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Darktide:
Free Update: Battle for Tertium - Out Now! (Patch Notes)
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>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
and others

>Future games
Killing Floor 3 - 24 jul
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Jump Ship - TBA Demo Out

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

copaganda y'all

I very much like the versatility of the Helbore MkVI
You have so much ammo you never need to pick up tins or bags so your teammates can go to town with their Bolters. You can one-shot every special on a headshot, H40 pus-hardened included. And it does really good boss damage to top it off, even without Exestance

>>532157253
>MkVI
what a derp dude I think you meant the MkIV

>>532157253
heavy helbore meta will be kino when the hardstuckies catch up to it

if you are not playing arbitrator you are griefing the match

>>532157529
they never will
no one used it and it still got nerfed though

>>532157615
t. carried arbitrator player griefing his lobbies

How does a vet do this much damage?

>>532157846
by knowing how to play the game

>>532157615
Too real anon

>>532157615
I've been playing Arbitrator in Havocs so that there's 0 pressure to play Chorus. I'm so fucking sick of the book it's unreal. Also most Zealot weapons don't feel good in 30+

>>532157846
best or worst in the team, never fails

>>532158393
>Also most Zealot weapons don't feel good in 30+
This is true. Relic blade sucks ass. Duelling sword is probably the only worthwhile weapon using on zealot.
I think ogryn is still way better than arbites so chorus is still good.

>>532157846
Clean your fucking scoreboard and maybe people will actually look at it. Christ, I swear the worse thing about Fatshark's removal of official scoreboards is that the mod replacement isn't standardized. Nobody needs to see "Machinery operated" or "weakspot rate" or whatever the fuck that horrifying blob of status effect data is trying to tell you. Have some dignity and take ten minutes to trim the fat, anon.

>>532157846
Plasma gun and Helbore with focus target is what I always see vets with impressive damage running. Do note the weakspot and ranged critical rates being considerably higher than Ogryn and Arbites

>>532158665
>Relic blade sucks ass
kek
Relic Blade is actually one of the ones that still feels okay but only when you have the fucking special active. I originally didn't want to use DS, so when Havoc first came out, RB was what I used

came back to game recently after long hiatus(auric was new back then), not doing much damage with recon lasgun
can anyone hook me up with build and gear suggestions?

>>532158752

>>532158752
If only you knew how bad my scoreboard looks

>>532158902
Yeah that's because relic blade and duelling sword are your only two viable options, and relic blade is just kinda ass compared to DS. All the other weapons aren't even worth thinking about.

>>532158931
recon lasgun really likes criticals
get the crits on dodge talent and give it + crits perk, replace salvo with infernus for boss damage

>>532159238
Stop, anon. It hurts.
I hope we see Zealot talent reworks and/or weapon buffs before we see Arby nerfs and that they don't absolutely ruin Arby when they do. I won't play Havocs if I'm effectively stuck doing DS Chorus shit

I have the remap controller mod and skitarius
is there a way i can remove the special action key and make right trigger to do normal attacks and right bumper do a heavy attack?

>>532159238
What about combat and tacaxes?

>>532159238
But muh Rashad

>>532159009
>implying presentation isn't important
It's a genuinely grotesque amount of clutter that adds precisely nothing of substance. Why keep it? What value could you possibly derive from your total environmental kills? Maybe, MAYBE you could find some autistic use for those stats when buildcrafting, but it's absolutely worthless when running missions normally.
>>532159238
It's not really fair to weigh other weapons on the same table as DS, honestly. It's just so wildly over the top as a weapon that it breaks the scale. Relic Blade is a phenomenal weapon and easily carries H40s when wielded well, it's just that the DS is autopilot mode.

>smelter complex
>reach the singular growth you have to destroy that's blocking the door controls
>two hexbound daemonhosts activate
>one is inside the room with the growth
>second one is on the other side of the locked door
>rush to get the door open
>beast of nurgle spawns
This was on havoc 11, how much worse does it get?

>>532159660
>>532159579
im reminded of the fact that duelling sabre is on the chopping block
you would think they would make an attempt to make other weapons relevant, and not these weapons worse

bit off topic but what do you guys think of Destiny 2? All of its dlcs are on sale for ten bucks and the gameplay looks fun enough

>>532159831
i think heinous rituals is pure mental
if you have a team geared to take them out just tighten up formation and get ready to pound the DH in
>>532159937
>and the gameplay looks fun enough
Destiny is 100% marketing
game looks great
game is boring as shit and floaty as hell
also PvP maps are a shitshow and the gun balance iirc there is literally
>do you have the seasonal SMG
also every season all your shit you worked for becomes literally bottom of the barrel worthless because
>muh light level
gets reset
you couldnt pay me to go back

>>532159831
>how much worse does it get
think about 2 lieutenants + 1 captain + 1 monstrosity in one room along with multiple waves of bulwarks, toxflamers and dreg ragers every other game in refinery delta starting with havoc 21

>>532160602
Awesome!

>>532160678
on the other hand you will see nothing of the sort on mercantile
after havoc 20 you have to cherrypick maps if you want to progress
doesn't help that my personal assignment is always refinery delta or hourglass

>>532160875
im starting to understand that the torrent is bullshit, and i would much rather do
>the carnival
>throneside
over anything else if possible if success rate is my only objective

>>532157846
>>532158752

>>532156627 (OP)
She looks impressed

>>532161163
kek

Refinery delta is just something else. I got an insanely good team in pubs so we somehow won anyway but once we got down to the open level it just spawned a plague ogryn, beast of nurgle, twins and an entire fucking horde of flamers and grenadiers all at once. Fucking hell. Somehow we all split up and ended up soloing the bosses while dealing with the horde.

>>532161225
she looks like a rat I'm into that

>>532159936
DS is overpowered shit.
It's basically only upsides with no downsides. Like only downside, if you can even call it that, is that DS has just slight bit shitty horde clear.
But that doesn't matter at all when everyone is running shit like bolters or flamers anyway, which deal with hordes perfectly well.

>>532161628
>161628>>532159936(You)
it wasnt overpowered when the low-stamina hyper squishy psyker had it
what a disaster

>>532161781
They didn't buff the DS, they just gave it to other classes. The DS is still as OP on psyker as it has always been. You just weren't aware of how good it was back then because all the shitters only ever played veteran/zealot so they couldn't have known about psyker's busted melee.

>>532161781
>it wasnt overpowered when the low-stamina hyper squishy psyker
Unironically yes. It was stupidly strong, like it was arguably psyker's best melee weapon, but it was "controlled" by the fact that psyker isn't meant to be played as a melee class and barely has any melee talents. Also what helped keep it go so long under the radar is that lot of psyker players are shitters and bad at melee.

But once Fatshark added the sword to post-patch #13 veteran and zealot is when all hell broke loose.
For the very simple reason that both veteran and zealot have massive amount of talents in their skilltrees which complement melee combat and in general buff the fuck out of the dueling sword.
Like veteran just gets +30% weakspot damage for free which applies to both ranged AND melee attacks. And just make a guess what you mainly do with the dueling sword? Oh wait you just stab at weakpoints constantly because the weapon has absolutely retarded finesse modifiers on it.
Which then leads to funny shenannigans where you can 2 shot or even 1 shot a crusher.

>>532162414
Scier's gaze + disrupt destiny. The only thing that kept duelling sword balanced at all on psyker is that psyker players are some of the worst in the game.

>>532162414
>>532161994
well thats what im getting at
if you want to curb the numbers just take the weapon away again
a weapon of finesse looks stupid on zealot
and if you want to LARP as a commissar i would very much have a sabre or a power sabre

Sans sauce havok, s'il vous plait.

>>532159579
>>532159660
Are these actually good in 40s? I've been thinking of trying them, but I really don't see them being good, and I don't have a dedicated group to fuck around with stuff with.

>>532163456
tac axes are good, rashad is good too but i dont like it

>>532161994
For me it was the Deimos oneshotting old muties. Shame those guys got nerfed.

>>532163456
rashad is good but only zealot can hit useful breakpoints while still bringing valuable attack speed which is frankly the only thing the weapon is lacking
although imo the margins for hitting breakpoints on rashad seem like its one new difficulty or enemy buff from becoming dogshit

>>532163570
the poke can still knock a crusher on its ass so its still pretty useful
still
>the psychic attack cant 1hko anything of value anymore
what kind of fucking nerf did the force sword of all things need

>>532161781
>psyker players defending dueling sword
this is why they're all dogshit at the game

>>532164201
>reading comprehension

so uh, how do you get "good" relic with new system and what is the max power?

>>532163535
>>532163946
Nice. It seemed like the 50% HP bump (before modifiers even) would've really fucked them, especially with Tac Axe since it kind of struggles at times on Zealot already against tougher elites in Aurics if you get an unlucky no-crit streak

>>532165217
max power is 430
although what that does is anyones gues since 410 is max stats (17% TGH, 21% HP)
>how do you get "good" relic
dump melkbux

>>532165217
The rating doesn't matter except on stamina curios where you want 410+ for the +3 stam to actually be +3 and not secretly +2 (or something like that. I might be off on exact power rating req). New system lets you reroll perks as much as you please, so just throw whatever you want on there. You only need ot care about the blessing since that can't be edited

>>532165283
>if you get an unlucky no-crit streak
shouldnt happen
your biggest fear should be
>that stupid shit where your AS is so fast your character LITERALLY just holds the axe up as if reearing to attack, and holds it there and youre sitting there doing nothing waiting to cancel your non-attack with a block/push
zealot can reach a ton of 1-2 shots thanks to the 50% crit/weakspot damage talent though

>>532165376
>>532165457
thanks, so just watch Melkdonals and pray for 3 stam relic?
can I get lucky with Brunt's discount crap?

>>532165579
you can get lucky yes
but melkbux is the most reliable way to roll a bunch of dice
whites, greens, blues, and purples all roll with the same power level as a gold rare so theres no guess work on what youll get when you fully consecrate up to gold when you do roll a 410 on stamina

>>532165725
alright business as usual then, watching armory extension

>>532166045
You have a better chance from making new characters and clearing weeklies
But a full roster of the mourningstar 5 should get you like 25 rolls

>>532165549
>shouldnt happen
If something happens that causes Scourge to fall off, it's not incredibly rare for you to go 3-4 hits on something without a crit despite BP being up and getting you to like 42% crit or whatever it was. But yeah, as long as Scourge is up, it's unlikely.
>that stupid shit where your AS is so fast your character LITERALLY just holds the axe up as if reearing to attack
I don't think I've had that happen to me in a long fucking time, and I don't even remember if I had that on the Tac Axe. What Mark are you using, maybe that's it? I've been using the IV a lot lately.

10 more days and Fatshark will release the next hotfix and fixes EO on arbites and the dog. (and then the hotfix breaks 5 other things)

im getting bored with pwoer sword on veteran, or better said, sick and tired
what is the dump stat on duelling sword and how do i build that thing correctly?
Right now im using the one that goes stab stab on heavies

>>532165217
>what is the max power?
430
stats are rounded in UI, so both 410 and 430 will shod 17% max toughness but real value will be slightly different
good is anything that you need, good stamina curios start at 410 (400 are bugged and will give you 2 stamina even if it says 3), for wounds power doesn't matter

>>532167137
first you kill yourself

>>532167312
?

>>532167169
>400
>Bugged
No, fatshart in their infinite swedishness made the true value round down in gameplay, but the visual/stated value round up
How the fuck the game technical designer and the UI technician always manage to jointly fail time and time again is worth a fucking graduate thesis

>>532167312
faggot

>>532167312
brownoid

>>532167137
Iirc the dumpstat is cleave. Also use the mk4 variant.
Then you just slap on carapace + unyielding damage.
And for blessings use uncanny strike + precog or thrust or riposte.

>>532167638
>No, fatshart in their infinite swedishness made the true value round down in gameplay, but the visual/stated value round up
so it's bugged

>>532168424
>carapace + uncanny

>>532168497
The weapon already rapes all other armor types, no point in putting like flak or maniac.
Also no point in perks like stamina, block efficiency or even crit chance since veteran already gets massive amount of crit chance in the tree so you're hovering around 30-50% crit chance almost constantly.

>install a mod that tracks wins
>see a guy that won a game with me before hosting
>denied
it's all so tiresome

>>532168429
Working as intended
A bug is the dog jumping, staggering everyone at point of origin, staggering everyone on the travel path, and stunning on pounce, and applying 6 stacks every time
This is the UI designer assuming rightfully it should round up
Not that it should because I'm Vermintide we had non integer stamina

>>532168932
English, motherfucker, do you speak it?

>>532168424
got it thank you

Do you guys run Headtaker + Slaughterer on the Branx or do you put Thrust in for bossing and hitting Captains when their shields are down?

