Thread 725640569

This was the one genuinely good game that I played this year. I don't understand you pearl-clutching purist faggots on this website, it's still a genuinely good game but this time I can mod Ashley to be nude and dance around when standing still.

>>725640569 (OP)
It's your own fault for assuming the majority of posts is being made in good faith or even by people who played the game. Most of the time is genuine shitposters, autists, discords, shizophrenic outcasts and third worlders who can't even afford the necessary hardware to run games on, let alone the games itself.

There. I just spoonfed /v/ to you, you can now feel like a retard (because you are)

>>725640903
Based and blackpilled. The second a game drops with more than 3 polygons and a female character, this board turns into a psych ward overnight. Half of them haven’t even touched a controller since the Xbox 360 days, but they’ll write 30 paragraphs on why “it’s not RE anymore.” Just play the game, mod Ashley into a stripper if it makes you happy, and let the schizos bark at the moon.

>>725640569 (OP)
thanks, i'll probably buy it now

most of the time when /v/ complains about a game they're wrong

>>725640569 (OP)
I felt like it was a great, completely different game from the original. The original is kind of slow and methodical, where this one is pretty high octane. It might be the best gun-based action game ever made.

>>725641112
I see a lot of complaints on /v/ about this game but none for legitimate reasons. A lot of the complaints are stupid nonsensical bullshit, but as someone who never played the original with no dog in the race of whether it's a "demake" or not, this game pisses me off because of the ridiculous inaccuracy of weapons and extremely restrictive animation dependent movement.

>>725641063
>this board turns into a psych ward overnight.

>>725641212
>completely different game from the original
why do OGfags keep using this cope

>>725641832
There's a certain subset of psychopath that actually prefers tank controls. They're just fucking insane, ignore them.

>Reused assets everywhere that completely kill the God tier atmosphere of the original game
>Sanitized character designs and dialog
>Characters are depicted completely different with the only positive change being Krauser
>1 second delay animation delay
>Bullet spread RNG that completely kills the firing range from fun to a frustrating mess and makes the whole game less about skill and more about dice rolls
>Destroyed Weskers theme in Mercenaries with on of the worse remixes I have heard in my life
>No ballistics
6/10 game, you're 2 years late for this discussion.

>>725642249
>Nitpick niggery
As expected. Sorry about your autism diagnosis, faggot.

>>725642325
All adds up to a giant pile of shit, just like every single little little flaw in your body and mind makes you gigantic mentally ill dysgenic looking cunt nobody likes.

>Starts projecting really fucking hard
Damn, bitch. lmao

It was never a good game because you don't get to fuck the shit out of ashley

>>725640569 (OP)
I liked it, but I enjoyed the original much more.

>>725642719
No you didn't.

I can't decide whether to mod Ashley to be naked with a light dusting of pubic hair or to have her in her original skirt with pantsu

Scene girl Ashley is fantastic

>>725642828
Ashley Thicc Nude mod

>>725642793
great thread OP

>>725643031
Thanks, butthurt faggot!

>>725643104
>th-AAAAAACCCCCCKKKKKKK

FINALLY he fucking killed himself.

i played the demo and it felt weird compared to re2remake, leon's hair looked weird, the rain looked weird

i pirated it a week ago and i found out the ada wong dlc hasnt been cracked either

>>725640903
fpbp

>>725643775
Stop replying to yourself OP you massive cum guzzler

>>725640569 (OP)
The original was better. Most pointless remake ever

>>725640569 (OP)
Every character is somehow worse. Especially Leon. No charisma. He's also somehow incompetent in this version. There's too many plot holes because of this version.
>>725641212
The remake is slower than the original.

>>725640569 (OP)
Whether you like the game or not, all that really matters with Re4R is that RE4 is still the king of Action Horror. It's almost pathetic. 20 years and the OG has barely been challenged and now it's remake is the only game in the same category. I love the genre and like TEW2 and Dead Space 1&2, but c'mon. Unless those really hit your specific autism just right, RE4 is just better.

Getting back to the remake: it's greatest detractors can only claim it's not as good as OGRE4. I've never seen them claim any other game was better than Re4R. Is that kinda insane? A remake from a newer team can be nearly on par with one of the best games of all time? Judging by Remakes and their usual reception, that's a extra difficult feat to achieve. I'm glad that Resident Evil seems to be in good hands again.

So let's make a shitty b movie multi-player game and ruin the franchise again.

>>725640569 (OP)
I assume that most only played it on console because it is shittier w/o mods. After you mod out the PC version though, it is better than the original. Original Leon is definitely cooler though. Also, get wiwilzmodding's Cammy mod - It's fucking top tier and perfect for the Seperate Ways playthrough.

demake

>>725640569 (OP)
Yeah I thought it was pretty fucking good. There's a lot the Remake did better than the original and people just absolutely refuse that statement. Remake also mixed the level design up a lot to the point of almost being a new game, so you cant bitch about it being the same game.

The sound design, the gunfeel, and the gore are just levels ahead of the original. The game is so much more visceral and intense then the OG.

>>725644206
Bought it on PC
Even with mods which make the game better like weapon QoL improvements and Dogde mechanics, it's still inferior to the original.
The music is the worst part like the other demakes, completely butchered for Blumhouse generic ambience shit and mediocre remixes in Mercenaries.

