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>Previous thread
>>543154208

Can we move to this one and have the jannies delete the other one because of the OP pic please

I'll do it. I'll make a game. You'll see.

Ignore the shitcord thread. Real thread:
>>543252263
>>543252263
>>543252263

How do we explain cuffbust flopping with over 200 000 wishlists?

>>543252167 (OP)
its crazy that the lolifag is the only decent 3d modeller willing to collab
is there really no one else

>>543252428
He forgot the "make a good game" part.
It's like looking at the Beatles and thinking "Success is 4 guys in bowlcuts"

>>543252428
He didn't play to his strengths. He's a horror artist, atmospheric shit. Go make a funky walking sim Gavin.

For me? It's the Defold Engine.

>>543252697
i dont think choochoo charles would do well today, nor does it feel like a sequel friendly IP
i guess he could make new trains

I hate how much of a tangent AI can go on if you tell it something didn't work.

>>543252167 (OP)
i love it when gambleslop flops on a weekly basis, literally check steam new releases its all vampire survivors or balatro clones
how can you live with yourself making garbage AND losing

>>543252903
His dev trajectory is a bit sad. Look at all his games he made. He was onto something before choochoo. He wouldn't be a millionaire but maybe would have some neat games sustaining him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXUScrtPaV4

Enginedevs, how do we respond without sounding mad?

>>543252761
But you dont even have a game

>>543253000
Are you using plan mode? Yes use it even for debugging, if you're using claude the thinking limits are extremely low in edit mode, you can tweak them via settings.json.

I kind of want to make a GTA-type game that's hyper focused on emergent gameplay and situations. If you've ever seen a streamer speedrun GTA games and all the crazy stuff happening to them or the AI doing crazy things, I'd kinda want to somehow make where that happens more often and with more intent. But I don't know how to code and I kind of don't want to commit to any project anymore after my games flopping so I don't know what to do with it.

>>543253298
VS is not gambleslop, it's grindslop.
A genre where your skill doesn't matter, only how many hours you put into the game to unlock the meta currency/unlock good items to fix the rng of your runs.

>>543253340
he has not released anything with it so i dont care about the youtuber babble
i dont get why he doesnt use raylib

>>543252428
Mixed reviews are the kiss of death for indies. Nothing kills a game harder. It's like a beacon that deflects steamies.

>>543253432
like half of those are already graduated lmao

>>543253309
>His dev trajectory is a bit sad.
This, you would think that being successful would allow him to make more experimental cool shit instead of chasing a foty genre.

>>543253669
>Nothing kills a game harder.
Having low review counts kills harder.

>>543253309
nothing sad about his situation. he's set for life.

>>543253309
He doesn't like dev, he likes when people say he's smart.

>>543253459
I think trying to simulate a big world with a lot of emergent systems as someone who doesn't know how to code is a very bad idea. It's like the exact opposite of an idea I'd suggest to a non-programmer.

>>543253459
>But I don't know how to code
Just write a comic about your idea

>>543253937
>I think trying to simulate a big world with a lot of emergent systems as someone who doesn't know how to code is a very bad idea.
That's definitely one reason why I don't want to commit to it. Not the primary one but this is something I do understand.

stay positive bros

I realized the reason why I fail is because I lack a sense of urgency.

>>543253841
He talked about how he misses being creative/artistic. This detour cost him years of his life he can't get back. And now he's probably feeling like shit. His persona online is pretty important to him. What good is his YouTube channel now? He didn't have to run that, he was already set for life...

>>543252428
He missed the boat by about a year.
Meme games are dead now.
Bennet Foddy cant' even make lunch money anymore.

>>543254280
his situation may be sad compared to pre-cuffbust but he's free from having to work for a living his entire life so his dev trajectory is still amazing and better than any of ours is going to be.

>>543254475
People who made trillions a few years ago are now struggling to even make it past 1k reviews and retards in this general still try to convince me that there's no problem with the market and Valve isn't at fault at all.

>>543254475
Grim, i'm glad my target demo is niche.

>>543254603
I don't think valve is as fault but I do think the market is (always) changing. Someone gets popular -> 10000 people rip it off -> people get sick of it and go to a new popular thing.

>>543254475
Sorry dude, you need to make enough for valve to buy another boyslave for gabe to consider you a "real" game.

>>543254480
It one sense yes. I was thinking of the other sense, his actual games, the progression of ideas etc.

>>543254603
Valve's only fault is letting so many games on Steam.
but if they didn't, your game wouldn't get on Steam either.

>>543253556
yeah you can have a near 100% win rate in VS if you know what you're doing, the main appeal was 100%ing the game, completing achievements, unlocking all the perks, items, maps, characters, etc
the RNG aspect only really matters for the first few hours, after that point, the focus of the game shifts to grinding out a checklist of tasks
hyperstimulating grindslop might be the meta soon

I feel Thomas sweating from here...

>>543254280
what sucks is I was finally starting to listen to his advice about making a game memeable and viral, and now its back to the drawing board.

>>543254916
224 reviews, 62% rating, mormon murder suicide

You FUCKING BITCH!!! I'M GONNA KILL YOU FUCKING BITCH!!

Cuffbust was an expensive project, requiring external studios and a ton of contractors. He must have spent at least 500k from his Choo-Choo Charles money

>>543254916
Gamers hate koalas. Cuffbust and now twisted tower. It's over.

>>543255019
I'd never play memeable and viral games.
Euro Truck Simulator is the perfect game and every game should be just like that.

>>543254916
>only has 100k wishlists

....

>>543254851
>but if they didn't, your game wouldn't get on Steam either.
Projecting loser.

>>543255064
Why? I don't want to die.

>>543253434
I use gemini not claude

>>543252428
the game wasn't even finished
he overpriced it and assumed players would add the content themselves with the level creator tool
it was also boring after 10 minutes because other players couldn't play as the cops
the entire game was basically a 20 minute walking simulator where you bunnyhop away from slow enemy NPCs, pick up keys to locks, and escape
it was simply an incomplete game
i understand that he was probably severely burnt out from years of super hard work, but if he spent another year or two finishing up the game while taking feedback from playtesters, the game would've been a hit
he just wanted to dump the game on steam and get it over with
hopefully he gets back to working on games he's passionate about, he deserves it
no more slop, gavin!

>>543255085
I think this is one of the largest reasons he flopped. Some major cargo cult stuff going on when he decided to launch with a level editor.
You add that later on in the game as a "huge free update" because that kind of stuff extends the life for people who enjoy it. Even games built around level editors like LBP and mario maker give the player a campaign first. He obviously thought they'd be happy to just do the work for the dev, which is naive.

>>543255149
can we stop valueing wishlists that much when it has been proven that steam doesnt even show you games you wishlisted on release and if you have a shitty release day the algorithm buries you?

>Choo-Choo Charles
>Average playtime: 3.6h
average playtime theory debunked forever

>>543255132
>Euro Truck Simulator is the perfect game
what's your favorite part about it? the inherent immersion of playing as a truck driver? or the sense of progression from completing jobs and advancing your career?
genuine question, i'm considering playing a train simulator game i've had my eyes on for a while but i'm still not sold on the transport sim genre
also try out powerwash simulator if you can, it's very good

The real metric you should look at is how much fanart you are getting.

>>543252428
game bad

>>543255648
>laughs in CPI and CTR

you guys are all retarded, the real reason has nothing to do about quality of cuffbust its just that normaltroons are busy with megabonk
if megabonk didnt exist cuffbust would be 100x more successful

>>543255580
My favorite part about it is the mundaneness of it. you drive, you deliver, you get money, no surprises ever, no competition, just follow the line and do your job.
I miss having a proper job.

>>543255916
Crash team racing?

