Thread 725259032

Sometimes I hate being stuck to Windows but it's the only system that works with games. Is this how Mac users feel when we made fun of them back in the day?

yes

>>725259032 (OP)
mac > win

I've never played a single game that didn't work on Linux. I play a lot of obscure 90s pc games. Emulate all consoles. And some AAA games like expedition 33.

As far as I know only very specific Chinese multi-player games dont work on linux

>>725259452

Couldn't you run VMs on Linux if you REALLY wanted to play windows only games or is it too easy/risky for them to detect

>>725259541
their anti-cheat doesn't run on VMs

>>725259541
Keep in mind "Anti cheat" software isn't about stopping cheaters 90% of the time.
It's about breaking linux support.

I moved from 7 straight to linux and all the modern anticheatslop already blocked windows 7 from running despite the game still working otherwise, so i'm not missing anything I was already enjoying

>>725259593
WTF I love anticheats now.

>>725259032 (OP)
>remove bootloader
Kiddie shit. It should be
>I am going to run rm -rf on efivars to permanently brick the motherboard

>>725259032 (OP)
>Windows
>the only system that works with games
Yeah it's crazy how all those Steam Decks were sold and yet to this day no one has ever played a game on one.

I can play OW2, NFSMW and Blue Archive on Arch so I'm very sure Linux works for gaming too.

>>725259032 (OP)
I'm staying on Windows 10 till either me or my pc dies

>>725261884
When you watched a 40th generation VHS dub of a movie, you're not really watching the movie. Same as when you play a game at 800p at poverty framerates, you're not really playing the game.

>>725259452
last time I checked Civ III doesnt. It's literally the only reason I keep a windows (7) partition around.

>>725265237
>trusting llms with numbers
stay the fuck away from linux, retard.

>>725265237
I can't imagine being this mentally retarded. How the fuck do you even function?

>>725265428
>>725265478
Funny how there's never any counter-argument, just the same crying. Always so angry too, clearly a bitter pill to swallow
>i-it's not real!!! my stats are real but I wont show them!!

>>725265536
You can't shill free software, just like you can't be racist to white people, chud. :3

>>725261884
You know speaking of, it's sort of funny how fucked the perspective on the Steam Deck is because like, actual organic gaming communities don't exist anymore and Valve doesn't pay for ads for it.
So people are just like, playing games on them.
And then the chinese and other retards ruined it because "popular games on the steam deck" became something people licensed out top spots on by botting
Because IIRC the deck top played doesn't actually check if it's being played on a steam deck, just if it uses the steamOS iso and is currently in game mode which is where you get frankly mindboggling shit like a stardew valley clone with 500 active players having a higher ranking than fucking TERRARIA

>>725265582
Apparently

>>725265536
Wtf happened to Australia?

>>725265691
What happened to what now?

>>725265691
It's part of India.

>>725259032 (OP)
fixd

>>725265848
thats why every linux thread is full of winjeets shilling

>>725265881
>SAAR BUY THE AMD AND THE RED HAT SAAR

I've been trying to set a custom resolution for hours now and it doesn't seem to work. There's a dozen of solutions and everyone ends their post with "lol didn't work"

>>725266043
custom resolutions are always a bit hacky, because resolutions are inherently about what the monitor says it supports.
what you can do is run your shit through gamescope and fake whatever resolution you need for specific applications.

>>725259452
I've been on Linux since 2020 and recently needed to install Windows 10 on a spare SSD because I wanted to join my friends playing Battlefield 6, which uses mandatory EA spyware.
Also, recently snagged an Oculus Rift CV1 for cheap to dip my toes into VR, and as far as I can see the project to get its controller tracking working properly in Linux has been abandoned for years.
These are both edge cases though, and I feel I shouldn't need to bend over backwards to please EA just to play their game. The Rift is ancient so I understand that nobody really cares about it anymore. It was fun enough to convince me to put away some cash for the next Valve headset though, and afaik both the Vive and the Index work great on Linux.

>>725266043
Welcome to Linux.
Every Linux troon will tell you "it just works" (with xeir distro of choice of course) until it doesn't, which is 90% of the time, then prepare to be gaslighted into you not wanting to do whatever the fuck you're trying to do (usually something simple that actually works flawless everywhere else).
Don't forget to order the HRT and programming socks!

>>725266550
That's been my experience everytime I tried linux. Nothing ever works, every thread out there is filled with people spouting random solutions that don't apply to your flavor of distro. Recommendation you install some random package because the problem vaguely reminded of an issue probably related, only to find out that isn't compatible or its been deprecated with no real alternative. And in the middle of all this you have a bunch of nerds arguing over why their solutions are retarded because they didn't do it the way they would have liked so they start arguing amongst each other over methods while forgetting what the problem was that started the mess.

I hate Linux

>>725266223
I know my monitors support it because it worked on Windows through Nvidia Control Panel. But even doing common resolutions to see if I'm doing the steps right don't work. And it doesn't matter because none of it sticks on a reboot. It all reverts.

>>725267104
yes linux is very fragmented, so ymmv depending on the pc you have, the distro you install, and the desktop environment you choose.
the good news is that the big distros (fedora and ubuntu) just work for most use cases, aka opening the browser.

>>725267249
Custom resolutions used to be real easy back when everything used Xorg. I tried once after moving to Wayland and more or less gave up immediately because every topic I found about custom resolutions only applied to Xorg, and getting my custom resolution running wasn't THAT important at the time.

