Thread 535274885

Dark fantasy vampire themed strategy RPG where smart positioning, character synergy and timing your skills define success. Basically Aiona and Bella's game.

>Official launch trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOKiaQfMky4

>“SILVER AND BLOOD" OP Special Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwSVfMPU1no

>Official site and download
https://silverandblood.moonton.com/

Current Events
>Ashes of Time - 08/07~08/21

>Cycle of Destruction - 08/07~08/21
Now and Forevermore, Timeless Aiona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFRFkgo-IzY

The everything you need to know guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kxtXXCGFpfhEKsXOxETxbtWzpKJkEu24nSNOLL_lXY4

Previous thread: >>53460935

Blood is the fountain of life, and the carrier of memories

Long before the dawn of the Continental Era, thirteen alchemists partook the blood of Abel—the First Martyr. Through this sacrament, they unlocked the power of memory-bound immortality. Thus, the first the first Bloodborn were born: Immortal beings who defied the natural cycle of life and death—the harbingers of calamity upon the mortal world

Over a thousand years later the Black Blood disease swept across the continent like an unrelenting tide. Mortals, infected by the deadly plague, turned into beasts, and civilizations crumbled as their people lost their humanity. Amid chaos, a boy named Noah as a heretic and sentenced to burn at the stake for his affliction. Yet, as the flames closed in, a Bloodborn girl intervenes, revealing that he may hold the key to a forgotten prophecy: the Bloodborn’s return to the moon.

Not the original bread baker, looks like I messed up the link to the previous thread. Didn't want us to be homeless.

>Should add "shill properly" in the next survey
I expect apologems moonton, you're supposed to know to have an intern on necro duty and tell the higher ups we need a 4th aiona for the meme.

Left my shitter clan after the last hunt for one that ranked top 100. Clan owner is a sperg deleting anyone who was inactive for 2 days. Just discovered he hasn't logged in for the past three days.

actual old thread: >>534609354

>read info tab about crucible rules
>quick battle referenced
...there's a quick battle button?

granny has it going on

The stages with the crossbow snipers are so fucking annoying

>just learned that Joan, Tris, and Yggdrasil are Bell Ringers

Why are they so fucking useless ingame what the fuck? I thought they were just random mooks like Jestel

>>535280356
Tris is former bell ringer, Joan stomped fire guy so bad he had to use Mass to beat her, Ygg is just trash

>>535280356
Church is cursed unfortunately, probably the worst faction meta-wise. Only Acappella and VH are usable, rest are all trash.

Live2D assets
https://mega.nz/folder/2gIQGYqK#FCr2NVA_fu7uG_0mZB3kVQ

>>535281971
So how are you supposed to put these together

>>535282548
Either there is a player in the game files or the Live2D experts have to tell us how to get them working.

>>535282802
I'm rooting through the game files and I didn't realize that there's just straight up all the cutscenes and ultimates in the game files exposed.

>>535283501
Yea, the video files arent encrypted. I told the AI Sloppers a while ago to use the direct videos instead of screenshots for cleaner data.
The rest of the art and assets are. Im gonna hold of on the 3D models and do the expression sheets first so you guys can make reaction images and such.

>only wincon for the game is survive for 8 seconds until T.Aiona and F.Bella ult together
nice strategic game, sabtards.

>>535283781
To be fair that's only true because the debuff curve is less retarded than nikke and it's 100000% at 10% logarithmic spike. If you could fight their bosses with *only* 50+% penalty at 25% deficit too then they'd also melt to the handful of meta comps simply more powerful than anything else. If, and it's a big >implying if, they actually develop normal pool support units and attackers that provide synergies for multiple teams then having one that at MLB can tickle 30% while the rest pull even to the power of 1 tiaona+fbella then we'll have some options in gameplay based on our rolls. Or they do the dumb thing and never, ever rerun fbella because they have zero idea how to equalize the roster and just will make future chapters exceedingly hard and game killing to account for all the launch players being too far ahead.

>>535283781
First gacha? Every gacha destroys in-game balance during their first releases.

They shouldn't have released two alts in the first month of the game to begin with.

McEmpousa Spoilers

>finally hit your first wall at 11-1
it's over, go on without me

>>535288761
Just dump your stash on T.Aiona's banner, lilbro

>>535289058
I already have tAiona

Ami is truly best girl from Noah's immediate harem

>>535294548
I didn't think too much of her at first but she really grew on me over the course of the boat arc.

>>535291074
This game really needs a model viewer. The Banquet just doesnt cut it.

Give me heavy armor character already
I have of pile of that junk and no one to use it

>>535299768
Heavy armor is a designated brick. To no surprise it drops the most.
Tanks have least attack in this game, they can't deal damage and everything is a DPS race. They won't create a tank that could tank better than Bella with default 50% stat penalty on which everybody typically clears stuff. And in post TAiona game tanks don't do anything in PvP either.

>>535300240
Just have a big titty slim girl defender with invincibility as ult and tanks will be usable again

>>535300449
This, we just need a tank with a passive that prevents death for a few seconds. If only TAgares could keep aggro while reviving...

>>535300449
Bella basically does that already and she also refunds bloodsoul with the help of a certain relic.
You only ever loose when you literally get one tapped, and it's not like such tank would help, because she wouldn't survive to use her ult on such high penalty either. Tanks are just incompatible with the current BP deficit system, they just don't do anything meaningful.

>>535287639
Is Empousa a clone like Lamia or is she actually Limine's biological daughter

>>535280080
The anti Aiona squad, same with the fireball mages, and tentacles

>>535282548
Just like a puzzle

>>535283781
Or you could raise your bp to green levels

>>535300449
However saying I do recall you can stack DR reduction on the engame gear and with the help of the lvl 5+ relic we might make tanks actually tanky.
However, that is such a distant future when you could waste hundreds of hammers to fish for these high DR rolls that it's not actually feasible to even think about committing to it anytime soon.
You can make tanks durable hypothetically. Would you try to do it? Certainly not, because such tanks would get powercrept faster than you'd be able to achieve that and you can't pass equipment investments in this game.
Literally nobody deserves echo gear investment except for TAiona and maybe FBella for attack pieces.

>>535301021
She may as well be the original or one of the first ones

>>535301021
I think all of them are Limine clones. Otherwise, why mention Empousa is replaceable early on. She just so happens to be the winner of the current hunger games

>>535287639
Will Noah finally do something besides the "oh well she died but will live in my memories"

>>535291074
3d Accapella should be smaller

>>535299768
one TankAiona coming up

>>535300449
Or an actual assassin that kamikazes herself with TAiona always

>>535302175
I don't think they will ever release auto-win condition for the attacker. That's anti-whale.

>>535294548
As expected from El Dorado's captain

>>535302464
Maybe unless they sell it to whales first

>>535298967
Not like anyone else survived from that gay ship crew

>>535302175
>assassin that kamikazes herself
Your Mass?

Aiona literally does nothing

>>535309023
...wrong

>>535288761
got past it now 11-2 is even worse

>>535302818
Whales should always win.
Unit that makes defending impossible is not going to be introduced ever. They made PvP the only mode in which you can't control your units precisely to not allow sweatlords beating paypigs.

>MLB+1 sAiona
>and a dupe each on Fred, Gilrain and Thibault
Could be worse for a wall-breaker lineup.

>>535309354
Yeah those dream/nightmares monsters are bullshit. Even with TAiona, you may have to bring the bp gap closer

>>535310091
Gauntlet right? Cause crucible is a mess with their initial ranking, still sitting at 15th qithout paying

>>535299763
Also add more jiggle physics

>>535311120
Crucible is fine actually.
Much less stressful lately. I literally sit on my place for days with people failing like 80% attempts against me. And I also can kill a top guy pretty reliable too. TAiona was a blessing for the PvP, both in offense and defense. At least for now when people have no clue how to use her. I would not like a unit that would make PvP undefendable, I'd rather have only 5 people in my bracket that could kill me than 50. The later would be a nightmare.

How expensive is upgrading t9 gear?
I got my first useable piece and its a chest for f bella but I dont if its worth the cost
Should I just wait for a good headpiece to drop?

>>535315314
>And I also can kill a top guy pretty reliable too
You're lucky you aren't in a group with niggers above 300k bp firmly sitting on 1st

>>535317881
Pretty expensive, it's a massive stat boost when you echo though and getting shit like bloodsoul recovery helps. Just depends on if you need to spend the gold on levels more and if you have 1 hammer to spare

>>535311120
>Yeah those dream/nightmares monsters are bullshit. Even with TAiona, you may have to bring the bp gap closer
Big bottleneck is how they keep coming at you over and over. It is what it is I'll just chill out and farm up some gear and wait for levels.

>>535317881
1.6 million gold per piece.

I've been camping at 15-4 for the past two days. Tried upgrading my gear a bit to see if that would help rather than speed running levels but it did not. Nigga Theo being a tanky cunt. Deficit too large.

>>535318992
post the 15-4 setup with your team on it, I forget what it is

>>535318245
>>535318324
that's a lot, does anyone know if we getting a x2 event soon?

>>535319536
next reset iirc it's 2x then in september again there's another 2x

>>535319606
yeah fuck it I'll wait then, chest pieces kinda suck

>>535318245
>You're lucky
No, there are like 6 people that are 10 to 40k higher than me, it's the same bracked basically with only few people changing. 20 to 50k difference became 10k less, because I simply progress faster and Aiona is a godsend. I got my 3k frame last time, I'll get it this time even easier. You just need to kill people and know how to defend. Aiona helps with that tremendously.

>65 pulls to pity 4th TAiona copy
>5 days 20 hours left
>only 3000 jims
in a few days I'll have to use THAT again

The guide should be removed from OP for next thread. Outdated as hell already, not even made by someone from here as far as I can tell, and likely to lead people astray vs just googling.

>>535319817
I've just been brainlessly leveling everything tier 8/9 on my main team to level 1 because it's such a cheap way to pump BP (1.4 mil to get every t9 piece of gear on all 5 to lv1). Now that I've done that though, and there's no higher spirit to unlock, I guess it's time to focus in on getting one piece maxed.

I'm assuming general wisdom is upgrading the hat for the main DPS? Not really sure what the equipment priority order is because I haven't looked much at it.

>>535322834
Yeah, headgear has priority, unless you've got ancestral t9

what are the ideal PVP Taiona and VH team comps for crucible now? I'm getting fed up white knuckling it as every other ability triggers until the actual dps finally presses the board clear button.

Hati waifu

>>535324984
For Crucible? You pray your Aiona actually uses her ult. That's it. That or you sweatlord it up and sandbag their Aiona team and win the other 2, constantly remaking your comps on the fly for each attempt.

