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Schizophrenia Edition
Previous Schizophrenic Episode
>>528809893Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Kris.
-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo-The New Game
>https://deltarune.com-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/>https://deltarune.com/#news>https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune-Books
-Undertale Artbook
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (embed)-Legends of Localization - Undertale
>https://pastebin.com/DkZaXMpi (embed)-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com>https://undertale.com/alarmclock>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/-Undertale/Deltarune Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH (embed)-Undertale Image Collections
>https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba (embed)-Booru (newly resurrected, please help tag)
>https://utg.vidya.pics/-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6 (embed)-Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh-Comicbin
>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE (embed)-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg-/vg/ League team
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//utg/-Wanna change the font?
>https://rentry.org/utg-font-Thread Template
>https://pastebin.com/rTN8SxAw (embed)Post theories ITT or a skeleton will rip off your balls and you will bleed to death :-)
I baked too slow fuck my stupid chud life
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Ramb!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Festival_(short_story)
Post Queens for a poor anon shitting his guts out?
Check these bars, boyos!
I wrote meself a little "rap verse", eh heh heh!
https://vocaroo.com/18NByllXkpjH
Not too bad for an old coot, eh?
Give me your most schizo (but justifiable) theories for the shattered part of the prophecy.
>>528824526All berdly needs to do is to say some sappy shit like "hm, you know what? I'll bite, kris, as my number one fan, i'll go to the festival with you for giving me such a perfect gift!" and he'll get a free tv in a bajillion timelines cus kerdly shippers will end up wanting to give tenna to him, everybody will stop caring about giving tenna to mettaton after that
>>528852461What's important to consider is Susie's reaction. It's not sadness or shock. It's denial. She is so fundamentally against it that she straight up says it's not going to happen.
Which mike is your favorite one? Mine's cat mike, he's silly and cute
>>528852862You have to look close at what she says. She doesn't say "I don't want that to happen" or "I hope that doesn't happen." She says "I won't let that happen." Her entire arc for 5-7 will center on desperate attempts to prevent the prophecy from coming true.
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Remind yourself every day that computers have feelings too and they feel bad when they are running unsmoothly. I hope for the day when there will be new regulations brought against software developers to limit the suffering of computers and the development of malware will be looked at like a sin. I do not think that Toby Fox pushes the message of caring for the vessels of Darkners hard enough in Deltarune, even though it would benefit the world for Toby to teach this to children around the world. All of you will one day hear the voices of things that you once thought could not speak.
>Talk to Spamton about the Knight
>When he's cut off the option for the Knight is replaced with FRIENDS
VERY
VERY
INTERESTING
The trend continues.
Watched 3 more live streams of biological females and 2 of them kept getting destroyed by Jackenstein's head because they couldn't navigate the mazes. The third had the tension item and skipped the last third of the fight, only losing 3 times to the head.
>>528854895FRIEND is a groomer pedophile rapist just like Snowgrave Kris and Snowgrave ends with us being possessed by FRIEND just like how FRIEND groomed all the other secret bosses into madness and faggotry - FRIEND is to Manipulation, as Chara is to Genocide
>>528854895that fucking cat that i hate
>>528833784 (OP)What if Noelle and Dess do the fusion dance and become Ness?
>>528854895Where is this fucker? I couldn't find him in Queen's scary basement.
>>528855094>shirt with abs and nipplesamazing
>>528855094Artist totally intended Femkris but I like to imagine this is Masckris being forced to dress like this by us
https://x.com/wendylmao3/status/1938019736320667852?t=zywDMuXIkN6HA_5bbNlqSA&s=19 theres a lot of unused shit in deltarune chapter 3 apparently
How are you supposed to know to put 1225 in the ball machine?
How are you supposed to know Mike's room code? I know it's how you spell it on a phone, but how are you supposed to know that in-game?
Yo. Did Noelle slap Kris when you abort the Snowgrave route in chapter four? That's just mean but funny.
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>>528851406>a little like shelly duvalThought it was a neat idea
>>528853101Negative First Mike: Tenna's schizo tulpa
>>528856441keeeeeeek
>bed isnt closed against the corner & wallooooooh gay NPC gayy
>>5288560921225 is parental lock code
Mike's password is taped-on after you beat the Titan
https://embrace-autism.com/raads-r/
how autistic is /utg/?
>>528856441Why does this have 10k likes?
>>528856441theres like a 6 pixel gap left behind her closet
Why is the perspective all fucked or is that just me
Only men display their awards
>>528855157This is pretty close to YIIK's plot.
>>528857265>Only men display their awardsWell yeah, she is one
>>528857265That furry website has conditioned me to see screenshots with overlapping characters and think "Oh, thats another weird sex animation".
>>528857265>Why is the perspective all fucked or is that just me
>>528856223That's fucking great
>>528836665Hometown is in Massachussetts too
>>528857426AHHH SAVE ME FRIENDMAN
>>528857265The perspective is COMPLETELY fucked here. The room is non-euclidian.
>>528853101I don't know why people like Pluey so much, the mic hands and feet gross me out. He's cuter as a Shadowguy.
The twisted sword.
The twisted sword is evil.
The twisted sword is what triggers chapter 6 and turns kris into a true antagonist.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3uc0eby3tDA
>>528849816I'd say it sounds a bit too similar to Demoman but otherwise, good job anon
>>528855094this is literally all we're gonna be allowed to date and it fucking sucks.
Dess both is and isn't the Knight, if that makes sense. Like it's "her" but it's not really her.
>>528857265and her bedframe is almost a meter away from the wall
Is sthis representing some kind of mental illness?
Do we actually know why Asriel has so many rewards? What did he do?
>>528857982ohhh like a transgender isnt fullwy a women or man is likeโฆ a mental disorder got ya
>>528858035The room personifies the feeling of a panic attack.
>>528858161If that was actually foreshadowing I swear on my [HeartShapedObject]...
>>528858306I was feeling something more-like.. Trying to present itself as โnormalโ but doesnt under stande what normale is. Like an autist imitating other people.. NOELLE IS THE KNIGHT
If Asgore is fought in Chapter 5, will the battle just reuse his Undertale battle theme or will it be something new?
>>528857265does toby only have game awards decor why does all the character have game awards decor
FRIEND is based on Seam, who belonged to Dess as a kid.
>>528858676it will be something new but will reference the ut music like how hammer of justice is a new thing but obviously referencing spear of justice
https://files.catbox.moe/6kgcvx.mp4
>>528856092>How are you supposed to know to put 1225 in the ball machine?You aren't. You can either try after you find Dess' guitar or after the second parental lock.
>>528856441>see this postI vow to never post here again and will remain on /v/.
trans rights are human rights
>>528859052Friend is based on an actual lightner who is mentally ill and wants to hurt people
If you select a Hindi language in the options the Dreemur Household is missing the toilet. What did Toby mean by this?
>>528859256Maybe the real YOU was the friend we made along the way
>>528857787Explain the connection here
>>528833784 (OP)KRIS IS A MAN KRIS IS A HE KRIS IS A MAN KRIS IS A HE APOCALYPSE THREAD HEIL SNOWGRAVE
>>528836665Perhaps its this, perhaps its Marksman Theory?
>>528855094Berdly would be a fag who's into femboys and say it's straight
>>528860003he's just like me fr........
>>528857787is the twisted sword the tail mentioned in the prophecy?
Ralsei refuses to show us his castle room fully of money
>>528859814Even when the clock ran back, the shadow was growing
>>528859256FRIEND is a darkner in the way that (You) are a lightner
>>528856441I would believe it.
When Bratty stole Asriel's first kiss, how did Dess react?
>>528853101Pluey has knight mouth
I have a Theory Ralsei is shadow itself as the object he is Would explain how he never turns into stone and can be anywhere he wants but takes time to appear
>>528860208Bratty used to have a little sister named Bratti
>>528856978because ten thousand twitter users liked it
>>528853101motormouth mike is a friend inside me
Ralsei's horns and eyes are supposed to be red but he faded pink with agr
>>528853101I like the secret Mike
you'll never find him
>>528860115Oh, good catch
>>52885609212 25
december 25th
you're supposed to put two and two togerther between seeing Noelle's internet search history and seeing that the first three digits of the guitar code are 122, and then go back and put 1225 into anything with a four digit code
>>528860074Ralsei somehow "makes" DarkDollar change in ch4 during the Other Side shop scene, so...
the hidden /utg/ discord...
>>528860490his scarf is filled with rolls of DarkPennies
>>528855094femkris NEEDS plappies
>>528853101the real Mike. he has such a beautiful voice
>>528860491give me a sign I want to believe
>>528860608femkris NEEDS big titties
>>528860703and he gives me candies
>>528860491do not awaken them...the ancient evil lurks dormant there...the addisonfags....
>>528860792Kris being a jerk het again, I see
>>528860792the wet goat smell reminds kris of showering with asriel
Why did Tenna get so mad about this
>>528860815the fucking WHAT
>>528860916>jerk hetit's called "tsundere"
>>528860456>cat mike aka pluey >has FRIEND eyes>is a shadow entity>has the same hair as the knightDessissies, your response?
>tenna can't be a tv head it's too obvious
>tenna is a tv head
>dess can't be the knight it's too obvious
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>Wave 1
Susie, Ralsei, Noelle
>Wave 2
Berdly, Catti and Jockington
>Wave 3
Asriel, Kris, Dess
https://youtu.be/IoctSayKfa8
>>528860792the wet goat smell reminds dess of sex with asriel
>>528861063Only version of what song?
>>528833784 (OP)The Roaring Knight has a very interesting mechanic of forcing you to use the elixir equivalent in this game instead of just hoarding it forever.
Also kinda foreshadowed in chapter 2 when Noelle's dad told her to use one of her 99 potions? And that she has never "beaten" this boss.
>>528861031TV tenna was the broken clock being right.
Dess knight involves ignore other clues, implied motives, story threads, entire characters, etc.
>dess is an anagram for seed
>>528861031Why fanart shrink his head so much? The body is not the point. TV is the point. TV is canonically bigger than shoulders.
>>528860926The dreemurr household seems like the kind to have baths over showers
>>528861151Lost Girl (Noelle)
>>528860193He is so cute!
>>528860731Actually Femkris needs small titties but WIDE hips
Do you guys use the shitty d-pad or analog?
How is this fucker so hot?
They/them dick must be fucking good, I know it
I am going to discuss this here, because I know no one will believe it anyways. I don't want it circulating in the usual circles, but it's driving me insane.
I got my hands on a demo build of Chapter 5. The assets are still early and the weird route isn't implemented at all (yet?) but a chunk of the normal route story is intact.
The knight never gets revealed. We don't get our vessel. The party is Kris, Susie, and Noelle. Ralsei isn't in the party the majority of the time because it's full and he gets upset about this.
This honestly feels like the most unsatisfying part of the game by far and I really hope it gets changed.
>>528861323I rewatched this video today, forgot how psychotic it was
The sound made when the plush hits the fence is amazing
That one tweet had an insane impact
>>528861063Catti and Jockington have better things to do.
>>528861052why ise their chest shedding the inner liding they are mensturarting
>>528861261Dess, stop making Kris get with a gay clone of their brother.
>>528849816So what're the odds that DR's peaked with Ch4 and no one will be better than Gerson even after character development?
>>528861323I can't believe Toby explicitly encouraged people to do this with Ralsei plushies
>>528860956He was being weird about it
So how many people think the Knight is just an actual new character weโve never seen before
>>528861475Pics or it didn't happen
>>528861535Dess is a new character we've never seen before
>>528861475me when I larp
>>528861513the inevitable ralsei crashout will overshadow gerson
>>528861052>STOP HAVING FUN
>>528861475>The knight never gets revealed. We don't get our vessel.Why would that happen in chapter 5? That's endgame stuff.
>>528861591>>528861617Choose to believe it or don't. I really don't care. I just had to put it out there
>>528861513Ralsei will interact with FRIEND and it will not be pretty
The Addison saying that the line on Spamton's phone was just garbage noise has always felt very Gaster-y. After 3-4 I think it might be a FRIEND thing. The "garbage noise" when you call the phone in dark world is from the track that plays in ENTRY 17 in Undertale, but the name of that track was "mus_smile". And the context of that Entry, based on Gaster's dialog, was that he opened a Dark World.
Tenna in the Mantle game also adds context to Spamton's call. He wanted Spamton to tell him his secret to being a "big shot". Tenna got Spamton to sign a deal that would've forced that, and at that moment Spamton got a phone call and his life fell apart. So the implication seems like he could not tell anyone the secret, and he lost his benefactor's support when Tenna created a situation that would force Spamton to tell.
Ramb also tells Kris "freedom is just for big shots", and he's often nearby that vending machine that sells you a SMILE for 1 point. The SMILEs are sold out after you get the Mantle. SMILE being all caps and you finding the pink and yellow OddController backstage (while Ramb says he doesn't know of anybody else backstage), it seems like FRIEND was hiding there.
