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>Official site:
warthunder.com/

>Fan created content:
live.warthunder.com/

>Wiki with info on tech trees, weapon systems and game mechanics:
wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page

>Old, better wiki:
old-wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page

>Old forums archive:
pastebin.com/EyMhsLAJ

>Guides to Air and Ground battles + MEC:
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742852313
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgHbWlSjefFhCqOUeGpoKQntdQDPG32X7XQo9EqDF00
old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/438251-strategic-tips-for-ground-battle-maps-36-maps-90-videos-as-of-28august2020

>Guides on missiles, radars, radar warning receivers:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weghk_2DpfA
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tQ6JzPWEFU
youtu.be/DOGazUgUdsQ
youtu.be/wAtTS8xSYEc

>Guides on how to evade missiles and survive top tier:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsmGiyODPuM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUJJ94NwH_g
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CAN_Mo2d74
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbKcAdLoWDk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYfNbDZw5J8

>Guided weapons statistics:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SsOpw9LAKOs0V5FBnv1VqAlu3OssmX7DJaaVAUREw78

>What tanks have thermals and their generations:
thunderview.net/thermals/

>Someone sending you runes?:
translate.yandex.com/ocr

>Player, game mode, and vehicle stats:
https://statshark.net/

Reminder: Gaijin killed their big 25 update lmao.

Thread theme: https://youtu.be/9Rhhi3SnQzE?si=i_flFbddxWt6E4jj

Should I buy the RDF/LT?

>>528909369
what did they do to missiles in arb?

>>528909496
it's not bad if you have an 11.7 lineup already
>>528909561
broke proxy fuses and multipathing so they just sorta dont work

catch my vikhr...

>>528909561
If a missile doesn't achieve a direct hit and has to proxy fuse, it does no damage.

Should I get the Christian II?

>F-2 is a nothingburger
>all new battleboats suck (not the SOVLiet one)
>T-72B3A isn't the M model, therefor, trash
>premiums galore
based update

>>528908708
>Thank you kind Sir. How do you find these releases? You just stumble upon them or you have some info channels that send those your way?

I don't do anything of the sort, I'm just a user. But yes, people just stumble upon them, share them with the community and at one point it just gets added to the CC pile.

>>528909496
do you like rat vehicles?
if yes and if you like top tier you could do it.
if you don't know how to rat properly I would advice against it.

French HEAT is so good. Everyone else was too stupid to make it work with rifled barrels

The new swiss attacker seems pretty busted for 2.7

>>528910483
in defense of other nations, it was simpler to just use sabot, frog invested a shit ton of effort to research how they can make HEAT shells go far and fast

Legit cant believe how fucking stupid the new Russian Battleship is. 16" Soviet/Italian Gun Tech clearly far superior to 18" Japanese Gun.
Why the Italians didnt consider using these guns of their own ships is completely beyond me.

>play top tier NATO tanks
>do relatively well
>play top tier tanks Russian
>play like absolute dogshit
Why am I like this?

>>528911149
different play styles mayhaps

>>528911149
ummmmmmm le russian bias o algo

>>528910969
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it checks out.

https://wiki.warthunder.com/jacob_de_marre

What happened to the gypsy mig's radar? It's the same as the regular tech tree one now

>finally get a map with naval targets
>my naval missiles miss
fuck me, I thought these were exempt from the bug?

>>528910969
Nobody, not even the most hardcore fanboys, can find a reason for the shell performance or the compartment arrangement for that thing, but it's not like people weren't calling out how it was going to stupidly fucking busted as soon as it was announced.

>>528910969
>smaller shell
>carries nearly 40% more TNT filler while barely losing any pen
How is this possible?

>>528912162
Shell velocity plays a big role.

>>528912162
it carries the same amount of explosive its better stuff

>>528911727
>>528910969
>>528912123
>>528912360
The damn thing should come with a degrading accuracy for every round fired, as it wasnt expected that it would be able to fire more than 150 rounds before the barrel was completely fucked, compared to something like 350 rounds before a replacement was needed on a British 15" for example.

>>528912543
Reliability and degradation isn't modelled in this game and no amount of coping or seething will change that. Everything works exactly as intended to the best-case scenario paper specs (except reloads, which are a soft balancing metric).

>>528912162
Maybe it should have been the Russians advising and building ships for the Italians instead of the other way around given the Italians gave comparable penetrating power for their 15-inch shells while having dogshit explosive filler.

>>528911727
Explain this.

>sales are on, all teams are lobotomized
>missile bug
>fly in
>rape lobby
>leave

UPDATE
but no changelog

>>528912798
I'm retarded when it comes to engineering, but wouldn't bottom be slow as fuck with reloading? Am I looking at it wrong and there's only a single elevator to supply all three guns?

HOT atgms fucking suck. They fly up like 100 feet in the air after you fire so its impossible to use at close range

>>528913074
>it's all J-7Ds

Thinking of buying the M1 KVT. I have the U.S. air tree fully unlocked, which strike craft should I run?

The vark, A10, or A7 or the F117

Or should I get the RDF/LT?

>>528913216
I'm also retarded with looking at a picture, meant top. I also meant to ask wouldn't bottom be a fire hazard if a shell penetrates through the fuel bladder?

>>528913520
>>528913216
What really doesnt make sense is how they intend to get the propellant charges from the storage on the bottom deck up into the guns themselves when the bottom of the turret assembly and therefore elevator doesn't even come down to the same level as the magazine deck.

>>528913341
hello fog

>>528913512
do not get the RDF. if you absolutely have to piggie something the AV-8B has a lot of toys

>>528913074
What are you gonna do when a mig gets on your ass?

>fin f-18 can't take the BOL pods with the 120c-5s

how many hours were spent crying on the forums to prevent this

>>528913520
ship fuel is a sludge.

>>528913074
>turns

Nothing personnel kid

>>528913520
its a mix of diesel and fuel oil

>>528913257
no they don't
stop using the amx-13 if you're talking about that, it's launchers are angled upwards because ???

If ships go on water, why don't they use water as fuel, since there's plenty of it?
Every day i'm baffled thinking about those """"engineers"""" that overcomplicate everything

>>528915153
I was using the AMX-13
i couldnt even hit an enemy 100m away

>>528915153
because if you notice where the system's optics are, you understand that it's an obstacle clearing measure

>check Soviet battleship internals
>shells are fucking placed in a ROOM below the turret with no elevator stacked like bags of rice
I'm guessing this means Vadim and Vladimir just carry one 16" shell on their backs and load it in a few seconds hmm?

>have to play to get Squadron RP
>game is literally unplayable with the broken missiles
I think I'm gonna have to skip this one.

>>528915545
they shoulda monted the ATGMs on the barrel then
one on top and one below

>add premium version of tech tree vehicles that are not only objectively better but noticeably better
>keep them at the same BR as the tech tree versions
I'm confused as to why people aren't losing their minds over this.

>>528915789
Bro your Ariete (Plane)? Your Sagittario? Your pletora of F-5A through E?

>>528916067
Bro the .50cal of the premiu M-51 is not that of a big deal, for 35 dobloons let them have it

>>528916092
Right now, I have to play the F-5E FCU to get the F-2A, which with missiles out of the equation is just an F-5E at a higher BR. The fuck am I supposed to do to an F-16A in a full uptier?

>>528916067
lack of serious competition

>>528916067
Pay 2 win wasn't a joke if you thought it was.

>>528915307
you can use them at point blank by depressing the gun but it's very fucking annoying
just get the mephisto, it's a hulldown rally car plus HOT-2's do noticeably more damage

>>528912749
aircraft guns lose accuracy the hotter the barrels get in game, and eventually jam

when?

>>528915691
even the Russians know that their navy is more comedic than effective. they've never had a victory at sea against a peer or even a credible foe. even the Japanese have humiliated the poor retards.

>>528916908
you don't want realistic representation of neither japanese nor german metal material characteristics in the game

>>528917041
Already in game

>>528916908
Overheating is not degradation. For one, it's entirely avoidable with controlled fire in short bursts, hammering it home for new players that short controlled bursts are good and should be used, which is a stark contrast to punishment for just playing the game and trying to kill enemies that would be hypothetical, unavoidable, unmitigable barrel degradation that serves to teach absolutely nothing to anyone.

>>528916067
None of them are noticeably better. The betterness is very subtle.

>>528915691
prove it doesnt work then
)))))

I think im gonna buy all the premiums and not use them then delete the game for maximum profit

>>528918176
*embezzling

>>528917560
:)

>>528918176
stop begging

>>528918462
oh mama mia

>>528917412
never even brought it up

>>528917553
a hot barrel has degraded performance over a cold one
also i think running guns too hot on ground AA does damage the barrels which does cause permanent degradation

>it's entirely avoidable
no need to move the goalpost so soon

>2025
>river is fucking painted on the grass

>inb4 ulq
Yeah, that's exactly the reason to play on ULQ, game looks like dogshit either way

>>528919008
You're too fast, it's not rendered yet.

How do I play bf109?

>>528918860
>a hot barrel has degraded performance over a cold one
And? You can let it cool down, you can't un-degrade a degraded barrel. Are you genuinely fucking braindead to not see the fundamental difference between a sound game mechanic that affects everyone equally and a retarded personal vendetta against a specific country you happen to not like?

