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Anonymous No.528858339 >>528858873 >>528861070 >>528872798
/svg/ - Shadowverse General
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>News
Chest Event (Opulent Rose Queen rewards)
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/news/detail/?id=01JW57BBMMWNZ2EPKSTR3B071J

>First Card Set: Legends Rise
https://youtu.be/FivirUEsdus
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/cards/pack/legends-rise/

>Gacha Leaders: Daria, Albert, Cerberus, Orchis
https://youtu.be/RaYi2z5_wWw
https://youtu.be/HrrMWCtphAw
https://youtu.be/Q1zMKWRuBvA
https://youtu.be/6v2HeJ8aFig

>Worlds Beyond Trailer
https://youtu.be/prCyDNLsiTI
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/

Resource Guide (decks, tier lists, guilds):
https://rentry.org/svg-resources

Official deck portal
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/deck/

Shadowverse Anime
https://anime.shadowverse.jp

Shadowverse Evolve TCG
https://en.shadowverse-evolve.com/

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Anonymous No.528858505 >>528858679 >>528858760 >>528858845 >>528858948 >>528858984 >>528859058 >>528859374 >>528859468 >>528859957 >>528860167 >>528860282 >>528860781 >>528860860 >>528860881 >>528866041
Anyone else in their 30s
Anonymous No.528858660 >>528858743
Please use me


GpzZbWS
Anonymous No.528858679 >>528859042 >>528862456
>>528858505
I’m a 23 5’6” 120 pounds italian (not south) runeGOD
Anonymous No.528858692
get dabbed on runetranny on god!!
Anonymous No.528858743
>>528858660
I would if I could, sorry...
Anonymous No.528858757
Friend Invite code if you still need one, feel free to use it on alts

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Anonymous No.528858760 >>528858878
>>528858505
I am black.
Anonymous No.528858803 >>528860053
What is the current cope?
Anonymous No.528858814 >>528860996 >>528861165 >>528862067
Did sv1 ever divulge ranked win rates by craft, rank, going 1st, etc?
Anonymous No.528858845
>>528858505
A minority that's for fucking sure. It's gen z all over, and the few millennials around are the gayass motherfuckers, not the good ones, they all vanished from the face of the internet, not only this reddit occupied place and the gay masters.
>>528857350
>>528857842
>>528858439
Anonymous No.528858873
>>528858339 (OP)
Us RuneGODs will never die. We will lurk in the shadows, waiting to break your pathetic winstreak with a gigantic highroll.
Anonymous No.528858878
>>528858760
based runigger
Anonymous No.528858898
The FUARKING King of Portal. Orchis is the Queen, but he is the King.
Anonymous No.528858918
RAPE ALL PORTAL KEKS
BURN ORCHIS AT THE STAKE
FUCK THIS CRAFT AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous No.528858948
>>528858505
I'm 27
Anonymous No.528858984
>>528858505
31 been playing card games since I was 10
Anonymous No.528859023 >>528859086 >>528860059
>People endlessly bitching about Orchis when Sylvia is considerably more overpowered
Hell Orchis is fine to me honestly. Sylvia and Alouette are some of the most insane tempo swings in the game.
Anonymous No.528859038
Why do people hate the most fun deck in the game like spellboost dshift plays are fun and the deck has a bunch of cute girls with big hats
Anonymous No.528859042
>>528858679
basato fratello
Anonymous No.528859053
any runesisters here got skin bleaching routines they can recommend? the ones I tried don't work
Anonymous No.528859058
>>528858505
35
Anonymous No.528859086 >>528859363
>>528859023
Retard, every Portal card is overpowered
>Alouette
>Sylvia
>Orchis
>Artifacts in general
Anonymous No.528859105 >>528859280 >>528859573
>>528858705
Everything revolving around a fucking card game makes it hilarious
Anonymous No.528859106
Use the code TvhcSbr and great draws and legendaries shall come to you!
Anonymous No.528859171 >>528859393
I play Haven and I am emerald, how do I cope.
Anonymous No.528859253
bros i don't want to climb this much i only have one orchis for my puppet deck...
Anonymous No.528859280 >>528859413
>>528859105
Even Yugioh is like this with how serious people like Kaiba get.
Anonymous No.528859363
>>528859086
I don't really care about Orchis, she's literally the only reason Puppets function as a deck. Artifact is obnoxious because of the value they have on their midgame plays, not Orchis.
Anonymous No.528859374
>>528858505
I'm nearing my 40s
Anonymous No.528859393
>>528859171
Play different game
Anonymous No.528859396 >>528859425 >>528859450 >>528859683
Why is this a 3/1 instead of lets say 3/3? It's a fucking symmetrical effect and a gold card.
Anonymous No.528859413 >>528859496 >>528859520 >>528859652 >>528860793
>>528859280
didnt kaiba make an entire university/school dedicated to card games
Anonymous No.528859425
>>528859396
Abyss tax
Anonymous No.528859450 >>528859791
>>528859396
he does 4 damage
Anonymous No.528859453 >>528859937
Nobody in the regular lobbies stands on top of things like signs or pillars. It's like they aren't even real people, completely souless.
Anonymous No.528859468
>>528858505
Turned 35 a couple of weeks ago
Anonymous No.528859496
>>528859413
Yes, he also sent cards to space.
Anonymous No.528859520
>>528859413
Not just school. He literally made the whole fucking town just for card game.
Anonymous No.528859560 >>528859615
>All of the people you ERP with are fat sweaty old men using loli avatars
Anonymous No.528859573
>>528859105
say that to wolfraud
Anonymous No.528859589
Hey guys, use my code: 48qpuU7
I made it to D2 and finished the story. Definitely gonna take a while to reach A0, but I plan to stick around.
Anonymous No.528859615
>>528859560
and thats based
Anonymous No.528859652
>>528859413
He did. Also, Crowler got a PhD in dueling, so supposedly there was a course for that somewhere.
Anonymous No.528859682
portal is trash compared to forest, you have been warned
Anonymous No.528859683 >>528859791
>>528859396
He's actually a really powerful card but abyss can't practically go aggro right now. If he was 3/3, trading him out would be inconsistent enough for most decks that he'd be worth 7 damage on average.
Anonymous No.528859709
>mentally warped by portalchads: the general
good to know i've been giving you shitters PTSD, kek.
Anonymous No.528859751 >>528859947 >>528860415 >>528862405
>release Havencraft without a SINGLE way to accelerate amulets besides Engage - no Hallowed Dogma or Healing Prayer
>without a single Banish effect
>without a single healing spell
what the hell were they thinking? At least Abyss got Cerberus.
Anonymous No.528859791 >>528859939
>>528859450
>>528859683
think you're missing that the crest hurts both...
Anonymous No.528859812 >>528860005 >>528860269
Honest deck
Honest wins
Anonymous No.528859856
die sword frauds, die
Anonymous No.528859865
>finally pull the trigger on crafting a sword deck
>face only portal
Alright, I’m switching back to dragon.
Anonymous No.528859937
>>528859453
Last time I visited a nip lobby there were people dancing and one guy doing pushups on top of Eudie's head
Anonymous No.528859939
>>528859791
Many of the best blood cards in SV1 did too. If Abyss becomes capable of racing then Balto will certainly see play but that just isn't the case right now because Abyss will get blown up from hand on turn 8~ and die just off self damage.
Anonymous No.528859947 >>528862712
>>528859751
Haven got 5 heal cards and a banish. What are you talking about?
Anonymous No.528859957 >>528860091
>>528858505
35 and I still ERP.
Anonymous No.528860005 >>528860250
>>528859812
>detective's lens
I kneel
Anonymous No.528860053
>>528858803
>What is the current cope?
the next set we will tier S for sure
Anonymous No.528860059 >>528860190 >>528860308 >>528860403 >>528860415 >>528860467 >>528860628 >>528862247
>>528859023
In terms of Portal Overtuned cards its as follows.

Sylvia > Orchis > Alouette

Alouette needs a stat line nerf, like 1 / 3 so she doesnt feel as oppresive. She brings an entire other Mech with her on Evo so having shit base stats is fine.

Orchis also needs the puppets she gets on super evo to not be Enhanced Puppets. The fact that she can kill your stuff guaranteed with bane while also having the option to go for face for 7 is fucking ridiculous. Either that or some stat nerfs, being an 8/8 is so fucking hard to deal.

And ofc Sylvia, the queen of value, she draws if you need to be aggressive, she heals if you are against aggro, she can kill 1 enemy for 1 evo or 2 for 1 superevo. The stupid part is that she kills with NO conditions and has decent base stats to trade with. If someone plays Sylvia back to back on you it's almost impossible to win. She could do half of what she does atm and she would still be 3x on every portal deck.
Anonymous No.528860079
How do you tell how much damage your card will do like if it says 4/2 storm how much damage will it do to me
Anonymous No.528860083 >>528860342
I think gary is a big nothingburger of a leggo compared to the lesbians, kuon, Dclimb, and orchis.
Anonymous No.528860091
>>528859957
Same...
Anonymous No.528860150 >>528860260
Big number go up, head feels good
Anonymous No.528860167
>>528858505
Unc aaaah thread aint no way
Anonymous No.528860186
>roach is going to get away with it again because of topaztards who play against the popular slop
you shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion below diamond
Anonymous No.528860190
>>528860059
I'd like to see some of Orchis' effects gated behind a certain number of puppets dying over the course of the game. That way she can't just be stuffed into random artifact decks as gigavalue. Orchis is much more honest when in a pure puppet shell.
Anonymous No.528860250
>>528860005
I thank the dragonbro that was posting lens.
It's really good for my haven shenanigans since I can engage it for free to activate storm on bird
Not only that but miss detective is kind of nice too 3/3 puts her out of range of a lot of early removal
Anonymous No.528860260
>>528860150
dat gurl gots a FAT fuckin ass
Anonymous No.528860269
>>528859812
Haven is genuinely better at abusing Storm than Dragoncraft
Anonymous No.528860282 >>528860382
>>528858505
I'm 29 I don't erp but I like fapping together with friends sometimes
Anonymous No.528860287 >>528860454
Anonymous No.528860292 >>528860379
Every deck is fine outside Rune. The only card in this game that makes me want to uninstall and hope KMR gets a pipebomb in the mail is Dimension Shift because it's insane that a craft can get a new turn along with a freshly spellboosted hand for free at 0 cost. Whoever came up with this needs to be shot repeatedly.
Anonymous No.528860308
>>528860059
What Orchis needs is to buff the puppets in your hand, like make enhanced puppets 0 cost or whatever idk, instead of summoning them. Something that lets her still be oppressive on puppet decks but not on artifact.
Anonymous No.528860342 >>528861428
>>528860083
Anne and Grea are such absurd overstatted effects its unreal.
Anonymous No.528860379 >>528860470 >>528860476
>>528860292
>every deck is fine
>Haven is fine
This is how I know you don't play this fucking game.
Anonymous No.528860382 >>528860603
>>528860282
isnt that basically what ERP is? I dont actually write stories or anything... but we do get a little gay sometimes
Anonymous No.528860391
what a weird fucking mirror
Anonymous No.528860403 >>528860478 >>528860529 >>528862392
>>528860059
alouette is already weak because she's 5pp evo 4atk, so often you have to commit Gamma (does nothing) just to kill a simple 5/5. If you summon Beta, opponent gets to go face for free.
Sylvia is a 6pp do nothing, useless without evos which are crucial to Portal's win con
Anonymous No.528860415
>>528859751
The nerf to Soul Conversion is the most infuriating thing about playing Abyss right now. That and how shit their early game dudes are.

>>528860059
Strongly agree on Alouette. I really do just think that her being a 4/6 on evo is crazy. I was thinking she should be a 2/2 base honestly. Orchis bugs me less because again, she is all Puppets really have but I could live with her giving Puppets +1 instead of giving enhanced ones straight up. This reduces the baseline strength while giving it a higher ceiling potentially. Fuck Sylvia though that shit is crazy.
Anonymous No.528860454
>>528860287
aragavy should at least be selected damage
Anonymous No.528860457 >>528860508
So, is every leader going to be either Ticket, Battlepass, or $20?
Anonymous No.528860461
What are these sleeves?
Anonymous No.528860467
>>528860059
>t. never played the deck
Anonymous No.528860470
>>528860379
sorry not taking game advice from /trash/ schizos
go bother someone else
Anonymous No.528860473 >>528860617 >>528860653 >>528861256
You guys aren’t considering the social impact of portal nerfs.
You nerf portal and all the non-rerollers and/or pure f2p will peace out of shadoba forever
Anonymous No.528860476 >>528860556
>>528860379
Haven's power level should be the baseline for everything
Anonymous No.528860478
>>528860403
portalfags really believe the shit they post lmfao
Anonymous No.528860508
>>528860457
my eyelashes look like this
Anonymous No.528860517
I want to be a haven sissy so bad
Anonymous No.528860529
>>528860403
i can smell your portalstained hands
Anonymous No.528860556 >>528860647 >>528860662
>>528860476
Damn, if every other class had to suffer through what Haven does.
I don't think you faggots would be able to manage.
Anonymous No.528860603
>>528860382
when people ask me for erp I assume it's actual roleplaying...I like fantasizing and dirty talking more
Anonymous No.528860617
>>528860473
Good. Newfags are a blight.
Anonymous No.528860628
>>528860059
>hey guys leet's nerf portal's only remotely kill potential card at 8 so that every single deck boils down to who hits 10 and draws their instant ender super card first

good thing you'll never be in charge of designing anything
Anonymous No.528860647
>>528860556
preach sister!!! these chuds have, like, no idea how bad we have it right now
Anonymous No.528860653
>>528860473
These people have no idea how bad it can get. They will see next meta, and the meta after that. They have no clue. They're seething about a control card tied to an evo lmao.
Anonymous No.528860662
>>528860556
wouldn't be suffering at that point
Do you suffer in mirror matches?
nvm it's haven mirror ofc you do
Anonymous No.528860685 >>528860836
I have never seen a game where the portal player played 2 Sylvias and lost
She is so fucking stupid at getting you back from any situation i don't understand what were they thinking.

Oh but she needs an Evo to kill. Well yeah no fucking shit. She is either getting you out of kill range or filling your hand while doing so i will gladly spend that to take board control guaranteed.
Anonymous No.528860727
>>528860010
Anonymous No.528860735 >>528860789
Another to the fold.
Though to be honest I have a long ways to go for mastery it feels.
Haven match-up I misplay a lot in since I'm not used to their strategy and kill potential.

Also if you need a code please use this friends.
yxd7ZuJ
Anonymous No.528860736
GREA IKOU
Anonymous No.528860752 >>528860827 >>528862408
ARISA IS RAPE BAIT
Anonymous No.528860781
>>528858505
I'm going to turn 31 in a less than 3 weeks.
Anonymous No.528860789 >>528861114
>>528860735
>C1
discount diamond
Anonymous No.528860793
>>528859413
Don't forget he invented time travel so he could rematch Yami in ancient Egypt.
Anonymous No.528860827 >>528861195
>>528860752
Cool epiphany anon, got any more eureka moments to share with us?
Anonymous No.528860836
>>528860685
Portal use that 4pp card, into sylva, into sylva or orchis then it's over most of the time. Same with Rune, you need to be very lucky.
Anonymous No.528860857 >>528860994 >>528861015 >>528861453
Forest is the real faggot class.
At least the others can be stopped by wards
Anonymous No.528860860
>>528858505
Why are you all so OLD?
Anonymous No.528860862
at least Rune knows their shit is fucking retardedly busted and they don't pretend otherwise.

Portalniggers are on some high level dellusion.
Anonymous No.528860879
The more money you spent, the better draws you get
Anonymous No.528860881
>>528858505
34 here
Anonymous No.528860925 >>528861021
Its just so hilarious that Haven is such a dogshit dead in the water fucking class that everyone seems to have a collective amnesia about the class.

>HURRR IF YOU JUST NERF RUNE OR POTAL THE GAME WILL BE COMPLETELY BALANCED NOW
Like holy fuck, Haven is right there too and it can't even compete against the next weakest deck because its so fundamentally broken it doesn't function at fucking all.
Anonymous No.528860983
it's so weird being shit elo and reading this thread because my single orchis is barely ever relevant, most of my wins are just based on having permanent board control from all the good lower cost lower rarity cards
like yeah sometimes they'll grea grea kuon kuon satan dshift and i have to eat a dick but playing an honest board game like it's release hearthstone was good enough for me to climb out of ruby
Anonymous No.528860994
>>528860857
I hit diamond and then suddenly I'm up against nothing but forest every single game.
Anonymous No.528860996
>>528858814
I know the answer is probably no because fuck transparency, but I'd like to know.
Anonymous No.528861007 >>528861385
I have been playing the game for over a week now on both PC and mobile. I am not F2P as I paid $200 for my first deck. Initially, the economy seems to be very bad (500 gold pack price, lower vial from liquefying silvers, and, critically, no liquefy first 3 copies). I thought it would sucks so bad as a F2P player or a low-spender. One week ahead, I changed my mind. The economy is fine and I can enjoy many good decks. In my current opinion, the only thing that need change is the no liquefy first 3 copies rule.

