Repent Sinner Edition

Previously on /coopg/ : >>530692306

>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
Steam Hotfix 6.6.4 - 30th of June
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/steam-hotfix-6-6-4-30th-of-june/110130

Darktide:
Free Update: Battle for Tertium - Out Now! (Patch Notes)
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-battle-for-tertium-out-now-patch-notes/109117
Hotfix #72 (1.8.4) - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-72-1-8-4-patch-notes/110661

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
Firebreak
Wildgate
and others

>Future games
Killing Floor 3 - delayed
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1430190/view/499441143215293470
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Jump Ship - TBA Demo Out

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

>28 people playing FBC Firebreak right now

>>530821714
but we have to keep it in the OP you know, just in case one of them would want to talk about this game!

>>530821714
my sides

Do you think fatshark is trying to push the game in a role-based direction?
I wonder what they'll do with the remaining 3 human classes. Make them all invulnerable tanks? Or let them focus more on damage at the cost of survivability?

>>530822194
>Do you think fatshark is trying to push the game in a role-based direction?
No, Arbites does literally everything

This is going to become the new meta game of
/coopg/ I can feel it

>2 weeks until KF3 release
>They planned another beta so people can see the new changes
>No actual date for the new beta
C'mon m8

>>530822194
they're going to make everything like rework ogryn
easy toughness generation and screen wiping crowd control coming soon to everyone else

>>530822194
They'll jsut make them tanky with a focus on aoe damage and stagger and singletarget damage, just like arbites
People have proven time and time again that they'll whine and screech if they get anything less. They're also currently whining that arbites is now underpowered after the bleed has been changed. Genuinely hopeless community, and Fatshark makes the mistake of listening

>>530821106 (OP)
I don't get it

>>530822459
>They're also currently whining that arbites is now underpowered
who is "they"? forumfags? discord transvestites?

>>530822130
it's kept in out of sheer laziness, same reason wildgate is still in despite being a PvP team arena deathmatch

>>530822560
big man protecc lil uns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3pmQonrS9Y

>>530822697
desu one of the discord autist will sperg out if you dare remove ONE GAME from the list. Happens everytime.

get rid of the reddit crafting system NOW

>>530822459
>everyone i try to get into this game parroting muh lack of progression
>everyone i try to get into this game parroting muh (pre-modern) gearing
>everyone i try to get into this game whining about the game difficulty
>everyone i try to get into this game is an expert at whining about this game that they have <10 hours in
their biggest problem is how vocal they are despite being fucking tourists

>>530822769
Amazing, the guy just block the punch and avoid escalating violence, ty

wich game would you remove from the OP (seriously?)

>>530822626
multiple people in this thread have been non stop whinging about the bleed change saying the dog is not worth taking now lol.
You can also go anywhere, I don't use forums or reddit but I checked the steam comments sometimes to see if the patch has any new glaring issues and it's always full of shit like this, copypasted from a steam comment:
>Arbites would not have been strong enough to replace other professions in 40 tier havoc after fixing Skyhawk. The recent strength is entirely due to the bleed bug, but why remove the extra ranged bleed for dogs when Arbites were already weak after fixing the bug.
>Do you guys actually play your own game?
PS: You would think this is a chink, but the profile says britain

>>530823346
darktide

>>530823346
firebreak for being dead on arrival

>>530823406
>PS: You would think this is a chink, but the profile says britain
I also justt checked his playtime and he has 39 hours in Darktide lmao. >>530822885 you are truly spot on, 39 hour nigger whining that arbites is underpowered for Havoc, in earnest.

>>530823346
all of them except darktide

>>530823406
people do be loud and retarded, this is true

>>530823346
>Remnant 2
>The Outlast Trials
>The Forever Winter
>Wildgate
>NMRH2
>Barotrauma
>Ready or Not
games that will never ever be discussed here

>>530823558
ive had 3 people do this to me man
>know nothing about gameplay mechanics
>know nothing about build synergies
>dont even have a combat loop or any knowledge of positioning
>somehow fully capable of parroting an opinion they heard on the negative reviews

>>530823790
I sometime see people talking about barotrauma, forever winter and remnant 2. The rest can go

>>530823889
Barotrauma just does seem like the kind of game that belongs here. It's a SS13 style fuck around game rather than an actual coop matchmaking thing

>>530823790
>NMRH2
Big update soon, retard

>>530823790
Outlast was being talked about shut up retard

>>530822398
Why do you keep up with that shitshow dude? Even they can tell it’s about to be a massive flop and are dragging their feet.

>>530824830
normies are hyped for it. It's gonna sell, just wait and see.

>>530823790
People have brought up Forever Winter from time to time. Mostly to shit on it and meme about le groid devs.

>>530824350
>>530824670
i look forward seeing 1.5 posts about it fellas
>>530825020
you forgot to call me retard

>>530824830
coping that they'll fix at least some things on launch and other stuff for post-launch

just leave the op as is as long as it’s called coopg it should stay there

>>530823406
>the dog is not worth taking now
this is correct, please explain how you think that translates to anyone here saying that arbites is underpowered

>>530824830
The new artstyle kinda grew on me. Plus, even if they fuck up everything else, they won't fuck up the soundtrack.

Remember, do not to reply to bait.

>>530823406
Lone Wolf is just better than the dog now.
The bleed thing was absolutely broken, yes. But the dog is not great at all, just like before the patches. A fun novelty and can save your ass in a pinch, but that's about it.

I didn't realize suppression shield blocks crusher overheads

>redditors prefering the crafting system to looting the gear unironically use the term "normie"

>>530826008
cool, now go back

reminder: the dog bleed nerf went well above and beyond what it needed to be because fatshark shat the fix out as quick as possible hoping to squash any and all complaints as completely as possible so they can get back to doing fucking nothing for a month

currently if your dog pounces anything other than a human sized enemy literally NOTHING gets affected by the bleed other than that enemy, captains take no bleed from the dog at ANY time even if the shield is down, if you think that is the intended behavior of that node I recommend you sodomize yourself

>>530826119
If every redditor itt went back the thread would die

>>530822390
idk anon, it's a top down shooter and early access too

>>530825781
Not be default, right? It's the perfect block thing.

>>530826496
no, by default

>>530826008
>one diceroll per mission is "looting the gear"
tying rewards to playing the game and using the thing you want to learn blessings for is a good incentive to play the game and try new systems
even if some weapons are fucking atrocious in feel

>>530826571
that doesn't sound right. But I've never tested it.

>>530826571
>>530826496
>>530826679
i feel like anon is onto something here
you get like this heavy slow recoil but even when it does damage it reduces what you receive by alot
well at least i feel like thats what happens when im last-ditch blocking vs poxbursters

>>530826669
>one diceroll per mission is "looting the gear"
then change it, just copy the fucking vermintide system. Why are modern devs so retarded

>>530826978
>Why are modern devs so retarded
i have no idea, but what we have right now is still much more sensible than whatever we had before

Is this good?
Mace&shield with opportunist

Thoughts? Worth sploorging on?

>>530829102
Sure. I'm getting it mostly for the armored trousers.

>>530829102
why do you care what your character's clothes look like when you already made it look like that

>>530829102
none of them are worth almost the same cost as a whole extra playable character

I wish fatshark just used darktide to milk the redditors buying every sloppy outfit they release and put all the resources into vermintide.
40k fans are literal subhumans

>>530829102
Why are you black?

>>530829553
Got left too long in the oven

>>530829553
Why are you gay?

>>530829102
all the cloth has physics on it so you'll look cool when running around

>>530829949
Bussy too good

>>530827714
yeah it's fine
some prefer sword&shield instead of mace but mace is good too
personally i like the mace a bit more just because the dismounted imperial knights from medieval 2 use a mace and shield and the empire is kind of like the hre
btw opportunist increases the stagger power of all attacks and pushes against attacking enemies, not just pushes

>LOOK GUUUYYZZ I JUST BOUGHTED THE NEW SLOP XDDD

Martyrdom Zealot is so fucking good. How many wounds should I be aiming for total?

>Wait for the shop slow rotation
>It's shit again
>Don't buy
Fatshark really hate make money lol

>>530830765
"boughted"

>>530831195
newfag

>Check skins in wiki
>I only like a helmet
>Probably take a year until I see that item in shop
wew lad

>>530831539
by the time the one item you want comes again, fatshark will have done another 500 aquila event! you could get it for free! so exciting!

>>530829102
I think im gonna get it. It doesn't look good on you though

>>530831539
>>530831757
I'd unironically pig out for this slop if it was available right now.
By the time it comes around again I'll probably be pausing this game and miss out on it, happened with every item I'd consider getting so far. Haven't spend a dime on aquilas, cool buisness strategy fatshark.

>>530830842
Yes.

The Execution Order bug is really extreme.
I just ended an Auric High Intensity Rolling Steel mission with 7 stacks of Keeping Protocol.

why doesn't fatshark want my money? are they dumb? stupid?

>>530830842
i prefer 6 but you can go 7 if you want

>>530832372
>worked flawlessly on launch
>doesnt work since the first hotfix
>dont worry the dogs got nerfed ASAP though

>>530832610
they made bank on arbi. what are you talking about?

>>530831195
A lot of "french" people dwell here. The resident pajeet is probably one

>>530827714
ALWAYS take comrad in arm it gives good DR to one ally and 10% power to you meaning more dmg and stagger

>>530829102
>Chained manacles on wrists

>>530832610
no, it's the players who are stupid, too many options in the store would confuse them so we need to keep the menus concise and limited

>>530832201
Yeah, people will ditch the game and go play something else when get bored of waiting for specific skins and new content if fatshark keep this idea of marketing without changes.

>>530826496
idk maybe it's shield's blessing, I forgot about it

>>530832372
I guess Forceful is now the uncontested memeta build until the swedoids get back from their vacations

>>530832201
same here. There's a psyker outfit I'd buy if it was available. But it's not, so no money for fatshark.

>>530832610
They want the whale money. The mindless obsessive purchasing of everything that comes out of the shop every rotation. The pittance of your pity purchases are nothing compared to the great and terrible hunger of a great whale

>>530833568
As long as the wallhack and CDR parts of the keystone are working it will remain good.

>>530833008
Arbi is FOTM and will dry when cosplay judge dreed don't be funny anymore

>>530833995
>Arbi is FOTM
fatshark still made their money tho. It's not like people are getting refunds once the FOTM is over.

>>530829329
Yeah, I guess the hair looks a bit off. Gave her white straight hair for a proper SoB look. How about now?

chat is this real? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY_JzB0WxSA&ab_channel=DawnofWar

do you think it will have coop?

>>530834329
>Sam Jackson in drag
Yeah, you nailed it.

>>530834329
Looks exactly like the Sisters from the new releases lmao

>>530833767
The icon of Execution Order that appears on your HUD when you kill a purple guy does not consistently appear.
I know the buff-bar has a bug where active buffs do not show, but that is either in effect or not. This one appears as if it will appear sometimes and then on the next kill appear, and then on the next kill it will not. That's not how the visual big presents.

If the Execution Order buff isn't triggering, then you wouldn't benefit from Malocator and Efficient Killer either.

>>530830398
I went with a mace for variety, already played a bit with a longsword. Plus it fits better with a footman vibe imo.
>>530833080
oh right, it's a coop game I forgor

>>530833282
Unironically this

>>530834383
I hope improved engine and mod support means will get a bunch of custom maps and mods like in WC3. Coop modes are a possibility.

>>530826496
Hm, I have Shield plates in tree that gives me 15% block cost reduction and Last Guard blessing on the shield, and it blocks overheads at a cost of like 2.5 stamina. No forceful.

>>530833384
Yeah this game won't survive past early access.

