one is bad, no defense needed.

>>723731619
I gotta say I do respect the balls they got to be the brazen about the lack of shit giving. I mean they know it sells so who give a crap. They already told fans to go fuck themselves back with ORAS

>>723732642
dude ps2 games had fancier water than that, c'mon now

Are these threads botted? Why do the exact same posts and images keep getting reposted?

>Pokemon fans deserve better!
>Pokemon fans are up in arms!
>Pokemon fans had enough!
>PLEASE DO NOT BUY THIS GAME!
Meanwhile pokemon fans are having fun with their video game but it looks like everyone else but pokemon fans are upset at them having fun.

>thought people were shit posting when they said the entire game was confined to one city
>it's fucking true
I thought part of the appeal of Pokemon was that you're on a grand adventure across the land. Bumbling around one city is not a god damn adventure

I'm so glad I'm not a pokemon fan. I think I would rather be a 4'3" disabled indian than a pokemon fan.

>>723732642
How are better water effects unreasonable? A fucking spin off game for the PS2 made by a literal who studio back in 2001 had better god damn water. Gamefreak is a major studio with a multi-billion dollar franchise under their belt. What excuse do they have apart from sheer laziness?

>>723737341
You already are

>>723731619
So do people play games to admire the water and buildings the whole time now?

>>723722581 (OP)
>mfw it's not a composite image
>mfw that is the actual in-game transition
>mfw only the bottom belt course is modeled
>mfw everything above it is a gross 2D texture with unconvincing shading tricks

>>723738039
I can't believe it has such awful pop-in with such low-quality graphics on modern hardware
what the fuck is going on?

>>723732642
Man
Imagine a pokemon battle in shallow water with waves, splashing, and water effects
That would be so fucking sick

>>723738039
The responses to this on x were embarrassing.

>>723731619
Nice water

I'm convinced that at this point every company is competing to see how dogshit half-assed products they can get away with. The scary part is there are "people" buying this shit.

>>723741234
Time pressure
Untalented code monkeys (tip: ugghh, I haven't dilated and I must code. Look at my yoonik list of mental retardations. I'm so special, uhh, code game.)
Subhuman colors of the derma
Starbucks sipping harlots
etc

>>723731619
So is Gayfreak finally in the PS2 era of video game tech or not yet?

>>723731619
>>723731935
>>723732642
>>723732981
>>723737865
Nice water

>>723741828
The scary thing is that I doubt they outsourced much of it at all. This is the work of the Japanese native talent pool in 2025, from top to bottom.

>>723742189
Nice water

>>723738039
>>723731619
>>723722987
>>723722581 (OP)
all of this is literally fine, caring about top-tier graphics is such a retarded boomer obsession, I'm not playing this for state-of-the-art tech, go jerk your latest ubisoft monstrosity
frankly, lower quality graphics are a sign that they spent MORE time on gameplay and less time on bullshit little details for boomers to jerk over

>>723742189
It's Japan made? Really?
If that's true that might mean whatever is causing this is rippling through other Japanese made things. It started with their cars and now with thigns that they have no excuse for. With cars they always like to whine about muh research for le emissions costing too much so now quality also bad :(
These jew worshippesr should just kill themselves. Just give me a slow as fuck small little hatchback that will fucking outlive me you stupid nip niggers.

>>723724964
I dont think that enough people saw this slop to get the joke, but I appreciate your effort

>>723742189
>>723742547
grim
https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Legends:_Z-A/credits

>>723732642
Why won't it? Mind you CS2 was built to run on toasters of SEA rats.

>>723741527
>HURRR MUST BE AN EMULATOR
Pokémon fans are so predictable. Same thing happened with SV, HURRR MUST BE YOUR SD CARD.

>>723742779
So, Japan is back to being China 2.0 than?

>>723741234
consoles

>>723743043
I also saw a lot of people outright shamelessly saying, Why aren't you playing on switch 2?

>>723738848
A lot of people play games to be immersed, and visuals do a lot of the heavy lifting there. Invisible walls, poorly merged textures, terrible animations, all pretty noticeable flaws that can break immersion. When there are other games without those flaws (including older games in the same series) it kinda sucks when you're playing an obvious downgrade.
If you're like me and only care about the gameplay itself, egregious issues like >>723738039 are still irredeemable. If they're cutting corners on stuff like that it calls into questions how much they bothered to fix other problems.
But hey, if you're in the crowd of people who just need a pokemon on the screen to be happy and refuse to play anything but NEW THING, don't let me and my standards stop you.

>>723722581 (OP)
>op pretends to read my mind in order to justify his views
yes yes, we know you like to deepthroat turds, there's no need to remind us every couple hours

>>723738039
>no missingno under the floor
shiggy

>>723729306
GF keeps using the base Switch as an excuse to make everything flat and lifeless. You saw how SV cities had single digit framerates for objects further than 5 feet away. Lets see them try this excuse for SW2 exclusives.

