Thread 528767578

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>/aceg/ Emulation Guide
https://rentry.org/ybyx6
>Official /aceg/ multiplayer guide
https://rentry.org/acegMPguide
>/aceg/ livery and emblem pack
https://rentry.org/3tokr
>Ace Combat 3: A New Translation
https://pastebin.com/i6sfa9aK
>Encyclopedia Strangereal
http://www.encycstra.net/
>New /aceg/ MEGA
https://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm
>PA Twitter (JP)
https://twitter.com/PROJECT_ACES

>AC7:
Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 2030 CEST/1430 EDT, with only three rules:
>put on an /aceg/ tag in your name before you boot the game
>no EML/QAAM/SASM
>in Roca Roja, use only air-to-ground weapons in the tunnel

>Resources:
https://pastebin.com/CZWp7rzq
The modding guide and material are in the open!
https://rentry.org/ho8mm

Project Wingman:
>Store page
https://pastebin.com/NBXczRv8
>Skin/texture modding guide
https://pastebin.com/ykPhc6hn

Misc Stuff:
>/aceg/ Collage
https://i.imgur.com/wP9NNDv.png
>/aceg/ Story Archive 2.0
https://pastebin.com/1FLC4YyV
>Razgriz Patch Guy
https://www.strangerealpatches.com/
>Ostrich's Mods
https://superostrich.xyz/
>/aceg/ Assault Records
https://pastebin.com/CrfiDhxM
>ACX / ACJA Online Netplay Guide
https://pastebin.com/Pk1aJsTx

>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXY:
https://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg
>What happened to Sean Ryan (Pixy's actor) after ACZ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qat5kEtrrpk

>/aceg/ Permalink:
http://orph.link/aceg

Because it bears repeating:
>Skill and guts are required here
>Be a buddy, not a border
>All planes are beautiful dreams
>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACK

FAQ:
>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?
Haha...

>Is there any AC8 news yet?
No.

>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?
No.

Nyoom

How many cases are there of a fighter losing one engine and making it back?
Twin engine designs are often favored for supposedly having greater suitability but wonder how often it matters in practice. Engines are pretty sturdy until a certain point where damage becomes catastrophic. Seems more likely that if something takes out one engine, it is probably downing the aircraft. Especially when they are positioned so close together (which is ironically done because being close to the center reduces the performance impact of losing one). There was that time an F-15E crashed from inhaling a bird into one engine.
asn.flightsafety.org/wikibase/60314
>>528748565
Growth potential shmowth potential.

>>528779046
It's less about combat damage and more about one engine simply failing, which was not an uncommon problem in the 20th century.

>>528720257
You underestimate the 15E and overestimate the 16XL, specially during the Dual Role Fighter Competition. Despite General Dynamic's hype and very optimistic predictions, during its initial testing phase and throughout the DRF Competition the XL failed to supercruise, even when clean. With an actual combat load it could not even get close to mach 1 without afterburner. It was only in the 90s, after NASA had modified it further, and equipped it with the more powerful -129 engine that it was able to sustain Mach 1.1 with military power, at 20k feet, and clean. Keep in mind that with the same -129 engine and above 25k feet the F-15E can also achieve that low supercruise, when clean.
If you're concerned about fuel economy, the basic F-16 is actually overall superior to the XL, because the XL is optimized for transonic cruise, but that requires the engine be run at military power. Meanwhile, the basic 16's much smaller wing area produces far less induced drag, allowing it to more comfortably cruise at subsonic speeds and medium engine powers than the XL can.
Speaking of induced drag, while the XL boasted a superior instantaneous turn rate over the F-15E, its large wing area and single engine meant it quickly bleed off speed compared to both the F-15E and the basic F-16. Most pilots prefer sustained turn rate over instantaneous, thus giving preference to the F-15E over the XL.
And while they never went anywhere besides fuel tanks with extra hardpoints, the 15 already had FAST packs that could theoretically make it even more versatile, with all sorts of extra sensors added.
So the XL had worse payload, shorter range, longer takeoff, worse sustained turn rate, no fancy gadgets, and no supercruise to make up for anything. Performance wise, the F-15E was the better choice.

>>528720257
>>528787856
Two other factors that really made the F-15E the obvious choice over the XL were cost and time.
You bring up lifetime maintenance costs, but you forget to consider that the total lifetime cost of an aircraft starts before it's even built, with R&D and initial factory start-up being HUGE factors in total program cost. In both regards the F-15E was far more cost-effective over the XL. Owing to its unusual design, the XL had many issues that still needed to be worked out by the time of the DRF competition, and even as late as the NASA tests. For example, on paper it had a top speed of Mach 2.2 or so. In actual practice, it never got even close to that, because of issues with the elevons needed to trim the plane level at those speeds. Meanwhile the F-15D was already a tried and true platform, with only minor issues, so no further R&D was needed, and since the overwhelming majority of the E was already the D, you could easily convert existing production lines over for far cheaper than starting a new production line for the XL's larger fuselage and crazy new wings. This saved massive amounts of money and years of time.
There was no conspiracy to bury the XL or to favor MDD, the F-15E was simply and obviously the superior choice.

Seems /vg/'s moving fast today, did something happen?

>>528787856
>>528789276
>R&D costs
Failed to consider that, I concede. However I still maintain that if they had been willing to pay those costs, and spend some years fixing those flaws, the resulting aircraft could have been better. Sure it's not a quick and convenient solution but it seems practical and effective for interdiction/strike role, would no-doubt be appealing to export customers, and most importantly, it looks so damn cool.
I just want to live in a world where my country doesn't have to burden our birds with CFTs, they look so sad.

>>528793897
>spoiler
We have a solution to that
But these and those problems go away.

>>528802843
>but
Buy

>>528789810
>Seems /vg/'s moving fast today,
wtf you talking about bro the thread DIED

>>528793897
Well to be fair if other countries really wanted the XL they could have put up most of the funding cost for it like the Saudi's did with the F-15SA and they would have gotten XL built and delivered to them.

they really should go back to 3rd gen SOVL

or ac3

>>528779046
>>528787856
>>528789276
>>528793897
I propose a simple and elegant compromise, sure to satisfy you both.

>>528819243
Face the wall.

>>528803274
Just wait for the reactions on Monday.

>>528824203
Late Belkan War loadout aka after Cipher wiped B7R clean.

>>528825321
Can't wait, so long comfy thread hello high octane cocaine laced Cold War MIC madness thread.

>>528825654
I mean at some Kono has to show proof of his work, or people are gonna be asking what gacha he's playing.

>>528825481
We really should have had F-111 in Zero. It was in service in 95 IRL

>>528827830
Mirage III, F-8, A-7... and the list keeps going on.

>>528803274
I did say /vg/, not /aceg/

I'm tempted to post a video. 6 minutes of shooting at Rena in Memory error and I think I've hit her twice

>>528839619
Oh, I hit her as soon as I complained. Based Keith.

Remember in simulator mode you can take any plane on this mission just to see it being carried like this.

>>528789810
Gachafags gonna gachafag, what else is new.

Maybe this thread won't fall off page 10 tonight.

Sick em boys

Pull up goddamn you

>>528870328
But we got <<Incoming from Stonehenge>>...

>>528800043
So did it really happen because he couldn't land on the carrier?

>>528827362
He's gonna vaguepost about how proud they are of the history of the series and how excited they are about ''the game''

Are there any actual instances of the F-22 being in Zero?

>>528885859
There should be a few flying around in M17, west of the dam's reservoir.
Also Mobius 1 in the Gauntlet.

>>528887186
Huh, I must have never noticed. Well, I guess the goofy timeline is real.
Well, I meant canon instances

canard supremacy

New wave of Nuggets coming in a week or two thanks to the Steam sale. What's the next chance for AC8 news if the 30th is a bust?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1l3MUAk79E&list=RDY1l3MUAk79E&start_radio=1

>>528925349
Maybe Tokyo game show? It’s in September, which is also the month air combat released in NA

>>528925652
Surely, it can't be that hard to make to make a carrier variant if you're already sinking so much time and money into it.

>>528925652
>Certified France Moment: Part Deux

>>528925652
>Amount of people who didn't see this coming
Germany, Spain, Belgium
>Amount of people who saw this coming
The rest of the entire fucking world

I guess the Germans & Spanish are going to have to just suck it up and submit to Frances whims or buy British instead.

The clear solution is for Spain and Germany to start building catobar carriers

>>528939585
Germany doesn't have that much coastline and Spain is broke.

Anyone ever heard of this game?

>>528940826
As apparently it looks like it is that EDF but with planes game

>>528939964
The last time Germany attempted to build a carrier it didn't go very well.

>>528940826
>Space Wasp Attack
Huh, Yar's Revenge looks different than I remember.