>>725265881
>make thread about windows
>windows users answer
>AAAAAAAAAHH!! You WINJEETS are SHILLING!!!! I'M BEING SHILLLED!!!!

I don't care about shitnux. It was made for programmer troons, not gamers. Reminder Valve had to step in with proton otherwise Linux would remain completely incompetent with anything related to gaming for years to come.

>>725267660
Proton is just a packaging of things that already existed

>>725267104
Personally I just google the issue and my distro and usually there's a solution. I only installed linux for the first time at the beginning of this year though.

>>725259032 (OP)
>watch random youtuber play Max Payne 1
>has to use hex editor for the game to start
>it still glitches in cutscenes, more hex editing
>oh here's the physics glitches because of uncapped FPS, have to download DX wrapper
>mfw on linux it's literally just install and click play

>>725267104
>Nothing ever works
>"hey chatgpt im a retard and i have problem how fix?"
Wow so hard

>>725267953
You think I didn't try that? All it did was regurgitate the same broken shit that I found during my own searches.

>>725268081
well you've given us no information about the problem. most of the time people come from windows and want linux to work exactly the same which is the source of most of their "problems"
anyhow linux does have problems with no easy solution, like good luck getting some laptops to work correctly. this also applies to wifi and printers but again, ymmv with some actually working better under linux.

>>725259032 (OP)
nuking the bootloader of any OS is actually extremely simple. It's just that 99.99% of Windows users are complete fucking retards that get a panic attack when they see a black box with text.

>>725267104
Why would you even want to run that goyslop anyway? Tux Racer works fine.

>>725266408
>Also, recently snagged an Oculus Rift CV1 for cheap to dip my toes into VR, and as far as I can see the project to get its controller tracking working properly in Linux has been abandoned for years.
OpenHMD has been folded into Monado and any progress about openHMD is on the Monado discord, not on the OpenHMD github.
I think the version you're going to be looking for is going to be here https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/thaytan/monado (branch that is trying to add support for the Rift-S), provided that the 6DoF support for the CV1 isn't already in standard Envision.
I would recommend not trying to fiddle with SteamVR and to just use Envision instead.

I don't know how much it has moved forward since I last tried it and WiVRN is good enough for me that I'm not going to try it, but it's probably still not great.

>>725265401
works on my machine (tm)

>>725267660
You think Windows NT was made for gamers?

>>725268567
appreciated post. will give this a try once i've played through the games i already installed on windows.

>>725267953
>unironically asking AI for help
Holy shit lol.

>>725259275
>paying even more for equally bad game compatibility
lol
lmao

>>725265881
Because linuxtroons keep making threads outside their dedicated containment zones. It's like watching a ghetto nigger wander into your white neighbourhood and shit up the place.

>>725269843
...or just click the button that says local account?

Still not using linux lmao

>>725268774
Games worked on windows perfectly fine at the same time when gaming for Linux boiled down to "okay... it only runs in a window... with low fps... and no sound... but hey, it runs!"
Lol.
>>725269843
Holy shit. You don't even use windows. You just... make a local account and don't sign in to microsoft.

>>725265237
What would that have to do with a spike in users within a certain time period?
It's because Microsoft is starting to overreach with their garbage software in Win11.
What's the point of noticing shit if you're just going to be wrong?

>>725269893
>>725270027
There is no option to not use a microsoft account during first time setup now

>>725270118
>hasn't had a hotmail account since the mid 90s

>>725270191
>moving goalposts
you will use the microsoft cloud and like it.

>>725267823
I'm a pretty recent convert too.
I'm still waiting for the day that I have to mention to my friends that I switched to Linux because I can't play a game or get something to work with them, but it has yet to happen.

you will chop off your cock and like it

>>725270118
Lmao since fucking when

>>725270312
how did you know I upgraded to windows 11?

>>725270281
>I moved goalposts with my first post in the thread
>because /v/ is one person
Why not just use your hotmail account that you've had since the mid 90s?

>>725270191
>has a microsoft account for 28+ years
>brags about it

>>725270339
windows 11? this is a linux thread!

Does FL Studio not work on Linux? I've heard people online saying that, and that's the only reason why I haven't moved to Linux yet.

>>725270349
Most people made them in their 60s.

>>725270342
>Why not just use your hotmail account that you've had since the mid 90s?
because i'm using linux
>>725270330
microsoft is increasingly forcing its vertical integration on you and making windows a walled garden. it's just standard user lock in and trying to make you use other services (and pay) like onedrive you don't care about.

>>725270496
>because i'm using linux
Oh, good morning, sir.

>>725270118
Guess it really is super hard to click the local account button after huh? And I thought loonix users were smart. I guess they do it to try to force you into their shitty ecosystem like apple does.. should you be able to do it initially like the old times? Yeah no shit they should, but this inconveniences you for a grand 10 seconds once per PC install kek
>>725270330
Latter half of win 11 lifespan probably, I started seeing this installing machines for my family since atleast a year ago. I just make a BS account up and delete it for a local one

>>725270463
https://github.com/BenevolenceMessiah/flstudio_setup

>>725270521
good morning you wee shit.

how are geforce GPU drivers on linux these days? historically amd has been 10x better than team leather jacket on linux right?

>>725270342
Who owns hotmail and all the accounts+data?

