Thread 725668492

With the announcement of the Steam Machine, there's one big question left unanswered: How much will it cost? We may not know that answer for a while, but we can talk about how much you would be willing to pay for it.

Here's a range of prices to choose from:
>$300
>$400
>$500
>$600
>$700

Here are the specs:
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine

>>725668492 (OP)
Consoles are sold at a loss so I guess the price will be around the same as an oled steam deck.

this shit is worse than my current PC and i have some old ass hardware.
wouldn't pay more then $300 for this.

>steam frame price survey
$1,500 - $2,000

will this run EU5

>>725669080
LOL

>>725669080
at 480p, yes

>>725669080
Pretty sure it will run Europa Universalis V.

>>725668492 (OP)
$500-$600 at most or its DOA

>>725668492 (OP)
> For Gamers Nexus they said "it will not be priced as console but as an entry level computer"
???

>>725669467
lol good luck.

SIX HUNDRED NINETY-NINE US DOLLARS

umm what the fuck is this?

>>725669540
Basically consider it a pre-built PC.

>>725668492 (OP)
>16GB RAM + 8GB VRAM
meanwhile the shittiest strix halo mini pcs ship with like 128GB LPDDR5

>>725668492 (OP)
>a prebuilt linux desktop
its going to be >700. If it wasnt id actually reccomend to it people over a console, or just people that need a cheap prebuilt computer. Its going to run into the exact same issue as the previous steam machine, which is why would I buy one for myself when I already own a pc?

>>725668492 (OP)
>amd gpu
>low vram
>low ram

>>725668492 (OP)
300€ and it's an instant buy

Nice half life 3 announcement you fucking fags

Valve drones should be perma banned

>>725668492 (OP)
can I use steam OS like a regular computer? My laptop is really old and doesn't run much anymore.

>>725670840
Yes, they even say so on the page. SteamOS is just a Linux distro after all.

>>725668492 (OP)
Steam Deck's 420€ and if you replace the CPU with a much more common 7640U, remove the screen, battery and controls (if it doesn't ship with a controller) you could offset the cost of a bad yield 7600 and 8 gigs of GDDR6. My bet's at most 500€ and if the fat prick actually gets it under 400€ I'll buy it and replace my PC

>>725668492 (OP)
For 8gb vram, 16gb ram, and a gay cpu, I would pay 300 to 350 earth credits

>>725668492 (OP)
$800 is my guess.

>>725670489
wait, is this suppose to be the announcement that "overshadows GTA6"?

>>725670131
>muh vram
its targeting 1080p with no RT. 8gb is more than enough

>>725668492 (OP)
$1200

>>725671161
absolute cope, in like a year new games will be unplayable on it

>R5 7600 equivalent?
>RX 7600 equivalent?
>16GB DDR5
>Prebuilt
$800, but could be more honestly.

>>725668492 (OP)
I have a 4070ti super, wtf am I supposed to do with this? Who is this even for?

>>725671493
The same people who bought Steam Machines.

>>725668492 (OP)
If it comes with a controller then $400 is a fine price I think.

>>725671493
People who don't waste their money on overpriced GPUs (such as the 4070ti Super).

>>725671539
So no one?

if Valve is smart they sell this at a competitive price comparable to the PS5/SeX. Get as many people onto Steam as they can.

If they're really really smart, they'll sell it at the same price as a Series S

>>725671745
bingo

>>725668492 (OP)
>CPU: AMD Zen
>GPU: AMD RDNA3

>>725671442
no they wont, retard. you are a dumb nigger brainwashed by AItranny propaganda. you dont know what you are talking about.

>>725668492 (OP)
specs seem equivalent to the base ps5 so my guess its going to be $500

>>725671716
>overpriced GPUs (such as the 4070ti Super).
I bought it for $600 on black friday last year. Why are normalfags so fucking dumb? This shit is gunna cost like $800.

I'd pay up to $800 for it but I doubt it'll be less than $1K, so it's gonna wind up flopping worse than the 'eck.

Can I at least install Linux on it?

>>725671716
Poorfag LOL

500 for the 512GB
700 for the 2TB

>>725671854
Is that bad? I don't know computers

>>725669467
At 600 dollars you might as well buy a PS5 or an Xbox.

>>725671910
all right man have fun, but dont cry when you cant run the latest aaa slop because it eats 12gb vram and 32gb ram by default

>>725672039
It's already running Linux so obviously.

>>725668492 (OP)

Needs to be 599 $ to sell well. It's going to be 799 $ and flop.

Weaker and power limited radeon 7600 with 8gb vram is a joke for 2025.

>>725668492 (OP)
Since it's got no usb4 I wouldnt pay any higher than 300. It will likely be more than that just from the weight of the metal heatsink though.

>>725668492 (OP)
i could see it sell if its price of a steam deck, i just dont see how is valve going to make money out of this

>>725671910

This has GPU weaker than 7600 non XT.

>>725672140
the whole specs is absolute mid grade

>>725672149
sure man. make sure to kill yourself in a year when the latest 2026 ue5 slop can still run at low-med 1080p on 6gb of vram

>>725671854

Ryzen 7600 is still decent. But that GPU is trash. It's going to run FSR3 performance at 1080p LMAO

>>725668492 (OP)
Put it at this way. What is the price of a PC with a comparable specs than that? If the price of the Steam console is the same as that PC it is DOA.
If it is 600 you might as well buy a PS5 or a XBX.

>>725671493
it's for the poorfags who are still chugging along on 1080ti's and 2060s
you can probably also use it as a gateway drug to pc for a local consolefag

>>725672456
>can still run at low-med

And look worse than 2010 games on those settings with 540p internal res.

>>725672516
They said it's about 800$ in components. If they want to sell it for 800$ it's DOA

>AMD
Damn I can't train my NN on it the .

>>725668492 (OP)
>click link
>see this
>instantly lose all interest
Piracy is the only morally correct way nowadays

>>725672381
>mid grade
so ps5 and xbox series x

>>725671161
Literally proclaims 4K60fps, stop coping.

If this thing manages to be the same price or cheaper than the Switch 2 then they might make a profit albeit a marginal one.

>>725672516
This.
The Steam cube is supposed to compete with current gen consoles, right? If the price does not match with them they lose.

>>725672882
so it might compete with 5 year old hardware

>>725672882
Yes but they came out years ago.

>>725668492 (OP)
Those RGB lights could be better, but it looks pretty cool

>>725672369
That benchmark is on the highest possible setting. This is meant as a console competitor not a max spec PC, and consoles usually are close to the medium settings.

>>725672980
I doubt it can be 450 dollars unless they decide to lose money. RAM prices are skyrocketing now.

$300 or under, probably insta buy.
$300-400, might buy depending on what we find out about it.
$400+, it depends.
I'm already pretty invested into steam and the pc ecosystem in general, so it's appealing. Most of my gaming time is spent on /v/ complaining about modern games, so if it can run a browser and the games I already have, then I should be set for a while.
My big gripe with steam deck and the reason I haven't bought one, is repairabity, specifically the battery being glued to the screen. If the gabecube has a similar repairability limitation, I might skip it.

>>725672149
What's it like working for Nvidia?

>>725673194
It's weaker than PS5 Pro. It needs to be like 500$ to make any sense.

Deck could get away with lower settings because screen was tiny. This will use normal 1080p monitors. And some poor retards will try to use it with 1440p or 4k.

>>725672858
Is it two guys or is right just a manly female?

>>725672971
with FSR. 8gb is plenty for native 1080p no RT
this is an indisputable fact

>>725673237
Zero chance it's 450 I'd say 599 at minimum.

>>725668492 (OP)
It could be $1000 and it would still be a better deal than buying a swish 2

>>725672369
whats your point retard? the bottleneck is raster not vram. look at your cherry picked unoptimized tranny game chart again.

the 5060ti 8gb and 16gb get the same fucking performance you dumb nigger.

>>725672742
>800 dollars.
More than DOA. The specs are around current consoles, aren't they? The price has to be at most the same as a PS5. That means they have to sell it at loss.

>>725673435
AMD literally gives you more vram at same price the fuck are you smoking?

>>725673435
nvidia is doing the exact same market segmentation vram jewishness
all im saying is if you buy a gpu with 8gb vram then dont expect it to last

>>725668492 (OP)
Steam Deck launched at $399 for the basic model, I expect this to be the same, maybe a little more for a controller bundle

>>725668492 (OP)
SIX HUNDRED DOLLAS AINT SHIT

>>725672149
>AAA games in 2000+25
I don't play anything past 2016

How interesting.
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>>725669467
No way it's not 800+
Ram prices are on the rise again too

>>725668492 (OP)
It's supposed to be able to stream VR games, it's going to be at least 799.

>>725668492 (OP)
>$300
Not happening
>$400
Possible but unlikely. This is the sweet spot for it to convince normalfags.
>$500
As high as it can go and still have appeal. The biggest issue is it lacks big name anticheat games but you can also put W11 on it, so the amount of support it has with dualboot (and whether they even need it) will make or break recommending it to poorfag friends.
> <$500
DOA

AItrannies:
>8gb is not enough to gen my personalized gay porn!!!
Also AItrannies:
>wtf i need to enable AI upscaling to get 4k60fps???? gaming is dead!!!

make it make sense

>>725673657
Yeah have fun with vram usage going up year after year. And in this game it's not even high there are far worse offenders. Battlefield 6 on max settings wants 13gb at 1080p.

>>725673838
They would actually put Sony, Microsoft, and Nvidia out of business considering it has something equivalent to a $1200 GPU (RTX 4060) in it.

6x the ‘eck price

>>725674131
Only retards game at 4k.

>>725674131
8gb is fine for genning images.

$299 or $399 would be pretty appealing. If the ps6 drops at $599 or $650 you definitely want to be under $500.

>Weaker than PS5 and Xbone
>Maybe even weaker than Switch 2 depending on custom dev builds
>VR shilling when it's already a dead platform
>Can't play anti-cheat games

It's going to have to be $500 at most or else even normies will question, "Why not just get a PS5 instead?"

