Thread 543673578

Deadfire edition

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>Thread Question
Thoughts on Deadfire?

>shitfire
>flopvowed
Obsidian is going the way of Bioware

>>543673578 (OP)
>Thoughts on Deadfire?
Killed Pillars

>>543673846
No, they'll survive with great hits such as Outer Worlds 2

>>543673578 (OP)
The best iteration of any RTWP gameplay, everything else is meh or bad. Gear progression is pretty nice though, specifically those legendaries that you can upgrade via quests.

So Owlkek is gonna reveal more shit about Dark Heresy on the 25th, including alpha date. We are most likely gonna know the new companions. Post your predictions on who the reamianing 4 people will be - 3 women 1 man (we know that we have a male psyker and one of the companions will be Admech)
Let's see if we have a Nostrodamus anon here

>>543674107
a greenskin
a longshank
a felinid
a necron
all will cuck you in some way

Clementia marriage when? Malice companion when?

>>543674107
they will show the waifubait to get waifufags to stop crying.

>>543674107
Male Psyker
Female Techpriestess
Female hive scum
Female Deldar (the ambient misery in the hive sustains her)

>>543674107
>male psyker
JIMMY COMEBACK LET'S GOOOOOOO!!!! I WILL NOW BUY YOUR GAME (no)

>>543674553
Nah he's the asian dude

>>543675020
A simple portrait mod will fix that

>>543674107
That Male chink Psyker
Female Techpriest for romance
Night Lord will be a secret companion like Marz
Another Eldar if only so all this Eldar eq doesn't go to waste by being usable only on a single character. Maybe a clown girl. They could easily have some prophecy about Tyrant Star and so wanting to stop it. Unless they just do a switch and make Deldar gf. Deldar would fit this morale and terror mechanic really well in here, just like Night Lords
Daemonhost will be in game in some way, not sure if as a companion, but has to be in.

>>543673578 (OP)
Deadfire was a terrible game with perhaps the worst roster of companion characters ever seen in an RPG (until Veilguard) with a meandering main plot and villain that ultimately didn't even need the protagonist to be there to reach its resolution and a faction war that you really had no reason to give a fuck about whatsoever. Oh and the ship system was absolute trash in every possible way. Great art assets and a decent combat system cannot salvage it as a result and I could never in good conscience recommend anyone waste their time on it.

>>543674107
No female elf, so all the elffags kill themselves

>>543675506
> a meandering main plot and villain that ultimately didn't even need the protagonist to be
Doesn't that also describe the plot to pillars 1. Your just dealing with a soul pile up a animated mage could have dealt with that.

>>543675702
>animated
Whoops sorry animancer

>>543675506
You don't like CRPGs if you dislike Deadfire, leave this general

Have they released the turn based mod for poe1 yet?

CRITICAL ROLE

>>543674107
>(we know that we have a male psyker
Oh to specify the 4 companions are in addition to him since some are saying male psyker in replies

>>543673578 (OP)
>Thoughts on Deadfire?
I didn't bother after it was revealed that it will have one less character in a party. Just permanently wrote it off without bothering to read about anything else regarding it. 6 is a bare minimum, but crpgs should have progressed far beyond and above this ages ago. Ideally no cap at all

if it’s mid/bad
>everyone expected this, business as usual, woke is blamed, as well as the departure of obsidian talent

If it’s somehow good/fantastic:
>wont even get sleeper hit status due to the controversy around the price, culture war over all the companions/writing, women and troons being turned off by deliberate lack of romances, the leftist virtue signal boycott of Microsoft products over Palestine, and would need insane word of mouth reach to get its money back

Obsidian is fucked every way with this game. Not even being a straight New Vegas clone with the 1950s radio music and RPG elements will save it.

How much longer until solasta 2?

Obsidian and BioWare are dead and have been dead for a decade. Why pretend they still have the ability to make hits?

>>543676367
>If it's somehow good/fantastic
There is no "somehow" good/fantastic with this cast of mysterymeats, stop being off-topic

>>543674107
Female witch hunter type character with a cool hat - pic related
Male officer type character that is an arbitrator
Female hive criminal
Female Ynnari Drukhari

>>543676317
Anything over a party of 4 is excessive actually.

>>543676658
Outer Worlds has such a ugly aesthetic

>>543674107
Taucow

>>543676317
Sawyer is a nazi??? how hasn't he been cancelled for this shit???

>>543674107
The Calixis sector is run by Marius Hax, a lawtist who cares more about order than even imperial laws, but he does seem to be depicted as running a tight ship well, so it should be interesting to see how this plays with the Inquisitor and his team.

I'm guessing there'll be some type of character connected somehow to Lord Calixis, maybe a sanctioned psyker. This will likely be one of the female characters. If there's a heretic path for the game this character may feature as a traitor type of storyline.

Duels and trials by combat are common on Scintilla, the sector capital, so I wouldn't be surprised if Owlcat went with a romantic duellist type of character concept as well, likely a swashbuckling male character to avoid similarities with Camellia.

Beyond that it depends how far away from the main planet the story will stray before adding new characters. Browsing the Calixis Sector source material its really easy to spawn character concepts all over the place. Gunmetal City is a good spot for underworld types to join the inquisitor's entourage for instance.

I don't think there'll be too many alien options beyond the two already announced.

>>543676851
I bet the hat will be in the game. I will wear it with cool shades

Seelah should have been the romanceable paladin instead of galfrey. We spend way more time with and get to learn way more about her.

>>543677552
We don't care about black women here bro

>>543676851
>Female witch hunter
She will mog me...

>>543677704
I do

>>543677469
>I don't think there'll be too many alien options beyond the two already announced.
The reason I think we might get one more xeno since leakfag said there will be several senos scum in the party. And everyone is assuming there is 10 companions WOTR had 12, KM had 11

>>543677552
>nigger paladin
no thanks, take your jungle fetish elsewhere

>>543677871
Well one more than. Hopefully its something interesting.

I'm not counting DLCs in my post, also, likely they'll see whats popular and what the post-release surveys tell them to decide what DLC companions end up being

>>543676658
you can say the same about a lot of other rpg companion casts that turned out surprisingly decent

>>543678019
Anon is clearly annoyed by their skin colour, there's no getting around that.

>>543675946
People liked and enjoyed CRPGs before Deadfire even existed you tasteless cretin. The fact you think Deadfire is an acceptable game only shows your absolute lack of discretion and discernment.

has obsidian earned your blind trust? how was avowed?

>>543677871
2 is already several

>>543676658
Damn that is one ugly looking game, and companion cast. Straight up repulsive.

>>543677931
what's with western devs shilling it anyway
>blizzard
>bg3
>owlcat
>aow
>poe

>>543677871
Like with Rogue Trader having other Rogue Trader characters that were late game recruitable, there's a list of other inquisitors in the Dark Heresy sourcebook that will likely make it into the game and I wonder if some of them will end up late-game recruitable as well, following the template.

>>543676367
Culture war autists only manage to look like their opinions are relevant if a game is already failing

>>543678274
But when he revealed bird he said something along lines of "one abhuman and several xeno scum" implying more than her, he would have said just 1 more xeno if it was 2
don't have the post screenshoted
Idk maybe I misunderstood. Then again people complained about lack of xenos in RT so they could be adding 3 for the sake of fan service

>>543676367
They got pushed back for flaunting at their audience that you can't romance the characters in the game in the trailer

>>543678609
Kroot aren't abhuman they're xenos

>>543678925
He meant the ogryn

>>543678438
>Western devs shove their DEI fetish into every game they make
Yeah, sure is puzzling. For fucks sake there's a god damn consultancy company that these companies hire so they can pander to that shit as hard as possible, imagine hiring "experts" on inserting woke garbage into your games, that's Western devs for you. And yes, I know Owlcat is "Russian" but they're all a bunch of faggot Ruskie hipsters that sympathize with the West, so they're no different.

Can someone explain to me the "underrail is hard" meme? Do zoomers not just read all the feats then plan out there builds ahead of time? I went into that game excepting wizardry levels of bullshit.

>>543674107
Female Drukhari called Camelliarezsh

>>543679018
I keep forgetting there's an ogryn. What a dumb character to add. I don't even dislike ogryns but its not what I imagine in an inquisitor's retinue.

>>543678609
>don't put xenos in the RT game to not make the muh heresy secondaries sperg out
>put lots of xenos in the DH game because you realize those people don't even play games

>>543678925
He didn't say that she was abhuman when someone asked him what other party members are there in addition to her he said party apart from humans we will have an abhuman and several xenos scum.

>>543678553
>Late game recruitable
A fucking mistake. Every time, without fail. You should NEVER put these characters into the game, you are devoting major resources and time into a character that 90% of players will never take or use because they already have their party set up, OR if they are cool and fun enough to make the cut, you have now prevented the player from enjoying having them along for the huge chunks of the game that happened before they came along. It's a huge error to EVER have late game recruitables and CRPG companies need to get the fucking message and stop doing it. The absolute latest a companion should be available is midway through the first act, and even that's pushing it.

