Thread 723784551

https://wccftech.com/final-fantasy-vii-rebirth-tgs-2025-qa-no-dlc-rebirth-but-theres-a-chance-for-part-3/

Vincentchads... its freakin ova...

>>723784551 (OP)
What's the matter, did people not like the "remake"?

Have they not even finished disc 1 of the original in two games?

Yuffie's DLC didn't really do anything other than tease gameplay changes for Rebirth and dip into DoC stuff.

>>723784551 (OP)
They were already nickel and dimeing you with the yuffie dlc which either only served as a DoC remake bait with a 0.000000001% of ever happening or further confirming spinoff non-canon shit as canon because "lol world building"

Besides, i don't think it's too hard to imagine what the gameplay would be like for Vincent, similar to how the gun is used in XV, TPS with maybe manual aiming for weak spots for extra damage and turning into the Galian Beast as a limit break for you to control for a limited time.

so what are they gonna do with Dirge anyway?
turn it into a gacha crossover?
https://youtu.be/tERNdAYgoAI

>>723784803
They just finished disc 1. They can do both disc 2 and 3 in one game since disc 3 was just the final dungeon.

Read: low sales spooked us.

>>723785704
This lol
Sales so low they put everything into the ports on other consoles and have no time for DLC kek

sometimes I wonder if this is their last hallelujah and they'll just fold once Part 3 is out
I mean god damn, the future is looking grim

I want to like the remake stuff but the writing is so fucking bad. I dont know how anyone can take the dialogue seriously. Its below kingdom hearts level. Nomura just gets worse and worse with every game he makes.

>>723785942
>last hallelujah
I honestly believe FFXVII might be their last serious attempt, if that fails then it's lights out for SE. But before then i'll try to enjoy KH4, FFIX:R and FFX:R. Chances are we might even get a semi-remake of Vagrant Story just so they could have another excuse to add "ye olde english" voice acting to it.

>>723786256
My only hope for 17 is that they'd have to be fucking idiots to not go back to turn based after E33 blowing up the way it did.

>>723786256
pretty sure if push comes to shove they'll just drop out of the AAA market
stuff like KH will probably die for good, though

>>723786042
it's japanese, wtf do you expect lmao

>>723786325
Dude, if they got the sales of E33 they'd still be fucked and the series would die. It wasn't THAT successful.

>>723784551 (OP)
I thought that was why they still haven't released an OST Plus. Now give us the rest of the music.

>>723786453
It's not even about sales at this point, it's about making a game people want. E33 being successful at all means that's the type of RPG people looking for, SE making another Action JRPG at this point would be such stupid move that they deserve to die out.

>take original game
>split it into thirds
>give those thirds extra dlc
>game is now split into six
The absolute state of this mentality, even as a consideration.

>>723784551 (OP)
Honestly I would have preferred if cyberconnect2 development remake, They probably were staying more faithful to the OG and that's why it was canned. Can't lose the big fujo bucks if it isn't related to the compilation bullshit(still didn't save them from flopping kek).

>>723786370
>they'll just drop out of the AAA market
Honestly, a lot of them should, AA could be pretty profitable for them if they're careful. There is a wide variety of old IPs with different genres they could bring back from the dead.

>>723784551 (OP)
It´s probably because the Yuffie DLC was also utter trash and only lonely faggots bought this to goon at her 3d model. Who would buy a Vincent DLC?
Also they see how people slowly jump ship, less and less zealots keep on buying the next entry of this skinnerbox. I was also caught by this shit once.
They only want to wrap it up to find a better cashcow since FF7 R didt had the expected effect of milking retards infintely.

TLDR: >>723785704

>>723785881
>This lol
>Sales so low they put everything into the ports on other consoles and have no time for DLC kek

Yeah the sales for Remake after porting it everywhere but Switch was basically FFXIII level (7mllion). The sales for Rebirth aren't even confirmed to have cleared FFXIII-2 (3.5million) and that did well enough for them to give it DLC.

They've actually bungled FF7Remake like no other game. There's absolutely no way they expected their huge budget FF7 Remake trilogy to have sales comparable or even lower than FFXIII's slapped together asset-reuse Lightning trilogy.

>>723784551 (OP)
>There was a plan for Rebirth DLC, but we ultimately decided against it

Yeah, after they see the sales lmao.

>>723786453
>It wasn't THAT successful.
Well, 5M is like double or triple what FFXVI did and like 2M more than Rebirth, it would've save Square but it would at least make the franchise worth way more money when they sell out.

>>723785239
what is that webm from?