Yeah suppression shield blocks overheads just like that, even without any blessings or talents. But it takes a lot of stamina

Yeah

>>530825504
If you believe the dog isn't just as worthwhile as lone wolf you are one of the hyperbolic retards mentioned
The dog does not need absurd bleed damage to reach any of the utility it's good for

>>530837638
>But it takes a lot of stamina
I have seen my arbeetus restore 30% stamina instantly after unblocking

>>530838282
>the dogsplosion doesn't need to be better than 5 1500 damage grenades
>the dog doesn't need to contribute the same amount of overall damage as 10% dmg and 10% attack speed
>the dog doesn't need to validate the mandatory investment into voltaic mandibles
>the bleed node doesn't need to validate the minimum two point investment, in fact it doesn't need to do anything at all (it doesn't)
>my heckin' pupperino is so very valid for getting me out of being pounced (the easiest disabler to avoid) so he's FINE
lol

>>530838282
Why are you people still responding to that retard?

>>530821106 (OP)
>2 coop games
>one is there purely out of respect
the absolute state of cooperative games

>>530838807
>>>the dog doesn't need to contribute the same amount of overall damage as 10% dmg and 10% attack speed
It doesn't, the dogs strength is in being a fully autonomous special killer. It legitimately does not need to compete in poxwalker/shotgunner stack damage with other players or grenades. It's such a low brainpower angle I have no idea how people independently come up with it and don't realize
>oh wait, it's an unkillable special killer that I can direct and even does it by itself and makes me immune to dogs and mutants, it doesn't actually need to pull its weight with aoe damage

>>530839553
Funny how there's always a way to tell you're the Resident Pajeet.

Aliens: Fireteam Elite was a fun and enjoyable ~15 hour game

Has fagshart fixed Execution Order literally not working yet?

>530838807
>530839553
He really, really, really needs attention right now

>>530839971
idk, do you see a hotfix?

>>530839971
execution order works
keeping protocol is still fucked

>>530839971
If a teammate has execution order then you'll see the enemies that are marked for them as well but you won't get the benefits when killing them

>>530839728
I see, place never recovered after Darktide launch, explains why Helldivers have their own general

>>530839728
sounds like a resident evil meme spin off
>>530839901
how much did you pay

>>530840372
reaaaaaally trying too hard

>>530840139
Not Far Behind works.
Execution Order and it's other sub-nodes trigger only a fraction of the times it should.

>>530840426
like 20$

>bro my dog got 1 mutant out of 20
>heckin' doggo is literally goated with the sauce, goddamn automatic special killer out here

>>530838329
With one talent and one blessing you can do that all day

>>530839901
Playing it at launch was pretty fun, impossible to get anywhere at higher difficulties with randoms tho. Also due to bug got almost every weapon fully max leveled and devs let it stay that way. Never came back to DLC tho
Oh and no chat at launch was a killer, dunno if they ever added one later

>>530840995
>missiling through still staggers the shit out of things
>flying into a mutant that grabbed you still stops it
>free damage and TGH if you picked the right node
youre just wilfully ignoring all the benefits
>>530840878
oh so the inconsistency of keeping protocol is an indicator of how spotty the procs are
great
great job fatshart

>>530841334
Why do you keep engaging with the resident pajeet you fucking mongoloid

Am I a Team player or am I a Punch player?
I'm for sure not a hero.

>>530840139
I have seen keeping protocol missing completely but I figured it's the usual UI problem

>>530841610
its definitely not a ui problem
you genuinely wont get stacks except when you do
ill be 150 specs/elites in on a mission and have 9 stacks

>>530841581
Worse
You're a vermintide player when darktide exists

>this just in, man who has never touched havoc 40 in his life weighs in on arbites dog build
>"I think it's just fine, and totally competes with lone wolf," he said, stupidly, before he hit auric quickplay again

>>530842823
Tell me more about the fantasy stories in your head. Especially interested in the one where you pretend that you actually play this game you spend all day shitposting about

>530842823
You're really bad at this
You would think you would eventually get better considering how much time you spend doing this

just report him for trolling

>>530839621
>the dogs strength is in being a fully autonomous special killer.
You and your team mates do a better job of that than the dog ever will.
Go ahead ping an elite or a special and I know for a certain that your team mates will be killing that fucker before the dog even gets there.

>>530843416
>>You and your team mates do a better job of that than the dog ever will.
No shit, the dog isn't replacing a player slot so of course that's the case. I really don't get why you people don't think for 2 seconds before you proudly announce you're retarded.

>>530843134
brother you're giving him the dopamine he craves. It's best to ignore

>>530841581
you definitely are a hero
it's very useful and will help you get your dumb teammates out of trouble

>>530843416
you should be pinging crushers and maulers so people can see the overhead through the outlines
but on arbys the dog missile does a mass stagger when it smacks into crushers and maulers

>rng bad because... because I can't run with fully optimized gear like the goytuber I've just watched! It's not fair, mommy fatshark make the looting obsolete NOW!!
I fucking despise redditors

posted it again award

made the game shittier to appease normalfags again award

>>530843040
>>530843134
So true. So true.

>530845003
Bro struggling

>>530843583
>b-but it's not replacing a player
And that wasn't my point retard, my point is that the dog is fucking useless and you do a better fucking job than it ever will.
Its autonomous properties are no where fucking near worth taking and using you moron

>>530842195
>why does no one want to talk about other games in /coopg/? why do they keep making their own generals instead of talking here?

>>530845751
Simmer down retard. You're sperging out pretty bad right now

>>530845843
I say this

>>530845751
>And that wasn't my point retard, my point is that the dog is fucking useless and you do a better fucking job than it ever will.
And? It's not replacing me either. Of course I'm performing better than the dog because there can be both me and my dog in the game, it would be busted if it outperformed me.

I'm starting to think you might actually be mentally disabled

rending increases armor pen right? It doesn't actually lower the armor class as far as the game is concerned? Say if you hit 100% rending on a carapace enemy the game doesn't consider it flak at that point?

>>530846963
>100% rending
The game considers that enemy to be raped.

>>530842195
Honestly, you are right, game gives me that turbo gay vibe for some reason

>>530845751
You are hopelessly autistic

>>530841581
it's hero time. it's not mentioned in its description, but it triggers whenever people get disabled in any way, such as by an assassin or hook rat

>>530846963
Still considered carapace and still benefits from extra carapace damage

>>530845751
Your constant sperging makes it pretty obvious that you're some telopots discordtranny or something, and probably the same faggot that keeps screeching about the crafting system, but let's make this a thought exercise.
>Its autonomous properties are no where fucking near worth taking and using
It can sometimes react faster to trappers than the player reasonably can.
It makes soloing safer by virtue of invalidating hounds and helping against mutants. Yes, it's a crutch. No, you're no a flawless player that never got dogged, stop lying.
It's a homing missile that moves around corners and through shitty terrain to kill entrenched gunners and snipers in hectic situations where you might not even be able to shoot them because there's 5 bulwarks in your face. With Go Get 'Em!, its contribution to shooter sniping is relevant even in havoc.
It passively keeps almost all of your stacking mechanics at max stacks virtually all of the time. This includes execution order (if/when fatshark unfucks it), which is the best keystone, so I'm going to assume it's being taken by default.
It grants you and everyone else 20% TDR and 2% toughness per second, virtually permanently. It can also grant you 5% toughness per second a lot of the time, but I don't think keeping the dog close to you is all that good, and there's better ways of generating toughness.
As long as the edges of all coherency bubbles touch, it counts as being inside it, and the dog can create an extra bubble.

>but muh Lone Wolf
Lone Wolf is quite strong, mostly for the grenade regen, and denying that would be retarded. The strongest grenade is the shock mine, which is kind of ridiculous. In havoc 40, shock mines should in theory be stronger than whatever the dog can do, but that only matters if you need a shock mine every minute. That's the sign of a weak group.
>but muh Breaking Dissent
is an additive damage modifier, and the math doesn't math when compared to the other auras.

>>530847961
Nobody cares, retard.
You and your mutt aren't welcome in my aurics or havocs.

>>530847671
That's crazy a thing to omit from a description. What a retarded developer, my god. Nuke Shweeden asap

>>530821714
This game fascinates me in the same way Concord did. Imagine being an autistic manchild and working on a dog shit game for YEARS, and for all of your autistic hopes and expectations to be snuffed out in mere days. All that time thinking you're making something special that will captivate internet discussion for years to come. Your game's lifespan: shorter than a fly's.
I'm in their discord just to see the few remaining players chatter and fanboy over this dead game. There's a @everyone announcement every other day. I'm surprised that the devs are still working on hotfixes, patches and those novelty world-building videos with the puppets and all. It's like watching lights leave someone's eyes in real time.

>>530848237
He just destroyed you

>>530848237
But anon, I'm not joining havoc 20 games.

why can't muttmericans read? what a joke of a "nation"
crafting system in darktide is slop, this post isn't off topic

any reason to reinstall dark turd if I they don't care about
>I AM THE LEX, I AM THE LAW I AM BATMAN
?

>>530849210
faggot

Any of you ever do solo play?
I'm trying Enclavum Baross right now but the mid event is rough.

>>530849793
Play arbites even if you don't care about the voicelines

HE GOT BANNED FINALLY

>>530850053
That fast?
I doubt it. He just made a post that was too retarded even for him and deleted it before he caught a ban

>talk shit and troll all you want, it's ok
>jannies ban you 0.0002 seconds after dissing on AMERICA

>>530847382
most likely

>>530847727
thanks

>>530847550
Wtf is this…
>>530848384
Post some of their announcements kek
>image
Looks exactly like he probably smells

>>530849793
You'll probably enjoy it, it's been a while. Should feel fresh even if you don't buy dog batman. Every other mission is full police squad.

>>530850397
see
>>530850415

>>530850746
Surprisingly, they surpassed a million players. I think this game was free on gamepass, no? That's probably how that happened. I wonder how many sales they made, not counting the refunds.

>>530850397
>>530851145
Would be funny. That would teach that faggoty little bitch a lesson

>>530851810
He'll be back in 3 days sadly.

>>530851307
Using players as a metric is the latest meta in obfuscating your actual sales performance to your investors.

I've beaten Havoc 40 weeeee! (with randoms, as a vet)

janitors can't ban people

>>530852450
Jannies direct posts to mods who ban them
Might as well call the mods jannies since they take out the trash

>>530850415
Pajeet eternally BTFO lol

>>530852315
Congratulations anon. You've now beaten the game. You won. It's over now.

>>530852315
Now do true survivor with randos

>>530853251
Should I?

>>530852315
>>530853045
It wouldn't have counted with arbites or ogryn, but he did it with tbe worst class in the game

>>530853289
Definitely. It's about the greatest achievement you can earn in this game. Best to do with a group that already just plays h40 for fun, so if you're just casually playing a couple 40s with a group and figure they're decent players, ask if they want to go for true survivor.

>>530853495
is it doable with randoms? like can I get it by accident?

>>530853332
Veteran is great in h40 if you build it for gunner and disabler sniping. It's the horde clear cuckoldry that feels bad, and vet is fine even at that.

>>530853674
>can I get it by accident?
I've had a handful of h40 runs where we accidentally had no downs, but everyone already had true survivor so it made no difference. You definitely don't need a premade or constant voice comms at all, though it's obviously easier to just quickly push to talk and yell "I'm diving the ritual" before you nuke it with grenades, so the team knows not to frantically follow you in panic or whatever and then go down.

Today I learned the word "beatific"

>>530854005
Mirthful

>>530854271
Is that in the game?

>>530853921
ty I'll no sweat about it and just play H40 at my best maybe I'll get it some day

>>530853674
Yes, I got it that way.