I am not the luckiest player (no 100 packs key jackpot) and neither I do any reroll. Just straight up normal player that buys all crystal package, plus battle pass. Currently, I have 2 top tier, pretty much fully upgraded decks (puppet portalcraft and artifact portalcraft, 3 if you include hybrid). I also have enough vials from extra cards to upgrade my half-baked decks into good viability (ramp dragon, midrange sword, aggro abyss). The only classes where I don't have enough resources to even make half-baked decks are runecraft and havencraft, in which both have very expensive top tier decks (I am absolutely fine with this, F2P players and low-spenders aren't supposed to have everything). Finally, I have around 7000 gold that I save for next expansion (that is still growing everyday) as I am satisfied enough with my current collection.

So far so good. I am having a blast with this game and I have variety of viable decks. So, what happens that suddenly change my mind and my perspective on the economy? It turns out that the economy is REALLY supported by the freebies that Cygames give (Daily packs, park keys, events, events, events (many of them), bonus packs from here and there, and recently, 3 free legendary packs). So, as long as Cygames keep pumping up these freebies, I think the economy is going to be fine.

As much as I hate the no liquefy first 3 copies rule (and expensive cosmetics lol), I can't give the game negative review anymore.
Anonymous No.528861015
>>528860857
But forest suffers from wards the most?
Anonymous No.528861021
>>528860925
You forgot about Bellerophon Haven in Rotations and Unlimited?
Anonymous No.528861026 >>528861169
I wish I was a haven slutty priestess sucking shota cocks behind the chapel
Anonymous No.528861061
BRICK CITY
Anonymous No.528861070 >>528861120 >>528861396
>>528858339 (OP)
I barely see anyone with signa emblem… the only ones i see in the park are the mainstream ones like dark jeanne and sekka…
Anonymous No.528861074 >>528861270
Honestly I’m just having a lot of fun with this game and wanted to post something positive about it after seeing all the negative reviews.

I’ll freely admit that I’m not a FTP player, but I haven’t spent a ton (only $200) and I’m really enjoying the fast-paced experience and play styles so far.

I’ve never played the original Shadowverse so I’m not doing a direct comparison here. I will say however that compared to the CCGs/TCGs I’m used to (Hearthstone, MTG including physical) the cost here really doesn’t seem out of line from what I’m accustomed to with this genre. Again, not comparing to the original, just the experience of a totally new player.

I was going to wait longer to write a post like this so I could speak with more gameplay experience, but I have a few decks built with reasonable success and am having a ton of fun, and because I almost didn’t start this game because of some of the negative posts I wanted to write from my experience to encourage other new players to try it out!

Good luck out there all!
Anonymous No.528861092
You already copypasted that one Orchis. also you need to increase the deck price, its at $350 now
Anonymous No.528861108 >>528861425
Is this person complaining about Haven so much because they want to be the special snowflake about playing them or something. They could have switched by now.
Anonymous No.528861114 >>528861308
>>528860789
well have to start somewhere.
Anonymous No.528861120 >>528861275 >>528861903
>>528861070
dark jeanne is not mainstream take that back
Anonymous No.528861160 >>528861348
Why do we have a resident haven avatarfag downplayer
Anonymous No.528861165
>>528858814
They did at first whenever they nerfed cards but stopped doing it after a while.
Anonymous No.528861169
>>528861026
You mean sucking big fat demon cocks behind the chapel
Anonymous No.528861174 >>528861251
i wish i was orchis
Anonymous No.528861195 >>528861317 >>528861382 >>528862408
>>528860827
I want to fall for the bait...
Anonymous No.528861235 >>528861509
I wish I was having sex with Orchis.
Anonymous No.528861251
>>528861174
Don't worry anon, everyone already hates you.
Anonymous No.528861256
>>528860473
They should have thought about that before fucking over the vial economy.
Anonymous No.528861258 >>528861330 >>528861463 >>528861531 >>528861542 >>528861576
Does Aragavy matter for shadow?
I have all the Cerbs and Sneks and stuff, just not this dude
Anonymous No.528861270
>>528861074
Tranny brain.
Anonymous No.528861275 >>528861502
>>528861120
Dork jeanne is hella mainstream, she even has a granblue version and the granblue version has an alt.
Anonymous No.528861308
>>528861114
point being that rank dictates matchmaking just as much as group does and it's infinitely easier to reach diamond in early ranks
don't worry bro keep at it maybe you'll stay there but you probably won't
Anonymous No.528861317
>>528861195
Roach hands typed this post
Anonymous No.528861330
>>528861258
he is the premium removal
Anonymous No.528861341 >>528861496 >>528861580
bet you weren't expecting that huh fat bald faggot
Anonymous No.528861348
>>528861160
par for the course, hags were downplaying since the beginning of time
Anonymous No.528861354
Lloyd is Orchis' personal dildo... You will never compare to Lloyd.
Anonymous No.528861370 >>528862685 >>528864129 >>528864256
>lost 30 times with Runedeck.
>/svg/ recommend face dragon.
>waifu is playing Abyss.
>I actually plan to play Abyss but got shoved to play Rune by gacha.
>Abyss is incomplete deck and next abyss legend might replace any legend Abyss currently have.
Anonymous No.528861380
I want to give love letters to Anne then watch as she laughs and talks about how lesbian she is while shitting on men in general
Anonymous No.528861382 >>528861748
>>528861195
why do you want to be raped
Anonymous No.528861385
>>528861007
How many times will you spam this?
Anonymous No.528861396
>>528861070
Signa was released after the game went into maint mode so only really dedicated players and whales/luckshits after the game came out have her.
Anonymous No.528861425
>>528861108
obviously
Anonymous No.528861428
>>528860342
I'm thinking that the ward summon should be an evo effect.
Anonymous No.528861438 >>528861565 >>528861678 >>528861794
Rune is genuinely starting to make me reconsider playing this game long term.
Anonymous No.528861453 >>528861624
>>528860857
I know none of the portalragers have been hit by a good roach player. All of the damage hits face. At least the bullshit highroll rune boards don't have storm.
Anonymous No.528861458
>haven downplayer
Go play Haven otherwise shut the FUCK up.
Anonymous No.528861463
>>528861258
yes
you cant use incomplete decks with abyss
i think you need at least 2 aragavy, 2 cerbs, 1 medussa, 1 olivia.
Anonymous No.528861472 >>528861587 >>528861713 >>528861778
so we know portal and rune are objectively the best right now
but who downplays their deck the most?
Anonymous No.528861496
>>528861341
>4 fairies in hand
>ate your extra pp
>completely worthless board (rush means fairies clear bellringer literally for cree)
good work amataz, you did your part
Anonymous No.528861502
>>528861275
Dark Jeanne is even in the Rage of Bahamut anime
Anonymous No.528861503 >>528861764
hags might as well mean haven fags
Anonymous No.528861509 >>528861629
>>528861235
I wish the game wasn't generic, you can put fucking women from all ages naked in front of me, I'd rather go back to shadowverse 1's story and characters. Only Isabelle had the fucking boobs and it was fine. The only good thing they did was to kill blood and shadow and vampy along with it. Cerberus is fine.
Anonymous No.528861531
>>528861258
Two copies feels pretty necessary to make the deck feel good sadly. Other removal for decks that go wide like apollo is nice instead, but aragavy is insanely flexible. I honestly think he is the second most important abyss lego after cerb.
Anonymous No.528861542
>>528861258
Hes good. his damage order isn't random and targets the oldest cards>newest cards on the board
Anonymous No.528861565 >>528861678
>>528861438
game would be fine if they banned dimension climb or at least restricted that trash to 1 per deck
who the fuck designed this shit? It's like everyone is stuck playing shadowverse and rune is playing YGO
Anonymous No.528861576 >>528862474
>>528861258
aragavy carries the midgame on his back (or tries his best and it fucking sucks when you have evo him against aggro)
Anonymous No.528861580 >>528861712
>>528861341
this doesn't look like a winning position
Anonymous No.528861587
>>528861472
Portal and sword, duh
Anonymous No.528861595
I haven't showered in 3 days
Anonymous No.528861624
>>528861453
Rune can 20 to 0 in 2 different ways but only with 10 mana, it's not really a consistent deck though I can outplay people with portal but rune is just about how well I draw
Anonymous No.528861629 >>528862517
>>528861509
Eris also had tits
Anonymous No.528861652 >>528861804
What does a bricked hand look like?
Anonymous No.528861678
>>528861438
>>528861565
It's seriously like they just stapled spellboost effects onto their cards at zero cost, or even negative cost. It's outrageous.
Anonymous No.528861712
>>528861580
i was gonna agree, then i realize orthrus is already online for turn 4 and they already have gravy and cerb in hand
so it could go either way really
Anonymous No.528861713
>>528861472
sword by far
Anonymous No.528861720
The trick to beat haven is summoning guys who have 4 health by turn 4 it’s hard to deal with that and doesn’t give them a turn to heal
Anonymous No.528861748
>>528861382
Elves don't rape
Anonymous No.528861764 >>528861993
>>528861503
Haven isn't hags anymore and thank god for that. Hagkeks get no dedicated craft anymore.
Anonymous No.528861778 >>528861926
>>528861472
Portal players do some mental gymnastics to pretend their Alouette into Sylvia into Orchis isn't so bad when it's 95% of the time a guaranteed win on any board.

Rune players just now that T4 Anne into T5 Anne into T6 Kuon into T7 Kuon with some Destroyers sprinkled around is absolute fucking bullshit and they are just waiting for the nerf any time soon.
Anonymous No.528861782 >>528862414 >>528865589
Thank you to anons who replied to my query
I am now bankrupt and got two Aragavy, let's see how poorly this is going to go
Anonymous No.528861794
>>528861438
Making Dimension Climb refill Rune's hand shows they learned exactly nothing from the first game.
Anonymous No.528861804
>>528861652
You spend the first few turns doing absolutely fucking nothing because your opening hand managed to be all of your high cost cards, and then your mulligan is also all of the high cost cards.
Anonymous No.528861848 >>528862148 >>528863039
I did a funny
Anonymous No.528861858
this is the worst day of my life
Anonymous No.528861862
WTB vampy outfit for my park character
Anonymous No.528861883
>rune bricks
>YOUR OPPONENT HAS REQUESTED A REMATCH
lol
Anonymous No.528861903
>>528861120
Jeannes are all mainstream by association
Damn french
Anonymous No.528861926
>>528861778
Don't forget william or that wind blast card just dramatically overkilling anything that manages to out-value their infinite value engines.
Anonymous No.528861935
Are the japs uppity on twitter and twitch streams about the game being shit or what
Anonymous No.528861993
>>528861764
what do you mean by that? eris is forever 17
Anonymous No.528861997
>"Ready Grea?, Right behi-
Anonymous No.528862014
Hmm I will just leave detective on the board what is she gonna-
Anonymous No.528862027
This is the hottest girl Cygames has ever created. You can't beat this, but I sure can beat my meat to Rosine.
Anonymous No.528862036 >>528862373
>cards have different voicelines when certain cards are on the field

what the fuck, nobody told me about this
Anonymous No.528862048
I want to go back to emerald.
Anonymous No.528862062
Its super janky but I feel like the dragon storm/burn deck has potential.
Anonymous No.528862067 >>528862223 >>528862382 >>528862390 >>528863357
>>528858814
Yeah in 2016
https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0025 Don't expect anything but a list of nerfs these days though.
Also
>Homecoming’s ability to force opponents to deal with full hands makes this card uniquely frustrating, and not in the fun, challenging kind of way!
Because of what they wrote here ιŽε‰°γͺγ‚Ήγƒˆγƒ¬γ‚Ή became a meme in Japan back then and Cygames apparently didn't like that because they never wrote subjective stuff like this again.
Anonymous No.528862148 >>528862201
>>528861848
How many tries did that take?
Anonymous No.528862162 >>528862913
I love chestslop now
Anonymous No.528862201
>>528862148
I needed the haven mirror match to make it happen
Anonymous No.528862223 >>528863667
>>528862067
does cygames have a customer support email you can write to?
Anonymous No.528862247
>>528860059
Honestly Alouette is just proof that the decision to standardise all evolve statlines on +2/+2 was fucking retarded. In SV1 she'd be a +0/+0 evolve and wouldn't be a problem.
Anonymous No.528862265 >>528862289 >>528862313
>rune just concedes
but why though?
Anonymous No.528862272
Every single issue listed here would be fixed if the +1pp for going 2nd didn't refresh.

2nd player getting to shit out an overtuned 5cost card one turn earlier while also being able to evolve it 1 turn earlier than opponent is a huge tempo swing.
Getting to do that AGAIN with superEvo a few turns later is the fucked up part.
Kuon on turn 6 + superEvo is the most stupid shit.
Anonymous No.528862279
So is Abyss going to be tier 0 once Vampy releases in two weeks?
Anonymous No.528862289
>>528862265
3 cocytus 2 Kuon
Anonymous No.528862313
>>528862265
They're babies
Anonymous No.528862373 >>528862442 >>528862553 >>528862592 >>528862709 >>528862843
>>528862036
Philnoa, Alouette, Zirconia and someone else have lines together. Phidau is begging Alouette for something and she's like Fuck off Phildau I'm busy.
Anonymous No.528862382
>>528862067
I miss Homecoming. Imagine if Roach had even 7pp Homecoming right now.
Anonymous No.528862390 >>528863357
>>528862067
do you have link to aegis nerf note?
Anonymous No.528862392
>>528860403
I wonder who's behind this post
Anonymous No.528862405
>>528859751
>without a single Banish effect
Bro... Your priest...
Anonymous No.528862408
>>528860752
>>528861195
dont post about my favorite class and leader like this please
Anonymous No.528862414
>>528861782
You will regret it! Good luck!
Anonymous No.528862418 >>528862479 >>528862568 >>528862708
Dont let anyone know but shes won me so many games
Anonymous No.528862442
>>528862373
>she
Anonymous No.528862448
I can’t play my allergies are acting up I’m so itchy I took a Claritin but I can’t focus
Anonymous No.528862456
>>528858679
Scopabile
Anonymous No.528862474
>>528861576
yeah his evo feels horrible, if instead he had something like evo: heal for 2 or even nothing he would be better at least in the current state of abyss
Anonymous No.528862479 >>528862665 >>528862798
>>528862418
I think she's incredibly strong into the artifact match up. She's just Twilight Dragon lite into anything else from my experience though.
Anonymous No.528862517
>>528861629
Eris was modest hence why sissies faggots hated her and didn't vibe with her. They liked Nephthys so "hag" isn't an argument.
Anonymous No.528862532
just lost a game because I was too busy looking at ceres's tits to realize she has barrier
Anonymous No.528862553
>>528862373
>she
Alouette is the only one with no gender designation
Anonymous No.528862568 >>528864069
>>528862418
I just wish her crest were more punishing to rune/portal players.
Anonymous No.528862587
swordbro...
Anonymous No.528862592 >>528862730 >>528862843
>>528862373
This is the interaction Just differently.
Ronavero: Phildau, long time no see.
Opponent drops Zircornia:Stand in my way and I will cut you down, Phildau
Anonymous No.528862665
>>528862479
7 vs 9 is really big if you miss your ramp.
They kinda work together too since you use twillight to restock after.

