Thread 527609540

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>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's first game Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/

>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview

>MAJOR NEWS
May 20 Heart of Democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmXtgHs2ODg
Jun 12 Force of Law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHuOJoeXdYA


>LATEST PATCHES
May 13 1.003.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516335345719051928
Jun 10 1.003.101 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516337874624317890
Jun 12 1.003.102 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/580514905803718665

>>527609375
yeah, its solid if you have a build where you're focussed on doing something and you don't have time to throw strategems out.

Just lacks a strong identity for utiliity

>>527609479
Ever since they showed the real kill counter of the strategem people realized how shit it is along with the seeker grenades.

The one utility it has is giving the guy with light armor a hellbomb pack and telling him to run next to a jammer and blow it up.

I HATE SQUIGGERS!

>>527609552
He's not wrong. The majority of bug players are absolute shitters who still manage to regularly die to the easiest complete faction in the game. They don't play the game to challenge themselves.

Smoke is a good utility when you know how it actually works.

>>527609668
Or just use gas and have more utility and damage.

>>527609580
You can easily wipe whole bot/illuminate drops with a single portable hellbomb. Ignoring the fact it's the most kino backpack strat in the game, it's genuinely very good.

>>527609283
>throw orbital napalm at a fortress or meganest
>entire area off limits for a minute
>won't kill spawners
>all spawners alerted
>bug breach/drop called
>conga line of stickbugs emerges from the smoke
>team will kill loop for next 10 minutes
>at least I got BIG NUMBER
Every orbital napalm user deserves to get hit with a metal rod in the balls.

>>527609668
How about you bring an airstrike and solve the problem permanently?

>>527609629
man that goes pretty hard.

When do we finally go on the offensive narratively speaking? Getting tired of all these defensive MOs.

>>527609702
Except that if you're solo and more than 150 meters away from teammates, the instant you die every single nearby enemy is going to despawn so there's going to be nothing for the armor to kill.

>most popular stratagems are 500kg, Napalm barrage and the fucking Gatling
Pubbies are all fucking retarded, holy liberty man

>>527609762
because I already have shit to solve the DPS problem, smoke is about survivability.

I HATE SWIGGERS!

>>527609852
Napalm barrage is busted, it's not surprising all randos bring it.

>>527609629
That harvester is gonna miss all of them

Tommorow's patchnotes:
Fixed: Justice was mistakenly made not available to the players.

>>527609836
Pretty sure either the Illuminate Cult event or the Meridia Collapse event will require offense.

>>527609927
Yeah, if you throw it on a breach and even then only on d9/d10
Too bad your average pubbie still uses it for base clearing at which it sucks

What do I bring to succeed against these stalker-bug fags

>>527609839
You can still be off by yourself in a range that doesn't cause despawns. Like, you'd be the first person to run off into a meganest to drop a portable hellbomb in there with the team following up afterward. If you get crushed by a charger the suicide vest will kill it on explosion. But ideally the best armour for the armour is in the superstore since your gameplay does play around getting into a position that actually matters on death instead of having more armour. And like sure you could use the engineer armour to do the same thing, but all the light engineer armours look awful.

>>527610076
Bring a shotgun

I can't stop using the warrant. The DPS is so fucking awful, but theres something insanely satisfying about shooting that gun. Like theres so much going on with that thing. Like guided mode sniping chaff in the smoke before they see me, unguided mode killing hulks and chargers from the front, using unguided mode to headshot chaff infront of me and have the bullet spiral straight into the heavy unit in the patrol.

It's a dog shit awful secondary, but an amazingly fun primary weapon.

>>527610110
>But ideally the best armour for the armour
*armour for the armour effect*

>>527609727
Orbital napalm is awfull for bases but pretty good for breaches/drops.
You just bring AT to snipe all heavies while all the chaff gets turned to ash.

>>527610076
stagger.
map awareness.
Greens to draw aggro.
Gas
frens

When do I get assigned my Coretta Kelly gf with pre-signed C-01 Permit?

>>527610076
condoms

>d10 is full of sweaty tryhards
>d6 is full of dif4 shitters who want a carry for super samples
What is the comfiest difficulty?

>>527610110
CM-67 titan looks good

>>527603165
I think difficulty 11 and 12 should just be -5/10 minutes in the mission respectively.

>>527610189
Same, i love it despite how bad it feels sometimes.
Kinda wish it was full auto so you can really use the lockon, just holding down the trigger till its empty or killed everything (it won't shoot if it doesn't have a lockon).

>>527609852
>Eagle 500
Of fucking course, not only is it a very strong stratagem but it's effectively the poster stratagem of the game.

>Orbital Napalm
It's extremely strong, don't know why you're so confused. Toss it on a Bug Breach, no more Bug Breach.

>Orbital Gatling
Again, a very useful stratagem. Not the strongest, but has extremely strong utility in area denial and Bug Breach clearing, and its cooldown is nowhere near as murderous as Orbital Napalm or 380.

>>527610419
My highest difficulties are too strong for you, helldiver. You need to play on a lower difficulty.

>>527610340
One with friends, or solo bots

>>527610438
For me it's unguided only, and lock-on when sniping light enemies. Ironically spend more time waiting for the gun to lockon than I do to just click on heads.

>>527610326
That ship has sailed, you're getting a 4 armed, tentacled mouthed queen to lord over your government mandated breeding habitat with her energy whip

>>527610402
That's my go to armour for jump pack + grenade launcher shenanigans, but I still find it a visually boring armour. The biggest offender being the helmet, though.

>>527610340
D10 but you stop giving a fuck. 7-9 is also full of level 50's and 60's scurrying for samples

>>527610189
>Like guided mode sniping chaff in the smoke before they see me
I have been enjoying smoke orbital + warrant way too much vs bots

>>527610539
ARROWHEAD.
I AM VERY MUCH READY.
DIFFICULTY 3 HAS GOTTEN TO EASY.
I REQUIRE ONLY YOUR HIGHEST DIFFICULTY.

>>527610419
D11 is no revives

>>527610340
9
it's really farming on 3 while listening to something else in the background

We need Kellyslop for other factions

>>527610562
>tentacled mouthed

There should be an optional difficulty modifier where you only get one reinforcement on a cooldown. I'd say none but the game sometimes likes to fuck up and get you stuck or something.

>>527610542
Lockon is near instant though, i haven't had to wait for a lockon yet.
Shame unguided is such a mess atm, locking onto mediums and having broken ironsights.

>>527610664
>smoke orbital + warrant
A man of culture I see.

And there you have it. Instant 8% chunk, city is secure, and more than 12 hours of Eagle Storm to use.

My guess is that Joel decided to "separate" city liberation from planetary liberation, so that liberation towards a city doesn't count as liberation towards the planet, until the city is freed and then one huge chunk of liberation is added to the planet. Everyone on Alta was in the city, which explains why the planetary liberation rate was so low, but now that Porte Liberte is free we're back to non-megacity gameplay, which means liberation rate is going to shoot back up after the recalibration.

are we back to monthly warbonds? I still don't have all the super store armor but I don't want to spend the sc if we got the monthly bonds back

>>527610562
So fake, how are you guys falling for this?

>>527610805
>Shame unguided is such a mess atm,
I kinda like it. Means I can prioritize different enemy types based on my guidance mode, and I can do funny shit where I curve my bullets.

>>527610907
Lolno

If bullet sponge enemies are artificial difficulty then so is fewer lives.

>>527610787
nah we need a mission of theseus modifier where dying boots you from the mission and replaces you with another person that has queued up with only 12 total reinforcements. Finishing and finishing from start to finish yield different rewards.

>>527610981
the problem I have with bullet sponge enemies is that it's just a DPS check. Like squids become infinitely easier when you just pick strategems that put more damage on the table.

>>527610953
Make it 3 fire types.
Lockon to chaff
Lockon to mediums
Unguided
And i don't think the bullets curve, do they?

>>527610781
Only good humans receive nonprocreative acts. Your sperm count is low from years of consuming Libertea. You will consume the legume nutrient paste we have provided until you are a fit population generating unit.

>>527611047
I dig that.

>>527610907
Maybie? Force of Law came out quicker than other warbonds. So perhaps other warbonds will come sooner as well?

>>527611078
Only issue is that it'd be too complicated for a secondary at that point (it already is honestly)

>And i don't think the bullets curve, do they?
Yeeeeeees they do. If you lock onto a heavy, shoot chaff infront of you it'll pop the guys head and go straight into the big guy.

>>527610868
>reddit spacing

>>527611078
They're tiny missiles they do curve but only slightly, you can still miss shriekers during their dive

I want a support weapon that's just another pistol and I can duel wield them.