>>528919008
>game looks like dogshit either way
Not really if you touch the right things

>>528918860
and you'd never even complain about it either

is this fuel starvation shit a bug too?

>>528919427
is this achievable natty

>>528919362
get above people and force head-ons

>>528919808
What if someone climbs better than me?

>>528919897
hold J and try again in a few minutes

>faggot kraut attacks shilka in leo2a4
>dies
>comes back in tornado to get revenge on shilka
>dies

>>528914017
I missed that detail. The reload time on this thing should be astronomically ass even compared to the Roma.
>>528914648
>>528915150
Thanks, it stood out to me because the other two designs looked like they tried to keep it low which I thought was for safety purposes

>>528919362
Energy fighting
Don't turnfight vs jap and bong planes
Don't headon a burger plane
Simple as

>>528919418
>And?
and that's it
you claimed reliability and degradation isn't in the game; i disproved that

>>528919627
Yes for the most part, but there's some messing around with the Nvidia\AMD panels because you want more pixel density to offset the shitfuck "cloudy and mushy" DLSS\FSR, so i play at 3840x2160 resolution on a 2560x1440 monitor, results are even better (and less demanding on the hardware) if you play on 1080p. Just in case i'll send the guide your way.
Obviously you need a decent PC but it's pretty cool how optimized this engine can be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRWHMMQ545g

>>528920139
>Don't headon a burger plane
if you have nose mounted guns vs wing mounted enemy, you should specifically head on them because you have objective superiority in that engagement, especially if you have stealth belts
just fire before he does and ideally turn away before he starts firing

>>528919427
How touching the right things will solve painted rivers and triangle mountins?

reminder that if you think there is anything wrong with the Sovetsky Soyuz then feel free to provide the relevant design documents that would contradict out version. No, we are not showing our sources.

is the missile bug fixed yet? aint touching the game with a shitty debuff

>>528920710
You can't, but you can offset that to make what it counts look beautiful: vehicles and effects.
If you nitpick on optimization choices is just bitching for the sake of it.
For example, DCS has extremly detailed cockpits (what matters) but even if you put the terrain details at extremly high and tank your FPS, it still looks like shit
>>528921004
Nope if you use missles it's still unplayable

>>528920975
You know the game is full of rusnigger bullshit if the devs assume they are always right by default and they must be proved wrong with sources that they consider prove them wrong

>>528920975
fpbp

When I go to pee, I say "PANZERGRANATE GELADEN" before I fire :)

>>528920139
So what do I do if I see someone above me? Run to the airfield?

>>528921776
dont forget to "ZIEL AUSGESCHALTET" after using the toilet kek

>>528919617
I get fuel starvation if I go negative G force with a drop tank

>>528921671
>they must be proved wrong with sources that they consider prove them wrong
only to label it 'not a bug' and call it a day

OEM manuals are wrong btw we know better :^)

>>528921804
depends on the plane, but 9/10 times you probably need to dive and run to the airfield
add pray that they aren't in a postwar superprop that goes 100kmh faster than you in a dive
(spoiler: they usually are)

if you're lucky, they wont care to chase you down and you can just keep your distance and wait until they dive on someone else in the furball and you can try to intercept them when they pull back out from an attack

Why is like every second rune name's about beer? Is this some eastern 12yo/underage phase thing or what? Fuck happened to vodka, other liquor, moonshine, whatever, why's it always the stupid beer in the name?

>>528922287
or ''classified'' which means we cant use the data to correct the number we pulled out of antons colon

>>528921776
>not hohlladung
ngmi

>>528922342
vodka and moonshine are for subhumans. true sons of ninkasi drink beer.

bought the Type 16.
gonna listen to this while ratting on niggers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwu6YmLEBj8
make them fear the samurai

>>528922692
But it's always some stupid shit like "[place] beer" "beer [thing]" "[adjective] beer", it's not even brands or anything clever or meaningful relating to the subject, just fucking "dude beer lmao".

>>528923107
Yes. Beer.

>>528920109
I think Iowa just used a lot of fuel.
what you would expect from an American

Anon... why haven't you joined us in LowIQ?

>>528923474
will lowiq give me a kigu wife (male)

Can we please buff the reload of the strf 40? Waiting a full minute to load the first shell and then 3s for each of the rest is kind of silly

>>528922318
Feels like a boring playstyle

>>528924127
pretty much

>>528920975
CREAM

>>528924127
well they were designed to shoot down swarms of hundreds of B-25s. nazis didn't have war thunder in mind when building their shit

I'm actually getting so incredibly angry forcing myself to play air RB right now before this booster expires knowing how fucked up having a ton of talismined planes with research bonuses lined up for the F-2

I have never wanted to see a bunch of video game devs get operation spiderweb'd in my entire fucking life more

need a retard explanation for energy fighting

>>528925108
go vertical or something

go fast, stay fast

>>528925108
newton's law or something

>>528925108
higher or faster=better

>>528925108
watch defyn play any p-47

the Jew fears the Samurai

>>528925108
Energy is divided in two factors: Altitude and Speed.
Speed is speed, altitude is stored speed.
If you are at 2000m of altitude flying at 400kph, you have double the energy of someone flying at sea level at 400kph.

Energy can be exchanged for turning, evading and manouvering. More energy you have, more of these you can do.

>>528925731
>watch defyn
This is how you learn to play like a jew

>>528926354
Isn't it the same as F-5C but with better missiles?

How bad is the Japan grind?

>>528926859
Gomenasai

>>528927117
Stop apologizing I just want my sweet 4 second autoloaders

>>528926465
At least you could end the match by killing ground targets then. Not anymore

why the fuck are missiles still broken?

>>528926449
Way better than F-5C (way better engine, way better thrust-to-weight,better missles), but a fraction worse than a F-5E. But the F-5E is at 11.0

>>528927414
They are gonna nerf it after paypigs buy it

>>528926859
It's okay.
Your biggest problem is that your only good CAS options between 3.7 and 9.0 are a BP reward helldiver and a WW2 light bomber if you don't have that.
And that some line ups are soo neglected you will have to uptier some things up to +2.0 BR brackets if you want to have a vehicle of that type.
But once you reach 6.3 it's all good.

I'm new here, why is the HESH video on their channel so disliked?

So I got the Wyvern for my prem maxing BR 4.7 and 5.3 Bong line ups.
I got the Yamashiro cause I am a dumbass that wants to max out Jap naval.
I got 2 Helldivers to sell later and a Fat Hellcat too.
How did I do?
Also I kinda want the Matador since it's pretty rare even tho I have no use for it.

>>528927918
Cause HESH is shid in game. Partially because is shid IRL but also because it's implemented in a shid way in game.

>>528928241
You can say shit, we're all adults here.

>>528929062
Hesh is so pathetic it doesn't warrant real swear words.

>>528929062
I'm only an 18 year old futanari girl though

>>528928087
>I got 2 Helldivers to sell later
whats that?

>>528929190
So, a tranny. 41% yourself freak.

>The Tone class had no aircraft hangar, but there was a comprehensive arrangement of transport rails and turntables on the aircraft catapult and quarterdecks. Two gunpowder-propelled catapults were located on the beam abaft the mainmast. A maximum of four Kawanishi E7K2 'Alf' three-seat floatplanes and four Nakajima E8N1 'Dave' floatplanes could be carried, the normal complement being six, of which four were to be E8N1s. In practice, no more than five were ever embarked.
>ship was designed for seaplanes, has no seaplanes in game
wut

>>528929298
Late in the war, it carried no seaplanes as most of the flight deck was taken up by AA mounts. This is how it's represented in the game.

>>528929241
Stonks.

just bought 3 chink T-80's, this will surely end well in a year, right?

>>528927918
one of the nations don't use that shell
))))))))

>>528929664
I'm convinced the Chinese ground tree is unplayable simply because their teams are somehow even worse than us players.

>>528929664
>He bought
Do yourself a favor and look at the price history for the Hellcanon, Chink F100 and Chink IFV.

>get into match
>hover over the names of the 5 people in fuji
>4 of them are just the 1 tank, 1 has a sub 1 2
>they all leave after first death

>>528929978
a top tier tank should not be under 20gjn, it just shouldn't.

>>528930153
It took the CTV 105 and the Vilkas like 3 years to go past 20-25. The Su-25 BM whatver even longer.
Winter event vehicles are worthless unless they are ships.

>>528930153
test drive the ztz96

>>528930273
the 25bm started with fuckall for load outs. like literally nothing

ok I wasted my money, thanks for the info.
I should have just bought the French m46 this morning, it's already up 10 bucks.

The new Tiger II engine sound is sexy

>>528930460
French M46 will dip again. The main volume of it is not sellable yet. People who didn't buy the bigger BP can't sell it for another week or two.

>>528930837
you're a real hero

>>528930460
Also you haven't wasted shit unless you sell bellow profit.
If you hold till September you should at minimum recoup any losses.
It will gain about 5 GJN per sale cycle.

I want /biz/ to go.

M24DK was a necessary addition so I can roll over sovietgroids even harder

buying more AGScoin just for you

>>528931013
It's a few bucks loss anyway, it's all cool

SCENARIO TIME:
It is the mid 1980’s.
You are one of several mercenary pilots employed to protect a small middle east nation from a Soviet equipped neighbor.
What is your:
- Aircraft of choice (prototypes allowed)
- Aircraft’s mods (be realistic)
- Payload (be historical)

calls on E-100

not war thunder

>>528931494
>B2
>don't care
>nukes

are these fucking apes trying to bug fix with AI now too

what the fuck could possibly take so long you LITERALLY BROKE ALMOST EVERY JET IN THE GAME

>>528931771
What happened?

