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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!
/sthg/ #8342 - Speed Demon Edition
==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Summer Game Fest Trailer:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_xAuG3JfIg
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Price Breakdown:https://x.com/sonicstadium/status/1931114573177995627
>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.https://pad.riseup.net/p/qQuY_QfXPQct68PyFm-e
>New Sonic Manga announced on CoroCoro by the SXSG manga artist, Sonic and the Blade of Courage:https://x.com/soniccitynet/status/1922691331966607716?s=46
>Chao Tales Full Serieshttps://youtu.be/EENSzPFeVFQ
>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed againhttps://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/
==Comics Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #4 - 18 June 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #79 - 25 June 2025
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #5 - 16 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #80 - 23 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - August 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026
==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Uk5U8jY_RPZF9m_gmPfSOfCngAOSAxy393dsQVPoOyQ/edit#gid=0
>Perfect System Collection:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NA28SqNWzuyaCmeePsdOabcemjzg3t1M/view
>Sonic comic scans:https://grabber.zone
>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg
Previous Zone:
>>527131062
Crossworlds will be the last Sonic game to be released. This cursed series will finally die.
>>527172287>>527183580I think we need to talk about the Nickelodeon leaks all the time! Say it high! Say it low! What can possibly go wrong?
>>527184272Nintendo doesn't have any competition anymore.
Sony dropped out.
Microsoft dropped out.
Sega's rigid as fuck animation has unironically got retards thinking going off model for going off models sake is a good direction for Sonic.
>>527184269Ohh, interesting. I'm glad they made them lighter blue though, they're prettier
Still like both though
You know what, I'll generate Surge's massive ass.
>>527184272How is this sonic related, like at all? Go to /v/ or learn common sense
>No funny arc where Sonic and Surge have their arms tied together so they're forced to team up while Surge has to resist the urge to kill him
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>>527184416Yeah I don't want Sonic being hyper cartoony either
>>527184485I prefer the final eyes too
>>527180689That makes me leap for joy!
>She said "no mayo" because it makes her fat.
http://x.com/cosmicseternity/status/1933002615303921908
>>527184535But they ARE real! Are you insane?
>>527184707Legends of Spyro 3 concept ahh
>>527184396Unironically, we should. Sonic Team should suffer for prioritizing these crossovers over giving us the big Sonic roster to rival CTRNF we mocked them for not doing for years.
>>527184707Sonic and Surge tied together by combi rings from Chaotix
one is a cock ring for sonic, the other is a clit ring for surge
>>527184842holy shit really?
>>527184272All those consoles are peak soulless goyslop. Gaming is mostly dead nowadays.
>>527184535They can be real if you believe
> He ASKED for no pickles!!
>>527184410We're going retro with a new Nintendo monopoly like back in the 80s. We need a new SEGA and Sonic to rival them.
>>527185031OMG, it's 4K Ultra Realisitc Movieails!
>>527185172I thought the PS5 was doing well, I guess not well enough
>>527185103:D
>>527185030If you played Chaotix, you know how brutally painful that would be.
>>527185172Crossworlds will fail spectacularly, dooming the franchise way more than 06 or Boom. Sega will create a new mascot, then announce a brand new console.
I won't engage with the avatarfagging pedophile.
>>527185292>Silver when he finds the Iblis Nigger
>>527185469What about the Iblis Kiker?
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mmmm
>>527184729Phew! That was TIGHT!
>>527185304I might replay Murder one of these days, I noticed I don't remember a lot of the story anymore. I enjoyed it a lot since you spend most of the game with Tails lol
>>527185597That's Mephiles.
>Tailsfag spam and avatarring again
We're in the bad hours.
Would this be a good way to simplify Whisper's design?
>>527185752It has been like this 24/7 at this point.
>>527185634At first I read "I might murder one of these days" kek
I should play it too one day but eh it sounds kinda IDW-esque idk. But I shouldn't judge a book by it's cover
>>527185603>whitethe most attractive race
>>527185175>filenameContext?
>>527185885italians are not white
Tails vs. Blaze
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WuCUkRBHZ3I
>>527185790It's already pretty simple--maybe make the gloves all black?
>>527185790the canisters are important to the lore so no
>>527185423>Crossworlds will fail spectacularlyThat's not happening lol. Every single journo preview has been extremely positive, Crossworlds beat RE9 at the SGF awards, and the game has Hatsune Miku in it.
does Sonic's groin sweat when he runs so fast and how good does it smell?
>>527184272What kinda retard bought a steam deck?
>>527186128Shut the fuck up, it will flop
I broke my fingers
I failed you, Knuckles
I think I understand Sonic, but I cannot fall into that trap. I have to keep learning about Sonic until my brain is the wind.
>>527186128it will be a huge flop
>>527185423That's an overreaction. It's a spinoff racer. It flopping might do good in fact by showing Sega we want the extended Sonic cast to be used instead of just crossover characters.
>>527186128Unfortunately. Journalists love soulless Sonic.
>>527184396i don't think any of this is going to affect the brainrotten dead-eyed automatons for whom everything must be dissected, analyzed and placed into the correct sections on the fandom wiki. they're ian's target audience
>>527186128this SHIT will flop hard
>>527186128Those journos were paid off
>>527186363INTA but i ll blame both the price and the system requirements when almost everyone is still stuck at 1000's G Forces and 16's GB
>b-b-b-but i have ultra gcard and five gachimillion gbsSay that to the most average vanilla cookie-cutter gamer
>>527185875I sound dangerous lol
Oh you didn't play it? Well at least it's easily accessible. I think it took me like 3 hours to play it the day it released
Ian Mutchler only wrote Murder, some of the official YouTube animations, and a single story for IDW, in the 2022 annual, but I don't think I've read that one
>>527186443Or instead they will blame the game's failure on the inclusion of extremely obscure characters like Blaze and Cream
>>527186856now, taking a deep breath and being sensible, you don't know that. you just made that up. you're lying to yourself and to everyone else.
>>527186128Those journos are getting paid to say positive things
>>527186128itโs an obvious money laundering scheme, Shitga is ran by the Yakuza you retarded bitch
On a scale of 1 to 10, how ugly would their baby be?
>>527187081>you don't know thatYes I do, it's called intuition. Reviewers hate Sonic and this is an easy game to mock, SEGA paid them to not mock it
>>527187434>intuitionyou're a big stupid poopy pants and this is why nobody likes you or the posts you make.
Make the seethe less obvious, fag.
>>527187618It's a kart racing game that doesn't have Mario in it. What makes you think anyone cares about it?
>>527187738my intuition, which is infallible.
>>527187428i want to lick the strawbetter shortcake whipped frosting off her dress.
>>527187738It has spongebob and ninja turtles in it. Even Kuta is excited. he said he likes both
>>527187738You are so fucking braindead it's not even funny.
>>527187796No it doesn't lmao, you're just lying to yourself and to everyone else
>>527187884oh? prove me wrong
>>527186128This shit is such an obvious flop waiting to happen
>he wrote a sonic story
>it doesn't mention the wind
>>527187418>Shitga is ran by the YakuzaContext?
>>527186128Is saying this in a total neutral way, but it's pretty surprising jounarlist and people who played the game in general, are saying the game can be even better than the new Mario kart, the only other game that actually achieve that was crash team racing nitro fueled.
I cant tell about the mario comparation, because I never played but people that are not actual fanboys says Mario kart 8 was better, is it true?
>>527187036Blaze and Cream are not obscure. The fact they have no obscure characters is partly why I'm not buying.
>>527187971>It's not themetic>it has no clash between character archetypes>it does not depict sonic as le absolute good at every chance possibleWhat is this? Archie?
>>527188260SEGA thinks they are obscure nowadays
>>527188278Honestly a red flag for any Sonic fanfic
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>>527186128Crossworlds is going to have the same fate as Fatal Slop COTW.
>>527187428The same? You can be darn sure, is gonna be a clone of both, because in this franchise, hedgehogs always look the same.
TOOT TOOT SONIC WARRIOR
DEEP IN SPACE AND TIME
TOOT TOOT SONIC WARRIOR
FOREVER IN YOUR MIND
NOTHING CAN SURVIVE THE WILL TO STAY ALIVE
CAUSE IF YOU TRY
YOU CAN DO ANYTHING!
spongebob for edgy boys (but safe!)
>>527187940Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing sold 1 million copies and nobody is playing it
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed sold 1.36 million copies and nobody is playing it
Team Sonic Racing sold less than a million copies and nobody is playing it
Mario Kart 8 sold 67 MILLION COPIES and EVERYBODY is STILL playing it after ELEVEN FUCKING YEARS
Nobody is going to look at CrossWorlds and think
>Wow, Sonic is whoring himself out to Spongebob in a shitty Mario Kart ripoff that nobody cares about and getting cucked out of having proper games about him? Sure I'll buy "his" new game and play it instead of the actual game everyone is playing!It just isn't happening. Nobody gives a shit that Sonic is kart racing with Steve from Minecraft or whatever
This guy has done this every single year since Frontiers was at TGS.
>>527188359I still cant believe the new fatal fury games exploded like this, I wasn't expecting ultra high numbers, but man what happened to this video game is kinda heartbreaking, everyone knows the king of fighters, but it looks no one know Kof is a crossover game using characters from other fighting snk franchises/games. Is even more surprising a game having mai shiranui blowed up like this, specially after how much fatal fury content collaborations we had in a bunch of games, specially talking about street fighter 6.
>>527188697Break like the wind, Sonic!
>>527188742and what if it does? what if your hypothesis is proven wrong?
>>527188697All this excessive praise is quite suspicious. It's giving me a seriously bad feeling about this game.
SONIC'S FINALLY DONE IT! HE'S DEFEATED MARIO!
>>527186189Does Deerboy have a name? They put him on that big spiral with all the characters
I told you, this franchise is garbage but you wouldn't listen, freaks.
>>527189184dragonball for adult women
>>527189305furry batman for babies
>>527189117literally a decade ago these same people were biased against sonic or gave unfair reviews. now that things have turned around and there's positivity it's a bad thing?
>>527188945The guy samefagging that post.
>>527186128He used the same "paid off journalist" and "Yakuza money laundering scheme" arguments for Frontiers and Supserstars too. He picks a post to obsessively samefag, and starts bringing up everyone getting "paid" to lie for SEGA.
>>527189435Stop doing that.
>>527189435idk what that is but go on...
>>527189253The porn is good at least.
>>527188319Yeah, SEGA's pretty retarded.
>>527188985>it doesIt doesn't
>your hypothesisI only stated facts, objective truths that are easily observed
>but what ifThen the situation is very sad because Sonic alone can't sell tens of millions, but he does if he whores himself out to a bunch of random series. Either way this game is a lose/lose situation for Sonic and by extension Sonic fans
Enough about the masses. Are YOU buying CrossWorlds? WIll YOU play it online?
Oh nooo, Crossworlds will flop and tank the entire franchise, it's over for Sonic, Sonic is DEAD
>>527190254>and tank the entire franchiseThis isn't happening, but CrossWorlds is still a very sad game, whether it succeeds or not
>>527188816SNK resurrecting a dead and mostly forgotten franchise like Fatal Fury and then overhyping it to death with unnecessary advertisement plus having CR7 and some random DJ as guest characters was a serious mistake. They should just have continued with supporting KOFXV and Samurai Shodown instead of abandoning them in favor of COTW.
>>527189939>whores himself out to a bunch of random series. Either way this game is a lose/lose situation for Sonic and by extension Sonic fansthese sentences disagree with each other. you're just stringing bullshit together...
>>527190210It can make some multiplayer fun but I got no one to play with. those whom I know think Sonic is obscure shit.
>online playmeh
>>527190325Have you considered updating your Duo model with the art from the later riders arc issues?
I, I, I love little girls
They make me feel so good
I love little girls
They make me feel so bad
When they're around
They make me feel like I'm the only guy in town
I love little girls
They make me feel so good
>>527190390I think it will probably be good and well received by critics. Commercially I don't know
>>527190474They don't. Even if the game makes them a ton of money, it won't be good to Sonic fans because it will be due to the crossover garbage
>>527190485So your answers are no and no. No one is playing this game, not even the people who claim it will be fun (aka you)
>>527190512He looks like a chad in the Riders arc, so I think I should.
>>527188742People are still playing Super Circuit, Double Dash, DS, and Wii too. 64 is even getting ported to Dreamcast by fans.
