Thread 725261068

This is the first game in a long time that reminds me of how it feels to really love a game. Yes it looks pretty bad but beauty is skin deep. Fighting mons and collecting them is the best its ever been. If this had breeding it might be my favorite pokemon game since B/W. If anything. There is a lot of potential in this kind of game and Im genuinely excited for whatever comes after this.

I agree. It has plenty of obvious technical and design problems but it's actually fun.

>doesnt have breeding
So whats the fuckin point then? What am i gonna do to optimize my mons?

I don't understand why people cry about all the buildings looking the same, you never been into a real city before? Most buildings look the same and you can't or won't enter most of them due to business hours, construction, lack of interest, property damage, etc.

>>725261068 (OP)
>>725261143
>>725261218
>>725261245
>>725261381
go back to /vp/

>>725261068 (OP)
This is the best pokemon game since HG/SS.
It's fun.
It's also outdated garbage.

mods!

>>725261775
>>725261810

>>725261068 (OP)
In other news, poketards are delusional as usual.

>>725261775
The outdated-ness of it might be one of the reasons I enjoy it so much. It reminds me of some of the open world slop from the ps2 era. Really wish the game had mons to ride or even the bike though

>>725261068 (OP)
>>>/vp/

Digichads won.

>>725262440
>bike
Rollerbladebros...

>>725261068 (OP)
Yeah its very fun to play.

Tbh I kinda think the game looks pretty good despite the limitations. I like that the screen isn't slathered with loads of filters and blur effects to "make it look better" and is just crystal clear on Switch 2.

>>725261218
Mints are free to pickup and can be bought for cheap. Bottlecaps are decently common. EV drugs, berries, and feathers are also extremely common to find and are buyable.

>>725265243
Frankly everything that isn't the side of a building looks great. Every interior looks good, the wild areas looks good, the models for pokemon and humans are great. But the flat buildings ARE lame.

>>725265371
I'll take the flat buildings if it means there's no stutter or lag desu

>>725265306
>Bottlecaps are decently common
No. No they are not. You get 10 bottle caps from research level 36, 3 gold caps from level 48, 2 bottle caps from mission 96, 1 gold from mission 103, and any more have to come from random item drops in zone 20 or from random rewards from ticket battles in the Infinite Z-A Royale.

>>725265023
Fake

>>725266074
It's not.

>>725265023
I think there's something to be said about Pokemon using in-engine cutscenes in the games actual world. Compared to some pre-rendered video file to make Digimon look better than the game actually looks.

>>725261068 (OP)
Yeah I loved it as well. But after hour 20 I stopped.
>story mission
>fight 3 mega fags
>arena fights
>ranked battle
>story mission
>fight 3 mega fags
>arena battles
>ranked

Those mega battles are kind of lame and kill the pacing and its just too formulaic

>>725261068 (OP)
The realtime controls/positioning need a lot more work if they plan on using it further.
The final story boss area/fight sucked compared to Area Zero, spamming moves at stationary, typeless turrets bored the hell out of me.

Overall I liked it, the battle system is a step in the right direction, but it needs more work.

>>725261218
Everything you would do to breed in this game is doable with other methods now. Natures can be changed with mints and IVs can be maxed with bottle caps, as has been the case in the previous games. There aren't even fringe cases where you might want 0 IV like the other recent games (Trick Room, minimal confusion damage for non physical attackers) either because Trick Room doesn't exist and low speed is purely a negative thing, and confusion doesn't do self-damage anymore.

>>725261381
As someone who loves Z-A a lot, I do think the samey looking city is its biggest flaw. I think for an open world game you need some level of variance. Not everything has to be GTA San Andreas level of varied, but at the very least there should be some variety in architecture across districts to make them distinct. Vice City has a tiny map but it feels both big and fresh because it makes its districts visually distinct.

Lumiose absolutely suffers from the fact it's essentially a lot of the same building and a few parks, and that visual issue is only worsened by the fact most of the parks are surrounded by glowing green hologram fences too.

I think literally even just making the buildings in each district have slightly different coloured walls would have made it meaningfully better. As it is now EVERYWHERE looks the same.

>>725267110
Maybe I'm just a cityfag but I don't mind the grey buildings, could do with a few more models to differentiate them from each other but it's not a dealbreaker. What I do want though is more map variety than "ground" and "park" and "roof".

>>725269567
Maybe some variety
Like indoors

>>725269727
I'm playing on a switch 1 and the load time makes me not want to go indoors lmao. Something akin to the black city building or some kind of tower would be nice though.

