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>>527458106 >NewsAgent Record | Alice Thymefield
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/39231485
Agent Record | Ukinami Yuzuha
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/39218785
Season 2 Special TVCM
https://youtu.be/bLEL0nU0LxI
Version 2.0 "Where Clouds Embrace the Dawn" Special Program
https://youtu.be/ACjLWP_zviU
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>Upcoming Events for 2.0https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/156753
Festival Channel 06/06 - 07/16
Failume Gift 06/06 - 07/15
Soul of Steel: Golden Bond 06/06 - 07/07
Golden Proxy Awards Annual Ceremony 06/06 - 06/23
Gravitational Attraction 06/08 - 07/14
Holographic Onslaught Arena 06/13 - 06/30
Special Cleanup - Triple Bounty 06/18 - 06/23
Tiger's Billowing Roar 06/25 - 07/14
En-Normous Surprise 06/25 - 07/15
Operation Yum 06/28 - 07/14
Combat Training - Triple Bounty 07/04 - 07/09
>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZZZ2NDSEASON
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https://rentry.org/ZZZ-drawpile
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>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
pegging session with astra
stories already peaked early
>>527499910>stories already peaked earlyyeah, but during belobog/chapter 2. everything after that was slop
>>527499975Highly fertile
>>527499948Actually it peaked during the cunning Hare chapter.
>>527500148>another NPClame
padme
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>>527500148>thotwas that intentional, where was this from btw?
>>527499680 (OP)fucking homo game
So erm
What was the point in making the stars of lyra faction
>>527500328why can't we get sexy girls like these..
>>527500359For the future kpop faction
>>527500359Since there will be more members to that faction, for example Padme
>>527500286 and Monika
Their story deals with TOPs intrigue, as well STARS secret organization, so they are quite relevant.
>>527500286> since version ~2.6, idols appear and take us to the cyberpunk city. Where Padme meets meMy dream...
>>527499948Nah
Tour de Inferno was pretty cool
Especially that ending with the Proxy Siblings visiting Old Eridu
>>527500286why is she blue
feels like yuzuha is releasing soon but she's still over a month away
>>527500286I would love to have Padme. A more artsy looking girl would be a nice change to the usual sexy woman.
>>527500891Why are you not?
>>527500891she can be whatever color, pic related movie she plays in
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MY DEAR PADME
>>527501236banging . . . BOOS!
>inserting the sword into her sheath
lewd
>>527500286Yeah I'm skipping Ju Pedofu, Yupedoha and Alpedolice
I only play this game because a cute girl at work does
But now she won't talk to me because I said I was buying the Yuzuha summer skin
>>527500742This, even if Caesar's attempted sacrifice was a little forced, it was still dramatic in an enjoyable way.
https://litter.catbox.moe/9kbrabp72msou4sf.jpg
mamma mia
>>527501116Orange Padme is cute.
She's gonna be another stunner isn't she
>>527500148cuuuuuuuuuuute
>>527501883she'll be another ice attacker
>>527500286this is like first skinny ZZZ female character. I am sure they`ll both her design and have here have fat ass and tits when she`s released
>>527501883do we have a unit with command grabs yet?
>>527501883She`ll be Rapture Berserk new class, using HP to cast abilities and gettind damage buff the lower the HP is.
>>527500332Good morning HRT ritual poster!!! Why do you say Ugly as Uglee with a double e's? Use proper english!!!
so, how's 2.0?
has the game become sovlful again? or is it standard hoyo slop now?
>>527502408Very good, actually
>>527502408Its fun, but 1.0 will never come back. We had our golden age too early.
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Alice/Yuzuha swimsuits are almost worth leaving the F2P life but not sexy enough, Alice is wearing shorts, Yuzuha's one piece isn't V-shaped enough. I'll just wait for mods.
>>527502408I like it but I haven't played other Hoyo games so i can't really compare them. I must say it's been interesting watching the game change over the year.
I was getting sick of open world gacha games and then comes ZZZ with open zone exploration
>>527502408Theres now 5 minutes, 20 seconds worth of content to do daily instead of just straight 5 minutes
>>527502629these are literally NOT swimsuits
fucking hoyo man
>>527501883Physical rupture
>>527502905they're not gonna swim, they're gonna fight on open water floating in air
feel like this game is just honkai impact 3rd now
newer characters barely interact with the enemies, and if you do, you just get punished for it because parry or dodging reward doesn't make up for the time loss, it's better spent on doing damage
everyone i-framing through everything without learning any enemy pattern, and enemies, instead of rewarding players for interacting with them, punish players if they dare interacting with them, like how butcher spin take away 10 or more seconds if you decided to parry it, dodging it is better but it's still a huge dps loss
soon everyone will simply take a game where the characters do their own thing while the enemy does its own thing, like watching number go up instead of playing the game
>>527500359Astra continuation quest, she will buy herself out soon from TOPS grubby hands then establish her own record label, storyletbro.
>>527503008>numbers go updisable numbers now
>>527502629>the slight hint of butt cheekfuarkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk this brat KNOWS what shes doing!
>>527503008Survey that shit. But honestly, I don't see your point. Is it about the off field aftershocks characters? Because this patch had Yixuan who have a rewarding parry.
>>527503008True, they should increase the time window for dodges and parry if they want me to stick around and pay.
>>527502875yeah I'm not liking it either
why can't all the content just be like deadly assault and shiyu defense?
>>527503008Every character should have autoparry in their basic 3 string combo and combos should not be larger than 4 hits at most
You should have no interchangeable EX button interactions and cahracters should float while they do their highest damage numbers so you do not get interrumped
>>527503008is that a troll post?
Yi Xuan is litterally about NEED to parry, as well one of most complex kits. Miasma mechanic litterally motivates you to dodge counter attacks since its what breaks it etc.
>>527503008That's every gacha ever. Be happy we at least have chars like the new one, where parrying is actively rewarding you.
A certain other game that shall not be named will fuck you hard if you actually have to dodge during your damage window as that's short as fuck. Outside of it it's generally good, but god beware the enemy fights back during it. The funniest thing is how they had to nerf an enemy's attack frequency once because the newest gacha character couldn't fight it like that. And she was supposed to be shilled in that fight...
"On November 21st, XXXX, Wise collapsed due to long-standing high blood pressure. He was 2X years old at the time, and it had been just one month since the New eridu mayor passed the authoritarian constitution to extend his regime once again. Amid a large crowd gathered for his funeral procession, a group of agents followed behind. Wise had devoted his entire lifeโfrom the Lost void era, through the post-liberation conflicts between left and right, the corrupt politics of TOPS, and up to the regime of the New eridu mayorโfighting injustice with all his might. And his younger sister, Belle, was crying."
Is it dumb to roll for astra at this point?
Do you remember this Mibibi? I do. And I miss it. Her old design fit more with her now known autistic dork demeanor, while the new design makes her look like an evil woman, a villain.
>>527503643No, she's the only agent that is worth rolling for on a re-run banner.
>>527500328Tried giving wuwa a shot, even posted in your thread... just dont like the feel of combat (initially at least). Compared to genshin's overworld traversal though, it is night and day. Not that i'd go back to genshin its been years, but if I had to choose an open world gacha to play, then wuwa is probably the best out there. I only gave it 90 minutes though, I'll def try it again some other time. Funny asf how the first 2 girls you meet already wanna suck my cock barely 20 mins into the game lmao, not complaining.
>>527503643She is the second best character in the entire game and is completely independent of faction.
Even if Yuzuha is better, Astra still makes most content trivial and works with everyone.
TLDR: It's not dumb.
>>527503689All they needed to do was keep the sharp eyes she had here and simply bring them closer together. Why tf did they soften up her look?
>>527503318I can't tell if this is bait or not
>>527503689I do like autistic wideyabi.
>>527502629Kek wtf, these are horrible swimsuits. How did WuWa manage to have sexier swimwear?!
>>527503905get better taste, open world slopper
>>527503643she's works on every team safe investment
Yixuan/Trigger/Jufufu is the most fun team to play rn.
>>527503689Her sheathing animations are cool but it bothers me that the sword clips through the scabbard in a very noticable way
>>527503318Based
>>527503905Unironically retarded
>>527503758>wuwa open worldit has none. Traversal kills it and there is zero to explores since all the world is empty. You just fly from point A to point B. Genshin main strength is exploration, Wuwa doesnt really have it, hence even if new region drops its like 4 hours of content.
>Miyabi is a fox thiren without tail
>Her weapons spirit is called tailless
Umโฆ BROS? Coincidence?
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Analwormers unironically believe the barafaggot will be S rank?
>>527504013>not having Pandayou fucked up
>>527504105>Unironically thinking Shinyu/DA is good contentNow this is actually retarded
Is it even worth building Panda if my current team works fine? He's M2 but I still feel like we're going to get a better Rupture support in the future anyway.
>cultist can pull out shit like jiyangs body through memories
>tfw they pull this shit to the old void hunters
>They get revived as ether raias bosses
>tfw we are just datas all along hence you turn into rainbow pixels when liquidated
>We live in the matrix
>>527504167Eh I really wouldn't know bro.. I stopped playing Genshin just before Sumeru dropped and as for Wuwa I'm only basing my impressions of of the 90 or so minutes I sownd and during that time the soriniting up the walls felt a million times better than genshin's climbing.