>>725669825
Strix Halo's IGP is 40CUs and the cheapest device you can find it in is over $1700 USD

>>725674139
now show the vram usage on a card that doesn't have 32gb available.

gabe has the money to bribe the right people, RAM won't be a problem

>>725674276
Hey, fag, The Switch2 is literally nowhere near this powerful
Just look at TPU instead of being a retard

>>725674221
4060 costs around 300$. And this has power limited 7600 it's going to be much weaker than 4060. And without DLSS. Or even FSR4.

>>725673529
>600$
so its DOA, brand new pc with current shit ram prices and similar specs costs around 730$
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tyjdKq
and its not dead platform you can change cpu to 9800x3d and GPU in few years

>>725673024
Isn't the steam deck technically sold at a loss too, or at least when it was released?

To the anons saying less than 399: That price is impossible considering current price of the components.

>>725674250
Gotta keep in mind if this is trying to break into the home console market they all target 4k as only a small minority use monitors or small TV’s. With how cheap 55” 4k is today it’s hard finding a TV smaller that’s not missing a bunch of features.

>>725674475
>Instant jeet seethe out of nowhere

>>725673838
>I expect this to be the same

Why? Brain damage? That's a ridiculously unreasonable price to expect them to sell it for.

>>725674392
You can watch a million youtube videos with 8gb cards getting horrible 1% lows or texture loading issues. There is more to gaming than average fps.

>>725674276
>>Maybe even weaker than Switch 2 depending on custom dev builds
Kek the Shitch Poo trades blows with the 3 year old Steam Deck in handheld and it can't even perform as well as a Series S in docked. Stop the "Switch 2 is powerful!!" meme.

GG Sony/Microsoft.

They said on Gamers Nexus that it will cost as much as an entry level PC, so 700-900 bucks. No one is buying this besides reviewers.

>>725674552
Yeah raw cost of components is around 600-700$. But this is using older 5nm and 6nm chips so it could be attractive once prices of 4nm+ go to the moon.

>>725673054
>>725673093
And at some point, do they say they want to be better than those consoles?
To have a competitive price, it has to have hardware that is on par, and even then, because it uses Linux and is a PC, it beats the closed system of current consoles by a long shot

>>725675006
The BOM is not any higher than an equivalent laptop, and tons of similarly specced laptops sell for a solid profit at $900

>>725674617
i dont doubt theres unoptimized shit games and retards trying to play them at maxed settings
that still doesn't make 8gb "not enough" or vram numbers in general a good measure of performance

>but *MY* pc is m-
no one cares about your $5000 techcel lego firehazard

>>725675149
8gb is borderline playable now, but are you buying hardware to change it every 2 years? Next gen consoles are launching in 2027. Good luck with 8gb then.

And this is using RDNA3 that sucks at RT when next gen consoles are all pushing RT.

>>725674552
valve could subsidize the cost since they don't even need this venture to be profitable if they wanted to. (i know they won't)

you guys do realize that vavle can get chips from AMD at below retail price right? $300 is never happening but $400-500 is possible. Any price above a ps5 is DOA and valve knows that

>>725675485
It's 16GB no? Not bad, but already the bare minimum with UE5 games so I'm not sure what the fuck Valve is thinking.

>>725674552
That price is the only price that would convince people to buy it when it's using entry-level specs

>>725675485
still havent explained why the 8gb and 16gb cards are getting the exact same performance in that chart you posted

golly i wonder why that is! maybe vram isnt the magic bottleneck AI trannys told you it was?

>>725669353
Erm...how is 480p to 4k upscaling these days...

>>725675507
but whats the point, its not like they will be making that money back from steam-store/ extra mp fee or selling overpriced games to Sony cucks

>>725675813
It has 16gb system ram, so DDR4 or DDR5. That's not for games. It has 8gb GDDR6 for games. 8gb wouldn't be so bad if it was a 1080p machine but they're marketing it with 4k buzzwords and there's no way in hell anyone's running the vast majority of modern games at 4k high textures with 8gb. RT requires a ton of vram too. The consoles have about 12gb memory dedicated to games which is far more than 8gb and even then they still use lower texture quality and assets.

>>725675961
They could do it the other way around. Sell it at a slight profit margin and sweeten the pot with steam gift cards and exclusive cosmetic features for the steam profile.

>>725675802
what are you even babbling about? amd walked back on that. also their windows drivers has nothing to do with linux.

>>725675961
>its not like they will be making that money back from steam-store
running the storefront is extremely profitable for valve, I don't see any reason they wouldn't sell this at a minor loss to get more people into their own ecosystem

>>725668492 (OP)
It doesn't matter, buying it outside the USA will be cost prohibitive anyway.

>>725668492 (OP)
>8gb vram
>Less powerful than 7600
This thing needs absolutely stellar pricing to be worth a damn. But
>300
>400
>500
Are not happening in this economy.
Even eeking out 600 entry point price would be difficult in current RAM+NAND prices.
>>725671716
Fucking KYS instead of shitting up here with retarded takes coping favelafag

>>725676150
You can allocate system RAM for gaming right? If it's running Linux it probably won't need more than 8GB RAM. Not ideal, but still workable.

>>725676225
>amd walked back on that
You mean Tomshardware run a BS PR article running cover for them by distorting the vague non-answer they give to the pushback.
>also their windows drivers has nothing to do with linux.
That is true though.

>>725675485
Oh no consoles with 0 games what will I ever doo

>>725676475
System ram and video ram aren't the same thing. One is significantly slower and has less bandwidth than the other. If you run out of video ram and the game has to use system ram you'll get massive performance degradation. And Linux or not doesn't change the fact many modern games, especially at 4k, use over 8gb of vram. Some games don't even expose entire settings in the menu if you don't have at least 12gb vram like indiana jones. Even putting all that aside, the GPU in the steam machine is dogshit and is built on the same architecture that was widely panned as being dogshit when it released like 3 years ago.

>>725676638
>You mean Tomshardware run a BS PR article
No the BS was every clickbait outlet repeating the same incorrect story from the get go. RDNA1 and RDNA2 GPUs are still supported in mainstream Adrenaline drivers, they still receive bugfixes and game specific patches. They just won't receive newer features like FSR4 and other things directly related to newer arch.
>bb-b-b-but not full support!!!!!11!!!
You are a shit eating retard.

>>725669067
Valve said it would cost less than the Index.

>>725676638
https://www.amd.com/en/blogs/2025/continued-support-for-every-radeon-gamer.html

>>725674541
the 399 entry level one was sold at cost

>>725668492 (OP)
>Xbox is out
>GabeCube is in
I like it desu /v/ros. I am a PS5/Switch enjoyer/owner here and don't even have a Steam account but I am glad to see Microsoft fail and for Steam to come in as competition for the home console market. We need competition its healthy. Just not competition from Microsoft.

>>725676942
Nice cope bro. Whatever helps you sleep at night with your RX 6600, Rajeesh.

>>725673875
GIT ALL THE INDIES WITH THA STEAM OS

>>725677272
I am literally posting from a machine with an Nvidia GPU. I have always worked with AMD's integrated graphics, but all of my discrete cards have always been Nvidia, all the way back to a FX 5700 LE

Try getting invited to a developer summit like I did, shitskin. Oh wait, you can't.

Here is my price
>$0
I'm just not gonna buy it. I don't feel represented as the target audience.
Valve will have to make due with fecaloid old women, xisters, middle aged spics and jeets.

>>725668492 (OP)
It will be less than a ps5 pro, if it's the price of the switch 2 I will never stop laughing. Valve could give those for free as they will make the money back from the store sales.

>>725677616
Valve will never sell at a loss
this thing is $600+

>>725669825
Ram is pointless in Linux anon
>>725672106
That would be a good case
>>725672178
Yeah that 8gb wasn't a very good option
>>725674067
They can do a 600 dollars, since the ps5 have no games and xbox is out of business, more than that is DOA

The VR headset will be >2k isn't it?

>>725668492 (OP)
I have
>PC (7800X3D/4070)
>Steam Deck
>Switch 2
I want this so badly but the rational part of my brain is telling me no.
I've always wanted a bespoke SFF console like PC with its own controller but how can I justify buying this when I have a PC that's more powerful?
Maybe I'll sell some of my stuff and buy it next year if it's level with console prices ($500 at most). If not I'll wait for the Deck 2 then my PC gets put in the attic and forgotten or sold.

with current ram and disk prices this thing is going to cost too much

>>725668492 (OP)
$599 probably

>>725678059
Just get the Steam Frame and use the wireless dongle on your current rig.
Frame will probably work with the Deck too.

>>725677946
no, but it will be between 1k and 1,500

>>725671493
>this is not for me

Exactly, you already own a PC.
They want more people using PC, Steam Machines are for people who just want to sit down and play.

>>725668492 (OP)
$500-$600 would be nice, up to $700 would be reasonable

>>725668492 (OP)
It's going to be $800+ guaranteed.

>>725671010
+ tax + tip, so $1000 minimum out of pocket.

>>725668492 (OP)
A steam machine will cost three steam machines.

>>725671493
>Who is this even for?
3rd world, letting your kid having access to your library while not using your pc, second machine in living room,...

What I would do if I was valve, is lock some CS2 lobbies behind this machine and hardware ban the cheaters, it would make cs2 the only fps without cheaters on the market (in steambox lobbies at least)

>>725668492 (OP)
>GPU equivalent to a 4060
No more than $500

>>725668492 (OP)
It needs to be $500 but it will be priced at $800 before tax. Everything they announced today you will find them priced at least 25% higher than they should be.

The specs are weaker than a PS5. Anything more than 500 dollars is already pushing it. 600 is doa.

In the video it said its as powerful as 6 steam decks; 6x400 = $2400. Most consoles are sold at a huge loss...
So somewhere $1200-$2400

>>725668492 (OP)
It's more powerful than even sexbox. I'd throw $500 at it if I didn't already just finish my custom build 3 months ago. I'm more interested in the new steem controller

>>725678808
Devilish bait, anon

Everyone suggesting under $700 is fucking oblivious

Just buy the retroid pocket 6.