>>723784551 (OP)
This IS good news, I just haven't thought of how to spin it yet. Just give me a minute.

they just stole sol badguy's design for this guy?

>>723788179
Prompto DLC from XV that lets you play as him in a solo story

>>723788291
oh yeah I forgot the collection of dlcs that game had

>>723788030
>Well, 5M is like double or triple what FFXVI did and like 2M more than Rebirth,

FFXVI did at least 3million until they started hiding the figures. E33 probably has outsold every FF since FFVIIRemake. If E33 follows the typical JRPG sales curve of high upfront sales and a steep drop off it's probably more like a FFIX or FFXII, decent but not exactly setting the world on fire.

Square almost certainly want the FFXV and FFVII (original if you combine the Japan and Western launches) where they get like 5million sales first week and at full price, not after several months and only at $50.

Quick, deflect to shitposting about XV or XVI!

>>723785942
Square will outlive your bloodline.

>>723789889
Piracy will outlive their existence

>>723784551 (OP)
As if splitting the games into 3/4 parts isn't milking this shit enough, now they want to sell dlc eventhough the main excuse for splitting them into parts was "wanted to flesh things out". Go fuck yourself jewenix.

Shoot with me /v/, how many more years until I can play the Complete FFVII Remake?

>>723790441
The 3rd part releases in 2027 to celebrate og's 30th anniversary

>>723790591
Years ago if you told me it wouldn't be done until 2027 I'd have called you a doomer but now I think it's a good thing because it's an anniversary date.

>>723790441
late 2027/ early 2028, when they release a 3-disc bundle of all three parts and a separate limited edition of the same package in the shape of the jewel PS1 case for maximum nostalgia bait.

>>723790249
This reads like a JeetPT post completely misinterpreting it.

>>723784551 (OP)
>There was a plan for Rebirth DLC, but we ultimately decided against it.
kek, add DLC to the DLC.

>>723786256
>FFIX:R
It's not happening, anon, no matter how many time people like (You) try to will it into existence.

FF9 REMAKE NEVER FUCKING EVER

good. wrap it up. add a yuffie sex scene and that’s it. the e3 trailer for ff7r was fucking ten years ago. Millennials are dying old already

>>723792647
probably for the best. SE can't do anything right.

>>723792737
I don't know, the Romancing SaGa 2 remake was pretty neat if you ask me.

>>723792635
It's not fucking fair, one of the few mainline FF games that felt closest to embodying the essence of Final Fantasy and they keep handing over the budget to VII and it's many retarded spin-offs

>>723792958
FF9 is comfy but it's just not as good game as 5,7,8 or 10. Pitch me a suggestion that would make FF9 character and ability customization more interesting. Do notice the remake will have real time battles with command inputs on filled ATB meter. Go.

>>723792958
Be glad they never do it anon, they would just completely shit all over it and ruin it.
Square-Enix will never come close to the amount of soul that original Square had.

>>723793438
I mean having an MC that switches between daggers and twinblades is already pretty interesting. Could make an in-battle fusion between two daggers a thing.

>>723789889
Square died 25 years ago, the corpse is just being picked by Enix
The most successful FF title (14) is headed by DQ developers

>>723756539
>enemy just sits there and takes it
is this supposed to be fun ?

>>723787592
They're stupid. Most of the nostalgiabaited normies got their fix with Remake and didn't care for Rebirth.

Its pretty crazy how little interest there is in ff these days. An ff7 remake should have been a guaranteed money printer for them but even thats underperforming.

>>723784551 (OP)
I wouldn't have touched it after playing through that boring piece of shite, but I gotta admit, Yuffie DLC was the best part of Remake, so there's a chance that the DLC for Rebirth would have been an improvement.

>>723786042
i had fun with both games

storyfags need to put the controller down and pick up a book. there is literally zero game that can reach even the middest author

>more demake slop garbage
square is creatively bankrupt

>>723794150
As you can see Tifa perfect blocked the enemy's attack and had 3 tiers of Unbridled Strength available to do the whole combo.

>>723794282
>outsold by a fucking turn based digimon game
funniest shit I ever seen

>>723785586
Disc 1 was 2/3 script. Midgar was 1/3. They have split game that way. Rather then disc 1. 2 and 3.
Disc one was so dense with script they had to cut dungeons down to fit them in. That's why sewers and train yard were so small and short. Or transition between sectors. Remake is closer to what they wanted city section to be. Thank God for limitations of technology

>>723786256
>>723786370
Yup. They stop doing big games and focus on Gaas trash and mobile games. Maybe they have one remake project at time going on.