Gonna be blunt OP this is in "who gives a fucking shit" territory for me

>>723741828
GF Japan isn't infested with trannies like Western studios. The problem is the staff are too old and set in their ways. They never got comfortable coding 3D environments. And Japanese work culture encourages you to work until you die. This is a case where the old guard absolutely should be stepping aside to let a younger generation take control of the series.

>>723746967
>GF Japan isn't infested with trannies like Western studios
this has been becoming more and more false. lots of japan's software industry is hiring foreign japan-obsessed workers, including trans people. I know a few personally. Nintendo R&D in particular has a lot of foreign workers. Japan is not making new software engineers fast enough.

>>723747513
>this has been becoming more and more false. lots of japan's software industry is hiring foreign japan-obsessed workers
here is an example of someone that worked at GameFreak and Nintendo R&D in particular, and has chimed in on some of the dialog about ZA's rendering critiques:
https://x.com/jnvcia
He even mentions some other insight on the working temperament over there if you scroll through his replies and messages. It's rough out there.
I realize now I very rarely see Japanese people in the usual game development scenes. Not at GDC or Siggraph or any other conference where the state of the art patterns of Rendering is discussed, but I hear a lot of VISA work happening out in Japan.

>>723746729
most pokefags says this and never give an actually good reason why this game is good besides them saying the game is funs when in reality it's just button mashing and dark souls rolling it's just a downgraded mmo like

or the multiplayer is fun as if that makes it any better when that just says it relies on multiplayer to be "good"

>>723742523
>lower quality graphics are a sign that they spent MORE time on gameplay
Pokefags will play literally ANYTHING with the brand on it, I am completely convinced now

>>723749328
>Pokefags will play literally ANYTHING
The diehard coping manchildren, sure, but I've never seen a worse general reception of Pokeslop. I think GF is fully aware of their captive audience, and that's why they spent so little on development that a quarter million sales will cover costs.

>>723722581 (OP)
Still buying Pokemon

>>723743006
No, thats was first one.

>>723746651
This shit looks like ps2 game

>>723742523
>pokeman games either look good or play good (ignoring the fact they rarely do either)
this is one of the biggest fucking media franchises on the planet, how the fuck are you not demanding more? I genuinely don't get how pokefags have zero desire for the games to have even a single bit more polish, why be sated with the bare minimum?

>>723722581 (OP)
Too far, must defend multi billion dollar japanese company.

>>723731619
HAHHAHAHAHAH

>>723722581 (OP)
I caught a shiny Falinks today!

>>723731619
Game Freak genuinely deserves bad things to happen to them

>>723742523
>frankly, lower quality graphics are a sign that they spent MORE time on gameplay
You must love Korean MMOs.

>>723752845
You'll complain regardless.

>>723742523
>I should spend more for newer hardware so I can play games with graphics from 2001
Make it make sense

>>723753608
soul

>>723754560
It's a Switch multiplat

>>723753608
Nu-Pokemon wishes it could look as good as HL2

>>723722581 (OP)
Worse texturing than most boomer shooters from 30 years ago

>>723754626
There are literal Game Cube games that look better than that. It's inexcusable. It's not like GF will suddenly use the full power of the Switch 2 when the next Pokemon comes out.

>>723754554
>some retard on /v/ might call the actually well crafted graphics "nu-soul" so theres no point in putting any actual effort into the games
do you require a neck brace to keep your head at a elevated angle so you don't choke on your own drool?

>>723754765
You still didn't need to buy new hardware to play it.

>>723753608
>2025
>Nintendo still can't do 2004 graphics

>>723732642
Source 1 had better water than Legends, used flowmaps, and it ran on the Xbox 360

>>723754926
>2025
>Nintendo still can't do 1996 graphics

>>723754789
I'm just aware that you're a troll who will complain regardless because that's what gets you more (You)s. You don't even play pokemon either.
>but I WOULD if
No you wouldn't.

>>723752575
ps2 games had way better shading

>>723742523
Meanwhile, in 2002

>>723722581 (OP)
You know what the funniest part is?
The initial draft concept for the game actually looked acceptable.

Anyone denying how repulsive this looks is either a shill or a soulless subhuman. The actual tendies at least attempt to deflect.

>>723755416
>fully modeled exteriors with acceptable texture and lighting
what the fuck happened?
could their engine somehow not run this?

>>723722987
This is what does it for me. This is so fucking amateurish.

>>723755620
Nintendo told them to tone it down.

>>723722581 (OP)
Explain to me how AI making video games is bad when AI wouldn't have made mistakes like this

>>723755620
>SAAR WE CANT NOT SAAR WE IT'S SAAR IS'TS SAAR IMPOSSIBLE WE MUST SAAR SAAR SAAR ALL ONE MODEL SAAR

>>723738039
Ha, this proves that Lumiose ISN'T just one singular model! Checkmate, haters!

