Thread 725318343

release it

>>725318343 (OP)
nexon please brother I need this shit

>>725318343 (OP)
Best I can do is a nondescript "sometime early next year" for a closed beta test that might not even actually be a beta and "closed" might just mean "only people who went to Maplecon can play"

there is no way it takes this long to release this shit
there was 14 year olds making maplestory private servers for years

>>725318343 (OP)
lol no

>>725320239
haha what if they actually just surprise shadow dropped it when everyone was expecting it to be a beta haha wouldn't that be funny haha yeah? right?

>>725320425
they remade the whole game, they're not just using some older version

>Could have released it Nov or Dec this year
>Would have been able to experience Happyville at peak playercount with most people taking the week off work for the holidays
So close to having a comfy Christmas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzzDrEuFpnE

What's your favorite mid-2000s anime-inspired thing that doesn't get talked about enough on 4chan? For me, it's Kappa Mikey.

>>725322976
>>Could have released it Nov or Dec this year
Honestly probably not if they aren't even willing to give a release date for a closed beta. This is probably pretty far out from a release, I'd say 6-7 months at least. "We could release now but we shouldn't" is something you'd say internally to your bosses or something to tell them that you have a mostly stable build but realistically releasing in that state would make the company look bad. Pretty retarded of that guy to say something like that to a crowd on a livestream.

>>725320479
>so its ready?
>yes
>can we play it?
>no

>half a year minimum until beta
fucking kill me

>>725326327
CLOSED beta at that, and most of the slots were already given to the people who went to maplecon

>>725318343 (OP)
It'll fail. There's far better grindy games now.

>>725318343 (OP)
Too busy working on idle mobileslop, please understand

I don't want to wait another 6 months to play...

>>725327108
The closed beta isn't half a year away, no way "early 2026" could possibly mean May or later. The closed beta is probably March at the latest. Open beta could conceivably be half a year away though.

I’m finna play archer. I hope I still have to buy arrows

i cant wait for this game to kill numaple like osrs did with rs3

>>725323392
This was a fun show

Are they making oldschool maplestory?

It's stupid to rush a launch, the launch is when you get the most players, if it's not good, they'll just fuck off and not come back.

>>725328285
yes but it's far from being released

Yes, I do the remember the songs you're about to post.

>>725328285
they're remaking oldschool maplestory. classes are only up to 2nd job right now, but there's been some pretty significant changes from base. Each weapon type has is own unique upside, which hopefully means they're pushing for each of 10 classes to have an actual semblance of identity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M0oz7bmYf0

You WILL play the closed beta and get newest CBT gear, right?

>>725320425
This isn't just a 1:1 port of an old version. What they showed at MapleCon is essentially a faithful remake, and unlike the 14 year old PS owner Nexon is a business and is thus being held to a specific standard. Inkwell even said the game is basically ready but he wants it to be even better hence why it's taking a bit longer.

>>725333528
If they fucking let me in. I'm probably gonna be skipped over because I made a new Nexon account just for this a few months ago.

Release what?

Now I don't play Big Shroom but I do know that in existence right now are:

Maplestory
Maplestory M
Maplestory Idle
Maplestory Worlds

And you people need another one?

>>725333528
I have never even been accepted into a closed beta, and it's not going to change now.

>>725334984
>Maplestory
Hasn't been good in over a decade.
>Maplestory M
Trash.
>Maplestory Idle
IdleOn already exists.
>Maplestory Worlds
Glorified fangames.

>>725333528
Wish I could, but we already know Nexon is going to be hyper selective on who gets in. And by that I mean only the high level whales are getting in.

>>725335346
idk seems pretty choosybeggar to me

>>725335672
None of what you named is Classic. All of them besides Worlds is based on Modern MS, and Worlds is jank as fuck.

>>725318343 (OP)
I wish it released without balance changes and then they could change whatever they want after I quit.

Which way, azn man?

>bishopstory
ALWAYS *summons a doe*

>>725337006
Bowmaster, my one and only.

>>725337006
>azn
>anything but night lord
>4-6 x's in ign minimum
>edgy as fuck but has a larger circle of ingame friends than you know irl

>>725337006
i'm latinx doe

>>725333528
I applied to the California playtest so hopefully they invite those that didn't get accepted as a pity prize

>>725337006
never played archer maybe now's the time

>>725333528
of course

I miss that magical feeling I had as a kid, sneaking onto the family PC at 3AM to play maplestory, I wasn't scared though cause my haunted house full of ghosts would keep me company and mess with my TV that I'd turn out and use as a night light.

>>725333528
man I love CBT

>>725338474
my dad would wake up at 2 AM to turn off the internet and yell at me to go sleep

>>725337006
tossup between page or bowman

it'll probably make a ton of magician players butthurt but i really do hope they address how the game will eventually become magestory with their map attacks constantly farming at 4th job
sure they're on a short cd, but other jobs barely get the ability to hit 6 mobs at once

>>725340524
aoe skills are already nerfed to hit 4 mobs max

>>725340524
but other jobs barely get the ability to hit 6 mobs at once
don't worry, they already addressed this by nerfing arrow bomb

>>725320425
As others have mentioned, Nexon has decided to rewrite the entire code for Maplestory Classic. This is a GOOD thing, as Maplestory's code was held together with prayer and cum.
But moreso, they're developing brand-new areas too which hopefully aren't completely fucked for balancing.

>>725325341
What's funny is that the guy who said it is the director for GMS and is the reason Maplestory Classic is even happening.

>>725340598
you're kidding what would be the point of making a mage then??
anyway i saw some people here yesterday talk about making your own private server think i'm gonna set that up to scratch the itch

>>725340809
>what would be the point of making a mage then??
Thinking mages are cool.

>>725340809
>complain about magestory
>complain that it won't be magestory
kek

>>725340746
He's alright in my books for that but they should have probably gotten someone who's more fluent to do a public presentation.

>>725340648
I still believe they massively increased arrow bomb's hitbox like they did savage blow

>>725340598
>aoe skills are already nerfed to hit 4 mobs max
Slash Blast still hits 6. The nerf targeted Archers and Magicians specifically.

>>725337006
I wanted to be a Spearman, but after seeing the HB nerf I'll probably go Fighter. Or Page if Togain makes a Paladin video before Classic.

>>725340993
Damn, warriors are absolutely busted especially with their new accuracy rework.

>>725340974
Didn't Savage Blow already have a fairly large hitbox?

I'm thinking axe fighter for the bleed or crossbowman for the ignore defense. xbow is probably more contrarian

>>725341101
>there's a chance that classic maplestory turns the old game from magestory to warriorstory
what a timeline we're in

>>725340809
>you're kidding what would be the point of making a mage then??
imagine how dits feel

no cool move beyond SB

Are they keeping hp washing as is?

>>725341180
i don't know how enemy defence formulas work in the old game work but if its anything like how IED is necessary for numaple, having any of it where other classes dont sounds like a huge boon

>>725340953
>>725341241
NOOOOOO DON'T DRAG ME DOWN WITH THE REST OF YOU DIRT BEASTS

>>725341241
deserved really

>>725333528
>>725338448
>>725338542
kek, this hat had more of a lasting legacy than MS2 itself ever did

>>725341210
Classic was always Warriorstory. Heroes are the ones that could solo bosses, and no other class could survive bosses without HB. Bishops were literal wage slaves while Warriors were the protagonists.

>>725341335
HP washing is implied to be gone. Nemi namedropped it at MapleCon and knew it was a problem.

>>725341335
No.

>HB no longer gives max mana
i mean it makes sense with the skills name, but i still have to ask why

>>725341436
Have archers ever had their time in the spotlight? Other than when 4th job came out and Hurricane turned Bowmasters into living turrets, I can't remember a time in old Maple when archers had any kind of crown.

>>725340993
Oh shit, I'm in a timeline where 2nd job warriors aren't a joke.
Praise the lord.

>>725341560
>Have archers ever had their time in the spotlight?
Literally never. Nobody even cared about Hurricane because they were just SE bots for the rest of the classes (especially Night Lords).
Archer was always the weirdo of the four.

>male, check
>fighter, check
>spec to paladin down the road, check
game time

>>725341593
I'm excited for how they fare in 2nd job now considering that was always their weak point.

>>725341631
You're right, it was Sharp Eyes that they were known for, and even that was kind of just there. Just recruit another Night Lord to the party instead and it'd probably be way better.
Even their Ultimate Explorer skill was fucking asscheeks compared to other classes'.

is this going to have the same slow xp rates? is it nexon sanctioned or some private server thing? and what about p2w elements?

>>725341738
I and my grades in middle school suffered 2nd job to make it to DK.
Any kind of buff feels like a kind of fucked up justice.

>>725341790
Ironically, NL is highly dependent on SE purely to not get out-dicked by Corsairs.

>>725340993
>Nerf archer
>When they can shoot at close range instead of smashing with their bow
You mean they nerf thief.

>>725341946
I was talking about the AoEs specifically.

>>725341852
>is this going to have the same slow xp rates?
Yes, but from the test footage a lot of values have been tweaked and it seems to put more focus on party play, so it likely won't be as slow overall as it was in the past.
>is it nexon sanctioned or some private server thing?
It's official.
>and what about p2w elements?
It's Nexon. What do you expect? But given this is Classic, worst they can do is 2x EXP coupons.

>>725342086
>It's Nexon. What do you expect?
NTA but this is a tricky question because Reboot does not have any p2w elements and that's where the overwhelming majority of players play on GMS.
Tons of pay to make faster, but it's like paying to complete dailies which take like 15 minutes to do

>>725341631
>Archer was always the weirdo of the four
And then within Archers, Xbows were the super weirdos compared to Bowmasters. It's sad because Xbow is one of the funnest classes in Classic Maple.

>>725341210
Say what now? I can't think of a single Korean grindfest where mages weren't set on fire and thrown into the cuckshed the instant you went somewhat north of mid-game. It's always the same horseshit where you get to AoE and level faster, but then by the time you reach the content that matters most even the priest has better kill potential.