>>530854432
It is when i'm playing it

>>530853674
if you want to increase your chances try to play the easier maps like archivum sychorax, chasm station and hab dreyko

fact: ogryn mains are gay twinks

>>530855524
>LARp the most and do that thing where they type gay In character shit
>Also typically suck
Checks out

>>530855524
'member the german ogryn?

Funny how the vibe suddenly becomes bearable as soon as one person is gone. Weird, right?

>>530856030
I remember that weird shit with the guild wars 2 general
It just takes one

I'm still here actually (idk who you guys are talking about I'm just a tourist)

>>530856252
>>530856030
My favorite general was destroyed by one hyper psycho sperg who even managed to become a janny

>>530856564
Resident Pajeet had a melty and went too far when he started to insult the United States of America.

>>530856564
Get your camera ready, tourist
*pulls out my dick*

>>530856753
That ought to teach that browngroid to not insult our ally on their own website

>>530856030
This is why bullying in real life exists. Punching spergs in the face is a human right. Being forced to interact with autistic "people" is a form of torture.

>hmm weird, since that 1 guy who has an opinion different than the echo chamber is gone, the vibe is different
Historical moment, the redditor is about to use his brain

>>530856967
Good, fuck him and his AIDs

>>530856996
Normalfags arent even trying to hide it anymore lmao, reddit might be more up your speed

>530857504
>530857215
He's real mad that janny spanked his retarded ass

>>530857504
>nooo my safechamber autism hugbox
Fuck off, sperg.

>>530857734
That's literally the reaction of this general when someone with a different opinion speaks out, too bad your subhuman father wasnt killed in the middle east defending the jewish interests

>>530857925
It's not though?

>>530857925
>>530857504
>>530857215
you spend this much time sperging out in a forum thread for a video game you don't even play because you are an utterly unbearable person who will likely never be able to befriend anyone, much less your own pathetic self

>>530857925
Nice try, thirdie. We know you can't even afford to buy arbites.

>>530857925
Uh oh... something to say about America, Pajeet?

>530857925
Notice how he dropped the playfulness and went full mask-off after we curbstomped his ass
He's mad as fuck and deserves another spanking

>>530856587
>>530856587
>one hyper psycho sperg who even managed to become a janny
/dsg/? If not, same shit happened there

>>530849793
No.
They just reworked the mission terminal and it's shittier now. Also every lobby is infested with Arbites, you're guaranteed to get at least 1 arby in your mission.
It wouldn't be as much of a problem if the class wasn't overpowered shit which just makes the game boring.

>not trying to combat the pointy, just endless ad hominem insults
Too bad normalfags arent sentient

>guys new feature is unbelievably utterly worthless
>Board takes a more moderate counterargumrnt along the lines of "it's not that bad even in a worst use case scenario"
>Pajanon has an absolute meltdown full of false flags about how this is an echo chamber because no one does his shitty build 1:1 and that somehow is a personal attack

Anons I'm tipsy verging on drunk, should I bother playing poxclick or should I just play my space autism game instead

>>530858509
He doesn't mean anything he says. He's a diaper shitting bitchtits having ass sperg who's just desperate for attention

>>530852261
To be fair 1 million players is still pretty good since all of those 1 million players have bought the game. And since the game costs 40€ on steam forme, that's roughly 40 million euros. Which isn't bad.
At least I assume that's the case. I admit that I don't know everything about Firebreak and stuff behind it.

>>530858764
They did not make 40 dollars off each gamespass player

>>530858764
Steam takes a 30% cut

HE GOT BANNED AGAIN BWAHAHAHAHA

>>530859289
LMAO
Why is it so hard for him to not be a complete fucking mongoloid?

>>530859289
Oh my God america the beautiful

>>530859665
>Why can a pajeet not shit the streets
It's in their blood

>>530859665
Brownoids can't control themselves, they're like animals, The US lives rent free in their head so they can't stop seething.

quick anons, save this image before the jannies get me

>>530859995
My dad used to walk around the house like this except he was even fatter.

>>530860089
I missed it. Was it the fat guy looking in the fridge?

ATTENTION, SCUM

THIS THREAD IS NOW MONITORED BY THE LEX. ALL BROWNOIDS MUST BE PURGED.

>>530851867
More like a couple hours at best.
>>530852450
NewGOD.

>>530860193
Nah it was just a fat pepe in undies.

Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

>>530854271
I know this because of Nurgle.
>>530855767
So true.
>>530856564
>>530856587
>>530856753
Good posts.

>>530858662
Stop drinking retard. Alcohol contains phytoestrogens which kills your sperm and gives you tits.

>>530852261
That makes sense actually.
>>530858764
I don’t think that’s how it works.

>>530860794
that's an absolute win in my book

>>530860794
Drinking and smoking raises your testosterone. Probably something to do with not being a little bitch.

>>530861120
Who's oc is left girl

>>530861351
Isn't it

>>530861496
Oh, not very oc at all

How often do havoc ranks reset?

anyone in the test for roguecore? if so how is it?

>>530862753
every havoc "season" drops you to the nearest level of 10 rounding down, so if you're at 40 or 38 you go to 30. Rewards pay out on sunday. Seasons seem to be following bigger content updates so a few months

All the shitters managed to grind out Auric by now so now maelstroms + aurics are spicy again
feels good

you know what else feels good?

Wtf happened in this thread?

fatshark bros??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdGbDr18LOU

I really wish Steam allowed you to have two screenshot buttons/combos. I want F12 and shift+F12.
Every time in these co-op games I'm running around, holding shift, want to take a screenshot BUT OOPS can't do that because I'm holding shift. So now I have to stop and try to take the shot but I missed my shot.
And I can't just change it to shift+F12 because sometimes I want to stand and take a screenshot, and in some games you skip a cutscene by pressing two keys.

>>530864403
>we don't want the UK audience

>almost midnight in yourop
Time to switch on NA east to game with the burgerbros

>>530864772
Noooo stay out of my aurics

>>530864772
I'm logging in.

>>530864908
It's too late! I'm already there!

>>530863824
>>530863862
Yes.

Why does the vet shovel have the best cleave in the game but the ogryn shovel can't cleave for shit on horizontals? It has worse stagger too on the special

>>530866520
to be fair vet shovel used to have great stagger and i think damn near no damage cleave
now its just a versatile high stagger high cleave tool
the ogryn shovel idk

Why are they like this?

>>530867025
lmao

Maybe I should take a break from Darktide en go back to the roots.

How's the necromancer? fun?easy to play?

>>530867727
She's Sienna so no to the fun but yes to the second thing

>>530867727
brain burst is as it turns out, quite strong in fantasy

Think I’m gonna take a break from DT too.
Does anyone else keep getting error 4001’s (getting DC’d at the end of a mission and losing the rewards)
Really sucks when I’m trying to level my arby. Gonna play some of the new helldivers warbond instead.

FUCKING ARBITES NIGGERS HOARDING EVERY RESOURCE SHITTING THE MISSION GODFUCKINGDAMMIT

>>530868669
YOU RUN FASTER THAN DEM!

>>530868669
shotgun go boom, deal w/ it

I'm having the stupid thing where randomly I can't turn the sound on for Darktide.

What was the fix again? It was something obvious and stupid if I remember.

>>530869964
SPEAKER SETTINGS AAAAA IT WAS ON THE WRONG SPEAKER AAAAAAA, EVERY FUCKING TIME I'M A IDIOT AND KEEP UNINSTALLING AND REINSTALLING AND VERIFYING AND I FORGET IT'S ALWAYS "LOL WE RANDOMLY SWITCHED THE SPEAKER SETTINGS WHILE YOU WERE DOING SOMETHING ELSE, KWAB".

>>530868241
>from one swedish buggy disaster to an even buggier, more untested swedish disaster

>xbox ogryn gunlugger quadruple dip the ammo box in Mortis Trials

EVERY TIME I CHECK THE MAELSTROM IT'S EXTRA POXBURSTERS OR SOMETHING STUPID. GIVE ME MOSTLY MELEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

How's this look Bros?

what the fuck

>>530872132
I'd grab canine morale.

Take a moment to appreciate a Pajeet-free /coopg/

No lame baits... it was only one brownoid after all.

>>530872132
what's your melee weapon?
idk why you still want to go for bleed, but it looks alright

>>530867837
I thought Sienna was fun…
>>530870203
Sexo with cute goofy lexo woman

>>530872379
So true!

Today was the first time I queued in to 3 other classes while playing on my arbeetus, I even got to hear a bunch new interactions, like Kerillian asking about Sire Melk's contraband and the zealot handwaving it

>>530872623
The extra damage from bleed seems to help the dog deal with enemies faster based on what I saw in the meat grinder

>>530874724
if you just want dog to kill pounced enemies you need voltaic mandibles, you don't really need bleed

>>530872093
Ammo.. Rashuns... all mine.

Alright I'm sold on the Tac Axe on Arbites. With all his damage bonuses and his own crit talents, I might actually prefer it to Zealot.

>>530874898
Fair enough.

Forgot to mention melee weapon, Arbites shock maul.

>>530874948
this but chainsword

why is it so common for dogfuckers to push bursters into teammates

>Beta starts on a sunday
are these niggas 4real?

>>530875293
Do you mean dogfuckers as in the players or the dog itself? Because yeah it's definitely an issue, I'll shove a burster and have my own fucking dog shove it back towards me.

>>530875781
>For this Multiplayer Stress test, we ask the participants not to stream or record.
hahaha

Figured id ask better players than me
Is the dog bleed worth the point investment still, or should i just use it for something else instead now?

>>530876081
"P-Please don't record us shitting the bed a second time."

Pathetic.

>>530876084
Probably not worth it for really high havoc keys, but it can still be alright for lower stuff since the bleed helps finish off specials and elites quicker so it can find a new target.

>>530876084
No part of the dog is worth it.

>>530876749
I barely visit the general anymore and even i know who you are lol
>>530876575
Yeah i figured, at least it gives me some more flexibility

>>530876084
Dunno. If it was worth it, I'd expected to have seen people post scoreboards showcasing the bleeding damage in it. I say the verdict's not out yet. I don't care to try it because my build is too comfy and it would ruin it.

I liked Killing Floor, made me sad how fucking horrible KF2 felt. I hate shitty movement speed in games, makes me feel claustrophobic

Mister E. is such a hypocritical faggot. Complains that Rumbler ruins the game but every single time he plays Ogryn, it's only Rumbler and Bully Club. Every single time. Why? You can't even lose rank from losing in H40. He's got the perfect environment to try any build and he chooses to go no. 1 meta every single time. Fucking faggot.

>>530875920
The players

>>530875179
Gross

>>530876084
The dog itself is garbage.

At least with the "bugged" bleed talent, it did damage. Now it's damage is worthless for Havocs. So if you have a dog, do not bring it into Havocs. Arbitrator is good and that isn't to say you can't beat Havocs with a dog, because Arbitrator is good, but you're gimping yourself and putting your team through unnecessary hardship for no reason.
I will kick you if you bring a dog past 20's.

>>530877005
>it's just one guy
It's literally anyone you ask who isn't a retard from here

>>530876084
Swedes are retarded so instead of giving dog bleed higher stack ceiling (like psyker shout for example can exceed soulblaze stack cap) they gave it 200% damage instead
so dog bleed is twice as strong as any other bleed (with buffs used to be 4 times stronger than regular bleed)
so if you want to use that bleed to kill bosses you can do it, but you need to make sure dog bites first before you fire your bolter or something that will start bleed

>>530875781
>>530876081
>>530876253
>one of the worst betas in recent history back in march
>stress test on a sunday, less than two weeks before launch
>dont record us this time teehee
>helldivers 2 in august on xbox
give it to me straight, how long does this game have in terms of shelf life?