>play game
>think "damn i did a good job"
Based, since you don't know game it is, you can't tell me I'm wrong either lol. If you do, it's some strange cosmic jealousy that I'm enjoying myself and you're not. Crabbies, get in the crab pot, ya'll have been boiled.

>>543255926
If cuffbust was good megabonk would get megadropped.

gee billy your mom lets you have FOUR threads?

>>543255939
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3815990/Spreadsheets_and_Nothing_More/
this might scratch an itch

>>543253309
>boohoo muh pore e-eceleb
i hope that scumbag piece of shit gets cancer and dies

>>543256170
Cosmic.. it's cosmic comstruct

>>543256390
>Totalbiscuit moment

>>543256064
cost per install and click through rate
two common metrics mobile game companies use to make sure their games are profitable
how much did you spend on ads, what percentage of people clicked on them, how much did each installation cost
if your game reliably has a 1% whale rate (people who spend $10,000+ a year) then you can just compare the CPI to your revenue (minus your operation costs) and confirm if you're profitable or not
CTR is just to optimize your advertisements so you spend less per install
mobiledev is a different world

>>543256242
Doesn't have the truck driving atmosphere but I'll try it out, thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT2BSd2DUUI

>>543256683
have a good sunday, friend

when i release my game and agdg starts spamming it here with how and why should i reveal myself or

>>543256921
Don't reveal yourself here. it's a blue board

>>543256921
i'll post my game here when its done
/agdg/ are my good frens and i know deep down they want me to succeed and will leave a positive review

>>543257156
'ick on 'gdg

>>543257156
>>543257341
if i do a keydrop after it becomes a best selling title it'll reset the spawnrate for another schizo like the eric schizo saying it's not him etc

I only want to start working on my game right before i go to sleep.
And then i tell myself ill work on it when i wake up.
And then i wake up and i forget to do it and go spend my day doing something else.
And then night arrives and i suddently want to work on my game but im too sleepy and i say to myself ill go sleep and work on it when i wake up.
My game is like... 3% done after months of developing it because of this

>>543255939
I prefer Snowrunner because I do not want peace. I want problems always!

Also why I installed archlinux instead of upgrading to windows 11

>>543257341
you will be doxxed pedo and we hate you, go back to your nortushart thread

>>543257581
I act like this

>>543255085
>pay people to make map editor for you
>dont pay people to make maps with it or at least leverage fanbase to make them before the launch

>>543257581
Maybe flip your sleep schedule so you're awake during the night and slepe during the day?
Probably something about daylight that makes you want to do other shit then sit on the computer all day.

>>543257658
your impotent whining wont achieve anything, my game WILL be a success

>>543257716
lol
lmao even

How do I playtest a game where the intended difficulty is too hard for me, the developer, to beat?

>>543257703
Warcraft 3 didnt need to pay people to make maps for it.

>>543257975
...warcraft 3 launched without content?

>>543257975
Warcraft 3, not including the expansions, shipped with dozens of hours of animated and voice acted campaigns.

>>543252428
I think making the guards NPCs and removing the emergent gameplay aspects of that social component was major mistake. Back when I played jailbreak maps in CSS (the main inspiration for the game I would imagine) homosexual interactions between the prisoners and guards were one of if not THE major reason to play the mode. I distinctly remember being released from my cell after a botched coup which I started in a previous round and having to suck one of the admins off in front of the other inmates. Does cuffbust have any of that?

>>543255939
I'm making a similar ish game where you make some paninis and salads because I miss that shit too. So comfy. So much downtime to write notes and draw. Might even add a notebook to my game for no purpose other than to doodle

why are people STILL talking about cufflop?

>>543257975
Yes they did, it had loads of maps on release.

I dont want to balance my rpg.
Are there balancing ai tools to balance the numbers to make fights challanging but fair?
Or can AI only do music and art.

>>543254916
He's absolutely shitting himself right now. The wishlist cope is no longer enough.

>>543257581
>have ideas at night
>no pressure to work on anythin cause it's eepy time :)
>ideas during the day
>oh nGoD oh MyfUCK.HUT what do I work.on? First?m and what if it'd takes tk loong and IDK where to start and do Jnmake a demo first or assets or code?m? Or ask agdg for help?msmsi oh no I spent soooo inch time on YouTube e I need to mbe productive o no I gave jo motibatio oh FUCK HOW DO I even EVER FUCKIN make any progress•At ALL LIKE THI

>>543258809
4 TIMES THE PROGRESS

I think I'm just going to make a stealth horror game, I keep trying to make stuff that's too complicated for my first game. I want it to have the light and sound elements of Thief but with only a fraction of the tools and it be more oriented around horror. Maybe set in the modern day with a cryptid or something

>>543254916
Make a boomer shooter they said...
It'll go great they said...

>>543258681
no. do the work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-9oXiytsk

>>543254916
im getting an aislop vibe from this art

>>543258470
What else can they talk about? /agdg/ flops? Genokids also has something like 100k wishlists and was in development for over 8 years.

>>543258928
>Light and sound elements of Thief
That's good.

>Fraction of the tools.
That's bad.

>Oriented around horror.
That's good.

>Set in modern day
That's bad.

All you have to do is copy Thief (medieval settings, mechanics and all) and give it a bit of a gothic horror vibe. Thief with some Bloodborne aesthetics. You'll be my fucking hero.

>>543258982
DLCs get waaay fewer reviews per player

I'll ruin the atmosphere here by releasing my game

>>543259154
If it was AI it would look more consistent. There are 3 different visual styles in that one image.

>>543259375
yes its obviously not fully ai generated, but i get the feeling theres 2-3 aislop images merged together here manually, and inpainting for the face

I'm going to use AI to generate ascii art for my game!

>>543257605
>I prefer Snowrunner
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4067370/Prospice/
Apparenlty we can just make Snowrunner-like games now. What assets did they use? I doubt they rolled it all themselves.

Everybody thinks that 2022 is the major turning point for everything with the advent of AI and it ruining everything, but it really is 2020.
The lockdowns were the big reason for such rapid decay of everything, including game development.
Mental illness among everyone spiked massively. Even without AI, things would be the same today. Every time someone says "X game would do better in 2019/Y game from 2019 would do worse today", they are correct. We all lived through the most unprecedented, and most massive societal shift in the entire human history and are just slowly begging to see the consequences of it.

>>543259636
and to think the whole thing was a scam the whole time

Things are shittier now because people get into art,game development etc. not because they are passionate about game development but because they want to be famous/easy cash from home.

>>543260032
Can we kill this guy? His IQ is lower than a fish and nothing he says has any meaning. I'm tired of reading his worthless posts.

>>543258982
Damn, I didn't know this was out

>>543260032
That has always been the case. Imagine the discourse between classical musicians if we had internet back when jazz, rock, and pop started taking off.

>>543260181
classical musicians are far more famous than most of that modern trash

>>543260032
As a player I think it's better than ever desu. Tons of games coming out and if you do even a bit of digging you can find something appealing to you.
It's only really for gamedevs that shit sucks.

>>543260262
They're famous because of propaganda, mostly during the pre-WW2 era. It's a status symbol, and low IQ women love nothing more than the notion of status. If you look at the statistics of what music people actually listen to and pay money for, classical isn't even a tiny fraction of modern music.

>>543259242
That would be my dream game to make, I tried recently but I'm just not a good enough programmer and level designer to make it what I want it to be yet. So I was thinking of making a watered down version as practice

i feel like i cannot be successful because i dont understand why banquet for fools flopped with normaltroons while: balatro, megabonk, digging a hole, vampire survivors, fear and hunger, etc didnt
i literally am unable to think of a game like that, i just cant

>>543260769
You're right. Give up.