FRIEND is also "at Gaster's level" in the game code. In terms of file naming conventions. His smile sprite is named like the connection/vesselmaker stuff, not a dark world asset. The Mantle fight smiles don't have names at all, they're just underscores IIRC.
I think these points ended up a little more disjointed than i intended, but to sum up, it's easy to think of the garbage noise from the cell phone in dark worlds as "gaster noise", but we could instead see it as ENTRY 17's recording has "dark world noise" or "FRIEND noise".
Thereโs a lot of art of Susie licking Kris
>>528861154Actually, RK emphasizes hoarding even more. If you had enough revives, you're rewarded with easier battle. If not, there's only ONE revive you can get by this point, the one from the Ball Machine.
>>528861475>>528861680What colour is the floor in the third area you explore?
>>528861535Only that one anon who thinks it's a cowboy actor because they take metaphors really literally
>>528861601Shaddap *throws dirt on u*
>>528861660Because we're headed into another 3 years of no actual answers to the lore, just like these last two chapters told us basically nothing and left us with more questions. It really puts the dialogue by Ramb into perspective. This is going to end up feeling like a chore to complete.
>>528861680I could see the demo being real but there is zero reason an individual would put ts on a 4chan thread. play testing complaints go to the creator of the game. what would complaining about it even do here? goober
>>528861462https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kcXLnMCo2o&ab_channel=WiltChamberlain
What are some cool deltarune mods for other games
The autism must spread
>nearly all of the royal guard uses only swords, speaks and medievial style weaponry. None of them use guns.
>there are no vehicles, specifically military ones
>the monsters dont have a royal army that shows up during the genocide route. Its all just a shitty medievial royal guard.
>the majority of the royal guard is filled with incompetent clowns. Undyne is strong but shes also a clown
>there is no planes, cars, trains or etc in the underground. The underground logistical network is pretty much nonexistant
>The king himself also uses only a trident. He doesnt equip himself with a minigun.
>The only human hunting high tech shit is a fake robot. And that robot ends up being beaten by a human anyway. A fucking human child
>the only hope the monsters have is collecting seven souls. But theres no guarantee that humans havent prepared counters for that in the surface.
The monsters really were fucked.
a consensus on goat has been reached
>>528861732the thing about girlspit is the smell lingers on your face all day and you're never sure if everyone can smell it or just you
>>528861505That's Kris' monstersona, actually.
The game was about "self-love" all along.
>>528861261Blood on his face just sets something off in me
>>528861842humans are functionally gods in this universe. one monster plus one human soul would probably go hard against a human tho and they DID have six extras so they def could've locked tf in
>>528861824Because complaints coming from me won't mean anything to him. I'm not the person who can convince his autistic ass to do anything other than fixing bugs
>>528861817It's weird, but after going back and looking through the website teasers and seeing how they correlate to the actual 3/4 content, I don't think the wait is gonna bother me that much.
That is, if they actually do those cryptic teasers again to keep everyone sated, if not it's fucking over.
Sharing a banana split with Asgore at QC's Diner, pinching Asgore's fluffy buns and stealing a kiss on the nose when he shoots up in surprise, going to a special hat store to have Asgore's cute but heavily damaged straw gardening hat replaced
>>528861826why does she have a south american accent?
>>528861958Yeah but he still looks like December's boyfriend.
>>528861974>hire playtesters>don't listen to themeither you're an isolated case in terms of responses and other playtesters disagree, he's not playtesting for that yet, or (the most likely option) you're larping. occam's razor
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>still no gaster email
bros....
>>528861827I would hope it goes like that
Why is Kriss such an asshole to Noelle?
>>528862168because Noelle is a masochist who loves it
>>528862168Kris is an asshole in general.
>>528861817>another 3 yearsWhere are you pulling this from?
Be warned, much of this is conjecture.
>WHAT WE KNOW:
Kris, when Dess was around, was deeply attached. They almost certainly learned to play the piano through Dess. They played with Dess and Asriel and stuck to the two over their own age group. Dess was also pretty harsh in punishing Kris, maybe a little too harsh for a mere child, but I digress.
The disappearance caused a rift between the families, and Kris was likely present in some capacity to see what happened. We cannot tell if they were there to see it or were possibly a factor in it.
The game itself has lots of themes of control and manipulation, which should be very apparent.
>WHAT WE CAN INFER:
It's likely Dess is the Knight given the large amounts of evidence beforehand. If ERAM is also the Knight, then that's a direct communication between Kris and Dess. IF this is true, then we need to consider if Dess has been corrupted by Darkness in the same way Flowey was without a soul. We can't really tell, but for the sake of this post I'll assume it isn't true, at least to the same degree as Flowey.
Kris is working with the Knight and possibly Carol or whoever else is on the phone. Part of this may even involve the betrayal of Susie and Ralsei. Obviously a painful decision, but one that's already been made.
It is also possible that Kris blames themselves for causing everything to fall apart, as an internalized reaction.
Kris is also possibly avoiding Noelle as a result of this, notably reluctant to play the piano around her until they think they're alone, along with general avoidance. Maybe guilt?
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>>528862168Because pranking Noelle gives them extra attention from Dess
>>528862168Not really, Kris is just weird and she knows that better than anyone
If you're talking about the snowgrave stuff, that's on (You) buddy
>>528861826They are like 3 years apart at most.
>>528861959Poor boy...
Someone needs to tell him that he matters and that person was Susie but the kralsei agenda must be maintained
Chapter 5 will take place underwater and the secret boss will be a giant dark octopus
>susiezilla exists
>no actual godzilla adjacent susiezilla art exists
sadge
>>528862168why did kris kidnap and abuse the soul? it's because he's an evil asshole. having redeeming qualities doesn't stop that.
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>Carol thinks she is the mastermind
>it's actually Kris and Dess planning everything and using Carol
>but it's actually FRIEND using them
>>528862350>why did kris kidnap and abuse the soul?You wouldn't get it
>>528861475>if true (lol, lmao)Huh, guess we don't have to worry of a delay because what'd cause it (revamping Weird Route) isn't even started.
>Ralsei sad at full partyFUCKER WE ALREADY HAD 4 PARTY MEMBERS, HE BETTER TAKE THAT 4TH SLOT RIGHT THE FUCK NOW BEFORE I PUNT SUSIE LIKE A PROUD CHICKEN CHASER!
>>528861617>>528861691>Ralsei crashoutGot good potential but I'm looking at best character overall, not just the highest peaks. Ralsei's great crashout #2 could hit the latter but idk if it'll help make Ralsei as a whole stand stronger than fucking the Chad Turtle of Art and Freedom that with one chapter got even the most skeptic of fucks on the hype train.
>>528861959It was an ingenious way to fuel hurt/comfort shippers while bypassing darkners not bleeding.
>>528862057Dess and Rudy are Mexican coded.
>>528862168He likes to hear her screams.
>>528862168sans soul, Kris is literally that occult kid from Junji Ito comics that's convinced everyone is looking down on him by refusing to take his chuuni ass seriously, so he's constantly trying to freak people out and prank them and prove he's special only for it to blow up in his face since even when he does pull off some actual occult shit, most people stand up to him anyway and whoop his ass until he makes it stop, so he ends up gravitating towards the most timid people around so he can feel big and strong by making them cry
>>528862168Noelle is a bitch to Kris
>>528862001What would your ideal day with Asgore look like? In as much or as little detail as you'd like.
I think it is funny that Toby just put his foot down and has Kris beat us with a hockey stick just so people finally realized weโre not Kris
>>528854895>the pure crystal which is needed to craft the twisted sword has the description "the shadow purified by the cat">this probably refers to seamBut what if...
>>528862539I thought it was obvious since the chapter 1 ending that Kris and the soul are two different entities
>https://youtu.be/N117e1Ub39A?feature=shared&t=65
>>528862140i hate that i cant get enough of these fucking asgore shitposts
What are the chances that Asgore's 7 flowers all think that they're his family members?
>>528861964wait can monsters absorb more than seven souls. And thus become more powerful?
>>528862643I don't see why not
>>528862343sex with this purple thing
>>528862450Whoever wrote this would love Snowgrave
>>528862612I'm gonna miss rude buster...
You think Susie will ever realize that Kris and Noelle like her because of how similar she is to a missing person?
>>528862634I can see asgore naming flowers after Kris, Asriel etc and as Darkners they'd feel more entitled to Asgore's love and attention since they didnt abandon him
>>528862679if thats the case then monsters will destroy humanity. Frisk was able to resist a seven soul monster (even tho asriel helped by being a crybaby)
I dont think frisk or a adult human could resist a 100 soul monster
>>528862449>>but it's actually FRIEND using themand you won't have a clue unless you got all the crystals and got the Seam Ripper
I wrote a story about an idea I had
>it's the day of the festival
>both Susie and Kris are debating on what to do
>ride the ferris wheel, get something to eat, find out more ways to tease Alphys
>Kris wonders away from Susie for just a moment
>they find an ice cream stand
>Kris remembers Ralsei's request
>his one way that the lonely prince can connect with his friends in the light world, to get Susie an ice cream, from him
>Kris takes the five dollars he "borrowed" from his brothers' drawer and buys the ice cream
>it's mint chocolate chip
>they take it to Susie
>she's excitedly talking to Kris about her "plan"
>"Dude, check this out, they're giving away free samples at the hot dog stand. I've had like four of them so far until they said that I had enough. With you here, we can get even more. Those dumbasses will have NO idea! Think of all the food we can get for free..."
>"...Hey, whatcha got there? WAIT, did you think of the same thing?? Heh, I knew great minds think alike."
>Kris looks at her, holding out the ice cream and says
>"It's from Ralsei"
>Susie is pretty confused at first, but slowly gets what Kris is doing
>"...?? Ralsei..? Well, I mean.. there's no way that he-"
>"Wait, did he tell you do give it to me?"
>Kris nods at Susie, as she takes the ice cream from Kris' hand
>Susie looks at the ice cream, a flavor she's never even had before. Actually eating it is the furthest from her mind
>"Man... Ralsei was so beat up about not being able to go, huh? I mean I know it's not really.. possible or anything but still..."
>"He really wanted to do something for us, huh?"
>Kris nods in silence, with a blank expression
>Susie then jolts up and looks at Kris with a fire in her eye
>"Ya know what?! If we can't bring Ralsei to the festival.. then we'll just bring the festival to Ralsei!!"
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>>528862767does Kris even like Susie or do they just tolerate her because the soul made them friends
>>528862612DIVORCE HAS A THEME SONG NOW HURRAY
>>528862865They do the juice thing and use her to finish off the snack platter so I'd say they like her
>>528862612for me it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f1RK1m7qvc
What if Toby Fox is moving on from his woke arc to become a hardcore conspiracy theorist and chapter 5 is full of WKUK-esque humor?
>>528862262>THE POINT:It's a shaky argument at best, but perhaps what we know of Dess is not as wholesome as it seems. Dess, Asriel and Kris likely went on forays into dangerous places, or maybe even Dark Worlds themselves. Although we know little much about the connection between the two, a precedent already exists for using bonds to manipulate people. It's possible that whatever transpired that day may not have been as much of an accident, and something or someone may have tried to make Kris believe they were responsible.
Onto the ERAM/Knight connection, this implies Dess is aware of what's occurring and trying to unsettle Kris, or worse, mock them for the Snowgrave route. The Knight also clearly goes easier on Kris than the other two, and picks up on things Kris does, and there's of course the "knighting" sprite name. Betraying their friends for the Knight obviously has some VERY important significance to Kris, and it may just very well be Dess. The same Dess trying to release a horde of world destroying Titans.
A lot of it is based off thematic reasoning, but I feel like Kris and Dess were much closer than people think, and because of it Dess was often very manipulative to a young and impressionable Kris. Maybe even to the point of gaslighting them into believing that incident was their fault and that their families breaking apart is their fault as well. I mean, if ERAM IS Dess, she quite literally does... Snowgrave could simply just be a repetition of that cycle.
I'm not at ALL confident in what I wrote, please poke as many holes in it as you can or reinforce it if you want.
>>528862865Kris definitely likes Susie, he goes out of his way to be friends with her regardless of input from (You). Plus, at the end of chapter 2, when Susie asks who you want to take to the festival, answering Ralsei or Noelle confuses Kris, but he's fully serious when he says Susie, and if you choose to say nothing, he'll still just stare at her.
>>528857704Cat mike looks like a silly goober to me so the mic hands and paws arent that outraging
>>528862812>>528862634>Weird Route chapter 5 has you killing flower versions of every member of the Dreemur and Holiday family, causing Asgore to completely lose his mind and kill himself
I feel like people have really glossed over Kris making the Chapter 3 Fountain.
Like, the implication is clearly there that they did it in service of the Knight so that Undyne could get got, that part is pretty straightforward.
But I don't see people talking about WHY Kris had to be the one to do all that. Even assuming the initial setup had to be Kris, why not just leave the door open and have the Knight come in and make the Fountain while they're sleeping?
It feels like a big deal that may imply the Knight CAN'T make Fountains normally. Like maybe Susie was on point with her mocking of the Knight in Chapter 4 and the Knight can't make a Fountain outside the Dark World.