>>543678770
Why the fuck did they even do that though?
>Those expected and beloved feature in most popular RPGs? We don't have them, fuck you for expecting loser
Why? Did they want to be unique? To appeal to their 4 asexual players?

>>543679348
They worked with Sawyer and his absolute hatred of CRPG romances infected their minds. It's terminal, I'm afraid.

>>543679348
I think that's some Sawyer autism. It is somewhat surprising given that their writing staff is otherwise full of women who are probably neck deep in romantasy fiction.

>>543679317
I would take the Act 5 companions if they had something to say and weren't just silent NPCs with shitbuilds

>>543679348
I think Sawyer is just friends with someone at Microsoft because they seem to be making things they want to make instead of things meant to sell
Think the Xbox guy being in charge for so long despite coming up short so regularly

>>543678609
kroot and the elf fullfill the "several xenos" criteria already. The abhuman is the ogryn. I'm not saying there won't be xenos companions, just that the criteria has already been fullfilled

>>543679317
I agree for the most part though I do like the rare "villain turns and joins party" type concept, it should have a lot of lead up and said villain should be present in a lot of the game before the join oppurtunity.

>>543679117
>Do zoomers not just read all the feats then plan out there builds ahead of time?
Attention spans have gotten so bad that spending ten minutes to read everything at character creation is now considered a Herculean task.

>>543679521
several is by definition "more than two"

>>543679348
>To appeal to their 4 asexual players?
Why would they even need to be appealed to? You're not forced to romance anyone, so the option existing doesn't infringe ont heir special snowflake status in any way whatsoever

Reminds me of that Mighty Number 9 shit where they said something along the lines of
>Cry like a loser gamer during prom
That was funny.

A lot of these are completely random and unnecessary. What even was the goal here? Just throw random shit in the epilogues and see if retards eat it up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlawf5Qtsjg
What level of autism is this?

Owlcat should have a DLC where the character you make in some side-story ends up being recruitable to the main story team as a companion character with a personality depending on alignment.

>>543679118
Whatever it is I hope her name at least doesn't sound like she's just crawled out of the designated poo shitting street in Bombay. Marazhai Azeryesh. Jesus Christ, what were they thinking...

>>543679802
>he spared the murder rape torture elf

>>543679802
To make you suffer for helping a fucking drukhari of all things. If him slaughtering officers wasn't enough.

>>543679820
underrail fags will unironically say that this is good game design. He unironically should have just copied the fallout mini-game.

>>543679802
GRIMDARK is the point. I don't know, maybe they wanted to say
>Maybe don't let the drukhari live retard???
But this one just feels specifically cruel. This also overrides the supposedly happy ending Abelard gets when you do his companion quest right with him dying while being surrounded by his family, apparently satisfied.

>>543679802
retards who keep a deldar alive deserve no less

>>543679519
>because they seem to be making things they want to make
That's a good thing. We got Pentiment out of it, and it was an excellent game precisely because it was a game that the guy wanted to make, instead of needed to make

>>543679802
no, you see, it still totally makes sense to justify bringing Marazhai along because uhhh

>>543679556
They did exactly that with Marazhai and he's the least used character in Rogue Trader. Note also that the other late game companions have low playrates. It doesn't work and it will never work, and CRPG devs need to stop doing it. It shouldn't be hard now that every data point is tracked to see that it's a bad idea since players just end up never taking or using those characters.

>>543679820
What the fuck you actually need to learn how to code to hack in this game?

>>543680105
Why is jae so unpopular?

>>543679820
for me, it's the shoe tying mechanic

>>543679802
It's a consequence of your decision to keep Marz alive, despite knowing what he's like. They added an actual, realistic consequence to crpg and you complain about it. This genre lives or dies by it's choices&consequences anon, stuff like this is a good thing.

And in this particular case, you have only yourself to blame. You kept him alive and protected him from all the people around you who advised you to kill him, stubbornly insisting against their advice. Knowing what he did to you personally, what he did to the people of your protectorate. You reap what you sow. You could have stopped a serial killer, but instead you saved him, and when the serial killer continues on to take more victims, you say "bro wtf these developers just doing random shit!?!?!".

Kids these days.

>>543679895
>>543679981
>>543680090
>>543680069
it's not even close to the only ridiculous one tho. jimmy dindu nuffin.
>>543680068
>GRIMDARK is the point
I wish misanthropes would just kill themselves desu. they get their wish and I wouldn't have to put up with their faggotry.

>>543680105
>Note also that the other late game companions have low playrates.
Is there a survey pic that includes the late game rogue trader recruitables? Because its not in your image.

>>543680105
Marazhai fucking sucks all around though, he's not really a good metric for anything
lots of people just flat out don't even know you can recruit him on their first run because there is absolutely no non-metagaming reason to ever justify not killing him

>>543680210
brown and ugly for starters
boring archetype that gets more mileage in any other space setting

>>543679802
This is specifically was to punish retards who can't into roleplay.
However i do agree that there are some ending slides that come completely out of nowhere. Like Abelard and solomorne playing chess (NEITHER OF THEM EVEN MENTION CHESS DURING THE GAME!), or pasqal killing turdliet (despite the two never even really talking to each other), or jae going out of her way to save jimmy (despit the fact that he nwf'd her)

>>543680379
it's fine until he starts killing people on your ship. there's no point after that where you can justify having him around other than just being quirky.

>>543680331
based Vladaym Tocara the GOD dabbing on jimicels

>>543680303
The funny thing is it's not even a repentant serial killer or one hiding his evil, it's an open bloodthirsty maniac who shows 0 remorse and says he wants to kill and torture. And people wonder why letting such a person loose results in bad things happening

The first time I played dao I took that villain guy with black hair into my party and Alistair had a hissy fit and ran off. I’m still pissed about that.

>>543680563
Jimicels have jimmy chained to their beds so he doesn't get assassinated though

>>543680445
>or jae going out of her way to save jimmy (despit the fact that he nwf'd her)
she's another one. she supposedly died (even though I did all her quests thoroughly) and yet she has this random beef with the spinners in particular? it's awkward and unnecessary.

>>543680379
That's not true though, if you're actually roleplaying your character as desperately wanting to get out of Commoragh it makes perfect sense to make an alliance with another guy who's completely fucked, has nothing to lose, and has every reason to also want to escape. It's just that players don't actually roleplay, know they'll get out of Commoragh anyway with or without his help due to metagame knowledge, and therefore say "there's no reason to recruit him" when there 100% is and would be if you actually think about the situation your character is in.

>>543679802
Le Grimdark. Same with the Maive endings.

>>543680379
>lots of people just flat out don't even know you can recruit him on
Bro, he's not a secret companion or anything. He was advertized as a companion before the game's release. If you don't know that you can recruit him, then you're some sort imbecile

>>543680714
>and yet she has this random beef with the spinners in particular?
Doesn't that happen when kibbles goes dogmatic? Jae never stops being a cold trader in any of her endings so of course the spinners hate her.

>>543680494
>Starts killing people on your ship
So does Kibellah. So does Idira. So does Yrliet. So does Cassia. What exactly makes Marazhai so special in this regard? Lower deckers are disposable fodder that do not matter to the Rogue Trader and can easily be replaced in any port in the Expanse, which is why every time one of your crew kills one by design or accident, no one, including your own character, gives a single flying fuck.

>>543677871
>The reason I think we might get one more xeno since leakfag said there will be several senos scum in the party.
People demanded more xenos for RT, so I guess they saw that was popular. I bet it will be another Eldar so they can share equipment with Larry.
>And everyone is assuming there is 10 companions WOTR had 12, KM had 11
I think it might be 10 because of full voice acting.

Your verdict?

>go iconoclast
>everyone gets a happy ending sans idira and mazipan; the former's best ending is bitter sweet and about the friends we made along the way before she leaves on a pilgrimage so people around her aren't put in danger and the latter's is lying dead in some ditch because he's a deldar.
I think the only one that abruptdedly died in their ending was jae because she went clean and stopped cold trading and some dick nameless rogue trader woke up on the wrong side of the bed and decided to eradicate her from existence for some reason.

>>543680742
Yrliet immediately tells you she can help you escape before you even meet him again, then he proceeds to do nothing but endlessly seethe at you unless you've been purposely ignoring how much an asshole he constantly is up until then or ask him unprompted to be your buddy for the memes

>>543680857
but why the spinners? they weren't any more venomous towards each other than most of the companions.
>>543680812
>Same with the Maive endings.
yeah wtf? there's no sign of corruption on her then "lol chaos spawn xDDD" it's just silly.

>>543680742
oh god, your retarded ass is still here?

>>543680379
I initially recruited him because I was sure there would be an option to publicly quarter him for raiding dargonus and kidnapping me, but there wasn't and everyone was like "Is that a xeno that was being annoing all along? Should we put him on the top, or middle deck, lord captain?", so I just gave him to jimmy. Utter disappointment

>>543681094
>but why the spinners?
>why do the law fags hate and kill the criminal

>>543680494
>it's fine until he starts killing people on your ship.
But pretty much everyone does this or at the very least, ignores it. Abelard is even for this. I suppose the motivations are different but the people on your ship are treated as disposable. Argenta might be the sole exception as long as HERETICS aren't involved.