That extra 5-6 damage has been the difference too.
Anonymous No.528862685
>>528861370
Just be like me. I YOLOed it by spending 14000 vials on an abyss deck.
Anonymous No.528862695 >>528862846 >>528862957
Those anons posting images of themselves stomping rune have most likely gotten destroyed by rune in a bunch of games before they finally got their win.
Anonymous No.528862708
>>528862418
I wish burnite crest was on regular evolution
Anonymous No.528862709 >>528862843
>>528862373
All the ward cards do I'm pretty sure. Mukan basically tells Phildau to shut the fuck up so pretty based.
Anonymous No.528862712 >>528863239
>>528859947
All the heals are worse than other crafts. The banner heal and Water bitch are only notable heals. 5 heal from 6 ward slut is clutch, but it mostly bricks your hand.
Anonymous No.528862730
>>528862592
whys everyone so mean to genki main character phildau... zirconia just wants his cock
Anonymous No.528862780
>Drop artifacts from my deck
>Becomes stronger
Sorry gundamfags, Im taking the puppetpill and just storming face
Anonymous No.528862798
>>528862479
Not him but 7 mana is low enough to get storm from zell, if it's your 2nd/3rd and you don't need the crest, and depending on the board you don't need to pitch a huge card if zell can clear a ward
Anonymous No.528862843 >>528862901 >>528862904 >>528862938 >>528863219
>>528862709
>>528862592
>>528862373
>Card interactions are just telling Phildau to fuck off or shut up
What did he do?
Anonymous No.528862846
>>528862695
DELETE THIS
Anonymous No.528862901
>>528862843
just look at him
Anonymous No.528862904 >>528862968
>>528862843
By the look of that mask, pretend to be woman
Anonymous No.528862913 >>528863000
>>528862162
sorry bro, hopefully you'll get a good one next
Anonymous No.528862938 >>528863020
>>528862843
*kills you*
Anonymous No.528862953 >>528863124 >>528863772
Alouette is not a problem if you know how to play against her. Just go big instead of wide. She can't even clear unevolved Anne grea which is lol for a 5 cost evo....
Anonymous No.528862957
>>528862695
Only thing that Rune does that beats me is an on curve Grea.
Normally I just run them over if they dont have it
Anonymous No.528862963 >>528863047
Please tell me the battle pass goes into extra tiers when you finish it
Anonymous No.528862968
>>528862904
He's very clearly a man once he takes it off though like he's not even androgynous like Kuon or Alouette
Anonymous No.528862997 >>528863540
>artifact mirror going second
>he concedes because he assumes I'm going to coin gundam next turn
>doesn't realized that I fucked up bigly and was an artifact short.
Anonymous No.528863000
>>528862913
I'd take any shitty one over another 100 rupies or whatever
Anonymous No.528863017
so when can we expect people to start hitting grandmaster?
Anonymous No.528863020
>>528862938
Nice try
Anonymous No.528863038 >>528863157 >>528863228 >>528863291
Which character do you think will return in the next expansion to save Abyss?
Anonymous No.528863039
>>528861848
GOBLIN GOD
Anonymous No.528863047 >>528863125 >>528863156 >>528863165 >>528863416 >>528863426
>>528862963
Remember a week ago when faggots were crying the pass was LITERALLY MATHMATIACALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO FINISH lol
Anonymous No.528863050 >>528863141 >>528863202 >>528863226 >>528863249 >>528863271 >>528863412 >>528863445 >>528863619 >>528863640 >>528863860 >>528864161 >>528864196 >>528865978
People complain about portal and rune but why not forest?
I think it can be pretty oppressive at times.
Anonymous No.528863103
I get hard whenever I hit Arisa in her stupid elf face
Anonymous No.528863124
>>528862953
>Go big instead of wide, changing your entire gameplan around a single card
>She still trades and gets a 3/5 mecha that heals or damages you
not a problem at all
Anonymous No.528863125
>>528863047
how were they supposed to know the random chest event was going to fill it up
Anonymous No.528863141
>>528863050
Nobody plays forest.
Anonymous No.528863156
>>528863047
no one expected the chest event to give BP progress
Anonymous No.528863157
>>528863038
laura waltz gremory eachtar chris
Anonymous No.528863165 >>528863426
>>528863047
>people complain about problem before they drop bandage for the problem XD
That's crazy bro
Anonymous No.528863189 >>528863270 >>528863272 >>528863349
Haven needs amulet that spawns some wards (preferably shieldmaidens) to make Reno viable
Anonymous No.528863202
>>528863050
They actually worked for the win
Anonymous No.528863212
>no bane on ghost anymore
but why
Anonymous No.528863219
>>528862843
Foids are jealous of his superior sex appeal
Anonymous No.528863226 >>528864253
>>528863050
Forest is strong but it's too high effort compared to just brainlessly dropping whatever you can play on portal/rune
Anonymous No.528863228 >>528863456
>>528863038
Vania for obvious reasons. If the Omens are coming back, people really liked the x versus y thing they had going on last time so Yuzuki will probably be back too.
Anonymous No.528863239
>>528862712
>All the heals are worse than other crafts.
Really? The only healing outside of haven that I know sees play are olivia, ceres, sylvia, and that 3pp rune spell for 3. The first three are just big value cards that happen to have a little healing attached, and rune one is just because they are desperate for healing.
Anonymous No.528863249
>>528863050
We’ll get forest complaint soons. I’m at D2 and I’ve noticed a rising amount of forestcrafts
I already got roached in SV1 so it doesn’t bother me as much personally
Anonymous No.528863258 >>528863343 >>528863392 >>528863893
does it take long to get a class to 100 in sv1?
i want the token alt art
Anonymous No.528863270
>>528863189
god i hate ward haven
one of the stall decks that most relies on boardlock from hitting the 1 attack wards (so they dont trade)
Anonymous No.528863271
>>528863050
Do you not see how much they struggle to remove wards without Glade?
Anonymous No.528863272
>>528863189
Just give him aura, then he will be infinitely more stronger
Anonymous No.528863287 >>528863339
Why does portal get to be the strongest class, have the main character of the game, and have the main heroine as a legendary?
Anonymous No.528863291
>>528863038
mordekaiser
Anonymous No.528863339
>>528863287
if you think portal is somehow the strongest class then you're hardstuck topaz
Anonymous No.528863343
>>528863258
as far as i remember no, the grind begins at level 140
Anonymous No.528863349 >>528863621
>>528863189
I like her, she's already very oppressive.
You bleed 4 chip on the super evo and they either take more chip getting rid of her or are forced to use a single target spell
if you could buff her with aura or pop out wards she'd be even better
Anonymous No.528863357 >>528864237
>>528862067
>>528862390
>Match data from high-ranked users reveals that these Aegis Haven decks have a 49.9% win rate and an 8.0% use rate. This presents no issue in itself, but the deck’s win rate is higher in lower ranks: in B rank the win rate is 54.0%, and in C rank the win rate is 56.5%. (The win rate of most other decks doesn’t vary greatly by rank.)
https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0123 When every anon complaining about the card was outed as low rank. So they were still posting explanations and some stats here but some time later they stopped doing it.
Anonymous No.528863392
>>528863258
About 10 hours of macroing per class
Anonymous No.528863407
damn
Anonymous No.528863412
>>528863050
Forest is too hard to play for average player
Anonymous No.528863416
>>528863047
I'm pretty sure the issue wasn't it being impossible to complete but that you had to grind a ton to get 10k points in the first week.
Anonymous No.528863426
>>528863047
it's the same with people complaining about the economy, retards like >>528863165 think they're experts on a new gacha(yes, this is a gacha) day one
Anonymous No.528863445
>>528863050
Rune actively cheats throughout the game from a mechanical standpoint and Portal has SSSS-tier card quality. They're also obscenely popular because of how obviously better they are than every other class.
Forest is actually difficult to pilot so you don't run into them nonstop.
Anonymous No.528863456 >>528863548 >>528863660
>>528863228
anyone that actually uses vania is not a true oldfag
I don't think even grubbers use that name
Anonymous No.528863540
>>528862997
this is why I always wait for them to actually combine it in case I counted wrong
Anonymous No.528863548
>>528863456
i only use bampy because i get self conscious the other anons will make fun of me
i played on english dub for a solid while
Anonymous No.528863619
>>528863050
Ignore all the replies before, this is the actual reason
Anonymous No.528863621 >>528863761 >>528863964
>>528863349
Wasting super evo on haven on her is pretty risky considering haven really needs those for the kills, sometimes Reno + Shieldmaiden combo can give a win if opponent bricked. Reno is good for the chips though, especially in early forest / sword match-up.
Anonymous No.528863640
>>528863050
Forest has to manage its hand size instead of just infinitely scaling the 5 cards that matter, and it can't astrally project its faries without actually playing them, and can lose everything rushing 1/1s into a blaze destroyer trying to not die
Anonymous No.528863660 >>528863771
>>528863456
It is kinda funny how she's Vania in GBF but I've never seen a single granblue player ever call her that, she's just permanently vampy.
Anonymous No.528863667
>>528862223
A few days ago anons were sending feedback through the ingame UI in the additional menus somewhere.
Anonymous No.528863679 >>528863802 >>528863989
>play in topaz-ruby
>all my enemies are sword
>enter sapphire
>all my enemies are rune and portal
okay
Anonymous No.528863713
I cum to cuties
Anonymous No.528863741 >>528863785
like it or not forest is the most honest craft in the game right now
Anonymous No.528863761
>>528863621
This is true, but if it gets you into storm kill range it's a good payoff
Anonymous No.528863771
>>528863660
Jap name and she always refers to herself as bumpy though
Anonymous No.528863772
>>528862953
That's the best that you can do? Comparing Alouette to the most hilariously undercosted leggo in the game?
Anonymous No.528863785 >>528863871 >>528864380
>>528863741
Isnt Abyss the most honest?
Anonymous No.528863802
>>528863679
Sapphire and Diamond runes will make you want to uninstall
There's nothing fucking worse in this shitty unbalanced game than getting a Diamond rune player like KMR needs to be raped by fifty niggers for thinking this dimension climb bullshit was somehow okay
Anonymous No.528863860 >>528864258
>>528863050
Topazshitters are retarded and have no grasp of broken shit. They're seething about a super evo destroy 2 lol. Just wait until retarded stuff hits the meta outside of forest.
Anonymous No.528863871
>>528863785
Abyss is meme
Anonymous No.528863893
>>528863258
You can make a macro that loops the first story mission of the class and leave it on while you're AFK.
Anonymous No.528863964 >>528864094
>>528863621
it shouldnt be kills you're worried about because you get more damage from super evo'ing her than super evo'ing face. saving evos for other things is more reasonable
Anonymous No.528863970
Runecucks the only shitters in this godawful game that can have a deck with a counter to literally anything in the game and a free turn but still have the gall to cry about other classes or think anyone deserves nerfs more than them
Anonymous No.528863989 >>528864080 >>528864152
>>528863679
>enter diamond
>all of the enemies are forest
Anonymous No.528864056 >>528864190
I'd be happy with some rune spellboost minions worth dropping on 3 and 4 cost things won't get better next pack
Anonymous No.528864069
>>528862568
it punishes haven so that's something
Anonymous No.528864080
>>528863989
Forest is probably the only way to deal with Rune's bullshit since you can potentially OTK them from full with Roaches and not get robbed out of a win
Anonymous No.528864094 >>528864179
>>528863964
I meant, if you can clear board without her, it's better to do that. If reno somehow stays on board on next turn then of course you super evo her.
Anonymous No.528864125
And where is Haven????
Anonymous No.528864129
>>528861370
Honestly, Abyss legendaries will probably be safe for a few sets. Aragavy is just 7 board damage on a decent body. Can threaten a ton of damage on evo if he's not dealt with, and he still can be kinda useful as a for razory claw.
Medusa can clear super evo boards, and if they don't kill her when you have an evo or super, you threaten an OTK. With evo and Cerb, it's just an OTK
Cerb is amazing, but she comes out late. Can threaten a kill with ghost set up, clear a board with super evo while nuking their health a ton and setting up some healing for you. Can go more for healing out of kill range in exchange for damage, but she does restrict you to no 1 drops if you plan on using her evo for focused damaged or healing, since the 1 drop can cuck your reanimation pool.
Like, at worst you may not run them all at 3, but I can't see them being bad in whatever new sets are coming. This isn't like Ralmia(who might get way better if they print more artifact targets for her), where you run maybe 1 copy in your deck.
Anonymous No.528864152
>>528863989
I'm diamond and that didn't happen to me. It's the same fucking with you. Maybe it's a Rune thing.
Anonymous No.528864161
>>528863050
Forest still has to work for its wins
Anonymous No.528864179 >>528864250
>>528864094
no you still get more damage from super evo'ing her to clear boards than super evo'ing something else face
Anonymous No.528864190
>>528864056
I'd be happy if every rune player was lined up and publically executed
Anonymous No.528864196 >>528864304
>>528863050
forest, the thing is that there isnt that many people playing it, so people doesn't complain that much,
but the moment it becomes popular we will be living a real hell
Anonymous No.528864237 >>528864461
>>528863357
thanks anon. that note is peak shadoba
Anonymous No.528864250
>>528864179
Hmm, I forgot about super evo ping, you may be right.
Anonymous No.528864253 >>528864445
>>528863226
Forest is strong but it's fair. When I play vs Forest I know my goal is to stay over 18 health and ward up, and his goal is to stop me from doing that so he can combo out on t8-9. Plenty of interaction.

Portal is overtuned. When I play vs Portal I know both our goals are to beat each other at the midrange game and reach our win conditions, but the insane overabundance of tools Portal has means it's way harder for me than for him. Interaction is there but lopsided.

Rune is completely busted. Its card quality is so over the top that there's absolutely no way even for an aggro deck to get Rune from 20-0 before DClimb if Rune draws his answers on curve, so the only gameplan available is to hope he doesn't. 0 interaction.
Anonymous No.528864256
>>528861370
The fuck do you mean by waifu is playing abyss, zoomer?
Anonymous No.528864258 >>528864470
>>528863860
Hey now just because forest is top tier doesn't mean portal isn't its own brand of nonsense.
Anonymous No.528864278
Forest will never be popular working twice harder than everyone else
Anonymous No.528864304 >>528864394
>>528864196
truth is the strongest deck will always get complainers. even if its not really doing anything unfair
(like rune. feel free to ignore that if you disagree)
Anonymous No.528864323 >>528864569
Hello, did someone say Forest?
Anonymous No.528864345 >>528864483
>Coin Alloute boardwipe into Alloute heals
Anonymous No.528864380 >>528864518 >>528864710 >>528868178
>>528863785
Abyss is far from honest, that removal lego plus cerberus is huge as fuck and it's the shadowverse 2's version of eachtar. No craft is honest in this game.
Anonymous No.528864382 >>528865079
How do sets even work.
How many new cards will they be introducing per class.
Anonymous No.528864394
>>528864304
Bricking half the time high rolling half the time
Anonymous No.528864445 >>528864823 >>528865086
>>528864253
>When I play vs Forest I know my goal is to stay over 18 health and ward up, and his goal is to stop me from doing that so he can combo out on t8-9. Plenty of interaction.
not always the case. sometimes they curve better and you're inevitably fucked. it's just as bad as runecraft, but you don't see the solitaire happening on the board, it happens on their hand until they kill you
Anonymous No.528864461 >>528864953
>>528864237
what granblue character is this
Anonymous No.528864470 >>528864676
>>528864258
Portal is annoying but not that bullshit, I'll roll my eyes if I lose to some orchis shit but that's it. Same as other decks.
The only bullshit craft is Rune since they can rob the game at any point and any turn like a get out of jail free card and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Anonymous No.528864483
>>528864345
Alloute shouldn't spawn a copy of an artifact it should just rip it from your hand
Anonymous No.528864484 >>528864583 >>528864591 >>528864614 >>528864662 >>528864731 >>528864741 >>528865246
finally...
Anonymous No.528864518
>>528864380
Most honest person in the room
Anonymous No.528864545 >>528864623
>mulligan my hand
>literally get the same shit back
AHHHHHHH
Anonymous No.528864569
>>528864323
AAAAAIEEEEE
Anonymous No.528864583 >>528864670
>>528864484
bro your satan and 3th olivia/medusa?
Anonymous No.528864591
>>528864484
stupid sexy evil shota
Anonymous No.528864614
>>528864484
I expect you to impregnate Haven
Anonymous No.528864623 >>528865142
>>528864545
dishonest craft gets a dishonest hand
Anonymous No.528864662
>>528864484
>want to play abyss
>hate aggro
>don't have 3x medusa
>don't have 3x cerb
Anonymous No.528864670 >>528864809
>>528864583
>satan

lol

>3th olivia

lol

>3th

lol
Anonymous No.528864676 >>528864720
>>528864470
shut the fuck up portalnigger
Anonymous No.528864683
>need to craft forest golds to win in diamond
I don't wanna play that shit...fucking roach is STILL haunting me...
Anonymous No.528864697 >>528864736 >>528864843
Which dong is best dong?
Anonymous No.528864703 >>528864748
>unlocked the steam achievement of winning 50 ranked matches as havencraft
If you don't have this I don't view you as an actual havencraft main and I will NOT take your opinion seriously when it comes to havencraft
Anonymous No.528864710
>>528864380
>No craft is honest in this game.
Exactly. It's simply a matter of how dishonest your deck is.
Anonymous No.528864720 >>528864787
>>528864676
stay hardstuck emerald
Anonymous No.528864726
Do we ever get favela leaders or will they all be battlepass and gacha? Will they add more to the shop? Like I want vampy will there be a vampy event for a free vampy or wills they make me jew 350 packies?
Anonymous No.528864731 >>528865280
>>528864484
Why is his neck so THIN.
What the hell.
Anonymous No.528864736 >>528864848
>>528864697
Did they ever give her a leader skin?
Anonymous No.528864741
>>528864484
This brat needs correction.
Anonymous No.528864748 >>528864854
>>528864703
But no one seeking haven validation..
Anonymous No.528864787
>>528864720
sorry lil pup im a diamond runenig
Anonymous No.528864809 >>528865013
>>528864670
do you even want to win turn 12+ slugfests with all evo points exhausted?
Anonymous No.528864823
>>528864445
How? Forest effects all need interaction on board
Anonymous No.528864843 >>528865003
>>528864697
I wanted to change to old art for nostalgia but her new one is so much better and she looks much happier there too
Anonymous No.528864848 >>528866356
>>528864736
only in china
Anonymous No.528864854
>>528864748
Because none of you play it.
Holy fuck, only 1.2%.

Literally no one plays this fucking class.
Anonymous No.528864857 >>528864925 >>528865005 >>528865015 >>528865386 >>528866524 >>528869220
Rune is a normal deck and bricks just like everyone else.
Anonymous No.528864865 >>528864967
Reminder that Jeno can 1v1 super evolve gundam
Anonymous No.528864925
>>528864857
You can't tell these retarded emerald and topaz players anything cant wait for most of them to quit
Anonymous No.528864953
>>528864461
De La Fille
Anonymous No.528864967
>>528864865
holy based
Anonymous No.528865003
>>528864843
The old one have the better voiceline so i swapped to that art
Anonymous No.528865005 >>528869329
>>528864857
>1pp spell
>8 damage
Fun and fair
Anonymous No.528865013 >>528865153
>>528864809
turn 12 slugfests against who? haven, rune and sword all have better base cards for those situations and the former two generally run cocky anyway thus bricking me out of my own copy
Anonymous No.528865015
>>528864857
>their deck size goes from 28 to 9 in two turns
Anonymous No.528865018 >>528865124 >>528865247
I love sensei!
Anonymous No.528865034 >>528865193
Rune is too big brain for me

Going back to unga bunga sword
Anonymous No.528865064
All my games reach to like turn 15.
Anonymous No.528865079 >>528865227
>>528864382
probably same as now
3 legos per class and 2 for neutral
Anonymous No.528865086 >>528865193 >>528865213 >>528865236 >>528865328 >>528865554
>>528864445
I don't mind forest solitaire because it needs math skills. The average shitter doesn't have the math skills or brain required to calculate the optimal lethal path to kill with Roach so they'll fuck it up and be free wins.

