Thread 536815035

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Previous : >>536697689

>Thread Question
Should 'canon' runs exist?

>>536815035 (OP)
no obviously. CRPGs are about the players own unique experiences and journey

>>536815035 (OP)
Imoen owes him sex.

>>536815035 (OP)
Should? No. But it will, especially if you're doing sequels that are still related, something has to be set in stone. Dragon Age is proof of the mess it can become if you bother to account for every single choice the player has made.

>>536815035 (OP)
>Should 'canon' runs exist?
Yeah, glass cano-*dies*

>>536815035 (OP)
> character creation
> let's you choose clothes and their colors
> game starts
> immediately switch clothes for armor piece that is given to you 5 seconds into the game
What is the point?

>>536815035 (OP)
Ok who had the BALLS to put *him* in the OP? Identify yourself.
TQ: No, obviously not.

>>536815035 (OP)
>TQ
yes all of my runs are canon

>>536815035 (OP)
You tell me.

>>536815035 (OP)
>Should 'canon' runs exist?
No because it creates situations like BG3. It might be hard to write around previous events of prior games but that's just one of the unique challenges of making a series of games writers should just get used to. You don't want to invalidate the choices of players. Still on the topic of BG, could you imagine a BG4 where it's like
>Shadowheart canonically died on the mindflayer ship and you just got the deus ex machina box
because that's kind of what 3 did to 1 and 2

>>536815708
so you can wear them in town for rp obviously

>>536816065
Why didn't Revan take his mask off before tanning

>>536816103
larian didn't fucking play BG1 or BG2. I wonder what the original cancelled bg3 game would have done

>>536815708
>Character creation shows off cool armor that's iconic for your class/profession
>Hit start, actually start in rags
>Don't actually look like the role until the last 30 minutes of the game

>>536816393
only larain does this

>>536816393
All of them do this and somehow MMOs are the only one to really avoid it since the concept of transmogs and layered armours don't quite occur to people.

>>536814341
Crpgs are honestly really easy when you have played 3-4 because they all follow the same pattern in some way
>going first is always good
>hybrid builds bad (sometimes okay if you know what you are doing)
>never spread out your characters abilities/skills/talents/levels
>martial classes carries early game
>mages/spell casters OP mid-late game but useless early
>support/buffers always makes your party strong
>never waste turns trying to CC something when you can just DPS instead
>always play aggressively
etc...
>>536816065
is it that bad? I have been playing Swtor recently and wanna do the expansions now that I am done with all the class stories but kinda scared of seeing Bioware ruin Revan from Kotor 1

>Game allows you to change your armor's look to anything else
>I'm stuck in a fashion crisis
The Hellknight armor looks good in WOTR but none of the helmets match besides the Hellknight's retarded helmet. Same with the green armor you get from Staunton

>>536816656
CC is really strong in BG1

>>536816065
>Bastila probably got cucked

>>536816656
>is it that bad?
Hahaha oh buddy that's an understatement

>>536816928
She cheated first

>>536816656
>>never waste turns trying to CC something when you can just DPS instead
This is the only thing I commonly see that I (many thousands of hours over many CRPGs) don't necessarily agree with. I can sometimes see the point but I don't think it's always necessarily true, and even more importantly, it often ends up being a very one-dimensional way of playing which at least for me, can end up being really tedious.
But I also don't think choosing mass Hold Monster over some massive damage spell is choosing to gimp myself either. Consider the fact that now *everyone* in the party can (attempt to) coup de grace, for instance. This may end up being quite a lot more powerful than just (attempting to) spam damage.
Also if charm/dominate is considered under CC, I think it's by far the most powerful type of mechanic in CRPGs. Immediately not only reducing the enemy ranks, but also increasing your own... Is massive and even OP in many cases.
In Pillars it gets pretty interesting due to all the buff/debuff over time things that can go on, and suddenly you might accidentally be hulking out some charmed enemy who moments later will turn back against you, ... But that danger and consideration also adds to the fun. And if you're careful you can avoid it, or just deal with it.

>>536815035 (OP)
>Should 'canon' runs exist?
I think so, yeah. Because the alternatives are
>every choice mattered and carry over
Which is really cool, but I have no doubt about it snowballing very quickly like it did for Dragon Age

or

>All of your choices are canon :^)
Which means none of them are and almost nothing can be referenced from the previous game in a way that isn't the most vague bullshit. That can be fine if it's supposed to take place somewhere or sometime where those events are barely remembered or heard of, though.


But of course then you run the risk of absolute dogshit runs being canon like BG3 with Sarevok relapsing into incest and Viconia remaining completely unchanged. (Being a Pally and cuddling the Neutral Evil out of her is the best thing in BG2)

>>536816656
>>536818641
Before I got rambling I also wanted to add to your list, focusing down on one enemy is almost always better than scattering damage around. Almost always, enemy attack potential is the same for them at full health or almost dead, so something like facing 6 almost dead enemies is considerably worse than facing 2 healthy/4 dead enemies.
I can't think of any exceptions to this off the top of my head except JA3 using Heavy Wounds which applies to enemies as well as your party.

>>536818824
>spoiler
keldorn disapproves. which is why you play a neutral good ranger instead

>>536818824
>Sarevok relapsing into incest
Can't blame him desu

>>536819060
Keldorn can suck my fucking dick. He was acting unwise near the proto-pally halfling pussy when the man is married.

>>536819248
wish I could relapse into incest with imoen ngl

>>536819248
I can, he's supposed to be better then that

>>536819317
Halfling pussy...

>>536819317
I love how much of a cunt Korgan is to everyone but how badly he simps constantly for Mazzy

>>536819060
actually now that I think about jt I'm gonna replay bg1 now as an archer(ranger kit) because I haven't done that before

Does Paladin synergize well with Angel Path?

>>536820368
Thematically, yes
Mechanically, no

>>536820498
Traveling at Night soon

Okay hold on. Even the typical Necron is borderline unkillable, there is an entire galaxy spanning empire of them, they have the best tech in the setting with some of the most absurd weapons imaginable, higher up in the hierarchy they're basically arch wizards, and they have the shards of gods stapled to their thrones to shoot laser beams?
Why is Chaos considered the big bad of 40k again?

>>536820368
Who cares about synergy when you have Mark of Justice? You won't be spamming Bolt/Storm of Justice like a faggy Oracle but Angel still gives melee some nice buffs. Synergy is a meme, just have fun.

I'm seriously regretting the Azata path, this fucking dragon is insufferable.

What alignment in BG1 gets you the most out of the game in terms of flavor, content, etc?

>>536820368
I don't think any class synergizes with Angel Path. Afaik it's its own thing, like Aeon

>>536821157
I don't think it matters at all. What matters is your reputation in respect to your companion's alignment, but not your alignment itself. But if you want to "content max" just don't pick Cleric or Paladin, as they can lose their powers if they're not the correct alignment - but even then I wouldn't sweat over it.

>>536815035 (OP)
I'm neutral on canon runs existing, I'd rather they didn't but they don't bother me that much. The thing that rubs me the wrong way is people treating it like that means its the "right" way to play. Who gives af whats canon, its an rpg. The whole point is to make your own story and experience.
>>536821157
I like playing evil just because the companions are more fun but it honestly doesn't matter. The game plays out pretty much the same no matter what. Good is kind of easy mode because higher reputation gives you discounts in stores and evil party members leave if your rep gets too high.

>>536821149
You know what you must do
Eat the dragon
Eat everything

>>536821157
There are minor differences actually. You'll get slightly different sequences and (very minor, almost not worth mentioning) powers.
I think BG1 (and into BG2) is best played with a good amount of RP, so the 'best' is just having a solid character and really doing whatever they'd do. Don't take out-of-character options for some kind of reward or anything like that... Don't take companions that your character wouldn't, don't do quests that your character wouldn't.
I think this is the funnest way to play.
That and a couple mods...

>>536821157
alignment barerly matters in bg1, all I remember is it affecting starting rep, bg2 has more alignment related stuff I think but its still mostly just a flavor thing

also I would say dont be afraid to mix and match alignments in your party, some companions get along unexpectedly well like alora and edwin, which you wouldn't think so at first glance considering they have opposite alignments. i wish alora was in bg2, she's sweet and I would've liked to see more of edwin being soft around her

Owlcat could learn a few writing lessons from pillars.

>>536822879
yeah, like gay fish instead of straight ones

>>536822874
That's a fair point, and also some conflict in the party can just be part of the overall story. I have a few moments like that from when I first played that really stuck with me, even if they sucked at the time haha.

is pikmin a crpg

>>536822879
The only writing I have ever liked from those games is the first 30% of one and the island goddess shit in not!skyrim which is completely out of place with the rest of that game.

>>536823950
Its not on a computer no

>Kingmaker canonizes Indian caste ideology
Brehs...

>>536824274
Retard, what do you think a computer is, let's hear your highschool drop-out definition

Owlcat could learn from rome expedition's map design. Their levels are always confusing

Owlcat could learn from rome

Owlcat did decide to learn alot about turn based combat from wasteland.

>>536824394
oh great, they're even invading my fucking fantasy games

>>536824848
Wasteland is hot dogshit. Turnbased with guns only is sooooo homosexual

Dropping Yrliet in the middle of New Delhi

>>536824939
>only guns
There are multiple different melee weapons

>>536822879
owlcat could learn a few things from a middle school creative writing class.

>>536825159
By guns I meant mundane weapons in general. CRPGs should be for weird stuff like spells or insane technology that cant be done in normal games you actually play.

>>536825458
There is tons of sci-fi and wierd science gimmick weapons in wasteland.

>>536824394
Kino

Expanse idea, just rip off wasteland and add in proton axes

>>536824394
This gal was best artisan, no other holds a candle. Every story was top-tier.
Wish she made something other than just endless fauchards.

>>536825987
Expanse idea, ignore the books and actually add aliens. What the fuck are you doing making a space game without aliens.

>shitpants
not a crpg retards

Pillars seems to be really hit or miss here. Planned to give it a try since I'm kind of burnt out on Owlkek games. What's generally the reason anons don't like it?

>>536827707
Exposition dumping mostly. There's a LOT of text, even for a CRPG.

>>536827707
It's basically like half a game. Plot is mediocre and the core concepts are plagiarized. Combat is balanced but not interesting. Companions are there but not engaging.

>>536825987
I just want a significant portion of the game on Mars so we can see what it actually looks like. Also I want to fight a full Martian squad with power armour.

>>536826981
You'll get your supertall belters and you'll like it

>>536827707
Pillars taught me generic and bland weren't the same thing

>>536825458
This >>536825629 but also completely disagree. There's nothing about CRPG that has to imply 'weird stuff'. I find JA3 to be a really nice set of standard buffs/debuffs, a nice action economy, and so on. What's so different about throwing a mustard gas grenade vs casting cloudkill? And what's so 'weird' about recycling the same DnD-adjacent stuff over and over, anyhow?