>>725678235
>just buy a VR headset that is the exact same price if not more
No way bro.

>>725679386
Same price as what? The shit you already own?
Why ever buy anything then

449 USD I'm calling it

>>725679773
>>725679773
>Same price as what?
The Steam Machine. If Frame is around the Index prices then that doesn't make it any more affordable than the Steam Machine.
>The shit you already own?
I don't think I'll ever bother with VR. Useless gimmick for gooners.

>>725680180
You already have a more powerful computer than the Steam Machine. What's the point in buying one?

>>725679209
It is x86 too or still shitty arm?

>>725680308
it's literally just a 3 year old phone with integrated gamepad, that poster is indian, please understand

>>725668492 (OP)
If it's less than $1,000 I will buy it no questions no problem

>>725680540
never mind. what the fuck is this.

>>725668492 (OP)
>how much you would be willing to pay for it
Zero, because I'm not buying it. Not because there's anything wrong with it, but because I already have a very powerful TV, and I have a cable running from it to my TV so with the push of a button I can switch between playing at my desk or from my sofa. There's no need for me to buy this thing.

The new console is for the console crowd, not for people already playing on PC.

>>725680671 (ME)
*Very powerful PC

>>725680647
Marketing aimed at modern-day Americans, chuddie.

>>725670840
It's Arch. So yes.

I only have a steam deck with no other computer
should I look into buying this?

>>725671493
What I EXPECT is that the OS running on this thing (SteamOS? Are they still doing that?) is going to be gutted to hell so the performance is actually much higher than you'd expect for the hardware since Windows 11 isn't gobbling up 30% of the system resources with shit like Cortana and Gamebar.

We'll just have to wait and see.

>>725680291
>You already have a more powerful computer than the Steam Machine. What's the point in buying one?
I did the math and it would cost me more money to convert my existing PC to SFF than it would be to buy a PS5. I use it as a HTPC connected to a TV. Staring at a giant black brick is fucking annoying. Hauling it around is even more annoying. Even getting to the ports when in enclosed spaces is annoying because I have to lift and turn the thing. At this point I'd rather downgrade and sell it off. I don't use the power anyway and it's only a 4070. Most of my time is spent playing anime coomer games these days. I play AAA very rarely. Even my Steam Deck has enough power for me, I only ever desired more power when playing certain UE5 games like Silent Hill f or MGS Delta.

>consolelfags now have access to a PC equivalent of a console
Fuck man. This ain't good MasterRace bros.

>>725668492 (OP)
I think context matters a lot. For me, as someone with a full-sized PC, there's no way I'm switching to this any time soon. If it had some drive bays, maybe, but 2TB and SD Cards is not gonna cut it (and no, I consider running games off a NAS to be in a similar boat).

However, if it's $500, I'd genuinely kick it around as an option for something I could take on the go. The local game shop has TVs you're free to use, and this would be perfect for doing computer game nights there, or a fighting game tourney.

>All these posters saying they don't need PCs because they already have PCs
You're literally the breakfast meme

>>725668492 (OP)
where's the poal?
>https://poal.me/kcarxf
https://poal.me/kcarxf
>https://poal.me/kcarxf
sirs we must poll

>>725680868
Depending on the pricepoint, yes. My girlfriend's in the same boat, and I've told her the exact same thing. It's roughly the size of a gamecube, and able to do 4k at a good framerate? If it's like, a little more expensive than a PS5, goddamn good option.

>>725668492 (OP)
considering the steam deck prices, we are fucked, this will be 800$

>>725675138
That should've been me

500$ or bust.

>>725681205
I wanted to get a full fledged desktop eventually but the effort involved in picking out what I wanted and the massively inflated prices kept putting me off

Why should I care, even if it's 500$ it'll cost 800$ or more in my shithole.

>>725678059
I have those as well (different GPU on PC) and I'm also tempted. I haven't touched my Deck in a year since I only care for Nintendo games in handheld and the Deck is kinda annoying to play Docked. I shouldn't get a GabeCube but I want one anyway for easier TV play.

>>725668492 (OP)
>Zen 4 CPU
>RDNA 3
>8GB VRAM
>No HDMI 2.1
This should be priced at $399 MAX for the base model. What the fuck is Valve thinking? Did Gaben's brain rot because he spends most of his time on his fucking yacht?

>>725668492 (OP)
As a console scrub, it’s too little, too late in the gen. Charge $1000 for something that can hang with the PS6, or charge $300 for a boosted deck without a screen. It’s still a cool device around $500, but I can’t see myself ever buying one unless I vowed to abandon mainstream consoles

>>725671493
Families/second machine is the living room/basement. I have a 7900 XTX but my PC is in my bedroom, this would be good for playing AA games on the basement TV.

>who are we to tell you how to use your computer ?
steam / valve are somehow simultaneously immensely based and also gay as fuck.

>>725681213
I'd cope under the idea that manufacturing something like the Steam Deck is inherently more expensive to produce than one of these mini-PCs. Like you can get one in a NUC form factor with a genuinely solid CPU for only $200-$300. The Steam Machine also benefits from being a lot stockier than other mini-PCs, so there's genuine hope.

>>725681213
Lmao yeah.
Expect at minimum 549 dollars if they want to sell it at loss. At that price I would prefer a PS5.

It's lower spec than your PC because it doesn't have to run a bloated piece of shit OS along with your games anymore.

>>725668492 (OP)
My guess about their strategy would be the following:
>the Steam Deck was made to challenge the expanding PC handheld market that was not that greatly organized
>the Deck probably was on par with their expectations
>now they're marketing this more towards the console audience, as to entice them to join an already big platform (a lot of games are here, and they also transfer from generation to generation of consoles, while Sony, MS and Nintendo work a lot to uphold backwards compatibility)
As PC enthusiasts it doesn't make any sense, but as someone who only wants to dip into the ecosystem, it is much more strramlined and looks way more friendly, and given the Windows shenanigans, this may just as well either put a dent into the Xbox and Windows brand, or be a massive flop. Tbh, I only care more about VR, hope they fixed that in Linux.

>>725668513
>AMD CPU
ew

the best thing about this is steamOS

>>725671493
They showed you exactly who it was for during the trailer.

>>725668492 (OP)
$400-480
Can you mix and match the lights on the front, like set it to custom color for a game, or dim them

>>725668492 (OP)
LMAO
will i be able to play all the censored games on it? will there be a tiny Mary on my desktop demanding I stop playing my wretched gooner game?

>>725668492 (OP)
I'm not buying this anytime soon (if at all), but if the OLED Deck is ~$500, I would expect the Machine to be at least that much.

This will be a grand and you’re stupid for believing otherwise

I'm the kind of video game player that this board doesn't seem to think exists. I have a Switch 2. A Switch prior. Wii U before. That's it. Don't play a bunch of games at a time. I prefer Nintendo's exclusives. Sometimes, I am patient enough to wait until a big game gets ported. This thing, if priced well, could be the second game device I own. It could allow me to play other games in the window where they are ported to PC and discounted greatly but not yet to Nintendo's system. It all depends on the price. Clearly, top-tier performance has never been a concern for me.

>>725683907
Anon, you genuinely need to consider the Deck.

This is not targeting hardcore PC gamers with 2k+ rigs.
This is targeting couch gamers who want the benefit of a large Steam libtary for an affordable console-like price.
>the GPU is shit
Well yeah. It's console-esq, The allmighty powerful PS5 has a GPU equivalent to the power of a 3060 XT/

>>725683907
consider the Deck or better yet: buy a vita, that thing is still the king of portables

>>725684219
You don't need a good gpu and 32+ gigs of memory or 32 gigs of vram for indie pixel shit. That's about all the use Gabecube will have.

>>725684171
>>725684240
I only play at home, and this is stronger.

No one is mentioning how this is using KDE plasma

>>725684390
The thing has good enough specs to run all games and thats what its supposed to do. Run even the latest shit at 30 FPS minimum.
That's the target - nothing more. Right now the Steamdeck already struggles with the more demanding UE5 slop so the cube being a little more powerful is in line with expectations.

>>725672858
Would both

>>725684645
What else should it use? GNOME?

>How much will it cost
512GB: $550
2TB: $700
>How much should it cost
Under $400
The only thing it really has going for it in the console sphere is free online play, SteamOS (Linux) instead of Windows means that it will have a restricted library of multiplayer games.

>>725671493
>Who is this even for?
Casual gamers. Same as the steamdeck really. They are trying to make PC gaming more user friendly. The biggest gap for normies who are afraid to get into PC gaming is ease of use. And that's what this is trying to gap. If they price it right, it'll absolutely work too. They did really well with the Deck. So let's see how this all plays out.

>>725669540
It can't be more than $400-500

>>725684836
>SteamOS (Linux) instead of Windows
you can just install windows on it you fucking retard

>>725668492 (OP)
It will be $499

why would i buy this over a steam deck?

ok but will it come with a controller

>>725684687
But they said it was a 4k 60fps machine.

>>725682804
Nice bait

How will this compare to something like a Chauvet DJ Hurricane 1200?

>>725684547
oh
in that case this may be your answer

>>725685518
Installing Windows will practically gimp the specs. So, pick your poison.

>>725685808
4k 60fps with FSR enabled. And always read in between the lines. When any manufacturer makes a claim like that, question it. Like "exactly what kind of games are running 4K 60fps?" Because I can guarantee you not all of them will. Not with the specs this is running at. Not even close for some games.

>>725684836
This. If the base model is not even $400, then Valve fucked up hard.

>>725686173
>4k 60fps with FSR enabled
FSR3, which looks fucking dogshit by the way.

>>725685808
The PS5 is a 8k machine on paper.
Your point?
That just means thats sorta the upper limit.