>>723792958
Maybe it's for the better, it was in development for a few years but apparently they just cannot get it into a state suitable for release and they dumped some assets into that anniversary celebration instead.
I guess that tells you everything you need to know about modern Square. That complete inability to just recreate an older game with some updated mechanics and better visuals is almost impressive in a way.

>>723794204
This is unironically me. New story isn't intresting. I hated rebirth. But I still love remake. I love the urban enviorment. Atmosphere and all. I will be replaying remake(until shinra hq) when I get itch. But I won't touch rebirth or 3rd

>>723786974
I didn't play the first games dlc.

I assume I missed nothing important and can just guess what happened
>Yuffie went around midgar being retarded or something
Or something like that

>>723794961
It's odd how old game are esoteric knowledge.

>>723794961
>it was in development for a few years
The only thing pointing to SE working on 9 remake was just baseless rumor leak

>>723795093
They took out some copyrights and had merchandise or something for 9. And whole lot of rumours and leaks. It was actually more concrete then oblivion remake. Then it just went away

>>723794282
It came too late and in 3 parts

>>723786256
>Chances are we might even get a semi-remake of Vagrant Story
They will never touch Vagrant Story unfortunately. Your best bet is unironically No Rest for the Wicked since lead dev namedropped Vagrant Story several times and it has many overlapping points

>>723795178
It might have worked if story wasn't so retarted. Numbers tell you what you need to know. People don't want it.

>>723784551 (OP)
Yuffie supremacy

worst game in the world already has 70 (you)s

expedition 33 game of the decade gets bumped to page 10 unless it's image spam kek

>>723794513
Damn, it sold 7 millions?

>>723795046
Yuffie went to Midgar, worked with another Avalanche cell (the Avalanche cell with Barret leading was pariah because they were more open to violence), Yuffie learns the contact person is in Wall Market and the Avalanche tries to talk her out of going there which Yuffie rebutts with the famous "Don't worry, I can do adult stuff just fine". The contact person Sonon is older Wutaian guy who had lost his little sister to Scarlet who attacked Wutai some years ago and Sonon imprints on Yuffie because his little sister was similar. Yuffie and Sonon fight giant centipede robot and they do synergy attacks. Yuffie and Sonon ride a train and Yuffie get motion sickness and she moans and grunts and Sonon covers Yuffie by placing his hands on both side of Yuffie and it looks as if they having public sex. Yuffie and Sonon inflitrate Shinra HQ and end up in same elevator with Scarlet who talks trash of Wutai and at the end of the elevator Scarlet reveals she knows Yuffie and Sonon are spies and they are forced to go through weapon testing area fighting gauntlet of Shinra robots and at the end they face Scalet who's riding her mecha. They beat Scarlet and tie her up but then commotion is hear little farther away forcing Yuffie and Sonon to leave Scalet tied up. Nero, a Deep Underground fighter from Dirge Of Cerberus is released and Yuffie and Sonon need to fight Nero with their pain receptors dialed to 100%. Yuffie and Sonon beat Nero. As they are leacing Nero gets back up again. Sonon pushes Yuffie out the closing doors and he stays inside getting killed by Nero. Yuffie cries and runs and exits the Shinra HQ only to find Sector 7 plate falling. The ending scene is Yuffie riding a chocobo outside Midgar and humming Chocobo Theme.

>>723795093
Leaked from Nvidia, leaked from Epic once more a few years later as Project Momo. Did you even look at the anniversary stuff with its own website? New artworks for everything with subtle design changes, tons of merchandise. New recording of Melodies of Life with Uematsu and the original singer. Where was this effort for the more praised FF6 a few years ago, or even a fraction of it for FF8 last year?
It's just common sense. They were working on this in whatever form, it went to shit, now they're squeezing out whatever profit they can from a failed project by pretending they are celebrating the game's anniversary.

>>723795510
Oh yeah and Yuffie also catches glimpse of Tifa and Barret returning to 7th heaven after Cloud had fallen from the reactor to Aerith's church, Tifa determined to go whore herself to find out the connection between Don Corneo and Shinra. Yuffie can't interact with neither Barret nor Tifa but she can play Fort Condor with Jessie, Wedge and Biggs, and also Roche who's standing in Sector 7 with his bike trying to track down Cloud.

Someone showed up and did a lot of work in the last 20 minutes

>>723792762
Romancing SaGa 2, Live A Live, and Trials of Mana remakes are so fun.

