Thread 532364141

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And a friendly reminder to ignore schizo threads and just bake new proper ones.

Hey :)

TENKA MUNI

>go 1-6 trying to get my 50th win with face dragon
>6-1 now that i switched to aggro abyss

can anyone hop on the guild lounge? i need help finishing the bingo, im skipping /svg/ btw

>spends the whole minute thinking
>"I'm sure to win thanks to my superior technology"

I love being a doll fucker

Former sv pro on the state of the game

>>532364469
>all the decks are good they just haven't been figured out haha :) *coin lumi lumi valse zirconias*

Thoughts?

use my code please
atF5HYN
pic not related, I'm not a swordtard

>>532364563
Show him your kung fu.

I want every poster who said sword was going to be shit before the set dropped lined up for "brain correction"

>>532364614
>please sukagames don't nerf rune
rate this translation

>>532364316
WB turned out garbage, where the fuck is Champion's Battle Flame

-3 -3 -3

Has sword ever been nerfed in SV1? Or does KMR usually just let it run rampant whenever it's oppressive and warps the entire meta around itself like now?

>>532364614
>royal is the only option guys
>mained roach and then switched to rune

Really makes you think

>>532359091
Sorry, fell asleep.

>>532364141 (OP)
I hope she wins the rune leader poll

>>532364651
>pic not related, I'm not a swordtard
That is why you are poor.
Royals don't need handouts.

They should nerf albert to 2/5

>no golds in at least 5 last packs
cygenerous

>>532364640
looks like shit

>>532364801
sword has been nerfed 13 times in sv1

>>532364349
titania

Who do I need to pay to play forest and not be miserable? Just wait for sword to get nerfed?

>>532364614
he's right but his dear petdeck for trannies needs to be deleted too

>>532365161
Try playing an actual miserable deck like dragon

How to fix the meta:
Valse's fanfare deals 3 damage without the enhance, still 5 with enhance.
Gildaria's free evo is a regular evo, not a sevo.
Amelia only recovers 2pp, not 3.
These three changes will both weaken sword's easy ways to out early problems and lategame bullshit.

Remove spellboost from A&G, she's an insane tempo card even without it, and it's called spellboost, not followerboost.
Add a countdown to the onion crest.
These two changes will make it impossible to splash dirt in spellboost and make spellboost more vulnerable to disruption.

Guess which craft(s) I play from my nerf suggestions, /svg/.

>>532364141 (OP)
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>>532365389
sounds retarded

>>532364984
So true

>I play ramp
brick and die
>they play ramp
PERFECT HAND EVERY FUCKING TIME

>>532365389
Rune because Kuon still has Spellboost 5. ICONIC. I love how everyone else got about their release/DE cards but slightly stronger than Kuon gets his best version and Anne and Grea too.

>>532364651
Chu ~<3

>>532365389
Do you want spellboost to become unplayable?

Be a good person

>>532365161
Sword is literally forests easiest top tier match since Sword units have low health and when you do damage to sword it actually sticks.

Forest is just getting assfucked by portal and rune who have endless pressure and healing

>>532365593
Yes

>>532364801
Every class has been nerfed in sv1. Every class has wrapped the meta around itself in sv1. This situation is nothing different. As late as the last expansion there were decks that completely shat on everyone that went unnerfed.

>>532365634
Based.

>>532365389
>Guess which craft(s) I play from my nerf suggestions, /svg/
I assume one of the control decks because they are the only ones living to see Gildaria's autoevo or the full value of 8+ onions

>>532365593
oh no, spellboost has to use spells to boost

>>532365623
You don't have enough fairies up your ass to clear a single luminous what the fuck are you on about?

>>532365593
I want it to be a meme gambling deck like Ho-chan dragon that does not see serious competitive play.
>>532365539
I only play rune meme decks, I avoid playing any competitively viable rune deck, and it's not my main craft.

>>532364601
Post d*ck.

Reflection poll
Why are you stuck in emerald/topaz/ruby/sapphire?

https://poal.me/pi2op2
https://poal.me/pi2op2
https://poal.me/pi2op2

>>532364946
Mulligan?

Thoughts on this list, abyssbros?

>>532365389
with the current rune dragonbabs can kill them, right now sword is too flexible to make any other fucking decks work

>>532365683
>I assume one of the control decks because they are the only ones living to see Gildaria's autoevo or the full value of 8+ onions
Correct, I main CAbyss. I'm sick and tired of sword getting 5 sevos per game and rune getting infinite free spellboost.

>>532365776
Where is i play haven

>>532365539
>implying you will get ANY kuon in the match
>meanwhile you just need a roach/orchis to win

which /svg/ guild if I'm above 6ft, fit, and have a chiseled jawline?

>>532365619
My Haven deck doesn't win anymore
This game turns me into a bad angry person

From 12 winstreak to only have won 1 game in the last 13 games an demotion back to Topaz
1/5 box after 4 hours of TANO FUCKING SHIT

>>532365801
You don't need Apollo tbqh.

>>532365801
Looks fine

stay strong, portalbros. sword and rune may be broken as hell right now, but you must not stoop down to their level. building gundams is the way of the honest, hardworking man.

>>532365705
Forest was doing that before this expansion giving it ambush from above

>>532365801
>still running 2pp followers in control abyss
ngmi

>Played all 3 Amalias
>Runs out of gas
>Topdecks Amelia into all 3 Gildarias
>Finally concedes after all of this fails to work
Sheesh

>>532366094
>just run no followers below 3pp in a sword meta bro

>>532366054
grats mechbro
keep fighting the good fight

I've been getting double gravy by 5 in all my games against sword lately and I don't know how I would win otherwise.

>>532365801
x3 Charon autofill

>>532366285
I will "autofill" Charon if you catch my drift

>>532366054
post list

Is the distinction between paid vs unpaid crystals just because of some weird law from either the EU or Japan or something?

>>532364141 (OP)
Open guild member
We will be S++ rank
So to get the reward from KMR you need to be master rank

817253747768

>>532364141 (OP)
>Craft 3 copies of card X
>They nerf card X
>No refund because you can only vial 4th copy
So why don't they nerf anything if this doesn't ruin the economy?

>>532366471
Yes.

>>532364614
he's sadly right.

>>532366526
I assume that is not how they will reimburse people for nerfs, since that would make no sense.

>>532366216
>I don't know how I would win otherwise.
You don't. Sword is a "Gravy or die" matchup for all Abyss decks.

>>532366521
>join our guild and work 12/5 shifts, surely we won't kick you mid-season fellow goyim :^)

>>532366582
>artifact is in “other” behind hoe-chan
what went wrong

>>532366471
Unpaid crystals don't count towards purchase bonus points

>>532366471
No, they're using it to fleece whales even harder. You only get crystal points for the new crystal rewards from paid crystals, so this effectively lets them inflate the costs of those crystal rewards. Bought a 5500 crystal pack, thought you'd get the 5000 crystal points reward? Too bad, paypiggy, you only get 4000 points, you need to pay more to get that reward.

>>532365389
DClimb also needs a nerf, literally retarded tranny card that will ALWAYS cause issues and make them broken, also limits card design

>>532366521
I will get S++ easy.

>>532366684
I kicked 0 GRP. Last season at 120 GRP.
I asked in chat and she doesn't reply.

>>532366745
I was just wondering why the fuck I was only at 14k
This is super retarded when the gem prices are already a major ripoff for what you get.

>>532366694
Artifact players probably swapped to Sword instead since it's by far the best deck right now.

>>532366770
jesus christ do you actually have a folder with basedjacks?

You should really take a step back and look at wtf youre doing

>>532366635
It makes sense for a scammer refusing to refund his product

shout out to all the assholes who said i was carried by my deck
shartifact is GARBAGE and HONEST

>>532366939
you tell him sister *tips fedora*

>>532367003
>face dragon

>>532366886
Honestly, I was pretty willing to spend money on this game - however, anything past the first two bundles just seems not worth it at all.

>>532367003
>won against aggro dragon a literal 90-10 mu

>>532366694
The only meta deck they have a good matchup vs is sword and even then its only like 60/40 in their favor.