>>725668492 (OP)
Lets look at the specs
>ryzen 5 7600x
>radeon RX 7600
>16gbs of ram
>512 SSD
>custom case, motherboard, extensive cooling system

Its got to be at least $350-400 unit price
Im thinking they are going to sell them at $599 price point for the 512, $699 for the 2tb

>>725683083
Not to mention!

>>725686429
>$599 price point for the 512, $699 for the 2tb
More like $799 for the 2TB version. If the base model sells for $599, it's DOA.

>>725686190
They could get away with 500 for sure. Just by virtue of it being so much cheaper than the aging modern consoles at that point. Casuals don't care about specs. Not really. So Valve just can point at a 500 dollar steam machine and say "it runs basically all the games you'd get on PS5 or Xbox, but for a lot cheaper!" And basically be correct about that. I think anything more than 500 would be pushing their luck though.

>>725672516
>If it is 600 you might as well buy a PS5 or a XBX.
but I already have 800+ games on steam. why would I buy a console where I have no games?

>>725685518
>Just install Windows bro!
It took Valve almost a year to release the Windows drivers for the OLED deck. The targeted audience (casual gamers, consoletards) are not going to bother going through the whole rigmarole of setting up Windows in the first place.

>>725686651
Why would you buy a shitty gimped PC then?

>>725686335
AMD might enable FSR4 on this thing. It's not like cube owners can be told to just change their graphic cards.

>>725686604
>If the base model sells for $599, it's DOA.
Steam said they were surprised at the demand for the original 512 Steamdeck, which sold out much quicker than the 64gb one. Its price was $650 three years ago.

People who think its going to be less than $600 are full of it.
Thats how much you pay for a mediocre laptop nowadays.

>>725685826
ew.

>>725686772
because right now all I have is a shitty gimped laptop that is physically falling apart, and I like playing games on my couch

>>725670984
This, It's comparable to a PS5/SeriesX in power and we're a year out from a new console cycle. Yes, it won't be obsolete in 2 years like current gen consoles but it has to be cheaper than a PS5. So at most they could sell it for 400ish but consoles slash prices in the last year or 2 of it's life cycle so 350 is a good place to be.

>>725680647
Your future. Seething for another decade because woke is never going away.

You lost.

>>725668492 (OP)
350 max

>>725687162
You are delusional if you think this will cost 350 dollars when the current price of the steam deck is 549 dollars.

>>725686927
The steamdeck was a unique use case though. A portable pc. And yes, they were not the first to that, but they were the first to offer that at an affordable price point. It was a gimmick that people liked. The difference here is that PCs already exist, consoles already exists, boxes you hook up to a TV and play games exist. It's not a niche market. If it's not priced at a point where customers think it's fair, those customer have PLENTY of options elsewhere.

>>725686486
pajeeta is cute

Anything above $400 is DOA for the parts.

So it's a PC? But shittier?

>>725673263
Damn that sucks ass for the steam deck. Glued batteries are Apple tier garbage.

$750 best case, but very likely $850-900
People will buy it. I don't think /v/ realizes that PC gaming is perceived as the premium option by the general public. People already fork over $1200+ for mediocre gaming laptops that get steamrolled by consoles and at least match the new Steam Machine.

>>725671493
Terminal retards who are too stupid to either build their own PC or just buy a prebuilt, yet have money to spare, so they get locked into the Steam ecosystem on a dogshit overpriced poopbox.

>>725668492 (OP)
The max I would pay is $600. $700 if it came with two controllers.

What console is the Steam Machine specs like? PS4/PS5/XBOX SX/S4nsvmyxWITCH 2?

>>725687536
We don't have exact numbers but the estimates put it a little below PS5 level

>>725668492 (OP)
If it is more than 600 it will be DOA

>>725687318
Not really. There is a premium for the small form factor and all the LED shit + face plate options. There's also a premium because Valve tax.

PC autists have a tendency to think that everyone builds their own electronic adult lego machines and also devalue anything prebuilt. You are the minority.

steamos3 for pc before or after steam machine?

>>725687763
They are holding steamos for PC close to their chest, they wont drop it until they have to.

>>725687536
Current console tier, more or less. Not an exact one to one of course, but in that ballpark. It'll probably be fine for casual 1080 gaming on "triple A" modern titles if that's your thing, but anything beyond that will already start to push its limits.

My steamdeck is docked 99% of the time. Im going to replace the steamdeck with the steam machine. I dont need a full on gaming rig to play games on my TV in the living room.

If it were $300, I'd buy one and I don't even need another PC. That would just be such a good deal that I'd get one just for the heck of it. I certainly hope it won't be more than $400. I think Gabe is crazy if he charges anymore than that.

>540p internal res ai upscaled to 1080p
>so blurry as fuck with a gorillion ms of input latency
>locked down OS
>locked down marketplace
>extremely limited features compared to a prebuilt pc
>unmoddable without voiding license and getting account bannu
>parts that could run far better than this pile of crap for far less if you built it yourself
>prebuilt would be slightly more expensive but infinitely better performance and have far more things you could play on it while still requiring zero brain cells
>fuck ugly gay modern minimalist design, looks like a stupid piece of cubist modern art you'd see in an overpriced square house in Los Angeles

Glad to see Valve is welcoming the retard crowd into PC gaming with open arms.

>>725687536
Just look up pc benchmarks for the RX 7600 8gb, thats what they are shoving into this thing. Hopefully they got a good deal on them

>>725687524
You're a terminal retard yourself if you believe you can be locked into an ecosystem on the steam machine

>>725668492 (OP)
More than 500$ and is death on arrival

>>725687267
Steam deck had way higher R&D cost than a mini PC. Unless we are talking about the VR headset too.

>>725688035
The current street price for the graphics card is $250,the CPU $200.
Its not going to be anything close to $300

What’s the point? Nobody buys those mini-pcs either

There's no way you're going to be able to play UE5 games at 4k at 60fps with this pre-built lmao.

>>725668492 (OP)
honestly if they really want it to sell it wont be more than $400
i hope the controller is cheaper than all others though... really wanna try it out and i dont wanna pay close to $100 for a controller

>>725688187
>Nobody buys those mini-pcs either
Nobody buys mini pcs because they dont have GPU power. They shoved a custom implementation of a midrange GPU into it.

>>725686927
The only thing competing with the Steam Deck at that point was shitty chink android handhelds or overly expensive chink GPD handhelds. Steam Deck was pretty much innovative for giving you a handheld with full sized controls with so many packed features built into it. What does the Steam Machine provide in this scenario? Fucking nothing that a SSF PC build wouldn't do.

can you buy them with steam wallet?

>>725688187
Undercut consoles. There absolutely is a gap in the market here, and if Gabe is smart he could get in there. Modern consoles are way too expensive for what they are. A PS5 pro is like 800 dollars or something. If they can get this at 500 or below, it'll sell well.

>>725688346
>What does the Steam Machine provide in this scenario?
A plug and play product mom can buy for little timmy, just like the Steamdeck was.
Remember, normiefags arent into consolewarring anymore. Everyone owns a switch 1, switch 2, xbox, ps5, and even a steamdeck/legion.

>>725668492 (OP)
450 max

>>725688121
>Not even comparable specs to the Steam one
>Not even considering the GPU that the mini-pc in that pic lacks

>>725688161
It's basically just a revised Steam Deck minus the screen, controller, and battery and it should be priced as such.

>>725688431
Good luck with that when the price for the 512GB model is gonna be $650.

>>725668492 (OP)
>hey bros, we need some promotional gameplay to shill the upcoming Steam Machine
>two troons playing Cuphead
KWAB

>>725687763
From what I understand they scrapped the idea of releasing SteamOS as a desktop OS. Pretty disappointed because most distros are unusable slop. If a company like Valve got behind an OS then it would have a *real* chance at becoming a Windows competitor.

TEAM FORTRESS SPOTTED

ORANGE BOX 2 CONFIRMED FOR LAUNCH

I am the market for this kind of thing. I like PC gaming, but I'm a casual too. I can absolutely build a PC and I have done it before. But if this thing can come in under 500, I'm there. Anything more expensive and I'll just build a PC myself.

>>725688492
>A plug and play product mom can buy for little timmy, just like the Steamdeck was.
Mom buys timmy a Switch 2 and gets it done with, or a fucking ipad so he can play roblox and gets groomed. She's not gonna buy him an extra console "just because".
>Everyone owns a switch 1, switch 2, xbox, ps5
Nerds are not "Everyone", otherwise Microsoft wouldn't be thinking of getting out of the console race.

>>725668492 (OP)
Anything more than $400 and its a shitty deal

>>725688623
>Ivan can't even capture his back yard
>Gabe is woke and owns an entire YACHT company
Sorry chuddie, I'm going with the woke dudes. You lost.

isn't a gaming laptop more powerful and cheap?

My theory is that they want to sell it at 500-600 at a loss and hope that a lot more normies join steam and start buying games on there, after all steam is waaay cheaper to play and have overall a lot more games.

>>725668492 (OP)
>console priced

>>725672145
>At 600 dollars you might as well buy *something weaker with 1% the library*

>>725688810
>Nerds are not "Everyone",
Someone hasnt been paying much attention to pop culture in the last decade

>>725687517
You're comparing it to a Laptop tho, which are way more expensive than a Desktop with the same specs (and have resold value) which are also more expensive than mini-pcs with no resale value (which is what the gabecube is). Only retards would buy a mini desktop pc which is more expensive than a normal desktop pc

>>725688876
Because more than that and a PC has more value than a gimped mini-pc

>>725668492 (OP)
$649 and I'm buying it without thinking twice

>>725688360
You can buy the Steam Deck, so probably. I sold a bunch of CSGO shit I never paid for and got a huge discount lmao

>>725671493
>I have a 4070ti super, wtf am I supposed to do with this? Who is this even for?

Idiots who ask the question "But, but how would a woman react i-if you attached an HDMI to a laptop".

Well now those idiots have no excuse, BUY THE PC

also, if it sells cheaper prepare to key pages like eneba to go to the moon

>>725688861
I think you're right.