>>723796669
yes but those games don't have threads on /v/ every day where people say "how did SE fuck this up so bad??" and that's the true measure of success

>>723784551 (OP)
they'll find a way to sell you Dirge of Cerberus Reloaded

>>723784551 (OP)
Would have been cool but im also glad they just moved on to part 3
People would have complained anyway so i dont know why people here care so much

>>723796669
Shame VoM couldn't find the same success

>>723788225
>>723796978
Took a while, but this will have to do.

>>723796669
It's because they kept them simple and to the point. As soon as SE pulls projects in house that approach comes to a halt and things get complicated for no reason.

>>723797375
Good one

>>723797069
And then they vanish into thin air with 0 impact on anything

>>723797375
kek

>>723796752
>>723797540
lol

>>723795542
Recently Nate I think said it was frozen. I think they want to see if the dq7 reimagined formula works

>>723798545
fascinating reporting from your world of daily eceleb ff rolling news

>>723786974
Except both 7R1 and 2 are complete games, both longer and filled with more content than the original.

>>723798545
Dont you have something negative to say about it? Just to see if dont have to pummel you down for being not negative.

Rebirth just feels bad in general. You get half way into the game and everything turns to shit after that point

Wtf is even going on with zack now? It's like a retarded kids wet dream

The 3rd part is just going to be a gigantic mess

>>723798607
>>723798665
>1 minute
Imagine being THIS triggered over a post

>>723798939
The sad thing is I wasn't even talking about ff7 kek just DQ7
Must be that 37 years old roastie again

>>723798545
That's his theory, he doesn't know anything. The ones that do aren't talking and that doesn't bode well. Maybe in some years we'll learn what happened with it.

>>723799261
I think it existed at some point but it was cancelled. The dq7 theory is just my guess, since they are using toy style for it and being more free with the story treatment

>>723799261
See >>723798665
>>723798607

>>723786042
Nomura didn't write the English version you are playing. Dialogue is also filled in by different writers, it isn't just one guy.

>>723786256
There hasn’t been a good mainline game since X, or XII if you’re reasonably mentally ill. Why not just rest the series for awhile? There’s no way it makes money considering the budgets.

>>723799527
Why don't they pull a DQXI, go back to full turn-based for a game, and see what the reactions are? They were willing to dump resources into 3 (three) shitty FFXIII games, why not take a potential risk by going back to their roots?

>>723799327
Honestly I don't think they need DQ7 to test anything, 9 has always been a bigger title than that. This thing is just part of the usual fuckups but has been in the unfortunate position of leaking out. Who knows how many games like this have come and gone without making it to release.

>>723786974
It's not feasible to make a complete game in time and in budget anymore so they came up with this strategy and ended up delivering a shitooad of content while actually being able to release the games uncut. The only real setback was using Unreal but they tried their best to give it life and it's probably one of the most 'soulful' games made on the engine.

>>723799773
It's totally possible, you just have to know that not every game needs to be mega HD open world.

Can't a guy just explain away all negativity on sight without being made fun of for dedicating his life to something so sad

>>723800428
probably not. after all that's what we make fun of barry for.

>>723785704
their fault for launching it as a timed exclusive for the piss 5, if it had launched day one on PC, it would have sold much better
theres a reason they already confirmed that part 3 will release day one on PC, don't wanna make the same retarded mistake again, and I bet both my kidneys that part 3's sales figures will be leagues ahead part 2's, much more in line with what they expect from a Final Fantasy game

>>723798545
or they simply don't want to repeat the mistake of advertising multiple FF releases on top of each other, there's no venue to announce any games until TGA and TGS happened the same time they were pushing FFT, and it's patently obvious that the audience for "traditional FF" only care about FF games so DQ means jack for them

>>723800570
millions of people wanted the game buy they decided they didn't want it anymore if they couldn't get it on day 1. what a shame.

>>723800695
whatever the reason you can be sure SE are making the right moves

>>723800778
people dont want to reward shitty anti-consumer practices

>>723800930
they do if they want to play a game bad enough. I guess they just werent that excited to play it after all.

>>723800778
More like everyone forgot the game exists when the marketing cycle is over & there's no time to invest in a 50+ hour game.

>>723788030
They got paid by Sony to stay exclusive for a limited period to PS5. That hurts sales but they made way more money.

>>723801083
also true, I'll take any excuse I can to be honest
>>723801276
making a note of this for future doomerslaying

>>723801276
>but they made way more money.
So why not continue doing exclusives? Why announce that exclusives were a mistake and switch to multiplat if it made way more money?

