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>>528858505Iโm a 23 5โ6โ 120 pounds italian (not south) runeGOD
get dabbed on runetranny on god!!
>>528858660I would if I could, sorry...
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What is the current cope?
Did sv1 ever divulge ranked win rates by craft, rank, going 1st, etc?
>>528858505A minority that's for fucking sure. It's gen z all over, and the few millennials around are the gayass motherfuckers, not the good ones, they all vanished from the face of the internet, not only this reddit occupied place and the gay masters.
>>528857350>>528857842>>528858439
>>528858339 (OP)Us RuneGODs will never die. We will lurk in the shadows, waiting to break your pathetic winstreak with a gigantic highroll.
>>528858760based runigger
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The FUARKING King of Portal. Orchis is the Queen, but he is the King.
RAPE ALL PORTAL KEKS
BURN ORCHIS AT THE STAKE
FUCK THIS CRAFT AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>52885850531 been playing card games since I was 10
>People endlessly bitching about Orchis when Sylvia is considerably more overpowered
Hell Orchis is fine to me honestly. Sylvia and Alouette are some of the most insane tempo swings in the game.
Why do people hate the most fun deck in the game like spellboost dshift plays are fun and the deck has a bunch of cute girls with big hats
>>528858679basato fratello
any runesisters here got skin bleaching routines they can recommend? the ones I tried don't work
>>528859023Retard, every Portal card is overpowered
>Alouette>Sylvia>Orchis>Artifacts in general
>>528858705Everything revolving around a fucking card game makes it hilarious
Use the code TvhcSbr and great draws and legendaries shall come to you!
I play Haven and I am emerald, how do I cope.
bros i don't want to climb this much i only have one orchis for my puppet deck...
>>528859105Even Yugioh is like this with how serious people like Kaiba get.
>>528859086I don't really care about Orchis, she's literally the only reason Puppets function as a deck. Artifact is obnoxious because of the value they have on their midgame plays, not Orchis.
>>528858505I'm nearing my 40s
>>528859171Play different game
Why is this a 3/1 instead of lets say 3/3? It's a fucking symmetrical effect and a gold card.
>>528859280didnt kaiba make an entire university/school dedicated to card games
>>528859396he does 4 damage
Nobody in the regular lobbies stands on top of things like signs or pillars. It's like they aren't even real people, completely souless.
>>528858505Turned 35 a couple of weeks ago
>>528859413Yes, he also sent cards to space.
>>528859413Not just school. He literally made the whole fucking town just for card game.
>All of the people you ERP with are fat sweaty old men using loli avatars
>>528859105say that to wolfraud
Hey guys, use my code: 48qpuU7
I made it to D2 and finished the story. Definitely gonna take a while to reach A0, but I plan to stick around.
>>528859560and thats based
>>528859413He did. Also, Crowler got a PhD in dueling, so supposedly there was a course for that somewhere.
portal is trash compared to forest, you have been warned
>>528859396He's actually a really powerful card but abyss can't practically go aggro right now. If he was 3/3, trading him out would be inconsistent enough for most decks that he'd be worth 7 damage on average.
>mentally warped by portalchads: the general
good to know i've been giving you shitters PTSD, kek.
>release Havencraft without a SINGLE way to accelerate amulets besides Engage - no Hallowed Dogma or Healing Prayer
>without a single Banish effect
>without a single healing spell
what the hell were they thinking? At least Abyss got Cerberus.
>>528859450>>528859683think you're missing that the crest hurts both...
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Honest deck
Honest wins
>finally pull the trigger on crafting a sword deck
>face only portal
Alright, Iโm switching back to dragon.
>>528859453Last time I visited a nip lobby there were people dancing and one guy doing pushups on top of Eudie's head
>>528859791Many of the best blood cards in SV1 did too. If Abyss becomes capable of racing then Balto will certainly see play but that just isn't the case right now because Abyss will get blown up from hand on turn 8~ and die just off self damage.
>>528859751Haven got 5 heal cards and a banish. What are you talking about?
>>52885850535 and I still ERP.
>>528859812>detective's lensI kneel
>>528858803>What is the current cope?the next set we will tier S for sure
>>528859023In terms of Portal Overtuned cards its as follows.
Sylvia > Orchis > Alouette
Alouette needs a stat line nerf, like 1 / 3 so she doesnt feel as oppresive. She brings an entire other Mech with her on Evo so having shit base stats is fine.
Orchis also needs the puppets she gets on super evo to not be Enhanced Puppets. The fact that she can kill your stuff guaranteed with bane while also having the option to go for face for 7 is fucking ridiculous. Either that or some stat nerfs, being an 8/8 is so fucking hard to deal.
And ofc Sylvia, the queen of value, she draws if you need to be aggressive, she heals if you are against aggro, she can kill 1 enemy for 1 evo or 2 for 1 superevo. The stupid part is that she kills with NO conditions and has decent base stats to trade with. If someone plays Sylvia back to back on you it's almost impossible to win. She could do half of what she does atm and she would still be 3x on every portal deck.
How do you tell how much damage your card will do like if it says 4/2 storm how much damage will it do to me
I think gary is a big nothingburger of a leggo compared to the lesbians, kuon, Dclimb, and orchis.
Big number go up, head feels good
>>528858505Unc aaaah thread aint no way
>roach is going to get away with it again because of topaztards who play against the popular slop
you shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion below diamond
>>528860059I'd like to see some of Orchis' effects gated behind a certain number of puppets dying over the course of the game. That way she can't just be stuffed into random artifact decks as gigavalue. Orchis is much more honest when in a pure puppet shell.
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>>528860005I thank the dragonbro that was posting lens.
It's really good for my haven shenanigans since I can engage it for free to activate storm on bird
Not only that but miss detective is kind of nice too 3/3 puts her out of range of a lot of early removal
>>528860150dat gurl gots a FAT fuckin ass
>>528859812Haven is genuinely better at abusing Storm than Dragoncraft
>>528858505I'm 29 I don't erp but I like fapping together with friends sometimes
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Every deck is fine outside Rune. The only card in this game that makes me want to uninstall and hope KMR gets a pipebomb in the mail is Dimension Shift because it's insane that a craft can get a new turn along with a freshly spellboosted hand for free at 0 cost. Whoever came up with this needs to be shot repeatedly.
>>528860059What Orchis needs is to buff the puppets in your hand, like make enhanced puppets 0 cost or whatever idk, instead of summoning them. Something that lets her still be oppressive on puppet decks but not on artifact.
>>528860083Anne and Grea are such absurd overstatted effects its unreal.
>>528860292>every deck is fine >Haven is fineThis is how I know you don't play this fucking game.
>>528860282isnt that basically what ERP is? I dont actually write stories or anything... but we do get a little gay sometimes
what a weird fucking mirror
>>528860059alouette is already weak because she's 5pp evo 4atk, so often you have to commit Gamma (does nothing) just to kill a simple 5/5. If you summon Beta, opponent gets to go face for free.
Sylvia is a 6pp do nothing, useless without evos which are crucial to Portal's win con
>>528859751The nerf to Soul Conversion is the most infuriating thing about playing Abyss right now. That and how shit their early game dudes are.
>>528860059Strongly agree on Alouette. I really do just think that her being a 4/6 on evo is crazy. I was thinking she should be a 2/2 base honestly. Orchis bugs me less because again, she is all Puppets really have but I could live with her giving Puppets +1 instead of giving enhanced ones straight up. This reduces the baseline strength while giving it a higher ceiling potentially. Fuck Sylvia though that shit is crazy.
>>528860287aragavy should at least be selected damage
So, is every leader going to be either Ticket, Battlepass, or $20?
>>528860059>t. never played the deck
>>528860379sorry not taking game advice from /trash/ schizos
go bother someone else
You guys arenโt considering the social impact of portal nerfs.
You nerf portal and all the non-rerollers and/or pure f2p will peace out of shadoba forever
>>528860379Haven's power level should be the baseline for everything
>>528860403portalfags really believe the shit they post lmfao
>>528860457my eyelashes look like this
I want to be a haven sissy so bad
>>528860403i can smell your portalstained hands
>>528860476Damn, if every other class had to suffer through what Haven does.
I don't think you faggots would be able to manage.
>>528860382when people ask me for erp I assume it's actual roleplaying...I like fantasizing and dirty talking more
>>528860473Good. Newfags are a blight.
>>528860059>hey guys leet's nerf portal's only remotely kill potential card at 8 so that every single deck boils down to who hits 10 and draws their instant ender super card firstgood thing you'll never be in charge of designing anything
>>528860556preach sister!!! these chuds have, like, no idea how bad we have it right now
>>528860473These people have no idea how bad it can get. They will see next meta, and the meta after that. They have no clue. They're seething about a control card tied to an evo lmao.
>>528860556wouldn't be suffering at that point
Do you suffer in mirror matches?
nvm it's haven mirror ofc you do
I have never seen a game where the portal player played 2 Sylvias and lost
She is so fucking stupid at getting you back from any situation i don't understand what were they thinking.
Oh but she needs an Evo to kill. Well yeah no fucking shit. She is either getting you out of kill range or filling your hand while doing so i will gladly spend that to take board control guaranteed.
Another to the fold.
Though to be honest I have a long ways to go for mastery it feels.
Haven match-up I misplay a lot in since I'm not used to their strategy and kill potential.
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>>528858505I'm going to turn 31 in a less than 3 weeks.
>>528860735>C1discount diamond
>>528859413Don't forget he invented time travel so he could rematch Yami in ancient Egypt.
>>528860752Cool epiphany anon, got any more eureka moments to share with us?
>>528860685Portal use that 4pp card, into sylva, into sylva or orchis then it's over most of the time. Same with Rune, you need to be very lucky.
Forest is the real faggot class.
At least the others can be stopped by wards
>>528858505Why are you all so OLD?
at least Rune knows their shit is fucking retardedly busted and they don't pretend otherwise.
Portalniggers are on some high level dellusion.
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The more money you spent, the better draws you get
Its just so hilarious that Haven is such a dogshit dead in the water fucking class that everyone seems to have a collective amnesia about the class.
>HURRR IF YOU JUST NERF RUNE OR POTAL THE GAME WILL BE COMPLETELY BALANCED NOW
Like holy fuck, Haven is right there too and it can't even compete against the next weakest deck because its so fundamentally broken it doesn't function at fucking all.
it's so weird being shit elo and reading this thread because my single orchis is barely ever relevant, most of my wins are just based on having permanent board control from all the good lower cost lower rarity cards
like yeah sometimes they'll grea grea kuon kuon satan dshift and i have to eat a dick but playing an honest board game like it's release hearthstone was good enough for me to climb out of ruby
>>528860857I hit diamond and then suddenly I'm up against nothing but forest every single game.
>>528858814I know the answer is probably no because fuck transparency, but I'd like to know.
I have been playing the game for over a week now on both PC and mobile. I am not F2P as I paid $200 for my first deck. Initially, the economy seems to be very bad (500 gold pack price, lower vial from liquefying silvers, and, critically, no liquefy first 3 copies). I thought it would sucks so bad as a F2P player or a low-spender. One week ahead, I changed my mind. The economy is fine and I can enjoy many good decks. In my current opinion, the only thing that need change is the no liquefy first 3 copies rule.
I am not the luckiest player (no 100 packs key jackpot) and neither I do any reroll. Just straight up normal player that buys all crystal package, plus battle pass. Currently, I have 2 top tier, pretty much fully upgraded decks (puppet portalcraft and artifact portalcraft, 3 if you include hybrid). I also have enough vials from extra cards to upgrade my half-baked decks into good viability (ramp dragon, midrange sword, aggro abyss). The only classes where I don't have enough resources to even make half-baked decks are runecraft and havencraft, in which both have very expensive top tier decks (I am absolutely fine with this, F2P players and low-spenders aren't supposed to have everything). Finally, I have around 7000 gold that I save for next expansion (that is still growing everyday) as I am satisfied enough with my current collection.