>>543679802
Does he do this if he's a clown or corsair?

>>543680939
owes me sex

>>543674107
Catachans are getting a huge refresh and an expansion in 11th Edition
Eldar Corsairs are getting expansion soon for the end of 10th Edition narrative Everything points to it being a big Piratebowl between Prince Yriel and his Corsairs vs Red Corsairs and Huron Blackheart and maybe vs Kaptin Badrukk and his Ork Freebooters. Space Wolves might be there as well with their 13th cursed company
Trazyn the Infinite will get a model too during this for whatever reason
Dark Eldar will get refresh in 11th Edition, we know this already. Probably their gone resin kits remade in plastic for now as a Wave 1.
Grey Knights too will get a refresh in 11th and are due Kill Team just like Deathwatch was
New army will show up, 99% for sure DarkAdmech with Daemon engines as a faction for Vashtorr. Maybe as entire Lost and the Damned faction. Traitor Guard Kill Team got reboxed as a normal addition to 40k.
Rumor Engine already confirmed more Kroot or a Tallerian indicating further Tau Auxiliary expansion

This all fits
Trazyn will be in next dlc for RT
DLC after this will feature much demanded Orks and Freebooters will have models by then. So an Ork Pirate companion then
Catachan, Kroot and Corsair are in Dark Heresy we know this
This leaves Deldar and Grey Knights in a need of shilling. Lhamaean or a Beastmistress could be in, alongside a Grey Knight
Accursed Cultist Kill Team is in Dark Heresy. Might be that more of Lost and the Damned stuff will be in. Dark Admech may play a bigger role.

>>543681094
jae doesn't like the spinners because they are schizo blood cultists that assassinate people randomly and go "muh emperor told me to do it"

>>543681165
nta but he's correct and what you posted is not an argument, I'll accept your concession on his behalf

>>543681020
You can get Argenta/Idira ending as Icono, I think

>>543681224
they're spinners, not arbites or inquisition
they even go out of their way to say they don't kill jae in retaliation because the cards don't call her name

>Jae, Idira and Marazhai making it to the ending slides
The slides are much cleaner without these superfluous companion characters

>>543681421
>nta
sure

>>543681224
>>why do the law fags hate and kill the criminal
you've got it backwards tho
>>543681263
dunno. didn't actually tell me what he did besides become a pirate for a little bit.
>>543681391
first off, they're correct. second jae isn't any more anti-spinner than most of them. at least solomorne killing his guard makes sense. jae is completely out of left field.

>>543681443
>idira
>superfluous
Get fucked

>>543680920
>So does Kibellah.
and that's why she's dead
>So does Idira.
and that's why she's dead
>So does Yrliet.
and that's why she's dead
>So does Cassia.
She's not dead beacause I needed a navigator and then she grew on me, but you absolutely can kill her because her autism powers aren't just regular navigator shit everyone would be willing to put up with
>What exactly makes Marazhai so special in this regard?
that he's useless and a xeno
>Lower deckers are disposable
He doesnt' kill lower deckers. He kills officers. have you tried reading at all, or were you too bussy riding the dragon dildo while watching people die?

>>543681443
Every companion in superfluous frankly.

>>543681032
>Yrliet immediately tells you
First off, whether or not Yrliet is even alive (or if your character is the type that forgives her) is questionable. Second, how the fuck is a Craftworld Eldar going to help you get out of Commoragh when she knows dick all about it? Getting Marazhai on your side is a huge tactical advantage and he would logically be your best bet on knowing how to get the fuck out of Commoragh since it's his peoples city and he comes and goes from it all the time. Yeah, he's a vile, nasty, vicious and filthy xenos, but it's perfectly sensible for any number of less emotional, more rational and calculating Rogue Trader types to put aside their dislike of him and recruit him at least for a while until they can escape the city. It's asinine to say you are given no reasons to take him with you when you absolutely, totally are within the narrative that you're presented.

If I was a dev and I saw these threads I'd also remove romance. It clearly causes some kind of psychotic break and you people don't need more of it.

>>543681436
yeah I did, in my argenta's ending she formed an order and used idira as an example as a savable heretic

>>543680742
Any reason to not execute hiss ass or give him to Jimmy afterwards ?
Please do not say gratitude

>>543680714
>yet she has this random beef with the spinners in particular? it's awkward and unnecessary.
She hates spinners and kebab throughout the game. This one isn't weird at all if you bother actually paying attention

>>543680920
The people Kibbelah kills are ordered from the Emperor, so it's justified and correct to kill whoever she kills. The one single time she kills someone without orders it was a big deal, and you can execute her on the spot for it.

Idira kills people by accident, which is totally different. She also stops after it becomes a noticeable issue, which is another major difference. Killing Idira for getting people killed and inviting deamons into the ship is completely justifed however, and she is the other companion besides Marz a reasonable person would kill. Especially since she doesn't warn you about the ambush and a few other important events, thus invalidating her one job.

Yrliet doesn't kill anybody as I recall. She doesn't even kill the monkey who hits on her, if I recall correctly.

Cassis kills people by accident, which sets her apart from Marz, but she also plays an important role in the ship's function, while Marz doesn't. Marz kills people for fun and for food, while Cassia kills people by accident as a side effect of her job steering the ship every time you jump in the warp, and occassonally by accident other times because her powers affect people's emotions. But she also stops doing this after you talk to her about it. She improves, unlike Marz.

So there really isn't any analogue to Marz in the rest of the crew. Nobody else does it on purpose, and most of the others stop doing it. And most of them play a role in the ship, while Marz is just another skilled fighter which you have no shortage of.

There's so many reasons to get rid of him, and no reasons not to get rid of him. The game hits you over the head with this, but it allows you to keep him for fun or because you're a pervert. Those are the people who keep him. Those just having a lark because he's funny, or those who like his romance. And in both of these cases, the game rightfully presents several negative side effects of your decision to keep him.

>>543681443
Jae saves Jimmy before she gets destroyed for being the retard she is at the very least

How do you get captured by Marazhai if you kill Yrliet?

>>543681773
everybody is wary of them but jae doesn't stand out in particular as a "fuck these guys" person towards them. if anything kibbles talked more shit to jae than vice versa.

>>543680939
Mommy

>>543681861
Achilleas is mindbroken and turns traitor regardless. If Yrliet does not kill him, he leads you to the ambush

>>543681286
Grey Knight companion confirmed, will be the Puritan counterpart to the Radicals Night Lord.

>>543681627
He kills a bunch of people in his first sperg out and then you tell him to confine his killings to lower deckers so he's not getting rid of useful personnel, to which he agrees. So nothing of value is being lost.

>>543679802
My theory is because Abelard isn't afraid of him. In fact he pretty much treats him as if he doesn't exist and it of course grinds the gears of the space nigger. So him killing Astartia is akin to a boy pulling a girl's hair in a pathetic attempt to make her notice him

>>543682147
>then you tell him to confine his killings to lower deckers
No you don't, you put him in a sealed cabin every warp jump

>>543681789
>Especially since she doesn't warn you about the ambush and a few other important events, thus invalidating her one job.
idira warned me about multiple ambushes? atleast in act 1 she'll tell you that cultist dressed as a guardsman is sus and warn you of an ambush when you first arrive at footfall. she can also give you some cryptic advice on cassia's recruitment quest hinting at the fact that the dudes you first met are obviously not trustworthy. as you go through the game I think she does chime in less, that was a problem I had with RT where the companions had less to say or do in the later acts, abelard stopped introducing me thats his whole job

>>543681490
>second jae isn't any more anti-spinner than most of them
yes she is lmao

>>543682236
maybe but like you said they hardly even interact. I honestly can't even think of one after you get marz as a companion. it only exists to show how edgy they're trying to be. at least I got a kid from 1/3.

>>543681982
>top left
Lore innacurate.

Captcha: PAYGK

>>543681743
Narratively why wouldn't you keep him around? He's extremely useful and a powerful ally, having a Drukhari assassin to fight for you is not a minor thing in 40K. And all it costs you is a few lower decker scum who die all the time during Warp travel to all sorts of other things anyway. A more pertinent question is what reason is there NOT to take him?

Mechanically? No, there's no reason to take him since he's a late game companion with a bad prebuilt setup and Warrior is the worst class in the game outside Operative.

>>543682417
lolno. heinrix is a lot more snappy about it, as is solomorne.

>>543682551
>Narratively why wouldn't you keep him around?
your retardation needs to be studied

>>543682489
Cute baby carrier

>>543681982
Nice. All the more reason to go Ordo Maleus

>>543682362
Idira converts several ambush combats into regular combats throughout he game. In ambush combats, you don't get to place your guys during the tactical phase before the fight. So she does do her job sometimes.

But I'm referring to THE ambush. The one that is part of the story.

>>543682551
>why not to take in the dude thats been causing all your problems and desecrated your throne world

>>543681789
>She doesn't even kill the Officer who flirts with her
Yes she does, if you take the Dogmatic styled response and demand to know who it was so you can have them executed, she tells you not to worry about it, since she already killed her.