>>725669067
Frame + All its required accessories + the new Steam Machine is supposed to be $1000
So you get a full self-hosted Valve VR setup for the same price the Index headset was by itself.
So I'd guess Steam Machine will be $349, maybe $399 with the new controller.

>>725671539
Probably has a bit more appeal, but this is like the first-gen Steam Machine since it is a glorified devkit and reference hardware.
This might be a preview of the sort of power level Valve intends for a future more fully stand-alone headset, or the next generation Steam Deck.

>>725688759
The whole point of making SteamOS was to divorce steam from Windows. Back with Windows 8 and the introduction of the windows store, there is a potential where windows forces ALL programs to go through the windows store (taking a cut of the profits)

Valve doesnt want the hassle of running support for a PC OS. But the second that windows tries to pull some bullshit on Valve they will do it.

>>725689006
You aren't matching this hardware under $800, specially not now with the RAM prices.

>>725689106
>Frame + All its required accessories + the new Steam Machine is supposed to be $1000
God I wish this was true. It will probably be closer to $2000

>>725689125
They wouldn't because Xbox is all in on Steam now.

>>725688775
why is his silhouette in that pose

>>725668513
no way it would be cheaper than your standard desktop unless Valve is willing to eat a lot of loss, like PS3 levels of loss for it to just sell.

this thing is shit, 16gb in 2025? OS alone already eats up to 4gb, I suppose the only upgradable stuff here is the hard drive.

so, only retards are going to buy this which has the spec equivalent of Ryzen 5 7000H (its 30w, so its a laptop cpu), 16gb ram, then 8gb undisclosed video card, but analyzing the power supply, its most likely a RX 6600s (a laptop gpu)

so you guys are buying a desktop with laptop specs

>>725689031
>649 and I'm buying it without thinking twice
You could easily build a PC for the same price, and install bazzite Linux on it, and it would be the same thing, except so much more powerful.

>>725689005
Anon, I don't think you realize what mini PCs actually are, hardware wise. They're essentially laptops in the Desktop form-factor. The chips that go into them are literally just laptop chips. I am comparing laptops with dGPUs to a mini PC with a dGPU. That is a very reasonable comparison, even factoring in the cost savings that come from removing the screen and input devices.

Can you even pirate shit on steamOS? why would poorfags buy this console?

Just curious about something. I see it has ports for two monitors, a DisplayPort and HDMI. Is there some kind of trickery that I can do to plug in a third monitor?

>>725668492 (OP)
>>$700
That's the low end tho?

>>725689127
Those RAM prices will also affect the Steam console too. Think about that.

>>725689339
Yes, I pirate most of my games on SteamOS
GOG is easy, goldberg works fine too.

>>725689283
zesty heavy

>>725689339
Who do you think is seething about this the most lmao.

>>725689331
Not at the same performance, no you can't. Feel free to try.

>>725687763
if you can install steamos you're beyond needing it and it will only hinder you
steamos is fundamentally just arch but more locked down and and with an update cadence instead of updating when you want it to
if it ever releases it won't be any special
personally i'd pick either bazzite for newbies, cachyos for advanced users without ocd, arch for advanced users with ocd and gentoo and scratch linux for turboautists with crippling ocd

>>725689404
3rd world bros we won

How does an "AMD Zen 6" compare to an AMD Ryzen 9 5950X?

>>725688876
>*something weaker with 1% the library*
Most of the non PS and Xbox library that's not on steam is crap shovel ware.

>>725668492 (OP)
>$300-500
A steal for the value
>$600+
Reaching PS5 Pro territory
>$999+
Just buy a PC

>>725689331
doesn't bazzite have chinese government malware in it or am I thinking of another distro?

>>725689379
Not if they are already sitting at warehouses, which is very likely since they are aiming for early 2026.

>>725689516
Its an AMD zen 4 cpu with an RDNA 3 GPU (7600x and rx7600)

>>725672351
>i just dont see how is valve going to make money out of this
I think they are trying to convert people who are usually console users over to using Steam for gaming instead. Give them something they feel familiar with so they get a cut of whatever the customers buy instead of Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo.

>>725668492 (OP)
$599 is my assumption based on the off the shelf outdated hardware with mid to low specs. It'll probably be sold with the controller which pushes it to this price.

>>725689406
Am I the only that feels like the whole promotion for all these new products is gay as fuck bros?
Like they trying to sell this shit to the homosexuals.

$300 for the basic storage version, $400 for the 2TB version.
Anything more you're better off just getting a PC and install steamOS yourself for free.

>>725688880
>Nerd culture is the same as pop culture fafs
Funko pops is at the risk of going under. Most people here don't give a shit about Marvel movies. Not everyone owns a Steam Deck, a Legion Go or an Xbox Series X. You are just delusional and think this somehow has an audience when most people don't give a shit, especially if Valve's policy of only shipping this to specific countries in limited numbers just like what happened with the Steam Deck or Valve Index.

>>725689525
Not even talking about the indie trash, basically every AAA from the last 30 years is on Steam. Also PS5 and Xbox "exclusives". Consoles are done for.

>>725689641
>It'll probably be sold with the controller which pushes it to this price.

i have bad news for you...

Why is it so underpowered? We're at the end of this console generation so there is zero future-proofing with it. It won't even be able to max out Half Life 3 if that ever comes out.

>>725669080
nothing does anon

This going to be at MINIMUM $699

>>725689106
>Frame + All its required accessories + the new Steam Machine is supposed to be $1000
>So you get a full self-hosted Valve VR setup for the same price the Index headset was by itself.
>So I'd guess Steam Machine will be $349, maybe $399 with the new controller.
This would make sense if Valve is smart and ignores every retard here who say it's not gonna happen.

>>725669080
I’m NOT touching UE5 so whatever.

>>725668492 (OP)
Seems like a waste not just making the Steam Deck 2, which can be used the same way the Steam Box will be.

>>725689716
Consoomers are consoomers, and stuff like the legion is on display at every single best buy.
This has literally never had a bigger market, and people have been priced out of gaming PCs for a while now.

>>725689692
Build me a PC with similar specs for $400, I dare you. That's the kind of crap you are getting for $800 today.

>>725689641
They talked about the steam machine and consoles as if they were different entities. So I'd suspect they'll only ever be sold separately. Fucking jews

>>725689339
>why would poorfags buy this console?
Poorfags can't even buy Valve hardware without overpriced 3rd party resellers lmao.

>>725668492 (OP)
>8 GB VRAM

Why even bother?

>>725689772
I think with all the tariffs and everything that this is the best they can do without making a $2000 box

>>725689896
if you watch the digital foundry review, they created this box because most users of steam desk were playing with it docked on tv

>>725689772
95% of people who play games don't give a shit about maxing out their games.

>>725674250
Upgrade your povertyrig, faggot. Carmack was programming DOOM on the joke of a resolution you're still using in 2025

>>725689870
>ignores every retard here
Steam isnt going to lose copious amounts of money on hardware, especially on a niche product like this

>>725672506
this, this is why they valve has been pushing FSR baked into the OS. it allows you to run anything on shit ass hardware(i.e. cheap) on a big display. most normies are retarded and will notice zero difference between 1080 or 1440 when upscaled.

>>725689978
Let volvoo eat the costs. Who fucking cares, Gabe can sacrifice not buying a yacht for one year.

>>725689978
>200$ ram

im going to kill myself

>>725689772
>It won't even be able to max out Half Life 3 if that ever comes out.
Look at Half Life Alyx. That requires a 4C/4T i5 and a 1060.

>>725690062
My steamdeck is docked 100% of the time. Then again, so is my switch.

steam machine was by far the least interesting announcement but will have the best ramifications for the future due to it refocusing proton towards more powerful hardware
the other two though? best controller in the industry and an insanely good and advanced vr headset? sign me right the fuck up, getting that shit asap

>>725689339
SteamOS is immensely easy to pirate shit on. It's literally just Linux with a user friendly coat of paint.

>>725671493
i'd guess it'll be most commonly used for the living room, like a console but for PC games

right now your best bet for that use-case is a gaming laptop or mini PC but Windows and desktop Linux aren't really great for that purpose unless you like constantly switching between a wireless keyboard/trackpad and controller

>>725678839
>It's more powerful than even sexbox
No, it's not. a 7600 non-XT with even less CUs is worse than both the Series X and the base PS5

>>725668492 (OP)
Depends on how much I can eBay my Xbox Series X for.

Hey, before you say anything, I picked up for a killer deal new (store/employee discount + apply eBay $$$ sold Xbox 360) for around $250 new. But I'm still not sure if it was worth it.

If the Steam Machine is a grand, I'll probably hand on to the Series X. If anything else, it's good for GamePass. I do have a gaming PC, but for those who don't know, you have to undo a lot of privacy settings to make it work.

lmao this is going to be $700+

>>725690230
That's a meme game. I'm talking about actual games.

>>725689772
It's more powerful than current consoles.

Personally I'd only buy one if it was $500 but I think it's going to be at least $800
Any cheaper than that and it's just going to get scalped to shit

>>725690138
>Steam isnt going to lose copious amounts of money on hardware
They'll make it up with software like every other console manufacturer YOU FUCKING RETARDED NIGGER. Jesus christ, so many of you are just fucking losers with the mind of an executive here. Most of you will gladly make Steam public.

>>725690062
Why would you get a handheld PC and not even use the handheld part of it.

>>725668492 (OP)
>cutoff at 700
Nah, it'll be 799 for the 512gb version and 850 for the 1tb

>>725690062
i bought a steam deck for something to use in my camper van on vacation that didnt suck power but now my steam deck just sits docked to my tv. portables are cool and all but unless you have some career that has you constantly away from then most people are just gonna be gaming on their tvs at the end of the day

>>725689772
People don't care about power.

>>725690383
they won't sell shit then

>>725690353
The $650 steamdeck sold out in minutes, and had the most demand.
Why the fuck would you undercut the market and price point you already created?
The only people buying this thing are already pcbros, making it cheap wont bring other people in.

