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Voidship Edition

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>Thread Question:
Do you like the Voidship mini game in Rogue Trader? How would you improve it and would you want something similar in Dark Heresy?

Vyatt has some reactivity for Lex

>>530021224
Marazhai is good, but the devs didn't stop to think to add reasons to keep him around, in fact they immediately make it hard to justify with the first warp jump.
One issue for example is that he clearly vibes with evil RTs, but an evil RT is probably going heretic, and heretic gets him killed
They could have done several things to make him more appetible for grey or iconoclast RTs, but as is you have to do mental gymnastics to have him around.

His actual dialogue is very good, meaning it's a shame he was handled like this.

I'm on chapter 2 now and I have to go to three of my planets but they're all spaced out on the expanse map. Should I be going system to system along the way or brute force jump to a planet. It feels like it will take forever to go system by system.

Neat, I kinda want to try making a servo skull Overseer on my next playthrough to try out all this shit.

>>530044669
I always take time to explore, but you can do everything as long as its before the ascension cerimony

>>530044998
Ok. I don't mind doing that then especially as the ship mini game is alright for me. I've ran out of stuff to mine planets though, can I buy them anywhere? Also is there a recommended planet order to visit? It feels like the game is pushing me that there will be serious consequences for not going to each one first but I'm thinking the capital city planet, the food planet and then the factory planet in that order.

>>530044616
Also every converasation with him is a minefield where a "mine" is the situation becoming INCREDIBLY gay

>>530044616
The easiest solution would have been to make the Dargonus DEldar villain someone else and have you meet Marazhai in Comorragh for the first time, already down on his luck. Preferably at a point when you are desperately looking for allies to survive and not when you already got most of your team and gear back to give you an actual, legitimate reason to try and team up with him.
Also they could've given him a build that isn't shit with Void Shadows at least.

>>530045176
>can I buy them anywhere?
Yes, the mechanicus merchant can sell you 10, you can get other 5 from events and like another 5 from your colonies buildings

My suggestion is to NOT mine stuff like "2 steel"
It's a waste, I have 100 steel and I ignored all of those, they are not worth an extractor, only mine materials like that if there are 5 or more.

>>530045382
>and have you meet Marazhai in Comorragh for the first time
I don't think that's necessary, we can leave his first meeting on the planet in act 2, and then we can meet him again in Dargonus but it's Tazarra who orchestrated it or something, and he tries to convince you to kill her and runs away.

>>530045612
The point is, don't give the players every reason to hate and want to kill him in Act 2.

>>530045249
Just like any conversation itt
#ourguy

>>530045382
I think the bigger issue is that he's the one who kidnaps and drugs you. If he was a random asshole raider that killed some of your people then that's annoying but it should've been his sister dragging you to Commoragh so you are invested in helping him get revenge on her.

>>530045756
I found it based and hilarious, you clearly aren't properly roleplaying the average imperium citizen who thinks deaths besides his aren't anything of consequence

>>530046053
Just once I wish the delusional marzfags could argue in good faith. Just once.

>>530046053
It's not just about the lives, after you escape commoragh he has run his use, he offers nothing to you, but keeping someone like him around is a constant threat to your life.

>>530046419
Don't bother, his kind are even worse than Wendufags.

>Sees Yrliet
>Fucking dies

>>530047036
>I have lost the will to live

Does anyone know how to fix it? Fucking 6 FPS
I don't want to have to use toybox for the boss fight too

>>530047036
I would too to be desu, there is no viler specimen of eldar to behold than yrliet

>>530046419
What if I'm a based retard who wants the threat to my life? Most of the RT origins are purely military backgrounds

how is the System Shock 1 remake? Worth the 30 bucks?

>>530047394
have you tried adding the overseers to your party and removing them again

They fix one bug and introduce 5 more don't they

>barge into chinese reastaurant
>"konnichiwa!"
>do a 360 and walk away

>>530047764
I'll try that
Or I can straight up just bring them with me I guess

I want to kill both Winterscale and Chorda so that I can be the only Rogue Trader in the koronus expanse!

The old ones made the farseers as a joke, they were trained wrong specifically to inflict suffering upon the eldar

There is no other explanation.

>>530048639
Wouldn't that require wiping out the whole bloodline?

>>530045902
I thought jimmy was /ourguy/ due to his autism, and propensity for spaghetti dropage

>>530047841
>having to toybox the breakable tile in
Well, that's a first.

>>530047394
It's not a boss fight. Just toybox it. I didn't have any fps trouble except for this one fight

>>530048954
>except for this one fight
It's already the second fight I get this in
>It's not a boss fight
I'm talking about Ymremeryss
I would rather not have to cheat that one

>>530044742
>Instead we one eldar you wouldn't recruit, ever with a shit build
Why do people keep saying that? He's a warrior assassin. What's wrong with that?

>>530049112
2/3rd of his build is locked in and dogshit, also not bladedancer assassin

>>530047730
its fun but i prefer the original

>>530048745
If all they do is lead them into self-fullfiilling prophecies why haven't the eldar simply killed all farseers? Or stopped listening to them

40K eldar wife... please owlcat

>>530049403
Mever ever lmaaaaao

>>530049321
what else are they supposed to do without their societal herders, revert to the NEET life?

>>530049509
Follow an example of other species and not be controlled by retards who can't even interpret their visions right

>>530044569
with the dog!?

>>530049630
>Follow an example of other species
In 40K?

>>530049403
>Eldrad
>no
He was emperor's bed warmer and the real reason why his wife had a woman moment

I wanna smooch her.

Do we ever get an explanation why Calcazar hid his plans from his right hand man? Everybody else knew everything, but Heinrix

>>530050003
Calcazar is left handed

>>530050003
He knew jimmy is a softie deep down.
Hooking himself up to a chaos cogitator is his 'I went all in' on radical, which is like the daily routine for them

>>530050235
But that's literally wrong. He goes all-in on chaos powers in the ending

>>530049321
>>530049630
Farseers are not necessarily the leaders of the Craftworld, it depends on which Craftworld you're looking at it. In Biel-Tan for example they're just advisors. Crudarach being written the way it is adds more evidence to the pile already there that Owlcat writers didn't bother to do even the most basic research on how Craftworlds work and just assumed all of them are Ulthwe lite. Yrliet and the Crudarach Eldar are the worst written "Eldar" in GW history, as a result of Owlcats incompetence. Even Gotos garbage is better Eldar material than Owlcats, that is genuinely how bad it is.

>>530050430
>Calzone wrong about something
No shit

>>530050440
Why didn't GW tell them to fix Yrilet. Are they truly that indifferent for the Eldar.

I'm having so much fun playing with this. Kek. I now understand the dolly talk, this is like playing in a barbie house.

>>530050440
>Owlcat writers didn't bother to do even the most basic research on how Craftworlds work and just assumed all of them are Ulthwe lite.
Doesn't Yrliet tell you the opposite of that if you ask her what Craftworlds are like?

>>530050670
>Are GW indifferent to "faction that is not SM"
The answer is always yes.

>>530050670
You're overestimating the involvement GW has with vidya. Case in point a metric fuckton of liscenced shovelware.

One would think he would be smarter than to provoke me while in warp dysjunction range

>>530052308
He is the most retarded homonculus there is. Even marazhao calls him out on that and he's not the brightest bulb in the pack either

Does Power Armour benefit from Second Skin talent?

>>530052646
power armor doesn't give dodge reduction anyway

>>530050003
I mean, Calcazar basically tried to kill Jimmy on Rykard by not warning him that Deldar were gonna steal the sun from the system, he views him as an expendable asset

>>530052892
>I mean, Calcazar basically tried to kill Jimmy on Rykard
Uh, no? That's not what happened. He sends theodora (you) to get him out of rykad before all goes to shit

Anyone know what these do?

>Random necron on some random planet
>nobody says anything
I feel like that encounter warrants a conversation. Or a quick bant from the knowers at least

>>530054554
Thats how I felt. Pasqal should have been seething.

>>530054543
You use them on your pet stations in your room, but as to what they actually do I have no idea

What would an Owlkek and GW approved Eldar brothel look like?

Okay just as I remembered, Ymremeryss is a huge difficulty spike out of nowhere

>>530047036
question, is every farseer/survivor of the crudurach craft world supposed to die? i don't think i saved a single one of them in my first run. i just kept pressing buttons in commoragh and fucking blended one of them to death

>>530055143
What would a post you made look like if you took your meds?

>>530053337
sure, but he still didn't warn his right hand man that a whole system was gonna go dark because of his deal with Deldars

>>530055186
afaik you can only save the one that's in the box that you lower to the ground. Technically he's supposed to be your only way out if you Kill Yrliet and Marazhai but I don't think it's actually enforced by the quest.

>>530055373
>but I don't think it's actually enforced by the quest.
I don't know if it's enforced by the quest but you can not kill him, the conversation doesn't give you the option if you don't have any other eldar with you.

>>530055143
Human women get to pay to fuck Eldar men, human men pay to watch and get asigned a female eldar findom partner.

>>530055341
Maybe he couldn't, maybe he did and the message didn't go through.

>>530055529
Based

What are the chances of Owlcat actually giving the seething incels an Aeldari romance next game?

>>530055341
Why do you think Jimmy is his second in command? He's just one of his Interrogators that wasn't in on any of the plans with Theodora to fuck with Necrons and C'tan. His personal retinue is Brasswhisper, the chick guarding the warp gate to chapter 5, and the assassin guy that pretends to be a butler.

Jimmy didn't even get his memories altered like the officers of your ship because he never saw any of the heretical shit Calcazar was doing.

>>530055143
Human """"""men"""""" get to pay for a castartion while watching human women get filled to the brim by the seed of male Eldar.

>>530055920
>Why do you think Jimmy is his second in command?
Because he a moron

Question for femcels, would you rather fuck an Eldar male or an incel from these threads?

>>530056294
eldar male duh

>>530054554
Companion reactivity in RT in general is absolutely abysmal, as is reactivity period up until Void Shadows. Might as well repost this:

et to the end of Act 3 and get out of Commoragh only to find:
>Argenta has nothing to say
>Abelard has nothing to say (didn't take him to Commorragh)
>Pasqal has nothing to say even with xenotech in his chest
>Heinrix has nothing to say but at least he had the scene about his Sage friend
>Jae's entire personality shift may as well have not even happened even with her request to help her friends
>Cassia has a kiss option but nothing about her powers affecting you weirdly
>Ulfar only has one new line if you already exhausted everything in Commorragh
>Idira has a line about her quest but she also had a scene where she asks for help
>Kibellah and Yrliet at least have a new thing to say about what happened
Like holy FUCK
If I were to review this game the lack of reactivity overall, not just here (but here definitely stings the worst so far) I would cut my overall score by 25% of the total, god damn it.

One line per character is all it would take, how was that too much to ask? Say what you will about BG3, but at least the NPCs actually reacted to your class and race choices, and it felt like what your character did was having an impact on your companions all the way up until the Epilogue Party, which completely changes based on what you did with them during the game.

Literally every time Yrliet chimes in a conversation she does nothing but seethe. Can't wait to get rid of her.

>>530056615
It's always funny to me whenever this bitch talks of contempt or hubris

>>530055169
She just oneshots 2 part members turn one!
I guess I should have stacked more dodge...

>>530046053
>you clearly aren't properly roleplaying the average imperium citizen who thinks deaths besides his aren't anything of consequence
the fact he sat in MY throne on Dargonus is reason enough to kill him, besides all the destruction he caused

>>530055169
>Ymremeryss
I wish there was an option to fuck her, imagine suckingbher pierced tits..