>>536827707
>fast weapons don't deal any damage
>slow weapons don't deal enough damage to outpace fast weapons
>muscle wizards
>the worst worldbuilding ever
>one of the worst "plot twists" of all time

>>536826469
They couldn't even come up with a cool reason as to why Achaekek kills Gorum
Everything about it is lame

>>536828384
>still seething about muscle wizards
Its not even the best way to build a wizard, get over it

>>536828375
Well I'd rather play mechwarrior 5 than battletech crpg version. I just find it hard to stay interested when it's turnbased combat in games like that. Takes forever to just shoot at each other and the tactics of using cover as well as the skill builds are less cool than magic

>>536828923
cope and seethe, tard

>>536828006
>There's a LOT of text, even for a CRPG
Man, people keep repeating this but I just don't see it.
I recently replayed it and was taken aback by how little that was a thing, after that narrative going for so many years I was expecting a literal novel. No, it was on pretty much the same level as any CRPG. Maybe a little more text-heavy? But less than Disco Elysium, less than Planescape: Torment. Honestly I even felt more fatigued by the reading in RT than I did in Pillars.
I really don't understand the "THEY POUR 30,000 PAGES OF LORE ONTO YOU" thing.

I have my complaints about Pillars but it's never been the lore or amount of reading.
Sad that so many anons here didn't like it, but I also know from sitting in this thread all the time that a lot of anons have liked it, too. I enjoyed it the first time I played it and also on my replay.

>>536827707
I think it's worth a try. My biggest complaint is that the encounter design is bad, like someone decided there must be X number of encounters per map, rather than setting them mindfully. The combat itself I found a lot of fun though.

>>536828384
>fast weapons don't deal damage
>slow weapons don't deal damage
So what you're saying is you're retarded.

>>536829083
>But less than Disco Elysium, less than Planescape: Torment.
The difference is those two games are very light on combat, something Pillars isn't, so those two games being text heavy is to be expected.

>>536829313
Respectfully, that's retarded.

>>536829610
ok well enjoy the worst 1-2 punch in CRPG history with the Pillars series

>>536829083
90% of complaints about pillars posted here is total bullshit but the encounter design in pillars 1 is a genuine problem. Way too many encounters that don't matter.
When you do run into a well designed encounter or a big boss fight the combat is great but there's a lot of filler fights between those. I feel like its the midgame that drags the most.

>>536820909
Necrons are too busy sleeping and fighting each other
Chaos has infinite daemons

>>536827707
it's meh but held up by obsiditards

>>536828384
>fast weapons don't deal any damage
>slow weapons don't deal enough damage to outpace fast weapons
>muscle wizards
Retard

>>536830561
In my first playthrough when it came out, towards the end, after a restart or two, I eventually just put it down to Easy to cruise through.
In my recent playthrough I think I knew to expect the bad encounter design, so I didn't mind it as much? It's still bad and something they did better with Deadfire. But, I was more able to just accept it and try a few different tactics or something, or just accept it as a short little grind. A few areas in the White March gave me a hell of a time, but mostly the challenge was right about perfect for me on PotD and my preferred unoptimal way of playing.

>>536830561
Yeah I got pretty sick of trash encounters in midgame poe1.

>>536829212
>>536831551
no anon
clearly you are because you're incapable of understanding that weapons don't do damage at all and constantly do the same due to balance

>>536829083
I think a lot of people here just skim everything to get to the combat and don’t have the attention span for a paragraph.

>>536832853
cool story, obsidiot

>>536833071
Sorry I forgot about console war tier autists. You’re here too.

>>536829083
If the writing is boring it feels like it's longer. Sawyer is simply a hack.

>>536832116
And like I said you're retarded.
>muh balance
god shut the fuck up, you niggers say it like its a dirty word.
Would you rather the RT approach to balance and just have everything die in one turn? God forbid you actually have to play the game. Everyone complains when a game is too easy but no you can't balance anything or subhumans will throw a shitfit.

>>536827707
Its very dry and overly serious. I don't need Marvel quirky humor but some fun please.

>no, you don't understand
>everything being the exact same means it's actually a good game

>>536833643
You haven't played the game. There are clear pros and cons to every weapon type and most of them have some use.

>>536834173
pfffffffffff

Is this retard's complaint really that faster weapons deal less damage but hit faster and slower weapons deal more damage but hit slower. For real? lmao

>>536834267
a weapon that deals 1 damage per second is functionally indistinguishable from a weapon that deals 0.25 damage 4 times a second, especially in rtwp slop

>Age of Decadence
>Weapons of different sizes have different speeds with accommodating damages
>Their own innate passives to differentiate them on top of it
>High STR drastically increases those small size damage increments
>Critical strike can make any weapon deadly even in the hands of a STRlet and bypas armor while a STR behemoth can ignore CS to cleave through everything regardless or add it on for even more damage
>Unique passive to every weapon type to add an extra facet to combat and character building

>PoE
>>536834590

>>536834590
Except if you'd actually played the game you'd know that action speed does matter in poe

>>536834926
maybe that's where you should start then because otherwise from your description you think there's nothing wrong with dividing damage by attack speed and having two identical weapons

>>536835048
he's talking about interrupt
and guess what fast weapons have less than slow weapons for?

I'm just starting Act 2 of Rouge Trader, I'm having fun. Is the DLC worth it? When is best to get it?

>>536834813
>Unique passive to every weapon type to add an extra facet to combat and character building
You realize pillars has this exact same thing? Thanks for proving my point

>>536834813
Have you heard of our lord and savior, the Khopesh? Fast, light, and curved for extra bleeding! Can't go wrong with a good Gladius, but they're only really good for being light. Shamshirs are too curved and shitty for my liking. Deal enough bleed already. Handar? What the hell do you need to carve through armor with a sword? Aimed torso with a Khopesh
>>536835239
LOL
LMAO

if pillars were a good game, it'd be liked here
and if pillars were a well made game, it'd at least be praised for that here

evidently it's neither

It's always really obvious that the majority of the retards here don't play any crpgs and just spend their time shitposting about them here instead. Even the thread darling owlcat games have so much shit posted that some of you retards would know was wrong if you'd ever made it past act 1.

holy fucking cope

I enjoyed every owlcat game, both PoEs, and AoD
I even finished them
you may kneel

>>536834813
>lists a bunch of basic shit that almost every rpg including poe has
wow
it's so deep...

>>536834813
I kept thinking Age of Decadence was a porn game until I saw the art of it

>weapon autism
>in a game where wizards sling fireballs and drop meteors
mmmm yes tell me more about the attack speed of the gladius that's really interesting

>>536836025
>>536836167
>>536836050
it is an unfortunate title

Sawyer's talents are wasted on a crpg, players are cattle that want an epic fistfight with god and can't understand a more nuanced narrative that actually makes them think about the world

Wasteland combat moggs to oblivion btw.

Underrails combat moggs to oblivion.

Solastas combat moggs to oblivion btw.

what does moggs mean is it zoomerspeak

Black Geysers combat moggs btw.

you can tell a lot about the quality of a crpg by its name
I'm not playing Age of Degeneracy and Black Gayser

>>536832116
This just isn't true though.

>weapons don't do damage at all
>constantly do the same due to balance
Are you actually retarded, as in diagnosed and everything?

>>536837959
which crpg has the name with the most oomph and prestige?
is it Jade Empire?

>>536839928
Tyranny

>>536835204
>When is best to get it?
The DLC is already in Act 1

>>536821231
Cleric / oracle though?

>>536821231
>Cleric/Oracle bookmerge
>Thematically, Paladin or any divine class that believes in a good deity
>Even all other classes get a nice compliment with personal divine buffs and Sword of Heaven even if it is not optimal
What more do you want?

>>536828596
>>527564467
>Gorum: Oh no, some of my followers do senseless fighting in my name and wars that lead to lots of harm
>Is war....BAD?
>Suicides by cop to a giant praying mantis so a new War god takes the mantle, who may or may not do a better job and teach war followers a lesson in who knows what
>His divine essence spreads, for mythic rules purposes, a new crisis happens
>New war god is a nihilistic retard, and there is no guarantee a war god after that will not worse than Gorum ever were(and he was not bad in the first place)
>Also, he had some essence of Rovagug stuck in him since he fought in his sealing
>Said esense is now free and in the starfinder future becomes a pure entropy machine that devours everything and may lead to the end of the universe faster

Not sure what the writers hoped to accomplish with this, unless Conan Estate got whiff and would sue over Crom or whatever.

Oath of Incest

>>536846673
>Breaks when you flirt with unrelated women

>>536846553
it should've been iomedae or urgathoa

>The monster disappeared, and silence returned once more. Steam rises from freshly baked cookies and fragrant tea on the table. Arueshalae gazes at her dream. You've never seen such joy on her face. “I... I just want to live here, in the mortal world. With you. I've solved the goddess's riddle. This is my true dream!”

>Arueshalae’s fragile body flares with a rainbow light, a swarm of blue butterflies surrounds her. She looks at you with shining eyes. “I love you. Will you be with me? Will you share my dream?”

>The girl flinches, but doesn’t pull her hand away. She squeezes your hand with her dry, hot fingers. “I believe you. You must be real — I don’t want to imagine a world where you’re not.”

>As if she was just waiting for that, Arueshalae answers your smile with one of her own. “Together, no hardship will scare us. We’ll get through it! We definitely will!”

>The heat radiating from Arueshalae’s body warms you and fills you with peace. Closing her eyes, she leans closer into you, her face moving toward yours...

>Arueshalae takes your hand in her small, hot palm, and the world around you fades away.

I bless this thread with my hands.

Command: Sex!

>>536847173
that's just rape

>>536847517
then why does cha affect it?

>>536847971
CHA isnt just physical attraction its also force of will.

>tfw want to play Expeditions Rome again
goddammit
i should just play viking

>>536837386
When a girl with big tits stands next to a girl with small tits, the second girl is titmogged

>>536848050
so commanding someone with more assertiveness means it's rape?

>>536848050
Man the descriptions for charisma in old dnd really were something

>>536816293
More than the DEI shit I'll never not seethe about this simple fact. They could have just made a new franchise set in FR, they didn't have to ruin an established series.

>>536848509
Commanding someone to have sex with you is rape in general

>>536848690
t. has never had a gf

>>536821231
Any caster that can merge its spellbook with it will synergize perfectly. As for what the spellbook actually gives at higher levels, it makes your prior choices kinda whatever if you want to lean into it: crazy strong buffs, strong nukes that ignore spell resist. Angel just works.

[Smile charismatically]

>>536848549
So all my Pathfinder characters have been borderline autistic (7 cha). Okay, you've convinced me to stop optimizing stats.