>>528939964
Both problems that could be solved by conquering overseas territories using aircraft carriers

>>528953210
Something tells me that it'd make for one hell of a loitering munition/drone hunter today.

>>528954258
It would but we do have a perfect option in service today. Due to its flight speed and the huge amount of guided rockets she could carry.

Been thinking who in Sweden do we have to contact to ask if they'll do a photo shoot like this again but with Gripens.

>>528849083
Is there a setting in Duckstation to make the models look better? In motion, all my plane models look like a blended mess

>>528964807
When was the last time you updated it?

After you go check post a picture or record a webm of gameplay so we can see what you mean as what your saying is far to vague to help with right now.

I HAVE SO FAR TO GO

>>528970770
So far but at least they traffic is very light.

Just played 3 for the first time, am I crazy for thinking this is the best one in the series?

>>528978708
>am I crazy for thinking this is the best one in the series?
Not a common opinion, but I think it's pretty damn rad for what it is.

>>528925652
>I want the design to be compatible with CATOBAR carriers
>Mr. Pierre, you understand that most of our countries do not operate those? It would take too much time, resources, and design compromises to make it work for just one nation's specific naval requirements
>[French profanity] YOU SONS OF WHORES ALWAYS TRY TO FORCE YOUR WAYS UPON THE PROUD INDEPENDENT FRENCH

>>528986240
Maybe they can spin it by projecting sales to the US, given that the F/A-XX currently seems in limbo.

>>528940826
That name is so funny

Bump!

>>529000439
Is that based on a real Phantom livery?

>>529000504
I can't confirm it she ever flew with it but the F-4D displayed at the entrance of the Jeju aerospace museum in South Korea still uses it.

let me guess
you '''''NEED''''' more?

Dedicated ground attack aircraft still exist, they're just drones today

Does the Ace Combat story start of with the first game? Or is it one of those series where they only decided to take the story seriously a few entries in?
I'm considering doing a little marathon before playing 7 and was curious if I have to start from the first game or can maybe skip a few (Like skipping that one that takes place irl)

>>529010495
timeline wise the order is: AC Zero, AC1, AC2, AC04, AC5 Arcade(Op Katina), AC5, AC7 Arcade, AC6, AC7, ACX and lastly AC3.

>>529010495
Our usual suggestion is to start with the PS2 games in release order, both as an introduction to the setting and because they're well-polished. Regarding the others,
>7
Is the alternative starting point, and was intended as such by PA itself, who sprinkled in as many throwbacks to the older games as they could to entice people to play the older entries. Its flight model is way faster than the older games, though, especially thanks to high-G turns, and so I'd say to play the PS2 ones first to get your fundamentals in.
>3 (JP)
Has a very rich story, but is very far into the setting's future and a very different flight model.
>2
If you squint, you can see some hints of things to come. The flight model is also similar to the PS2 games, barring stalling and flying at high altitude, so it's easy to pick up.
>6
Has probably the best gameplay in the series, and expands on what's going on in the Anean continent. The in-game story is top-notch, while the cutscene story is a bit on the melodramatic side, but tolerable.

>>529010495
>Or is it one of those series where they only decided to take the story seriously a few entries in?
basically. The first couple of games are very barebones, 3 is very detached from the rest of the plot (until a bunch of connecting lines in 7 happen) and 04 is where it really starts, although there is a remake of 2 that makes it more story.

wrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ppshshhyweewwwwwwwwwwwwww wrrvmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm dugdugdugdug blamblam

>>529015390
vrrrrrrrrrrr
whheeeeeeuuuooooowwww
ptbttbtbbtbtttptptp

>>529015390
>>529022460
wooooooosh
phpshpspshshhssshshhhhhhhh

>>529004532
I need my nigga Larry
>captcha: mnygr
So that's two agreements here

>>529032106
The Larry in question

Hey there, buddies! The knockouts for /vg/ League 24 are starting today in 20 minutes, with /aceg/'s match happening in about an hour. https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague

Because we were unable to top our group, we're facing /pmmm/ in the "Hell's Wild Card" (renaming of Survival Round), and if we manage to win that, we'll go up against /smtg/ for a spot in the round of 16. https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_24#Hell's_Wild_Card

>>529039292
Fuck yeah. Can you (You) me when it's about to start, buddy?

>>529039292
Match starting now!

>>529041550
Sure thing, buddy

ONE MILLION LIVES GONE

>>529048437
Trust Phoenix to fucking murder people.

>>529050371
Rusegriz lives on.

A close, low-scoring 1-0 win, but we take those! Now we're set to face /smtg/ in around 2 hours.

I have that funny thing an argentinian guy talked me about. If I watch the game we lose but if I miss it or willfully ignore it while not thinking about it I'm surprised by the good news of a win later.

>>529050706
/aceg/ vs /smtg/ starting now!

And we had such a strong start.

Damn, just couldn't hold onto the lead there. Unfortunate end to our run, but at the least it went better than last League. Thanks for all who watched and supported, and lets hope the improvement continues on to next VGL, which will be happening around late November/early December.

Also, /aceg/ placed high enough to earn a rep spot on /vg/'s 4cc roster, for those who want to vote on that. I'll let the poll run for a day or so. https://strawpoll.com/GeZARp1A1yV

>>529070550
Don't make that face Torres it was your fault.
>>529072561
After that ludicrous display I don't expect many votes for Salvation.

>>529072561
You did good boss, a shame neither of us made it out or survival. We still need to get our match so see you next league.

>>529072561
It was a good effort and we got a spot, so that's still worthy of praise. Thank you for running the team, buddy, it's something amazing; thanks to you, we may see one of our own score in the 4CC.

>>529079791
Thanks, buddy. Sad to see y'all went out there too, you're one of my favorites. /aceg/-/uma/ final in VGL 25 for sure.

>>529087404
Thanks, buddy, I'm always glad to do all I can to put on a good show for y'all. I'll make sure to drop a mention in here whenever our player is playing for /vg/ this 4cc Summer Cup.

>>529015390
As a kid I had a neat little model Blue Angels jet toy, I think it was an F-16? Kinda sad I didn't hang onto them

>>528965482
Emu is freshly installed. 3rd person view is fine and cutscenes without panning look okay.

>>528974880
Doing this always reminds me of true lies.

>irl bullshit preventing me from joining the Shootout tonight
FUCK
Score some kills for me, buddies

I still find it weird how AC7, with all its plane packs and stuff never did the X-02A, hell its kind of a missed opportunity how we never got to see just some of them flying around as higher tier enemies in the base game or the DLC missions.

>>529131073
Isn't the X-02S just the newer variant?

>>529131073
I would KILL to fly the 02A, and isn't the plane under the tarps in 5 a Wyvern? Surely SOMEONE would've bought a squadron of them.

FUCK drones

nyoom

Bump!

>>529135157
I think making it into a two-seater and crooking its canards made it look worse than the A

I'm on a journey to the stealth dimension, I'll give whatever I need to give, sacrifice whatever I need to sacrifice, no matter the cost, in exchange of Stealthium, a completely radar absorbent material invisible to the IR spectrum. This will allow me to build stealth planes that actually look different and eye catching with the only downside of needing an internal weapons bay.

A bit late but room's up.

>>529172572
Well room's over.

Two more days, buddies. Let's hope for the best.

Saw the final AC3 ending. It had a lot of vague parts and the tone was very different to the rest of the later series, but I liked it. I feel like I got lucky and chose the canon order (GR->Ouro1->UPEO->NEU->Ouro2) to see things, because it all flowed very nicely with gradual reveals.
I knew about Nemo from the start but the reveal with Simon and Dision was good.

>one more mission left
This was fun. I played 5 like 20 years ago and haven't touched Ace Combat since.

>>529186142
Thank fuck at least I got Nioh 3 at sgf to anticipate.

>>529172572
I bet the global version will do Top Gun 3 collab as well.

>>529190309
Noice. No matter how long, you can't take the plon out of the buddy.

You think we'll ever get spin-off AC games ever again?

>>529212345
At this point even getting AC games ever again is up to chance.

>>529212345
Ending of 7 kinda feels like it’s setting up a spAce combat game

>>529212345
I still love the idea of a Metal Gear Solid-esque Ace Combat where you play as the ground troops in various missions across the series. I remember there was an image that kinda went with that idea, but can't find it right now

>>529232652
shoulda been an F-15

June 30th tomorrow, bros....

>>529245816
This is one of those aircraft where you can just look at it without knowing any context and go "Oh this one was super important wasn't it".

>>529251018
>pic
There was a war, a Belkan War?

>>529224571
>>529224738
>>529236509
Sucks that we'd never have a chance to see these even if they got made.

>>529251018
>already June 30th in Japan
>no news
It's over...

Open up hopium reserves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNFuG1BpViI

>>529270491
>my hero macadamia nut feature
>ac not in the quick IP lineup at the end
it's so fucking over

>>529270491
Nothing ever happens.