>>530056615
Why do you even have her on your ship to begin with? I cannot fathom the minds of people who let Yrliet leave Janus alive.

>>530056461
>Say what you will about BG3, but at least the NPCs actually reacted to your class and race choices
Barely, far less than how often your Origin comes up in RT. I'm still in act 2 and I've gotten about a dozen Navy specific stuff.

Forgot how kino this game was. Absolute travesty at how Bioware mishandled this IP and now it's dead.

>Manticore Wendu
Axe bros I don't feel so good...

>>530057248
That's kinda funny since OG RT release had a total of 2-3 lines per origin

Oh yeah I had forgotten if you kill her she resurrects with all HP and gets a free turn to massacre your whole party

Anybody here playing tactical D&D mods?

It's really the ultimate challenge in the D&D realm. There is nothing else out there. No other game, definitely not the newest release, and no other Baldurs Gate 2 mod either. SCS simply doesn't cut it if you are looking for a challenge.
I uploaded a few videos here if anybody wants to have a taste, the mod is called Improved Anvil:

https://odysee.com/@Githzerai:e/Kangaxx:a

https://odysee.com/@Githzerai:e/Ancient-Lich:d

https://odysee.com/@Githzerai:e/Troll-Mound:d

https://odysee.com/@Githzerai:e/Guarded-Compound:4

>>530058037
DAO hurts me because I remember the joy I first played it back in the day getting excited at what was to come

>>530058164
>no str bonus
>less attacks
>but it's autopilot

I love Wenduag but I hate Marazhai

>>530058175
And all of them were contained in the prologue, no less.

I hope Owlcat continues to shit on HFY chudcels and either denies them or humiliates them even harder in regards to Eldar romance.
Yrliet is a masterpiece and the best companion in the game because she completes her task woundorously: to break the HFY incel and not become his power fantasy elf waifu, but keeps her legs closed has the chudcel endure humiliation. She is the boss not him. The only thing the chudcel do is kill her out of beta male rage next run.

why do bg3 retards have such an inferiority complex towards other crpgs?

>>530058428
what spider coochie does to a mf

>>530058756
>The only thing the chudcel do is kill her out of beta male rage next run.
BUT, that changes nothing. The fact remains: Your human self insert eill NEVER fuck an Eldary the xeno girl will not swoon over your pathetic fantasy but eill treat you like the worthless human male you are. Meanwhile the Eldar male will fulfill the woman and gay man's desire, those who YOU HATE, but you will be left with your mi ropenis in hand sadly stroking and coping like Raszard.

>>530058428
Cause he's male

>>530058324
Feel the same way anon. All those cool plot points just going nowhere. Inquisition was a garbage game but at least is kept SOME of those plot points. Best follow up was the confirmation that my Warden and Morrigan got their happy ending. And then Veilguard happened. Nuked the entire setting, zero continuation from the previous games except if you played as a female elf and fucked the bald elf in Inquistion. And if that wasn't enough they ruined Morrigan too.

I miss the amphibian..

>>530058324
What really kills me about Dragon Age: Origins is that I thought it would set a new standard in CRPGs where you actually got a prologue section that varied depending on race or at least class choice, because man that was super awesome. Then not only did it not become the standard, even Dragon Age itself abandoned it. Truly tragic.

Imagine how good Rogue Trader would be, for example, if you could play through a prologue where you actually play as a Crime Lord setting up a heist, or a Commissar executing traitors and leading the charge against the xenos, or a Navy character where you get to command a major space battle, or a Psyker going through the experience of being Sanctioned, and afterwards you carry unique bonuses from the experience into the main game after you're called up to serve as a potential Rogue Trader. It would've been so good.

>>530058756
Your post makes little sense as HFY proponents would kill Yrliet, since they view all species outside of Humanity as being inferior vermin that should be wiped out.

>pirates and random heretic shitters have cooler voidships than me
Why is this allowed. It's worse with this new DLC because if you claim the Heartless ship as your own it fights alongside you in space battles and looks cooler than you.

>>530059534
It's not the style of the dog that matters in a fight

>>530059352
is there even any other game that does this besides swtor?

>>530059510
I'm talking about the HFY subtype that thinks all non human women would jump on monkeycock of their self inserts.

>>530059627
Cyberpunk 2077
Dohoho

I'm fucking sick of fighting Nurgle shitters every time I warp jump

>>530059682
I've never even seen or heard of that though, HFY guys just text dump stuff about humanity would somehow be the strongest, toughest and smartest dudes and wipe out anyone that opposed them. People that wanna fuck alien girls are kind of mutually exclusive from a fanbase that wants all aliens to be nothing but cannon fodder for mighty Human armies.

>>530059352
We'll get it in Dark Heresy. Trust the plan

I just want to fuck elves man

>>530059758
The fact this is true annoys me to no end.

>>530059352
The origins are great but I remember DA devs saying it sucked because everyone only picked Human noble so they felt like their work was for nothing.

>>530059585
Style is the only thing that matters

>>530060146
same, I also want to fuck man elves

>>530060071
No it goes hand in hand. "Humans are the best, we'll outshine all the aliens and fuck their women have them fawn all over our self insert gary stues" it's the same fundamental mentality, just one type of HFY chudcels wants to see it aplied to humans wining wars vs aliens and the other usually shares the similar "huams should come out on top" but also impress the aliens and have them fawn over them. I.E. muh alien maiden will be impressed by muh self-insert and thirst for his cock.

>>530060237
I feel like that's just lazy justification. Same as Larian going "well nobody plays the evil route so we put no effort into it" for BG3.

>>530060237
With that mindset there's no point in creating choice & consequence games with myriad roles in the first place, and every CRPG should just copy the JRPG formula where the story and character selection is static so all content can be developed for that path alone, thus no content is wasted.

>>530058258
Thanks to a fucking MIRACLE Ulfar dodged enough attacks to bring the bitch down

This bossfight always seems like pure RNG to me, you may lose all of your party turn 1 or you might not

>>530060482
Nah I've seen HFY text dumps, there is never anything about fucking alien girls, it's all just "we're gonna take the stars and crush all the weak aliens in our path". Guys that wanna fuck alien babes are not HFY adherents, that's just the simple fact. Which makes sense, it's a completely opposed viewpoint on what to do with aliens. You don't breed with what you consider to be inferior.

>>530060384
If only eldar looked like that insetad of like holocaust survivors

>>530060237
Most incels self insert, glad Origins didn't offer them female elf romances where race reactivity matters, so they couldn't have lived out their incel "exotic girl would fuck my self insert" fantasy with racial reactivity.

I picked Dwarf Commoner
I always play the evil routes
developers should cater to ME

>>530058336
>>no str bonus
WDYM? Picrel
>>less attacks
Actually its MORE attacks.

>>530060790
But you can fuck an Elf girl in the Human Noble Origin.

>>530060764
Warhammer threads are full of Imperium #1 incels who also think their self inserts should fuck Eldar women.
Mass Effect is an example of this too in a way, the humans solve all the problems and objectively superior species like Asari want to jump on human cock. It's not just human supremacy text dumps, it goes beyond that, it's present in a lot of settings where humans are the ones who save the day, depsite objectively superior species exisiting and for plot reasons (read: to stroke the HFY reader/watcher/player's ego) they are unable to fix the problem, humans have to.

>>530044250 (OP)
>Do you like the Voidship mini game in Rogue Trader?
Yes
>How would you improve it
fix bugs and camera angles, make rounds go faster, make battles relevant to the plot.
>and would you want something similar in Dark Heresy?
yes, but we'll probably get another stupid management system instead

>>530060790
>so they couldn't have lived out their incel "exotic girl would fuck my self insert"
LITERALLY what happens in the Human Noble Origin. Not sure why you seethe about this particular topic so much but at least play the games you bitch about first.

>>530060964
>>530061361
It's not a romance. It goes nowhere.

>>530061128
HFY is a specific subset of the sci-fi fandom, though. Which is all about Humans being the strongest, toughest, most intelligent and basically chosen race who will conquer every planet, wipe out every alien, and rule the stars. And that subset of the sci-fi fandom is actually one of the most virulently against any kind of race mixing with aliens, since that would be breeding with inferiors, and they actually attack any settings that have Human- non Human romance in them as a result. It sounds like you actually do not even know what the HFY fandom is from the stuff you're writing.

>>530060964
>>530061361
Not just the human noble origin, but during the elf questline there's a side quest where you have to help some guy impress his gf so he can marry her. But you can choose to cuck him and fuck his gf instead and then gloat to his face about it. Man I miss this Bioware.

>>530060237
>>530060521
>>530060598
It's extremely lazy and should never be taken seriously whatsoever.
DMs frequently and routinely have to toss prepared material because the players do something unexpected. Very standard for the genre, devs need to embrace that (or like anon says, just make JRPGs) and in doing so, end up with a really cool game where 3rd playthrough you'll still be finding new things you didn't know were there.

>>530061445
But you didn't say "romance" you said "exotic girl would fuck my self insert" which is 100% what happens in the damn prologue. That other guy is right, at least play the games before you shitpost about them.

>>530062058
anon you're arguing with someone who uses the word "chudcel" unironically

>>530060790
>>530058756
What genuinely motivates this level of spite?

>>530062670
roastie and/or redditor

>>530061128
>objectively superior species like Asari
Literally trust fund babby species that inherited everything from Protheans
Cope, AGP-faget

>>530062670
'Tism

>>530062662
Yes but he's also a moron himself. At least 50% HFY are highschool slice of life garbage. It's like two retards fighting over who is the kind of the retards.

>>530062212
Not to defend that guy or anything (i don't even know what the fyck hfy is) but I don't think fucking a servant and a hobo, even if they are technically elves, is part of the power fantasy he's descriving. DA elves are a compeltely subservient, humiliated minority that is utterly at the mercy of humans

>>530063067
>At least 50% HFY are highschool slice of life garbage
What? Not either of them, I thought that shit was humans #1 in sci-fi or fantasy and just beat everyone and the focus is on how humans are superior.

This argument is fucking retarded. Everyone just shut the fuck up.

Praying DH has no female elf companion

>>530063668
They're too stupid to discuss anything anyway. Stuck in loops of getting mad, and then trying to make the people who did it mad.

>>530063753
Praying that corsair is a reverse trap but it is only revealed if you persue "his" romance

>>530063543
It is. And then it's about a human transfer student in some alien academy or shit self inserting their gf or their female persona on how speshul merciful and smart they are while repeating humans are persistence hunters 5000 times to the gasps and feights of assorted furries, scalies and tentacle blobs.
I actually like when I find the rare one where humans just kill shit with no shit given.

t. a faggot with chronic insomnia that reads to fall asleep

>>530063952
That's 4chan in a nutshell

>>530064189
>watches shitty anime trash
>complains that it's shitty anime trash
Have you considered not watching shitty anime trash?

>>530063370
HFY is shorthand for "Humanity Fuck Yeah", and it's a fandom that's been around for years in sci-fi circles that basically says Humans are actually hyper evolved and Earth is a super difficult planet to live on and therefore, when Humans begin exploring the galaxy they will have a huge advantage over all other alien species and easily dominate them. Basically it's "my race is superior" but instead of it being White Supremacy or Jewish Supremacy or Hindi Supremacy, it's all of Humanity as compared to alien races. Pic related is a typical HFY type post or meme.