Meanwhile any random newfag from some gachatrash general can pick up a Rune deck and make it to Diamond overnight because the deck plays itself, has tons of 0-cost spells and followers, counters to literally any class and zero decisions to make. Even if you're an absolute shitter and find yourself struggling then you can easily just play Dimension Shift and get out of any sticky situation you might have found yourself in, free of charge.
Anonymous No.528865124
>>528865018
SHUKUDAI DESU
Anonymous No.528865142
>>528864623
I won.. barely
Anonymous No.528865153
>>528865013
abyss mirror and portal
Anonymous No.528865178 >>528866991 >>528867093
>always save my evo points for big hitters
>been watching some JP streamers (mainly to learn roach)
>they use their evo points on whatever to keep the board clear

Maybe I've been doing it wrong
Anonymous No.528865193
>>528865086
Meanwhile in reality >>528865034
Anonymous No.528865213 >>528865796
>>528865086
>because it needs math skills.
Big misconception. It just needs order of execution which is not hard, Rune needs the same shit but no one upplays it
Anonymous No.528865227 >>528865406
>>528865079
So they wont make gold, silver and bronze cards????

Its just a new wave of legendaries?
How the fuck would rolling for them even work then.
Anonymous No.528865236 >>528865796
>>528865086
Reminder that there's more forestcraft masters than rune
Anonymous No.528865246
>>528864484
why the FUCK did they use my harvinwife's name on this thing
Anonymous No.528865247 >>528865339
>>528865018
>Runenigger momposting
>Poorfag runenigger running on potato phones
I thought it was supposed to be an insult but guess you all really are 3rd world browns huh?
Anonymous No.528865273 >>528865568 >>528865939
>ζ‰‹εŠ ζΈ›γ—γ¦γ‚ˆ

>Gross... Don't act all nice.

Whoever's in charge of these translations should be fucking raped and executed on the spot
Anonymous No.528865280
>>528864731
damn i can't unsee now
fuck you anon
Anonymous No.528865328 >>528865496
>>528865086
hey now relax Rune isn't braindead. you need very high intelligence to play it:
>turns 1-4 doesn't matter, spellboost or throw spells for funsies!! :D
>turn 5 A&G
>turn 6 A&G (or William if you got unlucky!!)
>turn 7 Kuon
>turn 8 Kuon
match should be over by then, hope this helps.
Anonymous No.528865339 >>528865661
>>528865247
>potato phones
>when my mouse cursor is clearly visible in the image
I used simple stage in SV1, I'll use it again in SV2
Anonymous No.528865356
I would promote him just to spite weeb faggots like you.
Anonymous No.528865386
>>528864857
I just don't get why they designed DClimb like that, the thing doesn't even mulligan, it's hard draw 5 so you can burn through all your hand and play it last to refill your hand AND replenish all your PP at the same time ready to pile more on the board. Even give 5 boosts so your 1 PP spell can deal 7 right out the bat because why the fuck not.
Like who thought this shit is ok?
Anonymous No.528865406 >>528865579
>>528865227
they do ofc.
and they too, should have same distribution as current pack
Anonymous No.528865413
Are mods possible for this game?
Anonymous No.528865424 >>528865542 >>528865587 >>528865658 >>528865714 >>528865768
thoughts???
Anonymous No.528865429
>9 win streak swordbab
>matchmaking connection issue
ah here we go, KMR is going to balance my winrate. i had too much fun.
Anonymous No.528865475
it's funny how you retards whine about decks being too easy to pilot when everything apart from maybe forest is autopilot, and even forest is 5 year old math. just say you want free wins and move on
Anonymous No.528865496
>>528865328
>Double kuon

Nice emerald play brother
Anonymous No.528865516 >>528865563 >>528865606 >>528865610 >>528865621 >>528865641 >>528865713 >>528865829 >>528865864
Portal players
>metafag poorfags
Rune players
>metafags
Forest players
>elitists who want to play the β€˜hard’ deck
Haven players
>sisses/gay/trannies
Abyss players
>pedophiles
Dragon players
>unironically say aura and like solo leveling
Sword players
>if Albert massive fujo gooner/if not new player or mentally challenged
Anonymous No.528865542
>>528865424
Garyu is too slow to be in A tier.
Anonymous No.528865554 >>528865796
>>528865086
It can't be that difficult if everyone is playing it in masters/diamond
Anonymous No.528865563
>>528865516
hey I like solo leveling and Albert but I don't say aura..
Anonymous No.528865568 >>528865739 >>528865776 >>528865939 >>528866972
>>528865273
They've always been like this. I don't know why they do this with leaders. Some get proper translations and some get their personalities completely rewritten.

Daria is the most blatant example and all her lines/personality are completely different in JP and EN. Including her name, did you know she's actually called Dorothy in JP as a reference to the Wizard of Oz?
Anonymous No.528865579
>>528865406
So....How are people gonna be expected to afford it unless with every set they hand out a ton of free fucking rolls.

Even then most people only managed getting the decks they have because of rerolling, now that you wont have that option how the fuck are you going to get all those fuckton of cards.
Anonymous No.528865587 >>528867294
>>528865424
Garyu is just bad Kuon.
Anonymous No.528865589
>>528861782
I demoted from sapphire all the way down to topaz trying to get my last win for my 4 ranked wins daily with abyss.
Anonymous No.528865590 >>528865717 >>528866074
>been playing nothing rune
>started losing more than I win
>been also playing sword
>feel like I have more control

Maybe I should just give up rune
Anonymous No.528865606
>>528865516
I want to fuck elves
Anonymous No.528865607
I want Albert to fuck me.
Anonymous No.528865610
>>528865516
shit dragonbros they got us, solo leveling is my favorite animu
Anonymous No.528865621
>>528865516
not my fault eudie, the game's canon love interest, is in portal
Anonymous No.528865641 >>528865743 >>528865801 >>528865852 >>528868684
>>528865516
Abyss bros are we pedophiles?
Anonymous No.528865658
>>528865424
swap jeanne and albert, cerb in A, garyu in B, ralmia in B
Anonymous No.528865661
>>528865339
whatever you say jamal
maybe you can compete on who's browner between you and your leader
Anonymous No.528865696
is it bad that i mesh well with haven's playstyle than portal despite the game shitting out the entire card pool of the latter to me?
Anonymous No.528865713
>>528865516
>Abyss
Oh shit I'm playing the wrong archetype.
Anonymous No.528865714
>>528865424
Haven is F tier, ALL the way fucking down.
Anonymous No.528865717 >>528865841 >>528869661
>>528865590
Despite what people will tell you here most of the time they aren't drawing into grea so you just aggro rape them or get raped if you're a rune player. If you take a rune player pass turn 9 you deserve to lose honestly
Anonymous No.528865726 >>528865976
>runes winrate is balanced because it can brick!
Isn't this really bad card game design
Anonymous No.528865739
>>528865568
I play in Japanese but I always loved her "with a bang and a boom" from watching Kripp streams.
Anonymous No.528865740 >>528865779 >>528865825 >>528865892 >>528865904 >>528869753
RANKED IS 90% PORTAL AND RUNE

WHAT WENT SO WRONG
Anonymous No.528865743
>>528865641
Yes, we are.
Anonymous No.528865768
>>528865424

Garyu is pretty much the worst of the big lategame legendaries since you cant ramp into super evolution. By the time you can use him the opponent can use theirs to deal with him. He should have cost 10 but his super evolution should have been his innate state.
Anonymous No.528865776 >>528866094
>>528865568
I'm well aware since Dorothy is my wife's favorite card and she was fucking appalled at how they butchered the translations
Anonymous No.528865779
>>528865740
There's a long list of things wrong with those classes.
Anonymous No.528865796 >>528865928
>>528865554
>>528865236
>>528865213
Yeah they're masters for a reason, because they can actually play it. The average retard that picks up forest because they saw the masters players do it will flop and be free wins since the deck actually requires two braincells to rub together.
Anonymous No.528865801
>>528865641
I'm not sure yet. You should post a few more examples first
Anonymous No.528865825
>>528865740
cute leaders that's why
Anonymous No.528865829
>>528865516
I just want to fuck a fairy
Anonymous No.528865841
>>528865717
That's kinda what I've been feeling. Everyone screams about grea/kuon but I've been finding they're so easily dealt with, so is that 8/9. I mean what's even the point of dropping the 0 cost 8/9 if it gets instantly cleared.
Anonymous No.528865852
>>528865641
sir yes sir!
Anonymous No.528865854 >>528865947 >>528865993 >>528866590
How will Doroshii get out of this pickle?
Anonymous No.528865864
>>528865516
NeutralGODS win again!
Anonymous No.528865892
>>528865740
>1 set out

WHY IS EVERYONE PLAYING THE SAmE SUFF
Anonymous No.528865904
>>528865740
Meta and easy to play
Anonymous No.528865928
>>528865796
I fear forest simply because its terrifying when piloted correctly.
I don't care how much skill a deck takes.
No I am not interested in having TF2 sniper in my card game.
Anonymous No.528865939 >>528866094 >>528866118 >>528866276 >>528866278
>>528865273
>>528865568
English translators are garbage in general. They always feel the need to be overly creative with their translations, even when it's not necessary at all. And that's when they're not forcing their political beliefs on a show or game.

Translators in other languages don't do that. At least not the ones I know.
Anonymous No.528865940
>master tries to take abysspill
>immediately drops to ruby
every time
Anonymous No.528865947
>>528865854
there's no better feeling than destroying some runenigger before they can start their solitaire bullshit
Anonymous No.528865952 >>528866128
I want to play forest so bad, I love the fairies so much. I guess I need to find a few guide to watch as I see everyone mulligan even their low cost.
Anonymous No.528865976 >>528866175
>>528865726
It can brick and it doesn't play the game for 4 turns. Most of the decks have bullshit but people are horrible because they do nothing for 4 turns then complain when they get dropped on by a grea and a full hp rune. Of course you fucking lost apply pressure man
Anonymous No.528865978 >>528866197 >>528866310
>>528863050
>but why not forest?
Because Forest actually has to work for it (relatively), and, as minuscule an effort as it may be, the fact that it's there at all is still worth respecting.
Portalkeks on the otherhand will never hold the respect of anyone, bargain as you might.
Anonymous No.528865993
>>528865854
demonic call into demonic call into looking smart into stormy with 3 mana leftover to drop another spellbooster
Anonymous No.528866041
>>528858505
32, this october i'll make It into 33, ita
Anonymous No.528866074
>>528865590
sword bricks less than rune, don't play rune if you can't draw properly
Anonymous No.528866094
>>528865939
>>528865776
Should have played the first shadowverse. EN translators completely rewrote the first story of the game but left the JP voices as-is so if you had JP audio with EN text then you were listening to the characters say something then read something completely different.

The story still reaches the same point but the way they reach it is wildly different and it's just insane that these people kept their jobs to do it all over again.
Anonymous No.528866109 >>528866181 >>528866190 >>528869986
When they release the new sets, wouldn't it be smarter to just keep rolling for the old set?

The best way to maximize as much vial gain as possible is to just stick to rolling on 1 set and only 1 set.
Seems a lot smarter than rolling for a new set where you wont get any vials for a while until they reach x3 copies per.
Anonymous No.528866118
>>528865939
I genuinely believe that most English translators just have no fucking idea about Japanese in general and are winging it

Since their superiors don't check for quality/accuracy they're allowed to get away with it

Worst example of this is VIZ with their FMA translation (Cselkcess instead of Xerxes???) and Dorohedoro (the entire fucking plot of the manga and the personality of most characters were missed due to mistranslation)

Would genuinely kill everyone involved if I could
Anonymous No.528866128 >>528866214
>>528865952
The deck falls flat if you don't see your godwood staff so they're hard mulliganing for it
Anonymous No.528866175 >>528866590
>>528865976
rune's only understatted early follower is the penguin, it can trade with everything else on board
Anonymous No.528866181
>>528866109
depends on what leaders you want.
Anonymous No.528866190 >>528866351
>>528866109
If you need cards from the new set, you are going to be better off opening the new packs unless you are only a couple of vials away from what you need.
Anonymous No.528866192 >>528866241 >>528866247 >>528866248 >>528866359 >>528866490 >>528866510 >>528866671 >>528866876 >>528867040 >>528867945
How do you respond without sounding mad?
Anonymous No.528866197
>>528865978
>Portalkeks on the otherhand will never hold the respect of anyone
Portal isn't that bad, there were a lot of SV1 expansions where they were mid or plain bad compared to other classes. Rune has always been absolute aids in every SV1 meta and I think this general doesn't hate rune enough but all of you will definitely learn.
Anonymous No.528866214 >>528866434
>>528866128
So it's a priority to get out then? It seems like they only hold fairies if they have roach in hand otherwise they burn them as much as possible. Watching these Jp streamers basically OTK people while they're at one health is insane.
Anonymous No.528866241
>>528866192
I twilight dra-
oh wait I can't because I didn't find 3 pieces of ramp.
Anonymous No.528866247
>>528866192
Divine Thunder into Apollo
Anonymous No.528866248
>>528866192
I play forest so top left
Anonymous No.528866268
just hit face and u win
Anonymous No.528866276
>>528865939
The Western localization/translation industry is plagued by low standards and a general lack of quality. This is partly due to personal agendas of localizers, but also because management in general does not give a fuck about the quality of the translation. It takes too much extra time and overhead to assess something that nebulous when all you care about is the bare minimum viable product. Combine that with the fact that the average consumer also doesn't place very high emphasis or even awareness on the quality of a translation, and this is the shit show we're stuck with.
Anonymous No.528866278 >>528866593 >>528866947
>>528865939
you're not wrong but a lot of people who complain about translators and post their shitty n5 or mtl take are just as retarded as the translators themselves
you've really gotta just learn japanese yourself because you can't trust fucking anyone else to know anything
Anonymous No.528866281 >>528866391 >>528866403 >>528866413
Is 300 sparks the only way to get a leader?
Anonymous No.528866310
>>528865978
Yeah well people who worry about what others think of them are insecure.
Anonymous No.528866351 >>528866835
>>528866190
Except majority of the cards you will be getting from the new set wont be the cards of the class you want.
It'll be from a wise assortment of classes.
And worse of all you wont get any vials.