>>725342182
Inkwell has been specifically trying to steer GMS away from p2w, but at the end of the day he still answers to his Korean overlords.

>>725342208
Marksman were notable for, prior to Potentials being added, being the only class in the game to hit the damage cap. And pretty effortlessly too.
But, again, nobody cared because stfu and se me

>retards want to grind a month for 3 levels
have fun

>>725342182
>reboot does not have any p2w elements
>what are vac pets
>what are battle pass equivalents
>what are sol erda boosters
>what is soon to be genesis weapon pass
game still has p2w, even if the value is so shit it's not worth paying for any of the above

>>725342395
>spending a month gaining levels with my guild of bros
I WILL have fun and you WILL seethe about it.

>>725342395
Thanks, I will.

>>725342395
I will, thank you.

>>725342395
thank goodness
unlike that ass game called modern maplestory where a month of a grind only gets you a few %
and i'll be in a better game to boot without those gay ass potentials

>>725337006
You know some chucklefucks are going to go permabeginner too.

>>725342395
I will. unironically.

>>725342424
>>what are vac pets
Not necessary. Especially with how many vac pets they give out for events and training being brain-dead easy for every class
>>what are battle pass equivalents
I honestly forgot about these because it's like $15 for the most pointless shit. It doesn't even feel like a p2w element because you aren't even winning. Just donating cash by that point.
>>what are sol erda boosters
Not necessary either. $30 for 220 fragments spread out over the course of 30 days (4 frags a day + 24 frags every sixth day) is on the same level as the battle pass equivalents. Especially for Reboot, where you can't even trade fragments between characters
>>what is soon to be genesis weapon pass
The only thing that could justifiably be p2w since you're actually winning in the end. Liberating 3x faster than everybody else AND being able to party up to 6 players (all with their genesis passes) is pretty fucking annoying. But that said, while I agree it's p2w, I don't really care about it in the end since libbing always felt like an end-goal and everything after that is post-game, so paying just to stop playing always felt counter-intuitive.

I wonder if the game will be easier now that I know what I'm doing and there are so many more guides

>>725342738
>YOU MUST BE A MODERN MAPLESTORY PLAYER
I don't play koreanslop anymore because I grew up and I'm not retarded.

>>725344172
>I grew up and I'm not retarded.
Debatable.

sequel when

what's the point of a classic maplestory if it's going to be korean grind shit?

>>725344754
Classic maplestory isn't classic unless there's a realistic risk of someone dying of dehydration in some godforsaken korean internet cafe.
Anything less is an inauthentic experience.

>>725343764
Considering they're gonna rebalance it, a lot of that information is probably going to be outdated. Good farm spots, best classes, strongest builds and the order of skills you pick are all gonna be different. That being said, yeah, if you boot up a private server and follow a basic leveling guide you'd be surprised how much faster you hit major level milestones that felt like months-long journeys back in the day.

>>725345010
Stuff like pig beach is probably going to be unplayable at launch.
Doesn't matter if the info's out there if a huge chunk of people coming back are going to beeline to the OG leveling spots.

>>725345010
what's the game going to look like X months or a year after launch?

>>725345096
I'm okay with that. We can hit the old stomping grounds, but ideally it wouldn't still be the most efficient choice. Open beta in particular is going to be such a gold rush of people going to HHG1, Slime Tree, etc. Pure sovl

>>725345293
cc pls

maple suh tory

>>725342458
>guild of bros
I don't think I could live in a normie guild anymore.
But I've been on /vg/, I am afraid of the sheer concentration of mental illness that would amass within a 4chan guild.

w-when are we going home bros?...

>>725345745
home is already here

do people not realize you can play maplestory today?

>>725346007
none of the things currently available are real maplestory
not artale not worlds not any private server not reboot or interactive or heroic or whatever the fuck retards call their garbage

>>725345674
i think the only time i've had a pleasant time playing with /vg/ or /v/ was playing diablo II hardcore characters over lan/hamachi
we were just a bunch of normal dudes trying to beat a challenge
this was like 12-15 years ago though and the site, or more generally the internet as a whole, was different

>>725345745
don't worry nora, I got 100 charms of the undead for you.

for me, it's Shumi
i just luv my gyarus

>>725346639
for me, it's Spiegelmann

>>725346639
>that one pixel

Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxsoJDWCwU

>>725320425
>there was 14 year olds making maplestory private servers for years
If you had any clue whatsoever, you would understand that 14 year olds didn't actually do any of the hard work. All that was done by the original OdinMS developers, and all subsequent private servers were originally derived from the OdinMS source (which contained several issues).

The official Maplestory Classic World is obviously not based on the OdinMS Java source, so it would be incredibly stupid to think they can just seamlessly emulate exactly what your 14 year olds on ragezone were doing.

>>725344172
You post on 4chan you sad, laughable little idiot. You are in no position to look down on others for playing a game.

>>725347147
>Odin got BTFO by legal for actually maintaining a good copy of MS
Takes me back. I mean, MS itself was still decent back then but not being owned by Nexon made them the clear best choice.

>>725348026
please no...

>>725340692
not exactly
it seems to be nu-maple codebase with a heavy amount of changes to get it to feel like oldschool
this is the correct approach, trying to remake or 'git checkout 0.62' just leads to feeling like a jackass when you have to re-derive the solutions to problems you fixed 20 years ago
also, it's way easier to dev content, new and old, since you have nice scripting pipelines (if it can run baldrix, recreating zak is easy)

>>725346780
I hope this dipshit never shows up in Classic.

>>725348186
One of the few changes I like made in modern MS is that it made bosses more interactive. You had to physically dodge attacks and too many mistakes lead to a death. I don't know how they'd be able to recreate such gameplay without giving everyone tons of mobility like modern classes do or mandate Haste in every expedition party. It'd be nice if they could find a way to reach a middle ground between modern and classic boss design because holding your Attack button for 40 minutes tanking every hit with the occasional rebuff isn't good or fun boss design.

>>725348564
I think last I played was around the 10th anniversary, and I vaguely remember bosses starting to deal %-based damage. Magnus in particular was fucking annoying because some orbs would always insta-kill. It felt more like you couldn't fuck up once or you'd fucking die, and it removed the specialty warriors (and magicians) used to have with their bulk.

love me some maplestory but this game was a chatroom more than a video game. there will not be henehoes shooting the shit 24/7 like there used to be.

What do you guys think of KPQ in Classic World?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lg4GaB3Lig

>>725349145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMCaGr7bEA8

>>725348940
If an attack doesn't kill you, it may as well not have happened in the first place because there's no penalty to potion spam. So what if you got 1/1'd? One elixir and you're back in the game. If you have a Priest/Bishop, you're back to full at no cost. It's why Seduce was such a huge fucking deal that had to be meticulously planned around for HT/PB runs, because Seduce disabled potion use. Modern MS' answer to this was instakill attacks.

>>725349235
>only one tranny
Genuinely surprised.

>>725348026
If I see gachapon as an NPC I'm uninstalling.

me from 2007 circa level 40

What did you guys think of Commerci? Was it a good area? Should it become a part of Classic World at some point?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW1J8XYU3t0

>>725349849
>wooden shield instead of wristguard
Mega sovl

>>725349849
>no panlid
ngmi

>>725349849
Panlid-less peasant.

>>725334051
>>725320425
is there any specifics as to what exactly that even means? like how would that change the core gameplay? subtle things like hit detection? I just hope the classes and skills remain faithful. old maplestory had more methodical gameplay, warriors were slow as shit but great at mobbing, thieves had mobility and singlet target attacks, mages had teleport. I do not want to see bullshit like everyone having flash jump and everyone having one braindead skill that hits 6 enemies 4 times or some shit.

>>725349849
I never trusted people who had this face, they seemed like asshole scammers. were you an asshole scammer? I'd defame you probably.

>remember my maple "gf" asked for my password
>immediately got logged out, and someone changed my pin
>took 3 months for nexon to finally respond to my appeals and reset my pin so I can have my account back
>it took me years to realize I wasn't coincidentally "hacked" right after I gave my account info away
I was a fucking dumb as hell 15 year old

>>725350984
We already saw all the 1st and 2nd job skill changes. Everything is fine so far and shows promise.

>>725349731
I always called this NPC Justin Timberlake. Never understood wtf he was there for.

>>725349965
Why you asking so many questions in these threads brother? Are you Inkwell? Hurry up and just let us play at least a closed beta so we can give proper feedback you son of a bitch. Also buff I/L

>>725335847
So If I made a Maplestory™ account right now I'd just have a shit time? Always been curious about it.

>>725350984
imo they seem to be aiming for the opposite of homogenization by adding more unique stuff that gives certain classes even more of a unique identity. that's just what we've seen so far, it's nexon so they could just fumble completely as time goes on but they seem to be respecting that the old classes all felt like their own thing and doubling down on that philosophy

>>725351607
If you like a ton of (mostly) semi-RNG progression systems, grinding for stuff in a modernish treadmill game you'll probably be able to enjoy modern maple for a few months at least

>>725351071
which face did you pick? the ugly ass bushy brows face or the diagnosed autistic face
that face in the pic is the only good default face

>>725345812
Is this new? I miss Ragnarok Poring Idle game so much from 2016 I loved that game

>>725351549
Idiot.

>>725352229
My wife.

>>725351259
>>725351671
Just looked up a video of someone playing it at the event. The skills look very faithful but they did make a lot of tweaks to skills which I actually like, and removed some useless passives with new ones. I think this is the best outcome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgjypWiAop0

>>725352229
I'm going to bust so hard in her mouth

>>725352536
I'm liking the idea they have with some skill changes. Final attack still seems to be in a rather awkward spot, but changing the masteries for warrior already seems cool. I think the changes to like HB, assassins and clerics is also justified. It's really hard to say at this point as they probably changed base stats of monsters, possibly the critical system or atleast made it much more simple to understand and accuracy might have been changed aswell. This means some of the changes might not be as massive as some believe and even then 3rd job and 4th job could bring some classes right back from "nerfs" or make other non-existing classes actually be played instead of being a rare sight where you get filmed since no one has ever seen this class at this level.