Obviously this type is not going to like the idea of fucking aliens, since aliens by their creed are racially inferior vermin to be wiped out and destroyed by the super awesome Humans who are so much better than them in every way, so I don't know why that one guy is saying HFY types would be mad at not being able to fuck an Eldar, since it's actually the opposite, they would be mad if you COULD fuck the Eldar since race mixing is disgusting and vile to their way of thinking.

>>530064365
Sister, you failed one mother of a perception check. Read the reply chain.

>>530064648
Oh, I'm sorry, autismo-kun, let me try it again:
>reads shitty anime trash
>complains that it's shitty anime trash
Have you considered not reading shitty anime trash?

>>530064606
Yeah, about that chief...

>>530064857
Coomers gonna coom no matter the fandom it seems.

>>530064058
You wish he was female

>>530064857
What the fuck is this shit

>>530065156
Pretty much.

>>530062670
Knowing nothing about these doctrines I can safely guess that only Pranayama Rationalism makes any logical sense based on its placement

>>530064857
>AIsloppa
Expected of gooners

>>530065167
Well, yeah, that's what I said. I'll probably go after catabro anyway

Rogue Trader is too long

Yrliet you fucking retard, you are not supposed to say out loudly it's not a big deal, you fucking buffoon of an elf
Why do I even protect you? You are so fucking retarded evolution demands I eliminate you from your kinds genepool

Be thankful I became full iconoclast because of Commoragh

>>530065794
try pathfinder

>>530065947
>I became full iconoclast because of Commoragh
how did you become more retarded instead of less?? the only way that place is going down is righteous fire or chaos insurrection

>>530065947
I need a punishment where everyone on board gets to touch her face

It still makes no sense that Calcazar wouldn't use chorda for his schemes. She'd be licking his boots if only he told her to

I wonder if they're going to add this mechanic for dark heresy

is dos2 and rouge trader the best beginner crpg?
what would be the third for the holy trinity?

>>530065947
>Became full Iconoclast because of Commoragh
Explain your reasoning here. I would expect the opposite to happen, after seeing just how depraved and monstrous the Xenos really are, a shift to full Dogmatic would be more rational and logical.

>>530066943
play tiranny

>>530066943
How in the world is RT a good CRPG for a beginner?

>>530067312
I always enjoyed the idea of herekek in cumrag. Gives you that I'm not trapped in here with you vibe, also here's a giant daemon sphincter in your sky just because fuck you weirdos.

>>530066817
Especially since she more or less throws herself at Jimmy in one of his endings.

>>530067312
Well, Ulfar put doubt into the belief that the emperor is god
When getting up after being thrown into the dump my character got up to save his friends and no other reason
He collaborated with Malice after a logic test told him the commissar plan was suicide, then discovered the commissar was actually leading people into their death
He liked the Harlequin, even though he realized he was being used
Argenta's reveal put him in the situation where he rightfully should have executed a friend, but couldn't do it
Same with Yrliet, who had helped him with his meditation just before commoragh

But most importantly, he learned humility. He was a noble before, and then a basically absolute monarch, this was the first time he felt like a nobody, he had to see the beggars as equals trying to survive at first.

why don't i ever start fights with full ap in dos2?

>>530067972
Outstanding amount of mental gymnastics. You get a gold medal

>>530067972
>Well, Ulfar put doubt into the belief that the emperor is god
space wolves never believed that big E is god, like all chapters desu.

>>530067972
based character arc explorer

>>530068575
Yeah but not my character
>>530068513
They all seem pretty straightforward to me

>>530067972
>Rightfully should have executed a friend
What? Why? Theodora was a fucking Heretic who deserved what she got, which is why the Dogmatic aligned dialogue option is telling Argenta she did the right thing. Iconoclasts and Heretics would be the alignments upset about Argenta killing Theodora.

Heretic should have the option to rape

>>530068940
>Theodora was a fucking Heretic
According to Argenta, who instead of calling the inquisition to investigate killed a Rogue Trader without any proof beyond a crystal she saw
Theodora had the warrant of trade, even Solomorne, king of dogmachuds, says Argenta had no right to do that and broke the lex

>>530069095
Most evil paths in games should.

>>530069260
>who instead of calling the inquisition
>Oh, sorry for barging in, Rogue trader, i see you're too busy handling chaotic artefacts, well don't mind me, i'm just gonna go make a call
Are you retarded?

>>530069095
marazhai is right there!

argenta owes me sex for killing Theodora, that was some prime wine aunt pussy that she ruined.

>>530069473
Oh no not the heretic artefacts, not like she's ever seen anybody pick up one of them and literally just look at it for three seconds

>>530069678
Why would she have them laying around in her office?

>>530069473
Are you?
Argenta saw Theodora with a crystal in hand
She did not see her summoning a bloodthirster

She could have waited, she has waited on me doing far worse.
Theodora literally called argenta to be brought to her, so clearly she didn't think the crystal to be this preposterous thing Argenta would shoot her over immediately.

>>530069815
>she has waited on me doing far worse.
THa's the fault of shitty writing. Yes, argenta should have immediately sperged out at you too the second you start doing retarded shit

>>530069809
Why wouldn't she? Hell you yourself have a bunch of xeno and heretic related trophies that you put in your room that you pick up throughout the game. Argenta is a retard who overstepped her authority. A true Dogmatic player would execute her on the spot after she reveals the truth.

>>530070051
Maybe i'm as retarded as argenta, have you thought of that?

>>530069956
The point remains, she killed a RT over a hunch, the punishment is execution. I didn't kill her, obviously, but my point remains.

the cultists on the planet argenta was stranded on had mirrors exactly like the one she sees theodora with

i don't think she knew about the tzeench shit but she could tell theodara was delving into shit beyond their station
the funniest thing is it was something else entirely that she could've been executed for

BY THE WAY
The DLC quest is still listed as charpter 2
Did I fuck up? Did I break it permanently?

>>530070719
No, you can only finish it in chapter 4

>>530069260
Expecting due process when it comes to handling Heretical artifacts is laughable. She had every right to execute that bitch and any SoB, SM, Inquisitor, Commissar, or just about ANY Imperial character who saw Theodora using a Chaos artifact would've blammed her on the spot, same as Argenta. If you disagree you do not get how 40K works, you only get away with using Heretical shit if no one catches you doing it, regardless of your rank or position.

The Nurgle shipwrecked on that one planet is so cool, wish we got Slaanesh,Tzeentch and Khorne ones as well

>>530070276
It wasn't a "hunch" she was using a flat out Chaos artifact right in front of her, Theodora deserved to be purged.

>>530071096
No anon, a Commissar can't execute a rogue trader because he has a purple stone on his desk
>>530071252
>Theodora deserved to be purged
Sure
But with what Argenta knew at the moment, she had no right to do it
Again, I just had Solomorne make clear the law would not side with Argenta on this one.

>>530070051
That's just an example of gameplay and story not lining up. We see plenty of examples of how hoarding heretic shit never turns out well.

>>530071096
Your average comissair wouldn't know a chaos artefact from his asshole but he would kick your ass if your shirt was untucked.

I wish there was a third Pathfinder game. Yes, we already know how you feel about that Rogue Tourists.
Just felt like saying. Very doubtful we'll see anything from them in years though, but maybe some other studio will be inspired to pick things up in a similar capacity.

>>530071605
Right aside I'm amazed the bitch got both theodora and mort on the first turn with that crappy bolter she starts with.

It's funny how we can main, torture, kill, genocide, sacrifice souls to horny satan for eternal torturefucking in 40K, but we can never ever rape, be sexist or homophobic or racist towards other humans.

>>530071605
You think an Arbites has any right to decide what a SoB would do? Get the fuck out of here, Arbites do not have authority over SoB any more than they do a Space Marine. And yeah a Commissar could and would execute a Rogue Trader engaged in blatant Heresy, granted the fallout would be immense but if you think everyone is just going to shrug and ignore outright heresy, you've played RT too many times where everyone that should be objecting to heresy (or outright trying to kill you for doing it) just sits there with a blank look on their faces. Consorting with Chaos in any way shape or form is a death sentence from about a hundred different Imperium organizations if you get caught doing it.

>>530071768
I wouldn't mind a third pozzfinder game made by owlkeks but only if it didn't take place in the pozzfinder setting. That is take the mechanics but write your own world and story

>>530071768
Isn't archquest coming out soon?

>>530071923
> rape, be sexist or homophobic or racist towards other humans
Ehhhhm.... why would you want that anon? It's very problematic...

>>530071923
It's always class or mutation based (noble vs commoner, normies vs voidborn/rabble, nobles/normies vs mutatnts etc.)

>>530071923
Sexual content will never actually see the light of day in 40K, which is one of the reasons GW should've committed to their plan of deleting Slaanesh from the setting with the Ynnari. There's no point in having a deity like Slaanesh if you're never going to use them to their full potential, which is why Slaanesh content always ends up this half-assed garbage every time the faction is used or touched on.

>>530072119
why? funy

>>530071923
>chud wants to live out his fantasies
So sad

>>530072039
>You think an Arbites has any right to decide what a SoB would do?
He can give an example on how the law would interpret such a thing happening

>And yeah a Commissar could and would execute a Rogue Trader engaged in blatant Heresy
No, not over a stone on a desk, without any proof or investigation

>>530072243
But Slaanesh isn't just sex, it's excess, pride, egoism etc. Being a glutton, drug addict, obsessed perfectionist etc. All please Slaanesh. There are pleasure cults and other deviancy, but Slaanesh isn't just sexual pleasure/excess

>>530071096
>you only get away with using Heretical shit if no one catches you doing it, regardless of your rank or position.
I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a pro-inquisition or anti-inquisition statement

why does he have a girls name?

>>530072578
Come on dude

>>530072660
.........and die!!!

>>530072707
It's true. It is an aspect of it, but lust isn't Slaanesh's whole deal both in fantasy and 40K, it was utilized more in the past

>>530072578
Gooners just want it to be sex. Sex with ugly daemonettes and corrupted sisters.

>>530072578
that's cope they put on the ID card after the fact when they realized how fucked up the faction they created was
slaanesh doesn't have one (1) fat daemon in his roster but he has 20 different ones with multiple tits hanging out

>>530071923
Most media is like that. In vidya where you play the evil guy you can genocide and torture away, but you can't rape and can only be racist to fantasy races. It's not just 40K

>>530071923
Safe edgy, anon.
>>530072243
My princess deserves better than this

>>530047841
This fucked over me as well and it was my first time I went there. I thought I'm retarded and can't figure out a simple puzzle or something.
But after reloading it worked lol. If I was playing on this Ironman mode I would be fucked

>>530072969
And it just happens the aspects of her that are more palatable and less vulgar are the ones they focus on. Come on dude.

>>530072243
Vyatt's lair was implied to be sex/drugs as her logs hint at beastiality even

Is assassin kibellah any good? I get that executioner is straight better, but I kind of want other people to have a turn at some point too.

dorky ass nigga hahaha

>>530072390
It's meaningless. He has no authority over a SoB, who is fully within her rights to kill someone she's determined is a Heretic. And there is no need for "due process" there, either, Heretics get executed on sight for a reason, you don't give them a trial.

>>530073976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEGo41443iI

>>530073669
>I get that executioner is straight better,
You have literally never used assassin or made a build in your entire time playing the game huh?

>>530073976
>who is fully within her rights to kill someone she's determined is a Heretic.
a fucking rogue trader? in the middle of a warp breach where even her own actions are suspect to being manipulated? are you fucking mental?