Holy fuck when are they going to fix the constant new notifications bug? It's so annoying
>>527504261You lost, youโre alone in this.
>>527504349Holy fuck I hate phoneposting, I fatfingered that to hell...
>>527504238Why not
Let the girls have something to roll on
>>527504419Say whatever helps you cope I guess
>>527504314>in the Matrixback in the real world, outside the simulated replay of the past, it is already many years in thenfuture and Wise is already JOYOUS
>>527504425Where are the feetโฆ.
>>527504309Yeah maybe in 2.2 but I doubt since the remaining reruns are attackers mainly anby eve and harumsa.
>>527504425they sexualized her....
>>527504563whatโre the perks of the trannyboo
>>527504617It feels kind of wrong desu, Belle is too cute to be for sexual
>>527504314>>527504521no, its just a nature of ether - it absorbs concious. For whatever reason, ether is more like life form/nanomachines, than energy, and its attracted to information/concious, absorbs and replicates it.
Thats also a reason why like of Yi Xuan can manipulate it by thought or the swords with concicous of previous owners exists, people have fake memories when corrupted etc.
Ether is more like neural network scanning all internet for all information.
>>527504167>>527504349and I was strictly speaking traversal, not exploration. I didnt even explore shit in Wuwa really, I played for 90 minutes and uninstalled (for now).
>>527504617>>527504715You deserve to be ntr'ed.
>>527504161Orphie (formerly Orpheus) and her retarded appearance (formerly cool appearance) has grown on me slightly
>>527504521>haircutis it intentional
>>527504425if i was a girl i would wear stuff like this and walk through the roughest neighbourhood
>>527504715this is exactly how ryza saved a company
>>527504740>Ether (the 4th Impact Honkai) is a chaotic sentient AI from another dimensionheavy
>>527504563cute!!!! i am getting her
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Phateon, get down.
>>527504161zzz if they wanted to make money
>>527505051>*steals all Phaethonโs bitches*
>>527504740>>527505048Why does she flop around like a derpy retard though
>>527504740Imagine if Ether was basically AC6's corals.
>>527504161zzz if they wanted to be soulless
>>527505074didnt works well for Snowbreak or GFL2
is Yanagi boring to play without M2?
her M2 looks like one of the most predatory ones when it comes to fun
>>527505191Can't help it, snowbreak gameplay is shit.
>>527505216I just use Yanagi as a disorder bot for Miyabi...
>>527504740Ether being Neural network explains mutations and etherials - it just learning and still cant draw correct number of limbs/fingers on characters, but its improving.
>>527505326My Miyabi is M6 though, she plays alone...
>>527505350>tv mode sucked dick and ballsi wish. it didnโt sexually gratify me at allโฆโฆ
>>527505350top played all his exploration commissions.
bottom only played the story mode so far.
>>527505048does she get blown away by her own explosions?
Does anyone know if these stack? If I add more Sharkboo on a Former Community expedition, the game doesn't show the material yield increase any further. But the UI is shit, so I can't be sure if it actually stacks.
cant believe i actually have the anby wife one
"only have eyes for anby", kinda real
>>527505350both are correct
TV mode in initial form sucked. While i liked many parts of it, it was mistake to make it part of MAIN gameplay. I just recently finished Arpeggio, and while fun, after few levels it turned just to chore.
But it wasnt reason to remove TVs completely, there were ways to improve it, and without them game suffered a lot in amount of content so there was basically nothing to do.
>>527505640Oh, wait, never mind. It shows each bangboo's individual yield. And on the OTHER screen it shows the total.
>>527505216Wish we had more mindscapes like yanagi's m1, the safety net is really a good deal rather than figuring stuff out then get hit anyway and reset.
>>527505651highly unlikely. putting out a dedicated support for Anomaly indicates it would be wise to continue investing in it despite the new shiny Rupture. Alice will just be the first in a new wave of Anomalies.
>>527505976Triggers pov before she gets crept
Is there a way to figure out if fufu has momentum or not?
Where's the Wise x Nicole amv that Anonymous promised
>>527506045ju fufu is not powercreeping anyone besides wormter lol
>>527505672ow do you get that one?
>>527506132how does hu wei work, is it sentient
>>527506314its litteraslly just a popcorn Machine, Yi Xuan uses it to cook in the EP. Fufu ult is throwing hot popcorn on enemies. The engine likely moves by popcorn popping inside.
>>527506252bliss on both the front and the rear
what a woman
>>527505191Worked just fine with w*w*
>>527506363why does it seemingly react when fufu scratches it
>>527506073You need mental gymnastics, parry gives 1, ex gives 3, ult gives 6 then you can stack up to 15.
>>527506412doesnt seem so
Who is the best 3rd slot for them?
Is Miyabi even worth it on her rerun?
I feel like we're all being memed that she's broken
>>527506252imagine the sloshing sound...
>>527506363her butt in the default outfit affects me in a way the other outfit canโt. something about a fat jiggly ass all neatly packed into those shorts. unf
>>527506494how much is yixuan's banner now?
>wuwa autist is asleep
>thread is dead
YI XUAN, GIVE ME YOUR SWORD
>>527506252>dresses like a slut>is a monkMost scam design ever.
>>527506514>I feel like we're all being memed that she's brokenare you retarded?
>>527506643outside of mono ice teams how good is she really?
>>527506514Yes definitely, miyabi checks all the ice weak bosses and you don't want to use hugo or ellen against bringer unless we are bound to another ice anomaly dps.
>>527506514Yi Xuan already better would widen the gap after Jufufu
>>527506598https://game-i.daa.jp/?ใฌใใฃๅๆ%2Fใผใณใฌในใพใผใณใผใญ
https://game-i.daa.jp/?ใฌใใฃๅๆ%2F้ณดๆฝฎ
would getting Astra benefit my squads here?
I was thinking of getting e2 Yi Xuan (currently s1 e0)
>>527506690yeah either retarded or shitposting. kys.
>>527506826why would you get dupes of the weapon instead of getting dupes of the character?
is there something I don't get?
>>527506514Miyabi is still the best dps in the game and Yi xuan does not even come close to her
In fact I don't think Yi xuan is among the 3 best dps in teh game as of now. Maybe with jufufu she will get better
KEK not even the devs want you playing with Flopter, kinda funny
>>527506865I just don't think any dps is worth it on rerun in hoyo games and Miyabi being an exception seems odd
>>527506826Of course, it lets you focus on two characters instead of 3
>>527506916>Yixuan is not goodLmao this nigga, there are clears of lvl50 A rank Anby, Nicole and Yixuan with copeball clearing the DA priest.
>>527506510Miyabi might work since Alice can feed her disorders like Yanagi does. But Yuzuha is, on the surface level, weaker for miyabi than astra. This isn't taking into account how Yuzuha can technically help team team generate more disorders to increase miyabi's uptime. The only issue with that is that Miyabi and Alice both seem to want the field time. A safer bet for a 3rd slot would be one of the 2 off field anomalies (Vivian or Burnice).
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Idol status?
>>527506904I meant c2, mixup
>>527506960No xis, next attackers are not releasing on the power level of Yixuan or Miyabi, you can hope for Alice to be near the level of Evelyn if we are being optimistic.
>>527506950Of course, the mobs will die too fast and you are unable to do 3 chains
>>527507084Doesn't alice only need to be compared to the current top phys DPS? As long as she's better than Jane it's fine I think.
>>527506627I can't get over how this meme edgelord design is just the Havoc form from W*wa lmfao.
>>527507159That's my point.
>>527507159She will be better simply because the new boss will shill disorder instead of normal anomaly proc.
>>527506998I never said she is not good
I have her with her ball and my current score on miasma priest is 45k
But I can get that score with Evelyn in the same boss and the boss not only is not weak to fire but she also does not have a gigashill buff like yi xuang has
Yo xuang is strong but lacks partners and she will probably skyrocket once an s rank suport for the new class drops
But as of now she is jack of all trades master of noone and just another character that struggles a lot to deal with bringer unlike characters like eve Hugo or yanagi who just rape that boss to death
IMAGINE rolling for FLOPTER LAWRENCE when the unit right on the next banner was direct powercreep.....
>>527506494It's higher than their release number though.
>>527507206Oh, I didn't make the Evelyn-Jane connection. Is evelyn the top fire dps? Yeah wait you're right whoops. Is the equivalent for electric still yanagi? or did sanby creep her?
>>527506585Her butt hanging out a bit does wonders, idk if the other outfit also does that or not
https://x.com/ZZZ_EN/status/1835166712452317299
what would be the human equivalent of this
>>527505732The worst thing the missing TV mode caused is absolutely horrendous events where the gameplay consists out of running back and forth between npcs and the gameplay consisting out of mashing the X button and/or repeating inputs the game shows on screen. Aka the chinese NY event or the current cinema one. Absolutely low as fuck quality.
TV events weren't the greatest, but they were infinitely better than this shit.
>>527506998>Look at how much I beat the game with >DPS-NicoleTrue.