>>725640569 (OP)
They butchered my TMP waifu

>>725644787
>RNG bullet spread and stagger
>Better gunplay
lmoa

>>725644787
>and people just absolutely refuse that statement
/v/niggers can barely be considered people.

It was fun, though I still go back to revisit the OG too.
My main gripe with the remake is the fucking bolt thrower WHY
Currently doing a randomiser run on PC.

>>725644826
Gameplay is better and that's what I care about. The original is jank; fun in its own way, but jank.

>>725644914
Literally just adapt and git gud you dumb ass. It's not meant to be like the original, it's a fusion between RE4 and RE2Remake's design.

The biggest criticism I will give about it is the difficulty options are fucked. I bet this anon played above normal on his first playthrough and got seriously buttmad how bullet spongey the enemies are. Thats why hes probably complaining about the stagger

>>725644787
One thing people don't talk about: The Remake is actually scary. Maybe you had a reason to get scared of the regenerators or got accidentally jumpscared in the original, but the game was never scary. Forget about survival or action elements, that is the only sin OGRE4 has against the series: Resident Evil should at least try to be scary. The remake isn't a straight horror game, but RE never was. I thought the remake was a lot more scary than RE2R or Village.

>>725645067
>though I still go back to revisit the OG too.
Why? There's not a single thing it does better.

>>725640569 (OP)
You can mod it but that doesn't mean the devs didn't ship it censored compared to the original.

>>725645132
I enjoy both, just as I enjoy both Ashley models
In terms of best Mercs mode though? RE6

>>725645214
What's censored about it? Are you fucking stupid?

>>725645096
>Adapt
Finished it on Hardcore twice, it feels worse becauss all the enemies are bulletsponges and there's no stats reliabity.
Fuck RNG stats

>>725645132
REmake 1 is better than RE0 in every way but it doesn't make the latter pointless to play.

>>725645132
The OG is better than the remake but that doesn't mean the remake is shit. OG RE4 is an absolute fucking masterpiece but I think RE4 remake is an amazing game that pretty much shits on every other modern third person shooter in the last 10 years.

>>725645295
Objectification of Ashley

>>725645604
Mods exist for a reason, nitpicktard.

>>725645356
They're both boring and not worth playing. Makes them pointless in my book.

>>725645695
What mod makes Luis talk about Ashleys tits?

>>725645718
If you think REmake1 is boring you're so low IQ you droppef out of highschool

>>725645067
The bolt thrower (with mines) could have been a good CC option if it was smaller and faster to fire/reload.
No idea what they were thinking with the regular bolts tho. There's only a handful of encounters that start with stealth.

>>725645132
Here's what the OG did better:
>B Movie Plot
OG Resident Evil is little bit silly. Compare the Remakes to even Re7 or Village, and the Remakes are way more melodramatic (except maybe 3Remake, never played it).
>Characterization is flawed
I say flawed because characters usually get more to do and say, but they don't get be as cool (Leon), as naive (Ashley), as Suave (Luis), as Sexy (Ada), as Silly (Salazar). Though, I think people should admit that Saddler is scarier and Krauser is cooler.
>Pacing/Set Pieces
I don't know how to describe this exactly, but OgRe4 was a fucking rollercoaster ride. There was always another setpiece, another boss, another unique arena, another objective. It's epic in length that I've never felt from any other Resident Evil. Even the other good ones felt like I was left wanting more.

>>725640569 (OP)
incel thread

>>725646413
That accusation doesn't even make sense.

>>725645091
>The original is jank; fun in its own way, but jank.

its a skill thing. it takes years to master the jank some people do some people don't. i can do whole deathless playthroughs now without dying once. almost did a no hit run not to long ago. not there yet

its like going to a dojo a handfull of times and expecting to become a 4th degree black belt. nope its prob gonna take 15+ years of repetitiveness to get to that.

OG RE4 is a action chess game where you need to know a least your next 3 to 5 moves at every moment. you need to be aware of your surroundings and space out moves you master it or you bitch about it thats it.

>>725640569 (OP)
'ate remakes
'ate retcons
'ate parry mechanics
'ate RE engine
'ate youngsters tripping over themselves to spit on anything older than 5 years because of their refusal to face the reality that the limited time they're on Earth happens to be the most creatively bankrupt period in living memory

simple as

>>725643994
>Most pointless remake ever
You now remember the Dead Space remake.

woke

>>725649707
Thin-skinned moron.

>>725649757
reddit

>>725649707
Why are all AAA game devs homosexuals in the 2020s?

>>725640569 (OP)
Yeah, it's better than the OG in almost every way, but Crowbat's retarded ass told contrarians otherwise, and they're incapable of independent thought.

>>725650570
You're a free thinker

>>725645695
I'm not paying for a game that was fixed by players

You can though lol

>>725651003
Every single post you've made ITT reeks of cope.

It's a bad and pointless remake.

>>725651003
>paying for crackedware
But I agree. It doesn't speak well of a game if you need mods to improve it at a baseline. I modded RE4make when I played it to make hitstun consistent (like in the Mercs mode) and I just haven't had the urge to replay it since it came out.

