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==Comics Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #4 - 25 June 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #79 - 25 June 2025
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #5 - 16 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #80 - 30 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 27 August 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026
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>>528807480
i think i actually like whisper less after #79 (never liked tangle in the firstplace)
>>528830353 (OP)Ill be using the barry thread of course
>>528830353 (OP)I'll use this thread because I'm supporting /sthg/ moving on already.
>>528830353 (OP)Don't kill the quokka, dumb dog.
why haven't we gotten tmosth 2?
>>528830484>ever liking fatsperwhy
FNAF Mimic > Mimic
>>528830661I hope Ian Mutchler writes another Sonic project in future.
>>528830661Probably no financial incentive.
I still won't forgive Blaze for this shit.
>>528830715idk i just thought she was cute and had potential for cool things like a ShTH kind of story
My bestie Zooey supporting me having sex with Perci
>>528830484I would have liked her more if they showed her putting a thousand bullets on mimic's body and taunted him after.
>>528830838that's not blaze's fault
and why did people think sticks would become part of the main canon anyway? she was obviously created only for boom
Tell me why you like the schizo
>>528830958i was unironically thinking of drawing a short comic like that
>>528830838Why did does Amy's fur have a different color in both of them?
>>528831017She got Sonic Channel art alongside the main universe characters, she even had a profile and appeared in the Olympic Games
>>528830989No there isn't. You baked early for a second time in a row to push anti-Amy shitposting. You did that two days ago, too. Everyone is tired of you breaking the rules. This thread was baked fairly.
>>528831121Fuckin' LOOK at her.
>>528831121*Sip* she cute.
>>528830772Jobber the Octopus can't compete
>>528831190Do it, but let Silver have some of the action.
Yeah i prefer this thread, I dont like the constant ntr fetish shitposting.
>>528831017>that's not blaze's faultyes it is
>and why did people think sticks would-she's better then Blaze
Occasional reminder:
Skunk woman.
Zooey's Womb Zone
Sonic Jr the Sperm
>>528831365he'll probably be in it, but what i had in mind was just a short sequence of the characters after mimic's death with whisper looming over him and muttering "done"
>>528831121YOU tell me why you don't like this schizo
I love Metal Sonic. Even if he jobs.
>>528830989You're milking it.
sticks will always be a crappy marine clone to me
>inb4 you haven't watched/played boom if you think their personalities are similar
yeah, i haven't
>>528831620I can't do that because I do like her, mostly because she IS a schizo. I just wanted to make sure I was among people of good taste.
>be me, Nelson Thorndyke
>CEO of mega corporation
>always traveling, barely see my family
>wife is famous actress, also never home
>have son named Chris who we basically leave with butler and maid
>shower him with expensive shit to compensate for our absence
>finally get break in my schedule
>decide to surprise Chris by coming home early
>tell no one I'm coming
>arrive at mansion 11pm
>butler and maid already asleep
>hear weird noises from Chris's room
>think he might be having nightmare or something
>dad instincts finally kick in after years of neglect
>open door without knocking
>mfw Chris (17) is balls deep in what appears to be a blue hedgehog
>hedgehog making those weird noises
>hedgehog looks at me with dead empty eyes that say "help me"
>Chris doesn't even stop
>just says "Dad, I'm busy. We'll catch up tomorrow."
>slowly back out and close door
>call my therapist at 11pm
>increase Chris's monthly allowance by 50k
>book next flight to literally anywhere else
>some things money can't fix
>that thousand-yard stare from the hedgehog will haunt me forever
>>528831898I like them both.
>>528830353 (OP)Imagine of tangle actually dieed and mimic was the one making it.
Would idw be capable of that kind of kino?
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>>528832216>Would idw be capable of that kind of kino?
>>528830838I was kinda disappointed sega changed the original drawing, specially knowing sticks exists in the main universes.
>>528830989Feel free to stay there or kill yourself
This is the canon thread.
>>528832216Even if the comic was given full creative control nothing interesting would be done because the writers simply aren't capable of it.
>>528832216idw will always take the safest possible approach
>>528832762Honestly, it would be a interesting trainwreck if it happend.
>>528832165>gloves are still onAt least they were wearing protection.
>>528832846He's gonna come back, isn't he?
>>528833051not for a while
we went through a gay duck, gay octopus and now we'll go through the gay jester arc
>>528832913and he's underappreciated, making him an easier catch since everyone else would be after Sonic, Knuckles, and Shadow
fat wolf doesn't want to be fat anymore
>>528833234What about the gay businessman?
>>528832887I agree it would be interesting, just very very unlikely.
>>528833364genuinely forgot he existed
Still wonder why is there no smut for Kit and Blaze, those two make the shotacon rape where kit tops
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>>528833234Do we know if the jester is actually a he? I thought the jester was a woman.
>>528833396He gets the most merch releases of any Classic-only character.
>>528833503the jester is ackthually non-binary, chud
>>528833418I mean technically he was part of the gay octupus arc, wasn't he?
>>528833285Fat stinky woof will ALWAYS be stinky and fat!
>>528833469they look good next to each other
>>528833503we don't know either way
Sonic is so fast that we have two threads at once!
fat unemployed yumes educating their mothers about lolcows
>>528833564The jester is gonna kill himself in the end, mark my words.
>>528833487What would be Grindr profile be like?
>>528830996my beautiful wife
>>528833738As always, /sthg/ is the infamous cesspool general
>>528830838I'll never forgive Sticks for taking Blaze's spot in Boom.
>>528833738Thanks, babe. That's sweet of you to say.
>>528833617yeah but he wasn't main villain, maybe he'll get his turn now that mimic is dead (shitposting aside the jester definitely won't be a villain if they're a girl lol)
>>528831121She is the Lost Character of the Lost Decade...
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>>528795350
>>528833564Is gonna have rainbow colored hair, a septum and being unloved by their parents for being a failure as a human being?
>>528833758I can imagine the fatty explaining her mom about the sonichu medallion curse.
>>528834165why is ray so rotund
>>528833815All you need now is a beautiful house and a large automobile.
>>528834304He's returning to his manga physique
>>528834579He's flat, not fat.
>>528833794Dyslexia or ESL?
>>528834429May I suggest you?
When will Shadow get his tenrec?
>>528831735True. I will stick by Metalkek through better or worse.
>>528834962I remember being a kid and me and my friends seeing one of these bad boys pull up to my neighbors house when I was a kid. It was a relative of said neighbor and he was happy to show it off to a bunch of dumb kids. I'll always love the Diablo because of how happy it made a bunch of kids.
>>528834660I love this pic, i wish blaze interacted with big, funny how the only two cats in the franchise never interected.
>>528835901Yeah, Amy is the best.
>>528829187Nah. Sonic isn't yours, Windfag.
>>528836746Sonic Free Riders
>>528834165Sonic...
I have some sad news about Mighty and Ray...
Sit down.
Are you ready?
Okay...
...
I just received word that Mighty and Ray...were found...dead.
Yes, Sonic.
Off the coast of Eggman Island...
Mighty's body was found embedded in a spike trap; Ray had drowned nearby.
Their remains are being interred in Evergreen Hill Zone.
I know, Sonic. It's sad. We held onto hope for so long...
...
...They were a lot like us, weren't they?
No, I'm not saying that keeping Eggman at bay isn't worthwhile...
...
...But... It's just... gotten me to think a little, y'know?
What if our own adventures...end this way?
I'm just saying...we should think more about the future, you know?
Maybe...
...
...Now, I don't want to tell you how to live your life, but...
Maybe you should think about...
...
...Well, I heard you. I was in cyberspace, after all... the thing about making up your mind sooner...
What'll it take, Sonic?
You should tell her what's on your mind while you can.
That's all.
>>528836746Triple Trouble is based. Unironically a top 5 Sonic game for me.
>>528837010before zero gravity?
>>528836746Rush isn't even listed?
>>528837086triple trouble it is then, i'll do the rest of the riders games after it
>>528837216oops, i forgot to put it in finished
>>528835286>Silver's tenrec counterpart is from the Archie-verse>Sonic's tenrec counterpart is from the IDW-verseSo Shadow's tenrec counterpart is most certainly coming in the next comic-verse. Yup, for sure.
I shit myself earlier today
>>528838096Maria was Gerald's daughter and Shadow is his son. Shadria is incest
Watching movies with Surge
Letting her steal from my popcorn bowl just so I can see her smile
Laughing at all of her jokes and letting her lean in closer
Surge falling asleep with her head on my shoulder
Listening to her snore loudly as I gently get up
Picking her up and carrying her to bed, sound asleep in my arms
Tucking her in and kissing her goodnight
Cozy domestic life with gremlin tenrec wife
>>528838272*granddaughter but the incest point remains
>>528838272Here's your (You) cutie. Don't drop it.
>>528838557I would love to be her stay at home husband
>>528838985I could feel that there was something more than just friendship between Sonic and Tails in that show even as a 10 year old watching it
>>528837541It'll be Terios.
>>528838985Can Sonic still be the fastest thing alive with that much upper mass?
>>528832913I like mighty and wish he was allowed in non-classic stuff so we could see him more I want to see him pal around with knuckles and shit
>>528838254To see if you still feel?
>>528835286Why are tenrecs all such stinky gremlins?
>>528834660I accept the fan theory that Big is Blaze's son.
>>528853738Tangle is so lucky slapping Lanolin's fat tits.
>>528847072Kit is cute! CUTE!
79 was ass, should've just been whisper vs mimic, no pointless silver, no furry tracer.
>>528831561When will they make it canon
>>528838787Can't be stay at home husband, someone has to have a job and you saw that cover
What comic do you consider worse, 2000s-era Archie or IDW as a whole?
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Did the whole Mimic plotline ever have anything to do with Sonic The Hedgehog? Why did the protagonist have nothing to do with one of his comic's main villains?
>>528861658No, it was completely self-contained to Whisper, the Diamond Cutters and the Restoration. You could remove Sonic lore from it entirely and nothing would change.
>>528861758You could say the same thing about Blaze and the Sol Dimension, does that still make it any worse?
>>528861126I'll take Archie insanity over IDW's snoozfest. IDW's pacing, set ups without satisfying payoffs and slow release schedule makes it incredibly boring to read. It's up there with Archie's 20 years later shit, but at least that was only a few issues and not the majority of the comics run.
>>528862147By the same token, you could say the same about Knuckles and Angel Island, or Shadow and the ARK. Sonic was always involved in the series lore, and it never directly stemmed from him (except Metal Sonic), but he always intersected with it and became involved. He made Knuckles a friend, he kept Shadow at bay until he had a change of heart, he gave Blaze faith in her heart and told her she belongs. That's not nothing. With Whisper and Mimic, Sonic wasn't involved at all. Even with Silver he was at least there even if he didn't have any lasting impact on him or form a bond with him.
>>528861658I don't think Sonic ever fought or talked to Mimic in the entire comic. That's crazy to consider.
>>528863402>Sonic created Rainbow Ravine when he ran through it.
>>528863310That's insane if true.
Why is Superman such a twink in the crossover?
>>528863846What I can recall:
>Mimic debuted in the Tangle & Whisper miniseries where he transformed into Sonic, but Sonic himself never appeared.>He then reappeared in the Bad Guys miniseries after he got jailed. No Sonic in that either.>Then he worked for Clutch and infiltrated the Restoration as Duo. Don't remember if he interacted with Sonic there either.>Then his swan song issue. No Sonic involved before he died.If I'm forgetting an issue or interaction, Sonic practically doesn't even know who this dude was besides hearing about him from Tangle and Whisper if they told him.
>>528864159Not my favorite either.