>>725318343 (OP)
Why would any of you be excited at all from this garbage company? Maybe it will be fun at first sure, but it's 100% gonna turn into a pay2win type of game again just like regular maplestory, it's over guys just move on.

>>725353287
Don't care idiot. Still playing.
You post on 4chan so you have no right to criticize anyone over how they spend their time.

>>725353287
Without potentials or white scrolls, paying only gets you so far in early Maplestory. You'll get high level equip a little earlier and some fancy chairs, but that's about it.

>>725353287
i will play the shitty grinding game
i WILL sit in a party waiting for my MP to recover
I WILL USE THIS AS AN EXCUSE TO TALK TO RANDOM RETARDS

so i can have 2 mules
assuming i plan on maining crossbowman, i'm assuming fighter mule and haste mule?
or maybe haste mule, bless mule?

>>725354832
Can you do that in current MS? Because Classic is being built off the foundation of current MS.

>>725355001
by 2 mules i mean i have two additional devices i can use to play alongside with my main device
but yeah, i believe you can have multiple accounts playing in the same room without getting banned. though with current MS, since a lot of the mobs are instanced in later levels and there isn't any party-play maps it makes them a bit more of a waste of time

>>725354832
Haste was shown to be changed from 40 speed and 20 jump to 30 speed and 10 jump. It seems to be more of a nice buff to have, but worth a mule? I'd say absolutely not.
Rage went from 12 wep att to 35 with the -35 wep def debuff. Rage seems to be rather good, however we do not know if it as strong as it seems. If they changed damage calculations it could be good, but not as good as +35 wep att sounds. Has potential to be a good damage mule if it works similar to the damage system we had.
Bless is +20 accuracy and +20 avoidability with HP recovery from items/skills increased by 10%.
It seems to be a nice buff, but nothing mandatory tier. Works alright for all the classes due to warriors wanting accuracy most likely, but offering avoidability is nice for thieves and archers. HP recovery in general is just saving a little bit on potion costs.
To me it it is looking like they are trying to counter the broken buff values for a party which directly also affects the idea and need of mules which is a good change. It is left to see how the mandatory buff which is Holy Symbol is adjusted. It is most definitely getting nerfed, but no matter how little it offers it always has potential to be a mule skill sadly. Most likely releasing with 2nd job only so this isn't a thing for now outside of banking on future HS mule untill 3rd job drops, which again I do believe HS will not be removed from the game as much as I would like to have that happen.

>>725355338
If HS does get nerfed into the ground or removed outright, we'll get to have a good laugh at all the retards who inevitably built a level 80 Cleric purely to be an HS mule.

>>725318343 (OP)
Sorry MMOs are a dead genre

>>725355338
>>725355458
ironically i would rather main cleric over crossbowman, but given how they are fixing the classes, i wanted to see if crossbowmen would get the better fixes in general to make them a good class in 3rd / 4th. which if they don't i'm just going to main page
cleric seems to got snipped pretty hard, and due to it i can see them also giving CD to genesis (which is my main reason to play cleric outside of being a support class on my end), so i dropped that idea.

>>725355624
From what is shown, Crossbow Mastery gives them the chance to ignore enemy Defense. We don't know how significant this is yet (Defense was worthless pre big bang), but it's pretty unique.

>>725355585
Shut up Wonky nobody cares about OPQ.

>>725355458
I just do not understand why people are insisting HS is "class identity" and refuse to even think how they could give Bishops other good buffs instead of a buff that is the best skill in a game where the core gameplay loop revolves around very slow leveling. Even giving something like +25att +25matt +5% wep def +5% mag def that stacks with other damage buffs/items would already be a nice buff. Broken or massive? Not really, but it doesn't have to be busted or otherwise the class is dead and it's over since it's not broken anymore nobody wants them in party. It's like there is no ground between having busted skills or not having any instead of adjusting the numbers or adding new to create a more balanced, but still a desirable good buff for the party.
>>725355624
It is going to be hard to say how 3rd job and 4th job are going to look like and with the bold changes shown you might end up leveling a class to like 103 and then 4th job eventually hits and you get the short stick. Brutal to see after the time you spent to be the worst, but it is what it is. Can't say how it's going to be and what will happen so you just have to accept that "risk".
Anon already pointed out the ignore def which has potential as I believe they did touch numbers for monsters, but can't say how much. Being a percentage skill means that future-wise it has potential to be very strong as for some maps/bosses with high wep def it would be a passive percentage damage buff which is rather huge instead of flat numbers.
I do think al the mages should get a CD on ultimates as it's silly having a mage sit in the middle of the map holding down ult key and leveling faster than anyone can even dream of.
Page also has -20% wep def threaten which you can spam and it got changed to always hit. If the numbers are changed this could be a really good debuff and combos really well with other wep att classes to just hit harder 100% of the time.

>>725355458
The problem is that HS is the only worthwhile thing cleric contributes. They gutted heal so the DPS potential against undead has dropped, I'd bet money ults will get nuked into the fucking ground. What else is a cleric doing for a grinding party? Why even bring a cleric compared to literally anything else? Bless????????
Since this isn't a REAL MS classic server but MS+ it's entirely possible they may include QoL like teleport rocks. And then priest really would offer nothing of value.

>>725355731
>Defense was worthless pre big bang
there's a reason why they didn't allow page debuff on bosses from back then, it's a significant power scale and private servers don't even know how to balance Threaten for bosses without crippling the skill kek

>>725337006
They could make a Super beginner class, its the perfect time for it. but yeah im making an Axe fighter because of the bleed mechanic

>they nerfed clerics into the ground
what's going to be THE meta job for comfy training now?

>>725356932
probably spearman

>>725348026
potentials were fine since you had to hunt for them yourself. Cubes however just killed the game

>>725356546
We do not know how much have they changed behind the scenes. How much are they going to change in 3rd and 4th job. They could change a ton of things that could affect party play, but from what I've seen people are really focused on bringing back the HS coupon on a ladder or making them leech bots as otherwise they are useless.
From what've seen they seem to understand to some extent how certain buffs and roles shouldn't be on the extreme ends. Making single target class be more or less just bad at grinding/farming, but broken at bossing. Vice versa with mobbers who are useless at bosses. They can absolutely change this so mages can still be the best a grinding/farming, but not utterly useless at bossing to the point that content isn't even available for them outside of having your friends take pity on you and carry your non-existant damage at the boss. Giving bishops desirable and good buffs on top of still being able to grind, but also atleast do some damage at bosses would atleast make it so they aren't "what buff do you bring to even consider you".
I just do not understand why people are insisting on bringing back the extreme "balance" where this class does this and sucks ass at everything else since that is somehow class identity and good balance in general. You don't have to make everyone have flash jump and be good at mobbing/single target, but you can most definitely make it so you can do okay damage at single target and have good mobbing while another more single target oriented class can deal good dps, but not absolutely miserably slow at grinding.
>>725356932
Closed testing should show more and it's hard to say since they likely adjusted flat experience gain from monsters. New maps and those map layouts could offer good spots for exp/h or meso/h. Some classes could potentially have safe spots to train and farm for almost free cost. There will always be meta and tiers for classes, but without more information it's hard to say.

>>725357050
>They could change a ton of things
They could just as easily change none of them. It's too easy to argue either side, which is why we can only argue based on what we do know the game to have been like in the past.
As for "HS bots" they can put stringent anti-AFK timers in grind maps specifically, or other methods that would greatly inconvenience people who are just looking to use priest alts to farm. I'd prefer that reality to the one where they nerf HS.
>I just do not understand why people are insisting on bringing back the extreme "balance" where this class does this and sucks ass at everything else since that is somehow class identity and good balance in general
Personally speaking, I've seen the opposite in games like XIV. Games where every class performs the same roles, where there are no extremes, and everything feels the same. I would prefer having classes with real drawbacks, like being weak at multi-target attacks but amazing at single-target. It makes them unique, and quite frankly I don't trust any modern attempt to change things for the sake of making it "new" or "fresh". The game is Maplestory CLASSIC, if you change too much you risk alienating the old players you worked so hard to entice in.

>"maplestory? Yea I used to play that game it was my favorite"
>never reached 2nd job
>stayed in henesys

>>725357376
Fair enough and I am honestly trying to be optimistic about the changes, but it could very well be just like how it was in the past since that is what they started with. I do think better afk countermeasures and leeching in general would be nice as I hate the concept of not playing the game or throwing money to stay "relevant" as one would think it's better to punish players who actually play the game since people with limited time or just being lazy should be on the same level for some odd reason.
I did play ffxiv aswell and do agree it showcased the issue of trying to balance classes to have them be capable of doing all content without big drawbacks. Balance is always going to be very hard and there is never perfection or honestly reaching even close to that is wishful thinking. I personally just find the concept and thoughts of bringing five NLs with some buff bitches for them and then every map worth grinding/farming you have mages spamming ults. While they already said it is going to be more of a remake and to me it's looking to be a custom "private server" experience with the changes, it definitely has it's positives and negatives it can bring.
I am very biased as I genuinely think the idea of having the highest level people be like 70% of mages and for bossing you don't even consider mages or anyone who doesn't bring enough dps. As you can always just take a single target class that out damages them to the point you wouldn't even notice if a mage was there outside of bringing a buff. They will have to deviate from the 1:1 scenario as bringing the classic experience will not necessarily work due to most people not getting past like level 60 without bringing absurd exp rates and double exp coupons and in general much faster leveling and progression.
Your point of having genuine drawbacks is ultimately better as balancing everyone to not just kind of suck ass in certain content brings the hard balance issue of trying to make that not happen.

