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>News
Agent Record | Orphie Magnusson & "Magus"
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40210604
Agent Record | Seed
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40193008
Version 2.1 "The Impending Crash of Waves" Special Program
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>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo
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https://youtu.be/_i8DIN0zyZo (JP)

>Upcoming Events for 2.1
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/157696
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Jufufuta

>>535785141
/ourguys/

>>535784598
>>535784823
Thank you, anons. Hope I don't get banned

she look so dum

>>535785323
Why mean?

yjk

Komano love.

>>535785141
i-is it a tryhard guild?....

Azur Promilia waiting room

>Watch Alice's EN VA speak and sing in japanese in some random indie Vtuber stream
>She is even more high pitched than her character

Holy crap

>>535786091
mogged by ananta/nte/endfield hype

Dead game.

>Hugo
>Alice
People with heterosexual eyes suck-
I mean people with homosexual eyes suck-
I mean people with heterophobic eyes suck-
I mean people with homophobic eyes suck-
I mean...

Bunny wife!
Happy life!

Admit it.

You LOVE Yuzuha!

>>535786139
christ that laugh will break my windows

My sister is so hot

They just revealed Ellen Friends Concept Art
https://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/interview/250819z

>>535786368
i like when her mouth does the thing... a very inviting mouth........

>>535786086
yeah, bro
it's not easy being an elite proxy like us
you gotta rape your corin at least once a day, get 10 stars on DA with solo billy AND roll a golden poo every month to keep up with the poo meta
but, you know, it's worth it

>>535786825
Cute

>>535786368
I don't need to hide!

>>535786825
So they always intended one of the three to be a filthy mongrel, just like her. I see.

>>535785089 (OP)
If I skip the story can I repeat everything later? I am getting out of time to get the free skin!

>>535786825
Waterkuma peaked there

>>535787048
sure. you can always watch a playthrough later on youtube
the choices don't change anything

>>535786950
why is lynn so erotic goddamn

>>535786825
>Lead Dev talks about playing Unicorn overlord
>Best part was the sex thing
Sex update coming?

>>535786950
they look so much better than their 3d models, they need to fire that guy

>>535787281
Ntr is comming

>>535786825
>"from the very beginning, everyone on the team recognizes what Mizukuma draws as 'good'"
So they are aware

>>535787281
unicorn overlord was so peak

>>535787406
You mean the loli rape?

>>535787389
I mean pretty much every gacha besides Hoyoverse ones has some form of this like grails, rings, Oath, love meters and so on. What is this NTR you mean of here?

>>535787281
yeah we will have playable characters who were formerly engaged to each other

>>535787281
>>535787406
Waterkuma is going to design an ugly bastard black guy for the villain

>>535787389
Go back to Taimanin bro.

>>535787686
I still can't believe the clowns thought TV mode was a good idea.

>>535786825
About them adding playable NPC since so many people ask

>>535787550
Don't take my post seriously, it's just a joke since in Unicorn Overlord the main character can steal waifus

>>535787686
>we were very depressed during that period
sad.

>>535787686
>very depressed
N- nyoooooo...

>>535787826
>what does 'rationality' mean
money

>>535787853
Going to be real bro, have you seen the type of posts here? That doesn't really come across a joke with the average posts her, Unicorn Overlord is fucking great though

What's the current best team I could make for Trigger?

>>535787686
>we were very depressed during that period
Seeing as they were junior devs working on a passion project, this hurts.
I just want them to succeed.

>>535787785
>there are sub-humans who didn't like tv

>>535787785
it was. Getting rid of it was the dumbest thing.

>>535786825
On making deigns

tv mode was sovl

>>535786950
>>535786980
It's still funny to me how Ruby is literally just blond Ritsu.

>>535787785
>Saves development costs, allowing the devs to focus their efforts on cutscenes, comics, etc.
>Provides unique gameplay
>Limitations allow for creativity when designing individual levels
>Easy to do both on phone and PC
It was a great idea in theory and I personally liked it, but it was poison to the average gachatard

>>535787974
Every team is a Trigger tean

>>535788192
Who is Gigen? Yixuen?

>>535788192
SEED is the Firefly of ZZZ confirmed

>>535788304
Yeah

>>535787686
I still can't believe the clowns thought removing TV mode was a good idea.

This one just reads as "No Waterkuma, you can't only draw naked lolis".
Also really funny if you look here >>535788062
the art team was the one who fully did the angels designs and concept, I wonder who that was?

>>535788062
>thought there were no Angels of Delusion devs
>turns out they are ALL Angels of Delusion devs
M- masaka... he's- no- they're too powerful.

That's it, I'm gonna whale like I never whaled before.
ZZZ is an underdog and I want the devs to win one.

>>535786368
yep, it's true, you cought me

TV was really cool, but more then 90% of it was mega shit and unfun. I don't know why people think it was super amazing or anything.

>>535788663
m6 alice right now

>>535788192
>interviewer is also confused about literal who Seed being on the same level of expectation as Miyabi and Yixuan
Who the fuck had high expectations for Seed comparable to the Void Hunters? How would playing her retroactively increase the nonexistent expectation for her?

>>535787686
So the rumors that ZZZ lost 70% players during Zhu Yuan banner was true.

>>535788603
Damn

>>535788603
>>535788465
>>535788317
>>535788192
>>535788062
>>535787826
>>535787686
>>535787406
>>535787281
so, in short, the less people involved on decision-making the better the product. Who would have thunk.

>>535788603
Waterkuma used to be good but nowadays he fell off.

alright, time to read the whole article

7 weeks for alice was a mistake

>>535788603
>No Waterkuma, you can't only draw naked lolis
Kek

>>535788187
>Saves development costs, allowing the devs to focus their efforts on cutscenes, comics, etc.
If you think about it, keeping TVs would've been the ultimate dev cost saving tool by causing the game to EOS and no longer needing any sort of development at all. They couldn't see the bigger picture.

I need water kuma vs dev meme webm

I wanna become a leaker so I can larp on Telegram.
How does somebody even get into the beta tester program? I see announcements for HSR constantly, but not ZZZ. Do I write an e-mail to support and just ask for it? Or do I gotta get nepo'd by someone already on the inside?

12 weeks for alice is not enough

the more alice the better

>>535788192
Imagine making countless adjustments for Seed and a generic girl on scooter + a robot with skirt and crocs is what they came up with. Retards, all of them.

>>535788603
We haven't even seen Lucy's final form

>>535789237
Move to china

>>535788603
>Lucy steals the show whenever she's involved
>angels are the most anticipated designs and have survived more than a year in the public consciousness off a single promo
>they are also all the closest to Waterkuma being unleashed
CALL THE UNEMPLOYMENT OFFICE AND REHIRE HIM IMMEDIATELY

>>535789352
You will play Seed and apologize

>>535789571
lolis don't sell

All angels should be married but hide it from their fans

>>535789627
Turn back the clock he going start the same retard fight again. It's like a copy pasta at this point.

>>535789643
>All angels should be married
Yeah, to me.

Is tiger piss good for you?

>>535789643
Hololive...

>>535789750
Any female vtuber

Black Guy here and i love Jane Doe

>>535789750
Green woman more then anything actually

>>535789396
Would Dawei give me a CCP membership and a plastic surgery-augmented, government mandated spy waifu, that poisons my food with small doses over a long period of time, if I did?

Wait... Seed is the equivalent of this?

>>535789858
>Black Guy here

>>535788707
>it was super amazing or anything
No one said that, it had its flaws but it ultimately was a very fitting element to the storytelling and easy to manage gameplay-wise. And rather than properly communicating its importance and promise to make meaningful changes, they just caved and removed it wholesale.