So far so good. I am having a blast with this game and I have variety of viable decks. So, what happens that suddenly change my mind and my perspective on the economy? It turns out that the economy is REALLY supported by the freebies that Cygames give (Daily packs, park keys, events, events, events (many of them), bonus packs from here and there, and recently, 3 free legendary packs). So, as long as Cygames keep pumping up these freebies, I think the economy is going to be fine.
As much as I hate the no liquefy first 3 copies rule (and expensive cosmetics lol), I can't give the game negative review anymore.
>>528860857But forest suffers from wards the most?
>>528860925You forgot about Bellerophon Haven in Rotations and Unlimited?
I wish I was a haven slutty priestess sucking shota cocks behind the chapel
>>528858339 (OP)I barely see anyone with signa emblemโฆ the only ones i see in the park are the mainstream ones like dark jeanne and sekkaโฆ
Honestly Iโm just having a lot of fun with this game and wanted to post something positive about it after seeing all the negative reviews.
Iโll freely admit that Iโm not a FTP player, but I havenโt spent a ton (only $200) and Iโm really enjoying the fast-paced experience and play styles so far.
Iโve never played the original Shadowverse so Iโm not doing a direct comparison here. I will say however that compared to the CCGs/TCGs Iโm used to (Hearthstone, MTG including physical) the cost here really doesnโt seem out of line from what Iโm accustomed to with this genre. Again, not comparing to the original, just the experience of a totally new player.
I was going to wait longer to write a post like this so I could speak with more gameplay experience, but I have a few decks built with reasonable success and am having a ton of fun, and because I almost didnโt start this game because of some of the negative posts I wanted to write from my experience to encourage other new players to try it out!
Good luck out there all!
You already copypasted that one Orchis. also you need to increase the deck price, its at $350 now
Is this person complaining about Haven so much because they want to be the special snowflake about playing them or something. They could have switched by now.
>>528860789well have to start somewhere.
>>528861070dark jeanne is not mainstream take that back
Why do we have a resident haven avatarfag downplayer
>>528858814They did at first whenever they nerfed cards but stopped doing it after a while.
>>528861026You mean sucking big fat demon cocks behind the chapel
>>528860827I want to fall for the bait...
I wish I was having sex with Orchis.
>>528861174Don't worry anon, everyone already hates you.
>>528860473They should have thought about that before fucking over the vial economy.
Does Aragavy matter for shadow?
I have all the Cerbs and Sneks and stuff, just not this dude
>>528861120Dork jeanne is hella mainstream, she even has a granblue version and the granblue version has an alt.
>>528861114point being that rank dictates matchmaking just as much as group does and it's infinitely easier to reach diamond in early ranks
don't worry bro keep at it maybe you'll stay there but you probably won't
>>528861195Roach hands typed this post
>>528861258he is the premium removal
bet you weren't expecting that huh fat bald faggot
>>528861160par for the course, hags were downplaying since the beginning of time
Lloyd is Orchis' personal dildo... You will never compare to Lloyd.
>lost 30 times with Runedeck.
>/svg/ recommend face dragon.
>waifu is playing Abyss.
>I actually plan to play Abyss but got shoved to play Rune by gacha.
>Abyss is incomplete deck and next abyss legend might replace any legend Abyss currently have.
I want to give love letters to Anne then watch as she laughs and talks about how lesbian she is while shitting on men in general
>>528861195why do you want to be raped
>>528861007How many times will you spam this?
>>528861070Signa was released after the game went into maint mode so only really dedicated players and whales/luckshits after the game came out have her.
>>528860342I'm thinking that the ward summon should be an evo effect.
Rune is genuinely starting to make me reconsider playing this game long term.
>>528860857I know none of the portalragers have been hit by a good roach player. All of the damage hits face. At least the bullshit highroll rune boards don't have storm.
>haven downplayer
Go play Haven otherwise shut the FUCK up.
>>528861258yes
you cant use incomplete decks with abyss
i think you need at least 2 aragavy, 2 cerbs, 1 medussa, 1 olivia.
so we know portal and rune are objectively the best right now
but who downplays their deck the most?
>>528861341>4 fairies in hand>ate your extra pp>completely worthless board (rush means fairies clear bellringer literally for cree)good work amataz, you did your part
>>528861275Dark Jeanne is even in the Rage of Bahamut anime
hags might as well mean haven fags
>>528861235I wish the game wasn't generic, you can put fucking women from all ages naked in front of me, I'd rather go back to shadowverse 1's story and characters. Only Isabelle had the fucking boobs and it was fine. The only good thing they did was to kill blood and shadow and vampy along with it. Cerberus is fine.
>>528861258Two copies feels pretty necessary to make the deck feel good sadly. Other removal for decks that go wide like apollo is nice instead, but aragavy is insanely flexible. I honestly think he is the second most important abyss lego after cerb.
>>528861258Hes good. his damage order isn't random and targets the oldest cards>newest cards on the board
>>528861438game would be fine if they banned dimension climb or at least restricted that trash to 1 per deck
who the fuck designed this shit? It's like everyone is stuck playing shadowverse and rune is playing YGO
>>528861258aragavy carries the midgame on his back (or tries his best and it fucking sucks when you have evo him against aggro)
>>528861341this doesn't look like a winning position
>>528861472Portal and sword, duh
I haven't showered in 3 days
>>528861453Rune can 20 to 0 in 2 different ways but only with 10 mana, it's not really a consistent deck though I can outplay people with portal but rune is just about how well I draw
>>528861509Eris also had tits
What does a bricked hand look like?
>>528861438>>528861565It's seriously like they just stapled spellboost effects onto their cards at zero cost, or even negative cost. It's outrageous.
>>528861580i was gonna agree, then i realize orthrus is already online for turn 4 and they already have gravy and cerb in hand
so it could go either way really
The trick to beat haven is summoning guys who have 4 health by turn 4 itโs hard to deal with that and doesnโt give them a turn to heal
>>528861382Elves don't rape
>>528861503Haven isn't hags anymore and thank god for that. Hagkeks get no dedicated craft anymore.
>>528861472Portal players do some mental gymnastics to pretend their Alouette into Sylvia into Orchis isn't so bad when it's 95% of the time a guaranteed win on any board.
Rune players just now that T4 Anne into T5 Anne into T6 Kuon into T7 Kuon with some Destroyers sprinkled around is absolute fucking bullshit and they are just waiting for the nerf any time soon.
Thank you to anons who replied to my query
I am now bankrupt and got two Aragavy, let's see how poorly this is going to go
>>528861438Making Dimension Climb refill Rune's hand shows they learned exactly nothing from the first game.
>>528861652You spend the first few turns doing absolutely fucking nothing because your opening hand managed to be all of your high cost cards, and then your mulligan is also all of the high cost cards.
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I did a funny
this is the worst day of my life
WTB vampy outfit for my park character
>rune bricks
>YOUR OPPONENT HAS REQUESTED A REMATCH
lol
>>528861120Jeannes are all mainstream by association
Damn french
>>528861778Don't forget william or that wind blast card just dramatically overkilling anything that manages to out-value their infinite value engines.
Are the japs uppity on twitter and twitch streams about the game being shit or what
>>528861764what do you mean by that? eris is forever 17
>"Ready Grea?, Right behi-
Hmm I will just leave detective on the board what is she gonna-
This is the hottest girl Cygames has ever created. You can't beat this, but I sure can beat my meat to Rosine.
>cards have different voicelines when certain cards are on the field
what the fuck, nobody told me about this
I want to go back to emerald.
Its super janky but I feel like the dragon storm/burn deck has potential.
>>528858814Yeah in 2016
https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0025 Don't expect anything but a list of nerfs these days though.
Also
>Homecomingโs ability to force opponents to deal with full hands makes this card uniquely frustrating, and not in the fun, challenging kind of way!Because of what they wrote here ้ๅฐใชในใใฌใน became a meme in Japan back then and Cygames apparently didn't like that because they never wrote subjective stuff like this again.
>>528861848How many tries did that take?
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I love chestslop now
>>528862148I needed the haven mirror match to make it happen
>>528862067does cygames have a customer support email you can write to?
>>528860059Honestly Alouette is just proof that the decision to standardise all evolve statlines on +2/+2 was fucking retarded. In SV1 she'd be a +0/+0 evolve and wouldn't be a problem.
>rune just concedes
but why though?
Every single issue listed here would be fixed if the +1pp for going 2nd didn't refresh.
2nd player getting to shit out an overtuned 5cost card one turn earlier while also being able to evolve it 1 turn earlier than opponent is a huge tempo swing.
Getting to do that AGAIN with superEvo a few turns later is the fucked up part.
Kuon on turn 6 + superEvo is the most stupid shit.
So is Abyss going to be tier 0 once Vampy releases in two weeks?
>>5288622653 cocytus 2 Kuon
>>528862265They're babies
>>528862036Philnoa, Alouette, Zirconia and someone else have lines together. Phidau is begging Alouette for something and she's like Fuck off Phildau I'm busy.
>>528862067I miss Homecoming. Imagine if Roach had even 7pp Homecoming right now.
>>528862067do you have link to aegis nerf note?
>>528860403I wonder who's behind this post
>>528859751>without a single Banish effectBro... Your priest...
>>528860752>>528861195dont post about my favorite class and leader like this please
>>528861782You will regret it! Good luck!
Dont let anyone know but shes won me so many games
I canโt play my allergies are acting up Iโm so itchy I took a Claritin but I canโt focus
>>528861576yeah his evo feels horrible, if instead he had something like evo: heal for 2 or even nothing he would be better at least in the current state of abyss
>>528862418I think she's incredibly strong into the artifact match up. She's just Twilight Dragon lite into anything else from my experience though.
>>528861629Eris was modest hence why sissies faggots hated her and didn't vibe with her. They liked Nephthys so "hag" isn't an argument.
just lost a game because I was too busy looking at ceres's tits to realize she has barrier
>>528862373>sheAlouette is the only one with no gender designation
>>528862418I just wish her crest were more punishing to rune/portal players.
>>528862373This is the interaction Just differently.
Ronavero: Phildau, long time no see.
Opponent drops Zircornia:Stand in my way and I will cut you down, Phildau
>>5288624797 vs 9 is really big if you miss your ramp.
They kinda work together too since you use twillight to restock after.
That extra 5-6 damage has been the difference too.
>>528861370Just be like me. I YOLOed it by spending 14000 vials on an abyss deck.
Those anons posting images of themselves stomping rune have most likely gotten destroyed by rune in a bunch of games before they finally got their win.
>>528862418I wish burnite crest was on regular evolution
>>528862373All the ward cards do I'm pretty sure. Mukan basically tells Phildau to shut the fuck up so pretty based.
>>528859947All the heals are worse than other crafts. The banner heal and Water bitch are only notable heals. 5 heal from 6 ward slut is clutch, but it mostly bricks your hand.
>>528862592whys everyone so mean to genki main character phildau... zirconia just wants his cock
>Drop artifacts from my deck
>Becomes stronger
Sorry gundamfags, Im taking the puppetpill and just storming face
>>528862479Not him but 7 mana is low enough to get storm from zell, if it's your 2nd/3rd and you don't need the crest, and depending on the board you don't need to pitch a huge card if zell can clear a ward
>>528862709>>528862592>>528862373>Card interactions are just telling Phildau to fuck off or shut upWhat did he do?
>>528862843just look at him
>>528862843By the look of that mask, pretend to be woman
>>528862162sorry bro, hopefully you'll get a good one next
Alouette is not a problem if you know how to play against her. Just go big instead of wide. She can't even clear unevolved Anne grea which is lol for a 5 cost evo....
>>528862695Only thing that Rune does that beats me is an on curve Grea.
Normally I just run them over if they dont have it
Please tell me the battle pass goes into extra tiers when you finish it
>>528862904He's very clearly a man once he takes it off though like he's not even androgynous like Kuon or Alouette
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>artifact mirror going second
>he concedes because he assumes I'm going to coin gundam next turn
>doesn't realized that I fucked up bigly and was an artifact short.
>>528862913I'd take any shitty one over another 100 rupies or whatever
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so when can we expect people to start hitting grandmaster?
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Which character do you think will return in the next expansion to save Abyss?
>>528862963Remember a week ago when faggots were crying the pass was LITERALLY MATHMATIACALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO FINISH lol
People complain about portal and rune but why not forest?