Superman x Amy
Knuckles x Wonder Woman
>>528864528>Mimic just sounds like the insane rambling of a couple lesbianslol
>>528864528He unmasks him as the Phantom Rider but that's it, they don't say anything to eachother
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SHITrio CRAPt WORSTld tries to run away in random directions but they're all straight lines to a brutal DESTRUCTION from SOULnic RADcing KINOworlds
World lost. Crossworlds won.
Mario Kart lost hard today.
>>528867643I can't believe Nintendo got so butthurt to do that
Nintendo turned heel like Cena and it's been a disaster and they aren't gonna stop til they end up like The Rock and his Hollywood Hulk Hogan arc " I want your soul" fucking seriously, dude? this ain't the 90s anymore nobody is impressed by corny ass lines like that in this day and age.
>>528861658Did the whole Black Doom plotline ever have anything to do with Sonic The Hedgehog? Why did the protagonist have nothing to do with one of his series' main villains?
>>528863001It trickles down. Sonic is integral to the Forces war which created the Diamond Cutters. Sonic (and Silver) were the first to befriend Whisper, not Tangle, and cause her to open back up to people. Sonic was also there when the Neo Metal incident started to involve Tangle and brought her into the fray. From there Tangle and Whisper take it, and Silver, who is still an important Whisper adjacent character, was part of it
>>528867513This is unfunny and forced
>>528864159People who draw Sonic characters aren't used to drawing muscles.
>>528868267That's not really it because Wonder Woman is just fine
>>528867513I hate this because I'm homosexual
>>528863001>By the same token, you could say the same about Knuckles and Angel IslandAccording to Sonic 3 concept art, not at all. Turns out, Sonic's the Legendary God of the Echidnas which is why there are murals and statues of him on the island.
>>528868115>Sonic is integral to the Forces warWasn't removing Sonic completely from the situation the whole reason for the war? Sonic just ended it when he was brought back.
>>528868570The point is that the war was a Sonic vs Eggman conflict and it affected everyone on the global scale
>>528868557And Shadow is based on the mural of Sonic, and Sonic and Blaze are like two ends of a cosmic magnet.
What if Shadow said big oof?
>>528867941>Did the whole Black Doom plotline ever have anything to do with Sonic The Hedgehog?Bro, he was there. Didn't you play Shad05?
>>528868625How did Hardlight get away with just blatantly doing that romance shit with Ariem? Because it's one-sided and inconsequential? Can you just randomly have Surge say "yeah Sonic is hot but he's a jerk" and it'll get approved?
Tendie cattle deserve to eat shit kek.
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>>528868593>this girl keeps getting herself in trouble on purpose so I'm forced to save herIf Sonic wasn't supposed to be a paragon, he'd be fully in his right to slap tf outta her
>>528868639What I mean is it stopped being a Sonic vs Eggman conflict and became an Eggman vs the world conflict, and that's when the Diamond Cutters became a thing. So Sonic has nothing to do with them, they're a reaction to Eggman. Am I wrong?
>>528868669>And Shadow is based on the mural of Sonic, and Sonic and Blaze are like two ends of a cosmic magnet.Meaning it all leads back to Sonic. Mimic having absolutely ZERO to do with him is wild. This really is just an officially licensed Deviantart fancomic.
>>528868747Did Nintendo find a new way to fuck over their fans?
>>528831523Krack's Vaginal canal Zone
Shadow the Cane Corso sperm
>>52886874780 dollarydoos LMFAOOOOO
>>528868932Nah, he's just malding that Naintendo keeps on winning.
>>528868732Hardlight have earned a lot of good boy points by making money for Sega, as such they are given more freedom. If the comics weren't a pathetic embarassing flop that nobody buys maybe Ian and Evan wouldn't have to have the evil mandates babysitting them
>>528868312Shit. I was just spitballing.
>>528868792The only "mainstay" from the games who's similarly disconnected from Sonic is Silver, they could have just gone with making him Sonic's distant descendant but for some reason never did. But like he said, at least Sonic was involved in his story.
>>528833794shiruba-san is sutoraito, dumb gaijin piggu
>>528868932Mario Kart World Online. Random puts on a 3 lap track.
New update, Random now includes the Intermission Tracks which are straight and boring. They also outweigh the Lap Tracks by a lot.
>>528868932They basically made an update to say "No, you will play this game in this specific way we want you to play how dare you have your own fun!"
>>528868625Don't think we missed the little Tails x Rouge moment.
>>528869054>The only "mainstay" from the games who's similarly disconnected from Sonic is SilverAnd he ended up hanging with the Diamon Cutters. Fitting.
>>528868932They weren't having fun correctly in Mario Kart World. Thankfully daddy Nintendo has removed choices and now they will play and enjoy the game the way Nintendo wants them to.
>>528868932They just dropped a patch that makes it so that selecting a random track in worldwides will now give you the straight line intermissions instead of the traditional 3 lap variant of a track. Previously, selecting random would give you normal 3-lap courses instead of the interstitial courses no one likes, so people were spamming random.
Random now picks the courses no one likes, so there's no way to avoid them.
Shadow Gens feels unremarkable to me.
It's still a good game but none of its elements stand out to me as a "gold standard" of anything. They are all just "okay".
>>528869169>t. deluded manlet
>>528869238I'm glad I didn't buy this shit.
>>528868086From where I live homosexuality is punishable by death. I do wonder if cute bratty twink and Big buff black guy couple actually exists irl
>>528868115>Sonic was also there when the Neo Metal incident started to involve Tangle and brought her into the frayWhich should've had her joining the blue dude on his adventures. Damn shame.
>>528869182Yep. Silver was the crying lesbian before the crying lesbians but we're all supposed to support him because he's a game character
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Hi guys, I just played Frontiers. I'm curious, does Sega have their old concept artists for environments anymore? When I think of Sonic's world I think of how colorful and surreal everything was in the Genesis games and in Heroes, they went with more realistic stuff sometimes but it was still usually pretty unique and striking, but with Frontiers it's almost like the whole game was made without those Sonic conventions in mind.
>>528869407that doesn't sound very pleasant...
>I do wonder if cute bratty twink and Big buff black guy couple actually exists irlstatistically there's probably a few...
>>528869149>>528869162>>528869212>>528869238>NOOOO NOW I CAN'T SWEAT LIKE THE SWEATIEST SWEATLORD TO EVER SWEATIt's a game for children and you are making it worse for everyone involved by denying them a chance to experience the beautiful handcrafted courses Nintendo spent thousands of hours painstakingly crafting with soul. Everyone else can now have a blast actually enjoyong the game while y'all just piss yourself because you hate change like a pathetic weirdo.
Grow. The. Fuck. Up.
>>528869557Why does Knuckles have so much dirt on his muzzle?
Everyone who bought a Switch 2 deserves this treatment from Nintendo. You are not human, you're cattle and they know it.
>>528868770It started as a Sonic vs Eggman conflict and ended as one too. It affected a lot of people: Tails lost his confidence, the Rookie became a hero, and the Diamond Cutters were formed. The Eggman war is still a Sonic adventure, even if he was kidnapped for the majority of it
>>528869580Too obvious. But it is funny, it's like that retarded Rick and Morty idea of a Street Fighter game where you have to take the bus and walk down the street to get to the fight.
>>528869724>Tails lost his confidenceHe lost it in Unleashed.
>the Rookie became a heroWho?
>the Diamond Cutters were formed.Ugh
>>528869724>It started as a Sonic vs Eggman conflict and ended as one too.And the large middle section where it wasn't is when the Diamond Cutters became a thing, explicitly because it wasn't a Sonic vs Eggman conflict anymore.
IDW should have been about the Rookie
>>528869652it happens sometimes...
>>528869547They did that on purpose same with Forces the stories of both games were supposed to be kinda serious so brightly colored environments would mess with the tone or so they say
>>528869580Fuck off if your game has to rely on player creativity to make it better and you get butthurt enough to force people play a certain way it comes off as pettiness
>>528869913>IDW should have been about the SonicFTFY
>>528869013>If the comics weren't a pathetic embarassing flop that nobody buysNeither Sega nor IDW think of it that way just because you hate it. For IDW, Sonic is a top seller that would only die when the company dies (inb4 fearmongering doomposty bullshit here)
For SEGA, as long as the comic is alive, they get to tell advertisers/investors "hey look, we have an ongoing comic thats lasted for 7+ years as a pillar of our brand and it does well within its home company"
Hardlight's "freedom" has nothing to do with profit. They have to follow the same rules everyone else does.
>>528869054>they could have just gone with making him Sonic's distant descendant but for some reason never didBecause it's not a good idea to confirm that. The reason Silver being from 200 years is good is because it creates a meaningful separation from his time and Sonic's despite how intertwined they are. They don't want to confirm things about Sonic and the cast of the present era that would kill future fun and mystery. They don't want to say "yeah Sonamy is Endgame" because that robs you of having fun with the chase now.
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>>528869918I thought that was a Sonaze pic from the thumbnail for a sec.
>>528869921>both games were supposed to be kinda serious so brightly colored environments would mess with the tone or so they saySonic and co are colorful cartoon characters.
>>528869410You have to ask if Sonic really needed another orbiter. If Amy wasn't shoved into the Restorationbox, would having Tails Amy AND now Tangle following him be good?
>>528869921I'm having a blast enjoying the other 90% of the game you tried to deny players from experienced while you just sit here bitching and moaning. There is nothing creative about trying to turn Mario Kart into the smash meme of fox only no items final destination but instead it's baby daisy only no intermissions 3 laps
>>528870002>For IDW, Sonic is a top seller that would only die when the company diesYou're thinkingbof TMNT. Sonic doesn't sell.
>The reason Silver being from 200 years is good is because it creates a meaningful separation from his time and Sonic's despite how intertwined they are.Intertwined my ass. Dude has nothing to do with anybody, yet they keep on bringing his ass back where it doesn't belong. Heâs just some guy from the future that everyone tolerates.
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>>528870156You're still doing this? How many years has it been?
>>528869913It wasn't allowed to be. Sega said no to rookie involvement, that's why he's just alluded to in Issue 1 and then never again
>>528870074>You have to ask if Sonic really needed another orbiterTo act as the relatable underdog that makes mistakes and learn lessons, allowing Sonic to stay Sonic. Let her be the naive idealist that has to get humbled and learn from it.
>>528870174Damn Blaze is cool.
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>>528869921That sounds like a flimsy justification for making a Sonic game out of generic stuff from an asset store.
>>528870068Kek, I love you anon. Couldn't think of a better rebuttal.
Name the one thing a Sonic ripoff clone would need to do to get you to stay interested in it over Sonic
>>528869238Intermissions are fun though
>>528870265>To act as the relatable underdog that makes mistakes and learn lessonsLike...Tails and Amy should be??
>>528870152>Sonic doesnt sellUnder TMNT, yeah, it does
>Random Silver hateAh so this was a shitpost. You got me anon
>>528870002>The reason Silver being from 200 years is good is because it creates a meaningful separation from his time and Sonic's despite how intertwined they are. Okay, what's meaningful about the separation and how are they intertwined? It seems to me like one is purely downstream of and reactive of the other, there's no real intertwining.
>They don't want to confirm things about Sonic and the cast of the present era that would kill future fun and mystery.That would be a pretty basic and foundational thing to confirm for a side character from the future, wouldn't it? If you're playing a Sonic game because you're invested in Sonic, you'd want to know if the guy from the future is his descendant. But they never touch that, they never even hint at it, so it seems more like a rejected idea than something mysterious that captivates the imagination.
>>528870339Boobies is a cool character.