Nothing yet, let's wait for JP afternoon/evening
https://x.com/yukigktaka/status/1939284799220600894

>>529270491
I mean it might be the big stunner thing they don't talk about until the big reveal. It's nice seeing everyone in the comments asking about AC and nothing else.

I'm putting my tinfoil hat on
One of the biggest things that intrigued me regarding AC7's 25th anniversary image is the Yuktobanian Su-57 skins in the background.
Why would it have unique Yuke markings at the bottom of the tail, why the low-vis emblem that is seen no where else?
Why a skin that is seen NOWHERE else at any moment? (It's not Ghost squadron's skin, it's the ace skin for the normal Felon, nor is it the 5th Gen Fighter's skin)
Not to say that Yuktobania is gonna be involved in the next game but it's like the single thing that's even a potential teaser

>>529298510
Eggplen

>>529279469
Why would they lump AC in with the weeb stuff?

Porting the Trinity to consoles and PC would've made the 8 wait far more bearable.

>>529308571
The 30th anniversary will be just merch...

>>529323069
Most merch designs are mid af anyway. Would it kill them to add the protags planes on them at least?

>>529336738
>merch
>new live concert
>kono bragging about all of the cool jets he gets to see up close for "work"
Remember, it has to be so fucking over before it can be so fucking back

>>529337306
it seems like they are in "early production stages", AC8 was probably put on hold for years or was almost canned all together.

Judging by the leaks last year when bamco killed several big game releases including a deal with nintendo they probably wanted AC gone as well..its a sad company

>>529338962
They most likely put 8 on hold while they Remaster/Remake the early games. Both Capcom and Konami have been doing numbers with remakes, it makes sense that Bamco would do the same

Six years. Six fucking years we've been waiting and they still don't even have a working title for the game or a screenshot or anything. All we get is this worthless low-effort garbage and a passing acknowledgement of the anniversary and nothing else. I've had it. Fuck this series. Fuck PA and fuck all of them.

"We're still working on it" I don't fucking care. Show something, anything, or else fuck off.

>>529339918
I just want 6 on Steam Anon

>>529339131
Ace Combat 3 is a easy choice, would sell like water as long as they introduced co-op campaign and descent multiplayer modes like AH unironically.
>Will they do it
probably not lol
>>529339918
kek bamco probably almost killed ace combat post 2020

>>529339918
literally 2 more weeks lmao, yeah fuck Kono

>>529340656
I think if a game did get remade, they'd probably start with 4 first

>>529340837
I caught these, seems like it has a project name and the top pic could be the opening level of AC4, again just imagination

>>529341437
>red subtitle
hmm

>>529342162
please explain

>>529338962
I'm in doubt that it was because we've known that they created Bamco Aces since at least 2021, I think it's fair to say that they hadn't really kicked off AC8 development before that and that was before Bandai stopped developing some shit due to economical reasons.

Aardvark spotted!!!
Think this means the F-111 will make it's debut?

>>529355364
Looks more like a Fencer.

>they straight up release footage of them actively working on the game and doomers are still jerking themselves off raw to the thought of the franchise being shitcanned
why are you people even here

Can't believe Ace Combat is fuckin' dead

>>529336738
Does the release of this video mean it’s more or less likely that ace combat will show up at the bamco showcase

>>529355364
is this supposed to be a Falken? my guess is not because why else would they need to censor it like that? I thought it was just a blur from the screen behind it but a bit of it seemed to follow whatever model the guy was holding

>>529357808
These fuckers must not have been around for the drought after Assault Horizon. I've had to wait a decade each for both of the AC franchises I'm a fan of to come back from the dead 6 years is nothing.

>>529361030
>Censored Falken
Likely to censor whoever's roundels are on it. Belkan, perhaps? It's the red aircraft from AC2/AC3D, and the subtitle under the Ace Combat logo on the screen was also in red. The in-game dialogue does state that the righteous rebels wouldn't have been able to field it on their own and implied Belka was behind it.

>>529352143
I noticed this
it may mean nothing

>>529363008
It just says "Confidential". Literally nothing

>>529363504
>It just says "Confidential"
It does?

>>529363867
It's the same red font thing on screen when kono kicked nugget out. It's just a placeholder for the actual title
It's so over

>>529362802
>red aircraft from AC2/AC3D
I'm gonna be livid if it's gonna be another remake of 2 instead of giving 1 some much needed attention

>>529363973
The ACES WEB timeline omits the events of Ace Combat 2 and 1.

Very strange retelling of AC2/AC3D under the Product tab of the website.
>Osea and Yuktobania, the two superpowers of the Usean continent, have overcome a long history of conflict and are attempting to sign off on a treaty to form the Usean alliance, finally bringing peace to the world.
>But this plan is derailed when many of the smaller Usean nations, fearing a loss of sovereignty to the superpowers, start a coup d'etat which engulfs the entire continent in the flames of war.
>As the entire continent falls under rebel control, the Usean Alliance calls forth a group of volunteer airmen and forms the special operation team, dubbed the "Scarface Squadron", and tasks them with a counterattack on the rebel forces.
Scarface were always mercenaries, even AC3D stated this. The USEAN Alliance was just the countries on Usea as well, this was a civil war after the southern nations tried to split off and join Osea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dM7-58eFXI

>>529364456
>video doesn't even mention Yuktobania
kinda hilarious desu

>>529361030
That is 100% an ADF-01, they blurred the tail insignia

Ah yes. The only two places of importance in Anea. Mante and, Crnero?

>>529355364
Why they've never put in the F-111 is beyond me. It's big, but it's not THAT big, and it has all the capabilities you need for a playable aircraft, including an internal gun.

>>529355364
That's a fencer bro, sorry. Can tell by the tail and engine layout, as well as the waist. Fencer is a straight box whereas aardvark flares out at the waist before coming back in, tail design creates a gap between engine spacing unlike on the fencer. Doesn't mean an F-111 can't show up though so keep your dreams alive!

>>529368780
The Raven is bigger, anyway.

>>529337361
AC8 status?

>>529369354
Not just that, but the nose alone. Aardvarks have usually only flown with a black nose, Fencers have a white one.

>>529370950
We gaan (but quietly)
Expectations for July 2: positive even if we don't get the announcement, and cautiously optimistic that we will get it

Td dr on what happen during the Anniversary? I'm reading no news on AC8?

>>529371070
i tend not to draw conclusions on paint alone (see example image), especially when it comes to models, and especially in the aces office where they are a bunch of plamo fans and can paint them whatever colour they want. Always taught to recognise by silhouette

>>529371526
They're teasing that something will happen, but they got our man before he could shed light on it

>>529372883
The dangers of undercover journalism.......

If we don't get ANYTHING at TGA this year I'm losing all hope. There's been enough time for ATLEAST a teaser trailer. No, I don't care that they showed them "working" on it, after all this time they should have somethng more than whatever they currently have.

>>529372072
Sauce?

>>529374064
Bitching about it won't make them put out a trailer any faster.

>>529374478
AC7's news page on steam

>>529374561
No, but it makes me feel better about the whole thing, so I'll continue to do it.

>>529372883
ADF-01 on desk, twice in same vid. Endless

>>529369354
Older planes huh...

>>529374064
electrosphere 2 soon, trust the plan

https://youtu.be/oo3PahlZ-Vs?0l0GKIWX7YWhnkhI
Neat. Is this the first time Air Combat 22 has been rereleased?

Are you ready for the reveal...

There's a badge missing.

>>529374064
>>529376723
The problem is they began development until very recently, meaning the series almost ended like Soul Calibur.
Its shaping up to be a remake like Assault Horizon 3DS, probably AC2.

>>529365747
yooo I have that exact same kit by Koto

>>529384078
Nice buddy, I have the modelers edition of it cause i want to make it more AC2-esque before paint. got an X49 night raven as well

>>529371526

Enjoy your video

https://youtu.be/EmXUy2MCUA4?si=9j9asbhbYVZcm8PN

>>529379365
Do you have any source on ac almost getting canned?

>>529379365
>>529394096
It's not a case of Ace Comabt "almost getting canned," it's just that Bamco had the bulk of the devs on other projects, because "Project Aces" is just an internal name for whichever Bamco devs are working on Ace Combat at any given time and not an independent studio.

>>529394778
Bandai Namco Aces have been their own internal studio since 2022-ish as far as I know
https://gamingbolt.com/bandai-namco-aces-established-by-bandai-namco-and-ace-combat-8-developer
But the game was never canned, it probably only started development around 2021 and they love taking their sweet ass time with AAA games nowadays.

>>529377426
That view distance is insane. I never took a proper look at AIR COMBAT 22 before.

>>529379160
Saving for falco from that one iOS game

next year for sure bros

>Air Combat 22 will get a re-release on the 2nd
Not the first game I'd expect

>>529361030
It's def a FALKEN yeah. They move it past the censor blur at the last second. Funny it's also sitting on the table next to the computer at 3:05 mark, you get a clear back-view of it.