>>723801465
because the ps5 is a pathetic weak hardware and developers absolutely detest having to optimize games for it, its the reason rebirth ended up looking like shit and running like crap
developing games for PC is much easier due to more power available for developers to experiment and implement stuff

>>723800695
I expect those cancellation rumors stem from more than just “it wasnt announced when I thought it would”

>>723784746
CompleKeks

>>723801465
Because PS4 exclusivity is more limited than expected and is short term gains where they can't keep a major franchise going due to the limited exposure. FF7 isn't just making money off the game, it is a multimedia mix which is supported by other mediums and the brand and character value. UE5 means ports are less cost and time consuming and ultImately that outweighs the limited playerbase of PS5. Even releasing ports afterwards is not as successful as releases rely on the initial hype behind the intitial release. This series also suffers from 'I'll wait for the complete edition' procrastination.

>>723802325
And by PS4 I meant PS5

Because they looked at his backstory, and they realized it boils down to pic related.

>>723794204
>>723795014
Same. Hopefully 7R3 is more concise and less bloated.

>>723794393
Not worth explaining. He’ll either complain that it’s not turn based, or that the action is perfect to whatever scenario he makes up. He plays both sides.

>>723785942
They'll just transition from AAA projects down to cheaper A or AA venues like they have been since those still sell a million or more each release for the most part. They also have steady income with Dragon Quest and FFXIV so it's not like they'd throw in the towel.

>>723792635
how i wished that you were right...

>>723803069
He’s right. Too many players were like “omg I need to do ALL the side stuff NOW” and burned themselves out.
Luckily for me it was at the end where all I have left is Brutal/Legendary combat sim. Just wasn’t in the mood of doing them. Didn’t even do Hard Mode because I would’ve done the same thing I did in part 1 (and did) of grinding all Materia to max before doing it lol.

>>723784551 (OP)
honestly glad they decided against it. Not that Intergrade wasn't enjoyable, I'd just rather they focus 100% on part 3, especially since they're gonna have to put so much shit in it

>>723785942
I think they will be relieved when 7r finally ends. The Rebirth team can have more freedom without being attached to 7 and SE already have AA projects

>>723799771
Yeah but 9 can use the toy trick like dq7r and even rewrite some parts or something, I dunno

>>723803069
With less fucking minigames

>>723797010
That game was sent out to die. I wonder why they even bothered to green light it in the first place.

Remake problem is that it tries to pander both aerith and Tifa fans instead of sticking to one waifu

>>723804219
>instead of sticking to one waifu
Yuffie, that is

>>723803595
It's like I always say: if you didn't like rebirth it's your own fault for playing it wrong

>>723804301
SHE IS A CHILD

>>723801276
>That hurts sales but they made way more money.
Yeah... that's definitely why they entered panic mode after XVI and Rebirth underperformed. It was only the MTG shit and good investments that saved their revenue

>>723784551 (OP)
i.e. sales were so bad they couldn't wasting time on a dlc lol no one would buy

>>723788030
>>723804794
Rebirth didn't even crack 2M
FFXVI is closer to 5M now, similar numbers to E33.

>>723803069
That's a retarded way to look at it. The problem is there are a lot of people that expected to get further than they actually did, and the fact of the matter is fun side content becomes more and more of a chore and less rewarding as you heavily outpace it by progressing the story

When you meander on literally every tiny thing yet still can give people their full party of course people like me are going to say it's padded to shit with not too much substantial to counterbalance it

>>723793983
Squaresoftdick cope, Enix is the only side of the company that still makes decent games

>>723804787
a child of WHAT?

>>723796916
I'd slurp it up without question

>>723805041
Yet it was still considered a bit of a failure due to the sales relative to budget. It's one of two reasons why Square Enix is adopting more of a multiplat strategy now.

>>723805415
OF WUTAI and they will pay for gatekeeping their pussy from us!

>>723805749
yes it's slightly bad news but looking at it long term its actually good news

>>723805957
I'm not putting that in brackets wtf man

>>723784551 (OP)
makes sense after rebirth flopped that they'd just want to wrap this shit up as fast and cheap as they can before making the next mobile game (EOS after 10 months)

>>723805957
I'm not saying it's bad news really, I'm just stating the objective truth that these strategic shifts are happening for a reason. Personally I think it would be worse if FFXVI was considered a massive success instead of lukewarm at best, because very mediocre and poorly paced action combat in your game is more suited for tales

>>723806310
>I'm not saying it's bad news really
of course
>I'm just stating the objective truth
naturally. objective truth and good news for SE are often the same thing.