>>543260684
nonsense
people like beethoven, mozart, bach, vivaldi, tchaikovsky, chopin are household names
its exceedingly rare for that to happen with more modern genres, maybe shit like the beatles or michael jackson

>>543260769
It's weird to me you group in Fear and Hunger with the rest of those games.
Fear and Hunger was a massive flop for most of its life. It got popular after like 5 years because of internet essayists.
It's not at all in the same boat as Megabonk.

>>543260393
Eventually this situation will reach critical mass and devs will start quitting en masse leaving you with nothing. Then the real fun will begin for you.
>inb4 old games
You're kidding yourself. You're not gonna play the same 5 games for the rest of your life no matter how hard you'll posture otherwise.

>>543261120
Maybe. I think there is always going to be game development and new games. Whether they're making weird shit I enjoy is something else I suppose.

Full shrimp posture kek, time to tuck in bed.

I lost any desire to make games, chuds.
It's over.

I want to do something diferent like hentai light novels.

I'm fascinated by the slot machine genre to be so popular in this era of gaming, I wonder how will this evolve over time.

>>543261409
The only games my friends play these games have really obvious gambling elements. Blows my mind.

Cris, your problem is you never had desire.

>>543259636
>Mental illness among everyone spiked massively.
I don't know what you're talking about. My life during lockdowns was about the same. I ran a bit more errands for older relatives and that's it.

>>543260972
They are household names as status symbols because of propaganda. People don't know 99% of their music. They're only vaguely aware of a small selection of their "hit" pieces. I bet you if I payed a random classical piece, you'd have no clue who it's from. Meanwhile, I could go to any random mall, play a random pop song, and a significant number of random passersby would be able to name the artist. You are absolutely delusional. Seek help.

>>543261495
microtransaction and gambling-like mechanics have been in videogames for a while but it's really funny how they are so in your face right now.

>>543261570
in 10 years from now that random pop song will be forgotten and those "status symbols" will still be remembered as geniuses

>>543261495
>>543261693
Jonathan Blow predicted all this.

>>543261561
Imagine being this low IQ.

>>543261737
Any 10, 20, 30, 40, etc. year old pop song at a mall would be the same. You're obsessed with status and not the quality of the art.

>>543262037
you are low IQ and brown

>>543252428
He should have done a public playtest or been in a next fest earlier this year.
That would have told him that he needed more than 10 minutes of content. Because if he did a demo, it would have been the full game.

>>543262101
you are jobless (get a job)

>>543262101
You are a woman.

If you're serious about being a game developer, you should only care about making a good game. If microtransactions and gambling mechanics make the game better, you should be embracing them rather than complaining about them just because you personally dislike them. Let go of your massive ego and focus on what actually makes a good game, not what boosts your ego.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LkcV2F9mRM
bros...

>>543262565
this is literally AI isn't it

>>543262565
that might as well be a movie fucking hell
but at least the reflections on the mud are 4k textures!! whooo I'm having fun! input input dopamine dopamine dopamine!

This game feels like 3 or 4 games stitched together without any soul of it's own.
It takes way way too much from other games and too blatantly.

where are YOUR games?

>>543262565
oh my god

>>543263228
what games

>Game has most of the core features but basically no polishing so it's in no state where I could really advertise it
>It is actually playable and I sometimes play it for fun right but I have to do a lot of overhauls still
>Originally planned to be done by end of this year
>See successful indie games
>YEARS before release the games already looked more finished than mine does now

It feels like the main cope between me and killing myself is that Hotline Miami was developed in under a year.

>>543263394
Prince of Persia and Mirror's Edge.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3833800/Crafters_Hollow/

read his AI disclosure shit, is he right?

>>543262783
I think it is. The dev apparently is connected to some AI company.

>>543263480
Those games tend to not do well at release. Their systems are either overly simple and therefore uninteresting when people actually play the game, or they'll be stuck in devhell trying to go back and lay down a foundation after building parts of a house on top already.

>>543263649
no, ai gen music is awful and unusable

>>543263228
>>543263394
you don't need a hook

>>543263480
You need to get nice visuals going even in a small part of the game so you can show it off. gamers don't like sharing programmer graphics games.
>>543263228
The gameplay sucks, all it has going for it are visuals. It's a setpiece the slack jawed normie buys to gawk at how good it looks, beats, gives it a 7 and makes the dev rich.

>>543263957
the anime-esque girl and the big trucks are the hook

>>543263301
In demo day

Okay, I took mine down, but only because I'm redoing everything in response to the demo day play test feedback. I'll be back in the next demo day.

Am I the only one who likes this visual style?
The slightly blurry textures, simple geometry, etc.
Feels like indie devs either go full asset flip or PSX with no inbetween...

>>543263228
i hated this game, it's not fun at all, the movement and combat sucks ass

>>543264697
That style is called handpainted and is very expensive in terms of time and effort required to make it look nice. The lower resolution is a result of a technical limitation of the era. It requires just as much effort on the part of the artist to paint a texture on a 128px canvas as it does a 2k canvas.

No one cares what style you like because you don't make games. Start with Pong, retard.

>>543260769
>balatro, megabonk, vampire survivors
Gambling
>Fear and hunger
Intresting characters and atmosphere
>Banquet for fools
Game aimed at the Morrowind fanbase that doesnt play any games besides Morrowind trying to use stuff like "we dont have quest markers over here!" as a selling point with a cast of personalityless faceless randomly generated "companions".
Morrowind fans do not play games they will not play your game even if you listen to them about everything they want from a game and make the game just like that.

>>543264753
Makes sense. They're not getting many wishlist additions as compared to other less popular Nextfest entries.

>>543264697
I like it but it might just be nostalgia on my part

>>543265361
oh really? that's interesting
i guess being in the top demo charts is not a guarantee for wishlists either
i'm sure they are getting plenty enough tho

>>543265164
>handpainted
>clearly photobashed

Right...

sloplike

sloplike collectathon

grimace emoji

>>543262565
the narration is very annoying

hookslop

>>543263228
Trans rights

>>543265586
Yeah let me just cut off and bandage my bloody arm so I can take make a phototexture out of it.

>>543266020
That's where the bashing comes in retard.

>>543265795
He's very old, you have to understand that his mind is still placed in the 60s, when all media imitated western movies.

>>543265586
>clearly photobashed
What the fuck are you talking about mongrel, that's obvious photoshop burn/dodge sloppa. There's hardly even any "texture" except on that gun and it's probably noise.

>>543266487
>take photo
>shrink it down to 128x128
>now it looks like ps2 texture

>3 fucking thread

Well, one portrait done

>>543267212
You're a retarded zoomer, that's not how most textures were done back then and most detail and color variation offered by a photo was crushed out anyway. Not to mention how insufficient it is for any game that has fantastical elements.
Just stop posting.

>>543267637
broski is it time to start different angles besides the exact same 3/4 look? you're risking becoming the french cris of mspaint drawings (but you actually publish games tbf)

>>543267637
>done
zoom in on that chin/neck and tell me the colouring looks done anon. the fuck?

>>543265795
>>543266191

>>543267687
That is exactly how most textures were done.

>>543267637
I don't understand. You even started this one with red guidelines, and yet somehow still managed to cave in the right side of his face.

>>543268235
Yup. In the Half Life documentary they will tell about their artists trips to eastern europe and taking photos of train stations

>>543268235
Go look at that screenshot again and tell me those environment textures were photosourced. And of course you're dodging the character models themselves while cherrypicking.

>>543268598
>eastern europe
Are you talking about HL2 retard? That's an entirely different era of 3d graphics. And yes games like HL2 and Max Payne were photosourced extensively giving them a look that was distinctive for the time.