>>529427521
>you get a clear back-view of it.
As clear as these few pixels can be...

wasn't the Rafale A bigger than current's Rafale versions?

Did I slip into another whoopee land on which the 10% difference it's no longer there?

Magic Spear 1, come in Magic Spear 1

>>529372883
>That PA logo

<< It's readying it's APS! >>

So, what's stopping PA re-releasing old titles? People would pay good bucks for being able to play the Trinity on modern systems.

>>529379365
I'd much rather have a Zero remake than 2 or 3.

Death to remake culture. The games are easily accessible already, that effort should go towards making something new.

>>529450417
Only after we get the remakes we want, like Zero and GT4.

>>529426572
You'd think 04 would've gotten preferential treatment.

If they're doing this rerelease shit we're not gonna see AC8 until atleast 2027, if not 2028, I am sure of it.

>>529426572
And it's not coming to PC, this shit sucks. Well I guess you could always emulate the switch version, might as well go the MAME route at that point though.

>>529398032
I can understand taking your time with games, but 4 years of development, and not even a teaser trailer? Seems pretty ridiculous to me.

>>529450417
>easily accessible
You over estimate the normi ability to do emulation.

>>529372883
Rip, Nugget is going to the 444 Squadron.

Tenjin Hidetaka of Macross fame did a painting for the 30th anniversary.

>>529466994
That's really cool

>>529450417
I don't mind remakes for games that could use remakes, games that were good in concept but had a lot of flaws that held them back from achieving something. Snake Eater, RE4, and Dead Space really don't fall into that category.

>>529472690
Yep, the problem of remake culture of today is that developers/publishers gravitate towards remaking the top draws - existing classics, instead of flawed games that never manage to tap into their full potential due to the technical limitations or bungled developments. Unfortunately that's how the industry works. People, from developers to customers, aren't willing to take that chance.

>>529473719
The annoying thing comes in 2 forms: most aren't remakes, they're re-releases with updated graphics and a few tweaks. Or, they actually try to remake something and it sucks.

But I'm happy to see the bigger parts of the industry crash and burn. We need it.

>Air Combat 22 will have some kind of of online play
Neat

where should i start with the series? i'm eyeing ac2 or ac4

>>529495431
AC4

>>529495431
AC4. You can go back to the first 3 with minimal issues.

>>529450417
>>529472690
>>529473719
>>529476708

Gamers are always crying about companies ''leaving free money on the table'' when a minute pasdes without their beloved games going without a remaster. Then when it happens it turns to the ''omg who asked for this!!!!'' shit.

>>529495431
Shattered Skies.

>>529501259
Association fallacy.

>529015390
>529022460
>529024113
>529046174
>529079791
>529101435
>529172572
>529251018
I'm trans btw

There's a giveaway for diecasts for any other europeans on here
https://beta.bandainamcoent.eu/it/cb/ace-combat-30th-anniversary-giveaway

>beat 4
>playing through 5 now
>sudden urge to get into model building

>>529515270
Grab rattlecans of primer and USAF grey, an AK wash or two, and have fun!

>>529104059
Hmmmm never had that issue on either PC I played on
Try the following then
When was the last time you updated your video card drivers?
Use the guide its outdated but still do what it says as best you can as some of the do this stuff is no longer needed or you can't do anymore
Make sure you have these things checked
Vsync
Use Vulkan not openGL for Renderer
PGXP geometry correction
That should fix everything if it doesn't we'll need screen shots of how you have duckstation setup to see what may need to checked or changed


>>529104660
Now all we need is to do that with a harrier

>>529032319
>Listening to Kick start my heart
>Sees image
>Son of a Belkan!!!!!

>>529501259
But I don't want a remaster? Really the only reason I want Ace Combat to re-release some of it's old games is just to get more money for Ace Combat 8; 90% of the time I just tell people to emulate them.

>>529501259
>"the gamers" are a hivemind

>>528774908
That fatso is a clumsy bomber, and has a shitton of flawa according to leaks. Is that the best chinks can do?

>>529336738
A day late but still
>Dang it PA your put blur on the monitor we can't see what nugget saw.
>Kono got a comfy Hawaiian vacation on Bamco's dime smart man

>>528940826
It's indeed one of EDF's siblings from D3's Simple 2000 series. EDF 1 was #31, SWA is #78 and EDF 2 is #81. Oneechanbara is also part of that series (1 is #61, 2 is #90)

>>529212345
Shadow Labyrinth, that weird Pac-Man metroidvania, is in the same universe as AC but 1200 years in the future.

>>529222594
The Sepia from AC3 is my favorite plane in the series, and it's a space fighter. More Sepia is big win.

>>529523226
D3 is a publisher not a developer EDF is made by a company called Sandlot while that one is made by someone else. If you wanna stretch it it works but its made by someone else

>Oneechanbara
I started playing that on 360

>>529377426
I might pick this up would be nice to have a smooth clean AC 22
>No PC
Nani the fuck its 2025 and its console only?

>>529001797
I was there a few years ago. Looks like they gave her a makeover.

>>529372883
Poor nugget

Can you correctly identify each ace by plane and colors?

>>529533580
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the Apalis is the canon plane for Gryphus 1
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>529522867
>Kono got a comfy Hawaiian vacation on Bamco's dime smart man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUbEJ84OLYs

>>529535202
>the Apalis is the canon plane for Gryphus 1
I think that one's supposed to be Falcon flying next to Gryphus' Raptor.

>>529535202
>He doesn't know

>>529536584
>Falco flying next to Gryphus' Raptor.
Not the anon, but I was brainstorming really hard what the third Raptor was.
ACXi would've never crossed my mind, only now did I remember that they outright show Gryphus flying a Raptor during the cutscene where Genette misses out on interviewing him.

>>529533580
I really hope the next game has a different canon plane than the F-22 again.

>>529538070
Yes

>>529536584
>>529536687

>>529535202
He did use Apalis according to the pictures from the old ACES WEB ACX page.
Can't post images but I think they were in Eugene Solano's memoirs.

>>529538070
if F-22 being a cover plane is non-negotiatible I think they should drop the cover plane = canon plane thing.

<<Blaze!>>

>>529544914
Are going to do anything for the 30th or are we really that dead?

>>529546425
There’s a bamco showcase tomorrow, maybe they’re saving whatever for that

>>529548591
I meant as in the thread is /aceg/ going to do anything for the 30th. Like a drawing or something

>>529548591
If they don't do it at the showcase, I would think they're gonna drop a trailer after they finish the little tribute videos for each game.

>>529550757
How many drawfriends do we have left?

>>529554282
That is a good question I have no answer for

>>529554282
I haven't had much time to do creative stuff, including the Mirage skin, so I don't think I'll be able to do anything for this anniversary, but I should be back around mid-July for creative stuff.

>>529564974
Given how slow they are to show off anything for 8 a later this month 30th pic would be very appropriate and fitting.

This always gives me a laugh
Eagle, F-35, F-14B, Hornet
>Not suited for ground attack

>>529554282
One here.

>yfw you see the Blaze do everything meme in action.
Me
>Blowing up ground target
Swordsman, Edge, Grimm
>flying low and goofing off

>>529548591
Why would they announce 8 on a showcase that's mostly weeb stuff?

>>529569582
I hope 8 gives us 5;s variant autism back. With mupltiple spw choices, obviously.

>>529578646
Yes
F-15C, E J, MTD, SE, EX & the return of the S
each will have 5 SPW choices the SE will have the stealth missile the twins used.

>>529580997
The fact that 8 will most likely come after the F-15C will have been retired from USAF service is making kinda sad. I mean the A-10C is getting booted in less than two years from now.

Smol follow-up on /aceg/'s rep for /vg/ after the /vg/ League: With the tournament finished, Sky Eye actually ended up getting the highest saves of any non-top-3 team in the tournament with 21 total, which means Sky Eye will actually be repping /aceg/ as /vg/'s goalkeeper in the Summer 4cc tournament (which will be starting July 25th).

>>529582585
Nice

>>529582585
Damn shame that the run ended early but glad to see we're still repping.
I don't suppose we can convince you to do more testing and see if we can't strategize a League win for the Winter Cup?

>>529582585
Oh hell yeah. Time to block incoming from Stonehenge.

>>529586308
Yee, I'll definitely be working on the tactics some more for next League. Got re-energized a bit with PES with /aceg/ and my 4cc team /c/ doing overall well the past couple months

To big to post this 30th image so I'll just link
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/132130455

Instead here is a complete unrelated image because why not.

>>529600034
That artist's work is CUTE

>>528942202
Maybe don't put the forces under intense rivalry with each other and they might succeed

>>529277595
Is this the only AC fictional plane said to be flyable if ever built IRL?
I know Morgan is just waiting for a wing snap, but there are rumors....