>>528870339I was staring at your pic for several minutes before I realized it's not a barrel-chested robot with one glowing eye, it's just Lanolin's bell and boobs.
I relate to Shadow because I can't stop looking at women's tits when I'm trying to talk to them.
>>528870563>Under TMNT, yeah, it doesProof?
There will be more rivals, more villains, and more friends, and there's nothing you can do about it
>>528870074Yes, Sonic should have a small army of friends. At least 50 who always follow him around.
>>528871058How bout having them get into cool fights? Transformations. Explosions. Lots of lights and colors. Ass loads of hype.
>>528861126How often did Archie release new comics to read?
I feel like IDW is as fast as a patreon porn artist at drawing.
>>528871058Metal Sonic doesn't look too happy to be between those animals.
>>528871167>How often did Archie release new comics to read?Monthly, but we also had Sonic Universe along with the Sonic Archieves, Selects and Sagas.
>>528870718>what's meaningful about the separationIt allows events in Sonic's time to trickle all the way down to Silver's despite such a large gap, while also not cluing us in to anything about Sonic's direct immediate future because of said gap
>It seems to me like one is purely downstream of and reactive of the other, there's no real intertwining.I mean yeah. That's how it is. That's enough for it to be intertwined by definition. Silver's future doesn't need to affect Sonic's time, but Silver coming back helps Sonic's time too anyway so
>That would be a pretty basic and foundational thing to confirm for a side character from the future, wouldn't it? If he came from ten years later like Trunks does, sure. But he doesn't. He comes from a time that's so far away that it doesn't matter who his ancestor is, it's not at all a relevant question to his story or fight
>If you're playing a Sonic game because you're invested in Sonic, you'd want to know if the guy from the future is his descendant. Yeah you also want to know if Sonic has parents. Thankfully this has never been touched in a game and never will be. Not everything you want to know is somethinf you need to know because your personal desires don't dictate the story
>But they never touch that, they never even hint at it, so it seems more like a rejected idea than something mysterious that captivates the imagination.I don't know why this would be the leap and not "they actively don't want that be a detail to harp on". If they did confirm something, then Silver would barely get to stand on his own because you only see him in reference to his ancestor in the past
>inb4 hurr he already cant stand on his ownSure and that would make this issue worse
We must return to our roots.
>>528862537Fucking incel. You're only saying that because the Archie Comics were made by men. Can't handle a lead female writer? Too bad, it's 2025, not 1600.
>>528871275https://youtu.be/IRsPheErBj8
>>528870718Silver can't be Sonic or Shadow's descendant since Sonic died on the day of disaster and Shadow was sealed away shortly after it. Weirdly Amy is still an option unless Silver is just a different breed of hedgehog which he might be because of his small ears.
>>528871359Simpsonfagging is my least favorite part of interacting on this site
>>528864159Got a reference image?
Modern industry artists like anime whilst also suffering from mental defects.
>>528871381>Sonic died on the day of disasterComplete headcanon btw
Is there any good Silvisper smut out there or are they as lacking as Sonangle
>>528870536The pure shameless autistic soul Sonic once had. Many Sonic "successors" like Rollin Rascal, Penny, and that gay ass rayman lizard are UGLY AS FUCK and lack autismkino and thus I have zero interest. Meanwhile Freedom Planet has autistic deviantart furry soul and Spark has autistic shonenspic soul and thus I did play them.
Basically if your trilogy doesn't end with everyone dead all along except for the rival who reveals this while a picture of him buff and wearing a suit while shaking the president's hand is shown on screen it isn't worth playing.
>>528871275>It allows events in Sonic's time to trickle all the way down to Silver's despite such a large gap, while also not cluing us in to anything about Sonic's direct immediate future because of said gapThat would be meaningful if Silver was the co-protagnist of the series. Even may write him that way, but really he's pretty low on the totem pole, practically and conceptually, and always was, even in 06 and Rivals, so I'm still not seeing how that's meaningful.
>I mean yeah. That's how it is. That's enough for it to be intertwined by definition.No, that's flow. You're thinking of flow. The river isn't intertwined with the ocean, it flows into it. Different concepts. Unless you mean it in some poetic metaphorical sense instead of its actual sense, but you're bringing up definitions, so I think you're just wrong on this one.
>Silver's future doesn't need to affect Sonic's time, but Silver coming back helps Sonic's time too anyway soThen you agree they're not intertwined.
>If he came from ten years later like Trunks does, sure. But he doesn't. He comes from a time that's so far away that it doesn't matter who his ancestor isWow, that is a shockingly unhealthy way to think of your forefathers. Your very existence came from them. Dishonor on you for that.
>Yeah you also want to know if Sonic has parents. We know he does, he's a regular living creature. His creator even made a manga with them.
>Thankfully this has never been touched in a game and never will be.I'm starting to think you hate the idea because you have an intense hatered for the nature of legacy and paying respect to it. Honestly, it I was you, and my legacy lead to you, I might too. So I guess I'll just leave you be with that.
>>528871396Because it's a show about family, right?
>>528871058And each and every one of them will get the vault.
>>528870057Good thing it wasn't shart sonaze.
>>528872180Haha poopie fart butt poop haha btw I'm gay haha
>>528871396That's why Sneed is one of the important memes to come out of /tv/. Simpsoids needed to be buckbroken.
>>528872294blblblpbplpllblblbpblpb
>>528872425Forces more like farces
>>528872425It will always hate the implication that Sonic's pals, and especially Shadow, are just useless because of Forces.
>>528871962>muh meaningfulIs this entire thing gonna be about word choice and semantics? I say it's meaningful. I guess you don't. What now?
>muh flowIf two things are connected in any way, they are intertwined. That's a valid definition of the word.
>muh ancestorsI don't know why this is a sticking point for you but that's not relevant for every character in Sonic. When they want to be relevant, like Knuckles, it is.
>muh legacyI don't know why you made it personal but you say I have a hatred I say you're needlessly fellating it
>muh mangaI knew this was gonna come up when I said that and now I think I know who I'm dealing with. Sonic's "creator" did not make a manga with his parents. Naoto Ohshima made no such manga.
>>528872552Your own pic proves you wrong. The future isn't intertwined with the past, it flows from it.
>>528872383How did Sneed do that?
>>528872549>implicationThat's not the implication. You're just letting yourself get ragebaited. Infinite defeated Sonic. If he can defeat Sonic, he can defeat every other character, which is shown to you when he beats Silver and beats Omega. Sonic is important to larger society, because even though his friends took up the fight, the rest of the world lost an important beacon of hope and inspiration in a time of crisis
>>528872552>If two things are connected in any way, they are intertwinedThen everything is intertwined with everything else since we're connected by a universe and there's no point in having the word.
>Defeated by the power of friendship
How do people like Gabs feel about Sonaze becoming more popular than Silvaze on social media in recent years?
>>528872817Can anyone break down to me what makes this outfit so hot? Almost hotter than a naked body? In particular the panty-garter-leggings combo, why is that so appealing?
>>528872817her left boob is bigger than the right one
>>528872861He can hang out with Metal Overlord
>>528872929Like any reasonable well-adjusted individual they go about their day posting their own art and fun creations. In the war of Sonaze vs Silvaze, Sonaze has historically always been the attacker, especially since a core facet of Sonaze almost always usually involves tearing down Amy in some way
>>528873075holy unnecessary additions
>>528873075Imageboard culture of just aimlessly and autistically posting random images instead of responding to the current conversation or trying to start a new one is so cancer.
>>528873072Sounds like you have a victim mentality.
Reminder that Tangle/Whisper/Surge/Kit no longer revolve around their baggage and are perfectly game ready characters now. This was the true goal
>>528873237Yes I'm sure it would sound like that from the attacker's perspective
>>528873185You sounds pressed, sweaty. What if he didn't want to join your little pow-wow?
>>528871870Mixing rac- I mean mixing life forms is horrifying
>>528873259>Tangle/WhisperSure
>Surge/KitAbsolutely not. Kit is manipulating things and hasn't been freed up yet
>>528873180I like some of the additions, I think the cape and revolver (and holster) are cool modernizations on his western thing he has going on
have you ever wondered what will we be doing after idw ocs appear in a jp-made game
>>528873334Then he could say "I think this design is cool because it does XYZ" instead of just shitting out the image with no spoken contribution. That's why I said trying to start a new one is a valid option
>>528872981>her left boob is bigger than the right oneThat's normal, retard.
>>528873379>Kit is manipulating thingsAnswered this before in another thread, they probably not going to make him a real villain. This will be Surge and Kit's comedic relief dynamic. He causes problems, Surge saves the days more or less. She shouldn't have a problem with it either when she finds out since the end result in the eyes of people would still be the same.
>>528873509that's a drawing and a blobian, i don't want them normal
>>528873072>Like any reasonable well-adjusted individual they go about their day posting their own art and fun creationsMy ass it'd go that way. The freak would throw a fit as they all do.
>still hasn't been topped in over twenty years
>>528873072Like to think of it more as a debate rather than a war.
>>528873075g*d he's so fucking cool. if he was the sniper in IDW instead of Whisper the fight against Mimic would've been kino.
>>528873259>are perfectly game ready characters now. This was the true goalGame ready for what? They suck now.
>>528873561>they probably not going to make him a real villain. I don't know how you see it this way. By making him a sinister manipulative conniving Jew you make him more villainous than Surge and an active problem.
>This will be Surge and Kit's comedic relief dynamic. He causes problems, Surge saves the days more or less. It is not at all being framed that way.
>She shouldn't have a problem with it either when she finds out since the end result in the eyes of people would still be the same.I highly disagree, if that happened then whoever was writing didn't give a shit about Surge. Surge would feel betrayed that Kit was going behind her back, even if it was to help her, because it violates the loyalty and trust they're supposed to have, since if they don't have each other, they have no one. Surge has spent her whole time fighting to not be manipulated or work under people and Kit is undermining that by doing what he's doing. If Surge is written to shrug this off and not handle it with the weight it deserves as a big deal, then it'll be almost as bad as Issue 79.
>>528873618CHADow is peak Sonic
>>528873075Bro should be Sonic's Jango Fett https://youtu.be/EZx4iZ5PV9c
>>528873668Blaze ships operate on vibes, but Sonamy is explicit about how its characters feel
I legitimately don't understand people that think Sonic should have a love interest
>>528873072That must be why they're winning.
>>528873675>the fight against Mimic would've been kino.it would literally be goofy antics because he's a clumsy fool. He'd be lucky to even get anything done. His competency track record is actually worse than Whisper's
>>528873860Sonic Team does, why can't we?
>>528873698>Game ready for what?Game ready as in if or when they get introduced to console games, the average consumer who doesn't care about IDW doesn't have to know about all their past Mimic or Starline baggage because it's not integral to their current characters or motivations anymore. Even the new thing with Kit is fairly surface level now, all you need to know is that Surge wants to look like a better hero than Sonic and that Kit causes problems to accomplish that. No drama, no crying, it's done. They have achieved a status quo to return to after a self contained story is done.
>>528873892That is actually so fucking insane. Sonaze had a year headstart on Silvaze and yet Sonaze didn't even develop or take off until it was an active response of hate and spite to 06 and Silvaze. Holy shit, Sonaze has literally never been out of love since its inception. Amazing find
>>528873798Shonen Pulp Adventure is the way to go for Sonic, yes. Cool fights, transformations, and ass loads of hype. Only dweebs like Ian hate it.
>>528873379Kit will be freed up in that he will be freed from his mortal body and sent to hell for being an abusive incel which will then result in Surge being freed up and able to be lovers with Amy.