>>543268127
This twink is so fucking lazy he posts unfinished shit one hundred times for each brushstroke and then declares it a masterpiece when it looks absolutely shite.
If anyone replies with anything but praise, the faggot enters full denial and bicker mode and insists his art is perfect, he never wanted feedback just to enlighten you.
Worst dev on here actually makes you miss Nortubel.

>>543268798
Nintendo used photos on all their n64 games too.
But keep crying about it.

>>543268840
at least she posts progress

>want to add minotaur enemies
>realize that some people will draw art of her getting raped by minotaurs

>>543268840
What happened to Nortubel?
I havent been in adgd in a while.

>>543268628
I did and they look photosourced to me. Especially the tile on the ground and the wood seats.

>>543269016
He is in juvenile Portuguese Prison

>>543269136
What?
Fr?
What he do to get put in prison?
Did he have cp on his pc or smth?

>>543268968
Progress posting in thread is retarded, if you want real feedback you post in the 'cord.
He gets plenty of feedback there but he is so gay and neurotic that he needs to put it here for additional validation on every step of every single asset he makes.
>Heres three lines on a white page, it's a background not done yet
>He's a fourth line, good huh?
>Fifth line, I made the fourth line one micrometer thicker because an anon called me a gay idiot
>Sixth line, no it's fine its actually perfect art I made Galuden btw

>>543269016
She got into onlyfans, her name is hime_tsu

>>543269354
he got too close with his niece

>>543269486
and that's a problem because...?

>>543268982
kanna...

>>543267983
They are dialogue portraits. So they pose is more or less always the same orientation.
>>543268296
What do you mean?

>>543269593
imagine we all did that for every word in code or brush stroke
if it doesn't work at scale it shouldn't work for an individual
but it does and honestly that's just how life is, some people feel entitled to (and some end up getting) extra attention for, everything
conversely, everyone knows they're a bit too needy and that it's unnatural
so it can go either way, either you pity them for their neediness, or you hate/feel jealous that they get more attention for wip_draft_43 than another person's entire new mechanic

>>543265795
>>543266191
>Gamers will buy whatever I make at this point, why don't just take advantage on that?

>>543269884
>imagine we all did that for every word in code or brush stroke
God I wish, then the thread would be on topic.

>>543268235
It sucks finding things like that out. I was quite disappointed when I found out Yamaoka used sample CDs for the SH soundtracks and he wasn't some super genius sound designer.

>>543270014
There is a reason why games lose some of their luster when you understand how the sausage is made

>>543270014
It's weird to me that the era of Substance Designer textures came and went and we're back to photosourcing. I guess SD is just too much work for not a lot of payoff compared to photoscanning.

Is it possible to recreate Cris's success and become a meme because of how BAD my games are instead of how good they are?

>>543268956
Who did they photograph to get this guy?

>>543267637
Why did you pick the wrong thread retard?

>>543270467
its clearly a blurry rock texture recolored to blue, dullard

>>543270014
Did you really look at Mario64 and were dazzled by its wall textures until you discovered the grim truth?

>>543270467
>took a photo of a rock and painted them eyes on it
>that means the entire game was carefully crafted handpainted textures

nice try

>>543270636
To be honest Mario 64 always looked kind of shitty. It looks like a Maya test scene to show off all the cool primitives you could make.
It's not until Ocarina of Time that I think they mastered 3d on the n64.

>>543262007
>you didn't suffer because you couldn't sit in a cafe like a faggot, y-you must be low IQ

Abandoned game idea you can steal

https://x.com/a327ex/status/1599760892115136517

>>543269016
A bunch of things happened.
>Screen died, got a different one whose lighting is a bit annoying (Once again, making art where I rely on picking colors from previous shit).
>Got sick, probably got it from a train ride
>Had yet another "OC making" phase but I'm making so much art of it, that I could make it the real final phase and update that Nortubel gallery once and for all
>Also updating files for games I'd wanna make after Hirdrih
>And IRL stuff that I have to work on

>>543269846
Is this the intended perspective? If so, right eye needs to be shifted up slightly, and the curve of the chin needs to bend more towards his left. Also straighten out the mouth because it looks like a bent smirk, and I don't think that's the intent. You should maybe try posing a 3d mannequin and drawing over that instead or something idk. You're still just really terrible at placement of facial features. Idk how you can zoom out, look at your work, and not see that there are problems with it.

>>543271097
I want to make a Zelda game...

>>543271180
people generally were more depressed because they were used to socialising way more than the average 4channer, for whom life didn't change muh at all
now drop it you two!!

>>543270636
It's more of a general sense of disillusionment caused by peeking behind the curtain. It robs videogames of their mystery once you realize they're 90% smoke and mirrors.

>>543271097
The very idea of polygons that were actually textured was cutting edge shit back then but by the end of that generation standards had risen to the point where everyone had to actually have coherent textures instead of abstract photoslop

>>543254916
i just tried this demo,
this game is so fucking boring

>>543271398
>childhood: hey look at those cool bricks stretching far into the hole that's kind of interesting and weird like the world is extending forever into it
>reality: they used the planar UV tool and didn't bother to fix the surfaces perpendicular to the UV plane

:(

>>543271398
>once you realize they're 90% smoke and mirrors
for me discovering those tricks was the most appealing part

>>543272140
I think the first 10 minutes were pretty good but once you get to the shooting galleries you recognize it's really shallow. The combat it's good enough for Thomas to be leaning into it so hard. I unironically think Father looked better and he made a big mistake trying to go hi-fi.

>>543271323
Despite its stronger hardware there isn't a single N64 game that looks good
Meanwhile PSX just casually churned out ART

Lately i have been realizing i dont actually want to make games i just want to make the story and the assets.
I have been thinking if i should just give up on making a game and just make a animated show set in the universe of what was going to be my game.
But im not sure.
I feel conflicted.

>>543271398
>>543272321
The coolest part is when you realize something ISN'T smoke and mirrors.
Like the first time I bugged out of the map in Halo 3 and realized that the world really does extend miles into the distance.

>>543272531
Thomas Brush?

>>543272530
Stronger hardware but WAY less memory (64mb vs 700mb) meant that the textures were lower resolution and more highly compressed. An n64 that used CD roms would've been Dreamcast tier in terms of visual potential.
I do think whether you like n64 vs ps1 more just comes down to whether you like smooth textures vs crunchy though.

>>543272531
You still suck at everything though.

>>543271398
>>543272321
I feel like one of these mindsets is actually conducive to gamedev and the other one is the opposite

>>543272531
>>543272698
>Thomas talking about churning out movie games every 6 months
>Thinks its going to be way easier than making a basic bitch FPS

I just can't even

>>543272816
At least unlike gamedev ill have fun doing it.

AI survivors are the future of gaming. Choose 3 slop that never ends.

>>543272820
Anyone who still managed to fell "mystery" in video games past their preteen years doesn't have the IQ necessary to succeed in gamedev.

Happy Sunday /agdg/, today I'm chasing down a buck in my combat system that I wasn't able to fix last night. Fixing bugs can be tedious, but it feels great when you realized you've fixed them. It's also a reminder to myself that I need to revisit my code to make it more reliable. How is your day going?

>>543272531
That's why most people collaborate instead of chasing the solodev nightmare
That being said if you made a good machinima series with APPEAL I bet it would get some following. Hell, just slap a button prompt and text boxes onto it and you'd have a premium VN.

>>543271217
>ninjafuit with emojis but you have three upgrades to choose

>>543273034
You'll be having fun in the same way that toddlers have fun doodling, except you're a grown ass 40 year old man.

6 7

>>543273305
>pic
Lost hard.

>>543273569
How many projects have you failed at anon?

>>543273608
You can't fail if you never try.

get this
>megabonk, but good

gamedevs should be held criminally responsible for allowing attractive characters not to have romance options.

