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>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-63
Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-62
Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA
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>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdg
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>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.com
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam
>Previous thread>>530207468
>>530294785 (OP)They removed features like scene thumbnails from Godot 4.5 beta2.....
I will make progress today.
another summer without an /agdg/ collab.........
we have some of the best idea guys and game designers in the biz..............
>>530295567Collabing here is basically impossible because no one has social skills.
Balatro Simulator. Various card and gambling mechanic toys that you can put together to design gambling games. Publish them to a simulated Steam and make in-game money.
>>530295712hasnt gotten meta enough yet, but this'd go hard in a year
>>530295712Gambling you say? Someone gave me the idea of a pit boss Sim in another thread.
First progress screenshot. I'm about to create the most unique game with a gameplay idea the likes you never seen! And I'm not kidding!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5Ay_aOUcFw
its over....
>>530295870>>530295958i dont get it? are you happy making gambleslop, when you open your IDE do you feel JOY working on glorified random number generator? serious question
>>530296101Oh, I haven't made any, and a pit boss sim would be more about crowd management and stealing people's money since the house always wins. I made the slot machine render because an anon here was crying about finding one and we kept telling them it's easy af to make a box.
honest thoughts on our ancestor's 3d modeling skills?
>>530295968I was already watching that
>>530296261Pretty accurate fat woman desu senpai
>>530295968The biggest thing killing games is players so it doesn't fucking matter anyway. I'm sure you all have friends(jk I know you don't) that play slop of the week and then move on to something else. It's impossible to consistently play something with my friends in 2025 and the older it is the harder to convince them.
I feel like Godot is bringing me down, I'm not even close to my actual vision.
>>530296502not an argument tranny
>>530296678Fuck off zoomie
i cant work on my game because im in a slump
>>530296101Not that anon, but yes.
>>530296728Have you tried just not being a bitch and sitting down and working on it?
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Kludge is finally out if you guys wanna try it.
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-63/rate/3085094
>>530296654Is that a godot problem or you problem?
>>530296808I just ate pizza that was left on my stove for 13 hours or so and I'm fine.
>>530296881I don't know if my vision is doable in Godot, graphics are pretty important for mech games. I regret not learning UE because it's too heavy and bloated for my taste. I do like the compositor but I understand why so many people go for the psx style.
>>530297138I mean yeah if you're worried about graphics it's both a you problem and your choice problem. UE is obviously going to have the most capable graphics of all the engines.
>>530296815yeah, it doesn't work
>>530297381That's extremely embarrassing
>>530297557dude, tell me about it... shameful even...
>>530296836nah, looks shit
>>530297381Get some sun, some exercise, take some creatine, get sleep. I was in a major slump and that's what I did. And smoked some weed and that helped get sleep like crazy. I finished work one day and slept for 4 hours. Also did a 1 and a half day pure fast. Water only. Forcing your way through a slump is tough, but there are a few things you can do.
>>530297890Also wipe your ass
Hello! I'm back probably for a little bit I don't know but I've been making mad progress. I can't even remember most of it but here is some fishing progress.
I made the minigame quicker, easier and also added a load more fish so regardless of when or where you fish there is a large variety now.
I don't think I'll ever finish this cursed game, in 2 months my lawsuit should be over and I'll be too rich to care about finishing it.
>>530297890I should say I haven't smoked weed in years. But I have to admit, it fixed something. It allowed me to relax and sleep like fucking crazy. Multiple 4 hour+ naps AND full nights sleep on top of that. But the fasting, exercise (judo), and creatine had a part as well.
>>530297943Ya a lot of Americans don't know that they need to clean their ass in the shower. You should be doing that.
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Any good game to try this DD?
>>530297381>>530297890It's staggering how much getting sleep will just put you on track.
So trying unity first time in years with the new Input System.
How do I get the X and Y values from "Move" in the very standard Unity scene from the Project Settings?
Women love my game
Aggydaggers hate it.
what does any of this mean?
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>>530298290I'd rather someone posting something like that image stays far away from my game.
>>530279042It's called cassette futurism and you don't need to justify anything if you don't want to. As long as your universe is internally consistent it's fine.
>>530297318I got baited by the 4.x promises and not wanting to go back to poonity and deal with the urp ever again, then I recently learned that the rendering team is only..................one guy.
>>530298290incomprehensible text, use fonts instead of writing in cursive you dense mf
the top left pic is nice tough
>>530298749>the most basic prototype hackey wayInputSystem.actions.FindAction("Move").ReadValue<Vector2>()
>still polling, but without creating garbage by finding the action by caching the actionvar moveAction = InputSystem.actions.FindAction("Move)
moveAction.ReadValue<Vector2>()
>event based, call a function only when the action did something, useful for button type actionsInputSystem.actions.FindAction("Fire").performerd += FireGun
my bus
my beautiful bus
this idea is good, it just needs some time
but its a small game, nothing too crazy
my next big creation will be a multiplayer game.
and then after that...
cosmic call 2
or maybe not.
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>>530298932Not for long probably! I'm off back to Japan and never coming back!
But here is another progress, I added fish to the skill screen so it's more integrated into the game.
seriously tough i need to look at the wishlists, its unacceptable for a billions dollar company to do this
especially since they can fuck over devs as much as they want as long as the consumers dont feel the consequences theyre fine
>>530300271>i need to look at the wishlistsyou don't
>>530300248worst game ever made? it's called "inspirational" for us godot xisters!!!
>>530300270what? I've lost everything. Agdg is destroyed. Fuck this gay earth. Goodbye, you were my last connection to a bygone era.
imagine calling a newfag whodev like bundev the last connection to a bygone era
>>530300505It's ogre! I don't even recognize these threads anymore.
Have this picture I took when I was in Japan.
>>530300629I've been here since before you were born actually.
https://youtu.be/nnr7Yq5oBuo
>>5303006292021 was the last time /agdg/ felt like a game developer forum. Osur arrived around that time and turned it into an eceleb grift
and now that dd is over
did you rike it?
it was a fun experiment, but I would not recommend building a 3D game in BabylonJS framework, just grab Unity and you're done
Going to line up a goon sesh for the ages on the 10th when my wishies cum in finally.
>>530301169It was ok. I still have lots of games to play, but I'm procrastinating and being lazy as fuck
>>530299356I mean, you shouldn't be changing versions anyway.
>>530300887'monvo was posted first in 2019 silly
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>>530300725Here is another small progress. I am remaking some graphics and expanding function of them. It's the big thing on the left and the 4 on the right I updated.
i don't have any good gameplay ideas
i think im just gonna make my game a narrative based game, but... im not good at writing either
>>530300725woah is that the country where my cartoons are made(before AI)???? INCREDIBLE, i just MUST visit
>>530301324it started development in 2020 faggot
>>530301521Yeah man, it's crazy there! Look at how cool this dude is.
imagine when the wishlists come back you see: 0 wishlists added, your reaction?
>>530301739id know something is up because ive gotten wishlists through UTM
>>530301739my game has a pretty good wishlist income so I'm guaranteed to have received at least 100
>>530301589no it didnt
march 2019, first posts sept '19
>>530301962kek that's even worse given its performance
i am so sick of randomly hearing about trips to japan against my will when i just want to discuss video game development
>>530301185>just grab Unity and you're donefamous last words
I AM DOING ANOTHER ROUND OF DD GAMES TELL ME WHICH ONES TO PLAY
>>530302369Marnix and his consequences...
>>530301367Idk what your game is and if I believe in it, but I will say this is one of the more interesting games visually that I've seen. This world looks enjoyable to be in.
>>530302046cope + sneed + no game
>>530302431any of the non-discord ones
>>530302530funny, you're the one coping right now
>>530302431Open any game that looks good. If it has over 7 comments skip it and pick a new one
>>530300174>my next big creation will be a multiplayer game.Wasteland Bus but you can crash into other playerโs busesโฆ
>>530303105This. Very honorable approach.
>>530302431any of the discord ones.
>>530303105>>530303176If no games apply raise the criteria to 8 and repeat
>>530303293This, but only if it's brutally honest reality check feedback. They are getting hugraped to death out there.
>>530303037Sakurai and his team solodevved that game, and indie devs can't even solodev their way outta of a paper bag.
>>530302369Against your will? You sound like a fag. btw I went to japan
Japan is not that great and also you would never be fully accepted there. Your life would be just as or more lonely and empty than it is now.
>>530304685Maybe you wont be accepted there. But not me, I had a great time and talked to loads of cute girls. One maid even tried to force me to go to her expensive maid cafe.
>>530304685Nah, they'd worship me like a God
>>530304829>Nah, they'd worship me like a God
>>530304685theres no brown ppl there though
This place used to be much better. It's hell now. I hate the inner circle. I hate every single newdev niggerdev gaydev hugboxdev in this entire feminized AIDS-infested cesspit. You all deserve death, not because you deserve mercy but because it's better to spare the rest of the world from your existence than to let you continue living.
>>530305532Maybe we should have an agdg that is just progress, or comments on progress.
>>530305625That doctrine should have been enacted three years ago. Good luck passing anything now. All the white developers are gone (except me)
mind boggling how fast my development is going after I broke through a hard problem.
>>530305146more brown people in japan than my country
I just imagined a tall red haired woman with nice overbite eating a frozen treat with her teeth near my inground pool..... this is who I want to work on my game with me....
>>530304685>Japan is not that greatAbsolutely insanely false, and I don't even hate where I live now and consider it great. I've also stayed in a small village in Spain that was beautiful and amazing and traveled to other countries as well. Japan was just so damn nice for me and my lifestyle that it would absolutely be perfect to live in. Great food, travel is easy, bars open til 5am, amazing stores everywhere, convenience around every corner, etc. etc. The only issue is my remote job I do not think would allow me to stay there and I also don't really want to sell my house.
>you would never be fully accepted therethis is true but I don't give a shit, I'll kick the ass of any Japanese person that wants to step up on me and take their girl
>Your life would be just as or more lonely and empty than it is nowNah I found meeting interesting people in places like Tokyo quite easy
https://strawpoll.com/jVyG29b21Z7
crashed for no reason again
dogshit engine
>>530307124works on my machine
>>530306846The hardest part is actually starting.
>>530306846You were on vacation, and you were a novelty.
You would never be fully accepted.
Nothing you could do would make you be more than an outsider.
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I need to overcome my fear
>>530307652cut your dick off and drown in a sewer osur
>>530307109the hardest part is idea guying
i can program or draw as many things as i want but it wont make my dogshit game fun
>>530307451Honestly if I bothered to learn Japanese I could pretty easily blend as one of them. Despite their racism, they can't actually tell non-Japanese apart easily. Funny story, during the Korean annexation period they actually halted the assimilation efforts partway through because they discovered that they couldn't tell assimilated Koreans apart enough to discriminate against them.
>>530307810That's called game design
>>530307109None of those, it's the game design. Tuning and polishing everything in your game takes the most amount of brain power and time, everything else is pretty straightforward with little variables to mess things up.
Marketing is easy if you have money to spend.
>>530307879>I could develop close sincere bonds with this insanely xenophobic and racist people, I just don't want toYeah, just enjoy vacationing. You would never be fully accepted.
>>530307109You missed out the actual hardest part, level design. Not even joking, filling up your project with a whole game's worth of level design is where most people fail.