I think it can be pretty oppressive at times.
I get hard whenever I hit Arisa in her stupid elf face
>>528862953>Go big instead of wide, changing your entire gameplan around a single card>She still trades and gets a 3/5 mecha that heals or damages younot a problem at all
>>528863047how were they supposed to know the random chest event was going to fill it up
>>528863050Nobody plays forest.
>>528863047no one expected the chest event to give BP progress
>>528863038laura waltz gremory eachtar chris
>>528863047>people complain about problem before they drop bandage for the problem XDThat's crazy bro
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Haven needs amulet that spawns some wards (preferably shieldmaidens) to make Reno viable
>>528863050They actually worked for the win
>no bane on ghost anymore
but why
>>528862843Foids are jealous of his superior sex appeal
>>528863050Forest is strong but it's too high effort compared to just brainlessly dropping whatever you can play on portal/rune
>>528863038Vania for obvious reasons. If the Omens are coming back, people really liked the x versus y thing they had going on last time so Yuzuki will probably be back too.
>>528862712>All the heals are worse than other crafts.Really? The only healing outside of haven that I know sees play are olivia, ceres, sylvia, and that 3pp rune spell for 3. The first three are just big value cards that happen to have a little healing attached, and rune one is just because they are desperate for healing.
>>528863050Weโll get forest complaint soons. Iโm at D2 and Iโve noticed a rising amount of forestcrafts
I already got roached in SV1 so it doesnโt bother me as much personally
does it take long to get a class to 100 in sv1?
i want the token alt art
>>528863189god i hate ward haven
one of the stall decks that most relies on boardlock from hitting the 1 attack wards (so they dont trade)
>>528863050Do you not see how much they struggle to remove wards without Glade?
>>528863189Just give him aura, then he will be infinitely more stronger
Why does portal get to be the strongest class, have the main character of the game, and have the main heroine as a legendary?
>>528863287if you think portal is somehow the strongest class then you're hardstuck topaz
>>528863258as far as i remember no, the grind begins at level 140
>>528863189I like her, she's already very oppressive.
You bleed 4 chip on the super evo and they either take more chip getting rid of her or are forced to use a single target spell
if you could buff her with aura or pop out wards she'd be even better
>>528862067>>528862390>Match data from high-ranked users reveals that these Aegis Haven decks have a 49.9% win rate and an 8.0% use rate. This presents no issue in itself, but the deckโs win rate is higher in lower ranks: in B rank the win rate is 54.0%, and in C rank the win rate is 56.5%. (The win rate of most other decks doesnโt vary greatly by rank.)https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0123 When every anon complaining about the card was outed as low rank. So they were still posting explanations and some stats here but some time later they stopped doing it.
>>528863258About 10 hours of macroing per class
>>528863050Forest is too hard to play for average player
>>528863047I'm pretty sure the issue wasn't it being impossible to complete but that you had to grind a ton to get 10k points in the first week.
>>528863047it's the same with people complaining about the economy, retards like
>>528863165 think they're experts on a new gacha(yes, this is a gacha) day one
>>528863050Rune actively cheats throughout the game from a mechanical standpoint and Portal has SSSS-tier card quality. They're also obscenely popular because of how obviously better they are than every other class.
Forest is actually difficult to pilot so you don't run into them nonstop.
>>528863228anyone that actually uses vania is not a true oldfag
I don't think even grubbers use that name
>>528862997this is why I always wait for them to actually combine it in case I counted wrong
>>528863456i only use bampy because i get self conscious the other anons will make fun of me
i played on english dub for a solid while
>>528863050Ignore all the replies before, this is the actual reason
>>528863349Wasting super evo on haven on her is pretty risky considering haven really needs those for the kills, sometimes Reno + Shieldmaiden combo can give a win if opponent bricked. Reno is good for the chips though, especially in early forest / sword match-up.
>>528863050Forest has to manage its hand size instead of just infinitely scaling the 5 cards that matter, and it can't astrally project its faries without actually playing them, and can lose everything rushing 1/1s into a blaze destroyer trying to not die
>>528863456It is kinda funny how she's Vania in GBF but I've never seen a single granblue player ever call her that, she's just permanently vampy.
>>528862223A few days ago anons were sending feedback through the ingame UI in the additional menus somewhere.
>play in topaz-ruby
>all my enemies are sword
>enter sapphire
>all my enemies are rune and portal
okay
like it or not forest is the most honest craft in the game right now
>>528863621This is true, but if it gets you into storm kill range it's a good payoff
>>528863660Jap name and she always refers to herself as bumpy though
>>528862953That's the best that you can do? Comparing Alouette to the most hilariously undercosted leggo in the game?
>>528863741Isnt Abyss the most honest?
>>528863679Sapphire and Diamond runes will make you want to uninstall
There's nothing fucking worse in this shitty unbalanced game than getting a Diamond rune player like KMR needs to be raped by fifty niggers for thinking this dimension climb bullshit was somehow okay
>>528863050Topazshitters are retarded and have no grasp of broken shit. They're seething about a super evo destroy 2 lol. Just wait until retarded stuff hits the meta outside of forest.
>>528863258You can make a macro that loops the first story mission of the class and leave it on while you're AFK.
>>528863621it shouldnt be kills you're worried about because you get more damage from super evo'ing her than super evo'ing face. saving evos for other things is more reasonable
Runecucks the only shitters in this godawful game that can have a deck with a counter to literally anything in the game and a free turn but still have the gall to cry about other classes or think anyone deserves nerfs more than them
>>528863679>enter diamond>all of the enemies are forest
I'd be happy with some rune spellboost minions worth dropping on 3 and 4 cost things won't get better next pack
>>528862568it punishes haven so that's something
>>528863989Forest is probably the only way to deal with Rune's bullshit since you can potentially OTK them from full with Roaches and not get robbed out of a win
>>528863964I meant, if you can clear board without her, it's better to do that. If reno somehow stays on board on next turn then of course you super evo her.
>>528861370Honestly, Abyss legendaries will probably be safe for a few sets. Aragavy is just 7 board damage on a decent body. Can threaten a ton of damage on evo if he's not dealt with, and he still can be kinda useful as a for razory claw.
Medusa can clear super evo boards, and if they don't kill her when you have an evo or super, you threaten an OTK. With evo and Cerb, it's just an OTK
Cerb is amazing, but she comes out late. Can threaten a kill with ghost set up, clear a board with super evo while nuking their health a ton and setting up some healing for you. Can go more for healing out of kill range in exchange for damage, but she does restrict you to no 1 drops if you plan on using her evo for focused damaged or healing, since the 1 drop can cuck your reanimation pool.
Like, at worst you may not run them all at 3, but I can't see them being bad in whatever new sets are coming. This isn't like Ralmia(who might get way better if they print more artifact targets for her), where you run maybe 1 copy in your deck.
>>528863989I'm diamond and that didn't happen to me. It's the same fucking with you. Maybe it's a Rune thing.
>>528863050Forest still has to work for its wins
>>528864094no you still get more damage from super evo'ing her to clear boards than super evo'ing something else face
>>528864056I'd be happy if every rune player was lined up and publically executed
>>528863050forest, the thing is that there isnt that many people playing it, so people doesn't complain that much,
but the moment it becomes popular we will be living a real hell
>>528863357thanks anon. that note is peak shadoba
>>528864179Hmm, I forgot about super evo ping, you may be right.
>>528863226Forest is strong but it's fair. When I play vs Forest I know my goal is to stay over 18 health and ward up, and his goal is to stop me from doing that so he can combo out on t8-9. Plenty of interaction.
Portal is overtuned. When I play vs Portal I know both our goals are to beat each other at the midrange game and reach our win conditions, but the insane overabundance of tools Portal has means it's way harder for me than for him. Interaction is there but lopsided.
Rune is completely busted. Its card quality is so over the top that there's absolutely no way even for an aggro deck to get Rune from 20-0 before DClimb if Rune draws his answers on curve, so the only gameplan available is to hope he doesn't. 0 interaction.
>>528861370The fuck do you mean by waifu is playing abyss, zoomer?
>>528863860Hey now just because forest is top tier doesn't mean portal isn't its own brand of nonsense.
Forest will never be popular working twice harder than everyone else
>>528864196truth is the strongest deck will always get complainers. even if its not really doing anything unfair
(like rune. feel free to ignore that if you disagree)
Hello, did someone say Forest?
>Coin Alloute boardwipe into Alloute heals
>>528863785Abyss is far from honest, that removal lego plus cerberus is huge as fuck and it's the shadowverse 2's version of eachtar. No craft is honest in this game.
How do sets even work.
How many new cards will they be introducing per class.
>>528864304Bricking half the time high rolling half the time
>>528864253>When I play vs Forest I know my goal is to stay over 18 health and ward up, and his goal is to stop me from doing that so he can combo out on t8-9. Plenty of interaction.not always the case. sometimes they curve better and you're inevitably fucked. it's just as bad as runecraft, but you don't see the solitaire happening on the board, it happens on their hand until they kill you
>>528864237what granblue character is this
>>528864258Portal is annoying but not that bullshit, I'll roll my eyes if I lose to some orchis shit but that's it. Same as other decks.
The only bullshit craft is Rune since they can rob the game at any point and any turn like a get out of jail free card and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
>>528864345Alloute shouldn't spawn a copy of an artifact it should just rip it from your hand
>>528864380Most honest person in the room
>mulligan my hand
>literally get the same shit back
AHHHHHHH
>>528864484bro your satan and 3th olivia/medusa?
>>528864484stupid sexy evil shota
>>528864484I expect you to impregnate Haven
>>528864545dishonest craft gets a dishonest hand
>>528864484>want to play abyss>hate aggro>don't have 3x medusa>don't have 3x cerb
>>528864583>satanlol
>3th olivialol
>3thlol
>>528864470shut the fuck up portalnigger
>need to craft forest golds to win in diamond
I don't wanna play that shit...fucking roach is STILL haunting me...
>unlocked the steam achievement of winning 50 ranked matches as havencraft
If you don't have this I don't view you as an actual havencraft main and I will NOT take your opinion seriously when it comes to havencraft
>>528864380>No craft is honest in this game.Exactly. It's simply a matter of how dishonest your deck is.
>>528864676stay hardstuck emerald
Do we ever get favela leaders or will they all be battlepass and gacha? Will they add more to the shop? Like I want vampy will there be a vampy event for a free vampy or wills they make me jew 350 packies?
>>528864484Why is his neck so THIN.
What the hell.
>>528864697Did they ever give her a leader skin?
>>528864484This brat needs correction.
>>528864703But no one seeking haven validation..
>>528864720sorry lil pup im a diamond runenig
>>528864670do you even want to win turn 12+ slugfests with all evo points exhausted?
>>528864445How? Forest effects all need interaction on board
>>528864697I wanted to change to old art for nostalgia but her new one is so much better and she looks much happier there too
>>528864748Because none of you play it.
Holy fuck, only 1.2%.
Literally no one plays this fucking class.
Rune is a normal deck and bricks just like everyone else.
Reminder that Jeno can 1v1 super evolve gundam
>>528864857You can't tell these retarded emerald and topaz players anything cant wait for most of them to quit
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>>528864843The old one have the better voiceline so i swapped to that art
>>528864857>1pp spell>8 damageFun and fair
>>528864809turn 12 slugfests against who? haven, rune and sword all have better base cards for those situations and the former two generally run cocky anyway thus bricking me out of my own copy
>>528864857>their deck size goes from 28 to 9 in two turns
Rune is too big brain for me
Going back to unga bunga sword
All my games reach to like turn 15.
>>528864382probably same as now
3 legos per class and 2 for neutral
>>528864445I don't mind forest solitaire because it needs math skills. The average shitter doesn't have the math skills or brain required to calculate the optimal lethal path to kill with Roach so they'll fuck it up and be free wins.
Meanwhile any random newfag from some gachatrash general can pick up a Rune deck and make it to Diamond overnight because the deck plays itself, has tons of 0-cost spells and followers, counters to literally any class and zero decisions to make. Even if you're an absolute shitter and find yourself struggling then you can easily just play Dimension Shift and get out of any sticky situation you might have found yourself in, free of charge.