>>530073976
>who is fully within her rights to kill someone she's determined is a Heretic
> Heretics get executed on sight for a reason
Yes, until the local lord inquisitor determines the SoB was a heretic who assassinated the RT to sow chaos and has her killed.
You do realize it's more complicated than just shooting nobility and then using heresy as justification right?

abelard UPVOTE THAT NIGGA!!! pasqal engage the reddit gold protocols!!!

>>530074116
You have literally never used executioner or made a build in your entire time playing the game huh?

>>530073593
>Implied
Yeah exactly, half-assed garbage, as I said. It's always this way with Slaanesh stuff, it's just hinted at or danced around or wink wink nudge nudge bullshit because they cannot and will not ever actually put sexual content into 40K material, so it begs the question as to why you have Slaanesh around to begin with in the setting if you're never going to commit to the idea.

>>530074325
>um! g-gulp!!.. n-no you??
It's ok little buddy, we all read epic haxxor youtube UNFAIR READY 40 minute guides sometime

>>530074432
goge vandire and his brides of the empire that were totally just dancers and guards and stuff

>>530074432
Just watch porn

>>530074224
Since Theodora was in fact a Heretic (on multiple levels) Argenta is justified completely and totally. The only way what Argenta did could have been a mistake is if Theodra was not, in fact, a Heretic, but she was so nothing of value was lost and Argenta did the right thing. It's just that simple.

>>530073319
The funniest part is my Abelard had a whole bunch of base deflection and kept eating the damage for 0. The old geezer could've taken a nap there in between trying to plasma the floor open.

>>530072578
>>530072578
>>530073037
>I AM A CHAMPION OF SLAANESH AND I WANNA BE THE GREATEST DUELIST/SWORDSMAN IN THE GALAXY

>>530073669
>I kind of want other people to have a turn at some point too.
rogue traders combat is just easy as shit its not gonna stop that

>>530074510
>Everybody else is wrong. Only I know how to make a build
okay

theodora doesn't strike me as innately stupid, I don't think she would let argenta into her chambers if she thought she was doing something others would find wrong
she just badly miscalculated the depths of argenta's stupidity

Does it buss?

>>530074540
If you want a genocide, go find some African Village in the Sahara

>>530074593
We are not discussing wether argenta was in the right, we are discussing if there would be grounds for her execution in commoragh on the viewpoint of the RT and his crew, and there are.

As I said, I didn't kill her.

>>530074540
You're just agreeing with me that Slaanesh should be removed, if that's your argument.

>>530074716
>>530074747
You just want rape to be everywhere because it gets your pp hard. The Japanese make a lot of hentai games like this you should check it out.

>>530074432
slaanesh is fucked up /d/ tier fetishshit

>>530074630
>what. the... SCIENCE!? the wargame has.. warpeople??
Yes, anon, it does.
Maybe they rape people or whatever but it's the same reason you seldom see pleasure worlds.
We've even had an obese fat slaanesh nigger in one book, but he was still a fighter.

>>530074432
Slaanesh is supposed to be the god of excess and over indulgence not just le wacky sex and porn.

>>530064189
Try reading The Road Not Taken

autism

>slaanesh targets autists
oh. oh no

>>530074962
intelligenceCHADS with a good old lighthearted joke while nerdCHUDS spew all that babble
brave styg

Most people are okay with mass violence but not sex-based crimes. This is not a unique trait limited to Chudhammer.

>>530074432
I don't think slaanesh should deal in outright porn because your judgement is incredibly impaired while your cock is blooded and it will let the devs of whatever bullshit you're perusing to get away with the stupidest contrivances

>>530074734
No there aren't. There's no grounds to kill someone over executing a Heretic unless you, yourself, are a Heretic.

>>530075141
>There's no grounds to kill someone over executing a Heretic unless
Not him but you fundamentally misunderstand 40K as a setting, the grounds are "I have the authority to do so" and "I have reasons I consider enough"

>>530075048
God they wish. I assume most of them would fall for Nurgle.

>>530074850
also that yes
i liked sinisistar and orisries looks like fun but i don't want to grind gacha

>>530067972
Based roleplayer

>>530074850
Are you fucking retarded? My whole point is that Slaanesh should be removed because GW will NEVER commit to the sex aspect of Slaanesh so why does Slaanesh even exist in the setting to begin with? You're just saying sexy times shouldn't exist in 40K, which is already the case, which means you're agreeing that Slaanesh should be deleted, or at least have the sexual aspect removed since they'll never do anything with it.

>>530074907
Then why are all the fat people nurgle worshippers?

>>530075356
>>530075094
NOO WHERES MY MASS RAPE

>>530072578
>but Slaanesh isn't just sexual pleasure/excess
True, but it's very hard to show any of those vices that would elicit as visceral reaction in people as sex

>>530075356
>so why does Slaanesh even exist in the setting to begin with?
Because they're the god of excess?

>>530075414
because theyre bloated from disease, someone who loves eating too much would be a slaanesh worshipper

>>530074907
The only attribute Slaaneshi champions in 40K ever actually have is narcissism, GW never actually plays with the themes of excess or self indulgence whatsoever. Which is why Slaanesh is the most boring and pointless Chaos God in the setting, since due to the constraints on how Slaanesh is written there's no point to them existing. Which again is GW should've followed through with their plan and removed Slaanesh from the setting.

If you knowingly hire someone who casually kills people and participates in ridiculous death games for a living, maybe think twice before you do anything that can be considered hostile.

Cunt.

>>530072660
She's trans
You bigot

>>530075356
because slaanesh isnt just le porn its one aspect that fits the theme of excess and theres tons of ways to depict excess without getting your game banned everywhere

>>530075494
That angle is stupid and retarded and leads to what you see happening in the thread, dumbo
"OMG FREAKING HECKING SEX?? YOU HAVE SEX YOU'RE SLAANESH??"
No, nurgle isn't the god of shitting either
It's too broad, the gods are formed out of emotions primarily, having "sex" be all slaanesh is about is stupid, being addicted to sex or whatever sure but otherwise it leads to "ermm how can humanity reproduce if slaanesh le sex??"

>>530075494
This. The 40K setting is all about vulgarity to the point of parody. I don't even care for the porn, but the hypocrisy is annoying. Why the fuck is a pus ridden, mutated freak acceptable, but an orgy not?
>>530075554
How do you think people become fat anon?

>>530075586
>40k
fantasy doesn't have this problem

>>530072660
I prefer his beta introduction.

>>530074224
>Yes, until the local lord inquisitor determines the SoB was a heretic who assassinated the RT to sow chaos and has her killed.
Luckily for us the local lord inquisitor doesn't care

>>530075356
Slaanesh has themes other gods fall short in and sex stuff is fine to keep on the backburner for fans to intuit on their own
I don't know why you're so buttmad it can't be all rape all the time
>why didn't they find the 2nd and 11th primarchs?? should just remove this stupid clutter!!

>>530075459
lol
lmao
Ok you're retarded.

>>530075517
Excess in what? What attributes of excess and the themes of it do Slaaneshi characters and champions have going for them in 40K? Because from what I've read they have nothing aside from narcissism that defines them, every other Chaos God and their champions are far more interesting since they actually have coherent themes that can be explored and utilized in the context of 40K.

>>530075703
>How do you think people become fat anon?

>>530075586
40K is a combat setting and we do indeed mostly see combatants, it makes sense that most slaaneshi folks are driven towards things that could be battle-applicable (like noisemarines)
I don't really see how they could introduce characters based around sex or whatever when the story 90% of the time is people killing eachother
Talk about slaanesh cults having sex sure, but do they never do that? I don't really care about chaos outside of the nurgle and nightlords books so I wouldn't know

>>530075857
idira is the only one that cared at all lol. abelard just sighs and goes "it is what it is"

>>530076020
Do you think fat people hate food?

>>530075690
Ok give me examples of how GW has explored the themes of excess with Slaaneshi characters or stories.

>>530075745
Eh although Fantasy is generally the better written setting the Slaaneshi characters suffer from the same issue there, pic related is just "I am so BEAUTIFUL and COOL and SEXY I just LOVE myself" and that's pretty much his entire characterization, again narcissism is the only real trait GW ever gave Slaaneshi champions.

>>530075951
>Excess in what? What attributes of excess and the themes of it do Slaaneshi characters and champions have going for them in 40K?
Aside from the obvious pride you keep mentioning, there's drugs of course, pain/pleasure as you can see by the whole BDSM theme (look at fulgrim and his cute leather straps he's such a faggot), noise marines are all about excess of sensation, there's art mentioned here and there (of the fucked up kind), there's food (as we've seen in the book with the fat fuck eating eldar spirit stones)
I can't think of a sex one to be fair, sure, but still

>>530075586
theyre supposed to be champions not pornstars. a slaaneshi champion would pursue excess in killing, torture, conquering, etc not creating porn films

I love Slaanesh discussion because it's always the same discussion for the last 10+ years
>"sex should be much bigger theme for Slaanesh!"
>"actually Slaanesh isn't about sex, its excess!"
>"so why do we only ever see Slaanesh in the representation of drugs,duelist or food and nothing else?"
>"just watch porn weirdo"
same discussion every time because puritan niggers gets offended with any mention of sex
>>530075691
Have you ever seen /fit/ or /k/ people being obsessed with what they do? It borders on some weird sex fetish a majority of times, Slaanesh at its core is sex in a lot of way but GW can't represent those themes because burgers gets offended whenever you introduce those themes in your world

>>530076216
fabius bile likes to experiment on shit a bit too much. don't medicae docs have a risk of falling to slaanesh when they get too lost in the sauce with the intricacies of the human body and all the ways to make people feel pain

>>530075951
>every other Chaos God and their champions are far more interesting
>*posts khorne*
Okay, it's bait. You're baiting. Come on out Tzeentch, you had everybody fooled.

>>530075596
All of you northerners smell like bitch to me!

>>530075302
All neets and incels are chaos undevided. They hvae enough rage in them to go on sjooting sprees, they don't shower or clean up, half of them are disgusting trannies (that checks both slaanesh and nurgle boxes) and think of themselves as very smart ebin trolls

>They wont include porn on the level of Swarmfag's comms
Remove this god please!!!

>>530076443
wat gemu?

>>530076330
>>"so why do we only ever see Slaanesh in the representation of drugs,duelist or food and nothing else?"
>lists many things
>"and nothing else?"
You mean "and not sex?" there

>>530075950
You are fucking retarded. Let me spell it out for you, see if you can actually read this time:

My whole point is that the sex is nonexistent and will always be nonexistent, and GW never gave Slaanesh a real identity or did anything with the supposed other themes Slaanesh has, so why the fuck is Slaanesh even one of the Chaos Gods? They're superfluous and pointless. I am not advocating for sexual content to be present in 40K, (it never will be) I am advocating for the removal of Slaanesh since they're a garbage deity that the setting would be better off without.

>>530076484
Underrail
man, has this entire thread just been Owlcat and RT?

>>530076330
it's actually kind of comical, but it does solidify it as an IP for manchildren in many heads, kind of like boys with action figures who think kissy stuff gives you cooties

>>530076512
>and GW never gave Slaanesh a real identity or did anything with the supposed other themes Slaanesh has
They have though, you just keep repeating "ok but it's not sex!" when people say so

>>530076452
so does that mean lorgar was the supreme incel?