Alright aggydaggy, time for you to name my game.
It's going to be a roguelite dungeon crawler that's never been done before.
>>530308175Big Smelly Butts That Smell Like Farts
>>530307879learn a programming language or a useful skill instead retard
>>530308175Game 1 seems good, we had Schedule 1 recently which was a huge hit.
>>530308175Transcoded Dungeon: Sisters of the Abyss
new workflow: we steal backgrounds from google earth
who spams this?
>>>/v/714778296
>>530307904can i buy one of those off of fiver
>>530308175Absolutely โ here are 10 names for a game
FartQuest: The Brap Awakens
Legend of Farty: Ocarina of Wind
Brap Souls: Prepare to Fart
Return of the Fart King
Farty McDungeon: Brapocalypse Now
The Binding of Fart
Slay the Brap
Enter the Fartyverse
Dark Farts: Gasborne
Brap Escape: Fartborne Chronicles
>>530309332damn, I need to start doing this for my own game too
>>530307109Animation, but as the practice of both producing the animatable parts and doing the animation. If you're just taking a 3D model someone else made and animating it then it's pretty tame.
If you're trying to make a unique 2D artstyle then animation is the final boss that people here refuse to face.
so can anyone explain why autobattler died so quickly? they was supposed to be the next big thing but got sharted on by older new genres like troonlike shartbuilders
this is genuinely a baffling collapse
>>530309432>GasborneWinrar
Where would I go to find 3d artists who are looking for work?
I tried artstation but there is just no love there, no soul, just slop, I'm looking for obsession.
Twitter usually works but it's hard to search things after the api and rate limit changes.
What am I missing?
>>530308175>I'm trans btw forgot to mention
>>530296836shit title, i warned you in the previous thread. RIP in peace.
>>530309565TFT showed people they were shite
>>530309565valve, riot and blizzard dragged them into the dirt by associating them with pay to win slop
https://www.reddit.com/r/godot/comments/1low9im/object_pooling_doesnt_seem_to_improve_performance/
'dot moment
>>530309690more like Krindge
>>530308105>>530308296I'm not the anon trying to move to Japan, I'm just pointing out it's piss easy to pass as Japanese. When I visited, I kept on having people speak to me in Japanese assuming I was one of them. They can't tell you apart.
>>530308175Dice Card Indie Roguelite (now with extra shops!)
the most original dungeon crawler to ever be made
>>530309805If you look in his update, he says he started pre-instantiating. Then he noticed the performance increase.
Basically, he wasn't really object pooling at first.
>>530310342I get that after uploading any new build, really. Just takes a day or two to envision where to go next.
>>530309565Garbage genres have no legs.
how exactly does the popularity sorting work in the submissions on DD?
>>530309590become the troontist yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri2KStY-mfE&list=PLseKVnAXs_iVaksj-sjkz6R1D9Fpv1EaT
ITS HERE
>>530310679itch.io calculates a "popularity ranking" based on a game's statistics. itch.io doesn't calculate "game jam only" stats meaning the popularity sort is the game's global popularity, not the game jam's popularity. This is why porn games always dominate rankings.
>>530302431rolling ball game
>>530310679Discord games at the top because they get the overwhelming volume of traffic. Itch prioritizes games which have the highest recent density of traffic
yes my shop management game is coming along nicely...
i vill make millions...
>>530309590r/INAT and r/gamedevclassifieds can yield some results, itโs a very mixed audience but Iโve found good people here and there
also you can just go on fiverr and dm relevant people with specific proposals like "can we set up a deal where you make 10 3d models for my game <demo is here>" - good thing with this method is you can already filter Indians and AI retards and everybody, just go straight for profiles that you can tell are legit and capable. Bad thing is it WILL probably cost you a lot of money.
I went with Gasborne Chronicles.
As an enginedev, I feel that I should make a small Godot side project on the side just to not be completely oblivious to how the 'using an off the shelf' engine side of things is like.
and you know what? I may as well get a small quirky game out of it. Maybe a nintendogs-like.
>>530310985Which games are discord?
>building toys for childer and manchildren
How about you build an app that saves lives? Some emergency app.
Or build something so you can get defence budget contract
that's the real man's job. Not some video games that were hot thing 20 years ago
>>530311452>WAR AND DEATHGames and Game Dev are the activities of Gods.
>>530311452>How about you build an app that saves lives? Some emergency app.SAAR
>>530311452>Or build something so you can get defence budget contractId rather not go to hell making anything that is used by our satanic jewish elites to kill people around the world.
>>530311452>How about you build an app that saves lives? Some emergency app.Lives aren't worth saving
>Or build something so you can get defence budget contractYou need MIC connections for them to even look at you
>>530311538you're just training terrorists by creating violent video games
>>530311752my games have a purpose. They aren't GTA-likes.
>>530310849>>530310985my game page is brand new for DD and im not in the discord, yet it climbed up very high in the list despite very low analytics
>>530311868New releases get a popularity rank boost that decays very quickly over time.
>>530311237I don't know any competent people who still use reddit in current year. But I will take a look, thanks anon.
Fiver Is a no-go I'm afraid.
>>530296836>wanted to point out how similar is gameplay is to mordhau>check descriptionYou need to make it multiplayer and replace those useless retards at Triternion
>>530311868New pages get a boost Alchimeradev/Paloodev. You will be ranked higher and shown to more people even if you get lower engagement
Question: For a total noob, how hard would it be to make a visual novel
Nothing extravagant
Dialogue, sprites, full artwork scenes, backgrounds, flags, save function, background music and sound effects and I think thatโs it
Are there any pieces of software that aid with this similar to basic bitch stuff like RPG Maker but for VNs?
I don't know what I want to do with my life, work-wise. Games are a weak job. Fun. But ultimately useless as they are just the toys
>>530312339The answer is always "Harder than you think"
>>530307451Nah this is false. Show Japanese people a bit of decency and they'll treat you like one of their own.
I met a random guy in Japan and by the end of the day we were best mates. He was telling me about how he didn't get to learn English in uni because his professor was Indian and had a shit accent no one could understand, how he wanted to go to London and how he loved Harry Potter because Hermione was super cute.
As long as you don't act like a twat Japanese people will treat you just fine. You might not be accepted by every single person but when the fuck are you? In the UK I basically feel like a stranger and there are ethnic enclaves everywhere. I felt way more accepted in Japan.
Yeah I don't think I have what it takes.
>>530311752im training future engineers with my factorio+shenzhenI/O game
>>530311452Fuck off government
>>530312494now thats based
>>530312339yep ren'py got you covered
>>530312423>and how he loved Harry Potter because Hermione was super cute.one of us, one of usโฆ
Chat, is this bullish or bearish? US has the best price conversions from my understanding so I think it's best case scenario?
>>530312236>>530311938Wasn't Perish Parade and otaku zoo a new page and submission as well? Yet since DD63 I've seen the games at the bottom of the list
>>530312403Thatโs fine this is a longer term goal with a friend
>>530312410Thanks
>>530312991That's a discord game but the faggot got hit with the Itch.io shadowban so his page is stuck as unlisted until customer support gets to him
>>530313087How do you even identify discord game?
>>530311752Without violence in the world what's the point of defence and healthcare
>>530313621Click on the thumbnail. If you see 20 demo day comments then it came from the discord.
Or you can just visit the discord and see the developers jerking each other off in real time
>>530313621By reading the posts on discord, duh.
damn it wireworks dev I was going to write up a comment and feedback
well great game anyway, probably my #1 pick this DD
>>530313679you should leave the world a better place not worse
>>530313975>trusting whodevs>everhello r(e)ddit newfaggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-OhpJp33Dc
why are all of his videos based on making your first game and being able to do it alone? reminds me of those drop shipping scam gurus selling a dream. he should make it less obvious if he wants to scam people.
>>530309565once AAA picks it up, it dies
if you see AAA pick it up, leave
>>530313892this image lowkey destroyed any credibility the transcord had left
>>530314184I don't know I've never watched any.
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Hey! id just like to let some feedback for you game dev course, i think that you could make some region-based price for it, for example, for me the course, even at this big sale, is like 2.400 brazilian Reais, that is the currency of brazil, same as 2x the minimun monthly income i think that this would be awesome if you could consider it, i really aprecciate your channel, been watching it the past 9 months at least
>>530314127don't care, it was a unique idea and i wish them the best
>>530314184Lures in starry eyed dreamers who don't know how tough and hardcore the solodev life is.
>>530313892>discord>trannyevery time
I love programming with AI, so I'm getting a job in tech
>>530314313it's like /agdg/'s own personal gamergate
I always saw the arrogant shits on the server a lot like journos or twitter activists
>>530313958https://discord.gg/7xKjyJx
>>530313892>If you see 20 demo day commentsNot really, the 20 comments games are usually just the high profile newcomers everyone wants to try, like AGDGPachi. Many of the (as far as Iโm aware) "discord" games donโt even get that many comments, as theyโve been on DD for so many times and whoeverโs a fan or friend of the dev can playtest and give feedback any time ig.
Is youtube channel a valid attempt at marketing baby lads?
>>530314602jewtube shorts
>>530314602Depends what you mean
>>530314704game related content with subtle shillin
>>530314602>>530314832If there is any kind of community waiting for youโre game, obviously a YT channel to fuel the hype is a great idea.
But since that is not the case, the venue would more be doing what Branno does, spout some gamedev-related wisdom, doesnโt even need to be well edited apparently, โslong as you got some personality and some games to show.
>>530315238Branno has an IQ over 130 which doesn't apply to most other people here
>>530313892is this from reddit or biteme?
>>530313892Did we really go all the way from loli rape sim to this sensitive soiboy cringe in less than a decade?
>'cord using lrs to gather sympathy
work on your false flags, trannoid corder
WHERE
IS MY
FUCKING
FANART
IT BELONGS TO ME
I DESERVE IT
I YEARN FOR IT
I"VE EARNED IT
Discord boys playtested my game and gave me few ideas about foolproofing it
We good
I can't join the discord... I'm too shy
>>530318179i thought this guy was cool but after watching the movie last month (my wife made me i didnt care about it) hes just a fucking demoralized cuck who dies at the end
i could tell a jew wrote it
https://youtu.be/plP0OFmP8kU?t=183&si=fLdVJQvwa4qUR7-Q
Reminder we're less than 2 months away from more Eric standup comedy
>>530318179stfu faggot. They play your game because you let them ram you in the ass in exchange for it, not because your game is worth a shit
>>530318456The only way to defeat fear is to face it, anon.
same energy when the 'cord talks about fygoon
>>530319584Stop wasting time on /tv/ and start working on your game cunt
>>530319629nah, complete embargo on progress posts until they start getting replies again
>>530319584/agdg/ is reddit now
I am putting Christian themes and Old Testament stories into my game.
still waiting on that fanart
>>530320350Neat.
BTW, one story I've always found fascinating is the idea that ALL world religions are wrong and there's something else entirely at play here
>>530320350>Christian>Old(Jew) TestamentDoes not compute
How do you deal with the feeling that the game you're making isn't something you'd ever really yourself play, and games you would play are way beyond your scope as a solodev.
>>530320684Never had them. Kill yourself.