>>725259032 (OP)
Playing windows 7 and earlier era games is literally easier on linux than on windows now.

>>725270634
>how are geforce GPU drivers on linux these days
usable, with a 5-20% performance loss.
>amd
yeah linux is team red. performance parity and drivers in the kernel.

>>725270634
VRR kinda sucks and DX12 performance is bad
Everything else is on par or better than windows

>>725270634
I'm not having any issues.
>t. 4090, cachyos

>>725270562
Fake news confirmed. Nothing forced me to make a microshart account.

>>725265536
>Australia just gone
>Tasmania and New Zealand still present
The fuck man, we don't deserve that

>>725270562
>There is no option to not use a microsoft account during first time setup now
>should you be able to do it initially like the old times? Yeah no shit they should

I'm glad you agree with me. I'll disregard the rest of your cope

>>725270785
Try to install a fresh one now and it should force you. But I do think EU has a way superior version of win 11 that let's you opt out of a lot of the bullshit either in the works or maybe it's already out? MS got forced into making things optional because of laws or something, I know you can opt out of edge entirely etc on that.

>>725270634
You won't have issues if you don't use certain features.
For instance this french not canadian but canadian youtuber that often showcases benchmarks on linux has been using nvidia GPUs for a while. He has no "issues" other than DX12 performance. But he does not use every feature in his GPU. For instance he never uses VRR at all. He disables that. He uses X11 more often than not. Which is working better on nvidia than Wayland is. Wayland has features X11 doesn't. You have to understand that half of the nvidia linux users you'll find are not using certain features (maybe even because their attached monitor won't support them anyways), so they're content and they don't see the rough edges. A lot of nvidia users don't actually undervolt their GPUs, so it stands to reason that many linux nvidia users wouldn't. So they don't see it a problem not to have a software equivalent to MSI afterburner.

>>725270923
I had a fresh install a few months ago.

Isn't it just a matter of time until novideo is as good as AMD on linux with them open sourcing the driver?

>>725265536
It's because whoever made that image lumped Android in with desktop Linux. The stats are apparently from https://gs.statcounter.com, and this is the chart for India.
>https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/india

>>725270921
There's no cope since I said it's dumb, but it's also dumb to make a big deal about needing 10 seconds extra once per SSD install. You'll swap your OS drive how often exactly? Maybe every 5 years? Atleast argue in good faith and call it a nothingburger anon. There's plenty of worse shit in windows we could talk about kek, it's getting so bad even I'm considering linux next time.
>>725271210
Interesting, I installed a win 11 laptop for a family member a few months ago and it forced MS account on setup. Does it depend on the edition? Craptops come with home always

>>725270073
There is no user spike. It's linux users trying to capitalize on the transition period between windows versions this has been a thing since 98 at least. They will disappear like a fart on the wind only to appear when the next version reaches it's end.

>>725267660
>Reminder Valve had to step in with proton otherwise Linux would remain completely incompetent with anything related to gaming for years to come.
Ever since Windows 8 it was obvious that Windows will go on the live service slippery slope. GabeN just realized this. Nier Automata DXVK dev also helped to make Linux gamer friendly.
>>725270027
>Games worked on windows perfectly fine
lol lmao even. I love watching this Dosgamert guy messing around with Win98 and games. Half the games don't even install and aren't playable with some patches from patches-scrolls.
>gaming for Linux boiled down to "okay... it only runs in a window... with low fps... and no sound... but hey, it runs!"
That was like 15-20yrs ago when we didn't have Vulkan.

>>725259032 (OP)
>but it's the only system that works with games
you're retarded bro. unretard yourself

Linux users inhale insane amounts of copium. Linux isn't ready for desktop usage, much less for gaming. Peripheral's software doesn't work for the majority of racing wheels, mice and keyboards, there are plenty of bugs and system freezes, performance in almost all games is way worse, you will still need to use the console try to fix some issues like for example being able to control your fans.
And worse of all some features are absent, don't work properly or straight up don't exist, for example undervolting a GPU.

Nothing just works on linux.

>>725259275
Mac can't uninstall anything. Of the default apps installed on a Mac, these 5 are the only ones you can uninstall, and there's even more in the folder and on the next page.
Even Windows 11 Home isn't this bad.

but also at least for me Edge is the fastest browser. Like it just loads pages faster than my Firefox does, but I still use Firefox because I'm too lazy to switch.

>>725271853
Jagged Alliance 2 1.07 has better compatibility with Linux + Lutris than modern Windows.

>>725272047
Cool, if you have issues anyone can go to the PCGamingWiki and use the solutions provided there, of just drop DXVK.

Is Windows 11 a good OS?

Is it really filled with bloatware and telemetry or are people just exaggerating?

What's the best way to make it lean and not obnoxious? like Win 7/10

>>725270675
>Microsoft is going to sell the data of Dick Buttface, and all the spam he had routed there instead of his real email address
Seriously. Do you people even think before you post?

whats stopping me from throwing steamOS on my desktop? i have a steam deck and really only the issues i have are certain finicky mods where i need to force it to use some DLL but other than that it’s breddy gud.

sometimes when i read how someone completely breaks Windows and "has to reinstall it" I just realize they're taking a piss and are talking about whatever linux they installed.
>oops i deleted the OS
>ha ha Loonix will let you do that because you control the commands you type in to the console

>>725272298
It's no more bloated than 10 as long as you shut off copilot in the settings or use the LTSC version which you should, just like with 10)

>>725272403
>shut off copilot in the settings
>assuming you went to the MS store and manually installed it just so you could shut it off in the settings

>>725272390
>I argue about problems that were real in my mind
Least schizoid Windows fan

>>725272371
Not really made for desktop you can't install anything by default except flatpaks
It's no different from desktop linux for gaming so you could use bazzite or arch or something

>>725272371
Hardware compatibility issues can crop up. I'd rock Bazzite until Steam OS has a general support release.