Why cant all games have a toybox or console commands that comes with it. Why should I be forced to play the tedious filler combat instead of killing all enemies

>Ordo Malleus got the lowest in the poll by a wide margin
It's so over...

Really want to play a Witch of the Veil, but would have to make the character female and then I can't self-insert. Why couldn't it be called Warlock of the Veil.

>>536850468
those marginsare almost identical

>>536850468
Malleus and daemons are equally each more boring than the other

>>536850725
Being a demon hunter is cool.

>>536849727
maybe this isn't the genre for you

>>536850693
Witch of the Veil is fun, self-inserting is cringe

>>536850468
Makes sense that Ordo Xenos won. Aliens are fun and offer the widest range of possible threats and allies.

What interesting things could they realistically maje for Dark Heresy DPC that isn't just "oh look more cults on the planet"

>>536850845
Yeah, but playing as Ordo Malleus means there's a risk we'd have to interact with Gay Knights and nobody would want that.

>>536851052
Radical inquisitior space marines that have gone rogue

>>536851052
Inquisitor called Alcatraz tries to hijack the Tyrant Star and make it pop in Chaos/Xenos planets so they blow up.
It's only a heresy if he fails, after all

>>536849727
If you play a good game you dont have to worry about that.
Owlcat games are the only crpgs that are so shit and buggy that cheating is the norm

>>536850884
These are roleplaying games, how can you not self-insert?

please be trolling

>>536816293
>>536848578
>tourist doesn't know about abdel adrian

So is starfinder going to be turn based or rtwp?

>>536851127
Why don't muhreenfags like grey knights?

>>536850845
Not in the WH40k universe, because there's no nuance or depth to it. Demons bad, always, without an exception. It makes them okay as a constantly looming background threat but you can't make an interesting story out of it since it will always be "oh cultists pop up, but as we all know demons bad, so we kill everyone and won't even bother including a cultist perspective into this story because why bother when demons bad" or just straight up horror in the vein of "demons are doing scary demon things niggerman save me".
Xenos on the other hand opens up all kinds of potential intrigue and conflict between the different races and factions, the lifeblood of any good story.

>>536851682
Because they are too special snowflakes.

>>536851682
Not a muhreenfag but I'd guess it was because they're the strongest, most ultimate, most super secret, impenetrable plot armor, goodest boys, even worse than the smurfs.

>>536851693
Your average 40kfag also wants to treat xenos as inherently bad

>>536851785
They say that, but like any red-blooded racist what they really want is to colonize and dominate the xenos with their dicks.
>t. red-blooded racist

>>536851785
Only brainlet secondaries
They probably don't even realize you can play as xenos on the tabletop

Radical Ordos malleus quest idea, enslaving demons to work for you.

Any idiot with a melta gun can fry a Space Marine like an egg. They're a massive waste of resources. That's the simple truth. There's a reason why the imperium will fund the training of a billion guardsmen before a single space marine.

The Space Marines are effectively a legacy unit. More ceremonial than anything else. There for morale and image more than anything else. Like a glorified marching band.

Radical Ordos xenos quest idea, enslaving xenos to work for you

More bullshots or legit you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Wv6kkloCU

>>536820909
>Why is Chaos considered the big bad of 40k again?
It really isn't. It just has a lot of exposure, same deal with Marines. Until recently Chaos was stuck in a small space asshole too. Tyranids are the biggest threat, since they are here it means that they devoured and absorbed at least one galaxy (their own) and so it's essentially another galaxy worth of Nids invading Milky Way. Necrons are right after with reality cheats and science defying understanding. Nobody managed to genocide Orks for 60 000 000 years and they were a constant threat to everyone and forming their empires all the time. Unlike whfb where Chaos is actually some eldritch, primordial threat, In 40k Chaos are just some nascent godlings created by space Elves, godlings which only really came to power not even 10k years ago and only really due to Imperium. Even background weird aliens are a bigger threat, like Enslavers, which actually killed the most powerful species in galaxy and scoured almost entire galaxy of life.

>>536852430
idk what that is but it's not a crpg

You can punch aliens. You can't punch the idea of rage.

[Chaotic Neutral] [Attack] "Your "rage punch" tastes awful (lol)! Die!"

>>536827707
It's all, entirely, solely about it's setting and lore and those are absurdly fucking boring in it. It's Forgotten Realms but even more dry and boring. This nukes entire story, quests, locations, villain and companions even
Shit reactivity
Utterly nonsensical RPG mechanics because Sawyer wanted to make every stat usable for every class so now intelligence governs AoE damage just because

How do I avoid a romance with this thing while not insulting her?

>>536852476
>Tyranids are the biggest threat
Nids lore is so fucking gay:
>we destroying the jeanstealer cult but it was a mere part of much larger cult
>we destroyed much larger cult but it was a mere part of invading fleet
>we destroyed invading fleet but it was a mere reckon force
>we destroyed the larger fleet but it there are thousands of such fleets coming
>we destroyed the norn-queen that leads all those fleets but it can just get cloned somewhere and there are still billions of fleets that are coming
This is the point where grimdork becomes too ridiculous. Each faction needs both strengths and weaknesses. And all other factions do have both. Except nids. They have no weaknesses, they are just completely unbeatable no matter what you do. The best you can do is postpone the inevitable.

40k should focus on the good guys

>>536853292
2

>>536853624
thank you anon

>>536853292
just romance all of them and decide which one to pick in chapter 4

>>536853292
Enable dialogue flags in toybox.

>>536853292
Option 2

>>536853292
>one obviously flirty option
>one neutral option
>one rude option
Anon...

>>536853871
I like how they all confront you. They must have agreed on a time together

>>536853992
I suffer from what is commonly known as "autism"

fyi, there was misinformation earlier in the thread. Revan's bloodline with Bastila is still going strong at the time of swtor. Their grandchild is one of the protagonists of swtor, and then her son is another protagonist later on. Revan and Bastila loved each other and had children, but he told her not to follow him into the Unknown Regions when he went to confront the true Sith he saw visions of, to keep her safe.

I don't know why people always lie about stuff.

>>536854214
what? but revan is a lady though?
tsk, more internet lies

>>536854214
hmm

CRPG idea: bottom-up isometric rpg so that I can look up all my dollies skirts and inspect their interesting seams, oh my gosh arue that's such a cute seam let me take a closer look wow it goes perfectly down the middle!

>>536854497
That's the exile, who became a nothing burger and got merked

>>536855242
nah, the exile was a dude

>>536853624
Oh man did I fuck it up already, I picked 2 I wanted it to be a slow burn kind of thing. I fucking hate RPG romances you are fucking forced to be like I LOVE YOU from the first day.

>>536856092
There are multiple stages before an actual romance occurs mate, chill.
Even if she seems thirsty

>>536856092
Cassia is a slow burn anyway
I think you'll get another chance to initiate the romance pretty soon

Canon Exile is Space Jesus, Canon Revan is this guy.

I really love exploring the world of 40k through this game

>>536857148
Left is obviously the correct choice.

>>536856778
Based.

>>536855242
Doesn't canon Revan end up fucking up everything until (you) and the exile fix shit

>>536856778
Maybe Carth Gevan was the real Darth Revan...

>>536776909
>I escaped the arena! They never saw it coming!
>even though they've been doing this for ten thousand years
>I tricked a large xenobeast into smashing through one of the arena walls!
>even though the nearest arena is a platform floating in the void and has no walls
>I've been fighting my way across the city since!
>even though I have no weapon or armour right now
Look, she doesn't want to talk about it. Just drop it.

>>536857882
>I tricked a large xenobeast into smashing through one of the arena walls!
Yeah this was really obvious
She wasn't expecting you to end up in the arena too and expose her lie.

>Argenta romance is added
>just before having sex, she tells you all about this other random dude she fucked once
How do you respond?

>>536858140
>Rogue Trader... I fucked Theodora von Valancius
>*Idira pops out of somewhere* You WHORE!

I don't understand why Argenta makes up these little lies all the time. It's a bad habit.

>>536858312
What lies i normally just tune her out?

>>536858416
Not that anon but she was evasive about the encounter on the One Star planet with the lens cult, obviously made up some nonsense about the arena, then there's the Theodora thing

Idira and Argenta owe me a blowjob while they are arguing in the middle of it

Why does argenta never preform miracles in combat. Isn't that the sisters of battle entire thing?

>>536858718
No only a few Living Saints can do that I think. Like Saint Celestine.

>>536858718
She does. She has a [WP bonus}% chance to outright ignore an attack. This represents her faith kicking in and bending the bullet away from her. The RT, DH, and Imperium Maledictus games all have various other acts of faith that are not represented in RT vidya.

>>536858951
SoB perform miracles constantly every time they go to war. Living Saints are the ones with glowing halos and fire shooting out of their weapons, but your regular SoB can still perform what they call Acts of Faith, which can mean anything from bending a bullet away from vital organs to having the Emperor guide their weapon so it's more accurate and making their sword hit harder. These are all represented in the tabletop wargame, and in the videogame.

Why does argenta a SOB (allegedly) only have two abilities that scale off willpower?

>>536859173
Oh wow cool, I didn't know that

>>536858140
I'm used to it by now. At least Galfrey just kissed the guy.

>>536853871
Don't they all get pissed with you in that case? Cassia gets so sad she mind controls people into suicide

>>536860245
The one you choose is happy as a clam now that she's queen bee. But the others get super upset. They do get over it though.

>>536853871
>just romance all of them and decide which one to pick in chapter 4
I could never
I'd rather play the whole game again 4 times than do that

Shouldn't i be allowed to have a harem as the rogue trader?

>>536860519
I use toybox to turn off jealousy
When I mindmeld with Yrliet she has no idea that I just got done fucking the shit out of Cassia, and vice versa.
My bath attendants know all, but their discretion is absolute.

>>536853871
I've been romancing Cassia and Yrliet, anything else feels too much. Kibellah is just too weird for me, she has no agency and Jae was too eager, I can't do that to Cassia.
The Eldar romance doesn't feel too much like a romance, so it's nice alongside the Navigator's courtly courtesies.

>>536860757
You're completely welcome to fuck around, but you'd have to find a woman that would tolerate it.
I know you have no real experience but women aren't eager to play second fiddle.

>>536860780
>I use toybox to turn off jealousy
Tried it but it feels wrong
I care about my dollies

>>536860919
>the Lord Captain loves ME, you horrid xenos!
>Elantach is MINE. Keep your claws off him, you fish-like freak

>popular=bad and trite
This guy would fit in on /crpg/

>>536861013
jae is a space muslim and kibbles worships me. I should atleast be able to have those two as apart of my harem.

>>536860919
Eventually you'll have to pick one
I always feel bad for the other dolly
Kibellah actually turns out pretty interesting, but yeah she's very easy to influence

>>536861284
Kibble and Jae really hate each other for some reason. I think Jae doesn't really approve of the death cult at all.