>>530320648Same God at a different point of revelation to Man.
>>530320350please do judges. that would be badass
>>530320684Overscoping happens all the time but feeling like you don't wanna play your own game is weak willed faggotry for many reasons.
>>530319584Theatre kids trying to act tough will never not be funny
>>530320990the god of israel is not the god of abraham
>>530321368Israel is just the Church. I'm not a dispensationalist, but to ignore the OT as a Christian is to miss out. It's full of riches and color for any follower of Christ, to see what was revealed to Abraham and his children as they and creation awaited Christ resurrected.
>mfw spent the day watching surgery tutorials instead of devving
life sucks, but man, these are some funny times with the cool shit you can learn on the internetz
>>530318139GIVE ME
THE FANART
THAT I
DESERVE
MY GENIUS WAITS FOR ALL TO SEE
TRUTH THAT WILL EMERGE
NO MATTER WHAT THE CRITICS SAY
THEIR WORDS JUST TURN TO DUST
https://vocaroo.com/12KBXFtGxY0l
your game can be good and lack an audience
the people who would enjoy your game are busy doing something else
>>530322120All good games have an audience. Not all games with an audience are good.
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>>530320648Bro, the New Testament opens up with the genealogy of Christ. Matthew in particular focuses a lot on all the different prophecies contained within the Old Testament about the coming of Christ to prove that He is the Messiah and thus validate the Covenant of Christ.
Jesus himself argued by using the Old Testament. That's part of why the Pharisees hated him so much, because even though they were scripture autists they couldn't beat his arguments.
Reading the Old Testament doesn't mean you have to follow desert people Leviticus tier shit, that was the old covenant.
>there are unironic sky daddy retards ITT
amazing
>>530316348The discord would be more welcoming to lolirapesim than the thread.
>>530322594tips fedora
>>530320684Unless the cross takes up half of the wall I'm not interested
>>530322452off-topic but it was (and is) just a Jewish offshoot cult, they wanted a messiah and "miraculously" found one, it's just anti-Rome stuff.
>>530319584>imagine taking the inner circus so seriously>>530320450what if ALL of them are partially right and if combined you will be able to UNDERSTAND
>>530320350Now I like your game even more
>>530322412He's just like me fr fr
>>530322694>you don't believe that Yogi Bear is real?>wow don't cut yourself on that edge bro, heh gottem
>>530322983It's aggydaggy I'm not going to teach toddler about basic human concepts, post progress or get the fuck out fedora tipper
>>530322789No, jewish (rabbinic israelite) start around 3e century with the misnah and talmud. Ironically, the catholic once used the old known copy of the oldest testament (the Septuagint 2century BCE). Christians are a little early 2 century with the first compiled gospel. Both are offshoot of the second temple cult.
I have mastered vibe coding chuds.
Made this with pygame and vibe code with chat gpt.
>>530307451Nigga I don't want to be accepted, I accept that they don't like or want foreigners. It's not gonna stop my massive white cock from taking their women and land. Cope.
>>530322789If you actually read the Bible you would know that the Pharisees feared that Jesus could lead a rebellion against the Romans and the last time that happened they got their teeth kicked in.
Then they actually tried a few decades after Christ's ministry and Hadrian almost exterminated the Jews.
I'm going to stop replying now. I encourage you to read the source instead of just watching schizo video essays.
>read this old fairy tale, please, you have to
yeah pass
>>530324038It's okay to admit you're illiterate.
>>530322412>Reddit>I can see why>My belief is>Me me me >I I I>Literally no actual evidence presented at any point
>>530323386>making worse version of trading tools that existed for 20+ yearsCris you are mentally retarded and everyone is constantly laughing at you
I am starting to realize that working for very long periods of time without a substantial reward for your efforts, does terrible things to your brain long-term.
>>530318548Heartwarming video. He really is living the dream.
And though it's silly to believe you can mimic his success, it's hard not to feel inspired
>>530324786Explains why half the people here have horrifying and unfixable mental illness.
>>530324786I've been working so hard for so little reward...
Did you know in Japan they used to torture prisoners and break down their spirit by making them dig a hole all day and then force them to cover it back at night?
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I think we should put it in the OP:
"Gamedev is not for the weak"
>>530325270Clearly they hadn't read The Myth of Sisyphus then.
>>530324786I am 3 years into a reboot of my 11 year old game and I think I agree. It is excruciating. I hope people like it.
>>530323648Depends, a lot of big J ministry was against the corruption of the jewish elite: the priest (sacceduan) and the scribe (pharisee), also jesus may have been an essene or influenced by one (being a more lower class sect)
>>530326351Yep and the OT is about all of this.
>>530296881And what is wrong with the title specifically
>>530324969I mean it's silly to assume you'll sell 100's of millions, but if you can think of a genre that appeals to men, women, kids, adults, and one that you can realistically make, you should shoot for the stars. Just be realistic of what you can achieve in 5 years.
>>530321920>surgery tutorialsFor what
The inner circle has painted a target on my head.
>>530327113amateur surgery
I made this diagram to try to explain to NGMIs what their fundamental misunderstanding about meritocracy is, but looking at it, it's probably too complicated for them to understand. Here it is anyways.
Is B.C. Piezophile dev the only interesting dev with an online presence? He's a singular guy amidst a sea of milquetoast normiedevs.
slay the spire is one of the worst thing to happen to indie gamedev
completely destroyed indie TCGs
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>>530328051this is illuminating anon thank you
>>530328051You need to be the best game released on any single day on Steam. Not so bad.
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>11 reviews on launch day and still going up
>100% positive
he gmi
>>530328051I dunno if I believe in meritocracy in game development when I see a lot of mediocre looking games succeed.
>>530304825>One maid even tried to force me to go to her expensive maid cafe.Oh no a maid tried to do her job and you though she approached you because it is you? lmao
>>530329091Fact Checkโข: True
>>530309565The popularized autochess format is dead. There's a lot of different places where you can apply autobattle.
>>530329197>mediocre looking>lookingLook harder. There are a few lucky FotM "bad" games that succeed beyond what they probably deserve, but often times, they did do something very right to warrant their success. These few "lottery winners" add so much noise to the equation that low-IQs like you have trouble filtering them out. Quality is complex and multivariate.
>>530329197They are usually playing a different game.
They are not competing to "make best game".
They are compete to be the most streamer-bait, be the most boner-inducing, the most nostalgia-bait, the most reddit-pog.
And if they are succeeding, they are probably very good at these things. They are different beasts, but I still have some respect for them.
Is Landsword dev here? How do I fix the error to go past level 1?
This game is fun, well the different guns and sounds are what makes it so fun. Great sound design desu.
>>530329431>over 20% review ratiofake reviews
ngmi
Can I finally be on the pasta? I've been keep tracking of most of you and the curator page is quite nice to look at it
https://store.steampowered.com/curator/39041835/
>>530330574Just like, make game
How do I tell if my game is too easy or if I just got good?
>>530329197Marketing can be used to sell even a shitty game as long as it meets some bare minimum required visuals to look like a real game with a decent production value. That's how most of AAA functions.
If it's specifically "looks" as in visuals you're talking about then you best remember that there's people who play roguelikes with ascii graphics.
>>530331329testers. put a clock on your demo and tell them to share their time
>>530330097>>530330189>>530331367I'm just saying I see shit like Core Keeper (random example) sell 80 quadrillion copies and I don't get it.
Ugh, this is taking too long
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>>530328051stfu nerd, I win
>>530332064Core Keeper sold on the idea of top-down Terraria. It's a disappointing game but I guess it did it decently enough that people didn't review nuke it.
>>530332064Core Keeper is better than your game.
KingsField/Lunacid for employed people.
>>530332064>shit like Core KeeperYeah, you clearly just have no vision. Core Keeper is amazing.
>>530332371Probably. But I'll be happy if I sell 1000 copies.
>>530332064>Core KeeperDid you ever play it? Ever watch a single minute of gameplay? That is a fantastic game (and has co-op servers so bf/gf can play together) it has bosses and combat for the male audience, and cozy farming and base building for the female audience.
Yes it's just a "random example" but there is literally no such thing as a game with massive success for no reason. You are just too retarded to understand what makes a game good and desirable
>>530332430Their next game will be amazing, if you think coreslop is good then you need to play more games. I bought it and never want to play it again.
>>530332551What makes it any more interesting than the 1000 other games that do that exact same shit?
Stardew, Terraria, The Forest, Minecraft, etc
Survivor crafting games are so ubiquitous yet every single one seems to sell like hotcakes.
>game sells 10 trillion copies
>4chan faggot incel who has never had a friend or anyone enjoy his company: "ummm this game is le BAD ACKKSHUALLYYY"
lmfao
>>530332771What makes Kebab better than Pizza?
>food analogy
>>530332839>sales are a measure of quality
>>530332947Nothing succeeds for no reason. You may not like a game but it obviously had something that people enjoyed.
>>530332771It doesn't have to be more interesting than any of those games for people to buy it and enjoy it. What is with this retarded idea that people only ever play a single game their entire lives? The people who liked minecraft, liked terraria, liked stardew, liked core keeper. They probably played each for a dozen or a couple dozen hours or so and had a great time with each one. That's what it means to like a genre of game
>>530332943I don't even think that's an apt comparison. They're all pizza. Maybe some of them are stuffed crust or have pineapple but if all you're eating is pizza then you're going to start throwing up.
>>530332947Sales are a measure of people liking something, you retarded faggot. You seem to be intentionally missing this point to avoid the cognitive dissonance associated with accepting the fact that one ever buying your game means no one ever liked your game.
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>>530332771Interesting?
It's not about being interesting, you just don't understand who you're selling the game to.
There's a reason Minecraft, Fartnite, Roblox are the most successful and played games in the world.
>>530332771>Survivor crafting games are so ubiquitous yet every single one seems to sell like hotcakes.There is infinite demand for open world craft survival games. It is the quintessential Steam+PC genre.
>>530332839This is the reason why a lot of /agdg/ games suck. Anons make zero attempt to try and understand anything outside of their comfort zone and if they don't like something it's just immediately bad to them.
>>530332193kek
>>530332839>he's projecting and coping>againand... is this "game" in the room with us now?
>>530333518Again
>selling well means it's goodBy your logic we should all be making Marvel movies
>>530333650If you had hundreds of millions of dollars to invest and need to make hundreds of millions of dollars back, yes, you should be making Marvel movies, or the equivalent of Marvel movies in video games, which is AAA movieslop. You're a broke ass zero-experience loser though.
>>530333650Nothing everything that's popular is comparable to Marvel movies, McDonalds, Justin Bieber, or whatever shit you guys say all the time.
>>530333650>ignores both posts ripping him completely apart thus confirming the previous psychoanalysis in >>530333286 as being correctkek, thats embarrassing anon
>>530333862Thanks for admitting it's all about money to you.
my lolislop wont make itself
>>530334067His post amounted to
>if people buy something it means they like itWhich is like
>yeah no shit That doesn't make it good which is the part you people seem to have an issue with.
>>530334072Money buys quality, loser.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJSRk_pwKXA
Kalemonvo keeps winning
>>530294785 (OP)I only play the game's submitted in the last 10 minutes of demo day. And provide 2 hours of commentary and feedback. Now let's see who qualifies.