>2+ hour horntail fights
cant wait

>>725357729
Me except I made it to cleric but there were no classes beyond Priest yet just an infinite grind in Orbis/El Nath and I got burnt out healing zombie mushrooms for a couple months straight

>>725357865
Unless skill changes are reverted, Clerics are fundamentally dead

>>725351671
>they seem to be aiming for the opposite of homogenization by adding more unique stuff that gives certain classes even more of a unique identity
this is what i always wanted in an og maple server or a og maple remake. i love the old gameplay style and modest skill effects and class capabilities so much. that's maplestory to me. not the grind or the gear or rng or whatever. simple maple pixel gameplay

>>725358078
reverted to what you idiot? the 2007 days? classic world isn't based on vanilla 2007 maplestory you mong it's being redesigned from scratch. there are no "nerfs" or "buffs", the release will be the basis for all future changes.

Hopefully they keep the hair/eyes and NX options oldschool.
Playing oldschool private servers and seeing everyone looking like a 2020+ character is aids.

reminder that bowser was in maplestory

>>725318343 (OP)
Why can DW wield 2H sword even in Reggie while Hero and Paladin are too coward to wield 2H in reggie and forced to use ugly shield and smol 1 handed weapons? Pic rel is Explorer warrior illust remade to be lore accurate and meta accurate

>>725357946
>Buccaneer
I want it. I want Pirates.

>>725358523
The fuck are you talking about
Hero's use 2H axes due to the higher weapon multiplier
Paladin's use 2H weapons for the same reason
1H isn't as good because you can still reach the attack speed cap with 2H

>>725358923
About non KMS servers with motherfucking terminus shield. It makes 2H weapon for hero and pally useless.

>>725358923
Even in GMS reggie and MSEA where terminus shield is a thing?

>>725358923
Why is Hero and Paladin wielding shield in grandis library's class guide then?

>>725358923
Stop replying to the autistic retard. He posts the same shit every thread and on /msg/.

>>725358159
>there are no nerfs or buffs
it has classic in the name therefore we will be comparing it to the original version
there are in fact nerfs and buffs no matter how much you say "nuh uh" because this game is a REMAKE of a product that previously existed

>never got to play AB even though I love the aesthetic
>would rather castrate myself than play modern MS and AB is way too late to appear in classic
SIGH..... Angelic Nut Buster my beloved...

>>725359349
But Hero and Pally cannout use 2H in interactive and forced to use terminus shield and should get ugly genesis 1H weapon. While DW can use 2H and princess no jewel without worrying about AS.

>>725359391
>therefore we will be comparing it to the original version
Autistic retards like you, sure.
ppl with a modicum of intelligence recognize that muh balance is going to be the last thing on the developers minds right now.
the developers do not care about your private server experiences. completely and utterly worthless.

>>725358923
Are u on KMS, GMS reggie, Reboot or MSEA?

>>725360014
this is a mouthbreather take
just because you are too stupid to think about game balance doesnt mean the people making the game are
this has to be bait i refuse to believe anyone is this reta

>>725360110
You are simply a drooling autistic dumbfuck. The developers are trying to figure out ways to make the game fun and losers like you are intensely scrutinizing how muh balance will differ compared to the state of the game over a decade and a half ago, based on extremely limited pre-alpha teaser footage.
You are a total loser.

oh it was bait
well that answers that

>>725360339
>y-you dare call me an idiot! you must be baiting
Cope however you like, you're still a complete moron at the end of the day.

you can literally see clerics dealing almost 0 damage to undeads during the maplecon playtest you absolute retard

I think if you retards played modern you would actually enjoy it, I quit maple for 15 years and only started modern again last year, thought I'd play for 15 minutes and quit but I ended up hooked and loving it, I would have been stoked to play osms prior but now i don't care and have 0 interest.

Most of you are just jaded old bitter boomers who probably haven't logged into the game for 15 years either, making assumption about a game you actually have no clue about, you still have another 6 months+ till classic comes out, instead of crying on 4chan for the next 6 months about every little buff and nerf why not try out modern?

>>725360601
>you can literally see clerics dealing almost 0 damage to undeads during the maplecon playtest you absolute retard

>>725360642
I played nuMaple extensively in 2012 and 2018.
Sorry champ, just don't care, and I'm not going to play with you.

>>725360601
a playtest is not the final product, retard
good lord you classic bozos are fucking retarded, just wait 6 months and then when the game is actually out you can start praising it or chimping out

the question is how will they monetize it

>>725360642
I can tell from your post that you play mobile/gacha games and therefore your opinion is worth less than the dirt underneath my shoe. Run away little kid, mummy and daddy are talking about things far beyond your ability to understand.

>>725360807
>umm why are you talking about the game before its released thats not allowed
would you rather we didnt talk about the game? i know as a /v/ poster you are not accustomed to on topic discussion but try not to ACTIVELY discourage it hmm?

>>725358923
Even in GMS interactive? Don't u know 22* terminus shield which is stronger than 2H weapons unless it is Dawn warrior?
Why does DW's sword have 1 handed hilt in illust when they use 2H sword without doubt?

>>725360954
I know this is hard for an autistic spastic like you to understand, but generally if there's very little to talk about, ppl with a modicum of sanity don't bother talking about it.
The type of ppl getting fussed about "balance" based on very little information are losers like you with nothing better to do lmao

>>725360834
Pets subscription
Old temporary cosmetics
Modern pastel tranny cosmetics in gacha
General gachapon stuff (strong gear, onyx apples, etc)
Premium FM subscription
2X EXP
Just from the top of my head

>>725360791
I don't know how to tell you this brother/retard but 2018 was almost EIGHT FUCKING YEARS AGO.
Do you know how much a game changes in 8 years?
God damn you boomers really are down to your last 2 grey matter brain cells huh.
I saw how maple was 8 years ago and I wouldn't have played that shit either, but modern maple is god tier and in 3 days one of the biggest patches in the history of maple is about to drop and everyone universally agrees the game is about to be in a perfect state.

>>725360834
I swear, if I see gachapon machines I'm uninstalling on the spot. I might even uninstall if I see any hairstyle gachapon coupons.
Actually... maybe the first thing to do when logging into the game proper should be to check the cash shop to see how the game is being monetised.

>>725361109
Don't care, my dear sperg. I am not playing with you, and that's final.

>loser
oh its this retard again
not responding to bait

>>725361060
damn do you think they’ll do a reboot style server? although that would kind of suck cause a big fun part of osms was the market

>>725361109
i know you're desperate for new /v/ friends to play with, but we just don't care. please beg on reddit instead.

>>725360861
Never played a mobile game/gacha in my life

>Run away little kid, mummy and daddy are talking about things far beyond your ability to understand.

Might be on of the most cringe things I've ever read on this website "mommy and daddy are talking", who the fuck talks like this, are you this mommy in this case?

I first played maple in the beta and I quit when the cash shop came out, you are a little bitch compared to me

>>725361187
>h-he called me a loser! he must be baiting!
Sure buddy, just keep coping by believing anyone who would dare call you a loser must be baiting you. There is no way an autistic freakazoid like yourself could ever actually be a loser haha

>>725361137
i’d be ok with cosmetic gachapon if they do egregious p2w gacha i might be out

>>725361137
>asian game
>without any sort of gacha
you better pack your things and just don't come back then
you people are exceedingly delusional if you believe the f2p crowd are the target audience, when most of the people bothering with classic are going to be people in their 30s who at the bare minimum should have a burger flipping job

what are my chances of meeting a pawg koreaboo gf on osms

>>725361214
I just find it hilarious you all seethe about modern maple so much, when you haven't played it in over a decade.

I would respect your opinions more if you played both games and actually had experience to form a proper opinion, I've played both old maple and modern, so I am qualified to give an opinion on both versions of the game, old maple really is dogshit compared to modern lmao.

I think it's probably the exact same scenario as when I played classic wow, the old games are filled with a bunch of handless boomers with big egos that in reality couldn't make it in the modern game, the grind would be to much, would die out to bosses like the handless shitters you are

why do modern maplestory players keep trying to shill the modern state of the game as good? you really don't understand the appeal of the old game at all.
We don't want 50+ hyper-mobile classes(characters) with a perfect spread of single-target, multi-target and utility skills, where literally everyone follows the exact same path to endgame like an assembly line production.

We yearn for the simpler days. 4 classes, adventure, community activity(PQs), progression that doesn't feel tailored to autistic ppl.

>>725361490
i’ve played both and modern is bloated dailies sim with shit fucking legion mechanic

>>725361343
I have an innate hatred of the bugmen and their gacha game addiction so I was being a bit harsh. Like the other anon, I wouldn't really complain about NX cosmetic gachas. I really just oppose anything which crosses into the realm of P2W, and imo gachapon machines were the beginning of the slow downfall of the good old days of MS.
But like you implied, these facsimiles of humans have made gacha into a part of their "culture" now. I am willing to wait for the actual launch to see how bad it is though.

>>725361490
>I just find it hilarious you all seethe about modern maple so much
seethe about it? i don't think about it at all, champ.
I will not play modern maplestory with you. I know you are desperate, but you will just have to accept it.

I heard modern maple has dailies. That by itself is enough to keep me off a game. Dailies are disgusting game design meant to keep people playing, and thus trying to bait them into spending. That's why they are all over mobile games.

>>725361623
I really don't care if you bozos play or not I was simply suggesting that instead of being gay retards on a forum speculating about irrelevant shit for the next year you try modern out and maybe the next year goes faster because you have something else to distract you.

By all means continue arguing about irrelevant crap that will have no outcome of the state of the game when it comes out a year from now

>>725361783
We're not playing numaple with you, sperglord.
You being mentally unhinged is already an unacceptable red flag. Nobody wants to play videogames with annoying spergs like yourself.

>>725361762
Oh no not a daily asking me to kill 500 mobs in the game where I kill 100k mobs per day omg and the daily where I log in and press a button that says "claim" and it gives me free shit what a terrible, terrible game aahhhh save me osms I want to go back to spamming heal on himes for 6 months instead

>>725361762
Yeah you are 100% on the mark.
When I was playing in 2018, it eventually hit me that the game was explicitly designed to make you compulsively login every day to complete daily shit or wait yet another day before completing your endgame armor set. Following that, I refused to be ensnared in this trap anymore, and ultimately realized how pointless and stupid everything was.