Seems like the go to plan is to just spam the first set and produce a ton of vials and finally get what you specifically want from the new set.
Anonymous No.528866356 >>528866617
>>528864848
why china always gets nice things that we dont?
Anonymous No.528866359
>>528866192
Sylvia.
Anonymous No.528866391
>>528866281
Or be lucky
Anonymous No.528866403
>>528866281
They have a .06% rate to drop so pretty much
Anonymous No.528866413
>>528866281
you have to luckshit or, failing that, save up a very very long time to guarantee you get the one you want
Anonymous No.528866434 >>528866679
>>528866214
Yes, the deck doesn't work if you're just playing shit on curve. I'm happy to take some chip damage to put godwood staff out early if I already can enable May or Fay for a swing turn on turn 4. I spend fairies if it enables me to do more chip damage or I already decided that I got enough fairies for the next couple turns to do what I want.
Anonymous No.528866453 >>528866656
I hope portal gets nerfed so I can vial this mediocre deck and play abysskino
Anonymous No.528866476
Holy shit Abyss feels so ass if I don't grab the sneks
At which point it becomes fun, but it hinges completely on that huh
Don't like cerb being 8 instead of 5
Anonymous No.528866490 >>528866697
>>528866192
Anonymous No.528866510
>>528866192
orchis futa cock rape
Anonymous No.528866524 >>528866656
>>528864857
>can brick
Brick less than every other craft, same for Portal. Not how it works. Kuon and Grea are too game breaking even for this game, Orchis as well. If they don't reduce the powerlevel from the cards in this game, it's only gonna get in a more atrocious state, the game just launched and it's already bullshit, the tutorial shows you the over the top effects in a single card right off the bat. They'll need to get the balls to change every card or double down and the game plays for itself.
Anonymous No.528866590 >>528867103
>>528866175
Rune ability to trade is incredibly poor which is why they often get run over by aggro see >>528865854 and many more examples. I'm not saying its a fair but it is what it is when it comes to this deck
Anonymous No.528866593
>>528866278
I agree with your second point but the first isn't really relevant here. There are always going to be Dunning–Kruger retards but that doesn't change the fact that most translations ARE actually abysmal dogshit and totally worth complaining about

The bar should have never been this low
Anonymous No.528866617
>>528866356
we got farin and dietrich
sucks that we didn't get neutral leaders but we take what we can get
they should add farin as an alt style to kuon
Anonymous No.528866656
>>528866524
>by itself
>>528866453
I doubt they'll nerf anything, it's just how they want the game to be. I think instead of slowly raising the powerlevel they'll just go fast forward crazy.
Anonymous No.528866671
>>528866192
People don't realize you need 9pp for this and by that point a lot of board clears have already been expended.
Anonymous No.528866679 >>528866957
>>528866434
I guess I just need to play more then. I feel like I'm really close to getting a hang of it I'm just missing that "ah-ha" moment. It would be nice to face something other than fucking portal 99/100 games though
Anonymous No.528866697
>>528866490
not sure if I shuold use a globe on the coom chalice...
Anonymous No.528866713 >>528866818 >>528866859 >>528867046 >>528867153 >>528867326
Man, you really just don't get a lot of pay off for ramp dragon even if you hit everything perfectly.
Anonymous No.528866727 >>528866793 >>528866804 >>528866812 >>528866816 >>528866850 >>528866852
Do I gain anything substantial from playing story mode.
Anonymous No.528866793
>>528866727
rupies
Anonymous No.528866804
>>528866727
you give 400 rupies to the person whose code you used
Anonymous No.528866812
>>528866727
shekels
Anonymous No.528866816
>>528866727
2k gold
some cosmetics icon sleeve I think
Anonymous No.528866818
>>528866713
>ramp dragon
>when only 2 cards ramp, one on turn 3 and another only on evo or fucking overflow
Anonymous No.528866835 >>528868041 >>528868229
>>528866351
You're right. I did some math and it doesn't even come close. Opening base set forever is the strategy if they allow it.
Anonymous No.528866850
>>528866727
like 3 pulls worth of ruppees, a sleeve and yeah thats probably everything.
Anonymous No.528866852
>>528866727
Hate for Driezehn
Anonymous No.528866859
>>528866713
aggro dragon is much better even if its a gamble
Anonymous No.528866876
>>528866192
*checks hand and board*
*no makan+cemetery*
"guess i'll die" and pass the turn
Anonymous No.528866935
What are the fucking chances that both of my accounts opened premium ralmia from the 4 daily park keys?
Anonymous No.528866937
Good thing I can't see my own winrate otherwise I would have quit out of depression.
Anonymous No.528866947
>>528866278
This is also true. It's ludicrous how many people think they could pass N3 because they watch a lot of anime and know a bunch of basic words or phrases, when in reality they've never actually studied basic grammar. Those very same people are also extremely opinionated when it comes to what books and methods are good for learning Japanese.

Kinda pic-related. Thinking he can give people advice and answer questions when he doesn't know the absolute basics.
Anonymous No.528866957 >>528867172
>>528866679
Portal is a pretty 50/50 match up once you get the hang of it, it basically depends on whether they use Alouette on turn 5 or not.
Anonymous No.528866972
>>528865568
i didnt need to know this, what a bummer
Anonymous No.528866991
>>528865178
Saving evolves when playing forest is dumb
Anonymous No.528867003 >>528867159 >>528867168
>realise only after I played out my turn that I missed lethal and gave the enemy a free opportunity to kill me
>he didn't have lethal
>I win anyway despite being retarded and letting him live an extra turn for free
tfw
Anonymous No.528867038
triple kuon is nasty
Anonymous No.528867040 >>528868112
>>528866192
Sword illustrates the stupidity of this game.
>flood with ward
>get wiped
>flood with ward
>get wiped
>flood with ward
For almost no pp cost. If you can't respond every single turn and keep somewhat a board or a follow alive while doing so, you're dead.
Anonymous No.528867046
>>528866713
Just play face dragon man, you can't even outpace Portal with ramp in midgame and lategame you get folded by Rune.
Anonymous No.528867080 >>528867170 >>528867181 >>528867186 >>528867196 >>528867239 >>528867290 >>528867345 >>528867672 >>528867768 >>528867896 >>528868340 >>528868960
wtf, with this card
did those 4 * 3/2 really needed to have rush???
is basically cerberus in a gold card, with taunts
Anonymous No.528867093
>>528865178
I noticed all the ultra high ranked jp players are always burning evos by like turn 7
Anonymous No.528867103
>>528866590
>Rune ability to trade is incredibly poor
>Dykes to clear board into another dykes to clear board
>Everything is spellboosted to shit now
>Either plays Kuon and smashes face after clearing your board again, or to save them for a little later, a Will.
They trade like a motherfucker, their only weakness is very early they don't have the best early game. Aggro is good against them, but the dykes stop that, and if they have that healing spell you're fucked.
Anonymous No.528867153
>>528866713
Super evolution fucks ramp dragon because they just lock important shit behind it so even if you ramp super hard you cant benefit from it until it's designated super evolve time.
Anonymous No.528867159 >>528867283
>>528867003
Good thing it wasn't against Portal, I am correct? If you misplay you're pretty much done.
Anonymous No.528867168
>>528867003
Had this happen to me when I forgot that super evo deals 1 dmg to face
Anonymous No.528867170
>>528867080
This card basically reads "If your enemy doesn't have a board wipe or targeted removal in hand, win the game".
Anonymous No.528867172
>>528866957
I've never not seen a portal have Alouette on T5. That deck never fucking bricks.
Anonymous No.528867174 >>528867385
My negro, please just read and don't face me
I don't even feel good about this
Anonymous No.528867181
>>528867080
>8pp
>doesn't instantly kill you
Into the trash bin
Anonymous No.528867186
>>528867080
the worst, is that cerberus needs super evo to summon the 2 extra 2/1
Anonymous No.528867196
>>528867080
Eachtar if he was honest.
Anonymous No.528867239
>>528867080
swordfags will continue to downplay
Anonymous No.528867264 >>528867384
My rune deck has 3x grea 2 kuon 2 dshift 1 coc

Which is better, another kuon or another dshift?
Anonymous No.528867283
>>528867159
It was against portal, actually, while I was playing as midrange abyss. He had a surprisingly puppet-heavy deck given that he was also kinda trying to build artifacts as a side gig.
Anonymous No.528867290
>>528867080
>not tied to evo
every single tied
Anonymous No.528867294
>>528865587
7 mana kuon doesn't out garyu
Anonymous No.528867326
>>528866713
Garyu has worse clear and damage than orchis and is a side grade to kuon who also advances your gameplay by a lot while costing 1 less...
Anonymous No.528867331 >>528867372 >>528867392 >>528868670
>Nerf Oracle
>Nerf Roach
>But buff Wind Blast
This is bullshit.
Anonymous No.528867345 >>528867716
>>528867080
reaper is a massive brick but for shit like this it's necessary since good luck clearing all that shit as abyss
Anonymous No.528867372
>>528867331
dont forget nerfed soul conversion
Anonymous No.528867384 >>528867450
>>528867264
You need Kuon to stabalize, meanwhile you have half of the game to draw your first dshift.
Anonymous No.528867385
>>528867174
Dumb dragon player, probably a shadow player playing Dragon. You can safely trade with Abyss's board without a care in the world. No need to rush as hard as against other crafts.
Anonymous No.528867392 >>528867512 >>528868670
>>528867331
Pet class.
Also don't forget:
>nerf soul conversion
>delete all blood mechanics from the game other than retarded self-damage without payoff
Anonymous No.528867402 >>528867463 >>528867470 >>528867472 >>528867495
is there really no draft mode?
literally best aspect of og SV and they axe it
Anonymous No.528867450
>>528867384
Depending the matchup you want a dshift in your hand by turn 2-3 assuming you aren't getting fucking by aggressive decks then you just go next
Anonymous No.528867454 >>528867613
explain how you shitters are losing early to rune, the deck only works after 6 with board clears, and at that point you should have them low enough to end with an evolved storm follower or something. do you literally trade everything rune drops like retards?
Anonymous No.528867457
I win way more often with portal than I do with rune. Rune is you either brutalize them or hard brick. I don't think portal is capable of bricking
Anonymous No.528867463 >>528867547 >>528867585 >>528867612
>>528867402
It's coming with the first expansion in a few weeks. There probably weren't enough cards in the base set for it to be fun.
Anonymous No.528867470 >>528867547
>>528867402
They'll release it next year.
Anonymous No.528867472 >>528867547
>>528867402
wait until august when the third set drops
Anonymous No.528867490 >>528867657 >>528868004
Cute dragon leader when?
Anonymous No.528867495 >>528867547
>>528867402
will be in the game later when there's more cards
speaking of they should've just made the first set twice as big instead of having a shadowverse 2 actually be shadowverse classic
Anonymous No.528867512 >>528867589
>>528867392
That's a good thing. Blood and Shadow are living tumors, everyone know even the greed company with their slop cash and out scam second game.
Anonymous No.528867519 >>528867597 >>528867637 >>528867679 >>528867747 >>528867754 >>528867939 >>528868504 >>528868703 >>528870326
what's the matter, shitcraft? i'm still not dead after 3 alberts and you're out of cards after wasting all of your disgusting wardspam?

i know you need the chests too so you can't concede, guess you're going to have to wait until the last second before i end your misery you stupid WHORE!
Anonymous No.528867547
>>528867472
>>528867470
>>528867463
>>528867495
got it, will give the game a try then
Anonymous No.528867568 >>528867781
I think anon took a picture of me just now...
Anonymous No.528867585
>>528867463
that's why I'm saving all my gold, I'll go all in on draft
Anonymous No.528867589
>>528867512
>t. runetumor
Anonymous No.528867597 >>528867830
>>528867519
>abyss fag getting uppity since it's very rare for him to win
SAD!
Anonymous No.528867612
>>528867463
First expansion is that fast? I already paypigged for the base cards
Anonymous No.528867613
>>528867454
>play follower
>gets wind blasted, homeworked, a&g'd, taken out back and shot in the head
Anonymous No.528867637 >>528867707
>>528867519
i hope you spammed the muda emote
Anonymous No.528867648 >>528867673 >>528868252
There was literally no good reason to combine shadow and blood into one class.
Anonymous No.528867657
>>528867490
It will take a long time for Rola
Anonymous No.528867672
>>528867080
if im at the point of playing this, ive probably lost
Anonymous No.528867673 >>528867736
>>528867648
KMR just hated bloodcraft and this was his last fuck you before retiring.
Anonymous No.528867679 >>528867830
>>528867519
abysskek finally getting his one win for the day after several hours of matches, colorized
Anonymous No.528867707
>>528867637
i spaced 6 of them out over the course of 2 rounds
Anonymous No.528867716 >>528867770 >>528867846
>>528867345
Your medusa and cerb bro???
Reaper deathscythe is still a massive brick, removed all of them from my abyss deck
Anonymous No.528867726 >>528867763
Wow fully animated eudie is kinda...
Anonymous No.528867736 >>528867859
>>528867673
I thought KMR petcraft is Blood?
Anonymous No.528867747
>>528867519
should rage of serpents for the finish
Anonymous No.528867754
>>528867519
estrogenized post
Anonymous No.528867763 >>528868273
>>528867726
Anonymous No.528867768
>>528867080
yes, downplaying swordfaggots have the most busted free do everything cards while they cry about a super evo destroy 2 lmao
Anonymous No.528867770 >>528868106
>>528867716
Medusa only clears 3 wards, leaving behind the slut and another ward.
Anonymous No.528867781
>>528867568
that's a compliment!
Anonymous No.528867830 >>528868002
>>528867597
>>528867679
niggers coping:
Anonymous No.528867831 >>528868034 >>528868148
Forest is fucking trash, I'm losing to emerald ranks in Park while I'm a Diamond rank in A
Anonymous No.528867846 >>528868106
>>528867716
>medusa
gets cockblocked by all the ward in the way
>cerb
without super evo don't even try and even with super evo you HAVE TO take two 2/1 (if it's even your first cerb) or else gamble on whether you can cleear
Anonymous No.528867859 >>528868001
>>528867736
The petcraft was always rune.
Anonymous No.528867868 >>528867947 >>528867962
Will the new expansion have 3 urs for each class again but that sounds absurd to keep up f2p unless you’re constantly lucky
Anonymous No.528867896 >>528868049 >>528868132
>>528867080
>entirely wiped by super evo apollo
Anonymous No.528867939 >>528868129
>>528867519
The thing I can appreciate here is you get into the character. Maybe that Leader can move away from the former craft's identity, which would be a great thing.
SHADOW AND BLOOD ARE DEAD, Abyss is a different thing. Beating Sword, Portal and Rune with that Leader and that attitude I can respect.
Anonymous No.528867945
>>528866192
RUNESISTERS GET DOWN
AAAIIIEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous No.528867947
>>528867868
2 per expansion.
Anonymous No.528867962
>>528867868
eehhhh just get lucky?
Anonymous No.528868001
>>528867859
rune is their "MTG pro" designers petcraft
Anonymous No.528868002 >>528868063 >>528868271
>>528867830
Please don't be so rude for the sake of the rest of us thank you
Anonymous No.528868004
>>528867490
next and next next expansion
Anonymous No.528868005 >>528868202 >>528868827
>I want the shota abyss leader because anything is better than a literal animal
>I think spending money on gacha is cringe
What do?
Anonymous No.528868034
>>528867831
playing forest is a constant uphill battle, there's fuckall you can do without lily and may
Anonymous No.528868041
>>528866835
Yup, yup seems braindead obvious.
ESPECIALLY when we already have some leggos at x3.

It just seems clear to keep rolling for the base set and make everything x3 and then we will finally get what we wanted which was the ability to break down all cards into vials regardless of classes.
Anonymous No.528868049
>>528867896
>s-super evo
swordbrain thinks evos are free since he's used to never needing to use them
Anonymous No.528868063
>>528868002
Who? Go back to your old game.
Anonymous No.528868075 >>528868173
wtf why
Anonymous No.528868089
yeah, im just gonna start playing haven now. Im sick of these portal mirrors and this deck
Anonymous No.528868106 >>528868207 >>528868230
>>528867770
>>528867846
usually i have a cemetery on the field so i can get at amalia.
Anonymous No.528868112
>>528867040
Reminds me of that one swordfag who was complaining yesterday because rune and other decks had "too much removal" for his taste, nigga you setup a board from 1 card in hand every single turn why aren't other decks allowed to break it
Anonymous No.528868124
Forest is the petcraft cause elf maidens should be the owned property (pets) of human men
Anonymous No.528868129
>>528867939
thanks for your input, i genuinely appreciate it
Anonymous No.528868132
>>528867896
>implying they didn't super evo the bitch too
Anonymous No.528868148
>>528867831
You are bad at the game, simple as
Anonymous No.528868173
>>528868075
You're just a good player, Anon.
Anonymous No.528868178
>>528864380
>No craft is honest in this game.
You say that again to my Haven face
Anonymous No.528868202 >>528868294 >>528868324
>>528868005
it is acceptable to spend up to the price of a regular game. but also why not luna
Anonymous No.528868207 >>528868321 >>528868398
>>528868106
Cemetery only clears one more ward, anon.
Anonymous No.528868229 >>528868469 >>528868523
>>528866835
If we ipen base set forever then we miss out on the cooler gacha leaders like filene…
Anonymous No.528868230 >>528868398
>>528868106
when the fuck do you have time to put it down and not immediately use it to stay alive from the constant on curve board vomit?
Anonymous No.528868252
>>528867648
esl dragoncuck is vindicated
Anonymous No.528868271
>>528868002
erm no thanks

i'm only nice to people who deserve it
Anonymous No.528868273
>>528867763
Lobby gonna be poppin' once we get the Eudie visage.
Anonymous No.528868294 >>528869020 >>528872783
>>528868202
>but also why not luna
>$20 for just a leader with nothing else
It's a much worse deal than the battle pass and so feels even more cringe.
If I was just lucky, I'd get Cerb f2p and that'd be it, but right now I'm stuck playing as a stupid animal and that sucks.
Anonymous No.528868321 >>528868834
>>528868207
cerb +2/0
Anonymous No.528868324 >>528872783
>>528868202
>but also why not luna
Why would I buy a $20 scam asset flip when the BP partially refunds itself on top of giving a shit load of other gibs? Are you stupid?
Anonymous No.528868340 >>528868910
>>528867080
real surprised to see that anyone agreed with this, obviously cerb is a million times better for burning and healing
what is wrong with you guys
Anonymous No.528868398 >>528868565 >>528868834
>>528868207
Clearing out that one ward gives medusa and cerberus the reach to take out amalia…