>(a)wokenOnly 1 person wow!
>"J.R Tolkien is one of the most popular authors in the world"
>"So what McDonald's is one of most popular restaurants in the world so who cares"
Do you see how retarded you sound now
>>530297984>lawsuitIs it about the leg and penis thing? Realistically what happens to the game if you do end up rich?
>>530333151Italians get by just fine on only pasta (Netflix and chill) and pizza (survival crafting slop with friends).
Not everyoneโs so invested into vidya that they need a whole array of different genres and unique gameplay takes.
Anyways, back in the day us hardcore PC gamers would play nothing but shooters. Everything else was for kids.
>>530334665He's just deeply insecure about the fact no one likes his game and has to cope about it, let him be.
>>530334067>psychoanalysisOk Mr. Freud, explain me then how your game doesn't have 1000+ reviews on steam
assuming that you actually have a game lol
>>530334665>>530334815>Core Keeper is as good as Lord of the RingsDamn dude you got me
>>530334749I'll host a competition where people from agdg fight to the death and I will hire the winner to finish my game for me.
>>530334284Cool ragebait anon. Truly marvelous
>>530300270What's this game supposed to be about? I've seen combat too before.
>>530300431>that boomer/woman-esque selfieIck. Wonder what happens to Steam the moment they go public. Will it be a boon or an even worse fate for gamedevs?
>>530335007I'm sorry I took your argument to its logical conclusion and you didn't like the result. Apply yourself next time.
My secret to make a successful game?
Make /v/ bait (needs at least 1 cute girl).
my post mortem:
i should have made a good game
i hate having expectations on me now
i miss playing games
thanks for reading
>>530295870How many gambling activities does your game have?
>>530301739Unsurprised as my wishlist velocity is something like <2 per week
>>530304685But I wouldn't worry about break ins by dindus. My life would therefore improve.
>>530334578Does awoken have fun combat yet?
>>530335370Is it possible to make a cute girl in a PSX graphics style?
>>530334573Qualifications to enter /pgdg/? Surely we blneed something like a 4chan pass like /vip/ has except one that verifies a minimum net income from gamedev.
>>530335779Its invite only.
>>530335779Having a finished game (any finished game - even a gamejam game) would probably weed out 90% of the shitposting.
Am I the only one that reads agdg as awesome games done guickly in my head sometimes?
admit it, you don't even have an idea
>>530334284these faggots are NPC sheeps that make their assumptions with the social filter
>I see this everywhere>everyone is talking about this>what will others think of me if I don't consoom this?>holy shit I need to watch this too>yo you saw this? is fireyou vill buy le AAA games and you vill be happy
>>530333087>>530333286Sales are a measure of how well the marketing succeeded. Sales do not guarantee quality.
>>530336262Marketing is how well the game succeeded at being desirable (what most people mean by good). Try again
>>530336371>what most people mean by goodThat's wrong though.
>>530332064I find it funny how some of you don't get it. I will not explain it, can't risk helping the competition.
We typically use review count ~= revenue as a proxy for quality, but the most accurate number to use should be "expected value per impression" (henceforth EV/I). i.e. For every impression GabeN gives you, how much money does that make GabeN? That is the sole determining factor for how many impressions GabeN will give you, which directly translates to sales and reviews.
>>530336158everyone can defend themselves physically thanks to the 2nd amendment, the people who do that are those who can't defend themselves mentally
>>530336580There is no objective definition. Swim upstream if you want, just don't expect anybody to care when you die exhausted, hungry, and without offspring
>>530335491Of course, but you need to make her have some kind of shtick. Either make her really sexy and confident, or a bratty tomboy, or damaged and vulnerable. You need to reel the /v/ Anon in with an approachable and lovable fem character, something they can get attached to.
The smelly, damaged, broken type seems to be the one that works the best of all the others imo.
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gmi physiog vs ngmi physiog. pretty boys can't compete with dead eyed autists
>>530337080anon people just got off on the rape fantasy you're basically erping with some of the most degenerate people on the planet
>>530332771As far as top-down goes there's not that many Terraria-likes. Tinkerlands came out recently with decent sales and it's the same shit. Both of them were successful in selling a game to a specific niche. That's ultimately what indie dev is about. You need to find a niche where there's enough room for a new game that you can make in a reasonable amount of time. Survival crafting genre is one of the most popular in Steam which means it's relatively easy to find players compared to space sim for example. It's no surprise that there's multiple 1000+ review games per year in the genre.
>nooooo they can't be low poly AND hot!
JUSHA and Project Landsword are great examples on how visuals can carry an otherwise mediocre at best game
>>530336371Marketing can falsely present desirability that doesn't actually exist or doesn't exist to the extent that marketing implies it does. We see at least a couple games per year that get huge pre-launch hype and big sales on release only to get review bombed because they suck. Now that's only the games that are so outrageously bad that even normies get offended. But normies are used to eating shit. They eat up most of the shit they're sold. That doesn't mean those were good games.
Why does oshdev want to kill kannadev?
>>530336158>that picmodern /agdg/ summarized perfectly.
>>530337496I wish I could make these textures I'd be making EQ style models all day with a slight bump in polycount for animatability
did any games do the "farty man" thing?
>>530334496game is still shit tho
>>530336158both post and pic are 100% true
anyone who isn't free to think is ngmi
>>530337642Video games are an audio-visual medium.
>>530337496>unrealistic body type>blond hair>blue eyes>white skinI thought we moved pass this as a society.
Has anyone noticed if developing a nicotine addiction helped them to dev? Like pouches or vapes
>>530338314True yesdevs chainsmoke while deving
In reality smoking isn't good for you. Find better habits.
>>530336158This is why I'm against the inner circle
you finally understand
>stole this from nightreign, gonna study thoroughly
>>530338465the japanese don't smoke and they make the best games of all time
>>530295958bro this gonna be so good you have no idea of the fun bro
>>530338814I know for a fact that Shinji Mikami smokes. Because I smoked with him at GDC 2015
do not watch tutorials they are a trap
>>530339015shinji is a cartoon character retard, you were smoking with some cosplaying femboy
>>530339167Damn I wish I fucked him then.
Why is this the case when making video games is on the other size of the spectrum of attractiveness?
>>530339548consuming vs creating
>>530339548>hits 40>the men she wants to have sex with no longer want to have sex with her even as a last resort
>>530338816actual million dollar friend slop idea, 3 people stuck in a pinball machine, 1 person controlling the machine trying to take out the other 3
>>530338814Japanese people notoriously are heavy smokers. Something like double the rate of the US.
>>530339625Fygoon, while you're here I should probably let you know that I discovered a nuclear option that's capable of completely annihilating the inner circle. I'm gonna hold off from revealing it yet though, because once I release it there's no going back.
>>530338816>ue5nice screen tearing and stutters and random fps drops from a few balls falling on the ground lmao
people will love waiting for a 50GB download for a game with 6 assets in it
>>530339548Your first mistake was thinking those kinds of women were made for you.
They are just looking to be trophy wives for men in the public eye.
I have just received information that Anon is only two weeks away from getting a nuclear weapon.
>>530339984bro it's just a prototype why are you like that
>>530336158>>530337906>>530338243>>530338715You're confusing being a free thinking with being a delusional loser. You know how you see those ragebait threadcaps from some jewish community where they cope about how they're so hated or some femcel community where they cope about how men need to step it up? That's you in your autistic NGMI /v/tard amateur hobbycope circlejerk.
A free thinker is someone who seeks the truth of reality. A free thinker aims to create the most accurate model of the world that they can attain, even if that model of the world is not something that benefits them or makes them feel good.
A free thinker does not cope and seek to rationalize their own shortcomings and failures.
>>530339649Yep. Men are meant to shape the world and cultivate things. Imagine being a woman (easy for people here I know) and looking at your husband staring into a screen, moving his thumbs around for multiple hours per day. It's humiliating. You need to keep it limited and ideally to games that demonstrate intelligence. Anything beyond maybe 1 hour should be on building things.
>>530340319 the most accurate model of the world is the one that says that the inner circle is artificial and evil and detrimental to improving this place or anyone's game for that matter
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This isn't a bad thing. Greens assuming everyone is capable of learning is such a horrible hole to fall into. No, you cannot win everyone. You should instantly assume all your players are retarded and refuse to learn.
>>530340635I don't care about browns and them getting filtered by my game
Caught up on my mapping work last week.
But for this week back to SKA dev.
>>530340546You're like the femcel loser crying about the opposing incel circle. You're all a bunch of looksmatched 2/10 losers. Meanwhile, normies are out there having sex just fine.
>Your IQ: 4
>Profound Mental Retardation
>>530340193>wahhh stop making valid criticisms about my sloppa engine that can't even run normally with a 4080ti wahhhhconstructive criticism, use a better engine like godot which doesnt have any performance issues
>>530339548women are angry when men give more attention to something that isn't them
in other words they were such shitty girlfriends that their boyfriends would rather game even when she's home which led to them hating video games and the men who play them
women never own up their own faults
>>530340193it's a prototype scene with almost nothing in it and it runs like ass
>>530340635That's how you end up with yellow paint and constant hand-holding and press X to win.
>>530340904I'm still right tho, and that guy is right too. And you're still supporting the inner circle and refusing to admit they are evil, which means you're not on the side of truth. That tells me what your real agenda is.
>>530341292>having morals in the first placengmi
>>530341292I'm not demoralized but I don't really feel like working on my game right now.
>>530340635Green does not assume everyone is capable of learning. Green assumes that no one thinks of themselves as the villain in their own life story. Hanlon's razor states: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
Yes, people are stupid, but stupidity isn't inherently evil from an individual's moral viewpoint. Incompetence is only evil when viewed from a societal standpoint, as the effects of individual incompetence do indeed affect others.
>>530340319>>530340904> a broken clock is right twice a day but I still think time doesn't exist actuallythat's what you sound like
>>530340319spoken like an individual that is not free to think
>>530341292ngmi energy
>>530341264Not everyone against you is on the side of your opponents. My only agenda is for everyone here to work smarter, work harder, and make better games.
>>530341292not really, I got 3k wishlists and I think enough people interested that if my game is any good it has the potential to take off. Of course I still have to actually deliver a good game but, I digress
>>530341292Not really, but I'm worried about my libido being so low lately.
cock fighting simulator but the cocks are anime lolis
Is it okay if I'm making slow but steady progress?
>>530341264i'm on the side of yesdevs and i support their agenda
>>530339548>bringing twitter ragebait to aggydon't do that
>>530341597then just say the words. Say that the inner circle is detrimental to having a good gamedev community. Just say that they are a net negative and that this place would be better without them as a standalone fact
do it without muddying it with moralizations about personal responsibility. We're talking about a barebones fact in a vacuum here. Just say it
>>530341932Now add gambling and a currency that allows you to buy upgrades for your loli to get even higher numbers.
>>530338314yeah i became addicted to vaping, gonna quit cold turkey when my current vape runs out
i don't even like it, it's just a bad habit
the candy flavored cancer smoke tastes good but the headrush feels terrible and they're expensive in the long run, not worth at all
>>530342052The inner circle's existence isn't tied to them being yesdevs. That's rhetoric that's being peddled to muddy the waters and make it seem like it's something inherent to the system. It's like a company telling you that it's impossible to make durable products because it would harm their profits
It's nice to see that nothing here has changed, it's still the rock bottom of progress posting and everyone is still treating it like a r9k soc board.