>>528931771
it's unlikely that anyone who works at gaijin even knows the difference between guidance methods, don't expect a fix this year

>>528931994
Proxy fuse/Blast Radius/Guidance on Air to Air missiles is fucked. Unless you get a direct hit they do no fucking damage.

>>528931230
bought my autismmobile back when it was like 60 gaycoin
>mfw

They should add "nuke" planes that are only ingame for dropping nukes.
Avro Vulcan, Handley Page Victor, Vickers Valiant, B-52, B-2, B-47 Stratojet, B-58 Hustler, B1B Lancer, FB111 Aardvark, Tu-16. Tu-95, Tu-22, Tu-160.
I would also add my favourite XB-70 Valkyrie fuck it

inb4 "too much resources into something that nobody will touch", remember that these vehicles would be used by more players than the new added top tier battleships

What's the consensus on the F-2A?

>>528932797
Stop being racist.

>>528932797
Cannot have a consensus yet because right now everything that has missles on it is unplayable, and if you are playing high tier jets right now you are probably going for gunkills.

>>528932604
>implying I wouldn't pay good money to take out Three Gorges from the cockpit of an XB-70

is this mod ever useful past in 10.0+ BR?

>>528929464
>In 1943, the number of 25 mm guns was increased to twenty, and in June 1944, when the opportunity to use their aircraft had passed, further mountings were added on the flight deck, bringing the light anti-aircraft total to 54 barrels. Two more twin 25 mm guns were also added later. Radar was fitted, but otherwise no major modifications were carried out
>no radar
does gaijin just randomly pick and choose what features is installed in the refit

>>528933204
it's not useful sub-10.0 either

>>528932994
What does this have to do with the Viper Zero?

T80UD is such a cancerwagon
why the fuck does this thing have 11.3 armor at 10.3?
it just click centre of mass against any other 10.3 tanks but other 10.3 have to pixel snipe against it
if the faggot driving it has even the slightest sense to hide his small ass LFP you're relegated to having to try and hit the miniscule mantlet because the turret is beefed up and you probably won't even kill if you do

i hope they fix the aam bug in the next 5 hours so i can grind the plane :>

>>528933204
It looks cool I guess

>>528933216
Naval radars were implemented and started to be added to every ship from there on out later than the Tone was added, and they've yet to go back and retrofit radars to the older ships.

>>528933247
Remember Tsushima?

That's why GCS-1 and ASM-2 can't target tanks.

>>528933139
>The three gorges dam yearns for the B-43 tactical nuke

>>528933380
>clueless
does he know?

>>528933494
if it doesn't get the pye wacket I don't want it

>>528933480
but why was it installed in the graf spee in one patch and then removed the next

>playing naval
>trash ship, can't damage anything at its BR
>try harding gets 2000 RP
New strategy
>bring minimum # of bullets so you're harder to sink
>land at least 1 shot
>go afk
>1500 RP
I think I just solved WT Naval.

>>528933380
they were already up all night trying to fix it comrade)))

Vehicles for this feel?

>>528933716
Can't get ammo racked if you have no ammo.

A properly angled ship with empty magazines is nigh unsinkable.

Are missiles still broken

>>528934014
Rooikat 105

>>528933716
>trash ship, can't damage anything at its BR
What ship? You can always damage shit.

>>528933216
tbf radar doesnt do much in WT naval unless its paired to the FCS which only a couple ships (mostly copestals) get
and even then its a nothingburger for half the playerbase as it only gives you a faster firing solution, which isnt a thing in arcade since the point-click-mechanic was introduced

>>528932797
>early variant is premium only
>no AoA button
>need radar lock for IR ASM
>IR ASM can't track tanks
>no GCS-1
I guess she cute >doe

>>528933204
You can spend 10 minutes building a cuckhole so you look cooler when you get bombed

>>528933204
only useful on rusk tanks to get better gun depression in places you couldn't normally shoot from

>>528932994
honestly do the fucking thirdies think literally every western nation plus japan and korea just got tricked into buying f-35

>>528927907
>your only good CAS options between 3.7 and 9.0 are a BP reward helldiver and a WW2 light bomber if you don't have that.
wrong

>>528926859
jap naval is one of the easiest trees you either get very good torpedos or railguns that always pen under the waterline

>>528935338
I want to play subs...

>>528934416
Old Russian dreadnaughts with 12" guns. They don't do shit against Scharnhorsts and Gneisenau that everyone spams.

Last match I bothered putting in effort, was landing volleys non stop and only did 300 damage and 2000 RP.

Going AFK is a way better strategy. I just got 3800 RP and didn't even have to play this dogshit game.

>>528935338
lol
lmao

>>528910969
The funny thing is per the datamines the Italian 15” has pretty bad dispersion, while the Soviet 16” gets one of the best values in game, despite having the same design principles

>>528935004
That's exactly right.

>all planes sound like jet engines now
not cool

behead kv-7 players

>>528935543
>only did 300 damage
you were awarded 300 damage*
most damage (and accompanying score/rp/sl) isnt added to your tally until the target dies, and most of it goes to the player that dealt the killing blow

>>528935459
the Japanese operated a lot of submarines during ww2 anon. not very successfully...

>>528935543
once you unlock that shell you'll be singing a different tune

>>528935862
bro just 1 shot their LFP

>>528936072
I don't care how they do the calculation.

There's no benefit to putting in 20x more effort by not going AFK. This is a much better way to grind as far as I'm concerned.

>>528936343
The match where I only got 300 dmg was with one of the other similar ships where I do have the AP shells unlocked.

>>528936191
luckily this is shart blunder and it doesnt matter how well something did in real life
if they ever add subs (i hope they wont) i will exclusively play the big gun ones (Surcouf and M-class)

>>528933216
It’s crazy inconsistent what ships get radar. For example Iowa doesn’t get tracking radar, but Mississippi does. Don’t think about it too hard, the devs sure didn’t.

>>528936598
are you that fuck that magazined my saschen from 17km away

>>528936618
I will look forward to dropping depth charges on you from my US army airship

>>528936771
Nope. I'm the fuck that you wasted half the match shooting but couldn't sink because I didn't bring any ammo.

>50$ helicopter
doesn't have cockpit

>>528936918
not if a cargo ship gets me first ;)

>>528937002
jokes on you i'm doing stock grind on the saschen so i'm only targeting cruisers with the SAP

>>528937173
What do you do when you get uptiered? Bring a reserve ship and self destruct 3x?

>>528936191
Bad doctrine. They would have been more succesful if they attacked cargo ships

>>528937332
if its one of those 5 humans the rest AI i just shoot at cruisers and dds
if its a full human lobby i just go coastal and planes

>>528937497
as it turns out Gibraltar and the English channel are a little bit easier to blockade than the pacific fucking ocean

This is cash. I'm getting at least 1500 RP every match for doing absolutely nothing.

How can I get the activity % up higher?

>>528936618
>if they ever add subs (i hope they wont) i will exclusively play the big gun ones (Surcouf and M-class)
I'll play the guided missile ones then go hide underwater behind and island till I reload.

>>528937706
hop in a speedboat for a cap before you go afk in a battleship?

>>528937706
>How can I get the activity % up higher?
you have to hit things

>>528937706
switch to secondary guns so the AI takes care of the primary ones
if that still works

>>528937802
I'll play the k-class and just kms.

rafale is still the best jet in the game kek

My skins
https://files.catbox.moe/sl3vty.jpg

>>528937845
I refuse to do that for several reasons
>don't have any meta speedboats that can fight if contested
>it counts against your activity time because there's nothing to shoot
>capping is for cucks

Though I actually have been capping with my afk strat, seeing as no ammo makes you hard to sink, may as well sail at the point. Might win you the match for extra rp.

>>528937915
Main guns won't auto fire anymore.
AI will shoot secondaries, but they rarely hit anything and don't do any damage if they do. I wish I could bring zero secondary ammo, but the game forces you to take a couple hundred shells.

>>528937173
Based. Playing german BBs is fucking cbt with the shitty ap shells. I had the sachsen spaded before this patch dropped and its so much worse. Up tiers are borderline unplayable since there are no soft target bots to kill for the 10/15k rp bonuses. Scharn is cancer to play there too.

I somewhat doubt that Bismarck is actually going to be particularly fun either sonsidering the horrible br environment, worse ap shell than mutsu and armor scheme.

>new exciting explosion animations for naval!
>damage rework means everyone dies by loss of unsinkability

>>528926859
Its unfournately fun when you're not paired with US and Russia

>>528939527
and the dispersion managed to get worse

>>528939943
>godzilla impervious to modern tanks
>gets killed by a ww2 prototype plane
planes won

>>528935338
Shame the Yamato is a floating ammorack. : (

>>528939943
>spoiler
That's every tree though

>>528939527
Hard to imagine Bismark will be good in game, seeing as it wasn't even good irl or on paper.

>>528940429
Minus One got me interested in the Shinden only to experience how garbage it is, it's fun to mess around with it though.