>>725640569 (OP)
If you genuinely think this dog turd of a game is a good game then it speaks volumes about you.

Dozens of epic games have been released this year which far surpasse this unwanted remake slop and yet you put this turd on a pedestal???

>>725640569 (OP)
dumb zoomer

>>725640569 (OP)
It's soulless.

My friend was complaining that this game should have had tank controls, and that it wasn't good because it was another generic shooter. I had to remind him that resident evil 4 never had the fixed camera angles and tank controls of the early games.

>>725651963
No fixed camera angles besides the Ashley segment in the Japanese version, but RE4 still has tank controls. You turn the stick to the left, Leon rotates left in place.

>>725651272
this nigga tweakin

>>725651963
>We're at the point where people are actively whining about the lack of tank controls now
Can't make this shit up.
lol, lmao.

>>725652339
I know this sounds crazy but people did actually like the mainline RE games that came out before 2009.

>>725651963
>I had to remind him that resident evil 4 never had the fixed camera angles and tank controls of the early games.
>never had tank controls

>>725653424
What's the issue here? I don't see it.

>>725640569 (OP)
The people shitposting the hardest and calling it demake or slop are third world shitposters that don't play games. There are a lot of things the original did better, but the gameplay in the remake is fantastic. No, shitters who want guaranteed staggers do not get to have opinions on gameplay.

>>725653751
not him but the transformation was a big let down, and the original scene had more action going on.

>>725654053
Who fucking cares about faggy fucking cutscenes in a video game?

>>725654049
>No, shitters who want guaranteed staggers do not get to have opinions on gameplay.
What's wrong with it?

>>725640569 (OP)
OLD GOOD NEW BAD

>>725650704
surgery hunter is literally a paid capcom shill

you only like it because ahley is hot and you can make her nude

>>725654173
you were the one who asked. I don't hold a grudge over it, but the transformation specifically stood out when I was playing the remake for the first time.

>>725654618
Trivializes the game and makes encounters feel too much like a solved issue. You always need some variety in enemy behavior.

>>725640569 (OP)
>Support the enshitification of your favorite games CHUD
no.

>>725645091
>gameplay is better

False

>>725658542
Post game time

>>725657642
This ruins the way the original game was designed. You were swarmed with huge mobs of enemies, and staggering was your way to control their behavior in a beneficial way. There are FAR less enemies that come at you at the same time with full aggression in the remake because Capcom understood this and chose to make staggering rng regardless.

>>725644787
>gunfeel
what is it with zoomers and inventing retarded childlike synonyms for words that already exist?

>>725644787
>B-but muh graphics
really, nigger?

>>725649707
Is that remake Ada dress real? That is fucking hideous.

>>725659021
The consequences of enforced orwellian newspeak from the crib

>>725658897
Enemy behavior is no different, they still rush and slow down when up close.
What the stagger resistance does is rightfully nerf pistols and make the rest of your arsenal matter more.

>>725659307
Yes. It wasn't even in the game until Seperate Ways DLC because people bitched incessantly that Capcom replaced her dress. They also replaced her VA again with the chick who played her in that awful netflix adaptation.

>>725658897
>You were swarmed with huge mobs of enemies
You sound like another shitposter who didn't play the remake because you're swarmed far more in the remake on just hardcore mode than you were in the original on pro.

>>725651272
kek

>>725658897
If by swarmed you mean they lined up for you to pile drive them sure

>>725640569 (OP)
>mods
you lost

Um.... Anon. I don't know if you this... this game came out 20 years ago and was critically acclaimed. You did not discover anything profound.

>>725659595
It is different, though, if there are more than five enemies coming at you, the rest will just wait their turn unless it's a ganado with a crossbow. It also doesn't nerf pistols because the SG/S9 is still the most ammo efficient weapon in the game because of its critical bonus and the Red9 is still the most ammo efficient damage-per-bullet weapon in the game. All the other handguns were already markedly worse and are now worth using even less. Arguably, in fact, the SG/S9 is in some ways stronger than it was in the original, as while it no longer applies its critical bonus to knife swings or melee attacks, the fact it is one of the few weapons in the game capable of using the laser combined with its critical multiplier just by default makes it one of the strongest weapons period.

>>725659878
You sound like a shitposter who didn't play the original.

>>725640569 (OP)
Even the original wasn't good
It has zero revolutionairy mechanics, literally just a 7/10 forgettable experience

>>725660493
Not true it had back+b

>>725644787
>The sound design, the gunfeel, and the gore
are all worse in the remake you lying piece of trash

>>725660341
critical bonus was giga nerfed to ~25% and while ammo efficient, you're not getting free crowd control with one shot.
And the red9's gigantic reticle bloom makes it a high risk/reward pistol.

>>725642249
>with the only positive change being Krauser
>ROOKIE
>ROOKIE
>ROOKIE
No, it was worse and Jim Ward was the better voice of Krauser.

>>725660996
quick turn?

>>725640569 (OP)
I like it more than the original. The first time I played it, I had to replay it ten times in a row for some reason. It's one of those almost perfect games and any complaints I have are nitpicks. It also runs really well, everything maxed on native res, no fps drops. I only wish Leon would use straps to hang the guns on his body like he did in 2R, I hate when weapons are magic-glued to the models.