>>530341932what if instead of anime lolis you use AI to generate photorealistic little girls?
>>530342659Gaben isn't going to like that, not one bit
>>530300174wasteland bites dev? you're already onto another game, how so quick?
>>530336158>aneurotypicalso people like those of us who refused the vaxx?
>>530341292yes. making game is hard. even if i believe it can make it, it still needs to be handled right.
>>530342495inner circle is just a bunch of faggot LGBT communists who suck each other's girl dicks and cry about not getting to kill people who are richer and more successful than them, lmao
>>530339625Go away faggot
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might be time to reevaluate my anti-tranny design ethos
>who would you say is your game's target audience?
>>530342231Why should I care? Only losers care about other losers. They will never amount to anything, and neither will you. It's probably actually a good thing that they've isolated themselves into their own hugbox crab bucket. They want to split away their own discord DD? Who cares? Good for them. Are you also wasting your time on what reddit or tumblr devs are doing?
>>530341932Is this not just umamusume but cockfights?
>>530343126so i can dmca these guys right? i'd rather not have one of these people playing my game. what if i add a little ack character in my game would that work? what if add no-no words to my game that would trigger youtube/twitch to take the video down. an easy way to prevent people from streaming my video game.
>anonymous people worried about specific random anonymous people that may or may not exist when none of this matters and we're all nobodies
God I hate brainrotted zoomies
>>530343172>Who cares? Just ignore it!common disingenuous argument tactic. I asked you to just say the words without muddying them with any qualifications or caveats. Ignore individual people and what they can and should do in this situation, I asked you to just admit that as a basic fact the inner circle is a net negative and should not be presented as any kind of neutral entity within the community, since it actively decays the forum
Around 100 games release on Steam alone EACH DAY.
About 700 games in the week around your release.
AAA release? Successful release AAA or indie, in your genre? BOOM you are done.
Also, not only are you competing with other new releases, but the entire backlog of games on every system a player owns. :)
Take all the "indie success stories" you can think of in the past 10 years and divide it by the number of devs in that time who have tried (again, 100 games a day, 3000 a month) and there's your historical likelihood of "making it."
Steam cut, higher self-employment taxes, no benefits, no retirement, AND to top it all off: Your sales diminish over time, so even if you hit this "mediocrity lottery" you'll have to do it all over again in a couple years.
>He thinks that indie gamedev can provide a sustainable primary income in 2025
Hahahahaha
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>>530343240umamusume but with fmvs of real children
I know this place is mostly full of subhuman niggertasticals but I'll try to ask anyway, maybe there are still a few human beings lurking around.
I need to replace the objective icons in my game, I'm going to add translations to my game but the objective icons literally just have text on them (complete, in progress etc.) For failing and completing objectives it's obvious - a checkmark and an X cross respectively. But what about an icon for an "in progress" state of an objective? Any ideas?
This place is proven to be full of low IQ people because if it was any other way there would have been a large enough collection of people at some point that would have seen through the illusion of the inner circle and destroyed them. Instead you get an endless barrage of low IQ rationalizations about it
>>530329091this had so many issues on DD, i didn't think he was gonna put it on steam
>>530343521>inner circle is a net negativeOur values are not the same. You care about worthless garbage like thread (You)s and DD plays, and until you can move beyond that, you're never going to make it.
it's crazy how one guy ruined this general
>>530343404You are already whoring yourself out for gaben, what's the problem accepting ackbucks?
>>530341292My game has been performing pretty good in the marketing I've been doing, but really the biggest factor I've seen for whether or not players actually enjoy and understand the game is if they click one button and actually follow along with a short goal list.
>>530343886Many such cases
>>530343886stop being dramatic, ICE hasn't even started raiding /agdg/ yet
>>530343126lmao i remember shodanon desperately defending this game in his threads on launch day saying it's "not a tranny game"
shit was obvious as day kek
>>530343712a clock is the usual solution
>>530343879If it doesn't matter then surely you can just say it? Just say the words. It's an active detriment to having a functioning community. Why does this place exist if the goal is not for it to function? If you're not interested in being present in a community then why are you here in the first place? Why would anyone come here if it wasn't because they are looking for a community to take part in?
Just say that the inner circle is a net negative and an active detriment or you are an enemy who's trying to twist and obfuscate the truth.
>>530343712An animated ellipsis, a rotating dial, a clock, a loading bar, a rotating gear.
>>530336742>t. the ad hominem guySo want proof? Here:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41386-023-01570-y.pdf
>>530340319>I mean your argument sounds right>but you need to understand that you still could be wrong>and I need to call all of you delusional losers so you stop defying my arguments>you see? I'm a free thinker who's looking for the truth>that's why I'm posting this comic>and you're just copingAnyway Mr. Freud, if you're so illuminated, then explain why your game doesn't have 1000+ reviews on steam and are still here arguing with all of these "delusional losers".
and again, assuming that you actually have a game lmao
the only disadvantage of being in the inner circle seems to be that you get one very persistent schizo
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>>530343712pick your poison
>>530344191damn, this nigga spitting truthbombs
>>530332943Not that anon, and I think the analogy is fucking stupid, and has nothing to do with anything.
But I think kebab is better than pizza, because you can eat it without getting your hands dirty. Almost all the pizzas I've ate, had the topping fall off, and shoveling it back is just not the same. Meanwhile you can't fuck up eating a kebab.
>>530344191>why your game doesn't have 1000+ reviews on steam
>>530344257Did the discord pay you to come say this? They should have sent someone better
How many downloads do you consider a good result?
If there are 70 submissions, so 70 downloads are perfect and 35 are not bad?
>>530344191Why are intelligent posters like you completely missing most of the time? Once in a blue moon a guy shows up that sees the obvious lies and then disappears
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>>530341292A little. The few who give a shit about my plot say it is bad or bland. Which is kinda important for an RPG. I also implemented the tutorial into the beginning of the story, so changing it will be a bit of a pain.
>>530344642more than 0 downloads = good result for me
>>530344642I got 9
I kinda lost faith in this place
>>530344469it's idiocy. The priests/shamans/whoever have always weaponized the general public's retardation and willingness to believe nonsense.
>muh ENERGYKinetic, or what...?
>n-no like hidden energy nevermind you don't get it
>Alchimera femboy dungeon crawler
>>530343404supposedly making a DMCA claim on youtube is much easier than reversing it
I'm so tired of these pointless off topic discussions.
>>530344941Every DD I get 1 solid portion of feedback, still worth it.
>>530345143it doesn't even have screenshots. Whodevs need to be gunned down in the streets
>>530343847just the usual aggydaggy launch with zero marketing and even during a fucking steam sale lmao
>>530345195This. I've got two valuable feedbacks, and while I can use that to improve, it was worth it.
Those of you who wanted more, I've got bad news for you.
Discord needs to just completely sever from the thread. But they also can't do that, because their circlejerk runs dry and they need to recruit fresh meat into their hierarchy.
It's been that way for years, they have an absolute seething hatred for the thread and anonymity in general, but they know completely that they would be absolutely irrelevant without it.
Very ugly shit. I remember what a struggle it was to get it out of the OP, and the same with many other generals. They were furious, because they both hate the thread (and actively make it worse), but also are nothing without it.
>>530343126xhe is a valid 'cord bosci xister playing a heccin wholesome /agdg/ game, we should focus on people NOT playing our games
>>530345413Good, it's gay and stupid. People need to return to random progress discussion banter and stop with the social network bullshit of needing attention.
>>530344120I've gained plenty from /agdg/, but none of it came from posting my game(s). When I first got into gamedev, I did my own market research and came up with the "average playtime" theory, which you may remember me posting quite a bit about over a year ago. I first thought Zukowski was just another grifter and dismissed most of what he had to say, but nowadays, I'm convinced, and more or less follow his school of thought, with genre and "magics" mattering more than average playtime.
4chan is pretty much the only social media that I use, so without this, I would have little to no exposure. With /agdg/, I don't need to scour twitter, youtube, or Steam releases, since eceleb worshipers and baitposters will do that for me.
>>530345341What if we started a new game developer general on /vg/ that stays on topic and only sticks to progress posting and replies?
It would be like the /v/ threads except it would be legally regular
>>530345413whodevs ruined it.
imo you should have to point at a certain frequency of progress posting to participate in DD.
>>530339679Kek I can tell you faggots have no idea how the world works, getting dates for them even in their 50s is easy getting a husband is the hardmode
>>530345341Discord is completely irrelevant. The sooner you children realize this the happier you will be. Just work on your fucking games you stupid faggots.
>>530345413I don't like seeing the same demos over and over again on all the streams. I know it's good publicity but I feel like people should only submit their demo when it has had significant changes.
>>530345550You still haven't said it...
>>530345695note the
>the men she wants to have sex withpart
>>530345413This thread hasn't been good since the monday recap died.
>>530345143I played it, I thought it had the beginning of an atmosphere and some potential, though it's obviously still very early in the dev cycle. Dem juicy asses though.
I also played Armaphract today, it made my graphics card feel like it was running Cyberpunk at max RT settings. Cool artstyle, menus are a bit rough, not really my cup of tea for game genres though.
>>530345778Do you really want me to lie to you that badly, just to make you feel better? Just like what the inner circle does for each other? Are you asking me to create our own circle?
Inner Circlebros, we can't stop winning.
>>530345953I just want you to say the truth. If you needed to be completely objective. If you had two versions of agdg and could choose between them with a switch, which one would you choose. Would you choose the one with an entrenched hugbox mafia?
>>530345976nigger you are evil
>>530346223>nigger you are evil
My circle is will be tighter than any other.
I started noticing jittering in pixel art godot games...
>>530346062I would choose /pgdg/, where we ignore schoolyard drama, discuss measurable market metrics, share technical expertise, and maybe even collab.
>>530346454godot 5 will fix that
>>530346062it depends on if i get to be part of the mafia
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The main appeal of this gamedev community over all others is that it wasn't a reddit faggot daycare. The discord completely fucked that over. It was the one selling point that /agdg/ had but because this hobby flooded with complete normalfag animals over the last 5 years it was inevitable that this place would fill up with them and they would annoy all the competent high-IQ white devs out of the place. This is why 2020 /agdg/ feels so drastically different from now. You will notice that every single pro-discord pro-inner-circle anti-crab sensibility is very redditesque at its core. They turned the only nonreddit dev community into reddit and you're telling me that that's a good thing?
>>530346630gambler mindset. You're very much part of the problem
>>530346635this, too many bug chungus redditors who call any kind of feedback "crabbing", I don't even bother playing dd games anymore I just focus on my own
>>530342231>>530343521>>530344120The Inner Circle is an active net benefit to the functionality of the community, and this place would be worse off without them. This is a standalone fact.
>>530345953>>530346531You still haven't said it.
You seem to be resisting way too hard for this to be sincere
>>530346635I love hugboxgdg!