>>529569582
> AC5
> FB-22
> YA-10B
> F-14B
> MiG 1.44
> Hawk

did AC5 have most plane varieties before the existence of Infinity?

Oh, it's already July 2nd, today's the day where nothing happens. Time flies faster than a Blackbird nowadays.

just retried emulating ac6 with xenia after giving up on it a year ago or so, ive got it working perfectly in battles but now the cutscene sound is doubled
is there a fix or this or is this the best we've got

new PCSX2 update seems to have fixed the general blurriness when upscaling AC04

Plen

It's over... TGA and TGS are our only hope now for this year.. At least they've confirmed to be working on a mysterious something..

does anyone have that "I am not an F-22" image that had an F-22 at a computer?

>>529633168
TGA is the only hope really. That show has replaced E3 as THE place for game announcements at this point.

Stop dooming, buddies.

Keep dooming, buddies.

>>529634357
bad flanker

>>529633168
theyll announce ac8 after the orchestra next year
thats what the "and more" meant

>>529635940
3 was such an ugly game

>>529639205
don't reply to me ever again

ac6 is overrated
the bigger battles are cool in concept but in reality they just mean you have to fly for 5 minutes between objectives (but this is the case in basically every other ace combat game so it's not it's fault)
everything else was middling at best
onto ac3 jp

>>529634357
It's not over yet.

>>529639205
you didn't reply to me but also don't reply to me ever again

>>529615550
Every single plane is flyable IRL for two reasons
>IRL concepts that have flown make any of the AC originals look tame.
>Have never heard of the triumph of thrust over everything?

>>529642240
3 JP, gave me a massive headache. I only completed one run and that’s going to be it for me. Good luck buddy. Maybe I should try 6.

>>529646919
> thrust over everything
Isn't that what the Germans think of when they designed Komet

>>529647278
Nah. The Komet is very aerodynamically clean, which is a must if you're going to spend 3/4 of your flight time as a glider.

>>529646936
>massive headache
???? Explain

But 6 is crazy fun its 15 missions as crazy as 7's DLC every single time plus you have this wonderful fuck that grid square option called allied attack. Make sure you try out all the DLC skins each one changes the planes stats and ammo count. Each skin offers a different stat/count for the plane. The Idol skins offer an special bonus along with stat/ammo changes some of the bonuses are good some are for a challenge and the A-10 Idolmaster is the Sepia in A-10 form plus you have 60 FAEB to go wild with.
Yes go play 6 you'll see why we all speak highly of it.

>>529615550
I'd say the Nosferatu is AC's most realistic/practical superplane design. It's got a sensible planform without the costly complexities of other strangereal designs. Most of it's unrealistic aspects lie in its weapons, I don't see things like the VLS Micro Missiles and Railguns ever being fitted to a real design, but with conventional weapons it would be perfectly reasonable.
Other planes could probably fly, but would be mostly impractical for the role.

>>529648924
>When your PLS is flashing the low battery light

>>529615160
But that rivalry is the entire reason they built a carrier its just the Germans couldn't into carriers as they were focused on a land war.

>>529615984
Yes, 5 has the largest selection of all the mainline games. Maybe if we're lucky 8 will beat out both 5 & infinity for plane count.

>>529633168
The Bandai thing's already over?

>>529670082
It's starts in about 80 minutes, but Ace Combat 8 isn't in the list of featured games. I hope that it will be surprise announcement but who knows?

>>529670735
Looks like they delayed it 40 minutes

>>529680007
*30

>>529521951
China has another 6th gen project bwo.
One that is actually looking right out of ace combat.

Saw that 30 from the countdown timer and got jumped

>>529670735
While I don't expect it to be there it neing absent in the game list and still showing up wouldn't be too out there. You can't really excite or surprise people if some text on a list reveals anything beforehand.

Here we go.

>>529615984
At the cost of one special weapon per plane. I really hope they never do that again, and I wish they'd go as far as to just ape pw and give us loads of spws and 3-4 slots per plane. And while I'm wishing, bring back the only good thing from assault horizon: the livery editor.

Haha

Welp it’s over. Time to wait for TGS

its so over.......

>>529521951
>leaks
I wanna read up on that shit.

AC8 is never coming out, is it?

c'est fini

>>529644483
It is over now.

>>529690921
Bcё кoнчeнo. C'est la vie.

>>529691532
It is what it is

I expected nothing and I'm still let down.

Seriously what the fuck is taking them so long. I'm not asking for a trailer or so, just a teaser screenshot. Literally anything.

Reminder that if AC8 releases after April 24th 2026, more time would have passed between AC7 and AC8 than between ACAH and AC7.

Absolutely unnaceptable.
Goddamn I've been playing E33 and DS:2 recently, both games with incredible amount of work put into them and both started development after covid, there's no excuse.

>>529694395
ac7 was a simple game and had to be restarted 1 year before release, its wishful thinking to expect things to smoothly the second time.

>>529694395
At least between AH and 7 there were still a couple titles.

>>529697210
People like the AC formula, they don't have to make a game that's much more ambitious, and AC7 had a solid technical basis, just make an incremental upgrade in term of graphics and scale and release that within 5 years of AC7.

>>529697234
Not even Project Aces remembers Northern Wings.

>>529647650
The plot is impossible for my amerimutt brain to follow unless I look at a condensed summary.
I’m always crashing, can’t turn unless I’m 100% right side up. Can’t see the ground.
I have the hardest time completing timed missions on easy difficulty, always run out of time and fail.
Out of 16 ps1 games I emulate, it is the ONLY one that has issues on multiple emulators. Whether it’s my 4090 7800x3d windows machine, or my imac M1.
Resolution and scaling, vsync issues, audio delay etc. 21fps with a 4090 doesn’t make any sense.
I’m using the project Nemo fan translation. As far as I know, that ROM is supposed to be normal. So it’s got to be something on my end that my dumbass can’t figure out.
It’s so frustrating that I broke a controller.

I would happily pay AAA prices for a remake of 3, using the 7 engine.

>>529698285
Good.

>>529698682
i get the flight model being an adjustment if you're used to any of the other games in the series but in my experience the game was plug and play with duckstation so i don't know how you're having emulation issues

>>529544914
This is so beautiful, where's the sauce? I want the highest resolution possible for my wall.

>>529544914
Who am I missing, fellas? Dunno anyone from 3.

>>529707954
I don’t know either.
6 is the only major title I have left to play. Hope it turns out well, I think it will.
Thank you

I guees we are in turbo dev hell then. We should expect no news from Gamescom and TGS.

>>529710867
Red mobius stripe is Reaper from ACI, Antares with the Martinez Security F-22 and lastly Rena using her COFFIN Super Flanker and NEMO flying the standard COFFIN Super Flanker.

>>529710867
>>529711826
Different anon; the yellow UPEO flanker's Nemo, the blue UPEO flanker's Rena, for clarification's sake.

>>529689286
They could reasonably do both? Infinity has loads of plane and multiple spws

>>529698682
> impossible for my amerimutt brain to follow unless
Its 90's cyberpunk its very Ghost in the Shell do you not watch anime at all?

>crashing can't turn
Not to sound like a bitch here but that is all skill issue 3's flight model is very strange it just takes some getting use to. When I started up the JP version it took me about 6-7 missions to get back use to its bizarre flight model. When I originally played the US version on my PS1 it took some time getting use to how this one handled.

>ONLY one that has issues on multiple emulators
I listed off somethings to try did they not work?
So in that case I want you to take some screen shots of the following parts in duckstation and post so we can see what you need to change in your settings to fix this.
take a picture of
Emulation
Graphics and each subtab within the graphics option
That way either me or someone else here can help you with the problem.
For me 3 plays just fine on 2 different PC's so its something on your end for sure.
And again when was the last time you updated your 4090?

>>529718519
That was the gist of what I understood about the plot.
I watched the first Ghost in the Shell only.

I fully admit that I need to get good, just can’t seem to react fast enough or get the correct muscle memory developed. Even though I’m pretty good at the other games in the series.

I will respond tomorrow, since I am phoneposting at work. Thank you for your help.

No AC8 announcements
Post puchis

nyo.

Any other games that feel like Ace Combat? They don't really need to be about planes or vehicular combat but based on my experiences with Mechwarrior and Armored Core not playing as a human and limiting yourself to vehicles and briefings does wonders for maintaining the ace combat like structure.

>>529730235
theres a cute indie game called version 3 on steam thats basically a remake of the first armored core but with little unicycle fellas
i only played the demo because it didnt really grab me enough to pay the price they're asking for but it might be something you'd want to keep your eye on
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2509800/VersionThree__INVISIBLE_RAID/

>>529711790
Treat your puchis well and you shall get AC8 soon

>>529725562
>since I am phoneposting at work.
Why don't you show your boss that you are phoneposting at work?