40 yo vtuber.

>Install Wise Program Uninstaller
>Force Uninstall Microsoft Edge, CoPilot, Edgewebview and other trash like 365Office, Sticky notes, Get Help etc.
>Ask CHATGPT a CMD command to stop Windows 11 update notification and copy the command to stay in Windows 10

get good

>>725272594
>>725272680
>bazzite
looks good, thanks anons

>>725272738
>uninstall edge, copilot...
you can't really do that in windows 11, because those are a core part of the system, if windows can't find them it will break shit.

>>725271297
Nvidia didn't open anything other than their shitty kernel modules. And even that is because they moved more functionality to their firmware. You still need their proprietary userspace driver.

>>725272738
>Copilot
>I installed it manually and had to forcefully uninstall it
What causes this insanity?

>>725272778
CachyOS is way better, trust me, I've tried Bazzite and it's shit.

wow, I can'ty wait to use bazzite; the distro for faggots! <3

>>725272925
>arch is better
yes, but it's also not made for retards.
>>725272949
don't forget to buy your programmer socks.

>>725272873
lol. My computer works just fine.

>>725272986
lawl
ruffles have ridges
le chairman mao

>>725272975
It comes with a GUI to install and update packages, it's retard-proof

/g/ Anons, should I install pirate Windows 7 or Linux Mint?

I don't care about Windows 7 having no security updates. I'm just a nobody.

>>725273108
Why should you do either one?

>>725273108
you should install windows 7 if you're not trans

>>725273073
yes i have seen this "retard proof gui" designed by idiots that shoved a bunch of buttons and think it makes it new user friendly.
the whole point of a distribution is to make the experience seamless, if i have to open a gui with a bunch of fixes your distro is a failure.

>>725259032 (OP)
>it's the only system that works with games
games like what?

>>725273164
I refuse to install W11. I used CMD command to stop W11 update notification with --force. I know Microsoft will pursue and remove that command eventually.

I didn't take the vaccine. I am not updating my shitty W10 to W11. I consider Windows 7 because It's stable enough to shitpost on 4cha, watch Youtube and use bank.

>>725272483
Copilot is built into the OS and has a toggle in Settings. You cannot install it from the store. At least that's how it was in 23H2. As soon as LTSC 2024 came out I ditched Pro and went to that.

>>725273291
>ESL rambling
>doesn't have a 4000/6000 series GPU

>>725265237
Blindly trusting LLMs is literally the most Indian thing you can do. OpenAI gets ddosed every time India wakes up.

>>725265237
>LLM math
>needing the AI to do a simple ratio for you
I think the Indian is coming from inside the house...

>>725269889
>>725267657
>>725265932
damn dudes, so sensitive...

>>725273327
It's not installed here and never was, and I'm not using some faggy "debloated" version. The only options in settings for it are for the Copilot key on keyboards that have them.

>>725267930
Please tell be that's a boy and please also tell me his name.

>>725273436
It was under taskbar settings.

>>725273291
W11 is also stable enough to shitpost on. Just stay on 10 then. It got extended support (and I am not talking about LTSC)

>>725270634
My 4060 runs absolutely everything.

>OP creates thread already hating Linux because he couldn't get it working
>people rightfully tell him he's retarded
>goes on a posting spree of calling Linux users Indian in the most Indian way imaginable
This thread is probably just some Microsoft bot, I'm out

>>725273436
>I'm not using some faggy "debloated" version
LTSC is an official SKU from Microsoft, it's not a debloated version. It's better than any debloat script because it doesn't have these components to begin with and it has the old Windows 7 versions of all programs like Notepad, Paint, Calculator, etc that use 1/10th of the RAM of the new 10/11 versions.

>>725267823
Roll!

>>725273597
So pointless if you're not insane.

>>725270573
bless you, holy shit this is just what I needed

>>725273359
>>725273387
>ignoring the other sources posted
also guess this time LLM is reliable though?!?
>>725273207
the hypocrisy of loonix posters is palpable

My main complaint right now is for some reason, Palworld's memory leak thing is so bad in Linux. I play for about 1 hour, and things start to slow down, so I try to save-quit and it takes forever to get back to the menu.
It does the same for me in windows but at least the saving is almost instant, so it allows me to go back in immediately

>>725260167
I don't think those file descriptors support the remove operation

>>725273819
grok is this llm reliable saar

>He doesn't use Wise Uninstaller or Ccleaner Pro (pirated) to remove all the useless Windows apps and their registry edits
>He thinks Windows will crash without CoPilot or Microsoft Edge

ayy lmao

>>725272949
I will no longer use your distro.
Seriously, please tell me there's a bazzite alternative that isn't SteamOS that isn't completely woke.

>>725273842
bind 'wineserver -k' to a shortcut and you can kill every running game in .1 second.

>>725273819
no one cares. quit pajeetposting.

>>725274018
bazzite is just fedora with a bunch of gaming shit preinstalled.