>>527610675
You don't know what you ask, helldiver. John Helldiver himself couldn't survive my strongest enemies, let alone a shitter like (You). You need to play on a dif. that has weaker enemies.

>>527611295
I have had it miss trooper that were simply running.
Really wish it just shot normal bullets that aren't so slow.

why the fuck would you bring 500kg on automatons

Someone once told me the engine couldnt handle duel wielding. Like motherfucker what do you think mechs do?

>>527611316
I am not a shitter.
ARROWHEAD,
I DEMAND YOU GIVE MY YOUR HIGHEST DIFFICULTY.
I DO NOT WISH TO GRIND THROUGH EVERY DIFFICULTY TO FIGHT ON TEN.
I HAVE UNLOCKED GATLING SENTRY.
I AM READY.

>>527611485
Quikly destroying objectives while still being decent alround.

>>527611485
Nukes bot calls as hard as 120.
Puts a lot of damage into factory striders.

It's a very good all rounder, and with a 2 minute cooldown it's great for bots.

>>527611505
The only duel welding there's should be is being able to use a pistol with you're saber

>>527610907
Hard to correlate. We don't know when they were working on the Illuminate, probably ever since launch and a lot of the groundwork was probably laid down long before the 60-day patches. The gap between Truth Enforcers and Urban Legends (which released during Omens of Tyrrany) was barely over a month, whereas the gap between the Killzone warbond and Servants of Freedom was roughly two months (probably around the time they were in the middle of designing megacities and the new Illuminate units, on top of Predator Strain, Gloom bugs and Incineration Corps). The gap between Borderline Justice and Masters of Ceremony (when the Illuminate invasion took place) was also about two months.

The gap between Masters of Ceremony and Force of Law felt like an anomaly more than anything. And honestly, I'm fine with warbonds taking longer to make since that gives me more time to just play the game normally and passively collect SC without having to farm.

>>527610340
D8. It has no unique rewards to incentivize people to play there, but is the start of seeing the higher tier enemies like the armored chicken and alpha commanders.

>>527611485
why wouldn't you?

Do the difficulties even noticibly get harder/easier or is it just the modifiers really?

527611254
Who are you replying to?

any lobby?

What's the verdict?
(Vs. bugs)

>>527610981
bullet sponges aren't difficult, they're just not fun to fight and unsatisfying to kill

>>527609985
it'll be a heavy pen marksman rifle and be shunned by /hdgeddit/

>>527611920
it needs a lot of baby sitting but it's good with setup.
On bugs I'd actually say it performs the worse though due to chargers just rushing it down.

>>527611768
my loadout is too full of sentries and bombardments

>>527611920
I like the MG and gatling way more for close quarter sentryshitterdom, better damage and can engage enemies farther away once everything close by stops moving

>>527612086
You didn't beat the game.

>>527611920
Dogshit all big things will get close and fuck it up faster than a gatling or MG would have just killed it.

>>527611920
>instantly gets ran over by a charger
you have to babysit it to prevent it from dying instantly, but the damage it puts out it high. So youre really picking stun grenades or a 2nd strategem to make it useful, and even then it has a limited range. I'd rather put down an out of the way autocannon or throw down a gas minefield or something.

>>527611920
needed to fire in a long range arc like these ones

>>527609852
>500kg
reddit bomb
>naplam barrage
"get out of bug breach free" card or drop it on extract and kill everyone award
>gatling/machine sentry
i don't feel like playing the video game lol

>>527610562
>her
You lost me.

>>527612410
Do we really need another sentry for maniacs to bring?

i only like the 500kg because i can use it to close all the bug holes without wasting all my grenades

>>527612410
>biblically accurate napalm
Too kino for swiggers.

>>527611920
>commander attacks it then dies
>corpse gets stuck on top of it
>sentry proceeds to kill itself
Just bring the mg

>>527609629
>>527609941
That harvester is going to hit that explosive barrel and trigger a ragdoll chain that kills them all.

God i love Eagle-1

>>527612578
>kills four scavengers
>flame tile clips underneath the sentry and ACKs itself with its own fire
>total lifespan: 10 seconds, that'll be 2:30 plus tip
My experience with the flame turret.

>>527611920
you babysit it with arc thrower or de escalator on a breach and then quietly seethe at any bile titan

>perfect storm for the flame sentry to shine in D10
>14 kills then dies

>>527611920
too little range to justify gatling sentry cooldown, if they make flamethrowers stagger or make enemies run a way i could see it being more useful

>>527609852
500kg, orbital gatling, and gatling turret are all good. Although normally MG turret is better value. Napalm barrage is mid.

it's good if you have the right playstyle for i-
>NOOOOOOOOOO IT SUCKS IT SUCKS ITS A POOPOO STINK GUN I NEEDED MY 7TH VARIANT OF POCKET STALWART GIBE 120RND DRUM MAG GIBE 300% DAMAGE

>>527613092
>wanting a gun that does more than mildly inconvenience the enemy is bad
lmao

>>527613092
I haven't actually tried it yet because I'm trying to finish maxing out Lib Pen first.

>>527613092
It just needs more bullets (or an extended mag attachment) and its perfect

>>527610562
LOOKS LIKE AI

>>527613092
>ergo grip
for what reason? the thing already has good handling

>>527613092
It's a great gun that feels great.
Anyone complaining is unironically skill issue'd

>>527613092
It should stun longer than, like, two seconds.

So does anyone have a clue what the performance of the De-Escalator is actually supposed to be and what it's supposed to do? I just want a backpackless, reloadable AT weapon, and this thing feels half like it fills that niche by popping BTs if you hit them in the face, but then you can empty multiple mags into a Charger's face and it'll shrug it off without even having the decency to get stunned for longer then a second. The danger close range also feels super inconsistent which makes popping butts after doing the Charger rodeo unsafe.

>>527611485
It has good uptime for the size of its boom, it acts as an answer to armored units and turrets, you can destroy detector towers with it, and you can destroy a fabricator but that's a bit overkill.

Personally I think strafing run is the better choice, but 500kg is acceptable for bots.

>>527613224
>Lib Pen
Saar, your Adjewdicator???

>>527613260
This. How are people this stupid.

>>527613356
550 damage 50 damage direct

>>527613092
I don't see why people who don't like it don't just use the lib pen

>>527613267
Looks cool

>>527613092
good on bugs, mid on bots
haven't tried it on squids

>>527613267
Its worse than that
>angled grip for ergo at the cost of recoil
>comensator for better recoil at the cost of some ergo
>mfw they cancel eachother out.

>>527611920
It's basically terrible.
>MG is overall best value per cooldown cycle
>Gatling wrecks everything smaller than a charger but runs out of ammo fast
>AC and rocket turrets wreck things, but you need to baby sit them far away from where the bugs are spawning
>Tesla tower does the "drop it onto a bug breach and watch the sparks fly" job that flamer turret wants to do, but better.

>>527613260
>>527613430
We have footage of the schizo duel blade guys and the illusionist I think?

>>527613356
The actual performance is supposed to be:
>GL with arc grenades that have no demolition force
>GL that reloads slower than the GL but has slightly more ammo
>for light/medium enemies chaff
Currently it's bugged and deals 10 times its damage on each shot because of the desync damage bug that has existed since launch.
Might get buffed, but it was never meant to kill BTs and Chargers so fast and it's supposed to take like 3-4 shots to kill a single alpha commander.

>>527613396
Already maxed out, same with everything else. Lib Pen is the last one before Pacifier.

>>527613092
The stun effect needs to be longer if they're going to make the damage tax for it so egregious. The Halt stun rounds stun for a long enough to round reload the bitch, while the Pacifier doesn't even give you enough time to spray 3 stalkers and reload.

>>527613491
fair enough

>>527613578
>w-w-we h-have video
>ai can't make video
Dumb troon.

>>527613396
Not him, but I want to max out the lib pen to see if I like it vs squids as something that doesn't overkill voteless so much but can still defeat overseer armor. Overall it's been feeling on the lackluster side. The drum mag might be the only silver lining, but I've only got it to level 21 and these last few levels have ridiculous swede exponential increases to XP demand.

I've decided that I'm also going to level up the scythe during the next squid MO, and I suspect that it will be more enjoyable than the libPen.

>>527613671
>>527613430
>>527613260
>discord shitters so mad they're trying to gaslight people into thinking the leaks are AI

>>527613765
Drum mag makes it feel insane.

>>527613585
Well, I guess I'll enjoy it until they fix the thing and then never touch it because why the fuck would I bring a support weapon that deals less damage then my primary, if that 10x damage number is correct, and can't even close bug holes.