What's the general consensus on AC6?

>>529725562
You're welcome, buddy.

>>529730347
Caramelldansen with AC7 characters when?

>>529736602
>Gameplay
Great
>Cutscene storyline
100% pure Japanese melodrama cheese

>>529736456
He phoneposts more than I do, not on 4chin though.

which ace combat character is mostly likely to phonepost at work?

>>529730235
Try a game called Zansenki Exwell. It was universally acclaimed.

Historia

>>529737850
David Norton, he tell his magic AI to do everything while he phoneposts. That and Fullband phoneposting from solitary about how much of a shit the Colonel is.

Huh, thread draws have ended up on a booru. Its not a bad thing its just unexpected.
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=ftsagy

>>529738701
New space-based AC where?

>>529738527
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10299522&tags=ftsagy
X-44 Manta my beloved

Gameplay video? Looks interesting.
https://files.catbox.moe/wqklh7.mp4

>>529737662
That is one thing I haven't came across before so uh have a Sailor Count instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47MyIPPVpWs
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3437690/Project_Red_Sun/
AND WE'RE UP!!

>>529740810
>red sun
>le guerrillas
>leftist devs
>PW producer wannabe
nah im good. maybe ill pirate it

>>529736602
Way better than i remembered, target density and objectives make AC7's missions look like a joke and a downgrade(cause they are). Has absolute chef's kiss moments where callsigns you helped come back to help you. Lets you change the flow of a mission through in mission performance which in turn lends those assets to your 'get em boys' button.
Emmeria actually likable unlike those Osean bastards we keep being forcefed. Cutscene stories can be a bit whatever at times, especially the 2 women roadtrip. Makes up for it with absolutely hilarious Estovakian boylove/ladies can't resist us moments, and go dance with the angels mister (aka kys). Liberation of gracemeria is toptier and so are the squadron vibes (can tell it followed zero).

>>529741983
>Emmeria actually likable unlike those Osean bastards

>>529740810
Legitimately looks awful.

>>529740810
Think I'll wait to see how it plays before I judge.

thoughts on Nuclear Option? been messing around with it and it seems fun, nice inbetween of AC-style arcade stuff and proper flightsim

>>529750781
Its pretty cool, only downside is that its far too MP focused for my tastes.

>>529736602
one of the best games in the series gameplay-wise
the cutscene story oscillates between "hilarious cheesy melodrama" and " just plain obnoxious", while the in-mission story is the series' usual hammy action movie fare albeit with some pants-on-head moments (e.g. the whole "disobeying orders" subplot that lasts for like 1 mission and is never brought up again)

>>529750781
i think its fantastic
>>529751095
thats the communitys fault more than anything, but there are still plenty of singleplayer missions already on the workshop and theres nothing stopping you from taking the bigger mp-focused missions and playing it in singleplayer

>>529740810
>Dev with Palestine flag in bio
>FAN is producer+writer
>Probably retarded twitter VAs too
Nah.

>>529751506
>theres nothing stopping you from taking the bigger mp-focused missions and playing it in singleplayer
yeah i've been doing that to get familiar with the game (starting off w/ the restricted low-tech one)

>>529751536
>>529740987
the issue is that the game itself just looks like deep fried dogshit, all western indie AC clones have this issue where everything just looks ultra chintzy and cheap and they always have some dude in his single bedroom goycage with a 5 dollar temu mic doing voice acting

>>529751828
That looks cool as hell ngl

>>529751828
Unlike the people that flag represents, I'm gonna pass

>>529751828
nice.

>>529751828
When will these people understand that trying to shove flags down people's throats while insulting them is doing more harm than good?

>>529757060
Tell that to the fucking yanks.

>>529757149
Don't worry anon if we keep our current trajectory it'll be the Chinese doing that in about 15-30 years.

>>529761067
>implying its not the chinese helping bankroll this stuff

>>529757060
Everything around political discourse today is based around insulting your opponent and feeling better.
>Fuck you liberal snowflake LGBT DEI hire

>>529730235
daemon x machina is an armored core like and arguably more armored core than 6
you can feel the influence of being a switch title and not having much budget but I had a good time
hopefully the second one is more fleshed out

>>529764928
>arguably more armored core than 6
i'd argue the only way dxm could be any less like armored core was if it didnt have mechs to begin with
what does dxm and "real armored core" have in common?

>>529740810
>>529751828
I am desperate for a new AC or AC-like game, but not by that much, so no thanks.

>>529740810
>>529751828
>game doesn't look promising
>focus on le politics instead of criticising the game itself
Redditors detected

Posting as a reminder for myself (to complete the damn thing).

>>529741983
> Emmeria > Osean bastards
This alone shows your opinion as valid.

I wonder about national stereotypes in Strangereal.

>>529755289
KEK

>>529767795
When those "politics" permeate into the game they're creating, I would just have to fuck right off from that. Maybe I'll pirate it once the full version comes out.

>>529769063
> Belkan = warmonger
> Yukes = copyfag (Scinfaxi and Dragonet)
The first one I'm sure, the second is....

>>529741983
The story of the tank crew is where its at

>>529766359
piloting a mech as opposed to playing a souls game with a mech skin where you have not estus flasks and turn on a dime

>>529769457
Not the anon but
>turn on a dime
is such a silly comment to me since I can only imagine what you'd think about the fourth gen Armored Core games based on that.

>>529770073
There is no turning speed stat in AC6.

> reuse the "unsinkable" Kestrel name
> sunk
> reuse Vulture's name, a sunken carrier
> survive

What did they mean by this

>>529770073
its not really a point of contention that in 6 you're controlling a souls dude wearing mech bits
its very well obfuscated but you're very clearly not operating a machine the way you were in all the other games
that was one of the central charm points for armored core (and ace combat) for me compared to their peers
the game puts you into a machine and makes you feel like you're operating the machine even if its not going full sim with controls or physics it was more actual control than say star fox and space harrier which 90% of flight games ape

>>529740810
>Plane rolls, then flies in a straight line
Not a very exciting trailer, even for a teaser. Their twatter already has a few clips of actual gameplay, showing off the flight model, basic weapons, a few enemies, and general presentation. I don't get why they didn't use those.
>Enemy faction is simply called "the coalition"
>"from Kurdistan to Kansas"
I have a feeling the story is going to suck ass.
In any case, it looks like a decent foundation, but little more than that. I'll definitely try the demo, see how it actually plays.

>>529730235
Secret Weapons Over Normandy is basically Ace Combat in WWII. I highly recommend it.

>>529770954
It's a 50/50 chance.

>>529769205
>the second is....
Actually fairly reasonable.
I bet the stereotype for the entire Usean continent is that they kill each other at the drop of a hat.
>>529770954
They thought it was AC5, but instead they got FTL.

8 WILL release some day
Nugget showed me that they were working on it!
Nugget wouldn't lie to me right?

>>529740810
>FAN
No thanks. His puffed up pseudery irks me.

>>529740810
>Sees a plane flyby umm ok
Until I see some real gameplay I'm at the we'll see stage
>People making the game
Why do I get the feeling these are the kind of people who shove their views in your face to such obnoxious levels that it just turns people off and ends up making the game pure crap.

>>529730235
Raider Sphere 4th as its all but AC in all but name.

>>529554282
a few

>>529777676
> AC8
> Project Aces decide to go nuts and replace almost all the Sukhois with its Chinese copies
> Su-57, F-35 and J-20 are now the top aircrafts
> return of bomber gameplay because why not

Let this be true because it will be so fucking funny

>>529785120
>No flankers just 2 chink flankers
>Su-57, top tier
And that was the day Kono was put into the looney bin as clearly he has been overworked and his mind has turned to mush

>>529785795
> Su-57
I mean why not? F-22 was also never officially deployed against anything other than a weather balloon. Least as far as I remember

>>529785795
The Su-57 is top tier in AC7 sir..

>>529786348
F-22 is high mobility plus stealth
Su-57 is just mobility with the RCS of a whale

>>529786767
Only thanks to her PLS Its honestly the only weapon I ever took with that plane.

>>529787383
Still could work. Not like stealth meant much for single player campaign. Use Su-57 more of a weapons carrier like in AH with cruise missile as spw

>>529787779
Kind of funny that AH correctly predicted the 57's role in war 11 years before it happened.

>>529779970
he is a hack so

>>529788170
57 could fit the anti ground role for 5th gen aircraft.
Raptor for AA, F-35 with LASM for maritime strike and Su-57 with anti ground cruise missiles.

>>529793418
The 5th Gen Fighter variant from the Top Gun DLC already rocks LACMs.
If AC8 sticks with the three-SPW-per-plane format, I can definitely see them replacing the GPB on the regular model with those.

>>529740810
Looks like a tight-budget Project Wingman, no thanks. But people are retarded and will eat it up.