>>725640569 (OP)
4og is better gameplay, 4remake is better horror

>>725653424
The og has better direction but the remake has better transition to the fight.

I played re4 for the first time this november. held off for 2 decades kek...and yeah it absolutely did not need a remake. sure, the gameplay may be tighter but it took all the soul out of an already amazingly fun experience.

remakes are for sub 120 IQ zoomers.

>>725641063
>turns into a psych ward
>turns into
Always has been

>>725645112
I think it's for two reasons. First, the game is actually hard, you can't just spam your kicks through everything. And the story actually takes itself seriously, the characters are larger than life, yes, but they are believable. The original is a B movie grindhouse, while the remake feels like a cosmic horror.

Resident Evil 4 is one of those games that has the status of "best game ever" in the eyes of its annoying fanbase which inevitably results in a lot of irrational behaviour regarding the remake. Because any change made in the remake is inevitably seen as blasphemy because it implies that the original did things that could be improved on. But the original is supposed to be perfect!

Not that everything is an improvement mind you. But I'm not about to pretend that QTEs aren't cancer or that having to go into the inventory to change weapons wasn't annoying.

>>725654618
It makes the game too easy. RE4 is easy even on professional because you just kite ganado, fire a single bullet and then kick them for giga damage, repeat until everyone is dead and you swim in ammo. It's braindead. You can't do that in the remake and the professional is actually challenging.

Besides some of the characters and writing being straight up worse than the original, one of my biggest complaints was how annoying the animations for certain things were. For example, when Leon is on fire or even near it, he takes so fucking long to finish his animation that it'll often get you hit again or killed outright. You can't even open your inventory for what feels like ages after the fact either.

>>725640569 (OP)
>This was the one genuinely good game that I played this year
What else have you played?

Is there a mod to remove the yellow paint yet?

>>725660425
I've played both for about 200 hours each. You maybe played the original twice and never played the remake. Your opinions are worthless.

>>725665831
Always has been.

>>725665831
There's been one since day one. It's how I played the game myself. It's laughable how unnecessary the yellow paint was.

>>725666498
only thing is the crates, they designed all of them in mind with the crates you brake having yellow paint all over them. so some of them do look like theyre breakable when they arent

The simple truth is that both the OG and the remake are great games with their own strengths. Simple as

>>725668849
The mod I used had a setting for insignias instead of yellow paint which marked them and looked okay.

>>725665572
A bunch of fucking SHIT

>>725669064
That's why I own both.

>>725669064
Based actual vidya enjoyer.

>>725666130
You didn't, you were wrong, have no argument, and are seething.

>>725654626
ayo hol up Ada has white hair????

>>725640903
Hello newfag.

>>725670659
>seething
Post game time and hand.

>>725658897
>This ruins the way the original game was designed.
Good thing the remake isn't trying to replace the original.

>>725645132
I Will NEVER NEVER FUCKING FORGIVE CAPCOM FOR CUTTING THE CODEC CALLS
THAT WAS THE LITERAL SOUL OF THE GAME

>>725640903
This is why this board needs IDs and flags, that way we can immediately discard opinions because they are too poor to run the game

>>725649707
>dat original ashley
Wood Berry

>>725644787
>and the gore are just levels ahead of the original.
Not really. Leon no longer gets decapitated by the chainsaw dudes in the remake while in the original he does get decapitated by them.

Also in the remake you can't destroy wooden doors like you could in the original. Was satisfying blasting a hole in the wooden door with a shotgun hitting the enemy on the other side.

Remake really stepped back on a lot of little features.

>>725675281
Ganado gore is way better in the remake, but Leon gore is worse in the remake.

>>725640569 (OP)

It's fantastic and most people loved it. Rejects, mentally ill people and losers are just much, much more vocal on an anonymous site

>>725644787
>and the gore are just levels ahead of the original.

>>725675281
I can kick an enemy into the water pump in the village and it'll break in the remake. The remake actually has more little touches, but you didn't play it, you just watch some dumb faggot's video.

>the game made crowbcat go to an insane asylum for months

Best game ever.

I had a blast with remake 4. looking forward to 5 so I can play as my hotwife sheva

I like OG RE4, but the fact that you have to pause the game every time you want to switch weapons is extremely tedious
>you stagger an enemy with your handgun and do a roundhouse kick
>Las Plagas comes out of his head
>you pause the game, equip the shotgun, and shoot ONE TIME
>you pause the game again and equip your regular handgun
It completely kills the flow of combat

>>725675895
>makes remakefags schizo about muh audio
Based

>>725675895
Wait... really?

>>725640569 (OP)
the mods are fun too

>>725645386
>RE4 remake is an amazing game that pretty much shits on every other modern third person shooter in the last 10 years.
It shits on every third person shooter in history that is not Dead Space 2.

>>725678980
I didn't install this mod because I was afraid it would make the game too easy.

>>725663473
that transition to gameplay has been done and nauseam since uncharted 2

>>725680815
I'm not going to shit on something just because it's popular. The transition in the remake is more atmospheric oh shit moment in my opinion. The original is another "okay cutscene time over here is the boss" which is less suitable for a horror game.