I like the beastmen of warhammer fantasy. I was never told they rape, but they do. It's completely obvious from how they propagate. I was never mad GW didn't delve into their raping habits, because why would I be? It's an obvious and benign part of what they do that I don't need details on.

>>530075691
Ok, not sure why you're replying to me though since your reply has got nothing to do with what I said

>>530076608
RT is owlcat. So just Owlcat.

>>530076330
its because le wacky sex is just one aspect of the god of excess and if they depict it like you wanted their IP would be banned everywhere

>>530076275
lol
lmao
I like how you post Fulgrim which just PROVES MY POINT, you genuinely cannot find a single fun or interesting story with a Slaaneshi character because Slaanesh is such a pointless and shit god with pointless and shit characters. Why are they still present in the setting? You could easily have the other three take over the plot narratives they serve like their antagonism with the Eldar, so that's not a valid reason to keep them around either.

>>530076387
T'zeentch really should be the coolest Chaos God but he never will be since a smart character requires smart writers to be cool, and GW simply does not have that on staff.

>Chaos Gods
>Complex and Multi-faceted
lol
lmao

>>530076864
>you genuinely cannot find a single fun or interesting story with a Slaaneshi character because Slaanesh is such a pointless and shit god with pointless and shit characters
Because... it's not about rape/sex ?
You just freaking love it when khornigger number 9000 freaking kills people n shit all over ?

>>530076452
How the fuck is Nurgle a god of trannies?

>>530076034
I feel like Calcazar even welcomed the death of theodora since a young inexperienced rogue trader would be easier to control. And I have zero doubt he knew Aregnta was the one who did it, because if Heinrix knew, then of course Calcazar also knew.
Back when the game was first release one of the anons on /v/ had a theory that initially Theodora was supposed to be killed by Calcazar, not Argenta, and I think his theory makes sense

how do I kill aurora
that mother just two shots my party

>>530077036
mostly the dilating ones but I don't think the rest are amenable to showers either

>>530076947
khorne and nurgle are very simple, tzeentch and slaanesh are complex

hehe

>>530076864
>smart
Tzeentch is not smart and neither are his followers, they are schemers
Tzeentch is the god of self-sabotage (shares this with nurgle actually), having an oceans 11 with it would be non-fitting actually

>>530077140
Taunt him with abelard in a direction that doesn't face your party, spam exploits with pasqal and expose vulnerability on him and whittle him down, try to keep abelard alive and taunting by any means necessary

>>530076676
No they have not. They never actually do anything with these supposed "other themes" which is blatantly obvious when you just glance through a list of Slaaneshi characters. Why you are dead set on defending one of the worst and most atrociously written and implemented parts of 40K is beyond me, the setting would be significantly improved if Slaanesh was removed from it entirely.

>>530076216
This guy never fails to make me laugh. Like he specifically left his dong and ass cheeks unarmoured probably so that nothing would impede his boner when he's killing and being a perfect swordsman and shit

>>530065794
it will be even longer

>>530077352
Why can't they make a DLC that fixes the last acts. Too late content?

>>530076689
Obviously

>>530072660
>t.

>>530077269
>just as planned!!!... wait no!!!!
>actually cool chaos god.jpg

>>530077551
The last two docs will be end game content and fixing the heretic path.

>>530076695
They actually do detail the fact they rape humans in the codex material, though. Same with Fimir.

>>530076695
Beastcoomers on /twg/ had books worth if rape fantasies, furshit and pseudo-bbc spam in the good old archive

>>530077036
Have you ever seen their axewounds? Or the absolulte squalor they live in?

How long until dark heresy comes out?

>>530077669
Fake news.

>>530067484
NTA but it's really easy. But algebra and lack of cinematic values ruins it's appeal for newbies. Previously DA:O was the perfect cRPG to break hymen of noobs willing to try the genre, now it was replaced by BG3.

But in spite of those scary looking skill and item descriptions I believe Rogue Trader could easily compete with BG3 if it had AAA values and budget like it did.

>>530077807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MELFuY6rSEs

How much longer until solasta 2 comes out?

>>530077706
Well that's why I'd only make that kind of post outside /twg/. Experience taught me unfamiliar ground is the best way to avoid all too familiar schizo meltdowns. Hell, it used to be that way for posting warhammer on /twg/ as well compared to the threads on /tg/.

>>530077015
Slaanesh will never have a character like Lorgar, Perturabo or Magnus that actually gets a real, genuine character arc and shows a reflection of the vices their god represents. Fulgrim is literally just "lmao possessed by demon sword!", it's so badly written and executed it's laughable. He doesn't have any exploration of the supposed themes of Slaanesh outside of MAYBE being too self absorbed, and I already pointed out that's the only trait Slaanesh characters ever get, narcissism, and even that isn't really explored in any interesting or fun way. Garbage god with garbage characters.

>>530077669
yep just like they fixed wotr and all the underbaked paths in it

>>530077807
devs didn't say anything, but imo maybe expect it late 2026 or early 2027
We will get alpha and beta tests

>>530077669
Argenta romance coming in dlc 3

>>530077632
Yes, such hijinks are amusing and fun, two things Slaanesh will never be.

>>530078056
>chaos TRICKED him! hehehe!
>he was mad that he was being given bad missions but decided to not say anything... and then fell to chaos hahaha!
>chaos TRICKED him! hehehe!

>>530078056
>schizo falls to slaanesh by being obsessed with slaanesh as the black sheep
personally I think you'd make a good champion anon

>>530078130
It would instantly become the best selling DLC Owlcat ever made, but they are too stupid to do it so it will never happen.

>someone asks Werglia on end of Lex stream "Did the DLC add Argenta romance"
>Werg replies "No, they didn't and honestly man I don't give a fuck about romance in CRPGs if it were up to me I'd remove them"
HOLY BASED

>>530078412
who?

>>530078412
Well, he's not an incel, so it makes sense

>>530078412
I don't know who that eceleb is

>>530077224
man bossfights in owlcat games suck so fucking much

>>530078412
He's married and not a terminally online virgin waifufag. So that's expected

didnt play floptrader, i only play finished games

>>530078576
They are getting better in rt. The dlc battles are all good
>>530078642
So you only play 20 year old games?

crazy bg3 generals talks more about crpga than owljeet general

>>530078689
20 years ago games tended to release finished

>>530078576
Yeah, it's a genuine shame. Too many retard awed by particle effects to care about substance though, so that's probably in part why they're moving to ARPGs

>>530078642
>I just play no games

>>530078412
I'm surprised that a guymbro like him is into build autism and these types of games

>tfw no Slaaneshi champion with a harem of alien women to satisfy his xeno fetish
>tfw no Slaaneshi champion with sister of battle slaves he trains into obedience
>tfw no Slaaneshi alcoholic seeking to make the greatest beer known to man

owlSAARS I don't know if I want to make my character a pyromancer psyker who goes all in on pyromancy or if I want to make my character a biomancy psyker who uses a mace and shield... what do you think is a cooler concept?
On one hand I've never experienced a completely psy-based playthrough so the itemization progression would be interesting to see, but also the biomancy side of things would make me experience the new shields and the item progression of those...
Thoughts? If you reply with some shitty youtube guide-tier advice I'll cut off your balls

>>530078840
this is basically just warhammer 40k seething general

>>530078536
>>530078615
This. Mortismal who is also a functioning married human male responds to people asking him about romance with "That's just not my thing, I won't give an indepth review of those, if you like it it's there"
Only incels care about waifuism.

>>530079105
>>tfw no Slaaneshi champion with a harem of alien women to satisfy his xeno fetish
Slaanesh does not deal in satisfaction, it's the whole point of the god (and chaos really)
Said champion would be doing things like beheading his 'harem' while putting his dick into a meatgrinder
>>tfw no Slaaneshi champion with sister of battle slaves he trains into obedience
Like above, maybe torture and brain surgery or something
>>tfw no Slaaneshi alcoholic seeking to make the greatest beer known to man
Beer made out of fermented shit or somesuch
Slaanesh is genuinely ass as fuck, I wish it upon no man

>>530078412
hes right romance is retarded and should be removed

>>530076675
maybe if we had a women writer do Slaanesh black library stuff it would be seen as more socially acceptable
>>530076836
>its because le wacky sex is just one aspect of the god
I don't agree with this at all, sex is a core them of Slaanesh in the same way that Khorne have blood and skulls
>if they depict it like you wanted their IP would be banned everywhere
I don't disagree, there's a reason why Nurgle and Khorne is the posterboys for anything chaos in both Fantasy and 40K, they are easy and "safe" to show
>>530076947
>>Complex and Multi-faceted
Khorne tempting Rogal Dorn is probably the most complex and unique way a god has been represented in 40K, too bad the average 40K retard thought it was "boring"

>>530079336
Could you imagine how peaceful these threads would be if no one was fuckable? Heaven.

>>530079289
why is slaanesh a blend of deldar, nurgal, and khorne to you?

>>530079218
Mortismal said veilguard was one of the best games he's ever played

>>530079105
>tfw no Slaaneshi alcoholic seeking to make the greatest beer known to man
This is basically Ku'gath if he cleaned himself up a bit

Did no one at Owlcat truly tell Marazhai's author how IMPOSSIBLE it is to keep the nigger alive?
I genuinely want to speak with his writer, I need to understand what the thought process was

"He killed a bunch of innocents the literal nanosecond he was on the ship but you know what, we will lock him in a cabin with Yrliet and it will all be alright!"

>>530079105
That's just drukeks only they pretend they're not slaanesh champions (of course they are)

>>530079451
Nothing I said has anything to do with nurgle or khorne, nurgle isn't the god of shit, he deals in disease and stagnation, khorne isn't the god of torture (he doesn't even do torture) he's the god of rage and violent killing
Slaanesh is the god of excess, you stop feeling anything from what you're currently doing so you're forced to become more extreme like I listed
Making paints with blood and shit on canvas made out of skin is an actual listed slaaneshi activity

>>530079461
Thats the average waifufag begging for Argenta and elf sex

>>530079460
>if a man is right about one thing he can't be wrong about another
brainlet

>>530079576
>corrupt my freight line with nurgle AIDS
>let marazhai loose, killing all the heretics
>inquisition can't get mad at me manipulating the xenos into killing chaos
Problem Heinrix?

>>530079576
Did you forget to read any of his dialog before you recruited him
As far as he's aware these people are just mooks you don't care about (and they usually are, they're literal slaves)
To him humans are apes besides for the odd exception, that's why you can tell him to knock it off or to get help from yrliet on dealing with warp shit

>>530079289
>Khorne champion wouldn't kill, that's not what he's about
>Nurgle champion wouldn't spread disease, that's not what he's about
>Slaanesh champion wouldn't fuck, that's not what she's about
Sure

>>530079885
That's not what he's asking, daft-kun

>>530079947
>things nobody has said: the post
Alrite

crazy owljeets slurp up shit that gets more unfinished with each iteration and shame you for not eating shit. wotr had 3 finished act, roguetrader had 1, their next game will be early access then just released any way like bannerlord

>>530044250 (OP)
Is Star Trek Online a " computer roleplaying game?

>>530079984
My post was in response to him being taken aback by marazhai of all people killing the random shitters in your ship, of course he did (assuming you read the game's dialog)
That shouldn't be a surprise, neither should the dialog options, there's even one for "oh my science not my slaves! i'll kill you!", I'm more of saying his complaint is a little silly

>>530079885
I am not claiming his writing is incosistent, I am claiming if you are going to make a companion, you SHOULD make him at least SOMEWHAT appealing to have in your retinue.
In commoragh? Fair game, you need to escape
But afterwards he outlived his usefulness, and THE FIRST THING he does is massacre your crew, you have to do mental olympics to keep him alive at that point.