>>725261068 (OP)
Me but with Scarlet/Violet

>>725266051
They changed the online rewards for PvP you get a shitload now from that

>>725266769
I'd wager part of why ZA is set in a city, rooftops, parks, buildings sewers etc. was to keep things simple and ensure as much of the game as possible had flat surfaces to battle on.

I could imagine the next Legends (Galar if the leaks are correct) will have more varied terrain. They probably didn't want to deal with their first attempt at a real-time battle system involve dealing with hills and constant uneven terrain that the monsters could clip into and fall through if something went wrong. Whereas the worst that can happen in ZA is a monster might get briefly caught on environment objects.

>>725272078
Wish granted, the next game will be set in a single open field

>>725266676
>Pokéfags are delusional.
Water is wet.

>another yawnfag shilling thread
go to hell fucking retard

>>725272953
Pokeslop lost. Digimon won. Palworld won.

>>725272953
It's funny that you don't see the same shilling threads for other awful games, like Veilguard or Concord.
The brand REALLY sustains the franchise now, huh?

>>725261068 (OP)
I played this pile of shit and it's good only when compared to the other 3d pokemon games. I have no idea what people find "fun" in catching the same shit and mashing buttons in the same battles over and over, the ugly setting is just the cherry on top.

>>725266676
What the fuck is this? Some chink mobile AI game?

>>725272953
>>725273148
>Believing Metashitic

I bet you're looking forward to The Game Awards you schmuck. Anyone who's actually played Legends ZA knows that it's a great game.

>>725265567

Yeah, given GF’s pretty terrible track record on performance I will gladly take low-poly buildings over constant frame drops, you stop noticing it after about 5 seconds anyway. Would it be “better” if they had ultra detailed buildings and good performance? Obviously it would be, but it also doesn’t really matter or affect the game experience in any meaningful way

>>725261068 (OP)
>Retards like this are the reason why Nintendo happily shits out more low effort slop for the zombie IP that is Pokemon
"People" like the OP don't deserve expendable income

>>725273256
So basically you only hate it because you've only ever played pokemon.

I'm honestly curious of Pokemon ZA because of the Japanese arts popping up on my feeder.
The sole Pokemon games I've played in my life were X on 3DS, Pearl on DS and the old Gameboy games when I was really little.
>>725272953
>Metacritic
I dunno why this is ever taken seriously

>>725261068 (OP)
>bad catching / spawn system
>half-baked combat system
>overemphasis on story instead of adventure
The game is fun when everything works, but it's really clunky despite how simplistic it is. Story is boring. WAY too much dialogue. Sometimes wild pokemon don't show up for no discernible reason (happened in Legends Arceus too). Catch rates are pretty shit even with the charms, and the rage mechanic adds more frustration to the catching process.

>asset flip
>not even 1/3rd the Pokémon of its (garbage) source material
Fuck off, shill

>>725261068 (OP)
Blatant shill post. This garbage game has no reason to exist when PLA already does, it's a complete downgrade
Unironically get cancer and die

>>725261068 (OP)
Great game.

>>725266676
>first battle in the game against a baby pokemon is reflective of the entire game

>>725273559

It’s honestly very fun with some rough edges, the changes they made to the combat feel like a proof of concept for a transition to a full real-time game but still work decently on their own.

>>725273740
Shame that the game is a literal 20 hour long tutorial. It only gets hard once you're forced to do double/triple mega battles with stupid ass AI partners
You're approaching endgame and you still are doing fucking shitty sidequests where all you do is fight against a shitmon. That webm reflects nearly the entire game

>>725273876
In other words, you barely made it past the half way point and think that's all of it because of a webm showing the early gameplay.

>>725273956
You absolute shitlord retarded nigger, I beat the fucking game. I mentioned the fucking double/triple mega battles that you do at the final fucking stretch of the game
Fucking faggot shill

>>725261068 (OP)
It’s a good game but another case of Nintendo carving out the postgame and selling it back to you.

The funniest thing to me is how much effort they actually put into "evolving" the series with Scarlet/Violet. Overhauling the world map, introducing new mechanics and gameplay, the way the story progresses and the sheer amount of storylines (for better or worse), and the amount of Pokémon and their new models, animations, etc...
And how it's all just complete dogshit. How the fuck can a company with so long a history and as many resources as they have just completely fuck up what is comparatively such simple, long-established concepts?

>>725261068 (OP)
>>725266676
>>725272953
Lmfao Pokefags are pathetic

>>725273956
find a fire and die in it, fren.

>>725272953
Holy shit it keeps falling, wasn't this shit at an 81, guess all those paid reviews ran out.