>>527507287KEK, it's like those who rolled for Zhu, at least the Shork got a buff I guess.
>>527507327With all the balls package Yanagi and SAnby are close but with cope builds and non-optimal teammates Yanagi is better. It doesn't help that Yanagi can use Trigger while SAnby does not use Rina that well.
This the place that pays more for less? Why?
>>527507049confirmed by devs to be in 2.x so probably around 2.4 or so
>>527507283t. retard
>>527507476Ah okay you are just a shitposter then
>>527507287Lighter sure makes you seethe hard. Sounds like you got bullied by the cool guy in highschool and never let it go.
>>527507464Fucking kek, literally outed as a tranny shitposter, Nicole is probably Yixuan's worst support next to Rina because she doesn't use all the def shred and A rank Anby is a the brick of bricks. Proceed to rope
>>527507432wtf are you smoking, the Cinema event is litterally the best event in all gachas, ever. Any other game WISHES they had one like that.
>>527507473>at least the Shork got a buff I guess.I almost wished she hadn't. Now I need to choose between underpowered, or dogshit moveset that takes the controls out of your hand every five seconds.
They really must have fired or lost the people that made the initial moveset animations because this shit ain't it.
>>527507287Wormter owners in shambles
>>527507474fuck off back to your ai generated UEshit wuwajeet
>>527507583No men that looked like Lighter would bat an eye to somebody like the tranny that shills him here thougheverbeit.
>>527507593Not him but Nicole gives a % dmg increase to the team along an ether bonus dmg
Even if you ignore the def reduction she gives more damage than astra to yi xuan as of now
>Wise is mine, so donโt touch him, you nasty cowardly rabbit!
What about Burnice, guys? Is Yuzuha powercreeping her?
>>527506950>>527507287KEK, worst part is that Flopter got 'crept by a loli of all things.
>>527507767all characters before 2.0 are getting crept
>>527507768At least I luckshat him in a 10 pull, I cannot imagine the feeling of those who went +240 pulls for a brick........
>>527507697>Also obsessed with tranniesSo you're mentally ill, got it
>>527507767Burnice competes with Vivian, Alice looks to be directly creeping the rat.
>>527507432The truth is that the average hoyo audience are just infinitely more tolerant of absolute dogshit as long as pretty graphics are showing.
Heck, even stuff that's a little interesting like the mecha event is like
>Wait, this is just Honkai Impact's US mechs.>they did 6 years ago.
>>527507852>0 arguments provided about why Flopter is not getting crept, pure ad hominemI accept your concession.
And now the anti lighter schizo is replying to himself. Sad.
I REGRET pulling Raito.........
>get yi xuan
>win
>get mibibi
>win
So where does the combat go from here?
>It's just a single guy that's aware that another Flop of Calydon is getting crept
meds
So guys, question about the proxies powers.
Where do we think the devs are going to take their powers/abilities? And how powerful do you guys think the proxies will become?
So far it appears that the game has (you) become the designated puzzle-solving system that lets your investigation team progress through the hollows. This is something I actualy quite liked because it ties into their roles as guides pretty nicely rather than becoming on-field agents/fighters. It gives them more presence again in a tangible way I think, which is pretty cool.
However, Jufufu and Yi Xuan make it a point multiple times that the proxies have immense talent. Even Tiger gets freaked out over how quickly the proxy picks up the ether manipulation abilities.
The ability that stood out to me the most straight away though (besides being able to reverse corruption in certain situations) was where you can make objects appear and disappear.
Of course, gameplay wise its limited to shipping containers and bridges and stuff. But what's stopping the proxies from training this further and turning the hollows into their own matrix-like world where they can control what's inside. Or am I severely misremembering how that power works lol. Thoughts though?
>>527508000i unironically wish i pulled for ratio he's one of my favourite characters but decided to save for hyacine instead
>>527508025Get Ye Shuangang or you'll be behind.
>>527507974Imagine seething for months just because a character you don't like is bis for Evelyn instead of simply choosing to ignore it and have fun with koleda or Nicole in the third slot.
I don't like Vivian and I have to deal with my anomaly teams being worse for not rolling her and I don't give a dam about it lol
>>527508000Why? He`s great for both Fire and Ice teams i.e. Ellen, Hugo. For Hugo he`s pretty much must and hugo is highest damage ingame atm.
>>527507974Pay no worry the thoughbeit spammer guy is brown and vietnamese
>>527508145please step on me
u/Lighter'sWifeMtF is seething in the thread.......
>>527507767Burnice is aftershock prototype so she's out.
Don't worry, you can still play dolls with the triple fujo team that underperforms below Miyabi, have fun with the best team at being 2nd.
>>527508087they wont get powers anywhere soon. They`ll find a time rift in Lemnis hollow and Wise will be transported back in time to become/or relive memories of Joyous.
>>527508145He became Qingyi/Zhudas with Hugo, basically not META anymore but capable of clearing scuffedly.
>new quest is about a worker's union that is going up against a big corp. But it turns out the leader of the union is evil, abuses the workers, the corp is good, and we have to save the workers and expose the union.
now that's chinese
>>527508025win using corin
>>527508202you can notice he didn't even samefag properly, Jufufu did a number.
>>527508263>>527508315i find the META argument retarded, since you need more than one team. In this DA you need 2 ice teams even.
Plus, Hugo is just one of most satisfying teams to play. Nothing compares with TOTALIZE one shotting.
>>527508131>5 Star M*le BIS>that's somehow goodkill yourself
so glad the pro wormter idiot is now getting what he deserves
>>527507593>Instant Meltdown Big suggestion here, maybe make it less obvious you're not trying to downplay.
Yea "worst" as in one of her lower viable units.
Also
>associate immediately with the big meanie stereotype you hate the moment you disagreeYou and trannies are only different in that you haven't cut your dick off.
>>527508315Keep my wife's name out of your fucking mouth
>>527508354>leader of the union is evilWho are you referring to. I remember the leader of the union being on proxy's side.
>>527507974You have aids
Wormter flopped btw
>>527508416You don't need 2 Ice weak teams xis, all current bosses weak to ice have another weakness. Miyabi si the better choice even after a rerun.
>>527508442KEK
>>527508460My bad I guess
>>527508354Thats reference to SAG AFTRA voice actors strike, where Mihoyo just replaced them all. Good riddance. Best thing we got of it is ENG paimon fired.
Nigga how can you get angry at pixels in the screen
Is just one character
>like flopter
>don't like bibian
You're trans
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Hello mibibi
Hello micunni
Hello my fexsox girl
im at the point of my life where i have no energy for games. I played the prologue for ZZZ it was fun. But all i do is just follow the community. It is very funny. plus just jerking off to the characters
>>527508558Stating that he stopped being meta is not hating him thougheverbeit. The shills on the other hand.....
>>527508503>wormter flopped btwCouldn't have said it better
>>527508087The Proxies' powers will only go as far as having more gimmicky puzzle-solving techniques added.
I think it's clear they're not the fighting type and they will never be.
>>527507974>>527508181>>527508131Guys guys, you're all potentially third worlders.
Especially the guy who had to specify Vietnamese like anyone knows them outside the war and noodles.
Great now you set off the multidevice schizo.
>>527508248Burnice will go through an Ellenjoezation and will become an Aftershock goddess
You did kill Marrionette with M0 Mib, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVDFKYgyMno
>>527508739isn't that the wormed guy the slopped and flopped?
You know what's worst? You needed to max EX, Basic, Ultimate and Core in that faggot, that's hours and hours of battery BRICKED next banner. Grim
>anti lighter schizo is the wuwashill
HOLY KEK
>>527508857But that's horsetranny trying to falseflag isn't it?
>>527508857>screaming boogeyman will unbrick my husbando KEK
>>527508840You actually don't. Your bad in not pulling Trigger.
>>527508801Yup
Is that a feat?
>>527508901If it wasn't obvious, yes, you can see his posting pattern lines with the "muh wuwa raid" , right now I got xher trying to defend a wormed unit and all the wuwa puppeteering stopped.
I haven't played the robot event yet, is it kino?
>>527509031Pic is funnier when you realize he Is telling that to burnice who probably understands closed to nothing
>>527509028wait you are right, the wuwa "shilling" out of nowhere starts and stops right at xher posting hours, kek.
>>527508857No one even mentioned Wuwa in this thread, are you stalking someone on social media again?
>>527508637play Blue Archive if you just want to relax
Uh oh djic bai viet melty
>>527507767No, but Alice definitely will.
Burnice can now join QY and Ceasar in the "need of a buff" club.
>>527509105okayyyyy, i'll play it after yi xuan's banner ends because I'm getting way too comfortable with throwing pulls on the banners even though I need to secure jufufu.
>>527509071Yes.
An easy top 10 event so far.
It's probably being obfuscated by the cinema event which is the best event ever
you have two more patches to make playable proxy panama hat guy
or it's uninstall
>>527509110>>527509143Yeah it's horsetranny, fucking figures
>>527509205It's comfy but has some slight difficulty at the end (you can't get hit much), it was good to me
>It's Wuwa
>No no no it's this twitter user
KEK
do you guys bother to farm those daily pickup items on the new maps?