Megabonk + Dark Souls

>>543272698
>>543272974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-Vv2c9WNXI

i thought people being obsessed with ecelebs and posting about them even tho it has nothing to do with amateur gamedev (thomas brush has a game studio and is a pro dev btw) was just an agdg thing but its actually a global mental illness, crazy huh?

Microtap

>That 3 billion sales game? Trash actually
>My 0 sales game is the actual peak of gaming but those tasteless customers dont know what true art is ugh...

>>543273980
I think this was supposed to be a /v/ thread

>>543274043
So you complain about people discussing gamedev e-celebs by posting a non-gamedev e-celeb? Kind of weird init?

>>543274145
Argumentum ad populum

>>543274098
that's the genuine idea that, if executed right, would make millions in days due to people buying it as a "fuck you" to that Chris guy. tick tock, the momentnum is dying

>>543274249
Use this pic in your dating profile

>>543274237
thats just to illustrate my point, i genuinely thought eceleb worshipper was an agdg insult like nodev

>>543272820
It's the difference between the game developer and the game player: the player gets disillusioned, the developer gets excited and inspired to craft their own illusions

>>543274043
>but its actually a global mental illness
You're kinda slow huh

>>543274438
No, this instead

reporting in for my first day of optimized productivity. did my first 25 minutes of game development, about to take a 5 minute break on the toilet. 3 more cycles of this then I'll spend 30 minutes on the toilet. the payoff has already been noticeable.

>>543231670
>run you game in 480x320
>>>no one will notice how shit it is.
>>>>>It might even look good.
forcing a 3d game into a lower resolution is a sign of a hack developer and them trying to hide shit art

every time I see a game pulling that shit the game looks like ass

>>543274932
If he wants to get gay men maybe, women dont like blondes.

aiight see you on the other side champs

>>543275407
cris is gay

>>543271217
there's something so despicable about using emojis in your game

>>543274043
>...(Unc reacts)
ironic

a game about little girls twerking

>>543275749
unc is funny as fuck

>>543275923
mooooooooods

>>543275486
>first comment is talking about how fucked Godot's physics are

>>543252428
>timing
release during next fest????
>content
1 level + level editor
1 level doesn't even randomize anything for each run if I got it right from the reviews
>ugly characters
I don't think even zoomies would like these

I think he correctly identified a type of game he could make for success but really fumbled on the execution

why the fuck didn't he use the level editor to make at least a couple maps? for a guy who seems to know some shit he's surprisingly stupid

>>543276558
For me it's 4 > 3 >> 2 > 1

>>543276558
get these hags outta here

>>543262239
>Because if he did a demo, it would have been the full game.
I bet that's why he didn't do a demo but why it didn't clue him in that it would go badly on launch idk

>>543277098
>>543275923
kanna...

>>543276947
>for a guy who seems to know some shit he's surprisingly stupid
When you're in the middle of things you're often too distracted solving immediate problems to notice giant problems that would otherwise be really obvious to outsiders. This is part of why solo development is stupid and teams pretty much always do better. Remember, the vast majority of "solo" development stories actually had other lesser known contributors, such as outside play testers who could immediately spot and point out glaring issues the developer would otherwise have become blind to.

>>543276121
wegs are soul, anyone else agrees besides me and cris?

>>543258982
>>543259291
shouda released it as a standalone game

>>543276947
>release during next fest????
mr steam marketer says this is actually a decent time because not many indies do it and the competition is thin

>>543277351
lots of brownoids with a median IQ of 40

>>543260393
>and if you do even a bit of digging you can find something appealing to you.
nextfest was full of shit

I went through the entire list, played a dozen demos and wishlisted 2

>>543277606
my brethren

>>543277757
What games did you wishlist?

i am the vegeta of gamedev

>>543268628
Retard. Kill yourself immediately subhuman /v/ retard.

>>543264697
I don't particularly care for it for realistic visuals but it's great for fantasy. Photobashing is comparatively easy but making those character and prop textures look good is still quite a bit of effort and requires some skill in digital painting and image manipulation.

I think the reason it's not used more is that people learning 3d modeling today wouldn't be familiar with it. They'll likely be learning PBR style texturing workflows or purely painted styles and there's not a lot of good resources on how to make this sort of retro 3d art.

>>543278228
Those are called whodevs

>>543272531
I'm like the weird complement of this where I really want to make story-heavy adventure games and enjoy coding and scripting all the game stuff, but don't actually enjoy making the story and the assets.

>>543264697
I'm gonna make a VTMB-like...

>>543272531
>>543278754
hmmm....nah

>>543277590
considering how many friendslop demos there were I'd say releasing during it wasn't very well thought out

>>543277917
abyss kitchen and xol but xol needs some serious work in it for me to ever consider buying it

abyss kitchen was interesting because it puts you into a different role than what you're used to, the graphics are cute and I wanted to play more after the short demo so if it's priced right I'll grab it on launch

>>543279707
prompt?

>>543278818
You won't do shit, nodev.

>>543279707
Uhhh...

>>543272531
Animated shorts have some potential on youtube but it would've been better had you started it 10-15 years ago.

Added the settings menu to a regular level and not just the main menu. I still have to get it working with a controller and hook it up on all 45+ levels to the pause menu like I did in this tutorial level footage.

>>543280214
damn that looks like ass

>>543273980
Why is she wearing old man business shoes?

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>543280293
Whats wrong with it?

>>543280214
Imagine having a game nearly a decade into development and finally adding settings to the pause menu. That's one of the things I tell people to add to their first Pong game.

AIbros...the normies are starting to notice that we haven't produced a single thing yet

>>543280478
something about the colors and lighting doesn't seem right

>>543279707
wishlisted

>>543279707
>pubic hair peeking through 2 layers of clothes
really nigga?

>>543278818
My game looks like this, but with uglier characters.

>>543258982
More reviews than Tower of Kakalenovo.

>>543280214
>hook it up on all 45+ levels to the pause menu
So this is the workflow that makes this game take decades to make.

>>543280597
niggas have been making whole ass games >>543263649

>>543280610
Do you perfer this other indie games gray clean UI or something?

>>543281027
Barely.

>>543281143
i wasn't talking about the menu

>>543281212
the creatures who post bochi here btw

>>543281227
??? Thats the context of whats being posted

>>543280478
NTA but
>Yellow game paused screen, looks like a notebook
>Then turns into this blue box
>And now there are random gears there
>And the boxes you click are now white
Persona had this right by sticking to one color for all the menus.

>>543281290
Incorrect. I look like this.

>>543281113
AI has literally had no significant positive impact on software releases in any field, if it was actually useful you'd see a dramatic spike unto eternity

>>543281290
H-how did you know?

I'm a dev who wants to make story games while sucking at writing stories. Is there any trick to writing stories beyond just staring at a text editor until something happens?

>>543281538
it's not hard to put 1+1 together

kill yourself

>>543281524
correlation is not causation, do you have the data with games having an AI disclosure widget? if no then pipe down

>>543281290
Wrong this is me

>>543281731
Read and study good books and screenplays from the perspective of a writer. Think about the structure and the pacing. Critically analyze each block of text and note their functions.

Can i make it as a gamedev with these story writing skills

>>543281882
>used AI to generate some extra tile graphics
>this means the entire gamedev process is automated

cuffbust on the left, megabonk on the right

>>543281964
He's literally me.

>>543282179
no? i accept your concession, trying to manipulate data like xhe's a westoid journalist

>>543282574
Sorry jeetbro, you know its bad when even pro-AI people are dooming. You retards can't accomplish shit and this bubble is getting pretty shaky.

>>543281143
looks much better than yours thoughbeit

>>543281731
I lift good passages from books that have since passed into the public domain. Gamers aren't cultured enough to know where all of it is from.