Old Maplestory at least has nostalgic value and community engagement.

>>725361845
>You being mentally unhinged is already an unacceptable red flag

Right but speculating every minor thing you saw in a 5 minute playtest for a game that isn't even coming out for another 12 months isn't mentally unhinged?

This entire thread is mentally unhinged boomers with decaying grey matter unable to accept any form of change desperate to recapture a moment that happened 20 years ago, that is what is truly mentally unhinged

>>725361845
Don't worry, you will fold.
She's coming in 3 days, and her release is going to be far more popular and relevant than your meme nostalgia server.
In fact, she is the sole reason Classic got delayed for another 6 months, Inkwell is fully aware a CBT now would be a huge flop because people would be too busy playing with her instead.

>>725361967
>When I was playing in 2018, it eventually hit me that the game was explicitly designed to make you compulsively login every day to complete daily shit or wait yet another day before completing your endgame armor set. Following that, I refused to be ensnared in this trap anymore, and ultimately realized how pointless and stupid everything was.

also you

>CANT WAIT TO LOG IN TO OSMS EVERY SINGLE DAY AND COMPULSIVELY HIT MOBS FOR 12 HOURS A DAY IF I MISS A SINGLE MINUTE OF GRINDING ILL GO INSANE AAAHHHHHHHH I NEED MY EXP AND MESO TO TO GAMBLE SCROLLS ALL DAY OR ILL GO INSANE AHHHH I NEED TO LOG IN RIGHT AFTER RESET TO SET UP MY GAY LITTLE SHOP IN THE BEST MAP AHHHHHHHH

>>725362058
>Right but speculating every minor thing you saw in a 5 minute playtest for a game that isn't even coming out for another 12 months isn't mentally unhinged?
I'm not doing that. I'm just laughing at you for being desperate for more friends to play with.

>>725361967
I mean, every (Asian made) game is like that, but it's all in HOW it's done. Dailies/login bonuses take advantage of you, there are people who will do them every day religiously just because they don't want to lose out on those rewards or bonuses. If I launch a game it should be because I personally feel like playing or grinding, not because I need to do my chores.

>>725362125
>Don't worry, you will fold.
>She's coming in 3 days, and her release is going to be far more popular and relevant than your meme nostalgia server.
>In fact, she is the sole reason Classic got delayed for another 6 months, Inkwell is fully aware a CBT now would be a huge flop because people would be too busy playing with her instead.

>>725362195
No that second paragraph is just hysterical mental illness on your end little bro.

0-4 I will make a cleric
5-9 I will make a page

>>725318343 (OP)
I dont trust nexon, this shit will be dead in the water in less than a year

>>725362197
>>725362309
Am I wrong tho, you bitch about "dailies" like it's the end of the world and a massive deal breaker, but truth is you are going to play the game every day for 12 hours a day anyway and dailies get completed in 5 minutes, so what's the point of crying about dailies if you complete them by just playing the game?

Would you be pissed if osms added a daily that gave you 2.5% exp for killing 100 mobs?

No, you're already logging in every day and killing 100 mobs retard, and if you fomo over a daily and feel forced to log in that's a you problem for being retarded, I could take the next 6 months off from dailies and I'd still be fine, it's not like you're account is bricked if you don't miss them.

It's just another retarded washed up old man boomer yelling at clouds type shit

>>725342395
I dont trust nexon, this shit will be dead in less than a year

>>725362710
even if it fails could it not lead to a private server renaissance

I don't play games that are free(read: for poor people)

>>725362761
>Am I wrong tho,
you're mentally unhinged. no wonder you struggle to find friends to play with

>>725362761
>you are going to play the game every day for 12 hours a day anyway
you cant just invent things to fit your narrative

>>725362761
>but truth is you are going to play the game every day for 12 hours a day anyway
Once again, that's your severe mental illness.
You don't know how others are going to play the game. Stop projecting your high-functioning autism onto others you embarrassing loser.

>>725355918
>I just do not understand why people are insisting HS is "class identity" and refuse to even think how they could give Bishops other good buffs instead of a buff that is the best skill in a game where the core gameplay loop revolves around very slow leveling. Even giving something like +25att +25matt +5% wep def +5% mag def that stacks with other damage buffs/items would already be a nice buff. Broken or massive? Not really, but it doesn't have to be busted or otherwise the class is dead and it's over since it's not broken anymore nobody wants them in party. It's like there is no ground between having busted skills or not having any instead of adjusting the numbers or adding new to create a more balanced, but still a desirable good buff for the party.
The real issue to me is that even that kind of buff would not make me pick priest over another class to add to my party. As a support class, they need to support, and since Nexon gives them skills that are weaker than other classes (even with the new holy arrow buff, they are still significantly weaker than an f/p mage, for example. the 2/3 cut of heal also makes them unreliable as a healer until much later on, and even then, won't be reliable at higher levels either if they ever dare to lag on accident or skip a healing step in, say, deep ludi)
I'm not saying priests should have buffs that break the game like HS, but it should be enough to make you consider "Do I want another DPS? Or do I want a support?". Either that or strip the "support" away from clerics/priests/bishops in general and have them just be a strong mage against demon / undead mobs while being comparable to i/l and f/p in other circumstances.

>>725360724
>does 450 x3 with a maxed holy arrow
>does 80s~90s with a maxed heal on max mobs hit
i can agree with anon regarding heal, but holy arrow definitely does damage

>>725363256
Imo this is what they should have done: split heal damage and heal HP into two % values: leave HP at 300% but lower undead damage to 100. Add some extra buff skills to Priest, like maybe Hyper Body for MP (since new Hyper Body is HP only now). Do something to make Priest into a real support class instead of being nothing but Holy Symbol turbo.

>>725362761
ask yourself why did the devs determine it necessary to add dailies into the game in the first place. is it to encourage players to log in everyday? if your game doesn’t do that inherently because it’s fun the game is flawed.

being against dailies is retarded
they should be meant as alternative to people who aren't nolifers and can't grind all day

>>725363701
to be fair to him dailies exist because the market is cutthroat in asia
if you arent personally sucking your players dicks from sunrise to sunset then you wont get their time and thus their money
dailies are a part of that competition to hook players on your game so even if a game was genuinely fun they would still add dailies if it was made in korea or japan

>tfw no Nemi gf
why live?

>>725363804
>>725363837
if you consider dailies a fun and engaging system then we can just end the discussion here because clearly there’s a disconnect in what we consider fun and im simply unwilling to bridge that gap right now

>>725363804
to be fair, i can kind of see why some people would mald.
it may take only 5 minutes a day, but if you are on vacation, a cruise, etc, you can't just log in for 30 minutes in one day and get the same 5 minutes x 6 days of progress you just lost. it becomes a bit worse when those 5 minutes x 6 days of progress is equivalent to 12+h x 6 days worth of resources ( symbols).
it also becomes a pain in the ass if all i want to do is play on the weekends to destress. now i have to turn on my computer, log in, accept quest, do something that i have to finish up, turn in quest, close game, turn off computer, go to work. that takes a bit longer than just 5 minutes at that point. Why do this? because those 5 days of doing that would surrmount to more than what I could ever earn in 2 days of no-lifing on the weekends.

>>725362947
If you aren't going to hit mobs in maplestory then what the fuck are you doing
Being a henehoe is not playing the game

>>725364182
>Being a henehoe is not playing the game
incredibly incorrect

>>725364175
i dont im just saying that to devs and execs dailies are a necessary evil
hell it is to asian players too they live and die by their dailies and gambling systems (gacha)

>>725364182
Anon, you are literally trying to say "the truth is you are going to play the game every day for 12 hours a day".
Severely mentally ill freakazoids like you might think playing the game for 12 hours a day is normal, but it isn't.

>>725364713
NEETs really are completely detached from the real world. I don't even work or sleep (separately, not together) for 12 hours a day.

>>725364713
NTA, I just don't get the disdain for dailies when you're going to finish them doing what you would have done anyway when playing. Even if you log in for only 30 minutes on a day, that would still be enough time to kill 300 mobs.

>>725364539
which is fine for them but i was just making a point to the guy defending dailies that having dailies in a game is a valid deal breaker for some and is one of the reasons i and others don’t play modern maple and would rather play osms when it comes out

>>725364182
Lol what, how did you even get it completely backwards
MapleStory was a glorified chatbox back then, lack of content made it so fashion story was even more endgame compared to now

>>725363804
First of all, dailies cause FOMO, so if I'm not able to play for a few days I'm gonna be missing some stuff in the game, and if I feel like I HAVE to play every day then the game stops being fun and it just becomes a chore. I want to play whenever I feel like just for fun, not every day to complete some chores.
And second, if dailies are too good then that would be the meta for training so most people would just log in for the day, do the dailies and log off, which is retarded for an MMO. And if they don't give you shit then why have them in the first place?
Dailies should not be in the game, period.

>Seriously considering trying nu-Maple to scratch the itch

Be honest, how bad of an idea is it?

>>725364862
dailies are bait designed to keep people playing and any system in a free game designed to keep people playing is there to tempt people into eventually spending
>just dont do the daily
if it were that simple we wouldnt have addicts (and japanese/korean players contain MANY addicts just look at the sheer quantity of gacha games in both countries)

>>725365189
really bad, just go play something like Southperry in Mapleworlds

>>725365189
The upcoming patch is literally one of the best times ever for a returnee
Challenger World for quick progression AND a cute new girl job that not only is extremely strong but is purposely designed to be easy to play

>>725363804
>>725365142
I mean you could make the same argument for seasonal events, specially the ones with unique rewards that only come back once every 5 years or every decade

>>725365189
horrible
i played artale to "scratch" the itch
now i have a 13x bishop, 130 SE mule, 81 MU mule, 78 magic crash mule, 99 powercrash mule, and an unfinished lv 52 seal mule before i officially quit (6 months ago)
just do what >>725365239 said and play southperry instead. it scratches the itch, while also being short and easy to "complete" so even if you NEET no lifed it, it won't do you much good as there is not much more to gain in the long-term

>>725365436
Events tend to be things that you can do at your own pace during the season they are in. The kind of pressure they create is completely different. And those are usually just for cosmetic items, not actual account progression (unlike dailies).