>>543682551
>Warrior is the worst class in the game
Aside from the fact that they had a super heroic hour and a flat damage boost that worked wonders, with the bladedancer nerfs, they are certainly above them now.

And you went through Commoragh killing dozens like him, who fucking cares?

>>543682147
>and then you tell him to confine his killings to lower deckers
No, I killed him because i'm not a psychopath like you are. There's also a cuckcage option for the feebleminded.

>>543681789
There are no negative side effects to keeping Marazhai, though.

>>543681956
>named after dangerous plant
>is a traitor

>>543682452
It's just my headcanon, but if I were a writer at owlshart that's the angle I would have taken and explored: the supreme vanity of the dark eldar

>>543681789
>. She doesn't even kill the monkey who hits on her, if I recall correctly.
Nah she did. If you say you will execute the one that hit on her, she will say she already did that and can even chastise her for killing without your orders iirc

>>543682658
>but I'm referring to THE ambush. The one that is part of the story.
oh. yeah. i think she had one line right before it happens telling yrliet that she's being a retard and not to do the retard move. that entire scenario basically necessitates the RT and companions rush in and don't take any time to actually think so they can be captured like that and taken to act 3.

>>543682732
Just a result of a larger scheme of the Drukhari as a whole, notably Vect, which you find out at the end of Marazhais quest.

>>543682870
Only downside is Abelard's family but I don't care about the slides

>>543682612
Heinrix doesn't hate spinners at all. He just comments that cults like that are often a breeding field for heresy, nontheless he also comments that the Inquisition wouldn't mind making use of the spinners skills

>>543682620
I really don't see how it benefits my dynasty to kill an extremely useful and deadly xenos that I have completely over a barrel.

>>543683186
after you find his heretic friend in act 4 he has banter with Kibellah where she tries to console him and he snaps about how broken and deranged she is. much more venomous than anything jae ever said.

>>543682551
>He's extremely useful
only untill you escape
>and a powerful ally
lmao? guy keels in a single hit and spends the entire game running away from you like a little bitch. Like all dark eldar he's only good for killing unwashed peasants and I already have Danrok and his hunting club for that

>>543682736
That's strange, I've played the scene a few times now and never got the impression she killed the person. I'll take your word for it. Obviously I don't approve of killing someone who merely socially offended you, and not even intentionally rude at that since most people consider flirting a compliment, so a person could reasonably kill Yrliet for that. A person who murders your officers for simple social offenses should be put down quickly, if you can't teach them not to do that in a timely fashion.

However, I would still say that killing one person for an offense (even if it's not serious) and then stops once they're told that's not ok is still leagues superior to Marz, and that this doesn't disprove the gist of my post.

>>543682870
There are. He kills your officers, and you can then relegate him to killing lower deckers if you want. The lives of lower deckers are a resource to spend in the service of the ship's operation, but they are not to be wasted, or else you are a bad leader and a bad person. Feeding them to your sex object or comedy object is a waste, and you should legitimately feel bad, regardless of the fact that their lives are your to spend. Spending the lives of your people wisely vs carelessly is literally the difference between a good king and a bad king, among other things.

>>543683049
I never got why people even gave a fuck about ending slides, they're all arbitrary garbage that often make no sense whatsoever, I actually really dislike that BG2 popularized them in the genre. It also makes it far less likely for a sequel to the game to be made since there's already "endings" for the characters, which is another downside to them. I would've liked a Rogue Trader 2.

>unrionic jae fags
That bitch should die in every ending.

>>543682658
>But I'm referring to THE ambush. The one that is part of the story.
>the voices are whispering about treachery, surely they mean kunrad's treachery
Idira...

>>543683448
You can just ignore ending slides. DA did every time.

>>543683356
We're talking narratively, are we not? I already said mechanically he's weak. Narrative wise Drukhari, especially of his rank and power, are extremely valuable and deadly allies. And yes, he's still useful after you escape, a single one of him is worth more than a thousand or even ten thousand of your enforcers, going by the lore, especially if his talents were utilized correctly.

Camellia is the only consistently useful female character in any Owlcat game

>>543683406
>and then stops once they're told that's not ok
She kills more during a random warp event

>>543683448
Same. A RT2 would just ignore all slides you know it.

>>543683406
Spending the lives of a few lower deckers who die by the score or hundreds on every traversal through the Warp anyway to retain the service of a fucking Drukhari Dracon is 100% worth it to any Rogue Trader with sense. Plenty of Rogue Traders would pay far more than that for those services.

>here's my list of RT builds
>pyromancer
>pyromancer
>pyromancer
>crime lord
>pyromancer
>pyromancer

>>543683324
She is broken and deranged and the same kind of social retard as yrliet. His reaction is absolutely justified. Not to mention that if you demand answers from him he snaps at you too, and you're not some murderhobo, you're a rogue trader

What would happen in a RT2. You are OP by the end have Nomos potentially

>>543681263
Clown no. He gets a personality overhaul
Don't know about corsair but probably

>>543683792
>you don't get it I NEED to have him kill my peasants
>what do you mean there's an option to lock him up?
You could have made a better argument, instead you decided to demonstrate what truly deplorable person you are

>>543684174
Someone steps on your ship and you have to start over from level 1

>>543684078
I'm not going to argue if he's right or wrong (he's wrong but I'm not arguing about it) but he's definitely more critical of them than jae, who at most just gives random "wtf"'s towards the spinners antics.

>>543684078
Well, he did just have to end the life of his closest friend and find out that his mentor is a crazed radical, who had his other good friend tortured to death, and who likely set up the death and fall to heresy of the friend he just killed, and that he's been played by Calcazar from start to finish and that he never had any real value aside from being just another piece on the board. He's not in the best mental state.

>>543681442
People headcanon it that in the army Jae saw death cultists arbitrarily killing innocent people for meme reasons, not even with legal justification, and getting away with it.
So she hates everything that Kibellah stands for

>>543684373
Noooooo!

>>543684353
The implication is severe that if I simply lock him up Slaanesh may snack him, so I'm risking the life of a valuable asset for what reason exactly? The lives of a few lower decker scum that mean shit and all to my Rogue Trader? No, not happening.

>>543684174
>RT2
Just play as another Rogue Trader in another different sector

>deadfire
(You)r existence is not necessary in that game, doesn't matter what you do. If berath doesn't resurrect you, the story ends the same. What's the point? I did however like the rymrgand dlc.

>>543684353
not to defend the degenerate but you do realize how hive and forge worlds work right? not to mention your own lower decks.

>>543683038
>Red what are you doing there's no path Red only swamp and underneath it black dragon rings
Jeez Idira you could have said something before I'm stuck in this dialogue sequence

>>543684470
Yeah but that's head canon, they really do show absolutely nothing in game about Jae disliking Kibellah or have any confrontations between them, and then bam in the ending slides she's waging a shadow war against the spinners trying to destroy Kibellah and the entire cult. There's really no defending it.

critical role

>>543677480
There is a similar hat in premium edition

>>543684784
i rolled a crit in ur mum last night lol gottem

>>543683406
>I've played the scene a few times now and never got the impression she killed the person
If you take the normal option, she didn't, if you take the dogmatic option, she did
It's like how depending on your answer to her appearing in your office, the craftworld was either a place where she could go where she wanted, or a rule bound place full of arbitrary boundaries
It's bad, schizo writing

>>543682362
Yeah the entire game falls apart in multiple ways once you enter Act 3, this is known. Idira and Abelard suddenly ceasing to provide the dialogue representing their reason for being in the retinue is just one of the casualties. I still maintain that Owlcat is going to 100% benefit from going full VA, they never finish anything and actually take advantage of being fully text based anyway, if anything I expect we'll get MORE dialogue and conversations, rather than less.

>>543683613
>We're talking narratively
He doesn't do anything narrative-wise to show that' he's powerful or worth the effort to have an alliance with. On the contrary:
>a nepo baby
>spends the game killing peasants not even once do we see him actually kill ayone more powerful
>runs away from a every single fight when someone with skill shows up
>gets outplayed like a fucking baby in his own scheme. Not to mention that the scheme sounds utterly retarded in the first place
>gets bamoozled again in his own questline
>is a fucking pariah in cumrag, so you can forget about having any rogue trading done with them
Where's the power? Both Malice and Yremeryss would be much better companions/allies than that. He's not even bad on principle, just the way he's implemented. They just needed to lean more on the "let's get revenge on that judge guy". That would take no more than 2-3 additional dialogue lines. Instead we got literally nothing

>>543684945
>It's bad writing
Yes, it's Yrliet, the worst written character Owlcat ever made, even somehow beating out Nenio.

>>543685150
>Both Malice and Yremeryss would be much better companions/allies than that.
lol sure

>>543684421
I'm not judging him. I would be calling owlkek writers retarded if he actually didn't demonstrate some sort of internal turmoil. Just saying that a snappy remark when a retard gives you unsolicited advice at a time like that does not mean he hates said retard

>>543684837
Time to rev up those torrents

I love it when Ulfar says it's Wolftime

>>543684732
>they really do show absolutely nothing in game about Jae disliking Kibellah
Once again, pay attention to the game instead of jerking off while you play

>>543684837
>Toybox exclusive
Nice, going to look like Saltzpyre in space.