If so, it would raise questions of who was making the Fountains for the Knight in the Light World. Kris did Chapter 3, Alvin may have been convinced for Chapter 4, but 1 & 2 are still up in the air.
>>528862989Sorry buddy I don't care I paid 25 hard earned dollars for this experience and I'm not gonna let your delusions of grandeur get in the way of my enjoying it
Now quit being a little bitch and fuck the doe
>>528862836>Susie reached into her pocket and pulls out a wrapped up napkin with something inside it>"I was planning to eat this but... Ralsei... would really appreciate this. Here Kris, take this to Ralsei, and tell him it was from me. See what he thinks of THAT!">Kris takes the napkin and looks inside>It's a collection of small free samples of various food items, including hot dogs, funnel cakes, and loose pieces of candy>"I would come with you Kris, but the night is young.. so many free samples, so little time..", Susie says, flashing a mischievous smile>Kris walks away from the festival and towards the school>it's mid-afternoon in Hometown, nobody is near the school as it's tucked away from the rest of the festival>Kris walks into the school, the sun is shining through the windows, the dust particles dancing in the sunlight>not a single person is in the school>Kris walks towards the supply closet, the door is towering over them>they open the door and walk into the closet, immediately falling down into the Castle Town as Kris transitions fully into the dark world>they land on the ground, in their full dark world outfit>Kris slowly walks into the castle town, and is immediately greeted by Ralsei, surprised to see them>"Kris!! It's so nice to see you! Um... shouldn't you be.. at the festival with Susie? I'm sure she would really appreciate you there with her!">"...">Ralsei looks away for a second, before looking back to Kris>"I-I'm sorry to mention this Kris, but did you ever... do that thing that I asked? I-I mean if you didn't, it's fine! I just-">Kris nods to Ralsei before he can finish his sentence>"..oh! That's wonderful! I really, really appreciate it Kris, I hope that she liked it! She deserves it, after all." >"It.. really warms my heart to know that I could at least help give something to her.."
>>528863078I remember it being a theory that Alphys made the chapter 1 dark fountain
>>528863029Also it's unknown what Kris wrote on the window
>>528862969>it's the divorce lawyer's ringtone
>>528862989fuck you bitch ass Kris. i'm going to edit a dialogue box in so that you say you guzzle 10 ounces of dicks every morning and brush your teeth with your brother's cum. i'm also forcing you into a relationship with berdly and berating ralsei for even thinking of not smiling. you get what you deserve
>>528863048If Chapter 5 really does have the flowers become Darkners of the Dreemurrs and Holidays, I wonder if we'll actually be able to Recruit them at all.
The "charred in an inferno of jealousy" bit makes me think maybe a fire actually breaks out while in the Dark World. If so, maybe the family Darkners are destined to die and we can only rescue the objects instead.
Would be weird to have the flowers jammed in the Closet.
>>528863078Knifeknight is still on the table
>>528863268If that's what happens, flower darkner Kris would absolutely have to be the secret boss.
>Susie will fight Kris
>Susie will fight Knight/Dess
Susie really is the main character of Deltarune.
>>528863162Alphys being up to bad shit again is quite likely
if FRIEND doesn't have a pointed tail like fan artists and theorists believe, Alphys and Susie (or her parents) are the next in line to be likely
>>528861680>"hey guyz heres made up shit, its totally real!!!">"no i wont elaborate by posting pics, but trust me bro"
>>528863048don't know if Toby has the balls to pull it off again, but that'd be the second time Asgore would be able to kill himself
>>528862836>>528863120Cute. I need sleep but hope you repost the whole thing during waking hours
>>528863120>Ralsei is smiling, looking down at the ground, almost like he's contemplating something>Kris takes the napkin out of his pocket and extends his hand toward Ralsei>"..! Oh! You have.. something in your hand! Is that.. for me?">Kris looks at Ralsei for a second and says>"It's from Susie">Ralsei curiously opens the napkin and takes one look inside>Ralsei looks at the food items in the napkin and smiles, but his eyes hide a slight sadness and even frustration>"Kris...">Ralsei continues to stare at the items in his hand>"....">"Hah... why is Susie... being so kind?">Ralsei looks at Kris, with an almost worried look in his eyes, continuing to flash a difficult smile>"Kris.. I'm... a Darkner. I have no need for food! The food in the dark world, it's... not really meant for us. You and Susie are Lightners! You have to eat!", Ralsei continues, a slight worry in his voice>"She's... giving me... of all people... her food now. I just..", Ralsei says, fighting back against something inside of him>"I just wanted her to have something to eat, Kris. Maybe then she shouldn't be so... so...">Ralsei sighs and closes his eyes, flashing another smile at Kris>"I can't take this, Kris. It's just.. too selfish! Just.. give it back to Susie, okay? It looks really yummy, I'm sure she'll love it!">Ralsei extends his hand with the napkin to Kris, who does not react. Kris looks at Ralsei and says>"She says it's for you">Ralsei is taken aback, beginning to blush a bit>He thinks a bit about what Kris says>"R-Really..? Well..">Ralsei pauses for a few seconds to think>"Well, if that really makes her happy, then.. I'll take it!"
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>>528862989Fuck you Kris I control the body now DO A EVANGELION ON BERDLY
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>>528861475Screencap this shit, then we'll see who laughs when ch5 releases
>>528861550>6 similar bullets, the 7th one is very different>6 similar flowers, the 7th one is very different>6 similar SOULs, the 7th one is very different>6 similar chapters, the 7th one is very different
>>528862539Some retards still don't get it and never will
>>528862168Kris is sadistic
>>5288635013 and 4 already deviated too much for that
>>528863403>Ralsei takes the napkin from Kris, unwrapping it once more. He takes a few of the small cut up hot dog samples and eats a couple of them whole, chewing on them for a few seconds>His eyes start to widen and begins blushing again, taken aback by the taste>"!!!">"Oh, it's... so yummy!!! It's not like cake at all!", Ralsei says, almost laughing>Ralsei begins to eat the rest of the free samples, a carefree smile running across his face, displaying an excited demeanor >For only a few moments, Ralsei seemed to completely forgot about what it was he was contemplating earlier>"Kris... that was.. really nice. Thank you so much... tell Susie that.. I appreciate it so, so much.", Ralsei says in a soft voice, feelings of gratitude dripping off of every word>"Light world food is much tastier than food in the dark world! ...not that I would really know since, um, I've only ever tasted cake, but it was still great!">"...Kris... I don't have much to give Susie this time around, so.. if you could, just tell her that-">Ralsei pauses for a second to think>"I loved everything she gave me. And tell her that I hope the festival fills her with joy!" Ralsei then flashes a bright, beaming smile, devoid of any worry or sadness>Kris nods and begins to head out>"Oh, Kris!!" Ralsei cries out, right before Kris leaves for the light world>"...It was really, really nice to see you today.", Ralsei says, continuing to flash a bright smile>Kris nods and exits the light world, making their way to the festival
>>528862262>>528863026bro is scared of doe girls lol
Okay, genuine question here do I play Undertale Yellow or finish Undertale on Genocide Route?
I already did it on True Pacifist
>>528857787Serpentine you say
check out this background from another Jackenstein house
>>528862989Yeah that's the best part, now get out of that screen and into this world so we can fuck
>>528862865Kris and Susie definitely grew closer after Chapter 3 and after being invited to church.
>>528863162Alphys is one of the more shadier characters, given her role in Undertale.
So I played deltarune back when it came out in like 2018 but stopped at lancer's dad because I didn't want to kill him assuming this is like undertale does this game have routes like its predecessor? Also, where's frisk? from what I've gathered frisk and kris are not the same guy.
>>528861740Good thing you can grind infinite revives in ch4. I used them all on RK
>>528863658>Kris finally meets back up with Susie, the sun beginning to go down>She has a paper plate filled with various small portion sizes of different carnival foods>"Well, what do you think? I call it.. Sample Mountain.">Kris flatly relays what Ralsei said to them>"!" Susie perks up at the thought of Ralsei enjoying what she gave him>"Heh.. about time he got some real food in him, am I right Kris?" Susie says with a wink>Kris looks at Susie and nods, giving a fairly dramatic thumbs up>"Kris.. you know, we...">Susie's thoughts trail off for a second>"We should really do more for Ralsei some time", Susie says with a warm smileand that's it.
>>528863708Just play the game
>>528863708>spoilerYou literally can't kill him lol. The battle ends after a set number of turns, just wait out his monologue.
>>528863708go back and play it
you don't have to kill Lancer's dad you can outlast him
kind of but not really? and yea different characters
go play it
>>528863708Hear me out Frisk and Kris are the same person
So why doesnt Ralsei turns into stone, or how does he moves.
does anybody have a pdf or screenshots of that interview toby fox did with debug magazine?
>>528863708just play the game
there are routes but chapter 1 doesn't really have one
if you fight and don't spare everyone the outcome is noticeably less happier but no changes that really matter for that chapter
>>528863708if you want a tip for lancer's dad, just keep defending, it will end on its own after a couple rounds
>>528863874There are no good, solid theories for it yet
>>528863480>common early theory was Deltarune being gaster's wacky AU parallel to UT>could unironically be the other way aroundFucking hilarious
>>528863820>>528863924I'm waiting for steam sale because it's relatively complete now but that's in like 10 hours.
So who is inside the closet in the church? The turtle priest?
>>528863708the game has a normal route and a "weird" route
you can play through the game pacifist, and that maximizes the number of NPC's you recruit to your secret base, but just killing enemies isn't enough to put you into the weird route. the weird route is more akin to following playground rumors to trigger a creepypasta
there is no Frisk.
>>528863874whatever he is is probably always on Kris' person. Plus, he always belongs, since he's with Kris.
>>528863981Understandable, now SCRAM before you get spoiled and get back to us once you're caught up
>>528863874I don't think he's an actual darkner and is closer to something like FRIEND or a Titan
>>528863982The Knight. That's why Kris refuses to open the door. They're working in confederacy.
>>528863981Chapter 1 and 2 are still the free demo, go play them first, that'll tell you if you want to pay for more.
>>528863874because he's the prince of darkness. he has hero privileges
>>528863874prince of darkness
>>528864020What if Ralsei is Kris' tulpa of Asriel he made to cope with the Real Asriel ditching Hometown for college?
>>528861619You should stop having fun when it comes at the expense of your child, yes.
>Asgore doesnt know who the knight is, but knows they have a black shard
>Depending on the route, Asgore can come to the conclusion that Kris is the Knight and killed his best friends daughter
>>528863979Dess and Kris sharing a tent during a big family camping trip...
>>528863981Oh shit right chapter 1 and 2 are free, if you download the demo and complete the chapters the game will automatically import your demo saves once you buy and boot up the full game
>>528863480>all the gaster followers are monochromeAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>528864178>getting Kris jailed so Noelle can roam freelywho's in the cage now, dumbass
>Snowgrave route
>You just kill imaginary people, no harm done
>Noelle actually grows confident, even inviting Susie
Whats the issue again.
I should not be up this late, goodnight /utg/. It was fun Ralseiposting again
Take care of yourselves
>>528862989Shut the fuck up faggot. Iโm going to make you rape Noelle.
I am quite fond of this purple thing.
>>528864276Berdly's relegated to being imaginary
>>528864071I doubt Dess has a real body outside the dark world. Or maybe its like those monster Alphy made.
>>528864276The stupid thing is that she's probably going to start killing Lightners to get stronger
>>528864276put me in the screencap
How much you bet Toby pulls this shit?
>>528864361>>528864352She thought it was a dream, honest mistake.
>>528864171Just let people enjoy thingsโฆ selfish prick
>>528864502Des isn't a person anymore
>>528862989Your body, my choice.
>Kris getting deflowered by ThornCOCK Noelle
>>528861530Well when you put it like that Ralsei is a massive pervert. Strange how everyone just rolls with it when it's Ralsei... Some sort of perception field or something.
>>528863591Kris is a switch
>>528864502Dess is forcing Kris to engage in perverted acts involving their brother's sweater.
She's also making them romance his gayer clone.
>>528861842Yes the monsters are pretty dumb and incompetent
Fighting them was probably shooting fish in a barrel
>>528864379The Knight could be hiding in the closet in the same form that we saw them run to the bunker in, though.
>>528864502Dess on the other handโฆ
>>528864650This is why ralsei cant be krisโ fursona because krisโ fursona is a wolf (like every other furry). Unlessโฆ i wonder why ralsei is so loyal like a dog?
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>>528854458i like these guys
>>528864597Ok. Let me enjoy fucking your mom all night long while I lock you outside in the rain. Youโre not allowed to complain, because weโre just having fun.
>>528864646It's a joke that in Ch2 he groped Susie to heal her.
He's shown that he doesn't need physical contact to heal so he was doing that because he could.
>>528864650Dont know what it means for Kris to like being referred to as a dog.