>>723806256
WHY WAIT??
https://youtu.be/zLM7V3jrNNc

I keep thinking Tifa says “to infinity and beyond” when using her abilities

>>723784551 (OP)
I'm going to be honest here. I never even bothered with the remake from the start because of the retarded time jannies shit. What the fuck were they thinking? Apparently the excuse is they're gone now and to "get over it" but no, I don't think I will. You can't unring a bell that retarded.

>>723806470
They weren't content with killing Dissidia with NT, they had rape it's corpse too

>>723797010
it's a shame I fell out of this game. Should really give it another chance. Same with granblue fantasy relink

>>723807159
>they're gone now
Afraid not, Rebirth doubled down on them

>>723807412
Worse than I thought then holy fuck

>>723807159
Those that messed with the remake because they didn't know, didn't fall for it the second time around.

>>723807412
rebirth is fucking dumb with it because its the worst inbetween of being too similiar and too different especially after being teased about the "unknown journey" after part 1 promised things would change a lot

>>723803069
The problem was the tedious minigames and Assassins Creed garbage. Should've made a living world filled with side-quests rather than boxes to tick.

>>723803069
>>723808393
This

Compilation killed FF7 long ago, the remakes are just another aspect of that. If Compilation didn't exist then they could have taken the FF7R battle system and produced something along the lines of the Trials of Mana remake in 2-3 years and it would have sold absolutely gangbusters.
But that would require humility on the part of Kitase and Nomura and co so it was never going to happen.

>>723797069
>>723797540
It's weird because SE's mid-budget remakes somehow feels a lot better than their triple A budget games.

>>723809294
Because they're relatively unaltered, beloved games from the past. When games didn't have all that extra shit which you know what I'm talking about. The hilarious thing is FF7 Remake could've been legendary as a 1-for-1 rebuild with modern technology but they just had to chop it up into pieces and throw in meta-commentary kingdom hearts schizo shit.

>remake the remake trilogy into 1 single game with all bloat and time jannie fanfiction removed
Here just made you rich square cucks

>>723784551 (OP)
It's a real shame Rebirth didn’t sell within expectations because it's definitely one of the best games I've ever played. I hope this doesn't affect/rush the development of part 3.

>>723784551 (OP)
the middle game is the perfect one for DLC, especially if they were gonna take 3-4 years to release part 3.

I honestly dont care. This company has been crap for so long, its death will be a net positive to the industry. Everyone got screwed by them. Tomboy Raider? Shit. Deus Ex? Yeah, rip. Dragon Quest? Censored. Final Fantasy? Cucked.
The list goes on.

>>723812223
Grow the fuck up, retarded manchild.

>>723811545
With underwhelming results they'll want to wrap this whole thing up sooner rather than later and DLC would delay that further

I've been an FF fan for literally 30 years at this point, I couldn't bring myself to quit them even if I wanted to

>>723811204
They already said it wont

>>723812542
So they can do what?
Move on to better ventures when their latest Final Fantasy underperformed so badly, there are no plans for a new one?

>>723812329
>>723812843
Nice nice

>>723812983
So they can be not tied up in a project spanning well over a decade while taking up an enormous chunk of their development staff unable to work on anything else

>>723812542
Shut up.

>>723813691
but making more ff7 content is all I want from SE, forever and ever

>>723813256
Kek so angry

good im tired of replaying games again just because they added new content a year later or basically being forced to wait 8 months to a year for the game being fully finished and playable start to finish

>>723814816
Once again you are laughing and happy and I am the one who is mad! Aaaahh!

>>723812223
You have the jaded mind of an age 50+ man. There’s a reason why companies stop catering to your age group. You’re impossible to impress due to your idealized vision of the past (read: dementia).

>>723815636
>specifically saying 50 instead of 40 because you know the average FF fan is in their 40s already
lol quit larping as a zoomer you old fart. you're literally in your 40s.

>>723816137
Time out sis. I was talking about brain age. The more you talk about the “the good ol’ days”, the more amyloid plaques you have in your brain. He coulda been 30yo for all we know. lol

>>723784551 (OP)
>Vincent gets cucked by Ugly Bastard in-game
>Vincent gets cucked out of DLC IRL
Pottery.

>>723817660
>didn't even deny it
At least you're an honest granpa

>>723784551 (OP)>>723786042

its so bizarre playing this series after growing up with the OG. It has SO much baggage and lack of confidence to be itself. It's like every character is following so many coded rules that they all end up feeling bland as a result. Barret gets to go a little crazy and that's because in the OG he was the whacky one.
And the combat is somehow a spammy downgrade compared to the first part which showed promise. It was fun enough that I replayed boss battles and did hard mode. With rebirth I just don't care, synergy attacks are a mistake too and breaks the builder/spender and defensive play that remake had.