>>527189939you want a true reality check? the game's pre-sales are already surpassing SxSG. the deluxe edition is a top seller on the PS store. and the standard edition is in the top 10 in steam charts in the UK. you are desperate to convince yourself Crossworlds will flop financially because it isn't Mario Kart 8 levels of success which is damn near impossible for any IP under the sun. No one expects it to surpass sales, sonic fans just expect it to reach at least 3-4 million copies realistically. It's not just crossovers that are carrying it if the gameplay is getting praised to hell and back.
>>527190451I guess they expected to use at their fullest the smash bros boost, a lot of third parties did this, like kingdom hearts, persona and mega man.
>>527190325It's Bonsoir the Dude! Sega should make you a guest character in Crossworlds!
Don't bother, the next cope will be "it will be dead after a month" which still means nothing to Sega in the grand scheme of things since they already siphoned enough money from everyone to go beyond SXSG sales and that's all they care about
>>527190742Notice how none of those have Sonic in them
>>527190810>at least 3-4 million copies realisticallyThat's not realistic at all. SEGA doesn't invest in marketing that much for these games. If you want realistic, it's 2 million at most (and that's being extremely optimistic)
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Brainrotted Modernwhores just need to accept that their shitty series is selling out to Spongebob and Miku because nobody cares about Modernshit. Modernslop can't stand on its own so it needs to take from better more popular franchises to keep itself afloat. Notice how all the desperate crossover shilling is contained to Modernshit? It's not a coincidence.
>>527190541>part 2is there a part 1 and 3?
>>527188359Unlikely, the people who will buy the game for Miku alone will be more people than the peak players on Steam for COTW
>>527191047Based classicchad!
>>527191006>>527190810Meant to reply to this
No one is seriously expecting Crossworlds to outsell MKW, the idea is for the game to simply do well
>>527190701>Even if the game makes them a ton of money, it won't be good to Sonic fans because it will be due to the crossover garbagethere are literal sonic fans that have been nutting over the gameplay, you delusional fuck. you aren't the center of the fandom. outside of this bubble, everyone else has had positive impressions after playing it at SGF.
GUYS I HAVE THE LEAKS BUT THEY'RE ON MY TAIL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>527190704Shadow x stick started as a joke but ironically it started to grow on me. I mean shadow's practically sticks living conspiracy theory wet dream. Sound like a good theme for romance/joke drawings.
It is funny seeing people who's headcanons go against the actual canon seethe. Shippers especially.
>>527190701>So your answers are no and no. No one is playing this game, not even the people who claim it will be fun (aka you)That's accurate. But I still find it odd that you care that much what people will buy and play. why not just go buy your favorite game and watch things unfold as time goes on?
>>527191228WHY'D YOU BRING THEM HERE?!
>>527191228WHAT THE FUCK AMY WHY'D YOU BRING THEM HERE SOMEONE HIDE THE CREAM PORN STASH NOW
>>527191047Classicbab, if they would just use some of your characters, at least Fang and Mighty, I would have bought it. I can't believe they are making me agree with you.
>>527191047>MikuSEGA owns the game rights to Miku you retarded Classicbab.
>>527191006Why should I care about what it means to SEGA? I'm not an investor, I only care about what it means for us. And what it means to us is that we're getting crossover garbage in a party game nobody is going to play
>>527191208I see no reason to care outside of my bubble right now. If it's outside of my bubble it can't affect me in any positive way. Are you going to buy and play the game when it comes out?
I'm not expecting crossworls winning in sales against Mario kart, but they look like totally different experiences. What is disheartening to me, is how some dudes on this general actually want sonic to fail.
>>527191228SCRIBBLES, YOU ARE USUALLY MORE CAREFUL THAN THIS. YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST CONTINUED SCRIBBLING THE LEAKS.
>>527191458>Are you going to buy and play the game when it comes out?yes. does that fucking bother you?
>>527191228Don't worry Amy help is on the way!
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all female characters should be sexy
>>527191430Is surprised how at this point, people still don't know miku hatsune is part of sega.
I mean, I even forgot how many times vocaloid did collaborations with sonic and other sega stuff because they are way too many.
>>527191504It's not that I want sonic to fail. I just want crossworlds to because it's disappointing.
>>527191678DONKEY KONG NO YOU'RE ON PROBATION!!
>>527190634I don't care about "critics"
>I think it will probably be goodThe crossovers heavily soured my perspective on the whole game. The people trying to sell it don't believe in it on its own merit
>>527191592Why should it? I would like to have fun with this game too, I just don't think it will be possible. I don't see any way for this game to succeed as a Sonic game right now
Unfortunately though I think you're lying. You're only saying this now as a gotcha, you didn't reply here
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>>527191060Okay, but Crossworlds is only going to be a fad at best, being forgotten just as quickly as Superstars and Shadow Gens. Miku and the other guest characters won't be enough to give the game long-term support.
Sega should try to appease Sonic fans instead and not some random people that doesn't care about the franchise.
>>527191678>nu-KongBetter take your chances with the police, Amy.
>>527191458>I only care about what it means for usRetard, more money = more resources for the big games that come out every 4-5 years. That's the gameplan. Crossover slops will get dough from non-sonic fans that weren't going to touch the game otherwise no matter how good it was and we will get the benefits of that money in our main games.
>>527191504If this game succeeds it's not thanks to Sonic. People are saying they'll by the game for Miku. No one in this general (actual Sonic fans) is actually interested in playing the game right now. I want Sonic to succeed, but this game isn't Sonic
>>527191869The nonfans won. You just have to accept that.
>>527191869>Sega adds Miku>Conservatively they gained 30k sales from Miku alone, 60k liberally>Sega Adds Surge>Conservatively they gained 4k sales, 10k liberallyWhy should Sega have done the latter again?
>>527192009If they made more money from crossovers than they did with Sonic, they have no reason to invest that money they made in Sonic. They'll invest in more crossovers, or other things that make more money
Should I gen more Surge's fatass?
>>527191869Sega isn't looking for long term support, they want money. What don't you understand? These people aren't the types to get Sonic games even if they were made of gold and got 10s across the board. Being able to reach their dollar through external IPs is all that matters because Sega already has the money at that point and it doesn't matter if they drop the game in a day.
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Why does Modernshit continue to remain inferior to the Classic trilogy critically speaking? Why hasn't a Modernshit game dethroned Mania after almost 10 years? I'm almost seeing a pattern here. Moderniggers are obsessed with namefags, journalists, and ecelebs because a fantasy world of power brokers moving in the shadows, blocking and denying their hopes and dreams, is easier to accept than a world in which they fail in because the wish fulfillment garbage they are infatuated with and constantly shill for is not that exceptional except in how terrible it is in quality. It's okay, there's no grand conspiracy to keep your favorite infantile Modernshit power fantasy from being recognized for some misunderstood masterpiece. You just have shit taste and everyone else is rightfully laughing at your inability to cope.
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>>527192207gen sonic slapping it mid fight
>>527191228Initial D Amy Rose Stage.
>>527192024People were saying they were only going to buy it for Spongebob too. This game can actually reach that retarded 60 million sales mark anon said and I still wouldn't consider it a win for Sonic. It just mean more crossover slop and embarrassing proof Sonic himself doesn't sell.
>>527192120I don't give a damn about the comic characters, but to show Sonic has confidence in itself and have pride with the series instead of selling out. Any franchise at Sonic's size could add crossovers to sell more, but it's good to show restraint.
So did they ever explain why there are no humans (besides eggman) in IDW? There are constant references to game locations that are supposed to have them.
>>527192207yes and fatter
>>527191729>>527192024You don't talk for me, "real" fan, for me the game seems fun and im glad people are interested in crossworlds. Sonic is cool no matter the game, but he seems cooler in recent games, i'm glad other people can see it too.
why do comicfags and classicfags both struggle to accept that sonic is the wind?
>>527191047>>527192395Pipe down Classickek, your 2d games aren't standing well on their own either
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off topic but wow that aged like milk
>>527192618You don't talk for me either. I feel like Sonic is continuing to lose its identity and confidence with things like crossworlds.
>>527192506Exactly
>>527192618They're not interested in it for Sonic. SEGA doesn't think the game is interesting thanks to Sonic
>>527192095My ex was built like this, I still think about the sex
>>527192757>Sonic is continuing to lose its identity and confidenceThe 35th anniversary game is next year. You will get your Sonic only content very soon and Crossworlds will blow over like nothing happened. Stop doomposting
>>527192694Well it's all real juice, Anon! It doesn't last forever like Hi-C or competing artificially flavored beverages!
>>527192694What? Crash a franchise? Old ctr, or nitro fueled, because hard-core racing fans, says nitro fueled was the best kart game, even winning to mario kart 8.
Asa franchise? Totally, it got worse when. Toys for Bob got in charge while they had the genius idea to make a furry artist the leading artist since it's about time.
No one learned anything from sly Cooper?
>>527192973We still won't get the Classic Chaotix though.
>>527192207Let me see what I can do.
>>527192973Crossworlds was the chance for them to pull out the big guns and celebrate Sonic with a massive love letter roster, especially after the reception between TSR vs. CTRNF. They mostly chose not to. That hurts.
>>527193123I will always defend Sly Thieves in Time, but then I'm the apparent werido who says the first Sly is the best one.
>>527192973>The 35th anniversary game is next yearAnd what will that be?
>>527192757The future is now old man, learn to evolve and change or die in the past.
>>527193328SA3? Or maybe a SA2 remake?
>>527191575IS SHADALLYSCRIBBLE A LEAKER OR NOT I DON'T GET IT
>>527193328Frontiers 2 with even more Ian bullshit
>>527193123>bring back everyone for nitro fueled, even from poorly received Crash games>decide to wipe the slate clean with Crash 4 and ignore the post Naughty Dog gamesWhat were they thinking? Did the Sonic comparisons rub off on them in the wrong way?
Sonic characters and or /Sthg/ anons for this feel?
>>527193475>even more Ian bullshitNOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Enough with trying to make IDW canon to the games! Enough with the references! I'm sick of it!
You guys seem to think my criticism and disappointment with CrossWorlds is me wanting Sonic to fail. I want to enjoy the game, but SEGA isn't making this game to appeal to Sonic fans, and if I do buy it, I don't think there will be anyone to play it with. And I don't think I should need to specify, but I would prefer to play with Sonic fans. None of you talking about preorder sales are buying it either btw. You're not excited to play it once it comes out, you don't talk about the game, when I ask if anyone is going to play it I get no positive replies, you're just excited about how much you assume it's going to sell to people who don't like Sonic
And I'm not the person who started this conversation by the way, that was someone else. I only shared some facts and my opinion on the matter and you got upset at me for no reason
>>527193512Will this be in Crossworlds in Steve's victory animation?
>>527193409Not a chance.
>>527193475I can see that. Do you think they will improve the open world maps? I want them to be more Sonic-like but that's still hard to imagine imo.
>>527192694did it?
CTR is still the uncontested king of kart racers
it has a mechanical depth and fun factor none of the others even come close to
>>527193512What the hell is this garbage? Minecraft with foot fetish?
>>527193409You are close to overdosing on copium.
>>527192552I presume IDW is stuck with an older version of the guidelines that was still using two-worlds, like how Paramount got stuck with it for the first movie and they had to run with it. In-Universe, no explanation is given right now, but we know the human military was hit pretty hard during the Eggman War, so maybe the continents are in a worse state than the islands and human civilization is in shambles. We'll probably find out whenever we timeskip post-Frontiers, when Victoria appears.
>>527193629I agreed with you.
>>527193698>Do you think they will improve the open world maps?I want to say there's surely no way they can do worse than stock Unreal Engine test locations, but I'm not optimistic.
Having said that, the "open world" in Shadow Gens was better than anything Frontiers did so they clearly learned SOMETHING.
>>527193801I know, but I also got several angry replies and I don't understand why
It is a good thing there are people like Krack who will correct you about Shadow's characterization
It is a good thing that there are people like Randomfox who will set fire to the entire general if someone doesn't understand the wind
It is a good thing that there are people like Sparky who explain the characters with massive paragraphs
>>527193392The Meta Era never ended. It evolved.
>>527193629>when I ask if anyone is going to play it I get no positive replies, you're just excited about how much you assume it's going to sell to people who don't like SonicThis. Sonic fans are too obsessed with Sonic "selling well" when they should be more focused on the quality of Sonic games.
>>527193949fuck off krack
https://x.com/GamesCage_/status/1933238503648665962
BROS!!!! WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THE CORE 4!!!!!