>>725273717
But enough about Digimon Story Time Stranger

>>725274047
Yep, you totally did all of that.
Good on you for getting filtered early, bro.

that'll be $30 plus tip you little shill pay piggie

>>725274287
Looks fun, already purchased it months ago. Cant' wait for november 10

>>725274287
>Pokefags will pay 100$ for this garbage

>>725274287
Kek, the dlc looks so fucking bad

>>725274434
They go over level 100 now?
That sold me on it.

>>725261218
There's nature mints, hypertraining/bottle caps for fixing IVs and an EV restore NPC that unlocks mid-game, on top of the usual EV boosting items.

>>725274517
>don't get any more moves for leveling past 100
>literally just number goes up
based autist

>>725274340
>>725274517
Buy an ad faggot shill

>>725274517
You have to be careful not to let them level up again or they go back down to 100 and lose stats.

>>725274517
Wow, pokefag standards are rock bottom if what sells them on overpriced DLC is extra tedious grinding in a game where being lvl 60 is enough to clear all content with ease.

>>725274770
I mean I also love Disgaea

>>725266051
I get plenty from playing online. Skill issue, I suppose.

>>725273876
I have over 35 hours and I'm rank C.

>>725275073
>openly admitting to being shit at a game for little kids

>>725261068 (OP)
Cool. I'm still going to play Palworld instead though.

>>725274434
>>725274287
they couldn't even be bothered to make another town or city, instead sell the same city but gray and no skybox

>>725274517
iirc the gameplay loop of the DLC involves going into hyper Lumiose to collect materials to make donuts which temporarily boost your level based on the kCal the donut provides so they're not "real" levels

>>725275073
I don't care speedrun tranny. I'm 60 hours into the game and haven't picked my starter yet. Learn to enjoy the game faggot

>>725274434
what in the absolute fuck.....

>>725275124
I haven't lost once to any of the npcs. I simply don't rush through games like you. I've been exploring, catching mons, collecting everything, doing sidequests, and playing online.

>>725274434
>black void sky box (emulator glitch)
:|

>black void sky box ($30 DLC)
:O

It's actually a really fun game and it's the first Pokemon game I've played since Sun and Moon destroyed my interest in the franchise

>>725275186
Good for you. Falseflagging really makes your argument stronger in the eyes of onlookers.

>>725275282
>being this butthurt
Maybe you should have axed your butt instead of your cock

>>725275276
It's incredibly cheap looking.
It's ugly in some spots
I feel terrible for supporting Game Freak's laziness and incompetence.
But it's fun.

>took 2 hours for the NDS retards to invade the thread and shit it up
You guys are slipping. Starting to get worn thin with all the threads about the Switch 2 breaking sales records?

>>725275343
... What?

>>725261068 (OP)
>>725275276
I'm going to assume that you retards didn't play Legends Arceus which was this game but good.

>>725275474
I didn't, no.

>>725275365
> It's incredibly cheap looking.
No shit. The budget is 10% of other games that are charging $60 and $70. The break even point is 200,000 sales. They made that back in preorders alone. GameFreak could charge $20 for this game and still make stupid profit.

>>725275474
I did, and got a good 80 hours out of it. Can you show me where you found realtime combat in Arceus?

>>725275474
i liked PLA but the combat is really stripped down it's good for different reasons

>>725261068 (OP)
>Fighting mons and collecting them is the best its ever been.
It's objectively worse than PLA, especially the catching mechanics.

>>725275130
Based and cute noodle

>>725275584
>Can you show me where you found realtime combat in Arceus?
You mean the worst fucking part of ZA? The shitty combat where my attacks miss because my faggot mon decided to walk towards a light post? The battle system where I can't use moves like drill run without having it get randomly canceled out by the shitty terrain? The shitty battle system where it feels like you're playing pokeshit rumble instead? The god awful battle system that's literally just dumbed down mainline thanks to the lack of abilities and actual decent move effects? The same exact dogshit battle system that Palworld has but that now pokefags are suddenly pretending that it's good after shitting on it for the past 2 years?

PLA is ZA but better. Both games have different garbage battle systems, but at least PA has fucking gyro aiming when you're throwing balls, mounts, actually interesting sidequests that isn't just uhhhhh battle me so i can show you this cool ass move/item/type oh no you defeated me before i could even show you said mechanic here's your leftovers/tm/shit and a region that isn't just a fucking copy pasted town

>>725275748
PLA combat system is so simplified it doesn't even have leech seed or screens and bulk up and calm mind have the exact same effect, saying it has good combat is pure delusion

>>725275764
Oh no no no no

>>725275936
>pokeshills are now shitting on PLA's battle system after spending months stating how deep the agile/strong system was and the new revamped status ailments
Name a more dishonest fanbase. You literally can't.