>>527508354It's actually a pretty common trope. Chinese people generally don't like poor people/peasants in fiction. They're poor because they're too stupid/uninformed and are easily manipulated.
>>527505074I'd literally not spend money if they did that.
>>527508689I regret skipping Bibian for Yixuan. Fuck.
>Hidden ears
>Glasses
>Brother of the final girl in the 2.0 trailer
He is going to be a traitor that takes of his glasses and reveals his new design by the end of 2.x isn't he?
>>527509278>It's horsey>It's the country next to me>It's a wuwaraid>It's [some account I'm stalking]>It's tranniesDo you even have a life beyond this game?
>>527506627it's gonna happen isn't it....
>>527509434>Stretched glove from biting fingerHoly soul
>>527509441Yeh Vivian is way better than Yi xuan
But as some anons say YX can get better with future units so you may be rewarded for it in the end
Is it ever explained where Vivian's ass rockets come from or why her dress doesn't get set on fire by said rockets?
>>527509459no, he`s no Otto expy
>>527509434Why people make these? It's so cringe.
>>527509346I dunno some 23k or something
Mibibi c0w1, Yanagi c0w0, Rina c1w1
>>527509341It's honestly none too popular in western fiction as well. Any depiction of poor people is contrasted by the rich, usually leading to the poor becoming the rich, asserting the concept that that scrappy noble homeless person deserved to be rich the whole time.
Romance fiction rather universally depicts the wealthy. What this says about the primarily female audience of harlequin romance novels is an exercise for the viewer.
>only my made up boogeyman hate the record flop and the most disliked character in the game!!!
Lmao
Kys homo
>>527509560>Just pull future units to make her futureproof bro!Jesus fucking christ the state of chinkslop
>>527509576No.
We only know she loves the Proxy due to a reason they don't dare to directly explain since they know if would be bullshit.
Ah and she had a tragic past or something.
>>527508538If this story is an attack on SAG, then Hoyoverse and ZZZ writers are petty as fuck. There is nothing wrong with SAG striking to protect their workers from AI. Hoyoverse could have immediately ended the situation by offering AI protections and it probably wouldn't have hurt their profits, unless they actually have plans to replace live actors with AI in the future.
>>527509560i am not sure anymore if its troll or genuinely retarded.
Vivian and Yi Xuan are in completely different categories. Vivian is secondary DPS - and yes, she great and unbricks anomaly. But she doesnt compare in relevancy or damage to Yi Xuan, who`s main DPS. And yes, while Yi Xuan will get even more op with Fufu, she already is.
I will NOT roll for Ju Fufu
Have a good post for a change.
>>527509801Me neither
I like her, but I like the Spook Shack ladies more...
>>527509786plaese kill yourself, or , inform yourself better about circumstance, and then kill yourself
>>527509792Because Yi xuan does not allow other charactes to shine, shei s a singel woman team that asks you to use your stunners and suports on her
Vivian allows a lot of untis like Rat to o a shit ton more damage and rapes every ether weak content while doing so
In terms of Value Vivian is way stronger than YX
Mind you I don't think YX is bad, I simply think Vivi is op as fuck
>anti lighter schizo continues to seethe randomly
meds. take them.
>>527509363it's ok as shown per hugo's banner homobuxx don't provide much to this game's sales
>>527509786>Hoyoverse could have immediately ended the situation by offering AI protectionsI suggest you actually fucking read the news surrounding this issue before speaking on it. That is not the case and has never been the case.
The short version is that Hoyoverse hired Union actors with off-union contracts. This was standard at the time as the union requires all the workers on projects containing their union workers to be signed to union. This changed when the SAG strike started, as that rule, Global Rule 1, started getting enforced.
SAG has been caught spreading disinformation on the topic and it has been proven that the true goal was to flip Hoyoverse to be a union-only employer, which would force them to fire all their non-union voice workers.
But the worst part of it is that Hoyoverse was never officially put on strike by SAG, SAG instead prodded it's employees to have a "collective work refusal" against Hoyoverse without the protections afforded by the union.
>>527509786this has nothing to do with AI. Chinese law and Mihoyo contract already offers better protection against AI misuise than american ones. More over, the VAs in question werent even part of Sag Aftra, they simply refused work trying to strongarm Mihoyo to sign Sag Aftra contract, violating their own. It lasted for 6 month, so in process they were all reaplaced. They tried to bully VAs that replaced them too.
They were complete cretins, made a joke of themselves on twitter after which left it and got what they deserved. It was litteral mafia scheme where independent VAs recieved threatening letters from SAG AFTRA, and those who signed contracts blatantly violated them.
>>527503318It is the only good combat content in the game. Everything else would be better without combat or dailies (HIA, diskfarm)
>>527509309It's really not needed to progress through the temple stuff.
>>527510020How? By being actually bad fire stunner?
>>527509992that hardly matters when Yi Xuan still BTFOs any team with Vivian
>>527510135>The short version is that Hoyoverse hired Union actors with off-union contracts. They do this because it is easier to exploit and underpay non-union actors.
>flip Hoyoverse to be a union-only employer,Ok, what is the problem with this? As many workers should be unionized as possible.
>which would force them to fire all their non-union voice workers.No, it would force them to help their non-union workers join the union
>Vivian shilling and webms that only would make 14 year olds cum picks up
>>527509992shut the fuck up NERD. All that matters is that Yixuan stomps and Vivian is dogshit.
>>527510369Mihoyo is Chinese company and subject to chinese Unions. No one gives a crap about US mob one. They dont want to work? They will not get work.
>>527510390>he doesn't have the libido of a 14 year oldYour life must be sad.
>Actively ruins every other girl for me.
>All of the anime archetypes pale before a down to earth tradwife.
They got me with these quests. All I want now a women locked into my corner as I do the same for her. This has got me trying to get myself together so I can find my own "Venus."
Man, there are a TON of combat and exploration quests I never did...
>>527509459Nah, he is a dog thiren, he is loyal.
>>527510130It's literally not related to anything like that but the fact that blatant (monetized) fanservice is the opposite of soulful and if your shitty company is pushing out in-your-face softcore porn as optional investment in form of skins I'd literally not spend money out of principle.
>>527510479>tfw already struggles to get hard>Still cums as fast as teenage boy if I do get hardIt's fucking over for me bros...
>>527510497The premium currency adds up decently overtime as you do them.
>>527510489i lost bit of admiration for her when discovered she`s not a competent oneesan, but incompetent clumsy girl at 30 years living with her mother and pets and messing her work tasks.
I`d rather Wise marry a Flower shop owner, at least she seems to be AICS or military veteran.
>>527510489they should give her a better model
>>527510479>Want to cum off the slightest cleavage reveal and butt jiggle>Have constant intrusive fantasies about people>Have boners even during work because you thought of a pretty model onceThat sounds absolutely annoying, the fuck are you talking about?
>14 year olds play this game and use the term "tradwife"
>>527510369Let's say you are a small time voice worker, a youtuber even, who has been contracted for a few dozen hours of voice work per year for a bit character in a hoyoverse game.
In order to join SAG you must
>Have been the lead role in a major project or a minor role in multiple major projects>Pay a 3000 dollar initiation fee to the union>Pay an annual 240 dollar fee plus 1.575% of my income>Only ever work on union only projects or be considered a "scab" by the union on an official level in a business where about 70% of voice work is non-union.
>>527510497I enjoyed a good amount of them but ended up carding the last of Rain's commissions since there were so many.
KINO elysium told me that union are bad.
>>527510634Literally just jack off.
>>527508087For now, I think they are stuck at support, which I actually like. They also seem more ESP like than kung fu magic, which I also like.
Honestly, it would be perfect if they only become playable in 3.0~4.0 as we see them grow their ESP powers.
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>>527510369>>527510679Oh yeah I forgot, you also have to sign your voice rights to the union so they can replicate your voice with a generative AI while paying you a standardized rate at their discretion.
Why is /zzz/ so anti-union? They are the reason you people aren't working 80 hour work weeks. Oh wait, you people are unemployed lmao
>>527510778>Just jack off in public>Nonironic gooner principlesYea.
>>527510823Ironic when their reason for chimping out was ironically "protecting voice actors from AI using their voice"
>>527510769>get M1 Yi Xuan>decide to do all the old HARD story quest>every one is finished in less than 1 minute since its just:>enter combat>press Q
>>527510875Bro I'm vietnam and brown, why you do this to me
>>527509786Nah, SAG is not an union, its a mafia gang. Remember, 3 000 dollars fee for inscription.
>>527510548You don't pay for sex, you pay to get rid of sex.
>>527504161Taimanin faction when????
What's the point of the wing EX special? The SUCC EX special seems much stronger.
>>527510875Because sadly since 2014-15 4chan is full of, as you just discovered, unemployed /pol/tards trying to (ironically) virtue signal to their weird Hitler-fetishist peer group.
Should I play Genshit again?
I haven't touched it since the Fontaine prison arc
>>527510875I've worked union and non union jobs, and modern unions at least in the US are just a second funnel to old boomer faggots to steal your dues and line their pockets. The only jobs in the US you don't get fucked by are commission jobs.