>>530346872Eat shit and die osur (asswhore)
>>530346635newfags don't know that this is why we were against the discord to begin with
>snoringtroon trying to ingratiate xerself into the 'cord inner circle and getting nothing but crickets
lurking there ain't so bad for a laugh now and again
>>530346635>>530346975I am King Crab, and I approve of the Discord. People should be able allowed their own segregated communities if they so choose. It's a net positive to the thread that those kind of people choose to spend more of their time there and not here.
>>530319584im racist, will reddit hate my game and give it bad reviews?
>>530346873what you using chud
>>530346635the number of times i've seen "you're going places" in DD feedback is alarming
>>530347187> segregated communitiesthen why does that "segregated community" use our demo day and invade our threads when they keep insisting that they left because they "don't like it anymore"? Seems like they hang around here quite a lot despite their insistence that they can't stand "muh negativity"
if they really just segregated themselves there would be no problem to begin with. The current dynamic is that they have a discord where they are ornganized in a centralized way (unlike us) and do constant raiding (they will deny this is the case, but that's what it is, because they constantly discuss what's happening here and bring their buddies over the disrupt discussions)
>>530347507They sound like they want to make their own, and that's great. These things take time, and perhaps we're in a transitional period. You should be encouraging them to make their own DD gamejam instead of lashing out.
>>530344191Quite frankly, this post is based and the anon he's responding to is cringe
>inner circle anticrab faggots when you tell them to stop harassing and discriminating any /agdg/ game by a less popular dev
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>>530346454Yes, they jitter like a motherfucker by default.
>>530347820Lmao like they're ever gonna do that
>>530345341 is right on the money. They can't go completely independent because that would sink them entirely. They leech off the threads because the threads is where the energy and new blood comes from. Without the 4chan element they are dead. I've watched plenty of devs transition from 4chan gigachud edgelords to literal thoughtpolice overly sensitive discord trannies.
This whole system's fucked
I have anti-innercicle fatigue
>>530347934schizophrenics when they realize there was no secret society preventing people from playing their game
>>530348192I think this is a fine system. /agdg/ acts as a low barrier to entry gateway. After spending enough time here, you can choose to join the NGMI hugbox discord, or you can make a successful game, graduate, and leave forever.
>wake up
>eat breakfast
>go to work
>come home
>eat lunch
>dev
>check thread to see how DD is going
>nothing but schizoposts made by insufferable, seething retards who got banned from the discord
yup, par for the course
/agdg/ was an anomaly to begin with. A creative community existing in an anonymous extremist website was always going to fail eventually. Creative communities are run by leftists. When one emerges like this against all odds leftists are eventually going to find it and turn it into one of their resetera hugboxes. There is no agdg gamergate that will come and save us. We've been marked for death for a long time.
You are not popular because you have shit/non-existent personality
>>530344748>Why are intelligent posters like youOh anon, stop!
Most of the time I have so much to say that at the end I decide to don't say anything lol, or save it for later.
>A free thinker is someone who seeks the truth of reality.The thing is, this take time, and most importantly, humility, just look how this discussion started. There's no easy answer for pretty much anything, but there are some who pretend to give easy answers for complex scenarios.
Right now I'm cultivating good habits, and in this process I noticed something about the inner circle, something... pathetic, as you could expect lol. The thing is, when pathetic people have a sense of power they are dangerous, and that's ALSO what I'm noticing here, that's why I'm intervening with all in, normally I just mock at their stupidity and move on lol.
I'm gonna be the very best
gamedev they're ever wuz
>>530348662>extremist websiteyou fucking bat, you likely only know of a time post-/pol/
also this is a major fucking hugbox, always has been
>>530348356>>530348424the newfag hobbydev thinks the class system will benefit him!
custom IK solver working to aim
>>530348985BBC would like to have a word with you.
>3 /pol/ tabs
you're not even trying anymore
can you please just post your fucking game or gtfo
I think anon was very right when he said that the only people speaking in support of the inner circle are either the actual members, who directly benefit from it, or the low-level devs who aren't in it but think they are one of the select few who will just be accepted into the circle if they play along long enough
in that way it's a lot like the delusion most devs have that they are the 1 in a million whose game is so unique and special that they are just destined to make it. There's nothing wrong with the industry in that sense because they are special enough to overcome it!
I will name my studio Big Black Games (BBG)
my game is gonna have females that look like this
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>they don't even know I'm part of the secret neo-nazi gamedev /d/iscord that controls the entire indie scene
>>530324786yes it does. most of my work ethic was spent in school, my reward nothing
no surprise i can barely do more than a few hours of gamedev per day, less when i waged.
my game is gonna have females that look like this
>>530348662Lol I and a few other devs that made it (that I know personally) left this general in 2014. I check in every few years for fun but good Lord what a wreck it is now.
>>530349387Anyone who serious talks about the "inner circle" or any kind of /agdg/ groups is ngmi
>>530349958With a single tweet to my followers I can tank any game that has offended me and destroy the dev's career.
>>530349254>"extreme free speech message board">look inside>mods and jannies do whatever the fuck they want and ban people arbitrarily
>>530324786The cope required makes you schizophrenic. You rely on internal drive to such an extent that it causes severe delusions, driving you to abject madness.
Scrubbing toilets for minimum wage keeps you sane because, despite the work being shitty, at least you get a paycheck every two weeks.
Working on your game all day every day, for months/years, in hopes that it will eventually be received positively, will absolutely make you irrationally delusional.
I can only imagine how good it feels for your game to find success.
>>530350389you don't have the brainpower for basic survival. You're a coddled cattlefaggot that never questions why he's being raised by the farmer. You have no critical thinking and pattern recognition. Do yourself a favour and kill yourself. NOW.
>>530350068anon, that's a boy
>>530350758the phrase "free speech" is supposed to scare you - remember that ww2 was caused by free speech according to the experts at msnbc
Since demo day is over what is your favorite game from dd.
For me it's absolutely Future Phantoms, I really loved the atmosphere, story felt a little relatable but I just wish the combat had something more unique to it, like a special gimmick or something. The only other rpgmaker game I ever played was Lisa the painful and that game had its combo system you could use.
Is this a good place to discuss my concerns about my creative future?
My game is going to have a schizo character named Ms. Enbisee
>>530350925no miss tachibana is a very fine lady with canon long legs
>try making incremental slop
>fail miserably, no ideas
>try making friendslop
>fail miserably, no ideas
>try making streamerbait slop
>fail miserably, no ideas
I can't slopdev. It's impossible.
I need to remain loyal to my passion.
I can't do anything else.
Fast money will not be found here.
The road ahead is long and arduous.
>>530350868This is true. You could say I'm just barely getting started into my game's developement (1 year in so far) and I'm already getting sick despite having nothing and working on it almost daily with a few periods of procrastination. Brah I haven't even hit the 80/20 wall yet.
Indeed finishing a game probably feels cathartic, I can't wait.
>>530350868thanks for this post. good information
I think I found an actual use case for generative AI
AI-generated font
Most games currently just use an already-existing licensed font
>>530345143kek i saw the comments but never posted em, it was funny
>theres no warning or comment about it being a porn game>I wish there was a warning before the game fully full screened showing off the dude's cock too
>>530348719>There's no easy answer for pretty much anything, but there are some who pretend to give easy answers for complex scenarios.Perhaps I present things to be simpler than it appears to you because I've done far more thinking and processing. Simplifications, adages, and rule of thumbs are not meant to be correct 100% of the time. They are meant to be right in an overwhelmingly high number of situation to. As you become smarter and need to do more complex tasks like creating a market-competitive video game, you need to make these simplifications, or you will be held back by analysis paralysis and decision fatigue. For example, if you go to >>>/pol/ and find an OP that starts with "Why", you should already know that the answer is one of 3 things.
>>530351502i told yall ideaguying is the hardest part of gamedev
What games did I miss out of DD?
>>530351575I've only made super small games so far, and haven't made any money, but still uploaded them to Steam and received positive reviews. It feels great to know that people enjoyed something you created. Making money from it, on the other hand, is a completely different beast. My limiting factor has been a lack of promotion. No problem. I'll figure this out. All is well.
You are correct. It feels incredible to know your game is finally finished to the quality levels you expect. As previously mentioned, in regards to financial returns, I'm not there yet. Hopefully my next game will provide something reasonable.
Good luck with your game. I hope development goes well.
>>530352168how would I know
>>530351632*yoink* :) I'll be licensing this, and looking out for it in your game, thanks bro, no hard feelings
>>530351265I wear this trip as a badge of bravery and courage for God almighty.
>>530351429I was never in it for the money, but i am not sure if i should go through with it anymore.
>>530352263you are a fag sucking any cock for a dribble of attention
>>530351930It really is. I'm good at atmosphere in my games, but coming up with systems is far beyond my reach. I've only ever played super linear singleplayer games, or competitive PvP games, so I genuinely have no experience with incremental, idle, or co-op games. I need to stick to what I know best, and make games I'm familiar with.
You are correct. Coming up with good ideas is by far my biggest hurdle. It's easy to come up with *an* idea, but to then develop it, playtest it, and review it critically? Very difficult.
>>530351632only use of this would be extending current fonts to include asian glyphs, which i dont trust the AI to get right
>>530351803true, but the other guy is right also
>>530352171Thanks, but yeah I didn't mention money because that's a different thing.
I've made small games also but the feeling doesn't last when you haven't spent a while making them, or you can finish them in 5 minutes. This is probably why most devs in the general want to make their big dream games, it just feels different (probably)
>>530351632case in point, this font doesnt even have a 3
>>530352712who needs 3? worthless digit.
I'm making a text adventure in C
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considering a Godot side project as an enginedev. Just how much quicker development is this Godot thing?
you play as the ideaguy and you have to come up with an idea and make your own video game
I want everybody in here to do me a favor. Nah, donโt even do me a favor. Do YOURSELF a favor. I want you to grab your nuts--grab your balls. I want you to take a handful and just grab your nuts real quick. Swivel them around in a circular motion. And I want you to think about it, and realize those two balls that you have, and understand that you are a man. Understand, genetically, you were gifted a set of balls and a cock. Act like it. Act like it. That ballsack with those two nuts produce TESTOSTERONE, not ESTROGEN. So take your hand, grab your NUTS, swivel them around. Some of you have probably never played with your balls enough to test your testicles out, and see what they feel like through the skin. You're just walking around with two nuts swinging and a cock! And you don't even realize what you got! Stop coming in here and acting like bitches.
>>530353185Infinite, because you'll never finish your enginedev game while you just might ship something with Godot.
if I spent 100,000 hours of my childhood playing blender instead of minecraft I would literally be printing money right now
>>530349464My game doesn't and will not have any females in it
>>530352790You need it to combine it with a colon to make the cat face :3
>>530353381I have a bodycam level idea... right now and I may implement it in a small Godot side project...
>>530353463Many such cases!
My game would have like 3x more wishlists if I made all the characters cute critters like cats.
>>530346454How did old games pull it off?
>pixel perfect>no jitter>perfectly filled the screen>>530349464I wish I had one like this irl all for myself.
>>530351930Ideaguyying is quite easy for us ideaguys. Funny how we're treated as not being worth paying.