>>530877795
>so dog bleed is twice as strong as any other bleed
they took that away in the hotfix, I take it it's been a minute since you played? dog bleed suddenly was benefitting from EO after a patch and their kneejerk reaction to that was to completely obliterate any bonus bleed damage the dog had and then to go even further and nerf how many targets the "pounce" could affect, in some cases reducing it to just 1

>>530877420
Agreed. For everything they got ‘right’ a thousand other things felt off. Can’t imagine what KF3 is going to be like.

>>530876084
I honestly wouldn't use the dog at all. Several of the dog talents are bugged. Those that aren't, aren't worth it. Votaic Mandibles is the only talent that is good.
It's damage is really bad and can only hit a single enemy. In Havocs, that means absolutely nothing.
>but you can disable a lone mauler in a train of 30
It's only use is getting dogs off you, but in the last few weeks, I've been hit by a dog once and even that was only because of no sound effect bug. And even then, it was immediately hit off me by my team.

>>530874659
I had 4 games in a row last night leveling my Arbys with not a single fellow Arbys player. I guess theyre all leveled up.

>>530878058
>they took that away in the hotfix
I tell you how it is
bleed used to have
200% base damage
150% eo
50% btl
25/50% dog keystone
which is how they got 450% max in their patchnotes
they took away everything but 200% base, it still has double the damage of bleed you apply with bolter or bolt pistol. Not exactly double because it scales with some of your bonuses, but it has a flat 100% slapped on top of everything.

>>530877949
>There are also a few known issues that the team is already aware of and working to resolve in our launch window (which could be post launch)
it's fucking dead on arrival lad

is outlast trials kino?

What's the arby meta for Havok?

>>530876084
no its not worth it
dog is unfortunately not worth it
t. plays dog
and the dog is shit
if i do high level content (havocs) i go lone wolf and i will kick anyone using the dog because i have experience using the dog, its really really bad and i hate how bad it is
im so salty.

>>530878752
to avoid arbys

>>530878752
Lone Wolf
Mine
Are the best starting point. Mine is so powerful that a talent to refresh it every 60 seconds, giving you basically god mode in a small area for 15 seconds to your entire team is insane.

>>530878752
Tree-wise, everything is good except Terminus Warrant. It's entirely your own skill.

the "it's just one guy saying dog sucks" retards suddenly got very quiet

>>530878752
Is EO still bugged and not working?

Then... Mine, Lone Wolf, Forceful, BTL. If EO isn't bugged, then EO over Forceful. True Grit. Rebreather for comfy if you have a spare point. If you are using Ex Shotgun sniper version, consider putting a point into Withering Fire or Ammo Belt.

>>530879447
What's the bug for EO?

>>530878752
>meta
No idea, but I'll tell you what I like and what's been working for me.
>Keystone depends on if you want to do more damage or have more CC and defenses. Both Forceful and EO are very strong options.
>For abilities, I like BTL. It's pretty versatile, has a low CD, and doesn't lock you to a spot. That said, Nuncio is also a very good option. I hate Castigator, but it's not a bad ability.
>I think LW + Mines/Nades is much better than dog, but dog isn't too bad.
>For weapons with randoms, I prefer taking maul+shield to help make offenses go smoother and provide some defense as needed. It's still a very solid damage weapon, just not as good as Bitty maul.
I'd recommend taking True Grit regardless of what others say. You often won't really need it for entire games, but mistakes do happen, especially when there's as much mass as there is in high havocs. And one person going down can really fuck things up in high havoc.

>>530879447
Oh and Castigator's is okay. I prefer BTL every 10 seconds, shorter with EO. But if you need more points, Castigator's works without any secondary points. And it's insanely powerful, especially with EO.

>>530879502
Last I heard it wasn't working correctly. As for how, I don't know. Someone posted it on the forums and one of the Community Managers replied to the thread with "We are aware it's bugged and not working" or something to that effect. Confirmation of it not working is all I needed to hear.

>>530878752
First time I beat Havoc 40 was with this build.

I was originally using the Mastiff but it really falls off hard around... 25 to 30. There's too much shit going on, too many enemies, etc. It was only disabling a single enemy out of 30+. I had every single point I could spare put into it and it just wasn't enough.

>>530880242
There is zero difference in number of enemies on havoc 21 and 40

>>530880354
That so? I don't know. I'm relatively new. Playing since before Arbitrator, but not longer than a year. In either case, dog definitely didn't seem worth it. I was able to get much higher kills without it and I felt tankier too as I could spend those extra points on survivability.

>friday, primetime
>literally zero lobbies, no one, no one gets backfilled, dead
did they fuck something up or is the game really just dead this quickly after arbys

>>530880584
Normalfags see the "fixes" to Dog as nerfs and so they quit playing.

>>530880242
>I was originally using the Mastiff but it really falls off hard around
I assume you weren't running Go Get 'Em? Because I feel like between the increased aggro range, and its targeting priority for ranged enemies (where even trash become an actual threat in Fading Light II) it's actually a pretty good node in high havoc.
I'm still conflicted about running remote detonation at all, because its damage falls off quite a bit (especially with Go Get 'Em! making it very awkward to use) and most of its utility lies in stunning bosses (mostly burgle), or just taking shock mines anyway. From my experience, for how nice shock mines ARE to have, it's rare to truly need them, and Lone Wolf doesn't seem strictly necessary when grenade pickups are good enough unless there's an immolation zealot in the team taking priority.

>>530880705
No, that's what I was using. It was okay, but it also seemed to prioritize basic ranged enemies including elite and specialist ranged enemies, so it'd waste time attacking dregs and whatnot when it could be killing the reapers and gunners pinning us. Which would just be me spamming ping all over again to force it to do something worthwhile when in reality, I could just shoot those enemies myself and kill them quicker.
Dog just feels really badly designed. I might have been able to justify using it if it's damage was really high, but even then, I don't think so.
Another thing of note was that pinging meant that my dog would then go after an enemy my team would see as "priority" and it'd die before my dog can do anything.
It's also a huge pain in the ass to ping things then attack something else when I could just kill it myself instead of pinging. Not to mention again, someone will see the glowing outline and then kill it, usually assuming it's priority for whatever reason.

>there are still retards pushing the "dog bad" meme
Never change /copeg/

>>530881682
Post your Havoc 40 clear or shut the fuck up.

>>530881784
I cleared ur're mom's Havoc and it was at least a 50 fag

>>530881159
Exactly my issue.

Dog could be okay to take along if it was powerful, because the way you control it and the way it's AI works fucking sucks. It'll constantly leap off the map and be unusable for several seconds to even longer sometimes. It'll constantly attack trash even with the node to prioritize elites and specials or ranged.
It's just not a good investment.

>>530880562
He's wrong. Hordes spawn more frequently and more elites and specials spawn at once.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375980903

>>530880242
I've been using pic related, seems okay so far but I haven't hit high havoc yet. Will see how it does when I get there I suppose. I feel like swapping a couple points just to get Targeted Brutality will probably become necessary.

>>530879502
From what i gathered, EO doesn't proc consistently, very rarely even
I went a whole mission with it and only noticed around the end i had like 12 stacks of keeping protocol, but over 300 elite kills

>>530881682
>retards, plural
oh look, he grew up

why don't the heretics just destroy or kill the medicae servitors? don't they know that doing so will help them? are they stupid?

>>530882972
why doesnt your character just stand up after he gets downed?

>>530881682
It literally is bad though...?

I'm not even sure how you can make the argument for it being good.
>damage sucks and can only target a single enemy even when fully spec'd into dog talents, it's better to just get your own damage multipliers
>but it's free and ai so it controls itself
>except it'll just sit there attacking trash half the time if you don't order it around at which point your team will zone in on whatever is marked and even then, now you're baby sitting some retard to attack shit without doing your own damage
>useless on high difficulties, even as low as Auric because it'll disable a single enemy out of dozens and if you're on havocs, it's a single enemy out of 30+ or even more and god forbid if it start only killing dregs and trash when you're in the middle of 20 ragers, or it pounces one rager and now it's doing nothing for the next 5 to 10 seconds as you try to kite and get out if it's coherency stopping any dog related talents in coherency
The only thing that would make the Dog MAYBE, JUST MAYBE worth anything, is if it had high damage. But it doesn't. And I'm not even sure that would save it. Because it's AI is so fucking shit.

Stick to low fucking difficulties with dog, where you belong.

>>530878551
Yes. Well maybe not kino but as far as horror multiplayer goes its the best

>>530882972
Do you know what a video game is

>>530882972
You know that plot and game are different, right?

>>530884715
can you tell me what makes it so good?

>>530882972
Why doesn't the Ogryn just throw the dog off himself?

>>530882972
They're already corrupting stimms, it's better they preserve the medicae and corrupt them later than destroy them outright
It's the long game

how can my character go 30 minutes without having to shit during a mission?

>>530890170
You're firmly clenched at all times down on Atoma and you're given meds specifically so Nurgle can't cause you to shit yourself to death because that's kind of his thing

>>530890170
All rejects get their assholes sewn shut as part of their prison sentence. Arbites just do it for fun.

>>530890170
The guys with IBS are in the other strike team.

why doesn't the emperor just kill all the heretics himself

>>530861351
looks like the chick from gunsmith cats

>>530891241
Because then his sons wouldn't have anyone to fight and they'd get bored

>>530891241
He's dead

>>530888685
based tzeentchian
>>530891241
he’s taking the worlds longest shit don’t interrupt him

What is your favourite veteran primary karker?

>Zealot doesn't have a single stamina, blocking or pushing node

>>530891978
revolver

>>530891241
Humans are Orks but not Green. The only real difference, the only important difference is that Orks don't lie to themselves. They enjoy the fight. Humans without a greater enemy would do nothing but kill each other and get nowhere.

>>530892047
Enjoy your recoil reduction on dodge ;)

>>530892047
That's cuz only FAGGOTS do that shit. Zealot is pure speed, only attack, never defend, if I even see you charging a heavy attack I'm putting you on a shitlist.

>>530891978
rashad bolt pistol shredders shout weapons specialist agile engagement

>>530891978
My favorite bad build that's really fun.

>>530895210
Every no-life autist I've seen in this game has been slightly better than the average shitter but significantly worse than myself.

Why's there so many DCs? It's every game.

>>530895368
Pic unrelated because I'm a thousand times better than you even while sleeping

>>530892047
Outdated design.

>got veteran up to lv8
>maining zealot at level 18
>did one ogryn mission and didnt like the blunderbuss, might give him another chance soon
>never bothered with psyker

I just dont like the veterans ult

>>530892047
Outdated design, but also, only the frontliners get blocking and pushing related talents it seems. Both Ogryn and Arbitrator get buffs for pushing and blocking enemies. They are also the only classes that get shields.
Zealot seems to be a more gung-ho centric design, benefiting you with resistances purely for offensive moves, but with limited options to help you defend in bad situations. You'll notice Arby and Ogryn get a shitload of resistances sprinkled throughout the whole tree, whereas Zealot gets like 5 in total and they're at complete opposite sides of each other.

>>530896690
don't worry, they'll rework zealot until he's just arbitrator with a power greatsword, homogeny will soon be achieved

>>530896363
Why aren't all of your classes at lvl 30 already??? Are you playing just 3 hours a day or something??

>>530896363
Every character has 3 ults
Veteran's best ultimate is a shout that staggers everything near you, refills your toughness, gives you 15 seconds of "golden toughness" (an overfill of toughness that regenerates itself quickly), and potentially also revives allies.
Executioner's Stance is boring and weak. It's pure damage and no utility. Infiltrate is Stealth and it's retarded and weak and offers nothing.
Ogryn has better weapons than the Kickback, but they're not much better. His ranged choices are infamously poor. His uncontested best is a grenade launcher, which close to trivializes the game even at the highest difficulties.