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>>527510875all voice actors are free to join Chinese unions
>>527502629yuzuha looks like a cheap prostitute which is fine but alice swimsuit looks so fucking retarded
>>527510875Any entity, person, country, group or object, has the potential to be a piece of shit and should be judged on it's actions, not what it is at first glance.
A Ferrari that can't go over a speed bump is not a good car
A solid gold frying pan that melts the first time it's used is not a good cooking implement
A union that abuses it's workers is not a good union
>>527511016Are you asking about the EX chain or EX hold? EX chain refunds energy if you block an attack, it also does not consume energy if you end it pre-maturely. M1 hold does more damage in-stun.
>>527511016you should basically never use SUCC EX, even with M4.
All normal EX chains into each other up to 5 times, with M2 you also get 1200% bonus attack there. If enemy attacks frequently - you parry with EX, if not, you spam full chain of 5 attacks, then switch to other char (panda), so that he does EX and switches you back.
AIEEE!!!
IDOL BROS IM SO EXCITED!!!
AIIIIEEEEEE!!!
IMAGINE HOYOLIVE AND IDOL DEBUTS IN REAL LIFE BEFORE AND AFTER THEIR DEBUT IN GAME PLAYING HORROR GAMES AND TALKING TO USSSSSS!!!
I CANT HANDLE IT!!!!
IDOLLLSSS!!!!
I want to bury my head on Yuzuha's premium medium...
Who fucking cares about this SAG shit. You all play in JP voice, right?
Vivi is pure sex bwos... if only i had started playing sooner, she could have been mine...
>>527505976what meme are they gonna do next? a racist gamer frog thiren?
>>527511127Unions are democratic by nature. How can you claim any union is abusing their workers when their leaders are democratically elected by the members?
>>527511227No, I like English Piper too much.
>>527511179As long as they're Japanese I won't mind that at all.
Why people says that the story is about "unions bad" when in they were actually manipulated, to the point that the chief of the union got booted near the end before he could do anything when he learned about the sect?
If anything, its more anticapitalist (as the CCP intended) since Damian is shown as a untrustworthy asshole, and getting help from him is treated as the lesser devil?
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>>527511027no, wait until Nod Krai update - basically whole new game inside game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1U2LnXd5GE
>>527507049reworked. they will have a new mechanic that powercreeps rupture and miyabi. Even the A rank will easily 90 000K Solo DA for a few months
>>527511374am I not going to have to catch up on unskippable story content though?
>>527511326Because democratically elected officials have never abused their power to the detriment of their subjects in any *other* system, right?
>>527511127>Solid goldReal gold is stupid malleable.
The reason why checking gold that was unshaped used to be just to smash it right on the table.
>you can 'recycle' bangboos in the Suibian restoration menu
Wow that is messed up
>>527511238>Didn't really even want her, luck shitted her and m1 in 60 rolls >Helps unbrick my DA clearbibitan is alright even if shes just a mash and quickswap bot
>>527511358its anti Union as intended and theres even additional bit, where in Temple, bangboos discuss about forming own union to protect their rights and otehr bangboos just tell him they are replacable and will just lose jobs
>>527511374>new game insde gameelaborate. Not coming back to genkek since I got Not!Himeko and then quit, but I don't see it being different than all the other region updates
My love for Hoshimi Miyabi today is stonger than yesterday
>>527511545Explain which electoral system is as democratic as a union. Union members elect their representatives, directly vote on whether to strike, directly vote on contracts, etc.
sex with petite tiger thirens
Why does ZZZ keep resetting for me? There's an exclamation mark and new! on everything every time I log in. This is the 3rd day in a row now its happening
>150 Pulls
>No Yi Xuan
>Mfw
I'm glad I have Miyabi and her ball so I still have access to basically BiS teams but I really wanted Yi Xuan. If I dont get her then my levelling up and upgrading the fat fuck panda was wasted and theres less reason to get the fufu tiger girl so I'll have nothing to pull for, for like a month and a half
Anyone else not get her yet? Am I being punished alone?
>>527511640basically like APHO in Honkai Impact 3rd. A separate mode, with separate characters, combat mechanics, map and gameplay. Basically beta test for next Mihoyo game, how APHO was beta for ZZZ. So consider it another new game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiP6Zk6cjrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrxGx7-8Zsc
>>527509031Hi gramps I'm Burnice I BURNICE BURNICE BURNICE GOOOOO
>>527511905>prefarming and prebuildingthe desire sensor strikes once again
>>527511905im skipping her and guaranteeing tiger cunny because i like her design even if she will be useless. I can still 9 star DA so i dont need her.
>>527511227No i play on mute. Every character either speaks in a cheeky way or le tism it's irritating.
>>527511849"Electing" is against the core principle of a democracy
Real democracy is decided by Fortune, you don't get to pick your representatives, Fate does, because it is the only fair and neutral force in the world
You can have your friends join an electoral system and trumps the cards in your favor
You can pander and lie to incite people to vote for you
You can corrupt and offer advantages to incite people to vote for you
Chance alone is trustworthy
>>527511619>otehr bangboos just tell him they are replacable and will just lose jobsWell yeah, they are robots? You can even recycle them.
>>527512108You probably shouldn't play anime-inspired games, bro.
>>527511901Anyone? It's the same thing you get when you login on a new device but this is on the same pc, same connection, etc
>>527512119>"Electing" is against the core principle of a democracyWtf
>>527511849SAG is primarily a Screen Actors Guild, they are voted on primarily by film actors, voice workers have little representation and those working on Mihoyo projects were not allowed to vote due to working on Non-union projects, ergo they were not represented in the democratic process. This was their choice by the way, no one forced them to take non-union work.
However they had to take non-union work because the union could not find sufficient work for them while still requiring them to work union-only.
Furthermore, what are the details of their vote representation? Is it publicly known or confidential? Is the vote split into voting blocks, thus making certain votes worth less than others, or do members with higher stakes or higher wages command more total votes? Democratic systems LOVE to find ways to give specific people more voting power in order to reduce the power of those at the bottom of the chain. "Fi-core" members, referred to by SAG as "Scabs" for working non-union projects are already marginalized in this way.
Fundamentally, if you are not successful in SAG, you're free to pay the dues but you will not be given the ability to vote. They really only care about those who can earn for them.
>>527511951>how APHO was beta for ZZZHow was it a prototype for ZZZ?
The main distinct feature of that mode was aerial combat which is missing in ZZZ.
Better yet what feature did APHO have that also ZZZ has and HI3 doesn't?
>>527511179would miyabi make a good idol? music is more powerful than bullets, she need to step up her game and change her strategy is she really wants to defeat hollows
>>527502629>alice honkers>yuzuha buttvery nice
>>527502629Not a fan of the color choices for Alice's. Love Yuzuha's colors though. Is there a name for that type of pattern on the torso?
>>527511951>APHO was beta for ZZZ>No jump button>Level design massively reduced to arenas and corridors>Couldn't give Eous and Phaethon a skilltree for custom off field.>Bonds fell off to just walking around than a mini-adventure>Only a single LIMITED agent is buffed than Cunning Hares being reworked.I wish.
>>527512227You are making shit up. SAG-AFTRA operates on a one-member, one vote basis like any other union.
>>527512262parry/dodge mechanics HI3 quickswitch/slowtime is different. Combo attacks and basic attacks and skill combinations different depending on input and timings. Skill upgrades different paths - is present in ZZZs Hollow zone now (which is also used as beta test for buffs).
Only thing really missing is Aerial combat and i am sure they`ll just keep it for future chars as means of powercreep.
>>527508689I rolled for this rerun of Astra even though I fucking hate her, and got KOTTED (M1).
I guess that's what I get.
Tempted to buy her ball and just use her desu, is she still total trash even M1 + ball?
>No swimsuit for the Cunning Hares
One job, Mihoyo, ONE FUCKING JOB
>>527502629Belle mogs so hard.
>>527512224"Democracy" is "Power by the people"
EVERYONE among citizens is a potential ruler, and the ruler is drawed randomly across citizens
A "democratic" regime ruled by elections is aristocratic by nature, because the rulers will all come from a distinct social class aka the people who can afford making politics their livelihood, and not the common working citizen
>>527509786Mihoyo is not struck by their union.
The VAs refusing to go to work are not actually protected by strike laws, kek
They are simply not doing their job
>>527512204its happening to me too
>>527509282I can't tell if LN's laughing or yawning in this picture and I think that's very fitting
>>527512559With M1 + Ball shes barely on par with random banner dps without their ball.
>>527509071Unironically, it has better gameplay than the main game.
>you know who at war
>cuckposting generaly down
hmmmmmm
>>527512686Fucking RIP, fuck it then I'll just bin her forever like everyone else
Does anyone know why they reduced the coffee battery from 100>80 and 80>60 for the double drops?
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>>527512530Can you please prove this to me?
Also isn't it fun to know that a democratic system can elect it's leaders with a consensus among as little as 26% of it's members.