I didn't read the thread but is this the most unfunny macro format ever? Who came up with this shit?

>>725274104
reddit

What distros does /v/ fancy nowadays?

>>725274025
I mean, I tried exiting it earlier before it got me back to the menu and it corrupted my world. Good thing steam backed it up so I just recovered it so I figured saving just takes forever in it compared to Windows.
Will that help?

>>725267823
>Rollposters use Linux
perhaps Linux isn't too bad...

>>725274164
saving? absolutely not. this command is a fuck you game i'm closing you NOW.

>>725274086
But it's her distro, so you have to support it.

>>725259032 (OP)
I think this will be the last Windows PC I have outside of work. I've had to undo the scans and telemetry stuff a few times because it's like updates enable them again and the computer becomes unusable from disc usage. The sad thing is that it ran slower than my max storage older PC with lower specs due to those 'features'.

Idk what I'll do for gaming, I guess I could try a Deck or Chinese ripoff, but I also use the Windows softwares for creative works and game modding, and I'm not too willing to move to Linux for that. Probably would have to keep Windows VM just for the creative stuff if my laptop ever kicked the bucket.

>>725270191
The bigger frustration currently is with Hotmail. I hate it so much and want to dump it, but everything requires a phone number now so it's hard to get rid of it.

Love me some Debian.

>>725273819
I posted that pic just to show that ChatGPT's claims can vary, dumbass.

>>725274219
Oh sad.
But yeah it's my biggest issue iwitht. Managed to make the rest of my other games and tools work well in it so at least I'm good on that.

Compared to only a few years ago linux desktop is much more user friendly.
Out of the box experience for some distros is surprisingly good if all you want to do is playing games and browse webz.
Still not viable for normalfags but that is a positive in my eyes.

>Linux shills
>W11 apologists saying it's good enough for 4chan despite being bloated.

Should I just stay on W10 or Windows 7?

>>725274516
You should switch to MacOS

And yet industry will still use Ubuntu.
Because it fucking works.

>>725274352
Protonmail doesn't require a number, but it's a goofy address.

>>725273459
>doesn't know who she is
You need to be over 18 to post here.

>>725274617
>no internet

>>725274639
>she
Fuck it I'm out.

>>725274516
Switch to Linux or stay on 10. Dont use 11.

>>725274807
Airgapping is guaranteed at the system level as long as you ignore the lack of user-kernel separation

>>725259275
based, linux trannies need not reply

>>725274913
Stop being gay

>nobody talks about my distro
>its the best one

>>725274372
Does it get kinda old or boring with the up to 2 year old packages? do you ever have to use back ports for gayman?
Considering switching from Arch to either Debian or Fedora

>>725274960
Gaming status?

>>725274617
King Terry lives in death

>>725274960
>You?
>nah
it's samfagging time

>>725275252
>Does it get kinda boring
spoken like a true burden on society.
Anyway, you'd want a distro with newer packages just because gaming-related packages are constantly improving. I think Fedora is perfect. It's reasonably hands off and keeps you updated.

>>725269893
>>725270027
Straightforward liars

>>725272949
Bazzite is the best!

>>725271809
>buncha unconcealed lies
It's a bit unnerving that there are real Microsoft shills on this board.

>>725266043
Use xrandr, set the xrandr command in your xinit file. If you don’t know how to do any of that then read the man pages.

>>725276291
You can't shill pay products, just like you can't be racist to black people.

>>725274913
Based

>>725276291
they're feds you idiot

linux trannies are hilarious
they claim they care about open sauce, freedom and shit and then go around shill steam drm store
they claim they hate windows yet simp for an ex microsoft millionaire (gaben)
windows gods literally have access to everything and everything just works so they have all the time to lift, be healthy, actually use their pc or something while linux trannies try to re invent fire
i pity them a lot

>>725259032 (OP)
>Sometimes I hate being stuck to Windows
No you don't.

>>725278478
>he says while posting tranime

>>725278563
Satania hates trannies

>>725278628
dilate

>>725278628
>Satania
>named after Satan
>transsexuality is a mortal sin and an abomination
>so is ahneem watching
I don't think you thought this through.

>>725278478
itoddlers btfo

I'm not sure why there's even a debate between OS, if you are a power user who doesn't play league of legends or other kernel level anti-cheat games, Linux is logically the best choice. If you're a basic to intermediate level PC user that plays the aforementioned games, stick to windows.
Linux objectively gives you more control over your operating system, but if you would rather trade control for(at this point, just slightly more) ease of use, then just use windows.

>>725266550
>>725267104
That's been my experience using Windows. Nothing ever works as intended, especially if it involves old programs/games, and the lack of shell support means you spend ages looking for the right GUI or being stuck in Win10's fucking atrocious settings (something the shills never mention for some reason).

But worst of all is the fact that Windows NEVER EVER EVER gives you a proper explanation of what went wrong. All programs come with an error and an arbitrary number that means fucking nothing. In Linux I can just run the fucking command and it tells me what went wrong in the output.
Not to mention the fact that the programs are open source means you can just go to the Github repository and autists will have already found a solution to the bug for freeze. What do you do on Windows? Contact the Indian tech support? Fucking retards, lol.

>>725266550
Faggot

>>725280050
There's literally crash dumps and logs. This is an old dump from OpenMW, where the problem is clearly in OpenAL.