>>528873930But Sonic does not have a love interest (not since SatAM and Archie). Sonic is THE love interest for some characters.
>>528873930You know what I meant dude
>>528873998Kit is literally Megamind Hal, thinking he's doing something nice while actually being a manipulative little shit. He deserves what's coming to him
>>528873936>They have achieved a status quo to return to after a self contained story is done.Sure, but what about gameplay? Are they gonna be fun to play? Or are they just filler for whatever spin-off and if so, why even?
>>528873902>it would literally be goofy anticsYep it's kino
>>528874064Nope, this is pure fucking vibes. This isn't Amy saying she loves Sonic or Elise kissing him
>>528873985You're not helping Silvaze fans look sane or reasonable, Gabs.
>>528874115Show don't tell.
Any Sonic/Fiona fapfics set around the in-universe relationship time?
REMINDER that IDW panders to Sonic Twitter and Sonic Twitter loves Surgamy. Kit is DOOMED.
>>528873902>it would literally be goofy antics because he's a clumsy fool. He'd be lucky to even get anything done. His competency track record is actually worse than Whisper'sBecause Superstars is squarely within the goofy kiddy setting and not something like SA2 where he'd be portrayed more seriously. 00s culture would've ensured he'd be this cool mercenary.
>>528874115Feelings are vibes.
>This isn't Amy saying she loves Sonic or Elise kissing himIt's something deeper in my opinion but we don't have to agree.
>>528874206>Sonic Twitter loves SurgamyWhy are they so fucking lame and gay? It's like they're allergic to the actual cool stuff and yearn for the lame shit.
>>528874328I don't think that's a guarantee. Fang is by nature supposed to be a goofy character, so already that's part of his vision and discarding that needs to be argued. Beyond that, when the Chaotix got modernized despite being sandwiched in the Edgehog era, they remained comedic. So I don't think Fang automatically becomes this type of sniper you want him to be from Archie. The right way to modernize him is him being over his head.
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>>528873787>even if it was to help her, because it violates the loyalty and trustThat sounds like trying to extrapolate their dynamic for the sake of needless OOC drama. Something this comic does not need more of. Surge trusts Kit to do what's good for her because he's preprogrammed to serve her best interests at all times. She doesn't care about others besides him so him causing problems to give her a heroic outcome is something she should understand. She might be pissed that he didn't tell her the plan, but she's not the one being manipulated, other people are. Besides, it gives them a working dynamic that people can point to and recognize their thing. Not everything needs to be turned into some long drawn out drama.
>>528874076Tangle and Whisper were already designed with gameplay in mind. Tangle is basically Sonic, but with grapple hook tail/spiderman attributes. Whisper is just the Forces avatar gameplay, but she can use every wisp without manually switching weapon. Surge has electricity powers, Kit has water powers, their gameplay can be offshoots of Shadow and Blaze.
>>528873985I didn't get turned on to Sonaze until recently but it's just because I never payed any attention to Rush until recently, it's not because I'm out to get you
>>528874378It's maybe understandable why Blaze would like Sonic but I see no reason why Sonic would reciprocate with Blaze. Usually a reason I see is
>she's on his level!And to me that means Sonaze is on the same tier as Sonurge
>>528873618One of the most satisfying things ever was seeing the critical reception and just the reception of the general public to Sonic 3 (which is basically just SA2: The Movie).
For so many years Anti-Sonicfags and Classic-only pedos tried to tell me that SA2's plot was something only a handful of autists would like and they were proven wrong forever.
>>528874378Sonic Rush should've been a console game. Maybe SA3. https://youtu.be/knIyYgUPuFc
>>528874452>The right way to modernize him is him being over his headNo, bro. You'd want the merc to be cool because thats what hot. Staying true to his roots is just gonna make boys think he's a lame ass. Never think like a nerd with these characters because if you do, they turn out lame as shit because nerds are toothless technical for their own good and hate anything fun and cool.
>>528873259I feel like IDW does a very good job of creating characters that have easily gamified abilities.
I just don't expect Sonic Team to make a game ability other than "Character moves really fast in a world with a 5 foot render distance."
>>528874206Sonurge is several times bigger than surgamy on twitter
My OC will be canon and then people will draw porn of her
>>528874805With gooner porn chuds. The IDW fanbase which the staff care about like Surgamy.
>>528874486>That sounds like trying to extrapolate their dynamic for the sake of needless OOC drama. Something this comic does not need more of. >Not everything needs to be turned into some long drawn out drama.Drama, yes. Ooc, no. I'm speaking within the vision of the comic, and as we both know this comic loves doing this. In this case though I'm not inclined to call it bad because I think it has better potential than Whisper's stuff
>Surge trusts Kit to do what's good for her because he's preprogrammed to serve her best interests at all times. She doesn't care about others besides him so him causing problems to give her a heroic outcome is something she should understand. So now you're just dictating how she should feel instead of taking her history and personality into account.
>She might be pissed that he didn't tell her the plan, but she's not the one being manipulated, other people are. Yes she is. Artificial problems undermines her efforts.
>Besides, it gives them a working dynamic that people can point to and recognize their thing.We already know what their dynamic and thing is. Kit's manipulation turns that on its head. And it makes more sense to address that as another failing of their relationship, because Sonic and Tails don't keep things from each other that way
>>528874780>I just don't expect Sonic Team to make a game abilityThat's why Tangle and Whisper are just already existing game abilities. Forces/Colors wisps and the tether shit from Sonic Boom. Except I'd expect Tangle to be able to latch onto anything
>>528874917 Hmm. You are right. If you keep it just to the accounts that regularly engage with the comic and writers, Surgeamy is bigger. What an interesting shift.
>>528874652I'm not interested in a skinwalker wearing Fang as a costume. I'm interested in Fang. If you want a cool badass mercenary then there are other characters who have done that and who can do that now.
>>528872549Shadow was MIA when Eggman took over.
>>528874420Most of them are literal groomed children mixed in with said groomers who base their entire identity off of lesbian anime porn
>>528872549shadow has no skin in the game when it comes to eggman
>>528831121>is /pol/, /x/ and /out/ personified>sounds like a bootleg Cree Summers>is a schizo to absolutely comical effect but always right>the funniest character in the entire franchise, even more than Omega>not a lesbian, crybaby, emotional mess, bitch, etc.>YOU JUST KNOW the sex would be incredible>one of the sexier girls even without a bustShe is best girl, and they had to vault her because they knew she was too powerful.
>>528874917All this tells me is that the majority of male Surge ship viewers want Sonurge and that's terrifying
>>528872549>>528875102Shadow is not allowed to do anything that makes him outshine Sonic unless Shadow himself is the star of the game. Ah and he is used as a punching bag if they want to hype a new character / plot device
>>528875034>Except I'd expect Tangle to be able to latch onto anythingYeah, like my-
Everyone is giving up on Silver and thus giving up on Silvaze.
>>528874530>Anti-Sonicfags and Classic-only pedos tried to tell me that SA2's plot was something only a handful of autists would like and they were proven wrong forever.Millenial nerds are fags, yes. They also hate anime with a passion.
>>528875272silvaze only works if you dismiss Rush and Rivals. but you end up with uwuver as a side effect.
>>528875076>I'm not interested in a skinwalker wearing Fang as a costumeK thats you. But this is about what's hot and will make kids clamoring for more. And making your merc a joke ain't it. Simple as.
>>528875315When Sonic 3 came out, Moviebob made a video calling it garbage, then he uploaded a compilation of him reviewing every Sonic cartoon.
Moviebob is a Millenial. Naturally he said Sonic X is horrible and SatAM is the only good Sonic cartoon.
>>528875240>>528875272I knew people would give up on Silver as soon as he lost. This is what happens when you proper a character up with powerfaggotry and not personality.
>>528875315I am a Millennial nerd anon..
But you are right. It's usually people from my generation who are like that.
>>528875138>Most of them are literal groomed children mixed in with said groomers who base their entire identity off of lesbian anime pornSo what's gonna happen when the culture shifts to a point where all these guys are considered the lame ass freaks nobody wants to be around?
>>528875196Sure thing Shadowtard, go back to playing with your toys the adults are talking
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>>528875315I am a zoomer nerd and I prefer SatAM over X. but I think Movie 3 and SA2 are good
>>528875196problem with having the series always having sonic ultimately resolving every problem by himself while also trying to have characters who are supposed to be his equals but realistically only show up to get beat by him or the current villain
>>528875417Great idea. we should also make sonic a vulnerable relatable family kid since that'll sell hot and make kids clamor for more! Konichiwaaa?
>>528875436They didn't respect Silver's powers so it's not really a good argument against his powerlevelfagging
>>528875429>Naturally he said Sonic X is horrible and SatAM is the only good Sonic cartoon.Listening to millenials is what created the Meta Era. They were listening to out of touch losers who had ZERO idea what actual kids liked and made Sonic a laughing stock.
>>528875417You're just asking for the reverse of Silver's uwufication with Fang.
>>528875429>SatAM is the only good Sonic cartoonI'm surprised. I thought he just hated all of Sonic. I thought Moviebob was a hardcore SNESfag who still hated Sonic 'till this day.
>>528875587I'm 22 and I want to fuck Sally. Never watched Satam or read Archie.
>>528875019>So now you're just dictating how she should feel instead of taking her history and personality into account.No??? She doesn't care about being a real do-gooder. She just wants the fame and glory that comes with it, especially if it usurps Sonic in the moment.
>better potential than Whisper's stuffPotential with writers that are incapable of reaching it. Idwfags say that about everything is comic has had to offer and not once did any of it reach that in it's eight year span. If they extrapolate this, it's going to turn into drama that will make everyone roll their eyes and groan and you know it.
>Yes she is. Artificial problems undermines her efforts.What's the difference between Kit starting a fire and some rando doing it? Neither of them are actually good people to begin with.
>We already know what their dynamic and thing is.Being a clone of Sonic and Tails isn't enough to differentiate them especially when the game cast already has enough rivals that are clones of sonic and cast dynamics that replicate that of him and Tails. She should still find out what Kit is doing and get a little pissed, but after that it can still continue as their dynamic now with her being aware. It would also give them an excuse to be around and still have them teeter on the edge of being antagonists rather than outright redeemed.
>>528875436>This is what happens when you proper a character up with powerfaggotry and not personality.Powerfaggotry my ass. His game was near unplayable and he was the worst character.
>>528875663>we should also make sonic a vulnerable relatable family kid since that'll sell hot and make kids clamor for more!Kids don't like that shit. Old fucks think kids like that shit. Kids wanna see the cool guy do the cool things and look cool as fuck doing it.
>>528875884god they look so bad next to Jet
Silverfags desparately want Silver to be Sonic or Shadow, but he has none of the personality or aura to back it up and on top of that several fraud moments.
>BUT BUT HE HAS POTENTIAL
Retards keep forcing him cause they think they're owed something after 06. Silver has nothing that actually makes him entertaining
>>528875240Nakamura created this guy to stand next to Sonic and Shadow, yet the comics are having him struggle against a dude with a knife who immediately jobbed to two lesbians and are all weaker than Sonic and Shadow. Does Sega really not care?
>>528875884>ugh, a colorful bunch
>>528875752Same. I watched satam but archie art made her hot even tho i didnt read it
Given how disconnected Riders is from everything else to the point that Sonic doesn't even use his actual speed, why should we believe the Rogues would ONLY use their boards in a standard Sonic setting. Sonic wasn't running, so why can't the Rogues just fly like actual birds. Rouge and Tails can fly, and the latter isn't even an animal capable of flight.