>>725365189
Play on some old school private server instead, you'll have a better time without all the new slop jobs they've released in the last 10+ years.

>>725365576
>earring with +10 to all stats
>farm daily to get 100k of the event's currency
>in some cases it's a cashless gacha where you have to open boxes for 0.00000002% chance of getting what you want
Right

>>725365794
That sounds like some modern maple garbage, events were nothing so awful back during the original "classic" era.

>>725365189
It's cool the first few days when you're turboprogressing, but the fun plummets to shit once you hit the earlygame (everything before 6th job is basically the tutorial) and have to deal with:
>a gorillion different ways to upgrade your gear and character, all of them expensive, time-consuming, and heavily reliant on RNG
>bosses that oneshot you with every move and that require you to make use of the aforementioned upgrade systems if you don't wanna waste a gorillion hours doing 1 dmg to kill them
>hyperinflated economy where anything worth a damn is going to cost several billions of meso because everyone is killing dozens of bosses on dozens of alt characters which is practically a requirement now
>having to get a gorillion characters to lvl200+ so you can get their links and upgrade your legion, which is pretty much required to progress at this point
>having to come up with unique names for those gorillion characters
>having to suffer through unskippable cutscenes on those gorillion characters
>choreslop that's going to consume an ungodly amount of time on your normal dailies, normal weeklies, event dailies, and event weeklies
>pretty much every other event having FOMO cosmetics that literally never come back
>having to choose between Heroic (shit) and Challenger (shit) worlds, each with their own different ways to fuck you over
That's just from the top of my head, there's probably more shit that I can't remember right now. So I'd recommend staying away from it, because it's going to be worse if you try it and get invested.

>>725366574
Honestly, the good thing about nu-Maple is that if you skip a day or two, it becomes really easy to quit the game after

>>725365189
Don't expect the same Maplestory, it's become more like other KMMOs so you will get
>fun gameplay with lots of classes and bosses
>insane grinds
>fomo out of the ass
>events that boost progression significantly faster than playing outside of them.

>>725366574
If it was terrible then it wouldn't be pulling decent numbers still. Like most KMMOs there's a good amount to like buried underneath the bullshit

>>725353287
lol they aren't gonna add this shit to oldschool
they might add some bs down the line but not THIS bs, they know that much

>>725367050
This.

Well /v/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMCaGr7bEA8

>>725356546
they might include some other broken skill instead that isn't flat exp increase, that is if they even don't include it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6LIFBVhObQ

>that feeling of starting your adventure

>>725342086
>But given this is Classic, worst they can do is 2x EXP coupons.
*raughs in brizzard*

>>725358078
>he didn't see 3rd job

>>725342182
just because the system thats p2w on the proper server isnt p2w on the ironman server doesnt mean the game doesnt have a p2w system in it even if the system itself is not p2w on that server
they took that system and removed the real money from it but everything that made it a scummy game mechanic is still there

Guys remember Kerning PQ? Remember how only one party could do it at once? Remember how you had to see who went in if you missed it and advertise that your group has AC + track? Remember setting up an AC?

>>725367446
okay explain how they can fuck it up as bad as blizzard, i never played any of their games since the graphics always cringed me

>>725347282
You are subhuman

>>725367719
>get exposed for being a hypocritical idiot
>"g-ghh! you are subhuman!"

>>725367638
yes

>>725367704
>heres your classic game
>it's actually an uncanny valley of the classic game made by people who hate you
>worse job than private server devs who do it for free but actually care (they don't actually do it for free)
Basically fundamental changes to the game such as 100xing server population but keeping the zones which were designed for much smaller servers exactly the same leading to extreme frustration over simple game mechanics. This is exacerbated by the fact that there is an *extreme* botting/hacking problem which Blizzard turns a blind eye to.
So for example not only are there 100x the people competing for a herb to pick in the wild, you're also competing with bots who flyhack under the map to pick the herbs the microsecond the appear.
Playing World of Warcraft (any version) is as close to the digital version of paying someone to beat the fuck out of you every day that you can get.

>>725367982
I can rephrase it better
>Playing Worlf of Warcraft (any version) is paying a tranny a monthly subscription to spit on you.

>>725366574
one of the main things that bothers me about modern maple is the uniformity of monster killing/drops
they were streamlined further and further until basically monsters are now just 'slightly more hp/exp' then the previous one, at the same ratio, while doing slightly more damage, they all drop spell traces, about the same meso and the same equips (which is favored to drop for your class) and thats it leaving no reason to kill anything but the strongest thing you can 1hit with your mapwide

old maple had a variety of monsters with a variety of drops/exp at all levels, some had insane avoid, lots of health or damage, or stood completely still, or had no drops at all or any combination of these, and pretty much everything had a near unique reason to kill it

>>725365189
Do you want to solo bosses that used to require p2w back in the day and feel like you're "progressing" farther than you've been before now that it spoonfeeds you to 260?
Play it.

Do you want to discover an upgrade system far more heinously irritating than potential ever was and lose billions of mesos on no progress and destroyed equipment and depend on boss drops that never drop?
Run, far away. But that's being mitigated this patch. Maybe.

>>725366574 (Me)
>Heroic (shit) and Challenger (shit) worlds
Fuck, I meant Heroic and Interactive.
Heroic are the "iron man" worlds, and some people will say it's the "F2P" mode because you can buy red/black cubes (which aren't even tradeable on Interactive) with regular currency and there's no scrolling + they buff your character to make up for it, and bosses drop more money to make up for the lack of trading.
HOWEVER, the lack of trading becomes a massive pain in the ass later. On Interactive servers you can buy most things with enough grinding (like pre-upgraded gear (on Heroic you're gonna have to do all the cubing and star-forcing yourself) or NX cosmetics), and pets are surprisingly cheap (like a few millions of meso each, which is less than 1 day worth of the daily bosses that you can oneshot by the time you reach 5th job). Pets are the biggest QoL feature because of autobuff, which means that without them you're going to have 6 extra buttons (which should've been fucking passives) to press every now and then.
>>725367292
The likeable stuff makes it even more frustrating to be honest, because if it was irredeemable there'd be no reason to even bother, but having something good makes it feel like the bad parts are ruining it, which isn't far from the truth considering how simultaneously evil and retarded Nexon is.
There's so much stuff they could do that would make the game more popular and profitable, but they insist in keeping it shit.

>>725365189
give it a try and see why they are backpedaling

>>725369279
this looks awful

>>725369661
don't worry it gets better
https://youtu.be/c5Empm27XP4

Which NPC would you have sex with?

>>725369279
Anybody that likes this or defends this in anyway is a subhuman and should not be listened to at all

>>725369840
The Dual Blade lady and the female F/P Mage even if she's not actually an NPC.

>>725369279
>Manually grind instead of macro or botting

>>725369279
>backpedaling
your transtalgia server got postponed until 2026 because of how much lower priority it is m8

>>725341335
It’s removed the MP/HP passives are % increases using a fixed level value now.

>>725370368
nexon sponsored post

>>725370745
Damnit.

>>725368539
we’re getting pitch pity and restore options soon

>>725371003
Why does that bother you?

I dunno if I have the strength to spend 5h to get 1% exp anymore

>>725371635
Is that a mod or something? Where is it from?

>>725371557
I thought so too, but it is incredibly addicting when you don't have any dailies.

>>725371947
just pixel art

Anons that played on private servers and joined a /v/ guild, how cancerous was it?
I have no friends and making friends on modern MMOs doesn't seem to be a thing anymore, so joining a /v/ guild when classic releases seems to be my main option.

hopefully all the maple friends I had moved on with their lives and have a nice job/house/family

>>725373064
But what's the source?

>>725374607
dunno, just saw it in a random discord and saved

>>725352086
Yeah, it just came out like 3 days ago. It's actually pretty decent for what it is surprisingly. P2W as fuck though, but that's pretty normal for mobile afk idlesloppa.

>>725374956
The fact it did a
>quick! buy this item within 6 hours! only 1$!
Is when I decided I was never going to spend money on it even though I considered it for a moment

Why was Jett removed? I kind of remember something about making GMS more like KMS, but GMS kept making its own additions and changes even after the character's removal.

>>725375339
Iirc Jett was a reskinned class same with a chinese one

>try the idle game
>everything has an arbitrary timer that you have to watch ads to skip
What year is this?

>>725369279
>>725369740
Nexon is pushing for damage skins in mabi, how over is it?

>>725375339
Jett was a reskin of a different regional exclusive class (Zen) that got removed and replaced with Mo Xuan. It's the same with Beast Tamer getting replaced with Lynn, these classes where just not all that well designed and the developers of these regions thought it would be better to start over from scratch and make a new class instead of trying to fix them.
However while Zen characters got automatically changed to Mo Xuan, Jett characters just got turned into beginners because their thematic elements are completely different.

>>725375273
Pretty much all mobile idlesloppa do the same thing also rip those two $1 equip packages are one of the best purchases in the game

>>725376243
I have no clue why they even made another idle game, they already have Maple M and the new game genuinely looks like dogshit too.

>>725337006
F/P Wizard and Bishop are the white man's classes

>>725376351
Not all Zens got to be converted. MSEA made players convert their Zen to an explorer pirate or get deleted.

>>725376348
my friend likes using them to make his dmg easier to see but they take up too much space for them to be worth hording

>>725376354
>also rip those two $1 equip packages are one of the best purchases in the game
I know they were, which is so fucking stupid they did that
i got to the point where i was like
>wait, i don't see these weapons....
>don't fucking tell me they are fucking ADDITIONAL ones
so yeah fuck maplestory idle even though im still playing it and got to lvl 48

>>725376413
I remember seeing an idle game in Maplestory Worlds some time ago and it was moderately popular so they probably saw that and thought it was a good idea to make more money.