>>723788030
>>723788376
So why don't they just make more kingdom hearts games? They have disney appeal, they sell like crazy, and even when the writing is blatant garbage people still swallow it cause it's a dumb children anime game, everyone memes that kingdom hearts story is convoluted garbage anyway.
Does disney have a say in when they can make KH games or something? Why is Square still pretending people care about FF when they can churn out KH games instead ?? How tf are we not even on KH4 yet if this company is desperate to make money

>>723790880
They'd really be stupid not to do this.

>>723784551 (OP)
>Vincentchads... its freakin ova...
was the DLC supposed to be of vincent?
Anyway all this means is they decided to make part3 sooner, which is smart

>>723790441
Why would you want to? The thing about this series is you're going to finish part 1, realize hard mode is the full combat experience and replay that, then go to rebirth where the combat is completely different, moves you used in part 1 are nerfed, reworked or abandoned. Then repeat for part 3... It's so weird already to do remake -> rebirth back to back.

>>723820648
>And the combat is somehow a spammy downgrade compared to the first part which showed promise. It was fun enough that I replayed boss battles and did hard mode. With rebirth I just don't care, synergy attacks are a mistake too and breaks the builder/spender and defensive play that remake had.
I was surprised to see people praising Rebirth's combat when it never got me to care as much as Remake combat's did, glad to see it wasn't just me

>>723821159
exactly, it looks like bad news because of low sales but actually its good news, it means we'll have the trilogy finished as early as 2027 which is super soon
then we can wait for part 3s dlc

>>723790441
Never. They will bait Compilationshit for eternity. Now it will NEVER be complete! Isn't that exciting!

>>723821696
I mean the bitter people in here will take it as bad news regardless.
Hamaguchi could even say the sales are good, but we will just say he is lying.

>>723820871
KH is mostly Disney owned property, also not in the most favorable state right now.

>>723821805
even when part 3 comes out we'll know it's not REALLY the end because dlc is coming
then the dlc will REALLY be the end (not really)

>>723822097
Nicely explained

>>723784551 (OP)
Honestly I'm not even interested because we already know it leads into the movie so the plot can't go that off the rails. What a lame excuse for a 7 sequel.

>>723784551 (OP)
he looks like Sol Badguy from Guilty Gear 2 Overture

>>723785704
Read: SE is expecting their games to sell 10M plus for whatever reason, if not they think it's a flop.

>>723822449
I mean it is a flop when you spend 10 trillion dollars rendering every hair of clouds asshole for no reason

thank god they made the remakes so we got good models for 3d porn
square can fail now for all i care lol

>>723822139
They'll milk it until the end of time, I'm grateful no other FF will be fucked in the ass this hard.

>>723822639
Doesn't excuse SE's stupidity. They haven't been the graphical standard of the industry for nearly, if not more, than 20 years now and spending a lot of money on graphics is fucking stupid.

>>723822996
For sure
They'd make more money and get better reception doing another SNES or PS1 Final Fantasy but they keep doing this super realistic slop nobody wants FFS

>>723820648
> And the combat is somehow a spammy downgrade compared to the first part which showed promise. It was fun enough that I replayed boss battles and did hard mode. With rebirth I just don't care, synergy attacks are a mistake too and breaks the builder/spender and defensive play that remake had.
Anon, you just sound like a person who was overwhelmed with Rebirth’s extended combat. Almost everyone had the exact opposite opinion as you. I say this genuinely. I love FF7 Remake but i just can’t play that game anymore after experiencing Rebirth’s expanded combat repertoire. And it was done with incredible polish too. The challenge modes are still kicking my ass after 100hrs of playtime.

>>723825035
>Almost everyone had the exact opposite opinion as you.
Sometimes you say things like this and I almost feel bad for bullying you
>I say this genuinely
You're adorable

>>723825035
I mean you're gonna say I got filtered somehow but I am just speaking from experience I think it was a direct downgrade. I have beaten all KH games critical level 1, not to 'gamer brag' but as context for where I am coming from with my opinion. Remake felt like a slower grounded take on KH combat and I really clicked with it, it was KH but strategic. I just don't get the same feel in Rebirth and it gets worse because the game is bigger so each boss isn't as finely tuned as Remake. I mean in Remake I was replaying the hard fights for Abzu, airbuster, Reno, Rude, Rufus.. etc. In rebirth I couldn't name a single fight I want to replay kek. It was a HUGE downgrade to me. Even combat, they did something but the trinity of block, parry, dodging is just not the same in Rebirth. They leaned way too hard on gay synergy attacks lol

>>723825421
Honestly, we need to start beating kids with clothes-hangers again.