>>527512692>can't cancel basic attacks into specialI didn't like that. The game's core combat isn't designed with that much commitment in mind. Thankfully, you don't have to time the parries or even dodge. You get superarmor from the shields and just mash your way to victory. It's not nearly as good as the main game's combat.
>>527512168For the record i understand both jp and en. These over-the-top cheekiness is not anime-inspired, it's eastern trying too hard to imitate western stereotypes.
>>527512805technically all the standard characters are usable they just have to reach m6. My m2 with ball soldier 11 still gets mogged by Burnice + Vivi no ball team
>>527512702make the most of the relative peace
>>527513014it will eventually happen if you keep playing, especially as they give out selectors since day 1 unlike genshin and aren't bloating the standard pool. so just pick your favorite and dump all selectors into them to eventually turn into a real character.
>>527513014Almost all of my standard characters are M6 and i'm >f2p btw
>>527513238Do you convert your polys into regular pulls?
>>527513126Eventually in like 5 years at the current rate
>>527513238We're talking about S ranks
>>527512851The SAG constitution is available online. You are just regurgitating anti-union misinformation you've probably heard from crappy youtube videos lmao
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>>527512851>>527513314Actually scratch that, the most recent election represented 22% of the constituency with only 18% voting for the current president of the guild.
>>527512702>WuWa falseflagging down>Vivian wanking down>Super autistic counter spamming towards any criticism towards the game is downHm hmm HMMMMM.
>>527513313>We're talking about S ranksAh my bad, I misunderstood
hi gacha refugee here. my last gacha was dragalia
i heard ZZZ and WuWa looks similar but ZZZ looks better than wuthering waves and i liked burnice back when she was being posted everywhere. Will i struggle playing this f2p and be bricked the entire time?
also a side note but why is the google playstore score so low? im guessing some past grievance that tanked the ratings or something
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>>527504521>Joyous followers are trapped in VR and calls it Divine Maze
Hello,
When I play games I like having a guy as the person I play as. I read somewhere that it's better to pick the female self-insert if you're a guy though, is this true?
Thanks in advance.
>>527513409The google play store score is low simply because ZZZ is a bad game. I wouldn't recommend both ZZZ and Wuwa because they are both shitty games. In fact don't start playing gacha again because you will regret it. Gacha was a mistake.
>>527513460If you want to be cucked by a male who isn't you, choose Wise (the male MC)
If you want to be cucked by a girl who isn't you, choose Belle (female MC)
>>527513409Wuwa = openworld chink slop
ZZZ = urban fantasy action corridor kino
Like all hoyo games you are never bricked ever really you can get all awards never rolling the gacha at all.
>>527513409google play score literally only measures how many people can run the game. lack of support for old OS, hardware performance, storage space, etc
>>527512559Her ball is fine as a copeball but don't buy it.
You get respect for using Kot.
e.g. Kot clear is equal to any sub-60k miyabi score.
>>527513409ZZZ and WuWa aren't all that similar.
Genshin is the Hoyo game that is similar to WuWa, but WuWa fans have decided to pretend it's ZZZ because their sales shitposting against Genshin always backfired and ZZZ is more in their revenue league.
>>527513547I just like playing as a guy, but thanks I'll keep it in mind.
>>527513717Or maybe because they launched within one month of each other. Same generation of gacha.
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what the fuck is happening
>>527513409Dragalia....lost...
>>527513717Genshin is a fantasy game. ZZZ and Wuwa are both post-apocalyptic sci fi games.
>>527513409Wuwa is not similar to ZZZ at all. Its more like Genshin, which mean Open World ARPG stuff. ZZZ is more or less a mission based ARPG, even the new explorable zone is closer to a classic Monter Hunter map, complete with loading screen between the zones.
>>527513717W**a doesn't compete with Genshin in sales, so they can't shitpost with any integrity. Doesn't matter that the game is a carbon copy of Genshin, better compare to the action game with similar sales.
>>527513805dont think bout it too hard, the writers sure didnt
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>wants to drop all her bad luck onto her stock trading father
kek
>>527513561>>527513717>>527513819thanks this is pretty much the answer i was looking for. as long as i get to play the game without being gated for not oinking is fine by me
Why are the new PAID summer skins for playable agents being migged by a FREE FeMC skin?
It doesn't really make sense financially
>>527513805why is Wise standing on Vivian's head...
>>527513805I was replaying the story missions on the HDD (awful experience after TV removal) and this shit kept happening. Me and Vivian were teleporting on top of each other during the cutscenes.
>>527513962Boobs_Bigger_Than_Bangboo is not a tag I'd expect to see on Belle any time soon.
>>527513962Its player friendly.
>>527513964Bibi loves bottoming for lord Pheyphey
>>527513816retarded take when gameplay and combat wise they're completely different and the story and setting isn't even close to similar either so both being "post-apocalyptic sci fi games" isn't relevant at all.
>>527513805Pretty sure at that point the proxies still instantly died in Hollows.
>>527513962my sisterwife having a lewder summer skin is more important
>>527513952You better ask /wuwa/ if you want an honest answer.
>>527514092Wuwa's combat and setting are more similar to ZZZ than Genshin.
How did this skin even get approved?
>>527514259Lack of sales or maybe the absolute abhorrent chinksloppa costume
>>527513409Wuwa is better than ZZZ thats the truth
>>527514442>open world>betterLmao
>temple is "done"
>only thing left is forced time locks due to the depths quests
So what happens once you hit 45? Is there even a point to continue running it?
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>>527513978It keeps happening kek
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Without whaling how good is my Sanby
>>527514579You are fulfilling Vivian's fetish.
>>527514571Nothing changes
>>527514593Pretty good. Mine's have ~2400 atk, 50% c.rate, 200% c.dmg and a electric damage bonus on disk 5 for good measure, and she is doing pretty fine.
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>>527514571polys, mats, and etc probably
>>527514567everything is just better in wuwa its just facts
>>527514593Dmg% 5 I guess? You want more crit%. Aim for 1 : 2 - 2.5x
>>527513717>because their sales shitposting against Genshin always backfirednot post natlan
>>527513978I want bibian to teleport on top of me
>>527514593If your disc 5 is electric% dmg then those stats are good. If its not then you still got a lot disc farming to do.
>>527514864I quit Wuwa after 3 patches because of open world, I quit Genshin after a long time because of Open world years ago.
Fuck off with your open world gacha slop. I actually welcome any healthy competition but the only real ones ZZZ has currently is PGR (outdated) and HI3rd (outdated)
Finally got M2 yixuan and wow...
>>527514259Genuine question
I don't mind Belle skin being sluttier since I've been fucking my onshore, sister-wifr day 1, but will yume players like being the designated "yariman" compared to the other agent's... tamer summer outfits?
>>527514918>You want more crit%. Aim for 1 : 2 - 2.5xShe is fine in crit%, no idea what youre talking about. Anything else would be minmaxxing her. If that anon is already clearing content and SD then its not needed.
>>527515114yes, because they want to mogged others
>>527515164Sure it goes to minmaxing territory, but Anby deserves it.
50% crit seems so low these days.
>>527514918>>527515016She has Elec% on disc 5. Cant show it there cuz the stupid slider would hide the other stats
>>527515114I'm mad we didn't get costumes like Belle's for the rest of the agents. Hell I'd settle for a school swimsuit.
>>527515114Onahole*
Sister-wife*
Excuse me, I'm drunk on spanish wine at 3 pm
>>527515280Sanby gets 22% extra crit rate from discs and passive. That anon has 75% CR, not 53%
>>527515280That's 75% CR in combat, it's fine
>>527515280Anby gets +10% from her core and +12% from her disks. That means 50% is actually 72%, which is fine.
>>527504521Edgekino arc soon brothers
>>527513952>Only answered to tribalism based repliesHMMMMM
>>527514593Does Sanby really only need 50% crit?
>>527502629I feel like they have the same ass model for all the teen/hag female characters
>>527513962This is way more dull than his BA stuff because her outfit is busy as hell.
Sanby is the only one I regret rolling, got everyone except Lighter and Hugo
>>527515668you posted those answers while I was typing. 75% is still low, you will notice the difference if you go higher.
>>527515574I would clap so hard the earth would shatter.
>shit goes absolutely sideways>Belle dies, Nicole dies, they all die>Wise is left a complete mess>goes to HZ alone>somehow manages to stumble deep inside to Helios Academy>Arche is there>he tells Wise he can get another chance>shows him the crystal door>Wise hops through >pops out during the Calamity as Joyous
>>527515952>75% is still lowIts the bare minimum but its not low.
It depends on the character, usually ones that apply multiple hits its fine missing a crit once in a while unlike characters that have single but massive hitting attacks, like Hugo.
>>527515952Some people still don't understand the 1 to 2 thing. Anby wants basically 100% crit-rate because she also gets further crit damage boosts via her ball and core passive.
>>527502629>Alice/Yuzuha swimsuits are almost worth leaving the F2P lifeNot even close and you clearly have new thing syndrome. I wont even take you seriously.
>>527516173This is a retarded take. Literally every agent wants 100 CR.