>>528876024I think the chicken looks fine. Colorful, sonic-y enough, but the owl looks straight up like a tumblr oc from a different series
>>528875526Oh they just kill themselves and no more of them are made. Same thing as China when the Emperor was overthrown and the Eunuchs lost all their power and were banished.
>>528876072>Does Sega really not care?Sega has not cared about Nakamura's poochie for decades.
>Nakamura created this guy to stand next to Sonic and ShadowSee you think you're owed something when he hasn't stood next to them in such a way since. Its been basically 20 years, its time to let go. They aren't giving him a spinoff
>>528876069>Silver has nothing that actually makes him entertainingSonic and Shadow are enough for the hype DBZ moments. You don't have them forcing a trio into Goku and Vegeta. It's just them two for decades. Broly doesn't count.
>>528876069No one gives him good fights.
No one gives him chemistry with other characters.
No one gives us a glimpse of his future and the people who live there.
No one wants to put him in TV shows or movies.
No one wants to write him in-character.
Potential? He's not allowed to even show a crumb of that.
>>528875830>She doesn't care about being a real do-gooder.Kit thinks she does.
>idw writers badCan't argue that, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna hate an idea before an execution
>What's the difference between Kit starting a fire and some rando doing it?Kit starting a fire means Surge's efforts aren't as legitimate as she thinks they are. She's literally being duped.
>Being a clone of Sonic and Tails isn't enough to differentiate them especially when the game cast already has enough rivals that are clones of sonic and cast dynamics that replicate that of him and Tails. It was enough as soon as they got created because the idea was them having a codependency issue where they can't function without the other. Nobody else has a toxic relationship like that in the series.
>She should still find out what Kit is doing and get a little pissed, but after that it can still continue as their dynamic now with her being aware.I don't think Surge should take a betrayal like that lying down. Kit knows more about their situation and tragedy more than anyone, he knows it firsthand, and still he decides to go above her head and behind her back. That makes her a puppet, even if he didn't think so or realize that, which she doesn't want to be.
>It would also give them an excuse to be around They never needed an "excuse" to be around. They hate Sonic and Tails and want to see them dead.
>and still have them teeter on the edge of being antagonists rather than outright redeemed.Making characters with their backstories and then saying they should never be redeemed is one of the dumbest things Ian has ever said/did. I've come to terms with accepting that they can be redeemed or at least be anti-heroes or something.
>>528875663IDW is a good argument against his powerlevelfagging because its canon and he's consistently frail and incompetent. Because of IDW we can say:
>Silver flies slower than people falling and can't keep up with Sonic>He's clumsy>He doesn't know how to control his powers>He can't handle things coming at him from multiple directions>He's stupid in generaland many more weaknesses.
>>528876312>so why can't the Rogues just fly like actual birdsConcept art had him with wing hands.
>>528876312>why should we believe the Rogues would ONLY use their boards in a standard Sonic settingBecause it defines who they are. Their boards are their identity and connect them to their heritage. Also, being a bird doesn't mean you can just fly.
Riders has a subtext theme that the Rogues have mastery of the air Sonic can never have "because they are birds and have wings", but this doesn't literally mean they fly, because... they never do, and they never will. That's not baked into their design in anyway. They "fly" with their boards, a motif that they have the most connection to
>>528876606Even now, Broly or Trunks aren't really a "trio" with Goku and Vegeta. Sonic and Shadow are where the hedgehog alliances peaked.
>>528876606>You don't have them forcing a trio into Goku and Vegeta. It's just them two for decades. Broly doesn't count.where have you been? When Trunks came out all the marketing was him standing as the third to Goku and Vegeta. Then in Buu Saga when Gohan grew up he was the "third". It wasn't until Super that this was discarded, until this weird new thing they're doing with Broly and Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo
>>528876771It's sad how at least 3 of those would be fixed if Sega gave a shit considering how much he shows up. Forces had him right there and they didn't do anything memorable with him but that one dub line
Silver will always stick out like a sore thumb because his design alone screams "I'm important" but he is never given that exposure. He can't work as a character unless the "Hedgehog Trio" becomes a reality again.
>>528876945>because its canonIt's not, bro. It's a licensed comic. They're never canon.
>>528876984>Riders has a subtext themeBro, get the fuck outta here with that shit. You're thinking like a nerd with his thumb up his ass. The boards worked for the racing game. Having them actually fly for real would be cooler.
whisper will love him no matter what
>>528876771He can't have any of those things. His place is as the lonely baby that doesn't know what he's doing.
>>528877230Their character design doesn't serve flight so it would look stupid. Hoverboards are cool as fuck already so I don't need your opinion on what's cool.
>>528877087>When Trunks came out all the marketing was him standing as the third to Goku and Vegeta.And that ended with the Cell Saga.
>Then in Buu Saga when Gohan grew up he was the "third".And look how that turned out. Buu Saga ended with Goku and Vegeta being THE duo of Dragon Ball, complete with fusion twice.
>>528877249In a good timeline, this paring would be the main whisper pairing, to bad how are we stuck on the progressive lesbian timeline.
>>528877346>Buu Saga ended with Goku and Vegeta being THE duo of Dragon Ball, complete with fusion twice.Uh, no it didn't. Buu Saga ended with Goku being directly above Vegeta, because despite the attempts at the duo stuff with fusion and working together, Goku was explicitly above Vegeta with Super Saiyan 3 and the one to finish the battle with the spirit bomb, and then move on from Vegeta to train Uub.
Goku and Vegeta were not really being shilled as a duo until GT and Super.
>>528874520Her sharp looks, grace, and fire powers catch his eye right from the beginning. There's no denying Blaze is pretty (by Sonic character standards anyway) and it's fair that Sonic has some form of immediate natural attraction to her. What draws him in first is her power and precision. She's fast, fierce, and controlled, which immediately excites Sonic's thrill-seeking nature. She doesn't fawn over him, hate him, fear him, or try to impress him. She stands tall with a dignity and self-assurance that's rare and appealing to him. She's "on his level" from the start in speed and strength, sure, but also in conviction. There's a calm discipline in how she acts, a fire that's fully in control, and to Sonic that kind of inner mastery is mysterious, and magnetic. She pushes him without even trying and that makes Sonic want to race her, and to know her. He lives for the chase, for the challenge, and Blaze presents herself as both. That's all very significant. But, it's not long before that outer strength reveals something more, something Sonic has always had trouble ignoring. A troubled heart. A quiet kind of pain. Blaze carries herself with nobility and purpose, but also with a visible loneliness. She's someone who's convinced she has to bear the weight of the world alone. That's what hits Sonic the hardest. He sees through the walls she's built, recognizes how isolated she's become by duty and fear, and that's when it becomes most personal. Sonic doesn't just want to fight alongside her, he wants to reach her. He's always going to be irreverent in his own way, but with Blaze he's always offering emotional presence, even when she makes it hard, and it's clear why that is.
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>>528877414Do Silvisper fans not care about Silvaze and Blaze and Silver's relationship with Blaze?
>>528877087>until this weird new thing they're doing with Broly and Beast Gohan and Orange PiccoloWhere have YOU been, bro? Daima's out and none of that shit matters anymore. Back to Goku and Vegeta, and a small surprise from the past.
>>528877058This makes me smile
>>528877414Nah, we're in the good timeline. We don't need a ship that only ever existed because of Uwuver
>>528877249This is just getting sad. Silver needs to find a bitch in his future instead of going after lesbians in the past.
>>528877472When Blaze fight like hell in Dead Line to push him away, he fights back, refusing to let her pain carry on in silence. And after they defeat the Egg Salamander and restore balance, she tries again, softer this time, to push Sonic away again, this time for good. She says she wants to leave how she came, as a stranger. But she doesn't really. And he does't let her. He doesn't let her go without leaving her with warmth, hope, and a promise that they will be together again, that they belong together. Because to Sonic, her heart... Brave, guarded, and aching... is too beautiful to be left in silence. He admires her fire, it warms his soul, and he wants to keep it alive.
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Nicole's rapper name would be Big Floppa
Yes this sounded better in my head
>>528877441>Buu Saga ended with Goku being directly above VegetaHe always is. Like how Sonic's still stronger than Shadow no matter what.
>>528876836>Can't argue that, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna hate an idea before an executionI am because we've already have had years of seeing what they can come up with and it's not gotten better. It's just pattern recognition at this point.
>Kit starting a fire means Surge's efforts aren't as legitimate as she thinks they are.Fucking how? It would be manipulation if Kit was going around town to get people involve with the plan and they pretend to be in danger to serve a purpose and everyone knows except her, but that's not what's happening. He puts people into real danger. It's effectively the same thing as if a rando did it.
>Kit knows more about their situation and tragedy more than anyone, he knows it firsthandYou act like he was a bystander and not someone who experienced the same thing. Surge knowing him would understand where it's coming from. She would be pissed, but she's not completely retarded.
>They hate Sonic and Tails and want to see them dead.Yeah, but they don't go out of their way to harm them anymore, you just see them giving the both of em the stink eye. They've mellowed out since gaining new motives, they're not the characters anymore that just come out of knowhere to challenge them. They challenge them by challenging their roles in the world now by trying to look better than them, better than the originals. Which is why the new "thing" works better for why they'd be around chilling like in the Christmas art. They're not the same as before anymore.
>at least be anti-heroes or somethingDoes this concept not frame them as anti-heroes to you? Teetering on the edge of being antagonists is exactly what anti-heroes are and would make them a unique variety compared to Shadow
I originally thought Evan was going to write the climax to Mimic since Whisper is her character, but when I found out it was being written by Ian I knew Silver was going to be fucked.
>>528877213The hedgehog trio doesn't fucking work because Silver isn't equal to or even has a dynamic with Sonic and Shadow. There's fucking nothing there.
>>528877486Nobody cares about Blaze outside of Blazefags. Even Silvazefags are usually femcels that use Bland the Cat as their literally me self-insert to fuck Silver (who is also OOC uwuver). Even Sega doesn't give a fuck about her.
>>528876836Is this from the new comic? Man they really ruined Kit too.
>>528877472>Her sharp looks, grace, and fire powers catch his eye right from the beginning. There's no denying Blaze is pretty (by Sonic character standards anyway) and it's fair that Sonic has some form of immediate natural attraction to her.Dude what is this fanfic? Sonic never displays attraction. He will make it known. He whistles at Lumina and he tells Elise she has a nice smile. I don't know if he's ever done anything like those for Amy in the games but Sonic has certainly never expressed attraction to Blaze.
>>528877637This is exactly what I was saying. It's all fanfic to push this idea of Sonic that isn't there. Sonic's concern about Blaze was the mystery that she got up in his face and then disappeared, and then fought him. He has never expressed this excitement people are talking about, he cared about Eggman Nega. Sonic is the one who had an impact on Blaze. Like Elise, this is why I say it isn't too bad to say maybe Blaze likes Sonic, but it is not at all reciprocated because Blaze is just another person Sonic helps.
>>528877684Whisper isn't her character. She just designed her. The idea for Whisper is created by Ian.
>>528877693Maybe you don't think so, but officially, Silver is said to be equal
>>528877414Because shipping gamecharas with OCs has always turned out SO well.
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>>528877058Umm she's happy now actually.
>>528877869>officially, Silver is said to be equalThey can say that but he's never shown to be equal, he's only shown to be incompetent.
>>528877808That's literally just what happens in Rush with the vibes put into words.
>>528877869I wouldn't have guessed since Evan treats Whisper like her baby.
>>528877901I think it's better that non canon comics do that so that it remains forgotten forever instead of adding fuel to official characters.
Tails getting with Mina? Forgettable. Fanfiction bait at best. Tails getting with Amy? Absolute fucking disaster. Annoying spam for decades. Unavoidable in discourse. Team Dark delusion tier.