>>532366816
>she

>>532367030
didnt find your appropriate le epic reaction jack in your curated folder?

Is there any extra reward for completing all 10 galore days? Just realized I somehow missed one

>>532367053
Yeah I only spent a 4x80$ on top of that because I only started 10 days ago or so.
Needed it to catch up realistically.
Rationally speaking, you are absolutely right. Anything beyond those early bundles is a waste of money and honestly an insulting value proposition.

>>532367068
Rune getting access to all that healing really fucked that matchup which was heavily in Artifact's favor by spamming beta before the new set.

>>532367049
>>532367063
what about the 4 games before that fags

>>532366939
yes

>if you do to spellboost, it will die
Good. It's counterplay is running a degenerate deck that one shots it.

You can't fucking play around spellboost. You just have to always assume they have a 20 plus Storm Blast or William on hand. And if you DO play around them and play cautiously to not expend your resources, you go to late game and they can high roll you with Satan and Dimensional Climb.

You can theoretically play around dirt because you can see how many sigils they have.

>>532367206
Spellboost is just so poorly designed in general, dogshit deck for faggots

>>532367146
why didn't you upload an image to imgur? this is an imageboard after all, tourist

>>532367151
bricked , just reroll

>>532366770
>soy9.jpg
based /qa/ OG

>>532367003
>shartifact is GARBAGE
Not really, the matchups got worse but it's still solid and the new cards made it more consistent, no more playing at 20% power if Alouette doesn't show up before t5

>Play ladder
>rune
>rune
>rune
>Play unranked
>rune
>rune
>rune
Anyone know KMR's address? Asking for a friend.

Do you get guild rewards based on your individual points or do you get nothing unless you reach the same rank that your guild has unlocked? Would someone with 120 points in an s++ guild get the s rank rewards or no rewards?

>>532367190
Yeah. Its literally impossible unless the rune player bricks and the artifact player highrolls. A single Norman evo undoes 3 turns worth of beta spam.

>>532367206
If you can't close the game before turn 10 you deserve to perish.

>>532367206
I have found a retarded SPELLBOOST NIGGER
who highrolled SO FUCKING MUCH he summoned the 8pp dirt legendary and fucking kept it alive forever by spamming the witches and sigils, absolutely insane, it's just the most retarded deck in the game
swordcraft is probably stronger but i'd still delete spellboost from the game because it's so fucking insanely infuriating, literal little timmy deck

>>532367151
No extra, but you've just missed the 500k rupies that were waiting for you in that one chest.

>>532367206
the dirt cards arent bullshit and have a fixed cost and you always know what theyll do
meanwhile spellboost can pull a 3pp board nuke into a 16pp turn out of its ass

>>532367306
hwabasfbbc

>>532367332
Theoretically you'd get the rewards, but realistically you're getting kicked for being a leech if you're only 120 at the end of the season.

>>532366521
I'm in Master but I have to wait for the countdown so I'll only apply in an hour or so.
ingame name is Shiny

>>532367205
>basedjak
>phoneposting

>>532367359
>It's counterplay is running a degenerate deck that one shots it.
Roach and face dragon high rolling while Rune bricks shouldn't be the only answer.

>>532366461
here you go bwo

>>532367068
It beats both flavors of abyss too

>>532367535
kek

>>532367291
W-What is ho-chan doing??

>swordbab pisses herself in fear at puppet theater and passes 2 turns
>>532365741
It's dogshit but it just works somehow https://files.catbox.moe/wgpv3o.png

>>532367508
the average roach beats the average rune

>>532367563
No it doesn't.

>>532366902
>No Albert
Cool staged match lil bro

>heal
>heal
>heal
>heal
>heal
>kuon
whaow

>>532367606
Ho chan was too much of a do nothing to win the game, so she's turned to other methods to squeeze out a win...

>>532367621
Damn anon. You're so good at this game. I wish I could beat guys that hard brick and pass 2 turns in a row.

>>532364946
Is this deck good? I'm about to craft 3 Odin

>>532367563
aggro is 50/50 you have to hit all your early drops and if they go wide and you have to make gamma instead of alpha all the damage they do sticks and you just lose
control abyss is heavily favored for the abyss player
you waste your evos much faster than them and its almost impossible to setup a proper lethal through their healing

>>532367373
Sword is strong but has counterplay since you can predict what they are doing. The only actual unknown variable is what Rose makes 0 cost. Like if you have 12 health on turn 9 having a 4 health ward on the field will keep you alive 99% of the time because Albert will have to swing into the ward before he can go face.

If Rose pulls something and it is just sitting in their hand for a long time you can assume it is going to be a samurai

>>532367621
Isn't sword like puppets one good match-up anyway?

I've been playing Evolve and it's surprisingly fun. Do you guys think they'll eventually add a Gloryfinder format to WB? Also swimsuit set for WB fucking WHEN Cygames!?

>>532367848
>just counterplay their 1card boardvomit+clear for 8 rounds without dropping in Albert range bro

>>532367621
>amalia luminos is unbe... ACK

If they were to nerf sword who would get nerfed? Albert can't be nerfed since Tanaka would get angry if he can end his games on 9.

>>532367895
play sv1

>>532367895
Whats gloryfinder?

>>532367895
Not even evolve players play gloryfinder lmao

>>532367797
>brick
He probably just wanted to Valse something. Swordfag without Valse is like Rune without lesbians

>>532367848
It doesn't even have to be samurai in that case. Every 2 drop Rose can grab except Prim can do 1 damage.

>>532367848
you can predict they will probably drop amalia into amalia but sometimes you just dont have the out

>>532367621
>1 sylvia
>2 cavalier
>everything else
If it was in the game I would believe this deck is drafted in t2

>>532367848
>just have a 4 health ward every single turn bro

>>532367553
How do you play this

>>532367919
It's such a fucking noob trap combo, which fucking class can't answer that? Forest I guess?

>>532367972
Whatever you say sis.

Uhhh

>>532368083
>no staff down
he bricked

>>532368060
Abyss can't answer it before they have access to 9pp.

>>532368083
probably no lily no glade no may

>>532367848
How do I counter 20+ stats every turn that I have to clear or die to Albert even if I know its coming?
>Just cheat

>>532365801
Remove Apollo, he fucks with Charon's crest ability and isn't really worth it. Also would recommend removing an Olivia an adding at least 2 Medusas, she's kinda essential for control. She is a free board clear in most cases, can threaten game if she isn't answered immediately, and is a hard counter to ward Haven

>>532367958
Commander/highlandsr format of physical SV. You can only include 1 copy of each card but you can mix from all classes. You can also choose one card you have at the beginning in your hand for more consistent plays.

Dirt is good

>>532368113
Medusa+reapers scythe says otherwise.

>>532367939
Nobody. Sword is fine

>>532368247
Swordbab hands typed this

>>532368226
That needs 2 specific cards in hand and puts you at a 2-card disadvantage behind sword. Also doesn't clear the Luminous 1/3, meaning sword will get lots of wards next turn as well.

>>532367939
They're nerfing sword by printing loot next set.

>>532368247
LOL

>>532367848
The issue which Sword is that you effectively have 8 health to play with or else Albert comes knocking as early as turn 8 if they go second and they flood the board so everything HAS to be removed and now they have access to Odin which gives them 4,6, or 7 damage to your face while removing whatever you had on board to set up for their Albert turn. If you go wide instead then Glidaria comes out instead of Odin, they have answers to practically everything and you NEED to clear their board every turn or you lose.

That's why the best decks against it are Rune and Artifact that can consistently clear their boards and heal. That's also why you see swordbabs seething nonstop about Rune. Anne and Great in particular pisses them off because it clears their board AND prevents the turn 5 Albert to the face.

>>532367990
This is true for everything btw. You can predict what literally every class can do in any given turn and still not have the outs.

>>532367858
no it's awful
abyss is

>>532367895
They shill it extremely hard so most likely. It'll probably just be a 1v1 format though because programming a multiplayer format would break the brains of these devs
>>532367958
Basically Shadowverse's version of commander from MTG. It's a singleton format, so only 1 of each card, but you can use cards from any class. You also pick a single card to be your "glory" card which you can use at any point in the game as long as you pay the cost. It's more of a fun casual format.