>>725645132
i wish remake faggots would fuck off
is playing one of the best action shooters ever made instead of its shitty dingy and sloppy looking remake not reason enough

>>725681618
>i wish remake faggots would fuck off
Post game time to prove you've played it and aren't just a mentally ill shitposting third world child.

>>725662127
Yeah like all of the voice acting, it was either worse or boring, Krauser just sounds like a guy

>>725668849
The breakable crates all used the same asset. Same with the barrels. They were extremely recognisable. No idea how anyone would have trouble spotting them. And even if you somehow did have trouble, they still had the hud arrow that all modern RE games use.

Seriously the yellow paint with RE4 is insane. Literally trying to solve a problem that doesn't fucking exist.

>>725654173
>who cares about the 'video' part of a video game?
Retard

>>725675853
>I can kick an enemy into the water pump in the village and it'll break in the remake.
and what does that mean for the gameplay?

>>725683001
I can throw grenades at the wrecking ball wall to speed up its destruction. Now pretend that doesn't effect gameplay.

>>725640569 (OP)
Never take /v/'s retarded ass opinions seriously, ever. Most of these faggots are obsessed with a visual novel for women instead of playing REAL games.

>>725676958
you could also just not do that? plaga flinch from anything. shotguns don't necessarily have better dps.

>>725681713
it's my webm.

>>725683142
>you could also not have options
Kinda shitting on the original in your own way there.

>>725682581
>Literally trying to solve a problem that doesn't fucking exist
You clearly don't understand also get fucking over it you cry baby bitch. I am not even going to explain to you why the yellow paint is a thing because you are a short term thinker.

>>725683071
2 instances where you can skip a little bit of the game, so funny how this is one of the things people bring up as praiseworthy

>>725640569 (OP)
It's great, but did RE4 really need a remake? Could that bandwidth been spent on an original work?

>>725683314
how is that not having options? you can burst enemies down with any weapon because they're all strong. you also don't have to immediately kill everyone, you're doing crowd control by knocking them back and they're not a threat for a while. switching weapons in re4 takes pretty much the same amount of time as the weapon switching animation takes in RE5.

>>725640569 (OP)
Changing the gameplay to allow Leon to strafe and shoot while moving is fun in its own way, but it also completely changes the gameplay. Since your movement isn't limited anymore, enemies have to have tracking. Since they have tracking, the game has to have invincible dodge and parry states.
Due to this one simple change of NOT limiting the player's movement, the gameplay changes from proactive (positioning, awareness) to reactive (responding to triggers). There's a lot of games now like the latter, not as many like the former.

If it was that good of a change, the system should be able to stand on its own in an original game. The entire idea of remaking RE4 is retarded, so you're automatically retarded for defending it no matter how fun it is.

>>725683313
I believe you're stupid enough to post a webm that shows that the original is unbalanced and think you've somehow made a point.

>>725640569 (OP)
It's normal, you kind can't conceive the idea of heterosexuality.

>>725683505
>2 instances where you can skip a little bit of the game
Off the top of my head, there's shooting the church bell, shooting the guy who releases the dogs, grenading the guy who pulls the bridge level, grenading the wall, grenading the turret, and rocketing the rock throwing giant. These things matter because RE games are built around speed and replays, and only the most retarded of niggerfaggot shitposters who don't actually play games would try to downplay those gameplay affecting mechanics.

>>725640569 (OP)
I want to nitpick here. I hate the way Leon holds his gun in the remake. He doesn't look as cool as he does in the original game. It's a small thing, but it detracts from my enjoyment a little.

>>725683438
>get fucking over it
That's precisely what I did by installing the mod you fool.

I proceeded to not only have absolutely zero problems finding the breakable barrels and crates with the mod installed. Even though it was literally the first time playing the remake. But I even ended up being amazed how easy they were to spot without even needing the hud arrows. The yellow paint couldn't have been more unnecessary.

>>725683850
>how is that not having options?
You just told the anon not to do the thing he wanted to do when playing. That's literally shutting down options. It's easier just to admit that having to go into the menu in og RE4 was annoying.

>>725684864
i believe that the webm was made to show that the animation in the remake looks and feels like cheap mobile dogshit in comparison
>>725685064
not surprised the people enjoying this remake are the same kind of people who love being able to skip the action gameplay in their action games
>>725685363
>You just told the anon not to do the thing he wanted to do when playing.
no, i pointed out that other options exist, that he probably overlooked.
you're also ignoring that weapon switching in RE4 is as fast as you can press the buttons.

>>725686126
Imagine being such a subhuman third world shitskin child that shitposts about games you don't play that you're actually trying to downplay timesaves and routing in an RE game. Just imagine being that much of a subhuman who argues about game series he clearly has less than 0 idea about.

>>725640569 (OP)
Sorry but I will never support the REmakes no matter how many shill threads you make.

>>725686126
>no, i pointed out that other options exist
While trying to turn down the thing the anon wanted to do.

As the other anon said it's about flow not speed. Not having to have things broken up by the game going to the inventory screen mid combat. Plus if you really wanted you could insist on going in the inventory in the remake anyway. Remake simply offered more ways of doing things.

Leon feels like ass to control in the remake, there's that small delay before you start sprinting which can fuck you over sometimes. In the OG you're already at max speed when you start running.