>>529751828
Hoo boy they picked a prime time to drop this, on the year that pride month faceplanted.

>>529771968
>I have a feeling the story is going to suck ass.
I'll go out on a limb and say most fans of things, no matter their ability to code or whatever, absolutely can not write a good story for shit. Comparatively few people these days try to actually dissect a story and see what makes it good.

That's why fans who becomes writers of most things, including long-running franchises, end up writing shallow stories. They only grab the handful of things they see on the surface and usually don't look at what inspired those things and the tone.

Star Wars and Star Trek are favorite examples of mine, it just turns into hollow nonsense following the stuff that's eye-catching in the movies, rather than looking at what inspired Lucas to do it. Almost every single Fallout fan mod with a story I've seen does the same problem, they really don't give a fuck about what inspired Fallout's unique feeling which is why they just shoehorn stuff in and it's like jamming mismatched puzzle pieces together.

>>529779970
I have no clue who FAN is but psuedo-intellectual wannabe philosophers are always frustrating twats. This is why you stick with the Scottish philosophy of common sense and not overthinking things too much, you go insane.

>>529796261
>I have no clue who FAN is
PW's writer. Make of that what you will.

>>529796261
>most fans of things, no matter their ability to code or whatever, absolutely can not write a good story for shit
May be related to a piece of advice, "never become what your fans think you are".

>>529797394
Oh God yeah that's no good.

>>529797765
>never become what your fans think you are
Pretty good advice yeah. I can't remember where I heard it but someone else summed it up well.
"The people who made Star Trek grew up watching this and that, X,Y and Z. The people who write for Star Trek now grew up watching Star Trek."

>>529800159
I kinda surprised you didnt know who FAN was since you were shitting on PW's story since its launch

>>529800159
>The people who write for Star Trek now grew up watching Star Trek."
Which is what to lead to that disaster that was Discovery.

>>529800159
>The people who write for Star Trek now grew up watching Star Trek
Not Alex Kurtzmann, who never liked ST :^)
As an aside, I know tons of people who grew up with certain franchises and made fanfics/concept art/related creative endeavours that fit well with the originals, and so I know for sure that some fans would definitely be able to make things that at least don't dilute the original vision. I think the biggest problem, at least for large IPs, is the suits trying to go for mass appeal/whatever appeals to shareholders in that moment.

>>529741983
>ladies can't resist us
God I forgot, what a great rival squadron

>>529515039
fuuug
i'd almost wanna buy those as is
never got that arsenal bird model either

>>529800371
I don’t have Twitter or other social media. Don’t particularly try to keel up with celebrities, internet or otherwise. These things just kind if appear in my life sometimes.

>>529802547
There is definitely a divide, I’ve seen a good number of fics or original animations on Youtube that do well capturing the spirit of something, and plenty that do not too. Transformers is an interesting example of the former; TF One’s director did pretty well and it turned out to be one of the best Transformers stories put to film, and I remember that Starscream fan OVA online really captured G1’s style very well. On the other hand, like I mentioned before, every Fallout fan story and especially mod I’ve seen has been poor; it’s often a very light grasp on the themes of Fallout while shoving everything Fallout-famous in there. There have to be Enclave and Super Mutants and references to the various wasteland characters even of it doesn’t make sense for them to be there.

>>529811783
>it’s often a very light grasp on the themes of Fallout while shoving everything Fallout-famous in there. There have to be Enclave and Super Mutants and references to the various wasteland characters even of it doesn’t make sense for them to be there.
Ready to be hired by Bethesda.

>>529737452
Oh my lord I am such an idiot. I got it working now.
I didn’t realize the in game option menu had a reaction time setting. I set that to fast and set the deadzone to narrow. So much better now. And I checked 2 to see if it had the same settings, sure enough.

As far as bad framerate goes, Duckstation was somehow set to global vsync yes, optimal frame pacing yes, and a couple others. That’s why when I unchecked those options for 3 I didn’t get any performance benefit. My other ps1 games don’t seem to care but 3 in particular was at 20fps with less than 1% cpu and 2% gpu usage. Now it appears to be full speed.

Now I just have to find out why the resolution upscaling isn’t working in 3. I’m stuck at 2.5k upscale. All the other games respond to the drop down menu but not 3.

>>529814271
They don’t even need to make Fallout games anymore. Even though 76 was a legendary disaster general audience fans were dumb enough to play it as it was ‘fixed’. So Bethesda gets their service-game they never should have.

>>529811783
Neither I, but people in this general posted about this guy before, Its how I learned about his existence too, also Fallout has got to be one the saddest fanbases in recent memory, the fanbase is incredibly divided while the IP holders just warp its themes and canon even more with each succeding title or other forms of media.

>>529814796
Good you figured it out

>other games respond to the drop down menu but not 3
Most people set the upscale globally not per game. So why are you trying to do it per game? It won't improve anything this way.

>I’m stuck at 2.5k upscale
Are you playing on a 4K monitor?

https://www.nexusmods.com/projectwingman/mods/673?tab=images
it's up

>>529815506
Fallout at least has some genuine history to it, Fallout 1 can easily be one of the greatest computer RPGs of all time. There’s plenty of IPs with warped, weird fanbases despite said IPs never being good to begin with.

I look forward to hearing about everyone’s examples of such IPs below.

Lmao
Come to think about it FAN was also involved with that Dawn Aerowar "audioplay" thing, which was "near the finish line" two years ago, with no real news since.

>try to post
>please wait 120 seconds
>go do something else
>remember I was trying to post
>please wait 120 seconds
>

>>529829505
>Dawn Aerowar
I had completely forgotten that was even a thing what did happen? couldn't raise the cash for more than the intro? Just abandon it?

how many times has the A-10 been retired now

>>529831413
Zero, all proposals have been blocked except for the last one

>>529830453
Too busy spending Kickstarter money on other shitty Kickstarters about children's cartoons.

>>529817081
I’m playing on a 4k oled tv.

I’ve always had the upscaling set to 4k but I noticed that the output resolution for 3 was not the same as the other games. So I started messing with it and realized 3 doesn’t respond to my resolution selection for some reason. It changes during cutscenes/menu/game engine like it’s supposed to. But even when I set it to native 240p it is still upscaled. Super weird.

>>529827495
HOW FAR TO PARADISE?

>>529835386
Ok upscale to 4K is reasonable then

Again I have no idea what you have done to cause this. It shouldn't do that you have something checked you shouldn't have checked
So post those screen shots so we can see what you have done.
Or just reset all your settings back to default set your global settings to what it says in the guide and don't mess with pergame settings. The AC games play just fine right out of the box all you really have to do now is set the upscale to what you want use vulkan for the renderer and check a couple of boxes and your set. Its very plug n play now but you seem to be messing with your settings like its several years ago and you had to do it to make games work now you really don't have to do that.

>>529830453
Good old fashioned scope creep.
>we've scoped DAWN Aerowar up to something considerably OVA like
>the final product will be 3 times longer than initially planned
Keep in mind they chose to do this with a crew of only two 2D artists, and presumably only one 3D artist, none of whom are able to work full time on it, due to "resource constraints". At one point they had a third 2D artist, but as of the last update, which was over a year ago, they're back to only 2, so they definitely blew all the money already.
Also, twice now they've tried justifying the lack of communication by claiming that the project is so close to completion they might as well release it instead of posting updates. The first time they did that was two years ago, in their "final update before full release", and the second time wasn't even in an official update, but in a reply to a guy saying he regretted backing the project. That reply was 5 months ago and there's still no new trailer or anything to drum up interest prior to full release.
>>529831963
>Has what it takes to be a hit
>Barely reaches 2/3 of the funding goal and fails, even with his 10K
kek, apparently not.

>>529779970
Isn't he basically your average NCD subreddit poster who made it into his job?

>>529796261
I thought Scottish philosophy is being being black-out drunk, not common sense,

>>529796261
Also Zero's story is very much a product of Maeda and Itomi's skill and talent. If a remake or sequel ever happens to Zero, it has to be written by them otherwise it will be a clsterfuck, just look at all the Zero memes.

>>529831963
I remember Matthew saying he wanted to make a shooter based on PW's Ronin team (basically his donut steel spec-ops team) as a way to get more work in the games industry. If guess he and crew got shown the door wherever they went.

>>529839382
That's what they get for making a Rafale as the protagonist plane. Also there's no way Kira Buckland didn't milk them dry. a VA as famous as her doesn't do this on the cheap.

>>529829505
Hmm, lets get Project Wingman and remove the sole competent aspect of it (the 3 dimensional arcade fighter jet game) so we can focus on the garbage "fanfic with the serials filed off" writing and art direction.

>>529839382
35K for an audio drama?? That is just insane I have seen fully voiced VN's cost less than that on kickstarter They even used live2D and still cost far less for the whole project. Something is really fishy with that.