>>532367848
yeah Sword is stronger for sure, the thing, I have much unfun against Rune rather than Sword, Sword is just strong card after strong card, the effects of Rune cards come straight up from fucking fantasy theorycrafting posted here, it's literal cheating. at least sword has to bring me to 12 and have a sevo to oneshot me you know? that's what I mean, rune just feels absurdly unfair and it never seems like the game is in your hands

>>532367939
Gildaria autoevo is now a regular evo.
Valse deals 3 damage on fanfare instead of 5 unless enhanced.
Amelia only recovers 2pp, not 3.

They need to do balance changes mid-set
I don't see myself playing through 1 more month of this shit

>>532368294
>No you can't answer this specific 2 card combo with your own specific 2 card combo, that doesn't count

>>532368372
Oh no they have to save a SEVO? The class that has Rush on every single card? The humanity

>>532368294
You can Ginsestsu them next turn then. Amelia + Luminous is a highroll and you didn't put enough pressure on the board if your opponent had enough room to do a greedy play like that.

>>532368443
rune doesnt even need to do that, if you really want to put it on that level lol

>>532368325
Rune players build their entire deck specifically to counter sword and aggro and swordbabs can't stop seething about it

>>532368425
Amelia draws 2, retardbro. This means that Amelia+Luminous is card-neutral, while Medusa+Reaper makes your hand size go by 2. In a grindy long game, that's a crippling disadvantage. That's why a 1-card answer is preferable - going down by 1 card to answer a card-neutral play is much less painful than by 2.

So are you guys joining the 8 or 16 players tourney?

>>532367858
In my experience sword and roach are by far puppet's worst match-ups.

>>532368567
8 because I'm an idiot

>>532368521
Retards like you are the reason no one takes sword haters seriously despite it being the strongest class.

I get so hard whenver I play Ho-Chan boys, I dropped down to topaz but I cant stop

shadowbabs...
will we make it to s+++?

>>532368521
>This means that Amelia+Luminous is card-neutral, while Medusa+Reaper makes your hand size go by 2.
Swordbabs, everyone

>>532368337
You literally cannot predict or plan around spellboost. The concept of preemptively evolving a unit to make it impossible to kill does not exist when Stormy Blast and William are hitting for 15+

>>532368034
keep low cost units (1, 2, or 3 costs) in starting hand. ideally, also keep one card that can cheat out an artifact card. if you get orchis in starting hand, try to keep her as well.
the early game decides whether you win or lose. if you do not deal enough chip damage by gundam turn, you're pretty much screwed. primarily, instead of relying on gundam, you want to end the game by using orchis, odin, or even karula sevo + beta artifact.

>>532367895
I will never forgive evolve for stealing the superior long haired Filene from us

>>532368183
They didnt learn from Crosscraft huh

>>532368630
>>532368673
Do you not understand the concept of card advantage and disadvantage, even though it's a central card game concept? Grim, /svg/ is dumber than I thought.

>>532368567
is there any reason to join 8 other than being impatient

>>532368776
Filene still has long hair in her evo art

>>532368516
>rune needs an evo for tanoshii
>usually needs to blow one on anne and grea to come back
>1 sevo is locked to satan/kuon or they typically lose
Rune has 1 flex sevo which is usually used on a mid game Kuon or on Norman to heal/make another barrier golem.

>>532368662
Nope. Sorry.

>>532368518
Rune building a deck that beats aggro and sword literally means the deck does not have a weakness. Since aggro and sword are playing opposite games and you have answers to everything in the entire game

>>532368846
>impatient
this is not even a reason btw. you still have to play minimum 2 and you can leave whenever after that for your rewards

>>532368958
ok swordbab

>>532367895
Today I will remind them

>>532368776
why do anime characters always have long hair when they power up

>>532368958
Rune is weak to other rune decks so its fine.

gloryhole finder

>>532368878
ok nobody cares, they can still mega win without evos, they're still almost as broken as sword and both need to be deleted

>>532368776
>from us
it's gbf filene art

>>532369012
This flopped hard why are they still trying?

>>532365108
>looks like shit
Apologize

sword is fine, I only won 8 out of my last 10 matches

>>532369012
Why are Rune and Forest leaders Black all of a sudden? Would fuck her though

>>532368878
oh no their kuon is only a 7pp 12/12 rush ward spellboost 5
what ever will they do

>>532369012
Dreads make blacks look undignified in fantasy

>>532369154
cute firefly

>>532369183
Trying to appeal to Americans

>sword is the uncontested best deck from this set
>literally in a tier of its own
>some nigga got a 32 win streak with sword, no other deck went above 15
>warps the entire meta around itself, everyone has to play massive cope tech cards like apollo to make their sword matchup 30-70 instead of 20-80

>b-but rune

as an aggro player, i have never seen a sword play amelia and lumi on the same turn

>>532368697
And yet somehow easy and telegraphed class like sword, dragon, blood are always the ones being labeled unfair whenever they're top decks.

winstreaking will never mean anything
it's just luck

>65.5% winrate (19-10) past 29 master diamond games as ward haven
I have to thank swordbabs for being so overbearing runefags had to adapt to them gimping their OTK consistency and giving me 5-5 rune matchup which would otherwise be more like 1-9

>>532369148
show the group distribution bro

If forest was Rune Titania's crest would just automatically put the fairy on the field each turn and start with 1 combo

>>532369154
What's Sword gameplan from your pov? You play a lot of valuable followers and you save Albert to finish the game with 12 damage?

>>532369071
They need to have William in hand for a while for that to happen and they're playing a single follower that's weak to Odin when that happens. Keep in mind that the rune lethals are inconsistent and RNG based(often depending on DClimb to give them needed cards) instead of Albert to face being consistent and something you can actually play around instead of hitting the DClimb button and pulling the slot machine lever.

>>532369220
Even SEvo Kuon is easily cleared by Glidaria.

>>532369183
The 2 on the right are OCs they made to appeal to the American market and are sword and haven
The 2 on the left are shadoba 1 originals and are abyss and rune(formerly portal)

>>532369262
Its very rare since sword doesn't even play 3 Luminous.

>>532369247
Rune just feels more frustrating but swordbabs are still niggers because they think that gives their shit a pass.

>>532369341
This would be too broken

>>532369130
Evolve is popular in SEA and Japan, the issue with physical TCG in the West is that fags refuse to play anything that isn't MTG or YGO.

>>532369358
>They n-
No they don't need shit, during grind games or before they have the response to everything you do everytime because their deck consists into drawing the entire deck to begin with, if they don't they bricked AND you can defeat them (if you didn't brick too), which is a rare circumstance because you know, as I said, they draw the entire deck and their cards are infinite value. once they are """""""forced""""""" to use all evos they can just wait for satan dclimb since every card they shoot is fullclear and win. stop downplaying that tranny faggot deck already

>>532369341
If it was Sword she would autoevolve when at least 5 fairies have been played

What card do they need to print in the next set to counter the Rune meta?

>>532369292
What is your list?
Mine worked well but today, it's just loss streak after loss streak. I didn't fight Blood at all

>>532369247
The top 2 decks are both sword and swordbabs are STILL whining about Rune despite Sword having 3x as much representation.
>>532366582

>>532367820
>control abyss is heavily favored for the abyss player
icarus gives you infinite card advantage over abyss which has shit card draw so you win in the long game every single time

>>532369478
Isn't the Diddymon TCG popular in the west? I heard good things about the One piece TCG as well.

>>532369632
They cant fathom that they have a 50-50 matchup with any class, its just unfair

>>532369669
Not especially.