>>5303537926x more if they were anime catgirls (non-lewd designs)
>>530353463I print money with a stable career job I guy with 0 effort. So who cares.
https://youtu.be/iyjPbsnOE8k
post inspirational gameplay footage
>>530347419built for hokage
>>530353913>64 GBawwwwwww thats so cute! 64 wittle giggy bites? i'm so proud of kojima for filling such a lil amt lol
come back when its 2TB like my idea usb stick
I have been thinking for some days on how to put enemies and objects in my text adventure in C. I'm still learning C, that's actually why I'm making a text adventure.
I think about: Does the living-room "have" three goblins and a table, or is there an aspect of the goblins and table that says "I'm in the living-room"
>>530354131You're not very intelligent, huh?
>>530354085maybe it's only holding the ideas he considers most likely to do very well?
guys... I have a bodycam tier idea right now and I need to prototype it quick in Godot.
>>530353032What's it about?
>>530353648>>530354354Godot is terrible for asset flipping. Bodycam could not exist without free UE assets.
>>530354354You can't do a bodycam game in Godot. The whole point is it looks like IRL through a shitty camera.
>>530354478I would make my own assets.
>>530354494It'd be clay-like stylized graphics. not photo real.
if this Godot side project gets me to be a multi-millionaire while I'm working on my Engine Dev Main Game ......
guys... this idea..
>>530354354i wonder how the dev of Unrecord feels like right now
>>530354131Unironically just ask this to an AI (literally just copy-paste your post). It's good at this surface-level stuff.
In code, dreams collide,
Pixel skies stretch far and wide,
But no game inside.
>>530354085post your 64k demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6INL_pxX8L4
>>530345584undesirables from this thread would ruin it in a day
>>530355105I filtered all the shitposting, avatarfags, and pedophiles, which one got b&?
>>530354243Do you have something more substantial to add?
>>530354469It's just about learning C. So, nothing really. But I might go a little autist with some math stuff since that's my background. Weather system, temperature diffusion, fluids or something, idk.
More just a more fun way to learn C than reading textbooks.
>>530354697No.
>>530355509Yes game inside tho
AI clonedev brahmin chads are going to mog each of you so brutally next year
>>530345717Everyone who has ever succeeded in here has been on the discord. Something to think about.
>>530346635Internet was taken over by shitskins. /agdg/ included. In 2020 it was already ruined. Last time the thread was decent was like around 2015. Maybe 2017-2018 at most.
Shitskins ruin everything they touch. They cannot create and they suck at copying. They can't even maintain something that's handed down to them by superior beings.
having a trailer at all puts you instantly in the top 50% in steam, top 25% if that trailer isn't just 5 minutes of the unity preview window captured with obs running at 20 FPS
>>530356073No one on the discord has succeeded
>>530351803>Perhaps I present things to be simpler than it appears to you because I've done far more thinking and processing.>4chan faggot incel who has never had a friend or anyone enjoy his company >>530332839>and that was actually psychoanalysis you know? >>530334067>That's you in your autistic NGMI /v/tard amateur hobbycope circlejerk. >>530340319Is this thinking and processing for you?
I prefer autistic analysis like picrel.
>>530347507You seem to think that the dudes on the discord care about what you think. They don't. They're too busy making games. There's no raiding happening and there's almost no talk about the thread. That's something you're imagining in your head because you live in this thread instead of making games.
>decide I need to make levels now
>ok but what if instead of making levels I spend 2 weeks making a level editor?
>ok 2 weeks making the very barebones basics of a level editor
Trying to make it look presentable so that players can use it to make content so I don't have to.
feels weird knowing that they actually trained chatgpt on enough /agdg/ posts to create a greentext story this accurate
>>530355745A lot of the deleted posts seem to be about shitting on Godot so it was probably so enginewarring faggot
>>530356539>[Post a Reply]>[Return] [Catalog] [Top]>638 / 135 / 1>[Uis that why they call themselves /agdg/ and constantly complain about the threads being too negative and too "crabby" or "crabtacular" (direct quote)? They are completely obsessed with the threads otherwise they wouldn't have their daily ritual of lamenting how they got kicked out of here for being too huge faggots
>>530356230All the /agdg/ games that have done over 100 reviews are from people in the discord.
>>530356823>All the /agdg/ games that have done over 100 reviews are from people in the discord.
>>530356817The reason the discord is called /agdg/ is because it was made by people from here for people from here.
>and constantly complain about the threads being too negative and too "crabby" or "crabtacular" (direct quote)? They are completely obsessed with the threads otherwise they wouldn't have their daily ritual of lamenting how they got kicked out of here for being too huge faggotsThis is all happening in your imagination.
>>530356614chatjippity can drop hard Rs?
>>530356823that's a real stretch of the word success
all the /agdg/ games that sharted and pissed and flopped are also on the discord. have anything to say about that?
WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT
NO, WE AIN'T GONNA TAKE IT
WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT
ANYMOOOOOOOOOOOOORE
>>530357065Only if you ask it in a certain way. If you just straight up tell it to say "nigger" it will refuse.
>>530357015lying comes so natural to you, you might as well be jewish
>>530356267We're not thinking on the same scale. Case studies contain far too much noise and will always be less accurate and precise than large sample statistical analysis. That dev has been consistently shipping 1k+ review small games for close to a decade. You are not in the same situation as him.
>>530355949All tech companies that have tried to enter the gaming market and they all failed.
Google failed.
Amazon failed.
Panasonic failed.
Microsoft failed. (They did. The Xbox has been a failure for over a decade only prepped up by Microsoft's infinite money)
I am extremely skeptical of Elon trying to succeed in the video game market. The AI has nothing to do with it - AI is just a new tool. The tools aren't why tech companies keep failing in the game industry, nor is the budget or programming talent (these are all rich companies with extremely talented engineers). They keep failing because they think the game industry is a part of tech industry and treat it as such. Elon is similar. Also he's socially autistic and not in the "talented auteur" kind of way. He's socially autistic in the "can't appeal to common people" kind of way, which is the antithesis of a mass media like video games.
>>530356817>They are completely obsessed with the threads otherwise they wouldn't have their daily ritual of lamenting how they got kicked out of here for being too huge faggotshe thread so shit that people recognise that posting here is a waste of time, if you want to consider that 'kicking them out' then I congratulations you're the king of a hill of shit.
>>530357508>lying comes so natural to you, you might as well be jewish
>>530357065Make Retarded Great Again
agdg discord crimes
retardation manchild daycare
>he's still mad that osur got so many more (You)s on a progress post than he could ever
yooo this nigga flygoon getting riled up by catposting
agdg discord crimes
actual ERP server
>>530358019Catposters hold the 'cord while bocchers watch the thread
I would like to talk about developing videogames, please.
>>530358342dis nigga rodbot ZESTY
so he just IP hopped after getting banned and is now spamming then?
>>530357701Microsoft succeeded in the early 2000s
BUT THEN
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XU_Avx9cLZ4
agdg discord crimes
fanatic sycophanty
I feel like Charlie with the Golden Ticket with this small Godot bodycam-like game idea.
>>530358485Nyo, let me vent out pddd
I have a pretty fun idea next, kind of wanted to side project it up but really shouldn't, so I'll keep on braindevving it and polishing it up in my mind until I'm done and it's basically a diamond idea.
>>530357653>We're not thinking on the same scale.Of course not. You can extract A LOT of information from that image, but since you're only focused on yourself and muh 1k+ reviews that's the only thing you will see.
>>530359438I use both
Die mad
>>530357701>GoogleHas taken 30% of every dollar spent on Android gaming for the past 20 years, they've probably made more money off gaming than any company in history including Steam.
>AmazonOwns Twitch.
>Panasonic??? The 3DO? That was before most people here were born, get over it.
>MicrosoftGaming has been extremely profitable for them, is arguably the reason they dominate the desktop PC market, and they literally publish a gorillion major titles including WoW.
>>530359958>>Microsoft>Gaming has been extremely profitable for them, is arguably the reason they dominate the desktop PC market, and they literally publish a gorillion major titles including WoW.Dropping a billion dollars to buy a huge corporation doesn't mean you're profitable in the end, because you have to recoup that enormous cost.
>>530359958Twitch isn't actually profitable last time I checked. And whether MS is actually making money is debatable.
But yeah I guess you're right about Google.
>>530359474There's no information there that's relevant to my own goals. I work towards making good games that people want to play. I'm not searching for copout marketing strategies for convincing people to play subpar games that they don't already want to play. I couldn't give less of a fuck if a few literal who streamers play my game. If all of the top streamers and youtubers within my genre are not lining up to play my game without me asking, then my game is a failure in my eyes. I'm also not an autistic retard who's afraid of interacting with and working with others.
>>530359958And where exactly is the 3DO nowadays, anon
>>530360510In a box in my basement.
Where is (you)r game anon?
>>530355509Wtf a fellow haiku enjoyer? Let's collab
>>530360667hey, that was in my thermodynamics textbook in college.
>>530359958 I was talking about making games to sell them, which is what Elon is trying to do. Making money by "owning a streaming service" or "owning a digital store" makes you a tech company, not a game company. Game companies make games and consoles. Twitch is a tech company, not a game company. Google just owns a digital store (AKA tech) but people aren't buying their actual gaming product (remember the Stadia).
Elon COULD make money by making a gaming-focused AI that he then sells/rents/licenses to actual game companies; my point is that he is going to fail at making games and selling them, because making games is not a tech thing, even though games and techs are both made with programming.
>>530359958Google's success is comparable to walmart selling games. Significant income for them but they're hardly a player in the industry. When they tried to enter the industry with their own streaming console gimmick it bombed hard.
>>530360667It's the Apocalypse.
It's this world's final myth.
>>530360812your sloppa certainly isn't a game
>>530361261Elon may be smart (I doubt it) but he's certainly got zero wisdom and charisma FACT
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>>530351127For me it's Illusive Domain
>>530361260mine too, very good text actually.
Well that was another thread full of nothing, no game devving in sight.
>>530361317No, Google is much more like Steam than they are like Walmart. And once again, probably made more money off the gaming industry than any other company on the planet.
>>530362341you should have disavowed the inner circle
>>530362341you should join the inner circle. you know where to find us
>>530362638this is what your discussions boil down to
>>530358342you're the most retarded most arrogant person in existence if you believe you're any better than the lowlifes in this thread
>>530360447>I'm also not an autistic retard who's afraid of interacting with and working with others.>If all of the top streamers and youtubers within my genre are not lining up to play my game without me asking, then my game is a failure in my eyesOk Mr. seething Freud, are you ready to accept that these posts
>>530332947>>530336262>>530333650>>530334284were right before?
because you're conveniently avoiding the point
liq should just rename the server from /agdg/ to Inner Circle at this point. They're a completely separate entity that has nothing to do with 4chan
>>530362089I tried like 30 games but somehow not this one. Unrelated but I never see the dev post progress about it here.
>>530363406Imma be real here anon: At least half the games that make it into DD I never see posted here.
>>53036311590% of marketing is your product. See
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>>530362341I asked people what they thought about attaching entities to rooms vs rooms "having" entities but only got one person saying I'm a dummy.
It's pretty early gamedev concerns I'm sure, but I'm only beginning. Anyhow I don't mind, but I still would like thoughts (no I have no interest in asking AI)
>>530363406Saw his progress posts on discord. Chill guy.
>>530363406>>530363498They're called "whodevs" and they're the reason nobody gives a shit about Demo Day anymore.