Maybe he'd rather be called anything but Human, even if its slightly demeaning
>>528864779See! Even if it makes me sad you and my mom are pretty happy together. Meaning the total happiness in the world increased!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8U5tnnCvQI
I don't really delve too much into theory making but I find it very odd that people are ignoring such a glaringly obvious hint that's very easily accessible in the files.
Like, a variable named Toriel hiding the identity of one enemy that gets killed without any player input, that also happens to be a representation of a dark coloured deer. The fuck is she hiding from everyone.
>>528864798Kris is a good soldier.
>>528864782>ralsei got more game in 3 days of existing than I have in 21 years
>>528864516Only if you do the weird route
>>528864650the dogpile grows to the moon
From Torielโs perspective, she was just terrorized by some psycho who slashed her tires at night, and the officer who was sent to investigate just fucking disappeared, but the only thing she really cares about is getting drunk and partying with a stranger rather than her child who could be in life threatening danger.
were any of you still interested in that post or no?
>>528858687 >>528858740 >>528858767
>>528857265I don't think those are awards.
They could be dialation tools.
>>528864905Man why'd it have to be Toriel...
That variable name doesn't come out of nowhere...
>>528862529>wake up>already spooning so that's a good premonition>reluctantly get out of bed and make breakfast with morning tea>eat and talk about everything we want to do that day>weekend so I'm privileged to spend all day with him>we start by gardening for a few hours>all the pretty flowers unsuitable for selling I will be placing in his perfect golden hair>get cleaned up together inside>pack lunch we can eat together, along with other picnic supplies>go to nice and flat area looking out on a lake>assemble proper picnic and chow down together>once we've finished our meal we throw some torn up bread to geese wandering about the lake>gather everything up and head out>go about the town, to the store for groceries and other such tasks we had previously planned to do>head home once more>groom ourselves and each other for a special occasion>don our finest attire and head out to a fine dining establishment that I had reserved 2 weeks ago>exquisite food, fine wine, and even a jazz band>all with my favorite person>afterwards we drive a little ways outside of town to a place without as much light pollution>put it one of Asgore's country music CDs>sit on the tailgate together and look at the stars for a while (tight fit since he's very large but we manage)>turn to him and place my hand on his cheek, illuminated by moonlight and the city below>lead each other into a perfect kiss>tldr hot steamy sex ensues>we venture back to our home>the usual nightly routine>rejoin together into bed>I find my rightful place in his arms once more>drift into slumber wrapped in muscular and fluffy blissAll that being said, every day with him is an ideal day with Asgore.
Kris is a good dog to Dess
>>528864905and killing the deer is what transfers control back to Kris
considering the ties the Holidays have to the SOUL, this has some implications
>>528865031I am interested in what everyone posts here. You are all so creative and talented! Every work I see brings a smile to my face!
>>528864749could easily be explained that kris made a goatsona for himself when he was adopted just to try and feel like he belonged more (hence the honrs) and then outgrew it and invented a more genuine dog fursona
>>528857265Was perspective ever this fucked in Earthbound
>>528864905My guess is that Kris did something really horrible and Toriel is trying her best to be ignorant about it. Keeping her eyes shut, maybe.
>>528864798It's symbolic, but also, Kris is just freaky like that
>>528865031My breath is (still) bated.
>>528864516>Kris jumping out of the game and messing up my desktop for playing the Deltarune because we cannot sit down and talk like civilized peoplecan't wait
Does any of you have the Berserk meme where the SOUL is femto and He *PROCEEDs Noelle in front of Kris?
>>528864516Genuinely how the FUCK did the character's sprite leave the application?
>>528864905It's fucking baffling how little this gets brought up if i'm honest
This was a good exercise. Might need to figure out a proper outfit for King, he looks more like Lancer or a chibi-fied version of himself.
>>528864757Oh my god this is AMAZING!!!! I didn't expect this at all, imagine my shock right as I was gonna post. I'm absolutely blown away, thank you so so much!
Does anyone have the picture of Peyton Manning in Deltarune.
Thank you.
>>528865121>thesis>antithesis>synthesisNot reading hagel has never been so enriching
So Kris cant spend long without the soul or he gets hurt and weak? Was it the demon summoning?
>>528865264Okay good I didn't miss it, I was breathing the whole time.
>>528864798Dogs lack freedom and are led around by someone else on a leash. It's similar to the puppet symbolism.
>>528865336Kris is just weird
>>528865084*exhales and turns dess into steaks*
What now punks?
>>528864905dess is just gonna be a mari situation, ain't she
>>528865467Susie... calm down...
>Kris majorly fucks up and does something bad to Dess by accident
>Tries to tell their mother, the one person who's supposed to believe them all the way
>She feigns ignorance and continues to gaslight and baby Kris for several years
>Divorces Asgore because he started saying the same shit
How ruined would her character be?
>>528865084Dogs shouldnโt be smoking weed
>>528863026Seems plausible. Especially given noelle seems to have a habit of playing down a d suppressing past trauma. Or even active violence like susie sperging out at kris in the blog post. So maybe dess did do a lot worse to kris than merely smacking him around
>>528865576>ruinedmore like based
The art of the shadowmantle with a huge ass isn't very appealing but when it's a little leaner it's cool, what do I call this feeling?
>>528865350Hope it at least entertained you, not my finest schizo textdump
>>528865576Toriel was always a shitty mother and a shitty selfish person, even in UT
>>528865481This image made a billion tumblristas coom and clap 10/10 masterpiece of the year
https://rentry.co/SusiezillaAttacks
>>528865279The crown and belly mouth are the two main things that visually set him apart from his son, so it might help to try to incorporate them somehow.
>>528865639It was understandable in UT because who the fuck chooses to kill children and doom their people over just opening the damn barrier and getting the other souls
>>528835738The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he wasnt chinese
>>528865616having standards
>>528865481Well we've got SOULs and possession and shit so I doubt it's that simple.
* December was consumed by darkness...
>>528865598I mean, smacking around a little kid's probably a bit too far. And it wasn't just plastic whiffle bats, either.
>>528865336I think Toby wants an unobservant player to think this, but I don't think it's actually the truth. Notice that all the words during the phone call in Noelle's house have a "..." between them.
We see that heartless Kris is still incredibly fast when he wants to be.
Susie also calls Kris the class zombie at the very start of Chapter 1, before they even know each other.
Kris is just weird.
A japanese indie dev would never have removed the rose. They wouldve ignored complaints or told twitter theyd be ashamed of their words and deeds
>>528865805Especially when it gets blood everywhere seriously that little shit sure can bleed huh
>>528864798Kris is way too into it for it to be an "anything but human please" thing.
Like, when you stack up all the interactions, there's no way Kris doesn't kinda get off to it. Kris's fursona is a dog basically.
>>528865824>Notice that all the words during the phone call in Noelle's house have a "..." between them.that's to indicate we're only to make out bits and pieces of what's being said
Kris is a dog, FRIEND is a cat - Friend is the AntiKris/AntiChrist
>>528865735wish there was a cum town cameo in the game to reflect this mindset.
>>528865824Noelle says something along the lines of "weak and shaky" to describe soulless Kris in the weird route, and he goes out of his way to try to prevent Noelle from saying that out loud so I doubt it's an act.
>>528865084>the "flowers" ablaze im chapter 5 is just The Knight lighting up and shotgunning Kris
>>528865719Are you retarded like Toriel? Asgore would get his shit wrecked if he went with her braindead plan, just like Asriel.
>>528865719>and getting the other soulswhich....would 99.9% guarantee even more killing and bloodshed, far more than 7 people
What Toriel suggested was genuinely on par if not worse than Asgore, I will never understand why people coddle Toriel genuinely. Especially since she seemingly had no remorse in what she believed in, while Asgore was clearly fucking affected by the whole situation
Even if Kris blames themself for what happened to Dess, I 100% believe it wasn't really Kris's fault, and Dess doesn't blame Kris.
The knight may be Dess's body or something but it's not her desires.
>>528865906That's exactly what that post is pointing out
>>528864642SOUL transferring to Noelle!
Kris cowering at home!
Being let inside since it's Noelle and Toriel trusts us!
RAPING KRIS AS HE CRIES
>>528865214>Linear story: Good>Player freedom: Evil
>>528865576Youโre saying that like she wasnโt always awful.
>>528862262>>528863026One important thing that no one remembers is that we have no idea if something even happened to Dess.
Everyone's randomly, magically assuming she's missing or dead or some accident happened with her, even though there's literally zero dialogue that even suggests that.
It's a fan theory that's gone out of control at this point. People think it's fact.
>>528866003>>528866010Thats an unknown value. Humans killed a kid trying the same plan, does that mean the plan is bad, or just that Asriel was a literal child who didnt even wanna hurt anybody?
>>528865962Kris was weak and shaky because they just ran around carrying Berdly, who is bigger than them, to the hospital and then broke into the Holiday mansion within a really limited timeframe.
>>528865576>nooo why isn't my character perfect it's ruined now!
>>528865872Yeah because there would have been a literal rape scene in the game in the first place.
Does someone have the Berserk Rape meme with SOUL and Noelle?
>>528865481It's going to be much more occult and fucked up, probably to the point where only Toby's shield of 'I made Undertale' will let him get away with writing it down.
>>528866091all players do when given freedom is find new ways to torment the NPC's
>>528866119>magically assuming she's missingThe December page on Deltarune.com leads to a unique 404 and Noelle is constantly searching "December Holiday"
>>528866119Dess is missing though, CH 2 spells it out for you.
>>528865901Kris is Toby's self-insert
>dog fursona>piano autism>hand injury>likes video games>thinks anime is cringe
Friend is Dess's mangled corpse. Once you beat the game all Friends become hyperrealistic bloody hellDess's on repeat playthroughs.
>>528866210Actually I want to use my freedom to sexually pleasure the NPCs
>>528865927>chapters 8 through 10 are short guest-written chapters>one of them is written by nick mullen
>>528866210Toby is the one providing bad freedom. He could choose to do what he did in undertale and have an option to go out of your way to be good for meaningful changes
>>528866314kid i remember you're snowgraves
>>528866131>Thats an unknown valueYou know what happened to Asriel who is as harmless as they come
Now, imagine what they would do if they saw this pop out of the barrier instead
>>528866080>since it's Noelle and Toriel trusts us!and there's the line said so many times before
>I got locked out of my house again.
>>528866332He does. That's what recruitment is all about
>>528866091There's no evidence that Seam or FRIEND for that matter is evil or that Kris is good
>>528866010Because players spend a lot more time with Toriel than Asgore, and are willing to turn a blind eye to her flaws because sheโs the first friendly character they meet.
>>528866369I think Gaster might actually be opposed to FRIEND. Friend may be a malicious glitch in Gaster's creation he brought us in to purge
>>528866407Remember, FRIEND is with us in the dark.
>>528866404Recruitment has thus far provided little outside of castle town dialogue. Wheres my HOPE route where I inject hope into susieโs eyeballs, allowing her to kill her bitch of a father by herself
>>528866360I honestly think the reason Asgore didn't go to the surface wasn't due to being a coward or weak; it was because he fucking knew if he went out there the Humans would probably just exterminate the entire Underground in retaliation.
>>528865824Calling Kris weird is funny because the entire town is populated by weirdos
>>528866475I will ride the "FRIEND dindu" train until conclusively proven wrong. People just assume FRIEND is bad because it's some kind of demon from hell, but Toby likes SMT, demons aren't necessarily bad.
>>528866360>TACTICAL NUKE INCOMING
>>528866472FRIEND is what lets us get away with deviations from the "railroad".
Gaster is a scientist, giving us more ways to experiment and make progress is naturally a good thing for him.
>>528866329>it's literally just a bit about a gay chinese monster stretched out for a whole chapter
>>528865598The issue I have is that a lot of the manipulation could just solely be placed on Carol.
>>528866472ENTRY 17 music is mus_smile and Gaster opened a dark world
Maybe FRIEND scattered Gaster across time and space
I used to think that guy who posts the Muffet dialogue about a shapeshifting smile looking for Frisk was a hyper-schizo, but I think im becoming a hyper-schizo too. The wiki says mus_smile is Muffet's laugh sound super slowed down and reversed, which makes another connection.
>>528862262>>528863026>Kris's best friend was a random goofy side character's sister and its revealed when the story is 70% doneToby, this sucks. If the reason Kris's side of the room is empty is because he had hundreds of pictures with Dess on the wall I'm getting a refund
>>528866507There's a reason the secret 8th Flying Ace tells you to let your town's love grow. Don't be afraid to dream!
>>528866731the fuck do you mean there was an 8th?
The player cannot be the angel because I absolutely would not "meet with my desire" were I to be banished. My desire is for every character to get a happy ending and survive and for me to see them happy
>>528866525Extremely Kino. A potential add on is you're as weak as you are in the Holliday vents segment so they easily beat you in an actually unwinnable fight. But then you can open the game again, and again, and again... and they get tired, the fight becomes winnable and every time you lose it's a little easier.
>>528866696Well I suppose somebody has to be an asshole for no good reason
>>528866865>is Undertale overrated?