>>528940918
hows your hood doing

For these maps, does being closer to the center of make your team cap harder? or is it just the # of ships inside the circle?

>>528940970
It's a good plane thoughever.

>>528941209
Number of ships, doesn’t matter where as far as I know

>>528941576
based bkan killer

>>528941151
Hood wasn't even a battleship.

Comare Bismark to the most contemporary US battleship, the USS North Carolina.
For 20% more displacement, Bismark gets weaker and fewer main guns; worse armor; completely dog shit AA; half the range.

Germans weren't very good at building ships.

Merkava Mk.4M is extremely based

>wake up
>still no missile splash damage
lmao

>>528940918
i have yet to see one (all uptiers ive had were wall to wall Iowas and 1 (one) Yamato who ran himself aground)
guessing the Bismarcks are having a very rough time at top tier so it wouldnt surprise me if it goes down at some point
definitely isnt unpopular judging by the amount of Gneisenaus you run into

>>528941209
number of ships
which is fun if the blue bots decide they dont want to get in the circle

>>528941209
No, just stay behind others on your team so you dont get targeted and let some other chump worry aobut getting his shit pushed in by being the closest target.

i saw two gniggers in one match today

both had chinese names

Wait, where J-5?
How's there a Best Korean F-5 in the game, but no Temu MiG-17s in the tech tree?

found this old post yesterday
chinese players pay for ping??? wtf

>>528940103
-Dispersion is worse
-hull integrity is atrocious
-high tier br changes made everything worse and less fun, ruined variety of targets too.
-new ships are a mess - SOYuz is broken beyond belief, Roma is peak anti fun, and bismarck being a functionally worse version of a 7.7 boat at 8.3
-AA is dogshit useless now
-pt boats and destroyers still having cloaking devices and ruining matches with fast caps
Every meaningful change implemented made the game worse, sasuga gaijin.

>>528940918
Don't you have a black prince to take care of rn Timmy? Bismarck is a truly awful ship irl and ingame, how about we start talking about the "updated bayern class" going to 7.3? Surely a ship as awful as the Bismarck can't match POWERFUL and WELL DESIGNED ships such as the mighty battle cruiser Hood, can it?

>>528941894
I've seen one, it was in a 7.3 downtier in a 3/4ths bot lobby and didn't really do much. Managed to shoot my broadside at about 10km with AP in my Sachsen and did literally nothing. Bro ended up in second to last place on his team.

holy kek the knuckle dragging jeets they outsourced the modeling to made this wheel + camo net + fucking oxygen composite on the bong premium pack firefly into a solid block of cast armor

>playing against US/Britain low tier
>kill a guy
>look at his corpse
>he spawned a plane
>30s later hear an engine coming my way
it's almost comedic, still won because CAStards don't actually know how to play the game, but it's lowering my K/D, very annoying!

>>528943417
its staggering how poorly handled anything naval is
>we of makings maps bigger!
>by adding a trillion square miles of nothingness and leaving all the objectives/spawns in the same old areas
>we add new battleships at BRs with fast jets and huge bombs!
>turn AA deathlasers into decorative lasershows
>we decompress
>by moving the most compressed BR ranges deeper into battleship BRs
>oh and we reworked damage mechanics again because its been only three months since the last one
im amazed the spaghetti code that fucked up missiles didnt also turn shells into sternly worded letters

>>528943892
when you see a plane diving towards you just drive towards it while shooting
if the bullets don't throw him off, he will most likely overshoot

you cannot replicate this kill in war thunder

>>528944258
or crash into the ground, that one is even more fun.

The Badger being the same BR as the BMP-3 is insane.

>>528944258
sadly I had a TD kill mission to do, SU-58M and ASU-57 don't have MGs
got my 9 kills tho

>>528944381
did you ever stop to think perhaps they simply got one of their own crews killed and spray painted a v on top of it? fucking racist

>>528944841
T80 is T80 everywhere

>>528944591
fucking gun depression o algo blyat do not be racist

>fargo got an antifrag hull and stayed 6.0
>baltimores jumped from 5.7 to 6.3
>brooklyn 6.3 despite being worse than fargo and cleveland
Make it make sense

>>528942995
Its a bit like an optimized VPN for playing on US or EU servers, where you ping would normally be 280+ms-ish with UU Booster it will drop it to 80-90ms.

>>528944591
It's shockingly bad, apparently it was designed for long range fire but all autocannons (especially Russian) are lasers anyway.

>>528937689
Nip subs were literally told to only attack US warships and not cargoships

applique armor

>>528944381
uhm akshually chud that's an old wreck that was shot at right before the picture is taken the dart bounced back and killed the tank that shot it

>>528945612
It’s kinda funny reading about the pacific submarine campaigns in the early part of the war. Japan is a tale of great equipment let down by terrible doctrine, while America is a tale of great doctrine let down by terrible equipment in the form of torpedoes

>>528945612
Because they weren't expected to survive.

can I buy a booster that instead reduces the number of chinks in my game?

Any words of caution before I pull the trigger and send Anton money? Stats seem good enough and I just need something to grind out CAS for my french tanks.

I know the NF-5A is the new hotness but I already feel bad about handing over $40 let alone $80.

Boy was I disappointed to discover this was not in fact a cool plane added in the patch... : (

>>528946081
kek

>>528946006
Wait until they fix missiles first
No sense in buying it now and wasting the premium time waiting for the only redeeming factor of the plane to be restored to functionality

>>528943417
>Surely a ship as awful as the Bismarck can't match POWERFUL and WELL DESIGNED ships such as the mighty battle cruiser Hood, can it?
Battlecruisers aren't designed to be able to match battleships. If you made one that was, it would cease to be a BC and become a fast BB.
Hood was 20 years older than Bismarck too.

Bismarck is aight, like your moms pussy, but it's not the great ship wehraboo's make it out to be. Imagine needing 20% more displacement to build something worse than the contemporary American BB and being proud of it.

Bismarck is peers with the Italian Litorio class. Don't see anyone fawning over those.

>reddit crying about the soyuz
Why are they like this, its not that great compared to the german niggerbunkers or the yamato

>>528946006
The 2 magics are great and are usually 2 kills for you, the other IR and SARH missiles it has are pure shite though and not really worth taking. Overall if you like dogfighting it's good and competitive, take 2 magics and 2 gun pods.

>528946558
go back

Am I going to have to go back and grind this Izmail piece of shit to eventually get the Soyuz?

too bad naval sucks donkey dick.
if only you could just walk around the deck as the fight was happening, that would improve things.

>>528946954
No? You can see the tier divide right there

>>528946954
No

>>528946607
>gunpods
do NOT do this the flight model is dogshit as is, and the biggest drawback with the two defas isn't damage it's velocity and pulling enough lead

>>528945495
I didn't expect it to be a top IFV at 9.0 but I wasn't prepared for the turret traverse to be so slow compared to literally everything it faces.

>>528946954
no why would you.
just get the 3 from rank 6 because that's the requirement for rank 7

>>528947094
>>528947241
I can see that, but sometimes it makes you go back and unlock more vehicles of the previous rank.

>>528947126
Too late I already did it )))

>>528933204
The rounds end too quickly for this to come of an use. Also the game modes are shit.

when are they fixing the damn missiles

>>528933204
>Dig a hole
>match is already decided by the time you've hunkered down
>a 1000lb bomb lands on your head

>>528947531
ship update chud

>>528947531
They work when I fire them, pidor

Which ship will be more meta?
>USS Iowa
or
>Sovetsky Soyuz

Why are the premium MiG-29 and the Premium Hornets at the same BR? Did gayjin even consider their loadouts before giving them a rating?

>>528948401
Hard to say. Iowa could go up to 2.5rpm but they didn’t for balance. Soyuz is probably better if you angle well but Missouri and Wisconsin have better bulkhead armor and would close the gap there if added

>>528948401
Neither. It will be the Roma.

>>528948401
why are you even asking lol? the Sovetsky does literally everything better than an Iowa.

any homies want to squad?
lonely grinding

>>528948669
i'm convinced someone in gaijin hates mig-29s in particular because everyone seems to have complaints about their modeling br placement ect and i can't really invalidate any of them

r60M simply is not a comparable missile to the aim-9L, and furthermore is also probably placed to low in br on other airframes if you simply believe that to be the case

>>528948757
Roma's going to be extra shit. No way Gaigin modeled the spaced armor filled with concrete for decapping shells. It's just going to be thin and crappy.

this is it
i have peaked
i killed someone with the artillery smoke shells
i can now quit this game
>but i won't

>>528949537
afaik theyve already rejected it
same as documents/articles stating the reload isnt 3.5 eons per barrel
probably still upset over the imaginary frogmen

>>528950016
top 3 maps easily

>Anal Sea
>Trash River
>Crapatians
>Frozen Ass
>White Cock Fortress
>Sweden

>>528949537
>Sovietsky Soyuz gets modeled full Krupp Steel armor when IRL it was multiple plates of lower quality
The levels of Krok in naval are ridiculous.

>11.7
>huge map
>sniped 7 seconds out of spawn
>alt + f4
it's simply easier to not play this cancer game

>buy new tank
>it's functionally useless because APBC

I've been thinking about picking up a nation for naval. What is a fun nation to grind? The Yamato and Japan in general sound fun, but I kind of want to grind for the Iowa.