>>536861284
Jae and Kib hate each other, they are like the most far apart in beliefs humans can get without heretics. Those two would strangle each other in bed and not the fun way.

If jae and kibbles really loved me they would put aside there hatred and have a cuddle puddle in my bed.

>>536861251
That guy would be ME

Kibellah isn't interested in a casual fling. She wants your soul. And she wants it for all eternity.
You can't even kiss her without first beginning the process of merging your souls together.

She's like the most extreme version of monogamy possible.

>>536853871
>>536854075
This is dogshit and OOC for so many companions to essentially put up with being cucked for the entire game up until a scene near the end of Act 4. Marazhai should be murdering people, Cassia, Heinrix and Yrlitard (assuming there is a romantic feeling) should dump you immediately

>>536862139
>She's like the most extreme version of monogamy possible.
Elf fags are in shambles.

>>536862250
Tbf, most romances are separate. There's no way they would know about each other (besides Jae broadcasting your sex tape)

Your crpg waifu turns into a lifeless, hollow plastic doll each time you are done masturbating. How do you respond?

>>536862319
Jaes whole romance is a humiliation ritual.

>>536862250
>Yrlitard
Does she even consider her relationship with elantach "romance" in humans' understanding of it?

>>536862375
>you are done masturbating
I'll gave to goon for hours

>>536862319
False, they comment on romances in party banter and at times interject in romantic dialogue.

>>536862375
>Your crpg waifu turns into a lifeless, hollow plastic doll each time you are done masturbating. How do you respond?
I don't even know what you're saying. Each time implies she turns back to normal while I'm masturbating, and then turns into a doll when I finish. So should I just edge forever? Is it my masturbation that's causing the doll transformation? Is there a timeline?
I need details

Would you prefer your romances to all start catfighting over you 20 minutes into the game forcing you to pick one well before any of the romances get serious?

Crpg idea: you can only play a male mc, and your only romance option is the female who would have been mc if you weren't.

>>536862718
Reminds me of Varn's lot DLC where clearly Varn should have been the MC.

>>536862614
As a monogamy chad I have no opinion on this because I would never be in this situation.
How can I ask my team to trust me if I betray the one person I'm closest to?

>>536862568
It's a metaphor for how fictional women are only living beings while you're horny.

>>536862835
What part of
>well before any of the romances get serious
did you not understand?

Just listening to Aerie's story is enough for the other elf girls to feel threatened.

>>536862889
Well now I feel foolish.

>>536862889
Duh
This is how horny works

Just found out that the bodice ripper games itt actually have some kind of tabletop rpg combat system attached. Has anyone else ever noticed this?

>>536852430
Lots of cuts in that trailer

>>536862614
Depends on the grounds on which they're catfighting

Aerie: I'm the silliest!
Jaheira: I've known him the longest!
Viconia: I'm the best in bed!

>>536863035
It's a known bug

>>536862438
She goes on and on about your soul and your shared intimacy that is only for you and her etc
So she hits the roof if she gets wind of you holding hands with another dolly

>>536862375
The perfect woman.

>>536862614
I'm not a romancefag but the cat fights in bg2 were pretty kino.
Its been so long but bg2 is still the king of crpg companion banter

>>536862979
I wasn't thinking and I... I'm sorry.

Also no, I think you should be free to do what you want in that regard but also face consequences for doing so. I know plenty of people who play games that have romance options in them and have a really strong reaction to getting caught cheating (ie dragon age or persona), more so than all the killing you usually do.

>>536863159
>She goes on and on about your soul and your shared intimacy that is only for you and her etc
It is a hallucination since she huffs her own farts the whole game.

>>536862979
I didn't like when Jaheira yelled at Aerie.

>>536862614
They all look bogged.

>>536863725
Aerie and Jaheira's eyes always bothered me. Specifically the right one looks like it's on an awkward angle. It's not so bad when you rotate their head to the proper angle but with the tilt I just can't help but notice it

>>536864152
I see what you mean.

>>536862835
based

I like when CRPG bitches fight over me

Viconia is my wife

why are they like this and why can't we become a based chromatic dragon in wotr?

ESL reading comprehension

Is there anyone more retarded than wenduag?

>>536864821
fuck that's hot, tell me that's the original writing and not a mod

>>536864958
Yrliet

>>536864610
>Soren
named after the philosopher?

>>536864805
Chromatics aren't even as good at being evil as golds

>>536865013
It's original, but she's just making it up so you'll break up with her

>>536865013
I never really tried the Viconia romance but if my memory is correct she's lying through her teeth here in an attempt to drive you away since she realizes she's falling in love which goes against her drow heritage.

I've never played a crpg before. I just look at the memes in the thread and pretend.

>>536865492
Me too. I imagine them as a sitcom, or one of those documentary comedies like The Office.

>>536865492
I've participated in countless Kingmaker/WotR wars despite never playing a single minute of either

>>536857645
Long story short:
Exile is irrelevant gal and dies like a jobber.
A sith lord feels the emprer will lead all of Sith to ruin and assists Revan.
Revan was about to kill the emperor, but the Sith turncoat that worked with him gets a vision that someone else will truly finish the emperor(MC of SWTOR) and backstabs Revan, remains in Emperor's service.
Revan was imprisoned and tortured by the emperor.
He escapes and tries to do a plan to kill the emperor, gets merked in a low level SWTOR raid. He gets split in light and dark halves, light half helps your team to stop dark half in post game raid.
He is finally dead, achieving nothing

>>536853383
This is the difference between Japanese and American Godzilla, and why the American Godzilla is garbage. 40k was always supposed to be about humanity's desperate losing battle against unstoppable existential threats. Observe this post and learn.

>>536864610
I still do not know what she says for the other love interests

>>536865292
>>536865367
Fuck, I was already imagining some r34 to commission.

>>536866028
She might have been telling the truth, and lying when she said she made it up

>>536864805
I've definitely played a chromatic dragon-based class before, but I dunno which mod it was from

>>536865895
>I have something to do...
What is she gonna do?

>>536866419
Get you some money

>Kingmaker
>Hit the beginning of Act 4
>Fuck it, decide to do Varnhold's Lot for the loot
>mfw the first map
I forgot the design of Varnhold's Lot is "fuck you and any intention of fun you had, here's CR 12 enemies with CR 8 enemies backing them up. you're level 6. Fuck you."
also mfw Maegar immediately proposes to me

>>536866546
>Tortured the tax collector
>Created a new law to punish him
>Executed him for his crimes
>Stability +3!
Now THIS is a Barony

>>536866546
She's so fucking based

>>536864821
If bg2 came out today there would be spergs throwing a shitfit about this romance every day.

>>536866869
And crying about reddit characters

>>536866869
They'd call the portraits a woke humiliation ritual

>>536866869
That's true for any game regardless of the story. Some people are cucks and want everything to be cuckshit.

>>536866869
Not really. BG2 was the blueprint for plenty of romances that came afterward. Morrigan was essentially a derivative of Viconia and we all know how popular she was. People wouldn't care about the slutty drow being slutty, especially since it's revealed not long after that she was lying.

>>536867210
People shitposted about the romances 20 years ago, and everything today is worse when it comes to any disucssion

>>536867210
>People wouldn't care about the slutty drow being slutty, especially since it's revealed not long after that she was lying.
Dude have you ever seen these threads? When has what actually happened in the game ever stopped anyone?

>act 1 azlanti, feeling breddy good about myself after clearing Vrok + Negromancer + mimic
>forgot about Vemleks
>they can cast level 5 mass inflict wounds
>no fucking way to resist it
>can't get in range fast enough to make them switch to melee
Vemleks more like Vemlekeks amirite

>>536866869
Absolutely, which is partly funny and partly tragic
Internet discourse has been ruined forever hasn't it
On a more comedic note, this does remind me of some Jap eroge company from the late 90's that eventually had some huge scandal and almost went bankrupt because they published a game where one of the main heroines talks about having had an ex boyfriend

>>536866591
Why does this DLC let you be a turboslut

>>536867359
>Dude have you ever seen these threads?
How much of the shitposting is due to a couple autists with too much free time though?

It's weird that if you romance Viconia she starts trying to get Imoen to sleep with you.

>>536867362
>used to make fun of jap fans for stuff like that
I want to go back...

>>536867589
It's her culture, bigot

>>536866869
>current favourite romance is arueshelae who makes no secret of her past of fucking sucking feeding and sneeding
>>536867362
Those two are different things entirely
It's one thing to have a character who has a past history of lovers and you know that ahead of time, it's another to get ambushed with something that feels out of character out of nowhere purely because the writer got butthurt and feels like virginity shouldn't be valued.

The jap fans were rabid over a character they misinterpreted and felt entitled to, westoids just mock it a bit and then pick a different girl or install a mod or something

>>536867508
All it takes is one autist spamming hard enough to get people to repeat their schizo fanfic forever

>>536866979
Normally this sort of humor annoys me (like in dos) but Jan makes it work.
Funnily enough his quest would also cause a lot of shitposting because he gets cucked.

>>536848549
>4-5: Has trouble thinking of others as people.
I mean, if recent years have taught me anything, it's that that's actually probably a bonus to Charisma rolls.

>>536848549
For me?
It's 8-9

>>536850971
This. Ordo Hereticus at the very least has the intrigue aspect of investigating cults, and even then it seems kind of one dimensional and lacking in variety. Ordo Malleus is literally just "Oh hey we heard there's demons over there, let's go". Ordo Xenos has you dealing with just about anything at any time anywhere. Infinite variety.

How shorter will Dark Heresy realistically be?

>>536868760
10 hours.

>>536848549
What is Yrlicunt's cha score

>>536866546
I am still shellshocked by what a fucking slam dunk of a companion and romantic interest Kanerah is. The only real competition for her is honestly Jaethal, but the elf hag is not an option, so uncontested Kanerah stands.

Don't even care for Kalikke lmao

>>536848549
Charisma as a casting stat is retarded, makes no sense

>>536868915
>Don't even care for Kalikke lmao
Don't they come as a package deal?

>>536857148
>[Good] Improve living conditions
>[Evil] Build bigger barracks
>[Neutral] Build more research facilities
>[Chaotic] AIEEEEE BY SIGMAR IT'S TALKING RATS I'M GOING INSANEEEE
>[Lawful] Have sex with la rata
brb sending my resume to owlcat

>>536857148
nerd is obviously the correct choice since you always win by out-teching

>>536857148
My man in the middle's got this shit sorted, we're building the barracks

Is there a single game in which the romance options don't feel completely out of place/phoned in? As in 'sudden confession dialogue option out of nowhere' or 'you did my companion quest so let's go to bed together' or 'you killed the goblins so we're all going to offer you sex right now despite having shown no prior interest.'