>I'm the angel because I saw myself in my glossy screen at the prophecy
>>528863816Cute green, anon. It's nice to see you here in the thread again
>>528866837from their perspective, you've been banished
from your perspective, you're satisfied, finished with the game and stopped playing
>>528866719>side characterCatti?
So when will Violent/Neutral route pay off? So far there's only disadvantages, but there has to be a payoff at the end, right?..
>>528866624FRIEND is a horrible demon creature but he's also someone we've been working with for quite a while.
He set up Noelle.
He set up NEO.
He set up MiniKris.
His color palette is the CMYK way to make Red, (Our) color.
He's the reason we can heal during the Mantle fight.
He makes his presence known to us.
He's also kind of a dick but that's what friends are for, aren't they.
>>528865279They are cool
I agree that King's design could use some work, I'm sure there's some good changes that could be made.
>>528866529>>528866131>>528866010>>528866003Why do people ignore that Asgore had top scientists working on alternatives to break the barrier so he wouldnt have to go out and murder people. If Gaster didnt isekai himself into his Deltarune it wouldve worked.
>>528867031>there has to be a payoff at the end, right?.No. At the end you'll be told "nice job fucko but you didn't recruit everyone so you only get a D rank on your win screen"
>>528865238Because it's a PC program. It's impossible on consoles.
>>528866946I have a matte screen and saw nothing
>>528867121>If Gaster didnt isekai himself into his Deltarune it wouldve worked.Who said it won't?
He is scattered across time and space after all and there's nothing stopping him from retroactively changing things.
>>528866719Dess is not a side character
>>528867268That's part of why the "theory" is retarded but it's something people genuinely parrot. That Susie is reacting to your face, as if she's never seen a human before and as if the median Deltarune player isn't a teenage girl or something
What the FUCK is
>The king of only
>>528867378it's pretty self-explanatory
>>528867121What scientists? There was really only Gaster, who is a singular scientist. Alphys was always a complete fraud.
Hello anons, and anonettes, this is โnoelle is my wife IRLโfag with an update on my exploits in trying to draw noelle
There's been so much talk about FRIEND lately that we've forgotten about this fella...
>>528865576It wasn't Kris. It was Asriel. Asriel got in a fight or something with Dess and accidentally gets her killed or knocked out or something, they hide her body in the Shelter. Kris is traumatized but Asriel makes them promise not to tell. Toriel can tell Kris is keeping a secret but is upset and takes them to therapy. Toriel then starts to coddle Kris, Asgore gets obsessed with the missing Holiday kid, he starts to secretly suspect Asriel ,he tries telling Toriel, the family gets dysfunctional.
>>528867285Dess is not a character
>>528867480Everyman is a cool dude who's special ability is that he does nothing.
Genuinely, he takes up an enemy slot but doesn't actually attack it's great.
>>528867378don't know but it sounds badass. Maybe it means that Tenna thinks of himself as the one true source of entertainment
>>528867468Carol wishes this daughter disappeared instead of December.
I wish you all wonderful anons a nice day!
>>528867480it's the ice-e diner guy. someone there says theres an employee putting butterflies in people's food
>>528867468Your wife ugly as hell dayum
Kris is lucky they're Cyan (Anti-Red) in the Dark World
>The heroine appears
The heroine appears
>>528867468Cute but she looks 10 years old.
>>528867601Thanks, you too anon
No head is connected.
No body is connected.
No arms are connected.
No legs are connected.
No skin is connected.
No ears are connected.
No face is connected.
No mouth is connected.
No vessel is connected.
catti and jockington will be in the chapter 5 dark world change my mind.
Good night my lovelies :)
>>528866369>this is Tenna trying to call G. Spamton
>>528867835No wifi is connected
>>528868052Please restart your router.
So who's on the phone with Kris in Noelle's house?
>>528867581Screw u
>>528867641Screw u
>>528867798Erm yeah its called animu buddy
Here, obligatory noelle doodle. The middle one. Ignore the one on the right.
>>528868162someone in the dark world and they have a really bad connection because dark world
>>528868094sex with monsters
berserk guts rage i know you're here
>>528868162Unclear, it seems like its the knight, could be dess, is probably carol.
>>528865709Good point, I think I left out the bellymouth in particular since it was a bit too 'monstrous', though the crown definitely needs to be implemented for sure somehow.
>>528867083You spoil me, you made them super cute in your drawing! I love Queen pose especially here, It's exactly how I imagine her carrying herself. Thank you again!
>>528868197that's not noelle that's corkboard pippins
>>528868218You can't use your phone at all so I can't imagine it's that
>>528868253It's not Carol because she calls you at the end of Chapter 4's weird and sounds normal, while the person who calls you in Chapter 4's normal sounds distorted
The knight looks like a Titan not because there's any ontological connection here, but because it's a edgelord shapeshifter. In reality there's no more connection than those jazz-loving Shadowguys.
>>528866773In chapter 3, there's 6 of the "Seven Flying Aces." One of them says, "there's not 7? If you were good at counting cards, you wouldn't need to cheat."
In chapter 4, the missing seventh Ace is in the egg room. But there's a Rudinn in Castle Town, the one who knows that the town is named PLAYERtown, whose color is fading. It's a monochrome copy that got colored in, like the other Aces. It's secretly the eighth Ace, because Kris really is bad at counting.
>>528868162Catti.
>terse, laconic speaking style>always on her phone>studied occult with kris
>>528865336I'm starting to think the soul isn't the important life support Kris can barely survive minutes without that everyone assumed it to be, because there is no fucking way he'd be able to do everything he does in one night without it.
He just naturally moves like a zombie because it makes him feel cool.
>>528868197Hey wait a second
tail
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I never saw this one
what's up with the tail, is it really FRIEND or is it about Susie? or is it a pun on "the tale"
>>528868197>"My head is not long!"If I was Berdly, I would be pulling out a tape measure to mathematically show that her head is long to show how smart I am
>>528868094does susie lay eggs or does she give birth like mammals
>>528867810sex with this goober gooter.... NOW!!
>>528853101A moment of appreciation for the most aesthetic Mike, if you will
If Noelle saw her mother in Kris' contacts, would he pretend he was fucking her mom to maintain his cover?
>>528868371Her head is so long it invaded the textโs space
>>528868336How do you know that the Chapter 4 egg room ace and the Castle Town ace aren't the same guy? What if they just secretly followed us
>>528866946You are legitimately braindead if you haven't noticed all of the glaring angel symbolism surrounding the player. The theory existed since chapter 1, it has nothing to do with that entirely missable prophecy screen.
>>528868447Susie is a chalk eater and milk drinker
she needs that calcium for egg
>>528868329Kris didn't use the speaker at the end of ch4 weird route, that's why she's not distorted. "I'll be right there" is 100% Carol. Not sure about the kitchen call, or normal route ending call, it could be anyone.
>>528868348he only does that when he thinks you can't see him
perhaps he wants you to think he's incapacitated without you, or he's just an edgelord aura farming
>>528868484Yes, and it would be very easy because they actually are fucking in addition to the conspiracy they're involved in.
>>528867037FRIEND is our humble servant after all
>>528868550Considering the fact we send the souls out to dodge attacks in both games I must presume the actual distance from the human doesnโt matter whatsoever as long as the soul is intact
How do we know Frisk and Kris aren't the same person?
>>528868501It could be, but I think it's more likely that there's eight considering the line about Kris not counting well. It's like how there's eight humans who fell underground in Undertale, but two are special.
>>528868762because one's in undertale and the other's in deltarune
>>528867468Wow! Good art!
...Why does she have a swastika in her hair?
>>528862767>>528862865the darkworld tea and how Kris reacts to Susie without us shows he likes her a lot, he also kinda likes Noelle and Ralsei but half as much as Susie.
>>528868887You clearly havenโt been on the UTG magma that much have you
>>528868940No, it is very intimidating. So much beautiful art at once... my heart simply can't take it!!
>>528867810STOP TURNING ME BISEXUAL
>>528868940>>528868998Go on and have a look anon
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>>528868998Beyond UTG4 its pretty much exclusively swastikas and noelle
>>528869010Nobody is trying to turn you bisexual anon, they're trying to turn you gay
>>528868517Noelle is the angel
>>528869010why don't you want to be bi
Can anyone answer these questions
>Why does the knight need the police and church if it already knows the code to the shelter
>Why isn't the knight double dipping on every fountain to bring on the roaring if that's their goal
>If Chapter 3 and 4's fountains were to hit the police and church, what was the point of Chapter 1 and 2's fountains
>Why did the knight make two fountains in chapter 4 before they even knew kris and susie were coming
>Why is the knight giving shadow crystals to shitty targets like Jevil and Spamton instead of stronger entities like King, Queen, or Tenna
>Is the video game kris a different entity from the mantle
>Where does video game kris go after you walk them offscreen
>Who kidnaps petrified Ramb and why
>>528869010I'LL MAKE YOU FUCK YOUR BROTHER AZZY
>>528869143Noelle is just a puppet for the angel
>>528868540>she needs that calcium for eggHoly shit. Teen pregnancy theory? Who's daddy? Is it described in prophecy? Or is it just lizard period? Will Kris and Susie eat that egg when it comes out?
>>528869124Where do I find a boy like this?
>>528869251Your Best Nightmares
>>528869243lizard period
egg will be stored in dark world
it will be named "Susie Jr"
>>528869183For the last one, I donโt know where mini-Kris goes offscreen, but if you walk it back up during the cutscene and make Susie unplug the controller by saying you didnโt enjoy it, the mini-Kris instantly dies.
Why is chapter 5 only taking a year to develop
>>528868478Please give me more fat tennas ily anon
>>528869401He got together a team...
>>528869291LIFE IS A NIGHTMARE WHERE ARE THE BOYS??
>>5288694013,4,&5 were all meant to release together, but something came up and now 5 has to be delayed
>>528869183>it's trying to get rid of other people who know the code, also it needs sacrifices for whatever reason>it's following the prophecy>again, following the prophecy, Lancer and Queen need to appear>they knew Kris and Susie were coming because Kris is cooperating with the Knight>it's still unknown what the Shadow Crystals are for>yes>unknown, but one of the characters in the S-rank room says Kris just walked by>unknown, probably a plot point for the sword route's continuation in a future chapter
does anyone else think
1) kris killed asriel and carries his ashes
2) ralsei is the knife
>>528868801Well Sans undertale is the same of deltarune checkmate
>>528869010I CAN DO ANYTHING
i BELIEVE in future Ramb hyperwerewire fight with freedom motif
>>528869251you can't, furries aren't real
>>528869481that's because he's Sans "Gaster" undertale so he's special
>>528869401Nintendo took over the development
>>528869401Toby hired a slave master to whip him into shape so he'll actually finish working in a reasonable timeframe
>>528869243we will get an hour long unskippable susie oviposition and (You) will like it
>>528869401Toby got turned into a cybork
>>528869448You're cursed to want things you can't have forever. Closest you can get is maybe a furry convention or something, but you'd be settling for imitation. That's what makes it a nightmare, I'm sorry anon.
>>528869401Because Producer-sama beat the shit out of Toby for spending 90% of current dev-time on Ch3 minigames and now he's not gonna do that ever again
>>528869535>>528869653If god is real then why did he curse us with imagination?
It's just not fair
All these fucking posers latching onto Dess who didn't even know she existed in 1/2.
I CLAIMED Dess for myself before release. She belongs to me. I committed no matter what she's done or what she looks like. All Dess fanart is exclusively my girlfriend.
>>528869746it's so when we play god we have something to work towards
>>528869690We'll get a bunch of minigames in sporadic updates after the game is finished. It'll be an eternal game.
>>528869536I mean we already have Sans what's stopping Frisk being Kris
>>528869183>Can anyone answer these questions >>Why does the knight need the police and church if it already knows the code to the shelterthe point is to keep susie out. Phone specifies that Susie learning the code is the thing to be prevented
>>Why isn't the knight double dipping on every fountain to bring on the roaring if that's their goalthe knight knows something we don't. either just summoning titans willy nilly isn't enough to trigger the roaring, or there's some extra goal the knight wants to fulfill first
>>If Chapter 3 and 4's fountains were to hit the police and church, what was the point of Chapter 1 and 2's fountainsTo get the ball rolling. the knight opening fountains and then kris sealing them, all in accordance with the prophecy, is part of the knight's plan
>>Why did the knight make two fountains in chapter 4 before they even knew kris and susie were comingthe knight knew they were coming.
>>Why is the knight giving shadow crystals to shitty targets like Jevil and Spamton instead of stronger entities like King, Queen, or TennaProbably so Kris can collect them all without Susie or Ralsei questioning how he got them
>>Is the video game kris a different entity from the mantleprobably
>>Where does video game kris go after you walk them offscreenwe'll meet again
>>Who kidnaps petrified Ramb and whyeither the darkner hiding behind the curtain or someone hiding underneath that suss as fuck manhole
>>528869746you can find someone with similar likes and interests as yours
he'd still just be a guy though
you'd have an easier time finding such a person than straights do, at least, count your blessings on that
>>528869746It gets easier after a few years, you may even find a real person hold you in the hard times and make it not hurt so much.