>>532369615
give odin a shot over lapis

Sword never wins by just playing shit and then Albert unless their opponent bricked.
Sometimes your opponent plays a board you just literally can't clear and you have to decide if you're going to gamble your evo point on clearing just to stay alive or if you have to just go face and hope they have nothing behind it. You have to have immaculate game sense to win with sword unlike rune or aggro abyss where you just slop your shit onto the board no matter what and have a ton of room for error because you heal up the dick

>>532369478
I wanted to play Cardfight for the sex mermaid deck but I knew there was no point because I'd never find people to play

>>532369745
Quiet piggy

>>532369669
I had 4 asian dudes in my locals in bumfuck nowhere playing that shit so probably. We'll see how good their digital one will be.

>>532369686
They're 40-60~ vs artifact, but no ones playing that since every other meta deck shits on them.

>>532369745
stfu swordnigger

>>532369824
>>532369782
You hate me because I told the truth.

>>532369773
Just be a collector and cum tribute over them while they're sleeved.

>>532369536
It's objectively worse than Sword, that's not downplaying it's stating the facts. It's less consistent with higher variance that lead to flashier wins. Rune is right there behind sword but trying to down play Sword is the most retarded thing you could do in this meta.

>>532369745
You jest but swordnigs actually believe this.

>>532369863
>It's objectively worse than the strongest busted deck in the game
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>532369669
Wtf is diddymon

does the quickblader sword list use crown or no

I would rather play against a million swords over playing against runefags building a wall and spamming heals the moment they get below 20 health since they know they win at turn 10 so the entire part of the game where you need to weigh offense and defense doesn't exist for them

>>532369478
Not really, even grand archive is more popular and it's AI generated gooner garbage

>>532369954
you never use crown

>>532369968
thats because you are the swordnigger in this tale

>>532369968
trvke

>21-5 in master sapphire today
>Only fought sword 5 times
>Know I'm going to promote soon and be sent to hell
>Desire to play completely gone
Nerfs NOW or I will not purchase the battlepass

>>532369968
Everyone says this

At least some decks have a favorable MU vs Sword (kinda), Rune is literally invincible if the game handles them the perfect hand, it literally has 0 losing MU with a standard hand

>>532369741
Thank you

>>532370003
just consneed

>>532369745
The only "people" mad at sword are aggro apiss keks. They honestly don't care about turn 9 albert because sword makes them concede much earlier.

>>532369954
There's exactly 1 4 cost that sees play in sword.

>>532370056
The only people not mad at swordfags are swordshitters themselves.

>>532370034
But chests

>>532370003
I can't fathom having an 80% win rate in my games and complaining that anything is broken because you might lose at some point

>Spend my evo points to maximize face damage vs rune in turn 1-4
>Anne Grea
>Clear it and hit face again
>They norman and heal for 8 into norman heal for 8
>Now I'm fucked because they undid 5 turns with of damage in 2 turns
balanced btw

>>532369686
in practice it's probably more than 50/50 because a lot of swordbabs are retarded and make bad plays.

>>532369657
As CAbyss I've only lost to artifact once or twice over across around 20 games. It genuinely feels like a 90-10 matchup in favour of CAbyss. Same for puppet.

>sword is overpowered because it gets winstreaks in random ranked games
>rune is not overpowered after shitstomping the best sword player in a 20 match exhibition and the last Japanese tournament having more runes than every other class combined

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

>>532370232
They are both overpowered

>>532369773
Based, I did the same. Even if I can't play the game it's fun to collect the cards though. Vanguard does a good job with quality and a lot of the cards look incredible so they make for a good collectable TCG

>>532369330
What for?

Edelweiss is just there vs aggro. Is lila even worth it could drop her and penelope for astrologers and a flame of chaos

>>532370232
>shitstomping
>swordbabs unironically think winning 40% of games in their single worst matchup is the same as being shitstomped
KYS swordnigger

>>532370160
It isn't about winning or losing, playing against decks that do nothing but drop broken cards every turn just isn't fun.

You'll never guess what they played after this!

>>532370160
Rune players do be like that.

>>532370312
to see how long you were in diamond for

>>532370221
>call out swordnigs that their deck share the villain role with rune.
>they all chimp out.

how long till we go back

>>532370334
you are just as cancer you little shitter

>>532370232
They should take all swordfags and runekeks and put them in the same queue against each other

Where can I sell my account?

>>532370221
>Everyone who cries about Rune is Sword and anyone who cries about Sword is Rune
Keep projecting, tard

>>532370232
It's even funnier, sword gets winstreaks according to a random website that gets its data from unverified player submissions. Rune players are like kikes, they expect you to ignore facts and focus on their mass media narrative.

>>532370390
It's either make cards mechanically complicated but consistent or make every cards an RNG shitfest like hearthstone, and I prefer the former.

>>532370434
They already do that, it's called Diamond.

>>532370434
I'd like to petition for swordfags to be named swordkeks and runekeks to be runefags please.

>>532370207
NTA but could I get some tips? It's unironically my personal worst matchup and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

>>532370470
>>532370334
>Dclimbed twice in 10 turns
>First one was on turn EIGHT
What the fuck??? How?

>>532370582
I got double dclimbed on turn 8 like an hour ago

>>532370496
complex effects are bad for e-sports
they said that they're moving away from that

>>532370510
Fair enough, all Rune cards are literal fags

>>532367858
Puppet can't win the game if sword plays more than 3 full board cards in a game (Zirconia, Luminous, Amalia, the new bitch). You just run out of resources and can't clear the board and die next turn.

>>532370465
Seems pretty clear to me desu.

>>532370636
Ygobros...

>>532370582
average runenigger experience

>>532370207
>90-10 matchup in favour of CAbyss
It's not that extreme but having to mulligan for aggro because it's far more common doesn't help

I think I've had my fun, game is just too shit right now and I can't see it ever getting any better given their approach to design with the first 2 sets.

>>532370434
thats literally master diamond

>>532370375
It's tainted by 100s of games with aggro abyss this season. I've just switched from it.

>>532370334
it's impossible to beat a rune highroll, I've come to terms with that.

>>532370720
Nah there are aggro abyssfags up there too

>>532370636
Fake and gay

>>532370636
those 2 cards arent complex though
one is an otk from healing three times
and the other just gets stronger based on amulets destroyed

Downplayers are no different than election tourist nigs. Making shit up about other side like their life depended on it, and as if their opinion affects anything. Mentally ill

How is control abyss dodging heat? They seem strong as well.

>>532370754
not in diamond, at least the past 2 days for me its 90% sword and rune with 10% cabyss. I havent seen portal or haven in forever

>>532366054
I'm gambling full face now

>>532370830
loses to rune

>>532370512
>NTA but could I get some tips? It's unironically my personal worst matchup and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Consistently pressure them by putting down something that could potentially deal explosive damage with Cerberus every turn even if you don't actually have her, since they don't know what's in your hand. That way they can't afford to Beta you and have to spam Gamma or Alpha instead. In the long run, you outgrind them, as either they just won't have a way to answer your board in hand at some point, or they will just deck out.
Also, if they evolve Carnelia twice, you just lose, so hope they don't do that.
Ironically, in many games I thought "if the artifact player just built a gundam here and went face, I'd probably lose a few turns later as I wouldn't be able to stabilise from that", but most artifact players even in AA diamond are too greedy and risk averse to do that.

>>532370830
hard loses to rune, loses a bit to aggro abyss

it has a favorable MU vs sword though, just don't brick

>>532370793
I dont get it either, as if anyone gives a shit what our opinions on this board are, it changes nothing

>>532366582
>winstreak stats from svwins
lmao that's useless
meanwhile eops don't know roach won another jp tourney despite retards here saying it's dead

>>532365539
OG Kuon costed 0 and had unconditional storm followers, you are retarded

My dailies no longer take 5 hours after switching decks

Are amalia and yurius shitting up my deck? I feel like you need the amalias to outvalue haven but I'm not sure that matters. I could play some dogs instead of grimnir or quickbladders instead of the 8pps

>>532370830
The cost of the deck makes it rarer to play against, Rune just slotted in 2 or 3 Norman's to what they were already using so it was cheap. If you don't have full playsets of every Abyss legendary then it's a ridiculous vial cost.