>>528864623I won.. barely
>>528865013abyss mirror and portal
>always save my evo points for big hitters
>been watching some JP streamers (mainly to learn roach)
>they use their evo points on whatever to keep the board clear
Maybe I've been doing it wrong
>>528865086>because it needs math skills.Big misconception. It just needs order of execution which is not hard, Rune needs the same shit but no one upplays it
>>528865079So they wont make gold, silver and bronze cards????
Its just a new wave of legendaries?
How the fuck would rolling for them even work then.
>>528865086Reminder that there's more forestcraft masters than rune
>>528864484why the FUCK did they use my harvinwife's name on this thing
>>528865018>Runenigger momposting>Poorfag runenigger running on potato phonesI thought it was supposed to be an insult but guess you all really are 3rd world browns huh?
>ๆๅ ๆธใใฆใ
>Gross... Don't act all nice.
Whoever's in charge of these translations should be fucking raped and executed on the spot
>>528864731damn i can't unsee now
fuck you anon
>>528865086hey now relax Rune isn't braindead. you need very high intelligence to play it:
>turns 1-4 doesn't matter, spellboost or throw spells for funsies!! :D >turn 5 A&G>turn 6 A&G (or William if you got unlucky!!)>turn 7 Kuon>turn 8 Kuonmatch should be over by then, hope this helps.
>>528865247>potato phones>when my mouse cursor is clearly visible in the imageI used simple stage in SV1, I'll use it again in SV2
I would promote him just to spite weeb faggots like you.
>>528864857I just don't get why they designed DClimb like that, the thing doesn't even mulligan, it's hard draw 5 so you can burn through all your hand and play it last to refill your hand AND replenish all your PP at the same time ready to pile more on the board. Even give 5 boosts so your 1 PP spell can deal 7 right out the bat because why the fuck not.
Like who thought this shit is ok?
>>528865227they do ofc.
and they too, should have same distribution as current pack
Are mods possible for this game?
>9 win streak swordbab
>matchmaking connection issue
ah here we go, KMR is going to balance my winrate. i had too much fun.
it's funny how you retards whine about decks being too easy to pilot when everything apart from maybe forest is autopilot, and even forest is 5 year old math. just say you want free wins and move on
>>528865328>Double kuon Nice emerald play brother
Portal players
>metafag poorfags
Rune players
>metafags
Forest players
>elitists who want to play the โhardโ deck
Haven players
>sisses/gay/trannies
Abyss players
>pedophiles
Dragon players
>unironically say aura and like solo leveling
Sword players
>if Albert massive fujo gooner/if not new player or mentally challenged
>>528865424Garyu is too slow to be in A tier.
>>528865086It can't be that difficult if everyone is playing it in masters/diamond
>>528865516hey I like solo leveling and Albert but I don't say aura..
>>528865273They've always been like this. I don't know why they do this with leaders. Some get proper translations and some get their personalities completely rewritten.
Daria is the most blatant example and all her lines/personality are completely different in JP and EN. Including her name, did you know she's actually called Dorothy in JP as a reference to the Wizard of Oz?
>>528865406So....How are people gonna be expected to afford it unless with every set they hand out a ton of free fucking rolls.
Even then most people only managed getting the decks they have because of rerolling, now that you wont have that option how the fuck are you going to get all those fuckton of cards.
>>528865424Garyu is just bad Kuon.
>>528861782I demoted from sapphire all the way down to topaz trying to get my last win for my 4 ranked wins daily with abyss.
>been playing nothing rune
>started losing more than I win
>been also playing sword
>feel like I have more control
Maybe I should just give up rune
>>528865516I want to fuck elves
I want Albert to fuck me.
>>528865516shit dragonbros they got us, solo leveling is my favorite animu
>>528865516not my fault eudie, the game's canon love interest, is in portal
>>528865516Abyss bros are we pedophiles?
>>528865424swap jeanne and albert, cerb in A, garyu in B, ralmia in B
>>528865339whatever you say jamal
maybe you can compete on who's browner between you and your leader
is it bad that i mesh well with haven's playstyle than portal despite the game shitting out the entire card pool of the latter to me?
>>528865516>AbyssOh shit I'm playing the wrong archetype.
>>528865424Haven is F tier, ALL the way fucking down.
>>528865590Despite what people will tell you here most of the time they aren't drawing into grea so you just aggro rape them or get raped if you're a rune player. If you take a rune player pass turn 9 you deserve to lose honestly
>runes winrate is balanced because it can brick!
Isn't this really bad card game design
>>528865568I play in Japanese but I always loved her "with a bang and a boom" from watching Kripp streams.
RANKED IS 90% PORTAL AND RUNE
WHAT WENT SO WRONG
>>528865424Garyu is pretty much the worst of the big lategame legendaries since you cant ramp into super evolution. By the time you can use him the opponent can use theirs to deal with him. He should have cost 10 but his super evolution should have been his innate state.
>>528865568I'm well aware since Dorothy is my wife's favorite card and she was fucking appalled at how they butchered the translations
>>528865740There's a long list of things wrong with those classes.
>>528865554>>528865236>>528865213Yeah they're masters for a reason, because they can actually play it. The average retard that picks up forest because they saw the masters players do it will flop and be free wins since the deck actually requires two braincells to rub together.
>>528865641I'm not sure yet. You should post a few more examples first
>>528865740cute leaders that's why
>>528865516I just want to fuck a fairy
>>528865717That's kinda what I've been feeling. Everyone screams about grea/kuon but I've been finding they're so easily dealt with, so is that 8/9. I mean what's even the point of dropping the 0 cost 8/9 if it gets instantly cleared.
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How will Doroshii get out of this pickle?
>>528865516NeutralGODS win again!
>>528865740>1 set outWHY IS EVERYONE PLAYING THE SAmE SUFF
>>528865740Meta and easy to play
>>528865796I fear forest simply because its terrifying when piloted correctly.
I don't care how much skill a deck takes.
No I am not interested in having TF2 sniper in my card game.
>>528865273>>528865568English translators are garbage in general. They always feel the need to be overly creative with their translations, even when it's not necessary at all. And that's when they're not forcing their political beliefs on a show or game.
Translators in other languages don't do that. At least not the ones I know.
>master tries to take abysspill
>immediately drops to ruby
every time
>>528865854there's no better feeling than destroying some runenigger before they can start their solitaire bullshit
I want to play forest so bad, I love the fairies so much. I guess I need to find a few guide to watch as I see everyone mulligan even their low cost.
>>528865726It can brick and it doesn't play the game for 4 turns. Most of the decks have bullshit but people are horrible because they do nothing for 4 turns then complain when they get dropped on by a grea and a full hp rune. Of course you fucking lost apply pressure man
>>528863050>but why not forest?Because Forest actually has to work for it (relatively), and, as minuscule an effort as it may be, the fact that it's there at all is still worth respecting.
Portalkeks on the otherhand will never hold the respect of anyone, bargain as you might.
>>528865854demonic call into demonic call into looking smart into stormy with 3 mana leftover to drop another spellbooster
>>52885850532, this october i'll make It into 33, ita
>>528865590sword bricks less than rune, don't play rune if you can't draw properly
>>528865939>>528865776Should have played the first shadowverse. EN translators completely rewrote the first story of the game but left the JP voices as-is so if you had JP audio with EN text then you were listening to the characters say something then read something completely different.
The story still reaches the same point but the way they reach it is wildly different and it's just insane that these people kept their jobs to do it all over again.
When they release the new sets, wouldn't it be smarter to just keep rolling for the old set?
The best way to maximize as much vial gain as possible is to just stick to rolling on 1 set and only 1 set.
Seems a lot smarter than rolling for a new set where you wont get any vials for a while until they reach x3 copies per.
>>528865939I genuinely believe that most English translators just have no fucking idea about Japanese in general and are winging it
Since their superiors don't check for quality/accuracy they're allowed to get away with it
Worst example of this is VIZ with their FMA translation (Cselkcess instead of Xerxes???) and Dorohedoro (the entire fucking plot of the manga and the personality of most characters were missed due to mistranslation)
Would genuinely kill everyone involved if I could
>>528865952The deck falls flat if you don't see your godwood staff so they're hard mulliganing for it
>>528865976rune's only understatted early follower is the penguin, it can trade with everything else on board
>>528866109depends on what leaders you want.
>>528866109If you need cards from the new set, you are going to be better off opening the new packs unless you are only a couple of vials away from what you need.
How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>528865978>Portalkeks on the otherhand will never hold the respect of anyonePortal isn't that bad, there were a lot of SV1 expansions where they were mid or plain bad compared to other classes. Rune has always been absolute aids in every SV1 meta and I think this general doesn't hate rune enough but all of you will definitely learn.
>>528866128So it's a priority to get out then? It seems like they only hold fairies if they have roach in hand otherwise they burn them as much as possible. Watching these Jp streamers basically OTK people while they're at one health is insane.
>>528866192I twilight dra-
oh wait I can't because I didn't find 3 pieces of ramp.
>>528866192Divine Thunder into Apollo
>>528866192I play forest so top left
>>528865939The Western localization/translation industry is plagued by low standards and a general lack of quality. This is partly due to personal agendas of localizers, but also because management in general does not give a fuck about the quality of the translation. It takes too much extra time and overhead to assess something that nebulous when all you care about is the bare minimum viable product. Combine that with the fact that the average consumer also doesn't place very high emphasis or even awareness on the quality of a translation, and this is the shit show we're stuck with.
>>528865939you're not wrong but a lot of people who complain about translators and post their shitty n5 or mtl take are just as retarded as the translators themselves
you've really gotta just learn japanese yourself because you can't trust fucking anyone else to know anything
Is 300 sparks the only way to get a leader?
>>528865978Yeah well people who worry about what others think of them are insecure.
>>528866190Except majority of the cards you will be getting from the new set wont be the cards of the class you want.
It'll be from a wise assortment of classes.
And worse of all you wont get any vials.
Seems like the go to plan is to just spam the first set and produce a ton of vials and finally get what you specifically want from the new set.
>>528864848why china always gets nice things that we dont?
>>528866281They have a .06% rate to drop so pretty much
>>528866281you have to luckshit or, failing that, save up a very very long time to guarantee you get the one you want
>>528866214Yes, the deck doesn't work if you're just playing shit on curve. I'm happy to take some chip damage to put godwood staff out early if I already can enable May or Fay for a swing turn on turn 4. I spend fairies if it enables me to do more chip damage or I already decided that I got enough fairies for the next couple turns to do what I want.
I hope portal gets nerfed so I can vial this mediocre deck and play abysskino
Holy shit Abyss feels so ass if I don't grab the sneks
At which point it becomes fun, but it hinges completely on that huh
Don't like cerb being 8 instead of 5
>>528866192orchis futa cock rape
>>528864857>can brickBrick less than every other craft, same for Portal. Not how it works. Kuon and Grea are too game breaking even for this game, Orchis as well. If they don't reduce the powerlevel from the cards in this game, it's only gonna get in a more atrocious state, the game just launched and it's already bullshit, the tutorial shows you the over the top effects in a single card right off the bat. They'll need to get the balls to change every card or double down and the game plays for itself.
>>528866175Rune ability to trade is incredibly poor which is why they often get run over by aggro see
>>528865854 and many more examples. I'm not saying its a fair but it is what it is when it comes to this deck
>>528866278I agree with your second point but the first isn't really relevant here. There are always going to be DunningโKruger retards but that doesn't change the fact that most translations ARE actually abysmal dogshit and totally worth complaining about
The bar should have never been this low
>>528866356we got farin and dietrich
sucks that we didn't get neutral leaders but we take what we can get
they should add farin as an alt style to kuon
>>528866524>by itself>>528866453I doubt they'll nerf anything, it's just how they want the game to be. I think instead of slowly raising the powerlevel they'll just go fast forward crazy.
>>528866192People don't realize you need 9pp for this and by that point a lot of board clears have already been expended.