>Illuminates are turning humans into them like an Illithid does.
>Except, as a left over sliver of their former humanity, you occasionally find Illuminate made forklifts in their bases.
That would be funny.

Hey @Grok, leak some new helldivers 2 updates

>>527613671
the appearances of everyone aren't constantly changing in the video, and it doesn't look like a horrible dream where things just morph spontaneously

it's also not focused on a single speaker filming themselves as they stand still or walk down a hallway, it's just regular helldivers 2 gameplay throughout

>>527613820
>"leaks" from discord
>call people calling you a troon for posting your fake leaks discord
YWNBAW

>>527613820
Seriously, what the actual fuck is with these people?

>>527613937
Not him, he's cunningly brutal, you want Mork, he's brutally cunning.

>>527613935
New illuminate heavy is a voteless on a forklift.
K I N O

>>527614032
The schizos are gonna filter so many redditors

>>527614032
The video was confirmed as fake which is why it's deleted from leak discords.

>>527614032
A few of these niggas rather than endless fleshgoylems and voteless and they might have taken super earth

Y'all doomniggas are gonna be reeeeal quiet soon KEK

>>527614032
I just noticed the hooded squid does a combat role out of the crater wtf thats so cool

>>527614032
Why does it look so weird.
This has to be fake.

>>527611920
Put it on elevation and its serviceable otherwise just bring the Tesla for a close range sentry.
Or don't if you just like flame turrets, I keep bringing it despite its many flaws.

>>527614449
Hope xisters, not like this.

>>527614024
>troon
>ywnbaw

yep discord raid detected.
Isn't it like ironshitter or something that lost the leaks.

If you want to call it fake and be believed, you must sign all your posts with what's below my post. Otherwise, I know you're either a discord tranny or corporate shill trying to suppress new content. BTW, you can't get the leaks off tiktok either ;)
-NiggerNiggerNigger

i bring liberator concussive and stim pistol so i can save my friends from predator stalkers

>>527613885
Well, I'll keep working towards it. But I'm feeling like having the primary be geared towards voteless+overseers might not be the right call. That's why I'm looking at the scythe. I've seen too many teams shitting their pants by "not-my-problem"ing fleshmobs. It doesn't take too many people posing for selfies with the watchers for there to be too many fleshmobs running about. While definitely a best a plan-C option, I suspect that the scythe can just repeatedly ignite fleshmobs and let the burn dot do most of the work. Again, not an optimal way to kill them quickly but it should be more efficient than wasting an AR magazine futilely into those HP sponges.

>Stun Dog
>Shock GL
>Flamer primary
>What status would you like to apply?
Yes.

>reprimand, nadepistol, gas
>rr,gatling,gas,orbital gatling
yuuup, bugdiving time

>>527614550
>reddit spacing

>>527614559
This
-NiggerNiggerNigger

>>527614592
God bless you anon.

>>527614405
>Why does it look so weird.
Because it was made by Arrowhead's A team before launch.
>This has to be fake.
You're too used to B team slop. Quality content is terrifying to you because it is so alien.

>>527614617
>"Whats basic sentence structuring???"

>>527611920
Just terrible. This thing is Teslas retarded brother. Needs its HP buffed and cooldown decreased.
t. Tesla enjoyer.

>>527614617
Cuck

>>527590764
*calls in reinforcements from across the map for no fucking reason*

>>527614602
kill and kick all shock dog niggies

>>527614592
Why not use the pummeler?

>>527610326
Sorry anon, she's mine.

>>527614032
>we want the predator strain audience

god bless them. This is great

Holy FUCK
Ever since they "FIXED" the eruptor animation cancel, every single fucking weapon has had FUCKED up buffer times post-reload animation that if you interrupt, completely negates your reload. I can't count the number of times I've died because I've had to re-re-re-rechamber a round or reattach a new canister to the torcher for the 5th time before it registers. Absolutely bullshit this stuff isn't fixed, it came out at the same time as the fucking stratagem bug during the Super Earth event. Pic related, just lost a mission due to it. If the guns reloaded, I would've been able to carry these tards but nope, one mistake once meant my death on zero reinforces lost us the match even though 3 others were alive. My second fucking death.

>>527614731
watching tesla towers explode terminids is cathartic

>>527614858
Lower the difficulty.

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240989482283/7656119910
d10 bugs or bots

527614873
>Unironically like Predditor strain
The only reason the strain is "hard" is because it spams the same 2 units.

>>527614894
bro you got kill mogged...

>>527614559
It's fake, and even if it isn't that french faggot irontr00n needs be raped by a pack of feral niggers from paris.
-NiggerNiggerNigger

>>527614708
>b-b-but muh paragraphs!
The age-old cry of the exposed r*dditor. You have to go back.

>>527614894
>FUCKED up buffer times post-reload animation that if you interrupt, completely negates your reload.
What's even better is when it randomly consumes another magazine on top of that. I love disappearing mags.

>>527614863
GIVE ME PASTEBIN/PROMPTS RIGHT NOW

>>527614938
3/4

>>527614995
Happens when they stand around fighting between obj all game

>>527614894
Let me guess, bugdivers?
>Leansissy medic that does nothing but die
>Heavy armor retard on the faction where mobility = survivability
>Stays and fights pointless breaches

>>527615008
Youre worse than an ESL. Youre an EFL and you dont even know basic sentence structuring

>You have to go back.
You first, nigga.

>>527614938
I want to unload my backed up cum into Ms. Garahau's sperm bank mouth

>>527614938
>failed
full?

After watching this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3KhScBe89M
Helldivers 2 had such a massive glow up.

>>527615137
>thrust vectoring owns the sky
kino

>>527614938
full

>>527614592
dude just use halt

>>527615137
>youre
>not you're
Post hands and electrical outlet, you r*dditoid favela monkey.

>>527615350
Imagine taking this long to respond and that was the best you got
Holy shit thats embarrassing. Why did you even respond?

>quickplay into d10 predditor strain
>drop into a 0 reinforcement match
>get instantly killed by eagle storm as soon as I come out of the hellpod
okay then

>>527613935
Heavy, north, 50 meters!

>>527614863
Actually she belongs to squids after she was volunteered for a joint raid on Illuminate territory with Helghan forces which failed horribly.

post some /hdg/ classic webms
I'll start

>>527615572
You had 12 Swedish business days to course correct.

>>527615421
>no attempt at rebuttal
I accept your concession. You have to go back, brownie.

>throw a tesla tower down
>throw a smoke grenade at my feet
>hulk looks at me inside the smoke, and immediately turns around goes for the tesla tower

holy shit. I thought smoke was just broken, it really works.
Maybe because I was host

Exosuit 3
>right AT emplacement cannon
>left heavy flamer = 2x support flamer + 5~10m range

Exosuit 4
>right heavy laser cannon = 2.5x laser cannon + AT1 AP
>left arc claw = equivalent to 3x arc thrower effect per swing (split electric and physical damage), ~1.5s per punch / backhand

Exosuit 5
>automated top turret equivalent to guard dog but no reloading required (can be destroyed)
>left + right Spear launcher, 10 shots each

Exosuit 6
>left autoloading railgun = same as personal railgun, 2x charge speed, no explosion risk, can hold max charge forever
>right pulse laser = 1.5x Sickle damage, 3x cooling rate

Exosuit 7
>left plasma ball launcher = 3x plasma Punisher damage 2x radius
>right automatic plasma gun = 3x Scorcher, projectiles are slower than handheld versions (about as slow as flying Overseer guns)

>>527615572
Hey, that's literally me!

>Deploys Eagle AIRSTRIKES
>look inside
>its Eagle strafing run
Is there nothing swiggers can't fuck up?

>>527616157
Stuff like this just makes me want to be able to mix and match my own custom mech loadouts.

>>527615817
>the queen said it's our time in the terminal

>>527616157
I want heavy mechs.

>>527616157
>no stratagem launcher for making call-ins
>no retractable grabby arm for snatching up samples
Eww. No thanks.

>>527609852
What am I supposed to be getting mad at here? These are all solid stratagems, retard-kun.

>>527616597
That should be a universal upgrade not a variant feature, Mr Penn.

>>527613267
vertical grip looks wonky and recoil is not super relevant to me

>>527616916
>un inspector plays at 40 fps
Honestly explains why he's such a faggot.

>>527616446
That's just a Touro
>tfw no planet named Novo Solo

>>527617197
G R E A T L E A D E R
I S
D E A D

C Y B E R S T A N M U S T F A L L

W E L C O M E
H E L L D I V E R

>>527617128
he's been doing better lately be nise. He didn't even teamkill me first and throw a fit last time we played. He's a gud boi who dindu nuffin

>>527613538
They're meant to cancel each other's weaknesses. AFG + compensator is more ergo in exchange for wide horizontal recoil pattern, VFG + muzzle brake is less ergo but laser beam pattern.