>>528877963Not sure if you played the games Silver is from but in his first 3 games he's on par with them and in Generations he is in the same boat as Shadow so
Read this to transform into Whisper immediately
>>528878048Metal stomps him easily.
>>528878053Wait, what does this spoiler saUUUUUUUUUUU
>>528878113>Sonic ReboundWhat did you think of the newest episode?
>>528878053UUUUUUUU WHY DID I DO THIS UUUUU STUPID WISPS WHERE IS THAT BITCH TANGLE I NEED MY DINNER NOW GO FIND HER UUUUUUUUUUU
>>528877486Silver unironically had a better, more convincing dynamic with Whisper than he ever has with Blaze. And that's because Whisper is allowed to fuck up along with him and stay on his level. Blaze on the other hand is always treated like his mentor, their conversations are always so stilted and polite in a manner that goes both ways. When he talks to her, he replicates her polite manner of speaking kind of like the way you'd speak to a teacher rather than a colleague you're close with. With any other characters, he's way more casual and it shows.
>>528877693>Silver isn't equal to or even has a dynamic with Sonic and Shadow.He also isn't fast like them. Why have a trio of 2 guys that do similar things and 1 dude who does something completely different. It's not gonna look good when these 2 guys are speeding to the bad guy and he's just back there throwing shit.
>>528877901Eh... it worked for Sally in archie in the end.
>>528878053why would you do this to me
>>528878270>Sega literally stepped in to pry her away from Sonic and Ian coped by in-universe mindfucking her sexuality
>>528878270>Assassinated both characters with romance drama.Not really...
>>528878339>Ian coped by in-universe mindfucking her sexuality
>>528878270She's OOC as fuck in Archie because Ken whored her out and Ian shipped her with Sonic so hard that people look at you funny when you tell them that Sonic SatAM had 0 romance drama in it.
>>528877683>we've already have had years of seeing what they can come up with and it's not gotten betterI don't really see this situation as exactly the same as previous ones, but agree to disagree
>It would be manipulation if Kit was going around town to get people involve with the plan and they pretend to be in danger to serve a purpose and everyone knows except her, but that's not what's happening.By leaving Surge out of the loop, he's manipulating her. Why hide this plan from Surge at all? If she agreed with it he wouldn't have to, but since he recognizes she actually wants to help people, he knows he's going against her and has to lie by omission.
>He puts people into real danger. It's effectively the same thing as if a rando did it.It doesn't because that literally means Kit would be the villain.
>Surge knowing him would understand where it's coming from. She would be pissed, but she's not completely retarded.Surge knows he has to help her, but hiding things from her isn't helping her, it's undermining her real efforts
>They challenge them by challenging their roles in the world now by trying to look better than them, better than the originals.Which would be fine if it was just that, but now Kit is creating this additional layer.
>Does this concept not frame them as anti-heroes to you?I actually really like Surge's end of the concept, because she decides she's in it for fame and attention to take away from Sonic's. That's actually fun and unique and fresh and gives her a decent reason to do heroic. But Kit isn't an anti-hero, he's not on the same page, he's just a villain plotting and hatching a scheme
>>528878053UUUUUUU hey boobies
>>528878112Cool headcanon
>>528878238Silver was a fanboy simp to Whisper. That's a good relationship for people?
>>528878442Honest question. Why is Ian like this?
I hated Sonally myself but if he wanted to write around Sega's demands then there are so many alternatives to taking an obviously straight character and making them gay.
>>528878493SatAM is just considered Archie but a cartoon instead of a comic. Most people don't actually know that they're different.
>>528878460This was funny and made me smile
>>528878048That was two decades ago when he was shiny and new. His current depictions have him way beneath them and most other characters.
>>528878637Brave and bold new choice chud. In case you didnt know comics are pretty famous for queer progress
>>528878667>SatAM is considered knockoff SatAMNice cope Archiefag.
>>528878706No they dont because nobody else fights anymore. Silver loses to Infinite... like everyone else does. Ok? Who else is he way beneath? He's not in any games to say he's beneath anyone
>>528878339God I forgot. Glad the comic ended right before they canonized Sallicole.
>>528878667>Most people don't actually know that they're different.Like Sally being a ho.
>>528878637Ian didn't want her shipped with another male even in fanon. So he made her a lesbian to keep her purity. He also said that Sonic and Sally DID date in the past but broke up. So he sneaked it in there regardless, showing that Sally only got with one man and that was Sonic to keep the sanctity of Sonally alive. The guy is a massive shipper. Don't believe him trying to make a shtick where he acts like he's above it.
>>528873075Why can't Evan make Silver cool?
>>528878838Sally being a ho is almost consistent. She would kiss lots of guys and wasn't locked to Sonic, but it wasn't near the scale of what Penders did with her.
>>528878778That post wasn't a compliment.
>>528877808You're really overreliant on explicitness to the point where you're conflating analysis with fanfiction. Your post feels more like a knee jerk reaction to your immediate feeling to reject the position of the "enemy" in your "war" by any means necessary. Sonic doesn't always have to say when he's attracted to someone, that's reductive, and he doesn't have to say it for us to know it if you pay attention to him. Emotional connection and admiration can be non-verbal, especially with more serious, complex characters like Blaze. He shows it in what he does, and how he does it. Your false binary idea that either it's flirtation like with Lumina/Elise, or it's nothing doesn't just dismiss the subtlety in their dynamic, it ignores the possibility of more subtle dynamics in fiction, unless they're spelled out to you explicitly by the author, which kinda defeats the point. A lot of storytelling mediums rely on "show, donât tell", and Sonic games are no exception, they typically lean toward symbolic interaction rather than heavy exposition. And that interpretable artistic intent is just as important as written canon.
>>528878963Whos the tiger
>>528878825That doesn't even matter. It's considered canon to the fandom. Now you see more pictures of Sally with Nicole than Sonic.
>>528878852>He also said that Sonic and Sally DID date in the past but broke up.I'm guessing this must have been said in bumblekast since there is absolutely no way this would get published with Sonic Team paying attention to the comic
>>528876069>Silver has potential>Silver is coolYeah no, Silver is... Very not that
>>528878583Metal does stomp him easily in Rivals 2 though. He's faster, stronger, smarter, and can copy his powers.
>>528878987Yes yes and magically only Sonic Rush is the only game in the series to ever do anything like this and try anything this deep and complex for "serious complex character" like Blaze. These magically subtleties that only Sonazefags see are totally there just for Blaze.
You have legitimately made me believe Sonadow makes more sense than Sonaze. All the shit you want Sonic to feel for Blaze, like his fascination or excitement, are things he does with Shadow, not Blaze.
>>528879083>word of god!TV Tropes did more harm than good.
>>528878987put the dictionary down and keep your hands where we can see them
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>>528878852Could've used the opportunity of a reboot to revert her to her SatAM personality but nah. Just more of the same but worse because now she's boring. Should've kept the Rouge eyes.
>>528879102Why is Shadow's son like that?
>>528879106No, he doesn't. Any race with Silver and Metal in Rivals 2 doesn't have clear victors. I know this because I actually analyzed those interactions. You can't toss that out there like that's just something that happened in the game
>>528879102Didn't Evan draw this?
>>528879234Single motherhood.
>>528878238>Whisper is allowed to fuck up along with him and stay on his level.No she's not. She was made to be another nanny for him because he's an inexperienced kid that doesn't know what he's doing while she's a professional mercenary.
>>528878520>It doesn't because that literally means Kit would be the villain.>he's just a villain plotting and hatching a schemeI'm starting to see why you can't understand what I'm saying. You're too focused on trying to make Kit out to be a villain, but he's not doing any of this out true malice. He's not doing this because he actually wants to harm townsfolk and put them in danger for his own satisfaction of seeing people get hurt. He doesn't even have any real motivations on his own to even begin wanting to hurt people if it has nothing to do with what Surge wants.
>he knows he's going against her and has to lie by omission.>Surge knows he has to help her, but hiding things from her isn't helping herThis is the point where he learns a lesson and it turns into a misunderstanding rather than some dramatic breakup. He ASSUMES she actually wants to help people, this would be the point where she makes it clear what she actually wants, reprimands him and then they vow to tell each other everything from here on out instead of breaking down, crying and going "uuuuuu you're just like my other abusers, uuuu im being manipulated by my brother i cant believe he would do this, if i cant trust you, i cant trust anyone" and doing the same dogshit Whisper did, except it'd be even more retarded because Kit wasn't doing this out any real ill feelings or real villainy and Surge should know where this behavior comes from.
>>528879064I feel like half of this is actually due to younger fans and game fans outnumbering Archie fans in grand total.
Game fans that did not consume Archie will likely find the idea of Sonic in an opposites attract relationship absurd, especially if he has to "slow down" for it for any reason.
New fans much the same, especially with brand restrictions preventing him from entering any relationships for the last (checking) fifteen years.
Even if those people grow to like Sally Acorn herself, which is totally possible, the idea of a Sonic that would date her might seem strange and alien. Like a Goku who would date Vados.
>>528879264>Evan drew thatof course...
>>528879264Alota drew this
>>528879256>Any race with Silver and Metal in Rivals 2 doesn't have clear victors.It's Metal every time because Silver wouldn't let him live if he won. I guess you forgot to factor that into your analysis.
>>528879083Yes, it was on his Bumblekast, lol. That just makes him look more desperate.
>>528879264No. That's fanart.
>>528879209Everything about this post is correct.
>>528879209SatAM Sally is definitely considered too problematic and outdated to Ian.
>>528879162You're just ignoring me at this point.
>>528878636>Silver was a fanboy simp>wasTry harder. He was enamored by her and got to know what she's actually like by the middle of the shit with Mimic after both got humiliated by Lanolin. They found equal ground to be casual with each other
>>528879427You don't give a shit about the Rivals 2 story then. Silver isn't out to kill Metal. He has a one track focus on collecting Chao and stopping Eggman Nega. Hence him telling everyone to get out of his way if they aren't helping him, and only stopping once to steal Tails' rings to power himself back up so he can continue the mission. Rivals Silver wasn't playing games.
I hate Tangle and Whisper's stupid reverse plot armor aura that drags all their friends down for cheap drama. Oohhh noo Whisper's having a tardrage moment and is attacking Duo without bringing any sort of evidence, let's make sure she brings Silver along and gets him fucked over completely. Ooohhh nooo Lanolin's hitting a punching bag, better draw Tangle sad like a little baby stalking outside so the fandom thinks she's suffering abuwuseee... Oh noooo, Jewel's upset, let's make her cry for a good three pages so Tangle can look better after her latest screwup. Oh nooo Silver's here, better make him job to an insane degree to make this fight fair. Good fucking luck to whichever poor soul gets teamed up with them next because whoever that is will 100% get screwed over by their shitacular writing.
>>528879234He was raised by a single white woman. Silver will come out as a transgender in the next issue because he's all "ooohh women and girls are so cool!! "
Mark my words.
>>528879620>by the middle of the shit with Mimic after both got humiliated by LanolinWhen Whisper left him hung out to dry so he ditched her to go be with Blaze? Right
>>528879629He wouldn't let an evil robot live if he beat it, you know this. Therefore Metal kicks his twink ass every time.
>>528879667Why was Evan wearing a mask this late in what the fuck
>>528879209>>528879595The fact that satam Sally was canonically not dating Sonic and just made out with him for lustful reasons is genuinely really weird and unfitting for a Sonic cartoon.
Better than drama whore that complains about him fighting Eggman though.