>>535327041
there is a clear priority to auto, someone has to have figured out which units the AI plays over VH or Tiaona. Like with the typical pve fbella-seaiona acapella tank setup it's rotation 4 or 5 before she usually triggers even if she's in the opening hand. VH usually gets priority despite being 6 but healers or tanks can trigger first.

At this point my most consistent team is my "shitters"
>bella, tnoah, cirien, lamia, set as healslut
>cirien or bella usually pops first and drops team wide dot or stun on the enemy
noah sometimes kills the first rotation but it's a low cost burst
>lamia bounce attacks
>noah has full field of summons, nukes the board
>is higher power than most in bracket, has killed VHs before because unit spam and burst damage

lorelie's sleep seems very useful in pvp but I haven't had the time to figure out the team; one of my vh compositions she crowd controls so her ult isn't a waste like others.

reisa is horrific in AI hands, instead of waiting until her ult is 0-1 cost it goes the full 9 every single time

>>535329354
There isn't. I almost never change my teams and I've had rounds where Aiona just flat out refused to ult while other rounds she ults first and annihilates. You can fudge positioning for force FBella to jump on someone but you can't fudge the ult order in Crucible.

>>535329673
>I haven't changed my teams and it continues to be random
that's the point. even if it is totally random (it isn't) there are going to be team compositions where those ults aren't
1. useless
2. high cost
and resultant team more consistent.

>>535330003
And what's the point in a consistent team that's using shit characters? The point is to make your actual carry consistent, Aiona or VH and I'm saying that's not doable in Crucible because the ult order is random. At best it's probably based on some factors like life remaining, distance to the enemy and so on but honestly, I can't be fucked to figure it out, pvp sucks.

>>535330584
>it's random
it has rules. it never pops heal at full health but likely will as priority for survivabilty later. it seems to prioritize tanks for survivability and assassins for (the nonexistant) burst damage. DPS archers, melee, and sorcerers seems weighted evenly. Low cost usually prioritized over higher cost. It has some cooldown to not use the same ability twice. And some rule about low or high power ability use to make a 4/5/6 trigger over a 3 a certain amount of the time.

When vh or tiaona triggers first it's usually a hand composition of 2 equally prioritized dps (her + someone) and a healer that isn't needed yet. When that same hand triggers her like 5th it's when it chooses the other dps, then that's replaced by your tank or low cost support, then it pops you healer because you've taken damage, etc. until it ticks down to prioritizing her as a dps.

>>535331616
>it never pops heal at full health but likely will as priority for survivabilty later.
Then theoretically you can fuck with the enemy comp by putting in Limine that does a burst of dmg on at least 2 characters before the fight starts, thereby forcing their healer to go first while potentially your carry goes first.

They need to give some starting characters a better skillset, they are lacking

I'm 10 rolls away from my ancestral coffin
So which are my best options?

>>535344858
TAmi or THati

>>535344858
why is your hati so off

Oh no!!! Someone save Noah, Darcias is taking him to the church's sex dungeon

>>535349385
I thought this was a modded Warcraft 3 screenshot for a second

>>535319136
I managed to clear it with a couple more equipment upgrades. Under 22% is the sweet spot for deficit. Slightly above 22% is doable pending the stage, but more often than not it's worth it just to wait a couple of days.

>>535339739
It's heartbreaking how many great designs are saddled with horrible kits.

>>535349983
Yeah 15-4 was also the toughest stage for me, you can get through the rest of chapter with 25-30% deficit

Guys, I think Noah and Accapella might be more than enemies

>>535356837
In order, Empusa "Main Girl" Bathory has been cucked and mogged by:
- Ressa
- Aiona
- Lamia
- Hati
- Aiona from the past
- Clive
- Ami
- Piera
- Acappella
- Aiona from the future
Is there any hope for recovery or is it over?

>>535357387
I forgot Van Helsing

>>535357387
Empousa getting keked in her own castle

Imagine encountering TAiona as an opponent in the story... what would be fun (3 months grinding for the lacking BP)

>>535361780
stunlock her

>>535361983
Not really works even with weakest of characters.

>>535349385
Church have sex dungeon!?

>>535362167
Yeah there was some remodeling some 60 years or so ago, when Death was captured

People are glitch abusing noh pretty badly, if you TAiona ult right before augustine kills his target then it won't consume anything and you can immediately use that for fbella on her.

>>535362757
Sounds like a combo between timeloop units

>>535362757
And I was wondering why they pick that absolutely useless in PvE unit. So it was to abuse the bug, lel.

>>535362757
i don't get it

I feel like this event needed the unvoiced challenge mode stuff. The fbella event was too overpacked with crap to do as dailies but this is the polar opposite of press Auto after day 3. No cutscenes in hard mode or post story, those were good in the previous event.

Or it could just need more scrolls or straight gems to buy with event currency. This seems pretty underwhelming, there aren't even red upgrade mats. Most anons will have cleared the whole store by like tomorrow so why in the hell would you ever have bought extra event passes. there's nothing to unlock with them when there is only 7 days of rewards to farm from a 14 day event.

>>535372957
Surprised the store doesn't carry blood essence, also we should be getting a better soil exchange rate. They being too stingy

>page 9
Feels like think we have enough obsessed terminally online retards for a general.

>>535379586
*don't

>>535349695
Silver and Blood does remind me of the old Warcraft 3 campaigns.

Who do I pick, Limine or T.Hati? Is T.Hati as good as people say she is?

>>535347510
TAmi will be then thanks!
>>535349062
What do you mean bro

>>535380684
I have T.Aiona, T.Agares and T.Noah btw

>>535380818
I have Limine and she's great but she's kinda fallen off. I don't have either but I would say T Ami or T Ami would be the better bet if you're concerned with future meta. T Hati needs some more DoT supports to be competitive thanks to T. Aiona being as powerful as she is.

>>535379586
>>535379746
I blame T Aiona

>>535380818
Probably Seth for both Ancestral tower and 1 pvp defense team

>>535382861
>>535384415
Agree with this anon now that he mentioned it. Seth is a good pick. I would recommend holding onto your coffin if you haven't gotten 50 shards from the tower yet as well.

>>535379586
Come on little bat do something to grow popularity

>>535384542
Not a bad idea to hold on for now, until he really needs it for the tower. His 3 ancestors should be nough to obtain another shard, at least if we go by what other towers bp is needed to reach floor 30

>>535379586
they need to hurry up on those memes and reaction images they asked us to ask for in the survey. we can only sloppa so much.

Limine and agares are kind of shit, they don't have many unique traits, agares revive is a meme and it's just for lore

>>535362757
My set up is so exact it trigger on auto lol 90% of the time

>>535386589
im compiling the character sheets so you guys can make your own when you feel like it.

>>535393301
incendiary agares as a S tier something unit definitely hasn't borne out in actual gameplay. Before Tiaona broke the game Tnoah and bella + the one working summoner support was the only way I found to push to a 15% deficit. Doesn't have much use in pvp either because his single target aoe chain can't grind through any characters health/shield/healing meat wall before he explodes into treats, then usually he dies when the AI pops his 0 cost ult and drains all his health as he takes damage. That said everything else is worse than him, we just have ~5 broken units that are better.

>>535379586
There isn't really much going on we've basically already exhausted this event's content.
>>535380256
It gave me a Reign of Chaos-like feeling. You're not far off basically just running a hero-only campaign in SaB.

They have the time to record voices for events but not the main story...

>stuck again
I'll never be able to reach 15-8 at this rate

>>535415115
Stop complaining TAiona babbies.

Quinn - New Moon - Defender - Heavy Armor

Here is her kit:
Basic Attack: Deals a certain amount of damage to the target.,
Passive: Each time an ally takes damage equal to a certain percentage of Quinn’s max HP, Quinn gains 1 stack of “Cloth of Resilience”. When Quinn’s HP percentage falls below a certain threshold, 1 stack of “Cloth of Resilience” will be consumed to restore HP equal to a percentage of Quinn’s max HP.,
Skill: At the start of battle, grants all allies “Umbrella Barrier”. When the “Umbrella Barrier” is transferred, the target ally recovers HP equal to a percentage of Quinn’s max HP. If the bearer of “Umbrella Barrier” takes fatal damage, they instead become immune to all damage for 0.5 seconds, then transfer the “Umbrella Barrier” afterwards.,
Ultimate (3 cost): Unfolds a spectral garden for a certain duration. During this period:
All allies take reduced area damage (Minor).,
Quinn herself takes further reduced area damage (Major).,
Continuously heals allies for a percentage of damage taken.,
,
When the effect ends, consumes all stacks of “Cloth of Resilience” to restore Quinn’s HP based on the number of stacks consumed. If HP is fully restored, the healing continues until the duration ends.

TLDR:
Quinn is a tank who has team wide Cheat Death effect that can trigger multiple times per battle. On top of that, she can also heal all allies and provide DMG Reduction buffs to them. AND she can also heal herself when allies take damage.

Be aware, the skills above are machine translated - they were just released on the CN social media.

Oh shit the gang's back

The plot thickens

>>535415654
>super tank for the now sole viable team
>pvp delay team unit after releasing instant kill unit
>will only further cuck van helsing
glad I hodl'd some rolls

>>535417196
Armor Grampa is back!

>>535417296
Yeah NeferTitty seems like a double agent, so much for that dob story tutorial

>>535420476
Van no longer on altarboy duty

>>535415654
Whales now will be able to survive less whaled Aiona's burst. I was saying they will release invincibility and so they did it.

>>535357387
You forgot Dalcarlo, who basically confirmed has sex with Noah in a tent in the woods. It truly is all over for Empousa.

>>535402990
>the one working summoner support
Who?

>>535415654
>anotha must pull
well fuck

>can't clear 15-3 now
My defenders get pulverized before I can cast my first heal

another 2x event
another bricked month

>>535415654
This looks really strong, SEAiona getting the boot me thinks

Even with double gear drop, I still can't get one single piece of gear. 4 fucking hammers in one day, nothing to use them on.

>>535429880
The rich get richer

Wait so each dupe unlocks 10 more levels of affection? Isn't that kinda huge?

>>535432101
At least Ressa should care

>>535415654
finally a use for my heavy armor gear

>>535415654
>just as I used my heavy armor as fodder
JUST

>>535434106
Only for Ancestors since the 30>40 gives really high boost.

>>535435340
Well fuck me I'll not be able to get every girl to Siphon 3

>>535427405
Does that count tho? Dalcarlo seems like the type to fuck anyone and have schizo moments during it. And fuck them as the cat...

the STRONGEST

>>535415654
>dainty girl with a parasol
>super-heavy immortal tank
kek

Ancestor's affinity does seem a bit pay2winnish.