>>532370956
>>532370793
they're not trying to protect the deck or change opinion, they're trying to protect their ego

if you say "deck is OP" and they play it they feel attacked and feel angry about it because it's like you're called them unskilled
it's something you see very often in gacha generals when insulting waifus, aka brown behavior

>>532370830
CAbyss is 50-50 vs all flavours of sword, 40-60 vs dirtclimb, 10-90 vs pure dclimb, 30-70 vs lamp.
It shits on pretty much everything else, but it has its fair share of not very good matchups.

W-Ward haven bros... I can't find any forest players to rape...

>>532371054
Grimnir is what's shitting up your deck bro
cut that slop

>>532371054
Depends on what you want to do, your deck is too slow for aggro and too light for mid-range.

>>532371075
ok but why would you insult waifus

>>532370003
You would have promoted already if true so nice fanfiction

oh yeah because odin wasn't already fucking busted
combo with vuella and you get 9 damage to the face from hand

>>532371075
surely people dont get an ego over playing some obtuse weeb card game?

What are runes bad matchups?

>>532370830
There's counterplay to their deck except for Cerberus.

>>532371158
they're all in master diamond, come out here to hang out hagsis

>>532371221
sword, abyss

>>532371221
Themselves drawing bad

>>532371221
Roach, which doesn't exist in the meta. Other than that, none.

>>532368034
Burn their face with betas then finish them with Orchis and Odin

>>532371304
Have people tested that its actually a bad mu still

>>532370754
not really
i see control abyss more than aggro

>>532371203
a turn 10 play should be busted

>>532371354
Nobody really knows for sure because forestpedos went extinct in this expac.

>>532371194
K

>>532371221
Bricking. If they don't they always win. The stronger the deck they have against the less hard they have to brick to lose. Sword has the best chance at beating them

Also as the anon mentioned, roach would rape them but unfortunately they got bullied out of the meta

theres literally thousands of players in masters diamond, each one with their own matchup spread

>>532371203
>10pp 9 damage
wow so overpowered!

>>532371221
Roach is a hard counter. All the healing in the world doesn't matter if you can be OHKO.

>>532371203
>with the power of 10pp, two cards, and a sevo, APiss can do as much damage as an unevolved genesissy
Impressive!

>>532371275
>forced fairification
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>>532371441
I think ward haven is fizzling out due to getting bullied by all the standard decks. Are there any other decks keeping roach down?

>>532371446
>have 30k master points this season
>im still at like 5000th
how do tanakas manage to grind so much or is it all hikkis?

Today I played 28 games of rune ended with 14-13. Wish there as a better way to track your math history than just scrolling.

>>532371354
Spellboost is still bad against roach. Dirt just completely assfucks roach and the matchup is almost as bad as ward haven since dirt is pretty much an aggro deck that also has 40 health

>>532371590
pen and paper
https://swordishonest.github.io/tracker/

>>532371221
Forest and Abyss. Aggro Dragon too probably but no one plays that anymore.

>>532371275
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO BE A FAIR-

>>532371557
>Are there any other decks keeping roach down?
nta but i don't think so. it's the iq check required that keeps the deck down.

>>532371507
rune has norman now thoughever

>>532371707
Forest really is the most honest class.

>>532371275
BUTA-

>>532371638
aggro dragon vs rune was miserable before, go figure how fucking shit it is now lmao

How do you play pixie forest?
Feels like playing boneless aggro sword

Am I fucking up by running my samurais into Portal 2/2s on turn 2?

>>532369741
Your deck is cursed
No Jeanne and Aether in 4 games!

8pp get banished by odin

> One (1) hour for a chest to show up
> One (1) hour to get a win for said chest

WIN 5 GAMES. JUST DO THAT CYGAMES. REMOVE THE RNG BULLSHIT. I FUCKING WANT THIS SHIT TO EOS NEXT WEEK WITH ALL THIS RETARDED GIMMICKS.

I showed you my dirt please respond (I don't have 2nd lila)

>>532371863
no

>>532371757
>barrier
Weak to fairies

>3hp wards
Weak against may and bayle

Rune dropped the high roll destroyer package too, it got slower.

>>532371945
What deck did Spider-Man play to achieve this ending?

>>532371438
Means nothing we know how group works, 13 in last 20 promotes to diamond, excluding Ruby games

>Portal on turn 5
>Has a 4/1 but hasn't played Alouette yet
>I can't clear the 4/1 unless I evo something that will get wiped by Alouette
>Or I can play Luminous and do nothing but then I'll have 3 things to clear if they Alouette
what do?

https://youtu.be/Zdi7eLwlS6w?si=MaqxkvhoPXie-9iy
we will get a rhino iteration that will beat ward haven soon.

Why does swordcraft just get a random card that fills the field and then gives ward and barrier to everything and also buffs all their followers and super evolves everyone and fully heals the leader

>>532371964
Juno should be at 3x no? she carries hard

>>532371918
13 cards left. Still nothing

>>532371918
skill issue

>>532371275
Chotto okoteru ka mo

>>532371771
It's all about collecting chip damage while sacrificing your leader hp, and then finisher with either :
1. Sevo odin
2. Roach
3. if you have aria crest, that cost 4 gold evolve summon fairies and buff +1/0
4. Rosequeen
In rare moment, you can even win with lynmaga tick, picrel.

>>532371964
that 4pp spell is asscheeks, remove it and add more of any of your other x2

>>532371990
Oh and Lymaga allows you to board lock rune so they can't kill you with Kuon on turn 10, especially if they're spawning onions and have their dirt sigil out.

>>532372164
Cheers anon, got a list to recommend? Or should I just go to sv-wins and pick the first one

>>532371761
Forest was only good in the first set because the strongest class literally did nothing for 5 turns then took full board control until turn 9 then automatically won on turn 10

This means forest was able to collect all the pieces they need with minimal threat and win on turn 9. Meanwhile if forest had to fight face dragon they just got shitstomped

Forestpedos deserve this one for their suffering. Either this or PtP anyway.

whats the best 2 drop in the game?
i think its either lovestruck puppeteer or lancer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHQuky5FDWA
grinder is streaming rn

>t1 +1pp prim
>t2 nonja
>t3 valse
>t4 zirconia evo
Wtf is this bullshit

Just play Shartifact if you hate Sword so much, they still rape anything sword does

Dragon Ramp is pretty honest desu. It's completely on the opponent to punish the ramping, which is easy. Frankly, It's a bit embarrassing to see some of these guys not do anything before I ramp out and rape them.

Gildaria rubbing her pregnant belly while giving you an autism stare with those glowing eyes of hers

>>532372393
They should make a cute girl be the wincon instead of reusing the roach

Just give me the first Liza, then I can truly play the Rune killer like the good ol' days.

Do I become a swordbab?

>>532372651
Sekka and Castelle already exist

>>532372464
he had 2 drop miriam and alouette
what is he supposed to do here

Your opponent plays this fatass, ramping you by 1 and drawing you a card for free. How do you respond without sounding mad?

>>532372703
lose to the superior craft

>>532372651
Cute girl alternate art to roach when? They genderbent that one samurai in sword.

>>532372703
Not make strikers icarus catapult a ward

>>532372405
Lancer is technically a 3pp drop.

>>532372703
mulligan/luck better
he literally did nothing for the first 3 turns it looks like

>>532372703
no craft beats this

>>532372852
Apollo clears most of that board.

>Sword is goo-ACK
They had 0 face damage until they did Orchis into Orchis and instantly won the game.

>>532372849
he played his 3 drop that instantly got 5 damage nuked

>>532372936
how did he do 20 face damage with 2 orchis through 4 wards bro?

>>532372936
Actual skill issue.

>>532372703
Not sure icarus catapult ward or alpha would've been better they had no mats to catapult a gamma but playing carnelia was a huge throw

>>532372994
Amalia has to sac two of her wards just to kill Lloyd

turns out i was just playing badly, control abyss beats runeniggers (even when i brick a lot of the time)

>>532372936
oh no :( anyways

>>532372852
rune can if they have enough sigils to board clear with sagelight on turn 4.

>>532373092
The best I can do as control abyss is 40-60 against nigger rune, how do you do better than that?