>>725681573
>>No HDMI 2.1
unfortunately not possible thanks to the faggot ghouls at the HDMI Forum, best bet is a DP1.4->HDMI2.1 adapter

>PC EXPERIENCE IN THE LIVING ROOM
GABEN IS A GENIUS

>>725690447
Thirdies and zoomers aren't "people"

>>725690241
>user friendly
lmao. i hope you'll keep saying this when the average retard can't find where he installed his repacks on his virtual WINE folder.

>>725668492 (OP)
$330.77 barebone

>>725668513
>16 GB ram
they're trolling hard

>>725690383
actually low iq lmao
do you legitimately believe a singular pcb system with safe low end silicon will be that expensive while also believing that you can get a 1.5tb of an nvme ssd for $50
you know fucking nothing

>>725690180
Memory prices have spiked 171% in the past year

>>725690361
i mean steam desk, the worst one is 350$ a very fucking cheap console and you get access to the whole steam catalogue with the discount and keys, it’s a very good alternative to game in a budged

>>725668513
>16 gb ram
I hope that's upgradeable because that's already half obsolete

>>725690353
Good since this will flop and overall lose stram money, just like the steam deck.

>>725690339
It really isn't

>>725668492 (OP)
it will probably be $800 but at anything more than $700 it's too expensive for the target audience. $500 (and anything lower) is delusional

>>725668492 (OP)
no less than 600 for the shittiest model but judging by the recent news it could rise to 800

>>725690338
The point is that Source 2 is very efficient. Alyx looks pretty fucking good for how it runs.
Btw I forgot to mention that's for driving the Index, aka 1440x1600 per eye.

>>725668492 (OP)
$400, mostly because the PS5 still exists and has a bigger GPU.

>>725668492 (OP)
If they go the steamdeck route and sell at cost it should be around 400$ which also would take it out of the PS5 range. But it's capitalism so it'll probably be 500$.

>>725689978
Your build has 32GB RAM (which is way overpriced atm), realistically 16GB RAM is worth $80 which is what I paid for mine 3 years ago. So you can shave $120 off there.
Arc B580 is also a 12GB card and way stronger than the gimped 7600 so shave another $50 off.
Your case, PSU etc are also more expensive since steam machine is going to be rated like 200W (30W CPU + 110W GPU). So those would also come down a bit.
Realistically the steam machine system should cost $500ish, but Valve should take a loss on it if it wants to push steamOS market share which is the main thing they are trying to achieve.

>>725689772
wanting to play modern eu5 slop lmao these are for emulation and indies games

>>725690689
'fraid they be sayin' it is

>>725690501
>The $650 steamdeck sold out in minutes, and had the most demand.
The Steam Deck was a unique handheld that no other company managed to do. No one is gonna buy a gimped SSF build if it costs more than $500, retard.

>>725689772
>Oh man, those new consoles are so expensive!
>And my old Windows 10 laptop is End of Life!
>I wish there was a cheap easy way to get back into PC gaming!

>>725690542
They are literally the people.

If GabeCube is over $400 its ewaste day 1, DOA. Already weaker than (upon it's release) SIX year old consoles.
At 700 you could LITERALLY buy a stronger prebuilt RIGHT NOW

>>725669080
maybe at 56p

>>725690828
Then they're lying

>>725690638
>>725690575
>developers are so shit that people unironically say nonsense like this now
we all need to go back

>>725690670
>Ryzen 3600
stopped reading there

nvm gave another chance
>single 16GB on AM4
stopped again

>>725690829
>No one is gonna buy a gimped SSF build if it costs more than $500, retard.
You should see how much people are paying for terrible prebuilt midrange gaming PCs

>>725690575
it's not running windows though

I dont really see the existing pc power users needing this thing because just running a mini PC hooked up to my tv can let me play games over moonlight streaming which is more than enough to play everything outside of some majorly autistic input sensitive games

>>725668492 (OP)
this is going to sell poorly because it won't be given the same forgiveness the eck did
by that, I mean people don't expect handhelds to be particularly powerful, but people will think they're buying a "real" pc when they're really getting a gimped one

>>725690769
>le capitalism
valve isn't doing this shit to profit, they're a private company with human goals
they want to create new ways to enjoy pc and the ultimate goal of them making hardware is to drive a stake through microsoft's jeeted heart

>>725690842
>cheap

>>725690960
you could also just run an hdmi cable

>>725690845
So this is the current PC master race lmao.

>>725690884
Its 6x stronger than a steamdeck, which tons of people play docked.

>>725690970
it's meant to be a console not really a pc

>>725690884
build it

>>725669080
brother my fucking 4000 dollar gaming rig cant run ue5

>>725690884
yeah people are retarded itt

>>725690996
>valve isn't doing this shit to profit
Good. Because they won't.

>>725668492 (OP)
Is possible to buy this without turning into an arch user?

>>725668492 (OP)
>six times more powerful than a steam deck
so $2,400 then?

>>725690575
its not running window 11 16 gb is fine

>>725691012
>Laughing char.gif
tell me that's not charlotte nigga she looks like a different person each time i see a picture of her

>>725690567
you're describing a strange breed of retard that's somehow smart enough to get his hands on pirated DRM-free games and is aware of what Wine and Proton are, but somehow isn't smart enough to just install them through Steam or Lutris or Heroic

>>725690884
the same prebuilt will cost 1400 in 6 months

>>725690960
valve is doing what it did with steam deck which was basically improve linux gaming by offering easy preinstall systems
valves vision is open PC based gaming with linux and they arent really targeting power users here but those who are using consoles now
with their new VR set they are also pushing for more Linux ARM stuff

Valve already has the store and this is just them taking stabs at microsoft mainly

>>725691114
everyone at valve already has insane salaries
they really don't give a shit, they're a company driven by ideas and goals, not by attracting boomer shareholder investment

>>725690970
It all depends on price to performance. If this is priced right, normies would be more than happy to buy it and play calladuty on it. Hell, if it's a really good deal, I'll get one myself for casual gaming. Yes, I said CASUAL. I'm a filthy unwashed casual.

>>725690575
Series S has 10GB shared with the GPU and the last 2GB runs at like a quarter speed

>>725670976
They might have gotten a really good deal on 28CU binned dies that could have become RX 7600s. Maybe the CPUs are also just dies that weren't good enough to become R5 7600s. Might be cheaper to build than we assume from individual part prices.

>>725691069
I don't disagree, but retards aren't going to see it that way

>>725691068
>tons of people

>>725685351
They didn't attract any normies with the Deck though

>>725690970
It's going to sell poorly because it's definitely going to be $500+ for the base 512GB version. Not to mention it's Steam-store only and only certain regions. At most, it'll sell <10 million lifetime, which is what I predicted for the Steam Deck before it released (and a whole bunch of valve niggers got angry and upset about that for some reason). Unless Valve goes all out with the marketing and retail distribution (kek) then I don't see it being much of a hit, especially since it doesn't offer much to people with a decent rig like me.

>>725690970
At the price point it will be, and the Windows machines it will be up against I doubt that.
Anybody that is going to build or buy a more serious gaming PC isn't the market for this.
Outside of developers who will want it as a reference system.

>>725691147
if you have a steam deck you are already technically an arch user, sorry

>>725671442
Yeah its because you're a jeet who runs winblows 11, the worst platform to game on because of how shitty it is at allocating ram

>>725691282
Cool let me know when they have a single good idea or goal

>>725690884
the ps5 is 720p barely 30fps how is it worse than that?

>>725690575
16 for cpu ram is still fine compared to 8 in vram. Xbox and PS5 have 16 gb shared between the cpu and the gpu. remember it's running steam OS not window. hopefully it's 2 slot and upgradable but short term it's probably not gonna be a bottle neck.

>>725690996
You got it all wrong, valve is the only few companies that are working for pure profit.

Everything else is taken over by retarded shareholders, and work for the shareholders, and will do the most absolutely fucking retarded decisions possible because the shareholders can legally demand it.
The "humane goals" you think of is just what happens when a company say "hey! we should cater to the public to get money!"

>>725668492 (OP)
I'm just going with my gut, but the Steam Cube will be around 400-450, think Steam will offset any losses Valve may have with the hardware, now if it goes above 500? then things might be a bit iffy

>>725689127
I got a laptop about equal to that for 550 from Costco a year ago
I hook it up to my tv with a controller as is. Don’t understand the point of this console if it costs more than that.

this will sell well on 3rd world country

>>725668492 (OP)
this is $2000 easy

1) Is the ram up-gradable?
2) What PC CPU and GPU is this comparable to (and how much would it cost to buy it used/new)?
3) What is the best you could do pc wise at each price point (used or new)?
4) How does this compare to the base ps5?

Also you think people would pay for a "pro" version like the ps5 pro for an extra $100-$200 (better gpu and cpu)?

>8GB ram

hahaha

>>725691480
it's not available on 3rd world countries.

>>725691427
Yes, but for ps5 and xbox you have entire division of studios trying to take blood out of a rock, which is not going to happen with the steam machines.

>>725691297
That is the rumor, that AMD has been trying to shop a bunch supply for those dies around looking for a buyer, and that the Windows OEMs weren't interested.
Not too different from the origin story of the Deck.

>>725691457
Prices aren't the same as 1 year ago and I really doubt you bought a laptop comparable to this for $550 even a year ago.

>>725691417
>created an entire market of pc handhelds
>best controller on the planet
>spearheaded an open source free operating system with infinite customisability
>wireless and properly balanced vr headset

>>725690578
Anon, they themselves said it will not be priced like a console or a handheld and will have an entry level PC pricepoint and it is safe to assume they weren't talking about fucking chromebooks when they said that...
A gen 4 1tb nvme is currently priced a bit over 100€ where I live, and 25.5% of that is tax, a hardware manufacturer is going to get them for far cheaper because they are buying in bulk.
Also, where the hell did you pull the 1.5tb figure from? You do realize they will replace the 512gb NVME with the 1tb NVME if you buy the 1tb version?