>>535789892
Seed is a cartoonish parody of this

>>535789892
This looks like a evil Digimon

>>535789924
This is worse than being called a nigger

>>535789750
>>535789804
I don't get the appeal of vtubers, they're fucking huge and I genuinely have no clue why. Is it their personalities, the collabs they do together? Or is simply "anime girl playing video games" aspect?

>>535788192
>My wife is randomly considered a gigashill character on par with Miyabi and Yixuan
Genuinely, what did I do to deserve winning this hard?

>>535790085
It's the same appeal as watching any regular flesh and bone streamer with a weeb twist. That's literally it.

>>535790085
People like watching a streamers, most vtubers are like loser hiki neets and shit with a anime girl overlay that is more enjoyable to people who like anime stuff.

"Please stop asking for Sweety to become playable"

>>535790093
>Seed is considered on the same level as Miyabi and Yixuan
>We're getting a special episode for her
>We're getting a character demo, animated teaser and likely a special PV or animated short film
For once I enjoy being pandered to.

>>535790085
Depends, most people just watch them like a normal streamer with a cute anime avatar, but if you visit /vt/" you'll see some schizos who think the vtuber is their girlfriend and get all parasocial

>>535790093
This article and that statement is very conveniently timed. Very "please pull this agent" energy.

I need Jane Doe Butt

>>535789643
Married to ugly fat bastards*

>>535790272
What about Sarah?

>>535790272
Sweety is a poor example. Pulchra was a unique NPC that appeared as a boss, they already had combat animations for her that could be reworked into a playable agent.

Mors and Bellum could be reworked in the same way, but it'd be more work because they wouldn't be added to an existing faction.

I just want Obol to have a cool story patch
Thats all I ask

>>535788192
>Waterbear: I WANT JUST A GIANT ROBOT
> "You can't just make a huge robot no one would buy it"
>Waterbear: "Ok what if in the giant robot you have a loli in a skin tight body suit like a muv-luv one>
>"No"
>Waterwater: "Ok let me have like a small flat girl in it"
>"Ok, but she needs to be outside the robot to sell at all times"
>Waterbear" Fuck ok, but she shows her feet all of the time then"

>>535790920
Mors and Bellum are not popular enough with players for a significant amount of them to ask for them as Agents.

>>535791012
I didn't say they were.

>>535790920
I'm going to be real the most they get is probably asking for Coco

>>535790272
This is a load of horseshit, by the way. If they were brazen enough to come up with "muh HDD upgrade" when it comes to Phaeton, they could bend and twist any NPC to be playable whenever they wish. There is no worldbuilding in ZZZ, the worldbuilding is whatever convenient to Zhenyu Li.

>>535790983
Imagine if hoyo release a dev talk like this

>>535791127
That's a huge fucking leap from person with super mega special powerful thing they got that only like 5 of them are out there, into making NPC gain power

>>535791243
The simple answer is those NPCs always had power from the start, you just didn't know.
Everyone from high schoolers to idols can enter the Hollow nowadays. Why can't a store clerk?

>>535785089 (OP)
I still want a little Hu Wei figurine.

>>535791162
Having real dev's talk about the shit waterkama tries to pass off would be funny. It sounds like he tries to come up with all kind of shit by the talks of them "We know what he's good a drawing" and talking about people coaming up with deigns

>>535791074
Someone like Orchidea would make the most sense if they were going full implementation. She's been hinted as having a colorful past and she's close with Rina.

>>535791339
These requested NPCs would either need a strong reason to be added to an existing faction, or align with a potential future one. Pulchra honestly only got the greenlight because of her connection to Burnice. Without that, she would've stayed an NPC.

k, here's my TL;DR
>devs sometimes make the weapon / play-style first, and the character as an afterthought
>devs design characters in pairs, so they would look nice together
>seed was turned into a girl at the last moment
>boo temple maintenance used to a "bath garden"
>the teddybear that corin caries around represents waterkuma
>team lead played e-sports in junior high
>team lead likes anime that have good art and a fun story
>at the 1 year anniversary, the devs did not think the game was going well overall, because of TV mode, so they removed it
>if an NPC is popular, they consider making it playable, like they did with pulchra
>zzz is mainly an action game, but the devs consider mini games an integral part of it as well
>after the game released, the negative reviews made the team lead depressed

>>535791402
They don't need a strong reason.
Sweety is a secret agent who works for the Mayor
Coco is also a secret agent who's been working with Jane Doe.
Officer Mewmew? Also a secret agent.

The story is already filled with asspulls anyway. What's two or three more?

>>535791243
I dunno, man. Harumasa has a super deadly inevitably fatal disease, but actually his adopted father created a serum that only works on him and reversed his almost final stage corruption, and meticulously planned it so that it survived all those years and would also be available to him the exact moment he really needed it, but also it only worked that one time as a temporary fix.
I could see them doing whatever the hell they wanted.
>Sweety joins Suiban Temple as a disciple in some patch event.
Tah dah.

>>535791474
delusional

>>535791524
This. Adhering to worldview is just an excuse, Zhenyu Li is acting as if everything in ZZZ weren't already rewritten to death.

>>535789643
there are no married angels, bro
>"At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven."
- Matthew 22:30

>Rewitten
Stop the clock, we go back to 0 again saying this shit.

>>535791637
Pigtails that start at or under the ears are god tier sexo.
Pigtails that start above the ears are ugly.
Same with ponytails.

>>535791637
Im not pulling just because she is cute

Man, it feels so bad to see this cutie being hated...

>>535791882
dogshit character

>>535791882
>Post Sneed
>Instantly roots out all the trannies and jeets in the thread.

>>535791521
>>535791670
>retarded writing decisions are only good when I actively want them!

>>535791882
Everyone gonna love her after the story

>>535790093
Having shit taste

>>535791882
You need to look at the positives. Knowing she'll flop this early means that cope can be pre-planned. We won't be caught unawares.

>>535785089 (OP)
Alice's POV

>>535792015
if you're gonna have them either way, might as well get a character you want out of it

>>535792015
>Phaeton being able to enter the Hollow through Lycaon's programming magic™ totally made sense, but making popular NPCs playable is a step too far.

>>535792104
This is what happens when degenerate fetish artists look at two character designs and assign them personalities based on vibes instead of how they actually act in the game.

>>535791637
She gonna fight like Mai tossing her fan

>>535791882
Her banner is in first half. She won't flop.

>>535792205
That is how they act in game

Wanna hug him.

>>535792352
Fujo...

>>535792409
I don't think you know the meaning of that word

I honestly don't get the hype behind Sweety.
She's just Burnice in a cheongsam.

>>535792409
Not quite.

>we will buff (some) standard banner and early limited S-ranks
You fucking buffed Ellen and haven't bothered ever since, YOU FUCKERS.

Girlfriends.

>>535792456
(you)

>>535792491
>I honestly don't get the hype behind Sweety.
You see, young anon, it's because
>She's just Burnice in a cheongsam.

What the jeets don't realize is that by obsessively posting about her flopping, people are going to pull for her out of spite.

>>535792684
Nah, they're going to pull her because 2.2's story will be OBOLKINO

>>535792684
That just makes you a double retard

>>535792684
I'm sure this basket weaving forum is gonna tip the balance between a flop and a success

>>535790983
Paz from Peace Walker was right there. Do they think they are better than Kojima?

>>535792684
If you're genuinely worried that a character might not sell, then you've already lost.

>>535793002
I'm not worried that Seed might not sell, because I already know I'll M6 her.

>>535791882
It's just the analwormers who hate her.

Admit it.

You like her!