>>528868230
Anywhere between turns 3-7? Do you run aragavy? He resets all board vomit
Anonymous No.528868469
>>528868229
Anonymous No.528868502 >>528868651 >>528868663
pain
Anonymous No.528868504
>>528867519
bonemanced...
but more like why is he playing rusty
Anonymous No.528868523
>>528868229
Eh, if there is a leader you want, you can crack that set.
If Liza was in 2nd set, I would open that, but base set otherwise.
Anonymous No.528868565
>>528868398
3 copies of aragavy and apollo aren't enough to clear all the shit they put down and even if they do they just board vomit the next turn again, when exactly is there 3 pp worth of spare tempo in a single turn to fit anywhere in there?
Anonymous No.528868651
>>528868502
why did they remove the lose text when it would do jackshit
Anonymous No.528868663
>>528868502
abloobloobloo poor little Timmy cant win with his t1 netdeck :'(
Anonymous No.528868668
Got every chest so far and every green one was 50 vials. Definitely worth the effort!
Anonymous No.528868670 >>528868834
>>528867331
>>528867392
Nerfed Razory Claw. Turn it into 2 cost and a gold card so not all can run it.
Anonymous No.528868681 >>528868837 >>528872973
>97% positive in 1040 reviews
See, it's not so hard to get good reviews from the getgo.
Still doubt this game will remain popular in the west.
Anonymous No.528868684 >>528868845
>>528865641
Throughout human history until literally less than 100 years ago this was perfectly normal.
Anonymous No.528868703
>>528867519
Couldn't have been me, I would've packed your ass up by turn 7 with the Kagemitsu respawn.
Anonymous No.528868728
>playing abyss mirror
>the other player is a retard who runs bats
>he loses solely because his cerb reanimates two useless bats
Pottery.
Anonymous No.528868813 >>528869205 >>528869519
face is the place bros...
Anonymous No.528868827 >>528868983
>>528868005
First off Diawl is cool, second I think it's weird to devote hours and hours of your time to a game and then act uppity about spending money on it.
Anonymous No.528868834 >>528869049
>>528868398
There are 4 wards, anon...
Medusa clears 3, crypt kills one more, Amalia remains.
>>528868321
We were talking about Medusa.
>>528868670
Razory Claw was always a 2 cost and the new Razory Claw is sometimes better in 1% of games because it deals damage to the enemy before it does damage to you.
Anonymous No.528868837 >>528868903 >>528869078 >>528869165
>>528868681
>P2w in non-pvp games being generally regarded as acceptable
Who could have thought
Anonymous No.528868845
>>528868684
damn what a coward just say yes like everyone else
Anonymous No.528868903
>>528868837
thats always how card games have been though, what makes this different
Anonymous No.528868910 >>528869040
>>528868340
bro, is a legendary that you need to super evo and even with that the minions are worse the ward is easy better than 2 heal and if you think 6 face dmg is worth being a legendary and having to super evo it then shark is broken as shit.
just as a plain card that shit is better than a plain cerberus
Anonymous No.528868960
>>528867080
It's basically just meant to stall one more turn for an Albert finish
Anonymous No.528868983 >>528869221
>>528868827
>First off Diawl is cool,
>a retarded animal that can't talk and has indistinguishable emotes
>cool
Anonymous No.528869020 >>528869161 >>528870503
>>528868294
Why would anyone play Luna or Urias? It's not shadow or bloodcraft. They shouldn't even have added the old shadow/blood leaders.
Anonymous No.528869040 >>528869107
>>528868910
shark doesnt clear the board
if orchis trades one evolve puppet she only does 5 face
kuon does 5 face
garyu does 5 face
cerb does that and heals on top of it
ward is never better than healing
Anonymous No.528869049 >>528869163
>>528868834
I’m gonna be honest I thought amalia always summoned three knights because the ones I’ve seen always overflowed the 4th knight because they had some 2/2 knight shitter leftover on the board from coachman or kage
I see what you mean now. Amalia on an empty board is not possible for medusa
Anonymous No.528869078
>>528868837
what

Uma musume is a giga sweaty pvp fest what are you even talking about
Anonymous No.528869107 >>528869163
>>528869040
4 wards is better than 2 healing
i will not respond to you anymore swordnigger
Anonymous No.528869150
swordchads rise up
Anonymous No.528869161 >>528869223
>>528869020
I'd buy bampi if she was 2500 rupies, proportional from the 500 rupies of SV1.
Anonymous No.528869163
>>528869049
but also if you let them drop her on an empty board you deserve to lose
if anything she isnt good enough, she really is just a stall tool for albert and a vaue tool for once you run out of evos
>>528869107
its not better than 6 healing because guess how much burn amalia does?
Anonymous No.528869165
>>528868837
You do race against other players' umas though. The runs to train your uma are single player, but the main events are all pvp, and without paying a lot, you'll get your ass handed to you.

New umas, new support cards, levelling all of them up to the max, which requires pulling the same support card 5 times, etc. And even then, RNG will fuck you a lot of times.
It's way worse than Shadowverse overall.
Anonymous No.528869205 >>528869337
>>528868813
Can I have a match with you? I have a board hate deck but the sword players I face just concede after the first apollo
Anonymous No.528869220 >>528869292
>>528864857
I want an amulet or a crest that pings the opponent for 1 HP for every card that enters their fucking hand.
Anonymous No.528869221 >>528869923
>>528868983
Yes, it's cool to play as the monster or weirdo. Not everyone needs to be a douchebag or cute girl spouting one-liners.
Anonymous No.528869223 >>528870446
>>528869161
For what? There's no craft for her. It would go into the void.
Anonymous No.528869281 >>528869430
So you automatically lose if you don't draw roach?
Anonymous No.528869285
Non-consensual sex with Dreizehn.
Anonymous No.528869292
>>528869220
this but every follower they put on the field
Anonymous No.528869329
>>528865005
It should do 4 damage if their spellboost is above some target X value. There, I fixed it.
Anonymous No.528869337 >>528869420 >>528870000
>>528869205
sure meet me in the lobby at the shop. don't expect much though, pretty sure it was mostly luck!
Anonymous No.528869341
Honestly is there any way expansion will fix this game, or should I go back to SV1 take two and custom games?
Anonymous No.528869367 >>528869389 >>528869817
So why is nemesis allowed to have this card?
Anonymous No.528869389
>>528869367
it needs it
Anonymous No.528869408 >>528869514 >>528870182
>Shadow merged with Blood and the leaders are competing for space
>Shadowverse has become more waifu oriented over time
>Large waiting list of legacy leaders people want
>Cygames is larger and has a ton of properties to pull from
My leader is not fucking returning.
Anonymous No.528869418 >>528869479 >>528869492 >>528869594 >>528869769 >>528869943
Anyone got some tips for playing rune? I've been trying to climb with this but lost my last 5 matches in a row to Portal/Sword/Face Dragon...
Anonymous No.528869420
>>528869337
Alright see you
Anonymous No.528869430
>>528869281
Unless they let your fairies hit face over turns for no fucking reason then yeah
Anonymous No.528869438
how am i supposed to grind my 5 chests and reroll in uma musume at the same time
Anonymous No.528869479
>>528869418
oh no... you're retarded... im so sorry
Anonymous No.528869492
>>528869418
>only 2 sagelight
>only 2 demonic call
Anonymous No.528869513 >>528869583 >>528869591
another free pack, another one of those
i'm so tired of this faggot, i have 5 copies and he will never get nerfed anyway since he's so fucking trash, guess i might as well dust him now
Anonymous No.528869514
>>528869408
You can get his emblem at least…
Anonymous No.528869519
>>528868813
la ptm
Anonymous No.528869546
>abyss dude just suicides
Anonymous No.528869549 >>528869604 >>528869686 >>528870089
forest vs sword is unfavored for sword, debate me
Anonymous No.528869583 >>528869712
>>528869513
They only give you dust back for up to 3 copies.
Anonymous No.528869591 >>528869712
>>528869513
The english site missed it but the Japanese site confirmed a maximum of three copies getting refunded, which just makes sense ultimately.
Anonymous No.528869594 >>528869704
>>528869418
haters will say rune is braindead easy to use, but it's the second hardest deck to play behind roach decks
Anonymous No.528869604 >>528869745 >>528869875
>>528869549
Drop Amalia and watch Lovesign concede
Anonymous No.528869661 >>528869723
>>528865717
>Despite what people will tell you here most of the time they aren't drawing into grea
Yeah, it's a shame that rune doesn't have room for any draw spells to help with that...
Anonymous No.528869686 >>528869875
>>528869549
It's quite shrimple ackshually
>forest draws glade and sword doesn't draw amalia
rip swordfag
>forest doesn't draw glade and sword draws amalia
rip forestfag
Anonymous No.528869704
>>528869594
Anonymous No.528869712 >>528869756 >>528870070
>>528869591
>>528869583
wait so there's no point keeping more than 3?
will they even refund the first 3 copies since you can't dismantle them anyway?
Anonymous No.528869723 >>528870450
>>528869661
It's funny cuz I just played rune for the first time today and even spamming draws I rarely have it at curve.

Maybe I'm just cursed?
Anonymous No.528869745
>>528869604
Amalia is easy to deal with. Amelia and Lum Mage even. Rush fairies are insane
Anonymous No.528869753
>>528865740
Emergency nerfs are required. They didn't remotely playtest this shit.
Anonymous No.528869756
>>528869712
They send vial to your inbox.
Anonymous No.528869757 >>528869819 >>528869849 >>528869871 >>528869927
Sword is so ass I hate this deck
Anonymous No.528869769
>>528869418
You pray you draw heals and have lesbian couple on T5.
Rune doesn't play for the first 4 turns and Sword/Face Dragon will kill you during it. No idea why you struggle with Portal though, they usually only starts ramping up from T5 onward and Rune has William as boardclear and Kuon for pressure.
Anonymous No.528869817
>>528869367
It has all these tools and still looses to midrange sword and rune
Anonymous No.528869819
>>528869757
Sword is really good
Anonymous No.528869849
>>528869757
Albert on turn 9 and win, wow
Anonymous No.528869871
>>528869757
I wish this piece of shit game would give me amelias and alberts so I could play it
Anonymous No.528869875
>>528869686
>>528869604
she only generates 4 wards, they can easily clear it
Anonymous No.528869910
wait is there not a single protection effect in the game? like cant be destroyed or cant take damage
i guess they wanted to use the keywords instead
Anonymous No.528869923 >>528870223
>>528869221
The abyss leader looks like he was commissioned on fiverr along with his voicelines.
Anonymous No.528869927
>>528869757
I want to put triplets in Marie's womb
Anonymous No.528869943
>>528869418
Watching this might help it even has auto-translated dub. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fwxFnKFWWE
I don't have the cards for it yet but from starting ranked late and playing against beginner Rune players yesterday I noticed they are definitely doing a lot of the fundamental stuff wrong. Like they play one Blaze Destroyer as soon as they can instead of saving them for a big, hard to answer board. The hardest part about this archetype has probably always been the mulligan though.
Anonymous No.528869986 >>528870102 >>528870169 >>528870315 >>528870460
>>528866109
I'm pretty sure that they're going to deviate from how shadowverse 1 handled things, and completely remove old sets from the shop once they rotate out. It's the only explanation that I can think of for why leader exchange tickets have expiration dates. This jewish move would accomplish two things:

>1: Prevent players from permanently investing rupees into old sets as a vial farm and ensuring that our vial income is always cucked by the dumb "you can only vial copies 4+" rule in perptuity.
>2: Introduce FOMO for chasing gacha leaders. No longer will F2Ps be able to patiently spend their time rolling on old sets or dutifully funneling anniversary awards into the old set that contains their favorite leader. Now they'll need to open their wallet and whale on a set while it's in rotation to get the leaders.
Anonymous No.528870000 >>528870668
>>528869337
Are you being bricked off your 2 drops or are you intentionally playing around a clear?
Anonymous No.528870070 >>528870393
>>528869712
You get the full vial cost of the copies if the card is nerfed, up to 3. They don't take the nerfed card away.
The systems are designed that the optimal way to spend resources if your only concern is to build decks efficiently is to simply spend everything right away and focus on completing sets even as new sets come out because on average you're more likely to pull 3 legendaries you can vial to craft a new set legend than to pull a single copy of the new set legend, then spend towards strong decks in hopes of refunds.
Anonymous No.528870089 >>528870337
>>528869549
If sword never conserve their evo points and actually play for tempo then forest almost always loses.
Anonymous No.528870094
>sword mirror matches
>we gesture each other commending our plays and thanking each other
This shit has never happened to me when I fight or play other crafts.
Anonymous No.528870102 >>528870274
>>528869986
if you need over 175 days to decide between a leader/card style/visage that's on you
Anonymous No.528870169
>>528869986
I'm pretty sure it's only there to curb account selling because no one in regular circumstances would need 180 days to pick something.
Anonymous No.528870182
>>528869408
>tfw when can't do it right
Anonymous No.528870223
>>528869923
how many poilnts do you need to get into masters,
Anonymous No.528870252 >>528871653 >>528875614
You don’t get it how hard it is to decide between being fisted by Cerberus in the park or playing as her as the leader
Anonymous No.528870254 >>528870385
>won 3 of my last 15 games as portal
>running 3 orchis
It's dogshit, other classes aren't tied to evos and trade with better value or straight up win by turn 8
Anonymous No.528870274 >>528870463 >>528870865
>>528870102
You're missing the point. The point isn't
>Oh no, which cosmetic will I pick? I can't decide over the course of months.
The point is that the presence of the expiration timer implies that they are going to remove the entire store page where you can redeem them, along with the rest of the set. Torpedoing chances for newfags to get old leaders, dramatically undermining F2P's ability to get desired leaders over time, and killing off the permanent vial farm strategy.
Anonymous No.528870284 >>528870384 >>528870515 >>528870647
How does this happen two days in a row? Is it actually weighted to be on the last few chests of the day or something? I'm going to be so mad at this """event""" if it happens again tomorrow.
Anonymous No.528870315 >>528870791
>>528869986
that would annoy as then we'd lose access to leaders
Anonymous No.528870326
>>528867519
>cocky, flustered shota decides to brutally punish swordbitch
kino
Anonymous No.528870337
>>528870089
Are we back to downplaying forest again?
Anonymous No.528870384
>>528870284
it's shitty rng, but the last chest is always guaranteed
Anonymous No.528870385 >>528870623
>>528870254
What. Portal is one of the least evo fucked and best at trades in the game.
Anonymous No.528870393 >>528870461 >>528870517
>>528870070
IMO, it's better to keep at least 3 legos worth of vial to create nerfed cards when announced and wait for refund. this way, you get free cards and any copies you pull later will also be a plus to your vial stash.
Anonymous No.528870446
>>528869223
I am already playing Abyss, and she'd be far better than that retarded animal leader it gets by default.
Anonymous No.528870450 >>528870702
>>528869723
You're just an inexperienced newfag. Any deck can potentially just brick and let a highrolling sword board run over them. But Rune's immense card draw statistically makes them FAR more capable of drawing their answers compared to everyone else. You don't even necessarily need the lesbians for that matchup either. William can nuke sword's board too.
Anonymous No.528870460 >>528870791
>>528869986
That would cannibalize the game. New people couldn’t get old cards outside crafting for decks they want to play and F2Ps can’t keep up with the meta shift and leave. That would just leave the whales fighting each other and they’ll get bored from longer queues and skill disparity.
Anonymous No.528870461 >>528870641
>>528870393
Will they be announcing card changes ahead of the patch so people can craft them?
Anonymous No.528870463 >>528870791
>>528870274
feel like that's being overly paranoid but I guess it's not entirely impossible
Anonymous No.528870485
>won 3 of my last 15 games as rune
>running 3 grea 3 kuon 3 dshift
It's dogshit, other classes aren't tied to evos and trade with better value or straight up win by turn 8
Anonymous No.528870494 >>528870752
AbyssGOD is so fucking funny
Anonymous No.528870503 >>528871140 >>528871348
>>528869020
I use her to make broke boys seethe, seems to be working.
Anonymous No.528870515
>>528870284
I had this happen too, total cancer
Anonymous No.528870517 >>528870635
>>528870393
theres no way this works, right? basicaly any nerfed leggo everyone just gets for free?
Anonymous No.528870623 >>528871106
>>528870385
yeah play orchis, sylvia, the gold card without evo
Anonymous No.528870635
>>528870517
Or they nerf lower rarity cards to get around broken leggo as scapegoats
Anonymous No.528870641
>>528870461
who knows?
but they announced it a day before maint on sv1
Anonymous No.528870647 >>528870948
>>528870284
>How does this happen two days in a row?
Isn't this the first day of the event?
Anonymous No.528870668 >>528871063
>>528870000
ah you wrote it here too. had no time to check the thread during matches!
pic related is what it should look like but as i said after the matches, i kept getting bricked and never drew any. that said i prbly would've not played much till turn 4 anyways because of your control deck.
Anonymous No.528870702
>>528870450
Yeah... I drew william... haha...
Anonymous No.528870715 >>528870935
Just hit AA3 with honestcraft
Anonymous No.528870731
>NOOOOOOOOO how could they force me to play the game this is unacceptable!
Anonymous No.528870738
>draw a card
>nothing I need
>draw a card
>nothing I need
>meanwhile my opponent gets everything
>press leave by 6th turn
Anonymous No.528870752
>>528870494
Love to see it, that's how it should be. They can venture with other crafts but dragon they must submit.
Anonymous No.528870762 >>528870850 >>528870946 >>528870989 >>528871291
When is the hololive leaders collab?
Anonymous No.528870791 >>528871246
>>528870315
>>528870460
>>528870463
I hope that I'm wrong about this, but their changes have been downright malicious so far. I'm fully expecting this first set to vanish from the shop come rotation. Maybe community backlash at that point might get them to reverse course. But right now they don't seem to give the slightest fuck about being one of the most negatively reviewed games of all time.
Anonymous No.528870850 >>528870989
>>528870762
Not soon enough
Anonymous No.528870865 >>528871090
>>528870274
If that's the reason why don't regular Legends Rise tickets have an expiration date?
I think it's to force people to pick the leader instead of hording tickets for a class they don't play yet forever and then only picking the best leader they have and other options for the rest of their tickets.
Anonymous No.528870871
love esperanza's wao line
Anonymous No.528870883 >>528870919 >>528870925 >>528870949
THIS NIGGA BOUGHT LEVELS
Anonymous No.528870919
>>528870883
i have Nio and I didnt buy levels, you get BP points from the chest shit
Anonymous No.528870925
>>528870883
Retard.
Anonymous No.528870935
>>528870715
dumb bampy
Anonymous No.528870946
>>528870762
Hopefully never
Anonymous No.528870948 >>528871184
>>528870647
Bro... It started yesterday 30 hours ago. You had 18 hours to do the first day.
Anonymous No.528870949
>>528870883
if it was before yesterday's reset maybe, you can get 40 from today
Anonymous No.528870989
>>528870762
>>528870850
Hopefully never but they probably will. Meanwhile keep the transitioning going, I know you two will.
Anonymous No.528871019 >>528871212
Aria feels like a dead card in some matchups, does forest not have good legendaries?
Anonymous No.528871063 >>528871143
>>528870668
No amelia?
Anonymous No.528871065 >>528871345
Whoever said Aragavy priotizes damage by who is oldest on the field
thank you
Anonymous No.528871090 >>528871430
>>528870865
>If that's the reason why don't regular Legends Rise tickets have an expiration date?
For pack tickets, they can easily convert those into rupees if you're still holding old packs at the time that an old set is removed from the shop.
Anonymous No.528871106
>>528870623
Every fucking craft in the game has half a dozen effects tied to evo somehow. Orchis is potentially a board wipe and a ward with no evolution. Sylvia has two powerful effects played naked and she's flexible on your evolution slots. Alouette progresses your game plan if you play her naked on 5 off an opponent's dead tempo turn.