New girl looks like a Reverse1999 character
Also she's Bloodborn
Spoiler since I have no idea if this is a spoiler or not

>>535437369
>>535437627
I didn't think much of her at first but she's a lot cuter up close

>got a tNoah dupe before you got Ressa
come on give me the fat nipple nun

Is there something going on with the friend requests? It's been 2 weeks or so that I get 5 friend requests all the sudden and most are from players that are full

>>535435663
Yeah it counts, it's actually quite romantic!

>>535435340
Wait, I thought a single dupe was enough to fully unlock bond levels? How many dupes do you need to max Bond an ancestor?

Is there a side-by-side of Thibault and Ressa's models somewhere

>>535439681
3, third one being the most important, because 30+ affinity gives the most stats.

Don't (You) me unless your Aiona looks like this

>>535442602
>6/7
so you don't love her

>>535429880
after much time, blood, soli and dedication I finally did it

>>535450113
Now real seething begins, because finding the required piece of gear is really unlikely scenario.

>>535380256
It's the cutscenes. The little models acting out the scenes without the dialogue at the bottom of the screen like every oldschool RTS used to do it.

Darcias is actually funny

>>535438602
Haha I'll give you my copies

>>535450348
Holy shit the difference in stats is huge

so is everyone stuck at chapter 16 now

>>535455617
I have no reason to push the story now
I'll just relax and grind my new gear

>>535455617
Nope. I'm on 17. Was stuck mid 15 when Aiona released.

>>535455617
Nope I'm at 15-5 stuck farming Clive while the whales continue to get stronger with doubledrops.

>>535469771
I'd like to play detectives with Selena

Need another taiona

>hard walled at 14-4
>need to grind like 5k to get deficit low enough to tiaona these bitches
>right at plot hook for finalish act
>cucked out of another 5 rewards per timeworn mausoleum until I get past it
I'm starting to not feel it mr. crabs

im halfway through compiling the expression character sheets. Some of the skins and some characters that have not made much impact in the story so far will have reduced or not expressions whatsoever but I will include their portraits.

I won't be including unreleased units such as the clan hunt unit and few other units that have yet been seen. Don't want them floating on reddit.

>>535474326
just watermark them with NIGGER all over

Dont forget to do your Prophecy Hits

>>535477315
>how am I 81st percentile instakilling the days limit of bosses
>look at leaderboard
>isn't by time, just by points
>everyone is tiona'ing the birb
>81% of the active playerbase instakilled the birb

>>535478261
the bird is super easy to slap down, it only starts slowing down on level 4 and 5 if you are underleveled.

fuck now I have uneven amounts of SSR shards

>>535474326
Albericht looks like a Dies Irae character.

>>535477315
On one side they learned that many people didn't see the arrow that took you to 6 and 7, on other the rewards of 5 are pitiful

>>535483986
>arrow that took you to 6 and 7
What arrow?

>>535484479
Confused it with Cosmic, summer event had 6 and 7

>>535485405
you made me panic you fucker

>>535485405
>Stages have a scroll feature
>But these stages had an arrow
Sasuga Moonton...

>>535487776
I mean until this event it didn't even default to the nightmare chapters once unlocked

Van Helsing sisters... are we getting cut from prophecy teams?

Thibault keeps giving me dupes maybe I should actually try her. I really do love her design.

>>535489367
unless you retarded reset his skills, no

>>535489367
you'll need him in a week when taiona stops instant killing the bird and you have to actually use a second team.

>>535490839
>>535492340
wouldn't he still suck? his dedicated supports are with t aiona...

>>535493032
before FBella he was off DPS support so he will still find some use somewhere

>>535473450
worst feature they ported over from nikke

>>535494678
World progress not being one of the main tracked stats + actually having a story I don't get why it's been kept around in either game to make the campaign something measured in months. Tower climber nonsense games you can see the first clear and server leader in the UI, here I don't even know which of the 90 leaderboards held by the same whale world progress even is.

As far as systems design it has to be obvious that it player loss over time rather than retention. You can't even spend your way forward so it even discourages the whales.

>>535495952
>You can't even spend your way forward
You can though, you can straight up buy resources to force your team level up asap to brute force shit

>>535495952
>You can't even spend your way forward so it even discourages the whales.
You can literally gain twice as much resourcer per day in extra sermons and buy additional resource options in the shop. Whales do progress times faster even if they are on the same level of tribute with you.

>>535497228
>>535497654
>wawao twice the progress
>it'll only take... a week to go one chapter forward above 15!
when the math is that bad even the whales stop handing over money anons. The tower progress main campaign game design is about showing the world leaders and first/fastest clears. All that is replaced in the nikke campaign map pattern, but the vestiges of the tower climber remain to lose them players.

>>535498279
>even the whales stop handing over money
Yeah you don't know what a whale is

>>535498354
>mode lost it's purpose as the mother design was iterated by new developers
>now just an omnipresent reminder they're not l33t enough to do something in game
>can't be bought out in name of balance
>"u don't understand whales!"
>also disincentives guppies and small spenders who catch on to the math quicker and general game adoption

>>535498279
>even the whales stop
Tell this to that 240 lvl whale. The amount he spent on resources only is enormous.

>>535473450
Yeah, I can handle other modes being challenging or character/skill checks, but when they do shit like this in story, it makes me not want to continue. But given the fact developers do shit like this pretty frequently, there must be enough retards who give them money.

Cannot progress story, so getting those timeworn achievements points. And u got there's some nice lore/spoilers? on the relics. SSR bellringer NeferTitty when?

>>535503212
Ok now this is huge

>>535503378
Seems like most of these are from a timeline where Noah didn't get rescued by the Bathory

>16-6
>survival stage
>replace TAiona with a healer
>BP falls 5k
Oh no, I'm going to be stuck here for a while

>>535504253
Aionass are irreplaceable

>>535504253
Why would you ever replace the best debuffer, the best tank and the best BP sponge? She also kills some mobs and that decreases incoming damage significantly.

See dev if you want me to pay attention these, you have to make these units at least SSR. Who uses SR units past floor 1-1, also why is the flavor text missing from the gallery?

>>535505160
Wait a minute... How is this possible when he was on his way to get executed?

>>535501415
>but they squeezed one drop of blood from the stone
exception that proves the rule. The fact every server has it's 1 guy who's 50 levels ahead in everything and still walled in ch18 disincentivizes all others on spending. You see a moderately active PVP churn but little movement in any of the "tower" leaderboards. All this just means attrition. especially of f2p and battlepass level spenders who are what drive platform store analytics and marketing.

>>535505160
Nevermind, i guess you can scroll

>>535505374
We're gonna have to ask Noah Agustine

>>535505374
A timeline where Agares didn't kidnap him, and Ressa was able to convince him to join Aeon?

>>535505575
>exception that proves the rule
What?

>>535504413
>>535504490
either way, it's gonna be a tough one.
probably gonna get bailed out by the new tank. Or a decent gear drop at some point...

>>535505825
I'm totally onboard with getting alternate timeline versions of the cast as we move forward. No Vassel left behind. We can get a version of Ressa that ain't a brick.

>>535511628
Ressa is not that bad compared to shitters like Tris and Yggdrassil (bell ringers btw)

>>535511628
Oh no, did Noah ntr a childhoodfriend

>>535513152
Surely Tris was hiding her power, what did she do all these 60 years missing in action? Poor little Acapella probably cried herself to bed every night

>>535513152
Is Tree Guy really that bad? I have not used him but he seems like he could be useful.

>>535513152
tris is for stunlocking aiona's and yggdrassil's specialty... is... uh.... being annoying?

Has there ever been a heroine more list?

>>535513783
He wouldn't suck if SAiona didn't exist, he must be weak because he is so old

>>535515415
*lost

>>535515615
in the Beta SAiona didnt have a teleport. Former testers were baffled buffed when she was already good. I feel like Moonton devs are pretty bad at rebalancing other units when they make moves like this.

>>535520628
Devs are Aiona simps, they wanna start a cult

>>535515615
>tank worse than healer at being a healer
the real problem is that he's bad as a tank, which makes the healing gimmick pointless when he dies frontlining.
fredrich and bella both do better as actual tanks because percentage of health regen sucks compared to shielding or summons. Tami as an ancestor feels the most kind of overshadowed because her big thing is just being a functional dps and a solid tank, which ain't doing much besides being ok/10 in pvp and as bad as everything else in deficit fights.

>>535521843
What happens when we get all her memory shards? Will we get an Ancestor(complete/true) Bella tank?

How am I still on this boat

>>535523291
Devs were out of ideas on how long it should take to reach sunset Isle

>>535523291
so you better appreciate leaving the boat and don't question the asset reuse to come

>>535523761
Or lack of voice acting, thst boat ate the budget

Moonton should hire a handful of terminally online artists/perverts/meme makers/artists/cosplayers but keep it off the books thru one of their subsidiaries. Traditional marketing spend is a blackhole. Would do wonders for improve the foothold of its image and reputation. But then again these retards still haven't gotten voice acting past Chapter 10.

>>535523061
we'll get an alternate timeline where Bella becomes a bell ringer for some reason

Is there an alternative timeline Empousa where she doesn't get keked by other women?

>>535526946
A timeline where she was picked by Albrecht and Van by Joyce

Expression Sheets for all playable characters
https://mega.nz/folder/2gIQGYqK#FCr2NVA_fu7uG_0mZB3kVQ

>>535529719
Would the timeline where no little Limine clones are running around count?

>>535530423
Whoops I reposted the Live2Ds, these are the ones
https://mega.nz/folder/24wGkbZJ#PmNR0A21AaefrZAHiC9jkQ

>>535530423
Thabks for delivering

>>535530591
No worries
3D Mesh and Shaders are next
And the Mauso items

>>535530423
She was really angry in that scene, how dare they touch her husband

>>535530804
She was so mad she unrestrained her tits to fight

>>535530512
expected these to be much higher res

>>535533294
unfortunately most games dont use anything bigger than 512x512 if they can get away with it

>>535533294
Budget was blown on hookers, prease understand

>>535530908
which chapter does this happen

>>535543384
End of Chapter 16

>>535545056
2 more months and I can see it

>>535530423
>>535530512
Thanks a bunch, anon

>>535520628
The Vassal design is very bizarre in how most units will have very basic abilities like one debuff or one buff per skill and then a handful will have ridiculously stacked 3-page conditions and effects. Reminds me of how absurd League of Legends' skill design got.

Looks like Stage 3 and 5 of Night of the Hunt are getting nullified from the Overall rankings due to the bloodsoul exploit

>>535568671
>bloodsoul exploit
What?