Do people consider the eagle overseer good now? I remember people shitting on it when it came out.

>>543685839
doesn't matter since this patch broke it

>>543685581
I like how they get away with a ton of heretical warp bullshit while the thousand sons are vilifed very cool

>>543685150
>Nepo baby
No such thing in Drukhari culture, he explicitly goes over how hard he had to work to get to his position and how many he had to kill to keep it.
>Spends the game killing peasants
He lights most of your worlds on fire and you think he didn't kill many of its defenders in the process? I see you need things to be explicitly presented to you or they're not real, so this is probably a pointless conversation.
>Runs away from every single fight
He fights you multiple times and retreats when he's lost and, of course, the entire damn operation he's running is just a ruse so he can capture you and prove that you are colluding with his sister, (who was actually colluding with Calcazar) which he brilliantly succeeds at, since you do indeed end up captured by him.
>Gets outplayed
By Vect, yeah, who he didn't even realize was playing the game, but is it really that bad to lose to the absolute Lord of his entire race? That's like saying someone from the Imperium should feel bad about losing to the Emperor.
>His questline
His questline is just him figuring out what actually happened and who was really pulling the strings.
>Is a pariah
No, not really, he goes back depending on how things progress in his personal quest and becomes leader of his Kabal once more. Regardless he becomes an extremely successful Corsair or a Harlequin which only the best and strongest Eldar/Dark Eldar qualify for being in his endings, so I'm not seeing how you think him successfully escaping Commoragh reflects poorly on him.

And again, narratively there is plenty of reason to side with him when you meet him in Commoragh, so I really can't agree with your assessment at all.

>>543685581
vikangz n' shit

>>543685839
Nobody shitted on it. Eagle is pretty good

Reminder: Yrliet only "kills" the lusty lesbian voidswoman if you reply with
>What?! Fraternising with xenos is a severe heresy! Tell me this villain's name at once!
so don't act like you weren't going to execute the officer anyway in that situation.

>>543685704
I had both in my party the entire time during the last playthrough and Jae never really said shit indicating she hated Kibellah or the spinners. If you are going to say otherwise post a screenshot of the dialogue or something because I never saw it.

>>543685964
it's wasn't heretical if the emperor was okay with it before the HH
afterwards everyone used psykers again so it stopped mattering

>>543686180
Yrliet has no right to kill a crew member on the Rogue Traders ship. The Rogue Trader has every right to execute an Officer attempting to engage in sexual relations with a filthy xenos. You should know the difference between these two scenarios.

>>543686210
the jaefag will headcanon things that aren't there while ignoring stuff that is there

>>543686025
>He lights most of your worlds on fire and you think he didn't kill many of its defenders in the process?
>a dark eldar kills a regular human soldier
wow. very impressive. Also 2 worlds out of 5 is not most. Back to math class with you.
>He fights you multiple times
He literally doesn't. Try playing the game. The only time you fight him is on the arena
>No, not really, he goes back depending on how things progress
he goes back if you babysit him, and there is no reason to. If you don't babysit him he becomes a space hobo because nobody wants him in cumrag, so yeah, he's a pariah. You haven't given a single reason why he's supposedly so powerful that is supported by the game's narrative. You're just an inbecile who most likely haven't even played the game. Fuck off already, retard

>>543685964
All Magnus had to do was follow the explicit orders he was given, he has no one but himself to blame for how things turned out.

>>543686180
I have the right to kill criminals on my ship. She - doesn't.

>>543686412
>>543686716
Goalpost shifting

>>543674107
I just want at least 2 good looking women that aren't mentally ill schizos or camellias.

>>543686601
True, it just sucks that 99% of the legion are dust zombies now

>>543685150
>a nepo baby
Marz and Yremeryss are both trueborn. I don't know why you fags always act like Marz is a nepo baby. That's seen as a high honor in their society.
Yremeryss barely has a character and I don't know why you would think she would automatically be better because she has a pussy? Have you've seen her face.

>>543686412
>You should know the difference between these two scenarios.
Don't need to. I chose the normal option not the dogmatard option. So in my timeline the lesbian voidswoman is alive and well since what took place depends on what answer you give (owlcat style reactivity)

With this new rogue trader patch, is it fair to say Larian Won?

>>543687218
>Have you've seen her face.
cutest skull shape in the galaxy

>>543687331
Your AIsloppa isn't canon!

>new long-awaited crpg has been released
>people just talk about rogue trader
kinda funny ngl.

>>543687218
waifufags are retarded gooners yeah

>>543687446
like I've said cutest skull shape in the galaxy

>>543687271
the real thing to observe is expanse vs swen's next game

>>543686594
He's a Drukhari Dracon, if you do not understand what that is and how powerful he is as a result you are simply not familiar with 40K. Argenta and Ulfar combined could not kill him, and you think he's weak? You are just arguing nonsense at this point because you don't like the character. He is by definition in the lore of his setting extremely powerful and strong, and the fact that you feel the gameplay mechanics and sections with him in it did not sufficiently relate that to you changes nothing, and only shows your lack of understanding of both what's being portrayed in game and the character and setting in general.

And as for fighting him, you confront him twice in the lead up to getting abducted, he simply lets his disposable chaff fight you instead since he doesn't actually want you dead, which is why he refrains from personally fighting you, since the entire operation is a setup for you to be captured and prove his theory that his sister is working with mon'keigh so he can displace her as leader of their Kabal. Did you even pay attention to any of the dialogue going over this?

He earns his place as Dracon again depending on how things progress, and if he doesn't he becomes the outright leader of his own band of Corsairs or a Harlequin. If you think that means he's "weak" you again understand nothing about the setting. I agree that we're done here since you have said nothing of value and have only proved you know nothing about 40K or Marazhai as a character, probably because you never bothered actually engaging with his character on even a single playthrough.

>>543687231
She's not alive. You just don't know that she's dead

>>543687554
Your slop forgot her blind eye

>>543687579
No one here cares about the expanse

>>543687490
literally not a crpg

>>543686956
How is it "goalpost shifting" when the original discussion was about Yrliet killing a crew member, which she absolutely did? If xenos should be executed for arbitrarily killing your crew, she's as deserving of death as Marazhai is. Maybe moreso, since Yrliet straight up kills a bridge officer, a far more valuable commodity.

>>543687446
She has a cute character model

>>543687490
Nobody wanted TCR's Bloodlines 2.

>>543687579
Swen giving us a space elf girl who puts out will make them win by default

>>543687579
If Larians game has actual aliens, it automatically wins over Owlcats game from the get go. And it will, because Swen is one of us.

>>543687814
>Owlcat's Playdoh
>cute

>>543687490
>VTMB2
>Long awaited
>CRPG

>>543687490
I don't even hate the game but it's not a crpg

>>543688167
Not his daughter. Go back.

>>543688167
clementia has a portrait?

>>543688316
New update

>>543688316
Clementia, Abel, Malice, and Colonel Mustard got portraits today

>>543688248
>>543688041
>>543687782
Did they change the genre? The first one was a crpg

>>543688474
Yes. The game is as much a CRPG as a mario platformer is.

Why did they make Malice so sexy if you can't make him your sex mercenary?

>>543688474
Bloodlines 2 is not related to Bloodlines at all aside from the setting and name
its like a telltale game mashed with an adventure game with brief shitty combat sequences

>>543688474
Its a action game and walking simulator now

>>543688474
The original sequel devs were either scamming paradox or so wildly incompetent that they cancelled the game completely and had another studio make their own VTM game with the Bloodlines 2 name slapped on.

>>543688368
>>543688461
Oh shit nice
Too bad she looks mad ugly

What are the chances that Dark Heresy gives us at least one non-humiliation ritual attractive romancable female? Idc if she's human or xenos, just no strings attached, normal non-emasculating romance.

>>543689071
zero, the owlcat fanbase would call it boring

>>543689071
Don't worry anon. Through your mental illness you'll always find some way to humiliate yourself.

>>543689148
Nobody calls cassia's romance boring

>>543689071
touch grass

>>543689071
Zero. It's Owlcat after all.

>>543689071
if there is one, it'll be dlc

>>543689195
>cassia
>attractive

>>543689352
yes, I do

>>543689195
Cassias romance only happened because Owlcat thought it was sufficiently fucked up that she's a Navigator mutant, not realizing they didn't make the mutations severe enough to matter. That, plus she leaves you in most of her endings, yes I know she has one where she doesn't, but it's funny that in the majority of her endings, the relationship fails.

>>543689071
Define 'non-humilation ritual ' for me

>>543689412
Wilcer doesn't count

>>543689162
I wouldn't all it mental illness. More like, the magic of /crpgg/.

>>543689071
She'll either flirt with others while you're dating her, "find herself" in-between chapters, or leave to get impregnated by someone else in the epilogue
Take your pick

In bloodlines 2, this article: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/how-to-raise-clan-affinity-in-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2/1100-6535542/ says you can raise your clan affinity if you do side-quests. Is that actually true? Looks to me like clan affinities are just discipline overlaps from your chosen clan with other clans abilities?