>>528866434I guess I just need to play more then. I feel like I'm really close to getting a hang of it I'm just missing that "ah-ha" moment. It would be nice to face something other than fucking portal 99/100 games though
>>528866490not sure if I shuold use a globe on the coom chalice...
Man, you really just don't get a lot of pay off for ramp dragon even if you hit everything perfectly.
Do I gain anything substantial from playing story mode.
>>528866727you give 400 rupies to the person whose code you used
>>5288667272k gold
some cosmetics icon sleeve I think
>>528866713>ramp dragon>when only 2 cards ramp, one on turn 3 and another only on evo or fucking overflow
>>528866351You're right. I did some math and it doesn't even come close. Opening base set forever is the strategy if they allow it.
>>528866727like 3 pulls worth of ruppees, a sleeve and yeah thats probably everything.
>>528866727Hate for Driezehn
>>528866713aggro dragon is much better even if its a gamble
>>528866192*checks hand and board*
*no makan+cemetery*
"guess i'll die" and pass the turn
What are the fucking chances that both of my accounts opened premium ralmia from the 4 daily park keys?
Good thing I can't see my own winrate otherwise I would have quit out of depression.
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>>528866278This is also true. It's ludicrous how many people think they could pass N3 because they watch a lot of anime and know a bunch of basic words or phrases, when in reality they've never actually studied basic grammar. Those very same people are also extremely opinionated when it comes to what books and methods are good for learning Japanese.
Kinda pic-related. Thinking he can give people advice and answer questions when he doesn't know the absolute basics.
>>528866679Portal is a pretty 50/50 match up once you get the hang of it, it basically depends on whether they use Alouette on turn 5 or not.
>>528865568i didnt need to know this, what a bummer
>>528865178Saving evolves when playing forest is dumb
>realise only after I played out my turn that I missed lethal and gave the enemy a free opportunity to kill me
>he didn't have lethal
>I win anyway despite being retarded and letting him live an extra turn for free
tfw
>>528866192Sword illustrates the stupidity of this game.
>flood with ward>get wiped>flood with ward>get wiped>flood with wardFor almost no pp cost. If you can't respond every single turn and keep somewhat a board or a follow alive while doing so, you're dead.
>>528866713Just play face dragon man, you can't even outpace Portal with ramp in midgame and lategame you get folded by Rune.
wtf, with this card
did those 4 * 3/2 really needed to have rush???
is basically cerberus in a gold card, with taunts
>>528865178I noticed all the ultra high ranked jp players are always burning evos by like turn 7
>>528866590>Rune ability to trade is incredibly poor>Dykes to clear board into another dykes to clear board>Everything is spellboosted to shit now>Either plays Kuon and smashes face after clearing your board again, or to save them for a little later, a Will.They trade like a motherfucker, their only weakness is very early they don't have the best early game. Aggro is good against them, but the dykes stop that, and if they have that healing spell you're fucked.
>>528866713Super evolution fucks ramp dragon because they just lock important shit behind it so even if you ramp super hard you cant benefit from it until it's designated super evolve time.
>>528867003Good thing it wasn't against Portal, I am correct? If you misplay you're pretty much done.
>>528867003Had this happen to me when I forgot that super evo deals 1 dmg to face
>>528867080This card basically reads "If your enemy doesn't have a board wipe or targeted removal in hand, win the game".
>>528866957I've never not seen a portal have Alouette on T5. That deck never fucking bricks.
My negro, please just read and don't face me
I don't even feel good about this
>>528867080>8pp>doesn't instantly kill youInto the trash bin
>>528867080the worst, is that cerberus needs super evo to summon the 2 extra 2/1
>>528867080Eachtar if he was honest.
>>528867080swordfags will continue to downplay
My rune deck has 3x grea 2 kuon 2 dshift 1 coc
Which is better, another kuon or another dshift?
>>528867159It was against portal, actually, while I was playing as midrange abyss. He had a surprisingly puppet-heavy deck given that he was also kinda trying to build artifacts as a side gig.
>>528867080>not tied to evoevery single tied
>>5288655877 mana kuon doesn't out garyu
>>528866713Garyu has worse clear and damage than orchis and is a side grade to kuon who also advances your gameplay by a lot while costing 1 less...
>Nerf Oracle
>Nerf Roach
>But buff Wind Blast
This is bullshit.
>>528867080reaper is a massive brick but for shit like this it's necessary since good luck clearing all that shit as abyss
>>528867331dont forget nerfed soul conversion
>>528867264You need Kuon to stabalize, meanwhile you have half of the game to draw your first dshift.
>>528867174Dumb dragon player, probably a shadow player playing Dragon. You can safely trade with Abyss's board without a care in the world. No need to rush as hard as against other crafts.
>>528867331Pet class.
Also don't forget:
>nerf soul conversion>delete all blood mechanics from the game other than retarded self-damage without payoff
is there really no draft mode?
literally best aspect of og SV and they axe it
>>528867384Depending the matchup you want a dshift in your hand by turn 2-3 assuming you aren't getting fucking by aggressive decks then you just go next
explain how you shitters are losing early to rune, the deck only works after 6 with board clears, and at that point you should have them low enough to end with an evolved storm follower or something. do you literally trade everything rune drops like retards?
I win way more often with portal than I do with rune. Rune is you either brutalize them or hard brick. I don't think portal is capable of bricking
>>528867402It's coming with the first expansion in a few weeks. There probably weren't enough cards in the base set for it to be fun.
>>528867402They'll release it next year.
>>528867402wait until august when the third set drops
>>528867402will be in the game later when there's more cards
speaking of they should've just made the first set twice as big instead of having a shadowverse 2 actually be shadowverse classic
>>528867392That's a good thing. Blood and Shadow are living tumors, everyone know even the greed company with their slop cash and out scam second game.
what's the matter, shitcraft? i'm still not dead after 3 alberts and you're out of cards after wasting all of your disgusting wardspam?
i know you need the chests too so you can't concede, guess you're going to have to wait until the last second before i end your misery you stupid WHORE!
I think anon took a picture of me just now...
>>528867463that's why I'm saving all my gold, I'll go all in on draft
>>528867519>abyss fag getting uppity since it's very rare for him to winSAD!
>>528867463First expansion is that fast? I already paypigged for the base cards
>>528867454>play follower>gets wind blasted, homeworked, a&g'd, taken out back and shot in the head
>>528867519i hope you spammed the muda emote
There was literally no good reason to combine shadow and blood into one class.
>>528867490It will take a long time for Rola
>>528867080if im at the point of playing this, ive probably lost
>>528867648KMR just hated bloodcraft and this was his last fuck you before retiring.
>>528867519abysskek finally getting his one win for the day after several hours of matches, colorized
>>528867637i spaced 6 of them out over the course of 2 rounds
>>528867345Your medusa and cerb bro???
Reaper deathscythe is still a massive brick, removed all of them from my abyss deck
Wow fully animated eudie is kinda...
>>528867673I thought KMR petcraft is Blood?
>>528867519should rage of serpents for the finish
>>528867519estrogenized post
>>528867080yes, downplaying swordfaggots have the most busted free do everything cards while they cry about a super evo destroy 2 lmao
>>528867716Medusa only clears 3 wards, leaving behind the slut and another ward.
>>528867568that's a compliment!
Forest is fucking trash, I'm losing to emerald ranks in Park while I'm a Diamond rank in A
>>528867716>medusagets cockblocked by all the ward in the way
>cerbwithout super evo don't even try and even with super evo you HAVE TO take two 2/1 (if it's even your first cerb) or else gamble on whether you can cleear
>>528867736The petcraft was always rune.
Will the new expansion have 3 urs for each class again but that sounds absurd to keep up f2p unless youโre constantly lucky
>>528867080>entirely wiped by super evo apollo
>>528867519The thing I can appreciate here is you get into the character. Maybe that Leader can move away from the former craft's identity, which would be a great thing.
SHADOW AND BLOOD ARE DEAD, Abyss is a different thing. Beating Sword, Portal and Rune with that Leader and that attitude I can respect.
>>528866192RUNESISTERS GET DOWN
AAAIIIEEEEEEEEE
>>5288678682 per expansion.
>>528867868eehhhh just get lucky?
>>528867859rune is their "MTG pro" designers petcraft
>>528867830Please don't be so rude for the sake of the rest of us thank you
>>528867490next and next next expansion
>I want the shota abyss leader because anything is better than a literal animal
>I think spending money on gacha is cringe
What do?
>>528867831playing forest is a constant uphill battle, there's fuckall you can do without lily and may
>>528866835Yup, yup seems braindead obvious.
ESPECIALLY when we already have some leggos at x3.
It just seems clear to keep rolling for the base set and make everything x3 and then we will finally get what we wanted which was the ability to break down all cards into vials regardless of classes.
>>528867896>s-super evoswordbrain thinks evos are free since he's used to never needing to use them
>>528868002Who? Go back to your old game.
yeah, im just gonna start playing haven now. Im sick of these portal mirrors and this deck
>>528867770>>528867846usually i have a cemetery on the field so i can get at amalia.
>>528867040Reminds me of that one swordfag who was complaining yesterday because rune and other decks had "too much removal" for his taste, nigga you setup a board from 1 card in hand every single turn why aren't other decks allowed to break it
Forest is the petcraft cause elf maidens should be the owned property (pets) of human men
>>528867939thanks for your input, i genuinely appreciate it
>>528867896>implying they didn't super evo the bitch too
>>528867831You are bad at the game, simple as
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>>528868075You're just a good player, Anon.
>>528864380>No craft is honest in this game.You say that again to my Haven face
>>528868005it is acceptable to spend up to the price of a regular game. but also why not luna
>>528868106Cemetery only clears one more ward, anon.
>>528866835If we ipen base set forever then we miss out on the cooler gacha leaders like fileneโฆ
>>528868106when the fuck do you have time to put it down and not immediately use it to stay alive from the constant on curve board vomit?
>>528867648esl dragoncuck is vindicated
>>528868002erm no thanks
i'm only nice to people who deserve it
>>528867763Lobby gonna be poppin' once we get the Eudie visage.
>>528868202>but also why not luna>$20 for just a leader with nothing elseIt's a much worse deal than the battle pass and so feels even more cringe.
If I was just lucky, I'd get Cerb f2p and that'd be it, but right now I'm stuck playing as a stupid animal and that sucks.
>>528868202>but also why not lunaWhy would I buy a $20 scam asset flip when the BP partially refunds itself on top of giving a shit load of other gibs? Are you stupid?
>>528867080real surprised to see that anyone agreed with this, obviously cerb is a million times better for burning and healing
what is wrong with you guys
>>528868207Clearing out that one ward gives medusa and cerberus the reach to take out amaliaโฆ
>>528868230Anywhere between turns 3-7? Do you run aragavy? He resets all board vomit
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pain
>>528867519bonemanced...
but more like why is he playing rusty
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>>528868229Eh, if there is a leader you want, you can crack that set.
If Liza was in 2nd set, I would open that, but base set otherwise.
>>5288683983 copies of aragavy and apollo aren't enough to clear all the shit they put down and even if they do they just board vomit the next turn again, when exactly is there 3 pp worth of spare tempo in a single turn to fit anywhere in there?
>>528868502why did they remove the lose text when it would do jackshit
>>528868502abloobloobloo poor little Timmy cant win with his t1 netdeck :'(
Got every chest so far and every green one was 50 vials. Definitely worth the effort!
>>528867331>>528867392Nerfed Razory Claw. Turn it into 2 cost and a gold card so not all can run it.
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>97% positive in 1040 reviews
See, it's not so hard to get good reviews from the getgo.
Still doubt this game will remain popular in the west.
>>528865641Throughout human history until literally less than 100 years ago this was perfectly normal.
>>528867519Couldn't have been me, I would've packed your ass up by turn 7 with the Kagemitsu respawn.
>playing abyss mirror
>the other player is a retard who runs bats
>he loses solely because his cerb reanimates two useless bats
Pottery.
face is the place bros...
>>528868005First off Diawl is cool, second I think it's weird to devote hours and hours of your time to a game and then act uppity about spending money on it.
>>528868398There are 4 wards, anon...
Medusa clears 3, crypt kills one more, Amalia remains.