>>527193885Segas issue has always been consistency. They'll put out something great, then seemingly learn nothing and take three steps back. Only to repeat the whole process over again.
>>527193776I just want Adventure kino back. All this CrossSlops junk is abysmal.
>>527193949>Shadow's characterizationWhy should we care about this?
>>527193409>SA3came out in 2006
>>527193494What i dont get is why they tried to change the artstyle, dammit nitro fueled practically perfected N.sane trilogy style and made everything 100% better, making it the ultimate crash artstyle, then they throw it all in the trash to use the horrid new one.
Redesing mascot characters will always be a bad idea, look at spyro, sly copper and pac-man when they tried it. The only ones I can think it kinda worked was Rayman and sonic.
Heck, with crash is even worse, because the radical entertainment era and crash of the titans were already an example of it.
>>527193949Eat shit, japcuck.
>>527186859Mimicifying Cream was just an excuse to draw this one singular expression
>>527193742That's a fact. CTR will always be the superior kart racer. Mario Kart sells way better but otherwise it's a boring and unfulfilling kart series.
It is a net positive that there are people here who are so emotionally invested in the japanese characterizations of Sonic characters that they will spend weeks on end insulting and harassing someone for getting a detail wrong.
It is a BAD thing that the amount of people here who understand such things is so small that you can identify them based on their postings and hyperfixations. That the only people here who seem to understand Sonic and Shadow are a yume and two windfags. Shame on you.
>>527194035>another shitty random crossoverAt least if these crossovers were something cool that makes sense I wouldn't be that mad at them. This year sucks for Sonic
>>527194035>Sonic breaking the classic and modern divide>but only when he's being a whore
>>527194020The selling well argument is so annoying. I get you are trying to use it to explain why corpos are doing it, but we're not corpos. We're fans wanting things to appeal to us. The selling well argument can be used to destroy things too. Should Sonic appeal to the brainrot skibidi toilet crowd because it would sell well?
>>527193949Who cares about these autists, retard?
>>527194172Wrong. It came out in 2008.
>>527194523How is that crossover breaking the Classic/Modern split? They have colored eyes
>>527193885>Having said that, the "open world" in Shadow Gens was better than anything Frontiers did so they clearly learned SOMETHING.I agree but it still has room for improvement. Like the the terrain itself is way too flat and the platforming is too linear and not open enough.
>2024 Year of Shadow
>2025 Year of Crossovers
What's 2026 gonna be?
I love Eggman, he is the peak of masculinity
>>527194323Tangle and Whisper are poorly written characters who have lost all of their potential in favor of brownie points that have no place in Sonic
>>527193949>It's good [NAMEFAG] does [THING]
>>527194729that's sonic adventure 4
>He's genuinely insecure that his entire understanding of Shadow has been wrong for years if not decades because he read shitty american comics
>>527194754Year of Kishimoto
>>527194150Do you really think modern Sega could pull off SA3? Shadow generations is good, but its SA2 stages are worse than the originals IMO.
Even sonic gens had to cut the day section from speed highway, because it wouldn't work with the new style.
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>>527194754>2026 Year of Silver
>>527194753That just comes from the drawbacks of the boost formula, I feel. Everything needs to be flat and linear because god forbid you try to turn.
>>527195042Is this Twitter or Tumblr?
>>527194754YEAR OF THE EGG
>>527195092>2026 Year of Zavok
>>527193475>>527193609Aren't they demoting Flynn out of the games now? Tailstube has basically undone the damage in the Frontiers 1 English script, and Crossworlds is synced to the Japanese audio for the first time in forever. I'm pretty sure SEGA got the message that people don't want another English/Japanese divide.
>>527193949This is all correct and based, it triggering people means it struck a nerve. People who hate Krack, Randomfox, and Sparky don't understand Sonic.
>>527190810>Dude Sonic is doing so well!!! The preorders for the new crossover racing game are on par with Death Stranding 2! [note: the original Death Stranding sold 20 million copies]>So you think it's actually competing with the new Mario Kart?>Um no actually I'm hoping for mayyybeee 4...... uhh 3 million copies at most everything goes well. By the way, I don't care about the game and I won't buy it myself
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>>527194692If you aren't a windchad, you aren't a Sonic fan.
>>527189253I'm a bit lost Duo, did something happen today that made it more apparently garbage to everyone than earlier?
>>527193949>Krack, Randomfox, SparkyOne of these is not like the others
>>527195092That's ain't gonna work bro, we need some resemblance of a game with him were he's written right first
>>527193949>It is a good thing there are people like Krack who will correct you about Shadow's characterizationYes
>It is a good thing that there are people like Randomfox who will set fire to the entire general if someone doesn't understand the windYes
>It is a good thing that there are people like Sparky who explain the characters with massive paragraphsYes
>Crossworlds will flop because... it just will
>It will be a failed mario kart clone because... IT JUST WILL OKAY
do you fags just feed on negativity. why is anything remotely good twisted to be "erm this is actually bad". you lot really want to believe sonic is still in the trenches when that's far from the truth now.
>>527195262I doubt it. Besides, it figures that Ian wouldn't be involved in Crosswords if he's already busy on Frontiers 2 instead.
>>527195042Toyoda localizes the comic, which means he has to read it, so he probably the only one at SoJ who knows the comic is ass.
>>527194312Crash 4 basically did everything wrong it could think of after such big successes for no reason. As much as I loved the N. Sane Trilogy, I never bought Crash 4 because of the decisions to drop the post Naughty Dog era stuff, the art change, and the fact I heard it wasn't fun to 100%. A lot of the fun for me was going for 100%.
>>527195042Damn, even Toyoda doesn't like the crying lesbians.
>>527195441I just found it funny that some people still have hope for Crossslop.
>>527195276>People who hate Krack, Randomfox, and Sparky don't understand Sonic.Every day on this general has only proven this true.
Seething because they won't agree with Shadow or Sonic pairings. Seething because Whispangle make a terrible couple and don't fit Sonic storytelling structure. Seething because Sonic is supposed to be a symbol. Seething because they have shitty headcanons that don't make sense with the games. Seething because there are people who actually like these characters for who they are.
This general is an embarrassment.
Is Mariotehplumber right?
I don't think I've ever seen anyone actually prove that Krack or Randomfox are wrong about Sonic. They'll just saying they're being a "Jap purist" or "too autistic about it". Basically blaming them for being passionate about Sonic instead of actually explaining how they are wrong in any way.
They aren't wrong. They know what they're talking about. They made you feel stupid because you grew up with western (American) misconceptions about Sonic.
>>527195485> sonic is still in the trenches when that's far from the truth now.Is it? 2024 was pretty good for us but even that was mainly an expansion pack to a 10+ year old game and a movie that isn't related to the games.
Until I see whatever the next mainline game is, I'm not giving SEGA any kind of benefit of the doubt.
Besides, I'm tired of Sonic Mario Kart clones, just give me a new Riders.
>>527195202>Emerald theming on the anniversary art>Emeraldville's reconstruction will almost certainly be a focal point in 2026 as a result>His glorious return is imminent The stars are aligning, it's happening
Sonic died with the dreamcast
For real dudes, I say this in a non shitposting way, I genuinely want to know why sonic fans are the worst doomposters, contrarians, whiners, internet fighters, and complainers of all the internet fandoms, bonus points if you add actually deviants, whores, porn addicts, psychos and mentally retarded people that represent our fandom to normal people.
Let's be honest this place and our fandom in general likes to fight and complain for everything, even when things look better to us, and we actually have a good tomorrow.
Why is krack trying so hard to glaze herself. We know it's you.
>>527195118>That just comes from the drawbacks of the boost formula, I feelThat's true to some degree because you can't really do any cool stuff with physics in boost games.
>Everything needs to be flat and linear because god forbid you try to turn.I don't know about that. Sloped terrain supports Classic Sonic games the most but it still can benefit other types of Sonic games because it's more interesting to look at than flat floors. Turning is also not an issue with boost games at least when it comes to open zone gameplay since that's where you have good turning in both Frontiers and Shadow Gens.
>>527195912Riders didn't make money and the kinect was a failure
>>527196024>I genuinely want to know why sonic fans are the worst doompostersHave you seen our fucking games?
>>527196024Massive fandom that likes children
>>527194312>with crash is even worse, because the radical entertainment era and crash of the titans were already an example of it.History repeats itself.
>>527195587Mm got it, makes sense. I had some measly hope but then crossover slop occurred. Surely it'll sell more now but it's not exactly what I wanna see, it's not looking too good lol
>>527196024Autism, they over analyze everything and try to gatekeep to have some sense of superiority, they unironically believe they are better than people who aren't fans of Sonic.
I want to be bred by Eggman
>Kishimoto politely calls Ian a shitty writer.
>"Man, IDW is garbage." someone says and Toyoda gives the comment a like.
Is Iizuka the only one at Sonic Team who likes Ian?
>>527195852Randomfox isn't a Jap purist, he just puts the games on a pedestal and thinks anything that isn't the games is garbage. He's a hardcore gamefag
>>527196183I don't care, Riders is an actually unique concept that isn't just "mario kart clone"
Just workshop it more.
>>527195912We are never getting a new riders game anon, its time to move on. Be glad the birds even get to show up in the new racing games.
>>527196364>Is Iizuka the only one at Sonic Team who likes IanIan's blowjobs must be legendary
>>527196413you have crossworlds at least to test the waters
>>527196413Riders fucking sucked dude, the gameplay was clunky as fuck
>S-SKILL ISSUE!!!pure cope
>>527195485I talked ad nauseam about why I don't care about crossworlds without saying it will flop this whole thread. Basically, all the crossovers feel insulting and show a lack of confidence in Sonic itself still.
>>527196229Most Sonic games are fun
You guys genuinely seethe at people for understanding the franchise better than you. You couldn't wrap your head around a shonen franchise for children.
Sonic the Hedgehog was too complex, too deep, for you. Pathetic.
You tricked yourself into thinking there's a "meta era" and that Shadow's character was "ruined after sa2" why? Where did this even come from.
You buried your head in the sand to the point that you blame all of this on a single person. Some people actually pay attention to Sonic games. Sonic GAMES. Not just comics and cartoons. Not just shitty fandom headcanons about "Shadow loving latinas" or "Sonic hates Amy".
Pathetic. You deserve fucktards like Evan who can't separate Sonic characters from the tumblr headcanons of her teenage years. You deserve shitty fanartists who enforce "wholesme queer headcanons" onto straight (yes STRAIGHT) characters like Tangle and Whisper.
The Sonic franchise isn't your hugbox.
>>527196364When did Kishimoto say this?
>>527195986No, Sonic died with SatBK. Everything else after that is just a fever dream.
>>527196661Lies! Lies! Lies! Aaaahhhhh!
>>527196765Oh...I'm glad I saved this
>>527196661We've had to endure 06, Boom, Forces and all manner of bullshittery in this fandom, the chance of SEGA pulling something like them again is never low enough to make me comfortable.
>>527196776That's where you draw the line. Mine is at SA2
>>527196259Crosslop will be a fad whereas MK will thrive and be played for many years.
>>527196364>"Man, IDW is garbage." someone says and Toyoda gives the comment a like.Do you have a screenshot of that?
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I don't care about understanding this franchise and its characters; I just like the cute animals and a couple of the women.
>>527196579>crossovers feel insulting and show a lack of confidence in Sonic itself still.no you're just looking too deep into something that isn't uncommon. fortnite does this. no one cares. smash does this. no one cares. dead by daylight does this. no one cares.
>>527196549Yes it was. I still blame the lack of a tutorial for a lot of player issues but the gameplay itself could absolutely be tightened up.
>>527196903>Friends try to have a Mario Kart World night on their discord>They couldn't fill half their lobby because almost no one wants or has a switch 2It's already dead jim
>>527196876I don't think Forces is comparable to the other two games you mentioned
I don't fully trust Sonic Team either but I've liked Shadow Gens and Crossworlds looks pretty decent
>>527196375>Randomfox isn't a Jap purist, he just puts the games on a pedestal and thinks anything that isn't the games is garbageI want to get on this level of Sonic
>>527196816sex with ... uhh ... fat furry thing...
>>527197105Didn't the Switch 1 sell poorly at launch?
>>527197105We just saw the biggest console launch in history and Sega refused to make Sonic a part of it
>>527196357Fight me, not even a satamfag/Archiefag, but I liked black sclera, red iris eggman. He looked so rad.