Any romance path should require multiple checks (including charisma checks for most characters), a chance of outright failure and a decent bit of time and effort behind a lot of prior dialogue and events to succeed. Otherwise the writers are just shitting on their own characters.

Lawful evil companions are always kino. They're scumbags but don't go full retard about it.

>>536869275
That's assuming the opponents will let you just sit there and do science. Which is not guaranteed if you have crappy military.
Living quarter can definitely wait though.

>>536869501
Technically, quite a few romances fulfill the criteria, yes. Heck, since we mentioned BG2, actually locking in romance and getting physical requires a lot of time and events.
They are still not great.

>>536869580
the lesson, as learned from Civilization, is to rush the resources you need militarily, keep up defenses enough to deter attack but not waste anything on offense, and then just keep researching

>>536869083
If you want but both of them can be romanced individually. Their best and happiest ending though though is he twin wife ending. ust wish Kalikke had more of a character, she's boring as fuck compared to her sister. Kanerah also has a lot of top tier banter too.

>>536868663
Ordo Malleus should be a constant battle against daemonic corruption. Also has the fear of the unknown element whereas cults and Xenos are much more of a known quantity.

>>536869501
Fallout 2 has the deepest romance in gaming

>>536869781
>Ordo Malleus should be a constant battle against daemonic corruption.
Wow, that's so interesting, tell me more.

>>536869501
Raven from Arcanum. There are hard requirements to even get her interested in you like being a male, being human, elf or half elf and having a beauty stat of 10 aka not being ugly.

>>536869083
No, not at all. They can be if you want to, though. I didn't.

>>536869741
This desu. Especially because her storyline is just
>muh retarded """"thief"""" friend group

>>536869102
>[Lawful Good] Genocide every fae and non-civilized monster in the vicinity of the kingdom

>>536869823
You'd weight the difficulty such that playing 100% puritan is effectively a challenge run and that some compromise with Chaos is near-essential. That way you get most players in a 'shades-of-grey' rather than a binary mindset about it. Then you make the rewards of Chaos corruption extremely attractive while constantly dangling the notion that you can always 'get away with' a little more corruption without going full heretic. Then, later on, actually falling to Chaos yourself becomes a serious threat and something which is harder to avoid the more corruption you've allowed. There's loads of interesting stuff you could do with this concept.

>>536869917
The romance itself sucks ass

>>536869741
>twin wife ending
Huh, I should play Kingmaker after all.

>>536857148
>Feed the rats to Catmellia

>>536869501
Viconia in BG2 comes to mind, especially if you're Good aligned, as there is a fine line you need to walk to make her not leave out of disgust and actually managing to change her for the better without getting into the friends with benefit pitfall.

>>536870367
Extremely difficult skill checks and then a single line that implies you fuked is the ideal /crpgg/ romance

>>536869917
That's not even minimum baseline for a decent romance. These are just the bare necessities to preclude a BG3 'we're all DTF no matter what' disaster. Larian has really collapsed our standards it seems.

>>536869501
>including charisma checks for most characters)
It's funny
You correctly identify the issue with how romances are often tacked on
Then you want to add a videogamey ME HAVE 20 CHA YOU DROP PANTIES NOW check

Man it sucks that nothing good ever comes out anymore.
There's nothing to play, watch, listen to, or read.

>>536870687
Charisma stat was a mistake

>>536870338
So basically, Calcazar but with less stuff.

>>536870687
>videogamey
Why should romance be the sole element of an RPG which is not subject to dice rolls? If you want a dating sim, there are plenty to choose from.

Do you think that when game devs and writers finally complete implementation of a romance scene, and they have the
Player character kiss the love interest, they do a fistbump and say
>Finally, Anon is going to win! Yes, Anon, kiss that pretty dolly! You're the best! You're the main character!
Or, do they instead say
>Hahaha I can't believe those little dick tiny manlet incel losers will pay full price and more for this drivelslop, come here Billy the internet and worship my feet in a humiliation ritual while I tell you about these fifty gigachads who rode me in college

bring back racial restrictions for romances
no the super pretty 5'9 virgin elf isn't into your dwarf

Have baby?
Good romance
Don't have baby?
Bad romance

Do you really want your companions to be racist?

>>536870861
What do you mean? There's nothing like this sort of a system in RT.

>>536870895
I think your entire post is incel drivel and you need to touch grass

>>536871045
No, I'm saying that what you're saying is what's interesting about the Ordo Malleus is literally what Calcazar spent the whole time in RT doing, as an Ordo Xenos inquisitor. Which just drives back to the point of why Ordo Xenos is way more popular and won, because Ordo Xenos has infinitely more variety in the amount of scenarios you might deal with, including the sole scenario you can picture for Ordo Malleus which is "accept a little bit of corruption for other benefits".

Also even that scenario sounds like something more proper of the Ordo Hereticus than the Malleus. Ordo Malleus are very rarely going to see demons offering them deals.

>>536870605
There need to be dialogue choices too where the right answer is not obvious

>>536870995
The baby should be equipable

>>536863035
>bodice ripper
not explicit enough to qualify

CRPG idea: women are the enemy.

>>536871351
Sure, but what's I'm describing is one of the core tropes of 40k which hasn't seen a decent implementation in a game yet. You should really feel like you are fighting in a severely weakened state as a full puritan. DoW II tried this a little bit in the expansion but the mechanic was barely there.

I'm saying that instead of observing the temptation/corruption process in a side character, you could actually build the game around it happening to the player. And the advantage of Ordo Malleus is that it's all about the insidious influence of the unknown, daemons beyond your comprehension and all that. Xenos is where 'doing deals' (yet another precarious alliance with the Eldar) happens in nu-40k, and Hereticus would probably be more about joining or taking over an existing cult than something novel centred around the PC

>>536871918
>DoW II tried this a little bit in the expansion but the mechanic was barely there.
You dumbass, full purity in Chaos Rising is extremely strong. Full heresy is also strong, just differently. The mistake is being a middle-of-the-road buffoon.

>>536872105
There you go then.

>>536872105
Now that you've mentioned this, and this is a general crpg issue more than a 40k specific issue, I fucking hate how game devs never reward/barely account for a middle-of-the-road approach when it comes to these kinds of morality and corruption storylines. That should actually be the most narratively engaging path to take where your character is torn between one extreme and the other, but it always results in you just missing out on stuff.

Ah yes, quite simple

>>536870575
The proto-Wenduag.

>>536872508
Viconia was hot
Viconia was not dumb
Viconia was loyal
How is she the proto-oppositeofallthesethings

>>536872307
Which is exactly what I'm proposing in a fully fleshed-out corruption system. Radical/toeing the line of corruption and going full heretic would be the two options where most of the narrative and power payoff lie. Puritan would be a challenge run of the kind that people always want to do anyway for its own sake.

>>536872840
Owlsloppers have a completely different game in their head than what they actually played

>>536870895
You actually have a point insomuch as some modern media do have a clear agenda. See Joker sequel being written specifically to antagonize its perceived audience. See most "woke" or DEI checkbox media that throw a bunch of ugly stereotypes meant to appease various more or less obscure groups (but not really successfully doing so) and then gaslighting its audience that they're bigots for instinctively reacting negatively to it.
But mostly touch grass, sometimes it really is just about kissing the pretty dolly and its just meant to be a wholesome and fun fantasy.

Isn't this a far more appropriate class for Nenio?
Having a much smaller spellbook doesn't seem to be much of an issue considering she rarely talks about her own magical abilities in dialogues

>>536872840
Wenduag is a hot spider slut.
Wenduag is a total retard, but that's actually an attractive trait in a woman.
Wenduag is loyal to strength, you just didn't do a good enough job displaying your strength to her.

I bounced off of Wasteland 3 a few times. I didn't get too far though. Is it worth a revisit?

>>536870895
mental illness

Kingmaker but you have to actually understand politics and garner the support of the people

Which Owlcat girl would insist the hardest on you finishing inside her?

>>536873810
Anyone who undertands politics should know that "support of the people" is a meme.

>>536873468
>loyal to strength
Is that something cucks actually tell themselves?

>I want my full heresy run to be super powerful!
>But I also want my middle-of-the-road, carefully optimised run to be super powerful!
>AND I want my deus vult full good hand of justice run to be SUPER DUPER POWERFUL!
maybe go fuck yourself
>inb4 we aren't the same posters
Fight it out in an arena and then decide what you actually want

>>536873859
Arueshalae

>>536816293
my dream game don't exist~

>>536874013
>AND I want my deus vult full good hand of justice run to be SUPER DUPER POWERFUL!
My idea is literally the opposite of that. Reading comprehension.

>>536873420
I mostly don't mind the flavor/lore of the companion builds, the only one I really don't get is why Lann is a Zen Archer of all things.
On a related point, I don't get why they didn't give Greybor a much more monstrous point buy at least, given how late you get him. Throwing companions at you late in the game runs counter to how most people play these games, like once you have an established party and got used to it for 50-60 hours why would you change anything up unless the companion had huge mechanical benefits and/or was very compelling. Greybor is talked up as a super efficient assassin, but he's just a shitty, squishy dwarf deep into a class that can't really be pivoted into anything else.

>>536873420
>cheats

>>536873468
>run into some pitiful retarded demon who says he's the strongest
>wendu betrays you
>easily kill both of them
I wasn't strong enough...

>>536874269
Your "idea" violates the tried and tested paladin power fantasy that is sacred here on /crpg/, just because nobody else is telling you that your "pathetic puritard weaklongs!" idea would make a shit game doesn't mean anything, they're just too polite to tell you that your fucking concept blows ass. The Emperor Protects.

>>536873810
>garner the support of the people
What about instead of that I set my spies to concocting a scheme where we kill a large number of our own citizens and blame it on a foreign power, thereby instantly drumming up support and gaining casus belli to start a war which further distracts the populace and lets me enrich my loyal underlings, all while entrenching my own political power.

Camellia scratching up your back in the throes of passion

>>536874758
God will not allow such evil to trespass unpunished

>>536874013
>>536874269
Or here's another idea. Combine this with what I was describing in the last thread about a proper 40k plot involving humanity fighting a losing battle. Have a Puritan party steadily get weaker over time, relatively speaking, as resources, map areas, and companions fall to Chaos. That way you need to succumb to some level of corruption just to 'stand still' against the difficulty curve. Maybe later enemies have abilities that can only be countered, defended against, or weaknesses which can only be exploited via some degree of daemonic corruption.

The biggest problem I'd see is giving the player compelling mechanical/non-narrative reasons to toe the line as a Radical instead of diving in full heretic.

>>536874753
Chaos should be more powerful, otherwise why would anyone fall to it?