>>725276026
>after spending months stating how deep the agile/strong system was and the new revamped status ailments
Nobody said this almost everyone agreed it was oversimplified, just a lot of Pokemon players don't care about combat and you also had the Smogon retards begging for frostbite

>>725275891
So you're shit at the game. Nice. Cry harder, or get good.

>>725266051
>random rewards from ticket battles in the Infinite Z-A Royale.
I hate how most of the time you only get big nuggets, crappy evoluvtion items or vitamins.

>>725276137
lol

>just a lot of Pokemon players don't care about combat
Well, they're suddenly shilling ZA's battle system pretty hard now!

>>725276196
>shit at the game
?????????????????????????????????????????????
Getting filtered by shitty game design is being shitty at the game? Don't worry, I was smart enough to say fuck it and change my moves so that I don't fucked by the dogshit battle system. Now I am sitting behind lamp posts using thunder while the enemy AI is the one getting their attacks canceled by the terrain

I had fun playing it

Both PLA and ZA are putrid garbage and i felt ripped off while playing them even though i got them for free.

>>725275276
>since Sun and Moon destroyed my interest in the franchise
It's funny how common this sentiment is kek. I got back into the series with SV myself after seeing the leaks spammed all over /v/.
And no it's not worth playing for the gameplay, I did it for the characters and did the first half of the game out of order so I could at least feel challenged.

>>725276297
>gets cucked by his own shit positioning
>cries like a child on a chinese basket weaving forum
You played bad and got mad. I understood it the firat several times, you can leave now, shitter. Go use thunder online and see how well your miss fodder works.

>>725276474
>guys, I PIRATED the games!
>praise me, notice me, I pirated the games!
>I really stuck it to [insert company here], that'll show them!
>uh, but piracy doesn't affect sales... BUT I GOT EM GOOD!
>I'M A PIRATE, PLEASE GIVE ME ATTENTION
Here's that (You) you've been looking for.

>>725276778
>suddenly online play out of fucking nowhere
You lost the argument, we're talking about completely different things here. Imagine seeing someone complain that the AI is shit and you immediately go MUH ONLINE

>>725276903
>pokeshill thread
>someone gets blatantly mad at the word "piracy"
Every time

I only played PLA because had naked dawn mod. If wasn't for that mod it probably would ranked in worst game I've ever played. But damn that modder made her cunny cute.

>>725272953
It will reach 76 soon, it isn't?

>>725276959
>>725276987
>>725277018
We don't care PC vegans

>>725275143
this sounds like such a shit gameplay loop, totally worth the 30 dollaroos

>>725277018
hope it reaches 75, shit should be in the piss yellow

>>725261068 (OP)
Go back to your containment board and stay there. There's a reason why it exists.
>>>/vp/

>>725266535
wtf are you talking about? Pokemon looks bad in-game and during cutscenes, what's your point here?

ZA is a faiure

>collecting them is the best its ever been
You fucking liar throwing the ball doesn't even feel as good as the previous Legends game and the pokemon themselves are confined to designated shitting streets instead of being out in the wilderness

>>725279938
>throwing the ball doesn't even feel as good as the previous Legends game
This on top of the wild areas being too small to properly sneak around.

>>725266535
>Pokefag's standards are so low that they think that time stranger's in engine cutscenes were prerendered

Honestly the best compliment you could give to time strangers visuals. Protip, you can tell it's not prerendered because it transitions into the boss battle WITHOUT loading. The actual prerendered cutscenes are the shadow puppet scenes.

https://youtu.be/PYN5mGTnMIg?si=CAsHm3AGl9XYUdVH

>>725279870
OOF

>>725279870
I like meganium but that shit just looks retarded and i wish i didn't know it existed

>>725280272
Kino AF

>>725261068 (OP)
shills fuck off

>>725279870
good

>>725261381
If we're going to be in a city with very sparsely placed interiors there has got to be more to the city itself that differentiates each neighborhood.
Unique landmarks, murals, graffiti. Even in your pic there are a dozen or more skyscrapers that you could use to tell your position from the ground if you knew the city well enough.
Lumiose only has the tower in the center, which is useless because the city is a big fucking circle. It looks the same wherever you are.

>>725281770
I feel like every Pokemon game is judged as if it’s supposed to be an exploration survival game when they obviously don’t want to be that, Az does have landmarks they just don’t matter because you fast travel most of the time