>>532170316
>my hand after jerking off psyker

which weapons or weapon classes dont "jump off" off carpace and flak on light attacks? blessed or unblessed

Got my true survivor at last, now i'm well and truly free.
God bless hab dreyko for being a snooze fest.
We're all gonna make it bros

I'm having FUN playing the Arbitrator

>>532172225
Literally anything after 1 stack of rending or brittleness
And then the tacaxe has the notable trait of doing as much damage to armored with lights as it does heavies

>>532172260
no ur not

>it doesn't matter what your true level is, if your randoe don't have at least h20 they're somehow worse than the AI
Anyone notice this? I'd say roughly 11pm CST is when the absolute bottom of the barrel shows up to play

How do some people throw grenades instantly without even pulling them out?

>>532172578
*kisses forehead*
Thank you

>>532173095
it's a mod

>>532173095
Probably the same way they flawlessly do the interrogator mini game

I exclusively play havoc 40 and wanted to jump down into 20's to help people climb. Most of these players I'm playing with in party finder are mechanically talented enough for havoc 40, but they fight in dumb places. I use the quickchat mod to make call outs and by the end of the map the entire pub feels like a well oiled machined that just walks to the end. It definitely helps playing an Ogryn as people are more inclined to follow the tanky big guy in front.

Havoc games should take about 22-33 minutes, anything more and you probably failed to seize advancement opportunity. If there is no armor in front of you then it's time to move up. If you are lingering around until every trash mob is dead then you're just allowing more specials/hordes to spawn which creates more opportunity for bosses to spawn. If a boss spawns then 9/10 times you stop in your tracks and pull him to a good fight spot, there are exceptions where you advance a bit to the next good fight spot but that's only if you have the map knowledge to know you won't trigger more bosses/rituals.

I will say that there is a ton of map knowledge in havoc and knowing where rituals spawn, which rituals are bugged, and where bosses spawn will make a huge difference as well. Beyond that the next step is pulling these predictable boss spawns into good fighting spots before you fully commit to them.

>>532173095
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/480

>>532174762
>It's an ogryn backtracks to address the trickle episode
I knew it felt off

>>532175138
Teehee

>lady in trenchcoat asks me to run maelstrom mission
>okay
>500 pox hounds, mutants, snipers, flamers, monstrosities later,we finish the mission
>lady tells me I am rank 16 in Havoc
uhh thanks?

>CIVI Maelstrom my beloved
>Having an absolute blast, 2 shitters go down and leave so it's just me and another guy mulching hordes of crushers and maulers, absolute great time
>Error 2014
>Try to reconnect, just load into Morningstar and can't get back in now
>CIVI no longer on the board
I genuinely cannot think of a game dev that wants me to play their game less than FATSHIT. They do everything possible to make this shit as painful as they can then fuck off on holiday for 3 months. I'm actually fucking mad at how shit this fucking game is on so many levels. CAN SOMEONE ELSE PLEASE FUCKING MAKE A TIDE GAME THAT ISN'T THESE FUCKING SWEDES PLEASE GOD

>>532179996
Wrong image bud

I just realized arbites are supposed to be cops. So I've been playing and paid for copaganda? Holy shit man

>>532181019
yeah i dont know why no one is talking about this

>delete dueling sword
>delete mk3 bully club
>delete arbites shock maul
>delete purgatus staff
>delete rumbler
I fixed Shartide

Finally done with the Vet Penances. The last one I had to do was the Armorbane. Started grinding it at 56 kills with kraks. I will say after using only them on my melee vet build for the past three days did teach me a lot on the best case scenarios of using them. However there were many times in Havoc I was thinking to myself "God I wish I had smokes/frags here."
/end blog

>>532181685
>delete mk3 bully club
Why? It's not better than pickaxe.

>>532181685
>delete arbites shock maul
you'll just turn them all onto shield and maul, and that's completely fucking busted for much dumber reasons

>>532181982
Mashing m1 to get the same or better performance than the pick, I think.

>>532182895
Pickaxes are also brainless as fuck so I don't see it. He must simply be a giga shitter.

havy sword is so terrible cant even kill normals in 5 hits, shit dodge distance, completely immobile when swinging, deflects on just a whiff of armor, no good blessing like what is going on. what am i missing. im dread trying that claw sword next

nobody tell him

it exists to overhead poxhounds

>>532161225
she's giving him a blowjob off-screen in the bottom pic

>900 hours of Dorktide
>having only seen like 4 people with the Pox Breaker title
Why 1 million kills?

Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

>>532185606
I have 500 hours and I don't count poxbreakers but i've seen more than 10 for sure.

>>532183297
headtaker deathblow flak unyielding, don't light spam, use the wide heavy of your mark into a light for horde clear combo, use special into h1 loops for hard single targets, push often in horde clear, and aim for the head

>>532183297
also dump cleave targets, you don't need it with deathblow

hehe dump cleavage

>>532185606
Now you have seen 5

>dump cleavage
butt cheeks?

>>532157253
i'd like to see you hit those shots while it's moving and turning and spinning and attacking

is poxbreaker more impressive than trve svrvivor?

>>532186961
Poxbreaker just means you've been playing for a while. You can have poxbreaker and be a complete shitter who's only played auric.

>>532186961
Poxbreaker just means you play more, in my experience those autismo no life level 4000 players are usually better than average but still substantially worse than myself.

>>532186961
True survivor just means you got carried

>>532185606
Goddamn that’s a cool looking character. When do we get his cosmetic? How big is his penis? Does he do anything badass?

>>532187153
That's havoc forged, not true survivor.

>>532174762
>If there is no armor in front of you then it's time to move up. If you are lingering around until every trash mob is dead then you're just allowing more specials/hordes to spawn which creates more opportunity for bosses to spawn.
A billion times this. Always 1 retard acting like an anchor holding the entire team back. Certain areas on certain maps are just bad places to be and we want to get past them asap. A team that can move rapidly when there's an opening is such a blessing.

What kind of ogryn build do you usually run?

>>532187321
True survivor just means that everyone carried eachother

>>532187153
90% of true survivors got it in 1.0 when it was way easier and it shows

How much do you guys think Dark-Tides Ost helped it's growth? I honestly feel like if not for the music this game would have been dusted shortly after release. It's one of the things that makes people remember it even existed during it's long draughts. Fat-Shark should be grateful that Jesper Kyd has done them such a service for both VT and DT

That guy just nails the Warhammer's soundscape. His take on Skaven is amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zel1NCYPAA&list=RD1Zel1NCYPAA&start_radio=1

And so is his take on 40K It's a great mix of electronic and Pipe-organs, they really do mesh well together. Mechanicus really deservesan honorable mention as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCR7ovEwtCA&list=RDKCR7ovEwtCA&start_radio=1

>>532188197
skibidi

can someone explain zealotte to me?
Im made of paper, my big hammer doesnt oneshot normal enemies, has no crit, no bleed, is slow and does overhead which is terrible for hordes. The only good resistance node is locked behind crit which i dont have. I dont get it

>>532188421
What are you doing? The only zealot build right now is the duelling sword critmaxxing chorus healslut supportsissy

>>532187272
>When do we get stormtrooper
Unironically would require veteran to get retooled from a ranged focus character to an allrounder because in its current state I see a stormtrooper invalidating "veteran sharpshooter"

>>532188197
Vt2's is better but darktide has its high moments
>>532188421
Zealot is weird in that it can add crit to weapons without it, and attack speed to weapons that need it, make of that what you will

>>532187487
I really need to learn to just leave that one faggot taking his time behind. I tend to be the glue in the group, taking care of the of specialist and helping out wherever it's needed. But I really fucking struggle with leaving people behind.. When someone fucks around I'll try and ping for them, and I'll eventually try to run and grab them or save them.. I really should just stick with the rest of the group and let them learn their lessons....

But I do hate Rushers an equal amount.. It's so fucking annoying when someone just sprints ahead skipping and triggering every single pack, so they eventually all funnel into whoever is trying to catch up. Sometimes you also just have a group that struggles, where just taking it a bit slower would make a giant difference on whether you fail or succeed

>>532188421
Literally everything you said is wrong unless you somehow managed to only pick bad talents

>>532188801
>whoever
Catching up to a rusher is much more entertaining and potentially stronger than the team getting dragged back to save someone's ass

>>532188421
Some people will tell you a lot of cope involving
>bro health build
or
>chorus is all the toughness you need
but the reality is that zealot is old and dusty, and ogryn rework and arbites are how every class is going to operate within half a year to a year

wait for the zealot rework

>>532188557
>>532187272
They should honestly add something like the Hero talents from WOW. Every class get a pick between three different further specializations on top of the talent tree.

Make people level them for some extra padding even.

>>532188197
>And so is his take on 40K It's a great mix of electronic and Pipe-organs
Agreed. It’s arguably the most 40k genre I could think of. Fits both the gothic setting and the sci fi setting. Mechanicus does the AdMech justice too but it’s exclusively for them whereas Darktide could feasibly go with any faction

>>532188547
>>532188729
>>532188978
>>532189032
Zealotbros, i though vet has it bad but you people are truly made of suffering. I take everything back i said abou you, you are the real stars of the show

>>532188197

REDDITUS

FAGGOTO

BIGGITUS

BOOBITUS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZTvUIMcT40&t=222s

>>532190045
>Reddit version that's just 90% of nothing that some retard added
Please just listen to the original.

>>532189704
The real stars are arbites and ogryns and they don't suffer at all

Soooooooooo where's the slop?
Is that korean chink gonna post it or nah?

>>532191131
what is zealot then, underdog?

>>532191839
Superfluous

The post that broke /coopg/

Felinid >:3c

>>532191890
i dont know that word

>>532158752
Sounds like someone's jelly that I pressed more buttons than HE has.

haw haw.

>>532167312
Ok done. What now?

>>532196713
It means that zealots are not needed

>>532186961
Titles are all just for show and mean jack shit. No one actually think's you're super based, solely because you have a title.

>>532158752
Wasn't the mod made by a g*rman?
Those nazi fucks just can't help themselves

>>532189280
Darktide is kinda like either the "everyman" Faction, or the "Penal battalion" faction if you wanna stretch a bit.

>>532197567
Ugh, disgusting.

>>532186961
Yes

>>532187272
Someone tried to mod it in

>>532198228
You know how they say that "less is more"?
Well, this guy has never heard that phrase before

>>532198473
This looks better than 99.99% of cosmetics in the game.

>>532197404
i will make it work and you will be happy having me on the team

>>532198630
Low bar
>>532198682
Right, but could you just bring a taunt ogryn instead?

>>532191839
>Arbys are still picked because they're still FOTM and really potent. Plus it's the first time we've had statisfying shotgun play in a long time in Darktide. It's beginning to wear it's welcome and people are going to other classes, but Arby is still a hot guy

>Ogryn's are pure Unga Bunga. you don't need to overthink them. He has powerful melee weapons, a tanky build, and tons of fun ranged guns that go WAAAGH!!!

>Veteran's a gimped Arby at this point, but still get's picked because there's always the Imperial Guard fanboys

>Zealot is just a Dueling Sword healslut, or a charging Dueling Sword with a machine gun. His flame thrower, as it all Fartshark flamers, fucking AWFUL to use.

>Both Zealot and Vet have a pointless stealth ability/tree for some fucking stupid reason. Smoke nades could be better for dealing with packs of ranged and steam support, but why should Zealot be a sneaky when his whole deal is being a Firebrand Zealot?

>Psyker is the worst as he's just dangling out there alone, with barely a role to play, or a kit/still tree that feels hard fun beyond "I do some magic and maybe I pop or hold R and do more magic". Total Shield slut.

>>532198630
This just looks like some edgy 12yo had acces to a character creator and just pilled up everything because he can.

>>532199575
You'd pay 60 dollars for that skin if fartshart made it.

>>532191839
Zealot is secretly the glue that holds a good havoc team composition together, but nobody in this general actually plays havoc 40, and those that do, have given up posting about it for an overwhelming majority of utterly retarded responses from all the 20-30 hardstuckies.

>>532199780
No. It looks like shit and was clearly made by a retard

>>532199918
>t. raised his visor for 5 dollars

>>532200053
Nope

>>532200053
>t. 12 years old

>>532200053
>>532200123
Gentlemen the real pay pig question is: Will there be a cute Krieg skin for the dog?

>>532200247

>>532199849
Correct. A good zealot with a critmaxxed chorus build is extremely good in h40

>>532200247
Of course.

>>532200247
Krieg arbites cosmetics would be cool, but the lorecels would riot

>>532200449
Oi I said Krieg, not Armageddon.

>>532200515
Did they riot about the other krieg skins that weren't just Veteran?

ARE there Krieg Ogryns in lore? Krieggers are notoriously dour and don't have alot of personality as is, an Ogryn would just stick out unless they gave them all like super WWI Depression pills.

Any news or leaks of the shop?

>>532201048
I had some guy express his frustration over ogryn krieg cosmetics during a mission

>>532201520
Sure lorewise it makes zero sense.
On the otherhand, my Ogryn has a bitching goat, black gloves, and a gas mask that just drips.

>>532201048
I don't think there are any canon examples but there's nothing stopping a krieg regiment being assigned some ogryn auxiliaries the same way as any other regiment.

>>532201630
>gas mask that just drips.
That's no good. Gas masks are supposed to be airtight and well sealed

>>532201048
DoW 2 Krieg DLC had Krieg Ogryns and Catachans in grey camo.