>>535793148
she cute

>>535792684
>going to see her in the story
>going to want to pull her
>going to do her banner trial first
>going to use her Ult and remember why I didn't want her in the first place and not pull her
They really couldn't have given the feet trait to some character I didn't give a shit about. Couldn't have given it to Pulchra.

>>535793148
sure, intern-kun
but i'm building anomalies and waiting for idols / zhao
put a game mode that makes me build more than 3 teams first

What's the state of Seed in the beta now? Anything changed since her punch got nerfed?

I'm concerned that SEED flopping will demoralize the dev team. She has Void Hunter level effort put in her

>>535793305
Not really. Nothing about how you play her changed.

I will pull SEED
possibly idols (robot idol)
bunny

>>535793365
in 1.x, they kept releasing hag after hag, while trying to build up a fag audience, leading to a decline in profits / player drop-off
in 2.x they seem to plan on releasing loli after loli, presumably while still catering to a hag lover audience, with the fags dead in a ditch

it's an improvement, but it's still not quite the balance that it should be imho

our zones really havent been zenless these past few days... did alice steal all the zen?

>>535793365
Now that I think about it I think they really were trying to make hype around her in the game. She got all those audio-only cameos where she was teased to be a violent gremlin. Then there's that quest chain with Monato where you try to find that legendary boocelume and at the end you find out it's a fake, but then you have a black screen conversation with Seed teasing that she's some sort of hollow guardian angel leading those lost to safety.
I think they fucked it up because I wouldn't have made the connection they were trying to make her seem important if I didn't read the interview.

>>535793880
The voice at the end of Manato's quest was seed? I had no idea, what made you think that?

>>535793880
not to mention that bangboo event where you pilot a mech
they're really banking on footfaggotry being a thing

>>535794047
vomit inducing and head canon

Seed had more cameos prior to her banner than Yixuan did.

>>535794036
How many cheeky personalities do you know of that speak in bangboo with the light and airy "~" at the end of their sentences? That also have stealth technology to vanish when guiding people? Where every other event talks about how the chameleon coating is some crazy stealth technology that the Defense Force has been trying to create for years? And has a conversation go out of its way to mention that Seed is a genius who just knows how to eliminate all its imperfections to the point that all sorts of people try to find her to get her to spill the beans?
And when you have that list of potential candidates, which of them are we supposed to be seeing again soon like the voice alluded to with
>Correct, it is not yet time.

im still pretty new to ZZZ, I have 52 master tapes saved up. should I pull for the current banner(s) or should I hold on to them?

>>535794897
>Master tapes
use everything
>Encrypted Master Tape and polychromes
Save for a limited character

>>535795052
thats the ones I meant, sorry.
youre saying you should only ever pull on limited characters, nothing else?

>>535789579
not that guy but no I will not roll seed and apologize. simple as no cool ass robot full time no pull.

>>535795095
No. I'm telling you never to pull. You never know when the next banner will be the one. Why risk it? Be safe. Smart. You will get nothing. And you will be happy.

alice cope engines?

>>535795095
Spend your encrypted tapes and polys on limited characters, the master tapes can be used only on the standard banner so just pull whenever you get 10 of them.

>>535794897
the standard banner never rotates, you can roll on it freely, but don't spend poly on it, only use that on the limited banners

>>535785089 (OP)
>>535785089 (OP)
Feets

>>535795221
>10
1, there is no advantage in rolling x10

Am I the only autistic person who save the master tapes in case one day they add more characters to the permanent pool?

>>535795262
should I roll on the current banners though?

>>535795473
Of course not. There's no benefit to using them. I stock them up until there's a new A rank I like and don't max out on a rate up.

>>535795536
what S ranks do you currently have?

>>535795363
You're right, but unless he desperately needs to fix his gambling addiction I don't see the reason to pull whenever he gets a single one.

>>535795627
just Grace

>>535795473
I roll because I want more copies of s11

>>535788935
nope

>Ellen has low blood sugar and burns energy fast, therefore conserves as much as she can, which makes her come off as antisocial
>S11 and Anby are test tube mutants who were raised as soldiers
>Lucy is a tsundere
>Evelyn is married to her job, which dictates lack of a social life (Astra is her job)
>Pulchra was a bandit who was only in it for the money
>Meeb/Yix may be acoustic
>ZY is another workaholic without social cues and her partner is a washing machine with an electric marital aid
How come there are no genuinely bitchy characters in the game yet? Just textbook Wednesday Addams level bitch for no reason. What's going on?

>>535794897
Use your master tapes on the stable channel (the one in this image) and save the polychromes and encrypted ones for the exclusive channel

ZZZ for this feel?

>>535793365
They deserve it for making such a shit character

>>535795897
i wouldnt want to roll for a bitchy character.

>>535795897
>Bitchy character
Sure if the objective is speedrunning EoS. Maybe you forgot incels are the target audience of this game.

>>535796017
But you'd roll for Sarah in a heartbeat.

ZZZ Devs: I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing but here's Seed junior, she fits the world of Zenless Zone Zero!!!!

>>535796131
If/when she becomes playable her personality will be "mommy who is for (You)"

>>535795897
I think the problem is they can't be bitchy to (you), or people will complain. Then again, other gachas have been able to pull it off.

>>535795796
oof
ok, well i suggest you build piper + lucy
grace + anton + ben / seth / anbi is probably your second best
and your third best is probably nicole + billy + anby (nicole is a very good unit in particular)

alice + grace and yanagi + grace are viable, though grace is not considered a great endgame character
we won't have many anomalies any time soon though
what i would suggest is that you save for upcoming characters that you like. for example if you like seed / orphie, or the idols, or zhao (the small bunny), and roll on that
alternatively you could save all the way until the next void hunter (those are characters that are meant to be stronger than average, basically S+)
in 1.x we got S rank haru for free, so we'll probably get another S rank in 2.x at some point as well

if you really don't like playing piper + lucy or grace + anton, then yeah, you should roll either alice or yanagi, but if you can hold the line, then you build whatever you want after several months when it shows up

>>535795897
>"Better to live on a corner of the roof than share a house with a quarrelsome wife."
- Proverbs 21:9

>>535796131
no, i dont care about her that much. would have to see gameplay before deciding. her aesthetics are nice though.

>>535796240
From what we've seen of her, she'd be a terrible parent.

>>535796258
>Lucy unlocks from an event in chapter 4
>I just finished chapter 2
I like Anton but I understand he isn't that great in the long run.
I guess my question should be if Yanagi or Alice work well enough on their own or if they need a good team to really bring out their potential

>>535796258
NTA, but Alice can actually played without Anomaly. It's one of her boons. Her additional ability does require a support then.
Though for what it's worth, missing Yuzuha is bad. And if you then also don't get her ball it's literally over.

New players will have this issue no matter what though. Seed might be better if you can't get Alice's ball though, that's for sure. Alice really needs some help on anomaly appliance rate. Either Yuzuha OR ball are basically mandatory, and the best is obviously having both.

>>535796536
both alice and yanagi are on-field anomalies (yanagi can work as off-field but really only for miyabi)
that means they want 1 off-field anomaly and 1 supporter / defender
grace can be used as an off-field anomaly (together with seth), but piper is on-field (you could use yanagi as an off-field with piper and lucy i guess, but it wouldn't be optimal)
when playing anomalies, you want to cast a disorder, meaning 2 different elements. so alice + grace and piper + yanagi would cover that

i do agree with the other anon >>535796771 that yuzuha would be preferred for alice, as is miyabi for yanagi
but i mean it would still give you a power boost for sure, if you're struggling with cleaning things
>i just finished chapter 2
honestly, if you don't care for alice / yanagi in terms of looks, you should save. you don't need fancy characters to finish the story. none of the current banners are void hunters or universal supporters
if you really like how alice / yanagi look, then sure, roll them and build them slowly over the reruns, but as a new player there's no need to rush

>>535796258
You can still get your free Lucy?