>>536874753
you are a faggot
t. someone else

>>536874359
>Lann is a Zen archer
Mongrel hunters are probably all ranged warriors like Wendu, but he specifically talks about muh meditation and muh improving myself in the hopes of overcoming his nature and all that bullshit
They also probably just wanted to showcase the monk class but couldn't find any other fitting companion for it; it's weird they didn't make a cavalier companion as well to showcase mounted combat, but Seelah already fits the "valorous soldier" archetype and she's an iconic so her class is locked
Funnily enough your observations apply to Trevor as well (and kinda Galfrey), but at least in KM the very last companion you get (Nok-Nok) is perfectly viable from the get-go

>>536874383
Back to /gsg/, tranny
Oh wait....

[Sneedful] I don't like Fucking and Sucking. Die.

>>536870687
>videogamey ME HAVE 20 CHA YOU DROP PANTIES NOW
i interpreted it more as a minimum requirement for a romance to even be available
kinda how different people have a certain degree of attractiveness they don't go below of to consider someone worth dating, all else being equal

>>536875442
Ciar is the cavalier companion

>>536875194
It's gonna blow this dude's mind when he finds out you can play stuff other than humans in 40k

>>536871024
Yes. But they need to be based, which Aerie isn't - so fuck her and get booted out of the party instantly

>>536875645
but attractiveness is more than CHA, looks, or any single stat you want to use

I wanna smooch her.

>>536875375
Impure hearts, lack of faith, evil minds.
But God is always more powerful than Satan. To have compromises grant more power to the player than steadfast righteousness is nothing but a wretched subversion of the knightly christian values that RPGs must represent.
Burn the wizard at the stake.
Tar the bard in feathers.
The knight commander shall save the day ( holy emperor's puritan maximum inquisitor forma de angel paladin).

>>536875442
Have I fucked something up or is the early WotR party seriously imbalanced? Lann stands at the back shitting out massive ranged crits 3x per round with AoE cleave damage, meanwhile most other party members are attacking one relatively meagre attack per turn and Nenio contributes precisely nothing as the enemies roll saves against her CC.

>>536875775
Hasn't been done well outside DoW and won't sell as an RPG. I'm just being realistic.

>>536872508
Not quite. I did romance both and I ended up disappointed with Wendu for expecting her to be like Vic. Wendu is deeply insecure about her power and doesn't mind playing second fiddle to the strongest so long as it gets her an upperhand, so much so that after Act 2 she just turns into Starscream until Act 4 or 5, when she gets the chance to try and one-up you, or convert you into being retarded like she is, which is survival brain in overdrive. I still like her, and did romance her, but she's a lot "sneakier" than Viconia.

As for Vic herself, she's the "once bitten, twice shy", but she's been bitten 30 times over. She grew up being the alpha bitch, like Wendu, but she legit, deep down, wanted to create a real connection with someone and not just obtain more power. She thought she had it with her family in the Underdark, but she was betrayed. Then she fled to the surface, befriended two farmers (a dad and his son) and then when they found out she was a Drow they immediately tried to kill her. So she is disillusioned and jaded, but you can pull her out of her shell.

>>536875961
that's just an example, people can use whatever combination of stat checks they deem necessary to define what a character finds attractive

>>536876407
Oh my god she is starscream

>>536876148
No, Lann is going to be one of your better damage dealers with an elementary archer build because he doesnt need to make himself vulnerable like Woljif or Regill. Spellcasters need a lot more DC bonus feats and items to get going, especially spell pen.

>>536876330
>I'm just being realistic.
>Wants a pro-Chaos mechanic
kek

>>536851052
SLAUGTH!! Give me some peak horror

>>536878306
Also pic. We need those. Perfect secret real threat for this game

Would adding sex really fix Yrliet's romance?

>>536851052
Greater Daemon invades your mind and shows you the truth about the Emperor, now your character becomes hunted by your former allies as a presumed heretic while trying to figure out what to do with this forbidden knowledge.

>>536878884
it would ruin it

>>536876148
>Nenio contributes precisely nothing as the enemies roll saves against her CC.
Save or suck life in general unless you go for specific gear and specific builds and even then in WOTR its in that position where a lot of enemies are straight up immune to what you can do by the time it comes online. I do still have fond memories of a Weird caster I made once because there's nothing quite like an entire screen of enemies including a boss dying instantly without even damage numbers popping up. So clean.

>>536879159
Except it doesn't work because canonically chaos ALWAYS are just fucking with you in some way.

Which romancable Owlcat girl has the hairiest bush?

>>536879574
I mean even without expanded arsenal shenanigans enchantment alone can cover pretty much everything with a dip for undead bloodline

>>536878884
Yes and it should result in children

Oath of Impregnation

Saarue did canonically fuck the shitball

The King, The Knight Commander and The Rogue Trader will impregnate all the women He sees fit.

>>536879854
Valerie, for sure.

>>536881239
You don't think she shaves or trims it down there?

>>536881186
>Baron doesn't even get a mention, in fact it's the opposite with Valerie
>KC just gets Arue in a DLC addon, Wenduag, despite being a follower of Lamashtu who won't stop talking about breeding, actually gets upset when you ask her to have kids
>RT just has Kibbers, whose kid gets sucked into the web too
Hero of Ferelden and Gorion's Ward still lead by miles (ironically, both romances were written by homosexual men)

>>536881864
Why, because she's a lawtist? kind of a shortcut don't you think?

>>536879854
take a wild fucking guess

>>536881864
Probably doesn't out of spite for Shelyn

>>536879854
Wendog

>>536882125
>RT just has Kibbers, whose kid gets sucked into the web too
Kid just knew Bladedancer is a busted Archetype

>>536882983
The kid is going to be a psyker like their mom. Probably a much stronger one too, given the ridiculous amount of warp exposure Kibellah has been subject to.

Camellia smooth, soft and perfect elven skin pressed against your body. The nipples on her perky tits pressing against your chest. A feeling of pure bliss envelops your entire body as your hard cock enters her tight elven pussy. Her legs quickly wrap around you in a tight embrace while her nails dig deep enough for a little blood to run down your back. You let out a moan before she quickly replies: Pleasure and Pain, is there a better combination?

>>536883752
corpses can't talk

>>536857148
How can I make the right decision if I don't know how advanced are my enemies, how big are their armies and how numerous is their populace?
Release the intel rats.

>>536884027
How come you're talking then?

Don't tell Camellia, but I cast raise dead and programmed amnesia on all the people she kills.

When Aeldari mate the male has the continuously fertilize the female even during pregnancy over a long period.
I hope Larry bloats the femquisitor's stomach with copious amounts of Aeldari sperm.

>>536883752
Post your smut on Tumblr where it belongs

>>536885402
Out of curiosity, are you the audience that creates the demand for all that exaggerated body proportions porn?

Handholding with the kroot

>>536885628
What? No.
Just bloating a tummy with cum and a big elven cock

A CRPG where you choose your initial stats and then take a personality test to further alter them.

If you tank int, you completely misunderstand the test questions and end up with really fucky results.

which crpg allows me to indulge in extreme bloodlust

A crpg where you play the average commoner with 10 in all stats and leveling up is not allowed

>Secret ending in wrath: become a deity
>Secret ending in RT: control a deity
What will the secret ending in DH be? Lots of possibilities for a Radical Inquisitor but what about a Puritan?

Holy shit, really, literally, 90% of this thread is talking about bideogame "romance" with your dollies.

Honest question: Do you who post this kind of shit feel good about the amount of time and mental energy you spend on it?
It just strikes me as so terribly sad.

>>536815035 (OP)
final fantasy is my favorite crpg why isnt it on the list??

>>536886121
This but you can completely ignore the test because fuck you.
>>536886363
Daemon Prince ascension.

Did Owlcat specify that you begin the game as an inquisitor?
Because that's almost never the case in tabletop. You start out as an expendable operative, very often pressed into service against your will and sent on suicide missions. If you survive long enough and the people above you die fast enough then you might get promoted before you mutate into an abomination and get purified by some sister's flamer.

>>536886558
Sawyer...

>>536886123
WotR demon

>>536886558
How about instead of complaining about a discussion that's already over you just start one that you want to have?
Or would you rather continue talking about romance every thread from now on?

Romance is as fundamental to a CRPG as dialogue choices.

>>536886778
pretty sure they said you start as an acolyte

>>536886968
Is Planescape Torment not a CRPG because it lacks romance?

>>536886778
This anon is right >>536887069
You start off as an Acolyte that can later become an Inquisitor.

>>536886712
Daemon Prince ascension is already in RT and also would fuck over puritans who get nothing

>>536887339
I kissed Ravel tho

>>536887339
Did I stutter?

>>536886961
>Or would you rather continue talking about romance every thread from now on?
My dude, this is already the case.

And honestly, it's really fucking sad.

>>536887339
You take Annah's first kiss. Is that not romantic?

>>536889772
There are romantic elements, but nothing close to what the players understand as "romance" and therefore Planescape Torment is not a real CRPG and should be removed from the OP's list

>>536889912
You mean sex?

He spoke the truth, but they refused to listen

Owlcat just posted Black Crusade, Wrath & Glory, Only War and Deathwatch books
It is OVER forever for 40khaters

Why aren't your other romantic companions upset when Jae leaks your your sex tape?

>>536891137
They save it a goon material

>In addition to all the perilous adventures we have in store for you in Warhammer 40,000: Dark Heresy, we are also developing a new and exciting Investigation mechanic. In this interactive mini-game, you will be able to investigate crimes, analyse evidence, and dispense verdicts. But remember, your decisions will have consequences.
so colonies are being replaced by pixel-hunting and more puzzles??? wtf

>>536891137
Cassia gets flustered so she knows what to expect now. Real answer is that they're all written by different people that don't talk to each other.

>>536890904
Why would they do a wrath and glory game? It's just a dogshit system with no real theme attached to it.

>>536889772
>looks like this
>hasn't kissed anyone
Is she like 14 years old or what?

Cassia gets jealous if you romance another girl

>>536892994
>Miss Argenta, I am filled with jealous thoughts about my beloved. What do I do?
>Think of another man lmao
Why is she like this?

>>536892994
>be fish
>your fairytale prince starts fucking another girl
of course she's gonna be upset.

>>536892720
So they could whatever they want. Like Eldar Corsair cRPG
Memes aside I think their next 2 games aren't 40k, as funny as it would be. Unless Expanse flops hard enough for them to be forced to go back for more guaranteed 40k bucks, but by then whatever one of their next 2 games is, would exit preproduction anyway.

>>536892953
Sigil is a strange place inhabited by even stranger people.

I think Annah mentions that everyone around her was too cowardly to try which makes sense given her aggressive attitude.

>>536893631
Owlcat loves their cuckoldry

>>536893631
In Argenta's defense, "Close your eyes and think about the Emperor" is how 40K works 90% of the time
Especially as a Sister of Battle, she literally doesn't know another way.
Makes me wonder how the other companions would reply in answer to Cassia's query.