>>535569510
>>535362757

>>535569510
If you use Chronometer Level 5 or a skill that gives you a direct +1 Bloodsoul such as Augustine's passive when killing units with his debuff, while ulting at the same time (give or take a few frames) you'd gain this bloodsoul, the Ultimate you casted will go through for free.

Essentially you can pop both TAiona and FBella for 4 Bloodsoul instantly and speed up your kill score time.

If all the top players are abusing bugs should I even care to try and get a good score?

>>535571746
the bugged events are disqualified, and you are getting 900 gem compensation
Announcement was on CN site but English will get it shortly

https://weibo.com/ttarticle/p/show?id=2309405200383843893312

Just play Noth 1, 2, and 4 only.

>>535571746
shame granny piera's tit genes skipped her granddaughter

if only the full res art of everyone was in the game

>>535572490
Maybe Piera just wears a tight bra

>>535572715
Did they even draw full 2D art or did they just make the portraits and call it a day?

>>535580402
No one knows, but some china only pieces ive seen imply that there should at least be waist up shots.
This BG is from the BiliBili wiki for the game and you can see that art is bigger and could extend further down.

>>535580961
so they're just keeping the full res art from us for no reason? that's retarded

ancestry tower bonus should have been a blood moon if you trigger any 3 ults of any kind considering without a half-moon ancestor in the game you can't access a key mechanic.

>>535581227
Its a combination of retardation, pushing only the Live2D for marketing and forgetting fuck else, or the great firewall stopping us from seeing the goods.
Look at this piece I just found from quickly scanning chinese game socials. Its clearly drawn by the same artist(s) as the portraits.
https://files.catbox.moe/0f77x0.jpg

>>535581227
Its a combination of retardation, pushing only the Live2D for marketing and forgetting fuck else, or the great firewall stopping us from seeing the goods.

>Tried posting an image via catbox but it freaked out, had to resize it down.

>>535582979
Ok it posted correctly this time
Look at this piece I just found from quickly scanning chinese game socials. Its clearly drawn by the same artist(s) as the portraits. They really arent doing themselves any favors making this unsearchable.

>>535582979
NeferTitty in perfect position to backstab

Not enough vampires

>>535588610
We're getting more next patch bro

>>535588610
...that matter anyways

>>535591625
You know the new girls will end up in Noah's harem and Empousa gonna stay mad munching on wolf snatch.

>vampire game
>only one faction out of 4 is actually made up wholly of vampires
>some of the vampires aren't actual vampires either
>but living armor and puppets
at least the Church faction is actually good, vampire fiction loves to make Catholic Church stand-ins really boring except for like Hellsing

6'0 vs 5'11

Just fought a St Aiona and Acapella in Crucible that refused to die 5v2 and my timer ran out. Their shields kept refreshing. What the fresh hell is this shit?

>>535607006
Silver and Aiona

>>535607006
heals + shield, more heals
echo gear maybe, I've seen screenshots of people running around with 3x 10% damage reduction on 3 pieces of echo gear for Starry Aiona

>>535609342
I don't think shit like that should ever happen. I had more BP than those niggers. It was 5v2 for christsake. I even had a Lorelai putting them to sleep. Shit straight up felt bugged as I was slapping them ineffectually for over a minute.

>>535609738
Sorry to clarify by 3x I meant 3 pieces each with one line of 10%

>>535582979
Artist's style really does remind me of G Yuusuke for some reason. Might be the lighting.

>>535618471
I really want to know if the people whining about wanting more males actually spent more than $5 or are f2p

I want more males since I blew all my blood to Aiona

>>535621696
Eh Noah, i don't think what you've been feeding her is blood. She's not a vampire

So true!

>>535622372
Lol

Those are actually really good things to ask. I'm glad they know about all of this already
Also is the survey resolution shit just for me?

>>535623194
This too

Any suggestions/feedback to write in the survey? Can't think of anything right now

>>535623634
No men in gacha to counter redditfags asking for more men

>>535623634
Ask for Aiona

>>535623412
So Timelines are canon

I'm gonna ask for more vampires and soulbound vessels like Bella and Baphomet

>>535624139
>Mausoleum Ressa gear shows that she won the Noahbowl in a alt timeline
>also got a wedding skin
Not a bad life desu.

>>535624773
Well Joyce is still alive, so there could be others made by him at the church or kingdom
>>535625036
I'd like to think that but it say childhoodfriend(i thoughtthat too from the anime opening), then again maybe they hadn't made her current storyline

I'm gonna ask for the story to focus more on the main heroine Empousa
Also more Setti and Jestel and alternate versions of them

>>535626237
Who's Empousa? But yeah, I'd like some bell ringer NeferTitty and Soulbound Gear Jestel

>>535625036
They should also go back and update her relic, it needs to have the ring from her wedding gloves

Curious

>>535629514
Agares can't help himself from betraying

>>535630001
pathological betrayal?

Just started playing a couple weeks ago. I'm stuck at chapter 14 right now. Have 50k blood power. It is worthwhile to upgrade gear, or should I still focus on pumping levels? Haven't touched my gear at all because gold goes so fast.

>>535632709
Seems like gear upgrades are only good on tier 9 armor(you'll get acces to a hammers to add unique stats) which you get access after 15-8. Probably best to save soli for unit upgrades or observatory if you haven't maxed out

>>535632709
From another anon, ridiculous expensive too

>>535635215
ez recast

>>535634834
Yeah I made sure I've kept up date with the observatory upgrades even though it hurt every single time lol. Okay I'll just stick to unit upgrades for now. I figured that was the case.
>>535635215
holy moly

New player.

I'm considering diving into this purely due to aesthetic.
Two questions:
How f2p is this?
How much of a daily time investment is this game?


Not overly familiar with gachas outside of Master Duel.

>>535637483
It's pretty f2p-friendly as long as you aren't a complete lucklet and aren't trying to be a tryhard on the leaderboards (not worth it whatsoever). Game throws a lot of rolls and gems your way to build your roster. Once you push past the story enough you'll be able to roll on the event banners and you'll want to pick up a copy of Timeless Aiona. She will kind of trivialize content but also help you catch up in record time. Once you get your first coffin selector, you'll want to pick up Starry Eyed Aiona or Acapella. Aiona > Acapella if you lack either.

When clearing out event shops rolls are obviously the first priority but don't skimp on the shards. They will help your overall account strength. Use refills if you need to (won't be an issue for future events you aren't late to).

Have fun!

>>535637483
>How f2p is this
You can play this game fine f2p (provided you start now and burn all your gems getting the current banner character which expires in 3 days, she's completely broken with just 1 copy and will save you lots of time clearing bullshit). Your progression won't be as fast as other people who swipe their cards and you won't rank higher than people who pay to make shit go faster but it's very playable. SSR rates Daily time investment is pretty minimal, I can do my dailies in about 15 minutes but if you tack on events and content it will take longer.

>>535637483
>How f2p is this?
Depends on what you're looking for. It's f2p friendly enough not to have any severe issues with the story, at least comparatively. You can easily finish all event stages/modes. Of course though as it goes with all gacha, you don't do well in pvp and will never reach very far on any of the charts. So all in all, it's pretty decent for f2p players. I just started playing not that long ago and I have all heroes besides 7-8. To complete all the daily tasks it takes like, I dunno, 15min? But if you take event stages, tower of purification, and the story into consideration, it can vary wildly. But those are all things up to you. I've found myself playing at least an hour or more each day just because I've really been enjoying myself. Reading all of the story dialogue and such.

>>535637483
Neglect to mention that the daily grind isn't very steep but the way that it's setup is that you'll need to login twice a day. The second time will often be a quick and dirty claim and then log out. Dailies are on the longer end compared to some gachas but it takes maybe 20 minutes once your account is established? Starting out you'll be pushing content however so your sessions will last a lot longer.

Comparatively the structure of this game is nearly 1:1 to Nikke.

>>535635215
When does this start dropping? The tier 9 stuff I'm getting doesn't have blessings

>>535639579
>you'll need to login twice a day
you don't tho?

>>535640070
That's tier 9 gear with a faction attribute, then it's enhanced to level 5 and a soulstrike hammer is used on it. Getting t9 faction attribute gear is just rng

>>535640351
holy fuck just tried that out and it's so expensive
I'm basically out of gold now

>>535641741
>the item gets stuck to the character after
Wait a minute...

>>535640310
The tribute overcaps to 100% if you don't claim it and just let it be.

>>535641871
yeah forgot to mention it binds

>>535635215
Why are you giving crit to Acappella?

>>535635215
>ridiculous expensive
that's an understatement
it's korean mmo level of expensive

>>535637483
If you're starting now, make sure you only use your gems on the Timeless Aiona banner. She's a godsend for making life easier in every aspect of the game(story, pvp, towers, bosses). 2 copies should possible within 24-48 hours

>finally beat 15-8
Does rushing through chapter 16 unlock anymore shit or can I just take my time and build up characters first?

>>535637483
>lv80 newfag
>2 banners and 3 weeks played
took until ch11 to truly slowdown then ch14 to get to nikke levels of 1 chapter per week creep. have 2/5 characters to crack the 160 wall already and pulled 1 or more copies of all the units that are worth playing (on 2 separate accounts)

It's one of the few gacha's that is worth actually reading/listening to the VA so that helps it. Time wise it's in an ok sweet spot but the dailies are starting to get annoying at only 2x speed. They might fix that with enough survery reeing so the future could look brighter.

events are scaled to be completable if you start during them which is decent design and makes them easy to farm after that point. But that begs the question why the main story is still a fucking gauntlet when there isn't even a leaderboard tied to it.

>>535646293
>why the main story is still a fucking gauntlet
The only thing I can think of is a sort of time gating. They don't want players to rush through the story before they have time to add more to it, so they crank up the difficulty to stifle progression.

Website touts popular voice actors, no more voice acting past the neverending boat ride

>>535647616
That really caught me off-guard too lol. I have the Japanese voices on because the English ones weren't doing it for me, they're really good as they tend to be, but then they suddenly stopped. I was confused as hell.

>>535647616
Ch10 and Ch11 were added after it was pointed out they were missing
Chapter 12 and onward are being recorded
Past 2 events have been voiced

Where can I get tier 9 gears?

>>535648507
>Ch10 and Ch11 were added after it was pointed out they were missing
>Chapter 12 and onward are being recorded
>Past 2 events have been voiced
Not fast enough, i want compensation

>>535648750
Beat 15-8, then beat Head of Aeon from the boss section(zagon, baphomet, clive, sheila)

>>535648750
After you breach 15-8
Just a heads up it's not easy

>>535648159
I guess it's kinda better that it lets you continue with the story, but I'm probably not going back through ch10-15 to listen to the voice acting. Especially since the scenario replay sucks

>>535649310
at least it doesnt make you replay the missions to see the story

>>535656694
I just stopped running FBella because of that

>>535640310
It's actually 3, because login exactly 12 hours between each sessionr is hardly achievable.

damn, empousa can do THIS?