>>535797136
the anon seems to think it unlocks at chapter 4
i know that the cheezetopia event is permanent, but i'm not sure if the free lucy from it is

>>535795897
Because, and this may surprise you, unlikeable characters don't sell? If only the West realized that.

>>535797094
Anon.. Alice's entire gimmick is that she disorders by herself. She really doesn't need another anomaly. And especially a shit one is much worse than just a second buffer.

The only other anomaly worth playing with Alice are rat (she is essentially a buffer for her) and Vivian (who functions similarly). They are NOT used for disorder purposes, though it can be a nice bonus in case of Vivian. They are used to buff Alice's assault damage via crits or blooms respectively.

tl;dr: Both team slots in an Alice team are used to AMP her damage, not for disorder purposes. That is fundamentally different to basically any other anomaly.

>>535797321
Counterpoint
Just make them broken

>>535791882
build for monster ryona doujins

>>535797390
My king Phainon is likeable though?

Feeding Soukaku straight from the source

>>535795363
it's way faster to reach pity with it, and you will pity a good half of your S rank in the end.

xixsters, they're HOPEposting..

>>535797507
cute

>>535797525
Kashlana is likeable sure, phainon is not even a character

>>535797507
I hope she got raped for that blunder

>>535797390
My boyfriend

>>535789924
>first it was being obsessed with blacks
>now it's browns
what's next for the white phenotype?

No brick ever bricked (her pants) harder than Yixuan did against Miasmic Fiend during this DA rotation; I can't bricking believe this...

>>535791882
she's hate by homos and ugly femcels, so it doesn't matter

>>535793148
>>535793250
>>535793283
Sneed

ZZZplease
ZZZdont
ZZZleave

>>535798353
>>535798251
Cute

>>535790272
I want Big Daddy to become playable.

>>535798353
Yuzuha steps aside because she likes her grillfriend being a dorky exhibitionist!

>>535797543
I really like this artist

>>535798659
SoC must grow.

Genshin YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUlQbUoX6Bc
ZZZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqFkguq89YU

>>535795897
I think you're forgetting someone, also do you think people irl are bitchy for no reason?

this long ass banner is killing the game

>you can only have 5 dynamic wallpapers saved
I will never stop seething about this. It should be 10 MINIMUM

>>535800303
Makes getting new ones a bit less exciting

>>535798350
Good morning Romania HRT ritual poster!!! Go eat your breakfast and pay attention to work instead of shitposting all day!!! And I'm going to bed!!!

>>535800303
Sexth (Sex with Seth)

>>535786950
>>535786825
goddamn does this man and the zzz team love white women

Which way, white man?

>>535800694
My dick isnt even 8 inches.

>>535800694
Don't make me choose.

>>535800303
I only need Belle's

Yuzusex

>>535797574
Breast? Milk?

>>535786825
Interesting interview, their character design process seems to be much more in line with modern western designs, which rather than one main producers version it's a collaboration between designers/animators/coders saying "this is what looks/feels cool, also playing x/y recently inspired this!"
New generation Chinese developers are so much better at creating more original works than the last few gens.

>>535800875
I am not american so I have no idea how much those clown units make in real units.

>>535786825
>"When it comes to Delusion Angel I was sursied to see (every) team wanted to do a character like this
CUNNY WINS BASED DEVS

>>535801131
Imagine the length of a thumb.

>>535801240
You have 20cm long thumb?

>>535786980
>>535786950
COW THIRENS OWE ME CHEESE

Another free standard S rank selector when?

>>535785089 (OP)
Mibibi is winning

>>535801394
3.0 launch?

>>535789879
>Plastic-surgery augmented spy waifu
There are so fucking many of those in Silicon Valley in California you would not BELIEVE.
Having JPL in your resume just LINES up Chinese women for you, know somebody involve with high level security clearance work and they have to do trainining for the autistic new hires to not fall for CCP honeytrap waifus

>>535801014
many stinkers rules though. creating a character around a weapon is a sure way to fuck up your lore extremely fast.

>>535801508
Nigga the first limited fights with a giant scissor.
There's no weapon they could make that'd be too crazy for the lore.

>>535801430
So close yet so far...

>>535794047
damn whyd you give him such a fat bussy

>>535801425
what's that?

>>535799045
they can only deny american culture for so long before they return to kino

I thought SoC was Australian

>seed is being compared to Miyabi and Yixuan
I told you CN was calling her "little Void Hunter". She might not be popular with the r/gachaqueens demographic, but asians love her.

>>535801706
Taptap female awards

>>535801882
Reminder that Ghislaine Maxwell was a redditor.

>>535801818
Uh...

>>535797390
Why does it look so soulless?

>>535801882
>the retards here don't represent a majority of the fanbase
WOW
its almost like 4chan generals are for the hardcore addicted schizos
asians fucking love robots and hebes

>>535801942
funny how the real life celebrities are losing to pixels
and I didn't know Hutao was still that popular

my first 6 star

>>535801864
bit mad mad aye but leather jackets and biker culture and pueblo native american vistas are 110% american, when they think of americlaps they still think of john wayne prarie niggas with 6 shooters

>>535802058
Sure, whatever you say. The excitement is absolutely palpable. Clearly.

>>535802012
yeah the model/rendering looks outdated
and their eyes look dead

>>535802152
Nice work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxYzPWnvKJw

How do we fix HP inflation, bwos?

>>535801864
I know this is probably shitpost bait but red scarfs specifically are symbolic and intelgral identity of western/s. Lighter and the SoC having a red scarf represent their champion is a famous American trope.

>>535797390
>Weird pupil? check
>Choker? check
>Belts? check
>Tight band? check
>Spiky star motiffs? check
>Cape/Wavy elements? check
>Weak collor palette? check
Genshinman incarnate

>>535802152
What's your tactic for Marionette? Reaching 5k by killing the clones seems tricky.

>>535802309
The HP inflation is a direct result of them making the Agents stronger. Release more sidegrades and the HP inflation will cool off.

>>535801864
>Cheesetopia
They are very america-coded.

>>535801864
I thought of Arizona it didn't feel like the outback to me.

>>535802309
HP inflation is the result of... the devs inflating HP.
They can stop anytime they want.
The only solution is powercreeping as units can't overcome inflation if they keep doing it.
The powercreep is not only character powercreep but also disc, engine, mechanics and selectable buffs powercreep.

>>535795897
Can't use tsun as an argument for Lucy if she actually dislikes most people and is only really tsun to her gang.

>>535802442
>mibibi burny pulchra 21k
bwo...

>>535802309
Not watching a video that has a furry with the trans flag colors as thumbnail

Hey

>>535802521
we fucking LOVE cheese, which makes it funnier when euros think we don't have european cheese here and we just eat yellow cost-co ten ton bricks of goyslop (only poor trash eats that garbage)

>>535802442
I only got 3k, but Yixuan makes it super easy. Her dodge counter one shots the clones and her EX skills are all AOE

>>535802152
Are those level 50 characters? There's no way maxed alice yuzu only do 15k.

>>535802442
Ellen can kill the clones easily by holding charge, parry makes her invincible during it.
Clone barrage is easy too..

https://www.youtube.com/live/HVC_dBNUZGc?si=Ge_cXeuE8UngENal
Gamescom opening night stream in 8 hours from Krautland

>>535802957
wow expac reveal is about the only thing im watching it for

>>535802442
You pull Shifu

>>535802957
Isnt that the prime time reveal for all the games? doubt we'll have anything more than a quick trailer for SNEED.