>>536892953
Gods look at this regular human girl with regular human face and regular skin tone and regular everything except the tail, it is clear tieflings will never be like us

>>536894330
this is wrong. Dark heresy is actually a xenos dating sim

>>536890873
We didn't deserve you, Sawyer.

>>536894695
For a moment I thought Sawyer died.

>>536894498
Can I ask a question? In the Tabletop Dark Heresy game, is there romance?

>>536894459
abelard:duty to the rogue trader
idira:dude weed
heinrix: reccomends a self help book or some sort of mental exercise
yrliet:lol lmao
pasqal: something something layperson
jae: just win your man back babe
wolf marine:I am woof marine
mazipan: some murder always takes my mind off things
kibbles: good but also weird blood cult advice
space cop:I have not played the new dlc yet

>>536815035 (OP)
I think canon "runs" no, but certain individual events being canon makes sense. Ideally if you sequelize or make another game/media entry within the same setting you will try to reference as few individual events from the given game as possible, exactly to avoid making too many things "canon"

IT'S OUT

>>536887552
because the reward for dogmatards is nothing, it's lore accurate

>>536895212
qrd?

>>536886363
I hope its not something retarded and powerscale bullshit. I hope DH is similar to kingmaker

Do you get to the /crpgg/ often?

>>536883752
cute

>>536895212
buy an ad

>>536883752
I don't have a cock

>>536895003
homo ERP is a critical part of any 40k tabletop game

>>536895435
I mean, it's 40k and you're playing as an Inquisitor, so yeah. I can't imagine it won't involve xeno tech and not be a power fantasy. Like the stakes for an Inquisitor game are too high for the secret ending to be something relatively small scale like Kingmaker

>>536895925
your an accolyte and it takes place entirely on one planet iirc, thats inherently smaller scale than the RT galavanting around the kronous expanse

>>536896074
>The game will take place in the infamous Calixis Sector, located in the Segmentum Obscurus. The main plot will unfold in the Scintilla System. It is the focal point of power, politics, and corruption in the whole sector. Scintilla is an overpopulated, polluted, and ancient place that hides dreadful secrets. Scintillian hives are built on bones, bathed in light, and ruled from the shadows.
System
We may be flying around solar system DoW2 style, or RT act 1, even if most of the content is on capital itself

So what's the chain of comand for inquisitiors? I'm assuming acolyte is at the bottom?

>>536896074
>your an accolyte
Only in the beginning, it'll presumably be like Kingmaker where you go from being a Baron to a King.
>takes place entirely on one planet
They've said that most of the game will take place on the planet but there will be portions of the game where you go somewhere else. I can imagine something similar to Commorragh, Alushinyrra or an epilogue chapter.
>thats inherently smaller scale than the RT galavanting around the kronous expanse
I mean, size wise yes but not necessarily scope wise. There could easily be something you discover/investigate on the planet could threaten multiple star systems. Like finding something similar a c'tan shard hidden deep inside the planet could very well happen.

I can't imagine a world in where the stakes for the Imperium in Dark Heresy aren't as high as Rogue Trader. RT's stakes required High Inquisitor to personally intervene and in this game you'll become the Inquisitor so the stakes will be higher.

>>536896747
Two ranks.
You're either an inquisitor or an inquisitor's bitch.
If you're an inquisitor then the more friends you have the weight your words have.
If you're an inquisitor's bitch then the longer you survive the more you're valued.

Eventually inquisitors will kill each other for being too pure or not pure enough and then they'll promote their bitches.

>>536896747
they don't have much of one
there are inquisitors (all peers in theory), all their subordinates are generally "acolytes" with some special ranks like Interrogator
Lord Inquisitor is just a fancy title for aura farming

>>536878306
>>536878578
Based

>>536890904
Surprised they didn't post the cover to Imperium Maledictum as well then

What do we think about the female MC's voice actress in the Expanse?

>>536897619
Owes me sex

Canon btw.

>>536897913
I love how the Inquisition has that much of a fucking gall to put themselves that high.

>>536898135
Literally anyone that isn't a holy lord of terra they can send to a inquisition black site.

>>536898135
>they put themselves that high

Do Earthers, Martians or Belters have the best pussies?

>>536897619
>a nigress
it's over

>>536897913
>The Virgin right side vs the Chad Inquisition

>>536898843
If you're not careful you could snap a Martian or Belter in half.

>>536898847
>nigress
what

>>536895003
there can be if you want there to be

>>536896747
>Acolyte
Inquisitor's bitch, barely above a random civilian or Guardsman who has been conscripted into doing something for the Inquisitor. They do the grunt work like low-level investigation, shakeups, less important raids etc. This is what your Darktide prisoner gets promoted to at the highest ingame rank.
>Interrogator
an Acolyte given more authority, basically officially recognized as a likely future Inquisitor. They can be part of the Inquisitor's personal retinue or they might lead their own retinues of Acolytes, like Interrogator Rannick does in Darktide. They sometimes carry the Inquisitor's Rosette and act directly with his authority.
>Inquisitor
The only actually legally recognized rank.
>Lord Inquisitor
Not an official rank, but typically senior Inquisitors who have earned an enormous amount of experience and respect from their peers. They lead Inquisitorial conclaves and sector/subsector fortresses.

>>536892953
I think she's supposed to be like 17. Maybe she's afraid kissing boys would make her look weak in the eyes of the criminal society she lives in.
>>536894476
She also has some demon metabolism going on. One of the reasons she gives for wearing leather lingerie is that her body temp is way above human baseline.

>>536897619
0. crpgs
1. crpg studio
2. non-crpg made by that crpg studio
3. voice actress of MC of that non-crpg made by that crpg studio
4. twitter bio of voice actress of MC of that non-crpg made by that crpg studio

Just how many degrees of separation can you justify for posting that crap? Do you want to go one step further and post what she had for breakfast?

>>536892953
she's ir*sh

Pre-Order The Expanse

>>536897619
muttfu

>>536900473
3DPD

>>536897913
Imperial politics are actually pretty interesting and like in reality are not this straightforward.
Inquisitors claim their authority directly from the Emperor and view themselves as as the highest active authority but in reality barely have any control over the High Lords, Mechanicus, Astartes, Navigators or Custodes.
Custodes are formally an Adeptus but carry an ancient legal right known as Magisterium Lex Ultima that makes them pretty equivalent to the Inquisition. Imperial religion also makes them so super duper holy that Inquisitor Genocidium Maximus can't rely on fear of the Inquisition overtaking the orgamic religious bliss a crowd would experience upon seeing one.
The Mechanicus was demoted to an Adeptus due to the leadership of the Mechanicum turning against Terra during the Heresy but they are still practically a separate empire that polices itself. Inquisitors can't do much about them, the Fabricator General is the second most powerful High Lord and they have concentrated much more power under a single leader than any other section of the Imperium.
The Master of the Administratum is the most powerful High Lord by far, powerful enough that many of his direct subordinates are also High Lords giving him the majority vote in most situations. They even have their own pet space marine chapter they give all the relics and geneseed they want so they can stomp down on other chapters when necessary.
The Navis Nobilite have an outsized amount of influence despite their "low" station due to having direct control over all military traffic and long distance Warp travel despite being despicable mutants. They are richer than Rogue Traders and usually have a spot at the High Lords.

>>536900824
This is cool and all but your argument is invalid because I have a C'tan shard.

>>536899078
>asian eyes
>skin almost brown
>wavy hair
What type of mystery meat is this?

>>536900374
Isn't she more Scottish in the game?

>>536901113
Amerimutt phenotype

>>536901113
An amerimutt

>>536901267
That's just a different type of irish

>>536897619
>>536899078
>>536900473
>She can't be my twin sister
Fuck you, Owlcat

Areelu had a son.

>>536901892
Only Glasgow really, Edinburgh, Dundee and Aberdeen are more Pictish

That son? Me.
Was it arson no it was my son.

Theodora should have died in act 2 during the dragonus raid.

>>536905132
nah

>Dark Heresy TTRPG includes the option of a Grey Knight character
>Daemonhunters long since ruined by Ward et al
Oh for a time machine to go back to the heady days of 3e

>>536905583
>Daemonhunters
I love the game though

>no amiri
>then no areelu
>then no argenta or femdar sex
>now no straight twincest
owlkek has dropped so many balls they're speaking baritone

I haven't been using Heinrix, but he's pretty cool now I had to wheel him out on Kiava Gamma

>>536911794
I found him to be a nonentity in combat, especially once you have Ulfar

any tips for an archer build in BG(ee)?

>>536912828
No. You pretty much just posted it.

What did he mean by this?

>>536912828
They're overpowered. You'll be fine.
Don't murder people or do overtly evil things because that ruins your ranger oath or something.
Dex is your stat for hitting things.
Con gives you more hp and since you're a warrior the hp gains don't cap out at 16 like other classes.
Strength is nice for equipping compound bows but doesn't do much else.

I don't think spiders are a good racial enemy. You really don't need hit bonuses against them. Better options would be demons or vampires or even dragons since those are the things you need the bonus for.

>50 Navigator Insight for choosing Cassia
Blessed

>>536912828
Elf for 19 Dex , bow and longsword bonuses is another common build.
You usually use the comoposite longbow +1 you can buy or LongBow of Marksmanship.
Latter is probabbly betetr cause most things have low enough HP and +1 THACO> bonus damage

>>536912828
How about you stop being a bitch and use a longsword like a real man?

>>536914795
>Elf for 19 Dex
Never play elf.
Viconia doesn't date elves.

>>536914892
>dating a drow
Dnd equivalent of being a coal burner, DONT DO THAT

>>536914686
do dragons even appear in bg1? Also I know importing into Bg2 lets you change your designated ensmy

>>536911794
He's great and psykers are fun to play as

>>536915026
I have underdark fever

>>536915343
I much prefer my drow obsidian or blueberry to vaguely brown

>>536914753
Bizarre decision by Owlcat which ruins the insight mechanic for the rest of the game. Baffling really. Spend time representing the lore of the setting with a tight risk-reward resource management system only to trash it in one swoop via a simple RP dialogue option.

>>536915507
genuine question what color is this supposed to be

>>536914753
You've actually failed her romance lmao, you don't get the insight if you succeed

>>536900217
>for wearing leather lingerie is that her body temp is way above human baseline
Eat your heart out Kojima

>>536915742
"I don't know what a fucking drow is they don't pay me enough to give a shit" blue

>>536915557
Tbf, by that point the warp doesn't pose any real danger to you anymore (gameplay-wise). It's just tedious.
BTW is Level 36 at the end of Act 2 normal or am I over leveled?

Don't take the 50 insight. It's literally useless after you complete Kiava Gamma and get your forgefiend companion that allows you to skip random warp encounters. Sure there are events that do like 2 damage to the hull but that's a small price to pay for the dozen other events that give free xp for a single click.