>>528950884
none of them

what is the new best nation for blowing up mudsuckers without punishment

>>528951003
none of them with the glorious new SAMs, dirty casnigger

>only Type 74 that can go backwards is a 9k gold premium
is this a ))))) and )))))))))))) moment or were the japs really that fucking retarded

>>528950828
>IRL it was
would have been*

>>528950884
even with the recent recompression taken into account, US is still the best for the core BRs and from what ive seen so far Iowa is far from bad
their destroyers fuck with everything and their cruisers are basically the best at most things that matter
most of their dreadnoughts arent all that great thoughbeit

>>528951186
>would have been*
I think the shit plates are some of the things they made before Hitler pulled a surprised butt sex on the Red Navy.

>>528950828
If it wasn't krupp poop it already was superior quality.

>>528951105
Today I will remind them.
https://files.catbox.moe/37pibz.mp4

>missiles broken
>thousands of airtroons suddenly cant play their handhelds point and click simulator
>melty on both steam and official forums
playing air has never been easier

>>528951290
damned thing didnt even make it off the slipway, might have been balsa wood for all i care

missiles still work against me

>>528950884
Iowa is great once you get AP but there isn’t a good br to grind it. 7.x US battleships are really outclassed currently, bad reloads and easy shell rooms to hit. The rest of the tree is really good but the snail has it out for the dreadnaughts

>>528951780
yes they do.
especially premium ones.

>>528951562
not watching that shit nigger

>>528951562
>GermanMainAwareness.mp4

>>528951115
i own it and have no regrets FPS pairing with it was a very enjoyable grind- not to mention you can also uptier the 89 when you get it with no issues

okay now that carriers are in the game again
whats the best payload to kill one for the Achienvement if I haven't finished getting the F-2 and don't have any good ASMs
will just pooping out mk83/84s on the deck with a tornado or something work

??? I havn't TK'd anyone in months
Is this because I keep freezing mid match and have to leave

>>528953608
you got mass reported by someones discord or chinkbots

>>528953109
radar guided doesn't work rn so I cant help you
yes I tried it myself, how can you tell.

wait did they fix missiles?

Does killing medium tanks for example give more xp in air battles? Im trying some ground pounding in my yak-9ut with the 45mm, the hvap belt seems kinda poopy, gonna try aphe next

Which first? Bare in mind, it'll be my first jet

>>528954207
None of them are much good but I had a good time with the he 162
>>528953715
How many more reports til a ban, or does gaijin not really care

>>528954207
Horton so you can play the X Files theme while you play it.

what button do you guys bind your machinegun on tank?

>>528954103
pillboxes > tanks > soft targets
best way to kill pillboxes is high rof 25mm+, but fiddies and such with plenty of ammo work well too
you need AP for tanks since they actually have armor you have to pen, but for pillboxes these days you just want HE aimed into the windows to ill them most effectively
also note that vehicles with the full name rather than "Medium Tank" or whatever use the ground damage models which are completely different and generally far harder to kill, so even if you can easily nuke the simplified tanks with a side hit you may not be able to pen anything on other maps lol
they all have shit rewards unless you kill 20+ thoughever

I truly do hate playing against IS tanks

>>528951003
>without punishment

punishment is getting into a tank at all

>>528951780
Direct hits still work

>>528937951
Wait did they finally fix the fucking missles?

>>528954890
space bar like everyone else

>>528954890
tonks:
LMB primary weapon
RMB secondary weapon (only a thing on stupid double turret/barrel meme shit)
front side button for MG
rear side button for """special guns""" (usually just ATGMs)

planes:
LMB large caliber guns (cannons)
RMB track target
front side button small caliber guns (MGs)
rear side button additional guns (gunpods)

you don't need more

>>528954207
the 262 is a passably decent turnfighter as early jets go but has no particular advantages or playstyle other than that. flying the horten otoh is one of the definitive experiences of arb. I won't call it good but it's something you should experience as long as you're in the tree.

>>528954207
i was in a match with someone using the horton and it was making impossible maneuvers so they probably gave it the anti gravity drive that it deserved

>>528954890
MB5
spacebar is for freelook

>>528954207
>>528955565
horton is training for every retarded delta dorito
basically you're unkillable IF you keep your speed up and resist the temptation to pull 80 degrees aoa and dump all your airspeed and then die because you have dogshit acceleration
just because you CAN pull 30g turns does not mean you SHOULD pull 30g turns unless it's the last guy in the match

Without launching the game, I don't think I have the spacebar bound to anything.

>>528955954
and it's REALLY tempting to do it trying to get guns on target since you have 0 yaw control, but you will die every time
you must learn to control your urges and just fuck off into the sunset if you miss an approach and then gently circle around and set up another pass later when they are distracted again

spacebar is for secondary weapon release in air or brakes in ground
you are disgusting

why is wing sweep auto control so terrible
come on anton you can do better than this

>>528954207
Me 262 is not particularly good at anything. Boring.
He 162 is only good at flying in a straight line. Very boring.
Ho 229 is only good at pulling up. Fun but stupid.

do I wait for wolfpack sale, pig out for the AGS, or cuck out and eat the BR tax for a cheap RDF/LT?

>>528953109
update: apparently not
also lmao the new carrier """""groups"""" don't have any SAMs whatsoever and don't even open fire with guns until you are within like 500m
stunningly realistic gameplay....

>>528956426
spacebar is for freelook. PERIOD.

>>528956942
that's C you fucking retard
holding spacebar completely fucks your ability to comfortably hit other keys at the same time

>>528956592
The brakes thing logically goes on X. Why would you not have it on the same finger as W and S?

>>528957047
You lost your thumb?

>>528957139
X is way too valuable a key for something used as infrequently as brakes

>>528955010
Thanks
Yeah thats pretty much what I thought
Honestly the best ground pounding air rb is something like the cannon chaika one tap howitzers and kill 25 of them

>>528957152
extending thumb out to spacebar puts it in a position that's not very comfortable to hold while using other fingers
alt is fine, but unfortunately alt is way too valuable as a modifier key to bind directly unless you are going pure mouse control for throttle and have ctrl/shift free

>first jet feels

mig-9l my beloved

>>528957584
>not losing your virginity to her
ngmi

>>528957501
You're telling me that with your fingers on wasd you can't just rest your thumb on the spacebar? Are you playing on some kind of curved ergo keyboard?

>>528957903
>arado as your first jet

I suppose you fucked Helen of Troy too

>>528956902
oh so like every other AI target in the game. Sick. I remember when Gepards were to be feared but ppl bitched and they got removed. Same with that fortress on Norway way back when

>some bong nigger pushes me out of my defilade into enemy fire
>dedicated the rest of the game to ensuring he gets 0 kills and 4 deaths

>>528958169
on my current keyboard (shitass K120 from like 15 years ago because WASD on my more comfortable one is falling apart too much for WT) the side of my thumb rests on the left edge of spacebar in neutral position, but there's too much key travel distance/force required to depress it with either 1. using the muscles in the base of thumb and hand to push thumb down sideways, which is not super comfortable and interferes with using other fingers simultaneously, or 2. stretch out thumb fully so the bottom of thumb points downwards and I can just bend it along the joint to activate it without using the rest of hand, but stretching out like that isn't super comfortable either
when I reach for alt with thumb it naturally curves so that the bottom of my thumb is on top of the key and I can just use the joint movement to press it without stretching or involving the rest of hand, which is far more comfortable

give it to grippy NOW

>>528956942
rmb is for free look

What is it about war thunder that attracted so many weird faggots? I don't remember it being like this even just a few years back. Now everygame theres some tranny-type name in EVERY game.

>>528957584
Mine was the Narwhal, simply because i ran out of prop strike aircraft to spade while doing tasks, challenges etc. first and she was the lowest BR jet to proceed to.

I use C for freelook and have never bothered with manual ground brakes versus coasting or slamming reverse, are they meaningfully useful?

last night I thought they finally fixed dx12 performance
today it's fucked again

>>528959776
most of the time it's not really necessary, but there are situations where they come in handy (especially with light wheeled vehicles like type 93 etc when you are doing gokart speeds and then suddenly need to stop ASAP)

Any bets on what the next event ship will be? Early/mid August would line up with the 80th anniversary of VJ Day pretty well, but Missouri seems a bit excessive to add for an event right now. Though it would fit gaijin’s pattern of making the best in category US ship a limited event

>>528957584
I thought f-80-A5 was bad. Then I tried it again and I love it

Just took a giant Badger. I was worried I was gonna clog my toilet.

>>528959204
Ah I see, most keyboards I've used have supports on the sides of the spacebar so it stays level and actuates quickly even just pressing one side.
>>528959776
Being able to look around quickly without taking your hands off wasd is pretty useful.

why on earth is anton so stingy with adding WT live skins to the game
I would spend golden birdies if planes I like actually had the skins I like available on the marketplace....

It was Thursday, and now its Friday /wtg/
I forgot

>>528957584
i miss my narwhal, i dont visit her too much nowadays :(

>>528960746
It can't be that bad it seems like a slightly fatter vbci at a lower br
>100 rpm
oh no

>>528957903
>>528957584
my first jet was the pulkzerstorer

>>528961601
The turret traverse speed is honestly an even bigger problem.