>>530821106 (OP)
Should add mycopunk and drg rogue core. Also why is wildgate on there isn't it a pvp game

DARKTIDE BORES ME

Killing Floor 3 will save this general, mark my words.

>>530899489
I watched a video comparing the KF2 gunplay to the KF3 gunplay the other day. I had no idea the game re-centered your crosshair after the recoil every time you fire. Seems disgusting.

>>530899489
Agreed, the memes and trolling will be legendary!

>>530899489
can KF3 even reach a 10k player count on steam?
keep in mind it's $40 and the devs are pretty much admitting it's early access

Did anyone got accepted into the KF3 beta?

>>530900194
$40 is a pretty low barrier to entry for an established franchise like Killing Floor I would say. Even if most of the news and hands-on testing reviewing has been negative I think it will still pull a sizable crowd in to test the waters, although it's hard to say if they'll stick around. I mean, look at Payday 3, it had all the hallmarks of a disastrous flop and still fooled a lot of people into at least trying it.

>>530891978
smoke shout mark target rashad fast laspistol
first ever build I made in this game and forever my favourite

>>530891978
For me, it's the Infantry Lasgun.

>>530891978
probably Helbore now that it doesn't suck so bad

>>530877763
I just did an H40 with no gold toughness and used a bleed dog. It did fine desu, you sick it on inconvenient targets and just kill everything else normally. Treat the dog like a bonus free thing and not your entire build.

>530877763
you havent made it past h20

I deserve a trapper gf

>>530903714
>replying to a post several hours old because they're likely not here and can call you out
based!

>>530905092
There's no reason to not reply to old posts in a general where the next and previous threads are linked. Other dude will probably eventually see it. Anyway, anybody could call him out if they think he's wrong. Maybe if you weren't a smug little faggot with no actual knowledge of the game, you could be the one to call him out.

The fact is that the anon talking about bleed dog being alright is correct. The dog is pretty good, even with minimal investment of Razor Jaw and Voltaic Mandibles. The only real opportunity cost of taking it (since talent points themselves are in abundance in Arbites's kit due to its strength and insanely good tree) is losing regenerating blitzes and the extra charge, which, while significant, doesn't mean you can't do it. It's especially doable if your other teammates are running regenerating blitzes or are psykers, in which case, you can take all the boxes and not lose out on much at all from running dog.

>>530905092
I will reply to whatever, whenever. Simple as.

>>530903714
Anything is possible. Doesn't mean it's good. Dog is shit and I will kick anyone taking it.

>>530903714
>Treat the dog like a bonus free thing
As opposed to treating lone wolf as a bonus free thing?

Dogless build pls

>>530908708
There's already a couple half decent ones posted up in the thread. But anything dogless will pretty much automatically be good by virtue of not wasting points on useless nodes that do almost nothing In High Havoc.

>>530908909
I tried doing >>530880242 but I can't seem to select the dogless talent, so I dunno how that anon managed it

>>530909156
de-select whatever dog talents u have idiot

>>530909230
I'm following it 1:1

>>530880242
>dog aura
>dogless node
what, does it even let you do that

What is the most reliable way to deal with shielded enemies in ratclick, push them?
Also man these maps are confusing af. Hogwarts one is crazy, I had no idea where to go or what was happening in the last room with ghost skeletons. Some russian guy zoomed around collecting skulls or whatever. I feel like I need to watch an encounter guide before playing, like it's an MMO raid.

>>530909583
push then click yes

>>530909338
>dog aura with LW
That's why. Take damage to staggered instead

>>530909338
Remove dog aura. It's trash.

>>530909402
no, just gameslantern because it doesnt have the filters that the tree does in-game

>>530910095
Damn nigger you truly dont have a life. I was considering doing some lone wolfing but I'm keeping the dog to spite tryhard sissies like you. Yes, in my 40s.

>>530909583
as a purg psyker how do i avoid getting 1 tapped by 10 poxwalkers who ran up from behind me while im holding left-click on a group of 10 maulers?
and dont say "just position better lawwwl" thats where my team chose to fight i had no choice :(

>>530910163
bit weird to bring up the fact that you're middle aged like it's a brag

>>530910265
statistics say you're probably killing yourself before you hit 30, it's a brag indeed

>>530910362
I'm glad you managed to get past that troubling uphill battle, it's all downhill from here!

>>530858764
>all of those 1 million players have bought the game
incorrect

>>530909583
push twice.

>can't solo damnation
is it over?

THANK YOU for saving the med pack for the valkyrie

we didn't need it

is it really wrong of the drunk priest recites a chaos god chant half drunk in rage killing heretics, but the emperor still grants his blessings anyway?

If I can't carry randoms in aurics with normal classes should I just give up and be an Arbitratorsissy or Ogrynsissy forever until they buff the others?

>>530912546
you could git gud

>>530912720
I don't really know how. I am good for 99% of the match and then my teammates will randomly fuck me over causing me to get instakilled then we wipe because they can't do anything on their own

>>530912062
If I didn't need it, you didn't need it :^)
this line has literally NEVER failed to make medkit askers seethe at me, I have used it to great effect at least ten times

>>530913313
The guy himself was at like 30%

>>530912270
No he doesn't

>try execution order
>it's literally wallhacks
jesus

>>530913313
after 3 trillion hours of auric quickplay I do not expect medkits to ever be used well, like 90% of the time it's still
>medstation right around the corner
>after people already go down
>preemptively before an event or boss and no one even uses it
>after an event in the elevator when no one is missing more than half a wound
bonus points for when the elevator leaves it behind when you actually do need it

>>530880354
Health is different though, which explains why the dog is useless, because it takes forever to kill an enemy.

How do I move the bonus toughness using HUD Tweaker? I've set the horizontal and vertical offset for the + symbol and it works perfectly fine, but when I set them for the toughness value itself, only the vertical offset works for some reason. If I open the HUD Tweaker menu while bonus toughness is active, it moves to the position that its supposed to be in, but when I gain toughness while its closed, it reverts to the default horizontal offset instead.
How do I fix this? I've tried everything I can think of and it just keeps moving back to the default horizontal position.

>>530884594
It's funny people can't accept that the dog might be kinda shit. I think the bleed shit was horribly OP and needed to be fixed but Fatshit just completely in the other direction.

Like you said, the dog might be more useful if it actually did some proper damage, but it doesn't. Imo the dog's own damage, not bleed damage, needs to be buffed by like 200-300% so it doesn't spend 3 business days killing 1 elite or special, so you can use it to quickly chain kill many elites or specials at once. Also another thing the devs need to do is to make the dog ping invisible to other players so they don't kill the enemy before the dog even gets there.

How I'd fix the trash mob problem is that either the dog disregards them or the dog doesn't even pounce them and it bites and claws at the horde mobs so it can deal with multiple enemies at once.

>Got message that previous mission's connection failed... in the middle of the next mission, during a horde
How do you even manage that, Fatshark? Everything that has to do with that session should be wiped by the next one.

>>530915370
Swegger spaghetti code, please understand.

>>530912270
He doesnt know he's doing it so it's fine
>>530913313
>>530915370
Good images

>>530912062
Hey, we all made it, didn't we?

>>530914471
you dont even need to use stims to win in auric tbqdesu
and no its not a symptom of arbites and ogryn, shit was like that even when i started playing the game with vet and got into aurics like 20 hrs in

>>530914471
I'm just hanging on the medkit, we never know when we need to use it.
Also lot of the time I'm taking damage, it's usually lot at once and I'm dead in a split second.
Like a sniper which I didn't notice or gunners.

darktide runs like shit after last patch? settings reset doesn't help, rebuilding shaders doesn't help

>>530916542
Didn't notice any difference in performance, bunch of connections issues tho

Why is everyone playing snow maps in VT? Do they have better rewards or fresh?

>>530916925
they sure are fresh since it's cold. It's because they are new-ish, newest are the skaven in elfland ones

>dogless
Grenade and smite build
>dogful
Bolter build

>>530833638
>They want the whale money.
They failed to get my money then, I was planning to buy 4 different collections (aka 16 full costumes) but have to wait months or a whole year isn't my thing lol, so good luck Fatshark with pseudo-left4dead because I'm gonna whale another games with direct sales.

>>530833638
Whales are gamblers
You are thinking of pigs

>>530917269
pull that tail and throw

>>530918316

>>530918542
Is this part of the weapon pack?

>>530918591
Kill yourself.

>>530918636
Yeah you're not getting that weapon pack, are you? Stupid rat faggot lol

>>530916925
Newish maps compared to the rest

This good?
Rapier and pistols

>>530918825
You will not have my hate.

>City planet
>Factory planet
>Death planet
>Candle planet?

>>530919147
Thank The God Emperor that we don't have this shitty little midget talent tree

Vermitide got more and better maps than Darktide though

>>530919467
Any map
Any time
1 reject or arbite can clear it with ease

>>530919147
Assassin for 15, for 25 I'd take literally either of the other two

>>530919147
assassin is better, cast away good if you use the rapier because the push attack fits neatly into your anti horde combo

>>530919147
use Assassin instead of Enhanced Power
Assassin gives the 40% bonus damage on all headshots and crits regardless of stagger count
WHC with rapier and bop is probably my favorite and most played career

>>530919759
i agree with >>530919817
i always use Cast Away with rapier, it's great for managing hordes with the push attack and i'm never out of stamina when i need to push

What blessings are you supposed to use on pickaxes?

>>530922267
the answer for any weapon that gets headtaker and slaughterer is headtaker and slaughterer

I just *like* the ogryn thing that makes everyone run when you use your ult. And immune to stun.

>>530922267
>karsolas and borovian
Headtaker and slaughterer
>branx
Headtaker and slaughterer or wrath

>play my agitator zealot
>has a hardon for the arbis
>when he gets praised by an arbi he nearly cums every time
"Thou make me blush Arbitrator!"

Is martyrdom bugged or something? Even with max missing wounds my toughness still gets oneshot in havoc by a bunch of shitty ranged enemies

Fuck this trash keystone

>>530923634
no, havok is just hard for vanilla classes

>>530923634
You don't have a lot of it so the effective amount even with the martyrdom buffs isn't going to be impressive.

>>530871690
Helldivers has its flaws, but at least I can play it without a 50/50 chance of poorly maintained servers wasting an entire mission :)
See you in /hdg/!

>>530868241
>>530923790
works on my machine. maybe save a little bit of money for a good pc?

>>530923634
You need crit martyr
Only martyr that kinda works

>>530923065
Get Stuck In is pretty great. And it's one of those nice talents that lets you buff your team as ogryn.
I do wish ogryn had a bit more of those buff allies nodes in the tree or debuff enemy nodes, I really want to use brutish strength but the brittleness it applies is only 2.5%.
So you only apply 10% on every push.

>Zealot dressed like HEYA HOYA HEYA HOYA
>Sprints ahead of the rest of the team the entire mission
>Goes down no less than 6 times
>Wipe because of him going down again to a firing squad of gunners and snipers causing psygger to waste a bubble on him
>Types in chat afterwards that he has never played with a slower team
Which one of you was this?

>fleshbag grabs me
>warp UNDERGROUND

>>530924403
Me
Fuck you

>>530924403
Why were you slow tho?

I hate that my plasma doesn't oneshot dreg gunners, why is veteran so weak

>>530924897
it does, you just have to charge it

Why we don't like Bretonnians?