>>527197275>refusedin what way?
>>527196024People who struggle to understand japanese Sonic characterizations are less intelligent than people who do and this general is at its best when it's just windchads.
>>527197126Forces wasn't an absolute shitshow like the others, but it was indicative of the absolute worst and laziest a Sonic game could offer while still being playable.
>>527197239No, sold less than PS4 at launch but Switch 2 now hold the crown of best launch in history.
Previous record holder was like 1.4 million in 3 days, now itโs 3.5 million
>>527196024Sonic used to compete with Nintendo. Then Heroes came out, and the franchise slowly became a laughing stock. Thus fans have to play defense and endure ridicule...Sonic is only recently beginning to recover his reputation, somewhat.
>>527197275Most of Switch 2 sales was in Japan which is incredibly cheaper, I wouldn't expect the launch numbers to keep up as time passes
I sure feel like shit whenever I'm walking down the street and some hobo approaches me to tell me about how he knows more about drugs than I do.
>>527195594He's furiously samefagging/mass replying because this is true and he knows it deep down. All of those posters are autistic as fuck but they give far more of a genuine fuck about the franchise than 90% of the braindead retards shitposting in here. They actually care about Sonic's characterization and lore consistency, things that matter when you're a real fan and not just treating Sonic like some ironic meme playground nobody could ever genuinely care about. Krack, Sparky, and Randomfox are all examples of people who are attacked by nonfans who fundamentally hate the characters and the franchise at its core. They live in this delusional bubble where their fanfiction-tier headcanon is reality, so they immediately lash out at anyone who cares enough to correct them on basic, commonly-seen errors. Errors that, if left unchecked, eventually worm their way into the franchise itself through incompetent writers who browse forums and wikis instead of playing the actual games. The people trying to maintain some semblance of quality control are the only thing standing between this franchise and complete narrative collapse, but they get dogpiled by biological garbage disposals who think loving Sonic means you have to worship every piece of contrived slop with the Sonic logo slapped on it. The fact that pointing out objective errors generates endless aggressive seething from newfag immigrants from Reddit and Xitter just proves how far we've fallen. Anyone who hates someone who knows "too much" or is "too passionate/autistic" doesn't belong here and never will belong here, and eventually they'll abandon Sonic for some other property because they're so jaded they no longer feel passion for anything like they once did as a child. But until they do move on, they will continue hounding people who still do feel passion. They deserve to be bullied and ridiculed at every turn for being fake nonfan retards who ruin any legitimate discussion and purposely muddy the truth.
>>527196364>Source: my gay and trans ass.I swear this place hate boner for flynn is getting out of hand, specially because normal fans like the guy.
>>527196903How people don't ever get fatigued by Mario Kart in general? Those games are always the same thing with bland gameplay and garbage roster full of filler and questionable picks that no one cares about.
>>527197126Shadow Gens is just another boost game. It's on the same level as Sonic Colors and that game is only 7/10 good. We need a Sonic game that is 8-9/10 good.
>>527197194She's only interested in that egg cock
>>527197495seriously fuck off krack
>>527197476Weโre not talking Japan were talking worldwide.
>>527197275Crossworlds is coming to Switch 2 you fucking retard. were they obligated to make a game for Nintendo as a launch title or something? because the last time they did that, it didn't go well.
>>527197495absolutely based post
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>>527197652Japan's sales was counted in the worldwide sales
>>527197495We all love you, Krack.
>>527197583>It's on the same level as Sonic Colors and that game is only 7/10 goodShadow Gens has better level design and bosses than Colors. Most people agree with this
>>527185747I think Mephiles being named Dajjal would have been more appropriate, since iIblis is already named after an islamic mythological creature. The Dajjal is the Anti-Christ in islam, and it even translates as deciever, which is what Mephiles is best known for
>>527197564Because if you like kart racers, Mario is the only really competent one with active support.
The rest are either shovelware slop like Garfield Kart or clones like Crossworlds - and while I think Crossworlds looks fun, why would people play the clone when they can play the big one.
>>527197461>Sonic is only recently beginning to recover his reputation, somewhat.He did? I thought people just stopped caring about Sonic and that's why you are not seeing as much hate as you did in like 2015
>>527197495that's why noone like you
>>527197808and japan isn't the entire world
>>527196816God I wish I was her
>>527197583We are never getting a fully physics only sonic game again, too much effort.
>>527197808Yeah and world wide itโs the biggest console launch in history
>>527197495Everyone who hates windfags usually has some snapcube headcanon, ships whispangle, is a fan of uwuver, or some other pathetic tumblrism.
They aren't Sonic fans. They're people here for the aesthetic. People who talk like picrel. People who would destroy Sonic if they ever got to write for it.
>>527197038Bad comparison. Sonic started out as its own series for years. Smash was always a crossover series while Fortnite and Dead by Daylight added crossovers less than a year in. Yeah, we already had two racing crossover games, but that makes it more frustrating when Sonic's botched its only chance at its own racing game again with TSR in a humiliation ritual by Crash. Those two crossover racing games were also released in a harsh time for the Sonic IP. Let Sonic be Sonic again.
>>527197879mother fucker they couldn't even add 200cc at launch
>>527197721Itโs being delayed until next year for Switch, Sega skipped the launch and now Sonic will never get an audience on the platform.
Show up early or donโt show up.
>>527197925The movies garnered an incredible amount of good will recently. SA2 saw a huge uptick in players because of movie 3 back in January.
*SNIFF* *SNIFF* *SNIFF* *SNIFffffffffffffffff*
>>527197849I think Colors has better 2D sections because they feature actual 2D platforming.
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>>527197601she's just like me for real
sthg is the only general where people will hate you for understanding the main topic itself. If you know too much about Sonic people here will seethe. It's a personal attack to them that you won't go along with their shitty ideas.
>>527197969It wasn't nearly as successful as analysts and Nintendo fans were expecting, the expected number was 5-6 million sales on launch weekend, and they missed that mark by a very wide margin.
>>527198194keep trying. someone will eventually catch the bait
>>527198105It'll come eventually. That's the active support bro, that's how they get you.
I respect Krack and Sparky
>>527198194We hate you for being so fucking boring and retarded, it's not because you know a lot about Sonic.
>>527197461>heroes Dude, every fan knows the actual falldown started with shadow the hedgehog, and culminated with sonic 2006.
>>527197925Sonic is doing just fine since mania was thing and the first movie got its shit together, since then sonic is doing fine, we're talking about 2017-2020 transition, 5 years man.
>>527197547>Flynnfags playing dumb again.>>527195042
>>527198149believe it or not, female asses smell awful. I almost puked the first time I tried it
>>527198217And somehow no console or pc handheld has ever or will ever sell 3.5 million in that time frame.
This is enough that Microsoft shut down their native Xbox handheld plans to just rebrand those unsold Steam Decks to say Xbox
>>527198171Okay you're entitled to your opinion c:
>>527184272Don't worry the Dreamcast 2 is coming
>>527197958That's true but Sonic Team did make the level design in The Final Horizon less automated and more focused on 3D platforming and launching off ramps. I really hope that this type of level design will be more common in Frontiers 2.
>>527197983>Those two crossover racing games were also released in a harsh time for the Sonic IP. Let Sonic be Sonic again.Team Sonic Racing flopped partly because of its limited roster.
>>527198131>Sega skipped the launch and now Sonic will never get an audience on the platform.that's not how it works, dumbass. and what makes you think it would have made much of a difference since sonic isn't appealing to the Japanese audience?
Look at this guy. This is Sonic. There aren't "versions" of Sonic. There aren't "interpretations" of Sonic. There are adaptations of Sonic and most of them are absolutely worthless dogshit made by americans who either know nothing about him or want to change him into some shitty "comfort" character.
He's Sonic. He's great the way he is. He doesn't need your shitty changes. All he needs to be is free. He needs to embody that thing. That natural force. I don't even need to say the word, you already know it. Deep down, you agree that Sonic is at his best when he's portrayed correctly.
>>527198439Ikr, Surge's ass would smell like vomit.
>>527198493What does Japan have to do with this? Weโre talking the biggest console launch world wide in history not the biggest console launch in Japan
>>527198439You gotta wash yo ass, anon.
>>527197126Forces has worse gameplay than 2006.
>>527198692>What does Japan have to do with this? Weโre talking the biggest console launch world wide in history not the biggest console launch in Japanand? is sega supposed to rush sonic team to push out a title for them to sell? do you understand that is specifically why sonic x-treme got fucked over? or how 06 ended up the way it did?
>>527198439Faggots with that fetish have likely never smelled a female ass.
Why this place acts as if sonic is 100% a Japanese franchise when sega of America and sega of Japan do stuff together since sonic 2? We're talking about 1992, 33 freaking years. Even Japanese developers moved to America to make sonic games.
>>527198493>Team Sonic Racing flopped partly because of its limited roster.That was my point about the humiliation ritual by Crash. Sonic has tons of game characters it could pull from, but doesn't. TSR didn't even have the whole Chaotix.
>>527198962They should have had one ready, weโve known about the Switch 2 since 2023, hell CD Project Red started working on the cyber punk port in 2022
>>527198834You might get dunked on but I don't even disagree.
Classic in Forces is fucking horrendous, Modern is a boring Hold X To Boost Fest and the Avatar is generally the same as Modern but with the one saving grace of having different weapons for routes.
>Even Japanese developers moved to America to make sonic games.
That only happened because Naka felt undervalued at SoJ after Sonic 1
>>527199075>why this placeIt's literally one or two anons deluding themselves about Japan superiority.
>Shadow is ACTUALLY a demon alien
Did this retcon ruin Shadow?
>>527198898Short, straight line Modern stages and horribly designed Classic stages with autoscrolling, hidden springs, and bottomless pits close to where you walk, and the worst controls in the series.
Ian Flynn is not writing Sonic Racing Crossworlds.
Ian Flynn is too arrogant to write Sonic. He can't make any attempt at writing "wind" without mocking it right on the page. He grew up on Archie. He wanted to write archie. he encircled himself in Sonic and now he's stuck with it. He never wanted to be part of the game canon, he wanted to write the Archie canon.
If he had more control, he would just turn the game canon INTO the Archie canon. Hiring him onto the games was a mistake.
Evan is downright worse. Instead of getting her shitty headcanons from an OOC spinoff comicbook... she got them from her own fanfiction. She couldn't separate Silver from GOTF for twenty years. It's only now that we are finally free from that horrible trashfire.
Neither of these people ever wanted to write Sonic.
>>527198950Not really, he's just pulling his brows up like Spike
>>527199112>They should have had one readythey're not fucking obligated to do so. and why would you want them to do that after the Wii-U deal situation?
>>527199220RETURN OF THE KINGS
>>527199193Black doom undermines gerald more than anything.
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>>527198149>>527198439god made a special hole just for you
yet you choose the poop chute
>>527196024>even when things look better to usCrossWorlds doesn't look "better", it looks sad right now
>>527199075>Why this place acts as if sonic is 100% a Japanese franchise when sega of America and sega of Japan do stuff together since sonic 2? We're talking about 1992, 33 freaking years. Even Japanese developers moved to America to make sonic games.Shut up you stupid, transparent vegetable. You don't understand Sonic. Whisper and Tangle are straight.
All of those 90s Sonic titles had grossly different stories between america and japan. That's dissonance, not collaboration.
People like you should honestly be ashamed for joining arguments about Sonic while knowing nothing about it.
>>527199220Ah fuck this shit. Please tell me this is fake
I hope SoJ keeps a leash on them
>>527199193No
>>527199208>Short, straight line Modern stagesNothing wrong with that. That's how boost stages are except they also have drifting which allows the level design to feature more turns.
>horribly designed Classic stagesThey are not that bad. They are actually the best designed stages from Forces because they focused on platforming rather than cheap spectacle.
Krack is having a meltdown again
>>527199357>>527199193There is nothing wrong with this at all. People who think this is bad should just stay away from Sonic
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>>527199616I will support her uncondtionally in this.
What do you guys think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFPIbEK10r8&ab_channel=HowItShouldHaveEnded
>>527199193No, people hated it at the because it was a novelty idea, ironically people now embrace it at their fullest, shadow using a gun, and still having his black arms background in the games and the movie, prove it.
I never really hated it, but at the time felt like a radical idea to explain shadow background, when his original story was just being an experimental artificial military project.