Meanwhile half of Haven's cards don't advance your game state at all without evolution and they're often competing with cards that have no evolution effect at all but need to do it for tempo. Or you're playing some shit like Forest that runs evolution plays but also has to evolve for damage regularly.

Rune and Abyss are probably the only crafts more free than Portal on evolution resources and Abyss is crazy ass.
Anonymous No.528871140
>>528870503
>c0
Anonymous No.528871143 >>528871249
>>528871063
i had here in there for a few days but never got any use out of here because everyone spams board removal. so there was never anything left to buff with barriers. i'd rather have more pressure form other cards than her now.
Anonymous No.528871161 >>528871294 >>528871461 >>528871928 >>528872019 >>528872157 >>528872348
How crazy would it be to craft this? I used to main Shadow back in SV1 and really want to play it again, but people keep saying that it's overall a waste of vials...
Anonymous No.528871174
>rune plays 3x lesbians 3x kuon
>I don't draw a single cerb
>lose
Anonymous No.528871184
>>528870948
Well, didn't miss the rupies galore, park reset must be different. I would for sure notice the ! notifications as I did today.
Anonymous No.528871212
>>528871019
Every forest legendary is "wait for more support" at best. It's just lucky that the rest of its line up is premium. Kind of the opposite of Shadow where every legend is fucking busted but the low rarities are dogshit.
Anonymous No.528871219 >>528871434
>new set come out
>bunch of new meta legend come out
>can't chest the system with reroll anymore
Anonymous No.528871246
>>528870791
Honestly the only egregious thing in the new system I've seen is the inability to vial everything.
Outside of that limitation it doesn't feel too bad as far as base freebies go.
If we could vial everything people could build their one or two decks each set without too much trouble.
Only other change I would recommend is perhaps revert back to old liquefy values for cards.
But if they truly go FOMO on set that will leave a bitter taste in my mouth.
Might just go back to playing AI in SV1 at that point.
Anonymous No.528871249
>>528871143
>here
>her
i'm truly a 5 IQ swordbab
Anonymous No.528871286 >>528871952
fuck
Anonymous No.528871291
>>528870762
Anonymous No.528871294
>>528871161
You need max legendaries before even attempting abyss right now, and even then it's still somewhat shitty into most opponents.
Anonymous No.528871303 >>528872132
When is the Nijisanji leaders collab?
Anonymous No.528871345 >>528871516
>>528871065
Wait what? Does the same apply to glade too?
Anonymous No.528871348 >>528871609
>>528870503
current abyss seems more shdow coded.
wonder what archetype would fit Urias.
Anonymous No.528871382 >>528871516 >>528871563 >>528871721 >>528874263
>dshifted twice in a row
Anonymous No.528871430 >>528871596
>>528871090
This shit would make optimal f2p hoarding strats even more complicated. You would skip some sets completely, not even opening your tickets and waiting for them to turn into rupies.
Anonymous No.528871434
>>528871219
I-it'll be fine... Surely they're withholding the gibs on purpose because they want to split it between sets... Haha, surely...
Anonymous No.528871461
>>528871161
looks fine
Anonymous No.528871516
>>528871345
Yes.
For example >>528871382 Aragavy will deal 6 to Kuon and 1 to Noble Shikigami.
Anonymous No.528871517 >>528871695
How long will it take to get 350 packs for a new set for a leader
Anonymous No.528871563
>>528871382
should've killed earlier hoho
Anonymous No.528871596
>>528871430
We don't know what the pity conversion rate would be. It doesn't need to be 500 per pack. It could be 50. I wouldn't put it past them.
Anonymous No.528871609 >>528871757
>>528871348
Blood got merged down because it was always a fake craft. They'll just print enough self damage for value and drain cards on theme and make the original blood mechanics card specific on a few things that're tuned carefully around them so that they never have to make that shit evergreen again.
Anonymous No.528871653
>>528870252
Fisted by? I thought the visage makes you look like the leader you chose.
Anonymous No.528871657 >>528871715 >>528871891 >>528871948 >>528872026
Is there any way to destroy your own two puppets that Orchis puts on a field?
Like
>Put Orchis
>SE
>Attack leader with puppets
>Destroy them somehow
>Put another set of puppets
Anonymous No.528871695
>>528871517
Very slow.
Your vial resources come from dailies and park but opening packs is gutted.
Anonymous No.528871715
>>528871657
You can do it on PC by selecting them and pressing the Del button on your keyboard.
Anonymous No.528871721
>>528871382
you rike?
Anonymous No.528871757 >>528871910
>>528871609
half of the crafts are fake
portal literally has no mechanic now btw
Anonymous No.528871824 >>528872019
>cant even get my 5 wins with abyss...
Anonymous No.528871887 >>528871995 >>528872895 >>528873041
>sword cards on avarage are better then most other classes counterparts
>albert constantly forces you to stay >12 hp or have a big taunt in late game
>3 mana draw 2 cards
>5 mana create a board
>le balanced wolfman
You people are getting bellcurved, sword is strongest class atm and its not even funny
Anonymous No.528871891
>>528871657
No, there were cards used for this purpose in SV1.
Anonymous No.528871910 >>528872743
>>528871757
Their mechanic in WB is Fuse.
Anonymous No.528871928 >>528872116
>>528871161
Note that abyss plays nothing like SV1 shadow, It's funny but haven is closer to SV1 shadow now
Anonymous No.528871932 >>528873085
How is this for an Artifact list? I'm so fucking tired of playing gutted Puppets at 2x Orchis. I'm in Beginner and have no win condition because your deck has one (1) storm card and it's Orchis. Meanwhile even in Beginner 2 every enemy has all legendaries they need and they draw them on a perfect curve.

I do not have a single copy of Alouette, either. This costs like 6k vials because RNG is a bitch.
Anonymous No.528871948 >>528872775
>>528871657
Not yet.
Anonymous No.528871952
>>528871286
These lobby garbage drops are peak comedy
Anonymous No.528871995 >>528872919
>>528871887
c-cease! sword is weak, the weakest even!
Anonymous No.528871997 >>528872148 >>528872149 >>528872337 >>528872379 >>528872525 >>528872693 >>528873343 >>528874504
anyone else have a mental illness that makes them gravitate towards decks like haven, forest and abyss
and be completely uninterested in decks like portal or rune?
Anonymous No.528872019 >>528872143
>>528871824
You just need 11 legendaries, bro.
>>528871161
Mukan sucks. Especially if you're running juggler, since then Mukan is a dead reanimate.
Anonymous No.528872026
>>528871657
In the old game Portal had spells or a dog to eat their followers after they've done their thing to free up board space. No options here yet though. Wait for Lishenna in the 3rd set.
Anonymous No.528872087 >>528872269 >>528872362
seeing how people will respond to barriers on their turn is always so fun
Anonymous No.528872116 >>528872229
>>528871928
Abyss plays just like early Shadowcraft. The problem is simply that it's even worse than pre-Tempest Shadow.
Anonymous No.528872132
>>528871303
>kuzuha as abyss leader
Fuck no. He is okay and kinda literally me kind of guy. But I don't want him as leader. I hope they include Ririmu or Naraka but I doubt they going to put anyone that is not popular. Another candidate are Shiishii or Toko. Unfortunately Kuzuha is most likely unless they actually put more than 1 livers for each craft.
Anonymous No.528872143
>>528872019
>You just need 11 legendaries, bro.
i have them...
and still today i dropped from diamond to saphire
Anonymous No.528872148 >>528874390
>>528871997
I main Abyss.
Anonymous No.528872149
>>528871997
Playing portal and rune makes you feel like you did not win the game
Anonymous No.528872156
>Blood has bats and sexy vampires
>Shadow has cool skeleton and zombies
>Merging them both means we get less of both of them

Not like this..
Anonymous No.528872157 >>528872213
>>528871161
Abyss is secretly good, there’s just alot of traps that people fall for that makes their specific build trash.
Anonymous No.528872206 >>528872365 >>528872369
How come I could spend 10 turns to make a gundam and I don't even win instantly for the effort? Scam.
Anonymous No.528872213 >>528872348 >>528872570
>>528872157
please elaborate and show me the way
Anonymous No.528872229 >>528873049
>>528872116
I don't see it. It plays more like worse version of blood
Anonymous No.528872239 >>528872445 >>528872568 >>528872690
now that the dust has settled, post hauls, whales need not respond
Anonymous No.528872269
>>528872087
The barrier bitch makes me seethe so bad, god I hate her.
Anonymous No.528872337
>>528871997
I just let my previous stats guide my choices on what to craft. Like if 7 years of OG Portalcraft weren't enough for me to bother with more than 500 matches it's probably not a good idea to waste vials on it thinking this time it will be different.
Anonymous No.528872348 >>528872460 >>528872465 >>528872480
>>528871161
>>528872213
You ignore the enemy and go face
Anonymous No.528872362
>>528872087
amelia is shut down by one divine thunder
Anonymous No.528872365
>>528872206
i miss magna zero…
Anonymous No.528872369
>>528872206
no deck should be able to insta win when you get to turn 10 cuz that would be imbal- oh wait runefags already win on turn 10 LMAOOO HAHAH FUCK THAT DECK
Anonymous No.528872379
>>528871997
Why would it be an illness? It's just a matter of preference, whether it's because of playstyle or because you prefer off-meta decks.
Anonymous No.528872402 >>528872469
This is what checkmate looks like.
Anonymous No.528872431
what if we renamed the game to orchis & anneverse
Anonymous No.528872439
>guild is at 6k/10k
ok we're prob making it to S easily. go guild yippie
Anonymous No.528872445 >>528872568
>>528872239
I crafted most of the Abyss leggos because I only got 3x Cerb 1x Medusa.
Mostly f2p, only bought the $2 starter deal.
Anonymous No.528872460 >>528872571 >>528872696 >>528872908
>>528872348
I'M ASKING ABOUT THE COMMON TRAPS PEOPLE FALL INTO AND HOW TO OPTIMIZE ABYSS DECKS TO WIN IN THIS META
Anonymous No.528872465 >>528872908
>>528872348
>bp 16
you are in topaz
Anonymous No.528872469
>>528872402
kageshitsu...
Anonymous No.528872480 >>528872908
>>528872348
Wow impressive winstreak! from 4 days ago retard.
Anonymous No.528872525
>>528871997
Are you saying my extremely clingy wife who rank 2nd (or third) in girl who is too painful to be your gf in the whole company is mentally ill? That is preposterous!
Anonymous No.528872557
Yeah very cool I fucking love tying chests to victories, this is not at all frustrating.
Anonymous No.528872568
>>528872445
>>528872239
Fuck, I forgot my fucking image.
Anonymous No.528872570 >>528872863
>>528872213
Here’s a 25 win streak list. One thing you’ll notice is that there’s no bats, bats mess up your Cerberus play so that’s one big mistake a lot of people make is that they play bats. Theres other stuff I can’t think of off the top of my head but if you like abyss then don’t let people turn you off from playing it.
Anonymous No.528872571
>>528872460
1) put in the heavy hitters and damage to face that you can't evade cards
2) play with face is the place mindset
3) either kys or opponent dies
Anonymous No.528872620 >>528872705
There's so little meaningful decision-making involved that I feel like a toddler could code a bot that could pilot a deck to diamond group
Anonymous No.528872690
>>528872239
i just play haven rn
would probably sswitch to being a rune nigger if i could get a second kuon
Anonymous No.528872693
>>528871997
Yeah, I do. I thought I'd try and be sensible by going with Sword but found their theme so boring that I slowly grinded the resources to build my Abyss deck despite barely pulling any of their cards. Totally worth it, I lose a lot more but I'm having a lot more fun. Tried making a Haven deck too but I think I'll wait for next set as they feel like they're missing something still.
Anonymous No.528872696 >>528873651
>>528872460
I used this deck to climb from Topaz to Sapphire, still have a positive winrate with it even in Sapphire, might reach Diamond soon. (I have very little free time to play, unfortunately)
This version of the deck is tuned against swordbabs, if you meet a lot of Portal, replace Apollo with Darkseal.
Because this is a midrange deck, in every fight, you need to figure out who's the beatdown. If you are the beatdown, you have to play aggressively and push face damage as quickly as possible. If the enemy is the beatdown, you have to play defensively and outlast them. It takes time and experience to pilot this deck well, I initially dropped to Topaz while learning how to pilot it before climbing back to Sapphire.
Anonymous No.528872703 >>528872886
>bats are bricks
>won’t be able to run Bampy with the best abyss legendary
Bros…
Anonymous No.528872705
>>528872620
Give it a dragon deck and play anything that light up and go face
Anonymous No.528872708
Whats the cheapest non forest/portal deck that I can use to get wins decently?
Anonymous No.528872743
>>528871910
and uh.......puppetry
Anonymous No.528872775
>>528871948
AAAAIEEE
Anonymous No.528872783
>>528868294
>>528868324
so you're gay. that's all you had to say.
Anonymous No.528872798 >>528873225 >>528873428
>>528858339 (OP)
is dragon not kinda mid right now? aggro is just praying to rng and going 50/50 win or lose every game. ramp just has nothing too valuable right now going for it aside from a big evolve genesis dragon if they have no wards up. it's not a one shot.
dragon is... le average?
Anonymous No.528872821 >>528872938
They can fix the game by making both players win, and one player just wins harder with more fireworks.
Anonymous No.528872823 >>528872957 >>528873050 >>528873112 >>528873341
ENTER
Anonymous No.528872863 >>528873078 >>528873148
>>528872570
>25 win streak in emerald
>3 copies of a card draw brick
>2 ceres and 3 olivia for some reason
>2 medusa
>2 and not 3 apollo
>no mukan

lmao nevermind bro
Anonymous No.528872886 >>528873186
>>528872703
Making Cerberus completely mutually exclusive with the bat archetype was the most retarded fucking design decision Cygames made with Abyss.
Anonymous No.528872895
>>528871887
hmmm strong yes but not top tier.
portal eats their lunch
Anonymous No.528872908
>>528872480
>>528872465
Nice try.

>>528872460
Just place a cemetery before turn 8, then summon cerb on turn 8 for 8 damage.
Anonymous No.528872919
>>528871995
This needs a hi-rez version.
Anonymous No.528872938
>>528872821
the literally already to that
you get points win or lose and youre spammed with evo sfx past turn 4
Anonymous No.528872957
>>528872823
I kneel.
Anonymous No.528872973 >>528882403
>>528868681
>the getgo
Retard, it's four years old. People understand the game already.
The dumbfucks complaining about SV2 assumed we would never get anything that didn't already exist in game day one even though that's never how these games work.
Anonymous No.528872989 >>528873031 >>528873035 >>528873284 >>528874090
what's rune's weakness supposed to be
Anonymous No.528873031
>>528872989
None, they are the pet craft.
Anonymous No.528873035
>>528872989
they brick once in a blue moon
Anonymous No.528873041
>>528871887
>3 mana 2/1 deal 5 dmg no evo
>5 mana 7/9 silver with ward no evo
>6 mana 12/6 bronze with rush no evo
>stupid 7 mana furry no evo
>8 mana 18/14 rush ward
is balanced because.... ehh
Anonymous No.528873049
>>528872229
These numbers are basically all before Wonderland fucked things up but Abyss is very much early Shadow. Deathly Tyrant is exciting enough that I took an Atomy/DT deck to an /svg/ tournament live even, but it was not how the deck was typically played.