>>543689448
She has a ex boyfriend and no child ending. Thats the "humiliation"

>>543689714
>Looks to me like clan affinities are just discipline overlaps from your chosen clan with other clans abilities?
I only just unlocked sidequests (killed my first boss) but it also looked that way to me yeah, dunno what that stuff in the article is about

>>543689448
Just normal realtionship, maybe it has hurdles and flaws you overcome, but just a generally healthy relationship without bullshit like:
No Yrliet style, you're a disgusting monkey I won't touch you shit, no Jae having an orgy on your ship and talking about how she lusted after her ex and glazing him up while with you, no cuckoldry in ending slides ala Cassia if she went Duty, no Camellia or interacting with members of Arue's sexual past, Octavia open relationship etc.
Idc about children in epilogue, idc about her not being a shy tradwife virgin or whatever. Just someone that has a healthy romance (both attracted to each other, both respectful, doesn't involve flaunting romantic interest in others, no open relationships, not a vapid slut with a sexual history that is longer than our planet's history and brags about it, no sex denial) Just two people in a normal relationship that may have some obstacles and hardship, but no humiliating cuckshit.
Is what I'm asking evil?

>>543689448
>She's conventionally attractive without any severe physical flaws or defects
>She's a virgin with no previous partners
>She's young
>She stays with you happily through the whole relationship all the way to the ending slides

There, that would be all that's required.

>>543689071
They already did that with the twins, salad, galfrey, and kibbelah. So since they've done it every single one of their games, there's no reason to assume they would change that policy suddenly.

I swear you guys have selective memory.

>>543690203
It's pretty evil that you don't want her to be a virgin and shy, yeah, those qualities are essential.

>>543689593
In the same way that jonestown was a transcendent experience sure

>>543690264
Just a couple normal things, sure.
>young unsoiled virgin just for me
I guess it is fiction

>Astra Militarum is still once per combat
AIIEEEEE. Are las weapons good now that they get +20 and +40% RoF behind cover? I want to run a shooty build but dunno whether I should go for the heavy bolter.

>>543690264
You will never get this again, you should stop playing games

>>543690447
the twins and kibbelah are DLC and the other 2 aren't owlcat characters so they didn't really do much there

>>543690264
It's funny how technically Galfrey fits all these boxes

>>543690583
>Are las weapons good now
The fuck do you mean now
They're burst fire weapons, they've the best weapon type in the game
>sneedy chucker
Every burst weapon is the same, heavy bolter is nothing special since base damage doesn't matter

She needs to be a young cute virgin! Same mindset as Chris Chan back in the day lol

>>543690645
>aren't owlcat characters
They are for all intents and purposes.
AP Nyrissa is a crazy nutjob you cannot do anything but kill in the original

>>543690264
>>She's a virgin with no previous partners
I don't even care if she's a virgin or young, just not a slut that was the town bike and that she doesn't flaunt her previous pratner to your face, the rest I agree with

>>543690447
Kalikke was not a virgin and openly brags about her sexual experience. Nyrissa was a genocidal maniac who slaughtered hundreds of thousands, and hundreds of your own people. Imagine some poor five year old girl being ripped apart by a portal opening inside her body because she had the temerity to drink water in the Barons land. Any Baron that didn't execute her for her unforgivable crimes is a disgrace to his lands and his people. Galfrey was a hag. Kibellah is a sadomasochistic lunatic more devoted to her cult than she is to you who gives up your offspring into said cult rather than raising them together with you. Your assertions are false and have been summarily rejected, try again.

>>543690724
Her, Kibbles, and the twins are the best in their games because they have some combination of those where the other girls are usually entirely bereft of any of those qualities.

>>543690737
>fuck do you mean now
Las weapons were hard outperformed by solid projectile weapons for a very long time. The Ripper is your best gun in act 1 and you move onto the heavy bolter in act 2. The improved heavy bolter is the BiS heavy weapon in the game.

>>543689887
It's also the only reference I can find to being able to raise your affinity. I guess they got confused with "affinity" also being a word that means that someone likes you.
Ah well, I guess we buy the abilities at full price. It's not that bad, most abilities don't exactly blow my tits of.

>>543690724
So does Kibbelah and the twins from kingmaker. There is a romance for these criteria in every single owlcat game. This meme has gotten out of control and people are under the effects of the mandela effect.

>>543690737
Wouldn't;'t the second highest RoF make it more special then?

>>543690969
>Galfrey good
>twins good
what a low bar

>>543690858
Don't post about things you know nothing of, dude. That guy wanted anything but what was conventional and normal.

>>543690982
>The improved heavy bolter is the BiS heavy weapon in the game.
The best weapon in the game is the autocannon if you want to talk like a faggot actually, like I said base damage doesn't matter and autocannons have the highest firerate

>>543690968
>Kalikke was not a virgin and openly brags about her sexual experience.
you can't even tell them apart
>>543690995
>So does Kibbelah and the twins from kingmaker
>have to pay extra for normal romances
I don't see how you can deny them having preferences for damaged goods and only reluctantly adding decent women.

>>543690969
Arue ticks all but one box

>>543690447
>kebab
>conventionally attractive
lol

>>543691184
>reluctantly
>twins added 2 /1/2 months after release
You act like they designed the characters after release and outrcy of fans instead of something they were working for a while to keep a season pass alive

>>543690724
>shitfrey
>young

>micropatches isn't working so the game is unplayable (its unplayable unmodded)
Bummer

>>543691146
>>Galfrey good
Galfrey is great.
>>twins good
Turns out nothing is better than something on this front with owlcuck.
>>543691212
lol>>543691364
>instead of something they were working for a while to keep a season pass alive
so reluctantly. glad we're in agreement.

>>543691434
>so reluctantly. glad we're in agreement.
No, we are not you retard.
They were clearly in development before release, not something they had to do cause fans disliked existing cast.
Learn how to read

>>543690203
>Is what I'm asking evil?
Apparently, it's ok for women to post how they want X, but if incels do it they're bad.
There are women who's fetish was Marazhai and shat on Jimmy, Tristian etc. everyone was like whatever, maybe said they had shit taste and moved on (that last one was probably other femcels), but when men have a type it's a crime.

>>543691434
>Galfrey is great.

>>543691184
You lacking the skill set to discern Kalikke and Kanerah when it's blatantly obvious which is which is not my problem.

>>543691212
What? No, she doesn't. She's not a virgin and she's not young.

>>543691398
Well yes?
Do you care about actual lived years instead of youthful appearance?
>>543691641
She only kissed once.
Or does that make her unclean?

>>543691541
They have almost no content. I'm not surprised it only took a few weeks to churn out.
>>543691629
Yes and?
>>543691641
>You lacking the skill set to discern Kalikke and Kanerah when it's blatantly obvious which is which is not my problem.
You're the one lacking discernment here.
>She's not a virgin
Case in point.

>>543691710
>Do you care about actual lived years instead of youthful appearance?
Yes. Her dried upbarren claptrap is of no interest to me

>>543691737
>They have almost no content. I'm not surprised it only took a few weeks to churn out.
You are 100% retarded, got it.
I guess romance obsessed fags are like that

>>543691858
Anon the argument that they were working on them before release makes it even worse that they have no content.

>>543691710
Yes, obviously. Part of the whole charm of youth is its innocence, if you've lived for so long you obviously lose that aspect of it.

>>543691737
So good that she sends you to hell and you love it for a ounce of pussy

>>543691797
>staying young forever with magic means
>dried upbarren clap
?

>>543690990
Lasombra is fun, you CC everyone and run around and shit, I like it

The overseer exemplar talents seem pretty shit

>>543691961
They have the same amount of personal quest events.
They lack on interjections/camp banter, but still have them (roughly half). Kanerah has the same amount of romance events, Kallike is the one who lacks it

The meme exaggerations have become facts at this point, I guess

>>543691584
I mean I'm a woman and I see nothing wrong with what >>543690203 wrote, that's just reasonable and the standard I use too.

>>543692009
I was going there anyway. Compared to the two cannibals and the meatball fucker her misstep is tame and the rest of her far outweighs it.

>>543692309
It's really bizarre that there are actually people who like Galfrey as a character, as she's written in Owlcats version, anyway. She's a much better character in the actual Paizo AP.

>>543692114
overseer is shit

>>543692309
Being the least stinky shit in the local latrine isn't really a win you think it is. wotr simply has extremely shit wiafus, the shittest in all of crpgs

>>543692443
Skill issue

>>543692114
Overseer is bad and stinky.

>>543692462
except Galfrey*
>>543692434
Like the other guy said it's really the best of a bad bunch scenario but really what's so bad about her? She is genuinely righteous and when you come back genuinely remorseful.

Do you realize there's people out there who don't think about cuckoldry for weeks, months, years even?
People who are only vaguely aware of it because it came up somehow, and then they moved on to fill their heads with other things, as one would the mention of some historical fact?