>>535802442
Just go with leave Ellen on field easy 20k

>>535803036
She needs a china dress costume by the start of 3.0

Alice is pretty fun in hollow when paired with Yuzuha, I kinda want to get her now, but getting a DPS without their weapon seems like such a waste of pulls.

>>535803253
Fuck it give her a china dress by chinese new year.

>>535802957
2.3 will have a surprise alt from one of the launch characters

>>535801882
Being told you are inferior is also a comparison, pedenjo.
You know who else have been compared to Miyabi? SAnby, Evelyn, Hugo and Alice.
Now, pray tell me, how many of them were actually that good?

>>535803036
>>535803253
>>535803347
>make chinese character
>dont give her iconic chinese dress every foreigner recognizes (chun-li, etc)
didn't understand this, you gave the burgers leather jackets and motorbikes kek

>>535790272
what a dogshit company
they would rather make the same few overdesigned hagslop and wormslop type characters forever

>>535802152
>Mono Ice
>Less than 50k
You are a disgrace to hardworking zzz players.
Stop posting until you are worthy.

>>535803253
What do you mean? Her current outfit is modern Chinese. It embodies the modernity of China, as a strong and culturally-advanced nation.

>>535803620
kys

>>535790272
Ok? But in turn I'll quit this game the moment AP comes out. Kinda retarded to play a GACHA game where the NPCs are better looking than playable units.
Simple as.

>>535803474
Some devs are prideful contrarians, they'd rather die than give you what you want and get paid for it.

>>535803693
It embodies the need to fuck her more than anything
Bitch has so much meat and it jiggles all the time

>>535803151
The stream is like 3 hours and a trailer slot is like 1.5 minute. It could be anything.

>>535803693
A qi pao
She needs a qi pao, preferably with a boob window like sweety's

>>535803693
my man the chinese youth all dress like americans with NBA jerseys blue jeans and sneakers now.
this is supposed to be a game taking place in modern urban times

>>535801818
kama would never

>>535803693
its a ballet outfit bro... very chinese indeed

>game hasn't at all "replaced" tv mode after a full year
>most good events are just hang ons on what 1.0 would be with more time (theater, HIA, mecha)
>2.0 is outrageously bland
>2.1's improvements are better but also have to clear a really low bar with filler for a half year
>OPOL turned out to be bland as fuck outside Trigger

I don't even know what they want to do at this point. They even made the puzzles nonexistent instead of good like Genshin.

>>535803771
Shishou is what happens when you take a chinese woman and give her pornstar negro phenotype body
180cm woman with a huge ass, G cup size titties and thighs like an amazon

>>535787616
But we already do?

>>535803151
Seed isn't exactly exciting so I hope they've got something else to show

>>535802309
>People: If it's not better than Miyabi, I'm not pulling. Another electric dps? not pulling.

>Also people: HP INFLATION, POWER CREEP, ANOTHER NEW CLASS WHY? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
If retarded metafag didn't exist, people would just pulling characters based on their aesthetic or story and artificial measures wouldn't be necessary, but because of these autistics, others have to pay the price.

>>535803948
look as a genshit or hsr shitter you should be very excited for seed because she's a design made for you. so unless you're a wuwaJEET, get HYPPUUU

>>535803727
ZZZ is the most receptive to feedback out of all Mihoyo games, though.

>>535803917
OBOL is not popular enough to go experimental bro. There's a reason they're going full safe designs with the remaining two.
They made Vivian full dogshit for (You) and Hugo full homo in 1.7 to some people's chagrin but they still have VHK to lean onto. Who's gonna save OBOL? Fucking Roland from Hollow Zero?

>>535790272
Even Phaethon doesn't fit the original worldview and story anymore since there's literally no proven reason why they should be in the hollow themselves personally.

What are they talking about?

>>535803945
Mibibi is formerly engaged to you and currently engaged to me.

>>535790272
>Alice and Yuzuha, literal who teenagers, are somehow strong enough to destroy hollows
Lets be real here, they will make any character they want in the game playable if they so desire. Writing excuses for characters being strong is they easiest shit imaginable for a writer writing fiction. If you showed Alice, Yuzuha and Sweety and asked which one should be a fighter and a playable agent everyone would point at Sweety.
What a load of bs.

>>535803693
>Culturally-advanced
Excellent bait, your animal cruelty laws sirs?
You can say they're technologically advanced, maybe even Economically, but not that.

>>535804110
Proxies originally are hollow dwellers. Phaethon got debuffed by Carole but got Eous remote as tradeoff.
They just got traditional instead. Now they can go full Joyous and build Eous as a separate character instead of TV mode.

Seed and Orpheus are the only non bland character in Obol objectively speaking.
Trigger is a cool sniper hag and Soldier 11 a basic sword user. You can hardly do more basic.

>>535804052
I never pulled for meta and still did every day and shiyu except the first shiyu because I didn't really take the game very seriously the first month
People just suck

>>535804215
Keep my wife Harin out of your god dam mouth

>>535792151
>literally Evelyn in a chink dress
>please make her playable
Can they just release the skin already so the retards shut up? Eveslop is even supposed to rerun next patch

>>535790272
>>535804169
The Sweety discourse gives me hope that our overwhelming complaints are making it through their thick heads that if they make anything Wuxia in the future it needs to be more in line with Sweety/Fufu and less like Honkshoo and Genshin slop

>>535804094
Then make them more popular in a larger effort?
This is not an impossible suggestion even for old Hoyo (Fu Hua and Durandal), I don't know why ZZZ has to go full committee slop when it's even bad at that.
>Astra for all these things like a custom twitter larp and a fully produced music video with chink idol pandering is just pumped and dumped to a super generic villain with no development or nuance.
>Their cover character has one of the most hackjobbed agent stories with no actual exploration of their backstory you couldn't know from basic trope recognition and the trailers

>>535804092
The problem is the feedback they got was from people with sunken cost on other mihoyo games.
CCs who had big channels for genshin/hsr tried to protect their bag (twitch/yt subs) by giving DOGSHIT feedback too.

And thats the people they cater to, your suggestions of what would be cool on the other hand, fall into deaf ears.

>>535795473
Yes retard keep denying yourself of free rolls from signal refunds just because they may add some now unsalvageable flop into standard in a year or two

>>535804336
>wuxia
where? every single Hoyo games are going full xianxia cultivation which is where your shit designs are coming from
if they had gone full wuxia you'd see simple garbs instead

>>535804336
me on the left

gotta grab'em all

>>535802442
i threw miyabi, yuzuha, soukaku at her and she melted at 30k points
the trick is to make sure you get enough parries that she collapses after the attack for the bonus 30% damage

the other thing is that she does a green > red >green > purple set of moves when she shows off her clock, it's important to get the parry during green and purple or you'll never make it.

breaking miasma fills up your meter, so absolutely spend all 3 ultimates as soon as it breaks so you will have them again the next time.

she's dogshit easy once you recognize clocks and never miss an impaired window.

>>535804094
>Safe desgns

>A live weapon in your ass is a safe design.
>A mecha and a scooter is a safe design.

Huh? They are literally the characters with the least safe gameplay and desing

>>535804541
Next in line, Zhao's tail

>>535804182
Animal cruelty isn't real. Stupid westerners love virtue signaling especially Americans but they eat so much meat they're all obese. Not to mention the endless propaganda about US beef even though Chinese beef is superior.

>>535804484
you're right forgive me i'm not intimate on the details and names of the individual bing chilling culture tropes it all looks abit similar to me

>>535804597
Zhao is for ear touching

>>535804694
These pol types love talking about animal cruelty while kikes bomb kids on the daily.