>>530079576
They probably thought "i need to write an obligatory evil ex-antagonist party member, so i'm not gonna put in any effort into it, since nobody's gonna recruit him anyway".
Giving you a reason to keep him around would have been so easy too, but, like many other things in the game, they've botched it.

>>530079576
Hes one of my favorites, not a problem

>>530076216
Sigvald executes that trope the best out of all of them. But surprise, just like in 40k the good slaanesh content is locked with the elves again
>morathi
>tz'arkan
>n'kari's fixation on aenarion's spawn

>>530080231
>you have to do mental olympics to keep him alive at that point
Not really, like I said he didn't kill anybody important. If you have some manner of indignation over the obvious thing that was going to happen you're even still given the option to kill him

>>530080207
>I'm more of saying his complaint is a little silly
Not really, just because something makes sense doesn't mean it's a good game design choice.

They didn't need to write him like this, from act 2 to this point.
It's as simple as him promising to lead me to a source of drukhari raid in exchange for his life, giving me a reason to spare him. It's really that simple.

when does the story in rogue trader start to get good? it feels super lackluster

>>530080231
If it makes you feel better him killing your crew doesn't do anything.

>>530080476
>the game should roleplay for me and give me an out to the consequence of my actions
Why?

Second playthrough in a row jae quest got bugged for me. I never got the head in a box event
>>530080581
That's the problem, innit?

>>530080537
The main plot is lackluster
You have to live it like a villain of the week thing

>>530079336
>>530079407
Unironically, 80% of the shitflinging and low quality posts in the threads are because of romancefagggotry

>>530080401
>he didn't kill anybody important.
He can kill one of bridge officers but that's only on his romance path. And still it doesn't matter. The dead character still shows up for final act dialogue.

>>530080202
Sure.
The romulan story was actually pretty fun.

>>530080613
>the game should roleplay for me and give me an out to the consequence of my actions
Are you retarded? That's not my point, I am discussing game design on a game discussion general, it's not something I am asking for my personal benefit
>Why?
Because you are wasting time and money making a companion and then you make it impossible to keep around unless you are roleplaying a very specific 1% of characters character

Wotr didn't have this issue, nor did Kingmaker

>>530080904
>Wotr didn't have this issue
Sir, your wendog?

Seriously though, what is the point of romance in CRPGs?

>>530080823
>The dead character still shows up for final act dialogue.
SOUL
even in death he still serves

>>530079407
>no one has sex appeal if they aren't written to take dick!
Doesn't stop gachafags, why would it here?

>>530081007
playing the role of someone that is loved, something that most crpg players will never know irl

>>530081007
To make lonely and ugly people feel better about themselves

>>530079672
>Slaanesh is the god of excess
>you stop feeling anything from what you're currently doing
So she's... the god or anhedonia and boredom?
If Slaanesh cultists feel nothing, why do they continue doing things?

>>530080904
>Wotr didn't have this issue, nor did Kingmaker
Wendufag literally says she'll betray you
Jaethal is an evil undead

>>530081007
that's how i feel about companions/companion based content in general instead of spending it on the main story
get some real fucking friends

>>530080998
Wendog promises you an army
What exactly is Marazhai promising me to keep him alive at this point in the game?
If I'm heretic, I'm leaving him to slaanesh
If I'm iconoclast he killed innocents
If I'm dogmatic... yeah

He can only stay if you RP an evil noble who is however not heretical, but an unaligned evil person
This is like, 2% of playtroughs, why would you make a companion for that?

>>530081169
For your next trick you should attempt reading past the thing you quoted

>>530081169
I feel like you're being purposefully obtuse, but i'll give you a real answer because i'm just that nice: they continue to up the ante in an attempt to feel things. Like how you graduate from handholding sex porn, to anal, to gay, and finally to tranny midget porn

>>530080323
The reason is he's fucking your ass.
>B-but I don't want him to fuck my ass!
Then why did you recruit him?

>>530081007
You have forced my hand.

Romancefaggotry is literally the number one reason behind RPG popularity and pretty much always has been. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend Baldur's Gate 2 wasn't way more successful than Icewind Dale because the latter was essentially just a top down combat simulator while the former gave you dark elf pussy and let you defeat a god at his own game.
The only thing people remember from the base game Neverwinter Nights campaign is wanting to fuck Aribeth and the most memorable part of its expansion is that you can not only bang her but also end up in a harem end with the bad bitch drow assassin.
What's the biggest discussion topic for final fantasy 7? Tifa vs Aerith.
What's the biggest discussion topic for every purse owner game? Who's best girl. Asuka vs Rei is eternal for a reason.
Secondaries only know about Baldur's Gate 3 but in Original Sin 2 it was the same shit flinging over Sibelle vs Lohse, original sin 1's endings are focused over whether or not your main characters forged a soulforge between each other or not.
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic is remembered for its kick button and Xana's surprisingly loyal and devoted succubus ass.

It turns out that in a genre defined by "slay the dragon, get the girl, be a hero" people care about the "get the girl" part of the fairytale.

>>530081296
>Wendog promises you an army
The subhuman mongrel who SAYS she'll betray you and who has zero friends let alone allies... promises you an army
HOLY KEKOLA at wendufags
Mental olympics

>>530081171
>wenduag
Promises you an army
>Jaethal is an evil undead
And? You can be evil in pathfinder, my problem with him is not that he's evil.
The issue is that if you are evil in RT there is a high chance you are a chaosfag, meaning he dies from the daemonette promising you power, because again, he offers you nothing but sex.

They clearly didn't think it trough when making him. I hope if DH has a drukhari they consider their options a little bit better.

>>530081296
You get a useful xeno assassin servant all for the price of some ship fodder going missing once in a while, only an iconocuck would care its actually a pretty good deal.

>>530081007
Fanservice pandering to tumblr firls and lonely incels hoping they'll buy the game/DLCs because of 30 min to an hour of romance content

>>530081296
>If I'm heretic, I'm leaving him to slaanesh
Deldar do more good to Slaanesh alive than dead. He can give you pointers. Or just entertain. Heretics don't need a pragmatic reason to keep him around, chaosfags chase insane whims constantly.

>>530081007
Fun wish fulfillment, however romancefags make it the only thing they care about and its annoying. They spazz out if a female character isn't to their specific fetish and scream about how the devs hate them.

>really dumb and retarded post chain
>wenduag-apologist
Like cockwork

>>530081475
A CE tard will take that over lawful lann
in the context of the game's universe, the paths the game offers etc it works.

>>530081296
Yeah there's a reason almost no one actually used him. Doesn't help you only get access to him in Act 3, which is when RT as a whole starts to fall apart anyways. Still, the same can be said of Ulfar and he's still 30% ahead of Marazhai.

>>530081670
A CE tard will kill wenduag on the spot
A LE tard will kill wenduag on the spot

>>530081524
>useful xeno assassin servant
I already have that in kebab and the spinners. He's a disgraced exile that has no army and is completely dependant on your support. Politiclaly speaking he's the most useless companion in the game along with yrliet. And if you don't suck his dick he fucks off after the game ends and you don't even benefit from giving him his kabal back. So again: where's the usefullness?

>>530081846
>chaotic evil is... le murderhobo

>>530081007
Additional roleplay option and expansion of a character's story. I don't mind romance, I usually do it when it's available if it makes sense for my character. The annoying thing is the waifufags who obsess over it, turning it the only thing they talk about regarding the game and seething when they dislike it - see Yrliet.

>>530081670
A CE tard would think they could manipulate Lann. Wendog is a liability no matter what alignment you play as.

>>530081007
Semi serious answer that is not a copypasta:
For many rpgs, writers immerse you into the world with predefined companions.
They have opinions and perspectives of their own, plus possible struggles, development, etc.
And if they try to add some weight/reactivity to the interactions, you can change them for better or for worse.
As has been proven many tiems in general, many players enjoy character focused content, not just in RPGs.

Romance is one extra step for people to appreciate teh characters presented and it makes an alluring end goal for a part of the audience (aka, waifufaggots). It's not like romance in general has been absent from videogame stories, but they used to be part of a linear narative, not an option in roleplaying games as much

This has been the cause of some problems, like attracting the worst kidn of fans, writers who use teen romance guideliens to hook you with a character and nothing else of value and its absence in itself considered less content/effort somehow.

>>530081982
>A CE tard would think they could manipulate Lann
Yeah, or Wenduag
If manipulated, Wenduag gives you an half demonic army
She's 100% easier to justify than Marazhai

>>530081925
>oh my science you killed my old master! umm.. umm don't kill me because um aiiieee i'll hekkin follow you (hehehe snicker snicker crosses fingers behind back looks to the side hides a dagger under boot haha snicker snicker)
>nooooooo you'll just have to TAKE HER BECAUSE YOU JUST HAVE TO it just MAKES SENSE!
Nope. She offers nothing but trouble.

>>530081925
Funny because Wenduag is the closest thing the game has to a murderhobo.
>>530082091
>Manipulate Wendog
>The backstabbing cunt who already tried to kill you once
Yeah no.

>>530081748
Ulfar is a space marine tho, like it or not, those are the most popular guys in the setting. If he was some other human or xeno, he would be sitting at around 40%

>>530082169
>homeless
>murders for a living
Ahem

>>530081748
It's also his archetype. Ulfar gives you an alternative to abelard. Marzahai is just the latest choice in an already crowded field that you've built up by hand. Kibbles and solomourne just make that problem worse too.

>Can't leave the tavern after finishing jae's quest
Very nice

>>530082269
Greybor's a professional. Wendog does it FOR FREE.

>hobo who just tried to shank you falls to his knees and goes BWAAAAHHHH SORRY KC-SAMA I'LL CHANGE I SWEAR (looks to the side snickering with crossed fingers) I'LL GIVE YOU AN ARMY EVEN!! (has no allies) JUST TRUST ME!! (says this laughing)
>"no bro it's like justified because _______"

>Kill the pirate boss
>everything turns into warp beast
>I lose
So if I'm getting this right the best way to do the dlc pirate boss fight is
>have ablelard or Jimmy just rush and tank all the damage to turn off the ship warp
>Kill all the the other pirates first while the captain just keeps nuking you with his pyro abilities
>Kill the captain last then rush the chaos beast he turns into

>>530082358
>I'LL GIVE YOU AN ARMY EVEN!! (has no allies)
You literally just saw in the labirinth that she can
If she doesn't you can just kill her
At least she is offering SOMETHING

>>530082269
Hey he's not homeless, he's just not at home

I think Idira is hot, but find Jae unattracive

>>530082436
Imagine actually having trouble beating any combat in this game.

Please tell me where in the toybox I need to click to teleport to another location since I'm stuck

>>530082091
Why would anyone give a fuck about having a mutant army at that point? You're not knight commander at that point. You're just some rando who fell into a hole.

>>530082524
She has like 3 goyim that you slaughter, and they were empowered by the demon you (presumably, at the time) killed. The rest are completely feral and cannot tell friend from foe (try to kill you and her even).
You see no such thing. She offers nothing but empety promises (as far as you can reasonably tell) and further betrayal. Lann literally spells it out.