>>527616858
You know what else should be universal? FPV. These mechs were not made for over-the-shoulder view, they take up a third of the fucking screen.

>>527615817
do enemies intentionally do this looney toons shit

>>527613092
If they just have it 75 damage and lowered the rate of fire by 50 or so than it'd be a decent weapon

>>527617652
Some of them do. Hunters specifically like to stare at you for a while when not in combat mode. They're the game's comedic relief.

>>527617709
lol nigger that's just better than stock liberator with AP3 an stun

>>527616446
Sheesh seems like they really slimed down most of the vehicles

>>527617420
He doesn't even play anymore, haven't seen him in a long time.

>predator hunter 50m away is stuck doing his alert thing on repeat
SSSSSSHUTT UUUUUUUP

How's the new hellpod stun booster? i haven't gotten it yet

>>527617965
Like all hellpod landing boosters they are a troll pick and you will very likely get kicked if anyone notices you bringing it along.

I'm going to take motivational shocks whenever I see a teammate take the pacifier or urchin from now on.

>>527617965
>a booster that only has an effect on enemies in proximity to a landed hellpod
you tell me
the amount of recycled fucking content in these warbonds is getting out of hand

>>527617827
bruh I saw him two days ago lmao

>>527617965
Poop. Unless you do turret maxing squad.
Then you pair it with firebomb pods. Now you can drop turrets middle of enemies and it will be just fine.

>grenades that explode are still universally hot garbage compared to all the other choices.

When are they buffing HE grenade to be equivallent to a precision strike. If gas grenade can be as strong as an orbital, why can't any other grenade.

Name a better support weapon than the Autocannon

>>527617965
Funny, but only if you spam low cool down greens like mines, flamethrower turrets, machine gun turrets, and tesla.

The stun AOE is a bit wishy washy, but it's got some insane knock back. it's also really nice if you want to land ontop of your gear and grab your shit instantly.

>>527618581
Why gas can blow spawners is anyone's guess
>>527618643
StA-x3

>>527616362
Yeah. Limit is weight. You can mix and match armour. Ammo quantities. Weapons and utility.

>>527618643
the new stun grenade launcher. It's basically autocannon without the backpack.

I just wish rocket pods would work properly. Especially against bugs. Nothing is worse then watching them hit bile titan and it walks on.

>>527618683
>StA-x3
Lock on shit that can't deal with heavies and has way too little ammo to kill all the devs
The only thing its better at is killing gunship from extrem range

>>527618683
>throw gas grenade (Demo 10)
>down terminussy (Demo >20 req.)
>it breaks anyway
I thought I understood swigger code.

>>527618907
they do.
Like really fucking well actually, if you notice they're bleeding which means they're typically near death. Either they'll expose the insides or shoot the head enough that you can just tap it with a support weapon for a second or two and it'll die instantly.

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240989894689/76561198066017633 D10 ANY

>>527618985
probably just a trigger flag that tells the hole to kersplodes if a grenade is inside it. Like I bet if you throw a grenade hard enough and have it bounce out. It'll still blow up the fab

>>527618985
Wait a minute, im retarded.
>patch 1.002.001
>Demolition strength increased from 10 to 30

>>527609852
>500kg
Perfect for destroying bug nests, something that I will always bring against bugs
>Orbital napalm
Most busted stratagem, hate how it denies you access to points, prefer orbital gas
>gatling sentry
Solid pick for crowd countrol and as a decoy. Prefer the mg sentry over it for lower cooldown

>>527619016
full

>>527619125
Well no, fabricators only explode after the grenade does. It's physically impossible but if a grenade did somehow bounce out before exploding it wouldn't go along with it.

Is the new grenade any good?

Are they going to fucking fix the FRV someday ? The random flips over tiny rocks are really frustrating

>>527619453
Bohemia Interactive took like 25 years to fix that and they never truly did.

>>527619242
>difficulty is visible
>ricochet on faceshot
holy shit this clip is old as FUCK and i don't really miss it, most weapons were straight up useless back then

>>527619450
Besides locking down medium heavies (Hulks, Chargers, Fleshmobs), it doesn't really do anything better than regular old stun grenades. It'd be a different story if you could use it to stun FacStriders, BTs, and Harvesters, but those are apparently impossible to stun.

>>527614938
GG

>>527619450
It pulses for like 5 seconds stunning anything nearby which is nice, isn't exactly better than the old stun nade though

>>527619540
After that clip the devs made the difficulty display optional.

>>527619389
Yeah, I'm saying I bet you could throw the grenade in the fabricator, and if it bounced out and then exploded it'd still cause the fabricator to blow up. Even if it did so outside.

>>527619706
just noticed they lost ayy lmaoooooooo to be fair i dont really know how i put up with old balancing playing d9 because the game was extremely unbalanced

>>527609629
I love squiggers!

>>527619450
It's versatile.
It'll lock down lite heavies, letting you kill them with shit like flamethrower easilly.
It also can be thrown on the ground like shock mines that'll stun anything nearby. Super useful around corners that enemies tend to take the the shortest path around.
It's not the best at chaff CC or Heavy stunning. But it handles both with good play.

Effectively highest skill ceiling grenade in the game atm.

>>527614938
ggz frens

>>527619242
btw the devs play and balance the game around 8-10.
Dont' know if it's uncommon knowledge, but I was told they only play on low difficulty.

>>527619450
I like regular stuns more. They should just let this thing stun heavies.

>>527619242
These are devs? Why use AC on his armor and not belly? Are these actually hamsters playing the game?

>>527619994
I remember watching the EoF stream, where they played d6 against bots, made it out with zero reinforcements and half the team dead.
They also didn't know basic shit like diving to put out fires and instead they just stimmed through the damage or died.

>>527619242
"AUUUuUUUGH LAST STAAAAND"
"KERSPLAT"
"hahaha that was funny"

>/hdg/
>UGH... IS THIS REALLY HOW THEY INTEND US TO PLAY?

>>527619007
>can use rocket pods to not kill anything
>can use 500kg to kill literally everything
Hrmmm which to choose

>>527613092
every single time one of you fags defend some controversial crap gun it turns out to be absolute dogshit
maybe instead of pulling out a ten point paragraph coping about how its not a complete waste of your money if you're in an XYZ situation, you actually just use a gun that just works
I'm not falling for it again, fuck off

>playing on alta city earlier
>randoms join and talk in text chat a lot
>say I'm looking forward to bots getting cities
>one guy is level 26 and says he hasn't touched bots yet
>other guy asks "really?" like I just said a slur or something
>asks why I play bots so much
I forgot I was in hostile bugdiver territory

>>527620169
>can kill 4 things with rocket pods
or
>can kill 2 things with 500 (if it actually decides to kill them in one rocket)

hmmm indeed.

I'm from the future, prepare your anus for squid tentacles if you enjoy using anything other than snipers and sentries

>>527620259
You'd have point if the rockets were reliable at hitting anything

>>527620259
What magical fairytale land do you live in?

>>527620360
Have you tried aiming?
I agree they don't auto track as well as they could, but they prioritize shit close to the beacon pretty well. They'll always bit bile titans, and they work well when it's extra call in time

>>527619878
We could have had a happy future with cute alien squidfriends...

>>527619994
Dif6, actually.

>>527620430
HMG + rocket pods.
Throw at a bile titan.
Jump back prone
Click on head.
Dies in like 10 rounds.

I've done this shit so many times it's basically second nature. It drops their health to this like one tick health pool extremely reliably.

>>527620475
I tried pods once, and it took them four tries to hit a hulk

>>527619983
lmfao I thought you were just stuck half in a wall, was going to come melee you out but nope, straight up underworld

>>527620259
I like rockets but you almost never are killing 4 heavies per rearm, but neither is 500kg.

>>527616142
No, it's because the tesla tower has a much higher aggro than a player. Enemies will straight up stop attacking you just to go and kill that tesla tower even without smoke.

lobby doko

>>527620702
Yeah they don't do it alone, you pair it with a support weapon to finish them off.

>>527620612
How?
They hit every time for me unless i throw it to far away where it doesn't lock on.

>city maps can give you around 6 bunkers
>most randoms dont open them
>low level chink opens them with me
>140 SC
I love chinese now

Why are planets on the bug front such random resistance values all of a sudden?
>veld .56%
>achird .25%
>darius .36%
>phact bay .91%

>>527620785
Could this be a case of solo versus team swiggercode?

Why not just EAT the heavies though?
>>527620905
Very carefully calibrated for optimal balance along the mega cities.