>>725673918
Or you can just go to reddit for that, and stay there while you’re at it.

>>725686387
keep your re1-3 shit out of my linear setpiece oriented action game, thanks. re4 never had and never needed "timesaving" because it didnt have extended boat sections made for God of War fans to begin with (that you "route" lmfao), but more importantly, because it was clearly a different game from the ones that came before it.
>>725686528
ive never cared for real time weapon switching in any re4 offshoots i played honestly, probably subjective but i don't think its actually that important to a game's flow. i understand how its something people just expect to be able to do but still im not convinced its as crucial as its made out to be. i feel more tension during the brief pause when you're switching your weapon and dont have vision of the encounter in re4 than i do when swapping in re5 or re4r, which just feel like nothing. theyre inconsequential to how the game plays out. real time switching *sounds* better but who's to say its actually beneficial to the game when the encounters in re4 almost always end up feeling better paced and more tense than the ones in 5 and 4r anyway.
and the re4 inventory has its benefits. it often ends up incentivizing you to utilize the weapon you have equipped in a different way from what you mightve planned. it might be a shitty way of doing that since it happens because you dont want to pause the game, but nonetheless if you wanted to finish off an enemy with the shotgun but don't want to go into the menu you might look around and notice another enemy coming after you and trip him to start lining them up instead.

>>725691296
>keep your re1-3 shit
Stopped reading there. Your opinions are objectively worthless and nothing you say matters.

>>725651272
dont mind me, just routing this walking section

Barely played this past the village desu. Seems fine but I still need to go back to it.
>doing the village siege on Hardcore (this might be what's keeping me from going back, might restart on Normal and save Hard for replay)
>not sure if you could game the Dr. Salvatore spawn in this one but all the same, didn't want to pussy out
>successfully crowd control until I remember the bell tower effectively being a stronghold and make my way up there
>mfw the twist
Shat bricks

>>725694007
>mfw the twist
There are a lot of sections like that or design motif twists where stuff isn't where you think it's going to be that makes it fun for people that are really familiar with the original game.

>>725642249
Truth nuke
>>725649707
This
>>725649757
Yes anon the SJWs who censored it are thin skinned

>>725680656
you just install other mods to make it harder, like berserker or relentless enemies

>>725684401
>If it was that good of a change, the system should be able to stand on its own in an original game. The entire idea of remaking RE4 is retarded, so you're automatically retarded for defending it no matter how fun it is.
Nah, it needed the remake. Shit is too fucking easy

>>725695761
grenades are... strong?

>>725695976
More like limbs shots are overpowered and kill all the tension even with basic unupgraded weapons

>>725696152
being a functioning game with functioning gunplay is bad and "overpowered" now.

desu this thread has inspired me this weekend imma reinstall and finally finish that professional run. was stuck on the ashley section where you can't fuck up once for like 30 minutes without going back to the cutscene where they get seperated.

also remake ada most sexo women in modern gaming

>>725696475
Yeah, I forgot how much fun I had headshot, melee, slash was. Nah, that shit got boring fast.

>>725696804
that's a problem with your creativity and nothing more.

>>725697104
No, that's the gameplay.

>>725688548
>NOOO I CANT SAMEFAG AN ARGUEMENT!!
Just go to another thread if you get btfo'd

>>725696804
so boring it won goty

>>725640569 (OP)
It's good and Ashley got big milkers under that jacket.

>>725697492
It was so boring and gay, RE5 and RE4R fixed it by giving you melee prompts for down enemies, and nobody complained about it.

>>725697775
must be why they're forgotten

>>725696475
>with functioning gunplay
The gunplay in the remake is better. Making every weapon aim the same and auto-stagger with every shot makes them all feel samey.

>>725698098
RE5 outsold the original and RE4R is straight up better than the original tho.

>>725698098
Is that why RE5 and RE4R outsold RE4?

>>725698472
>>725698489
but how many hamburgers did mcdonalds sell yesterday?

>>725697775
stomping enemies just slows down the gameplay
only an adhd retard would think having it is an objective improvement

>fast and easy way to kill enemies quickly in comparsion to slash... slash... slash... slash... slash... slash *groan*
>the retard community still shits their pants
This is why nobody takes you idiots seriously

>>725695761
Looks fun
>NOOO YOU SHOOT LEGS THEY FALL DOWN
Ok

>>725698472
>>725698489
You both realise that both those games sold better BECAUSE of Re4 being so good right?
Of course you must have, but bringing up sales numbers as if theyre indicative of quality is so retarded that I cant tell

>>725642249
This
It IS a decent game, even an alright RE game, but it IS a terrible demake that completely butchers the tone and atmosphere of the original:
>No "Que carajo estas hacendo aqui? Largate cabron!"
>No cutscene where Salazar has a complete meltdown after Leon cuts his hand with a thrown knife
>No "No thanks, bro!"
>No "You are small time"
Capcom obviously wanted to have the game darker than the original in tone and atmosphere, but did a terrible job at it. In the end, it's just as goofy but a lot duller and without the soul and amusing dialogue.