>>532159937
do you like shit you paid for being removed from the game? I sure didn't

>>532201048
I could easily imagine an Ogryn being attached to Krieg regiment trying to adopt their style. But I would also imagine the Ogryns being either super depressed due to all the shorties always dying around them. But any Ogryn fighting with them would most likely not live long enough for that to happen anyways

>>532201897
The Ogyn has a cold.

>>532198228
We're gonna need to talk about your fifteen pieces of flair...

>>532175056
>you can configure it to automatically remote det based on enemy proximity
Nice, now the dog can play itself even more completely.

>>532197567
please don’t make them sound cooler than they actually are

>>532159937
Don't fucking do it. I LOVED that franchise. But it's gotten so bad and is monetized in the worst ways imaginable. Gacha games feels downright generous and respectable compared to what the fuck Bungo is doing

They have also been on record saying that they are not working on Destiny 3. They funneled all their money into a fucking Extraction shooter instead of improving their biggest cash-cow. Their choices are beyond fucking retarded. The whole studio is infected by nothing but Yes men circle jerking each other and allegedly displaying blatant favoritism towards shitty projects with no hope.. Fuck them. I wish Destiny was good. The IP had such potential

>>532197567
>HANSEL, TIME FOR ZE GUTEN NIGHTEN!
>NEIN MUTER! I MUST ADD ZE POINTLESS COUNTER FOR TIMES A PLAYER SAID ZE "N-VURD" IN ZE DARKENTIDEN!

>All this while loud Omph-Pah-Pah plays.

>>532197696
I meant it’s soundtrack specifically actually
>>532159937
Everyone I’ve ever known who’s played it regret investing time in it. I myself haven’t played anything to do with Destiny like a month after the first game released when I was like 13. Take that as you will.

>>532202886
They really do be like that

what's good for the helbore

>>532204672
Surgical for sure. Then either hotshot or infernus, I forgot which one's better. Probably hotshot.

>>532204672
Surgical and uhhhh shock trooper

>>532202886
memes aren't supposed to be this accurate, anon

>>532159937
>All of its dlcs are on sale
Except for all the ones that were removed from the game because the devs are too retarded to optimize lol

>>532202461
I don't get it

>>532207934
I forgive you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXCsW2Re9bA
tl;dw helbore's blessing hotshot has more cleave in its lowest tier than the highest because swedish coding

Very interesting that I picked up the helbore a few days ago and now suddenly everyone is talking about it again.

Hecksnore

>the chudgun

>>532210443
>>532210698
>>532210780

>You're only using the Helbore either because you have a full Krieg vet skin and want to use it, or you're really sad you missed out on a Kreig skin.

>>532210930
I haven't used it in a long ass time even though i have the cosmetic with the good ironsights

>>532210930
I have the steel legion skin.

>>532210298
>looks at the code
>swiggers implemented the multiplier backwards
>the same way they did with nuncio
>the sheer level of incompetence
Nuke Sweden

>>532210443
you're a trend rider

>>532211323
they were quick to fix nuncio because it'd be too beneficial to the player if they didn't :)

>>532211497
Pretty sure I started the trend by doing so well with helbore in h40. Probably played with some sloptuber that got inspired by my gameplay.

death to plasmabot

>>532211648
This... this uh... this never happened btw

>>532211648
people have been playing helbore in havoc 40 for longer than "a few days ago"

>>532213443
Yeah uh huh but somehow not a single person ever talked about it. The moment I pick it up it's just like that click next day people mention it several times in the thread. Pretty fucking obvious.

>>532214137
You only picked it up because someone talked about it no cap

>>532214137
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion

>>532214492
Anon is literally delusional and hallucinating

>>532214492
Nah, it's definitely not this because ask yourself if anyone had ever asked any questions about the helbore before like 2-3 days ago. No one had ever spoken about it here but as soon as I picked up multiple anons started asking questions about it. They definitely just played with me and decided to try copying me, or some sloptuber copied me and now they're trying to get on the trend.

>>532215219
I just checked the previous threads and this follows the normal wave of helbore discussion. You are literally just imagining things

>>532215219
>wave of helbore discussion
Exactly. As soon as I used it a few times in h40 there's suddenly a wave of people discussing it. Are people really this fast to catch onto a good player trying something new? That's kinda ridiculous.

>>532216264
Bro literally replied to himself
Bro literally losing bro's mind

>hecksnore
Does he not know about the bolter or...?

>>532215219
I bought the game like a week ago and was asking about it because I'm just trying out all the weapons.

penance grind is making me lose the will to live

>>532217162
How 'bout you grind on this penance?
*grabs my big fat bulge*

fook ya mudda

>>532216645
Start firing the Bolter at the same as a Helbased and you'll run dry of ammo about 50 games earlier than a Helsneed will

So i says to him
"How 'bout you grind on THIS penance?"
And then i grabbed the crotch of my cargo pants

QRD on how to play high diff psyker? It’s the only class I can’t get into.

ayo where da taxes at ma nigguh?

>>532219705
Start every game by begging the toughest looking player to defend you

>>532219705
Play voidblast. You don't even need a melee weapon while using voidblast because it's so busted. It only falls off a little in h40 with final toll and stuff like that. But h40 teams are usually not that trash so you can run inferno staff no problem.

>>532219828
arbitrator tyrone?? you’re on the wrong side of history!!!! don’t you know you’re doing a copaganda!?!?!

>>532221036
pay up cracka i need my imperial welfare cheque

>>532219828
Uncle Tom ass mofucker

>>532221036
>>532221376
>>532221840
Don't try to be funny, just be yourself.

>>532223042
>just be yourself.
I am funny, though

>>532219828
nigga payed 5 dollars to raise visor

>>532223790
*paid

>>532223790
*nigger

>>532157253
the tanner method

>>532224346
What did his post have to do with kneeling behind a guy and rimming his asshole while you jerk him off?

Ugh my hand hurts from darktiding

>>532219828
>>532221036
>>532221376
>>532221840
>>532223042
>>532223790
>>532223918
>>532224080
>>532224575

I want felinids to lick my penis with their scratchy tongues.

>>532224747
So many (you)s
>>532224765
Better than getting their spiky penis forced up your asshole

Want to keep playing Havoc but I'm tired and know for a fact I'll make a stupid mistake and wipe the team... Class for this feel?

>>532225297
Ogryn

I keep getting full team wipes on Orthus Offensive on Malice. How do I get gud

>>532225838
that the twins fight? just focus Rinda (the melee crackhead) and ignore her brother until she's dead. If she's attacking, you focus on blocking and dodging, not attacking, and hopefully your tard mates will kill her while you do so.

>>532225971
I can block Rinda's attacks with my suppression shield, the problem is my team gets wiped as I am doing that

>>532156627 (OP)

>>532227008
play missions you can win until you get to a difficulty where people wont fold

>>532227008
Switch to Vet, throw smokes at the brother, beat the sister to death with your chain axe special attack while her brother meanders in your smoke like a retard. (This works on them in Havoc too)

gtfo is the hardest coop game

>>532219828
what are the cops gonna do, exterminatus the planet because i didnt pay fucking taxes?

>>532156627 (OP)
>have 4080
>decide to upgrade my 5600 to an 9800 x3d
>fps goes from 40-50 (fucking 30 in damnation) to 100+
Thank you fatshark very nice game you have there

>>532229662
>what are the cops gonna do, exterminatus the planet because i didnt pay fucking taxes?

Uhh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhduvvA_Xpo

>>532229662
Shock maul sodomy

Is there ANY hope? I've been waiting since 2023. I really want it to not suck.

>>532232257
even the PSA guy is doomposting

>>532232257
There is no hope
Just stick to darktide until darktide 2 comes out

>>532232257
they make FS look competent and productive

>>532232257
No. stop giving it attention like the crack whore it is, and play other good /coop/ games.

>>532232257

>>532229856
congratulations on unlocking the true potential of your computermachine

>>532227201
you ruined it

I did new map in ratclick and I don't get it, why rats wanted to nuke helmgart? that place already is an abandoned ruin with literally nothing and nobody there

Psykersisters, I stopped being a purg bubblesissy and I'm now a TRAVMA shriek chad.

>>532229406
when the hitboxes don't match the models it does make things a bit challenging

>>532238046
I know. I felt your ascension through the warp.

Newbie here, got a question
So I've bought darktide recently and have played a few missions. I got some weapons from the random drops, but apparently there is a crafting system which lets you craft the meta gear. So, what's the reason that the devs have ruined what could have been a pretty good game by creating this goyslop crafting system? Why the FUCK does every dev catter to normalfags? Like what's the point of replaying the same missions with the exact same gear over and over again?

>>532239560
rajeesh is back

>>532239560
How was your 3 days ban, Pajeet?

>>532239560
You shouldn't bother with crafting until level 30.

>>532239627
it's a ritual troll. He does this daily when he's not banned. Some kind of mental illness.

>>532239951
just wait until he starts insulting americans it's funny to watch the level of envy is off the charts

>>532239560
Be advised, brown hands typed this.

>post something not agreed to by the echo-chamber
>no answer, not meaningful discussion, just endless ad hominem and general hatred
>keep trying to discuss the thing
>he is just a ritual troll bro
why are normalfag redditors like this? r/coopg is one of the worst offenders, the last time I did thing like this was on /leg/ and guess what, the general is dead since the normalfags have moved on to another fotm goyslop just like I kept saying. Guess being called out really triggers the "people" here

>>532239560
>>532240251

>>532240251

>>532240251

>>532240251
I'm a simple map, when the rngGOD posts, I (you)

Dark and turd

>>532240827
doesn't sound healthy, i suggest purchasing more aquilas

>532240251
>532239560
Bait so stale and lame that you have to cross your fingers and hope a newfag replies to you

>>532241145
>>532240251

>>532240251

>>532239560
>>532240251
Casinotard, you're not fooling anyone with your dogshit takes.

I don't get it, you still have to rely on RNGjesus for good dump stat/proper power relic

>>532241174
>>532241145

he's not even a troll since he was spotted saying those shit on other threads about darktide. The dude really believe he's in the right

>>532241543
Even if he did believe it, he still shouldn't be taken seriously

>don't argue with him sisters, just ignore his blasphemous words!
r/coopg at its finest

>>532241543
Even if he believes it why woild he lie about being a newfag
Stop replying to copypasta

>>532241995
there is also nothing stopping him from playing that way if he really wanted to. All of the old systems are still in place. In fact people do rely on the rng for hardcore runs only equipping what they get from emp gifts or shop and avoiding the crafting system. Baby must have no self control and is incapable of handicapping himself if he honestly believes the bullshit he spouts

Yawning at this stale ass retard

At least he's bumping the thread. That's pretty nice of him.

>be rashad dog chad
>strive in havocs 20-30, deal massive damage, eliminate all threats, struggle with rampaging enemies but it's a mild annoyance at worst
>switch to shield lone wolf, suck dicks, die, wipe
>get accepted into h40, the usual build doesn't work for the flow of the game, everyone zooms around instead of progressing steadily, you don't get a chance to eliminate enemies, it's a speedrunning contest until you encounter a boss, if you pause to kill shit you're left behind
>switch to shield lone wolf, stunlock waves with shock mines, suddenly you only face half of the enemies because the waves from behind don't reach you, when you flashbang enemies in front your teammates clear them and suddenly it's no longer a sprinting contest
Whyvis it like that? How come a build that's perfect for h40 doesn't work in h25 (or maelstrom even) and vice versa? Is it because of bad teammates? I guess it makes sense, it's the worst in maelstroms because everyone dies and you have to solo it with a build that's uncomfortable.

>>532242931
>everyone zooms around instead of progressing steadily
this is very team dependent. Some teams are slow, some are fast.

>>532242563
I love morrow

>>532242931
Higher difficulties require more defensive play
Vikings didn't bother bringing shields against undefended villagers

>>532243258
Obviously, but I'm pretty sure a good team would appreciate crowd control regardless.
Meanwhile it's pointless in low havocs / maelstroms because nobody utilizes it and you get shit on by millions of snipers, flamers and bombers. The only way to prevent it is to kill shit fast, which shield is not as good at as rashad with brutal momentum. Plus your shit teammates will not help you with disablers so dog is more useful.

>>532243739
Rashad kills faster (faster than you often even realize) but the shield has some pretty decent damage too

>>532159937
Destiny is like if you were actually forced to play recruit in vermintide for 200 hours before finally being allowed to move up, to champion

>>532243929
yes, shield is by no means bad, I wouldn't bring it to H40 if it was

Another episode of coopg falling for the guy that posts the same bait every thread, and then falling for his samefag right after

>>532242931
You played Archivum Sychorax didn't you? And you assume that every map will play the same.
Rushing Archivum is a bit of a known meme. It's the easiest map, the spawns are very predictable and meek, there are no events until the end -- at which point, boss spawns are EXTREMELY rare -- and the entire thing is shaped like a straight line.
For every other map, except maybe Hab Dreyko, you can't speedrun. You have to slowly build ground.

>532244525
You got called out instantly

>>532242625
The Authoritarian male is an absolute womanizer. He's flirting with at least 3 of the females

>>532232158
That sounds kinda hot…
>>532232257
It’s a no from me.