>>527620913
I am always in team and have 100% hit rate.
Maybe my eagle is just better though.

>>527620986
>Why not just EAT the heavies though?
strict diet sorry

>>527620905
Probably preparing the next MO to be a minor one. Illuminate will likely be getting an update or at least their front will be growing greatly per all those planets alarmed. I imagine that after this current bug MO, they're just going to set up the game to run kind of automated-like and let people actually take planets at random while also encouraging the playerbase to split themselves across the factions again while they holiday. It's kinda gay only seeing the MO planets get ANY progress at all.

>>527620169
>500kg, high-damage tank killing, requires precise timing and positioning to score a hit
>rocket pods, just throw in the general direction to get moderate damage, twice the available uses and no risk of teamkills
It wont 1-shot the heaviest units, but you can finish them off easily with heavy pen or the shittier AT weapons

>>527620986
I thought it was cause of the mega cities too but some of the planets I mentioned no mega city on them currently. Also , Peacock and trandor in the sten sector have 1.54% and 1.05% resistance respectively for no reason lol

>>527620986
>Why not just EAT the heavies though
Less janky than swapping, more efficient when need be, and it feels really satisfying killing heavies with the HMG.

>>527620779
Damn, i forgot you can do that, my eagle smoke can kill 4 enemies per rearm aswell then.

>>527621253
I mean ... Technically it can?
But for real though no use wasting time arguing. It's fun and it feels pretty satisfying. Might actually go do that later tonight some more. Thenks c:

>>527620986
>Why not just EAT the heavies though?
On bots, this is a decent solution. On bugs, waiting for the delivery pod to drop or running in god only knows which direction to get to the previous pod is not realistic with sixty hunters trying to jump up my ass.
Rocket pods are for one-shotting tanks and cannon turrets. Hulks and chargers are too small to reliably hit. For squids, forget about it.

>devs never fixed the killing potential of eagle smoke for this long... Because litterally no one ever uses smoke

Kinda funny desu

>>527621572
>killing potential
It is a giant metal object landing directly on top of your head, very fast.

Is it possible for you swiggers to STOP IT WITH THE FUCKING EAGLE STORM. I have died more times to the motherfucking air 'support' than I have to the terminiggers on this jungle shithole. If your diversity jeets cant get them to hold fire around players, then just make Eagle Strafe a free gem and fuck off. Do you even playtest your own shit?

Man this warbond has some of the most nigger dog shit gear in it (relatively), but everything feels so fresh and unique im having so much fun putting up with the downsides.

It reminds me of when I first got my hands on the torcher and wanted it to be better since the flame nerfs. But this stuff is actually semi viable.

Everything about this warbond speaks to me, and I'm so happy getting to use this trash.

>>527622094
>Do you even playtest your own shit? Do you even playtest your own shit?

>>527622094
Stop playing on the DSS planet.

>>527622094
skill issue

>>527622094
>he's 2new to remember the original orbital bombardment

So when are we getting a hard mode?

>>527622804
It's difficulty 4 you sub-4 newfren. What a cutie patootie you are.

>>527622094
don't be on the same position as the enemy
>b-but I want to do close quarter mano a mano shit
go play dark souls

>>527622804
Right here, big guy.

>>527622865
I think you're confused. We need something above D10.

>>527622094
>just make Eagle Strafe a free gem
No. I'd be even funnier if the DSS 380mm barrage was also be called in automatically.

>2 guys with the xbox and eruptor respectively
>they keep getting raped by preds the second they're by themselves
jesus christ use another weapon for once

>>527623089
>>527622865
Ahhh, now I see the confusion. I mean when are getting an actual hard mode. Not something that is just named "hard".

>>527622804
Right here, Big Guy.

>>527623153
Quit being toxic, chud. This game is for everyone. Every weapon should be usable for literally every situation. That's called good game design.

>>527622540
That shit was funny.
I mean total meme but funny as fuck dodging it. I remember when they gave us emergency reinforcements and shields.
If they made it a bit less bullshit id love playing on that mission type.

>>527623126
This but its the Traitor Artillery.

>>527623251
Why is that mode called "hard" when it isn't hard?

>>527623126
If they weren't lazy and actually coded it properly it'd been pretty okay.

>>527623445
If you want a challenge, lower the difficulty. ;)

>>527623547
I would prefer to up the difficulty if possible. I hope AH hasn't completely forgotten about their hardcore fans.

>>527623215
Difficulty? In Helldivers 2? Sorry, I think you have the wrong general. In all seriousness the game has hit its easiest point with the recent change to spawner AI.
At launch though the game was much harder. It was also much, much more tedious and frankly I don't think the devs can ever hit the sweet spot of challenge and fun.
They get their criticism from lowsodiumdivers for God's sake. They listen to dadgamers and the reddit crowd now, which is just barely above the era of Alexus and the nerftranny.

Increase the difficulty.

>>527623626
At this point I would take Alexus's HD2 over redditor HD2. I mean for fucks sake, stalkers don't even leave their nest to attack now. Is that what this general prefers?

>>527623734
Alexus tried to save us and prevent the redditization of the community but we rejected him

>>527623734
Im level 30. Seasoned Helldiver. I have all the stragems money can buy. I deserve an "I win" button.

>>527623608
The game wasn't made for you, sweaty. Deal with it.

>>527623734
They do. Like the moment you shoot your gun they will leave their nests instantly.
Of all the shit to nitpick this is the weirdest desu.

>>527609629
>commandochud being useless with a bolt action while there's a tripod without shields
every time

>>527624082
If only they let him out of the surstromming basement... He could lead HD2 to eos...

>>527624347
>Pred strain exists

Man, I hated them at first but they're kinda the only thing that actually wakes me up in this game.

>>527624082
You're right. It was literally made for redditors.

>>527624347
>he's not playing preds

>>527624201
That has not been my experience. Gun shots don't seem to attract them like before. Their old aggression that kicked in as soon as you were nearby made a lot more sense imo.

>>527624347
>entire bot faction is countered by being able to aim at heads

You don't need stagger or stun to fight predator bugs if you have the slightest bit of situational awareness and aim.

>>527624607
Med pen xisters, our response?

>>527624587
Weird. Well y'know Sweden coding. Could be just us both having different experiences based on player count

>>527624607
this requires something a bit more than basic brain function vs bugs

>>527624228
no, its actually empty and he didn't drop it because of swedish coding

automatons need a fleshmob type enemy badly

What's going on here?

>stalkers turned from a "oh shidd sdallgers :-DDDD" constant threat that forced you to go find the nest and eradicate them, to "oh huh, stalkers" objective with one patch
mmm yesss let me just change the stealth skirmish unit to a "wait there's stalkers here?" unit

>>527624908
Redditors and /hdg/ will not let that happen under any circumstance. Fleshmobs barely got away with it as is. Although fleshmobs will probably get nerfed too now that I think about it.

>>527623734
Honestly, when the game got harder linearly it got more tedious exponentially. I still remember the days 5 bile titans and 10 chargers popping up to do railgun ammo checks every breach.
For bots you replaced railgun with autocannon and one less stratagem.
At a fundamental level, balancing the difficulty to be an appropriate challenge is probably fucked because everybody spawns with 4 invincibility potions if players aren't killed outright that can be replenished with resupplies.

So players are simultaneously incredibly vulnerable and invincible on demand outside of one-shots and all the game can really do to increase difficulty is simply spam more enemies at you to get you to slip up, try to put you in more snafu situations, or tweak enemies to kill you faster. And none of this will feel good to the average gamer because you either die before you can react or you stim and run to cover.

Unfortunately, because of the Alexus era, Sven and Shams will never ever rebalance our health and stim system.

>>527624967
Squids are about to get their own permanent front.

>>527624908
>clearly Terminator inspired faction
>no enemy even close to being as resilient as a t-800

>>527624967
"anti-democratic activity" that got posted in a dispatch like 3 days ago that you cant look up right now because its gone
the swigger does not want you to know anything, because they dont know anything about their game either

>>527624739
>stalker comes at you
>*click click click*
your response? (would have gotten a reload off with stagger/cc)

>>527625005
Flesh pounds just feel like they need a rework in general. They kinda just exist to gas check the team.

>>527624985
They still pop up and assault you pretty far from their Lair, it's just not as oppressive as it used to be where you were guaranteed to lose a reinforcement if you got gear checked, and they could stack up and spawn like an even dozen of them on the map if you didn't immediately drop everything to blow up the Lair.

Plus, it's not like Stalker Lairs didn't regularly glitch out and not spawn anything at all the entire match, just acting as docile as an Illegal Broadcast Tower waiting for you to find it and put a grenade in the right place.