75 is still decent for clearing SD anyway. Anything else would get into minmaxxing autistic territory
>>527516356what the hell is this slop
>>527515952Sanbyfag here
I literally dont see the difference. No I wont farm her set anymore when she has insane CD already
Good night
>>527515921You would be regretting rolling Crept'ter and 2ndgo so it checks out
This being the first cannonically black character in the franchise,
Is picrel a nog w or a nog L?
I never regret skipping lighter lawrence.
>>527516408kino
something hoyoge will never have
I have a question about the crit rate things? Does a crit count as individual hits, or an attack? For example, some of Sanby's attack are two slashes per button input. My question is, does the two slashes have their own chance of doing a crit, or they have the exact same chance considering that they are part of the same single attack?
>>527516651I never regret skipping flopter AND slopyi
>>527516128>>527516173Please show me any of you 2 a single agent you have that has 100 CR and 200CD.
Damn lighter lives rent free inside these pathetic brainlets
>>527516606He is not black, he is just made of wood.
What is the zzz equivalent of this?
Do Wise and Belle trade shifts sleeping in the actual bed? I feel like I alternate between objectives to sleep on the coach and going upstairs to the Warm Bed.
I'm not the only one who's getting new and ! marks on basically everything since 2.0, right?
Can't wait for Jufufu to BTFO Lighterfags as the BiS fire stunner.
>>527516754Wise's wife... Mibibi...
>>527516856Is everything in wuthering waves just straight up stolen from other games?
Is there anything original in this garbage?
>>527516606elfy...forgotten
>>527516887Nah it happened to everyone. Some tard intern is getting fired as we speak
>>527516856That was incredibly anticlimactic.
>>527516856I know we are in a thread about a game that takes directly from other action games, but Jesus Christ.
Is Yi xuan weak right now compared to the good teams in the game? I barely get 40k with her with her on her shilled boss and she currently has acess to on of the biggest buffs ever in DA
>Agent Max HP increases by 30%, Ultimate DMG increases by 40%.
>After using an Ultimate, Energy and Adrenaline Generation Rate increase by 15%, Ether DMG and Ice DMG increase by 40% for 20s.
Meanwhile my eve with the shitty middle buff performs just as good as her
Both are C0w1
>>527517136>is the second best DPS in the game weak right now?Show your build faggot. No way youre not clearing the boss with a Yixuan
>>527517136Eve is good and has her best team already
YX is not. Eve/yabi/XY are the top 3 right now probably
>>527516930Its probably an homage, no?
>>527517136swapping pan for astra is probably an improvement to be honest
>>527517240>Not clearingThe pic clearly shows she did 43k on the boss wich is double the amount needed to clear, but she still feels weak comapred to top units who have acess to proper teams, specailly with the massive buff she has on this DA
>>527517274I will wait for bringer to come back but to me hugo also feels stronger than YX right now
>>527517393I tried, astra lowers the score a lot, maybe I am having a skill issue dunno
>you NEED astra
>you NEED lighter
>you NEED your dpsโ signature weapon
>hp inflation is too much
>miasma is overpowered
itโs looking more and more like a skill issue
Does Nicole 25% ether power up improve Yixuan?
>>527517547As someoen who loves to use s11 its unbeliable how much Lighter unbricked her
>>527517598no reason why it wouldn't. Her def shred is wasted though
Do you think they regret blantantly overshotting Lighter's power despise his niche being half the elements of this game?
Now they can't release new ice and fire girls without balancing them around HIM, which will obviously impact their sales negatively.
>>527517521>>527517547the duality of gacha players
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>>527517521I love how seeing this thumbnail made sadtardass lose his shit lmao!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mU0Vey6OrM
>>527517521Always was and always will be
>AAAIIEEE MIYABI POWERCREEP RUINED EVERYTHINGThey were probably right, not because it ruined the balance of the game at all but because it bred a bunch of braindead metacucks and doomfags crying over non issues
>>527516356You didn't even post the best part
>Players numbers start increasing>SEA players complain about paid skins>Picrel
>>527517737Ligther being that good may be one of the reasons for rupture to exist
As of now rupture feels like a useless gimmick since enemies barely spend 15 seconds each fight using miasma but ligther can't buff the class so you are forced to use him for attackers only
Overall yeah, they probably overtunned his kit a lot and regret it
>>527516472This entire season isn't creeping Lighter though?
>anyone in Season 2
>"needing" Lighter
>>527517547the only one you NEED is mibibi because bringer without her is cope
I only have Nicole as my current ether agent and no one else. I want to get at least one more. Should I get astra or will there be an upcoming ether agent?
>>527517737Nah, he's great but his kit is not perfect (vulnerable standing still and can miss his collapse punch when the enemy moves). They can easily make a better version of him
Like Yuzuha is literally replacing Astra in most anomaly teams
I just like an easier time than doing optimum rotations with A-ranks.
>>527518265>tfw have drow and robot fetish>still no elfy porn exists even after that movie dateAIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>527518196nicole is the best agent in the game and astra is a fag, just wait for idols, one of them is bound to be eth
>>527518349the real gacha experience is rolling for who you like and no really seeing the big fuss of rolling for meta until the girl you rolled for because you like her is the meta and now that feeling of steamrolling all content is embedded in you and you can't get it out.
>>527517878What's ZZZ equivalent of this?
Who did you use to clear difficult 15 of the Hollow Zero?
>>527518349As long as you can 9 star you won anyone else is just coping having paid for bigger number.
>>527518623Anyone. It's not that difficult
>>527518623Jane and killed the final boss in 30 seconds
>>527516173>>527514918Never understood the 1:2 Crit ratio thing
Like obviously you want to maximize both, but at some point getting too much CR is gonna cost you either CD or other sources of damage.
imo anything over than 75% CR is getting overkill.
>>527510628>30She just started her commissioning work 2 years ago.
I highly doubt she's actually older than Wise.
How do I play Jufufu? Does she play similar to Qingyi?
I wont be pulling her. But if you do, you are based and have my respect.
>>527517521>>527517854>>527517874>The third world discord (we're better than trannies) are awakeCorn even admitted this takes unholy amounts of stamina that bricked his farming.
>Dark Souls 1 isn't janky, I beat it deathless after 90 runs
>>527514571It gives mats weekly. Lvl up mats are pretty good to stockpile.
>>527516856Genshin Impact
I am going to skip every unvoiced conversation in this game
>>527517136no, you just suck, skill issue
>>527519264when will the ai slop end?
>>527517136you are just bad, people do 65k with her
>>527518265She has the best cinema event somehow
My heart got grabbed by a robot human love story...
>yx = miyabi
>soukaku = fufu
>harumasa = panda
>glasses guy = NPC woman
>>527519595CAn you do 65k with her?
>>527519687cant you? skill issue
>>527519613Glasses guy is 100% the Aizen of season 2
We still haven't found out how anyone knew our airship route at the start of 2.0
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>>527519687you really dont want to compete with me..
>>527519613Wrong
Panda = Soukaku
Jufufu = Yanagi
Yixuan = Harumasa
Aizen = Miyabi
>>527519265What it shows is that if it's possible to do with level 20 B RANK Engines, there's no excuse for anyone playing that is casually rolling limiteds they like here and there to cry about it.
If you're one of those that has been saving since 1.0 and cry about things being difficult that's on you
>>527519820>vegetakneeling.jpg
>>527519820i thought i was bricked holy i kneel
>>527517136Play better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DBuVilrgow
Shitton of kill runs on youtube, boss is total joke with yx
>Aizen this, aizen that
Who?
>>527519820>>527520020Don't worry bros, we are the average zzz playerbase, those sweaty elitist fat chuds from 4chins does not count.
>just retry the stage 63 times and play perfectly bro
>>527519412If I have a skill issue as someoen who only rolls for c0 agents then you guys are terrible
>>527520053>Trigger with Qingy's ball>!73% crit dmgSaw the video and the one plaiyng does basically the same rotation I do
I will try nicole instead of panda tho, lets see if that upgrades the boss, still thinking that her having a buff that doubles her overall damage should make her more impressive
>>527519429Needs a good tonguing
>>527519903Have you considered, and this is really hard for you to understand as it's one of the few games you can play.
It's really fucking boring and stressful.
>>527520419>If I have a skill issue as someoen who only rolls for c0 agents then you guys are terribleas you confirmed by my screenshot, i am expert at "skill issues" and i confidently tell you have one
>>527519820Anon just remove vivian and run duo panda yixuan. You will get 60k trust me
>>527520348If you play perfectly why retry it
Skill issue
[ZZZ 2.1 Beta]
ZZZ Test 1 Advanced Training
Dual Chain Attack
On-Field Counter
Coordination
via Seele
>>527520515>CoordinationWut dis
>>527516856Genshin Impact, the game you all gave up on rivalling and shitposting in the threads of in favour of a segmented arena battler
Get me 6 stars an I'm out simple as
>>527519820what the hell are these teams
>>527520515What? Character specifics or global mechanics. Is Seele a trusted source?
>>527520512Actual million dollar prize pot competitive players get stunlocked from stress or get stray losses from randos.
You're 1% of 1% of 0.001%.
>>527520647How did you get M5 Lycaon lmao
>>527520647based, fuck elitist chuds
>>527520510i done it once, i dont plan on doing it more. What does it matter?