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT BRRRRRRRRT BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT
BRRT BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

is there any way to view the damage model of non-playable shits like the carriers ingame or would i have to dig through the cdk

>>528962053
might be a thing in the mission editor but idk for sure

>>528957584
>S.O.4050 Vatour IIN (Late)

>>528959776
If you use reverse you have to let go at exactly the right moment. Better to use the keybind that tells the driver to do a full stop.

how come if you run out of fuel your engine makes noise and smokes forever until you manually turn it off
this doesnt seem very realistic anton...

>>528962238
cdk it is
possibly not the most optimal viewing environment

did the entire QA team get conscripted

>>528962924
>possibly not the most optimal viewing environment

>waited for years until Gaishit finally added the fun IJN ships
>the day finally arrives
>DoA update for Japan
>mfw >>528910969
>mfw >>528912798
>THE ship everybody thinks about when you mention WW2 battleships
>butchered and neutered by the first devblogs
>probably way back then
>never got fixed as promised
>know it's because slavshits are still butthurt over the battle of Tsushima more than a century later
>don't even get a pity high tier premium to speed up the process, unlike the Germans and the Slavgroids
>only get ANOTHER premium wartime destroyer that gets mogged by anything in the USN tree anyways
>puccian ship is straight up w*rg*ming levels of napkincopewaffen as shown in >>528912798
>it's also unkillable and has better accuracy than anything else
>who knows the reason for any of this to happen
>desire to keep playing naval wanes because of this
>naval was the only interesting thing left
>mfw this update was so dogshit and clearly rushed without any care for balance or forethought it might have killed whatever desire to keep playing I had
I'm gonna go back to playing Battlestations and U-Boat sims with my friends instead, probably buy and explore new and different games to see if I can remember what having fun playing vidya feels like.
Might give away my account in case anybody is interested but the way I see things nu-/wtg/ is full of fags so we'll see.

>>528963117
they would never, war thunder is literally the only export russia has

>>528963117
>QA team

>>528963353
I'd say you'll be back, but I rather hope you escape successfully and that the Yudintsevs die in a yacht accident before the company sells out to more competent less malicious management

okay, getting the funnels and fuel tanks out of the way:
3 main ammo stores spaced along the ship, but since these are at the bottom and I don't think the game cares about multiple bombs in the same spot breaking through the deck these are probably going to be hard to hit with non-AP bombs
there's smaller turret ammo stores just below the deck at the rear of the ship that are probably hittable, but not sure how much impact that will have since they are pretty far away from anything relevant on the shitp
would be kinda nice if we had any high rank torpedos since anton hasn't given us the fucking AShMs...

>>528963353
extremely convincing post
you've convinced me that tencent has scraped 4chan archives and trained an ai model to closely mimic an authentic 4chan shitpost

I still won't play naval without subs, ASMs, and a map of at least the entire med

Got a good game in the yak 9k

>>528964007
I don't know how you would have a bad game in it.

>>528954451
I don't usually go out of my way to tk but I've gotten the "10 people have reported you" notifications like three times and nothing ever came of it. I've also never heard of anyone getting banned for teamkilling.

Are the new SAMs actually working then? Is top tier playable?

>>528955565
>the 262 is a passably decent turnfighter
it's insane that people keep lying about the 262 and not getting called out for it

>>528957584
229 my beloved UFO

>>528965137
I mean kikka kinda is I guess
but kikka is just less shit than 262s in every way except speed retention

How come my missiles hit with no damage? My aim-9l had a direct hit yet nothing wtf gaijin

>>528957584
https://youtu.be/xRx7WYCckO8
I beelined the MiG-15 cause I saw this documentary when I was 10 (~2006).

>>528965505
anton disabled missile splash damage so if proxy fuse triggers it does nothing
be nice and maybe he'll bring it back :)

>>528965505
there's an ongoing bug with AAM missiles where they put RNG on the damage output kek

>>528965505
smarr indian dave((((

>>528965505
Missile damage is a based on how many shekels you've given Gaijin. Want better performace? Better start buying packs.

So it’s a good time to grind stock jets?

is bombing the carrier deck with mk84s how china would REALLY attack our carriers bros...

>>528957584
>P-80
In retrospective, was i just bad or were german jets way more handheld back in 2015? i remember how hard i struggled with 262s and hortens, nowadays they are easy kills

>>528966082
the p80 was never playable. if you played it and killed anyone once you should feel like a god.

>>528966082
p80/262/meteor matchup was the most balanced top tier we ever had honestly
however 262s get skullfucked way harder than the others against postwars because of the low velocity guns + postwars doing the only thing they are kinda good at (going fast after spending a day accelerating + retaining energy in dives) better than them
meteor has extremely good maneuverability and acceleration, p80 at least has guns that are suited for the BR, 262s just get fucked if it's not a downtier lol

>only 3 10 kill wagers left
>30mil burning my pocket

next set of lootboxes fucking when

>piles of SL boosters
>never use them because I don't feel like playing my boring fair and balanced aced crew frog yak

>knocked out by the ZSU
>leave match
fucking hate russia so much

>SL wagers
*yawn*

>>528967150
this didn't happen

>>528967434
it did

>>528967490
it DIDN'T

can AI spawn planes in shits?

>>528967860
IT DID
I TURNED A CORNER
HE KNOCKED MY CANON OUTA
THEN MY ENGINE WITH HIS TRILLION QUASI-TANK SHOTS
I HATE RUSSIA I HATE RUSSIA I HATE RUSSIA

>Just need to get 4 air kills in ground matches
>Enemy team just immediately folds in every match
I mean I am getting the top 3 battle ass challenge done with ease this way but still.

>>528969804
Ram teammates like all pros who want good matches

Would you grind her event?

>>528971097
>she's just rusting away somewhere
sad...

>>528971280
It could be worse, it could be rusting away in the dark at the bottom of the ocean like countless ships.

>>528968007
not yet

>>528971773
Most of those ships are being used for medical grade steel if I recall because they're uncontaminated by radiation from nuclear tests

>>528964007
>only 10kill on the most retarded and fake vehicle of this russin cope simulator.
>good game
lol

>>528971280
>>528971773
There was a Wiesel out front of a used car dealership being used as a roadside attention getter, painted in garish colors where I live. Felt pretty bad.

>>528971097
I don't ever grind anything.

>>528972167
I should add I live in the US so it's even weirder.

>>528972064
>scaring off your food before it grows to adulthood

>>528972167
Post the skin on wt live

>>528971097
>would you grind the comically undertiered mutt ratnigger vehicle that's somehow going to end up even moreso than its comically undertiered parent chassis because of gaijin's strange coddling of recoilless slingers?
yeah probably but I don't know if I'd grind it to the point of being sellable so I can think about marketplacing it and never actually doing so or grind it into a normal coupon I just don't care to redeem

>>528972167
I love the way this place uses its milsurp, feels good
>recon mig 21
>brit armoured car i dont know
>fbi van
>humvee

>>528964007
I despise the Yak-9k so fucking much.
Giving it a full APHE belt has made it one of the best CAS planes in the fucking game.

>>528971976
even though it's small enough to be minimally harmful, something about everything and everyone on the surface being forever contaminated by radiation makes me a little sad

>>528972843
forgot to put the image

So if I play a bomber in Air RB, do I just fly over an enemy base, drop my bombload, and then J out and go next like a chode?

>>528973337
Theoretically, can i just keep exploding nukes to increase the global background radiation until it becomes harmful?

God dammit, does this shit happen to anyone else? Base cap messages simply DO NOT FADE AWAY
They just keep stacking

>>528973337
Ironically the background radiation levels have decreased to the point that we don't need to disturb war graves for their steel

>>528973605
>be random military surplus store in the middle of nowhere USA
>Why yes, I do happen to own a Mig-21
I love America sometimes bros...

Why are people hating on the new kill card thing. I think its cool to see peoples avatars at least. Adds some personality to the game. I think maybe move it off to the side instead of the middle-top of the screen maybe.

>>528973632
Wait until someone is chasing you and lead them to the edge of the map then send it into the ground.

>>528974941
>avatars

>>528974528
Yeah, it's been doing that since the update

>>528975190
>Nitpicking

>>528975091
Do you gain more SL/RP doing this or is it just to be a dick? And the core gameplay is just to drop all my ordinance on bases and then do fuck all, yeah?

>>528975295
>an actual girl
>who plays war thunder

grim

>>528975575
I thought you wanted to be a dick. Don't play bombers if you're trying to grind it's a waste of time unless you get some OP piece of shit like the Ju 288C.

this game unironically turned into fucking amongus where the imposter has the only working missiles in the game fucking hell

>>528976168
kek

>>528975668
Huh?

>>528976008
I am a Warthunder player (a man who has sex with other men)

GOOD LORD WHAT THE FUCK IS THE BADGER?

>>528976426
Anon I already knew that, you're posting in the War Thunder General on Four Chan dot Org slash vg slash wtg

>>528976587
Ludicrously overtiered. The gun isn't even that bad but the turret traverse is laughable and every nation has an infinitely better version of it at the same BR.

Badger Badger Badger
Mushroom Mushroom

Will the Harrier ever be as good as it should be?

>>528978157
wus wrong widdit

>premiums ON SALE cost more than multiple games on steam combined
when did the prices get this bad
I remember snatching up ww2 prems a decade ago for a few bucks. Cobra king, a6m5ko, xp38, whatever happened there

I thought F-4 was supposed to be fast, but I cannot even outrun MiG-21.