>>543692114
They will certainly keep the familiar alive in most cases. but yeah, nothing amazing

>>543692462
What even IS worse, romance wise? Veilguard? I didn't play it so I can't say for sure.

>>543692592
Some blissful people don't know about it at all.

>>543692041
I'm Brujah, the first boss gets deleted without getting a hit in with the abilities.

>>543692954
Did anyone like Deadfire's?

>>543676317
>Ideally no cap at all

Just play an RTS, that's clearly what you want.
Ideal party size is 3 BTW though I will accept 4 grudgingly. I don't play with 6 characters even in Baldur's Gate games.

>>543692515
Skill issue

>>543692580
She's not charming or fun in any way shape or form.

>>543693041
Xoti's was not that offensive. Maia's definitely was. Tekehu is good if you want to dunk of fishtits.

>>543693108
Yes it is a skill issue if you use Overseer.

>>543692954
Veilguard romance was boring but fine for the most part

>>543693116
she cute (CUTE)

>>543693041
Yes. I liked the schizo elf
>>543692954
Maybe. I haven't played it, but from everything I've heard it's pretty shit, which is surprising since inquisition was pretty good in that regard

>>543693190
Why would you even know this is teh real question

>>543686025
He is a dracon and those are leaders of trueborn squads. Trueborn are called that because they came out of a woman's snatch and only wealthy ones do that. Everyone else is grown in a tube.

>>543692501
>thing that does nothing (no, it's not good because psykers and officers are good) is le good actually
no

>>543691584
>when men have a type it's a crime.

Women unironically get extremely upset any time they realize men do sexual selection too and aren't just walking dildos.

>>543693361
>second archetype meaningfully enhances first archetype or origin with its features
>DOES NOT COUNT ABLOBLOOBLOO
Where do these contrarian shitters even come from?

>>543693473
From actually playing the game and seeing how Overseer is underwhelming usually.

>>543693270
Some men forage and adventure in dark, dark places not meant for the sane, so that we do not have to.

>>543693473
see>>543693361

>>543693473
He's not wrong though, Overseer is a very underwhelming class and they clearly wanted to do more with it but scrapped it, which is why the pointless upgrades are still in the game. Gameplay wise you're better off going with just about any other archetype, even if you can make Overseer work it's just not worth it compared to the alternatives. Absolute failure compared to Bladedancer and Executioner.

>>543693558
You are barely a step up from the retard who claimed Abelard and Yrliet were more powerful than the psyker companions.

>>543693771
I'm glad you were able to beat easy mode with your heckin good pupperino.

>>543693771
You could argue Abelard with Malpian Shroud, properly built, IS stronger than the psyker companions, though. He's unkillable and puts out unbelievable amounts of damage, built properly, Abelard is easily one of the strongest three companions in the game, and maybe #1 overall now that Bladedancer got slammed into the dirt.

>dogchungus of le no damage
>eaglechungus of gets le oneshot if you use it's ability
>ravenchungus of "gives psyker better AoE and nothing else"
>skullchungus of "officer but more extra turns and that's it you used your entire second archetype on this"
so true

>>543693906
Yeah, cause RT is the one game that needs really optimal builds o go through unfair in the first place.
Overseer gives very strong options for builds, and excluding officer arbitrarily only makes you sound like a retard.
Try actually playing instead of copying 'BROKEN EXECUTIONER BUILD' clickbait videos on youtube

>>543681020
Iconoclast is the cuck leftist alignment. Kindness, mercy, empathy, and hope are fucking retarded in 40k, much more so than IRL. The Imperium is all that stands between humanity and extinction. It has lasted, unchanging, for over 10,000 years because it works. Like Law in Wrath, dogmatism is the only pragmatic path. All the so called cruelty serves a purpose. Lower caste Imperials are oppressed because that is literally the only way to combat heretics. This is a numbers game, so the 20 hour workdays are standard to optimize human resources and keep their thoughts from wandering to chaos. When a worker's output starts to dip in their 30s, they're thrown into the processor to be ground up into more food for the other workers. It's extremely efficient, and has to be, for the enemies the Imperium faces are numerous and dangerous. Shooting xenos and mutants on sight is because there was not a single (1) xeno who did not turn around and stab humanity in the back during the age of strife. There has not been a single xeno race who has not been massively genocidal towards humanity, to the point that they would rather annihilate themselves than share a galaxy with humankind. Like conservatives, dogmatists are the only ones who grapple with the world as is rather than try to force it to be what it is not. Even more so than the real world, in 40k, things will never get better, but they can get worse.

>>543694059
>Overseer gives very strong options for builds
correction, >>543693361
>Try actually playing instead of copying 'BROKEN EXECUTIONER BUILD' clickbait videos on youtube
Hey that's my schtik

>>543694059
Overseer can work but are you really going to try to argue that it's better than literally any other option?

>>543693947
Because Heinrix is not also unkillable plus extra psyker bullshit with teh shroud.
Though Abelard definitely became stronger with this update instead of b being relatively bottom, so that is good

>>543694059
>Overseer gives very strong options for builds
lol

>>543694124
Just ignore the conviction schisms, go Glorious and live a great life for yourself, genuinely the best option possible in 40K. And in the real world, too, for that matter.

>>543694124
The imperium is getting mogged 24/7 from all sides

>>543694338
Yeah, and it would be 100 times worse if the Imperium was not around.

>>543694429
>The Imperium would be 100x worse if the Imperium wasn't around
Interesting if true

>>543673578 (OP)
With the announcement of RT's big 1.5 doing some epilogue fixing, don't forget to send feedback so they deal with dumb shit like our character dying of old age way before a RT normally would or all our companions just acting like we don't exist anymore or my boy Pasqal having no good ending.
Seems they already plan to fix Yrilet.

>>543694508
I don't care about owlcrap's headcanon, I make up my own ending based on how I think it'd happen, just like how I did with wotr

>>543690968
> Any Baron that didn't execute her for her unforgivable crimes is a disgrace to his lands and his people.
Yeah but she got rid of Linzi for you, which forgives a lot.

>>543691434
>Galfrey is great.
Shame her relationship is stupidly Mythic Path-locked for no reason.

>>543694124
>Kindness, mercy, empathy, and hope are fucking retarded in 40k
Nah it's only retarded when extending that to fucking Drukeks, Genestealers, other violent xenos and Chaos. There would be less chaos cults and sedition if the system was kinder and less needlessly (keyword needlessly) cruel to it's citizens. See why the rabble in lower decks joined genestealers, because they were abused constantly and their lives were shit they didn't even have the bare minimum that could be spared.

>>543690203
>no Jae having an orgy on your ship
That doesn't happen if you romanced her.

>>543694508
>my boy Pasqal having no good ending
He does have a good ending.

>>543694904
It does because it's a part of Cassia's event regradless of if you'e romancing her

>>543692434
Apparently the only reason is because shes a virgin

>>543694904
Still happens unless they blocked that in a recent patch. It's clear the writers don't talk to each other as it happens during Cassia's event.

>>543694698
too little too late

>>543694745
I mean neutral good to lawful evil is a pretty wide range.

I wanna smooch her.

>>543694124
>The alignement that just wins and doesn't shit itself and self mutilate in terror of chaos and 3 retarded cultists are the real cucks!
Keep screaming for your reddit atheist daddy emperor to help you as he hate you for being a christcuck.

>>543694124
>All the so called cruelty serves a purpose.
Hunting workers for sport serves a purpose?

>>543694969
>>543695005
Nah, if you romance her, they were just playing poker and Jae was scamming them, at least that's how it was when I played on release.

>>543694904
yes it do

>>543694124
>there was not a single (1) xeno who did not turn around and stab humanity in the back during the age of strife
proofs?

>>543694124
>dogmatists are the only ones who grapple with the world as is
They literally think the God Emperor wanted the exact opposite of what he actually wanted and are convinced of shit about the Big E's days that are factually wrong and get them looked down on by the Primarchs and Big E himself. They are no better than Chaos worshippers in terms of getting everything wrong and trying to please entities that hate them.

>>543695630
Most Xenos weren't even around for the Age of Strife and from the lore we saw it was more humanity getting hit by stray bullets from other conflicts than every xenos actually trying to exterminate them. As shown by all the humans were chill with successful xeno alliances after the warpstorms cut off and isolated most of the Imperium.

>>543695481
No, that is the "orgy" scene. It wasn't just poker it was strip poker. She'll sheepishly admit that. And I'd know because it romanced her first and got the "only me and you" scene with her and this happens because I forgot to do Cassia's quest.

>>543694597
Why play the game at all then? Just write your own at that point, that'll be more productive than making up new endings to make up for the crap ones without actually even telling the devs what would be a better ending when they ask.

>>543696000
Because it's a game, not a story

>>543695873
>No, that is the "orgy" scene.
Calling that an orgy is a massive stretch. It's like when people were insisting Cassia had NO good ending and always left you to marry another dude just because they fucked up her romance like retards.

>>543694124
Are you the guy who was proudly saying 40k is the darkest fiction ever

>>543694698
I would never forgive the horrible murder of my loyal curator and chronicler.

>>543696137
It's a CRPG, 90% of the fucking game is reading.