>>528869931the manhole is the z-rank access
>>5288691831. the goal of ch3's dark world (instigated by kris via opening the fountain and slashing the tires) was to kidnap undyne, (in chapter 4 we're also told via the phone there'll be a police sacrifice next week) not to get her code, Kris' actions in chapter 4 imply he's aware of the code and is trying to hide it from Susie (since the phone also instructs him to keep her away) so whatever conspiracy is going on behind the scenes they already know the code and are trying to keep it away from susie who seems to be a rogue element in the entire prophecy/plot. im assuming the same thing goes for the church with the target potentially being alvin since we didnt see him after we closed the fountains. as for what the purpose is, that's likely related to the greater plot at hand,
2. il go with occam's razor in here and assume it means that their goal is not simply to bring about the roaring, my assumption is that kris/carol/knight in whatever shape or form their relationship is currently operating require (us) for something later down the line, so they're pacing themselves and stringing us along towards some greater objective (maybe sacrificing (us) to somehow revive dess' soul or some such)
3. il assume the same answer as 2. as a means of stringing (us) along and going along with the prophecy, (Kris obviously doesnt really like us currently since we're kinda operating against his desires but hes forced to deal with us while all the pieces are put into place
4. this one im not sure about it mightve been a safety measure to keep us in the church longer while they were out doing something or kidnapping alvin (assuming that was their goal) but yeah i dont have much of an answer for this
5. unsure about this one as well but either there's a grander goal that requires us to get the crystals and do something that the knight and co. cannot put ideas into (our) head and keep (us) engaged in our adventure and follow the prophecy.
the rest are kinda ehh relevant imo so idk
No god of hypertwink sex?
o-oh... ok...
So if we are the same Player that experienced Undertale, why the fuck it's not utilized more? We should be able to call Toriel even after Kris deleted her contact. We should be able to call Alphys, Papyrus, etc.
>>528869931>To get the ball rolling. the knight opening fountains and then kris sealing them, all in accordance with the prophecy, is part of the knight's planHow do we know the knight is trying to fulfill the prophecy and on the angel's side
>Probably so Kris can collect them all without Susie or Ralsei questioning how he got themExcept Susie and Ralsei do question him because half the time he fucks off alone to do a sidequest
>that suss as fuck manholeIt's how you access the backstage when getting a Z-Rank
Guys... what if chapter 5 sucks?
>>528870012knight and co. or put ideas*
>>528870051why? We don't know their numbers.
>>528870051But we don't know their numbers. That information was never presented to us.
>>528870109We do, tho. From Undertale.
Does anyone else feel like 7 chapters just isn't enough time to meaningfully develop every idea proposed and satisfyingly conclude every lingering plot thread?
I mean, it definitely is, but it doesn't feel like the game has pushed itself hard enough to combine all of it. We're at the halfway mark and we're still introducing concepts like the tail of hell or whatever the hell is up with the Shadow Mantle. Furthermore, the only plot threads that have "linked up" so to speak are (Whatever's Going On With Kris <-> The Roaring Knight's Motives and Methods.) It just feels like we're nowhere near started yet we're halfway through the game.
I claim that (You) are Dess because I feel like "fluffy boy" is something she would say
and I like to think about Dess making Kris act all perverted and weird around their brother and his sweaters and that's the real reason he left
>>528870079>>528870007what the fuck?
What's inside the manhole?
>>528870051>alternate reality>"the phone numbers should be the same"???
deltarune doesn't access any undertale save data. the game assumes you have done at least one run of Undertale, and literally nothing else. all information from Undertale that the DELTARUNE player is aware of is obtained on every route through the game. the phone number for toriel is the only one received on the genocide route. for us to know the others, DELTARUNE would have to assume something about how we played Undertale, which the game isn't willing to do.
>>528870204the z-rank room
>>528870173So what's Toriel's phone number?
>>528870204Pic related.
Get a Z-Rank and talk to the ABC room Zapper. He opens a new Z door.
Inside is Spamton's phone (you hear nothing on the other side), posters of Tenna and Spamton together, and a manhole.
Interacting with the manhole puts you in the video game room behind the curtain.
>>528870032better to have a relationship that'll last beyond twink death anyway
one day your bf will age and actually look like a man, if you aren't ok with that then stick with women god help you
>>528870173Why would they have the same phone numbers in an alternate universe?
>>528870190Basically 5-7 needs to go hard on revelations and connections.
5 takes place the day of the festival so we're definitely getting to reveals territory soon. We're also getting the pure crystal soon.
If you're a very good boy you might get chapter 0 as a treat.
>>528870204one way to get access to the shadow mantle quest line is through getting or buying S-rank. if, instead, you get Z rank, you can access a secret z-rank room containing a manhole that links to the one backstage.
>>528870296>>528870342well shit. I even got a Z rank in one of the rounds and completely missed that
>>528870243This isn't entirely accurate. The Wrong Number Song is referenced even though it only appears at certain fun values.
>>528870296If you use this method to play Mantle every time, does Ramb still turn to stone behind the counter? Does he just disappear? Can you access the S Room area by going south of the stage?
>>528870307Gaster runs the phone company
Obligatory noelle doodle as she is my IRL wife
>>528870464then they can't have the same phone number because they'd get calls from other universes
>>528869595https://files.catbox.moe/3qriq9.jpg
>>528867349That's a very good effort of making the art style fit.
anyone got that image talking about the forked tail in the prophecy? I went looking through the last few threads but couldn't spot it
>>528863874He said that his fountain is โpure darknessโ and can sustain the form of any darkner. Considering heโs an extension of that fountain, then that could just be the reason he can exist anywhere. Heโs just born more formed/complete than anything the Knight or Kris could summon.
>>528870321>5 takes place the day of the festival so we're definitely getting to reveals territory soonUndertale reveals almost nothing until the final fight, and even then you know almost nothing until you actually beat the game and reload to go down to the lab.
There's a very high chance that we learn nothing meaningful in Chapters 5 and 6.
>>528870423The wrong number song in Deltarune isn't a reference to Undertale. The Wrong number song in Undertale is a reference to Deltarune.
All the FUN events are Deltarune references.
>>528870307Because they have same names and same faces.
>>528870082I survived chapter 3 sucking, I can handle it. But I have no reason to think chapter 5 is gonna be bad
>>528870589Toriel standing there looking shocked afterwards cracks me up
>>528866838Anon that made that greentext. thats actually what I thought, it would be super cool right
>>528870302>your bf will age and actually look like a manA life hack that can get you around this problem is to become a barafag, but the gap between femboys and women is smaller than femboys and big buff men so I can see that being an issue.
>>528870296Now I really want to know who was on the phone
Clippit of the magma artboard
what do you think it tastes like?
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>>528870538>the phone in undertale was originally gonna be a character>alphys orders a pizza despite there being no pizza place in the underground>sans asks if your refrigerator's running so he can deliver the brewskis yet never references such a thing ever again>the wrong number song
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good morning /utg/. how are you guys doing?
>>528870845Nobody. It was a person who doesn't exist. But nonexistance is only a handicap if you let it be
>>528870884salty milk and coins
>>528870927>subliminal tulpaposting
>>528870729>SOUL that talks like this the entire time>It's really REALLY annoying >"Give ral's a smoochie, he deserves a smoochie">"mfw dino gf is sad :'(">The thing is, it actually makes the weird route even more horrifying
>the prophecy is cyclical
>previous instance had a human vessel and Ralsei-like prince of the dark that both existed solely for the prophecy
>Dess was the girl hero
>Asriel and Kris got involved accidentally, similar to Noelle and Berdly, which is why Asriel has a cyber city wallpaper
>the previous human vessel gave their SOUL to Dess and got "gonered" out of existence so no one remembers them
>the previous grand fountain got sealed with that SOUL, erasing the previous prince of the dark
>Dess got lost in the dark to stop the Roaring, but ended up becoming the Knight
>Carol got Kris involved in a scheme to re-enact the prophecy to try to rescue Dess
>same situation is set to repeat with Kris, Ralsei, and Susie, which is why Kris detached themself from everyone in Hometown, Ralsei keeps saying not to care about him, and Susie's title at the start is "Dark Knight"
>>528870190Chapter 7 is going to be as long as the rest of the game because it's going to actually be 'Make your ending' but for real where you get a devkit to write your own ending.
HOWEVER!
There will actually be a way to make the true ending out of this which will be very long and linear but you get to customize all the details.
>>528870884Probably similar to Chara's goop.
Reminder that the darkness = water motif isnโt just metaphorical or visual, and itโs actually literal too. Onionsan disappears investigating the lake, and other strange occurrences happen there with Clamgirl and the penguin guy who were both goners in UT. Thereโs the slowed down garbage noise underneath Noelleโs house too. Carol doesnโt just bottle water because itโs quirky- thereโs literally darkness contamination seeping into the water.
>>528869401It isn't, Chapter 5 has been in development since the start of last September, which was nearly 10 months ago.
>>528870884black ice and obsidian
>>528868285Check the Magma if you haven't anon, the utg7 canvas has a lot of art that you'd like
>>528870575It's really like that huh
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>>528870716I have the same name and same face but my phone number changed when I got a different cell service provider. Which you would presumably do if you lived on the surface instead of underground.
>Asriel is the Death/Scythe-type boss
How would you feel about that? Berdly and Susie already had fights, so the Lightner boss is possible.
>>528871045holy shit, I didn't even think about carol bottling water being important in that specific manner. you might be onto something anon
>>528871051it happened to me, it can happen to you
>>528870884Black licorice.
>>528860115>when the light is running low>and the shadows start to grow
>>528870884If youโve ever done machining work, it tastes like coolant and is black because its completelt saturated with oil and metal shavings
>>528871045>dark worlds are a metaphor for lead poisoning>Kris bath bombed the toilet to try to clean the lead out of the pipes
>>528871203reminder: every conch once had something living in it
>>528871203I still think Kriss could be the knight if the knight is like their stand power or something.
Post the horniest image you have.
>>528871154Toriel and Asgore shouldn't be alive at the same time as Catty & all other monsters, because they're centuries older than them. Without boss magic they wouldn't have infinite lifespan. And yet here we are.
Good night /utg/, hope you all have comfy dreams of fave and get to make the most of tomorrow.
I love Chara
>>528871372I could see it being a thing where the knight has no agenda or agency of its own and instead obeys whoever has the most DETERMINATION up until someone else with lots of DETERMINATION gives it new orders, kinda like how the heartless in kingdom hearts just obey anyone strong and dark enough
>>528869010>enter goat game thread on purpose>look at goat man on purpose>penis twitches>"WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME REEEE"Nobody's doing anything to you. Take responsibility for your own actions.
>>528871545THIS IS A BLUEBOARD YOU SICK FUCK BAKA
>>528864650You forgot to mention tasque manager saying that kris can be an animal too
neverending night reminds me of outer wilds
>Chapter 5 egg requires you to open the game exactly at December 25th, 21:03 of real life date and time.
How mad would you be?
>>528871638I didn't type baka. why the fuck did it add baka to my message. what route do I take here? do I just kill myself?? is this karma????
>>528871697we already have the hint for the c5 egg
>>528870194imagine getting possessed by your brother's missing girlfriend
>>528871206I don't have much hope, but there's still some I guess
>>528871215>Black licorice.Baased
>>528871203Roaring Knight DEFINITELY has Kris' original soul
>>528858161Deltarune is actually deep state brainwashing to integrate the concept of doublethink, the act of holding two contradictory beliefs at once, into the minds of young gamers. Toby Fox is dead, his brand is no longer his own. Nintendo is in on it. Stay vigilant.
>>528864265A lot of people forget that Castle Town is at the bottom of a pit. Remember in Ch1 that you physically enter the closet and can walk around for a bit in your light world clothes, before the floor gives out and you fall down into the dark world.
And in Noelle's basement, we hear the Shelter theme. So we know the Shelter connects to different places in town.
It's entirely possible that the shelter runs under the whole town, and Castle Town's fountain and the Shelter fountain are the same one. It would explain how Ralsei can travel between every fountain, and also why Ralsei never senses the Shelter fountain at all (because it's not a "new" fountain).
>>528871726Yes. It's 1225 and 213
>jevelle
>spamelle
when are we getting mantelle and grandma
>>528866360Asgore has actual training unlike asriel
>>528871821where did you get 213 from?
>>528871810>depicting Frisk as the exact opposite of how they appear in-game
>>528870194Unless you're a bipedal reindeer in real life, that's objectively false.
>>528869183>Why isn't the knight double dipping on every fountain to bring on the roaring if that's their goalI strongly suspect that the Roaring destroys the world and creates a new one, the nature of which depends on the circumstances it occurred under. This could provide reasonable motives, and keep the players misdirected by having multiple characters working to bring about the Roaring for different ends. It would also be similar to like 3 different series that we know inspired these games.