Shadow was always the "default midrange" deck that tried to out value everything with recursion and cheated stats. Abyss has a ton of cards that're direct parallels to Shadow staples, Cerberus being Eachtar is the most obvious thing, but value oriented play simply isn't good in WB where everything is tempo oriented and the card quality isn't strong enough to make up the difference. The concepts are still there but Blood's the one that suffers the death of identity. They kept nothing except self damage.
Anonymous No.528873050 >>528873257
>>528872823
Anonymous No.528873078 >>528873254 >>528873357
>>528872863
>Using Mukan when you’re better off saving your necromancy for Cerberus and Mummy
Uhm bro what are you doing?
Anonymous No.528873085 >>528873217
>>528871932
The earlygame seems alright.
I personally don't like cannon and have yet to see value from the (one) Ralmia I run.
Sylvia is a monster of a card.
Doesn't the 10 cost help close games in puppet?
Anonymous No.528873112
>>528872823
Literally me.
Anonymous No.528873117
Anonymous No.528873139
>had to use 3 dclimbs to out heal mecha lethal
absolutely dumb
Anonymous No.528873148 >>528873357
>>528872863
Mukan is actual dogshit and most decks have cut him entirely by now. He's a noob trap card.
Anonymous No.528873186 >>528873459
>>528872886
It really is. If her evolution read "Summon Mimi and Coco" then we'd miss out on the 6 burn from hand play but Abyss would be in a way better spot being able to run as aggro. Getting locked out of bats kills so many valuable tools.
Anonymous No.528873217
>>528873085
non evo ralmia is actually decent, super'ing her is a trap
Anonymous No.528873220
>Ranking up on a loss
Feelsbadman
Anonymous No.528873225 >>528873298
>>528872798
Ramp dragon just sucks and super evolution as a mechanic fucks it over more than anything else
Anonymous No.528873234 >>528873409 >>528873542
aggro is so much better for ranked spam.
Sure you can yoyo from topaz to diamond constantly but the speed of games is way more RP efficient that slow ass regular games.
Even better for fast chest drops
Anonymous No.528873254
>>528873078
Yeah bro let me just completely slot out a card that lets me clear 4 followers (3 of which are guaranteed clears regardless of their health or even barrier) WITHOUT wasting evolve for just 8 shadows

Surely a brilliant idea when sword, forest, portal and dragon exist! I have no doubt that I'll not only last until turn 8, but I'll even manage to finish them off with mummy for the epic win!
Anonymous No.528873257
>>528873050
dolls can't feel pleasure
Anonymous No.528873284 >>528873348
>>528872989
They do nothing until T5.
That's it, pray they brick.
Anonymous No.528873298 >>528873414 >>528874097
>>528873225
but aggro dragon is just praying to god and sending it. it's not that much funner to me idk.
Anonymous No.528873325
when do chests reset each day?
is it daily reset or some other time?
Anonymous No.528873341
>>528872823
oh shit it's john shadowverse
Anonymous No.528873343
>>528871997
I want to earn my wins, playing OP autoplay trash like portal and rune is humiliating
Anonymous No.528873348 >>528873682
>>528873284
They have just enough removal (deal 2 damage to random enemy follower) to really fucking annoy you before then.
Anonymous No.528873357 >>528873475 >>528873507
>>528873078
>>528873148
rubyniggers
Anonymous No.528873396 >>528873651
Any tips for abyss and deck lists?
Anonymous No.528873404
hey I'm a proud ruby
Anonymous No.528873409
>>528873234
I'm so fucking annoyed at how Portal is the most common deck on ladder. I'd rather be facing forest and rune all day, the games are so much faster. I just want to get in and out.
Anonymous No.528873414 >>528873547
>>528873298
Then don't play dragon
in fact, don't play this game at all because balance is already in a terrible place and it's only going to get worse
just look at the absolute state of abyss, no doubt they have no idea what to do with it so they're just going to "fix" it by slapping a bunch of overstatted legendaries onto it next expansion
Anonymous No.528873428 >>528873547
>>528872798
I think ramp is strong but inflexible.
Sword really makes it squirm.
Needs more consistent ramp.
Anonymous No.528873459
>>528873186
You could just change the text to "Reanimate (Mimi and/or Coco)" so the burn would still be possible
Anonymous No.528873475 >>528873768 >>528874519
>>528873357
Mukan takes either an evo point (better spent elsewhere) or popping a crypt (denying you a Cerberus combo) or spending shadows (better spent elsewhere) to remove anything, and can't even hit shit behind a ward or with intimidate. A fucking Phildau is better than that trash, and you shouldn't be running Phildau in Abyss either.
Anonymous No.528873507
>>528873357
I’m a sapphirefag sir please show some respect.
Anonymous No.528873542 >>528873705
>>528873234
Everyone should implement a strategy of quitting 50% of the games they enter to speed things up even more.
Anonymous No.528873547 >>528873639
>>528873414
I really like ramp dragon though. I will believe in the next set making it even funner even if I am a scrub.
>>528873428
to get better, what do I mulligan for? what should I keep in hand and play to?
Anonymous No.528873616
Andrea stop shitposting and come play
Anonymous No.528873625 >>528873815 >>528873857 >>528873954 >>528874107
>demoted
>again
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Anonymous No.528873639 >>528873795
>>528873547
I dont have dragon myself just going off what I've observed so sdaly can't help with details of strategy.
I just know that if they get their ramp it can be really tough to deal with their big dudes before you've hit your late game.
Anonymous No.528873651 >>528873662
>>528873396
See:
>>528872696
Anonymous No.528873662
>>528873651
Thanks anon
Anonymous No.528873682
>>528873348
That's where the pray they brick part comes. Most play total of 9(NINE) spells that can draw so the deck is stupidly consistent.
Anonymous No.528873705
>>528873542
Chests never spawn after a quit. You have to win or lose the long way.
Anonymous No.528873728
rune is literally the jew class
expensive, plays dirty tricks to win and controls golems
Anonymous No.528873768 >>528873840 >>528874519
>>528873475
cerberus combos are extremely situational and not worth hoarding shadows for when they could be used for board clear via mukan/orthrus

you shit shadows out the ass anyway, if the game is stale/free enough that you'll manage to squeeze one in then you'll likely have the shadows for it anyway. there is no game where you simultaneously have to clear board AND somehow get the opportunity to cerberus combo, you won't survive without burning the crypt anyway

he's extremely good in the mid to late game and just because retards aren't running him in their dogshit decks doesn't mean he isn't a flexible card worth having against sword/portal/forestfags

i'd completely understand not running 3 of him but omitting him entirely is just mental retardation
Anonymous No.528873793 >>528873958 >>528874113
>diamond at B1
>already feeling the grind
How long does it take until Master because holy shit I remember it being easier in SV1
Anonymous No.528873795
>>528873639
it's ok I will persevere
Anonymous No.528873815 >>528873942
>>528873625
Stop sandbagging
Anonymous No.528873840 >>528874129 >>528874519
>>528873768
8 shadows is a fucking lot, anon. Abyss doesn't yet have the shadow generation to cope with spending that much on just removing one extra enemy.
Anonymous No.528873857 >>528873942 >>528873954
>>528873625
god I wish that were me
t. ruby
Anonymous No.528873942
>>528873815
>Stop sandbagging
I wish i was, truly i do

>>528873857
that pic is not me
Anonymous No.528873954 >>528874058
>>528873857
>>528873625
Post lists. Please.
Anonymous No.528873958
>>528873793
about 1600 GRP
Anonymous No.528874041
They should let me borrow a bunch of leggos from my friends list like in the other gachas
Anonymous No.528874058 >>528874143
>>528873954
Anonymous No.528874090
>>528872989
>
Anonymous No.528874097
>>528873298
It's actually on the mulligan, if the mulligan goes wrong then yes.
Anonymous No.528874107 >>528874193
>>528873625
You can demote in this game?
Anonymous No.528874113
>>528873793
it was not fucking easier in sv1
i did the grind a week ago from AA1 and it took me 3 straight days of pure grinding
Anonymous No.528874129 >>528874275
>>528873840
Orthrus and crypt generate 2 and 3 shadows respectively, with another shadow each when they're destroyed.

bonemancer is 3 shadows, mino is 2 shadows, you could get another 5 shadows from a single cerb if you don't have 6 shadows when playing her and you super evolve

shadows are very rarely an issue
Anonymous No.528874143
>>528874058
when will we get her back
Anonymous No.528874162
meh
Anonymous No.528874191 >>528874261 >>528874441 >>528874786
Holy shit my first win with abyss (1 win 1 loss so far) I'm so happy.

I literally rerolled to play this class so new account. Don't even care if I never leave ruby so long as I play abyss.
Anonymous No.528874193 >>528874297
>>528874107
Group can flip-flop.
Rank cannot.
Anonymous No.528874214
h-haven?
Anonymous No.528874261
>>528874191
congrats sis!
Anonymous No.528874263
>>528871382
>puppet
owned
Anonymous No.528874275 >>528874343
>>528874129
>Orthrus and crypt generate 2 and 3 shadows respectively,
Both are two, actually. Even if both die, that's 6 shadows total. Still two shadows away from a Mukan!
In practice I tried running him and every time either I didn't have enough shadows to activate him, or activating him wasted too many shadows and sabotaged my later turns. He's terrible.
Anonymous No.528874290 >>528874529
what's a nigga gotta do to rank up in this bitch
Anonymous No.528874297 >>528874363 >>528874373 >>528874391 >>528874417
>>528874193
What group does even mean?
Anonymous No.528874343 >>528874449
>>528874275
I can't imagine that your winrate against sword is that high, then

There's literally no feasible way to clear most of her insane board presence in the mid game, gravy isn't cutting it 9 times out of 10 and they can keep pushing the offense until you just die (even before albert)
Anonymous No.528874359
My guild leader is going to kick and lynch me cause I suck at this game.
Anonymous No.528874363
>>528874297
Your matchmaking is by rank and group. So if you're B0 sapphire, you'll generally match against other B rank sapphires.
Rank only goes up and is basically a measure of playtime, group goes up and down and is essentially your actual MMR.
Anonymous No.528874373
>>528874297
If you win a lot group go up
If you lose a lot group go down
Anonymous No.528874390
>>528872148
Vampy leader...when...
Anonymous No.528874391
>>528874297
Group is your actual MMR. Rank is just a fancy way of calling Level in other games.
Anonymous No.528874417
>>528874297
you get matched with other players who are skilled (lol skill ceiling is so low in this game) as you or have as good of a deck as you do. the higher your group the more points you earn for each match
Anonymous No.528874441 >>528874538
>>528874191
You niggers only relied on shadow and blood back in the day because it was a braindead unga bunga aggro decks. It was always about the wins.
Anonymous No.528874449 >>528874545
>>528874343
>I can't imagine that your winrate against sword is that high, then
I've started winning almost every game against sword after I cut Mukan. He lost me more games against sword than he ever helped. Apollo is FAR better against sword than that shadow-devouring piece of shit.
Anonymous No.528874467 >>528874547 >>528874613
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
Anonymous No.528874504
>>528871997
I don't play classes/decks just because they're good but if the one I like is currently top tier I still play it and enjoy my wins.
Anonymous No.528874519
>>528873768
>>528873475
>>528873840

I have to agree that Muka takes too much shadows. It's better used elsewhere like the mummy for easy ping damage. If I was using Mukan's necromancy ability it means I'm also losing anyway.

Although if I have an extra cemetery or a live bone lancer on board, I use Mukan for 2 easy banes.
Anonymous No.528874529
>>528874290
some say it's delayed by a few matches
Anonymous No.528874535
>puppettard got decked out
lmaoooo
Anonymous No.528874538 >>528874795
>>528874441
I was maining Control Blood back when it was on average a 40% winrate deck and the average game took 10 minutes. I took it to GM multiple times despite all of that by learning how to pilot it and tech against the meta.
Anonymous No.528874545 >>528874624
>>528874449
you have to waste an evo on apollo for him to do anything as well, and even then sometimes he's not enough if they have anything above 2 health PLUS he's the only follower that gets to attack for a measly 3 damage (4 with super evo but are you really wasting a fucking super evo point on apollo lol)
Anonymous No.528874547
>>528874467
not 2 of crown? zamn bro wants to brick.
Anonymous No.528874551
I don't know what the fuck is going on with group
am I sapphire or topaz?
drop go up drop go up again, no numbers
Anonymous No.528874573
Lobby 21488 is blessed. I never get clothes
Anonymous No.528874591
FVARK..
Anonymous No.528874613
>>528874467
i crown you the king of swordbabs
Anonymous No.528874624 >>528874729
>>528874545
Your bonemancer skeletons, bro... You can use them to chip enemy creatures down to 1 hp.
In practice Apollo saved my life so many times he's one of the best cards to run against sword, feeling far better than Mukan every time I play him.
Anonymous No.528874659 >>528874732
>I-I will drop my yuri-ack
Anonymous No.528874710 >>528874775 >>528874857 >>528874875 >>528874965 >>528874991 >>528875172 >>528875217
>24 wins in AA Diamond
>cannons
The fuck?
Anonymous No.528874729 >>528874790
>>528874624
why not both? realistically your bonemancer skellies are NOT surviving jack shit if the swordfag doesn't want them to, come on
Anonymous No.528874732
>>528874659
this is rape
Anonymous No.528874737
>bats
>ghosts
>skeletons
this should be abyss' gimmick. just give it a gajillion types of shitter tokens
Anonymous No.528874740
Man, ignoring the first two accelerated sets, I just dunno if 2 months between every set once we stabilize is the right pace. I guess it's better than mini expansions though.
Anonymous No.528874775
>>528874710
you dont combine early right anon?
Anonymous No.528874786
>>528874191
I love the Cerbussy leader's vacant brainless expression.
Anonymous No.528874790
>>528874729
And yet in practice Apollo turns around games for me all the time, while Mukan is a dead card that always feels like shit to play and usually loses me the game when I do play him.
That's why I run Apollo and cut Mukan.
Anonymous No.528874795 >>528874872
>>528874538
>scarlet
>spawn
"control" more like aggro on asteroids and everything together
Anonymous No.528874857 >>528874990
>>528874710
Don’t tell me you listened to /svg/?
Anonymous No.528874872 >>528874981
>>528874795
I was running 0-wincon CBlood most of that time, anon, just stalling the game until the enemy decks out or concedes. I only included spawn out of necessity when the ladder was 50% DShift because otherwise I'd just die against them.
Anonymous No.528874875
>>528874710
>drop cannon
>JO fusing
Anonymous No.528874908 >>528874946
What the fuck do I run if almost all the decks I run into are portal and I rarely see rune or forest
Anonymous No.528874946
>>528874908
play roach
Anonymous No.528874965
>>528874710
cannon is fucking dog shit in some matchups but ok in others
just mulligan it when it's bad lmao
Anonymous No.528874981 >>528875171
>>528874872
Tier 0 every season dudes deflecting to rune as cause and effect, that's a classic.
Anonymous No.528874990
>>528874857
Cannon just feels awkward at times and is a do nothing versus some matchups like haven
Anonymous No.528874991 >>528875157
>>528874710
If you can't land 3 shoots in a row on Anne you don't deserve to be diamond
Anonymous No.528875063 >>528875129
How the FUCK do you win on turn 7 with forest
Anonymous No.528875129
>>528875063
just do 10 damage
you did aggro them down early right?
Anonymous No.528875136
>>528875107
>>528875107
>>528875107
Anonymous No.528875157
>>528874991
I'd definitely shoot a load on Anne three times in a row
Anonymous No.528875171 >>528875408
>>528874981
On a related note, 0-wincon CBlood mirrors were by far my favourite matchup in SV1.
It was an actual thinking man's matchup as every card you draw brings you closer to losing the game by deckout (which most of those games ended with), but if you don't draw cards, your enemy will just kill you with random threats like Temptress Vampire.
In other words, whoever draws 1 card fewer than the enemy while remaining afloat wins, making for very strategic gameplay.
The average mirror game lasted 20-30 minutes, though.
Anonymous No.528875172
>>528874710
Are you blind, that's Portal. Portal most of the time run that, they just don't feel the need to use it, it's just a x2.
Anonymous No.528875217
>>528874710
Here's the thing, it doesn't matter how strongly someone words something or how convincing they seem, if they won't post rank or results to back it up, throw their opinion in the trash.

No one knows the meta yet, the game hasn't even been out for a month. Play what's fun to you and be the first to discover things while the rest of the shitters get their opinions from others out of fear of being judged because they don't know what it feels like to try and succeed.
Anonymous No.528875292
>puppet portal keeps roping me with horrible connection to boot
>I'm completely bricking too
>superevo a Ceres trying to heal out of lethal for their incoming orchis
>she lives 4 turns and wins me the game because opponent can't seem to comprehend barrier and forgot about bane
lmao, weirdest win I've ever had
Anonymous No.528875408
>>528875171
Now that you mention it, that's how it went down for every mirror battle in the game.
Anonymous No.528875602
I feel like Portal completely abandoned the gundam play, they just intent to win with orchis, but they're very capable of switching game plan if they want, which is where the amulet comes down.
Anonymous No.528875614
>>528870252
Don’t forget the card art and lobby screen, that’s what I’m leaning towards right now since I already paypigged for Luna leader.
Anonymous No.528882403
>>528872973
Retard. People understood SV too.