>>527199558>Nothing wrong with that. That's how boost stagesFalse. The other boost games aren't like that. Even Forces itself has way better boost stages late in the game
>They are not that badThey're dogshit
>Classic stages are the only ones that focused on platformingYou haven't played the game
>>527199220>PontacIt's going to be Colors forced slapstick humor all over again, isn't it?
>>527198981yep. it is just a fantasy, actually doing it is vulgar as fuck.
>>527199734>I never really hated it, but at the time felt like a radical idea to explain shadow background, when his original story was just being an experimental artificial military project.What was Shadow's lore in SA2?
>>527199220Hopefully they can actually write the characters in character this time.
>>527197456>all the problems and complaints about the Switch 2 got sweeped under the rug to over double the launch sales recordI hate consoomers.
The franchise is in shambles. It doesn't matter if you like Japshit or Westslop. All that matters is Shadally.
>>527199326Silver's brows do not work like that
>>527199721I still haven't watched the movies bros
Say something nice about Sonic Heroes
>>527199896Huh? Where? I don't see anything.
>>527199220>Director: Tom TurnerIMDB is wrong, this game is being developed by SoJ
They're probably wrong about Pontac/Graff
>>527199891Shadow would never love Sally Acorn. She's the opposite of Maria.
>>527199801He was an artifical being created by Gerald for gun, because they wanted to create immortality, Gerald accepted because the project felt like a way to save maria from his mortal illness.
>>527199987It has a nice soundtrack and some good level aesthetics. But otherwise, this game cursed the series with Team Syndrome.
>>527185083Amy my beloved....and NuDKek...
>>527198194Imagine being an absolute knuckledragging retard who spends every waking moment of his miserable existence shitting on people who actually give a damn about Sonic while simultaneously larping as a "Sonic fan". The sheer audacity of these mouth-breathing smoothbrains is genuinely astounding. Yeah, being autistically obsessed with blue hedgehog lore isn't exactly the most productive way to spend your life, I'll give you that. But at least when someone's genuinely passionate about Sonic, they're FEELING something. At least they're engaging with the material on some level that goes beyond surface-level contrarian bullshit. But there are some absolute wastes of oxygen ITT who will sit there for hours crafting elaborate screeds and thread-derailing shitposts about how people are wrong for caring about Sonic all while expecting SEGA to cater specifically to their refined tastes that apparently extend to...what exactly? Sitting in threads complaining about shit they claim not to care about? Fapping to porn? The cognitive dissonance is fucking staggering. Some "people" here spend more time bitching about namefags than actual fans spend enjoying it. They know more about fanbase drama than they do about the actual games. They'll memorize every controversy, every autistic argument that's ever happened in these threads, but ask them about the franchise they'll give you some half-baked response they copied from a YouTube video. And the worst part is that they genuinely believe they're intellectually superior for this. They think this makes them more sophisticated than anyone who dares to find enjoyment in things. Imagine being so spiritually bankrupt that you build your entire identity around being the guy who shows up to ruin discussion by redirecting the conversation to meta namefag drama while contributing absolutely nothing of value yourself. At least the unironic Sonicautists are honest about what they are instead of hiding behind 10 layers of ironic detachment.
>>527199751>They aren't like thatHow so?
>You haven't played the gameI played it on release and I thought it was pretty fun. It's a solid 5/10
Sonic & Rival with alternate/remixed stages ere pretty kino
>Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Sonic and Knuckles
>Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic and Shadow
>Sonic Rush
Sonic and Blaze
>Sonic Riders
Sonic and Jet's squad
Why didn't Sega make more of those?
>>527199193No. Gerald and Black Doom's love for each other expanded lore.
>>527199987Why do you post this everyday
>>527200221This post gave me life
>>527200257Sega could have done that in Superstars. Wasted opportunity.
Can someone send me pics of Amy doing dynamic poses
>>527200257>Why didn't Sega make more of those?We don't need more new characters when Sega doesn't do much with other characters that already exist
>>527200257It's getting stale?
>>527199801Exactly what other anon said. He was a military project that got shut down and seized. The goal seemed to be creating a lifeform that could utilize the properties of the chaos emeralds to their fullest extent. GUN even has three of the emeralds in their base.
Biolizard can even use things like chaos control, but is much less stable than shadow.
Don't mind me, just stopping by to drop off a link. See you all next week, enjoy!
https://archiveofourown.org/works/65052328/chapters/170524243
>>527199987A bonkers soundtrack, good use of all the sonic cast, and basic but cool story.
Probably my favorite sonic 3d game, but my nostalgia is talking.
>>527200164>>527199801>>527200424Was the Shadow that was sealed at Prison Island was a replica by Gerald or the original Shadow that was ejected towards the surface and recovered?
How do we know that SA2 Shadow isn't just a faker?
>>527199896https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32607370/
It's right there on IMDB
>>527200507Tried it. Dogshit fanfic based on westhsit headcanons that doesn't respect Sonic as a franchise at all.
>>527200238>How so?Play them and you'll see. They are way more involved. More is asked of the player. There are more decisions to make. Colors especially is full of 2D platforming, like the later stages and the unlockable stages in Forces, but longer and with better level design
>I played itYou either didn't or it's been so long you don't remember what the game is like
>>527200424>The goal seemed to be creating a lifeform that could utilize the properties of the chaos emeralds to their fullest extent. GUN even has three of the emeralds in their base.How did they get the emeralds into the security hall when Sonic and Knuckles collected them in SA1?
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"Umm, give Evan a break guys. *taps the sign*"
No. Fuck you. She isn't writing some wattpad Sonic fanfic. She's writing officially released Sonic stories now. She doesn't get the luxury of mercy. She doesn't get to just show her "interpretation" of Sonic. She needs to write SONIC. I'm tired of you fucking retards who make excuses.
>>527200507>harem fanficNah, sorry. I pass.
>>527200584IMDB is wrong, the director is a SoJ employee. Westerners aren't involved in the active development
>>527197275Good, fuck Nintendo's shitty handheld.
>Sonic
City Escape
>Shadow
Radical Highway
>Sonic
Green Forest
>Shadow
White Jungle
>Sonic
Final Rush
>Shadow
Final Chase
We pretty much start the game seeing Shadow in the capsule, about to be launched into space to earth by his best friend, whoโs seconds away from being shot (or already shot) by a GUN soldier.
Then, we get near the end of the game with the roles swapped; Sonic is in the capsule about to be launched into space while he watches as Eggman threatens him by aiming a gun at Amy.
Kino.
>>527200626But you tried it. Thanks!
>>527200784Just say that she needs to represent the characters and not reinvent them.
>>527200563There's only one shadow in SA2, the concept of clones and stuff didn't come up until later entries.
Even then those are eggman clones, GUN wasn't capable of cloning him.
For majority of players Switch 2 is going to be their main platform is Switch 1 was anything to go by. Now forgetting that Sonic Team likely got no dev kits for quality reasons even if they did, as Sega the last thing they want is Sonic representing them on a new system.
Itโs why Yakuza 0 and Raidou were picked as their stamp.
Yakuza, SMT, Puyo Puyo, and Two Point Museum all were shown during the Switch 2 direct and all got gameplay footage prior to launch, Shadow Gens didnโt due to them not wanting Sonic making them look bad, heโll TSR2 isnโt even launching on Switch 2 until next year.
>>527200563>Was the Shadow that was sealed at Prison Island was a replica by Geraldno
>or the original Shadow that was ejected towards the surface and recovered?yes
>How do we know that SA2 Shadow isn't just a faker?because they dropped the plotline entirely and his story would make absolutely zero sense now if they reintroduced it, this isn't fucking Metalgear.
most likely it was part of the original plan to "revive" him instead of Heroes' "android" plot that also basically went nowhere
Sonic is the wind. He can't be tied down by anything. He will whore himself out because he's free. Crossworlds is the ultimate wind game because of this. If you don't like Sonic whoring himself out to other properties, you don't understand the wind or Sonic.
>>527200784It's honestly interesting that she got away with enforcing her own headcanon onto characters for as long as she has. Really goes to show how little Sega gives a fuck about the comic.
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This thread is a fucking disaster.
Have any of you tried not being negative all the time
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>>527200784Based. Nobody gave Pontaff any leniency or mercy when they proved they know nothing. Nobody should give Ian or Evan any mercy either. If they can't handle the criticism they should fuck off and go back to writing fanfictions and fancomics.
>>527200989White jungle is my favorite SA2 speed stage.
>>527200989SA2 has an seriously overrated plot.
>>527201071So is your love life but at least the thread is progressing
>>527201054Sega doesn't care about Silver and Evan Stanley is the biggest symptom of that.
>>527201131We should be more primitive
>>527201131I'll stop being negative when Sonic stops being shit by catering to my specific ideals of Sonic from the early 2000s
>>527200650>They are way more involved.That's only true for Unleashed because it has a higher skill floor.
>There are more decisions to makeBoost games are famous for focusing on your reaction speed instead of on decision making.
>Colors especially is full of 2D platforming, like the later stages and the unlockable stages in Forces, but longer and with better level designI agree. Colors had really 2D level design.
>it's been so long you don't remember what the game is likeI haven't played it since like 2018/2019 so maybe you are right.
>>527201298No, I'm a winder. The wind will set us free. We also need Pomni in Crossworlds.
>>527201160Fans are hyper defensive of the IDW writers because of their activism and parasocial social media presence.
>>527201365>chris chan shirtlol
Yakuza is Segaโs flagship now?
>>527199193>retconBlack Doom is teased in SA2 before Shadow makes his first ever appearance.
>>527201054>>527201267Silver has no story post-06, so all we have is headcanon.
>>527201451>Silver gets blaze AND whisperNo wonder he hangs out in the past all the time.
>>527201561Iโm pretty sure itโs Persona thatโs their bread and butter now. Executive shenanigans might be interfering with P6 (I sure as hell hope not but this IS SEGA after all)
>>527200507Do you plan on featuring other female characters in the fic?
>>527201629He still has the 06 backstory. It defines his entire character.
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>>527201639Shut pup
pastrify yourself
>>527201639You don't hate me and I know that because I sleep under your bed watching what you do in sthg.
>>527201796>He still has the 06 backstory.Nta, but I've been hearing you Silverfags go back and forth with this guy's backstory so much I don't think any of you even know what it is anymore.
>>527201736P6 is in limbo because the team behind 5 didnโt want to do it and the other team needs training on remakes, theyโre also still trying to figure out if they should do an Xbox or Nintendo brand deal this time since PS is off the table for Persona now.
An artificial hedgehog uses the real the emeralds and a real hedgehog uses an artificial emerald.
At their first meeting in San Francisco, Sonic felt as if he were staring into a dark mirror of himself, the fake hedgehog. Later, when they met in Green Forest/White Jungle, Shadow turns the tables, accusing Sonic of being the pale reflection of himself, the ultimate lifeform. Finally, we come to this scene, where Sonic has just used Chaos Control to warp out of the exploding capsule with a "fake" Chaos Emerald, a technique he learned by watching Shadow, the "fake hedgehog," perform it with a "real" one. They learn here that neither of them was the faker, and both of them were the real deal. After all, the "fake emerald" was indistinguishable from the real one because it had the same wavelength and properties.
>"So, there's more to you than just looking like me. What are you anyway?"
>"What you see is what you get, just a guy who loves adventure!
>"Your adventuring days are coming to an end."
You can feel he's for real, he wants to kill Sonic.
The situation is desperate, he needs to settle this with his newfound rival as soon as possible, and then go back to the Control Room, to fulfill Maria's "wish".
There was something special about them both finally reaching (what they thought was) the end.
This is where Sonic's writing peaked.
Shadally mind broke this general
>>527201561They were trying to make it their flagship during the Sonic drought and then the movie was a success.
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>>527201365This drawing is cope to make Classic fans look stupid when everyone knows Moderntards are intellectually disabled shit-eating thirdworlders. Every Modernshit game has only been half-hearted, mediocre cash grabs with nothing to offer and only serves to keep this once great franchise hostage. They only cling to Sonic because it's the only identity they have. They're not Sonic fans. Just losers that found their little safe space and can't let go. The only thing these Modernkeks have brought to the table in the last decade is mediocrity at best and cringe at worst. Sonic used to be able to topple Mario, now it's choking on the cock of more relevant franchises in order to stay afloat.
I want Shadow to destroy me with his BBC
>>527201629>Silver has no story post-06Rivals is non-canon then?