>>543281731
Make stories that are told through gameplay. If you think about Zelda there's some text but most of those games' stories are told through the adventure you go on as the player. Environmental storytelling and also kinda player stories.

>>543281731
What makes you think /agdg/ knows a goddamn thing about writing. Go ask /lit/

>>543282179
>Put a little bit of poopoo in your food
>This means the entire dish is shit

did they consider when making godot that it might be useful if it didn't crash every 30 minutes?

>>543282778
you lied, you lost
i'm Chinese and hate jeets btw
>>543282890
don't start arguments you cannot win

>>543283208
GOOD MORNING SIR

>>543283208
Sar...

>>543283323
>i'm Chinese

>>543283316
Skill issue. The Godot editor is insanely powerful and allows you to run your own code inside the editor. With great power comes great responsibility.

Do people actually watch YouTube shorts?

>>543283208
At this point people need to either go big with AI and literally have it do everything while of course being proportional faster and nimbler and higher quality than comparable devs (this literally has never happened) or just do little things here and there that actually speed up development or save money and is easy to hide from Steam and customers.
Going partway and self-inflicting the tag of death or being visibly AI, despite doing everything else the hard way is self-sabotage.

>>543283584
disingenous westoid, being a liar is a way of life for you
ragebait, clickbait, gaslight

jeets defending ai slop: yeah but imagine it's actual literal human faeces, dont think its so bad anymore do you?

only jeets use AI, before starting cursor you have to scan your brown hand

>>543282226
Man I'd megabonk her if I you kow what I mean

>>543281354
>>543282784
Is this better?

>>543284283
>that screencap watermark
Every time

>>543284283
they are trolling it looks great

I NEED MOTIVATION BROS

>>543284283
You guys clearly don't play your own games, there's no way boku saw that pause screen with fucking every piece of text blending in with the background and didn't write a note to himself to fix it instead of changing the UI sprites again.

>>543284283
Covering the whole screen this time is an improvement but the Rounded Rectangles in a game about Cubes is very dumb.

>>543284717
You rack discirpine.

>>543283662
normies do, they love doomscrolling

>>543284283
The missing hearts should be grey

>>543284739
DO you mean the games controls reminder UI? Does it blend in too much? Maybe I should put it on a separate help menu?

oh boy here we go

>>543284865
All of the cubes in bokube are bevel rounded cubes though

>>543285109
you should blur the game while it's paused so it's more readable

>>543284897
don't shoot up your school cletus

boku WILL make it

>>543285973
56 reviews 6 months

>>543284283
no
>>543285020
>missing hearts
those are there even before you get them kek

>>543286176
at $4.99?? no way it will be 50 reviews in 1-2 months tops.

>>543286479
$4.99? good on ya
213 reviews 6 months

>>543286479
Who's gonna tell him?

>>543256585
Word salad. Make games

>>543252619
Most accurate and concise assessment of the choo choo cuck's downfall I've see so far.

>>543287909
>>543252619
Why did Choo Choo Charles succeed if "make a good game" is necessary?
That game sucks...

>>543288228
>sell snake oil
>come back to same town a year later as the "epic snakeoils salesman"
>people don't want your snake oil
>wtf it worked the first time!!!!

>>543288228
Go ahead, make a bad game then. I'm waiting.

>>543288228
Just because you don't like it personally doesn't mean it's not a good game. Choo Choo Charles is provably a good game from the fact that it succeeded.

>>543252167 (OP)
hey v3 expo guys, is this a good site to shill your event?

>>543288228
fnaf peak, there was a creepypasta about thomas the tank engine and funnily enough our own trainwiz made a thomas mod for skyrim that inspired the copypasta since it was accidentally spooky for a lot of streamers since it replaced dragons

>>543288535
I... I... I CAN'T

>>543288658
>Coca Cola and Mars bars are provably good food

>>543288228
its success is proof that it was good
and being good is what made it successful

>>543288705
looks kinda dead

I have a question about 3D model axes and default orientations. I'm well aware this just comes down to convention... I'm asking what the most common convention is.

Assume (arbitrarily) a DirectX style left-handed coordinate system: +Y points up, +Z points into the screen.
Assume my game engine, rendering API, modelling program, file format, etc all agree about this so no conversions are involved.
Assuming I'm modelling a human character.

The modelling convention seems to be to model the character such that they face the default "camera". So they're standing at the origin and looking out of the screen (they're looking along -Z in the axes I defined above).
For usage in a game, isn't that backwards? If I increment Z to move the character "forward" in the world, they'll go that direction while still facing the camera and end up moonwalking.

Do I just need to accept this and add an extra transform somewhere, or maybe add some flags to auto-rotate everything?
Is the convention different for characters vs objects like cars?

>>543288820
>nooooooooooooooooooooo you can't just use verifiable practical metrics like popularity and profit, you have to rely on vibes, specifically my vibes

>>543288897
Personally, I would say that X-forward Y-left Z-up is the best convention for gameplay logic, but unfortunately, most game engines are written by graphics engineers and not game designers.

>>543289226
>unreal being uniquely retarded as per usual

I like that they've even acknowledge it and their default mannequin mesh faces X+ despite Y+ being the forward direction in the engine
Makes it a fucking bitch to fix up root motion and retarget I'll tell you hwat

>>543288826
Finally anons are getting it.

The challenge of the game developer is to try to understand game design well enough to do their best to make their game good, but they'll never actually know for sure if they succeeded or not at making the game good until after release. Sometimes you can create hype before release through marketing, but when the game actually releases all the hype can be immediately wiped away by the game being bad, which is exactly what happened here. This is why whether the product is good or bad is the only thing that matters in the end.

>>543288820
Why do midwits think that everything popular is just like Coca-Cola and McDonalds

Coke and MickeyDs are both great.

>>543288820
Yes. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean that they're bad.

>>543288820
yes they taste good you fucking retard

>>543289425
UE's forward is +X

>>543290495
Marmaskus...

>>543291258
Yeah I flipped it.
Point remains that them designing the mannequin around Y+ and the engine around X+ is retarded.

ok i will try to soullessmaxx as my entrypoint to retardmaxxing, should i make a vampire survivors like or an idle game? i dont want to make a direct gambling/slot/poker game it's still too gross for me

>>543292012
start with pong

>>543292012
idle vampire survivors game

>>543292012
I'm bearish on survivors-likes and bullish on idlers.

>>543292217
This does work well.

>>543288228
Choo Choo Charles is fine though.

>>543292012
Elden Ring + Vampire Survivors

>>543292012
Make Pong

>>543252903
He can't, he doesn't actually know any trains beyond Thomas the train, that one. Notice how his game has no real connection to Thomas.

>make streamerbait game
>they don't take the bait and it fails

>>543293008
Streamers deserve better bait.

Vampire survivors came out 4 years ago and agdg is still trying to jump on the bandwagon

>>543293008
Literally me every time I've gone fishing

what happened to this game? he hasnt posted in 10 years

thoughts on 3d models /agdg/ used to post back then (before the gacha tranime pedo tourists came)

>>543294417
What game? You posted an asset pack demo scene.

>>543294660
How have you been around this long and still not made a video game?

>>543294660
bbc coded

>>543291787
Unreal made their retarded decisions decades ago

>>543294902
>and still not made a video game?
source?

>>543295110
real tools used by people in real industries: Z-UP
goofy siwwy wiwwy hobbyslop: Y-UP

>>543294417
You know what happened.

>>543295413
sex with becky

>>543295570
she is 6

>>543295110
The conflicting philosophies of Z-up vs Y-up is one of largely top-down perspective vs first-person perspective, so it's kind of interesting that Source, Cry, and Unreal ended up with Z-up. Maybe they were thinking from level designer perspective over player perspective.