>>530082641
first page

>>530082837
Thank you

>>530081373
Why would anyone worship a deity whose outward image is cultists sticking their dicks in meat grinders, and whose inner mystery is that the meat grinder actually gets really boring after the first go and you have to do something else instead?
The Chaos Gods are retarded.

>>530082673
Why wouldn't you have aspirations of megalomania in a medieval shithole overrun with demons? That's your ticket to comfy living.

>>530083023
Like with every chaos god, their specifics are not widely known nor are they widely paraded, you get roped into a cult slowly
The average person doesn't know what the chaos gods are at all

>>530083023
There are people unironically into that anon

>>530083043
Cause you're currently desperately fighting for your life in a city overrun with said demons? Cause the mongrels are mutant freaks with no combat experience?

>>530083043
>no bro I'm sorry I'll give you an army and shit trust!!

I just killed Vyatt and decided to not honour my food deal so I could take the Dogmatic choice but it required me to side with someone I haven't met yet who I looked up was some other Rogue Trader, was I supposed to go somewhere else before Janus?

>>530083286
>cause you're currently in a combat situation where an army would help?
>cause the mongrels are disfigured and will thus be easy to manipulate under your clemency?
Yes to both.

Don't about give a fuck about autistic youtubers, my wife kibbles is cute

>>530083485
No

>>530083674
How the fuck does my guy know to give the food to that person then? I haven't had a single conversation with them

>>530083537
An army of crippled civvies? The same civvies Wenduag's been selling out to demons? The same civvies Lann also is offering to you? Come on dude. Set aside your mental gymnastics and just admit there's no RP reason to take Wenduag along.

>>530083485
You've met her messenger, No you can not meet other rogua traders until later int he game

>>530083758
You heard about chorda, pay attention

>>530083789
>he same civvies Lann also is offering to you?
No, he's not offering them magically enhanced
If you are an evil wizard that's your jam

>>530083105
So what's her selling point? What would someone outside her cult, e.g. the player character, be likely to see?
>>530083215
Well, they're not gonna be into it after they start serving Slaanesh, are they?

>>530083920
Magically enhanced by demons. The same demons you're fighting.

>>530083985
>What would someone outside her cult, e.g. the player character, be likely to see?
Some kind of weird society or group offering you wenches and drugs and food, until you're in too deep

>gold dragon mythic quest is a fetch quest
Damn they really ran out of ideas at this point

>>530083850
>>530083854
I must not be paying attention because I don't remember hearing about them at all and every messenger I've met in the game so far has died from some enemy off screen after I've spoken to them for all of 5 seconds

>>530083789
If I take Lann along I have to worry about gay shit like "rights," even if I demonize them he will attempt to fix them. Wenduag is scum but everyone underground vaguely hates her so it will be easier to supersede her authority with my own.
>crippled civvies
Everyone's a civvie before they pick up a weapon. I dunno why you think the demon blood is a crippling factor.

>>530084025
Yes
And?
Again, do you think an evil wizard would not look into that?

>>530084113
Umm I think you mean fetchKINOS
>>530084134
He gets exploded by a sniper rifle

>>530084134
Before arriving on Footfall you could ask Abelard to give you a qrd on the expanse and other rogue traders. He tells you then. You meet the messenger after talking to Tocara, and yes, he gets shot and killed after relaying Chorda's offer

>>530084149
Your first impression of Lann is he's a naive idiot who literally thinks you've been blessed by the angels. Your first impression of Wendog is she's a cynical backstabby cunt who will sell you out the first chance you get. And you're arguing choosing Wendy is the logical choice. Just think about that for a second.
>>530084203
Uh because most people wouldn't trust demon worshipers not to betray them to the demons? Although, considering how adamantly you're trying to justify taking Wenduag along, I guess betrayal isn't that big an issue for you.

>>530084340
Oh right I figured the deal wasn't still ongoing since his head exploded shortly after he told me about the deal

Motherfucking bastard bitch which augur do I need to pierce the magnetic storm that hides chorda's cryo tanks?

>>530084472
>Just think about that for a second.
Wenduagfans don't do much of that when it comes to "i will betray you on sight"duag

>>530084472
Yes I'm choosing Wenduag the backstabby cunt, because no one will care when she's gone. I will still have the army she set up for me, whether she bends the knee or not.

So is a Heretic run worth it in RT?

>>530084472
Spider pussy

>>530082269
Why are you fuckin' here man, you're so old. Where's your wife? Go Home to Your Family.

>Chudful evil chad
"This woman has betrayed me and this will not stand, she has nothing she can offer me to repay for that insult."
>Chudtic evil chadtard
"This woman dared to strike against me, she will pay with her LIFE."
>Other alignments
"I'm not retarded, you tried to kill me!!!!"

Simple as.

>>530084660
Dude. Just kill Lann and take over later. Sell them out to the demons even since you're stupid enough to think that's a good idea. You can have your army of inbred demonic muties without having to deal with the lunatic.

>>530084816
Although maybe the "I'm retarded" or very reckless type of chaotic evil could justify it as a "I'll just kill her if she tried anything, it's fine." I'll admit. I'm not sure I could see someone lawful evil letting it slide unless they're comically stupid or assume she has something of worth to give, like assuming she really does have any of this "army" babble she's pullign out of her ass after you kill her source of demon-juice.

>>530084687
It's somehow a murder hobo run without the senseless fun that a murder hobo run would at least usually compensate for

>>530078642
based

>>530084687
>I SERVE THE RUINOUS POWERS!!!
>"...*coughs*... must've been the wind, let's go rogue trader!"

>>530084687
No, it's the worst evil route ever made in a CRPG.

>>530084961
You aren't paying attention. The mongrels LIKE Lann. The mongrels WANT Lann to lead. The mongrels will HEAL their corruption under Lann's influence, turning them into weaker fighters.
The mongrels DISLIKE Wenduag. The mongrels WANT Wenduag ousted. I can politically eliminate her and heavily strengthen my dominion over them with zero consequence compared to taking Lann.

>>530085141
That'd be the evil route in bg3 actuallybeit (you lose content in exchange for nothing)

>>530085270
Non Durge evil choice only run is the worst.

>>530085270
Evil durge is pretty fun though

>>530085250
You literally just kicked out the demon Wendy was using to empower her "army". You're in the middle of a demon infested city. You think it wouldn't be hard to cause an accident?

Enough of this shit. You're dumb as fuck and I'm just wasting my time at this point.

>>530085486
>You literally just kicked out the demon Wendy was using to empower her "army".
How does she even make more corrupted mongrels actually? It was the demon doing all the work
I get that her demon daddy is still alive and she's planning on killing you for him later but how do you never question this?

>>530085486
You've completely failed to address the point of WHO I want the accident to happen to and for what purpose, you pea-brained nignog.

To an anon who was trying to persuade me that "becoming the ship's blood" was necessary to complete the dlc - you're wrong. I never did it becasuse that quest is fucking retarded, and every other dlc event triggered no problem

>>530085690
You're a grown ass man, jump down the fucking ventilator

>>530085896
>You're a grown ass man, jump down the fucking ventilator

>>530085896
>>You're a grown ass man, cut your fuckin dick off
Same energy

>>530085690
>doesn't put his faith in the emperor

>>530085896
I'm not a man, I'm a delicate flower femcel that has Abelard do everything for her

>>530084687
Nah.
You can sprinkle some heresy into a dogmatic/icono run though, there are a lot of fitting options. It's just that if you take every heretical option your disbelief will lose suspension pretty quickly.

>>530086105
Why be so based I wonder

>>530085620
there were ritual circles all over the labyrinth, I'm sure even hosilla's lowest stooge could figure it out themselves

So does giving the weapons to the rabble in abelard's quest have any bad or good consequences?

>>530084687
playing it now and it honestly feels like a Dogmatic run, things like when meeting Yrliet
>kill Yrliet, Farseer and the brainwashed soldiers [Dogmatic]
>"Hey Yrliet, the Farseer is lying to you, let's kill him and the soldiers [Heretic]
or the Nobles in Dargonus did some bad stuff while you were away so here's the option to deal with them
>kill and purge whole noble families that rebelled against your dynasty [Dogmatic]
>rip out their throats and install vox casters singing your name 24/7 [Heretic]

>>530086528
I literally don't remember
I think I recall it turning out good, but I can't fact check this with my brain, follow you're heart!

>>530086528
You lose profit factor.

fuck that gayass rogue trader time to replay a real crpg Underrail

>>530086310
Heretic options are retarded in this game even beyond no one reacting to them though, you're either MUAHAHAHAHAH I AM EVIL or a bootlicker to the Edge, and you do this instantly with no buildup, so both are extra shit. Where's the slow temptation and fall into Chaos that a decent writing team could've put together? Not in RT, that's for sure.

>>530086796
Owlcrap can't help but write "I don't like you, die!" for "bad" paths

They nerfed the game for sure. None of my guys even got knocked down by the genestealer ambush. Playing on Hard

>>530086595
Yeah, it's almost like the Heretic path is slapped together duct taped shit they just copy pasted onto the existing branching paths to save time and effort. But surely Owlcat would never put such unfinished garbage into their games. Surely.

>>530086723
There's nothing gay about living that santic biomancer life in the service to the God-Emperor

>>530084687
BRO YOU SUMMON A GIANT BLUE DAEMON CHICKEN WITH A CHAOSMARINE AN NO ONE SAYS ONE COMMENT

>find cool equipment in the goybox that could make a build really interesting
>drukhari-only
Why is owlcrap mentally ill?

>>530086796
The most fitting one is probably the footfall >I don't care if it's xenotech I just want to make money.
I'm trying to play my RT as the warp affected noble who can resist the overt temptations as long as his life isn't in immediate danger but can't see the smaller temptations.

>>530086916
I don't like you die is a staple at this point and literally every conversastion should have that option just for lulz, but they should also write a good evil arc

>>530087272
>a good evil arc
I'm still waiting for one in wotr

>>530087272
I'm more of saying that they wrote "heretic" as they'd write "evil" in their other games

>>530087165
I'm sorry monkeigh, should have brought marzipan along

>>530087334
I think demon is really good IMO, I even dropped my demon playthrough in act 4 when I realized how fucked things were from my decisions
Proper evil

hehehe......

>>530085250
>I'm going to elevate the treasonous spidercat to lead the mongrels BECAUSE they hate her! I am very intelligent.

>>530087165
Anyone can take Drukhari Equipment, you just need to level Lore: Xenos first.

>>530088195
That's drukhari weapon proficiency silly

>>530087334
>>530087539
Lich is a good storyline
You people are too egodriven to accept the existence of Zacharius but it's a very kino story

>>530088195
Weapons only

>>530088391
I played lich and it was fun but the story is
>nothing
>nothing
>drama with the crusader feller
>nothing
>some lore in the abyss
>zacharius wants you to do a ritual to become a lich
>that's it
It has flavor, and 2 of the undead companions are cool, and the vibe is cool as hell with the diplomatic visits and such, but story is a stretch IMO

>>530088019
My aim isn't to keep her alive, as I've repeatedly made clear. My aim is to provide a stage where I revoke her from her oppressive position over the mongrels and replace it with my own.

I think starscream I mean wenduag is a fun companion

>>530088752
he's megatrons BPD boyfriend

>>530088391
Nah it's trash. The only decent Evil path in WotR is Demon.

>>530072578
The problem is that GW basically ignores that Slaanesh is *also* about sex, to sanitize the setting and keep things marketable. You just aren't going to get detailed descriptions of noise marine dicks from modern 40k.