>>725280050
>try linux because /v/ says it runs everything now
>half of my games work but only if I download some random tranny's distro patch for that specific game and who knows if it's still maintained
>mouse stops working for some reason
>controller may or may not work
>the other half of my games either don't work or are old enough that no one cares to maintain them or care that they work
yeah lol no
gb2 your troonden, faggot

>>725280957
what games are you installing "distro patches" for? I can't imagine "half" of your games don't work unless the only thing you play is games with invasive anti cheat, especially with how well proton works now.

>>725280957
None of this has ever happened to me. Maybe you're too retarded for free software.
>>725280618
What am I look at exactly?

Linux doesn't have paint.NET and AIMP

>>725265237
Lol you literally refuse to think for yourself

>>725281236
The proper explanation of what went wrong. You can even click the exception and get a stack trace.
>>725281253
I used to be on an IRC channel with the guy who wrote Paint.NET. He had a good file dupe checker as well.

>>725280957
What makes someone to make up things that didn't happen? Is it sharteen tourism? There are no kernel patches that make games magically work. Mouse can't stop working. Controllers literally work the same way as on Windows (ginput, xinput and whatever PS uses). USB way or BT.
>are old enough that no one cares to maintain them or care that they work
early 2000 and before games all need wrappers to make them work. But mesa has better opengl support than any other driver.

>>725281998
I hate lincels as well, but that post was hyperbolic at best and an absolute lie at worst.

>>725271307
so android is not linux?

>>725281429
Can you get in touch with the devs in less than a day by posting on their repo? Can autists look at the code and locate the issue for you? Also, if you've never seen nonsensical 0xc errors, then you haven't tinkered with your machine much.

>>725282101
The hex codes are there for noobs to paste in support tickets. You can dive into what really happened if you're not retarded. And no, I can't get in touch with a man in a dress who considers me a nazi within a day in response to an error.

>>725282084
Android is Linux, but it was bought by Google and they jeetified it. Nowadays, iPhones are actually better because they come with less bloat.

>>725281998
>>t-that didn't!
kek, seething so hard that you can't even type out your strawman post correctly

>>725282084
may as well not be, especially with jewgle lockdown

>>725282270
>they jeetified it
>suddenly

>>725282084
It is the only linux that matters which makes linuxfags seethe, if we had android on pc it would actually be a major competitor instead of 3% market share trannytinkeros.

>>725282232
Yeah, you'd rather get in touch with an Indian that will ask you if your computer is plugged in lol.

again, its not that games don't work on linux, because with stuff like proton and lutris, 99% of games work fine on linux now. The only things I cannot play have been extremely sloppy multiplayer games that run excessive anti-cheat like riot games.
its the fact that other external software does not.

>>725282404
Imagine dealing with tech support instead of knowing how to fix things. Good morning, sir.

>>725282273
Did you leave a thumbs up?

>>725282457
I do fix my own errors and that's why I'm filtered by Linux :)

>>725282084
Well ofc not It's GNU/Linux

>>725282531
NOT filtered...

>>725282373
Forgot to add a soijak, nigger?

>>725282809
No need to post one, you looking in the mirror is enough.

>>725283447
Hecking epic own, updooted!

>>725280957
>have Windows laptop
>Windows one day fails to boot
>no matter, that's what the Windows Recovery Environment is for
>automatic repair fails
>tells me that no log file was created
>huh
>open console
>apparently, WinRE cannot detect my storage device
>how WinRE managed to boot without seeing the device where it was loaded from eludes me to this day
>spend a while starting at my laptop's specifications
>apparently, my motherboard has this thing called Intel® Rapid Storage Technology
>put IRST driver on a USB drive
>load IRST driver into WinRE
>run automatic repair
>it succeeds
>boots to WinRE again
>perform system rollback
>it succeeds
>boots to WinRE again
>load restore point from 3 years ago
>it succeeds
>boots to WinRE again
>become worried about hardware issues
>insert bootable Linux medium
>mount drive without issues
>back up drive image to cloud
>shut down computer
>insert Windows installer drive
>fails to detect storage device because I forgot to give it the IRST driver
>put IRST driver on the installer's drive
>reinstall Windows
>it works
>check SSD health
>0 errors recorded
Explain.

>>725259452
The only game i want to play and doesnt work on Linux is BF6, everything else just works

i've been on linux for about a whole year now and every single game i've tried playing worked right out of the box

>>725283763
>using gnome
skill issue

>>725283763
>>725284121
I’ve never encountered this with Window Maker.

>>725259032 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXRdeZki5hc

>>725259032 (OP)
You can game on Linux now.

>Install Arch Linux
>Download TF2
>Emoji's in peoples names show up as boxes
You tricked me /v/

>>725284121
never got this on my setup

OP is a fag, and I say that as someone who willingly uses Windows, not because I'm stuck with it.

Linux gaming has come a long way, even I acknowledge that.

>>725283763
This can be disabled, although, I would say as a matter of principle, no one should donate a penny to these people whatever much you use gnome.
>>725284121
I think this might be able to be disabled too, but I haven't done that and never saw it, still, this one only appears in december once.
These people are rabbid leftoids too, so even though the DE is good, I would wager my support for these people too.

>>725284625
You are just missing some fonts Anon, no biggie.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Microsoft_fonts

>>725284625
https://github.com/irql-notlessorequal/tf2-linux-fonts

>>725284625
you're probably just missing some fonts, there's a reason people recommend installing proton version even when there's a native version available.