>>530923790
>Helldivers has its flaws, but at least I can play it without a 50/50 chance of poorly maintained servers wasting an entire mission :)
both me and my friends have way more problems with helldivers 2. For me it crashes randomly, and for my friends they keep getting disconnected, usually towards the end of the mission. Brand new PC. Idk why darktide works so well for me and not hd2. They use the same engine after all...

>>530925289
we can't cope with the fact Ze Lady is real and gives super power to good hearted people

>>530924403
sounds like me, except i never die and don't play girl zealot

WTF I love pirate now?

>>530925998
Tranner has some competition as the most insufferable queer here

>>530910178
look behind you once in a while
pay attention to the sound alert when something tries to hit you, and immediately dodge when you hear it

>>530926068
Don't talk about by girlfriend like that.

>>530892604
Turns the assault rifle into a laser pointer as you're sliding about.

>>530925998
>Shaggy
Might have played with him. He sucked.

>>530927409
I see shaggy a lot. They go for the name because the dog looks like scooby doo

>>530925998
That's like the eighth shaggy I've see

>>530927676
Either way, he's sporting a wound curio. A sure sign of a shitter.

>>530925251
arbites don't have to charge any of their guns to oneshot gunners

>>530927748
there is a much more obvious sign right here

>>530928473
I don't watch e-celebs.
But wound curios is a sure sign that "Yes, I am a liability that you will have to scoop off the floor more than once".

>decide to play some helbore
>joing maelstrom
>it's full of swedish modifiers like can't see shit (1), can't see shit (2) and can't see shit (3)
>map is a horrendous maze with corners every 5 meters with barely any ranged opportunities
>still can't see shit even at that distance
>also lags like shit, fps counter shows 70 but it feels like 15, can't aim because of stutters
>ogryn starts throwing around boxes and drops everyone's fps to 35, game turns into slideshow at most important moments like getting assaulted by a fuckton of ragers and flamers
Nobody died but I hated every second of it

>>530928775
Buy a better computer?

>>530928775
damn
this is so sad

>>530928860
stop pretending they didn't make the game run like shit for everyone with arbites patch

>>530929024
Works on my machine.

>>530929024
Runs fine on my computer. Ogryn boxes have been slightly better than they used to be too.
But they're still stutter hogs.

>>530929024
Game has been running more or less the same since launch. Sometimes it rebuilds shaders after a patch and retards mistake it for performance getting worse

>>530929098
>>530929142
>>530929352
try something above baby difficulty before speaking

>>530929462
Try building a computer that doesn't suck before opening your diarrhea hole.

>>530929595
they fucked up performance when they first patched dog bleed
stop pretending to be retarded
1. trolling outside /b/ is against the rules
2. pretending to be retarded is not trolling

>>530929686
>2. pretending to be retarded is not trolling
Then why are you posting? Are you retarded?

Thinking bout ammo and rations... all mine

>>530930005
your greed sickens me

>>530930005
Just taking a bite...

OM NOM NOM

Pajeet Status?

>>530929024
Lol. You don't have the arbites?
Are you poor or something?

>>530929024
My game runs mostly fine but when there's 4 arbys in a team all with dogs it makes my FPS tank. It's not even line of sight based because just me being near them makes my game into a slide show.
And it only gets better if I run away from my team, there's certainly some sort of swedish code fuckery going on.

>>530925998
>insufferable furfag also plays shit games
what a surprise
no wonder he wants games destroyed

>hate pig captcha
lol

>>530931471
forgot to get the image and now i look like a fool

>>530931635
haha, dummy

Why is this game so unstable at the moment. Crashes and general network fuckery, did it snow in summer?

>>530931684
Could be server problems.
Also Fatshark did try to recently adds some FSR 3.1.2 thing into the game, but in the latest patch #72 they took it out for some reason.
Their words on the forum is just
>"Rolled back to FSR version 3.1.2. This change is made to ensure the best overall experience for players, while maintaining support for key features like FSR 4 and others. We’re actively working on updating to a newer version in the future and will reintroduce newer improvements when ready."

>>530931016
It's not dogs that tank fps it's dog bleed
Which is weird because when they nerfed the number of targets for bleed it somehow got worse

>>530926068
>>530927409
>>530931471
>>530928473
That's it, buddy. You're on my list. Hope it was worth it. If you get banned, that's on you. Disgusting insane behaviour.

>>530933241
M

>>530932541
The weird thing is that, the bleed isn't the thing that makes my game lag at all or the remote activations.
But if there was an option in the settings where I can turn bleeding effects off I could try seeing if that helps my FPS to not drop like a meteor.
Not sure if one exists since I've trawled through the options quite few times to optimize my game performance.

>>530933241
Thor, nobody here gives a shit about your "ban list".
Now fuck off and finish your game you Yanderev-dev wannabe.

>>530933559
>>530933406
You can eat my ass. My entire ass. I'll have you know, I worked at Blizzard. And went to Hackercon.

See; I opened up paint and you can see my genius.

>>530934202
Asmongold has opened paint first and did it better

>>530925289
>literal magic meat shields for knife-ears
>pretty much dont exist in AoS then again neither do tomb kings
lmao why indeed
at least the 40k version of them are big fucking mechs

we all know this is a scab/rat click general, but your thoughts on other coop games like DRG, l4d, etc.?

>>530935191
Old and busted

no fantasea allowed

>>530935191
They have sovl, which is the most important quality for coop to be played and remembered for long. But they don't get constant updates anymore and that hurts discussion and meme production.
I've played a ton of L4Ds, but didn't get to much into DRG, because my friend group kept dropping it

I finally heard the uhhh my beloved line about xenos getting mixed up in this same conflict.
And Cadian poetry, hadn't heard that one.

>>530935481
Reproducing copyrighted content? 10 solar cycles iso cube.

>>530935191
>DRG
Good silly fun with friends. Regular highest difficulty content is challenging, but the optional modifier to bug speed is kind of bullshit, and the rest isn't really engaging enough. The gacha loot system kinda sucks because some weapons need specific overclocks to really become viable (scout's plasma gun is dogshit without venting), others have overclocks that make the gun worse (sludge pump is better with only stable overclocks). Lots of unrealized potential with player builds, no overclocks for shit like armor, grenades, etc. that would've been really fun, not enough depth overall. Devs seem to have abandoned working on it, in favor of shitting out tabletop content and working on rogue core or whatever, when they should've instead added more actual content to DRG first.
Plays well with randos, most players are actually quite chill and friendly, but being a team game, it's really felt when someone is a tard and doesn't (know how to) use half their kit.
Somehow ended up playing it for over 900 hours.

>L4D
Kind of defined an entire genre and is still one of the best. Characters and lore have unexpected depth to them, if you care about that. Gameplay is very basic in a good way, because most of your video game skill (short of map and other meta knowledge) directly translates over to L4D, so anyone can pick it up and play it casually. Difficulty can be a bit all over the place with map design, ranging from so easy that it's free, to sweaty panic screaming in mic. Excellent co-op game.
Avoid the PVP. As with many Valve games, both L4D 1&2 were eventually, repeatedly, heavily discounted, and because they also run on potatoes, this resulted in a massive influx of thirdies. The versus scene was practically dead within a year after that, because every lobby was full of thirdies who would either cheat or grief you for not speaking in grunts and runes.

Is the revolver considered good in havoc? It takes like three headshots to kill a buffed gunner

copeg was wrong, the dog is actually really good

>>530936741
Lol nope

>>530937463
that one retarded brownoid sperg does not represent anyone here

How can you make non-chorus zealot work in h40? FotF and zealot weapons seems so outclassed now.

>>530937463
The dog is just okay because Arbitrator is good. It's not shit because of the nerfs, it's shit because it's AI is crap and the way it behaves leaves a lot to be desired. Nothing it does is worth much on High Havoc.

>>530937708
The biggest issue for me with the dog is the pounce ability.
Like I get it, it's meant to be used against high priority targets like trappers, flamers, snipers, etc.
But the problem is that when you ping the enemy to be killed, it sometimes takes a small while before your dog reacts and starts to run after them. And the 2nd problem is that your team mates can see the dog ping as well, so 9/10 your team mates kill the enemy before your dog even gets there.

At least that is my experience with it after having played with arbites and using the dog.

I keep hearing "drudge" that mutie

>>530938064
now you know what it's like to play psyker with brain burst

>>530938282
Oh I know, I've had that happen to me as well when I play psyker.
When I play as another class I try not to kill the brainburst targets when I see them, but I still accidentaly kill them due to reflex.

>Arbitratorsissy stops mid combat to type in text chat
>Begs me to stop marking targets because then he can't send his dog after them
>Mark assassination target
>Stops to complain in text chat that he now can't send his dog after the boss
Who else here /devilish/?

>>530938282
>>530938432
unironically because of this I stopped using brain burst normally
instead I rely on the % chance per hit to trigger brain burst, and use a high torrent weapon

>>530938064
You're also pointing at an enemy and doing like a three step process instead of just doming the cunt with a bolt pistol that your already aimed at.

>>530938497
Fartshart is retarded.

>>530938282
>>530938630
This stops being an issue with empowered psionics and the brain burst node that makes it go faster after ability use.
If you want to have a sperg-out over EP or "wasting a point", be my guest, but the issue is definitely solvable, and allies wasting ammo on my BB targets happens rarely because they simply don't react fast enough.

I have to admit
I did not use dog pinging until just before the bleed patch
I just shot distant enemies with my shotgun

>>530937708
Exactly this.

The dog is garbage. And the only way the dog might be good, is if the damage made it worthwhile IF they don't intend on fixing it's AI. Then all dog damage nodes should be multiplied, because otherwise it's just trash.

>>530939287
They'd have to make the dog scale with difficulty or something, because just giving the dog bigger numbers would make it even more broken in lower difficulties. It is currently incredibly overpowered in malice, because there simply isn't enough enemy density. 3-4 dogs basically solo all of the specials that lower difficulties throw at you already.

More Like UberSHITE 5 am I right

>>530938064
>>530937708
>>530939287
I think the idea was to have this passive helper companion with you -- the issue is that the dogs AI is just garbage. So you take the two nodes to prioritize enemies, but they come with their own issues;
>1. Dog can only kill one enemy and it's damage isn't good enough to really make it worthwhile to take into Havoc because while it's wasting time killing a single mauler or rager or whatever, you've been attacked by another 30. Having one not there means absolutely nothing.
>2. Dog prioritize nodes are shit. The ranged one also makes it target trash dreg shooters, not specialists or elites, just trash. And again, it's only killing one out of the 20 gunners. And the other one has such a short range, a trapper can be right on top of you before it acts.
>3. Dog pinging is incredibly slow. Why ping something your team will immediately prioritize and kill when you can just kill it yourself let alone if you do, do that, your team will kill it anyway and your dog will just pounce at nothing or run back at you wasting your time.
>4. Dog pounce is incredibly inaccurate and it'll often pounce nothing or fly off the map and it'll be gone for a solid 10 seconds sometimes.
I mean - there is more, but dog really isn't worth it.

>dog is bad because it doesn't do as much damage as a boss-specced bolter

Campaign missions ruined quickplay

>>530933442
there is a mod but I never disabled bleed because it never tanked my fps before

>>530940103
Why would you use quickplay? It's only for Maelstroms and event missions once you have optimized your build.

>>530939880
Dog applies 8 bleed stacks to bosses which for some reason does more damage than 16 bleed stacks from any other class. It does about 1.7k damage with one pounce to a beast of nurgle which isn't that bad if you consider that it's completely passive damage and you can still shoot a bolter while your dog attacks.

>>530939880
Dog is bad because the damage isn't enough and AI is pure fucking jank, like people accurately predicted before arbites dropped.
The dog being able to stop mutants and kick hounds off you is pointless. Genuinely just get better at the fucking game and learn to dodge/push dogs mid-air.