The deck was at it's lowest 400. No way this gets that cheap. Gonna say 800. For a low end.

>only 16 gigs ram
Bruh

ngl the idea of getting to keep all the game you bought when you buy a new console is pretty nice...

>>725668492 (OP)
300

>>725690670
>3600
It has a 7600 equivalent, try again.

>>725668492 (OP)
Over $700
I doubt they'll make it affordable

>>725668492 (OP)
What's the appeal of this? It's just another computer.

>>725691631
>>created an entire market of pc handhelds
Valve didn't invent UMPCs
>>best controller on the planet
False
>>spearheaded an open source free operating system with infinite customisability
Valve didn't invent computers
>>wireless and properly balanced vr headset
Valve didn't invent VR

Nice try, steamie

>>725691721
It's a console that computers

>>725689312
>unless Valve is willing to eat a lot of loss, like PS3 levels of loss for it to just sell.
Wasn't the PS3 exorbitantly overpriced to the point of being one of the most expensive consoles ever? Was it seriously still at a huge loss?

two reason I would buy one. if it's cheap enough a Linux PC to plug into my TV, I know enough about arch. I would buy one for my brother if it can run Windows games at say PS5 level of graphics, has to be cheaper than a PS5 though

>>725691667
i wonder how much the screens cost and how much it costs to push everything into that thing instead of just having a box

>>725691721
It's a computer for dummies

>>725690940
Okay? And you think this piece of shit will sell well when a MSI laptop with an RTX 5060 costs $800 at a Microcenter right now? And how this piece of shit device is perfect for the mythical normalfag that's not into PC gaming and want to get one (when the Steam Deck did an infinitely better job)? Some of you morons are so sure this will sell at $650 with the base model, genuine delusions happening ITT.

>>725689312
It's clearly not meant for you, retard
>so you guys are
Who are you talking to you schizo faggot?

>>725668492 (OP)
Wasn't there a Steam Machine before and it failed?

>>725691792
if it's two expensive on release wait for the first wave of sell off. it always happens, you probably want to get one within the first year of release though otherwise it probably wouldn't be worth it

>>725690062
Actually it was around 20%

>>725671493
Consolefags who never got into the PC space.

>>725689339
I think anyone who understands how to pirate something has enough braincells to rub toghter to build a poverty tier PC instead

>>725691480
Third world countries will buy a PS5 or play mobileshit. Genuinely don't know the audience for this besides people with decent PCs trying to convert their friends or family by either shilling it to them or gifting it to them. Especially since cross-play is still retarded cause of developers and Sony being fags.

>>725691915
No, those were just shitty prebuilts made by incompetent third-party manufacturers. They're doing this again with the same name probably to erase that history lmao

>>725691915
Kinda, Valve told a bunch of other manufacturers to make some machines with steamOS and they sucked, there were also a lot of supply problems with them so the orders just weren't going through.

>>725691049
ya let me just run a 500 ft hdmi cable across my house to do 4k@120 resolution

>>725691273
the autistic power user market seems to be most of their market desu. normies just want something they can put their disk from bestbuy in and play NBA or whatever. anyone who buys this without a decent grasp of computers is gonna chimp out when it runs like shit because it auto defaults to 4k render resolution. just the nature of it not being retard friendly is already gonna torpedo it.

they are better off targetting autistic dudes with more money to play their niche ass bullshit and emulators. a steam deck with emudeck has such insane capability compared to everything else on the market

>NOOOOOOOOO IT'S NOT A 5000 DOLLAR SUPER COMPUTER MEANT FOR TECHFAGGOTS IT'S GONNA FLOOOOOOP
/v/ always consistently proven to be the most retarded subhumans in the gaming community. Kek.

>>725692075
Ps5 is prohibitively expensive even in first world countries

>>725691724
valve made umpcs relevant to the point of starting a market for them and making many big players follow their lead
steam controller 2 will be functionally and technologically superior to every controller on the planet due to tmr, trackpads, seamless switching between wired and wireless
valve is responsible for a massive push in linux compatibility to the point where all its opposition is ideological
>Valve didn't invent VR
this is perhaps the most retarded strawman interpretation of my statement

nice try timmy, unfortunately chinks will dismantle your failing lemonade stand because it brings in no money

>>725691915
yeah
it ran debian instead of arch
it didnt run wine / proton

that concept was valve thinking if they sold steam machine then developers would be doing linux ports. Steam Machine was basically just a spec for companies who sold prebuilt PCs.

this steam machine runs wine / proton and plays pretty much all but competitive online games with kernel level anticheat. Also no third party vendors this time and its valve designing everything

>>725690542
lel

>>725691915
First-gen Steam Machines were a variety of hardware from Windows OEMs. They went away because Microsoft threatened to enforce contract terms against those OEMs. Which is why Valve spent the second generation re-thinking and decided to go in-house for the third-generation Steam Machines the Deck, and now the new Steam Machine.
Those first-gen Steam Machines were also before Proton the win32 compatibility layer, before RadV the high performance AMD Vulkan driver, and even before Vulkan itself.

>>725689772
valve seem to be pretty dang cozy with AMD at this point so I'd imagine they'll be some software wizardry to squeeze as much preformace out as possible

>>725691787
You didn't know? The BD drive was cutting edge, the Cell was some bizarre over engineered thing, 60 or 80GB HDD (Xbox options were none or 20GB), WiFi and HDMI (Xbox didn't have either), etc

>>725692078
I don't think SteamOS was much chop when that happened. I have no idea if they have fixed the issue with anti-cheat for games. I would not launch this Steam Machine thing unless the OS is ready for the avg dullard. I played Dune Awakening on my steamdeck the other day so that works

>>725685808
>said it was a 4k 60fps machine.
proof?

>>725668492 (OP)
I'm not tech-savvy so I asked Google and I gave an estimate a couple hundred dollars above what I want.
Price aside, what Valve is doing here is essentially rolling out a complete integrated system for somebody like me who is not tech-savvy - and this is the important part: Who has a decent gaming PC already for 1080p - to be able to offload my streaming to a made-to-purpose box that connects to a controller designed for same, or to a VR headset or handheld.
I want to see how much it would run me.

>>725690460
Yeah, probably only the most diehard Valve fans will buy them, the type that were still buying Steam Decks and Valve Indexes for the absurd prices they were being sold despite being outdated as fuck.

>>725692082
>the autistic power user market seems to be most of their market desu
see hardware surveys result and compare the hardware to steam machine. You will be surprised..and that is their existing users and valve is looking out to get more casuals

~$850 CAD is what I'm expecting, I might pick one up but idk, I might just buy a prebuilt once I get a bit more money together

>>725691850
Mobile 5060 is weaker than a 2060

I feel like waiting for strix halo to go down in price or using the same chip set as the ps6/next box would have been the play. medusa halo apu is gonna wreck this thing in a year and probably be cheaper.

>>725692207
Gabe will surely send you a thank-you letter for defending his billion dollar corporation on the internet, fanboy faggot.

>>725691915
Yes. The main reason they failed is pretty simple, it ran Linux and could only run games with Linux ports, aka fuck all.

>>725668492 (OP)
imma say 500. Doesn't need the batteries or screen the Steam Deck needs, they probably reinvested it into the better hardware.

>>725692548
>i have no rebuttal and i must seethe
glad that you've proven that you're not a rational agent timmy

>>725691721
emulator/iindie box with some modern games at 1080

>>725692579
would you prefer everyone just played on consoles? the only people left on PC are the full nerds and troons

>>725668492 (OP)
$649.99

>>725691915
before proton and just put a steam badge on random prebuilts

>>725691721
Gabe likes vanity projects and shit that would only appeal to him and he's a billionaire so he does them

The average normalfag is not gonna buy this if it can't play COD, Fortnite, Roblox, FIFA, GTA Online, Apex, LoL, Genshin, Siege, Valorant without getting banned.

>>725691169
>>725690949
The absolute cope of troonix pcbros

>>725692664
What? Anyway consoles are literally dying bro, PC gaming has never been bigger.

>>725692637
No problem, corporate shill.

>>725668492 (OP)
I just hope Gay Ben lets us use SteamOS on our own computers. Free me from Windows!!!

>>725692702
proton qt was the spark steam os needed

>>725691175
that's not a recent charlotte either, she looks way different to that now

>>725692794
The average normalfag isn't a 6 year old. They will probably figure out for shit like COD and GTAO

>>725692842
It's literally just Arch, nigger. You can use it right now.

>>725691850
That's a $1350 laptop with Windows 11 AIDS and usually these laptops come with shitty bloat and you can't adequately cool the laptop so it fucks with performance.
Also "MUH 5060" nigga that's a mobile GPU.

>>725690769
they didn't sell steamdeck at cost. they made a point saying even the 64gb version had positive margin.

>>725692810
I don't understand the Valve hate. I remember when Steam came out and I hated that fucking thing. In the end it's probably what kept PC gaming going through the 2000's. without Gabe's hate for Microsoft you wouldn't be playing as much shit on Linux. I just see it as more options. I would love to never use Windows again

>>725692842
install bazzite for entry level and cachy level for non autistic power user level
steamos will give you literally fucking nothing unique, bazzite has its stability and security and cachyos is peak performance linux

>>725692207
>steam controller 2 will be functionally and technologically superior to every controller on the planet due to tmr, trackpads, seamless switching between wired and wireless
Yes and the Nintendo Joycons have nfc technology and gyro and hd rumble and can be split in two and side buttons and a fucking infared light sensor for some reason but nobody cares because their ergonomics are fucking atrocious. You can pack whatever technology you want into a controller but if it isn't comfortable to hold nobody will give a shit, and the steam controller looks like it has terrible ergonomics

Will it still use regular USB controllers?

>>725692953
yeah except it's been thoroughly tested with modern tech and games.