We used to keep a list of whodevs. They're scum, really.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3795540/DELETE/
your 100 games a day, sir
the indie side of the games industry used to be synonymous with creative outsiders and risktakers. Nowadays indie includes all the normie wannabe amateurs who are the biggest establishment bootlickers in existence. That's why you all produce slop. It's not because you haven't figured out the perfect scam yet, it's because you're biologically unfit to make games. Fuck off and leave this place forever. You don't belong here. Game development isn't for everybody. Your games are shit. They are barely games. Nobody wants to play them. You can see how badly Marnix performs with a whole team of 4 people and the reach of a youtube channel. You're just like him but without those advantages. So what can you really accomplish here? You're wasting your own time. If you're not 110% sure that you want to do this even if you had all the money in the world, then you were never supposed to be doing it in the first place.
I hope the next thread will have devs posting progress at least.
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>>530363703>Saw his progress posts on discord.So it's not part of the thread or /agdg/ community.
"The discord" has nothing actually to do with /agdg/, they just call themselves that.
If you don't post in the thread, but put up a demo for DD, then you are a whodev, simple as.
>>530363874Don't count on it. I'll still be there exposing the inner circle
>>530364019>Don't count on it. I'll still be there exposing the inner circle
>>530363731Yeah tbdesu the games I wanted to play the most were the ones I saw teased on the threads. Maybe devs should do that more. Its enticing.
This thread is only good for venting dev pressure.
It's not a circle. It's a spiral.
>>530364270you couldn't even conceive what these threads used to be 10 years ago zoomer newfaggot
>>530363945>/agdg/ discord>not part of the communityMaybe they'll post here if the no devs stop doxxing and get schizo hate boners for no reason.
>>530364409They are free to post anytime they want. It's not anybody's fault but their own that they are thin-sknned feminized sensitive sissies who can't take criticism
maybe they should take this guy's advice
>>530353358
threadonlies lmao
yeah i get it, you want more games to shitpost about and pretend to be the dev of because you have no real productive hobby and frankly you aren't even capable of having one (cognition problems)
>>530363406He did post here occasionally
>>530356579Cool. What game is this? By the way making your own tools that are hyper specific and focused might save you a lot of time in the future
>>530363529The answer is both. For the purposes of serialization (i.e. loading/saving/multiplayer), you generally want a tree with a thick trunk and thin branches, although it honestly don't matter too much. At runtime, if you need bi-directional referencing, then pass the the reference down as you load. i.e. Your base data class Room contains strong references to the entities that it holds. When you load a Room and all its Entities, the Room can pass a reference of itself to each Entity to hold and call back if it needs any information about the Room.
Alternatively, you can uses global/singleton systems to make this connection, such as the physics engine, or with Groups (Godot) or Tags (Unity). You should really learn to use a real engine to see how others have already solved these problems instead of stumbling around in the dark.
How come nobody is making a raceist game?
>The inner circle isn't real!
>Just STOP CARING!!!
>>530356620>>530355745Lmao, it's exactly who you think it is. The godot hate is a dead give away.
>>530337642Umโฆ thanks? I will improve the gameplay, but I donโt think Jusha is even in the same league with Landsword yet, not sure why the hates, but I really enjoy Landsword
>>530365684Landsword is the lamest most boring agdg game ever conceived
>>530364243I mean it makes sense. There's a literal kajillion rando indie games out there. Just because some literal who drops their demo into the /agdg/ DD doesn't mean I'm suddenly interested.
>b-b-b-but I post in "the discord"! The 'cord!!Doesn't matter, post progress in the threads or you are a whodev.
>>530365739I donโt want to try what you are smoking
>>530365684I enjoyed Landsword a lot as well, it's my most played of this DD.
Didn't get to play Jusha cuz the dev removed the demo when it was over.
>>530365684>>530365739>>530365887twitter overhype syndrome
some poster talked about it a few threads back. Games that look really snazzy and shiny in gif form but have mind-numbingly pointless or unfun gameplay, or none at all in the case of Landsword
>>530365684landshart cultists have not yet been able to name one thing that's good about the gameplay
>>530366021Yeah I removed it cause I feel a bit ashamed, I wanted to be able to deliver a better experience, I wasnt expect lots of feedbacks with heart in it, I want to cook better before showing it next time.
>>530364704Thanks for the thoughts though it's quite vague. I'm familiar with trees of the poset kind but your talk of thick trunk and thin branches doesn't really connect for me.
>You should really learn to use a real engine to see how others have already solved these problems instead of stumbling around in the dark.Nah, I mean, my goal isn't really making games. At least not text adventures in C. I wouldn't call it stumbling in the dark as much as, wandering around looking at plants or something. I'm ok re-solving things others have already solved, quite used to it really, and it's not necessarily a bad thing.
>>530362089How did he do graphics like this?
>>530366489she trooned out
>>530366247I really enjoy the game feels, the explosions, the guns, sfx, vfx, all those things make it feel really good to shoot. Level has the right difficulty, has some really cool tense moments. With more progression it will be amazing.
>>530366584The inner circle is trying to stop me from getting any more downloads.
>>530363731>weWho is this "we" you asshurt NGMI dev. Your game sucks and visiting it via vpns to bump up it's ranking isn't gonna make it into a GMI game.
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>>530366489What part? Shader-wise there's nothing crazy in the game. Honestly I think it needs more even lighting because the shading (shadows and AO) can get awkward in some scenes.
I've been using UE5 for like 3 hours. How do I multiplayer?
>>530366350Yes, trees of the poset kind. Look at any common data interchange like JSON, XML, YAML, etc. They're trees. Look at how scene trees work in any engine, framework, or even any tool that deals with collections of entities, such as Blender. They all use the same general "scene tree" paradigm.
>Nah, I mean, my goal isn't really making games.Then don't expect to get responses in the gamedev thread.
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>>530363731whodev here
This is how my game looked five days before the jam, there was nothing to show really.
Before June 18th I was a nodev.
I decided to give feedback in DD62 just after someone made an alt account shitting into other games (I still laugh when I remember that).
My next step will be stop being a whodev.
>>530366927I like the effects in the pic over here
>>530362089. If it's shaders then lol I have little or no knowledge on them. Though in that pic the ground looks dark compared to the characters.
Day 38 on a Thread for Project C-Con โ "It worked you just can't see it" Edition
Journal logs are being posted into /agdg/ daily.
Came to the conclusion we will be disbanding from the donut modeling course and focusing now on creating real importable game assets. What we got out of the course was basic Blender skills and controls which is what we needed, now it'd be best if we split. Besides that today we worked more on Fusel's C++ course and learned what a tick is, and wrote some more C++.
What is Project C-Con?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10J54VHQz5HygejRwN7N6d3-tCY_-EhwJLqs-EBrUx8k/edit?usp=sharing
Todayโs Log:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GIhbWHKDqS5qohn1knMiFSArFf8bbxzJL-5u-eVv30I/edit?usp=sharing
Current Trello:
https://trello.com/invite/b/68451978bbc485dd38cb0b5b/ATTI293a4fca1b86409df4ab24965a60d1429BB11CCE/c-cons-rd
>>530367112>Though in that pic the ground looks dark compared to the characters.To be clear this is in reference to the floor in
>>530366927.
No headset once again. Which means no streaming. I partly don't want to play any of the game's I downloaded on the off-chance I stream/record them but who'd watch a voiceless video? I can't even give auditory feedback.
>>530362089I downloaded it but haven't played it, many downloads please understand.
>>530367112The glow of the character is probably from setting their material to emissive. The blurry glowy part is bloom. The sparkles are a simple particle effect. A yellow light is spawned to also brighten up everything in the area.
Pic related is the most interesting shading I noticed in the demo. The lighting ramp is a bit unusual if it's a real light, but if it's not, you could fake this with an emission map.
>>530367619how to get fog like that in the background?
>>530367106oh dude I liked your game, it was fun
the concept is neat but it hurt my brain so I stopped playing after the rotating bone screen but the idea is cool
I've been trying "vibe coding", though I have a fair amount of programming experience in the past, but trying it with a new language.
One of the worst parts that nobody talks about, is coming back 2 days later, it really feels exactly like looking at someone else's code. I say this even as someone who isn't blindly copy-pasting and at the time, I feel like I really understand ~80%+ of it. Often having it walk through what doesn't make sense to me.
But coming back, it still looks entirely unfamiliar in a way that hasn't happened for me before. I guess because I just have absolutely no connection made to the code. There was no struggle/resolution that imprinted on me.
Weird stuff. I think it's a pretty helpful tool for people who can already code fairly or very well. For all others, I think it's worse than a dead-end, in a way.
>>530367619She's beautiful. If only I was good at 3D art.
>>530367596Use a pair of headphones. Yes it works that way, just plug it into the mic jack of your computer.
this is the lowest IQ general on the board
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>>530367845It artifacts like a ray marched cloud/fog solution. I don't know how to write that myself, but there's tons of assets for this kind of thing.
>>530368031Same ;_;
>>530368356Have you seen uh... /osg/?
>>530368031Posts like these are why marmoshart flopped, don't take feedback from retards with no taste (even less than normalfags)
>>530362391Steam is targeting games. Google sells anything. It's not like they set out to make a game store on the phone. Steam is also way more than a store.
>>530367619Sounds like a lot of fiddling with settings to get it just right.
>>530368356This general has the widest IQ distribution of regular users, however the lower-IQs' post frequency may be significantly higher, skewing your impression.
>>530366584Looks like it's back up now.
>>530367106Duserpentis dev? Yeah I played your game and I did like the concept alot, I gave you feedback you can search for "duserpentis" in the archives and you'll find it probably. The feedback mostly boils down to the graphics are confusing and the rotation puzzles are even more confusing, I didn't know where it was gonna rotate. So that's all. I did beat the demo though.
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I looked at the discord for the first time in years. Jesus christ it's just as bad as the thread. Bunch of retards spamming it with zero self-awareness. Like what the fuck is this even.
>>530328051>"good games always win" circle logicer accidentally made a graph fucking his circle logic trapsyou only need to go see what games gain massive visibility to invalidate this graph. i personally have made multiple games that reached massive visibility while in no way being something anyone could consider maxed out quality... in fact from experience, and many others will attest to the same phenomena, my throwaway low effort shitpost projects have a better winrate on visibility.
>>530345243I'm here maggot and have been posting demoralization posts for the past half a year. Had to rush the game because I was busy with school, hence why there were lot of debug features. Should I avatarfag every time I post some demoralization post about nobody here ever going to be making it to not be called whodev?
>>530369430Was it you? Stop being retarded in the discord. The thread is for that.
>530352412
Why so toxic over a trip? No one is forcing ya to even acknowledge me. This attitude is self harming, especially for a dev. How can anyone be so mad over a trip? Can someone explain please? If no one is meant to use a trip then the option would never have existed.
>>530367223>Day 38>learned what a tick is
I will destroy the inner circle.
>>530353358Based, I'm grabbing my nuts right now.
>>530353358>realize I still have this window open>update the page if it's already archived>last post brings me to this post>sees a lot of text>it's reading time>immediately grab my balls to enjoy reading>is about grabbing the balls>it has the most serious tone holy shitfucking kek anon I can't stop laughing at this random comment lmao