>>725701139
The original butchered the tne and atmosphere of the original on account of how easy it was 725695761

>>725700985
>You both realise that both those games sold better BECAUSE of Re4 being so good right?
Nah, those games sold so well because they are good games and straight up better than RE4. The only people still saying "BUT RE4" are contrarians and poor people who can't afford modern console with whatever they pay down there in the Brazilian favelas.

>>725701139
>>725642249
>muh demake

You can still play RE4 on your gamecube on your CRT

>>725640569 (OP)
>It's okay that they removed the soul from one of the most beloved game classics of all time, because you can try to return some small slivers of that soul back to it by using unofficial, unsupported and borderline illegal mods

No, I don't find that satisfactory.

>they removed the soul... by making a better RE4
LOL

>>725653424
Unironically would have been kewl if they remade that cutscene into gameplay. Like how they did for the Krause fight. Shooting a red barrel would have proceeded to the 2nd phase of the chief boss

>>725662127
They added a tragic backstory to Krauser providing more context to why he did what he did and fleshing out his relationship with Krauser, I agree with the voice actor, they're all terrible outside Leon and Ashley.

>>725701838
First time I played it was on a PS2 on a Plasma TV.
I'm no purist, I just say it how it is you fucking faggot corporate cocksucker.
The remake is significantly worse than the original in terms of presentation and even gameplay.

>>725644191
>Re4R is that RE4 is still the king of Action Horror.
this
>Getting back to the remake: it's greatest detractors can only claim it's not as good as OGRE4. I've never seen them claim any other game was better than Re4R.
Agree with everything, great comment. RE4 is a videogame giant and the remake is close to it, awesome games.

>>725702504
>Worse music
>Worse characters
>Worse gameplay
>Worse gameplay
RETURN TO FORM JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL CAPCOM PLS HIRE ME SO I CAN KISS SPHEREHUNTER!!!

>>725640903
This post should be stickied in every thread on /v/ because it summerizes 90% of threads that discuss video games.
Solve this issue by range IP ban on Brazil.

>>725686126
You are retarded kek.

NOOO, MISTER PRESIDENT DON'T CLICK THAT LIIIIINK!!!
https://files.catbox.moe/ojmsqy.jpg

>>725701512
Regardless of how you feel about gameplay changes, this doesn't invalidate any of my claims that they completely fucked up the rest, especially the characters and dialogue. There was no reason to change any of that, it took lots of balls (of the retarded kind) to remove even the most iconic dialogue lines and cutscenes from the OG, some of which wouldn't even really oppose the darker tone they were going for.
It's not even consistent. Take the trader for example. Considering the demake wants to be darker and more realistic, it didn't make any sense to keep him like in the OG (the trading / upgrading system could remain but in a different presentation, maybe drones or machines thrown around by the US government).
The demake is a complete creative clusterfuck and very inconsistent, overall.

>>725644191
>is that RE4 is still the king of Action Horror
Except the remake did a better job of this.

Why demakes suck so bad?

>>725702832
> complete creative clusterfuck and very inconsistent, overall.
But that's literally the original my dude.

>>725702881
>Except the remake did a better job of this.

Examples?

>>725702823
Okay, I'm sold. Buying now.

>>725703083
Better bosses and enemies.

>>725644206
What's there to mod if you're not a gooner or need to play as le ebin John Wick or CJ?
I did a genuine dive on Nexus mods and couldn't find anything of worth.

>>725702832
The merchant doesnt fuck up the darkiness and realism of the remake.
>drones or machines thrown around by the US government
Lame as fuck lol.

>>725640903
And they are fucking retarded too.

>>725698265
Shooting a zombie and not getting any feedback feels unsatisfying. They should always react to getting hit.
Making it unpredictable is gay modern slot machine style game design.

>>725703882
>They should always react to getting hit.
Except they do that in the remake as well, and it's even better too.

>>725703258
Fuck no

>>725704080
But enough about the original RE4.

>>725702832
>maybe drones or machines thrown around by the US government
That manages to be even stupider than having a teleporting merchant, the game is still set in the early 2000s and they lose contact with Leon half-way through, how would the money and treasures even come in to it

>>725704129
look at that terrible animation when it gets shot. this demake has jeet all over it

>>725701638
>resorts to brownoid insults
Why are you remake fags like this? I like 5 and Remake 4 btw, but they both sold more off the back of Re4 being such an acclaimed game

>>725640569 (OP)
I'm replaying it now, it still has some issues but it's a pretty solid B+ game.

>>725651963
Jesus Christ, >>725640903 was right, you retards don't actually play the games, just complain about them.

>>725703882
i was complaining about this to my re-loving friend: shooting a zombie in the head 10+ times is neither fun nor satisfying. if its skull is still intact after that, it's probably more lead than brains. i'm literally playing a superhero who can survive getting manhandled by 10-foot mutant monsters, but I can't even crush a zombie's skull after downing it with my nerf gun, i have to fucking finish it off with fucking foam darts, and if i don't, it'll grab my twig ankles and murder me. who the fuck thought that would be fun? re demakes are slop.

>>725705140
kek

>>725703882
>Making it unpredictable is gay modern slot machine style game design.
Making it unpredictable isn't modern, it's how the RE games older than 4 did it, you stupid fake oldfag.