>>535804193
>[delusional headcanon]
lol

Also
>Debuffed

>Critically corrupted after a single hit
>No combat potential
>Immediately show agents can cure hollow cancer in proxy (heh) in the next story
>Game made carrots and beacons pop out like flies so there's zero reason to navigate on foot.

>>535804402
Make them more popular in exchange for whose screentime getting cut? Writing a doomer military faction when your entire game is best at doing SoL (if anything it sucks at everything else) is hard
They even tried going full military doomer with Sanby and look at what happened to her. A single funni event with Cunning Hares clears that entire "development". Developing factions like S6 or Calydon and their lores just bring more traction.
They'd have to introduce a jester-type military commander before going all in and try to salvage the military factions. At this point Ray's HZ plotpoint is more interesting than whatever OBOL.

>>535804694
>>535804807

>>535803446
>SAnby
Nah. People always called her a brick. The entire damn time.
>Evelyn
I don't remember this either.
>Hugo
They aren't inherently wrong, it depends heavily on the fight and team. For speedruns Hugo will always be better.
>Alice
Better, no doubt. Miyabi's BIS teammates are just nowhere near as good with her than Alice's. (and they are exactly the same, though Astra is a Yuzuha sidegrade for Miyabi)

>>535804807
If kikes were bombed when we could talk bout animal cruelty but i guess that devilspawn doesn't count as animals to begin with

uh oh melty about invisible little hat men and amerifats

>>535802957
Man, I'm going to miss it.

I'm jewish and my favorite agent is Nicole

Whose engine is more important? Alice or Sneed? I can get both agents if I want, but only 1 engine. Or would m0w0 Orphie be better than Alice?

>>535804820
>>Critically corrupted after a single hit
What? They didn't die when they got hit by that big bull ethereal in Chapter 4
>>No combat potential
and still is? Proxies don't fight they just run around the hollows with their entourage helping them
>Game made carrots and beacons pop out like flies so there's zero reason to navigate on foot
What? If you played TV mode the way Eous/Phaethon mapped their carrots was just by walking around. Same shit now but (You) are walking now with Eous helping.

>>535801882
They were not being compared in power, tranny, but of course you have to use every last cope to shill the sloppiest flop in entire hoyo history

>>535805071
Seeds engine is better. Who are your attacker options to partner with Seed? If you have Sanby, M1 Neko, M1+ S11, Ellen, or Harumasa built I wouldn't pull Orphie and just do m0w0 alice + m0w1 seed

>>535805071
Probably Seed's engine. Anomaly have the best cope engine with weeping gemini.

the luminous path is closed to gweilo

>>535805071
Is the beta over? we don't know if they'll do any adjustments to SNEED.
Last time a leaker said something about 10 days (two weeks, business)

You gotta fight... for what you truly believe.

You gotta fight... to achieve your greatest feat.

You gotta fight... perfect your own technique.

You gotta fight till your time's up, for your ascendancy.
You gotta fight... for what you truly believe.

You gotta fight... to achieve your greatest feat.

You gotta fight...perfect your own technique.

You gotta fight till your time's up.

>>535804564
They're basically not!Huohuo and not!Firefly down to their personality and backstory (but legally distinct). How are these not safe designs.
>but people don't play HSR!
Devs played HSR. Majority of ZZZ players played HSR. Those two being hella popular don't help.

>>535804169
just ask for a Burnice alt

>>535804564
If you entirely ignore
>super bland moe girl getting dragged by her scary associate
>A mech you don't get to manually control and a traverse gimmick
That's been a thing in hoyo games since Bronya and Seele, what do you mean least safe?

>>535805290
>Majority of ZZZ players played HSR

>>535804820
Proxies are guides, they're not meant to be combatants
And now they're training to "manipulate" the hollows with Shifu, so they can be more useful than just a bangboo.
Also, Phaethon would need to go to hollows physically sooner or later, since they want to investigate their teacher's lab inside the Old Capital

>>535805323
>super bland moe girl getting dragged
can you specify whats bland about orphie?

>>535805102
>we need to make a lot of adjustments for characters people have high expectations
>we had to do a lot of adjustments to Miyabi, Yixuan, and Seed
I'm so sorry sis... No one has high expectations for Komano... He'll flop just like every other male, so they don't need to make any adjustments...

So, all this about Wise/Belle and the training arc etc, where does it end? Will they be like Bangboo and have attack assist? Will they be playable in combat in any way?

>>535805290
I like a lot of HSR designs and but I never played the game, the models are ass.

>>535805432
Proxies hire agents to do the manual labor. They don't need to do anything themselves.

>>535805290
Nigga we don't know shit about seed's backstory

>>535805290
But Seed looks and as far as we know acts nothing like Firefly the only thing they have in common is that they are both mech related.

>>535805076
>Ignores 2.0 out of delusion where the actual tone and involvement shift happened than them just finding bulllshit excuses why they're trapped in the hollow again
lmao
>and still is? Proxies don't fight they just run around the hollows with their entourage helping them
And I'm saying that's bad compared to using Eous and remote navigation from what they've achieved since. At least pay attention.
>If you played TV mode the way Eous/Phaethon mapped their carrots was just by walking around.
The entire point is that they're hoofing it safely through remote control, and can scout ahead.
How is it the same at all to put yourself in mortal danger with no assurance or contingency?

You just say random justifications than internalize any logic behind it.

>>535805704
>don't know shit about seed's backstory
Seems pretty big to me.

>>535805635
what HSR designs do you like?
asking cause i never played HSR and i'm assuming your pic is not a swimsuit in HSR, i just want to google it.

>>535805290
Nobody """played""" hrt or wants to, raider tourist

>>535805552
Do you have any argument against it?
Like don't be a little bitch, show you actually like the character outside sunk cost hoyo loyalty.

haha gacha players think their games are relevant
reveunue =/= cultural impact
how many elden rings has hoyo made again

>>535805921
wtf are you talking about cocksucker, you made a vague claim and i asked you to specify it, don't read too much on it , paranoid faggot.

>>535803620
I figured out why I'm not doing as much damage as in the videos

To be fair, if you're playing as Wise or Belle, the other siblin is irrelevant; the sibling you're not playing with, now has a real role.

>>535805828
Pela, Serval, SW, Kafka, Sparkle, Yunli
the hag model looks terrible in game

>>535806149
Same shit really. They fed you info from the sidelines before, and now they do it from Eous.

>>535805432
>Guides
>There's zero reason to guide with the current hollow designs where you can't justify combat being repetitive corridors anymore with tv mode being the actual navigation.
>Which they often skipped entire plot points with this starting with SoC (what is the point of Phaethon being there AT ALL is the Tour De Inferno is an empty lot outside the lava pool?)

>And now they're training to "manipulate" the hollows with Shifu
>This was done completely offscreen and useless compared to Yi's own deus ex machina application of just healing everything at once

>Also, Phaethon would need to go to hollows physically sooner or later, since they want to investigate their teacher's lab inside the Old Capital
Do you guys just copy paste ChatGPT responses, because literally what would change if Eous was used instead?

>Oh no, I'm seeing her evidence through a computer screen which I can record, document, and investigate far more safely with an established route early

If anything, Seed is closer to Clara than Firefly.
The only reason people compare Seed with Firefly is because they deluded themselves with "this is a sentient male robot!" and got a girl instead lmao

Lighter flopped so seed is piloted now

>>535806030
And you made an even vaguer claim of just saying
>nope lol
retard. You gotta make an argument to have an argument.

>>535806374
Clara is infinitely cuter and Svarog mogs Seed Sr, so you're better off sticking to the FF comparison.

>>535785579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtKgt7p5yF4

>>535806425
care to tell me which part of the world you are from or should i just continue to assume you're very dark skinned and 150cm

Idol teaser is only a few hours away bros... im so excited

>>535806484
I do think Svarog has a better design, but Seed is just grown up Clara. Hopefully we get flashbacks of when Old Seed found loli Seed

>>535794047
Why couldn't Belle know?