>>725284625
Install the noto fonts emoji or whatever they're called, then they should appear there.

>kek have to fiddle with fonts
troonix every1

>>725259275
Technically true, just by mere fact that mac usually just werks between the strict boundaries of the terrible UX applel designed.

>>725284973
By emulating windows, native linux gaming is exactly where it was. This is the biggest problem with it, linux just can't embrace being essentially windows emulation the os and tries to distance from it in everything but gaming, when it should do the opposite and embrace it.

>>725285258
You have to twiddle with fonts in Windows too if you use a non RGB pixel format display.

>>725285324
wine is not an emulator.

>>725285570
and you will never be a woman

>>725285258
I had to fiddle with fonts on windows when I was playing some RPGM h-games.

>>725285603
No argument. Wine is /lib/ld-linux.so.2 for PE32s. Just because you're low IQ doesn't mean everyone else is.

>>725285697
it still is an emulator
and your will never be woman

>>725285570
Fine, it's a container.

>>725284121
>>725284883
>>725284998
I've never gotten it either. I'm guessing it varies from distro to distro? Either way, software having a donation link isn't unusual. It's only annoying when they implement paywalls or ask for your money constantly (like WinRar).

>>725285738
You will always be a stupid nigger

>>725285901
>stop deadnaming my emulator
lol. lmao even.

while loonix has a lot more freedom and no spyware, it also doesnt really have enough users to make the software good
most mainstream shit works on linux but as soon as you want to do something niche youre fucked
want to play anti cheat slop? lol no
want to play racing simulators? lol no there's no wheel drivers
want to play vr? shit barely works

>>725285570
>semantics
I accept your concession.

Would be better if you spent that time reverse engineering proprietary programs to make them work on linux with or without devs blessing, or bundle in proprietary codecs into base install, but that would be expecting too much out of linuxfags.

>>725285956
What is freedom where literal bug device is installed on each CPU since 2007?

>>725273819
Different people posting different things isn't hypocrisy.

>>725286034
then fix it? everyone can contribute

>>725285738
If it's an emulator, then so is the GNU userland. You're just low IQ or ignorant. You don't even know how Windows or Linux actually work and should stop posting.

>>725286074
>just remove the NSA device on your CPU die bro
nigga your dumb lmao

>>725286140
You first have to prove your implication. It's patently obvious that Windows is literal malware, but none of you hardware schizos can ever back up your claims.

>>725285603
>>725286031
>>725285939
WINE literally stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator because the correct term is compatiblity layer. Also, it's prevalent in MacOS as well as Linux.

>>725286378
They can tamper RNG device on your CPU which means your encryption can be compromised. This is just a simple example. Like DMA cheating device plugged in on PCI card, a bugged CPU can easily snoop or tamper on RAM without your OS knowing about it.

>>725286447
>compatiblity layer
So an emulator.

>>725286447
literally an emulator
>B-B-BUT-BUT WINDOWS COMPATIBILITY MODE
it's native on windows and is an emulator. even microjeet said so.

>>725285956
The only things that don't work are the result of active malfeasance or malice derived from stupid management decisions.
Newer VR also just werks if you check compatibility, it's mostly the older headsets that have issues.

W10 LTSC or W11 LTSC?

Ofc only gayming related, what features does W11 has that is lacking with W10?

>>725286575
You're retarded. The bug you're referring to was a nothingburger. It just meant that the CPU could claim you have or do not have enough entropy. Any user space rng user should be using the OS entropy source to seed their own CSPRNG. You as a normal piece of shitware shouldn't really use rdrand and have no use-case to call rdseed. Either way, AMD fixed it in a microcode update.

>>725286762
literally no difference
w11 LTSC because you probably won't migrate any time soon
w10 LTSC probably up to 2030

>>725286832
"Bug" as mean a bugging device, you fucking retaded troonix user.

Arguing about whether Wine is an emulator is such a waste of time. If the Linux user were to concede that Wine is an emulator, then what? What does this imply? That it's one of the lowest-overhead emulators ever made? Cool. I'm not seeing the big insult to Linux. Are we presuming that emulation is somehow "bad" even though this isn't the case anywhere else except Nintendo fanboy threads? Emulation is a good thing. Emulators are based, and no, "emulating" Windows doesn't mean you might as well be using Windows. Never once while playing a game in DOSBox did I feel that it would be better just to install DOS on bare metal. Doing that would be cool as a hobby project if I had some vintage hardware but I don't, nor do I have time for that shit. I will emulate DOS and I will "emulate" Windows, for different reasons but the result is the same: all you can do about it is cope and seethe.

>>725286762
windows 11 takes screenshots of your desktop so that you can easily find stuff you missed.
luckily you can reproduce this in linux too with https://github.com/rolflobker/recall-for-linux

>>725286638
>>725286698
It's called a compatibility layer because it makes a fake drive (it's just a folder) with all the binaries you need to run .exe programs. Kinda like a virtual machine.

>>725287135
VM is an emulator though.

>>725286920
You're a stupid faggot you know that? You're just using enterprise management features as a cope because it lets you pretend Linux won't free you from slavery. You're a cuck that's been completely conditioned by the skinner box OS known as Windows. Please stop posting. Maybe start listening and learning.

>>725286920
>retaded
lul

>>725287226
Linux won't free you from slavery lmao. You still use Steam and buy games on steam.