>>725695761
Don't care the shooting is more fun in OG

>>725698975
no one is doing that, tard
if you cared about speed you wouldn't be doing either of the slow options in either game

>>725707231
>no one is doing that, tard
Literally everyone was doing that

this game gets more discussion than any other recently released single player only game. legit seen a thread about this every other day. RE4 remake Chads won. It's a classic.

>>725705978
It wasn’t “unpredictable,” it was jank as hell. The OG games had legit RNG baked into whether zombies would flinch or keep walking like they ate a bullet sandwich for lunch. That’s not “tension,” that’s "we didn't quite figure out hit reactions yet." At least RE4 nailed that balance with predictable flinches and limb-targeting, and literally everyone copied that after. You're coping if you think zombie sponge mechanics in the remakes are some genius callback.

>>725709320
>It wasn’t “unpredictable,” it was jank as hell.
No, you're just shit at games.
>The OG games had legit RNG baked into whether zombies would flinch
Wrong. You can always stagger them.
>That’s not “tension,” that’s "we didn't quite figure out hit reactions yet."
You're a fucking retard who understands less than nothing about game design.
>At least RE4 nailed that balance with predictable flinches and limb-targeting
No, the balance was a problem. The game was too easy, especially if you've played it more than once. Even the village fight on professional mode is a joke because you can stagger and sweep up groups so easily and always sprint away.

The game becomes great with mods. The graphics still suck ass though, actually displeasing to look at. Plus the randomizer with at least 2 times the enemies because on a vanilla game these mods would be a bit much.
https://www.nexusmods.com/residentevil42023/mods/2725
https://www.nexusmods.com/residentevil42023/mods/4950
https://www.nexusmods.com/residentevil42023/mods/2479
https://www.nexusmods.com/residentevil42023/mods/496
https://www.nexusmods.com/residentevil42023/mods/2102
https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/rqqp/mods?gameId=5195
https://www.nexusmods.com/residentevil42023/mods/5215

>>725702832
>Take the trader for example
One of my biggest issues with the remake is how they went way overboard on the merchants dialogue
Dude never shuts the fuck up and they tried way too hard to make him even quirkier in the remake
He was odd but simple in the original

>>725702832
The remake is hardly darker than the original, there's still plenty of camp, and Luis and Salazar are both much better characters (Salazar's looks aside). You're a retard, but that was a given seeing as you use the word demake.

>>725710818
I can understand Luis but Ill never get Salazar. Hes just so nothing in the remake and he barely directly interacts with Leon in the remake.
Og Salazar is incredibly memorable, meanwhile I struggle to remember any remake Salazar moments and I played Remake like two weeks ago. He talks to you in the lobby (no 'no thanks bro' though) yaps to you over the intercom a couple times and then you fight him
Hes just worse overall

>>725711065
>but Ill never get Salazar
He has more characterization through his dialogue, through notes you find, and then finally in the boss fight music.
>Hes just worse overall
If your only metric is how many times he says something that Leon responds to with a funny quip, sure.

>>725654173
kys

The VR version is so fucking awesome. Once you play that it really is just how it was meant to be played. Capcom is the one company putting actual effort into their VR support.

>>725711213
>If your only metric is how many times he says something that Leon responds to with a funny quip, sure.
I mean yes those were all far more memorable and fun than what we get in the remake
The only note I can really remember is about him feeling shame his ancestors locked away Los Plagas which is also in the original

I've played the remake twice. It's fucking dogshit compared to the original. Don't @ me. Night faggots.

>>725711347
They traded funny quips for some actual development. If you don't get the nuance behind his boss music and dialogue, then I can't help you.

>>725711441
I just dont really know if it resulted in a deeper character though
And if it did it doesnt really matter because he barely shows up now compared to the original
Who in their right mind anyway thought that Resident fucking Evil of all franchises needed a nuanced and serious story? Seems like a retarded idea from the start.

>>725712586
>And if it did it doesnt really matter because he barely shows up now compared to the original
It does matter because of the artistry in how it comes together for the boss fight. It's a video game, so the more elements you combine the better. Dialogue, audio cues synced up to gameplay, and the gameplay itself.
>Who in their right mind anyway thought that Resident fucking Evil of all franchises needed a nuanced and serious story?
You've created some dichotomy in your head with things can be "serious and mature and dark" or "silly and fun". That dichotomy doesn't exist, and pretending it does is fundamentally severely retarded.

>>725712990
>It does matter because of the artistry in how it comes together for the boss fight.
Remake shills are really huffing their own farts now huh

>>725713087
Quiet down, shitskin child. You're not a real person and you don't get to pretend your opinions matter. Do some reading up on music and why that boss fight's track is impressive and then you can come back and pretend your contributions to the conversation matter. I've played both versions of the game more than you ever will. You're just here to shitpost about remakes because of some demented, misguided principle and not because you actually play games.

>>725713270
>Quiet down, shitskin child
Instantly resorting to the brownoid accusations I see. Im noticing a pattern with you fragile Remake defenders here.

>>725713270
No Ive played both too and I think the remake does some things quite well too, like Luis. I just dont think Salazar is one of them and no amount of
>urm its actually art you Brazilian retard
will convince me otherwise
Both games have merit, Ive played and enjoyed both immensely, but the remake simply isnt just better in every way