>>543295283
Intuition.

Should I make an Orblike?

>>543295920
No. Make a barlike.

>>543295920
>>543296006
pong has orbs and bars

>>543296059
Mind = blown

>>543295817
i recommend not making any important life decisions based on your intuition then

Another week of negative progress...

i overslept again...

>>543288820
>>543291023
This is exactly the kind of food analogy we need.

People like slopgames because they're fun and don't care that they are not good for them just like they like slop food because it tastes good despite it being unhealthy.

A game going viral is a form of slop. Choo Choo Charles went viral not because it had good gameplay but because it had a train that's alive like Thomas the Tank Engine but it's a spooky scary monster that chases you. It also released in a time where relatively few horror games were being made. If it released in 2025 it probably wouldn't do that well because the horror market is a lot more saturated.

In comparison CrustBust came out at the height of friendslop meta, had server problems and lacked content. It absolutely had the potential to go viral but Gavin fumbled the launch hard.

>>543289503
There's various ways to gauge if the game's good before launch. Gavin's trailer approach is one such way but you still need to deliver on what you were trying to sell with trailer. Another would be releasing an early demo, like a jam game on itch. If it gets enough attention there then you can move onto a polished demo on Steam and see if the momentum holds. Being consistently successful is all about risk management. Testing the waters early is just about the best way to lower the risk of a project. The downside is that you need data. You can't just slap your first game on itch, see it got 100 players and think that's good enough. Once you got 5-10 games on itch you should be able to see which of them are performing better and could be worth pursuing further.

Trailer views, demo engagement, shorts, tiktoks, twitter likes, wishlists, wishlist velocity, all that is to help you get some idea where this game is going and if it's going to sell at all.

almost time for another 30 minute session on the toilet. the amount of stuff I've gotten done or figured out today has actually been incredible. this might not be a meme.

>>543296298
I make those based on divine inspiration.

>>543296558
>>>543288820
>>>543291023
>This is exactly the kind of food analogy we need.
>
>People like slopgames because they're fun and don't care that they are not good for them just like they like slop food because it tastes good despite it being unhealthy.
>
>A game going viral is a form of slop. Choo Choo Charles went viral not because it had good gameplay but because it had a train that's alive like Thomas the Tank Engine but it's a spooky scary monster that chases you. It also released in a time where relatively few horror games were being made. If it released in 2025 it probably wouldn't do that well because the horror market is a lot more saturated.
>
>In comparison CrustBust came out at the height of friendslop meta, had server problems and lacked content. It absolutely had the potential to go viral but Gavin fumbled the launch hard.
>
>>>543289503
>There's various ways to gauge if the game's good before launch. Gavin's trailer approach is one such way but you still need to deliver on what you were trying to sell with trailer. Another would be releasing an early demo, like a jam game on itch. If it gets enough attention there then you can move onto a polished demo on Steam and see if the momentum holds. Being consistently successful is all about risk management. Testing the waters early is just about the best way to lower the risk of a project. The downside is that you need data. You can't just slap your first game on itch, see it got 100 players and think that's good enough. Once you got 5-10 games on itch you should be able to see which of them are performing better and could be worth pursuing further.
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>Trailer views, demo engagement, shorts, tiktoks, twitter likes, wishlists, wishlist velocity, all that is to help you get some idea where this game is going and if it's going to sell at all.

Tomorrow Monday is when my truedev journey begins.
Up until now? I've merely been sleeping, I've been holding myself back, giving it my 1%.

Tomorrow everything changes. It's time.

>>543281212
>guys that want to be girls
>do stereotypical thing guys do (taking pictures of themselves in the mirror and using it as a pfp)
fucking why

>>543292012
incremental is the new hot sloppa

take a game you like, boil it down to its core elements and make an incremental game about that

>>543296558
Yes, ironically, or perhaps karmically, Mr Metadev himself became a flopping copycat, releasing a shit, rushed together soulless friendslop right after PEAK.
How many people did the same after his first, and only hit?

>>543283824
nta but from what I've heard isn't the chinese way of life built on lies too?

>>543296779
what's this gay shit, it looks cool

>>543297225
Is my game. Tamabuki. Survival horror third person shooter except your ammo is tied to a virtual pet (like a tamagotchi) you gotta' take care of.

I'm glad you think it looks cool. Soon he'll be able to attack the player with a sick-ass beam saber :O

>>543297027
>taking pictures of themselves in the mirror and using it as a pfp
Straight guys don't do that, fag.

>>543294660
Post more

>>543297523
nobody whos opinion matters uses themselves as a pfp

aiight. close enough

I couldn't pong left

>>543298078
Three rights make a left.

>>543294524
i look like this

>>543297426
don't use emojis at me faggot

looking good, best of luck with your game development

This hobby has taken its toll on me
It said goodbye too many times before
And its code is breaking in front of me
And I have no choice, because I won't say goodbye anymore

>>543294660
Gork promt?

>>543299258
Things look gloomy only while the code is broken. You will succeed.

>>543299295
"Fat bitch who looks like she pissed herself because the artist can't into ambient occlusion"

>>543298723
Thanks nigga'

>>543296779
>>543297426
where's the horror?

>>543300790
>They just want to push a button.
Yes.

>>543300790
Kinda funny anyone was ever scared of these guys.

>>543300992
he is actually mtf

>>543300790
They're consumers rather than producers. They want the product to be given to them rather than to create the product.

Nobody said it was easy

>>543300790
All my friends who wanted to write a book still hasn't produced a book despite AI existing.
You could make it a single button for these people and they still wouldnt' do it.

i already know im skilled enough to do all the work so why should i instead of magically skipping it with AI

>>543301401
you still have to proof read it

>>543261397
cris you can't give up now
i forgot to say but one of my friends saw your maid game webms the other day and unironically wanted to play it

>>543301361
They said that you can do it.
They said that we're all gonna make it.
That is a lie.

>>543301836
lol cris is bipolar he cannot give up he just has manic and depressive phases, he will be back to making that dogshit hentai game next week

>>543301726
Oh ye of little faith.

>>543302153
That's only because nothing is as easy as quitting. While making a game is hard. But it's still doable.

Going extra mile to make my background graphics unnecessarily busy

>>543302331
>it's still doable
For some of us, yes.
For many others, no.
No one says that it's easy, but not enough people say that solo indie gamedev is one of the absolute hardest things you could be doing with your life. While there are some of us who participate in this jobby because it's a meritocracy where our skills and efforts will yield the most reward, there are others who participate because they've already failed at everything else in life. They are able to delude themselves into thinking they stand a chance simply because they can't even begin to comprehend how difficult things really are.

>tfw outsmarting ai
heh. i always knew i was high iq

>>543303385
AIs are programmed to toady you. Even the most bullshit schizoshit still get a lukewarm "That is a good point and I see why you would think like that".

>>543302916
Looks accurate to 16-bit era graphics to me.

>>543303796
idk man, i think im actually making the ai much smarter with my input
i should contact anthropic to get paid

>>543257341
>>543268982
>>543281461
>>543281538
>>543282268
>>543286673
>>543297523
Hi sisters. Anyone know where I can find the bocchi folder some anon posted in here awhile back? Or if you have a folder and willing to share would appreciate that thanks

>>543303385
that just means your prompt was bad

>>543288705
v3guy here. What? There's a "4chan is kill edition" post there. Something tells me it's not an active site. Why are you asking?

>>543303385
n-now way!