I'm convinced every dog hater was carried through H40.

>>530940630
They were

>>530940536
>The dog being able to stop mutants and kick hounds off you is pointless
I disagree
It encourages dogshit plays and behaviour, I've regularly seen arbiters run off ahead from the group not caring about disablers because the dog will save them

>>530940630
Cute of you to assume they even made it past the havoc 20 trench.

>>530940462
That's probably because the dog has an innate +200% damage bonus on it.
One anon pointed out that is the only reason and way the dog could have +450% damage like Fatshark said in the patch notes.
This shit is so fucked and janky that it is no wonder that half the shit is broken or just don't plain work at all.

>>530939880
No you fucking brainlet retard. It's bad because it's pure jank and offers you absolutely nothing on higher difficulty even with fully spec'd into it. There are too many enemies for it to mean anything and the upsides of no dog are ten thousand times better.

>>530940710
>It encourages dogshit plays and behaviour
And that is not a good thing.
Unironically I think Fatshark should just disable that shit in aurics for the dog completely.
So if you do get rammed by a mutant or pounced by a pox hound, you suffer the consequences of your shit skills.

>>530940773
When my dog pounces on a poxwalker it deletes the entire horde with its massive bleed aoe. I still end up outdamaging purge staff psykers so can you stop sperging out already? You can't afford the class anyway so it shouldn't matter to you.

>>530940462
>>530940536
>>530940773
You don't realize it's Pajeet on ban evasion? Don't recognise his style?

>>530940773
>the upsides of no dog are ten thousand times better.
You get to use your grenades more.
That is it.
Dog builds get more TDR and give it to the entire team, the +10% damage is additive and thus worthless in a skill tree that already has over +50%, and the attack speed doesn't compensate for losing the dog.
You only get more blitzes.

Shock mines are overpowered and impact nades are quite good thoughbeit.

>>530940773
Dog build is basically brainburst psyker with far better brain burst, sustain, ranged weapons and melee. Just because no dog is better doesnt mean its bad.

>>530940773
dog still outputs damage equivalent to like half a player which is 10x better than some extra stun mines

To be honest the dog for me has mostly saved me from that one random enemy chaff unit that I swear spawns behind you with intent to slap you the second your toughness drops below 100%

>>530940937
>bleed aoe
huh?

>>530941570
The dog explosion and the leap don't apply bleed anymore but when the dog lands on an enemy and starts mauling them it'll apply an aoe bleed around that enemy.

>>530924403
He must be playing with a lovesense that goes off every time he's downed

>>530941934
why would it work like that

>dog explosion is trash
>dog is pure jank
>dog passive coherency and dog pounce giving party wide TDR and Toughness Regen is good though
Man... I want to like Dog, but holy fuck it is so fucking jank and shit. I feel like I could ignore it's jank if it just did good damage, but even then... like one enemy out of a dozen if killed. Which is worthless even as low as Auric.

>>530940710
They don't stop caring about disablers because of the dog, they never cared to begin with
They run ahead because they are malice shitters who got free pass in aurics because of overpowered class
Removing the dog doesn't change that, dogless shitters behave exactly the same

>>530942094
just grab mines and ignore the ping

>>530941934
It does not. It's just that the pounce has a large hitbox. It's not some kind of constant AOE. The hitbox isn't THAT large though. And using it's justification as "dude it kills hordes" is hilariously stupid. You can look at hordes and they die. Elites and specials mixed in is the issue, which your dog can only kill a single one.

It's not more than 16 stacks

>>530942189
I guess. But it's fucking annoying that it's so jank and that half of my dog related stuff is so bad. Like what's the point if I'm not utilizing it? It just feels so poorly done.

>>530942342
>what's the point if I'm not utilizing it?
The point is that it plays the game for malice players.

I still like and use the dog in maelstroms and havoc, but it's clearly designed around malice.

>>530942094
what makes you say it's jank? It does exactly what I tell him to. He's fast and never gets stuck.

Stop taking elite/ranged targets keystone on dog
That is your problem
You waste a point and make dog retarded

>>530942342
I think the best way to fix the dog are as follows
>tweak its AI so that it innately prioritizes going after specials or elites on its own without the need of Unleashed Brutality.
>Buff the dog's innate mauling damage, so it doesn't spend 10 seconds killing a mauler without voltaic mandibles and razorjaw.
>Increase the dog's movement speed and make it zip around if you ping something so it can get there on a timely manner.
>And then finally MAKE THE DOG PING INVISIBLE TO OTHER TEAM MATES. This last one especially, Fatshark please.
After that I could say that the dog is very good and comparable to Lone Wolf as a talent node. Because currently the LW talent is just busted.
You get an +1 charge on blitz and you get demo stockpile for free on top.
And this shit is fucking disgusting with the arbites grenade, like forget the voltaic mine, the arby grenade is a fucking impact grenade with a decent blast radius that does like 1500 damage and due to the LW node you get fucking 5 of them and they keep regening for you as well.
Did nobody at the studio think about this shit?

>>530943169
>Increase the dog's movement speed
dude it's already going mach 5...

>>530943274
It's not, I've seen it and paid attention to it during games.
It's not fast enough.

>>530943163
This

>>530943137
NTA but the dog is pretty jank. There are times where it gets stuck doing nothing for several seconds because its pathing bugs out, it can and will jump the pounce (into the nearest drop), pounce targeting in general is really weird and inconsistent, and if it's fucked off doing god knows what, it won't respond for a good 3+ seconds.
Also your allies will more likely just kill whatever you ping unless they're currently looking in the opposite direction, so it's only useful for shit like trappers or whatever.

bros dog is fucking TRASH... better stay out of my havocs or else....

>>530943397
it's super fast. You probably have a bad habit of sending it from one side of the map to the other.

>>530943429
>jump the pounce
miss the pounce* sorry I'm a little retarded, as if using the dog didn't give it away already.

>>530943535
Still not joining your havoc 20s

>>530943137
A multitude of reasons. If I ping something, it takes ages to get there. Sure, I can ping and look away, but at the same time, I could have just shot it.
The other issue is that if I ping it, other players home in on it and then my dog runs off to try and kill something, then it dies and it runs back and does absolutely nothing that entire time.
The next issue is that if it leaps, it can often leap off cliffs or outside of the map, this takes several seconds to over a dozen seconds at times for it to appear back at my side.
Then we have things like "Go Get 'Em" and "Unleashed Brutality" which are supposed to change the way the dog acts, allowing you to choose it's enemies so you don't have to ping in return for automation. In reality, "Go Get 'Em" will cause it to also attack Dreg shooters, literal trash horde enemies instead of Elite and Specialist Gunners. Wasting it's time killing garbage and doing nothing. While "Unleashed Brutality" has almost no range and a trapper can be on top of you, already firing before it will trigger and attack it. Making it a worthless talent.
Lastly, it can outright just get stuck and break for several seconds, not triggering anything unless you ping, but that then goes back to other issues.

And before someone has a meltdown, I still use the Dog. Because I want to play the unique pet class. But the dog really is BAD.
On Havocs, I mostly only use it for Canine Morale and Part of the Squad. That's basically it.

>Saltzpyre and Necromancer players gg the level by themselves, collecting all the books
>I am a Human Battering Ram, charging ogre over and over
>half the stats and no green circles
feels bad man, now I get why there is no stats in Darktide

>>530943169
>tweak its AI so that it innately prioritizes going after specials or elites on its own without the need of Unleashed Brutality.
It already does that
>Buff the dog's innate mauling damage, so it doesn't spend 10 seconds killing a mauler without voltaic mandibles and razorjaw.
It already outdamages my teammates, how about no
>Increase the dog's movement speed and make it zip around if you ping something so it can get there on a timely manner
How about no
>And then finally MAKE THE DOG PING INVISIBLE TO OTHER TEAM MATES. This last one especially, Fatshark please
This is more of a player issue. Seeing other arbites ping helps me pick a different target for my dog. But my retarded teammates just treat it as invitation to killsteal. Still I'd rather keep it the way it is, maybe implement different colors for different players. Teammates would find another way to grief me anyway, and the way it works will make it annoying if everyone could see normal ping blink before dog ping is applied
What dog really needs is for swedes to fix their math and make it do 100% damage and bot 200%. If they want bleed to be stronger it should apply more stacks and have higher stack ceiling, not retarded +100% modifier slapped on top.
If I see a +25% damage modifier in the tree it should be +25%, not +12.5% because retarded swedes made a 200% baseline.
But this problem is not exclusive to dog or arbites, this entire game is like that.

>>530944023
>It already outdamages my teammates, how about no
Stopped reading there. Stop trying to comment on the game as a Malice player.

>>530944078
NTA but it does that. You're just as retarded as you are scoreboard obsessed.
Hop into the psykhanium, command your dog to attack something, and do nothing yourself. Even Power DI will still flag it as dealing melee damage. Whatever the companion damage number reads, the dog likely deals at least twice as much damage, potentially more with DoT which is also attributed to you as the player.
If my dog deals an effective total of 200-300k in a maelstrom game, that's more than some of my teammates do, except the dog actually helps me against disablers unlike the drooling, floor hugging smigger.

>>530944078
>waaaaah my paypig overpowered class is not overpowered enough
git gud or something
if you want dog to kill shit you take voltaic mandibles, deal with it

>>530943774
I find it strange how difference our experiences are. In my opinion the dog is lightning fast, constantly saves teammates from dogs and mutants, and casually mauls enemies every few seconds. It's too good to give up.

At least we can all agree: a cybercat would be much better than a cyberdog.

>>530944023
Retard.

>>530944023
Genius.

>>530944023
Retard

>>530944023
Lost Child.

>>530944613
Because you ignored targeting keystones like a sane person and your dog follows you around, kills grunts behind your back, is always prepared to lunge at a mutant before it even grabbed you and breaks lines of maulers which is sometimes annoying if you're on vet or psyker and want them lined up. You probably also stay in coherency so it helps your teammates as well.
They copied a build from gameslantern and they all have a keystone that makes the dog fuck off somewhere, and if they are extra stupid (which is very likely) they copied one of the top 2 builds on the website and neither has voltaic mandibles.
These are also the teammates you get.

>>530944023
smart fella

there's just no outdamaging these fucking arbites. every game, they could be as dumb as rocks and still do absurd damage and topscore

>>530945480
No, you fucking idiot. I specifically called out those Dog Keystones as garbage and not worth picking.

>>530944023
simple fellow

>>530944023
fart smella

>>530928775
just stop playing quickplay. It's bad enough most of the mods are shit and just make it so you can't see, but now there are also the story missions.
latest patch was a nerf to quickplay bonuses because now you can't play it.

>>530945616
Have you ever considered you're shit?

>>530945480
Except that anon literally did call those talent bad. And considering he said, "I still play dog" then you can easily assume he didn't take those talents.

>>530900194
>can KF3 even reach a 10k player count on steam?
On release? Definitely. People are starving for a new FOTM shooter.

>>530945765
No, since if there's no arbites I'm top dmg easily.

>>530945921
I have no problem out damaging them, as Ogryn.

When the hell is H40 meat grinder?

>>530945760
>just stop playing quickplay
great idea!
however...
fatshark, in their infinite wisdom, fucked up the matchmaking so that Campaign Missions(TM) get priority from QP, meaning my carefully selected High Intensity Shock Troop Gauntlet missions don't fucking get any fucking players fuck.

IT DOESNT' WERK

>>530946180
>She's not playing MALEstroms.

>>530946180
STANDING HERE
I REALIZE
THE MATCHMAKING
SUCKS DONKEY ASS

>>530945760
Pretty sure you can't get into maelstrom from quickplay anymore

>>530946180
Works on my machine.