>>528978547
retard

>>528978514
oy vey what you want free abrams? ((((((( banned for racisims

>>528978514
Nigger queue top tier after a sale or patch with new top tiers. 80% of your and the enemy teams will be shiny new planes and tanks. Why would they lose money selling them for less than what the whales are willing to pay?

>>528978514
>xp38
hi squidley

I don't need the Christian II...

>>528976587
>>528976880
crazy how it's fucking 9.0 lmao
reminder the BMP-2 is fucking 8.7!

>>528979193
I bought it today. The thing is a fucking go kart. You get to spots enemies don't even think of looking at.

>>528979239
It gets absolutely raped by even the XM800T at 8.3.

How do you get out of the Radar Control mode? No matter what view I try to cycle to, it wont go away

>>528978157
I miss squidley's harrierposting

I don't know why DEFYN shat all over the F/A-18C Early
I have a lot of fun with it and I regularly place first in the lobby, even on a losing match but maybe it's just a player skill moment

>>528978157
>>528980309
shut up kill squidniggerly

>>528980309
Someone has been reporting anything related to squidley.
>>528976880
I don't see how anyone at gaijin even looked at that thing and went "yep that's 9.0"

>>528980987
>Someone has been reporting anything related to squidley.
how dare they try to kill the general

>>528980987
>Someone has been reporting anything related to squidley.

wow its almost like off-topic dogwhistle shit is off-topic and not related to war thunder but related to discordtrannie shit that is not related to war thunder

i4w

Sweden suffers

>"""""""""""""played""""""""""""" 5 shits battles
>saw 8(eight) planes
>five were ours
>other three got vaporized by AI blue enemies kilometers before reaching us
every passing goddamn day my hatred for coffee shop grows larger
I genuinely hope a*ton and every shits player who supports this mode dies a very painful death

>>528980987
I don't believe for a second that this is happening but if the janny was really engaged in total squiggler death that'd be based

>>528981765
literally food for 14.0 everytime

I just logged in today and suddenly a lot of the controls have switched or are just plain fucked.

1.) I hold WEP and it doesn't maintain it and just goes schizo with the throttle
2.) I try to use mouse view to look around by holding C, it barely works like 15% of the time
3.) Hold TAB for the score and it just goes schizo and only needs a single press now
4.) And now I can't yaw in gunner view either

Fix your fucking game snail and to think I was going to get some of the Summer Sale things. fuck you

>>528984701
Werks on my machine

>>528984701
>he didn't back up his controls

probably for the best, your bindings were shit anyway

>>528984901
I had no idea you could do that I am a retard.

>>528981986
They nerfed player aa accuracy but it doesn’t feel like they did the same for bots. Feels very hard to get air kills as a player currently

>>528985030
if you don't have keybind backups from months or years ago you would have to rebind everything and re-memorize it all later anyway. don't worry about it.

>>528985030
At least you admit you're retarded

>make bug report for NATO vehicle with multiple cited sources
>LOCKED, DENIED, NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE
>make bug report for SOVIET/RUSSIAN vehicle with barely real sources and a propaganda pamphlet
>OPENED, APPROVED, FIX WILL BE IN SOON CUMRADE!
What causes this?

>>528986194
bug report manager #1
the one that got doxxed

>>528986194
>What causes this?
>that timmy won't do anything about it and will just get mad and shit his pants is, and also that the Russians are butthurt nationalist retards.

>timmy
SSSAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>528986606
DO NOT REDEEM THE BUG REPORT BLOODY BITCH BENCHOD BASTARD

>>528986281
>the one that got doxxed
link ? they have not done anything to him like sending Romanian prostitutes to his home ?

>the bushes on the M4 76 from the new pack are counted as CHA
o.o

>>528980987
>I don't see how anyone at gaijin even looked at that thing and went "yep that's 9.0"
It's British and Britisher players are simply way more skilled than the other nations, hence why it gets over-BR'd
If It was American or German it'd be 8.0 probably

>>528987039
It's called pay2win sweatie

>>528985279
>Feels very hard to get air kills as a player currently
unlocked the HE-VT on skrrt-7 just now and this is what I got
is this the intended))))))) effect?
is there some arkaden bullshit going on?
is it broken like missiles?
all I know is that I want to behead Anton

>>528987228
TRVKE

>>528987732
I think the problem with missiles is a problem with all proximity fuses so probably. It’s normally very lethal

>>528987732
It could be that they fucked HE in general Vs planes, I've noticed quite a bit of hisparkos since the update. Then again they might just have shit servers right now.

almost no ~100mm pen APDFS auto cannon deserves to be anywhere near 9.0+ especially without ATGMs

especially when they are 50 feet tall

its really inexcusable, no one thinking about it more than 30 seconds would make this choice

similarly TOW helicopters facing IRCCM missile flingers while having to hover inches from the battlefield to be effective

>>528988374
Again, it would at least be PLAYABLE if the turret didn't turn like it was rusted the fuck out.

playing 4.0 ground and the soviet planes are fucking obnoxious
does it ever get better later on

I hate having to deal with panthers frontally with the comet just because I have to sit there and plink their turret crew to death individually with that long ass reload.

god I love air to air mavericks so much, everyone's overconfident right now since proxy warheads are fucked

>>528987732
anything that triggers a proxy fuse does no damage currently, only direct hits work

>zero tries to turnfight me
>turns straight into my line of fire

>>528989146
>if the turret didn't turn like it was rusted the fuck out
It's hand-cranked

braindead question but will I have fun playing early jets like the Me 262 and Meteor?
On that topic, what's the best 6.7/7.0 jet?

>>528993003
>It's hand-cranked
lmao no fucking way and this thing faces BMP-3 spam in every fucking game it plays. This is Britain's punishment for the Shir 2 being released at 9.7 isn't it?

>>528993417
I only dogfight in GRB (but I do that pretty frequently). I haven't gotten 262s yet but I've heard they're meh and I never worry when I see one. Meteors are great though.

>>528993475
10.3 soon))))))

>>528993417
early jets are fun

no idea what is best anymore but once you hit jets raw top speed counts for more than most other things

>>528993681
You're probably right. There's less bitching about it but Britain very nearly gets the French BR treatment.

>>528994438
recycle

>>528994527
People still just keep shooting the cheeks

>>528993417
meteor maybe
262 absolutely NOT. please don't listen to anyone saying anything positive about them and trust me when i tell you to not waste any time or effort grinding, crewing, or even trying to fly one in either GRB or ARB
the 262s are probably the worst case of br placement in the entire game and always forced to fight postwar jets that outperform you in every single metric

minor exception with the narwhal which is just low enough in br that it's actually usable in ARB, but in GRB it's zero fun and borderline unplayable because every single player is using post war spaa with minguns and radar

>>528995345
I honestly suck at the game but I was FEASTING when it was still 9.7. It's still very good at 10.0 but those rare 8.7 downtiers facing early APFSDS were insane. The reload speed with an expert crew is ridiculous.

>>528995582
>but in GRB it's zero fun and borderline unplayable because every single player is using post war spaa with minguns and radar
Maximum germ player, has a slight hindrance in a full uptier against some nations and suddenly the world has ended.

>>528996270
>slight hindrance

>>528995582
The Jabo and squadron 262s are very nice strike aircraft that run circles around most jets they encounter in ARB.

>>528996431
Other nations can somehow handle it.

Thoughts on the new swiss tree?

>>528998548
Why was the only swiss plane not actually in it?

>>528996824
yeah no shit, they all get postwar planes

Is there a way to turn off the dogshit COD dogtags that pop up when you die.

>>528995582
True, why aren't the 262s at 6.3 and 6.7 where they belong?
>b-but they'd be t-too strong
They're supposed to be, they were WWII jets and their early deployment should grant them a BR advantage like they had historically
The Me 262 should be clubbing Spit IXs and P-51s at 6.3 rather than having to fight MiG-15s
BR changes
Me 262 A-2a - 6.7 > 6.0
Me 262 A-1a - 7.0 > 6.3
Me 262 A-1a/Jabo 7.0 > 6.7
Me 262 C-1a - 7.3 > 6.7
Me 262 A-1a/U1 - 7.3 > 7.0
Me 262 C-2b - 7.7 > 7.0

>>528999024
Ah yes how silly of me the 6.7 aircraft of other nations are all anti radar stealth with RWR, oh wait it's late spitfires and those shitty jet yaks.

>>528999438
Ok but you get one every ten games and every now and then you have no engines because slave labor sabotaged it.

>>528999484
>Spitfire vs Shilka
totally fair and balanced

>>528999575
Reliability issues/lack of production units aren't modeled in game
If we went by your logic only one person on an entire 6.0 team should be allowed to fly the J7W1 Shinden because only one prototype existed

>>528999742
>Reliability issues/lack of production units aren't modeled in game
Well they are now with historic matchmaking, suck it.