>>543304000
trips don't lie

>Have had a tune stuck in my head for the past week
>can't remember where it's from, but could swear it was from something like megaman or classic (gen 3?) pokemon for like a villain area thing
https://voca.ro/115tWmTptlc5
>hum this song into google, no search results, assume my brain is just gaslighting me with an original tune
>ffw now, go "wait a fucking second"
>i look up mario themes
>it's the mario 64 bowser boss theme
have you ever had a tune stuck in your head and think it was a random tune your brain made up only for it to actually be from something

>>543304854
normally my brain likes to come up with elaborate things then i go to look them up and the faggot just lied to me fucking brain retard

>>543304854
I'm kinda scared if I ever compose music I'll subliminally plagiarize something I heard and forgot

>>543280214
>hook it up on all 45+ levels to the pause menu
what the fuck are you doing to make it this difficult?

>>543305851
I haven't liked or respected Nintendo since I was 12

>>543305851
Wouldn't be an issue if they didn't keep suing emulators
Fuck nintendo

>>543300790
>tfw brain so ruined by ADHD that I struggle to get shit done even with the help of AI even when I want to get shit done
thinking about doing stuff is easy
doing stuff is hard

>>543280214
If you even so much as smile, you're going to hell

>>543280214
The spinning gears in settings is too distracting. You're not azur, try to make it fit aesthetic.

>>543306879
>esl moment
are
fit *the.

>>543281075
How else are you supposed to do it?
I make it a bit faster by copy/pasting the code but still...

Do people still buy and play pixel art games in the year of our lord 2025?
I'm thinking of making a 2D pixel art game as my "first game", but have a feeling no one would play it, meaning I'd have little to no players and thus little to no feedback. Especially if I try a simpler art style such as NES/GBC topdown.

>>543307319
>Do people still buy and play pixel art games in the year of our lord 2025?
>I'm thinking of making a 2D pixel art game as my "first game", but have a feeling no one would play it, meaning I'd have little to no players and thus little to no feedback. Especially if I try a simpler art style such as NES/GBC topdown.

>>543307441
Thanks for the riveting advice, anon. My life is forever changed.

Should you force yourself to continue with game dev even when you're not enjoying it at all? I have trouble focusing and keep getting distracting but whenever I'm trying to work on things I just don't want to but I have to or else nothing will ever get done. How do you get into a developer mindset?

More games should have a cute girl companion.

https://youtu.be/MfD_dzup8y4

Should I get my hands on adobe creative cloud?

>>543307810
You won't enjoy every part of gamedev. I hate doing anything UI related for example but I enjoy level design and art enough to work past it.
If you find yourself hating every second of gamedev then it probably isn't for you and you shouldn't force yourself to do it.

>>543304031
http://files.catbox.moe/ldh9df.zip

...What do I do now?

>>543309105
>...What do I do now?

>>543307319
For your early attempts at gamedev focus on keeping the scope small and gameplay fun. Graphics can be sort of whatever.

>>543307810
If you can't force yourself to grind for months to get a game finished then gamedev isn't for you.

>godot 4.5
>the animation player still doesn't loop perfectly on perfectly looped animations from blender
Thank you Juan, sincerely, thank you so fucking much.

>>543309459
Unity 6 will fix this.

>he uses godont
lmao

gmi status? my computer can't run godot or unreal or unity or blender 3.0+

There's some Unity store asset that everyone is using to implement multiplayer in these friendslop games right? I doubt they are programming it from scratch since apparently programming multiplayer is a nightmare.

>>543311260
ngmi

>>543311260
FPS Creator 10 will run worse than any of those after you put in a few prefabs and enemies. It really is a huge piece of shit.

>>543311260
Try making your game in Cuffbust™. It has a custom map editor.

>>543311260
Maybe you should try getting a job

is bokube out yet

>>543311654
>UE5
bwo...

>>543311353
Multiplayer in Unreal is pretty easy to implement actually. Especially in co-op games where you don't really care if it's buggy.
Dunno about Unity tho.

>>543311260
try sfml, raylib or SDL
which openGL version do you have?
linux gives better openGL support than windows

if at some point you decide to buy a computer, make sure that it has vulkan support
https://vulkan.gpuinfo.org/

>>543311828
yes, it sold 3 copies

>>543311260
You can’t even open blender? It runs much worse when it’s actually doing modeling, your pc must be terrible.
FPS is super saturated as a genre. What’s gonna make your concept stand out?

>>543311260
Blitz3d my nigga
DirectX 7 Soul

>>543307810
>Should you force yourself to continue with game dev even when you're not enjoying it at all?
Why would you ever force yourself to do something you don't enjoy unless you were getting compensated in some other way?

>>543311353
Unity has a bunch of default settings to help with multiplayer now

As insignificant as it is, switching into combat stance now causes Fygoon's legs to shift.

What are some indie composers that are notable?
I have Christopher Larkin in mind but I'm guessing he charges a fortune.

>>543314985
Toby Fox

>>543313720
Kino graphics but it probably won't run on modern systems problem free.

>>543314985
disasterpeace

>>543280214
You can do better than this. Black icons on a white backdrop would be better than this.

Your son tells you "My game isn't like other games, it's more of a compositional medium like text or sheet music or legos or the periodic table."
You are not his father.
What genre is he working in?

What kind of underwear do fantasy races wear?
Do elves even wear underwear?

>>543316367
flash porn game

>>543316226
>You can do better than this
>it has been 10 years
anon...

>>543316573
high elves and dark elves wear silk underwear, wood elves don't wear underwear

>>543316573
>What kind of underwear do fantasy races wear?
>Do elves even wear underwear?

>>543316573
Purple

I'm probably going to pay over 1k for all of the assets and the compilation of an intro for the game.

>>543316573
kanna...

Anyone tried UEFN? I want to get to learning UE5 but wondered if UEFN is a good stepping stone first since that Fortnite already has most of the gameplay in check.

>>543317132
you gotta head next door to the amateur game funder general, this thread is for developing games

>>543317427
I have to fund good marketing somehow.

>check /agdg/ for the first time in 5 years
>bokudev still isn't finished his game

>make a good trailer
>now have to make sure the game is actually good
NOOOOO

I need to optimize the concept more before doing anything rash

how do i even channel a percent of Yanderedev's power?

>>543313720
my first engine lol

>>543318457
>plot twist: the trailer is bad

>>543300992
Working on the foundations of the game currently. It honestly will probably end up being far less horror and more dark atmosphere in the end.


Finally got this beam saber VFX down. Should look stellar once the attack animations are combined with it.

>>543252428
the titanic failure of a 200k wishlist game made by an eceleb is really grim but all the faggots that would buy it are playing MEGABONK so yeah...

Day 19. The crab now tries to pick up any cars that get too close to him. I'll try to experiment with the best way to make him throw it next.

>>543319185
crabba stole my bike

>>543319314
I should make a space bike, too...

>>543319473
Don't worry twisted titties is next

my game? bonk
your game? bust

>>543319473
yes?

Most of you guys simply aren't cut out for this and its okay to admit that

i am not cut out for this...

>>543252428
He failed to recognize his genre (immsim) and follow well-understood design ideas
Yes its nice to have multiple solutions to a puzzle, but pinch points would have prevented his ONE AND ONLY level from being short circuited with a 15 second to victory strategy, and some mild randomness in the map layout would increase replayability A LOT
he invested heavily into a level builder but didn’t bother with getting his patreon supporters to fill up the workshop a bit in the leadup to full release. Then he released at 20 dollars and alienated all of his most loyal fans who are the most likely to build levels for him in the first couple months (the only time that matters)
And his taste is terrible. Weed smoking koalas. They aren’t particularly expressive or cool or cute or sexy. An utter waste of such an important part of friendslop

>300 reviews
>$10
minimum $250000 in sales already

>>543316367
>Your son
>You are not his father.
The solution to the riddle is that you are his mother.

>>543320310
would that be enough for all the people he hired for the game?