>>528868321We were talking about Medusa.
>>528868670Razory Claw was always a 2 cost and the new Razory Claw is sometimes better in 1% of games because it deals damage to the enemy before it does damage to you.
>>528868681>P2w in non-pvp games being generally regarded as acceptableWho could have thought
>>528868684damn what a coward just say yes like everyone else
>>528868837thats always how card games have been though, what makes this different
>>528868340bro, is a legendary that you need to super evo and even with that the minions are worse the ward is easy better than 2 heal and if you think 6 face dmg is worth being a legendary and having to super evo it then shark is broken as shit.
just as a plain card that shit is better than a plain cerberus
>>528867080It's basically just meant to stall one more turn for an Albert finish
>>528868827>First off Diawl is cool,>a retarded animal that can't talk and has indistinguishable emotes>cool
>>528868294Why would anyone play Luna or Urias? It's not shadow or bloodcraft. They shouldn't even have added the old shadow/blood leaders.
>>528868910shark doesnt clear the board
if orchis trades one evolve puppet she only does 5 face
kuon does 5 face
garyu does 5 face
cerb does that and heals on top of it
ward is never better than healing
>>528868834Iโm gonna be honest I thought amalia always summoned three knights because the ones Iโve seen always overflowed the 4th knight because they had some 2/2 knight shitter leftover on the board from coachman or kage
I see what you mean now. Amalia on an empty board is not possible for medusa
>>528868837what
Uma musume is a giga sweaty pvp fest what are you even talking about
>>5288690404 wards is better than 2 healing
i will not respond to you anymore swordnigger
>>528869020I'd buy bampi if she was 2500 rupies, proportional from the 500 rupies of SV1.
>>528869049but also if you let them drop her on an empty board you deserve to lose
if anything she isnt good enough, she really is just a stall tool for albert and a vaue tool for once you run out of evos
>>528869107its not better than 6 healing because guess how much burn amalia does?
>>528868837You do race against other players' umas though. The runs to train your uma are single player, but the main events are all pvp, and without paying a lot, you'll get your ass handed to you.
New umas, new support cards, levelling all of them up to the max, which requires pulling the same support card 5 times, etc. And even then, RNG will fuck you a lot of times.
It's way worse than Shadowverse overall.
>>528868813Can I have a match with you? I have a board hate deck but the sword players I face just concede after the first apollo
>>528864857I want an amulet or a crest that pings the opponent for 1 HP for every card that enters their fucking hand.
>>528868983Yes, it's cool to play as the monster or weirdo. Not everyone needs to be a douchebag or cute girl spouting one-liners.
>>528869161For what? There's no craft for her. It would go into the void.
So you automatically lose if you don't draw roach?
Non-consensual sex with Dreizehn.
>>528869220this but every follower they put on the field
>>528865005It should do 4 damage if their spellboost is above some target X value. There, I fixed it.
>>528869205sure meet me in the lobby at the shop. don't expect much though, pretty sure it was mostly luck!
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Honestly is there any way expansion will fix this game, or should I go back to SV1 take two and custom games?
So why is nemesis allowed to have this card?
>Shadow merged with Blood and the leaders are competing for space
>Shadowverse has become more waifu oriented over time
>Large waiting list of legacy leaders people want
>Cygames is larger and has a ton of properties to pull from
My leader is not fucking returning.
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Anyone got some tips for playing rune? I've been trying to climb with this but lost my last 5 matches in a row to Portal/Sword/Face Dragon...
>>528869337Alright see you
>>528869281Unless they let your fairies hit face over turns for no fucking reason then yeah
how am i supposed to grind my 5 chests and reroll in uma musume at the same time
>>528869418oh no... you're retarded... im so sorry
>>528869418>only 2 sagelight>only 2 demonic call
another free pack, another one of those
i'm so tired of this faggot, i have 5 copies and he will never get nerfed anyway since he's so fucking trash, guess i might as well dust him now
>>528869408You can get his emblem at leastโฆ
>abyss dude just suicides
forest vs sword is unfavored for sword, debate me
>>528869513They only give you dust back for up to 3 copies.
>>528869513The english site missed it but the Japanese site confirmed a maximum of three copies getting refunded, which just makes sense ultimately.
>>528869418haters will say rune is braindead easy to use, but it's the second hardest deck to play behind roach decks
>>528869549Drop Amalia and watch Lovesign concede
>>528865717>Despite what people will tell you here most of the time they aren't drawing into greaYeah, it's a shame that rune doesn't have room for any draw spells to help with that...
>>528869549It's quite shrimple ackshually
>forest draws glade and sword doesn't draw amaliarip swordfag
>forest doesn't draw glade and sword draws amaliarip forestfag
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>>528869591>>528869583wait so there's no point keeping more than 3?
will they even refund the first 3 copies since you can't dismantle them anyway?
>>528869661It's funny cuz I just played rune for the first time today and even spamming draws I rarely have it at curve.
Maybe I'm just cursed?
>>528869604Amalia is easy to deal with. Amelia and Lum Mage even. Rush fairies are insane
>>528865740Emergency nerfs are required. They didn't remotely playtest this shit.
>>528869712They send vial to your inbox.
Bruh
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Sword is so ass I hate this deck
>>528869418You pray you draw heals and have lesbian couple on T5.
Rune doesn't play for the first 4 turns and Sword/Face Dragon will kill you during it. No idea why you struggle with Portal though, they usually only starts ramping up from T5 onward and Rune has William as boardclear and Kuon for pressure.
>>528869367It has all these tools and still looses to midrange sword and rune
>>528869757Sword is really good
>>528869757Albert on turn 9 and win, wow
>>528869757I wish this piece of shit game would give me amelias and alberts so I could play it
>>528869686>>528869604she only generates 4 wards, they can easily clear it
wait is there not a single protection effect in the game? like cant be destroyed or cant take damage
i guess they wanted to use the keywords instead
>>528869221The abyss leader looks like he was commissioned on fiverr along with his voicelines.
>>528869757I want to put triplets in Marie's womb
>>528869418Watching this might help it even has auto-translated dub. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fwxFnKFWWE
I don't have the cards for it yet but from starting ranked late and playing against beginner Rune players yesterday I noticed they are definitely doing a lot of the fundamental stuff wrong. Like they play one Blaze Destroyer as soon as they can instead of saving them for a big, hard to answer board. The hardest part about this archetype has probably always been the mulligan though.
>>528866109I'm pretty sure that they're going to deviate from how shadowverse 1 handled things, and completely remove old sets from the shop once they rotate out. It's the only explanation that I can think of for why leader exchange tickets have expiration dates. This jewish move would accomplish two things:
>1: Prevent players from permanently investing rupees into old sets as a vial farm and ensuring that our vial income is always cucked by the dumb "you can only vial copies 4+" rule in perptuity.>2: Introduce FOMO for chasing gacha leaders. No longer will F2Ps be able to patiently spend their time rolling on old sets or dutifully funneling anniversary awards into the old set that contains their favorite leader. Now they'll need to open their wallet and whale on a set while it's in rotation to get the leaders.
>>528869337Are you being bricked off your 2 drops or are you intentionally playing around a clear?
>>528869712You get the full vial cost of the copies if the card is nerfed, up to 3. They don't take the nerfed card away.
The systems are designed that the optimal way to spend resources if your only concern is to build decks efficiently is to simply spend everything right away and focus on completing sets even as new sets come out because on average you're more likely to pull 3 legendaries you can vial to craft a new set legend than to pull a single copy of the new set legend, then spend towards strong decks in hopes of refunds.
>>528869549If sword never conserve their evo points and actually play for tempo then forest almost always loses.
>sword mirror matches
>we gesture each other commending our plays and thanking each other
This shit has never happened to me when I fight or play other crafts.
>>528869986if you need over 175 days to decide between a leader/card style/visage that's on you
>>528869986I'm pretty sure it's only there to curb account selling because no one in regular circumstances would need 180 days to pick something.
>>528869408>tfw when can't do it right
>>528869923how many poilnts do you need to get into masters,
You donโt get it how hard it is to decide between being fisted by Cerberus in the park or playing as her as the leader
>won 3 of my last 15 games as portal
>running 3 orchis
It's dogshit, other classes aren't tied to evos and trade with better value or straight up win by turn 8
>>528870102You're missing the point. The point isn't
>Oh no, which cosmetic will I pick? I can't decide over the course of months.The point is that the presence of the expiration timer implies that they are going to remove the entire store page where you can redeem them, along with the rest of the set. Torpedoing chances for newfags to get old leaders, dramatically undermining F2P's ability to get desired leaders over time, and killing off the permanent vial farm strategy.
How does this happen two days in a row? Is it actually weighted to be on the last few chests of the day or something? I'm going to be so mad at this """event""" if it happens again tomorrow.
>>528869986that would annoy as then we'd lose access to leaders
>>528867519>cocky, flustered shota decides to brutally punish swordbitchkino
>>528870089Are we back to downplaying forest again?
>>528870284it's shitty rng, but the last chest is always guaranteed
>>528870254What. Portal is one of the least evo fucked and best at trades in the game.
>>528870070IMO, it's better to keep at least 3 legos worth of vial to create nerfed cards when announced and wait for refund. this way, you get free cards and any copies you pull later will also be a plus to your vial stash.
>>528869223I am already playing Abyss, and she'd be far better than that retarded animal leader it gets by default.
>>528869723You're just an inexperienced newfag. Any deck can potentially just brick and let a highrolling sword board run over them. But Rune's immense card draw statistically makes them FAR more capable of drawing their answers compared to everyone else. You don't even necessarily need the lesbians for that matchup either. William can nuke sword's board too.
>>528869986That would cannibalize the game. New people couldnโt get old cards outside crafting for decks they want to play and F2Ps canโt keep up with the meta shift and leave. That would just leave the whales fighting each other and theyโll get bored from longer queues and skill disparity.
>>528870393Will they be announcing card changes ahead of the patch so people can craft them?
>>528870274feel like that's being overly paranoid but I guess it's not entirely impossible
>won 3 of my last 15 games as rune
>running 3 grea 3 kuon 3 dshift
It's dogshit, other classes aren't tied to evos and trade with better value or straight up win by turn 8
AbyssGOD is so fucking funny
>>528869020I use her to make broke boys seethe, seems to be working.
>>528870284I had this happen too, total cancer
>>528870393theres no way this works, right? basicaly any nerfed leggo everyone just gets for free?
>>528870385yeah play orchis, sylvia, the gold card without evo
>>528870517Or they nerf lower rarity cards to get around broken leggo as scapegoats
>>528870461who knows?
but they announced it a day before maint on sv1
>>528870284>How does this happen two days in a row?Isn't this the first day of the event?
>>528870000ah you wrote it here too. had no time to check the thread during matches!
pic related is what it should look like but as i said after the matches, i kept getting bricked and never drew any. that said i prbly would've not played much till turn 4 anyways because of your control deck.
>>528870450Yeah... I drew william... haha...
Just hit AA3 with honestcraft
>NOOOOOOOOO how could they force me to play the game this is unacceptable!
>draw a card
>nothing I need
>draw a card
>nothing I need
>meanwhile my opponent gets everything
>press leave by 6th turn
>>528870494Love to see it, that's how it should be. They can venture with other crafts but dragon they must submit.
When is the hololive leaders collab?
>>528870315>>528870460>>528870463I hope that I'm wrong about this, but their changes have been downright malicious so far. I'm fully expecting this first set to vanish from the shop come rotation. Maybe community backlash at that point might get them to reverse course. But right now they don't seem to give the slightest fuck about being one of the most negatively reviewed games of all time.
>>528870762Not soon enough
>>528870274If that's the reason why don't regular Legends Rise tickets have an expiration date?
I think it's to force people to pick the leader instead of hording tickets for a class they don't play yet forever and then only picking the best leader they have and other options for the rest of their tickets.
love esperanza's wao line
>>528870883i have Nio and I didnt buy levels, you get BP points from the chest shit
>>528870762Hopefully never
>>528870647Bro... It started yesterday 30 hours ago. You had 18 hours to do the first day.