>>528879727>waiter, another round of headcanonOk
>>528879739I think they were planned to be a couple if the show got another season, but that didn't happen.
>>528879795Concession accepted.
>>528879738>Why was Evan wearing a mask this late in what the fuckBecause she's one of those people who took it deathly seriously and didn't just remove it every opportunity she'd get like a normal person.
>>528879620>They found equal ground to be casual with each otherNo they didn't. Silver is still presented as an inexperienced kid that wants to join the special task force and looks up to them. The latest issue showed that he's still not equals withe anybody.
>>528879825Yes, there was going to be one last romantic rival before she made her decision.
>>528879631Silver's the only character they can get away with this with. Sonicfags, Shadowfags, and Knucklesfags would blow a gasket if they jobbed, lectured, or and got sidelined by the lesbian OCs
>>528874520Isn't Surge basically just a mean and green Blaze who was made in a lab?
>>528879739Maybe she was just Italian
Shadow Gens had Shadow fighting the Biolizard, Metal Overlord, Mephiles the Dark, and a more powerful Black Doom, meanwhile Silver is jobbing to a normie octopus. That's not a good look for Shadow's successor and needed his lesbian friends to take care of it.
>>528879667What does Ms. Piggy's shirt say? I'm sorry that was mean, I'll just say, what does her shirt say?
>>528879371>but he's not doing any of this out true malice. He's not doing this because he actually wants to harm townsfolk and put them in danger for his own satisfaction of seeing people get hurt. He doesn't even have any real motivations on his own to even begin wanting to hurt people if it has nothing to do with what Surge wants.I'm not trying to harp on some point that "Surge would hate that Kit is being evil". The point is thet Surge would hate being a pawn in Kit's game.
>rather than some dramatic breakupI think I would actually like to see Surge and Kit go it alone and try to develop who they are outside of each other for a bit so that when they rejoin they are more conplete people who enhance each other instead of being codependent
>then they vow to tell each other everything from here on outThat should still be the endgoal with my thinking too.
>it'd be even more retarded because Kit wasn't doing this out any real ill feelings or real villainy and Surge should know where this behavior comes from.If someone does something as bad as what Kit is doing to Surge, you can't just handwave it because of good intentions. Kit needs to learn that he can't go above Surge's head and behind her back just because he thinks he's doing something good and supportive, and while I don't want it to linger on them crying it out, like I said I would appreciate Surge leaving him for a bit so they can both find themselves, especially if her trust in him is shaken
>Make Sally bisexual
>THEN keep her Satam characterization
that would be a wild combination
>>528879362>Single motherhood.oooooh....
>>528880202She kisses boys and girls.
>>528880070Funniest post in the thread
>>528880048Surge is notbing like Blaze
>>528879973Silverfags dont like it either but half of his base has uwufags
>>528879925Deathly serious 3-4 years later?
>>528880441give us the leaks you dick
>>528880218Naruto and Sasuke feel like Tails and Sonic being rivals, in the sense that the rival figure is the cool guy everyone adores or admires while you're the underdog everyone looks down on or something. Forcing "Sonic" and "Shadow" onto that kind of dynamic where Sonic is simply the protag and Shadow is just whoever the rival is, doesn't make sense because the whole idea with Sonic is that HE is the cool guy everyone admires and Shadow is just a clone/mirror of Sonic who is identical to him in every way.
>>528880218Who would be Boruto and who would be Kawaki for the Sonic cast?
>>528879956Enter Knuckles
>>528877808To be fair you asked why Sonic WOULD like Blaze and he gave you exactly what you asked for
>>528880480Sonic and Tails is literally Naruto and Konohamaru in parallel.
>>528880480Its because in real life people think Shadow is cooler than Sonic
>>528880465>Deathly serious 3-4 years later?She's neurotic to a fault like many of her ilk.
>>528879679I'm talking about their conversation the night before where Whisper believed him about Duo over Lanolin. He and her are more casual when talking to each other which led to the confrontation with Lanolin in the next issue where they both fail spectacularly. Something that wouldn't have happened if it were Blaze with him instead because Blaze doesn't get depicted making massive blunders like that. She's a princess, diplomatic and would've been far less hasty as exposing Mimic. Whisper and Silver are both treated as incompetent rather than Silver doing something incompetent while Blaze lectures him to teach him something about it and he aspires to be like her
>he ditched her to go be with BlazeCase in fucking point kek. Everything I said they are happened in that exact conversation they had. Stilted exposition while Blaze gives him vague lessons and he's overly polite in the way you would talking to an authority figure
>>528880465>Surge is notbing like BlazeI'll take your word for it because everything I know about Surge is from here, I just know she looks a lot like her and they both have speed and hot plasma powers
>>528880527He gave me a fanfic and peddled "bro this is just what the game was!" He doesn't actually like Sonic or take Sonic into account
>>528880632Surge doesn't look anything like Blaze besides having tied up hair. Just read the comic
>>528880580>people think Shadow is cooler than SonicBecause they think Shadow is what Sonic actually is, and think Sonic's Deadpool.
>>528880707I'm a fan coming in from Sonic Prime. This is what they are and that's what they should be forever
>>528880640You don't know what a fanfic is
Evan is like when you have Sonic Sonadow fans working for the franchise
>>528880573>Sonic and Tails is literally Naruto and Konohamaru in parallel.You're forgetting about the actual characters. Naruto is not Sonic in any meaningful way except being the Jesus of his world. Sonic is not an underdog.
Threatening to rape Sally but she bends over and starts begging for it so I feel uncomfortable and ask what's wrong with her
>>528880764Real useful reply there faggotron
>>528880594>Blaze doesn't get depicted making massive blunders like that. She's a princess, diplomatic and would've been far less hasty as exposing Mimic. Whisper and Silver are both treated as incompetent rather than Silver doing something incompetent while Blaze lectures him to teach him something about it and he aspires to be like her>>he ditched her to go be with BlazeWell that's IDW not understanding anything then because Silver and Blaze are supposed to be equals.
>>528880480Sonic wouldn't be that ass blasted about wanting revenge from some guy that he would sell his body to some scientist then plot revenge against the whole nation later. adult Sasuke's mission feels like post Shth Shadow's. He travels the world to ensure its safety from an alien invasion. Where Sonic travels because he is the wind. Adult Naruto is not Sonic. maybe future arc Archie Sonic. but not game Sonic.
>>528880763>This is what they are and that's what they should be foreverFuck no, that's lame. Amy's the hyperactive goof whereas Sonic's the cool aloof dude who's as chill as can be. People want cool guys as the protags again. Only losers want more losers.
>>528880974That's why I only liked the Steven Universe movie, he stopped acting like a total faggot. I only watched the whole show because my girlfriend made me. IDW Sonic reminds me way too much of pre-movie Steven Universe.
>>528880971Afternoon of Sol dimension
https://youtu.be/qAGvQDoL5s4?si=PnKbPHAuKoaz2PCv
>>528880941Naruto's not a good comparison. Dragon Ball and One Piece have more similarities with Sonic.
>>528880971Who's Shikamaru?
>>528880186>Surge would hate being a pawn in Kit's game.Kit isn't even playing any games though. You're still making it out to seem like Kit is a real villain when he isn't.
>I think I would actually like to see Surge and Kit go it aloneOk so you had an agenda this entire conversation and were never actually entertaining anything I said to you. You're just as bad as IDW writers who want to force needless drama than write something that works and is entertaining for viewers.
>something as bad as what Kit is doing to Surge, you can't just handwave it because of good intentionsExcept you can, because he's not even manipulating her to begin with. Lying is not the same as manipulation and there are levels to this because of Kit coming from the exact same background as her except worse because he is programmed to be stupid like this. She can reprimand him in the moment, give kids a good lesson instead of making them split up and dragging what would literally be a sibling tier argument across how many monthly issues. He doesn't need to be outright abandoned by Surge to learn a lesson, he'll cower out just from her yelling at him because he did something that wouldn't make her happy and that alone fucks with his preprogrammed senses. Something that he can not overcome and has to learn to live with.
>Surge leaving him for a bit so they can both find themselvesSurge already did find something for herself, this scenario you want only put her and Kit backwards to retread topics again that they've already been over several times during their 3 introduction arcs as well as Clutch in the last arc. Give it a rest.
>>528880854>because Silver and Blaze are supposed to be equals.Equals my ass. Silver screwed up trying to kill Iblis forever so Blaze had to do it and died in the process.
>>528880854Silver never had her regal bearing... Sonic did, that's why he became King Arthur.
>>528880482og Boruto or future Boruto?
og Boruto is the most annoying twerp around who is also kinda spoiled
Adult Boruto is more serious and far more skilled.
Kawaki is Surge if male
>>528881272I feel like there's someone in pre reboot who can fill those shoes.
>>528881360He didn't screw up anything, he just wasn't compatible vessel. The only failure on his part was refusing to seal Blaze away.
>Horny
>Halflid
>Personally opposed to the protagonist
>The voice of reason
>Hidden grimdark life story
>Missing father
>Super genius
>Rarely brought up that she has an absurd IQ
Sally Acorn is Kakashi Hatake
>>528881554Knuckles could have beaten Iblis without sealing anything
>>528881635Sonic and Shadow could've beaten him too because of course they could. It's Sonic and Shadow.
>>528881360>Silver screwed up trying to kill Iblis forever so Blaze had to do itItâs because he literally canât, he doesnât have the fire soul thingy do it. Thatâs why Blaze willingly offered herself as a sacrifice to the fire demon god. Why do you keep recycling this same discussion over and over?
>>528881634>Sally Acorn is Kakashi HatakeNah she's this chick. https://youtu.be/CX7f9NHNj5M
>>528881635>>528881683Silver beat Iblis all the time. Tens of times over. Sonic and Shadow fought him like, once?
>>528881427OG Boruto and Future Boruto are the same guy so it would have to be a character who can be either.
Maybe Whisper, but actually presented as competent?
>>528881708Cream would have beaten him
>>528881827>Silver beat Iblis all the time. Tens of times over.And he kept on coming back. Dude was ineffectual. A band aid.
>>528881848>WhisperThat's so perfect
>>528881827Silver never finished the job in his time period, Iblis always got away. Does he need me to send in Knuckles? Because Knuckles can do it.
>>528830353 (OP)I need more Barry gay porn
>>528871058If only all of them would be used better and consistently.
Now we are seeing a resurgence of the old guys, so maybe things are slightly improving.
>>528881635>>528881683Silver had tally marks of the number of times he killed Iblis. Iblis and Mephiles can't be killed conventionally that's why they had to be sealed away in the Scepter of Darkness and Elise.
>>528882013>picI'm not the only one who thought it, right?
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>>528830494I remember making this request to fwa, good times
>>528882084Knuckles can kill him conventionally, he's just that strong.
>>528882002So were Sonic, Shadow and everyone else in Sonic's time when Iblis was unsealed. They probably fought Iblis for generations after the Day of Disaster but Iblis doesn't stay dead and just continues to devastate the planet by existing.
>>528880854>that's IDW not understanding anything then because Silver and Blaze are supposed to be equals.And yet, they are treated like anything but. They literally can not be equals because of the bios that says Blaze sees him in a younger brother kind of way. Not saying they're siblings or coded or whatever the fuck, but rather it's clear that the dynamic is more Silver does things, but needs help from the experienced Princess from time to time. That was their dynamic in 06.
And no what this anon
>>528881360 says isn't even what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the moments where he's introspective on the beach while Blaze calls him naive and then lectures him. The IDW dynamic is literally just their 06 dynamic.
>>528882013>Timeline where Whisper causally no-diffs Surge and tells her "You haven't trained at all, have you?"