>>535806559
>he thinks 2.3 are the idols
The only Angel of Delusion here is you.

>>535806425
Trookacola

>>535806638
>Seed is just grown up Clara
They are nothing alike.

>>535806559
Will you rope xirself when the next patch is Zhao/Manato?

>>535806668
Because Wise is for Belle

>>535806460
No, you're just a DEFENSIVE BTICH trying to infer motive when i just asked you to specify what you said. I made no argument because i wasnt argueing with you. This back and forth ends here btw, get some meds.

>Mihoyo would rather pander to footfags over risking another wormflop
And analwormers act surprised, that's the funniest part.

>>535790272
>Topped up twice during Anby's banner
>Rolled Pulchra C6 and hear weapon before without Anby showing up
>decide to not roll Anby
Pulchra should have been the S rank I would have bought more packs

Soon

I pulled Lighter
I will pull Sneed
I would pull Joyous

>>535806795
your skin is the color of dark anus
you are the height of old woman in my country

>>535807029
>being homosexual is le aryan now
Lmao

>No one played HSR
>Like ZZZ would even be as popular and well produced initially without being the Genshin and HSR company

>Proxies have a purpose still!
>Everything they do can be done better with more people or specific agents

This general has whined about doomposting so much, it became a tornado of copeposting.

>>535806710
Similar in backstory (from what we know)
Soft voiced character, one is a blissfully ignorant child that has her guardian on her side, same for loli Seeds when she was singing lullabies for Old Seed while he was obliterating ethereals after the Old Capital fell.
Now Seed apparently lost Old Seed (she specifies about "talking"), so maybe he died or got corrupted enough that he became a basic AI that can't formulate thoughts for himself and only has "protect the child" going on inside his head

>>535807085
the romans, the greeks who invent culture were manlovers philistine
you are dark brown midget

>>535807003
What about him?

>>535807120
Markets are different, that's why homopander does not sell here.

>>535807145
>From what we know
Again we don't know anything, the leak from 1.0 could have been entirely redone by now

>>535806754
>No, you're just a DEFENSIVE BTICH trying to infer motive
You're not supposed to project your own intents literally, sir.
Which you're still doing since you're just avoiding the argument of Orphe being bland.
>This back and forth ends here btw, get some meds.

>Explain how what I said doesn't make sense to you
>m-me-meds
HAHAhahaha, ok.

>>535806250
From what i googled SW, Yunli and Sparkle are close to my taste. They probably look better in motion but yea, the models are a factor of the older engine/game being made for mobile etc...

salejeet and worm melty uh oh
truly the brownest of the brown obsess over numbers and men

>>535807085
Kek do homos even

>the Israeli or Flip are seething and larping as romans now
Oh no no no no no no

>>535807241
Evelyn is bland and people like her

ZZZ's current level of popularity is comfy
I'm okay with males flopping, I say this as a male roller

>>535807360
Wise is Roman, figures

>>535807169
npc

yeah i fuck men what're you gonna do about it

>>535807360
Wise is literally me

>>535807228
>Zhu trailer goes on and on about her family and work-life balance
>We literally never have any real Zhu development that suggest she's not a justicefag outside her bond events ever again.

>Orphe turned out to be just thrown around during combat, never switched to a serious soldier at all.

>Proxies as a concept entirely

It's a safe bet it's redone.

>>535807449
I'm content too, ZZZ's male roster is honestly pretty strong. There isn't really any one of them I dislike, except maybe the vampire.

New Seed-Orphie gameplay

https://youtu.be/0tk9PNGJkZw?si=OrTzHyWga3URLBRH

>>535807569
>being a pig snitch is """justice"""

how many posters here are even westerner anymore
is this entire thread just sea of brown now?
where does white man go to discuss chinese games>?
i wish americans would range-ban non western country from website

>>535807420
Because she's thick, quirky, AND cute.
2D is still better than 1D.

I personally don't like her either, she always came off as a possible fire Jane alt they just duct taped Saber's head on at the last second.

We need more male characters. Lack of male characters is why this game is so unpopular.

>>535807731
You will never be Belle lmao

God these threads are dogshit. I hate Indians so damn much.

>>535807731
Thailand and Flipland do be full of troonies, the measure would cure the general fr fr

>>535807420
lol anon you're gonna keep that unginged paranoid's wheels spinning. KEK

>>535807754
>comparing bland coomer slop astra accessory to the second best character in the game
You are brown

>>535807642
Yes, that's why it's justicefag and not agent of justice, redditor.

>>535790272
I'm entitled to the TOPS consultant brown hag.

>>535807614
The Vampire was made with Asian women in mind. Manato is a western women and Gay male thing.

>>535807569
normalfags are justice fags

>>535807769
I think it's not really the lack of male characters
ZZZ's reputation as hoyo's gooner game scares the normie audience away

>>535807731
>Americans range-ban Eastern Hemisphere
>Youtube, Leddit, Xitter, 4kids all immedaitely improve overnight dramatically
i wish oh god do i wish this would come true

>>535807569
>>535807642
What was redone about Orphie? Was she supposed to be a serious character without Magus? Do you have more proof than the Trailer?

>>535807845
>Wanted a Jane disguise alt over Eve
>So you're saying you consider Jane on the same level as Eve?
What schizo babble are you saying at this point?

>>535807228
Not entirely, they make references to that old lore in her agent record, like picrel.

>>535807731
zzz threads are a bunch of europeans calling each other brown because of their looser grasps on english

>>535807892
I wasn't talking aesthetics, I was more or less alluding to his character and character relationships. I think Hugo's design is fine.

>>535807959
There is definitely a cap when it comes to gooner games' popularity, as in they cannot be as popular as normal games.

>>535807808
@Sumding, being half chinese/spainard does not make you white doever.

>>535807959
ZZZ got that astroturfed reputation when all genshin/hsr Content Creators and influencers tried to protect their bag on release.

>>535807994
The same leaked concept sheet Seed is on, which we were talking about if you paid attention.

>>535807996
i'm not that retard, retard

>>535807994
Kuudere (Anby) S rank flopped

>>535808063
TRVKE
asians can't be white even if the spanish are

>>535808108
Concept sheet had her as the daughter of Magus friend who got killed and she has to babysit now

>>535808147
Scamby needs a better dodge and a parry on that dogshit backstep animation lock she has.

How bad would I fuck up my account if I pulled 2 brimstones from the shop to make brim p3, instead of saving the materials for 60 more pulls?
Relevant information, I'm f2p, clear DA and shiyu without problems (not quite reaching 40k scores yet though) and I have zhu yuan who I understand brimstone is bis for her.

>>535808267
theres just something about a nice big brapper in a bear of tight american blue jeans that just gets me lucid with lust

>>535808267
if you already clear why would you need more damage

>>535808138
>Yea, i have no basis in the argument and just wanted to autistically bitch about a non sequitur
ok?

>>535808267
If you're F2P, new character pulls have infinite value.

>>535808342
It's a post apocalyptic setting, of course we'll get tragic backstories like these when most of the agents were children when the Old Capital fell

>Alice W-Engine
>Some visual effect on her weapon
>Orphie W-Engine
>Her dagger has a red aura
>Seed W-Engine
>Neither Seed Sr or her funnels have any effects
This is such a missed opportunity

We're gonna get our free car in 6 hours bros!

When the AoD sell gorillions, the transmeltdown will be insane, get your filters ready

>>535808342
prease understand
xey literally cannot write anything nuanced as an origin story because nuanced discussions of uncomfortable truths is verboten
mihoyo is very important cultural export for china now

>>535808452
I want a mibicar with a mibiwife on the passenger seat.