And speaking of fishy that Red Sun has similar thing on its YT page.
fool me once shame on you
fool me twice shame on me
I grow more suspicious of this

Trying to emulate AC:zero for (first time emulating in years) so I downloaded the most recent epsx2, got my ROM file which works but am I retarded or can I not launch the game with any of the files in the "rom"??? am I missing something since I just get invalid ps2 format disk no matter what did rom dumps change since the last time I emulated or something? Epsx2's auto scan wont find the game in the folder either

>>529842982
>>529842718
Had 7 been Zero 2.0 in story and quality, people wouldn't have given PW the time of day and call the devs as NCD hacks.

>>529843554
Use PCSX2 and leave it in the iso format then go grab the HD hud texture pack
https://superostrich.xyz/trilogy.html

>>529844512
I think 7 has a pretty weak story, elements of something that could have been interesting but very clearly hacksawed together in a year, but it still clears PW by a country mile DESU

>>529840414
Worse, he's a g*ndam fan.

>>529843554
>>529844685
so windows was converting the iso into a group of files in a folder when I extracted. figured it out, thanks for the HD link though

>>529829127
Its what makes it even more tragic for me, it was good before, shit there were even glimpses of it being actually good again, but now all that comes out of it is just lower common denominator crap that somehow still sees commercial success with a weird and vocal part of its fanbase who endlessly defends the newer stuff at every turn.

>>529842982
>35K for an audio drama??
They call it an audioplay, but it's actually an animated movie. I guess Jose Pavli, as a composer, and head of the project, wanted to put more emphasis on his own contribution. They use 3D CG full animation for the planes and other vehicles, and 2D animatics for the rest. That's probably the main reason it's taking so long: they have 2 dudes doing an "OVA like" amount of work. I wonder how much input they had into the decision to triple the original scope.
Also, if that misnomer wasn't enough the company is called "Neiwa Interactive", despite the fact that the project is not interactive at all.

Vector Thrust had a good story thoughbeit

>>529855148
Ever heard of an OVA called Hoshi no Koe? Made by one guy for about $5000 (~$10,000 in today's money). 2 dudes doing an OVA amount of work don't float when one guy did it 25 years ago for 1/3 of the cost. Still sounds like someone or someones are just sucking them dry

Anything new announced?

>>529863226
Not really

>>529863226
no go back to sleep

>>529863226
A new symphony in 26
We think nugget may have been killed by kono but the segments were edited to look like he's still alive.
See here for proof
>>529372883

>>529855941
Elaborate

wtf happened to project wingman? are they gonna make anything else for it, or go radio silent for another 3 years?

>>529866810
i also remember they teased korea war era jets but they never added them

If AC8 want to have a meme plane, they should add F-8 Crusader and stay faithful of it as a gunfighter first

>>529866951
At this point, don't put any faith in that team. They still haven't delivered on that fucking artbook after all these years.

> AC8
> This plane get released as "interceptor" with SAAM as spw
Do it Kono, for the memes

>>529844512
I think part of the reason PW got so much traction when it released was because AC7 modding was still locked down secret squirrel stuff at the time.

>>529869024
Is that just a free digital release, or an actual physical product people paid money for?

>>529796261
>That's why fans who becomes writers of most things, including long-running franchises, end up writing shallow stories. They only grab the handful of things they see on the surface and usually don't look at what inspired those things and the tone.
They also never received any formal education related to literature/storytelling. Even people who did could still also end up writing subpar stories, but at least better than those who did not.

Guess what this is, buddies.

>>529869024
I wonder what made them turn into assholes.

>>529872689
im sure it had nothing to do with pw's success and subsequent circlejerk community that formed around it

Here is the next AC game.

>>529872797
>circlejerk community that formed around it
how bad is it? i never interacted with the PW community

Has all the doomposting about AC8 gone to your heads or something? It's like the whole thread's in a bad mood today. That being said the PW devs absolutely deserve to get shit on with how they've handled it post release, especially after the DLC. I would like to play it but I don't want to give them money for it because it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. And I wrote off that knockoff of PW when they had anime people front and center for their keyart, that's not a good sign for stuff like this. It's like those people who say Evangelion and Code Geass are different from other mecha anime because they're about the characters. It's like they don't get the appeal of something they claim to be fans of.

Yf23 is goat in multi brawls, be it team or ffa. Prove me wrong.

>>529870660
Not even a physical release, but it's a nearly 250 page digital book. I'll copy some excerpts from the wiki, it's hilarious.

"All artbook stories were completed as of March 16, 2021. However, it is being delayed due to the addition of more commissioned art and general "feature creep", though Nguyen assured non-backers may still be able to get the artbook.

As of April 16, 2021, it has one character illustration. These will not be displayed prior to release"

>>529876250
Why did YF-23 get shafted in favor of the Raptor again?

>>529870660
It's a Kickstart reward they never fulfilled. Not even a physical release, but it's a nearly 250 page digital book. I'll copy some excerpts from the wiki, it's hilarious.

"All artbook stories were completed as of March 16, 2021. However, it is being delayed due to the addition of more commissioned art and general "feature creep", though Nguyen assured non-backers may still be able to get the artbook.

As of April 16, 2021, it has one character illustration. These will not be displayed prior to release"

>>529840414
It’s about getting drunk to a certain point where you can only talk common sense, because it’s so simple and obvious it’s all the drunkard knows. Like Demoman.


>>529840676
A Zero sequel of that nature would feel a lot like Project Wingman.

>>529842368
They got Kira Buckland to do a voice? Weird I only know her from voicing whores or toxic women.

>>529850768
I mean it did better than most. 3 is legitimately pretty close to 1 in its dire tone. New Vegas is good too. 2 honestly started the lighthearted comedy nonsense. Sadly that’s what a lot of franchises turn into. Star Wars is mostly just picking away at the surface and running on tropes now. And CoD turned into the standard for lowest common denominator

>>529855148
>35K for a reddit philosophy audiodrama OVA that doesn’t come out good
>Transformer fan makes an exceptional OVA with better plane combat just by proxy.
I don’t know how people spend so much money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9CQ-bccGY4&pp=ygUOc3RhcnNjcmVhbSBvdmE%3D

>>529879262
jews

>>529879413
Yeah I know. But what's the
> official reason
For YF-23 losing the contract

>>529881290
looked too futuristic

>>529881290
IIRC, concerns about the weapon bays and maintenance procedures.

>>529876250
You get chased by a single plane good at dogfighting and your only option is to feed or kill yourself, the YF-23 in AC7 only excels at killing people that are too new to know that it's there/how to chase it

for me it's killing everyone with long range missiles on the Mig-31 then running away

>>529885460
Truly the Ramirez of Ace Combat.

>>529881290
>“The real reason we (Northrop) lost the program was that Lockheed had no new fighter programs at that time, while Northrop had the F/A-18E/F and the B-2. It was in the national interest of the U.S. to keep Lockheed alive as an airframer.”
sounds like cope tho

>>529885501
FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Again, it's genuinely extremely easy to just focus on a single plane playing BVR and make sure they do nothing, especially since most of them have no idea how to play like that and will not be able to dodge anything

>>529888049
fuck lockheed martin
total northrop supremacy (grumman can stay)

>>529888310
I've found that in most large rooms with a BVR player, it just turns into score attack between myself and that player. Can I get points from farming them faster than they get points hitting nuggets that take RWR tones as a suggestion?
Most BVR players don't relocate after each shot, and some are very prone to crashing on purpose trying to deny me points (they still lose from doing this).

>>529876250
it's a HVAA boat that gets kills by dumping missiles into furballs (and for some reason these blokes trend towards cringe behaviour when people start counterplaying them).
i did cook up a low-cost standard missile build for the YF-23 a while ago but i never got to try it out properly. might reinstall AC7 eventually to give it a shot.

>>529888772
Well, farming them usually works out in your favor because there isn't a low cost stealth plane for BVR, a YF-23 is always gonna be a points pinata.
At least in my case the win kinda doesn't matter anymore, I'm only playing for the actual player-player engagements, so I don't mind hard counttering someone who decided to base their entire playstyle on not playing the game

>>529889608
>there isn't a low cost stealth plane for BVR
Some people do try by slapping Stealth 2 on the F-2 or F-14, but it's not as popular as it used to be.

>>529890145
>Stealth 2 on the F-2 or F-14
That sounds terrible, you're sacrifcing any potential your plane has just to be a bad version of a stealth plane with like a quarter of what makes the stealth plane stealth in the first place

Was Silent Eagle just a failed product? It's meant to be a stealthy F-15E but from what I see it's still very much a non stealthy plane

>>529892231
I believe it was meant to be an upgrade proposed to people who had the F-15 already

>>529890423
True, but these people usually wanted to fit in cost-limited rooms.

>>529892324
Was it that easy to swap the tailfins?