$400 is the max i'll go for underpowered 16gb ram and 8gb vRAM this thing will struggle to run modern games using unreal engine at low to medium graphics at 2k resolution and its laughable it can even keep at 30fps at 4k

>>725692338
Some kernel level anti-cheats can be run on a linux system, like BattlEye which Dune Awakening uses, but it's not going to be nearly as effective on a linux system from what I've gathered, which is why a lot of devs just don't allow the AC to be run on a linux machine in the first place.
Rockstar is a great example of this, they added BattlEye for GTA Online and refused to add linux support, they straight up lied and said "BattlEye doesn't support Linux".
The point being, if the devs have potential to lose sales/revenue because of hackers, they are not going to make their anti-cheats linux compatible.
Obviously if a large majority of the PC players suddenly switched to Linux however, they would have to come up with some sort of workarounds.

>>725691564
It's not on sale in America?

>>725692946
>The average normalfag isn't a 6 year old
Nigger, the zoomers need tiktok instructions. Their brain will melt if they're reading a long readme.txt on github.

this is pretty obviously built to compete with consoles so I'd say ballpark $500-600 for the base model. Depending on how sweet of a deal they cut with AMD on the chips this could be sold at a loss, which is still no big deal considering how much money valve makes from operating steam. Losing $100 or so on hardware is nothing if the people buy it generate several times that in games purchases over the next few years.

>>725692480
Strix Halo and Medusa Halo probably aren't going to be super cheap any time soon. They have a more complex production, and they have that big unified memory gimmick which makes them desirable for AI.
That said, I bet there will be plenty of other vendors happy to sell you a Medusa Halo machine with Linux pre-installed.
It just isn't the same market as bargain basement entry-level gaming PC.

>>725692794
What do you mean? Those programs that let you play Windows games on Linux get you banned?
I mean they can just install W11 on it if they want.

>>725693012
steam deck supports all controllers and proton has game specific input icon support for different controllers like sony....100%

>>725693075
I mean Valve will figure out. No one buying this will be playing fucking Roblox.

>>725692350
The AI here is retarded, the "typically not as aggressively as Sony" thing is just hallucination.

>>725668492 (OP)
$650, $700 for the maxed storage model.

compared to the 'eck this is using a generic heatsink, doesn't need a carefully crafted controller or a battery or a screen and it's made to introduce linux to normies so valve can eat some loss because they'll get their profit back from selling games
you people seriously

>>725693283
that's the fault of bloober.

>>725693068
yeah I said I didn't think it was fixed yet. It just worked on the steamdeck but I looked up if it worked before hand. It ran like shit btw, I just wanted to see what happened if I left my character logged in, inside my base while I was alseep

I am sure Valve have done market research before hand. you could install Windows on the Steam Machine if you want. I would prefer Rockstar just get forced due to market forces to make it work like you said

>>725693278
compared to the 'eck this is using a generic heatsink, doesn't need a carefully crafted controller or a battery or a screen and it's made to introduce linux to normies so valve can eat some loss because they'll get their profit back from selling games
you people seriously overestimate how expensive this thing will be

>>725689660
You're just gay anon

Now that I think about it, maybe PS5 on launch was the most cost-effective console ever release

>>725693283
...no matter the hardware

>>725668513
>HDMI 2.0
>Up to 4K @ 120Hz
Explain

>>725692987
There is a lot of Microsoft astroturf, as well as fanboys who can't imagine stepping outside the walled garden Microsoft has locked them into.

>>725693428
Just use DP

>>725689352
>Is there some kind of trickery that I can do to plug in a third monitor?
pretty sure you can use the usb-c port for video out

>>725693428
chroma subsampling but most likely that will not be necessary. Most games are not gonna run that well.

>>725693540
DP 1.4 is terrible

You'll be lucky if you can get this at 500-600 dollars. 650 is IMO the minimum but they said that the cost is around entry level PCs so it can go to 800 dollars.

>>725671442
most people play older low spec shit now, didnt some recent steam survey that most people are playing like 7+ year old games now

>>725693498
yeah I just wonder what some people think the PC gaming landscape would be like if Valve wasn't around. probably locked in a Microsoft box or 100 launchers or subscription services for games

>>725693627
how so, I'm using it and just werks

>>725689978
Don't bother. These incels are trapped in 2013 right before they got buck broken by bannon

>>725671442
are they removing the series s from the market or what

>>725693779
DSC on DP 1.4 for 4k has been a nightmare for me. Native or bust.

>>725671442
valve already has a category for games that specifically play nice with the deck
all you have to do as a developer is to introduce a settings level that will accommodate playing on the gabecube

>>725685826
Don't be anti-semeitic

>>725693760
the pc landscape would look exactly like xbox game pass but more monolithic if steam didnt exist. subscription based access to multiplayer and everything being delivered through a god awful interface

>>725693669
>they said that the cost is around entry level PCs
I just read that too. Which really worries me now. No way am I willing to pay like 800 dollars for a severely gimped PC. On the other hand, they haven't announced prices yet, so hopefully they are monitoring the community and seeing what people are saying before coming through a price that seems more reasonable.

>>725693910
Are you running at 4K 240Hz or what? And you don't really think you'll be doing 4K 60fps (upscaled) with this hardware, right?

>>725693105
Strix isn't cheap because amd didn't manufacturer them in bulk. Rumour is Medusa Halo is gonna be in both next gen console late '26 or early '27. amd is gonna manufacture a lot and they'll be in everything from laptops to handhelds, they'll go down in price. This Steam machine is under powered and in a year a new minimum standard for power is gonna be set for the next 5-8 years because console power has always been the benchmark devs run their games against. Even if this thing costs as much or a little less than a PS5 right now it's a shit deal.

It's really weird they're announcing this now. Unless it actually stomps it's gonna get overshadowed by the next wave of consoles.

>>725693669
Keep in mind Valve is buying the hardware in bulk, it is 'withered' hardware none of the Windows OEMs wanted to buy.
Also Valve doesn't have to pay the Microsoft tax, either as a per-system fee, or as a performance penalty.

The whole point of the new Steam Machine is to give buyers a cheap point of entry to Steam, and also to SteamVR when bundled with the headset.

>>725694329
It'll be just the new Series S.

about FSR4
https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/pull/2679
doitsujin and HansKristian (the two main people behind these stuff on proton) disabled FSR4 for non-RDNA4 platforms
>The decision is above my paygrade.

>>725694329
they know the next console iteration is going to be a total fucking meme, look at these ps5 pro vs ps5, most normies cant tell a difference. the real problem is that unoptimized UE5 slop that rapes hardware is becoming more and more ubiquitous and this machine is not going to be able to weather that storm but hopefully that forces developers to not make unoptimized shit

>>725668492 (OP)
Valve is bringing the SteamMachine back?
Fucking why?
Last time it was a terrible failure, do they really think it'll work this time?
>still doing 5 versions
>not just a modest cheapish version for 450ish then a high end uber tier at 900
valve is so fucking retarded. burning money for nothing

>>725693760
Hmm let me think
>roller coaster tycoon
>red alert
>sims
>age of empires
Etc etc etc etc

It was perfect before Valve. It will go back to being perfect after valve.

>>725694581
lmao, well, there goes all the cope how you can use FSR4 on RDNA3...

>>725694660
they are doing 1 version and the previous steam machine is not even remotely same thing as this ting

Jackie from steam is doing a deep dive on blue sky.

>>725694263
Yeah, I think it's better to wait for a Steam Deck 2 version with better FSR tech than buying a Steam Machine. Just weird decisions all around here.

>>725694660
The Steam Machine has a better chance of working this time around to be fair. The market has changed greatly. The only thing they have to do now to land it right, is get it at a reasonable price point. If it's cheaper than current consoles, it'll sell very well. That's a big if of course.

>>725694660
>not just a modest cheapish version for 450ish then a high end uber tier at 900
That does seem to make a lot of fucking sense. I've been thinking about this for the last hour and the only way to really enjoy the SM as a console would be if you need it to be connected to your PC. It's not at all positioned to be a competitor to the Playstation.

>>725694702
this might be related to what discussions they had with AMD
you can use it still but just not on an official proton build so you need to install something like proton-ge and put it to the same directory where protons go to in steam and it works the same

its most likely just that AMD doesnt want to get into this situation where someone could advertise that RDNA3 can run FSR4

>>725694834
Reminds me of that guy from Dune.

>>725694660
>Valve is bringing the SteamMachine back?
They already did with the Steam Deck, and actually calling the new Steam Machine the Steam Machine is good branding.
Vulkan, RadV, and Proton were game changers for PC Gaming on GNU/Linux based OSes, and Microsoft has placed their own platform in End of Life.
Also there are only two SKUs the base version, and the version with a larger drive installed.

>>725690664
>stram

>>725694660
They felt like losing billions while pretending to know what they're doing. Remember, when all your shit fails, you can at least convince your corporate shill fanbase that it's still spiritually successful

>>725694676
It won't.
We're on the shit online world now.
Things like shareware and physical distribution are no longer a thing and all good US companies were bought and gutted until there's none left.

>>725694834
this woman looks like your average alt-right incel
creepy

>>725668492 (OP)
Literally and unironically about tree fiddy

>>725694602
It does feel like things have kind of plateaued for a while. And VR was not the next leap like everyone was hoping.

>>725668492 (OP)
Anything above $400 and its dead on arrival, $449 at the absolute max. Couldn't give a shit about it though and will only check out the headset if the price is right.

>>725694956
The next version of FSR is supposed to officially include a upgraded version of the INT8 model that leaked out. So AMD would want to prevent the emulated code path for the FP8 version from being accidentally used.

>>725694834
What a disgusting monster

>>725695320
I disagree.

>>725670620
fuck you texas

>>725694834
Just put the fork down, holy shit it's not that hard.

if its anything like the steam deck, just being able to run almost every emulator is a massive plus for the hardware. it seems like new generations are insanely into older games now. if this thing is already cheaper than a ps5 but offers emudeck its probably enough to get alot of people on board