>>527619016
I crashed and whoever got the lobby has it set to private.
Geeges anyway.

>>527625010
I don't give a fuck how many enemies, one shots, bullet sponges, etc, there are. The highest hard modes are supposed to be chaotic and hopeless. As long as the bullshit modes are optional then no one should give a fuck.
>But muh ex and samples!
Give optional, super hard modes the same payout as D10 then. Modes that are made explicitly for the sweaty hardcore players.

>>527625145
DUDE-
The other day a bot got killed by a buddy of mine, and for some odd reason it looked like it got back up like a terminator.
Scared the shit outta me, and I mag dumped It. If bots did something like that, like they just come back that'd be cool.

>>527625301
The only change they need is for popping the head to do something like 3% of their health.

>>527625381
I do wish difficulty 10 was the nightmare hard difficulty.
If I don't need to bother thinking or playing as a team on the hardest difficulty, then the game is simply too easy.

Reminder for the newfags that still need to collect samples

Spore Towers have samples pretty much growing right on top of them, so go there and pick some rares up.
Run a lap around the stem, and you got it all.

Shrieker Nests seem to not have any samples from my own tests.

>>527625268
Dive backwards and switch to sidearm/support or make sure I don't end up in that situation in the first place? Not hard.

>>527624739
>libcarbine
>bushwacker
>frontier justice set optional

no cc no problem

>>527625493
Also honest to God, just ask people to pick up samples. It's not something people give a darn about anymore, but they will if you ask .

>>527625268
>has to resort to imaginary fantasy scenarios in place of a counter-argument
Concession accepted.

>>527625381
>Give optional, super hard modes the same payout as D10 then. Modes that are made explicitly for the sweaty hardcore players.
Finally, someone with their head screwed on right. As long as gigadifficulties continue to increase rewards, they'll continue to attract people not mentally prepared for them, who will then cry until said difficulties get netured.

>>527624908
Goes against the theme and design of the faction. Bots are the enemies that are protected by heavy armor but susceptible to easy destruction if you find and target the weak point. Illuminate are the faction that are designed to shrug off high-damage single-target projectiles with ablative outer armor that doesn't transfer any damage to their main HP pool.

>>527625145
The only reason a T-800 is ever as resilient as you see in the movies is because they're often pitted against anywhere from one to four human beings with civilian-style small arms. Any time you bring actual military firepower to bear, they would crumple like a wet paper bag.

>>527625470
Id like if leg shots actually slowed them. Like make em relentless if you blow their legs out, but make them easier to deal with. That'd fix them immediately for me. Specially with heavy armor.

>>527625382
God the the idea of smaller heavy automaton unit that just won't fucking die is so kino

>>527625376
Ahhhh, I tried to sneak through the airspace, man! Can't make it, can't make it, the shit's stuck! Outta my way son! SHUTTLE STUCK! SHUTTLE STUCK! Please! I beg you! We're dead! You're a g-genuine dick sucker!

>>527625382
when i first started playing, i had no clue what the fuck the automatons even are, i thought theyre more or less the cyborgs from HD1 but terminators
seeing a trooper or devastator still move its limbs after you killed it, made me believe they'd pull a necron and get back up. so i put a few rounds extra into them, who knows?

>>527625740
I mean yeah man, half the time I just space out on autopilot and just kill things.
The rare times I'll actually be thinking is just telling new people what to do.
I've just played this game for so long that I kinda forget to think mid mission.

>>527625381
I do miss the days of the original extract scientists on bots. I mean, they were total bullshit, but at least you knew that you were signing up for a buttfucking.
Though most people ended up going for the 3:1 stealth cheese strat so it definitely veered too far into difficulty on the tranny-shitter spectrum.

>>527619016
>>527625376
GGs, Joel doesn't want us to finish any operations that run

>>527625470
>The Fleshmob is immune to flinching via gunfire and has an extremely high stagger resistance that cannot be matched by any loadout weapon.
>Breaking a Fleshmob's legs will not slow them down or disable their charge.
What they really need to do is go back to the drawing board and start over. When your only counterplay is DpS it until it dies, you've fucked up bad. Except gas, of course, but that is literally cheating plz nerf.

>>527625382
That would actually be so fvcking kino. A small chance for non-heavies to get back up if they only took small arms damage or something.
It wouldn't even affect the balance that much.

>>527611485
contrarianism

>>527626089
Gas and stuns are kinda unreliable in me experience, if the fatty has already started its charge it will just ignore all CC, and they start charging the second they smell your eagle sweat

>>527625382
>>527625774
This used to be a bug a while back.

They need more bot enemies that force players to engage in close combat to beat them. Factory strider cannons were a good start.

>>527626089
How come they randomly stop charging from time to time when I'm hitting them with Eruptor/AC flak?

>>527626268
we need exactly the opposite, enemies that fuck you up for failing to keep them at a distance

>>527626089
Yeah that's basically the gist of the problem with them.

>>527626270
breaking their heads will make them angry and will make them start charging at you

>>527626270
They're not actually immune to stun/stagger unless you pop a head, then they go into an autistic rage.

Total Bug Death

>>527625470
Each head is worth about 7% of their health, you idiot. Why would want to make them even harder to kill.

>>527626247
Actually wrong webm but still relevant.

>>527626415
They are immune to stun.

>>527626437
are bile titans the biggest jobbers in the game

>>527626353
Naw we have a dozen of those. Bots are scariest when they're right ontop of you. Bots are hard countered by distance and going prone behind cover. Factory strider is the only counter to this by flinging you outta cover towards it.

Need like a shield unit that makes a giant dome around the bots, or like a jammer bot that hides behind cover.

>>527626459
No it isn't.

>>527625740
Yes, anon. Hard modes are meant to be hard.

>>527626089
>like 10 guys inside one body (aka average workday for baskinator)
>doesnt slow down or die immediatly the moment you pop both legs
Meanwhile, chargers or factory striders
>lose even one leg
>omae wa mou shindeiru

And its not even unrealistic to think that "hey maybe I should aim at the legs, those seem like a weakspot" when you first met a fleshmob without knowing wtf it even is. Only to find out that its a bulletsponge and will remain a bulletsponge that lives inside your walls.

>>527626459
You sure? 7% basically means you could down them with one sweep of the breaker but in my experience popping a head does no or negligible damage. Shit's cosmetic.

>>527626462
Nta but nope.
If you take the halt and repeatedly apply stun they will actually stop moving. They just have an insanely high stun threshold. Hell EMS sentry can shut them down too.
Raging only lowers the stun a bunch, but if you apply more stun they stop again..

>>527626462
Urchin literally stuns them and you can stunlock them with the stunlance/flag if you avoid popping a head.

>>527626415
If that's true that's pretty interesting. Because you could theoretically toast their legs indefinitely.

>>527626743
>stunlock a mob that has 6,000 hp to death with melee
Or, OR, hear me out on this one:

>you can shoot the arms off a flesh mob and it can't attack you

... Well fuck.

>>527626656
>>527626743
Stun grenades can stop a charger dead in its tracks.
Stun grenades can't do anything to a fleshmob.
They are immune to stun.

>>527626437
To make sure we're all on the same page as some people believed those were "leaks" of multi-faction missions, they're not, it's just some guy spawning enemies with cheats.
Also, yes, just as the Swedes said, the game crashes pretty fast.

>>527626991
Dead ass.
Throw two stun grenades and it'll be stunned.

>>527626993
>some guy spawning enemies with cheats.

Why are there no videos of this? I want to see epic AI battles

>>527626991
EMS stops them and you can Halt them at very long distances. The other guy is confused about the cause, but right that it's possible to stun stationary Fleshmobs and that shooting the heads has an impact since that causes them to become aggresive. Once they start attacking it's over, since their stun resistance goes through the roof. I don't think there is anything that you can use that can stun them at that point.

>>527626993
>overseers boinking the tank

>>527627187
I don't believe a single thing you said.

>>527626993
It's pretty interesting that they fight eachother by default. Devs have stated they want multi-faction battles but it's a memory issue.
Something about storing each faction's secondaries, bases, and their possible permutations on the ram.
First they'll need to tard wrangle their code (Swedish challenge level: Impossible).

>>527627135
I just posted one.
>I want to see epic AI battles
Buy hacks then. They're like 10 dollars.

>>527627187
Urchin can stun them outta it.
Things fucking silly.

>>527627237
>Hey guys why is thing like B
>I can see why you think thing is like B but it's actually A and here's why it's A
>Mmmmmmmm no

>>527627401
It's okay anon, I believe you

>>527627294
>Urchin can stun them outta it
Proof?