>14-4
>wall for the lv65 timeworn mausoleum
>63920 power
>clears in the 70k's pop up when checking premades
>sheeeeeit
>sort for low clears
>anons aoina'ing it at 40k
>copy team
>sacrifical bella out front everyone else turtling
>pop off inexpert tiaona fbella loop
>dies instantly after days staring at this brick wall of stunlock enemy spam bullshit

I hardy feel like this is playing a game anymore just pressing 2 buttons, but that's exactly what having red hood turned nikke into and similarly fought the retarded bullshit of stat penalties in a story campaign

>>535663159
>great reward, being hard walled at 14-6
>would be in the top 10 luckchad clinch clear list at team bp
I know the super tank is coming in like 4 days to make the game even cheesier but damn

>clive jr - in some serious danger
>aiona(my wife) - trauma dumping
please tell me it gets better

>>535274885 (OP)
Is this a game that panders to straight males?

>>535667154
yes
you only have to see all the fujos and chinese aunties getting upset every new banner has been female

>>535667825
Have only started playing the game recently and honestly, I hope the game actually gets a good balance of male and female characters. I'm already playing nikke and I'd be sad if this just becomes a nikke clone with a vampire coating

>>535668241
if they add a single additional male character it'll kill the game. They should un fujo all the faggot yaoi character designs the same way they're stealth doubling all the girls tit sizes in character art updates. They are extremely lucky that our boy agares ended up too based and ickpilled for the ganondorf rule34 treatment. We've all seen what (you) do when you have any opportunity to poison an IP.

>33 females
>17 males
Yeah I'm thinking we'll have our first male banner soon

>ganondorf rule34 treatment
kek I don't even want to know

Need male characters banners so I can save my tears.

>>535623634
Full res portrait art.
Interaction with the vassals in the Lobby.
Model viewer in the game.
Rebalance of older units to make them more viable.
>>535623194
I'm usually a serial skin buyer in AL so I hope they hew more to that model. Unique art with a full viewer, unique lines, special effects, L2D interactions, reasonable price.

>6 poverty pull tokens away from being able to get 5 random characters to 4 copies
that didn't take long. Still a long ass time away from actually hitting 160. starter roster definitely helps with this system.

>>535674681
the 4% SSR rate and the 100% shards make the 160 "wall" a complete non-issue.

Thanks, T. Aiona. Don't need 3 team to beat all 5 difficulty of Prophecy boss.

>>535675809
...anon
the 3 team is Nightmare, where the boss has 100x health bars at level 200

now i want an actual vtm gacha... or something close to it at least.

>>535679063
first time I saw the Cain/Abel shit and vampires gaining memories by feeding I thought this was going to go in a more WoD direction but unfortunately it mostly relies on Castlevaniaslop for inspo.

>>535679063
WoD would make a fun collab
If you exlcude all the Mage shit

Is getting a dupe of Pavana worth it if I'm not starved for skill orbs?

>>535680718
yoooo i was thinking about that too. especially with the thing about someone won't cease to exist as long as someone remembers them thingy. idk maybe it's going to be a plot point in the future? someone tell me if it's already happened
>>535681142
hell yeah

>>535667096
>clive jr - in some serious danger
Is he finally gonna lose his vcard?

>>535676595
Anon was probably unlikely to reach nightmare before Taiona

>>535688929
You could say our whole vassals team is made of memories

>>535688771
I got her, so I could to get higher affection level. Already have Lorelei but maybe I'll need a second sleeping unit in the future

Can't fucking believe I fell for the T Hati meme and wasted my ancestral coffin on this piece of shit. Basically useless 99% of the time, meanwhile T. Ami is a constant fixture of low-BP story clear teams, infuriating Crucible teams, etc.

>>535694503
Skill Issue, I have TAmi and dont even use her anymore

>>535694596
Skill issue, if everyone playing the game has the same skill issue, you included. There are a number of story stages where the lowest BP clears all include her doubled up with Bella, and the lowest clears without TAmi are several thousand BP higher. It's all visible for anyone to see.

Then there's Crucible, where skill beyond choosing and positioning teams doesn't even exist because you have zero control over rotation, skill activation, etc. SAiona+TAmi gives you near certainty of successful defense via timeout against any non-TAiona team of roughly similar level+gearing. Even team compositions which routinely fuck up teams several levels higher with substantially higher BP end up stalled by her. If you have a TAiona team and a SAiona+TAmi team, it's almost impossible to get knocked down in rankings by a peer opponent.

The fuck is this interaction lmao

>>535695720
Jordan Petersonevernight???

>>535695696
You know those clears are bracket related right? A character having sporadic appearances might as well be noise.

>>535694503
T Ami gonna get replaced by the new tank for any low BP double tank shenanigans

>>535694503
Speaking of, I just used my coffin yesterday on T Amy. I was only missing her, T Noah, and Seth. Still not sure if that was the right choice, but it is what it is.

>>535694503
Once they release art viewers THati will be dick meta.

>>535695720
Are those Hati, Ami, and Empousa's bodily fluids?

>>535696668
Sporadic appearances sure. But if on most stages of a certain type she features in EVERY low BP clear until you climb 2000+ BP higher, it means something unless you're in a bracket that's conveniently full of people way more retarded on average than the typical bracket. Based on what people have posted here, I don't think that's the case with my bracket, and that's a deeply unlikely fantasy scenario compared to just "TAmi is actually quite useful for Crucible and pushing those story stages with layouts+enemy comps which make double-tank the best option."
>>535697265
That will be nice. Will be interesting to see how she works in Crucible. TAmi's main thing there is that if she survives more than a few seconds, between her and SAiona, everyone will be so heavily shielded that you're just not doing real damage fast enough to avoid timing out, even if you're crushing the team otherwise.

>>535697476
Probably won't make a difference as you have team large enough until you obtain the next ancestor shard anyway. It's not like Taiona or some other ancestor would be added so soon to the coffin either

>>535694503
dumb nigger everyone told you she's good for clan hunt

>>535699912
Stop doubling down on your retardation, her appearing in a few clears on your bracket means nothing. Also low bp clears are filled with whales.

>>535701217
>Improved the Transfusion feature. After optimization, Transfusion Slots no longer have cooldown time, and you can immediately use an empty slot after removing a Vassal from it.
didn't take long

>>535702020
Why did they change that?

>TAiona easily dealing 10 times more damage than the second strongest team
Nice

>>535699912
>2000+
30k BP deficit seems to be the norm for 17 chapter. Without TAmi.

>>535701359
It does mean something, unless you think my bracket is for some reason completely different from other brackets in terms of what kind of team comps people use for low BP clears, which is a retarded assumption. Maybe if it was a newfag bracket, but it isn't. I'm sorry you aren't good enough to end up anywhere on the low BP clear list. If anything whales are slightly rarer than they should be on low-BP clears, because whaling makes it easy to pump up BP so fast. By all means though, cope and tell yourself it's just that your bracket is way more intense and full of whales than every other one.
>>535703058
You misunderstand. I'm not talking about deficit, the gap between the clear and the recommended BP. I'm talking about the gap between the lowest BP clears with TAmi and the lowest BP clears without her, on stages where double-tank is the optimal strat. Very occasionally you see a single non-TAmi outlier, where it's Friedrich or whatever, but based on observable siphon levels etc. those are nearly always extremely optimized whales.

Reminder if you don't get the new tank you're permanently bricked

>>535704225
>I'm talking about the gap between the lowest BP clears with TAmi and the lowest BP clears without her
Maybe she can survive two more hits than light armor, onbviously. However, people have invested DPS supports with dupes and affinity, while their T.Ami is much lower. So in the most unlikely scenario where your T'Ami is the same level of BP as your main supports she might give you a slight advantage. However since she is much lower BP, that's basically never the case. For her to be useful you need specifically her dupes and all other meta supports not built.

>>535702530
Annoying vestigial mechanic.

>>535694503
Are you sure they don't include certain stuff like lvl 5 fruit of immortality or chronometer and echo gear on tanks with potentially DR rolls? Because if that's the case, you aren't talking about TAmi but rather certain investments.

>>535704225
>still going on about TAmi
In Chapter 17 nobody uses TAmi unless they have Siphon 4+, everyone is using Friedrich

>>535704786
Ok so it's not just TAmi, you're saying double tank is never optimal. lmao, no wonder you think low BP clears are for whales only. It's not the most common type of stage, obviously the standard-issue meta team of Bella+FBella+TAiona and some combination of SAiona, Acapella, or Lorelei (depending on the enemy types and positioning for the stage) is best for most. But when you run into something that team isn't optimal for, it's nearly always a double-tank favoring one where TAmi is your best bet. Anyone who's been playing for a decent amount of time should have those core 6 built up already, and she's an extremely solid 7th choice. That extra couple of hits makes all the difference. She's certainly far more useful than fucking THati.

>>535702530
Having a 4 hour cooldown was probably only affecting f2p the most

>>535702841
She really leveled up in that end of time place

>>535704240
In pvp maybe

Wat the optimal thing to do while echoing gear?
I got crit damage, mdamage on a T Aiona piece l, both low level
Can I get a third stat by recasting? Or do I just refine it? Is crit d even worth it with base crit chance?

>>535707637
Crit should be good as it affects every one of her basic atks

>>535706521
I'm in 17-9 and i almost never see TAmis, it's always Acapella and Friedrich. Friedrich is a much better meatshield than her. You are a retard who saw her a couple of times and think she's a super secret meta unit when she's just a toy for paypigs.

>>535701217
>(6) Profile now includes a Bio feature.
Thread guild can finally kick randoms. I'm not in it though

>>535706521
I'm just saying that in the game where every additional tear is earned by winning a DPS race against your opponents in both PvP and PvE, nobody is going to invest significant amount of resources into any tank, besides Bella. Maybe the new one tank will change it, because it gives invincibility and heals, so this one is not a placebo but a very strong support on par with Bella. But as for other tanks... TEmi is fine in crucible, I guess, but that's it.

So the new tank prevents all party from the first fatal hit and also heals.
This means that the typical scenario of extremely low BP where Bella dies before she can summon her second wave of puppets is basically not an issue anymore. That means that TAiona is going to be able to press her ult before any party member actually died. That is huge. Especially since we all get 5 lvl chronometer in a few days and our rotation will be sped up by additional 2 seconds.
People will be able to clear way ahead of their BP now.