>>532229856
How much did it cost? Is that like really good? I’m going to get a giga PC and my budget is 6k~ but idk what to get

>>532239560 (me)
>>532240251 (me)
both me btw

>>532244695
No, it was mercantile
I didn't play h40 before so rushing took me by surprise
We still failed 3 times lol, but at least I pulled my weight when I switched to shield ogryn told me to go solo rescue 2 other players and I got netted, it was a retarded order and I'm abretard for following it

>>532245146
curse you Tzeench...

>>532245469
Bro, that ogryn had faith in you and you let him down

>Name of the ogryn? Adolf Hitler.

>>532245723
Isn't that the poxbreaker guy who posts here?

>>532242931
>>532244695
>>532245469
I'll be honest I thought this was talking about a Havoc 40 game I did my ogryn today.
Made me a bit worried if I had fucked up.

>>532245539
Yeah but also if I temporarily stopped dying after switching class doesn't mean I stopped being a shitter with havoc 30 clearance

>>532245469
Rushing isn't the norm, no. There's too many problems with that. For one, you trigger boss spawns within certain sections of the map. There's no real limit to how you can have at once, afaik. Weakened monstrosities and captains can spawn alongside those scripted bosses. You can't escape them, they never despawn. Next, walls of crushers, bulwarks and gunners will block your path, while all those bosses mount up on you.

i'm on the fence about killing floor 3
it's very obviously shit but i had fun

>>532247445
just wait until the 10 dollar DLC weapons

>>532247538
they already have menus in place for premium currency and season pass

>>532247445
It really didn't do anything for me unfortunately.

>>532247445
I like the shuriken and throwing knives. The rest was bollocks.

>>532247445
*impales you on the fence post*

SHUT THE FRICK UP

I will never fence sit again after sustaining severe injuries, doctors say I will never walk straight again

>>532245146

>>532248510
un petit kebab chef?

Well, yeah, Fatshark reworked my class...how did you notice?

>>532248510
>obraz
aaaand it's a slav third worlder, now we know why you envy americans so much lol

>>532248805
tumblr nose

>>532248510
Heмнoгo шaшлыкa, шeф?

>>532248510
nice doctored image

>>532244891
For once I'd like one of these dudes to flirt only with his fellow men.

Does that surprise you? Polaks are the bottom of the barrel among the Slavs. A country without culture or history, conquered by all its neighbors for centuries without notable resistance. Too German to be Slavic, too Slavic to be European and years of buttfucks by the russians didn"t help.

>>532244891
i dont think he's flirting, just autistically trying to interreact with teammates and form bonds. He only knows how to talk about procedure, the cyber mastiff, and singing. he's autist af

which hellish server would the pajeetoids even use?

>>532251901
butthurt pidoras wrote this post

>>532251901
trvke

>>532251901
true

SCREAM
SCREAM
IT SOUNDS NICE

This is your daily reminder that melee veteran is better than zealot

What determines the charge rate of hexbounds?
Some will take eons to fill their bar, standing right next to them, patiently waiting for us to clear an entire horde, three bosses and then have only half charge by the time we finally decide to slap them.
Meanwhile others will fill their summoning charge so fast that it's already at 75% in the short amount of time it takes to walk to them from across the room

>>532255020
Distance

i really like stealth, no clue why you people dab on me for it. RIght now im playing zealot knife stealth crit martyr thingy (since knife has already great crit) and im having good time. Did the twins on auric yesterday and revived two people while consistently avoiding all damage from the twins. Felt like a hero for a moment. The damage was nothing to write home about but the mobility, attack speed and funfactor was there.

Man public barotrauma is SO MISERABLE, I HATE SLAVIC ACCENTS EVERYWHERE

>>532244891
Source? I thought the Fatalist was the flirty one?

Purgatus might just be the best ranged weapon in the game: amazing damage against bosses, clears waves even of buffed enemies like nothing, staggers elite enemies, has infinite ammo and doesnt take an hour to take out like the flamethrower (yes I know about the knife trick)

>>532256894
>amazing damage against bosses
not as amazing as punching the bosses with your melee weapon

When the Abiotic Factor is TODAY.
Does Abiotic Factor count for this thread?

>>532257865
yes, every fotm normalfag slop counts

My favorite coop games are the ones with cute girls in them.

>>532257865
how is it with randos? I have yet to go after the first alien portal

>>532258142
so every game because you are the cute girl playing them?

>>532255020
if you hit a cultist it starts ticking up fast too no matter the distance

>>532257865
IM WITH THE SCIENCE TEAM

>>532259067
I am the girl you replied to and I am feeling gender euphoric now

>>532236416
This was before everyone realized it was THE Endtimes so they figured they could just reclaim it and rebuild no problem.

>>532258186
Not sure, I've only played it solo and with friends. With how the game is structured playing with randos might be one big chaotic mess.

>>532239560
Are you new, or the same guy whose been rocking back and forth obsessed about the crafting system I've seen?

>>532259426
Endtimes didn't happen in Vermintide trust... my Ubersreik pretties get to live happily after killing all the rats...

>>532259353
good good, dont forget to dilate and take those pills girly (male)

>>532225000
>Better than getting their spiky penis forced up your asshole
Just use a good condom and lots of lube.

>>532257865
yes, people were playing it here months ago
don't know if I'll have the patience to boot it back up and finish it off, I was getting pretty tired of the current "carry two lasers and like three laser batteries" routine, so I hope enchanting made some other weapons strong and ammo efficient
it's better solo

>>532259303
Do you know who ate all the donuts?

>>532245723
>The Final Solution?
>More like The Final Course!

>>532251085
>God I wish I could have a QT Nerd GF that's also a Fujo
>The Nerd GF Fujo in question

>>532259735
I'm sorry anon....we know the awful truth. Best we can hope is they don't get butchered in Sigmartide. aka Sigmar click

>>532259931
Question.

Would Felinid cocks be spikier if they join Chaos?

>>532260952
If Khorne probably. Blood for the blood god.

>>532260743
Don’t joke about that please
>>532260952
I don’t see why not. Horny/spiky protrusions is like a mainstay of chaos mutation. It’s not like everywhere but the dick is affected.

I got havoc 40
Will I get demoted again next week?

>>532261628
as long as you beat one havoc game of any rank each week you cant get demoted
until fagshark decides to put every 40 player back to 30 like they did with Arbites release

>>532260136
they're waiting for you anon... in the test chamber

>>532261924
I refuse to go another step!

>>532261628
you're stuck at 40 until the next havoc update.

Fatshark gave up on Weave seasons after the first three, so you probably only need to worry about ranking back up to havoc 40 1-2 more times before Fatshark gives up on it.

Steel Hunters isn't too relevant to this place, but they call it PvPv(E) so whatever. The game is sun-setting soon (kek) and the devs are doing a livestream. This game received 0 advertising and had several poor decisions that made it seem like it was set-up to fail, such as the release version having less content and worse performance than the NDA beta. Kind of interesting if you are similarly fascinated by massive market failures like I am.

>>532264965
that didn't last long.
It looked high quality in the videos. But i'm not a fan of the stylish mech designs. I miss Chromehounds.

>>532264965
>have fully completed character class for years during closed beta
>strip it from release
>release it post launch and pretend very hard that it's new content
>except the only people playing your game all know that isn't true, because they were in the beta

>>532265976
Yeah the mech designs are terrible.

>>532264965
Keep me posted, Jules.

come up with a unique primary fire for each staff because fatshart sure as shit can't

>>532267565
you first

>>532267653
>purg
it's fine
>trauma
similar to force push from force swords but stronger and deals damage
>strike
it's fine but needs refinement, the delay and tiny projectile size are unsatisfying
>zap
medium range chain lightning that jumps a couple of times and electrocutes everyone hit, more damage than smite but way less than the secondary fire

>>532267565
You take away my blaze bolt and I will cut you

>>532267565
They could've at least fucking tried. Why doesn't the lightning staff shoot hitscan lightning on left click? Could've been the exact same damage profile as the ball but just change how it looks.

>>532267565
1. warp spheres as we have now
2. flame "puff"
3. laser

>>532268353
>3. laser
This needs to be its own staff. I need a plasmagun staff.

>>532268472
>I need a plasmagun staff.
Void Strike staff.

>>532268910
>dogshit strike staff

Fuck DS, I'm back to Deimos.

>>532269050
It works the same way and has the same effect.

>>532269270
It does not in any way. You are delusional.

>>532269761
>bro this weapon with a charge mechanic that fires a hard hitting projectile and has good cleave totally isn't same as this other weapon that has a charge mechanic and fires a hard hitting projectile with lots of cleave
Ok.

>>532270041
projectile vs hitscan

>>532270041
Plasma gun has infinite cleave with no charge up and is hitscan.
There's literally no similarity between these weapons other than the charge up mechanic. You might as well just say that helbore and plasma gun are the exact same weapon.

>>532270117
Still not enough of a difference.
It's the same weapon mechanically, only real difference is that one weapon is game breakingly over powered and other is just mediocre at best.

>>532270464
it is a vast difference

>>532270041
You're genuinely retarded if you think they're the same at all.

>>532270363
>Plasma gun has infinite cleave with no charge up
Cleave doesn't matter.
Also you can tap fire the void strike too anyway to get the same effect.

You not engaging with the weapons actual mechanics doesn't make the weapon different, it just means that the devs are retarded and need to fix the weapon so people will actually use it as it is intended.

ok he's retarded

>>532270621
Why the fuck are you in this general and posting if you've never played this game before? Such strange behavior.

>>532270873
I do play, I have used both. They work the same way.

>>532271969
Sure, buddy.

>>532262039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnDJfVhpXsc

>watching a sloptuber talk about Arbites
>refers to chocoB as "her" several times
excuse me what the fuck, is chocoB a tranny or did the tuber get it wrong?

>>532273101

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IcTXcpQOFg
sirs do not dump defense

>>532273496
fucking autists can't get to the point, didn't watch will continue to dump defences

>>532273496
*cough cough* I shouldn't have... missed out on that 0.04% dodge distance... *dies*

>>532273496
You can instantly tell that this shit is wrong even by using the Gameslantern site.

>>532273716
tl;dw in the video he is talking about the maul and shield exclusively, because power output doesn't affect damage. the difference between 60-80% power output is 2 meters (20 to 18m) and like 2 degrees of angle, but the block efficiency from 80% defense is considerably better, and the inspection in-game doesn't mention that defence affects this weapon's blocking efficiency. This could have been a 2 minute video.

I'm new to Darktide and holy shit
Are Warhammer fans mentally retarded? These are some of the worst gamers I've ever had to deal with.

>>532274663
ok

Also worth noting, block efficiency and mobility/defense stats do not affect ranged attacks in any way. They only affect melee. Ranged attacks have a fixed and unchangeable cost to block

>>532274663
>Are Warhammer fans mentally retarded?
Yeah we are.

>>532273496
>block efficiency
You can already tank a Daemonhost thoughtlessly with a 60% shield. I do not care about enhancing this trait further.
>push cost
You can already push attack - light - heavy with the Mk VI basically indefinitely. I don't care

>>532274782
>the only attacks worth blocking ignore blocking stat
bravo

>>532274935
>push attack - light - heavy
Add another light after the heavy and we're good. I like doing 4 hits.

>>532274663
cooperation in early difficulty DT is as rare as good plot in porn

>>532275235
Yeah, I shouldn't angrily shitpost when I'm new.

>>532274935
Facts. That autist is just talking about something that literally does not matter and will never change a game's outcome. Much like we are

>>532274663
this game has crossplay, which is all you need to know

>>532273496
When youtubers posting clickbait slop like this it basically proves that the game is almost in a death spiral since there's basically fuck all content to actually talk about.
Havoc is shit
Veteran is solved
Psyker is solved
Zealot is solved
Ogryn is solved
Arbites is solved, meaning they have to come up with dumbshit videos like this one.
No new weapons so point in trying to make videos on those, not like it matters anyway since all weapons in this game has like only 1 or 2 viable blessings, maybe 3 if you're lucky.
And since there is no new missions/maps or even new a biome, there is no new lore content to go over either.

Fatshark is retarded and the next update in october better be fucking good or the player count will dip below 6k again.

>>532275415
It was a crossplay Ogryn yeah. Went 2 minutes without firing a bullet, I was watching him. There should be some kind of kick for faggots like that, idk.

>raging reaper looks at me and shoots for 0.2 seconds
>downed from full toughness and hp
this game needs grace period to function

>thinking about playing darktide
:)
>realizing that I'm going to replay the same mission with the exact same gear due to the broken crafting system making looting obsolete
:(

>>532275652
>raging reaper
The game punishing retards is a good thing. Maybe not your fault that your team is retarded but this is supposed to be a coop game.

>>532275827
I mean if you don't have a bubble what can you even do?

>>532275524
holy shit you might have met the only Ogryn that uses melee outside of auric and havoc

>>532275654
good morning Saar!

>>532275937
He wasn't using melee either. When objectives started he just ran into a corner and watched everyone do everything.
Anyway, I'm going to play again.