Time to go to Commoragh on Unfair with my officer GS with my trusty companions Kibs, Idira, Cassia, Heinrix and Jae.
I am sure that will work out early on

>>530044157
The first time I played the game was with the DLC and I had absolutely no idea. I was only dimly aware of which parts were DLC and which weren't (aside from kibbi herself)

>this will never be you
why even trade rogues?

Speaking of Commoragh holy SHIT Solomorne cements himself as an absolute and utter faggot there, his "trauma" is a fucking joke. Who the fuck wrote that trash?

>>530090496
longass neck nigga

>>530090496
Slaanesh really should be deleted from the setting, everything about it always looks unbelievably retarded and lame.

>>530045176
For planets I usually go
>Foulstone
>Janus
>Kiava Gamma
>Dargonus
but I take my time over it, just meandering from to system to system scanning planets and doing side quests. That's the meat of chapter 2. When you do your big ascension ceremony on Dargonus the chapter is over (that's different from visiting Dargonus the first time). It's a similar setup to chapter 1 where the parade marked the end.

>>530090529
What even happens to him. Do they torture his dog?

>>530055186
All except the final one must die, but he can live and will come back with you to Janus. If the Janus elves are alive he stays with them and is actually really polite to you

>>530090714
This
Give malal his day

>>530049321
>>530048745
So the way I read that, the ship with the grey goo was just minding its own business until the eldar blew it up because of the prophecy, and a fragment hit Crudarach causing it to disintegrate

>>530091146
>what if chaos... but good, actually!

>>530056461
It's just poor project management. Things got out of hand and their spaghetti code makes it difficult to add even lines of dialogue. The farther you get from chapter 1 the more of a mess the game gets

>>530049321
>>530049630
>>530048745
They have to work backwards
They see a future, then they have to do things to either avoid it or to drive things towards it, those are the skeins of fate
They saw "that ship is going to be a big big problem" so they took the action of "blow that shit up" in response to avoid said future, what were they supposed to do? Just leave it alone so it could somehow cause a disaster for them later?

>i have more than two times as many forceswords than powerswords
The fuck is this shit

>>530090965
He basically cements his entire character and persona as being "my dog is my life", it's fucking lame as hell. I cannot stand Solomorne as a character after that event, it was already bad leading up to it, but what kind of human being bases his personality on, and centers his universe around his god damned pet? He doesn't even care about it in a manly way, either, it reads like some middle aged female crying about her beolved poodle or some shit, absolutely GARBAGE writing and characterization. Worst character in this game outside of Yrliet, hands down.

>>530085690
>anon doesn't want ability to get extra MP and AP
uh oh

>officer is the most powerful, and also the same boring
How does owlcrap manage to make commanding your troops so lame?

what is the point of removing all the MP points after you attack?
why i cant convert AP to MP?

>>530092415
You can in several different ways

>>530065947
It's more gratifying to make her apologise. She absolutely seethes

>>530092415
So you can't hit and run

>>530092501
why isn't that available at all times to all characters?

>>530092554
but hit and run is fun and a lot more interesting than just ayylmao you attack and cant move

I think it would be neat if Owlcat adapted Only War, since they're doing Dark Heresy now.
You could have your character be an NCO officer like a Sergeant or Corporal from a regiment of your choice, and you are deployed to a warzone against Tau. First act of the game is mostly fighting Tau, meeting characters, and basically being introduced to the Imperial war machine, and your part in it. Then Chaos attacks, forcing you and survivors from other regiments banding together into a rag tag company of heroes that fight to survive and hopefully find some way to call for help or get the hell off world.
Third act you would have teamed up with Tau(or exterminated them) to face down the heretics before they can summon a daemon prince.
Movies like Where Eagles Dare, Dirty Dozen, Saving Private Ryan, Kelly's Heroes, and Guns of Navarro would be a big inspiration for tone and set pieces.

>>530092091
My heckin wholesome doggo. I guess Owlcat had no idea what to do with him.

>>530092819
You could even take the opportunity to introduce vehicular combat, with Chimera APCs, Leman Russ battle tanks, Sentinel Walkers, up against Tau Devilfish and Crisis Battlesuits, as well as Chaos aligned Imperial vehicles, even Chaos Marine vehicles like Rhinos, Predators, and Dreadnoughts.

>>530092974
Which is baffling because there over a dozen easy archetypes to use for a cop character that would've done a fine job as a base for his characterization.

>>530092974
I have no doubt he was kind of phoned in because everyone is busy with trayzn.

>>530092378
not as boring as operative. At least officer can move dollies all around

>>530093117
Owlcrap could never make vehicle combat interesting, but that would indeed by a cool thing to have in a 40K rpg

>>530092587
Why does having dual weapon combat now allow me to fire my pistol and then switch to my pocket shotgun for a second attack if I had a shield previously equipped on that character? I don't know brother, I'm not a gopnik and they haven't disclosed their ways to me.

YOU SHAMELESS HARLOT
I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING

The game is absolutly shitting itself during the genestealers attack. Having like 10 fps

>>530092819
>Against T'au
Unless there is an option to defect I am not interested in your proposed game.

>>530093176
Operative is cool as hell actually, it can go into assassin or bounty hunter and both are super fun to play because they have minigames on them, plus you can use any weapon since it's talents aren't weapon-specific, meanwhile even officer's second archetypes are boring "buffguy" stuff
Grand strategist and overseer yeah though
Officer should've had more "do things that aren't make number bigger" abilities

>>530093343
How does that work so I can replicate it
Do you mean pistol+ shield and then shotgun+ shield?

>>530093176
Yeah, well, officer ain't shit on its own. Cassia only works because of her navigator bullshit.

>>530093401
Jocasta is the only loyal Sauerback girl

>>530093117
Each character could be from a different regiment. Imagine how different and yet similar everyone would be to each other. Lots of fun and interesting potential character interactions.

>>530093205
Only War has rules for vehicular combat so they already have a springboard to jump from.

>>530093426
That would be cool. Could be a major character moment for all your companions.

>sourback
picture the scent

>>530092819
Yeah it would be neat, you should make a game like that.

>>530093619
No I mean every so often my abelard for example will fire his foehammer from set one that also has a shield and then be allowed to switch to set two and pump his shotgun. Noticed the same on argenta with two mini flamers in set one and a bolter in the second. Fry with one and rather then be allowed to fire the second I get to fire the bolter for +1 AP. That only started happening on her once I put a shield on her and then removed it.
Noticed this well before AM or such levels came into play. Morale is not involved etc.

>>530094252
Huh, cool

>scroll through the whole thread hoping to find anything interesting
>endless RT slop
jesus christ, when will it end

Lads I am not sure about this, I am ok with her wanting to wear frilly dresses etc, but this seems like I have broken her mentally rather than shown her a better life....

>>530094097
>Making fan content of GW franchises at all
Sounds like a death sentence
Quick, which regiment are you?

>>530095116
Ok this feels a bit more sincere

>>530095052
What if you were romancing Shadowheart and she asked if she could use a scroll of Reduce/Enlarge on you so she can shrink you down to an inch tall and put you in her pocket?
Would you go along with it? She really, really, really wants to hold you in her hands, so much so she's looking flush and is breathing heavy at just the idea of you being small.

>>530095350
You're right, she's putting on a facade, and you get a chance to address that

>>530095052
In a couple of weeks when people are done replaying the game

>>530095052
Maybe you should actually try posting something good yourself for once.

>>530094252
Got the -20 to hit from dual-weapon but couldn't replicate the extra attack, strange

>>530093432
What do you even want an officer to do?

Anyone else feel this might be *slightly* retarded?

>>530096183
Give cooler buffs that are aoe instead of "buff one quirkchungus", no the new shitclass doesn't count
Maybe have some stuff that "marks" enemies when you attack them so oyu can feel like you're doing something, like what commissar has, no the master tactician "mark" doesn't count

>>530096236
You have 150 willpower, it doesn't matter by that point

>>530095731
By "pocket" you mean vagina right?

how do people feel about Sniper BH vs Sniper Assa? I've been playing BH for a while now but Prey system is somewhat tedious but I also like how much armor penetration and reduced armor BH gives for the team. Everything currently on Unfair have like 90% armor and 90% dodge, is the grass greener or?

>>530096637
Pretty good.
Sniper crits and BH talents feed each other well and indirectly supports the party too

>>530096636
Maybe. You won't know until you let her shrink you.

>>530095116
She's trying to please you by acting like a noble lady
I wish they'd given her model a dress at least

>>530095785
I told her I wanted the real her, but just out of curiosity, that's the same as telling her she can choose right? It sounded very authoritative.

>>530096361
>game gives you exactly what you want
>NOOOOOOOOO IT DOESN’T COUNT NOOOOOOOO

>>530096637
Sniper and bounty hunter is really good at providing support, and can also do really good damage because claim the bounty scales with perception which you can buff in a lot of ways
Sniper assassin is "fine", but inferior to dual-pistol assassin in every way pretty much, you do one big shot instead of a ton of them with dual-pistols and direct damage stacking

>>530096525
135 and I'm still act 2. It's nothing to scoff at with 20% either. And that's base pre all the buffs and or kills.

>>530096827
I'm not sure, the other option might push her down a different path. She's pretty sensitive to your exact wording. I think what you told her is the best choice

>>530096863
>>game [delusion]
Cool, good talk. Point your hand at your allies like a good goy.

Officer is the designated cuck class

>>530097174
Cassia is a cuck?

>>530096981
Well fuck me now I feel bad for enabling multiple romances with toybox
I am not done for harem endings
I know the dollies don't realize what is going on thanks to deceitfuk heretek installed in the sacred game files, and yet.... poor cassia and kibbles.... (jae can go fuck herself)

>>530096637
Oh yeah, another nice thing for you, you can use wanderer's portent for essentially infinite attacks as long as you have AP, as it lets you attack again if you crit. This is a nice trick with snipers.
Also there is a helmet where your single shots stun enemies, and bounty hunter has a talent that lets you attack again once after shooting someone who is stunned, that's another cool combo too (alternatively have idira stun them or use flash grenades and such)
Bounty hunter is real cool, even if it's not the be all end all damage guy

Imagine being such a fragile pussy that ordering people around makes you feel emasculated

>>530097323
She will be soon.

>>530096869
>inferior to dual-pistol assassin in every way pretty much
That's nonsense. You can stand back and take potshots at much higher base damage that translates to more true damage that translates to even more damage. Now, Pasqal plasma assassin... That's next level bullshit.

>>530097174
>he fights heretics himself like a fucking paesant
I bet you cook your own lunch too, you fucking poorfag

>>530081467
Damn shame the anti romance niggers are too scared to reply to a based post

>>530097590
No. You use burst pistols for multiple attacks all doing massive amounts of direct damage per shot with your busted assassin items.
A single 200 damage shot is not superior to 8 shots all doing 10 base damage and 50 direct damage each.

>>530097430
Every time the dollies suspect you're seeing other dollies, they feel dizzy and faint and forget all about it

>>530097771
Its a copypasta. He didn't even write it.

>>530097771
Don’t reply to yourself

>>530098059
and yet its 100% trvke

>>530097323
All romantic partners are potential cucks if you're a whore

>>530098153
The conductor, not the soloist

>>530097913
It's not but a 5k+ one with 500+ direct damage is. You're saying like each of those pistol rounds hits an opening, it doesn't, and you're talking like the riflemen is at level 16 and the pistolfag is 35. That's not fair.