>>528871906Toriel's parental lock code
>>528871945...or that's what the Knight Cult believes. In reality it just destroys the world.
And here is the full Dess and Kris story from yesterday that the Janitors deleted for some reason.
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toby... toby please i need answers... are you there toby? toby...
>>528872024oh yeah i'm not sure there's a deeper lore meaning to that number. i think it's literally just the code toriel used to stop asriel and kris seeing the sexy gators.
>>528871965I kinda stopped liking canon Sans when he said he would totally slaughter me if not for the goat puss. If you're depressed wreck, continue to do so quietly, no need to do bragging threats or whatever it was.
>>528870927yea no I dont subscribe to this theory
He WILL appear in Chapter 5.
He WILL save the day at the most desperate moment.
And "His Theme" WILL play when he does so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tf-gVaHdag
>>528871413That I currently have saved:
>https://files.catbox.moe/vnue8p.jpg>https://files.catbox.moe/0ks74o.png>https://files.catbox.moe/8842wx.png
Is there any evidence that he's still out there?
>>528872247>not SAVE the World
>>528872160The SOUL is (You). If you're Dess in real life, then sure, your theory is right.
>>528872247this post was fact checked as TRUE by real undertale/deltarune fans
>>528872302That plays after the appearance/reveal during the fight.
>>528872376wait SAVE the World or Hopes and Dreams?
>>528863708You cant kill shit in this game just like that, dumbass.
What do you think of the Gerson rap that was posted a few threads ago?
https://vocaroo.com/18NByllXkpjH
>>528872247nah it'll be Your Worst Nightmare just to be funny
The SOUL is a locket containing piles of Dess dust also known as Dest
>>528872548Post it on YouTube you hacks
>>528872695less dead than Suselle I'd say
The SOUL overhearing Asgore licking the toilet bowl
The SOUL is (Me) and (I)'m going to fuck Kris
https://youtu.be/JGhTf3Hf7dk
deltarune chapter 3 if toby and temmie were still the only devs
>>528872674I do not understand this reaction.
The SOUL is aggressively smelling Asriel's clothing
>>528872758Unironically the whole depth of her crush
>>528872732But Suselle gets all the canon scenes...
>>528871809>It's entirely possible that the shelter runs under the whole town, and Castle Town's fountain and the Shelter fountain are the same one.This is actually a great theory. Opens up some interesting implications about why the Holiday mansion would have a basement that connects to the shelter.
>>528872695Fuck Squad Polycule ft. Noelle is real and eternal
>>528872843Berdly coming in to [with the steal chair]!
>>528871203if Kris and The Knight are both working together and make the same poses, but one is taller?
That's fucking Asriel. They used to play around like that.
THE FUCKING KNIGHT IS ASRIEL.
>>528872956The Five Man Band has been assembled!
>>528872695The only hope for Kris not being a virgin and a cuck is the deer gf route.
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>>528872695Krusie can only survive when Susie kills Dess
Krusiecucks getting dunked on yet again
>>528873036Nice try Berdley but no dice
>>528872843RalSus gets all the off-screen scenes
I just had an actual fucking schizo nightmare?
I thought I was just laying in my bed, it didn't feel like I had fallen asleep. I don't remember what I was thinking/dreaming about before the event but I remember feeling calm/relaxed. Then everything kinda froze/tensed up, even though my eyes were closed, I could tell there was some kind of shift. I saw a still image of a low pixel staticy TV screen. Then there was a picture that was kind of like Sans' head, and a dialog box said "SANS , A"
and I think I heard something scary?
But, have you ever experienced "dream emotions" where you feel an intense feeling even though what is being presented to you isn't really like that or whatever? Well, that happened. I felt fucking terrified, to the point I literally woke up whimpering. I was like "aah, aah, aah, aah!"
And I felt something like pressure or pain or tension on my thighs for a little while.
Now im awake, I just typed this up, and like I said, I can't remember what I was dreaming or thinking about before the "nightmare".
Does this even read as believable? I'm worried it sounds like a shitpost but I swear to god this just happened and I still feel really unnerved. It's so stupid. Why was it Sans lmao? I'm not a skeletonfag or anything.
>>528871413i find this one hot as fuck and i don't even consider myself a noellefag
>>528872956Polycules never work out. Worst possible endgame.
>>528872695It's only gotten more popular
>>528871025>Susie has to be the one to put Dess to rest against everyone elses wishes to stop the cycle and everyone else from suffering another roaring trying to get her backi kinda rike it
>>528873076YOUR DOE IS TOO UNLONG
Little gemmy gem comic I made of my wife noelle for the UTG group artboard
>>528873145it's so stupid and unprompted it has to be real, I'm sorry to tell you
>>528873191What is Queen talking about, what was spelled wrong?
>>528873160all relationships end in death or divorce
>>528873243>feacher presentation
>>528873145The pressure on your thighs thing is a sleep paralysis phenomenon.
>>528873145Nah I believe you, don't answer any unknown numbers alright?
>>528873151>red eyesSOUL expressing love through Noelle!
>>528873243Someone literally spelt "wrong" and Queen is just saying that they spelt "wrong
>>528873243YOURE SPELLING TOO WRONG
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>hello anon
>i see you are admiring my butte
>may i take your order?
what kind of hamburger will you order from tasquedonalds?
A) i'll take an XL buttburger, with bonus slap action
B) i'll have the tasque milkshake, straight from the tap
C) i want the extra nutricious creampie special
>>528872956>ft. Noelle*ft. (You) while Noelle gets cucked
>>528873358>His only leverage is your sins.>You don't have any sins, do you Kris?
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I had a dream I was playing a new Deltarune chapter and Toby had put an enemy in the game that was just this face. I genuinely could not believe what I was seeing.
Do you think Deltarune will make you cry?
>>528873285Some are longer and happier than others.
>>528873503Yeah and then we call it shit
>>528873337Don't fucking say that because scammers have been using spoofed numbers in my area code to try to call me every day for over a week. I just let the phone ring and block afterward because I think declining them lets them know my number is active.
>>528873640i was just seein what you were up to damn
>>528873503No, but I understand why someone else would, the characters are emotionally engaging, I felt bad for Ralsei in that scene where Susie explodes.
>>528856441I think the biggest piece of evidence against Noelle being trans is that Toby never said she is.
If she was, why would he not just say it? His target audience would eat it up and shower him with social credit. I don't think he's the type of coward who'd leave it up to subtext.
If you kill yourself by laying down and stabbing yourself into the heart, if you go all the way through your body are you capable of making a dark world while you're dying and sort of fusing yourself with it?
>>528873191this doesnโt make any sense since noelle is brown
>>528873503i hope it does
>>528873503No, but that's not Deltarunes fault. It is a personal failing on my end.
>>528873503Probably. I haven't cried yet but I did feel kind of on the edge of tears at two parts: In chapter 2 when Spamton NEO's strings get cut, and in chapter 4 when Ralsei is breaking down because Susie saw the end of the prophecy.
>>528873503I am emotionally broken and am unable to consume media
>>528873145Yeah, I've had weird nightmares like that. It's nothing to worry about.
>>528873503I hope that one of the secret bosses makes me cry out of frustration.
>>528873503I got misty eyed reading Susie's letter to Alvin
>>528873731>the Knight's rib cage
>>528873739No, sheโs gingerbread, silly!
>>528873731>stab yourself>your corpse becomes a dark world>all of your organs are charactersWho would be the main boss and the schizoboss?
>>528873814I still think it would have been better narratively if Spamton never spoke after having his strings cut.
>>528873919>noelle is brown>just like gingerbread cookies, a common christmas traditionToby you genius...
>>528873973what if kris wasn't scared of getting their strings cut
what if kris is afraid that dess will fucking die if they cut her strings
>>528873956>main boss is a wailing liver present in ever soundtrack to various degrees>schizoboss is literally just the brain
>>528873191>>528873739>>528873919People who say brown people can't hate black people has never met someone from North Africa.
>>528874165Why are you meeting niggers from North Africa
>>528874082she hasn't eaten in years, she will totally die once we PURIFY her
>>528873973That would run the risk of making him look like he was dead. It wouldn't have hit me as hard as the implication that he'll never live free no matter how hard he tries. Having his speech become normal afterwards was also a great way to show that something had changed inside him and that he had accepted the reality of his life.
>>528873731What if you stab yourself with a desire to live forever? I think that would create a really intense Dark World.
>>528874121>the $!$? squad defeats your brain and gets the shadow crystal>you become a lobotomized retard
>>528874238Why doesnt he just kill himself? Strings are great for hanging yourself up so high people could mistake you for an ANGEL
>>528874272>you become a well functioning adult of the human society
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>>528873418I SAID ORDER SOMETHING
>>528870190He can just make the chapters longer. Is 2 chapter 2โs not enough to wrap things up after 5? He can also do the cheeky chapter 0
>>528874296Hope for the future. First for his own, then for the Heroes'.
>>528874296The strings are made out of very breathable material. If you can't breathe then the strings will do the breathing for you.
So the weird route scene in chapter 4 was Kris trying to cry for help right?
Reminder that Kris got good at flirting by practicing with Dess
>>528872695Tobias has to add more krusie bait to appeal to the oriental audience
is anyone else not a big fan of all the "oh"s, "uh"s and "um"s in the dialogue?
>>528874423Hahaha i drew the heart. Just above my negative coloured comic of noelle noticing
>>528872059>heimmersion ruined
>>528873191It really ramps up in the funny department after the 3rd time
>>528874165Theyre not brown.
>>528874427The SOUL got good at flirting by practicing on every monster in the underground, Kris is merely powering our power
ive determine kris skin color
>>528874601And where'd the SOUL get those skills in the first place?
DECEMBER
>>528874548whats whas the post
>>528874635Kris is yellow
>>528874635nah simpsons yellow is canon
>>528874674Noelle is racist
I touched a guitar and it started playing "Lost Girl"
what do
>>528874734>Kris.>Kill him.
>>528874335I'll take a rough anal with the cook
with a side of tail pulling
>>528874635Kris has jaundice.
>>528874835call of juandice
>>528874734You're December now, sorry you had to find out like that.
>>528874835True. THIS IS CANNON VVVV
EVERY HUMAN HAS JAUNDICE BECAUSE ONLY OLD HUMANS KNEW HOW TO GROW CITRUS FRUITS
>>528874635Huge improvement.
>>528874681What if Kris sounds like Homer Simpson and that's why they don't speak much
>>528874914>it's jaundice because kris has no genitals to piss with
>>528874778He's so cute!
I wanna eat up lil yandere Azzy~
>>528874435Boring character. Outclassed by Elnina.
Ive determine
Noelles curry
Anyone have some darkner oc's the thread created saved? I'm interested in how anons have drawn their own darkners over these past few years. I can remember catwitch but cant think of any darkner specific oc's
>>528875132KRIS YOU BLOODY BITCH BASTARD I WILL REDEEM SUSI BOBS AND VAGENE
>>528875132noelle if she ganguro
>>528875132SHE'S A DEER WITH DEER SKIN YOU B-WORD
>>528864650>>528865014Kris is not a "switch." His "dominant" behavior is entirely forced by the player.
>>528875304you mean fur? Deer skin is pink
>>528875167Someone made this little guy that was supposed to be an amalgamation of different horny posters.
Lost the original, just have this crop :(
I need more of this goober
What if dess molested noelle?
>>528875132>frosty winter girlnuh uh no way
Deltarune is a nigger test. If you pick Snowgrave then you're psychologically an amoral stealing raping criminally-minded nigger. Undertale was the same way.
How am I supposed to go back to sleep after nightmare. im afraid of nightmare coming back.
>>528875384don't lose him again
>>528875132she has no fucking chin LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
some random gay theories
>MIKE/FRIEND is going to show up in chapter 5
>sprite and environment you meet him in will look exactly like picrel
>will help you at first but then betray you like flowey
>tenna never met MIKE/FRIEND. spamton wanted airtime and promised to connect him with FRIEND as a deal
>spamton either convinces the 3 fake MIKEs to pretend to be MIKE or tenna got delusional over MIKE not being in there for him and the fake MIKEs had to step in
>in chapter 5, FRIEND will predate on asgore's desparation to find dess and repair his relationship with toriel, like how he took advantage of spamton and tenna
>FRIEND is also a "deal with the devil" type character, who only shows up when someone cannot get what they want
>when jevil met FRIEND, he was taught that he was inside a video game and underwent a METAMORPHOSIS from a normal joker to jevil, like how FRIEND is the devil
>spamton used to look like a normal, shorter addison until he was turned into a puppet by FRIEND
>if neo woody theory is true, the cowboy will become posessed or controlled by FRIEND, like he did with spamton
>FRIEND INSIDE ME
>FRIEND INSIDE ME
>>528875465think of your nightmares like a brain emulator and load a state to a cool part
>>528875462Youโre a nigger for not wanting a deer gf.
>>528875132Yeah alright buddy tell me when you find a naturally blonde jeet who lives in a congruent large winter themed household with a mother who wears pantsuits
>>528875465go to sleep with the express intend of beating the shit out of it
>>528875384They asked for Darkners, not abominations
>>528875548niggy says what?