>>535808108
>>535808236
You need to point to it because I completely missed this bros.
>>535808147
No one is talking about character number crunching you retarded sea monkey metafag. Learn English.

>>535808347
Yes, keep actual good agents away from your dogshit slop designs

She makes autistic people cry and turns me on. She's perfect.

>>535808108
The concept sheet describes Orphie as as an embarrassing, shy mess. The trailer did more damage to her personality than anything else, because it convinced retards like you that she's some hyper-serious edgelord instead of a girlfailure.

>>535808452
the car collab is hilarious because I think a majority of this gen can't even drive or has a license or car at all

>>535808063
Horsetranny, your response?

>>535808591
she's kinda autistic herself

>>535808342
The fucking Capital literally fell 10 years and that was already in a post apocalypse state.
Why are you motherfuckers surprised there are tons of dead parents?

>>535808591
she makes the schizos paranoid and unhinged, insta pull.

I think it's time to talk about the elephant in the room, bwos
2.1 probably has the best story of all patches, the summer event was cute and fun, and both Yuzuha and Alice are amazing new additions to the game.

>>535808619
Car prices have fuckign skyrocketed in the last 5 years no wonder

>>535808619
Most zoomers I know can drive. Your talking about Gen alpha?

>>535808591
Wife.
>>535808702
It wasn't the best story of all patches, but it was a vast improvement over 2.0 which nearly put me to sleep.

>>535808591
They're going overdrive now that one of the devs confirmed that Seed is hyped as much as Miyabi and Yixuan while "made S-rank by popular demand" Komano wasn't even mentioned...

>>535808703
true if you aren't willing to buy some bing chilling car that has a 50% chance of exploding cars especially trucks have gone to extreme levels, crash soon?
>>535808771
not just gen alpha, but most euros/east asians dont drive (india doens't count you cant call that driving)

>>535808702
story? Best part was the abomination killing all the red shirts.
Alice is cute, Yuzuha is less cute, not amazing design wise but good gameplay.

> devs confirmed that Seed is hyped as much as Miyabi and Yixuan
kek schizo shill found a new mental illness to latch on

>>535808849
>crash soon?
in EU for sure, market is propped up by huge tariffs on chinese cars and it can't last indefinitely.

>>535808849
I mean that's been the case for years hasn't it? Euros and East Asians have trains. I wish we had trains that weren't just to transport goods. Driving is a chore.

>>535808702
2.1 felt like the most coherent small self contained little section since probably Sons of Calydon.
No surprise since around then is when they had to start working 160 hour weeks to try to remake the entire game.

>>535808935
Sister, close your eyes, you'll not like this

>>535809043
NYOOOOO THE TRUTH BLINDS ME. I NEED TO TAKE REFUGE IN MY CAVE.

>>535808702
>probably has the best story of all patches
If we're not counting 1.0, I'd put it right below 1.2, which hasn't been beaten yet.

>>535809043
who's Gigen

>>535809180
Japanese reading of Yixuan

>>535808979
yeah that was my point this gen is probably 5% american on a good day during burger hours at that.
trains as an alternative is a dream I wish fulfilled too, but its nice having an alternative to sharing a cab with 100 people

>>535809043
>dewormed confirmed
Lmao

>>535809043
>have to adjust Miyabi to not be more turbo broken than she already is
>Have to balance Yixuan so she's great but doesn't overtake Miyabi and cause a shitstorm
>have to salvage the trash fire that is sneed so all her cope adjustments that they made in the last few weeks in desperate attempts to sell her
cope brownoid

>>535809043
>Sneed turned into feet pander to optimize sales
To the surprise of no one with a working braincell

I'm rolling for Bitcoin Billionaire Nicole (S RANK)
I'm rolling for Omega Billy the Kid (S RANK)
I'm rolling for Burguer Queen of Hearts Anby (S RANK)

>>535808342
It's tiring. Other post apocalyptic plots can have exciting twists but in ZZZ every dead relative story is always sanitized to the tamest and lamest level.

>>535809371
Israelis are not white

what exactly is it about sneed that triggers the brown masses and troons so much?
not even fufu had this many shitposters

How do you go from a kino design like this.........

Hugo is kinda cute

>>535809371
>>535809405
This game is for my dick to self insert and you trannies can cry all you want.

>>535809448
The flip dislikes waifus, simple as.

>>535809043
kek, where is the shilling then? she's already in beta and is coming next patch, and there is no special treatment in sight, retard

>>535809456

>the anti-seed shitposting brown was just firepag the whole time who has been obsessively mad
who could have guessed this...

>>535809456l
........to THIS?

kot

>>535809536
You're fighting the dev's word, not mine kek
He's the one saying they have to work extra hard for agents that people have high expectations, then mentioning Miyabi, Yixuan, and Seed.

>>535809448
>Replaced the mech character (not really)
>Has a unique character design
>Drives a roomba
>Is cute
>Panders to fetishists
Pick your poison, but I've seen all of these posted

>>535809456
>>535809626

>>535809626
This is the reason why nobody should hire a loli blacked hentai artist to draw mecha.

>>535809448
I like Seed jr but devs really should have shown her model in the 2.0 trailer

>>535809448
You Seed the fields of the lolfarm and wait for the fruits of your work.
It's fucking poetry.

>>535809536
Sister, there's still at least a week left before her trailer start dropping.
You're coping because they're being consistent.

>>535808591
looks like she's wearing a chastity cage or is it just me

Seed is the only OBOL wearing white because she's pure, unlike the rest of her slutty squad.

at this point i'd take a microwaved potato over any more yunkui honkai slop designs

>>535809698
Seed was supposed to be different, this is why people had high expectations, it is literally impossible to have high expectations for something you weren't even aware of, such as Seed's redesign

Seed would've been the perfect token femboy agent

>>535809043
This feels like they simply mean that robofags had high expectation for how the robot would fight, rather than the character itself being super hyped.

>>535809718
The benefits of a robot. You can just get some new breast parts that are bigger if you feel like it.

>>535809997
you wish huh... hahahahaha, don't fret tho, genshin is made for you

They literally couldn't make the robot work. It's too big, too complicated to animate, so they turned Seed into Clara downgrade.

haven't seen the cuckshit spammer in awhile, did they finally get bagged by their local government for cp or something?
zenless zone zero

>>535810065
the line between child for shotacon and femboy is very very blurry

>>535810123
The robot here looks cool. The less we see of Seed Sr, the better.

>>535810123
>fate copied design down to the voice actor
excellent bait saar

>>535810123
>They literally couldn't make the robot work
cope, literally just make it the same size as the bears, they are just afraid to try something different because they're still traumatized by the TV's failure

Wormers official genocide in 5 hours

>>535809626
I honestly prefer Seed Sr.

>>535810397
You have AIDS

>>535809969
>>535810004
You two are forgetting that the Asian side prefers a robot with a waifu instead of an autonomous machine, so the expectation was always "who's inside the mecha"
Hell, you can see them celebrating on Seed's drip on bilibili and saying that they are now changing plans to pull for Seed since it's a cute girl

>>535810210
Svarog indeed looks cool. Seed Sr looks like it was designed by somebody who was never into mecha, so they didn't know how to design one.

>>535810397
Time to play different games.

>>535810553
>>535810004
SEED is cute but I still like Orphie better.

>>535809167
I'm glad to see that people are starting to accept the fact that Tour de Inferno was the first great patch we had, and is still one of the best.
People tend to glaze 1.4 too much, but my ranking would be something like:
1.0
1.2
2.1
1.4
1.6

The rest I don't care enough to rank.