>>528882232>Blaze sees him in a younger brother kind of way.Which is hilarious since theyre the same age. They're both 14.
>>528882236give more goldleta
>>528880218Imagine Sonic at a shitty desk job
>>528882232That's consoling each other over a moral dilemma because she's wiser and he's naive. In every other situation they're equal and have to be for their whole in-sync schtick. IDW Silver is literally just helpless no matter who is with him.
>>528882524>have to be for their whole in-sync schtickThey aren't in-sync. Just because the game says they are doesn't mean that's whats actually happening.
>>528882232It really pisses me off when the front of Blaze's coat doesn't go up high enough to expose her whole tummy
>>528882489>chamber You'd think it'd be called office.
>>528879739>90's cartoon made with 80's sensibilitiesIt was a different time.
>>528882404Ages aren't canon anymore. Now he'll probably be written to be younger than her and Amy because being young is part of his character.
>>528882489that's Barry's job
What did Sonic Team mean by this?
>>528882673>Ages aren't canon anymore.Can't erase decades of history. Sorry, Sega.
>>528882729ADHD allegory?
>>528882404>They're both 14.Which still doesn't matter because Silver is an inexperienced child in an apocalyptic world while Blaze basically got years of experience handed to her because of her background being raised to be a ruler and a protector. She knows how to deal with serious business, Silver doesn't and needs that guidance from someone with more experience than him. That's Blaze's function in 06. To be the experienced "older" one of the two even if they're same age.
>That's consoling each other over a moral dilemma because she's wiser and he's naive.So in other words, they're not equals. Also
>Consoling each other>Each otherYou have to reach so hard to say this and it still doesn't make sense. He doesn't console her over anything, she consoles him because he's lost on what to do. That's why he's the one asking questions and she answers.
>In every other situation they're equal What games display this?
>>528882489Doesn't even fit future arc Archie Sonic. He'd let Sally do that stuff
>>528882592It happens in Sonic Colors but its done with character PNG cutscenes so you don't really see it, it happens off screen in 06 and a Sonic Channel story did it too. Silver really needs to be in an anime or something so they can show not tell.
>Sonic
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>Tails
13
>Amy
18
>Knuckles
18
>Shadow
58
>Rouge
22
>Cream
12
>Vanilla
30
>Silver
12
>Blaze
18
>Marine
14
>Eggman
25
>>528882489Who is Manik's Nanashi?
>>528882913Meant to add this
>>528882524 to the reply
>>528882913>What games display this?Team Sonic Racing and Sonic Colors
>>528882673If the ages aren't canon anymore, does that mean Tails might be closer to Eggman's age than Sonic's?
Barry is a 32 year old quokka who works an office job. He's slightly overweight and keeps telling himself he needs to get back to the gym but it's been over a year
>>528882923Silver needs to be vaulted
>>528883090>does that mean Tails might be closer to Eggman's age than Sonic's?No, retard.
>>528882489Blaze is the strongest person in her world and she does that too. Is she Naruto?
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>>528879739>>528882661women giving affection freely is based
it makes roasties mad as hell
>>528883071...
>Racing game that features every character on equal footing>Colors>DS version that only show them beating up ORBOT AND CUBOTThat's all you've been going with to claim that theyre equals for how many threads now? Holy fucking shit my sides
Now please explain to me why in the only situations that matter, they game that features their dynamic the most and where most people know them from and can see both of their feats on display in actual animated cutscenes and not spinoff slop, they're portrayed unequally? Because if all you have to claim that they're supposed to be in sync ad equal is sonic joking around after they take down the weakest Eggman goons together in one shot, you're literally retarded
>>528884038I like that energy, can we direct it towards Rouge instead?
>>528881635>>528881708Wade Whipple canonically beat Iblis
>>528884224I don't know who you think I am or who you're trying to bait out, but I got nothing regarding her or if you mean Knuxouge if pic is supposed to be related
>>528884359I don't know or care who you are, I just liked your energy and wanted you to post Rouge
>>528880941Naruto feels like if Sonic was replaced by Shadow in Tails & Amy's lives.
This colourist is the worst
What the fuck is that Espio
>>528885195He's Shadow with Sonic's status.
>>528883493There was actually a cat girl in Naruto with fire powers, but she gets killed off very quickly.
Fuck Rouge. Stupid bitch needs to get beaten and raped.
>>5288852612010's brown-wash colordad finally came back with the milk I see
You think Sonic Team has something like this?
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>>528885261Why are Charmy's wrists censored?
Metal Sonic losing to Batman just reminds me of memes about Wally West being able to solo any universe, only to lose to Teen Titans Go Robin.
>>528887781He had those since Heroes
>>528887960what the fuck are you smoking man
>>528886715No. They're not degenerate like Americans. Their idea of this is Sonic smoking
>>528888176>They're not degenerate like Americans.Bro it's Japan.
>>528881348>Kit isn't even playing any games though. You're still making it out to seem like Kit is a real villain when he isn't.Manipulative his partner who trusts him is inherently a villainous act.
>Ok so you had an agenda blah blah ad hominemNo, I merely proposed something I would enjoy seeing that I think is one possible natural way to go off of the route I've been arguing
>Kit coming from the exact same background as her except worse because he is programmed to be stupid like this.This removes all Kit's agency, as if he had no choice or independence regarding his plan he came up with. Again, this can't be used an excuse when he isn't cluing her in.
>Surge already did find something for herself, this scenario you want only put her and Kit backwards to retread topics again that they've already been over several times during their 3 introduction arcs as wellMaybe but Surge and Kit can't function without the other. I don't think it's crazy for them to grow and learn how to do so.
>>528887950Flashes are simultaneously broken enough to destroy multiverses but weak enough that Catwoman can solo 3 of them at once and characters like Captain Boomerang or Gorilla Grodd can threaten them.
I was wondering what the hell that thing was that he transformed into. Now that I do, it makes even less sense when you understand how Mimic's shapeshifting works.
This comic finds new ways to piss me off.
>>528889183This guy shapeshifts into Badniks 3 times taller than him
>>528888956Why are you downplaying Grodd
>>528889183I knew it was Yeti, but I was like why the fuck is it brown??
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>>528889183>>528889273Didn't Ian say that Mimic didn't get power from the things he shapeshifted into, cause that would be too OP? Why the fuck did he supposedly get stronger?
>>528889958I mean, Ian didn't need to say anything, while Mimic shapeshifed into Vector, Eggman or that bear Diamond Cutter, he wasn't able to escape Tangle's tail
Also, he didn't get stronger while he was in that form
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yqo3ffqInA
Fuck off with your Tranny Planet
I'm at my little brother's high school and his friends are talking about Sonic. They say they don't wanna pay for his new racing game. His black friend plays Speed Battle and said Frontiers was buggy
>>528891090you should ask his friends about shipping questions, because that's something a normal and well-adjusted individual talks about in public with high schoolers
>>528891090You should introduce them to Shadally
http://x.com/AsuraRaver/status/1937931407491269058
>>528891207They moved on to talking about seeing a video about Melee that explained Wobbling
>>528891269Sonic would walk away from this interaction thinking it was platonic
>>528891090>They say they don't wanna pay for his new racing game.Why get that instead of Mario Kart?
>>528891446Because Crossworlds is better than Mario Shit World?
>>528891446Because you don't have five minutes playable loading screens between each course.
>>528891379He would also never give anyone birthday presents back (He has nothing to give to anyone).
>>528890941low iq draggy wife
>>528891379>Sonic would walk away from this interaction thinking it was platonicNope.
>>528888872>Manipulative his partner who trusts him is inherently a villainous act.This is how you know the core idwfag audience is twitter because they all think in black and white and are incapable of forming nuanced opinions. Every single one of them talks like this and this is why the manga burns them despite still liking it because they functionally can not understand nuanced concepts
>>528892721>they functionally can not understand nuanced conceptsSounds like autism.
https://youtu.be/KgOMIUTJx5g?si=ffYt3CZmXm8Rh4Gv
>>528892682Blaze is throwing herself at Sonic here so it's a chase he doesn't want
>>528892721>bro is defending the incel characterKitcels
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>>528892826stupid sexy insect
>>528893002kill yourself now sexist
>>528892825It might just really be that. I've talked to more than a few of them and no matter how hard anyone tries to explain the details that make the difference, they genuinely can not understand and it blows my mind. And then they really think we're bullshitting about what we say and just think it's all fake because they can't understand what they're being told.
Soul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te5XDVRN8J8
Lovers...
Boys deserve love...
>>528891751NTA but Crossworlds is more expensive than MKW and is filled with scummy tactics by throwing in all of these random shitty crossover characters than actual Sonic characters
>>528893370https://youtu.be/PXM08-GyucQ
>>528893553>Crossworlds is more expensive than MKWNope. Crossworlds is 90$ INCLUDING it's full list of dlcs. MKW is 80$ not even counting future dlc/season pass.
>>528893553>scummy tactics, such as>...>trying to sell the game
>>528891751Can I take pictures of Blaze and Rouge in a swimsuit? Because I can do that with Daisy in Mario Kart World.
>>528888956Power levels are real bullshit.
>>528884359>posting knuxouge is considered bait now
It just pisses me off
They had a chance to frame this entire Duo story
They had a chance to "rehabilitate" Silver and he could save everyone
But no, Silver is even weaker and Lesbians have to rescue themselves again
Fuck Ian and Evan
Obese yumes explaining lolcows to their mothers.
>>528893553>NTA but Crossworlds is more expensiveIt's $70 + $20 bundled Season Pass with extras dumbass. Mario Kart World is $80 just by itself.
>b-b-but $50 bundledYeah, when you buy a new $500 console.
>>528894105>Fuck Ian and EvanShouldn't have trusted them.
>>528894105Rainbow rocks!
Handholding!
Cuckver!
Cop-out Death!
>>528894105WHERE THE FUCK IS SONIC?
>>528894457......oh that blue OC?
>>528894105We need to get Silver out of the longhouse bruh
>>528894229I don't think your point really matters. Most people who buy Crossworlds aren't going to buy the base game which is likely incomplete since it lacks most of the roster and stages. They're going to fork over some extra money to get the full package, which ultimately costs more than MKW.
With the new manga and the new Issues watching IDWfags trying to damage control their favorite toilet papers have been fun to watch.
>>528894229If they were smart, they might consider bundling the games with the console in order to get as many switch 2's in people's homes as possible. It worked for one company.
Actually who am I kidding. They don't need to do that because there are so many nintendofags they could charge $800 and it'd still sell well.
https://x.com/shadarialuv/status/1938225763897012541
Another ShadriaGOD got married...!
>>528894310>Cop-out Death!I don't think anyone noticed this yet, but Mimic split into pieces after the splash. He actually exploded
>>528894105At this point i don't think writing Silver is ever going to be good, dude seriously needs an involvement in a game.
If i give my two cents into this, i think they should remake rivals, both games into one handheld game to the switch 2 or something
>>528893769I hate this retarded excuse when every other racing game doesn't need to do this shit unless they're in a desperate situation(Which the Sonic franchise clearly isn't, as this isn't the 2010s aka the dark age of Sonic)
>>528895070Money brother, MONEY
>>528894105Why do the expressions in this issue look so bad? Feels like they're really trying to get the fans to crop them for memes.
>>528867516>SHITrio CRAPt WORSTld tries to run away in random directions but they're all straight lines to a brutal DESTRUCTION from SOULnic RADcing KINOworlds>Crossover crutch shit that doesn't even care about SHitnic's brand>90 dollar Crossover shit that is mute Never beating anything from highSALESrio, flopnic.
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