>>528870883if it was before yesterday's reset maybe, you can get 40 from today
>>528870762>>528870850Hopefully never but they probably will. Meanwhile keep the transitioning going, I know you two will.
Aria feels like a dead card in some matchups, does forest not have good legendaries?
Whoever said Aragavy priotizes damage by who is oldest on the field
thank you
>>528870865>If that's the reason why don't regular Legends Rise tickets have an expiration date?For pack tickets, they can easily convert those into rupees if you're still holding old packs at the time that an old set is removed from the shop.
>>528870623Every fucking craft in the game has half a dozen effects tied to evo somehow. Orchis is potentially a board wipe and a ward with no evolution. Sylvia has two powerful effects played naked and she's flexible on your evolution slots. Alouette progresses your game plan if you play her naked on 5 off an opponent's dead tempo turn.
Meanwhile half of Haven's cards don't advance your game state at all without evolution and they're often competing with cards that have no evolution effect at all but need to do it for tempo. Or you're playing some shit like Forest that runs evolution plays but also has to evolve for damage regularly.
Rune and Abyss are probably the only crafts more free than Portal on evolution resources and Abyss is crazy ass.
>>528871063i had here in there for a few days but never got any use out of here because everyone spams board removal. so there was never anything left to buff with barriers. i'd rather have more pressure form other cards than her now.
How crazy would it be to craft this? I used to main Shadow back in SV1 and really want to play it again, but people keep saying that it's overall a waste of vials...
>rune plays 3x lesbians 3x kuon
>I don't draw a single cerb
>lose
>>528870948Well, didn't miss the rupies galore, park reset must be different. I would for sure notice the ! notifications as I did today.
>>528871019Every forest legendary is "wait for more support" at best. It's just lucky that the rest of its line up is premium. Kind of the opposite of Shadow where every legend is fucking busted but the low rarities are dogshit.
>new set come out
>bunch of new meta legend come out
>can't chest the system with reroll anymore
>>528870791Honestly the only egregious thing in the new system I've seen is the inability to vial everything.
Outside of that limitation it doesn't feel too bad as far as base freebies go.
If we could vial everything people could build their one or two decks each set without too much trouble.
Only other change I would recommend is perhaps revert back to old liquefy values for cards.
But if they truly go FOMO on set that will leave a bitter taste in my mouth.
Might just go back to playing AI in SV1 at that point.
>>528871143>here>heri'm truly a 5 IQ swordbab
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>>528871161You need max legendaries before even attempting abyss right now, and even then it's still somewhat shitty into most opponents.
When is the Nijisanji leaders collab?
>>528871065Wait what? Does the same apply to glade too?
>>528870503current abyss seems more shdow coded.
wonder what archetype would fit Urias.
>>528871090This shit would make optimal f2p hoarding strats even more complicated. You would skip some sets completely, not even opening your tickets and waiting for them to turn into rupies.
>>528871219I-it'll be fine... Surely they're withholding the gibs on purpose because they want to split it between sets... Haha, surely...
>>528871345Yes.
For example
>>528871382 Aragavy will deal 6 to Kuon and 1 to Noble Shikigami.
How long will it take to get 350 packs for a new set for a leader
>>528871382should've killed earlier hoho
>>528871430We don't know what the pity conversion rate would be. It doesn't need to be 500 per pack. It could be 50. I wouldn't put it past them.
>>528871348Blood got merged down because it was always a fake craft. They'll just print enough self damage for value and drain cards on theme and make the original blood mechanics card specific on a few things that're tuned carefully around them so that they never have to make that shit evergreen again.
>>528870252Fisted by? I thought the visage makes you look like the leader you chose.
Is there any way to destroy your own two puppets that Orchis puts on a field?
Like
>Put Orchis
>SE
>Attack leader with puppets
>Destroy them somehow
>Put another set of puppets
>>528871517Very slow.
Your vial resources come from dailies and park but opening packs is gutted.
>>528871657You can do it on PC by selecting them and pressing the Del button on your keyboard.
>>528871609half of the crafts are fake
portal literally has no mechanic now btw
>cant even get my 5 wins with abyss...
>sword cards on avarage are better then most other classes counterparts
>albert constantly forces you to stay >12 hp or have a big taunt in late game
>3 mana draw 2 cards
>5 mana create a board
>le balanced wolfman
You people are getting bellcurved, sword is strongest class atm and its not even funny
>>528871657No, there were cards used for this purpose in SV1.
>>528871757Their mechanic in WB is Fuse.
>>528871161Note that abyss plays nothing like SV1 shadow, It's funny but haven is closer to SV1 shadow now
How is this for an Artifact list? I'm so fucking tired of playing gutted Puppets at 2x Orchis. I'm in Beginner and have no win condition because your deck has one (1) storm card and it's Orchis. Meanwhile even in Beginner 2 every enemy has all legendaries they need and they draw them on a perfect curve.
I do not have a single copy of Alouette, either. This costs like 6k vials because RNG is a bitch.
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>>528871286These lobby garbage drops are peak comedy
>>528871887c-cease! sword is weak, the weakest even!
anyone else have a mental illness that makes them gravitate towards decks like haven, forest and abyss
and be completely uninterested in decks like portal or rune?
>>528871824You just need 11 legendaries, bro.
>>528871161Mukan sucks. Especially if you're running juggler, since then Mukan is a dead reanimate.
>>528871657In the old game Portal had spells or a dog to eat their followers after they've done their thing to free up board space. No options here yet though. Wait for Lishenna in the 3rd set.
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seeing how people will respond to barriers on their turn is always so fun
>>528871928Abyss plays just like early Shadowcraft. The problem is simply that it's even worse than pre-Tempest Shadow.
>>528871303>kuzuha as abyss leaderFuck no. He is okay and kinda literally me kind of guy. But I don't want him as leader. I hope they include Ririmu or Naraka but I doubt they going to put anyone that is not popular. Another candidate are Shiishii or Toko. Unfortunately Kuzuha is most likely unless they actually put more than 1 livers for each craft.
>>528872019>You just need 11 legendaries, bro.i have them...
and still today i dropped from diamond to saphire
>>528871997Playing portal and rune makes you feel like you did not win the game
>Blood has bats and sexy vampires
>Shadow has cool skeleton and zombies
>Merging them both means we get less of both of them
Not like this..
>>528871161Abyss is secretly good, thereโs just alot of traps that people fall for that makes their specific build trash.
How come I could spend 10 turns to make a gundam and I don't even win instantly for the effort? Scam.
>>528872157please elaborate and show me the way
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>>528872116I don't see it. It plays more like worse version of blood
now that the dust has settled, post hauls, whales need not respond
>>528872087The barrier bitch makes me seethe so bad, god I hate her.
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>>528871997I just let my previous stats guide my choices on what to craft. Like if 7 years of OG Portalcraft weren't enough for me to bother with more than 500 matches it's probably not a good idea to waste vials on it thinking this time it will be different.
>>528871161>>528872213You ignore the enemy and go face
>>528872087amelia is shut down by one divine thunder
>>528872206i miss magna zeroโฆ
>>528872206no deck should be able to insta win when you get to turn 10 cuz that would be imbal- oh wait runefags already win on turn 10 LMAOOO HAHAH FUCK THAT DECK
>>528871997Why would it be an illness? It's just a matter of preference, whether it's because of playstyle or because you prefer off-meta decks.
This is what checkmate looks like.
what if we renamed the game to orchis & anneverse
>guild is at 6k/10k
ok we're prob making it to S easily. go guild yippie
>>528872239I crafted most of the Abyss leggos because I only got 3x Cerb 1x Medusa.
Mostly f2p, only bought the $2 starter deal.
>>528872348I'M ASKING ABOUT THE COMMON TRAPS PEOPLE FALL INTO AND HOW TO OPTIMIZE ABYSS DECKS TO WIN IN THIS META
>>528872348>bp 16you are in topaz
>>528872348Wow impressive winstreak! from 4 days ago retard.
>>528871997Are you saying my extremely clingy wife who rank 2nd (or third) in girl who is too painful to be your gf in the whole company is mentally ill? That is preposterous!
Yeah very cool I fucking love tying chests to victories, this is not at all frustrating.
>>528872445>>528872239Fuck, I forgot my fucking image.
>>528872213Hereโs a 25 win streak list. One thing youโll notice is that thereโs no bats, bats mess up your Cerberus play so thatโs one big mistake a lot of people make is that they play bats. Theres other stuff I canโt think of off the top of my head but if you like abyss then donโt let people turn you off from playing it.
>>5288724601) put in the heavy hitters and damage to face that you can't evade cards
2) play with face is the place mindset
3) either kys or opponent dies
There's so little meaningful decision-making involved that I feel like a toddler could code a bot that could pilot a deck to diamond group
>>528872239i just play haven rn
would probably sswitch to being a rune nigger if i could get a second kuon
>>528871997Yeah, I do. I thought I'd try and be sensible by going with Sword but found their theme so boring that I slowly grinded the resources to build my Abyss deck despite barely pulling any of their cards. Totally worth it, I lose a lot more but I'm having a lot more fun. Tried making a Haven deck too but I think I'll wait for next set as they feel like they're missing something still.
>>528872460I used this deck to climb from Topaz to Sapphire, still have a positive winrate with it even in Sapphire, might reach Diamond soon. (I have very little free time to play, unfortunately)
This version of the deck is tuned against swordbabs, if you meet a lot of Portal, replace Apollo with Darkseal.
Because this is a midrange deck, in every fight, you need to figure out who's the beatdown. If you are the beatdown, you have to play aggressively and push face damage as quickly as possible. If the enemy is the beatdown, you have to play defensively and outlast them. It takes time and experience to pilot this deck well, I initially dropped to Topaz while learning how to pilot it before climbing back to Sapphire.
>bats are bricks
>wonโt be able to run Bampy with the best abyss legendary
Brosโฆ
>>528872620Give it a dragon deck and play anything that light up and go face
Whats the cheapest non forest/portal deck that I can use to get wins decently?
>>528871910and uh.......puppetry
>>528868294>>528868324so you're gay. that's all you had to say.
>>528858339 (OP)is dragon not kinda mid right now? aggro is just praying to rng and going 50/50 win or lose every game. ramp just has nothing too valuable right now going for it aside from a big evolve genesis dragon if they have no wards up. it's not a one shot.
dragon is... le average?
They can fix the game by making both players win, and one player just wins harder with more fireworks.
>>528872570>25 win streak in emerald>3 copies of a card draw brick>2 ceres and 3 olivia for some reason>2 medusa>2 and not 3 apollo>no mukanlmao nevermind bro
>>528872703Making Cerberus completely mutually exclusive with the bat archetype was the most retarded fucking design decision Cygames made with Abyss.
>>528871887hmmm strong yes but not top tier.
portal eats their lunch
>>528872480>>528872465Nice try.
>>528872460Just place a cemetery before turn 8, then summon cerb on turn 8 for 8 damage.
>>528871995This needs a hi-rez version.
>>528872821the literally already to that
you get points win or lose and youre spammed with evo sfx past turn 4
>>528868681>the getgoRetard, it's four years old. People understand the game already.
The dumbfucks complaining about SV2 assumed we would never get anything that didn't already exist in game day one even though that's never how these games work.
what's rune's weakness supposed to be
>>528872989None, they are the pet craft.
>>528872989they brick once in a blue moon
>>528871887>3 mana 2/1 deal 5 dmg no evo >5 mana 7/9 silver with ward no evo>6 mana 12/6 bronze with rush no evo >stupid 7 mana furry no evo>8 mana 18/14 rush wardis balanced because.... ehh
>>528872229These numbers are basically all before Wonderland fucked things up but Abyss is very much early Shadow. Deathly Tyrant is exciting enough that I took an Atomy/DT deck to an /svg/ tournament live even, but it was not how the deck was typically played.
Shadow was always the "default midrange" deck that tried to out value everything with recursion and cheated stats. Abyss has a ton of cards that're direct parallels to Shadow staples, Cerberus being Eachtar is the most obvious thing, but value oriented play simply isn't good in WB where everything is tempo oriented and the card quality isn't strong enough to make up the difference. The concepts are still there but Blood's the one that suffers the death of identity. They kept nothing except self damage.