>>527626993
It's surprising they fight each other at all. I thought all enemies in the game would be coded to one side for convenience.
>>527627253
Didn't swiggers also once say urban battles were impossible for similar reasons? Maybe they'll find a solution, we can only h(c)ope.

>>527626943
Their 6000hp, deadliness in melee, ability to chew through ballistic shields and to reach around them with their flailing hitboxes is an insult to all meleeGODS and I will continue killing them by giving them the ol' prostate piercer.

>>527627253
It probably could be done on PC with some compromises like smaller maps, since it only crashes if you overdo it, but I imagine on PS5 it just shits it's pants instantly, not unlike how it was back during the infinite stratagem bug.

How effective is poison diver? Over time is DPS acceptable?
I really like the look and the idea but i feel like I don't witness them doing much damage

>>527627860
ESL-kun, are you asking ChatGPT or the Automatons for a translation?

>>527626089
pummeler with drum barrel can hold them still for a little bit.

>>527627860
you should be theoretically invincible against bugs

>>527627860
It's less about damage and more about crowd control. Gas disperses enemies and makes them effectively blind. It does kill them slowly but you probably want a real weapon or flames to deal real damage.

>>527627401
>ignore your lying eyes
>just believe me bro

>>527627909
No, this is my attempt.

>>527627860
You will kill all lite chaff.
Gas is probably the most OP tool in the game right now, and it's so strong the sterilizer is pretty decent.
Build around the fact you don't kill heavies and its godly.

You can solo lvl 10 bugs with gas grenades, eats, and a supply pack.
It is very. Very. Strong.

>torcher and gas dog to pred bugs
this is fun

>>527627253
I keep forgetting we share this game with consolefags.
Revolting.

>>527627860
the CC is good, GPT-kun, but the sterilizer is garbage so you might as well bring a flamethrower as a substitute

>>527627827
As always consolefags ruining shit for PCchads

>>527627827
I'm not code-oriented at all but to my knowledge you'd only store stuff on the ram if you needed quick and consistent access to that asset. But once the map is generated and assets placed, why would it need to continue taking up that memory?

Don't the memory issues mean that at some point, they will run out of capacity to add shit to existing factions before it crashes the Cuckstation?
So that means if the game survives long enough, we WILL get a 4th faction of dinosaurs that rape your waifu.

>>527627860
>resists gas (no enemy uses)
>doesnt resist acid (what terminiggers use for everything)
Fuck.

>>527628038
Fair enough.
Gas is a great CC tool that also works on bots, believe it or not, and can destroy bug holes, bot fabricators or illuminate warpships on a direct hit, with a lower CD than the OPS.
Chaff enemies will die relatively quickly, while anything else will be confused and effectively ignore your team.
Sterilizer is ass, dont bother using it. Brap dog might be better on bugs, while using the Crisper for mobbing up enemies for absolute AoE CC.

Oh so we didn't get a lighting guard dog ?

>>527627994
Everything I've said and other anons have said are perfectly testable in-game. Fleshmobs are stunnable, it's just not easy to do.

>>527628483
We did and I will kick your ass to the curb so goddamn fucking fast if I see you select it

>>527628368
God I wish that were me

>>527628343
because the game is ran in the RAM, when the game starts it just loads stuff from the disk to be placed in the RAM just so you can interact with it. the problem is making sure that all those assets are placed neatly in the ram so that the game doesn't run like shit when interacting with data in there

>>527628654
I picked it once, and got so scared of TKing my teammates that I would send it to the backpack any time I got close to them.

>>527628343
Okay so the way a computer works is that the disk is the long-term memory and the RAM is the short-term memory.
When you launch the game it'll read from your disk and load all assets required into the RAM.
Depending on optimizations it'll unload assets that are no longer required from the RAM - so if for instance if you were to just sit on your ship - it won't have loaded enemy models (bile titan, annihilator tanks etc).
Once you drop into a game - it'll begin loading the assets from the disk into the RAM. It'll keep those assets in the RAM until you're done

There are different approaches to how aggressively or passively the RAM gets cleared - varies from game to game.

Lets say, for the sake of argument, you had a tool with the means to temporarily reduce the armor class of any enemy by one point across all body parts. Nanomachines, or something. How badly does the game's balancing go out the window?

>>527628948
How do you send it to your backpack?

>>527629120
acid rain planets are already a thing

>>527629120
The leviathan balancer

>>527629224
but what if acid rain in ur pocketto

>>527629120
give it to sterilizer and only the sterilizer and it would be fine imo

>>527629120
>due to swigger coding, your armor class also gets reduced permanently and you're easier to kill

>>527629120
I'd like it if heavies weren't more of a joke then they already are thank you

>>527629392
>we will never get visual armor degradation
>oh no haha my leandiver has been hit by an acid spitter
suffering

SEAF!

once AH adds bot mega cities yall will never see me again on the bug front

*i wish our armors had the same mechanics as enemy armor, like imagine if heavy armor could make trooper shots bounce off. could go along the lines of:
>light armor
effectively unarmored
>medium armor
same as enemy light armor
>heavy armor
Same as enemy medium armor
>200+ armor value
Same as enemy heavy armor

>>527628368
> Denise Richards
So this is what turned her to Starship Troopers.

>>527629209
With any Dog backpack you can press "5" to send it to sit on your back.
It also refuels / rearms them as well.
So if you want to be a little stealthy, dock the dog and it wont instantly light up anything it sees.

>>527629797
i never see you in my lobbies either

>WOAH I LOVE DA PRED STRAIN OMMMGG! ITS SO HARD! I LOVE HARD GAMES THAT ARE DOGSHIT AND MADE TO BE FRUSTRATING JUST LIKE DURK SLOP!!!
>WOOOAAH I LOVE DA FLAME CORPS OMGGG! IT@S SO HARD!!!

>>527627860
>gas enemy
>go around while theyre fumbling around
>actually secure the objective
>leave
I dont think gas works as a primary but its excellent for distracting and getting away from enemies. id use the gas grenades, mines and maybe the dog, I havent used that one yet. But Ill always bring a decent primary and tertiary option to actually kill important targets and self defense against stray bugs

>>527629808
I think automaton blasters are all light pen

>>527629949
sounds like a skill issue, have you tried difficulty tier 5?

>>527629856
maybe if bothered making lobbies i would join your non existent lobbies

>>527629808
Sir, have you tried going prone, hiding behind a rock, or using the ballistic shield?
>No you dont get it, I must make the game even easier because...well I just want it to be easier, ok?

>>527630053
You sound like a little bitch issue.

527629949
Poor bait

>>527630091
make that difficulty 4 :(

niggas be like my pronouns are bug/diver

>>527630159
Yeah go back there thin wristed faggot. Wipe that swede jizz off your face. Fucking loser.

>>527620259
Sorry bro, it's not early 2024 Helldivers anymore. They gutted the fuck out of Rocket Pods and refuse to buff them.

>>527629808
It can, certain bits of player models are capable of deflecting shots at extreme angles across long distances which is probably why you've never seen it happen since bot accuracy over distance was massively reduced and you don't get pew'd from ridiculous angles across the map anymore. It's most common with heavy armors that were in the game at launch.

>>527629120
As nice as it would be, I can't think of many actual situations where this would be useful. If you have to individually tag each enemy for it to suffer from reduced armor, then it would be worthless against anything more numerous than a heavy. And if it's something piddly like a Stim Pistol, then you sure as hell aren't going to be using it against anything short of Harvesters, Chargers and Hulks. You still wouldn't gain any meaningful advantage over a Charger because your weapons still do shit for durable damage, Harvesters can already be killed with focused AP3 fire to joints, and Hulks have the same general issue as Chargers (and are pretty easy to kill as it is anyway).

>>527630043
I feel like some Dev weaponry might be med pen, like the shield devs might have better pen
>>527630085
I don't got an issue with difficulty, bots are the best balanced faction by a mile, I just feel like the system of armor and penetration being asymetrical was a waste of opportunity
>>527630323
oh, kino, but I still wish it was more involved

>>527630397
I think we do have armour values though.
Mech and ballistic shield are AP3 i believe.

You guys are absolutely wrong. The Pacifier is decent; not amazing, but decent.

>>527630564
Only the main body of the mech is has an armour class of 3, which explains why friendly gatling turrets still melt you too

>>527629120
Acid grenades would be cool.

>>527630397
Devs are AP2, Striders, Factory Striders, all rockets (including Devastator Rockets) are higher.

>>527630564
last I checked, Mechs are around ap2, at least in relation to our weapons; but besides, I wanted to see the armor tiers in our actual armor, I know it won't happen, but if they ever make a thrid game, I think it would be an interesting mechanic to develop on

>empty a couple Pacifier shells into a dev to stop their fire
>switch to Talon and headshot them
finally a good use case for Gunslinger

>>527630675
There is one extremely good argument against it:
Killing is better than stunning, especially when that stun is so short and eats up your ammo.