>>725362710
has any Korean man been brave enough to ask at a Q&A whether or not this will be a MS2 all over again if not enough hair and face coupons are boughted?

chibi sex chibi sex

>>725318343 (OP)
>Assasins got nerfed
>Bandits got buffed
RELEASE IT

payup for that $5 yearly ad remover goy

>>725366574
Honestly I played during the fire/hyper boost whatever a few years ago and played a little last year too and have a mage at 212 and the unskippable cut scenes are the worst part. Just let me fucking progress/play I don't care about your toddler story arcs.

>>725376987
>korean man
>asking about a feature that's exclusive to GMS
You are a special kind of stupid

>>725377237
meant for >>725376243

Left or right?

>>725323392
Martin Mystery

>>725375889
>tfw they're all in their 30s-40s by now with successful jobs and married with kids.

>>725337006
For me, it's I/L. I do like Bowman a lot too.

>>725377701
ok but answer the question

>>725377937
I am still fucking seething that Irena and the others never became their own playable class like Mihile.

>>725378657
BRO SAME
HOLYSHIT I never thought i'd ever meet anyone else with this same opinion. You know how many years i have YEARNED for irene to become playable? I would have loved it
Same with fucking ayame. Why is she not playable Nexon? GDI

>>725378046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAV4wfa3wgo

>>725379534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHOpyvvv0QY

>>725379656
classic

>>725378657
How did Mihile even become a playable class to begin with? I never played either, but how is he different from Dawn Warrior?

>>725379534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzxROmIXxjU

>decide to give the new maple idle a try on my phone
>see button to "watch ad"
>mfw

>>725376437
>the healslut class is the white man's class
says a lot about the current state of society

>>725379856
Originally Mihile used the original skill set Dawn Warrior used when they became the sun and moon class that they are now. When Mihile got revamped he was changed to a parry class where you can be invincible for most of a fight if you are good at parrying, and beyond that he has a shit ton of damage reduction. Basically he's one of the tankiest classes in the game while Dawn Warrior is now a standard one button burst class.

>>725380472
>rooted android with adblock in everything
>cant see forced ads
>cant claim daily bonus exp because ad wont play
blessing and a curse

>>725381203
they make it worse
at first its like 15second ads
now im getting 2x ads of 30s ea for one ad; which sometimes breaks which makes me have to replay the fucker for my rewards

>>725381295
*uninstalls*

i don't feel like waiting

>numaple is dogshit
>private servers are unreliable and can go poof at any moment
>worlds is janky as hell
>2 is fucking dead
>the idle game is a shitty cashgrab
Classic will save us, right? How are they going to fuck it up?

>>725379856
I recall when Mihile first came out, he was like a slightly different Dawn Warrior, and specialized in shield skills the normal Cygnus variant did not have. It's not that different from comparing Fighter and Page, in a way. I assume Nexon didn't see a point in releasing a new class that was so similar to a pre-exisitng class, so they didn't bother with the other Knights, as much as it bums me out.

>>725374949
What a shame.

>>725380609
>Healslut
>Best screen clear in the game
Sure thing Chang.

>>725381723
Even though it's nostalgic at this point, I always felt like Cygnus Knights were the beginning of a lot of unnecessary slop and I hated how they took skills from other classes and made them feel less unique in that way.

>>725382070
Cygnus Knights suck but at least they're still classes, not pre-existing characters like what Nexon considers as "classes" nowadays

OG maple ended when they added pirates.

Corsair was just a glorified bowmaster and NL if they had a child
Bucc was just a 4th job warrior that was mixed with bandit

>>725382070
Wasn't that the point? They were just slightly tweaked Explorers, and given some extra fancy skills to help them rocket up to level 120.

what went wrong

>>725382709
This shit was even more of a chat room than old school MapleStory

>>725382709
Making a game called MapleStory 2 that doesn't play like Maple at all

>>725382457
>Corsair was just a glorified bowmaster and NL if they had a child
Wrong. Corsair had no mobility because of the dumb ship. Literally the slowest class in the game. This is a case where the remake class was actually needed.

>>725382709
tried to be maplestory despite not being maplestory at all
should have tried being its own thing

would you?

Remember that feeling of getting the bowl cut from the Amoria hair coupon quest?

>>725383302
Is there even any other hair style available from that?

>>725377949
the totally spies cross over episode BLEW my mind back then

>>725383447
yes, i got this one back in the day

>>725383447
yeah, you can get the buzzcut looking one, the long spikey hair one and what >>725383661 showed

>>725369279
Modern maplecucks genuinely cannot tell the difference between this and old maple gameplay

>>725383774
>the highest level
based blackgoku

>>725383787
How did we let everything get so fucking gay and bad, why are people who are the most psychopathic and have the worst taste imaginable in charge of everything

>>725383774
i miss spookyniggas so much omfg that server was so fun when it was alive, last time i played maple btw. i regret leaving the cord after the server died cause i had a lot of fun hanging out with you guys

>>725383787
>attacks are literally cinematics now
What went so wrong lmfao

>>725383937
I can't blame them entirely. Their customer base, the paying ones at least, only like flashing lights and big numbers getting bigger. It's simply good business to cater to them.

>>725383787
I refuse to call this maplestory, this shit looks like some shitty gacha game

>>725377937
having to choose between the original artstyle and chibi sluts is unfair

>>725383941
kys newboi thats not the real spooky

>>725384158
Piss off madwolf you smelly autist.

>>725383302
>get free coupon for random hair
>use it (obviously)
>you now look like absolute shit
>have to pay real money to fix it
truly genius and evil game design

>>725384158
That's the real spooky and you weren't in it little guppy puppy pup yn

>>725365189
meme answer or real answer?
obvious you're not going to get a real answer in these threads

Anyone play the crypto maplestory version?

>>725365189
As much as I am waiting for classic I do not find current maple interesting. I tried it out very recently to make an account in preparation for classic, but played about an hour and just stopped there. It really isn't the same compared to the very slow and simple playstyle of old maplestory that I very much like.

>>725383787
So I can just pull up cookie clicker on one side of my monitor and youtube on the other and have the premium endgame maplestory experience?

For me, it's Jewpiter.

>>725384850
I saw her once at Future Henesys, though I couldn't click her. Guessing some GM was having a bit of a giggle.

>>725384836
bossu

>>725382887
sucks that they didn't capitalize more on the social featured and axed it before they could of gotten all the covidbux

Kult

I wonder how much content progression the game will have. At the very least I hope they never introduce the Potential system to this classic server.

>>725384850
younger me for years was too scared to go through that one map because of this character

autismoe

>>725384443
no and thats also the reason they are releasing classic. fuckers are running out of options/ideas

Would you welcome Ariant to Classic World? Or is it too new for your tastes?

>>725383447
Yeah, there was an even shittier one that made you look like a hobo with a bald spot. I swear the only one that looked decent must've had an infinitesimally small chance of being selected.

How long after release do you think they'll add Pirates?

>>725387153
everything up to temple of time is classic

>>725383774
good times
t. dargun

>>725387153
No, it's either too op or useless with no inbetween. I mean they could definitely add it back in later but they'd have to revamp the geography to make the platforming and individual map layout more like an extension of victoria island

>>725387153
Theoretically I'm down for any area if it's appropriately balanced and scaled for classic

>>725384850
>>725384975
>>725385686
qrd?
I quit gms ages ago, what lore is this

>>725387153
It still counts as Classic imo, but I don't remember ever going there, I remember one of my friends talking about the new Ariant PQ back in the day but I never tried it

>>725387153
ariant is fine, never did the pq tho

>>725388187
not classic the same way pirates are not classic
the classic marker is releasing on launch and maybe within a year
orbis is classic
el nath is classic

>>725388172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAHnxIXYefQ&t=5170s

>>725388172
Commonly known as the White Lady of Perion. She might be a GM, an anti-bot measure, or whatever. I don't think anyone actually knows what her deal is.

>>725362761
Subhuman thirdies can't understand why dailies are cancerous. Don't worry about it bro, we don't expect better of you.

>>725388920
classic is going to be launching with down jump, that's not classic.

One problem I have with modern MMOs in general is how they always add things to the end game but rarely add things to the early and mid game, I hope Classic World will add new things for lower levels and not just think about adding more overpowered shit for the later levels
Even if I'm way past the early levels I wouldn't even mind creating a new character just to see the new content

>>725389336
thats an obvious exception since someone at nexon decided qol is more important than classic preservation
doesnt make ariant true classic though its more pre-bb than classic

>>725387424
the bald spot is the best one though

>>725389591
there's going to be a whole new area that never existed at all before with future library ellinia assets

>4th job
not classic
>3rd job
not classic
>down jump
not classic
>thieves
not classic
>english text
not classic

>>725389962
yep and thats not classic either so i wont be going there

>>725390060
>thieves not classic
What's it like being Korean and needing an SSN to play video games?

>>725387424
>there was an even shittier one that made you look like a hobo with a bald spot

>>725390117
>SSN
not classic, you could play on KMS without a vpn/SSN, or kr phone number up until 2011. All you had to do was solve some shitty anti-spam KR captcha.

>>725385468
They seem reasonably interested in listening to player feedback but I'm wondering how they'll do it. A simple polling system seems too good for Nexon, but if we got something like that, I'd vote against pirates with every fabric of my being.

As a bowmaster main I'm already mad that every character now gets a base 5% crit chance, it was the one thing that made archers unique

>>725390339
>someone saved it
KEKKKKK

>>725390675
sins and mauraders can crit

>suggest to play mapleroyals, the best classic maplestory experience currently available
>*crickets*

>>725390918
Pservs will never match official servers in scope and size.

>>725390987
mapleryoals has 2,000 players online almost all the time

>>725390685
These threads have been a goldmine of old MS screenshots, whoever's dumping them is a hero

>>725391059
>he doesn't know

>>725390532
I like Pirates...