>>723755818
The Teraleak actually shows the opposite. Nintendo offered them help and Game Freak told them to fuck off.

>>723755620
No-one can tell me that Nintendo isnt actively experimenting with making Pokémon games as cheaply as possible to see if it at all affects their bottom line. Think about it
>make shoestring Pokémon games
>they sell billions
>do this a couple of times
>fans start getting angry after like 3-4-5 games
>once the sales start to actually peeter out you go "Look guys, we hear you check THIS FUCKIN SHIT OUT"
>showcase a game with 10x the budget of the previous 4 games(see: still looks like shit)
>cultists: OH FUCK YEAH POKEMON IS SO BACK
>also sells gangbusters

>>723755941
Nintendo leaked that fake info on purpose to paint GF as bad.

>>723752845
>why be sated with the bare minimum?
Its not even close to the bare minimum.

>>723752575
There's really no reason to insult the PS2 like that.

>>723756015
Nintendo doesn't make pokemon. They have no control over the IP.

>>723756801
Sure, Jan

>>723756801
Nintendo owns 1/3 of the IP and has an undisclosed stake in Creatures Inc, which owns another third of it. They have more control over Pokemon than the people who want to paint Game Freak as the only problem want to admit.

>buys a kids toy
>its a kids toy

whats the issue?

>>723752845
There’s a ton of polish in the individual Pokemon animations and character models but I guess what really matters is the one the way the un interactable walls look

>>723757119
we have pokemon's internal documents and they all paint a picture that game freak has sole development ownership over the games

>>723757159
>for kids means low quality
You are a spiritual jew

>>723757159
the issue is that grown adults are buying the kids toy instead of actual kids. so they notice these things and complain where as actual kids don't care about pokemon and just want to play roblox and floss

>>723757119
>>723757020
That doesn't change what I said.

>>723737237
>Pokémon "fans"
Anon, they're fucking retarded faggot NPCs, they're not real humans. Legends Z-A is a giga-flop.

>>723756015
it makes sense
if the normies are happy with slop, why bother preparing them a real meal?

>>723756015
This actually PERFECTLY explains nu-Pokémon to a fucking T. I think you cracked the fucking code, anon. And, to quote a friend: "Plus they're using an engine designed for the 3DS and are trying to hamfist it into working on Switch".

>>723722819
Do you jerk off on your windows?

>>723722581 (OP)
STOP LOOKING AT MY WINDOWS I'LL CALL POLICE

>>723737341
OK not the best comparison there anon, being a pokemon fan is bad but being Indian is way worse let's be real

>>723722581 (OP)
Na, looking at ZA gameplay just makes me wish Palworld was out already. But alas, I don't buy early access and my feeling to play it will have ceased when it finally does release.

>>723760141
Its a mechanically complete game as of the Terraria update, I wouldn't hold on hope for any huge developments

>>723760535
I lost the desire to play around lvl 62. Micromanaging entire bases just became a chore and I tried downloading some mods but it didn't help much.

What I really wanted was a mod that connects the food bowl across all bases so that I can just cook in my main base so all bases could eat when I put into the bowl. But such mod either didn't exist or did not function

>>723738848
Yes anon, people tend to notice when the environment looks like half-assed dogshit.

>>723742523
>Not wanting massive clipping, massive in your face texture merging, and overall half-assed shitty textures design is somehow being a retarded boomer and caring about top-tier graphics
>this is how retarded pokefags are
LOL LMAO

>>723754554
Oh so you don't actually play video games because you worry about fags on the internet. Thanks for clarifying

>>723761562
I guarantee I play more video games than you

>>723742523
then why is this game $70 with a $30 separate dlc?
it has less features, less pokemon, and looks worse than previous entries.

>>723761730
its a legends game so compare it to the last legends game

>>723757629
It actually does faggot. Them having a large stake and brand attachment to Nintendo absolutely controls them. Take your disingenuous faggotry somewhere else plz

I haven't even actually wanted a pokemon game since playing like black and white what the fuck is wrong with all of you?

>>723742523
you genuinely need therapy at this point

>>723761708
>pokeslop
>video games

SEVENTY DOLLARS

So apparently this is the best pokemon ever made since literally every complaint is just staring at walls desperately trying to find shit to be mad about.

>>723741527
>x
Don't you EVER call it that, again.

>>723731619
Pretty sure the water in OoT was better

>>723753608
A shiver just went down my spine>>723754327

>>723761772
so compare shit to diarrhea shit? not much different

>>723762000
PLUS TIP
PLUS TAX
PLUS TARIFF
PLUS DLC
PLUS SUBSCRIPTION
PLUS FIRSTBORN

>>723761837
It actually doesn't and Nintendo has no creative control over the Pokemon IP because it isn't their property.