>>528998548
why would i grind an entire new line just for some skins i could download off wtlive anyway

>>528999438
>why aren't the 262s at 6.3 and 6.7 where they belong?
because gaijin LOATHES germans

>clubbing Spit IXs and P-51s at 6.3
i've actually fought with the 262 against historical counterparts a few times and it's pretty fair
the props basically take the same role that japan does against US in props, although most US players are incredibly retarded but if both parties have an equal understanding of how to fight it's pretty balanced and fun

>>528999484
US doesn't fight itself so it never has to worry about radar miniguns
the US/UK postwar jets and superprops are faster than the 262 with vastly superior payload which have a clearly better chance at facing up against anti air of the same era

your teammate tonight coming to you from an internet cafe in Shanghai

instacart?

>>529002052
OCU is nothing special, only advantage it has over the F-2 is you get 6 ARH instead of 4/4

Is the Badger 30mm manually loaded? Why the fuck did they give it 100rpm.

>>529000828
US aren't even at BR 6.7 so stop trying to shift to them, they face the copy paste in the Israel tree the veak and the shilka. (An d more considering the jets your are talking about are 7+).
The point is that German mains fucking suck dick, no you don't suffer you are given some of the best fucking lineups and struggle to break 40%.

any notes for the patch they just dropped? are missiles fixed?

>>528928087
decently

It's impressive how many things completely unrelated to the update they still manage to break every single update.
Why is the kill feed broken, why do the cap alerts not go away? Great stuff.

>>529003185
this retard trying to profit off a DOA low tier non-prem tank lmao

shit ain't selling for more than 15 max and with the 15% gjn shekel tax you're gonna make pennies

>>529003138
just tested it myself, missiles are NOT fixed
just watched all 4 of my sparrows do nothing to a chink jet

>>529003983
>T86
>non premium
Are you retarded?

>>529004226
such a non-entity i honestly forgot

it's still dogshit DOA. 400 orders, 1300 still up for sale, retard move trying to profit off that.

good night squidley

>>529003983
Put a reminder in your calendar, it's going to be above 14.18GJN within less than two weeks, and will most likely go significantly that break even point before the next sale. There's not really a safer short term investment. I'll pick up some M46's, but those will need to be held far longer.

I HATE HEATFS AS DEFAULT ROUNDS FOR TANKS THAT ARE IN THE TIME OF ERA
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Why do groundnigs constantly bring br 3.7-5.0 dogshit planes like P-47D into 8.0+ matches to ground pound? And they always do a kamikaze dive, do they not know how to pull up?
If you're going to spawn in a plane (which is throwing 90% of the time) you might as well grind air rb. The air grind is twice as easy and air rb is twice as fun as ground. In air, people are friendly or at least talkative, and they will give you advice. Meanwhile in ground hardly anyone talks at all, ever. I'm convinced they play the bare minimum to unlock the 3000lbs of bombs on the jug, and then go back to ground where the rest of their air xp is from lawndarting like a stupid faggot.
Btw I constantly spawn as proper BR planes in ground rb with no suspended ordinance or ap belts so I can shoot down retarded ground nigs in their shitty planes.

>>529004998
me with my m1a1 aim that i bought today

>>529005036
>Why do groundnigs constantly bring br 3.7-5.0 dogshit planes like P-47D into 8.0+ matches to ground pound?
First reasonably fast planes with fat bombs. Probably don't have anything higher.
>And they always do a kamikaze dive, do they not know how to pull up?
If you want to pull out you need to know how to bomb without reticle. Very few people can do that reliably.

>>529005036
>Why do groundnigs constantly bring br 3.7-5.0 dogshit planes like P-47D into 8.0+ matches to ground pound?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGsJOElZU5k

>>529005036
>with no suspended ordinance
Why?
Even weighed down by a full bomb/rocket load you can dab on the average lawndart groundnig who has the situational awareness of a rock and the self preservation instincts of a deer, the only real risk is you'll be too slow to catch him before he lawndarts into the first moving object he spots but that's liable to happen even unburdened and I'd rather have some ordinance to drop instead of circling until someone else spawns more food

>>529005652
Honestly its because most ussr fighters dont even have bombs or I might not have them unlocked yet

>>529005036
CAStards only care about having the "I win" button of 1000lb+ bombs, actuarial aerial performance or "playing to win" are completely secondary

>>528975431
Stop shoving your bow to the enemy retard this isn't wows

>>529006269
Quoi?

>>529006347
nta but World of Warships (wows for short) has somewhat.... interesting... approach to reality.
On of the ways this manifests is that the battleship armor is the least effective when broadsided to enemy and most strong when "bow in" aka the exact opposite of reality where going "bow in" would only serve to expose your deck and magazine more. Battleships historically always engaged broadsided, because this way the armor worked the best and it was harder to get shot trough the deck.

>>529006695
So the French design of all guns in front doesn't really offer that many advantages?

play world of warplanes

>>529006760
not really as long as you aren't fleeing, that is

>>529005036
half the trees have basically 0 decent cas options from between there and and 9.0+
bombs are bombs who gives a le fuck

>>529006774
I'd rather play War Thunder naval than that

DID THE UPDATE FIX THE MISSILES

>>529006760
All forward could save weight by minimizing the proportion of the ship you needed to armor, as long as you weren’t doing it the American way and requiring a fixed percentage of the waterline always be armored. It also can allow you to take a more aggressive angle against an enemy while keeping all main guns in firing sector. However that angle isn’t fully bow in since that the angle your forward bulkhead is least effective at and it takes your belt out of the equation. However this came at the cost of removing all effective firepower if you have to flee, which was enough of a problem that the French wanted to move back to a more conventional arrangement with planned future construction

>>529006760
not in a war thunder kinda way
iirc the idea is to limit the real estate that requires maximum protection (turrets+magazines) by having it all in one spot instead of one at the front and one at the back
this way you save (a bit) on tonnage that you have to spend on protection
pair that with a fairly aggressive doctrine, et voila. all forward

>>529007257
Yep, totally fixed now.

FUCK it I'm gonna join the PAPA DANIEL horde...

>>529007260
>>529007398
Thanks for spoonfeeding, that's interesting. Didn't know they wanted to move back to a conventional design either. Did that at least result in some plans, or were battleships dead before they could even put it to paper?

>>529007672
IIRC they wanted to build a pair of follow on Richelieus that would’ve shifted the superfiring turret aft while keeping the quads. They also planned an Alsace class, which didn’t have a finalized design but I believe all preliminaries being considered were conventional ABX designs

>they put the default spawn for planes as 'airfield' on GRB
sneaky gaijew

>>529007672
cant be arsed rn to look them up but some of the design studies/proposals for Clemenceau and Gasconge included
>one quad forward, one aft
>two quads forward
>basic fast BB layout (2x3 forward, 1x3 aft)
and i think there was a 2x4 forward 1x4 aft as well
i got the John Jordan book lying around somewhere but its probably popular enough that the drawings are online somewhere, but if we're still talking about it in a few hours i might take some crappy pictures

Why did goymany call their tank leopard and not tiger 3, tiger 4

How do we fix the F/A-18C Early

>>529007732
>esport

>>529008359
Allow it to carry 20 sparrows and give it 1000 countermeasures

>>529006347
WoWS is more KINO because they have AUTOBOUNCE angles where if you go bow in, you can deflect AP and OUTSKILL the enemy players whereas in WarTurd Shitps you just die regardless of what you do
Of course in WoWS The Yamato is actually GOOD because it the guns have incredible performance AND they have "overmatch" that lets them ignore some bow-in battleships armor and do heavy damage to them
Overall it's a more "Arkaden" game but the tradeoffs make the game way more fucking fun to play and I'll take that over "realistic" gameplay that sucks ass any day

>>529007732
why can't they be generous enough to give us twitch vehicle drops like they did back in the old days

>autobounce angles
gayest thing I've head in a while. Begone nigger.

They have barely fixed missiles

or now i'm just negatively primed to assume there's a bug every time i get only hits

>>529007957
>>529008145
Huh, neat
>3x4
I hope we get that ingame eventually. Same guns, I assume?
>i got the John Jordan book lying around somewhere but its probably popular enough that the drawings are online somewhere
If you have a name, probably. But posting them would be appreciated too.

>>529008663
Player spending need to stop going up before that can happen.

>>529007732
>Guy Fieri, Japan

>>529007732
Is there a list of profile icon frames? I've seen some more, but I have no clue how to get them.

How come barely anyone uses the ASU-85?

>>529002491
Seems like some sort of hopper feed that needs to be continuously filled.

https://warthunder.com/en/news/9587-market-40-new-user-created-camouflages-in-the-leviathans-trophy-en
>https://warthunder.com/en/news/9587-market-40-new-user-created-camouflages-in-the-leviathans-trophy-en
https://warthunder.com/en/news/9587-market-40-new-user-created-camouflages-in-the-leviathans-trophy-en
>https://warthunder.com/en/news/9587-market-40-new-user-created-camouflages-in-the-leviathans-trophy-en

the lack of gun depression on soviet vehicles makes me want to fucking KILL MYSELF if I'm being honest

>>529010163
slow casemate with no armor and an absolutely dogshit reverse speed is not appealing to most players

>>529010846
Just bury the tank into the ground bro

Missiles work fine pidor, stop complaining

>>529011341
Just came back and saw an update. Do proxy really work or just "missle do work as intended racist xaxaxaxa pidor"

Unfortunally these animals don't put out changelogs for most of the micro updates they do

>>529002052
Worst 13.7 in the fucking game.
Spaded it now while missiles are fucked and never touch it again.

>>529010268
this one is cursed as fuck