>>530946093
a mod does it

>>530945765
Arbites is broken bro, and they made it broken so it would sell.
you're shit and retarded if you don't see that

>>530946093
Cyber hog mod when

>>530946307
>meal storm
>ventilation purge
>pox gas
>some enemies are green and ignore stagger
not fun.

"Mostly Melee Scab Only No Ammo" is autoclick. And so is I-II monster spam. But there are so many cancerous and boring modifiers i'd rather do histg.

>>530946342
Post the mod or you're a faggot

>>530946338
Give me your machine.

>>530946403
Sorry you're so shit. But that pity won't mean you're getting carried through havocs.

When are we getting new Arbitroter cosmetic?

This is what no duelling sword does to a nigga

>>530946974
two months
I want something blue.

What weapon do people normally use for h40 on zealot?

>>530946993
>first target 60 percent
oof. Other than that, pretty based.

>>530947012
1. dooling sword
>powergap
2. relic blade

Not using DS? That's a kick. Not running shout? Kick. No lone wolf? Kick. No taunt? Kicka. No chorus? Ban. No plasma? Tariffs. Dog? Yiff.

>>530947362
No True Survivor? DENIED!

>>530947362
>kick kick kick
i wish i could kick

>>530947456
This but unironically. I don't care about newfags or latefags, 90% of Havoc-Forged are shitters who can't get True Survivor.

True survivor for an entry level havoc position?
Wtf is this shit

>>530947362
kek
Imagine being this salty. How many times have you gotten kicked, anon?

>>530947608
>90% of Havoc-Forged are shitters who can't get True Survivor.
I'm trying OK?
Not my fault that every time I play with in H40 somedude dies and ruins the run.

>>530946948
ignoring bad game design means you're super shit. Not sorry for how retarded you are

>>530947924
I somehow almost got true survivor running with 4 chorus zealots... someone just got downed at the very end and ruined it. Surprisingly it's actually pretty fucking effective unless there's a final toll modifier.

>>530947924
Fucking hate it when they make penances where you have to rely on other players.

>giving a shit about titles
yep, that's a kick and avoid

>>530946643
Monstrosities, special packs, ranged/melee enemies, and scab are the only fun maelstrom mods.

>>530948140
I don't care about the title, I just care about penance points.
Which even dumber honestly.

>>530947362
Havoc is where fun goes to die. Oldfags so bitter they want to masturbate over their knowledge of gold toughness being fundamentally broken.

>>530948470
Gold toughness?
*slurp*
Now, THAT was the real deal back in my day

>>530948470
pre-nerf 100 piss toughness vet shout.

>>530948612
you're right now you just roll Ogryn/Arbites squads and rush through the stage and nothing can kill you. Don't even need gold toughness anymore

>>530948660
It was 100 before?
I thought it was always just 50?

>>530948734
Yup
*slurp*
Back in MY day it took real skill and coordination

>>530948770

>>530946342
I VILL NOT mod my game.
You cannot tempt me, memory leak demon.

>>530948884
never was, you just put 4 decent players in a squad and have them hug each other

>>530948770
Yup. Back in my day veterans gave 100 piss toughness and were invincible terminators.

>>530949207
I remember playing the original patch 13 and played before it.
I never noticed that vets gave 100 piss toughness.
What the fuck?

>>530949106
Nah. It took actual skill. People keep running off and dying now because the game doesn't require teamwork anymore. I learned teamwork back in 'nam. Kids nowadays just don't get that. They live in their own little bubbles

>>530949428
Psyker cuck bubbles, that is

>>530946993
I really do like raCHAD on the Arbys, though.
He can really make the best of the combat axe with his nodes.

>>530949315

>>530949682
You'd put brutal momentum and headtaker or shred on it. He was using some ghetto mutant and crusher 1 shotter achlys

>>530949913
I know. I'm just saying Axebitrator is nice.

>>530950012
I don't doubt that. It's just a bit less refined than the never weapons and doesn't function as smoothly as you sprint

Make Maelstrom Great Again

>>530950158
*newer weapons

>>530949021
Don't you want to know how many dodges you have? How about holding block when you're typing in chat? Perhaps changing the icon of the big ammo bags? Come on, just one mod. It'll be so convenient.

>every auric maelstrom has some level 800 sweatlord that trivializes the match
>too much of a schizoid to deal with the private parties required for havoc
>would probably suck anyway
guess i have to find another game now

>>530950780
>How about holding block when you're typing in chat?
I run mods but I'll never install that one. I'm paranoid that one day the mod will break and I won't be able to stop blocking even after closing chat.

>>530951175
>Glitch happens
>Disconnect/Alt+F4
>Reload match and it's fine
What a horror story

For me it's BioPage, the mod I've been waiting for since release

>>530951291
>rejoin
>team wiped because I wasn't there to carry them
I only play havoc 40 so maybe that's my issue. I don't know how to relax anymore.

>>530950780
>Don't you want to know how many dodges you have?
I don't need a number on the screen to know. My brain is able to keep count without it.
>How about holding block when you're typing in chat?
sounds kinda neat actually, I'll think about it

>>530949021
That mod doesn't leak memory but it will crash you in mortis trials

Give me a havok arbiter build

>>530951747
inb4 this re-ignites the dog arguments

>>530951747
Do you want my build with execution order that doesn't work because keystone is currently broken?

>>530952125
...what

>>530951747
i'll start

>>530952323
He's saying execution order doesn't work because that keystone is currently broken, and he's asking if you're still interested in the build, considering the aforementioned state of it means it's not working correctly.

>>530952702
haha epic upvoted

>>530953023
nigger

>>530953179
ooh edgy

>>530952540
Here. I fixed your build a little.

>>530952702
Whats wrong with executioner order exatly?

>>530952540
Fixed

>>530929462
Havoc 40 runs better today than damnation on launch but whatever you say bitch boy

>>530927284
Yes, it isn't 100% worthless, only 98%. Wow

>>530953604
>>530953641
hivemind

>>530954295
Not exactly. I picked the cleave on shove which might actually be the wrong choice. 15% on heavy is probably better.

>>530954406
Cleave on push may or may not be broken at the moment.

did they like triple the amount of health damage ranged enemies do now?

>>530954618
No, you're just rusty.

>>530954765
nah they definitely did

>>530925998
darksisters, we're on the world stage now

This is the greatest indication of
>AIDS
>homosexuality
>meta faggotry
Arbitebabies cannot breeze through the Penance now that the Karnak Twins are taken off the mission profiles.
When you queue with one of these faggots, none of them help the team in favor of speedrunning objectives.

>>530946093
I know. I've been wanting the same thing for ages. I've taken to using the solo play mod to load into a mission and then using creature spawner to plop down enemies. It's a pain in the ass for multiple reasons though, so I don't do it unless there's something I'm really curious about. Think I did it to test whether Concussive was necessary with Arbites Maul without Forceful or something like that.

>>530947608
Getting True Survivor is mostly about getting lucky with teammates or adding good players from separate lobbies to do an organized run with a skilled team. It has little to do with personal skill. I've gone 0/0/0 multiple times in high 30s and 40, but I don't have TS. I couldn't even get it when everyone was abusing the bleed pounce bug despite having a couple sub-100 damage taken games that day. I've given up. It'll happen by chance at some point or it won't. I no longer care. The grapes are mildly bitter

>needing help ever

>>530955210
We have 15 seconds to advance up to the next boss trigger before the next mixed metal horde.

>>530955210
>he's too shit to have the best keychain in the game
Lmao.

>>530949682
I've been enjoying the TacAxe Arby quite a bit. Haven't done a combat axe run yet, mostly 'cause I've used it so much on Vet & Zealot before whereas TacAxe was only something I ran on Zealot

>>530955210
>When you queue with one of these faggots, none of them help the team in favor of speedrunning objectives.
Saying this is the biggest indicator that you're lagging behind, having epic duels with singular poxwalkers, and are checking every corner of the map for plasteel.
Skill issue, filtered.

just tried firebreak on goypass, shan't be trying it again

>>530956907
Female Fatalist sounds kinda cute

I used to speedrun but I got kind of bored by it, now I just hang around my team no matter how slow they are and sometimes pop a barrel or push a poxburster into them. I'm having more fun, I'm hearing more dialogue, and I get to actually interact with my team which is fun actually

>>530941056
That would make sense
>>530940103
Don’t play QP then lol
>>530938497
You bastard…

>>530956963
Good reply

>>530956963
I like kerillian. I know it's just kerillian but she's just got such a nice voice

>>530957045
>>530938497
Fixed with the latest hotfix.

>>530957214
That's Maul.

>>530955572
>>530955210
hello

>>530955210
So if I sport that thing people will know I'm a skilled player with huge balls?

>>530925289
I like them DOE
I appreciate their whole super powered knight schtick
>>530935153
It’s just one knife ear albeit
>pretty much don’t exist in AoS
Who cares about AoS lol
>then again neither do tomb kings
I guess technically but Nagash is close enough

>>530957508
I would immediately leave if I saw you in the lobby, not even a lie

>>530935191
L4D is solid. DRG is fun for like a few hours but man the gameplay loop really can’t keep me playing very long.
>>530935193
>Avoid the PVP. As with many Valve games, both L4D 1&2 were eventually, repeatedly, heavily discounted, and because they also run on potatoes, this resulted in a massive influx of thirdies
Tragic, I wish games would stop doing this but I know it’s a pipe dream

>>530957680
happened before, but then again snaurics usually are a musical chair for shitters

>>530929024
not really it’s just the disconnect errors that are still present

>>530925998
Who the fuck is pirate?

>>530958354
Why do you care? unless you're doing the good old "hmmmm Jesus? Jesus who again? Sorry I'm too cool to know mainstream things"

>>530919342
heh… just wait for the next update buddy…
>>530919467
wrong

>>530924403
What an awful outfit. You should have left from the beginning once you saw his terrible fashion sense
>>530945158
No we can’t it would just be equally cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utpmu2mnzrw

Mister E said veteran is not needed in Havoc 40 anymore. It's over vetsisters

you're a vet?

DENIED!

Is it just me or is Rannick kinda zesty~?

>>530957508
Sup

>>530959708
Def a power bottom

>>530959721
Everytime I see a high lvl with no title-no frame I know it's a tryhard shitter who's not good enough to have the real deal. Bonus point if he's in reject clothes.

>>530959583
IT'S NOT FUNNY ANYMORE REEEEEEEE

>>530955210
Imagine ever using this ugly ass keychain for your insignia LMAO

>>530960048
Interesting headcanon

>>530960048
especially if it's a zealot
both ends of the cosmetic spectrum are equally bad

>>530959721
>>530960048
>>530960317
VACUUM CAPSULE!
NO!
YES!
alt-f4

>>530960048
The title doesn't matter much, but the clothing definitely does.
Out of every 10 faggots wearing the default robes, only one were actually a good sweatlord, and weren't just a faggot with an inflated ego that would alt f4 the moment he got hit. it was even worse last year when they were more rampant for some reason.

>>530944023
>>530945165
>>530945284
>>530945312
>>530945403
>>530945587
>>530945621
>>530945718
Good posts

>ME UNGA
>TEAM BUNGA
SKREEEEEEEEE THIS TEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMM

>>530946315
that doesn't even sound good fag

>>530960589
This is just a collection of Ogryn names

>>530960859
Sometime I play bunga builds, because game is too easy if I unga too much.

When you've reached Absolute Unga, the only way is to go Bunga, but in an Unga way.

>>530948910
kek
>>530949021
based stay strong brother....

>>530950780
Chuckled.
>>530956267
>and are checking every corner of the map for plasteel.
I do this. Gotta pay my bills somehow.