>>532275929
You can just not damage enemies and then leave them alive?

>>532275929
48% damage resistance to rapers and then my 50% extra damage resistance from my tree with 20% toughness damage resistance when I swing and then maybe 80% damage resistance when I press Q

and also sliding

>>532275654
ranjeet it's almost time for you to clean the railways of train worshiping heretics

It's 11pm in India right now. It's American wakey hours now (7am-11am) so it seems out resident retard is a burger.

>>532275654
How do you explain the Halo games, or even Helldivers 2, being fun despite having no RNG or loot mechanics in their game systems?

>>532276583
do you expect the brainrotted progressionfag to understand the concept of fun

>>532276565
>implying call centre employees ever sleep

>>532276565
this logic fails when you realize that people can stay up past 8pm (my usual bed time)

>>532276565
it's almost 8pm in Evropa, I've already got like 3 bans for bashing on muttnigeria, retard
>>532276583
they're both dogshit, what's your point?

>>532276671
i feel like a cooler slur to use is progressoid

>>532276781
how progressive of you.

>>532276778
I don't believe you. You're falseflagging.

>>532267565
no gay as charge up on flame staff. You just press the button and the longer you hold it the farther it shoots

>took book instead of stealth
>ate sht the entire round
never again, made me ragequit

>>532275654
What about Vermintide 2's crafting system? Is that better or worse than Darktide's?

>>532277261
>never again
Keep doing that, jewboy. You'll never get good at melee while relying on your crutches.

>>532277345
>he thinks charging dueling sword is being good at melee
lol

>>532277740
>charging
>with chorus
What did he mean by this? The literacy levels here are abysmal.

>charging duel sword heavy attacks
>hurr durr what do you mean charging chorus
literal mouthbreather, dont reply to me i dont need your yous

>vermintide 2 photomode mod is dead
god damnit

>>532277835
he is charging his yellow super saiyan meter duh

>>532267565
Lightning
>Short wind-up before a thunderbolt of hitscan lightning blasts a target with high critical damage
>good damage to flak and carapace
Trauma/Voidblast
>lobs a fat, slow-moving globule of kinetic force with high gravity that deals high stagger damage to all enemies
>okay damage to unyielding and bulwarks
Voidstrike
>Concentrated beam attack with good weakspot damage
>decent damage to all targets with good enough tracking on the player

"Warp Bolts" move to all staves' special attack button. Staff Bashes require heavy special attacks.

>>532279561
fuck you the staff bonk is really good, enough to send even maulers flying

>>532274663
I don’t think you’ve played many four man style co-op games if this is taking you back. Anyone who’s played L4D should be well aware of what goes on here.

I wish they'd make a "laceration staff" that sends out cutting waves in bursts, somewhat similar to SoTT staff primary fire, and then charges up a massive warpshock slash at an oblique angle
>>532279959
I didn't mean to insinuate it wasn't. I'm merely crowding the staves with interesting bloat.

Are there any other races in 40k that would even remotely be accepted to have on the team? I don't know shit about this world beyond basic knowledge of who the chaos gods are, so I always assumed it was shoot on sight for everyone that isn't human.

>>532289073
Any non-chaos aligned race really, the Inquisition have A LOT of leeway when it comes to who they can employ, which is pretty much anyone or anything.

>>532289323
That's surprising. From how they talk, I thought they'd be more strict.

>>532289073
Yes and no. Other "abhumans"(like ogryns) would be acceptable lore-wise, but few of them have models available right now so GW would probably say no. Likewise there are some species like Votann(basically space dwarves) that work with the Imperium, but Fatshark has stated they're not gonna do a class with short stature since the maps are made with human and ogryn sized characters in mind.

Since the Mourningstar is a rogue trader vessel under Inquisitorial authority, it would be reasonable for them to work with xeno auxiliaries, as both rogue traders and the Inquisition have considerable freedom to operate as they please so long as it gets the desired results.

Rest in the Emperor's light, Ozzy Osbourne

>>532289073
Any of the abhumans, like beastmen, are an easy sell.
Between an Inquisitor, a Rogue Trader, and the questionable act that some system governors allow sanctioned xenos, they could squeeze in most anything
Votann mercenaries (space dwarfs)
Eldar (space elves)
Ork Mercenaries/Freebootas (though no one in setting would be happy about it)
Kroot Mercenaries
etc.

>>532289632
It generally is, but some factions get cut some slack. Although, Darktide is actually kind of a clusterfuck now since apart from Grendyl(the Inquisitor), Brahms(the rogue trader) we now have Dukane(a commissar) and Vortern(Arbites marshal) also somewhere in the chain of command(not to mention there's also Guardsmen and Techpriests involved in the operations, both of which have their own separate hierarchies), so it's getting kinda needlessly convoluted and it's hard to tell who actually has authority over what. But I guess that's the Imperium for you.

>>532290370
Orks are incredibly unlikely to happen since bringing orks to a planet is practically suicide.
Since orks constantly let off spores, especially after they die.
Meaning even 1 ork landing on the planet would then inevitably start a cascade effect where Atoma has to then contend with a potential ork waaaagghh in the future.
Also orks are beligerantly violent and hard to control, yeah they do sometimes "work" as mercenaries for other factions, even the Imperium.
But 99% of the time how those mercenary "deals" go is that someone, like an inquisitor shows, up gives the orks bunch of guns and scrap and then points them towards an enemy.
And inevitably once the orks win or lose the fight, they will just come back and start fighting the people who "hired" them in the first place.

Also if we go with the freeboota/mercenary idea, it'd mean that there'd be a gigantic fucking fleet of orks near Atoma, like tens if not hundreds of ships.
It'd genuinely be suicide for the entire planet if Rannick asked orks for help.

Only way I can see orks being added to the game is as an enemy faction that fights against you and moebians/admonition.

>>532291210
>it'd mean that there'd be a gigantic fucking fleet of orks near Atoma
Freebootas can also operate on small scale, from a single ship or a minor pirate fleet. Because they are the ork weirdos who get to play in the sandbox with others.

>>532289632
the team would be livid, but the inquisition can sanction xenos if they fucking like, and rogue traders can do business with and even employee xenos, so religious tenets and deeply ingrained xenophobia be damned, you're going to work with that emo looking eldar with the pierced nipples because Brahms and Grendyl said so

>>532291830
And even a 1 ship is 1 too many.
Orks aren't even a united collective even if they are under the same tribe. Also it doesn't get rid of the spore problem.

Little while ago I played with that inferno-like staff from Sienna for the first time and was in absolute fucking awe at how I literally didn't let anyone else play the game by just spamming my super economical fuck-off flames. Kinda funny they repeated the same thing for Darktide although it feels even stronger in VT2.

>>532289073
It varies widely from Inquisitor to Inqusiitor. They’re basically divided between two (very, very broad) categories known as Radicals and Piritans. These two groups operate on a sliding scale and are very black and white. Puritans are typical hardasses who typically disprove of any ‘extreme’ or unorthodox methods, that is to say requisitioning aliens as troops, using alien technology, trading with them or exchanging information, using Chaos as a weapon, summoning and controlling daemons, etc. are all off the table in their eyes. Some of them disapprove so greatly they’re willing to kill Inquisitors who do go about doing these things. Radicals are likewise the opposite of them, who are willing to employ those methods. Like I said, it’s a sliding scale. An Inquisitor who uses alien technology and recruits aliens might very well see another radical who uses Warp tainted weapons as a heretic and vice versa. It’s a case by case basis. Thus far, we have zero idea which camp Grendyl falls into, so we have no way of knowing what he would allow. He also kinds of needs to take Brahms feeling into account, since she could reasonably just vacuum out any nasty Xenos she doesn’t approve aboard her ship. That being said, if he is a Radical, just about anything could theoretically be on the table, the only limitation being what GW allows and how far they want to break the current scale of power levels we’re operating on (certain aliens and stuff are on the level of Spave Marines and even higher).

How to make Ogryn Heavy Stubber Counter-Sniper build?

I started playing Darktide yesterday and holy shit this is one of the clunkiest games I've ever played
>rapidfire makes firing animations overlap
>firing after weapon switching, reloading or blocking results in a delayed firing animation and sometimes plays the last few frames of your previous action before returning to a neutral stance
>objects occupy too much screenspace for how large they should be, this makes the game feel like a 7th gen console game
>everything to do railings and falling off the map is pure jank
>helping your teammates up sometimes just doesn't work and you have to do it multiple times for it to register
>many of your attacks don't land even though they visually made full contact with the enems
>and equally often your attacks land despite visually not making contact
>I am pretty sure several penances and achievements don't track progress correctly
>weapon effects can have super specific conditions but despite telling you what those are it can be unclear when or how they activate
>sometimes inputs don't work or abilities won't trigger for no apparent reason
My friends that have been playing since day 1 said the game has improved a lot with updates. If that's true how insufferable was this game in the past?

>>532290370
>>532291830
>>532291210
>>532292583
There’s definitely no chance of an Ork, even putting aside they’re some of the most savage of xenos it’s too great a risk to literally fight side by side with one when all it takes is them being convinced that you would make a good fight to turn on you

>>532293816
Literally none of this is true. Upgrade your 3rd world machine.

>>532293816
only part of this that i relate to is inputs not working and then i use mods to fix it

>>532229856
>4080
>5600
I fucking hate retards

>>532293629
Throw rocks at snipers. Rest of the build is whatever you want I guess.

>>532293983
I can easily run the highest settings, these issues are not caused by my hardware
The flaws I described are either inherent to the game or caused by lag during online play (the animation bugs for example don't occur in the psykhanium)

>>532294483
It's 100% your machine because I get none of this.

>>532293629
use the one with 20 round magazines, surgical blessing, hit a headshot
but if the ogryn has to kill snipers sitting 100 meters away by himself, then the rest of the team is being lax in their duties or the ogryn is poorly positioned

>>532294285
seethe poorfag

>>532294932
Upgrading to an overpriced but still not best of the best GPU without upgrading CPU is some poorfag and retard behavior, I agree.
>Oh geeze the horde game uses a lot of CPU?
>It's not 2013 anymore?

>>532174762
>>532276063
>>532245723
>>532245469
based ogryn chads

>>532293629
Just equip it
It's strong enough on its own

>>532293629
Use rock, mk5 ripper or single stubber.

But here's the rundown on ogryn vs snipers:
If the sniper is more than 40m away from you, it's not your problem and don't bother with it.
Just ping it and if you team is too stupid to deal with it then it is their fault.

It's what I do and I go through aurics and havocs just fine.

>>532156627 (OP)
So I just made it to level 30
What is a maelstrom mission and how do i start/join one?

playing the KF3 playtest and holy shit this isnt even close to finished, they need another year at least, why the fuck are people even implying this is decent

>>532296448
don't worry about havocs yet. that's the endgame tryhard hardcore metagamer ranked mode.
there used to be damnation maelstroms, but I think they are limited to auric difficulty now? might be wrong. basically they have some crazy modifiers that will drastically alter the way enemies spawn, behave, and/or environmental dangers, and a few more. they give comparatively huge rewards to normal missions. you access them from the mission terminal, same as always.
i don't think they're always present anymore, so you might have to wait for the terminal to reset the mission board to get one

>>532293273
Vermintide has friendly fire you absolute CUNT

>>532296448
go to regular mission terminal

>>532289073
Just a humble servant of the four-armored emperor
Nothing to see here

>atoma
>automa
>automaton
man of iron confirmed, Hadron will be very tsundere

>>532296879
>>532297186
What is the icon for maelstroms on the mission board?
I don't think I have ever seen one

>>532297965
literal "Maelstrom" text above the icon of map node

what's even the point of this general, honestly? Since you can just google the meta shit and craft it, what is there to discuss? Everyone is running the exact same shit anyway since the normalfag-tier crafting system allows them to do that

>>532298242
good morning Saar

>>532298106
Thanks
Is it normal for it to not be there? Or am I just unlucky?

>>532298783
>brownmericans can only use pajeet as an insult since only those subhumans are below them
always cracks me up

>>532298902
it might not be up, either way try to look at damnation / auric difficulty
auric maelstrom will place you at higher rank rank (16) from the get go

Anyone playing this? How the fuck do you farm mods efficiently? At 13 hours in, my character still feels to weak as fuck because most of my upgrades aren't all that impactful. I have very few purple ones and a single exotic.

>>532289073
>so I always assumed it was shoot on sight for everyone that isn't human.
A good assumption but sometimes they do work with xenos
When in doubt consult the chart

>>532299529
why did you use a rotated picture from steam

>>532296384
Or just shoot it because you're the best sniper in the game

>>532299775
I pulled it from google. Ask whoever rotated it

>>532299828
>Or just shoot it
I won't.
It's 40 meters away, meaning it is not my problem. I'll just focus on killing the horde and elites instead.

>>532300875
Ok retard

>>532293629
Just make a standard heavy hitter build with taunt or bull rush and throw in a stubber, it doesn't need any talents

>>532300919
Get better at the game, retard.
I won't baby sit you through the mission.