>>528872863>Using Mukan when youโre better off saving your necromancy for Cerberus and MummyUhm bro what are you doing?
>>528871932The earlygame seems alright.
I personally don't like cannon and have yet to see value from the (one) Ralmia I run.
Sylvia is a monster of a card.
Doesn't the 10 cost help close games in puppet?
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>had to use 3 dclimbs to out heal mecha lethal
absolutely dumb
>>528872863Mukan is actual dogshit and most decks have cut him entirely by now. He's a noob trap card.
>>528872886It really is. If her evolution read "Summon Mimi and Coco" then we'd miss out on the 6 burn from hand play but Abyss would be in a way better spot being able to run as aggro. Getting locked out of bats kills so many valuable tools.
>>528873085non evo ralmia is actually decent, super'ing her is a trap
>Ranking up on a loss
Feelsbadman
>>528872798Ramp dragon just sucks and super evolution as a mechanic fucks it over more than anything else
aggro is so much better for ranked spam.
Sure you can yoyo from topaz to diamond constantly but the speed of games is way more RP efficient that slow ass regular games.
Even better for fast chest drops
>>528873078Yeah bro let me just completely slot out a card that lets me clear 4 followers (3 of which are guaranteed clears regardless of their health or even barrier) WITHOUT wasting evolve for just 8 shadows
Surely a brilliant idea when sword, forest, portal and dragon exist! I have no doubt that I'll not only last until turn 8, but I'll even manage to finish them off with mummy for the epic win!
>>528873050dolls can't feel pleasure
>>528872989They do nothing until T5.
That's it, pray they brick.
>>528873225but aggro dragon is just praying to god and sending it. it's not that much funner to me idk.
when do chests reset each day?
is it daily reset or some other time?
>>528872823oh shit it's john shadowverse
>>528871997I want to earn my wins, playing OP autoplay trash like portal and rune is humiliating
>>528873284They have just enough removal (deal 2 damage to random enemy follower) to really fucking annoy you before then.
Any tips for abyss and deck lists?
>>528873234I'm so fucking annoyed at how Portal is the most common deck on ladder. I'd rather be facing forest and rune all day, the games are so much faster. I just want to get in and out.
>>528873298Then don't play dragon
in fact, don't play this game at all because balance is already in a terrible place and it's only going to get worse
just look at the absolute state of abyss, no doubt they have no idea what to do with it so they're just going to "fix" it by slapping a bunch of overstatted legendaries onto it next expansion
>>528872798I think ramp is strong but inflexible.
Sword really makes it squirm.
Needs more consistent ramp.
>>528873186You could just change the text to "Reanimate (Mimi and/or Coco)" so the burn would still be possible
>>528873357Mukan takes either an evo point (better spent elsewhere) or popping a crypt (denying you a Cerberus combo) or spending shadows (better spent elsewhere) to remove anything, and can't even hit shit behind a ward or with intimidate. A fucking Phildau is better than that trash, and you shouldn't be running Phildau in Abyss either.
>>528873357Iโm a sapphirefag sir please show some respect.
>>528873234Everyone should implement a strategy of quitting 50% of the games they enter to speed things up even more.
>>528873414I really like ramp dragon though. I will believe in the next set making it even funner even if I am a scrub.
>>528873428to get better, what do I mulligan for? what should I keep in hand and play to?
Andrea stop shitposting and come play
>demoted
>again
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>528873547I dont have dragon myself just going off what I've observed so sdaly can't help with details of strategy.
I just know that if they get their ramp it can be really tough to deal with their big dudes before you've hit your late game.
>>528873348That's where the pray they brick part comes. Most play total of 9(NINE) spells that can draw so the deck is stupidly consistent.
>>528873542Chests never spawn after a quit. You have to win or lose the long way.
rune is literally the jew class
expensive, plays dirty tricks to win and controls golems
>>528873475cerberus combos are extremely situational and not worth hoarding shadows for when they could be used for board clear via mukan/orthrus
you shit shadows out the ass anyway, if the game is stale/free enough that you'll manage to squeeze one in then you'll likely have the shadows for it anyway. there is no game where you simultaneously have to clear board AND somehow get the opportunity to cerberus combo, you won't survive without burning the crypt anyway
he's extremely good in the mid to late game and just because retards aren't running him in their dogshit decks doesn't mean he isn't a flexible card worth having against sword/portal/forestfags
i'd completely understand not running 3 of him but omitting him entirely is just mental retardation
>diamond at B1
>already feeling the grind
How long does it take until Master because holy shit I remember it being easier in SV1
>>528873639it's ok I will persevere
>>528873625Stop sandbagging
>>5288737688 shadows is a fucking lot, anon. Abyss doesn't yet have the shadow generation to cope with spending that much on just removing one extra enemy.
>>528873625god I wish that were me
t. ruby
>>528873815>Stop sandbaggingI wish i was, truly i do
>>528873857that pic is not me
>>528873793about 1600 GRP
They should let me borrow a bunch of leggos from my friends list like in the other gachas
>>528873298It's actually on the mulligan, if the mulligan goes wrong then yes.
>>528873625You can demote in this game?
>>528873793it was not fucking easier in sv1
i did the grind a week ago from AA1 and it took me 3 straight days of pure grinding
>>528873840Orthrus and crypt generate 2 and 3 shadows respectively, with another shadow each when they're destroyed.
bonemancer is 3 shadows, mino is 2 shadows, you could get another 5 shadows from a single cerb if you don't have 6 shadows when playing her and you super evolve
shadows are very rarely an issue
>>528874058when will we get her back
Holy shit my first win with abyss (1 win 1 loss so far) I'm so happy.
I literally rerolled to play this class so new account. Don't even care if I never leave ruby so long as I play abyss.
>>528874107Group can flip-flop.
Rank cannot.
>>528874129>Orthrus and crypt generate 2 and 3 shadows respectively,Both are two, actually. Even if both die, that's 6 shadows total. Still two shadows away from a Mukan!
In practice I tried running him and every time either I didn't have enough shadows to activate him, or activating him wasted too many shadows and sabotaged my later turns. He's terrible.
what's a nigga gotta do to rank up in this bitch
>>528874193What group does even mean?
>>528874275I can't imagine that your winrate against sword is that high, then
There's literally no feasible way to clear most of her insane board presence in the mid game, gravy isn't cutting it 9 times out of 10 and they can keep pushing the offense until you just die (even before albert)
My guild leader is going to kick and lynch me cause I suck at this game.
>>528874297Your matchmaking is by rank and group. So if you're B0 sapphire, you'll generally match against other B rank sapphires.
Rank only goes up and is basically a measure of playtime, group goes up and down and is essentially your actual MMR.
>>528874297If you win a lot group go up
If you lose a lot group go down
>>528872148Vampy leader...when...
>>528874297Group is your actual MMR. Rank is just a fancy way of calling Level in other games.
>>528874297you get matched with other players who are skilled (lol skill ceiling is so low in this game) as you or have as good of a deck as you do. the higher your group the more points you earn for each match
>>528874191You niggers only relied on shadow and blood back in the day because it was a braindead unga bunga aggro decks. It was always about the wins.
>>528874343>I can't imagine that your winrate against sword is that high, thenI've started winning almost every game against sword after I cut Mukan. He lost me more games against sword than he ever helped. Apollo is FAR better against sword than that shadow-devouring piece of shit.
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
>>528871997I don't play classes/decks just because they're good but if the one I like is currently top tier I still play it and enjoy my wins.
>>528873768>>528873475>>528873840I have to agree that Muka takes too much shadows. It's better used elsewhere like the mummy for easy ping damage. If I was using Mukan's necromancy ability it means I'm also losing anyway.
Although if I have an extra cemetery or a live bone lancer on board, I use Mukan for 2 easy banes.
>>528874290some say it's delayed by a few matches
>puppettard got decked out
lmaoooo
>>528874441I was maining Control Blood back when it was on average a 40% winrate deck and the average game took 10 minutes. I took it to GM multiple times despite all of that by learning how to pilot it and tech against the meta.
>>528874449you have to waste an evo on apollo for him to do anything as well, and even then sometimes he's not enough if they have anything above 2 health PLUS he's the only follower that gets to attack for a measly 3 damage (4 with super evo but are you really wasting a fucking super evo point on apollo lol)
>>528874467not 2 of crown? zamn bro wants to brick.
I don't know what the fuck is going on with group
am I sapphire or topaz?
drop go up drop go up again, no numbers
Lobby 21488 is blessed. I never get clothes
>>528874467i crown you the king of swordbabs
>>528874545Your bonemancer skeletons, bro... You can use them to chip enemy creatures down to 1 hp.
In practice Apollo saved my life so many times he's one of the best cards to run against sword, feeling far better than Mukan every time I play him.
>I-I will drop my yuri-ack
>24 wins in AA Diamond
>cannons
The fuck?
>>528874624why not both? realistically your bonemancer skellies are NOT surviving jack shit if the swordfag doesn't want them to, come on
>bats
>ghosts
>skeletons
this should be abyss' gimmick. just give it a gajillion types of shitter tokens
Man, ignoring the first two accelerated sets, I just dunno if 2 months between every set once we stabilize is the right pace. I guess it's better than mini expansions though.
>>528874710you dont combine early right anon?
>>528874191I love the Cerbussy leader's vacant brainless expression.
>>528874729And yet in practice Apollo turns around games for me all the time, while Mukan is a dead card that always feels like shit to play and usually loses me the game when I do play him.
That's why I run Apollo and cut Mukan.
>>528874538>scarlet>spawn"control" more like aggro on asteroids and everything together
>>528874710Donโt tell me you listened to /svg/?
>>528874795I was running 0-wincon CBlood most of that time, anon, just stalling the game until the enemy decks out or concedes. I only included spawn out of necessity when the ladder was 50% DShift because otherwise I'd just die against them.
>>528874710>drop cannon>JO fusing
What the fuck do I run if almost all the decks I run into are portal and I rarely see rune or forest
>>528874710cannon is fucking dog shit in some matchups but ok in others
just mulligan it when it's bad lmao
>>528874872Tier 0 every season dudes deflecting to rune as cause and effect, that's a classic.
>>528874857Cannon just feels awkward at times and is a do nothing versus some matchups like haven
>>528874710If you can't land 3 shoots in a row on Anne you don't deserve to be diamond
How the FUCK do you win on turn 7 with forest
>>528875063just do 10 damage
you did aggro them down early right?
>>528874991I'd definitely shoot a load on Anne three times in a row
>>528874981On a related note, 0-wincon CBlood mirrors were by far my favourite matchup in SV1.
It was an actual thinking man's matchup as every card you draw brings you closer to losing the game by deckout (which most of those games ended with), but if you don't draw cards, your enemy will just kill you with random threats like Temptress Vampire.
In other words, whoever draws 1 card fewer than the enemy while remaining afloat wins, making for very strategic gameplay.
The average mirror game lasted 20-30 minutes, though.
>>528874710Are you blind, that's Portal. Portal most of the time run that, they just don't feel the need to use it, it's just a x2.
>>528874710Here's the thing, it doesn't matter how strongly someone words something or how convincing they seem, if they won't post rank or results to back it up, throw their opinion in the trash.
No one knows the meta yet, the game hasn't even been out for a month. Play what's fun to you and be the first to discover things while the rest of the shitters get their opinions from others out of fear of being judged because they don't know what it feels like to try and succeed.
>puppet portal keeps roping me with horrible connection to boot
>I'm completely bricking too
>superevo a Ceres trying to heal out of lethal for their incoming orchis
>she lives 4 turns and wins me the game because opponent can't seem to comprehend barrier and forgot about bane
lmao, weirdest win I've ever had
>>528875171Now that you mention it, that's how it went down for every mirror battle in the game.
I feel like Portal completely abandoned the gundam play, they just intent to win with orchis, but they're very capable of switching game plan if they want, which is where the amulet comes down.
>>528870252Donโt forget the card art and lobby screen, thatโs what Iโm leaning towards right now since I already paypigged for Luna leader.
>>528872973Retard. People understood SV too.