>>535708336
14, 15, 16, and very early 17 are overwhelmingly TAmi in double tank stages, with the best Friedrich clears at significantly higher BP. It's entirely possible that because of enemy types etc. this changes by mid to late 17, though.
>>535709816
And I'm saying that while this is true for most stages, if you want to be competitive in terms of low BP clears, there are stages where you need to double tank. There's room to argue (like the other anon I'm replying to) over whether TAmi or Friedrich are better, based on chapter/enemy type, but arguing that double-tank doesn't have a worthwhile niche is just wrong. I'd never recommend that someone invest heavily in her before the main meta 6, but having her at 5/5/5 and with good gear on her is more useful than doing so for the overwhelming majority of vassals outside that main 6, and way way way higher priority than THati.

My guy genuinely has chemistry with everyone no diddy

>>535712880
That part with ami was funny as fuck too

>>535712629
>still at it after being told multiple times that clears are bracket locked and how low clears are overepresented by whales

>>535717198
he's literally just making it all up as we post more info about later chapters that he isn't even near yet

where are people seeing which teams people are clearing the map with

>>535712880
Bro be embracing everyone and everything
>>535717198
And how many of those clears are by pre-ban of cheating accounts

>>535722740
The button above the button for deciding your first three ults

maybe i'm missing something but
ashen garden
>noah: i trust you the most aiona
el dorado
>empousa: why does this motherfucker like aiona more than me
i don't think it's even been a week. does becoming a bloodborn give you attachment issues or something. granted it was a pretty funny scene

They really need to put some more actual healers in. Seth is basically fucking required in all this solo/clan raid content because you have SAiona and that's fucking it for healing. Second team you can cope with FBella and Acappella and third team is fucked.

>>535726660
It's been less than 3 days. Bro became an elder in less than 24 hours too

>>535727573
That's why you get an ancestor coffin

>beat #4 in crucible easily because his setup is garbage and attacker bias
>he beats me back because lol attacker bias
>use my second attempt
>third team, his VH ults first
>my Aiona doesn't ult at all and my team goes through all 4 before her
What an RNG fiesta this garbage is. I've tried putting her as solo full moon, different positions, nothing really works to force an ult, she either does it or she doesn't.

>>535731074
I always thought it went in the order of highest to lowest cost and left to right in the first set of 3 ults, then when new ults get revealed they get put at the bottom of the priority until the initial ults get used unless it bugs out in which case no ult gets used.

>>535731074
It's sort of odd in general how the game operates. It's an auto battler, but.. not really? Depending on the exact fight, or the exact boss, you need to manual to be efficient, and other times you can just auto everything. Seems very arbitrary.

Should've tried harder on prophecy, just tried a team trial and almost did 2x what i did in the morning

>>535737497
Nah I'm mostly checked out of leaderboard dickmeasuring.

>>535695720
Hati's room is dirty!?

What should we say about T. Aiona's gameplay in survey, bros? Very satisfied?

>>535739228
yeah, only people complaining are whales who literally send multiple emails saying to never release anything as strong as TAiona ever again because it doesn't let them dominate other players

>>535739228
She raised the floor for everyone but she blew away the ceiling as well. I don't like powercreep at this level where it warps the game around it completely. You can do powercreep in a normal way instead of this bullshit.

>>535731074
Your Aiona team should be all 3 cost ults to quickly cycle a bad RNG

>>535739060
It's a dog's room after all

>>535737497
Got 65kk instead of 55. There isn't anything to improve much. Without echo gear my Aiona can't deal as much damage as whales' one.

>>535740593
TAiona is strong but it mostly her combo with FBella that produces such digits. Even VH was seen as strong for entire two weeks. Other comps don't have dedicated damage amplifiers of such magnitude even if their personal damage would be otherwise on par.

>>535739228
I said unsatisfied, she has too many mechanics. Damage output and shield and debuff is too much, pick at best 2.

>>535739228
Naturally. She is the only character that looks and feels 'limited'.

>>535712880
>My guy genuinely has chemistry with everyone no diddy

Wished he showed that chemistry with Empousa my poor forgotten heroine

>>535737497
Just hit rank 35, my TAiona game is weak and my rotations are shit, THati DOT and shitter team (lamia spam) puts up decent numbers for what they are though. If I can scrape a few more mil I'll can probably break top 25.

>>535739228
Nah fuck her, she killed team building

>>535747207

True her ult should last 30 seconds

>>535739228
>What should we say about T. Aiona's gameplay in survey, bros? Very satisfied?

Fuck no she killed team building why would you ever use another jobber dps when this bitch does 10x times more damage than any other dps? and it happened way to fast

>>535747594
Ackchually it's only 3 times.
Anouther 3 times comes from her hoarding FBella. First of all, there are no other buffer like her, secondly, she is the only new moon that don't waste bloodsoul and actually does very impactful ult. Not having usable new moons outside of pure healers/tanks cripples other parties significantly.

>>535748147
>muh fbella
Nigga shes launching 10 attacks per seconds, each doing max HP damage, any moderately strong atk speed buff would make her busted

>If you idiots are smart enough to rate her high they'll release more units with similar power and multiple mechanics
>if you seethe and cope they'll strip back unreleased units to be as weak as you demand and Tiaona will forever cuck (you)
which way western gaijin

>>535749032
Retards don't understand that they will be forever gated behind high diff shit and crushed in rankings without equalizer characters like TAiona. F2P can literally compete in ranked events and content to a certain extent with dolphins/low level whales due to FBella + TAiona if they play smart.

>>535749032
Meh im just pissed cuz i wanted to build a summoner team which are fucking dogshit compared to TAiona that can clear shit even at 20k BP deficit

>>535748806
Yes, but the damage comes from.
Her receiving major attack speed buffs from FBella.
Her receiving major all damage boost buff from FBella.
Her receiving attackboost buff from FBella.
Her receiving flat damage buff from FBella.
Her receiving fullmoon phase buff because FBella not only is the best of the best in terms of raw damage amplification she is actually the only unit that allows your party to enter bloodmoon without wasting bloodsouls on any useless ult. And that you use Acapella that refunds enother bloodsoul into the party and use free bloodsoul to further rotate party and stack buffs with discount.
Her party is basically her and dedicated turbobuffers, her party is the only one you could call 'meta', while every other party is just a clasterfuck of random stuff, because all good supports went with TAiona.

>>535749295
>F2P can literally compete in ranked
I actually never cared about that stuff, only difference for me now is how bored I get running the same team for absolutely everything.

>>535750184
What team you were running prior to TAiona?

Hati would make a really fun gf tho

>>535749315
tnoah is stronger than helsing and cecia is a team wide summoner buffer and low cost AoE dps. Bella is also the strongest tank in the game (for another week). I was pushing 15% deficit content with a summoner team before Tiona made it her game and summoners are my 3rd statstick team that can mog a vh in a pinch in crucible.
>but I didn't have tnoah
then you didn't have a summoner team

the only way for them to "fix" summoners is to release a summoner dps buffing healer that'll make people who don't have good noah seethe and sneed. If you told them to make sure all new units are weak so you don't have to pull then thanks for fucking that up m8

>>535750184
You'd probably be running the same comp with Van instead to push content if it wasn't for TAiona though. Also you can essentially run whoever you want until chapter 10+ and even then you're only stopped due to high BP diff that you weren't going to get past without waiting a day or more anyways. Nobody is stopping you from not running the same TAiona team, that's something you force on yourself if you don't care about ranked.

>>535750670
>(for another week)
She'll continue being the strongest. The new tank is supplement not replacement. You now can build super tanky setup that anything besides TAiona would have hard time killing.

>>535750635
Absolute trash, both for sheila and clive.
Think for clive I was using F bella on ghilrain or some shit to get frag 8
Sheila was a mess and the wings would nuke my team
>>535750871
I don't have the queer, but I was progressing with 15% deficit abusing Lorelei

>>535751527
>FBella
But your game was already dead, because FBella makes any normal attack unit significantly stronger than any other alternative. It's actually less copypaste, because unlike VH she doesn't require specific setup for PvP to kill other party, so there is lots and lots of variations. There was no variations in comps prior to her release.

>>535752487
u right man, t aiona is actually super fun and balanced. she doesn't actually have both insane single target and aoe damage while providing utility and being unkillable. She did not, in fact, send every single other dps 3 tiers down and make things like reading boss skills a waste of time. Silly me.

>>535753110
Literally not the argument, stop moving goalposts

>arguing that taiona is borked the game
oh no better not tell anyone about the powercreep in 6 months from now is gonna look like

>>535753110
Actually yes. Because before the one with the most whales VH and FBella was always winning.
TAiona kills their entire party in seconds and unlike VH you can actually kill a whale with an F2P setup. That made PvP much more interesting for these 2 short weeks. It might be broken by the very next support, but it was fun while it lasted.

>>535753396
>stop moving goalposts
i thought we were talking about team building and balance?
And I agree with you, without fbella, t aiona would be kinda meh.
>>535754041
>caring about competing against whales
>in a gacha
anon...

>>535755114
If you don't care that other players are significantly stronger you and are farming endgame gear weeks ahead of you, what's you problem with TAiona? Just play your Gillrain and die everybody just like you were dying before, because Gillrain was nowhere close to the VH level. What's you point? The meta was cemented with the release of FBella, it was already dead by the time TAiona released.

>>535755636
>what's you problem with TAiona
that she trivializes all content
>play your Gillrain and die
Might actually start enjoying the game some more, gtting some t9 gear with him seems slightly more challenging
>Gillrain was nowhere close to the VH level
Closer then VH vs taiona lmao
>meta was cemented
Why? Because auto attacker were first to get a dedicated support? Was VH + Fbella so busted that you could auto farm the last bosses?
But you know what, if you enjoy the game more now, then good for you (like unironically, not trying to be a cunt), think it jsut aint for me

>>535758954
>that she trivializes all content
Not your problem. You are playing Gilrain that loses to everybody and barely can kill anything. What other players do, concerns you not.
>Might actually start enjoying the game some more
And I enjoy farming endgame content without delay and being able to compete with paypigs.
>Closer then VH vs taiona lmao
No. Gilrain has 0 chance of winning against meta VH team. VH have no chance of winning against meta TAiona team. They are equally useless. It's just you still can use VH as secondary team, but Gillrain was never useful.
>Why?
Because FBella and VH combo were dealing twice as much damage than other comps and you could never win VH team with anything but another more whaled VH team in exact same comp.
Nothing change it's just VH was replaced by much stronger direct powercreep and the reliance of FBella dropped, because TAiona does not require specific setup to kill opposing team, thus the variety of comps was born, depending on what type of formation you are facing against.
TAiona is just better unit to be at the top of the meta, compared to VH who was just inflexible and honestly dealt not enough damage to ever be able to deal with whales. Despite being the strongest unit he was too weak and thus everything became dull p2w. You cannot win a whale using VH, he was a bad unit for the game.