>>532294483
>>532294660
It's the network connection. This game has F tier netcode and constantly fucks up one way or another. You often get straight up kicked out of a match because of some network error because apparently Fatshart's servers aren't very well configured.

>>532301381
No? That's just your internet. I haven't been disconnected once in the last 3 months.

>>532301381
get a load of this brown retard

>>532301469
>>532301591
I don't think it is. Since the server is communicating with every other player, their connections matter too. That's the reason it takes so long to load into the Mourningstar, it's just the way the sweggers coded it. I never had any notable network issues with Vermintide in the several years I played it, but with Darktide it happens regularly.

>>532302046
I have no connection issues in darktide so it must be you.

Am I missing something or is shoulder slam arbiter really bad? The ability has way too long of a cd for being a worse fury of the faithful

Would you invite me to your heck40 if I ran Loner shock mines concussive skullcrusher BTL forceful?

>>532302613
You're pretty much entirely wrong. Nice

>>532302613
take the CDR node at the end. The cooldown is really short

>>532302649
>no shield aoe stun
Nope.

>>532303162
i guess i could run shield...
That's it?

>>532303285
I think it's really good. You can use BTL then use 2 stun charges and by that time your BTL is off-cooldown again.

>>532303562
thanks i'll give it a show

>>532301069
I don't expect to be babysat. I don't have to come crying to my team when a sniper is far away like your useless diaper shitting ass

>>532302613
It's not great but it can be used on a loop along with shock mines and shield flashbang to sustain CC
Also after investing shitloads of points into it you can unlock up to 25% strength from arbites vigilant so it pays back
It's still a worse ability and you shouldn't take it unless you use suppression shield

>>532303891
NTA, but Arbites shield is very strong. The CC is obviously insane, but it does really good damage and is very safe to boot. Might wanna run the dodge talent with it though. Its dodge is fairly poor and the one real downside it has. Mk VI has the better moveset in my opinion, but try out both

>>532304451
VI is just objectively better.

>>532302613
It's fine. The CD is low; it opens up the majority of a Bulwark congaline; it lets your team get in a lot of immediate, safe damage on an elite pack; it helps you revive people or get out of tight spots. The list goes on. It's very strong, very versatile, and requires 0 additional points. FOTF is good for buffing yourself, closing gaps, and it's pretty good when things are getting hairy since it produces some AOE stagger and gives you toughness. BTL is good, spammable CC that can be applied a number of ways. They're not really competing for the same role.

>>532304451
>>532304537
The VI loops better from multiple target to single target attacks attacks, but the light attack focus does lower carapace damage. Extra rending increases that damage significantly

The other variant has single target heavy attacks which don't need extra rending so you can skip the rending blessing without losing damage

>>532304537
I think so too, but I haven't used the XI or whatever it is enough to say I fully understand its moveset and capabilities.

>>532304985
>but the light attack focus does lower carapace damage
You 3 shot crushers with the VI without the rending talent. That's already plenty.
>inb4 Chained Strike over Opportunist

>>532299084
>try to look at damnation / auric difficulty
It says I don't have those unlocked yet, so I assumed doing the maelstrom mission was how to unlock it

>>532289073
Abhumans are fair game but they'll mostly end up as vet reskins.
Several xenos races like Kroot or Orks can be hired as mercenaries, but they are untrustworthy and look out for their own interests (getting good genetic material or getting good loot), so they may choose to abandon you if things get too rough. Certain Inquisitors may decide to hire them in the event that they need plausible deniability or if they are working outside Imperial controlled space and need some muscle, but it's generally frowned upon by most of the Imperium.
Eldar or Tau may decide to ally with humanity against a bigger threat like Chaos or Tyranids, but Eldar will ultimately pursue their own objectives while Tau still want you to surrender to the Greater Good, so the alliances are always temporary.

In the context of shopclick, it doesn't really make sense for the warband to go about their way to hire xenos especially when they can't pay them; Kroot can't eat Nurgle infested shit while the AdMech will throw a fit if the Inquisition lets Orks loot their shit as payment. Eldar have too few bodies to throw into a meatgrinder, and the arrogant spess elves wouldn't sacrifice themselves for mon'keigh if they can help it.

>>532297252
Even doe they will be the new enemies >>532297687
Even doe Kayex would never approve

>>532294285
I play at 4k the cpu barely matters in most games so seethe nigger I will enjoy my 9800x3d and you can cry about some other random shit

Explain to me the purpose of psyker electric staff.

>>532310515
zap kills elites good
m1 has more crit chance than other staves

>>532310515
Good for farming Melk because it's easy to get kill credits with
Good damage against maniacs and armor when built for it
Synergizes well with scier's gaze letting you zap things indefinitely
Has a stun attached to it, letting you deal with smaller blobs of armor
Can build into primary for a decently effective build

Kinda falls of a good bit into certain maelstrom modifiers, and obviously doesn't compete in havoc because its number of targets never scales

>>532310515
smite but actually kills things

>>532310515
Electrokinetic staff makes the blaze bolt go pew pew pew, and better than any gun.

>>532311993
Remember when the electro staff was a smite staff?

>>532312757
No it wasn't it was "surge" staff.

>>532302613
this one actually annoyed me, take your (you)

>>532313116
It used to function like smite before smite was a thing

>>532293629
do a normal heavy hitter build with steady grip at the top, use achlys heavy stubber (the good one) maniac and unyielding/flak, and surgical + opening salvo. Hstubber doesn't need any build support and is kinda shit on any right side tree build

>>532313479
The +10% ranged damage +50% crit damage is pretty good but rarely worth it

Every time I use the IAGs, I'm reminded of how mediocre they are in actual games. It's so fucking disappointing

>>532314976
Perfectly good in aurics

Ive just seen you guys argue about the electro staff. What is the dump stat on it, warp resistance? Also how do i build it when i only want to use the heavies without the normals?

Both of arbitese's new melee weapons are S tier

>>532276583
You don't. It's a waste of your time and energy. If someone cannot sit down and be ok with games having no hard "meta", and NOT just default to pissing and moaning.

Well then I dunno.

>>532315739
It's perfectly mediocre, yes. They're nice close up, but for anything farther than like 15 meters, they range from unimpressive to bad, and with the amount of explosions and CC going out these days in most games, even their close range abilities don't shine because stuff gets knocked out of or away from decent head lineups all the time. The number of times I've had a good setup to mow down rager packs only for them all to get sent flying with their heads in boxes or walls or just generally too spread out to kill in decent succession are too many to count. The autoguns are fine, but they aren't great. The game doesn't play in a manner that lets them shine most of the time.

>>532318202
Get better at aiming and managing recoil. There is a good reason why we have all been calling the vraks AIG OP ever since it got buffed

>>532318414
>hur dur skill issue
You're retarded. My aim and recoil control have nothing to do with the fact that shit is getting pushed into objects that block headshots or pushed to the ground amidst a horde that'll block the bullets. The only time either of those plays a factor is hitting headshots consistently at range, where the gun suffers from damage falloff and/or hitreg issues because it's been 3 years, and the game still has a problem registering headshots on moving enemies. Fucking drooler.

>>532318074
nuh uh the shield+maul is only A++++ tier

>>532319124
Yes. It is unironically a skill issue and you are nowhere as good as you think you are

Fucking retarded shitter

>>532293595
If they did a thing between Rogue Trader and Darktide for Arbiites, I can see one for Dark Heresy and say, the Kroot.

>>532319361
Good argument, dipshit. There're a million guns in this game that'll one-shot stuff, but you think the gun that bounces around and takes multiple headshots to kill anything (making it hard to use well for the common moron) is OP. It's mediocre. The gun performs well under ideal circumstances and decently or poorly otherwise. Cry about it.

>>532319610
>fire a burst at pretty much any enemy's chest and they die
>WAH WAH I KEEP SHOOTING OVER ENEMY'S HEADS SO IT SUCKS
Jfc you are a complete and utter fucking mongoloid and you are in no position to be telling players who are much better than you whether the AIG is good or not

tell me you suck ass without telling me you suck ass >>532314976

>>532319785
>>532319945
>fire a burst at pretty much any enemy's chest and they die
You don't even play the game lmao. It takes ages to kill even flamers with torso shots. Why the fuck did you think I was exclusively talking about headshotting? It's the only way the weapon functions well against half the enemies in the game. Surely you aren't shooting chaff with it, right?
>eternal strawmanning while ignoring every single issue I've pointed out
Here's your last (you) from me, triggered samefag. Your raifu is just okay. Stay mad

>>532319124
try aiming lower retard

>>532320056
I still kill flamers in a split second of firing
Try using the actual good mark and remove any tumors that you likely have in your brain

>>532293629
Crouch, aim in the general direction, and to very short bursts of fire. If you don't kill him, you suppress him for others.

And don't forget to at least tag him for the team.

>>532320548
That's the twin stubber, not heavy stubber

>>532320332
Yes, and in that split second, you shot it a dozen times. Enjoy constantly reloading

Why rolling steel attracts so many smiggers? I mean I'm one of them but still

>>532320826
The more you post the more retarded you sound. I figure you could kill 10 flamers in a single magazine before having to suffer doing a single fast reload before you can kill 10 more

>>532320621
I thought I read it wrong. I mean you're holding a .50 Rifle. Just use the one with most damage, aim and click.

Even then same at what I said. general direction, take a few shots, hope they connect.

>>532321068
That's around how many shots it takes without critting and without weapon buffs running. You probably could get close to 10 if you shot stuff in the face and let the buffs stack though. But since my point was that you don't want to be torso-shotting stuff, you dishonest fucking faggot, it's obvious that spending a fifth of your magazine to kill one flamer is retarded. Hence the problem with its spotty performance in actual games and not just the Meat Grinder. If you weren't some theorycrafting faggot who doesn't play the game, you'd notice that the gun gets mogged by a huge number of the other weapons in the game, hence its mediocrity. Even the semi-auto Headhunter shits all over it outside of Rager packs, and I don't even remember the last time I saw somebody else run that.

Darktide bores me, Killing Floor 3 will save /coopg/

>>532321496
Yeah yeah yeah. Fuck off and kill yourself, you whiny little retard sperg. Nothing good ever comes out of trying to convince dogshit players like you that you really are just a dogshit fucking mongoloid who's only struggling because you suck ass because your ego won't allow it to sink in

>>532321824
>still no argument against the fact that the gun doesn't operate too well outside of its ideal circumstances and falls behind a large portion of the roster
lmao

If the vraks aig is bad because it doesn't kill flamers fast enough, then the bolter is really terrible because it does it even slower
Now instead of theorycrafting, you go and pull out the bolter once for each flamer, shoot it once or twice and factor in one of the slowest reloads in the game, you can safely say that the bolter is even worse than the vraks aig

>>532322035
"I'm not good enough to use one of the most powerful weapons in the game" and "i don't have the skill to kill flamers as fast as i want to" are not exactly stellar arguments. Again, this is your ego telling yourself that your retarded statements were actual solid facts that can only be challenged by the most rigerous and thorough arguments and refutations

It's very obvious from your posts that you are very unintelligent and that's really all i need to explain why you struggle so badly with such a strong weapon

>>532322732
>Strawman strawman strawman
l m a o

>I HAVE TO RELOAD AFTER KILLING ONLY 10 FLAMERS WTF THIS GUN SUCKS WAH WAH WAH
Ok? Then just reload, you fucking retard

i cant get into psyker
none of the staves are fun and he is made out of paper

>>532323156
All out of steam? I would be too if i got btfo'd as hard as you just did

Your concession has been accepted. Try not to make yourself look like such a retarded sperg in the future. It's really embarrassing

>>532323157
>anon didn't get a reply for 5 minutes and had to strawman and ad hominem again
>calling others unintelligent despite not being capable of reading or responding to people's actual words
Keep at it, anon

>>532323326
>Keep at it
Why should i kick him when he's already down?

>>532323305
>accepting concessions despite doing nothing but avoiding actual discussion from the very onset
Peak irony

>>532323497
Don't flatter yourself by thinking that you ever offer a solid standard for a weapon's quality. All you did was whine about it not fitting your arbitrary standard based on your inability to kill flamers fast enough

>>532323675
>more strawmanning

>>532323726
>make terrible arguments
>call it strawmanning when someone describes your arguments in an honest manner
Now you're just trying to punish me for dunking on you by wasting my time and annoying me

One of the most OP busted guns in the game is bad because *checks notes* some retard can't kill flamers fast enough and he sometimes has to reload?

>>532324018
Anon, you've hardly even responded to my actual comments on the gun's failings a single time. You pretty much just namecall, make shit up, or twist things I've said into other shit you've made up. Why lie about it? It's here for all to see. You aping about whatever retarded notion you want to ape about doesn't change the fact that while the gun performs very well under ideal circumstances, those circumstances often go disrupted from teammates playing well, and in the circumstances unfavorable to it, it often performs poorly due to the nature of needing sustained damage (and having to avoid incoming damage at the same time) as well as its damage falloff and poor body damage-per-shot. None of this has been contradicted. Most other guns don't have these problems and instead outshine the IAG in most cases because they're good in many more scenarios.