>yxian en va
they are not even trying
>>527520603>>527520708>>527520731New in-game tutorial strings for new combat mechanics on the beta
Dual chain attack at least implies a paired animation for certain team comps
>>527520826What's wrong, I think its good.
I'm annoyed they decided to make YX fly backwards
>>527520489Unironic skill issue, it's meant to be the hardest content in the game, you either like it enough to put time into it or you get 6* and call it a day
>>527520708Remember anniversary spending event and miyabi paid skin?
>>527520732Just luck I suppose. Didn't use neither of the selector options on him.
>>527520834Isn't dual chain attack just cancelling a chain so your dps gets 2 chains
how does Rina fly anyway, it's she a brap-jet?
>>527520968That was Flying Flame, yes?
>>527520515>>527520834>Even more mechanicskek
>>527520708>Is Seele a trusted sourceYes
>>527520515Finally the Astralyn combo is near.
>>527520996Magnet levitation
>>527518797It's quite simple math where there's breakpoints for critting more leads to more dps than critting bigger.
>>527520968That wasn't Seele
>>527521036Why is that a bad thing
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>>527516356I expected it to say "Please be patient I have autism"
>>527520650Left in 1.4 returned in 1.7, so missing most META characters, didnt had anyone to proper fill 3rd team. (since boss has electro ressistance and my 3rd is Zhu Yuan/Qingyi). Have zero fire dps.
>>527520974No that would be double chaining
Dual implies two at once
Did we actually did anything remotely familiar to our field specialty known as the legendary hacker known as phyton?
>>527521286ermm you mastered some chi energy and then used it to sense your surroundings like a sonar..?
>known as the legendary hacker known
>>527516356>We just made Astoria-AsunaWould jump immediately on if it was an action game.
I'm not a brown moepig self inserter so nothing to do with hating other gacha, I'm just already doing NIKKE for my 2D game as is.
>>527521286Proxy isnt a hacker. Rain, is hacker for example. Thousand faces is hacker. Wise/Belle are basically guides in hollows. They assisted some probably illegal stuff before, but it mostly involves in hollow stuff, so at most - ripping up corporations or stealing military gear.
>>527519264i'm probably not pulling out if you know what i mean
>>527519429Why do I let my dick decide my investments...
>>527520515Sound like co-op functions to me.
>>527520884she;s just reading her lines for the first time
monotone with zero emphasis and emotion
also like 90% of over en vas missing a fucking de esser
>>527521286Where is your caretaker
>>527521036Was this post AI generated?
>>527520951>HardestThrough it being a DPS check which your favorite CCer barely succeeded with hours of work.
The least fun difficulty scaling possible, but that would require you to play more than F2P games.
>>527521573>co-opProbably the best guess here
Why would "on-field counter" be specified if only 3 agents could do it. Two are limiteds.
>>527521286I don't know what we did
we didn't even CULTIVATE, we learned a bunch of moves that proxy never actually does (it's always your agent) and stood there as a cameraman for shifu
>>527521715The button gave up.
>>527521286The new abilities actually fits with their proxies activity since it consist of
>Making objects appear and disappear, opening new paths>Find clues in their environements>Destroying obstaclesAlso, we have commissions in the waifu peninsula.
Gacha players really like to throw money around huh? I don't even activate Mindscapes on my standard S rank agents.
>>527521754you are right
the whole cultivation theme amounted to
>meet shifu at night>lets cultivate>black screen>wow junior proxy your chi feels much stronger todaywhat the fuck happened
>>527522076Wait, we can deactivate them?
>>527519264>I wont be pulling her.Almost no one will.
I'd bet money on her not even outselling Trigger.
>>527521523>The person who infiltrates, pilfers, and steals information from higher and/or private authorities like the military and TOPS from their computer isn't a hacker.
>>527521764It did more than anyone expected of it
>>527522076you could say that for any hobby/entertainment/luxury in the world.
>>527521523Bro wise did some hackerino in astra arc
>>527522171yeah there are toggle switches on the left. It was a requested feature but the only real situation in which uninstalling a dupe would be desireable is C6 Bennet in Genshin, which does not have that feature.
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>>527522174Game starts with said "hacker" being hacked by actual hacker.
Wise is overhyped drone operator and repairman.
>>527522107>>527521754>Don't even get to see cultivation that's cool in the cultivation patchHow are you WORSE than Xianzhou and Huanglong, holy shit.
>>527522280Those toggles don't actually do anything, they only change the picture
>>527521641she's good imo. I think it's her character to be emotionless. The emotional bits in the story she did pretty well
If all beings have ether particles inside of them, and we can now manipulate ether, does that mean we can control other peoples bodies?
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Miyabi is BWC-coded
>>527522172I bet Trigun's rerun will sell more than Jufufu
>>527522376>You can't be hacked as a hackerDo you think it works like the movies where they slam enter to finish, when it's a fucking prompt that's not on DOS?
Nobody cares about your EN tranny dub you ESL retards.
>>527520515FUCk co-op stop wasting resources and manpower on that shit noone asked for
>>527522645>Big Wise Cock
>>527522724no, they ask ChatGPT to do it
>>527522812it's okay fraudzone, nobody likes your tryhard videos
>>527522812Yes naturally non-native english speakers would prefer to play the game in a language they can barely speak.
Oh wait, that's people who play in CN...
>>527522812If I didn't understand Japanese I definitely would've used the EN dub, having to look down at the subtitles during scenes would've annoyed me a lot more than the voiceover being subpar.
>>527522919What level of rent-free is this
>>527522812I'm EN monolingual and hit my head as a child i cant concentrate on subs and a different language at the same time... at least it wont matter what audio i pick as im registered partially deaf and it is deteriorating
>>527522812Normalfag game, go away weeb.
Why's your thread so low quality compared to other hoyo generals?
I just skip anything that isn't voiced
if it isn't voiced it's probably not important
feeling zesty today
even - futa grace
odd - futa astra
0 - shifu
I am not japanese
I do not understand japanese
the game is not japanese
the game developers are not japanese
your favorite seiyu does not know you exist
>>527523108Just like how EN dubbing and ESLfriends lives rent free in your head
>6 hours threads
This is what silencing the floptershillschizo does to this threads.
>>527522812>playing a chinese game in a language you don't understand
I never knew some people need to actually concentrate on subtitles with full effort and become completely unable to do anything else for the duration, I always just kind of absorbed them in my peripheral vision
>>527523401I ask because he has the earrape EN dub clearly audible in his videos
>>527523108>Rentfree>Brought up within the hour>New video dropped when it did>Obvious the comments is a lot of people who come here since they're whining about Sainta guy or whateverLMAO
>>527523359>hmm>haha>ummno reason to skip now isn't it
>>527522587>If all beings have ether particles inside of themWhere did you even get this
>>527523537You can cry about EN dubs and seethe about it forever
>>527523516the term "speedreader" gets a lot of play as an insult but the ability to look at an entire sentence at the same time and at least "glean the vibe" of it's meaning is not a base-line human skill, I personally have to read each word individually and, ironically, can usually type faster than I can read.
>>527523591I said it's rent free because his brain immediately associated an image of Corin with a youtuber
>>527522587Superpower of being able to control the microplastics in everyone's bodies.
>enough polychromes to get Astra
>will be at 0 when Eve drops in 1 month
Decisions decisions
>>527523334you should have a look at /hsrg/ right now. They were spamming bbcshit and talking about us like we're their wuwa. Also some kind of vagina posting from threadcelebs
>>527523723Ahh understandable, but mutually also a firm possibility since he's like one of the few remaining cornposters.
It happens.
>>527523782>They were spamming bbcshit and talking about us like we're their wuwa.that's just the blackedfag who shits up /gig/ too, he uses eula and blade images and cries about "black culture" and zzz while evading bans. if he gets upset he spams scat and shitlog porn
I've played 2.0 and I say Damian Blackwood did everything right
Cornbro got bullied into redoing the video with shitdisks instead of shitballs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9T5_lXpYZw
>>527523902he`ll be playable. He`ll just be standing on field in one place like Yao, while Zhao will do all the fighting while he passivel throws wads of cash at her
>>527523991and he was still able to do it. if its achievable with that team and that garbage ass build, why cant (You) do it with a moderate build and limited characters?
>>527523779Are you assuming Evelyn is going to rerun in 2.1?
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>>527524019No, John Zenless will
Evelyn will rerun in 2.2 in time for Fire Support Orphie
>>527523641The game literally says that Ether corruption happens because reactions of ether inside the body and the outside environment
>>527524098send me the function for dmg output and i will
r2oxr
>>527523668The humility i have to ultimately have missing tv mode is:
While a lot of people are genuinely third worlders with absolute dogshit internet, they also aren't hardcore fighting and rhythm game players who can pattern recognize within 140ms. So they can't have the machine gun pace I had with it.
>>527503008>feel like this game is just honkai impact 3rd nowSand found in the Desert
>>527524278That's fan made. The leakers barely know the limited characters that going to show up in the future, they definitely don't know shit about future reruns.
>>527523991>can get close to 11k with m0 haven't even used the resonacebooguess my rotations is just ass
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