>>725286924
Emulators are fine, it is weird that linux doesn't want to be seen as one as its usecase outside of server farms is literally being windows emulator. I would be first for linux not giving a fuck and hacking in implementations to let everything run on it regardless of legality.

>>725259452
>AAA games like expedition 33

What?

>>725287308
I don't. Again. Keep coping that MS is dicking your computer, but stop sharing your cuckold fetish here. It's disgusting and low quality posting.

>>725287396
Don't share your porn addiction and fetish here lmao.

>>725287309
>regardless of legality
I don't see what that has to do with anything, considering all emulation is entirely legal despite Nintendo's lawyers' autistic screeching, but okay.

>>725259032 (OP)
idk im running everything on fedora and it works

>>725287309
Windows is a Windows emulator if you're going to assert something this fucking stupid. wtf is with this thread?

>>725265237
Windows 11 is literally made by jeets you absolute subhuman

Why does the WINE shit make linux sissies lose their cool?

>>725287470
Only legal issues that could possibly exist are weird unreadable EULA slop for shit like vcruntime or whatever other DLLs redists you need to run something with Wine. Generally, redistributables are licensed as such, such that you're free to install and use it. Most wine prefix managers wouldn't dl and install shit otherwise.

I'm not on my PC enough to be emotionally invested in OS functionality. I literally only use it to play video games when I'm at home with nothing better to do.

>>725287617
>AI pic to call others jeets
GOOD-A MORNING, SIGNORE!

>>725287685
because calling wine an emulator is like calling a trans not heckin valid.

>>725287685
They think they're clever for having recursive acronyms. Always remember:
>WINE = WINdows Emulator
>GNU = Gay Nigger Utilities

>>725287714
Sure but there are console emulators that don't come with the BIOS too. Wine openly being considered an emulator wouldn't require that it comes with everything needed to make it work.

>>725287803
Calling wine an emulator is just demonstrating ignorance on how Linux works. That's why people try and correct such posters. It has nothing to do with whatever sexual fetishization you're obsessed with.

>>725288030
Nigga I'm not enrolled in your linux course, I don't care, it emulates it's an emulator. simple.

>>725287470
If legality wasn't a concern linux would bundle in proprietary codecs.

>linux is for trannies!
>...
>linux is broken and doesn't work!
>...
>wine is an emulator
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>725288132
I'm salivating to report wine repos that bundled proprietary codes

>>725288126
Windows emulates a My Computer despite actually being a This PC.

>>725288210
good goy

>>725288132
See >>725287906

>>725259032 (OP)
I checked proton yesterday and my entire steam library works except 2 multi-player slop games I don't even play anymore. It's not as bad as it used to be it seems.

>>725265401
It's available to buy on Steam for about 3-4 dollars, you know.

>>725288210
t. quadruple vaxxed

>>725287906
>>725288303
Sure, when will will photoshop and vegas emulation be done in linux then? I will be okay with downloading them from some shady private tracker too!

>>725288494
You're moving the goalposts to something I don't care about, so all I can say is "ok".

>>725265237
What a fucking embarassment. Indian idiot calling others Indians.

>>725287748
Sorry I thought you would like them in a more natural habitat, here's the developers

>>725259452
Well that explains it

>>725265401
That shit's available on GOG for like 99¢, my nigga.

>>725289609
Hellooo, Big Mamalah (on the far left)

>>725287171
How? You're not emulating Windows, you're just running it on a virtual drive instead of a physical one.

>>725265582
>white people
You mean jews?

>>725265401
>>725288374
>>725290636
Am I having a stroke? It looks like he's saying a game doesn't work on Linux and you guys are responding with "but you can buy it and it's cheap". Availability on Steam and GOG doesn't make it work, and by the way, the ProtonDB reports for the Steam version are a mix of "doesn't work" and "needs obscure tweaks".
I use Linux myself and I'm all for a bit of "works on my machine" banter but how the fuck are the Steam and GOG prices relevant?

>>725278478
There's a bit of a difference between your entire system being spookware, and the thing you're running on top of the system being potentially spookware, you stupid, little poof
Only thing you're lifting is burgers i reckon. People who are mentally lazy are often also physically lazy

You’re staying in X11, right, Anon?

I have scripts that use xdotool, so unless and until I can do the same things on Wayland, yes.
>use case for xdotool??
My scripts.

>>725259452
pretty sure no EA games work on linux due to their anticheat

>>725292740
pretty sure ydotool works just fine.
wayland is slowly but surely implementing the few missing features that power users whine about. GNOME is removing x11 in march and kde will follow suit, the future is now old man.

>>725292597
That would be silly

Bros, what is go to paint alternative for linooks at the moment?
I just want simple software to draw stick figures to shitpost.

>>725294872
Doesn't KDE or Gnome have one in their extras?

>>725295409
software isn't DE specific, you can grab nautilus on KDE just fine.
gimp is the go to for image editing, for drawing you'll want krita.

>>725294872
Just use GIMP. It might be a tad overkill for what you want but the more you learn its features even for tiny tasks, the better you get at everything, including life.

>>725294872
For me it's Kolourpaint

>>725294872
you can try gimp
as long as it's just sticks and you don't want to draw something strange and weird like a circle (lol why would you want that anyways)

>>725295653
Yeah, but KDE and Gnome both have "extras" packages that include junk like Windows default programs.