>Only the Death Guard and chaos champions have no pain Nurgle's blessing
>The rest just get "Yeah, I'm sick as fuck but won't die of diseases" if they're lucky enough

>>532324306
>kills dreg rager hordes faster than bolter while having faster pullout speeds
>one of the best ammo economies in the game
>can kills monsters faster than the bolter in many situations
>kills anything at medium range almost instantly
>fast reload
>decent mobility
>better than pretty much any gun when you need to kill a lot of specialists in overwhelming situations
This all takes a certain level of skill which you will probably never achieve, but try putting your autism aside so you can apply some theory of mind for more skilled and intelligent players

>>532321015
It’s super useful for stalling enemies while your team completes the objectives. That goes for just about any mission but rolling steel especially.

Aurics are so fucking easy. Baby shit mode.

>>532325207
Now imagine how much of a shitter you have to be to be unable to effectively use the OP vraks AIG in aurics

>>532324550
Specifically, you also won’t be turned into a Poxwalker, since I think he exempts you if you hand yourself over to him

>>532325297
>OP vraks AIG
If it was OP it'd be useable in havoc 40. It's just okay.

>>532319124
>>532324306
>You're retarded.
>fucking drooler
Btw. This is the cum slurping mongoloid bitch who was sperging out about muh strawmen and namecalling

Don't dish it out if you can't take it, pipsqueak

>>532325371
>Specifically, you also won’t be turned into a Poxwalker, since I think he exempts you if you hand yourself over to him
Yeah, I almost forgot the poxwalker/plaguebearer blackmail deal

I'm not reading anything, what are those two women blathering on about?

>>532326149
Some retarded shitter isn't skilled enough to effectively use the vraks AIG and a more skilled and intelligent player just dunked on his ass

>>532326149

>>532326149
one person is saying a weapon isn't powerful enough because it's not havoc meta
the other person is saying it's good in aurics
both are retarded for different reasons

I used to use the vraks (formerly columnus) on my zealot all the time because of its unparalleled ability to take out specials during active melee combat

>>532327576
>unparalleled ability to take out specials during active melee combat
Bro, your bolt pistol?

>>532316395
What are the "diamonds rewards" in Darkite exactly?

>>532327663
Better at longer ranges, but i would rather have the blue gun (currently vraks (formerly columnus))

care to do me a favor and mark on this tree the skills that are must have, good and total bullshit?
Im not quite sure about the dog skills so i went with every defensive skill possible

>>532328105
Sure, but stop spouting bullshit.
The #1 gun for seamlessly weaving into melee combat and taking out specials with, is the revolver because of its swap blessing. The bolt pistol is better overall because it does all of the important things (don't shoot crushers, retard), has better reloads, and also effortlessly rapes monstrosities with puncture.

>>532328329

>>532327152
So two autistic sweaties having a cock measuring contest? Thanks.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f0508fd-71f3-4fae-bb6d-c67eb86c0e23/universal-screen-mulch-achlys-twin-stubber

I have a new favorite Ogryn build.

>>532328414
>stop spouting bullshit
Just say you disagree if you disagree. I am speaking from 2.3k hours of experience and have reached a different conclusion than you have
>The #1 gun for seamlessly weaving into melee combat and taking out specials with, is the revolver because of its swap blessing
Until your 5 shots are done. The vraks is massively better suited for prolonged fighting
>The bolt pistol is better overall because it does all of the important things
It is significantly better than the revolver. You can tell because even shitters can keep firing the bolt pistol during combat whereas revolver players go completely silent after their 5th shot is done (probably why barely anyone uses the revolver any more)

Pretty sure the vraks still kills every single monster faster according to my last tests

>>532329414
>2.3k hours
Yeah and havoc level 20, why are you talking?

>>532329337
You can safely skip the crit on the stubber because you will never feel it
>>532329465
Because i'm better than you

>>532329709
>X meme gun is better
>it's true because I'm a better player
>source: trust me bro
>can't break havoc 30 and doesn't have true survivor
Yeah okay retard.

>>532329817
You really took that one personally, huh?
Go scream into a pillow or something. I have very little patience for obnoxious retards

Can’t decide if I like the purifier or scorcher more
Also what attachment should I throw on the purifier

>>532330994
What the fuck does that have to do with darktide?

>>532328329
It's really hard to generalize this across multiple different builds.
A lot of yellow damage nodes are yellow because they're just additive damage, and thus don't math well in a tree that already stacks heaps of additive damage. Yes, this includes the damage aura. It's nowhere near as good as (You) might think.
Big fat yellow on Castigator Stance because I think it's massively overrated. Its defensive uses are a crutch for bad players, and its offensive uses are pointless compared to the permanent 25% strength you can get out of Arbites Vigilant by using BTL.
Yellow nodes are still good, but as the image says, situational. Some builds might really want them, but if you can swap them for blues, your build will usually be better.
I was tempted to give yellow to Lone Wolf, but while I do think it's grossly overrated, it's still extremely strong because shock mines are broken as fuck and arguably stronger than the dog. The other dog keystones kinda suck.
Dog is strong, remote detonation is... okay. Likely better off running mines anyway for safety's sake.
Even some greens are situational-ish. Force of Will and Concussive really want to be used together. Rebreather is directly between S-tier and skip, but leaving a point in it out of laziness is perfectly fine with how strong it is when you need it.
Not all reds are actually useless, they're just rarely even worth the point compared to literally everything else.

>inb4 muh damage nodes
Looking forward to countless (You)s from 100 hour piggers who got carried into auric by their OP class but remain clueless as to the talent tree's math, don't know how to play the class, and have never actually tested how certain skills impact their build.

>>532330994
Purifier has probably the best ammo economy in the game. Scorcher eats through ammo quickly.
With scorcher you run supply pack. Purifier is for when you're not running supply pack. Both are S tier

Anytime I go down, my team instantly wipes... how to get carried, I must learn.

>>532331716
Play taunt ogryn because they don't go down

>>532331963
>make a single mistake over the course of a 20 minute game and get netted
>nobody so much as looks at you
>at best they rush the trapper, then get overwhelmed by 3 poxwalkers
>instantly wipe

So here's a question. What is the most FUN Psyker build? Not "Meta", just fun.

>>532332235
Empowered psionics
Brain burst with double wall (or bubble if you prefer the safety) and flame staff as a horde clear fallback and for bosses, or assail with scrier's gaze and shock staff because it makes for a really fun combo.

Pure melee with greatsword is quite a lot of fun, but really hard to do well as with how squishy psyker is.

>>532332186
You're assuming alot. Most the times my team get's me up.

>>532332235
Voidblast is both meta and fun.

>>532332186
Yep. Trappers are more silent now than at any other point that i can recall. If i didn't have spidey sense then there would be nothing to go by except that sound of their net gun charging

>>532332423
>>532332449
anything with Smite?

Mostly because I used to run a build a year ago with it and loved using it on horde because I always imagine this:

https://youtu.be/BHN460A6T8U?t=13

>>532332235
If you're confident in your ability to not die instantly, Force Greatsword Scriers with disrupt destiny.
Take a recon lasgun to keep yourself in active scriers as long as possible, it procs infernus every hit, has good boss damage and has really good ammo economy so you're not dumping the entire maps reserve unless you're being looger levels of retard.
Take the lingering protection from scriers so you don't blow up when you hit cap so you can throw out daggers with max damage boost and crit. All of the added bonuses give you a hefty speed boost so greatsword doesn't feel immobile when it actually counts, as they all proc while you're actually in combat, and the shove is one of the strongest in the game so even big rager packs aren't a death sentence.
It's the only shit I run in aurics now as a psyker

>>532332704
Sure. Any generic build that has absolutely zero use for brain blast and just puts a single point in Smite for pathing, which you then exclusively use to hold dense packs of armor in place, or help with objectives/revives in emergencies.
Smite is anti-fun because all you do is hold the button down and maybe occasionally dodge around. It can be extremely strong with the right build, and EP smite is actually good, but you'll actively suck the fun out of the game for yourself and everyone else.

>>532332891
haha, zap zap

>>532332891
You're just saying this because you were told to by what you assume are much better players than you.
Smite is more than fine in havoc 40 and no one will complain. If you're not good enough for havoc 40 then it's the same in lower difficulties. We only complained about smite in the past because auric was the hardest mode (it's easy as fuck. auric is baby mode) and trivializing it even further made it unfun.

>>532332858
Forgot to mention this is predominantly a melee build, you're going to be using greatsword most of the time. Play it like a zealot, don't make the mistake of seeing "gunpsyker" and use your gun for most of the game like a retard.

>>532333068
Just get a smitebites

>>532333068
>You're just saying this because
anon asked for fun not "meta" builds.
My answer has nothing to do with havoc, besides saying that EP smite is actually good, schizo. And even then, actually good smite builds are still kinda boring in havoc 40.

>>532331238
spot on. I agree with almost everything you posted but the stance and that the dog is worth less than regen on mines. I think its more of a personal preference at this point because all 3 skills are really good imo and dog vs mine is also you either have like 20 percent less damage recieved over the entire match or 0 damage in specific situations. At least, thats how i view it. Thanks for your input that was fun

>>532333209
>I find smite fun
>erm you're not allowed to have fun like that!
>you're ruining the fun of other shitters!
Shut the fuck up spergoid.

>>532333547
It's not exactly a hot take that builds focused around using smite as often as possible are not only boring to play, but also boring to play with, retard. You're allowed to enjoy it, but actually good players will rarely enjoy playing with you.
Unless it's literally the only thing carrying you because you're bad at the game, it'll quickly lose its novelty after a handful of games because it's neither particularly interactive, nor interesting.

Now watch me skibidi
Now watch me smiting
Now watch me skib-skib
Now watch me smiting

Skibidi psyker in the house y'all

>>532331238
also to add on a bit the ability that lets you tank 1 or 2 crusher hits is imo s tier. its so imbalanced i wonder why it doesnt have a cooldown because getting toughness back is a nonissue.
Also i partially disagree that toughness on block is bad. Especially in situations where you are under heavy fire and shielded up it really shines but i see how its worthless for someone using something else but a shield.
rebreather is strong, makes you immune to gas if you have the dog trait that regens stamina near it. pretty broken in very specific situations but better safe than sorry.. if feel the rest is whatever on the tree, like damage reduction or damage against ogryn like i dont care i take it because im out of toughness regen nodes

>nets the party ogryn behind a gaggle of crushers causing the spiral of collapse that breaks your team

>>532331238
Why is the node that gives dog more damage against melee targets a red one?

>>532332704
Here you go. These builds are more or less fine. You've got all the good perks. Feel free to change the weapons/curios completely if you want to.
All the smite hate is coming from back in the day when auric was the hardest difficulty and we didn't want it to be trivialized even further by strong CC (auric is easy as fuck for good players). But now that's not really a valid complaint because we have havoc 40 where strong CC like smite, shock mines and chorus are very common.
If you like smite you can keep using it all the way up to havoc 40. Only shitters who can't form their own opinions and are following hate bandwagons that left a long time ago.

>>532334045
>BOOM
>hits they ass with a shield flash
>tosses a smite mine
>safely rezzes the ogryn
>winks at the camera

>>532333860
True Grit is very strong, but I wouldn't give it an automatic S-tier. It doesn't carry or enable a build, and it won't stop a shit player from dying anyway. Compare that to the retarded amounts of damage stacking between crit, soulguilt, Target the Weak and Arbites Vigilant together in the same build, all of which are S-tier nodes.
Shield Plates is only actually useful with the shield, and then you're likely in a situation where you can just flashbang the enemy to get into melee and regain your toughness that way. Or get close enough to BTL, etc. There will almost always be better uses for the skill point you're putting into it.
I always take Rebreather.
Monstrosity Hunter and Keeping Protocol are both mathematically bad. The damage is additive on top of your already massive amounts of additive damage so they're not mathematically better than other nodes when accounting for the point tax, and KP's resistance is applied in a really weird way (and also why the fuck do you need monster damage resist?)

>>532334128
The only damage node the dog needs is Volatic Mandibles, and if you want more, you just take Razor-Jaw. Making your dog target elites and specials isn't explicitly bad, but it's never worth the point you could instead put into better talents, and the damage is literally pointless.

>>532330994
Purifier on bots, scorcher on squids and bugs
Idk about attachments, I haven't played for 3 months

>>532334453
They barely get any attachments anyway.

>>532334423
cant argue with anything youve just said.

Care to post an example buld that is build for tankiness?
I mean, just taking the s nodes and build around it should be possible for me but im interested in seeing what an actual build looks like.

>>532334145
Thanks anon

>>532335205
This is what I run with dog. Lone Wolf would obviously look very similar and just move some nodes around to take Breaking Dissent and the other resist nodes.
Flexible nodes include Adamant Will, Man and Cyber-Mastiff (I like them because they make objectives much easier) and Rebreather (I hate micro managing my build so I just keep it in).
Remote Detonation is obviously fine to run, shock mines lose a ton of value without Lone Wolf, but still allow for clutch revives you otherwise wouldn't get. This might be different with revive speed curios, but I prefer block efficiency in the last slot.