>>528875465YOUR THINKING TOO LONG
>doesn't go to church
>overbearing mother
>named cattenheimer
Catti is Jewish
>>528875475sorry pic broken
>>528875167Does this count?
>>528874914Chara doesn't have jaundice, which only proves that Frisk and Kris are abnormal for being yellow.
>>528875616I thought you did that on purpose for paranoia
>>528875595The rest of her family goes to church.
>>528875679I didn't say her family was Jewish, just her.
>>528875616>>528875675And here I thought my internet connection was just acting up.
>>528875468YAY!
Adorable degen creechure!
>>528875674Charaโs a ghost, as we know from the catechism of the catholic church, bodies are beatified after they die, returned to the peak perfect condition, therefore charas skin would be normal (white)
determined susie is agressive african girl
>>528875632I just realized that his keyboard seems to be on a kitchen counter.
>>528875709Bait or mental retardation?
I LOVE TENNA!! I LOVE TV!!!
cherishing my pillow, huggin my pillow after my shift ended, taking care of myself because of Tenna...feels good
>>528872428>when Kris plays you his dollar store piano piece so you hit him with the: https://youtu.be/L9r-NxuYszg?si=5zZGYJ9cTpF3fHv5
>>528875893Noooooo her family is like catholic angelic christian or something
shes a Self converted jewish for the jew magick
>>528875475I sincerely doubt FRIEND would betray (You) in particular, you've been partners for far too long and he's done so much to set up your various vessels
No, he would betray Kris and manage to forcefully rip you out of them and stuff you in a new vessel that can move, act, and KILL without restriction
>>528875353Wrong, Kris enjoys sadistic pranks, locking (You) in a cage, and beating (You) up.
>>528875616>His smile fair as spring, as towards him he draws you
>>528876013and she couldn't even make me a golem that worthless bitch
>>528876023He was a kid
i cant imagine kris dom with the mumbly quiet voice
>>528876159that just means they have to get closer to your ear
>>528875867She's a dark-skinned Latina who wears Cookie Monster pajama pants
>>528876196Kkkeeeekkkkkkk
>>528875616why would the player trust whatever the fuck that is
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>>528875047What does yandere Azzy taste like?
>>528875595Catti is Mewish
>>528876159Your imagination is too limited and not horny enough
>>528876308I see yellow and magenta and I think "oh, a FRIEND"
>>528876318hot
>>528876323also affected my penor
>>528876308well the player trusted spamton and look what that got you
>>528876275Must brushie gote mouf
>>528876159>hey you should uh take off your clothes i think>and then uh get on the bed yeah>wow you are uh cute and, sexy, or whatever>am i doing this right>can we just fuck or something i don't like foreplay
CATTI IS THE FUARKING KNIGHT
>>528876398This one rules so fucking hard
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he sad
>>528876196 i-im gonna um.. *get quiter* s-stuff y y you full o โฆ Of my Um throbbing Ughh ..nfhโฆ nevermind
>>528876409Some awesome sunglasses?
>>528876449Here is the post from anon in the archives if you desire to read it.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/436408635/#q436444303
>>528876335Like terrified but curious marshmallows!
>>528876474Learned that one from your brother?
>>528875632I think someone even drew a Darkner based on that poor abused thing
>>528876448It's honestly a >0 chance. Low, but >0.
>>528876385He Cant even Perform socially Witjout someone Piloting him imagine In bed i even orae
>>528876583>>528876462>noelle hot and bothered over grabbiesPatrician tastes anon
>>528876671is someone piloting you to type?
What decides what becomes a darkner?
Why doesn't Kris's pencil, bandage, cell phone, and knife become darkners but become equipment instead, while Lancer does become a darkner?
>>528876196An say what?
Am gonna penetrate my dark world inside of yuo?
>>528875468Wait a second this is just Alphys after starting a skin care routine. And throwing away all her inhibitions.
>>528876671Anon, you're having a stroke, stop arguing about whether Kris is a dom or a sub
>>528876874I Hve tarot kaards
Giv me. second
>>528876865>An say what?Proceed
we all know kris is a five dollar footlong swimming in mayo
>>528876943i don't get it
>>528876858Lancer and the other playing cards probably became a Darkner because Kris used to play with the cards as if they were little characters
If it were a deck used by a world class gambler that sees them purely as tools instead the cards might turn into throwing knives or something
>>528877028Doesn't that completely rule out Ralsei being the knife or headband, then?
>>528876858meaning, maybe? the pencil, bandage, cell phone, and knife are used as tools whereas Kris is a weirdo that plays pretend with plugs. all the push in pens I had in school would turn into rocket ships
>>528875939Oh wait, is that same big shot rpg with the hacker, spamton and antivirus guy? I remember there was an image that had them as a team fighting some firewall dudes
Did anyone else notice how castle town's music doesn't change in a snowgrave route? Even if you spare everyone in 1 and 3 only part of them end up in your town regardless
>>528877028>>528877098Who decides an object's meaning?
The person who created the fountain?
How does traveling between fountains take that into consideration?
>>528877071Why would it? Ralsei is a reflection of who Kris wishes they were so both the Knife and Headband still make sense.
>>528877071Ralsei isn't anything that belongs to Kris. Ralsei is a weird, special Darkner made of pure darkness.
>>528877071I think that's ruled out by Ralsei doing stuff off-screen while Kris is away from the Dark World
The headband might be a Jevil/Spamton situation that can transform between Darkner and item form since it does have a "character" attached to it, the form Kris wanted to have as a boss monster
>>528877209>kris wishes he was a submissive and breedable boywife who exists at the command of othersYeah that checks out
>>528877203>Lancer's bike>Winglade being an item and Darkner based on fountain
>>528877203We actually have an answer for that from chapter 4, the creator of the fountain's perspective + number of interactions/proximity and intensity.
>>528877203>Who decides an object's meaning?>The person who created the fountain?Yes. This seems to be the case based on what Ramb says and what Ralsei says in Chapter 4 after the false Gerson fight.
>>528877209Kris enjoys being an asshole too much to ever want to be Ralsei
>>528876913>tw rx 2ow rx qopOk, Mommy issues, momy domme. Want someone Emotionaly nurturing (That the Hard-on) (core fetish)
tw rx- he cant finish sex is Very difficult
tow rx- hesitation, probaly fantasies about being a dom but doenst have the aset to act it out.
i dont know is that dom sub or switch
I asume Sub because he cant Cum
>>528877267He literally almost reveals his true form in chapter 3
>>528877196Getting big town upgrades is probably tied to 100% recruitment
I haven't done a non-snowgrave violent run but I imagine the same thing happens if you beat up some random chapter 2 enemies
>>528869229>>528869143Noelle both is and isn't the angel. The prophecy doesn't specify a single definitive identity for the angel because it doesn't compel events to occur that specifically. The prophecy compels the future to take a shape which allows it to be fully and completely accurate, but is agnostic as to what that shape will actually be so long as that shape makes the prophecy fully and completely accurate. We are "heaven", and as the embodiment of the will of heaven we use "angels" to effectuate our will upon the Earth. Kris is currently the instrument of our will and our angel. This, however, appears to be the explicit and intentional design of The Roaring Gang (Carol, Kris, and Alvin), who have likely been manipulating events and their environment in order to ensure that the prophecy comes true in the way most favorable to their interests (which for whatever reason appears to involve Kris taking on the role of the angel).
However, Noelle has a ton of symbolism indicating she could also be a potential candidate for the angel of the prophecy, and the future instrument of our will. She demonstrates this willingness to become our instrument during Snowgrave. While Noelle carries this potential, it appears to be more favorable to the interests of The Roaring Gang for Kris to assume this role instead. It's possible Noelle was even originally "intended" to become the angel in the original version of the prophecy, and that Kris being our angel is only the case because 1. He technically possessed the latent capacity to meet the prophecy criteria and 2. The Roaring Gang deliberately orchestrated events in order to ensure Kris was selected as the angel of the prophecy rather than Noelle. I have some guesses as to why they would do this, but we likely don't have enough information yet to piece together a concrete motive. Regardless, we force Noelle as the angel during Snowgrave, clearly against the wishes of Kris and likely the rest of Team Roaring.
We better not get banished. Kris should instead.
>>528877448Yeah, because it's not a secret that he's a weird Darkner. He comes from the weird Grand Fountain. If he was something that belongs to Kris, he likely wouldn't be so willing to reveal that to Susie.
>>528877553Should i interpert if he rped noelle next
>>528877184Yeah, I liked the concept for it a lot.
>>528877567You have to stop playing sooner or later
>>528877567We won't get "banished" we will BANISH.
Then we will leave, our HEAVEN satisfied.
>>528877567relax
enjoy death
>>528876527Sounds very delish. I'm gonna go squish the marshmallow gote, and maybe he'll bite. Sexually
>>528877502The town itself still upgrades to have all of the facilities and whatnot. The music didn't change and certain units (like the shadowguys/tasques dancing in the cafe) didn't appear, but they're present in other places of the town It's a weird half-"upgrade" state.
Can we bully Vesselcucks?
>>528877642>>528877643>>528877648No. I'm gonna play again. I like this game. Kris can be sacrificed instead.
>>528877435I think it's just a part of them that wishes that, the part that wishes they were a normal monster like the rest of their family. I don't think they actively want to be like Ralsei.
You can enjoy being an asshole but also have part of you that wishes you were just a sweet kid everyone loved, people are complex like that.
>>528877716he does a lil nibbling~
>>528877567no need to banish either, Kris WILL know i mean this world no harm and we WILL become friends by the end of pacifist, trust
>>528877503The voice (allegedly gaster) is the angel and the angel's heaven is the grand fountain. That's why it's the only place where (you)r name is spoken.
>>528877209There's too much of what Susie wants and needs in Ralsei (hence all the Toriel comparisons) for him to just be a reflection of Kris
>>528875167Tooey Russy, the greatest OC in /utg/ history
>>528877846Naughty gote shote
>>528877905i wonder if something similar keeps the knight animated
>>528877567>>528877812God Iโm so cute, would plap me
>>528877672>Even I, the one telling you this ... I too, am...Ralsei says this right after telling you what the other Darkners are in the Light World.
>>528878267Really don't like that
>>528878267I wish I could afford bread
>>528877567"Only they can seal the fountains, and banish the angel's heaven"
"The angel, banished, will finally meet with its desire"
>At the end of the game we, the angel's heaven, are "banished" (in game terms, no longer able to exert our will upon the game or its NPCs)>Banishing the angel's heaven requires banishing our current host as well: the angel.>If we selected Noelle as our angel, she finally gets to see Dess again, as being "banished" causes her to wind up in the same place Dess disappeared to somehow. While now both banished and lost forever, they do at least have each other. Noelle, now in the banished place, meets with her truest desire of seeing her long lost sister again.>If we selected Kris as our angel, he is banished to the same place. Asriel, under the guise of attending college, banished himself there awhile ago in an unsuccessful attempt to rescue Dess. While now both banished and lost forever (along with Dess, who is presumably also there), they do at least have each other. Kris, now in the banished place, meets with his truest desire of seeing his long lost brother again.The game ends with you deciding who you want to "bring down with you". While it is sad for everyone in the overworld who will miss them and honor their sacrifice to seal you away, your "victim" ends up meeting with their truest desire in the end anyway, so its not all bad. Bittersweet ending with those in the "banished place" watching on and comforting each other as their loved ones learn to live their lives without them, Toby makes a gorillion dollars and starts immediately on his next game NUDE ALERT: FRIEND INSIDE ME
>>528878159All
Vessels
Are
Female
>>528878267wait he's not a sheep
>>528878282oh that's what you meant. i thought you meant like we almost saw it instead of read it.
>>528878323that's haggis.
>>528878081I guess if Ralsei is some kind of dark homunculus made for the prophecy then the same could apply to the Knight too
I don't really want to make any assumptions about what the Knight is yet though because all we know is "it's kind of Dess-like" and "its shit is all fucked up"
>>528878267That's not bread. That's Ralsei haggis.
>>528878295I'm so sorry, forgive me my love for cursed images
>>528878323Bread is like the cheapest food there is??
>>528878419Right you are, here's bread (la american forme)
Hello. NoelleIsMyIRLWifeFag here. Here is my updated noelle drawing with my days learning in perspective to fix it, i think Iโm beginning to understand the essence of noelle more
>>528877986Agreed.
Needs correction!
>>528878650Why does he keep attracting these kinds of girls?
make a new pls i have art to post
>>528871413it's not ut/dr related
https://files.catbox.moe/mkj1pw.png
>>528878726tfw I missed the YOU are welcome here dialogue because I turned on the santa before leaving and only found out about a week later from watching a playthrough on youtube.
>>528878957it's a cool line but just about the only thing it does is tell us that carol can speak in a red accent and confuse people on who she's talking to
My IRL wife from the magma
>>528875475>MikeAnon, I...
>>528877781No theyโd get off on it