>>527201935these bread pictures makes me think of someone cutting them into slices and eating them
which makes me sad
>>527201978He still has the apocalyptic backstory but forgot the events of 06.
>>527202071I want Eggman to destroy me with his BWC
>>527201986>PS is off the table for Persona now.Why do Japanese devs hate PlayStation now?
>>527202071Shadow's cock is average-sized and pinkish tan and he's a sub. real Shadow fans know this.
>>527202023Sonic is the true ultimate lifeform, shadow even says so during the final biolizard fight. This of course is never brought up again and shadow starts calling himself the ultimate lifeform again, because Sega can't remember their own stories.
>>527202150So how does Eggman Nega exist when Eggman died in 06?
>>527199220>Ian defenders admitted that he's not better than meta era writers
>>527202071Fuck off and stop watching porn.
You little thieves, did you really think you would get out of here alive?
>>527201986>theyโre also still trying to figure out if they should do an Xbox or Nintendo brand deal this time since PS is off the table for Persona now.Why? Even though Shin Megami Tensei has usually been more of a Nintendo thing, Persona's always been a PS thing. They're fucking retarded if they go Xbox instead since rumor has it they're exiting the console business.
>>527199220I hope this is real I hate Ian's writing more than Pontaff's
>>527202130Maybe the person eating them is an Intermittent Fasting chad and eats the whole.
Also cartoon logic dictates that they'd probably live.
>>527202335Never answered. Either Eggman survived the carrier explosion in 06 or there's even more timefuckery we don't know about it.
>>527202390Come AND get SOME, Eggman!
>>527202243Bottom Shadow is hot
>>527202319Sonic doesn't care about the title, and Shadow forgot SA2, so he gets to keep it. Sonic happens to be the ultimate lifeform, but Shadow was created to be the ultimate lifeform. He gets to keep the title regardless
The difference between Ian, Pontaff, and Fowler is that while the latter two make ooc stuff, they have no headcanons. These aren't autistic fans writing their ideas to "improve" the franchise. They're people doing a job. It's hard to be mad at them.
>>527202420>>527202181Sony and them got into it over Persona going multiplatform in the first place, but even then Atlus blames Sony for limiting their sales
>>527202601SA2 models look old
like it was supposed to be the last Sonic Adventure
why do people like them?
>>527202319>Shadow thinks heโs about to die and with a fleeting moment of humility given to him by impending death admits to himself that Sonic may be the ultimate life form after all >*lives*>โlmao that blue faggot could never have TANKED falling face first into the earth like I have. Fuckinโ pussy could never be the ultimate life form after all.โ Itโs really that simple anon.
>>527202150>His naivety can sometimes lead him astrayHappened like once because he got manipulated by an actual manipulating god
>He can't remember how he saved his timelineWhat is this suppose to mean? do they have to add that shit? it's like saying Sonic help stop the time eater even tho he almost cause everyone to die
Post your genuine criticisms of Ian Flynn
You know I'm going to be petty too and reply to ships calling them platonic.
>>527202664Which one, Shadow getting femdom'd by a woman or Shadow having his guts rearranged by a man?
>>527202082Nobody, not his fans or Sega themselves knows what Silver's backstory is because he's that bad of a character. You'll hear multiple different things about his this character works.
>>527202601Overrated game.
Sonurge is objectively more interesting than Sonamy. Change my mind
>>527202819He awakens a fire in my nether regions like never before seen.
>>527202735Pontaff didn't want to write SA2 because they weren't familiar with the franchise and Fowler bought a Dreamcast just to understand Shadow better. Flynn doesn't understand basic things and doesn't look any further than wikis. He's a fraud unlike them.
>>527202528I don't know. Lots. I'm rewriting someone else's story that he abandoned. He had a lost of 50+ characters but I not going to use that many. A lot were ocs in not familiar with or characters I don't like, like Cosmo. Maybe 20 - 30 by the end of it. There are a lot of female characters in Sonic media but quality > quantity. You hoping for anyone in particular?
>>527202864Shadow having his guts rearranged by a man
>>527202942They don't like on another.
>>527202819He's pretty fly for a white guy
>>527202942Sonic x Wind x Adventure > Sonamy > Sonurge
>>527202925SA2 is masturbated to frequently because nothing else has delivered
>>527202942Sonic shouldn't be in a committed relationship. He only loves the wind and being a whore.
>>527202819he needs to try and write something that isn't winking at the viewer as if it's nu-star wars
>>527203015Ian doesn't research the characters because he already considers himself an expert
This time, I'll take your lives as well as the Chaos Emerald. I call on you to destroy these pests. Come out, my servant!
>>527202335I don't think Eggman ever died in 06, not even in the timeline where Elise is presumed dead. Eggman has machines blow up in his face all the time, you think a little crash will hurt him? Especially considering he ejects himself in the "better" timeline? He just doesn't have spare space for Elise.
>>527202082We know Rivals is canon since it's referenced in ShadGens Gerald journal. It's just not listed in the timeline since it got no Japanese release, but it was written by the Japanese I think and plot elements like Silver's reintroduction and Nega revealed as being from the future were also canonized.
>>527202819Stiff writing.
>>527202942Nah, you do you and I'll do me.
>>527203302I think you like boring shit
>>527203313Would Sonic be better if it was written like One Piece.
>>527203015Ian thinks he knows better even though he doesn't do proper research. To him, everyone else's ideas are bad while his are good. He's egotistical like Penders who also didn't look at other people's work when he wrote, but the difference is Ian tries to feign persona of being humble and down-to-earth while Penders doesn't think he needs to pretend because he believes there's nothing wrong with his behavior.
>>527203268>We know Rivals is canon since it's referenced in ShadGens Gerald journalAre you referring to an in-game journal or the western slop extra?
I am the Eggman, that's what I am
I am the Eggman, I got the master plan
I am the Eggman, that's what I am
I am the Eggman, I got the master plan
Now goโฆ and squash that blue hedgehog, Sonic!
>>527203048Shadow is such a pompous cold loner who doesn't like to show weakness, so imagine mindbreaking him into a moaning drooling whore for human cock. All of his dignity gone, his face flushed and covered in tears and sweat and saliva from being fucked by a person twice as big as he is.
>>527203394I think you like self-insert slop.
>>527202601very homosexual
>>527202819He only has two writing styles; Overly melodramtic or Family Guy tier references.
And they're both shit.
>>527201978>>527202082>>527202150>>527202335>>527202595See you guys can't bully Evan when Sonic Team can't decide who this character is
>>527203419Pre-skip because nothing post is good except for Zou and WCI.
>>527203218And his source of reference for his expertise? Archie!
>>527203438Anon...
They're the same. And while I'm not sure if the physical version was published in multiple languages, the in-game I'm pretty sure is, since that's how we know "T" stood for "Torii"
>>527202802Ian just thinks Silver's naivety makes him retarded and that's the reason he fell for Mephiles even though Blaze also fell for Mephiles. He wrote him as a gullible believe anything idiot in Archie too.
>What is this suppose to mean?In the ending of 06 all of the disaster was undone at the cost of everyone's memories. This means Silver's future was restored and Blaze was warped safely back to her dimension in turn for them forgetting their time together along with the rest of 06. Don't ask me for Blowing out Solaris cause that specifically to happen to Silver that's just how the culmination of 06's themes works.
>>527198171So I'm not the only poster here who likes the platforming in Colors, good to know
>>527203602I surely fucking can
>>527203548This panel feels like a literal e-celeb apology thumbnail
>>527202819I hate how he's completely limited the characterizations to what's in his head. He also lacks a severe understanding of their fundamentals.
>>527203045I'm just hoping for game characters in general, no matter if they are classic or modern ones. I would like to see Perci, Staci and Zooey from Boom in it though.
>>527203602I honestly think it's an opportunity to make a good origin story, something like 06 but actually new and captivating that can relate to rivals, heck maybe they should remake rivals all together
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>>527203456hot, I want to get Shadow into a vulnerable position just for me
>>527203602The "plan" to expose mimic here was so retarded.
Whisper has a mask that is constantly recording everything, and is a talented sniper who stays out of sight. She couldn't just watch and record duo for a couple days?
>>527203736*Don't ask me how blowing out Solaris causes that specifically to happen to Silver
I'm tired
>>527202819he exists in my reality
whose the closest sonic character to her personality?
Kind hearted yet naive
Loves eating and sleeping
Love animals and adopting them and people
Doesn't know what sex is
Murders the living fuck out of bandits and enemy soldiers without a care
Love little sisters
this add up to any sonic characters
>>527204010Everyone needed to be retarded and ignorant for the plot to work.
>>527203628Egghead's better than Zou
>>527202819He can't stand leaving anything even slightly vague and has to force every argument to have one side very obviously be heavily favored by the story.
>>527203960He's edging (nsfw)
Stupid fat wolves need to be fucked
>>527203564What does this mean?
>i think i wanna draw both of them interactingWhat does this mean also?
>>527204010>Whisper has a mask that is constantly recording everythingyou didnt read the comic
>>527204027Cream the Rabbit
Which sonic character would most likely have Bankai?
>>527203464Anon, lots of women self-insert as Amy in Sonamy
>>527200563He's was always the original in adventure 2, in sonic heroes they use the red herring idea of him being an android, but omega explained to rouge if eggman was making serialized androids based on him, the original had to be somewhere, is pretty obvious too in perspective he was the original, because he was the only shadow sealed in a different room while being custodied by omega, the only e-series robot powerfully enough defeat him.
In shadow the hedgehog if you play for 10 minutos, eggman explains how he saved him from earth's orbit in adventure 2, and says to him he's actually the original shadow.
>>527204298>BankaiContext?
>Ian: Honestly when I first started writing, Sonic was the hardest one to get behind because he was such a jerk. He was such an ego maniac. This is the jock, this is the guy who would make my time at school hard. I have to make this guy likeable. Ehhhh. What I eventually found with him was to break him away from how he had been written previously.
>Ian: It's a few things. Number one, I'm really not new to ridicule. I was on the low end of the social order throughout my entire school career. No lasting damage there...so I already have a low opinion of myself so when someone says "you're a hack", I'm like "Eh, you're probably not wrong. The thing is I still get work, so I must be hacking something right."
Ian is a loser. Ian's fans are losers. That's why almost all of them are mentally ill nerds on titty skittles who use slice-of-life tea party fanfictions to cope with their shallow lemming-esque life. IDW fans actually expect someone who has lasting trauma and low self-esteem from being bullied at school to write a character who's supposed to be the coolest trendsetter around. Ian is literally terrified of social repercussions and backlash, which is why he spent over a minute clarifying he "supports trans rights" before he says he doesn't personally think Sonic would be a tranny. You expect someone who constantly thinks about how he might be socially perceived to write a character that's legitimately bound by nothing, especially not the criticisms of society. And that's delusional. Ian Flynn is antithetical to Sonic as a character. He will never be a good Sonic writer.
>>527204298Sonic, Shadow, Blaze, and Silver.
>>527204174I did, and this explanation can fuck right off
>>527203602Silver is supposed to be a hotheaded yet innocent delinquent but the comics make him out to be an awkward nervous pussy. Any character traits he has in the games are the opposite in the comics.
>>527204458so why are you asking
>>527202769>Sony and them got into it over Persona going multiplatform in the first place, but even then Atlus blames Sony for limiting their salesJapan hates PS5
>Generic AMD APU box, no Kuturagi soul>Extremely Americanized and Woke>No games produced by Sony's own Japan Studio (RIP, btw)>PS5 finally is the scenario for Sony to re-release Demon's Souls, their neglected exclusive that started the whole soulsborne craze>It's western slop that took all the soul out of it>cancells PS3/PS2/PSX back compat on PS5 because ''lol who cares''>Put Playstation on a downward service game spiral they cant get out of easily because of sunk cost fallacy>FF7 Remake FF7 Rebirth FF16 ported to Windows to salvage the sales >Completely dead in Japan>3rd party developers abandoning them>1st party games all on Windows PC (MICROSOFT PLATFORM)
>>527201561Yakuza or persona, but nowadays I would say persona is the main sega cash cow. Sonic is in third place.
>>527204412>Ian: Honestly when I first started writing, Sonic was the hardest one to get behind because he was such a jerk. He was such an ego maniac. This is the jock, this is the guy who would make my time at school hard. I have to make this guy likeable. Ehhhh. What I eventually found with him was to break him away from how he had been written previously.Ian fundamentally misunderstood the character
It's literally spelled out for you in Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2
>What you see is what you get, a guy who loves adventure
>>527203924Hello!