I liked TAiona, but I wouldn't mind a power increase (and fixing) of some of the other units too

New character when?

>>535768668
2.1 days for another mustpull

>>535274885 (OP)
>>535274885 (OP)
>Official launch trailer
Nice

Do both Prophecy attempts count? Or only the highest score?

We need empousa buffs

Empousa must fight limine for dominance

>>535691093
he really died a single father. rip my mans

>>535778629
for nightmare you get two attempts per day and and your highest scoring attempt across all days is used for rankings

Should I save my fragment residue? How bad is the 160 wall?

>>535785903
If you can use it to break the wall (and are at the wall) and can break it by using them, then do it.

you know who you are retard
don't do that again out in the open

>>535785903
if you're at several 3/4 characters in your 130's and an organic 4/4 or more via luckchadding then you're good for hitting 160 in like another month+ of daily login grinding
>t. have my 5 shitters planned already
just hold the currency/coffins until you need them in case you get some good luck in the next couple banners from spooks. Ultimately this seems like it'll be possible to dump all your extra resources into good standard characters by waiting on the daily shard rotation to let you mlb your seaonas and hellsings for extra unit power.

>>535785903
It's not nearly as bad as Nikke's but you should save them anyway, not like you can use them for much else.

I somewhat made progress with the Live2D model situation. These shits were made with Spine2D, not Live2D, so you have to work with the .atlas and .skel files in an application that can import them. You also have to rename the "atlas.prefab" and "skel.prefab" from the TextAsset folder and drop the prefab from the file name.
You can supposedly get them working with Live2DViewerEX + Spine Expansion but the hell im paying some random chinese sweatshop's hacked Live2D product to use another chinese sweatshop's gacha assets.
I'll hopefully get something working in a day or so.

>t aiona's banner gave me LB3 Limine, LB1 Lamia and TAiona
A sucess

Actually I think I got it

>>535788485
>>535792562
Thanks bros
>>535794791
Surprisingly nikke ain't that bad these days. I think I was able to break it in like a month of playing the game thanks to the free alices and drakes + selectors at 100

>testing
ok this player is kind of alright, but im gonna look for some other ones to see if I can customize and/or emulate the original backdrop from the game

>>535798908
are they actually rigged for Z axis and expressions/component bones or just a data file for the jiggle loop Chang made by image stretching?

>>535800198
there is some camera work involved but otherwise like all Live2D models and animations, its just segmented image manipulation from several sheets

>>535800973
gee acapella why does the church let you have TWO masks

>>535805315
why does a doll need such an erotic body

>tier 8 with a faction attribute
What do I with these? Do I just feed this into my tier 9 gear or save it?

>>535809948
Yeah, doll doesn't need big tits,

>>535810075
Just equip the remaining characters
You need 15 fully equipped by the end of the day

>>535797134
Looks nice

>>535809948
>>535811438
gay boy moment

My Taiona is cockblocked at 80

Taiona is making the game more fun and less fun for me at the same time

>merchant ship II
I can't believe I'm getting fucked by the guard in the stupid puzzle. I'm fucking dying faster than I did in the hard stages

>>535833261
yea that guy is a nigger, havent tried fighting him in a couple days

Was able to jump from 10th place to 6th place in crucible, Vankek actually killed the highest bp team in my fight lmao. Won't be going any higher though, everyone else is full of 4 or 5 dupe teams

>Start having fun with the L2Ds
>get a crazy idea
>regret it
This shit reminds me of the awful Captain America cover

>>535835416
Time hasn't been kind to him

>>535812906
this is missing the ass bounce she does after about 10 seconds

>>535840631
The idea will be once I figure out which Live2D Viewers are the useful ones and which can do what, I'll link them and do a quick instructional with the files so you can import them properly and goon to your hearts content.
The one I'm using right now for video exports I cant add backgrounds when making videos if the assets dont specifically have a backdrop included like TAiona, nor can I make stills with transparent backgrounds (chroma keying the background sucks ass). There is another viewer I found that can do it but it sucks at finetune controlling the resolutions you want when exporting as images nor does it export video correctly for the same reasons.

I'll do what I can, I'm juggling a lot of things outside my depth and normally wouldnt be doing this but I like this dumb game.

>>535842783
The only way to improve is to push yourself anon. Proud of you.

finally got the 4th copy

>>535849094
Good job, im gonna roll on the final day for a 2nd dupe because thats all I got left.

Ok Ive had my fun for now, I'll get the general info shit working on the players that have worked for me.

>>535842783
You're doing God's work anon

>>535853525
eeeehh is this from the game?

>>535863107
its clearly the game's assets but stripped down and manipulated

didn't realize just how much I depended on tAiona until my second team made heavy weather of taking off 8 health bars off Phoenix and nearly hit the time limit to do it

>>535867660
>have team with no movement ult
>dies in 4 healthbars
>have team with poverty movement ult
>also dies
>taiona kills the orbz herself, never use seaona at all
if it didn't not matter at all I think I've been overstacking my tiona team. But even if they lived the difference in damage output is too comical to make it even worthwhile. We'd probably all be same rank by just running the taiona doomstack and putting lv1s for the next 2 turns to make it end faster.

>>535867660
I find that TNoah does decent against the bird, pop his ult when all the feathers are down and it's a decent chunk of dmg.

>>535870702
Why do you run SAiona with TAiona if it's other teams that are struggling to survive.
Isn't that obvious that you run Saiona and Ami with carries that are not called TAiona?

>>535876726
>sweat a leaderboard
>van helsing team does like 4 whole additional bars of damage wawao instead of dieing at the halfway board clear
>go from 9.7 to 9.6 in the rankings because it's the aiona game

>TAiona teams doing literally 10x the damage of the other two teams
>pic related is an early solo raid from Nikke
>the top team wasn't even running Modernia (the Aiona equivalent)
dunno how Moonton managed to fuck up the balance this badly a month in

>>535877058
>Van Helsing team
Anon, there is no Van Helsing team when you use TAiona. Don't you see that all whales slot him with TAiona and never touch his ult? He just autos, because at least there is global fuggers in that team.
Van Helsing is not a unit in TAiona's game he doesn' have a team. You run other teams, they deal more damage than buffless Van Helsing.

>>535883772
I honestly have no idea how she hits so hard

>>535883772
That was their intention.
They intent on building the whole game around ridiculously strong Ancestors and keep selling the whole suit of supports for them.
TAiona sells herself and a whole bunch of other SSRs that are neet to run with her or maybe counter her some way in PvP later, that will also be in high demand.
Many people skipped previous SSRs because they are not essential to the game. Aiona's supports are essential, you can't skip them without severe gameplay consequences.

>>535883772
they fucked up really bad, no clue how they will make any worthwhile content with her around
>>535884272
each AA she fires out seem to apply the max hp%, which ignores defense for some reason

>>535883772
yea its pretty bad Taiona is not healthy for the game since they will prob start releasing content centered around her (or else it will be just a joke with how easy it will be with her) which just makes every other dps already more worthless than they are already

Dropped past rank 100 and scrawled through WGSB's livestream to see how he got top rank. Turns out people are just using a chinese video and following the rotations, I did the same and jumped to rank 10 for the time being. Here's the bilibili video WGSB copied his prophecy rotation from:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1yqecz1Er5/?buvid=Y544F5557ECS0FBD44DB839SB904OB7185099

Or you can use my scuffed notation (ymmv I have acapella ult lv7 and echo gear no BSR):

@ 5PP: acapella
8pp: TAiona -> FBella -> Acapella -> Sirene -> TAiona
wait...
9pp: FBella -> (mechanic) -> Gilrain on Mechanic -> TAiona when balls are between A/B keys moving back -> acapella -> sirene
wait...
9.5pp: TAiona -> FBella -> Acapella -> Sirene
wait...
8.5pp: Mechanic -> Gilrain -> TAiona when balls are.. -> Fbella -> Acapella -> Sirene -> On TAiona Skill Finish TAiona again -> Acapella
wait...
1:42
8pp: FBella -> TAiona -> Sirene -> Acapella -> Mechanic
wait for 9.5pp in mechanic -> gilrain -> FBella -> TAiona when balls -> Acapella -> Sirene -> On TAiona Skill Finish TAiona again -> Acapella
0:43
wait for 8pp: FBella -> wait for mechancic -> Gilrain -> TAiona when balls -> Acapella -> Sirene
wait 8pp -> TAiona -> FBella -> Acapella -> Sirene -> Gilrain Done (YMMV after Sirene due to timing)

For teams 2 I just used the DOT THati team + SAiona, and team 3 is whatever I could throw together with high bp.

>>535892743
Too much of a hassle

>>535894617
yeah I was going to let it slide but noticed he didn't make a video guide yet and I got bored

>>535895307
Thanks nonetheless anon
It's good to know about it even if I won't do it

>>535892743
Cool, I tried it out, fucked up about half way through, but still got about 25% more damage out of the Aiona team
Napkin math says I'll be around rank 150 if I get around to doing the round 2&3, so thanks for the moon tears

>>535892743
thanks
i'll try it out tomorrow after i hopefully luckshit some more t10 gear for aiona

bump

>>535892743
Thanks for the info; even if it didn't change my results. My team 2 and 3 are just dead weights

Sex with hati

>>535903408
For me, it's Bella

I want to make little bat babies with Limine, uncle Cain can be in charge of raising them "hunger games" style like her other clones

Bella and Aiona game

You now remember

>>535912045
>through the looking glass/mirror personality via reflection in the water motif
>did nothing with it
>1 piece of art just shows slutty lorelei and sluttier lorelei
>played no part in event
>plays no part in bond story
We need a bond/sidestory with cutscenes about the new addition to the harem settling in at the castle and her ability to magical girl transformation into a literal creature of lust.

>Whale THati team deals 16kk
>my whatever team deals 10kk
THati is a fraud, isn't she?

My game is completely broken. Game kept prompting me to download the new version from the website so I did and the new launcher is permanently stuck at 99%

Got the new update from the asia server,
will begin leaking. Character Sheets and Live2D links will also get updated with new content.

>Quinn Ult
https://litter.catbox.moe/s27t72cd0ybdsvfr.mp4
>Agnes Ult
https://litter.catbox.moe/jgj9ynsngygyq3h5.mp4

>>535916438
literally just close the game and run the exe from the Silver and Blood folder

>bella's puppet: sowwy
it's just so peak

>>535917026
>pic
whomst?