>>723761772
It's a Switch 2 game, so compare it to other Switch 2 games. You fags were graphics whoring for Cyberpunk and FF7. Sleep in the bed you made

>>723722581 (OP)
This game need at least 3 more years in development.

>>723756087
And this game had better monster battles too. Kek

>>723756015
I don't think the budget is why the quality has been slipping. I think game freak simply has nobody left who cares about the pokemon games, and would rather do other merchandising. The games are a very small part of the overallnpokemon empire, and mostly vestigial, from a business standpoint. And on top of that, they've never been particularly good at making games, even when their heart was in it.

>>723762048
Yeah probably. It's not a high bar but it cleared it

>>723757236
You're a fucking retard, you can ask for both, this is a multi-billion dollar company selling the most popular game series on the planet. If they can't dedicate at least a few people to unfuck the enviroments to not look like bad ps1 upscaled textures then what the fuck are they doing?

>>723761947
Yes.

>>723762738
Pokecultists are weirdly charitable to Pokémon and earnestly treat them like a small indie company

>>723763102
You'll survive

Pokemon slaves do not deserve better
In fact, they deserve worse
I hope GF continues to drop steaming shit on their plates for ever more money so they can choke it down and say "Well it's not good but it's also not bad" until they die

>>723724964
you motherfucker kek

>>723722581 (OP)
I don't like the building texture work. I do like the majority of the rest of the game.

>>723763470
I'll survive.

>>723763668
I'm sure you will.

>you want a car that looks good?
>last time I checked, you can only drive a car from the inside
>appearance doesn't matter
>and sure, maybe the tire is flat, but it can still drive forwards
>you just have to ignore those bits
>$80,000 is a reasonable price when you look at it as an individual product instead of in the context of other cars
>driving around at 40mph was literally impossible for most of human history

>>723764126
Still buying it

I stopped caring about Pokemon when I was ~18 and realized I was no longer the target audience.
Why the fuck do you people care if it's slop or not?
The series has objectively been garbage since gen 6.
It's been 3 gens of mediocrity so far and leaks say gen 10 won't be any better.
Just let it go and let the slop eaters eat their slop, they're clearly enjoying it.

>>723741527
Bro twitter is LITERALLY a majority bots

>>723722581 (OP)
Is the game even good? all I hear people talk about is the shitty flat texture on the buildings, but no discussion about the gameplay

>>723764707
>I stopped caring about Pokemon when I was ~18
18? holy fuck lmao
>The series has objectively been garbage since gen 6.
More like gen 3

>>723731619
This would be objectively be impressive if this was 5th console generation.

>>723765176
art style too shite for 5th gen

>>723738039
fucking pic related.

>>723764905
It's fucking pokemon. The gameplay is set your highest damage attack on slot one then spam A for the whole game

>>723722581 (OP)
What is this a doom wad?

>>723737014
they removed the ip counter for a reason

Why do people even try to make it about "GHWAPHIXS"?
It's not even about that; it's about attention to detail and art direction
Games like Splatoon 2 and 3, for example, don't have good graphics. You can fucking count the pixels in a lot of the textures. But they put just the right amount of detail to make the world and the characters look good, to make them look believable.
They cut corners in some areas, sure. But even something like cutting corners has to be done very meticulously. You can get away with making a window on a very faraway building in the background a flat texture, because at the end of the day, 99% of people won't notice, and even if they do, they'll happily ignore it, as long as the things that are supposed to be in the spotlight look good. It's not about hyper realism. It's about using the tools available to make the world look as believable as possible with as few resources as possible. Knowing when it is appropriate to cut corners, and when it isn't. Coming up with tricks to give the illusion of detail that may not be really there.
Splatoon doesn't have good graphics, but it makes due with the limitations and available tools quite well, which results in an appealing final product, even if the textures are not the sharpest

>>723764707
>I stopped caring about Pokemon when I was ~18 and realized I was no longer the target audience.
You weren't the target audience because you have a brain. You are the perfect age that they're aiming for. Perhaps even a little young.

>>723751915
For the Switch 1? What are you waiting for?

>>723724964
>>723753608

>>723722581 (OP)
>>723731619
>>723738039
>2025 handheld gets mogged by a phone game from 2010
GEEEEEEEEEG

>>723722581 (OP)
>IGN gave it an 8

I know reviews are a meme now but how the fuck can anyone objectively give this picture or of shit an 8? Maybe if it came out on the ps2 or xbox but we’re in 2025

>>723764485
we know

>>723755620
>All the profit goes to nintendo so gamefreak gets fuck all for decades
>Budget is somehow just 10 million
>downgrade out of nowhere
I bet it's gamefreak making it worse on purpose to shit on nintendo not giving them any money

>>723766250
based if true