>>532335653
kino, thank you

>>532334045
>Fetch

>>532331238
Looks pretty on point.
Unless there's something I'm missing with it, I'd put Concussive under situational just because Arbites gets so much impact and they have so many high-impact sexual violence weapons that it may only really be bringing benefit against bosses.
>all the damage nodes
I really wish there was an easy way to calculate breakpoints because I'm too fucking lazy to bother with that shit anymore. I just grab what I need, grab what I want, grab multiplicative damage, and then fill with additive, but I never bother to check anymore whether it's too much or just shy of enough to hit some obscure breakpoint. It's not like it really matters anyway.

>>532334423
>Shield Plates is only actually useful with the shield, and then you're likely in a situation where you can just flashbang the enemy to get into melee and regain your toughness that way
Not to mention that in situations where you're blocking to get toughness, you'll still be getting toughness from Walk it Off as well.

>>532336053
>Unless there's something I'm missing with it, I'd put Concussive under situational
I think it's worth keeping in green just for its direct synergy with Force of Will guaranteeing you can always get +10% toughness per attack (assuming you can fucking aim). It also improves your time to kill on crushers, and I believe there are some cleave related interactions whose breakpoints I don't remember anymore. I'd say it's fine to get rid of Concussive, but it's so strong, in so many situations, that I wouldn't really want to remove it from most builds.
Might look different if you're using Rashad I guess, or doing some 1-2-shot memes with the big maul, but I'd consider THOSE to be more situational than Concussive.

>>532335965
Princess the nanny dog

>>532336340
I could've sworn I tested M&S and Shock Maul and they were both staggering Crushers in a hit or two without even having Forceful stacks or anything. I'd have to go and refresh my memory on that though. It's whatever. If I'm going down to stagger damage, I'll be running concussive anyway just to get the better defensive, so I never worry about it that much.

>>532332704
I made this build like 3 days ago. It's probably as far as smite can go, it's smite, it will never be top tier. I did not try to minmax it hence meme nodes like enfeeble and charged strike. My goal wasn't to make a build with smite, my goal was a smite build.
If you get a team with no arbites they will play around your smite, if you get arbites they just don't care because they kill crushers in 2 hits and they don't consider them a threat.
I really want to play devil's claw with this build but it can't kill crushers and if you get arbites on your team they will just ignore electrocuted crushers and be on their way because that's how they are. Actually I was playing it with devils claw all this time and only switched to GS right now
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f74d8c7-c876-443b-b70c-e60eb0bd038a/smiker-2
it's kinda convenient that after you finish smiting you are at 100% peril and can immediately start blasting with lasgun

>>532336748
>and they were both staggering Crushers in a hit or two
Yeah but you're assuming a theorycraft scenario where you 100 to 0 the crusher in a single string of attacks. In a real game, there is a really good chance you'll have downtime between hits you can get on the crusher, and it won't always be staggered. Concussive has the offensive benefit of always counting it as staggered for your damage and rending blessings, talents, etc. so it still performs better against them overall.
And that's on top of the defensive benefit of always triggering the 10% toughness, among other niche scenarios like running gun blessings that work better on staggered targets.

No sure if i like grenades or smite mines for my
Bolter Arbites (Shields) (Fast for a dwarf)

is VT1 worth it if I will just play solo? I love VT2 and VT1 is really cheap right now

>>532337626
Just play darktide

>>532337643
Serious answers only

>>532337456
>not taking Blasting Charges
that's a grudgin'

>>532337456
Shock mines are just objectively better but if they didn't exist everyone would be talking about how good the impact grenades are. They're often overlooked because of just how much better shock mine is but they're still really fucking great for staggering. You get 5 of them and 1 every 60 seconds. They can stagger large groups of elites and bosses. I usually run impact grenades because shock mine feels inconvenient to use a lot of the time.
BTL + flashbang shield + impact grenades is just stun heaven. I BTL to stagger the elite conga line then flash twice and by that point BTL is off cooldown. If somehow we still haven't killed the elite horde with 4 stuns I whip out the impact grenades. I carry the fuck out of h40 like this.

>>532337626
im really not sure. it was incredibly dead and the gameplay is very minimal compared to vt2. there's no careers

>>532337742
You should SERIOUSLY just play darktide

>>532337742
he is serious; Darktide is VT3, effectively.
I love Vermintide too, but V1 is just V2 with less content
just play shopslop, it has the best gameplay, but no Kroobersreik 5 sadly

>>532337159
>Yeah but you're assuming a theorycraft scenario where you 100 to 0 the crusher in a single string of attacks
Most of the talents that matter trigger on staggering hits, and whether or not the enemy you're hitting is presently staggered doesn't matter (excepting that rending talent, I can't think of any others). It's mostly just weapon blessings that matter for hitting staggered enemies rather than causing stagger. I wasn't thinking of those though, so that's fair. The gun blessings are rather niche, but High Voltage, Opportunist, or whatever the melee version of damage to staggered is are all very good. And since Arby causes shock (or at least a 0 damage version of shock that allows HV to trigger) on stagger, it's much more important for melee. Unless they patched that weird interaction out, and I haven't noticed yet because I've been back playing other classes for the most part.
>And that's on top of the defensive benefit of always triggering the 10% toughness
Right, but if all your hits cause stagger without Concussive, it doesn't matter because you'll be getting that anyway. The weapon blessings are the main thing if you're running a high-stagger weapon and/or a weapon that staggers decently alongside lots of +impact talents.

>>532337825
They also do a pretty fair amount of damage. You can clear out a lot of softer elites in a pack by throwing two impacts. My Tac Axe LW+Impact+BTL build has been a ton of fucking fun, and I can't wait for them to finally fix EO so I can go back to that and get my crit bonuses.

>>532293981
>all it takes is them being convinced that you would make a good fight to turn on you
>teammate gets too high kill per second
>good fight passive kicks in and you start doing friendly fire

>>532338089
Pay attention to the modifier though. If it's final toll you should definitely pick shock mine. I made the mistakes of throwing all my impact grenades into a horde of crushers/bulwarks and just ended up enraging them all (they all healed to 100% health in an instant because encroaching garden)

>>532337918
Arbites is just a better footknight anyway

>>532338247
kek. Good point. That fucking SUCKS, m8. I always end up feeling like a retarded asshole when I do shit like that.

>>532305931
No, they added a new difficulty unlock. So you need to do a bunch of malice to get heresy, a bunch of heresy to get damnation, and iirc the maelstrom missions is damnation and up only.

zealot, grail knight, shade, handmaiden, witch hunter captain, warrior priest of sigmar, and slayer are all more fun zealots than zealots are in darktide. outcast engineer, waystalker, ranger veteran, bounty hunter, mercenary, and huntsman are all better veterans than darktide's guard veteran. iron breaker, foot knight, warrior priest of sigmar (round 2), and handmaiden are all better ogryns than ogryns are in darktide.i dont play sienna because i dont like fire (i unironically burned my finger last week and im scared of it now) but she's probably a better psyker than the psyker is.

>>532337918
I've already played all of VT2 though so isn't VT1 just more content

>>532338571
basically the entirety of vt1 exists within vt2 actually.

>>532338523
-Nobody Ever. 23/07 2025

>>532338790
i am sincere

VT2 with darktide's talent trees would be peak click kino

>>532339495
Sincere? Never heard of you

>>532338523
The main problem is the weapon selection. A lot of DT's melee weapons don't feel great, particularly chain weapons.
>oh boy, my foam box sword/axe that is particularly difficult to use well in high-level content with lots of mass and lots of elites (axe less so)
Meanwhile you get incredibly satisfying VT2 weapons like the Executioner's Sword, Bret Sword, Falchion, Mace and Sword

Not that DT doesn't have satisfying weapons, but they don't stand out as much, and some are still a little clunky (For instance, some of the delays with Heavy Sword wind-ups feel off to me for some reason, and I can't put my finger on why)

>>532339536
Don't worry. You'll get that in VT 3 about 5 to 7 years after DT 2

Thank G-d that they kicked out the shitty verminturd combat director

Skibitari will have a power halberd and the outcast engineer ability

>>532340701
we will NEVER get skibitari anon im sorry

>>532340810
2 more quarters
Trust the plan

>>532338523
but what about arbites

>>532341556
we will NEVER get arbites anon im sorry

>>532156627 (OP)
am i seeing this right? did he do 3 times as much damage as the rest?

>>532342841
Yep. It helps when you aren't dead for half of the mission

>>532340810
This but because we’re getting a Tech Priest instead

When the k*rk are we getting a turret class?

>>532345417
I want to say that's ridiculous, but I guess the dog already paves the way for autonomous companions doing like 1/6th of your total damage while providing utility

>>532346401
That is perfectly rational
>heavy turret
>light turret
>defensive
>long lasting turrets
>brief but powerful turrets
>turret target priority

>>532345417
Ad mech with autonomous mechadendrites soon

>>532347084
>autonomous mechadendrites
Finally. Backstab immunity

>>532347084
>wasting mechanical parts on f*moid
imperium is not very smart

>>532347921
How many rejections does a man need to turn out like this?

>>532348482
About 40,000

>>532348846
Bazinga

>>532348846
>womanhater 40k...

>>532348482
>t. pegged by dukane

>>532316395
I tapped out after 300 until they fixed the dogshit crafting system.

>>532327756
finishing hormone therapy

>>532319124
>>532318202
There's a reason why few people use them.
They get considerably more accurate if you use executioner stance.

>>532339789
Not only that but a lot of DT melee just straight up sucks and are not viable in high level play, especially for Veteran who gets close to 0 melee buffs

>Veteran who gets close to 0 melee buffs

>>532348482
notice how fags like this don't mention lack of success, they mention rejection. Anyone who posts like this is an abject pussy deathly afraid of failure or conflict so they never even try and take pride in it

why do our thread browns (who are also confirmed to be hardstuck in auric) project so hard?

>>532353286
That's mostly just Havoc where many weapons just fall off
>Veteran buffs
30% weakspot
15% base elites
20% ogryns/monsters
Focus Target
Weapon Spec
Crit on Dodge
Melee crit & finesse
Melee attack speed
Bleed on melee
Agile Engagement
all the meme minor additive damage bonuses that last like 5 sec and trigger on ability use
Probably something else I'm not remembering. Also most of the toughness regen nodes work with melee too

Vet gets a lot of melee buffs

>>532354523
He can only get about half of those in any one build
The best melee buffs are on the right side of the tree and even then they're nothing special compared to every other class

>>532354814
this opens up the question of what farshark wants to do with veteran. How good should he be in melee by default? If he gets too powerful, why bring zealots when you can have a vealot with ammo aura and free grenades?

>>532353515
I really struck a nerve

>>532353515
i'm sure you ask every woman you see for bobs and vagane

>>532305931
Did you seriously just level to 30 on Uprising?

>>532355078
He's supposed to be the ranged specialist, but they were retarded and went and gave him one "hybrid" keystone path that buffs nothing but his melee, and then gives the most meaningless and minor buffs to his guns, because swedes are retarded.

>>532305931
Anon are you ok?

>>532297965
Maelstrom is only for Heresy and Auric difficulty.
That's difficulty 3 and 5 respectively. You need to play more Malice to unlock Heresy.

>>532354814
That doesn't change the fact that I was refuting:
>Veteran who gets close to 0 melee buffs
>close to 0 melee buffs

>>532355078
He's already fine. He has strong melee attacks but less built in defenses and mobility and worse stamina management than Zealot. For a generalist class, they've done a good job.

>>532355889
>generalist class
every class is generalist by definition you retard. he's very clearly the ranged class, they've just done a shit job with his tree

>>532337626
You should play it. Its a lot slower and methodical than VT2. The maps have better lighting and overall its got a better atmosphere. Highly recommend going through the maps at least once. Some absolute bangers that never got ported. Supply&Demand, Ram the Manparts, and whatever the beastmen teasing river map was.

>>532337626
Yes but you NEED the mod that improves bots. Bots are Darktide-tier in VT1, you simply will not win with them, and there are no humans queueing for games.

Its baffling how varied and interesting the maps are in Vermintides compared to Darktide. How can you go from varied biomes and terrain to just nothing but grey/red bland corridors.
Hell, even the most recent additions to VT2 have much more variance and memorable locations within themselves than the entirety of Darktide.

>lvl 1300 knife vet gets barreled
>leaves
>2 arbiteses die
>leave
>no one gets replaced for the rest of the mission
Is it just me or is it getting increasingly harder to get replacements for your bots? Maybe the new mission board is affecting it

>>532357231
oh look it's this post again

>>532357243
why do you always play as a woman

>>532357307
My main is a guy

>>532357243
matchmaking is jank now due to campaign missions sucking up all the quickplayers

>>532357291
Oh sorry, let me instead post something more general and palatable
>team unga
>me bunga
Happy?

>>532357243
Just look at him. A walking red flag
>>532357375
That must be it

>>532357231
>why doesn't the hive city have treeslop?
the art direction is good, you're just looking at it through a retarded lens

>>532357391
>>team unga
>>me bunga
oh anon

>>532357243
>using health station 2 times
>on arbites none the less
Shitter