>>532373058
so how did he do 20 face damage with 2 orchis through 2 wards bro? his hand had to be exactly orchis orchis puppet puppet puppet puppet and he has 5 cards in hand to spare. why did you spend turns 567 doing nothing?

>>532373170
They played Noah the turn prior which I Odin faced because I had nothing better to play
You can tell just from fucking looking at their HP that I wasn't 'doing nothing' retard

Abyss needs better card draw, currently the biggest issue with its control decks is that they have terrible draw.

>>532372898
>14 hp
clearing is basically irrelevant at this point lmao
doesn't actually fullclear either so if opp just evos the remaining 1/2 shitter you are already dead

>diamond
>mid sword 3/7 matchup
>c abyss 1/9 matchup
>spellboost 3/7 matchup
lost back to sapphire again with dirt
just can't stay diamond consistently with this

kinda want to go back to otk Forest for now
>mid sword 4/6 matchup
>c abyss 8/2 matchup
>spellboost 7/3 matchup

then again, even one game against Aether will ruin my day, so I can't handle it
0-10 matchup is just too devastating for my mental state
but I really want to punish Cabyss

>>532373357
>doesn't actually fullclear either
Add in a ghost out of hand and it's a full clear.
>>532373379
Havenbros??? Help, forestpedos are coming back.

Is face abyss also a bad mu for roach?

>>532373529
yes roach sucks into aggro

>>532373379
Just leave the haven game if they play Aether on 7 then. That deck bricks a lot from when I've fought against it.

>>532373310
so not only did you not have a board threatening enough for noah to need to play out any of his puppets, he also even got to keep and buff an extra puppet from puppet theater or puppeteer earlier. so again, why did you spend your time doing literally nothing?

>15-1 over past 16 games
I was having fiercer competition in sapphire this feels like I'm back in ruby.

>>532373618
Are you playing control or midrange?

>>532373614
Jee maybe it's because I don't get to choose the cards in my hand every game you fucking topaz

I really don't like that I have to go to park to see guild menu. This thing is just forcing you to waste a few clicks through things just to see simple information. The UX is horrendous.

>>532373618
everyone worth their salt is at least AA atp

>>532373686
I accept your concession

>>532372936
Your fault for playing the even more retard friendly sword variant

Play more aggro abyss and haven to keep the forestnigs down

>>532373334
your 6 dongers?
your 2pp draw 2?
your 5pp draw 2?

>>532373739
It's not like Jeno or Olivia is going to help in place of tentacles

>>532373708
i feel like the park was supposed to be the only hub with all the menus but they couldnt figure out how to make that work
theres stands for everything including packs in there but nobody uses them

Rune wouldn't be half as frustrating to play against if satan -> dclimb -> astaroth -> sevo otk wasn't in the game
I know that the combo doesn't happen anywhere near as much as retarded swordbabs pretend it does, but the fact that it is in the game and rune can just get away with a win regardless of the gamestate because of a bullshit interaction that feels like an oversight is fucking stupid

Maybe they should go ahead and remove astaroth from the game period, it's usually a dead draw in other satan decks anyways. But I know they won't because they're fucking retards

>>532373778
Ding dong is 2pp: lose the game against swordnigger opponent. No thanks.
2pp draw 2 is a brick that you can rarely use because it requires a sac outlet.
Olivia is the only good card draw available and she comes online far too late for how few cards she alone gives you.

>>532373778
I had a 7 dong deck(including charons) but I deleted because face is the place

the park doesnt even load the menus half the time

>>532373610
yeah, that's probably the right way to deal with it
there's only like one haven in 30 games at master afterall

>>532373092
How does control abyss stop rune's OTK with dclimb Kuon?

I don't think >>532367480 will ever recover from >>532367535

>I skipped every turn in the midgame and lost, this means my deck is actually bad
Swordbabs, everyone

>>532364141 (OP)
I'm gonna let loose a huge secret that I've been holding in.
Dirt is way better without the vtuber.
An 8pp 5/5 isn't going to do shit at turn 8.

>>532373923
Yeah. In master most of my haven games have been against storm haven recently, ward haven is a very rare matchup.

>>532373926
Force them to spend their sevos earlier.

>>532373882
Remove Satan and they just spam Kuon enhanced then Odin

>>532373139
unless they draw perfectly it's common that they can't clear every single minion on turns 0-5 (5 in this case is less common than 1-4 though lol). from 6 you can 100% assume everything will always get cleared though. i just do chip damage and go from there. i actually hard mulligan for gravy and just evo him. in the late game the twins also kinda cockblock their combo. but basically it's usually chip damage (sometimes with gravy evos too), cerb, and then probably aim to odin them. i do stuff like sevoing medusa too for those extra 3 pings.

>>532373983
Playing d*rt with doroshi feels objectively wrong maybe I buy isabelle

>>532373983
>Vs haven
>Cropped out the beginner rank emerald group
Oh no no no

Bro I legit got 450 vials from 5 chests today. Just 450 vials and nothing else....

>>532373938
So you admit Gildaria is a bad card then? I guess you can stop crying about her needing nerfs

Swordfags are the most retarded players in the game

>>532373926
this >>532374037
and I can handle one 10 to face, at that point I win next turn usually. they can't always rely on satan dclimb also if you force them to panic use dclimbs early to avoid dying.

>>532374037
>vs haven
bro thats an earth sigil on his opponent's field

>>532365389
>Amelia only recovers 2pp, not 3.
Are you seriously having trouble with Amelia being a 3pp 4/4 draw 2 at turn 6?
>Gildaria's free evo is a regular evo, not a sevo.
I can count on one hand the amount of times I got 20 rally for her
>Valse
Make it 4 and we have a deal

>>532373882
>it's usually a dead draw in other satan decks anyways
dragon can kill with astaroth+burnite crest

>>532374153
Uhh can you show me his lines I'm at like 33 havent done todays chests

>>532374040
they play 10/10+ storms with satan too
id much rather they have to save their kuons to setup a late game finish rather than vomit every lego they have onto the board until turn 10 instant win button

Breaking news: we just got an official announcement from KMR himself.

i grossly overestimated how often i'd use dark side to boost kuon's storm

>>532374268
Based kmr

>>532374234
meant for >>532374135

>>532368247
>Sword is fine
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>532374236
Oh so I must keep a single burnite in lamp deck at least gakshuu shimashita

>>532374235
>Are you seriously having trouble with Amelia being a 3pp 4/4 draw 2 at turn 6?
Amelia+Lumimage instawins the game against some decks on turn 8 going first or 7+coin going second, and that feels like bullshit.
Particularly because it instawins the game against my deck.

>>532374224
>Swordfags are the most retarded players in the game
TRVKEYPOW

>>532374153
She's a good card when you don't fill your deck with dogshit like tentacles and squirrels, retard

>>532367205
>>532367535
Holy based

>>532374040
>Remove Satan and they just spam Kuon enhanced then Odin
Ok yeah that's the plan, so what?
Kuon OTK from 20 -> 0 is harder to pull off than astaroth OTK and requires more resources
Rune usually has to kuon sevo once in the middlegame to keep board pressure which means they have to hold the other 2 if they want a 20-0 OTK, and even then it requires shikis and a favorable boardstate
Kuon is strong and you don't usually go for a meme 20 to 0 otk anyways but I much prefer this playstyle to Astaroth OTK spin the casino wheel 0 counterplay

>>532374236
damn that's crazy

>>532374153
>Didn't trade with Gildaria against fucking Puppets
You are so fucking retarded.

>Amelia + Lumi mage
>When Sword only runs 2x lumi mage now because she's so shit
Yeah and if that play doesn't work Sword instant loses because they'll run out of evos for face damage.

>>532374427
Tentacles is good take that back

>>532374386
i don't play sword anymore but that felt like a pretty rare combo to me, like once every 15 games maybe. and of course like everything it folds over to puppets.

When will KMR do something about rune

>>532374427
Tentacles is better than any alternative card sword can run at 7

>>532374616
Your Odin?

>>532374153
if you went wide noah wouldve had to spend the puppets to clear
you played hard into noah evo

>>532374616
Better than Odin?