Hope you're having a pawesome day.
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>>527204010>She couldn't just watch and record duo for a couple days?that WAS exactly the plan however silver is shit at hiding
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>>527204298There are a few characters with various "limit breaks". Shadow has his limiters canonically. Silver has his psycho-cuffs which have unused lore about powering him up. Blaze has mental limiters and unused lore where she throws off her cape when she gets serious. Sonic locks-in. Amy has her training weights.
>>527203425Ian thinks he knows everything because he thinks there's nothing to know
>>527204010Agreed
>Whisper has a recording mask and instead decides to just go full rambo mode looking like a complete lunatic>"b-but she deactivated it" since when was she so naive? Actual bullshit explanation>Tangle doesn't just know the Phantom Rider's identity she also knows Jewel was in mortal danger >Only spills the beans on the Phantom Rider when grumpy sheep is halfway through firing an attack and already psyched into beating the shit out of him>Lanolin doesn't do another background check on Duo after world's most suspicious event>Is somehow the only one to apologize for the cavalcade of fuck-ups>Tangle immediately tries hijacking Whisper's plot to kill Mimic and turn it into arresting him even though sparing him is exactly what led to thisI hate the Duo plotline so much, it's almost impressive how ass it is.
How do you get buillied by Sonic the Hedgehog?
>>527204964Why is Ian obsessed with referencing Sonic games that literally nobody cared and played
Do we really need a reference to Sonic Chaos on Game Gear? Really?
>>527204781Losers always have resentment from high-school.
>>527205036He shoves you in a locker
>>527204798every day is a good day with cute blobs
>>527205045Ian trying to do an expanded universe is his best trait. The problem is when he just does references for reference sake.
>>527204298Shadow. Perfectionist just like Byakuya
what if shadow's cum could cure maria's nids?
>>527204964There he just flat out admits he just puts game material to attract new readers and doesn't have any real interest in it.
Post that panel
With Classic Sonic wondering about Grinding
>>527202819He's not perfect but he's fine, I'm glad he made popular again the sonic lore. He exagererate on references, but he's by far the best western writer sonic games ever touched, it helped he actually had a career as an actual sonic writer since 2006.
People try to meme's about meta stories when flynn started the seinen era on sonic games, the knuckles frontiers prelude and shadow generations were written by him. Personally, I think he's by far doing it right. I hope he stays as a game writer for a long time.
You guys would have Shadow bang Sally and Maria and insult Ian
>>527203628*Dressrosa & Whole Cake
FTFY
>>527205045Because he wants to remind that he's a REAL Sonic fan even though his knowledge of Sonic is purely surface level and if he's asked anything in depth he'll either get it completely wrong or admit he doesn't know.
>>527205393What's the problem, officer?
>>527204918WTF? Archie sucked.
>>527205389Ian is literally the worst writer the games have ever had. He writes like he's copying and pasting from an AI.
>>527205389>he's fineYeah he's fine.
My real complaints about him are:
>Annoying references>Tries to be unambiguous with writing which often results in flat and expository character dialog>Cannot take criticism>Lore knowledge is barely above surface level>Smarmy>Millenial ("girl power" bullshit etc)>Obese>Progressive
>>527202819I just want him to understand Silver better. He butchered him harder than any other character and made the entire fandom think that he's supposed to be Tom Holland.
>Ian: My own track record of references aside
>Ian: Speaking as someone who likes to pull out their references, and has crossed the line and done it too much
>Kyle: You rely too much on references. Just kidding that's a high point.
>Ian: The references are...aggressive, to be sure, but I felt that in general they weren't excessively overt
>Ian: Yes but doing little references and nods is kind of a time honored tradition
>Ian: Proud [of song lyric references]? No no no no. This is indulgent.
Why can't he control it?
>>527205045>Sonic games that literally nobody cared and playedWhich real Sonic fan hasn't played Sonic Chaos yet?
Riddle me this, Batman. If Ian Flynn is a good writer, why does Drogune have virtually no audience?
>>527205272first time I saw someone posting shadria around here I thought those were male pedos who only want to seggs Maria. never thought it was female pedos who only want to seggs Shadow
>>527205793Drogune has ZERO marketing.
>>527205751He just needs to Live and Learn.
>>527205761>Espio's the biggest bum of all time
>>527205761Robin is just Wave
>>527205793Drogune my balls across your face.
>>527205751>excessively overt>indulgentIan needs big vocabulary for some reason
>>527205906Is it even still around anymore?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di-kVHMw_lQ
Whelp, so much for me thinking Cream was going to be easy to beat if shes on a board in this game. I'm frightened.
>>527205198I dunno could you imagine this dialogue coming from Shadow?
>"After everything we've been through together thus far neither of us has very much strength left">" Yeah" >"Let the next clash decide this battle">"The only thing I can do is channel all of my energy into one big strike! Are you ready, Shadow the hedgehog?!'
>>527205761Sonic characters look horrible when they are overdesigned like that. Less is better.
>>527205761Is it just me or 4chan now reduces the image quality of post now? It looks kinda horrid, but my pic has high quality.
>>527205906Neither do plenty of webcomics. Drogune looks like painfully mid DeviantArt slop and I know Ian has nothing interesting say.
>>527205027We're about to be out of new villians once he dies next chapter
>Clutch is just an egg boss now>Zeti fucked off to another planet, but will probably be back at some point>Rough and tumble have never been real threats>Surge is full blown anti hero now, working directly with the main cast
>>527205906Where's your comic?
Shadally and Shadria are two pairings I never thought I would end up seeing once a day.
>>527205761Thats just wave in the middle
OVA is the best adaptation
>>527206185Rough and Tumble are just one rape session away from becoming good guys. Someone needs to overcome their smell and fuck them.
>>527203736>Ian just thinks Silver's naivety makes him retarded and that's the reason he fell for Mephiles even though Blaze also fell for MephilesPeople only see Silver's decisions because he was the main character of his story. Both Blaze and Mephiles can whisper in his ears but in the end every major decision is his
>>527206253Sorry, Anon, but I'm not an artist like Flynn.
>>527205751>>527205740>>527205910>Sonic 3 & Knuckles' seamless visual storytelling, building a compelling narrative without relying on dialogue>Sonic Adventure exploring themes of friendship and responsibility>Sonic Adventure 2' two sides of the same coin storytelling with an explosive ending>Sonic Rush>Secret Rings>Sonic Unleashed>Black KnightArguably the most popular Sonic game stories, and completely self-contained and standalone, standing completely on their own without any self-referencing or throwbacks
Why can't Ian and Kyle do that?
>>527205761>chopper being a tanooki /racoon for the jokesKek perfect, I think the only one I don't like that much is Robin, because as some anon said, is just wave in robin clothes, even ussop looks different from espio.
>>527206158Is because they are one piece characters on sonic style not backwards.
my fan game will be centered around shipping
i will try to rival shadow's 326 endings
>>527206185Surge should have stayed an anti-villain. She was an anti-villain even during the Dynamo Cage and the Riders arc. Her character was "I'll get you and the doctors for ruining my life." and she had a massive chip on her shoulder. It worked great.
Really they shouldn't have killed Starline. And now they're going to repeat the same mistake and kill Mimic. Evan is so stupid.
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>>527206518Sonic 3, Sonic Adventure, and Sonic Adventure 2 are not "completely self-contained and standalone".
>>527206563My fangame will not be centered around shipping and will only focus on one of shadow's endings
>>527206185>We're about to be out of new villians once he dies next chapterStarline's coming back.
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>>527205891Shadow is a pliant lonely handsome hedgehog boy. I bet Gerald was a prude since he's an old religious man from the 1900s. I bet Gerald never put sexual knowledge into Shadow's head for that reason, so his project could remain mentally pure. I want to touch Shadow all over, making his body heated and he has no idea why. He's a "teen" physically, meaning his body is in stage where most normal boys are already jerking it daily, but Shadow has zero outlet or any idea how to release the hot pent up frustration he's feeling. Imagine being able to groom the strongest creature on the planet. Imagine him docile with you but aggressive with everyone else, and he only trusts you, and you tell him you're going to show him something good (it's sex). I'd reward him with lots of love and make sure he knows he's a good boy. I wish I could be in Maria's position.
>Captcha: GAY
>>527206185>Surge is full blown anti hero now, working directly with the main castI dropped off a while back, please tell me they didn't actually REDEEM her
>>527206383OVA > X > Boom > Fleetway > AoStH > SatAM > Archie > IDW > Paramount
>>527206740Interesting...
>>527206668Neither Ian and Evan and whoever else on IDW are good at making villains. All the villains you recognized and liked from Archie were created by other people years before they came on the book.
>>527206491Yeah but Ian doesn't even think that deeply about it, he just bought into the meme that Silver followed Mephiles without question when that isn't what happened in the story.
>>527205891I ship it because I genuinely liked the pairing, but not in a sexual way, is more like a old fashioned poetic romance kind of way. This place need actual romance and less sex pics.
Not the shadria poster though.
>>527206668>>527206928Post Ian and Evan's usual tropes and cliches
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OVA > X season 3 >= SatAM >= Archie > AoStH > Prime > rest of X > movies > IDW
Anything else is fake and gay
>>527206783The latest chapter has her and kit work together with amy, tails, and blaze to stop a town from sinking into the water. Kit secretly placed the bombs in the first place, so I guess he's still a "villain" but only to give surge something to do.
Is it just me, or does the guitar in It Doesn't Matter ver. 1 sound like a motorcycle engine revving up? You guys understand what I'm talking about?
Listen: https://youtu.be/pJs1iJOXFN8?t=18
You guys hear it?
>>527205891I like the pairing, but I don't really self insert as either of them. It has good and cute mutual respect and mutual appreciation dynamic on top of both feeling strongly drawn to each other in non-romantic ways. That's neat.
>"Get up...come on, get up! She's calling me...I hear her...I will....I WILL PROTECT HER!!"
after thinking on it a bit the closest sonic character to this would be
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>>527206518Why emulate when the pc port has the dreamcast restoration mods?
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>>527207158That's the sound of soul, bro
>>527206719Every Sonic game is standalone.
Except maybe Shadow Gens but even then the game lore dumps everything you need to know going in
>>527207000For Ian, game references, long-winded dialogue, torture and trauma porn
For Evan, characters crying and having emotional trauma, characters talking about their feelings, subtle and unsubtle self-insertion for female characters
>>527207158You won't riggy diggy doo me again.
>>527206507Flynn writes. He pays someone else to draw. Anyone can do that. Where's your comic?
>>527207391Why is he helping sonic on the left, that doesn't look like mr tinker
>>527207405Most Sonic game have some sense of continuity, often being direct sequels to the game that came before it. You can understand them without playing other games, but they are still explicitly connected.
>>527204918I can understand some character art looking rough here and there due to time crunch to get issues out on time but seriously how does shit like this happen? Espio doesn't even have a face here
>>527207382>Why emulate when the pc port has the dreamcast restoration mods?Original Dreamcast soul, and SA2 isn't fixed yet
To fix SA1 and SA2's PC ports, modders had to rewrite the rendering system
You can't really port them, since Dreamcast was a totally different platform. So you have to emulate it with modern techniques
You can't just pop Dreamcast assets into PC, you have to emulate Dreamcast hardware to an extent.
This was the same problem SEGA had when porting them from Dreamcast -> GameCube -> Windows (DirectX 8.1)
>>527206998>I ship it because I genuinely liked the pairing, but not in a sexual way, is more like a old fashioned poetic romance kind of wayThis is exactly how I feel about it shadriabro. Not the shadria poster either btw
>>527207585Yes they are connected but you could just play SA2 without playing any of the previous games no problem
Spongebob Squarepants is the best adaptation of Sonic the Hedgehog.
>>527207714Would Sonic stop a rapist if he exists in a dimension where rape is fine?
>>527207542I don't have a comic, Anon-chan. Please, forgive me!
What the FUCK is UP /sthg/!?
>>527207845Sonic plays by his own rules
>>527207845Scourge is more accurate to game Sonic than actual Archie Sonic. He's more windlike.
>>527207341Silver is the obvious first choice because he's usually the one who has to put himself in danger to protect everyone, but it's not a perfect fit. He exerts himself, but he doesn't take punishment while exerting himself and then collapses. This dialog is about someone who has to dig deep after taking punishment. I also can't imagine Silver thinking to himself about anyone this way, even Blaze. Like he's not devoted to Blaze specifically.