Idea for crpg companion: female human that hides a gun between her tits, when starting combat she opens her bra and pulls out the gun then shoots it BANG

I don't actually remember what it was but you don't trigger the ideal flag for Cassia if you take the insight. It's either romance or ending related, I don't recall

>>536915745
I think you're confused, this is about the Insight for the Dargonus ceremony.

>>536915742
Man, that's such a funny expression

>>536916165
I don't remember getting any insight for the Dargonus ceremony, is this something new? You get +2 complacency for all colonies if you pick Cassia, that's the only thing I remember related to Cassia and the ceremony.

>>536915026
You are a homossexual and a dicklet

>>536916837
I literally just did it anon, I got 50 Insight and no other stats

>>536917310
This must be something new they've added since either the first or second DLC, this was not the case before the first DLC.

>>536916837
>is this something new?
yes it all got changed

>>536915834
You act as if there's anything to lose by taking it. The rewards for selecting the other companions are nothingburgers so you may as well pick Cassia and ignore the Insight mechanic for the rest of the game

What happens if you pick idira for the ceremony?

>>536917813
Picking Jae gives a fuck ton of fac rep while picking Pasqal gives you a global boost to the most annoying colony stat to max.

>>536917830
social justice

>>536917830
+2 complacency

>>536917830
I wouldn't know, I executed her ages ago for summoning daemons to the ship

>picking cassia
Sorry but I need half my routes to be red to farm warp encounters for max rep.

>>536918293
I will forever forgive all of Owlcat's future sins for allowing you to liquify the token mentally ill negress so early in the game.

>>536916837
>>536917708
Here is what they are as of Update 1.4.0.199, 5th July 2025:
>Abelard - +1 Efficiency, 1x Weapons, 1x Provisions, 1x Chemicals
>Argenta - +1 Complacency
>Cassia - 50 Navigator Insight.
>Heinrix - +2 Security
>Jae - +15000 rep with Kasballica.
>Kibellah- +2 Security, -1 Complacency
>Pasqual - 1x People, 2x Weapons, 2x Provisions, 2x Chemicals, 1x Plasteel, 1x Promethium.
>Solomorne - +1 Complacency, +1 Security
>Yrliet now gives 30 xenotech.
>Idira is the same +2 Complacency, Security -1

>>536918353
Bro is the worst Rogue Trader in the galaxy, imagine living on a ship that gets fucked by the warp that much

>>536918571
The Insight is the only one of those rewards that is actually useful. The colony management part of the game basically plays itself and the big rep boosts are pointless until your PF rises high enough to get the goodies.

>>536918571
These rewards are so fucking lopsided it's not even funny.

>>536918571
>Cassia and Jae busted for no reason
Is there much use for Xenotech btw?

>>536919240
Not that much, pops up now and then but the resource rewards are genuine garbage considering how easy it is to get. Like seriously, 1?

>>536919240
Cassia's is useless.

Idira and Jae are the new meta. No question.

>Arbites give complacency
Can anyone explain this? Shouldn't it be security and maybe efficiency?

>>536920343
Bro did you even play the game? The Arbites don't secure shit

What's a fun exotic weapon to pick in WotR? I remember trying to use Saber swords or whatever once, and I think I only found a single enchanted one in the entire base game

>>536918571
Damn Abelard's rewards suck. But he's my trusty seneschal..

>>536918571
So always just pick Jae and pasqual?

Cassia doesn't sound like a name that fits a futuristic setting though I admit I know nothing about 40k

>>536921259
Nah it fits. 40k isn't real sci-fi, its like medieval fantasy in space

>>536921259
40k isn't 'futuristic.' It's Roman Catholic space fantasy

>>536921259
>Cassia doesn't sound like a name that fits a futuristic setting
40K human names are mostly latin based, so Cassia (a greek plant) fits just fine.

>>536917830
I don't remember. I think I picked abelard and idira on my first playhthrough

>>536921002
if you have the DLC sawtooth sabres are stocked in the shops throughout the game without you needing to hunt them down in the world

>enemies who can be defeated without a scratch in TB mode wipe the party in RTWP
Are there two different games running in parallel here? WotRfags, help me understand.

my RT name? Cassius Maximus

>>536918921
How many loading screens does RT have compared to crusade management in WOTR?

>>536922328
I called him James in honor of GW

>>536922328
VVV_Avgvstvs svl invictvs_VVV

>>536922038
Yes, there is the actual game which is RTWP, and then there is the turn-based mode that is tacked onto it as an afterthought (and that also trivializes the game).

Rubbish. WotR is obviously a turn based rpg.

trying out NWN1 for the first time, I wanted to do a dwarven weapon master/defender who specializes in the Dwarven Waraxe, starting with Shadows of Undrentide because I hear the wailing death is dogshit. I went into the smithy in the starting village to buy some waraxes and she doesn't have any in stock, and when I checked online to see where I could get an early one I learned they were added in the Hordes of the Underdark, does that mean there are no dwarven waraxes at all in Shadows? if so I might need to remake my character, both my starting feats as fighter went into exotic weapon proficiency and weapon focus for the waraxes, which is really strange I can even do that if the weapons aren't present in this campaign at all

Haughty high elf? Sex!
Whimsical wood elf? Sex!
Debauched drow? Sex!

>[Blush]
>[Giggle]
>[Wiggle butt]
Yeah, it's time for some trve R P G

>>536923251
I would never cuck my bro khalid like that

If forced, which would you rather have in your party?
>Dwarf
>Halfling
>Gnome

>>536924162
dwarf but female

>>536924162
Dwarf most likely. I can't really think of any Hling or gnome companions that I ever liked. It'd be cool to see a gnome companion that's one big reference to the little man from Twin Peaks.

>>536818824
>Which means none of them are and almost nothing can be referenced from the previous game in a way that isn't the most vague bullshit
And thats a problem because? If the sequel doesnt follow the exact same MC then why should it be super specific about the events of the previous game?

>>536923247
What's the matter anon? Too much freedom for you? You rolled a character who is proficient and skilled with dwarven waraxes, who is going to go on an adventure in Neverwinter. Nobody promised that the world was going to rain magic dwarven waraxes during his adventure! Is he really going to give up just because he is only skilled with this special weapon that he doesn't have? Is that all it takes for evil to triumph, for good men to surrender their agency, for democracy to fail?
My Kingmaker playthrough I made a paladin/aldori swordlord starting with coordinated maneuvers and coordinated defense, and not once did I realise I was supposed to use the dueling sword without a shield nor that NONE of the swordlords traits would transfer to other weapons. I maybe retarded but at least I'm not a little pussy BITCH like you.

Real Time with Pause, more like Buff Galore and press X

>>536924162
Romancable female gnome wizard.

>>536924162
Is that even a question?

>>536924162
red-headed dwarf girl

>>536924162
Gnomes work best for comedic relief, just not the way Owlkek does them.

>>536924694
if rerolling to use battle axes in shadows makes me a pussy bitch in your eyes that's fine with me, though that doesn't mean too much considering you behave like an autistic drama kid

>>536924162
Dwarf, a fantasy party without a dwarf just feels incomplete.

>>536925825
shes awful in the game

>>536925825
But he isn't wrong?
Veilguard being shit doesn't negate that. Every dragon age game had a dwarf companion.

>>536925825
>Post only barely passable Failguard character
Indian detective lass was second. Don't understand what people see in the harry potter necromancer dude

>>536925954
>Every dragon age game had a dwarf companion.
consistently bottom 3 btw

>essential/OP
Cassia, Kibellah, Argenta
>good
Pasqal, Ulfar
>underwhelming
Abelard, Heinrix
>ignore/never take
Jae, Solomorne
>kill at earliest opportunity
Idira, Yrliet, Marazhai

with Psyker Officer RT

I want to have a female rpg companion gf so bad bros... imagine having a gf that matters

>>536925825
I'll admit, giving her wooden boots is funny design

This image is the greatest thing to come out of /crpgg/, nothing comes close, bar maybe the yrliet chatbot screencap

>check out this screencap of that one time I farmed some (you)s
narcissistic behavior

Why would you care so much about navigator insights? Other than like a total of 20 or so to create a few routes between your colonies, footfall and a few systems why do you need them? I always spammed red routes to farm the ship combat for free XP and cargo (reputation). There's never any reason to make non-common paths less dangerous.

Can't wait for corsair Larry x femcel inquisitor

>schizo rambling
very cool anin

>>536926404
Because the constant plaguebearer battles on the maintenance decks become tiresome quickly

>>536926646
Why is the ship so stinky

It feels unrealistic that argenta never calls idira a slur atleast once.

>>536924694
That swordlord? We have purposely trained him wrong, as a joke.

>>536926646
The fights were always super quick and they're not that common

>>536926820
she calls her a witch multiple times though

>>536926820
Does witch not count

Favourite RT homeworld/origin/archetype? Thinking about a full heretic playthrough.

>>536926976
Red and orange routes result in a battle most of the time. You don't need to farm reputation since everything is gated behind profit factor anyway and you don't need to farm party XP because the game isn't difficult enough.

>>536925825
Not going to lie despite how garbage of a game this was they have Harding such a fat ass that I was wondering if this was a still a Bioware game.

>>536925825
>everyone hates Sera as a companion except annoying tumblertards and yuri shippers
>make every companion like her in DA:V
what were they thinking?

>>536878884
Sex would help, like waking up in bed with her after every second meditation
But what would really fix her is having topics of conversation besides stupid old Crudarach

>>536927975
Literally nobody in Veilguard is anything like Sera. Sera was abrasive and bigoted and actively worked to piss off other companions.

>>536926820
Heretic and witch are the most severe slurs Argenta knows.

>>536930107
And you could tell her to get out or become a target.
While in Veilguard you have to do the Get Along Dance when your team has childish squabbles

>>536927428
>Red and orange routes result in a battle most of the time.
I meant that you're not warp jumping that often. Red is a guaranteed battle (unless you pay with cargo) while Orange is chance based. Orange paths are actually worse than Red because they sometimes require you to give up cargo or take unavoidable ship damage while Red has no downsides if you pick the fight.
>You don't need to farm reputation since everything is gated behind profit factor
Profit factor was always a non-issue - outside the very early part of act 2 - while reputation was the limiting factor. I struggled to max out all the factions while playing, it's very doable but you have to use your resources in a smart way and choose the correct colony projects and events
>you don't need to farm party XP because the game isn't difficult enough.
This part is true but 1-3 min combat every red jump was not a big deal for a nice XP boost.

>>536930107
Trash is. Young, dumb and a asshole always

>>536931172
Red is actually not guaranteed battle. It's near guaranteed event , and higher probability of said event being combat.

>>536921986
Yea but the unique enchanted ones are what makes it actually worth it
I think KM had a super duper strong falcata but that's about as much as I can remember