>>532374236
The hilarious part is that if Rune got nerfed to the ground, rune players would flock to Ho-chan high roll decks to do shit like that instead.

>>532374135
Don't forget I told you so

>>532374616
better than furry and olivia?

>>532373983
master diamond?

I can win game with on curve anne/nono, roman, kuon/odin all the time against player with no answer
but you need the 8/5/5 sometimes to steal some damage to face lategame in those no-so-lucky game

Dirt still need a finisher, and Odin/Kuon aren't enough.

why do you all sound so miserable here?, I enjoy playing my swordcraft deck very much

>>532374537
It just feels like shit every time I lose to Amelia+Lumimage while Bricksetsu is in my hand but I can't play here because she's a 9pp do nothing and I only have 8pp to work with. Every time I lose like that, it makes me cope and seethe and mald.

>>532369741
I arrived at a similar list with 2 Injection over 2 Darkhaven which feels cloggy both in hand and on field. A base count of 2 removal spells or non-evo followers at most PP counts is very flexible. It gives you a simple way to shift around the power of your deck stronger at different stages of the game. The tigers feel necessary to survive the early game without relying of Salefa to bail you out.

I'm uncertain about the optimal number of 2PP and 3PP ward followers to run. They all have their merits and downsides for summoning in the early game and for being summoned by Aether.

>>532374662
>>532374646
>>532374704
There's no reason you can't have both, Odin took Jeno's slots
Olivia is useless, Sword doesn't have time or the points to S.Evo her

Where the fuck is take two?

>>532374813
nexto set. so in a month.

I swear to fucking god, KMR must have cancelled take two because it's a mode where Rune isn't favored. Wouldn't put it past these devs.

The problem with Amelia isnt the sevo but the fact that she's a fucking 3pp 4/4 draw 2

>>532374958
>draw 2
Tutor 2 actually which is much better than draw 2

>>532374386
It's overrated. I just use her to draw 2 now

>>532374673
This is true I only rerolled into daria ticket + rune deck because it was the flashiest deck that looked the most like the yugioh bullshit I was used to. Triple hochan decks belong in emerald though

>>532374813
after the chest event ends

>>532375014
This. Amelia + Lumi mage is too late to help you vs aggro abyss or roach in most cases and vs anyone else they just build a delay board themselves or fuck you with Gintetsu or something
Waste of an s.evo

https://shadowverse-magazine.com/blog/svwb/17344/
is this a thing i can watch somewhere
>シャドバWBではユーザーが遊びやすく、復帰しやすい環境を作るためにカード能力はシンプルで短くしています。更にルールを奥深くすることでユーザーの負担を少なくしながら、競技性を担保しています。このようにゲームの複雑さや競技性はカードではなく、ルールで担保することが効果的としています。

>>532374782
lumimage especially does feel like shit now that nobody plays apollo anymore, but ngl it is a pretty rare combo. most games when i'm faced with amalia they just put down 2pp do-nothings alongside her unless it's very late game.

>>532375010
Its an irrelevant distinction since sword doesn't play neutrals aside from Phildau and Olivia.

>>532374948
The game doesn't have take two because there is less than 50 cards per class, moron.

>>532374554
>When will KMR do something about rune

When can Abyss stop being just Sword 0.5?

>>532374554
Never it's his favorite pet class you're better off dusting your all your decks and becoming a rune main

>no chest for 12 matches in a row
why why why why WHY WHY???

>>532375167
someone posted the link in the last bread but the video got privated i think

>>532375241
>dusting your all your decks
He made that impossible.

Did SV1 had any cards that had abilities as annoying to correctly remember as this guy's?

>>532375224
When they change its name to shadow. Then it becomes sword 1.5 or even sword 2.0.

I have every deck in the format so I don't complain

>>532375189
>>532374812

With the current card pool there's isn't any class able to compete with sword in t2 anyway

>>532375224
Shadow has always been sword forma de undead. Play aggro abyss (blood) instead.

does ramp beat dclimb

>>532375289
>tfw get chest every game but it's 50 vials every single time
>woa purple chest
>100 coins every time

>>532374554
He already did, it's called Sword

>>532375425
>Shadow has always been sword forma de undead.
We need more good last words to make it actually feel different. The ability to reanimate Khawy 20 times in a match would help a lot with making Abyss distinct from Sword.

>>532375380
we dont need to remember anything
pic unrelated

>SWORD
>SWORD
>SWORD
FUCKING NIGGER CLASS

>>532375189
Nobody runs Phildau or Olivia anymore bwo

>>532375510
Ramp beats everything when they draw well

Ginsetsu should have had storm like she does in her sv1 cards

Whatever the era /svg/ will never stop bitching about swordcraft. Love to see it.

>>532375612
Either that or she should have been 8pp. She's 1 turn too slow for what she does.

>>532375420
>muh lumimage
>loses to the most meh combo in the game and cries

Throw bricks at portal niggers
Bash portal niggers legs with baseball bats
Shove portal niggers in front of oncoming trains

>>532375719
swordtard hands typed this

Jsut starting plaiyng forest
Im losing every single game but its fun

>>532375510
It can beat DClimb. Whether or not that happens is a different story. Both decks can brick and high roll.

>>532375719
>NOOOOOO GAMMA CLEARED MY BOARD BUT I WON ANYWAY STOP IT YOURE CHEATING

Should I play anons game

>>532375510
Lamp in this expansion is the gambling addict deck. If the slot machine says you win, you beat any deck. If the slot machine says you lose, you lose to every deck.

>everyone can enter 8 players tourney while only D0+ can enter 16 players
8 players bracket will be easy for farming champion flair in exchange for less rewards.

>>532375689
It's not a tempo play though it's to save yourself from lethal next turn, either via healing or wards. but I still think she should have rush or maybe aura at 9pp ngl.

Here's my lamp boss rush rp deck anyone else run themed meme decks?

>>532374795
>I'm uncertain about the optimal number of 2PP and 3PP ward followers to run. They all have their merits and downsides for summoning in the early game and for being summoned by Aether.
there's also the endgame to consider. 3 drops are better with aether but can't be dropped along with jeanne (unless you've saved +1). Generally I believe a good spread of them at 2x is better then going 3x on a few as it lowers the odds of aether bricks slightly.

YAY
TANOSHI :D

Odin 3x or Odin 2x?

>>532375510
chicken on 6 into twilight sevo on 7 into 2nd chicken + olivia + neptune on 8 into olivia double genesis or twilight double genesis on 9 is the pachinko otk route that is very hard to beat for everyone
you have the ability to stall out the satan otk with filene but pretty sure rune wins the match up due to dragon tumbling on itself most of the time

>>532375914
Of course!

>>532375689
That too, a lot of the bombs are 8pp so youre fucked going first

>>532375914
nyes

>>532376080
2x is the default, but some decks have space for 3.

>>532370763
For WB, they want complexity to be through the base game rules(ie extra pp, EP, SEP) rather than through one-time convoluted card effects

>>532375167
There was a Youtube stream but the VOD isn't public. I assume they'll cut it into the different presentations and upload them separately as videos.

>>532375850
>rune
>dclimb into arrogant twink and paper mache or something idk
>dragon
>dclimb into huge dragons, big tittied women, and fucking shark warrior
choose carefully.

>>532376140
Bets on how long this statement will hold true?

>>532375380
no, not at all
at best probably urias or belphomet 2 or 3, but those are still really easy to remember

>>532375425
Nah, Sword doesn't have cool 0PP 8/8

Why is this not an abyss card

Kuon is pretty tall, he cant be a twink, he could choke you out you know, hes magic so that means even though hes skinny as shit he can still pull your head off without trying

>>532376284
Gachabot my beloved

>>532376140
There's already yugioh for cards do 25 things and the order of the wording matters

When are we getting Deathly Tyrant? I end half my games with 30+ shadows in the pocket, it feels like they're a pile of wasted potential...

>>532376271
And literally in the same expansion in the same deck.

>>532376284
what a terrible design

>>532376470
wdym it was greatly designed

>>532376359
Why is this not an abyss card?