>>527630081
not making lobbies for retards that cant even speak english properly
nope, wait for your sc farming lobbies more.

>>527630675
Not really.
It's got pretty much awfull stats when compared to other ARs.
Bad dps
Bad damage for hitting breakpoints
Bad ammo economy
And all this to get a stun effect which is really underwhelming.
If they buffed any one or 2 things of these it would be a solid gun, but as is it's a lib conc tier gun (arguably worse).

RR > AC for the sole purpose that it can easily take out factory striders from across the map.

https://helldive.live/strategem
>the flag is more popular than the shield generator or smoke strategems
further highlighting how fucking useless they are

>>527631475
apples VS oranges
also fagstriders really aren't much of a big deal, can make a strider fully irrelevant if you have an EAT and a decent medpen gun

>>527629392
I would kill for that blue alien cat pussy

>>527630085
all amount of mobility you lose from wearing heavier armor is just not worth it. I always run light or medium armor on d10. Id prefer light but I only have some of the armor traits on medium sets.

Laser cannon my beloved

Any loadout recommends for predator strain? I'm just kinda bringing a machine gun and 2 turrets to kill the brazillion bugs.

>>527632605
AC stuns and fucks them up in 2 HE shots / chance of 1 shotting with flak

>>527632605
I would say just use the emancipator, but you're liable to getting hit with an eagle strike because all the bugs chasing you

>>527632605
Gas dog and then whatever you want

>>527613092
idiot

>>527632432
New mission parameters have been updated, Helldiver.

>>527633045
It's okay, Chang Chinaman had the great idea to just kill all of us then himself to end it all

>>527632605
Liberator with a stun, uzi or shotgun for sidearm, gas or seekers grenades. Light armor from urban legends.
Auto canon, machine gun turret, anti tank chair and tesla.

>>527632189
So you need to use up a stratagem slot just for EATs? How about just take the RR instead lmao

This tesla guard dog is pure fucking TK material.

>>527616157
>Exosuit 4 has infinite ammo
>Thinks this wouldn't invalidate every other mech

dont post in my general again

>>527633553
EATs take up stratagem slot. RR takes up a stratagem slot, support weapon slot and backpack. That being said Commando is arguably better since you can miss one shot out of the four you get to kill a Strider while EAT needs both to hit.

Initiating FTL jump to... the Sissy system.
Jump complete.
Sissy coordinates locked.
Sissypods primed.
Sissydivers to sissypods
Repeat
Sissydivers to sissypods

>>527633932
But if you're taking EATs, you're still implicitly taking up multiple strategem slots unless you're coordinating with your team or relying on weapons on the map. Besides, the backpacks aren't that good anyway.

I need a team reload

>>527634280
What would I even put in my 4th stratagem slot after Jump Pack, whatever support weapon and strafing run? Might as well have a Commando to delete all and any Factory Striders I see without delay.
>Besides, the backpacks aren't that good anyway.
You do not play the game.

*Ch-Ch*
Here!

d10 bugs, might swap to bots after we're done with those
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240991781312/76561198027910192

>>527634280
>Take only EATs, carry one on your back
You now have 3 AT weapons with no reload at the start of every fight. Your grenades, primary, 3 other stratagems, and pistol can now be set up to deal with the entire rest of the faction.

>>527634454
>Thank you~

>>527634569
2/4

>>527634264
what would a planet full of sissies even look like?

>>527634886
/hdg/

>>527634569
3/4

>>527634569
tomo a cute

>>527634264
not funny

>>527634569
FVLL

>>527634264
>Sissydivers to sissypods
AMRsissy reporting in

>>527634760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79DijItQXMM

Yes... Super Earth finests can't win against little girls in ball games

This is God's punishment for my foolishness in trying out the combo without being a leandiver

>>527635254
rape correction

>>527635424
>killing by bile spewer

>>527609727
Are you retarded? You can drop the napalm and just run around the bug nest sniping the bugholes and nothing can stop you because it burns to death

>>527635047
Initiating FTL jump to... Chicago, Illinois.
Jump complete.
Fentanyl coordinates locked.
Jailpods primed.
Niggadivers to jailpods
Repeat
Niggadivers to jailpods

>>527635498
Who do you think fly the DSS Eagles?

eagle-1 spews my bile if you know what i mean... and by that i mean... my peanits.

Yes... if you get in the backseat with a leandiver, THIS can happen

>>527635227
Doesn't he die by getting crushed by an obsidian vag

>I keep trying the LibConc, thinking it'll be different this time
>still feels like I'm shooting pillows
>still kicks like a horse
>still runs out of ammo too fast

>>527634440
Jump pack is just a mobility crutch. Plan your routes and positions better.
>>527634570
I've had bot drops with 3 factory striders. I can take out all three when I'm fully stocked up with RR. What do you do with your 3 EATs? Run away from the other 2 factory striders waiting on cooldown?

>>527625268
I equip my talon and I click the stalker in the face once. If the stalker has friends, I click on their faces too.

>>527635554
SHIET WHITE BOI, MY BLINGY FOR SUPER FENT, FO' REAL
AYO SHAWTY-1, REQUESTIN SOME PURPLE DRANK ON THEM NIGGAS

>>527636548
What's this website called

>>527636817
diverdex
it's a google doc

>>527633553
Because then I would have to go in without my autocannon which I enjoy way more than any type of AT weapon.

When you get tired of fighting the bugs, remember all the citizens back home being feed nutritious E-710 laced food thanks to your brave sacrifice!

>eat oil
>boobs grow bigger somehow
ai coomertard

I'VE GOT GROUNDBREAKING INFO THAT WILL LEAD TO THE ARREST OF THE CEO OF PERMACUR

>>527637261
>He doesn't remember the vegan Whopper

D10 bots
Time to get that zaza prime
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240992404041

Super Earth Citizens owe Helldivers sex.

>>527636465
>Jump pack is just a mobility crutch. Plan your routes and positions better.
No, I don't think I will. Clean it up RRanny.

>>527637095
I do really like the autocannon, but it's kind of a hassle dealing with factory striders. I gotta shoot off the chin guns, then deal with any enemies around the factory strider and the ones it spawns. Then after that I can shoot it in the pussy 8 times to kill it. But with the RR it's 2 shots and done. AC kinda sucks too having to deal with the convoys (though there are obviously worse options). I was dealing with a convoy solo one time cause the rest of my teammates were jerking each other off I presume, and I had to chase them down the whole map shooting them in the pussy one by one, and also dealing with a mega fuck ton of devastators.

now what

>>527638116
Now you can go back to picking vegetables

>>527638116
Now you mow my lawn Pablo

>>527638116
>brazillian
HAHAHA

>>527637530
2/4

>>527638223
What if he's portuguese

>>527638337
Statistically unlikely, but possible.

>>527638337
the variants are different enough to tell

>>527637835
It's no problem, I like carrying retards like you. I see you across the map being chased by hulks, waiting on your jump pack to recharge. It's actually better to help you tards, because your deaths eat away at the reinforcement budget.

>>527637893
slut bots

>>527636714
>Shawty-1
kek

>>527637809
I refuse to believe people as pathetic as this exist, I assume it’s an LLM that’s bypassed the captcha and that helps me sleep at night

>>527637530
2/4
Lobby is public now.
Dropping.

>>527637530
>no id so probably a tourist schizo
yep, thats a non join from me

>>527639560
based
same
will not be joining

>>527638042
Just bring hellbomb is there's a convoy

>>527637530
FULL

>>527639015
More of a fan of Coretta's Kellys?

>>527610340
d10 with /hdg/

>>527640305
Unbelievably fucking hot

>>527640163
And what do you use to kill the other 4 factory striders?

I feel like the full choke on the punisher is making me fucking miss completely sometimes

>>527634569
GGs

>>527610340
I likedd playing on D3/D4 for a spell, especially if I was listening to a podcast in the background. I wondered for a while why I enjoyed it, and it's because it's the closest Helldivers 2 gets to being like my time playing Call of Pripyat.

>>527634569
GGs, also fuck eagles 2-20 they can't aim for shit

I don't remember the eagle storm being this... murderous

>>527641993
relatable

>>527642201
>>527642282
I hate DSS on bugs

>>527642282
It's because the small dudes get up in your business without you noticing, and the Eagles are even worse about trying to pad their kill count than I am. One tiny bug just off of your screen = blue on blue strafing run because the eagles have nothing set to check their fire.

What if we got to choose whether we want DSS support on our missions or not?
Participating in MO's might even be tolerable.