Rebirth received high critical praise, sweetie. And nearly every one of those reviews attributed it to the highly expanded combat.

>>723826969
And yet you're still so insecure. All that universal praise, high scores, praise, and still... one person online saying they didn't like the combat and you lose it and start talking about beating kids.

>>723820648

I got the exact same impression just from the demo. I ultimately skipped the game because the combat felt so off compared to the first one, among other reasons.

>>723804219
tifa is the players waifu

aerith is cloud's love, the one he cherishes most

cloud is seen as a self insert for some reason

>>723827127
Anon, relax, no one is going to beat you with clothes-hangers. I’m just saying you SHOULD get beaten with clothes-hangers.

>>723827663
All because you can't stand to see one anonymous nobody online say they didn't like the combat in a game you have sworn to defend with your life despite its universal praise. Most unusual.

>>723787592
I mean if they actually made it a proper remake instead of a sequel people might’ve stuck with it.

>>723826873
you are right the boss fights are less memorable in rebirth

but the combat unironically unlocks with the chadley challenges. spell blade , power cleave , doppleganger etc. each boss has its special rules , however if all you do is spam attack. the fights get longer and you become bored

>>723804050
I think the Trials remake did well, but the protag of this new game seemed like too much of a fag for me to interested.

>>723827851
the combat is no different to fromsoft games

are you really implying every turn based combat enjoyer got filtered by sekiro? kek

>>723828203
>the boss fights are less memorable in rebirth
True
I think when the trilogy is done Rebirth will be considered skippable

>>723828451
I said nothing about fromsoft or turn based of sekiro so I don't know where you're getting these implications. All I'm doing is pointing out your insecurity and tripling down on the schizoposting isn't the best way to prove me wrong, I assure you.

>>723828635
>"We're talking about jrpg game. there's no ball or gun in it so what other genre could the combat be compared to?"

>>723784551 (OP)
this whole ff7 remaster thing has been a giant embarassment
and its great entertainment cause its just going to keep going

>>723827597
speak for yourself, aerith is my waifu

>>723786370
Square is effectively out of the AAA market already.

>>723828849
>yes I am insecure despite ff7rs positive reviews, so when one person says they dont like the combat I imagine children being beaten

Just remake Dirge of Cerberus you fucking morons.

>>723828467
90% of it was a total waste of time

>>723801276
That trick only works once, Sony saw how those exclusives performed.

>>723829079
>almost 20 years since DoC
surely after 2 decades they have the necessary talent in place to make a proper TPS game out of a remake right?

>>723829116
>okay SE we'll give you a billion dollars for remake if you get us a billion sales
No problem boss! One billion sales coming up!
>...
So boss we've got another game coming up, can we have another billion dollars?
>...
Boss?
>...
Hello everyone we would like to announce our decision to go multiplat.

>>723793438
>8
8 is dogshit, you have a point with the others

>>723784551 (OP)
>Rebirth flopped so hard that they had to cancel the planned Vincent DLC
The only question is how obvious the DLC portion that they rolled into Part 3 is going to be. I bet it's going to be pretty obvious which part is the Vincent DLC.

>>723784746
Many people bought the Remake. This caused them to find out that the Remake did not interest them. As a result, Rebirth sold very poorly. It sold even more poorly than XVI, which apparently everyone fucking hates, so that's a real head scratcher. How did Final Fantasy VII sell worse than the most hated Final Fantasy game of all time? The world may never know.

>>723829649
It's scrapped, it will not be in anything.

>>723829969
probably for the best

>>723829969
>he thinks they're not going to reuse assets
>in Reused Assets: the Video Game
kek

>>723823889
Fantasian flopped you fucking moron.

>>723831435
Source for this claim?
Your ilk have been claiming the same nonsense about Tactics Ivalice as well.
SE has not released official figures.
No, your tiny Steam playerbase does not count as a source.

>>723784551 (OP)
We will never get that omega genesis conclusion

>>723829819
>As a result, Rebirth sold very poorly. It sold even more poorly than XVI, which apparently everyone fucking hates, so that's a real head scratcher. How did Final Fantasy VII sell worse than the most hated Final Fantasy game of all time? The world may never know.
this is not even true.

>>723832148
True, everyone loves the 10/10 FFXVI.
It did outsell minigamebirth 2x over thoughbeit

>>723832257
Shit bait from an ugly faggot

>>723832148
I'm afraid it's very true. Except I guess the part about everyone hating XVI. Turns out people hate Rebirth even more.