>Play Ward Haven
>Win streaks
>Diamond
>Brick brick brick
>Ruby now
This shit doesn't even make sense. Nobody plays Ward haven so why everyone has all the fucking tools to beat it?

>>532375914
Sure, why not. Just don't play sword/portal or a ton of fun will be had at (You)r expense.

>>532376568
mino wishes this was her

>>532375210
I hope the bullshit school themes never return.

>>532376328
Technically it did.
If we count invoke then Fortress is a 0pp 5/6 storm double attack.

Outskilled

>>532376284
How do you even test the powerlevel of these cards before release lmfao

Speaking of RNG

mino my 1pp 5/5 queen turned into shit

>>532376720
mysteria is already a tag in game anon

>>532376734
Odin is such a lazy fucking card to have designed so early in the game's life. You can tell they really don't give a shit.

>>532376720
I want the academy set to return because they weren't mysteria. Hanna and the rest of mysteria can go fuck themselves tho.

>>532376812
I choose to ignore it as long it remains a rune infestation exclusive.

why does every win condition in this game revolve around hitting your opponent in the face with storm cards?

>>532376816
Fun fact: he's almost identical to the Odin from set 29 (out of 32) of SV1. The only two differences are that he lacks the accelerate ability and has 1 hp less. But because there's a sevo now, he can now actually do 1 more face damage than that Odin.

>>532376940
not rune

>>532376284
This card felt less random than it seems. When you played it for like 7+ cost you could basically expect it do just be a do everything, and the lower cost ones you returned back into your deck with Cassim or something. Also it was nice that a counter against Bahamut mill existed.

>>532376721
my 0 pp mistolina

>>532376940
Tanaka-san is too busy for long games.

>>532376759
The true power of this card isn't in its fanfare effects but on the evo
There was a card that would banish your deck, only leaving 5 cards. You could evo gachabot then and refill your deck.
If the gachabots you got from then on activated the evo point recovery you could do it again to never deck out and outgrind the opponent

>>532376816
Literally the second set

>>532376940
I mean what other way to win is there, mill ? Lock ?

>>532376940
Because there is too much removal in the game so nothing sticks around.
There is also no direct face damage other than storm for the most part.

I recall it's why I quit MTG (on top of the niggers), too much cheap removal so my Timmysaurus couldn't attack ever.
There is a full on white/blue deck in Shadoba now in the form of rune.
If you could play something and expect it to survive then you could have other forms of victories.
Haven is dogshit in part because the huge Aether plays on curve are also just cleared away by a single william.

>>532377028
If you use that on legendary sword commander or peerless warrior, it put a 0pp copy of them in the deck but left the original on the board....

>>532377028
Memories...

>>532377115
You retard.

>>532376652
Current set requirement 1 is being able to clear aether even if you don't encounter her a lot for the mu to not be a 0-100 like with forest even if you don't see it a lot you still run that like for example cutting back to 2 william

>>532377109
>the evo point recovery
The free evo I mean

>>532376940
ok we have listened to your feedback
we will implement t6-7 OTKs caused by healing instead
nexto!

>>532377115
There's an important keyword missing there anon.
>>532377195
odin would be so much worse if it destroyed

>>532377115
The Odin we got is much closer to this one thoughbeit, from the 29th set. The only major difference is the accelerate.

Quite literally what is the response to Anne Grea -> Anne Grea -> Kuon -> Kuon -> William -> Dclimb Satan?

>>532377278
This Odin is the most annoying one by far.

>>532377280
thats a pretty fucking major difference

>>532377258
Absolutely but not having storm would be even worse

>>532377280
This card was ridiculous in Chess/Condemned Rune

>>532376652
Everyone is teching to clear sword boards so Ward Haven boards are going to get cleared in the same way.

>>532376759
the OG shadoba was so spaghetti that they had to resort to testing the cards physically before implementing them

>>532377280
No it isn't retard.

>>532377258
Emeralda was an extremely strong card until she rotated out, and this new Odin is almost strictly better.

>>532377426
thats actually fucking embarrassing

>>532377195
being tied to vengeance, even with blood moon existing, was such a major down side to the card and it was STILL ridiculous. printing it without conditionals and making it neutral is insane

>>532377470
did esmeralda exist in a format where wards spawned more wards on last word or could have "can't be destroyed by effects" ?

>>532376991
>Cassim
Fucking hell don't remind me of this piece of shit.
I remember after a bit of a holdout I just rage crafted the deck and it carried me for days it was so braindead...

>>532377426
>>532377494
every digital game does that, it's a huge fucking waste of work to not playtest before doing the actual dev-ing, there's a lot of designs that stay at the paper phase and never get to be in the client.

>>532377629
https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_125821020_5.mp3
https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_125821020_5.mp3
https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_125821020_5.mp3
https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_125821020_5.mp3
https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_125821020_5.mp3

>>532377569
Yes and she was broken

>>532377569
Emeralda existed in a format where her fanfare could instantly lose you a game against a certain deck, though that's kind of an edge case. Still, the point is, the new Odin is better than she ever was, and it's crazy that we got him already in set 2 while she was a very powerful card even by Wonderland Dreams standards, and that was the set that was considered to have gone too far in terms of power creep by most.

I want to play puppet but I keep losing...
Puppetbros what can I do to get better?

19 winstreak ho-chang

>>532376991
>>532377629
I was actually wondering why they removed resonance and now I finally remember.
They should have removed portal and kept blood and shadow.
Clown devs...
Puppets should be rune anyways.

>>532377140
Taking early SV as an example pic related was the best deck in the beginning. Then the OG Seraph Lapis from the first expansion literally had "Win the match" as effect so you didn't need to deal damage at all.

>>532377748
Um but the geniuses at /svg/ said you're supposed to kill dragon somehow through their 2/2 rush spam into infinite healing

Can you guys post your forestcraft lists? are fairies or roach better?

>>532377743
Wait until next set.

now that the dust has settled, what do we think of superevo

boom!!

>>532377898
Lishenna will save puppetpedos, trust.

>>532377731
well, it's clear they don't want to spend any more time than necessary actually creating archetype cards that make sense so they just give everyone powercrept leeroy jenkins and call it a day.
He doesn't feel overpowered necessarily, he just feels fucking lazy.

>>532377426
Imagine them playtesting artifact
One dude with a 100 token deck and an autoshuffler
Other with with a counter to control the pp recovery and the timer
Other managing the massive graveyard
Other actually playing the cards

>>532377912
i like the festive one better

>>532377743
play sword instead

I fail to see how odin is supposed to be annoying when kuon does the exact same thing at the exact same turn

>>532377909
Made the game worse and will continue to make it worse and worse.

>>532377696
yea okay
but imagine playtesting resonance/artifact into deck effects physically

>>532377816
I remember seething back in the day that forestfags could use this.

>>532377909
it's cool
the ping rules

>>532377909
Garbage mechanic and probably the worst change from SV1 in this game.

>>532377909
I was neutral on it because I assumed it would mean less auto-evos and evo point refill.
Now after gildaria I just hate it, they are retarded.

>>532377140
This >>532377727 was an unremovable follower that couldn't take damage and it terrorized D rank.

>>532375976
Did someone say themed meme deck? Looking for a deck to derank straight to ruby/topaz? Say no more, my Intimidate dragon deck just gets rid of all the ramp cards (all two of them) and the accompanying 9+ cost drags and replaces them with Intimidate do nothings. I wish two of those firestorms were Filnes, the Dark sides have only contributed to a win 2/20 times (maybe I should just Pyrewyrm blade instead?) and Grimnir is the only cope into sword 2/2 ward spam.

>>532377743
Remove any class specific set 2 card in your deck
Add Odin 3x

>>532364614
havensis... i thought this would be our turn...

>>532377909
i love it
another way to add some good shit

>>532378003
kuon is the only storm they have until 10pp
problem with odin is you can play it in any deck
so your dogshit face rush garbage that has a 7 damage finisher that goes through a ward

>>532378096
He also always had ward thanks to guardian sun.

>LOL JUST USE ODIN AND HIT FACE XD
I HATE THIS NIGGER GAME SO MUCH