So I'd say Shadow and Maria is closest.
>>527207890ok, inspect element utilizer.
>>527207946Would game Sonic rape game Bunnie(Vanilla)?
>>527206998>>527207638The best part about Shadria is that it makes them feel fulfilled and happy__________________________________________________________
>>527207051Where is Boom?
Why do Americans hate Sonic's anime roots?
>>527208176If he felt like it.
>>527207946Scourge was too insecure to be like Game Sonic.
>>527207861It's a Nubby's Number Factory and NL thing.
I wouldn't worry about it
>>527206185There's that Jester coming up and Kit's still around, but he barely counts given his villainy is entirely focused on making Surge a hero.
>>527184278Shit ship. You have terrible taste in shipping.
>>527208334How much of the Sonic franchise does Legacy of Goku 2 mog?
A lot of Shadow's lyrics had to do with how conflicted he feels. Even in his theme, "Throw It All Away", it comments on how, even if he is immortal, it doesn't matter and he would rather throw it all away because the life itself is meaningless.
In Rhythm and Balance, the White Jungle stage where you have to save Rouge before the island explodes, the song asks over and over if Shadow is scared, once again that if he fails, he will lose yet another person close to him.
In the Supernatural, Final Chase's stage, the song starts asking if Shadow is even the Ultimate Lifeform to begin with as he gets closer to Maria's "dream."
The Biolizard of course, is unironically what I'd call Shadow's swan song. "Supporting Me" sounds just like the title, Shadow has finally given up revenge and learned that he wants to protect the world but he doesn't really know how to do this. He will do everything in his power, knowing that Maria is supporting him in order to fulfill her last wish, even if it means his untimely end, which the song references at the end of the song as well.
And of course, Live and Learn. Pretty explanatory, but it's learning to live with your mistakes and to keep moving in life even if all seems lost.
Shadow's story was unironically a great lead up from a broken individual lead on by hatred to one of redemption, giving his life to the ones he tried to destroy in the first place. We really won't have kino like this again, but at least its here
>>527208416Yeah all the Moebian counterparts were actually pathetic once you got past their tough exteriors.
>>527208334Anime only became acceptable amongst normies in the 2010s
>>527208481>Legacy of Goku 2Context?
>>527208481Funny story, Iizuka hates that comparison.
https://www.gamesradar.com/games/sonic-the-hedgehog/shadow-the-hedgehog-is-not-vegeta-in-any-way-and-is-not-friends-with-sonic-his-creator-says/
>It's a theory as old as time: Seven Chaos Emeralds, super form, spiky hair and Shonen tropes... We all experienced the argument at one point or another that the Sonic franchise is directly inspired by Akira Toriyama's cultural phenomenon: Dragon Ball.It's an argument that especially drives Sonic Team head and Shadow creator Takashi Iizuka absolutely nuts. The man has consistently denied claims time and time again that Sonic has anything to do with Goku, and his band of friends.
https://www.sonicstadium.org/news/games/takashi-iizuka-insists-that-shadow-is-not-like-dragon-balls-vegeta-and-never-will-be-r2542/
>SonicGoku
>VegetaShadow
>KnucklesPiccolo
>SilverFuture Trunks
>Super SonicSuper Saiyan
>Perfect ChaosPerfect Cell
The list goes on...
>>527207570That's Dr. Kintobor, the anti-Mobius' Robotnik. He's a good guy and an actual doctor.
>>527208776The Shadow/Vegeta comparison in particular has seriously damaged Shadow's public perception
>>527208724That's the game anon sent a webm of.
>>527208776>Iizuka doesn't even understand SonicLmao
>>527208929Shadow has been compared to Vegeta since his debut.
>>527208776DBZ autism ruined Sonic.
Sonic fans KNEEL for Toriyama
Yuji Naka was a huge DBZ fanboy, Pokemon was heavily inspired by Dragon Quest 5's monster catching, etc.
>>527208929>>527208985Any one got that Terios concept art that mentions Vegeta?
>>527208334Itโs actually the opposite. They despise his rubber hose classic cartoon aspects. Heโs as much shonen as he is slapstick but Amerilards canโt accept that.
>>527209048Good thing Sonic's creator was Naoto Oshima
>>527208929Official documents compare Shadow to Vegeta. They're not 1 to 1, but you shouldn't ignore the obvious like Iizuka is.
>>527208854WHOA, SHE'S FAST
>>527208334I played this game
>>527208985>Shadow has been compared to Vegeta since his debut.Sonic and Shadow do the Goku and Vegeta poses in SA2's 2P battle
>>527208985>>527209103>>527209126Holy shit I'm not denying Shadow was inspired by Vegeta I'm just saying they're significantly different from each other
>There still isn't a Broly equivalent in Sonic.
>>527209174Why did Gohan and Tails both let us down so much?
>>527209048I don't care about DBZ or anime in general. I'm just here for Sonic.
>>527209125Oshima created the design, but Sonic himself was Yuji Naka's idea. More of a joint creation.
>>527209280Only burgers deny this
>>527209125Yeah, he just gave us a hellokitty platforming kino. who knows what would have happened if it was Yuji Naka
>>527209494Mighty the Ni-
Flynn saved Sonic from the Japanese
>>527209375>Loving wife, a beautiful daughter, an esteemed job where he is respected by his peers and community >gohanfags view this as an objective failure because heโs not some brain damaged fightfag like his father*spits on you*
>>52720973225 years later Tails is adult Gohan
Honest thoughts on NAZO?
TN: Nazo means Mystery
>>527209732ummm sir. this is a SHOUNEN fight club for fight obsessed retards. the SoL section is right over there.
>>527208031Man, you just reminded me of how I awakened to my ryona fetish cuz of that fight, yes I know it typically involves a female but in that instant I knew, no, I understood that gender doesn't matter when it comes to fetishes only the moment. I never came s hard as I did that day, I miss it sometimes. the second closest was the day I discovered paizuri, sadly it's not sonic related so I won't dive into that adventure.
>>527209375dont know about gohan, but tails gets shafted and not in the fun way by shitty writers who cant see him as anything other than the little brother and cheerleader for sonic
>>527209732I'm happy he got that and I like him being a bug nerd, but he still should have beaten Buu.
>>527209936Wrong reply? Also ew.
CrossWorlds is not looking good.
>>52720985725 years later Tails got sloppy seconds and raising Sonic's daughter.
>>527210192It's getting massive praise from every jouno and player who tried it out, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>527210192That was this entire thread's discussion earlier. I agreed.
>Anime talking
Boring. I'm out of here.
>>527209375Gohan was supposed to carry the torch after cell saga, but goku can't stay dead so that story arc got dropped.
>>527209673Heโs so cuteโฆ
why can't you faggots stay on topic
>>527210465Dragon Ball is on topic. Dragon Ball inspired franchise. There's weirder things on topic now because of Crossworlds too.
>Crossover characters won't be voiced
Does that mean the eventual IDW characters will be mute too?
>>527210676NiGHTS and Dynamite Dux are more on topic than Dragon Ball.
>>527210465We are free, like the wind.
>>527210895>pecking order is real
>>527210540>simple main character that somehow got worse>overhyped oc that fell off hard after their debut>never gets to kill the villain rival that gets lots of screen timeYep. Definitely inspired by DB
>>527210895>>Crossover characters won't be voicedYes they will. Just not IDWshit.
>>527210975Spongebob is currently more on topic than Dynamite Dux.
>>527211193I hate how much dumber Goku got.
>>527210895Character interactions are limited to the core Sonic characters, but they should still have voices.
Do we know yet if this means that Prime characters are also considered "guest" characters?
Reminder Sonic 2, the Japanese Sonic Team flew over to America to work with the American team, hoping that the Americans would learn a thing or two on game development. But it didn't work out and there was a culture clash
Reminder that Yuji Naka said American devs weren't allowed to touch S3 and S&K
Reminder that Bernie Stolar gave them the NiGHTS engine to mess around with for a few weeks while they were making X-treme, but Yuji Naka threw a temper tantrum and threatened to quit Sega in response, so they had to let go of it
Reminder Bernie enforced the no-2D games policy on the Saturn and priced the Dreamcast $50 less than what Sega could afford.
Reminder Akitoshi Oikawa designed the Saturn and Dreamcast. Dreamcast was planned to have MP3 playback, gyro, motion sensor and vibration pack in 1998
Reminder that Sega threw away the Sonic Adventure 1/2 engine made in Sega Katana, an SDK for the Dreamcast and gave us Renderware garbage for Heroes and Shadow because Sony demanded that Sonic has to run on PS2's emotion engine
Reminder that SonicNextGen was built for the Xbox 360, rushed for holiday release, and then SEGA wanted to port it to PS3's CELL and Wii
Reminder that Sonic 4 and Episode 2 flopped so hard that everyone forgot about it
Reminder that Sega screwed themselves by making 3 mandatory sonic games on the Wii U with an engine incompatible with Wii U then botched the port
Reminder that Sonic Mania was made by British Sonic fans as a love letter to 90s Sonic that grabs the most fun parts of Sonic's gameplay into his level design, most of the frustrating moments of the original classic games can't be found here, and Sega of Japan hated it and gave us SuperStars
Reminder Sonic Colors Ultimate was outsourced garbage
Reminder that Iizuka is burned out and doesn't know what to do besides please the fans, who will never be happy anyway
Reminder Ian Flynn only knows how to write overly self-referential stuff
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Keeping Tails warm in a cold day
>>527211263Funny how Mina was the archie equivalent of lanolin, in terms of appearance.
She was just a background character, people liked for design alone, started with realty small cameos until she became a full main character.
She's probably one of the few preboot characters I miss. Along lien-da, snively and li-moon.
>Sony FORCES Sega to release Heroes for PS2, or FOREVER be blacklisted by Sony
>It releases
>Runs at 20fps
Shadow was created in the name of love
What a fag.
>>527211854That Sonic is so crusty.
>>527205761That's a really attractive nami and robin, even if robin looks a lot like wave.
I wish the artist made a boa hancock equivalent.
Getting ready for christmas with Tails
>>527211854>FOREVER be blacklisted by SonyWould Sony really do that?
>>527209303This but with Silver and Trunks
>>527211951How is Shadow's shadow red?
>>527212072Releasing it everywhere but the PS2 would definitely create friction
>>527211951Well, one of gerald's main goals was ti save the most beloved child in the robotnik family.
Shadow creation as an actual act of love from a grandfather, for her granddaughter.
>>527210895Whisper and Tangle will make out on screen
>>527211960Crustless whisbread
Donating my right lung to Tails
>Just sticking with the origins of the Dreamcast, were there really two different concepts for the Dreamcast in development? There are plenty of forum posts and articles online that state that there were competing projects - one from SEGA of America called Black Belt which was 3Dfx based, and another from SEGA of Japan called Dural which was NEC PowerVR based. Can you comment on these projects and how it was decided that the Dural concept was the one that won? If so, how different do you think the 3Dfx system would have been?
I believe SEGA of America wanted the 3Dfx version and SEGA of Japan wanted the NEC PowerVR. Both made sense for different reasons. With 3Dfx, there were more resources and documentation available for development in the US and Europe. That and it was understood that development would be easier, especially for PC ports. The NEC PowerVR made NAOMI ports simple and was easy to program, however, it was not as well supported (yet) in the US. I doubt Model 3 games would have worked too well on either. Although there was a PowerVR chip shortage when the Dreamcast launched in Japan, both chips had their pluses and minuses. In the end, I'm not sure it would have made too much of a difference.
>Katana became Dreamcast
>BlackBelt eventually became XBox
>>527212483Donating my left lung to tails (I'm a heavy smoker and I wish to contribute to his downfall)
>>527212072>>527212276I love the ps2 and I understand its popularity l, but let's be honest, the console was famous for having the worst ports in gaming history, a fact they still fought in the ps3 era.
Funny enough, the best post on that era were created in the GameCube, resident evil comes as an example, but I remembered that game was actually created on the GameCube, because it was supposed to be an exclusive at the time.
>>527211960She ate so much food she turned into food herself
>>527201935>>527211960now draw her buying whisper bread
Buying glasses for Tails
>>527212573I thought Blackbelt was canned because it would be too expensive to manufacture and Sega was running low on money
>>527210353>trusting journalists
>>527184272Sonicbabs lost eternally decades ago, this isn't new.
>>527214896Youโre not slick, fag.
>>527220154>Slickwhere's that new console sonicbab
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