>>535921552
Agnes, the other new gacha Vassal
>Live2D
https://litter.catbox.moe/74gujq66nd91rycm.mp4

>>535917026
someone makes a de-censor version of this plz

>you can still delete letters in the collection if you're not careful
I almost fucked myself because of muscle memory

Expression Sheets
https://mega.nz/folder/H8IABYIR#PmNR0A21AaefrZAHiC9jkQ

>Agnes Added
>Baphomet Updated
>Bob Updated
>Friedrich Forsworn Fate Added
>Quinn + Briar Rose Added
>5 new Event NPCs Added

Live2D
https://mega.nz/folder/OhxFHSTa#FCr2NVA_fu7uG_0mZB3kVQ

>Agnes Added
>Quinn + Briar Rose Added

I missed the survey... it is still possible to do it? Any links? Do they put the survey outside the game?

>>535931917
my survey hasnt expired at all, check the system tab and scroll down, it should still be there.

Speaking of which
That top option... what an odd thing to say

>>535924236
Tits in fishnets

>>535922052
oh my science!

>>535933754
Which server are you? I'm on Asia server.

>>535933754
The mausoleum relics already talk about possible alternate timelines so it's not that odd. A proper event about the mausoleum would be nice. They could even use the rougelike gameplay for the event stages and give a reason to bring short range characters

whoa I just let my teams on auto

very nice

what's frenzy? is that new?

>>535925287
the angle is so bad holy shit. It makes her look like a fuckin dwarf

>>535924236
>>535925287

Why should I roll for these banners when the message is clear that I should just save for the next limited and ancestral characters?

>>535943495
>roll
She gets added to the reg banner, the other on you get for free.

>>535943495
You really shouldn't. I've been keeping my perfect shards and standard rolls, I'll just put them on the altar and wait. Unless some bullshit strong character comes out, I'm only rolling on limited and ancestral characters now.

I got half of the Live2D write up done.
Post it now or wait till its all finished?

>>535946040
B-Baphomet?

>>535946040
wait till finished

>>535946040
Umm delicious saggy booba

in the end the tAiona banner gave me S I X sAionas and one tAiona

what do I use these on

>>535954238
Chrono Lv 5

Leaked in-game text of Quinn's kit.
No number values but it shows which values will increase when leveled, compared to the vague shit in pic rel


>Lightbound [Talent]
When allied units lose HP equal to {0} of Quinn's Max HP, Quinn gains {1} stack(s) of Scar of Crowley, up to a maximum of {2}. Once Quinn's HP Percentage falls below {3}, 1 stack of Scar of Crowley is consumed to restore {4} of Max HP.

>Parasol Dance [Special]
After battle begins, applies Parasol Shelter to all allies. When Parasol Shelter is removed, restores HP equal to {0} of Quinn's Max HP to allies.
When taking fatal DMG, blocks that DMG and all subsequent DMG for 0.5 sec, then removes Parasol Shelter. Cannot be dispelled

>Sunlit Garden [Ultimate]
Channels {0} sec, creating a Garden.
During this time, all other allied units gain All DMG Taken Down (Minor), while Quinn gains All DMG Taken Down (Moderate), and continuously shares {1} DMG taken by all allied units. If the DMG shared is M. DMG, Quinn won't be affected.
After casting her Ultimate, Scar of Crowley restores {4} stacks, while Quinn restores {3} Max HP every {2} sec until her Ultimate ends.

>>535954981
Pvp unit and may be helpful for a couple of story stages like the birds diving your backline but that's about it. She completely and utterly powercreeps treeman though but that's not much of an achievement.

>>535954981
Guess will find out if she's any good in pvp tomorrow, will it tank TAiona's laser of doom or will it be a minor annoyance

>>535956773
4% Max HP damage is very annoying to deal with.
I would be impressed if Quinn's special manages to tank her nuke.

>>535957678
Yeah that invincibility window is very low, doesn't TAiona ultimate last 12 seconds?

>>535955775
>>535956773
>pvp unit
She's going to be meta for pushing high diff (aka all story) content because she can help keep your frontline alive long enough to pop TAiona + FBella in situtations where you can't just immediately pop them because your frontline crumbles instantly.

>>535958095
Roughly 10 seconds, with a 2 second delay before the ult hit, and a second after the buffed basic attacks start, so you have roughly a 7 second window to some how survive.

hate to say it but only a team wide 15 second long damage reflect is going to stop aiona

i need this game to be more popular. where are the fanarts, the cosplay, the schizopostings. fuuuuuuuuuck

With /vg/'s track record she'll turn out to be a must-roll.

>>535959459
The chinks botched their launch window in the west, but its slowly climbing back up. Im seeing more and more ads now and Bella and Aiona have made lots of money.

>>535959663
she is a must roll though

I had to run everything down to pity tAiona so I'm nearly empty for Quinn. At least the game's pretty generous with the gems so I might still be able to do something.

>>535959663
Much like Lorelei.

Who do I replace fleeting bella with if I don't have her for t.aiona?

>>535960879
She's getting added to the main pool so you'll get her eventually, the only question is whether or not she will replace bella or not. Because that dictate whether or not everyone is going for chronometer vs fruit of immortality (aside from time attacks)

>>535961574
Anyone really
Aiona's team is basically just her with a bunch of lackeys

>>535960879
I used my last gems too for a chance at the 3rd dupe, got excited at SSR animation but got useless Mass instead

>>535962567
same but got Nicole (and yet another sAiona dupe) instead

>>535962352
Lmao thank you

>>535961574
No FBella means your TAiona will shit out damage slower, so you probably want to run a second healer or another tank on top of Healer + Acapella + Tank

>>535963096
Do you think it's worth it to use the selector for starry aiona? I'm running lamia instead of another healer atm

>>535963512
if you don't have Seth, sAiona is a must

>>535963605
Thank you!

>>535963512
How far are you into the game? Because SAiona is basically bread and butter on every team since Seth is so hard to get extra copies of and her ult takes 4 cost while SAiona only takes 3 and allows you to reposition your team. If you have Seth and are still under Chapter 10 you can probably keep going until then and see if she comes out. Do you have acapella?

>>535963884
I'm at 11-6 and yes I have acapella

Acappella is overrated

>>535964049
Yeah then get SAiona for sure

Acappella is underrated

>>535964271
Alright. Thanks broski

Acapella is my wife

Acappella is rated exactly right.

They really fucked up with this lobby screen. Like why would I wanna change it when it's that GOOD

>>535966310
I use Lamia's to this day

>>535966310
oh yea... this is also Live2D...

I regret spending for Lamia Lawrence

do you guys think the dreaded skin gacha will happen

>>535968861
Would be surprised if they didnt. Id imagine they'll just put the skins with actual effort (changed ult animation) in a gacha while the rest are paid.

>>535967574
I can forgive her irrelevancy but she's not even for (You) baka

>>535977356
i wish they'd just price it at 20 bucks and call it a day but there's definitely no way that's going to happen

>103 - Last Summer on Sapphire Bay
https://files.catbox.moe/beit9c.mp4
Working on the 2nd half of the Live2D guide, made this as part of the sample work

Acapella is the perfect size...to manhandle

>>535987929
lolibaba...

>what did she mean by this

>>535988692
...a cute tsundere tomboyish hag.
She's really grown on me, probably because she gets deployed almost every battle, unlike certain Bathory heir(s)

>>535995224
It's unavoidable considering Noah has more chemistry with virtually every other character than he does with Empusa.

Mmm, I don't really think she would. Ami's probably biding her time to swallow us whole

Dont make Acapella sad

>>535997403
What do you mean she unleashed a curse? Was she the reason for their downfall?

>>535999043
>that chin

Somehow, Van Helsing is the only normal SSR I don't have. Pretty much everyone recommended VH before and I never got him.

I hope I can get T. Hati or T. Noah from Ancestral tower shards.

>>536006665
That's a lot of money, hope you're reminding devs they owe you

I booted Acapella from my story and arena teams. Also stopped calling her into council (giving her stats does literally nothing)
She is getting deleted!

>>536006665
VH isn't even used in 3 teams PvE anymore.
He is mausoleum bot and that's pretty much it.

>>535999637
More like an alternative timeline where noah and the Scooby-Doo gang didn't board the ship, at least that's how i read it. Could also be that her Atlantis didn't sink and she just became their queen

>>536008027
No don't do it, she'll die of loneliness and boredom. She's the perfect tiny videogame gf

>>536008652
*videogame playing gf, that you constantly bully at Darkstalkers

>>536008274
I still use him tho
He still wrecks some teams if his targeting is right

Who THE FUCK is in charge of cropping these wallpapers? You LITERALLY cant see anyone except Baphomet

49 shards

>>535997403
it didn't click to me until recently but amy always hungry had to do with her being famine's vessel or maybe she's just dumb and hungry, anyway.
>in another life
>alternate version
it sound kinda otherworldly, wink-wink eh!-eh! hmmm?-hmmm? ok i'll stop

>>536020109
Cute little Ami is the true mastermind and final boss, we've been dancing in her toy sailboat all along. Also soon more canon time traveling events or just alter skins(punished Noah, Van, maybe even Empousa)

>>536019809
Silly mutt

>>536016837
Not enough money prease understand

What's the point of the new tank in PvP if the characters who's TAiona lost shield first always loses.
Unless by some magic fuckery her instance of heal is so big it maxes TAiona shield back, she wouldn't be able to influence outcome much. But if she actually does that, whales would be unstoppable. Although nightingale relic wouldn't be of much help, because TAiona dies last so all stacks will be wasted on other units.

>>535985597
I'd like to ink Selena's tummy white
>>536023310
Seems more like a tank for the story mode

>>536023310
pushing pve and possible clutch keep your team alive mid taiona burst under rng. It'll likely be less a pvp win button and more a standoff weapon to make a tiaona v tiaona battle less of a sure thing. Your tiaona bursts first, almost board clears, new tank pops 4 second invulnerability, tiana ult ends, their tiona pops and kills your team (20% of the time)

>>536023310
she's going to be pve core with chrono on bella

I managed to finish high in last 1v1 and I was able to check that guy's comp. It was pretty weird.
Some placement and one unit choice eludes me. Why the fuck does he needs Mass? It's because even if he ults faster than whales he sometimes fails to finish them off... but wouldn't his Mass be dead by that time, no? Or is he trolling? And his FBella position also raises questions...

>>536027079
it's just bait

>>536026763
She's not gonna be happy, and Darcias will probably come for your lower head

>>536027079
>surely mass or reisa will not be picked by the AI in it's priority it's the highest cost one
>I've cracked the system. now it'll cycle through to tiaona!
>proceeds to always pick them.jpg
when you're buying all your daily pvp pulls like a good whale you don't notice the little things like other whales always beating your teams