>>725390675
Keep an eye on the eventual Priest situation; if they nerf Holy Symbol you can bet Sharp Eyes is next.

>>725390918
>dishonestly pretending not to know why no one wants to go play royals

>>725391059
Did I stutter?

>>725391168
ok fine but it is still a whole lot of players
>>725391248
can you tell me, i honestly have no idea
>>725391268
calm down edgelord

>>725391190
I like pirates quite a bit but I don't like the philosophy behind their design. They were the first sign of the increasing homogenization of new classes. They basically play like hybrids of existing classes, which is fun but I prefer each one feeling completely unique and having a niche that others can't fill.

>>725391168
>>725391248
what happened to royals this time

>>725391318
>edgelord
I just stated a fact. No private server will ever even come close to a real server's popularity. It's not even close.

Outside of the release period party quests should have a hard mode for all level ranges on a rotating schedule with tons of variability to everything inside of them including maps. Players should get resources that are always valuable making PQs always worth completing but without turning them into daily chore. Rather than restricting channels to 1 party per channel each PQ should have a key farmed from regional monster drops and consuming a key gives you access until you successfully complete the PQ. I think cycling which Hard Mode PQ is available once every 2-3 days is a fine cadence.

Orbis ship rides should still operate on a schedule and there needs to be a fair handful of thoughtful group events during the trip that riders can help resolve. To keep the novelty for longer the ticket price should be higher than it used to be and/or require a fuel contribution item meaning players will travel less but be more engaged with the experience overall as they'll need more time to encounter all of the events. First time riders get a round trip ticket to go home for free.

Essentially the depth and number of events and PQs should be marginally improved then access to these has to be tied to more resources around the world giving people a more meaningful adventure together.

I can't wait to be in a /v/ guild again with a bunch of schizophrenic trannies and weeaboos!

>>725358773
I remember buccaneer being worthless at bosses, there were very few setups where speed infusion was worth it.

>>725391615
I wonder if they are introducing a system right from the start to create guilds or if we have to wait for Orbis to get guilds. Some people from this site are cool so it's going to be fun meeting new ones and probably some faces from the past.

>>725391615
The only one going right now is a bunch of well adjusted weebs

>>725391615
>guild will evolve into cliqueposting high school drama and egirls trying to turn themselves into living deities
oh boy
i cant wait
(please kill me now)

Maple story idle is already out tho

>>725391780
Yea they were brought to bosses for the Speed Infusion like how Archers were brought for Sharp Eyes.
But Buccaneer was really fun because you could have 100% uptime on i-frames if you did it well so farming was engaging and fun compared to a Mage holding 1 button while falling asleep.

https://youtu.be/oKn1KfFbMM0?t=66

>>725391568
>consuming a key gives you access until you successfully complete the PQ
What kind of drop rate on the keys were you thinking? Would it be tradeable, sellable in FM shops or purely obtainable through personal grinding? I really, really like that idea a lot though.

so nobody is gonna spill the beans about mapleroyals?

>>725392226
I will NOT watch ze ads

>>725392639
people need to be playing royals to spill the beans on it

>>725392725
several people in this thread know something and won't share it

>>725392639
Im not playing royals again

>>725392418
I recall Mercedes was pretty similar. Had to manage skill cooldowns, but I enjoyed chaining her different attacks together and it'd make you almost completely invincible if you were able to keep the combo going.

>>725392792
no proof = shitposting
its that simple
burden of proof is on them for making the claim

I hope there are no missable quests or PQ rewards

>>725392952
well i'm having a great time

>>725392639
multiclient hp wash nx vote meta is an abomination

Rather than implementing a generic auction house the team should utilize a search function for customizable player shops. Players can visit the market entrance, search and select up to 10 items, and then be offered access to a bespoke area full of selected player shops containing at least 1 of each of those items. You would still see a few others shopping but each of you is seeing a personalized display of shops relevant to your character or what you searched for. This keeps the convenience of an auction house and the faithful novelty of visiting another players personal maple shop.
>>725392481
Keys would be tradeable of course since the spirit of the original maple is to create opportunity for engagement between players. Keys should be obtained at a difficulty scaling with the original level range of the PQ so drop rates would be slightly easier for HM KPQ vs HM LudiPQ say 15-20min of almost guaranteed grinding for a key vs ~30min. These HMPQ key drops should skew to mobs that are less valuable for overleveled players giving new players a passive form of trade income.

>>725393260
>classic confirmed no HP washing
That's one major positive for the official release.

>>725393286
you just described owl of minerva
but yes owls should be buyable with mesos or free

>>725393286
I would prefer just having the auction house be controlled by interacting with a Free Market NPC, and maybe make it so you have to be on the seller's channel to view or purchase their goods. It brings people back to the FM without making me relive the slog of regularly spending hours in the FM checking every shop for deals.

Thoughts on adding secondary effects to items? It's a severely underutilized mechanic that they forgot about. IIRC, CWK weapons have some unremarkable effects.

What if, for example, the level 90 2H Sword "Berzerker", had a secondary effect where if it were wielded by a White Knight/Paladin, all elemental effects would be cancelled out but you get an X% increase in overall damage. It could give purpose to otherwise useless items like the aforementioned sword.

>>725393828
It's the system we should've kept instead of potentials.

>>725393332
It's still crazy to me how they just namedropped HP washing like that

>>725393828
>>725393994
Only if there's no way to change the secondary effect. None at all.

>>725392925
Mercedes had this pretty fun infinite vertical climbing ability, which was completely useless in practice but I thought it was pretty cool.

https://youtu.be/8URndPNKD30?t=6

>>725393501
that's owl of minerva but cooler and less tedious. the idea that you can pool the shops with the stuff you want into one convenient spot is pretty cool without the soullessness of a basic bitch auction house. plus it would be kinda charming and cute
>>725393828
Yeah that sounds really cool and like another anon said, don't make it rng or reroll shit, just make it completely unique to that piece of gear and maybe try to not make them so strong so you don't feel forced to use it.

>>725393828
I'd love having small secondary effects that mildly change the optimal way to smack slimes. But then I'd also want a system that allows lower level weapons with secondary effects that I like to be viable at higher levels.

>>725394125
Everyone I know who played in the 2006 days said they would skip classic completely if it had HP washing. Makes sense to me they'd address it.

>>725393828
It sounds like a cool idea and make some equipment feel a bit more unique to use with being able to kind of mix your "build" a little bit. Balance as always is the concern as you could easily switch the idea behind this by making a bad choice and have the secondary effect of an item be too strong over everything else.
>>725394125
I think HP washing is a lot more known now through private servers and word going around. Even if it wasn't mandatory it is still beyond annoying knowing you can permanently brick yourself from higher HP because you didn't know about it, didn't want to suffer hundreds of hours due to unoptimal stats and of course pouring hundreds of dollars if not couple thousand just to reset it finally. HP washing was a main concern of mine when it came to classic.

>>725394125
I'm still bent that this is taking so long but on the other hand it really does seem like the leads on the team making it are very lucid when it comes to the issues the OG MS had. If they can establish a good rapport with the players to make sure the direction of new content is collaborative then I think this game will be in good hands overall.

How do you guys feel about the new mobs and areas? Personally idk, I think it looks really really good and fitting to the old art style and map layout. Does nu-maple even make maps with slopes like this anymore or is everything flat?

they gave this nigga a green tobin cut wow

>>725353201
I'm glad final attack is closer to the quick and flashy original rather than the braindead % chance to randomly add an extra line of damage to your attacks, as that was one of my favorite aspects about classic maplestory warriors.

But the new change is bizarre. You have a much lower 25% chance to have trigger a final attack charge to use manually. That sounds neat on paper because it gives you a more active playstyle, but it only does 50% more than power strike and comes out faster, and you have to keep an eye on the icon to see when it's available. That's a lot of work for such a small gain. Unless you just spam both buttons simultaneously so you can use final attack whenever it's available.

>>725393332
Actually it isn't. It doesn't capture the old essence of maple with it's imperfections. I played Dark Knight so I can tank attacks from Horntail and Pink bean. It makes ZERO fucking sense why archers and night lords should also participate in these bosses without investing resources into HP. It's one of the reasons nu maple is shit because HP is a useless stat now. All classes can have 10 hp and clear every boss in Nu Maple because it's all % based, it's a literal joke.

>>725398094
>I should spend inordinate amounts of NX just to be able to participate in the high level meta because this unintended mechanic was part of the old meta
No, just no. Class rebalances show that even the devs think your way of thinking is just plain wrong.

>>725398094
>without investing resources into HP
Because that's not how it went. You purchased INT gear and put all of your stats for like 130 levels into INT and only INT and then had to spent a ton of money on NX to get AP reset scrolls from the cash shop to have normal stats and remove points from MP and then increase HP. No one ever just put points into HP that would otherwise go to a damage stat to be tankier since that would cripple your character.
It was a completely cancerous mechanic.

>>725318343 (OP)
what server are ya'll niggers playing on
Bera chads come forth

>>725327108
damn
so official public US release mid 2027 then i guess
oh well

>>725399239
I was Bera born and raised back in the day. I'll never leave.

>>725348379
you hope wrong
it's nexon m8
do you know how much fucking money monster carney will bring them lole

At the very least the dude who posted all the updated skills on his channel will be in the closed beta and will post a lot about it

>>725399239
I think I just picked Windia back in the day because iirc it was the first option.

>>725399239
started on bera super early on because the red shield with the B on it looked cool to me as a kid, moved to scamia later because it had more players but then regretted it because it was constantly full, left that shithole when windia released and stayed until zenith came out, then fotm rerolled to DB on chaos for the lulz and the lv200 chase. that was the last time I played the game

>>725399461
I'm tempted to filter these threads since they just make me more impatient for the full release.

I have a confession...

I only got to like level 32 when I was a kid..


and later on would play on a private server where I got to like third/fourth job class... my real childhood nostalgia basically lives and dies on Victoria Island

>>725401197
Victoria Island is where the game's soul exists.

>>725401197
Nostalgia comes from the sovl and believing that we are going home...