I ship them.

>>543696170
Well that's how it goes. She was still getting involved sexually with other people. Owlcat's writing team just needs to talk more.

>>543696408
Where?

>>543696408
>xe romances lann
Femcel, explain yourself

It's funny how palis tend to get all the pussy in other games/settings (even if they can't act on it because of courtly love and celibacy tropes), but in WotR, they're too lawtist for it, to the point they scare off everyone else despite their CHA scores.

Lann gives me the ick

>>543694124
>Bro, just trust me, bro, you NEED to make the guys in charge of maintaining your super advanced lost tech ship into retarded starving illiterate mongoloids who can't even understand what you're saying, that's how you defeat Chaos, bro

>>543692954
As shitty as Owlcat's cuck situation is, they have yet to top Bioware's Isabela or Jacob on that front (outside of going for quantity, I guess)

Anyone here played Black Geyser? If so, would you say it's more similar to PoE or to BG1 and 2?

bros I'm bored
I think I'm gonna play vtmb

>>543696408
Who the fuck recruits Lann instead of Wenduag?
>>543693258
>since inquisition was pretty good in that regard
Inquisition literally has a romance where she start talking about the dead love of her life just after you got done fucking.

>>543696789
What clan. Im thinking about playing it again

i can't believe my spider girl got LANNED
then HOSILLA'D
then wants to be DAERANED
and WOLJIFED

>>543696789
2*

>>543696869
>Inquisition literally has a romance where she start talking about the dead love of her life just after you got done fucking.
So don't do that one? Who's forcing you?

>>543696869
>Who the fuck recruits Lann instead of Wenduag?
Anyone who think they need bodies to throw against demons. No one non-retarded will ever take Wenduag.

>>543696943
>It's one of the heterosexual romance options

>>543696901
I want to be Daeraned and Woljied

>>543696760
>Anyone here played Black Geyser?
I did. It was okay.
I'd say PoE but I never finished that game because I missed a companion's quest and ragequit so I could be wrong.
>>543681020
>some dick nameless rogue trader woke up on the wrong side of the bed
Still one of the worst endings alongside Yrilet's, especially since it happened to me with Jae romanced so what the fuck was my RT doing?

>>543697014
>one of
Glad we agree that no one's forcing you

>>543696943
>So don't do that one? Who's forcing you?
You said it did good. This is an exemple of it being shit. Use your brain.
>Just don't eat the shit in your soup, it's still a good soup!

>>543697247
And it's not the only romance in the game. Looks like you should follow your own advice and start using that brain, if you have any, which at this point I seriously doubt

>>543696984
>Only a retard would do something that work!
Sounds like you're just mad you made the wrong choice.

>>543696897
toreador

>>543696656
what is the art from

>>543697392
>The bleach in the soup isn't the entire soup!
It's still the game being bad on that front. Thus your claim is still wrong.

Now that the dust has settled I think that Bioware's system of approval wasn't that bad. It's definitely better than whatever owlsharts have. You can at least piss your companions off enough to engage in fisticuffs with them. And the conversation with them changes depending on their approval of you

>>543697762
>Now that the dust has settled I think that Bioware's system of approval wasn't that bad.
Which one? They had multiple ones through multiple games.

The one singular retard who likes the universally hated garbage that was Inquisition is having a tantrum again?

>>543693270
I like to form an opinion on things by playing them myself

>>543698069
Yes

>>543697762
No, it's bad because you're ultimately gamifying it as you're now attaching numbers to it. Though it's more on not much that is given to it.
>Be polite to someone - Morrigan -5
>Pawn her off to her mother or betray her - Morrigan -25
This puts into equation that basically stabbing her in the back is just equals to annoying her 5 times. This isn't hard numbers from the game but anyone who's played it could sense it. Then exacerbated by the fact that you can just give them gifts to bring those numbers up.
Companion approval/hate is nice but putting them on a line isn't.

>>543681020
Iconochads keep winning.

>>543697090
What kind of system does it use? Does it have spell slots?

>>543697507
based

>>543698218
You can fix relationships with women by giving them jewelry just like in real life

>>543697948
It's the same system through out all of their games, anon, don't be daft. You companions either approve or disapprove depending on your action. And additional dialogue and interactions open up depening on your standing

>>543698218
>Then exacerbated by the fact that you can just give them gifts to bring those numbers up.
I liked that, that way I could have them like me without having to kiss their asses 24/7.
The DLC where you could mass buy gifts was too much tho, it broke the whole thing.

>>543698218
It's better than no system at all like in owlshart where companions don't react at all to what you're doing aside from an occasional remark

I keep shipping them.

>>543696531
I don't know how it happened, he just burst into my tent and said he wants to protect me and I just said something like you can count on me too. Is he really that desperate for female attention.

>>543698458
DA2 had a friendship / rivalry system where the extreme of both sides would be equally good, meanwhile DAO's like / dislike had dislike be purely negative.
It's quite different.

>>543698479
>The DLC where you could mass buy gifts was too much tho, it broke the whole thing.
I was mainly referring to this. Finding random knickknacks to gift them was nice especially if they have special reactions to them. Though again, this falls into the same quantifying issue where giving her a mirror is enough to counteract something terrible you've done.
>>543698629
Well I just said it's bad, flawed really, but not worse.

>>543698069
goty btw

>>543698742
>where giving her a mirror is enough to counteract something terrible you've done.
Just like in real life honestly.

>>543698742
Of course it's flawed. It just needs to be improved and developed more. The DA2 version specifically which was the best itteration of it

>>543698635
>I don't know how it happened, he just burst into my tent
You picked the wrong line during conversation earlier
>Is he really that desperate for female attention.
Yes. Man knew nothing but rank wendog puss

>>543694124
The most famous and powerful Primarch in the setting is an Iconoclast character,Guilliman makes frequent political choices that would've him killed if he wasn't the literal son of Empy and would be viewed as Heretical.
The invasion of Nurgle into Ultramar is basically gorilla making the same choice that we can make on the lower decks to fight off the growing Nurgle corruption with things like medicine,rations and keeping the whole place less shitty. Radical choice is just ignoring the whole problem

Gonna play Rogue Trader for the first time. Is Astra Militarum Commander + Officer a functional idea, since they just got buffed today with patch 1.5? I'm mostly wondering just how much shooting is possible for officer builds. Do they normally spend all their AP on other things? Is a hybrid build viable? Playing on Daring btw.

>>543699406
>Is Astra Militarum Commander + Officer a functional idea, since they just got buffed today with patch 1.5?
Not sure with post-patch but before that, it was pretty redundant.

>>543699374
It would have been cheaper if he just killed everyone. The only reason that chaos got a foothold is due to the moral failing of the community.

>>543699580
>The only reason that chaos got a foothold is due to the moral failing of the community.
Weird how they didn't have moral failing problems after his intervention, almost like Dogmafags fucked it up.

>>543699406
Psyker is still king. It gives you the most power, flexibility, and roleplay. Officer is a great job choice no matter the background.

>>543699580
>It would have been cheaper if he just killed everyone.
Killing everyone would have given their souls to Chaos, making it stronger, which is not cheaper.

>>543699406
>Do they normally spend all their AP on other things?
They usually have some spare for a little shooting of their own.
As for your specific Astra Militarum Commander + Officer combo it would probably be pretty good after the patch. Try it and see.

So the Noble origin wasn't changed?

>>543699374
Guiliman is one of the weakest primarchs, at least when it comes to fighting. What makes him dangerous is that he's an extremely adaptable jack-of-all-trades and had a good childhood.

>>543699997
>had a good childhood
truly the greatest buff

>>543699723
I don't want to go full meta, I just want decent enough for Daring.
>>543699881
I'm trying it now. I just want to be a lore-accurate high fellowship leader rogue trader, but still shoot guns decently as well.

>>543700114
>I don't want to go full meta, I just want decent enough for Daring.
You literally faceroll daring. Game has zero challenge, your build doesn't matter and you can't go wrong

The Emperor would execute almost all Dogmafags for the severe crime worshiping him as a god. Yes even Argenta (imagine the look on her face)
He would also execute most Iconotards as dangerous revolutionaries.
Chaos worshippers are all to be killed of course
But certain other "heretics" so-called for committing minor crimes or for disbelieving in the Imperial Creed would be pardoned. Especially those whose only "crime" is declaring that the Emperor is a man not a god (which is the Emperor's own official position on the matter)

>>543700114
Also, what skills would be best for an officer that can still shoot. I have Fellowship and Ballistic skill, but should the third be Willpower, Agility, or Perception? Or something else?

I know its slop but
It could be a lot worse right?

>>543700326
Feels like some Chinese kusoge character portrait tbhdesu. I suppose it'd look small enough to not be an issue.

>>543700315
Iconokeks would be executed first for secession. You don't have a foot to stand on in this argument.

>>543700326
Looks like a faggot

>>543700319
All officer skills are support only. What you want are talents. Just read them, they are self-explainatory. Officers don't have too many offesive talents

>>543700438
>Iconokeks would be executed first for secession
why would He kill his blue smurf son?

>>543700326
Its salvageable but may be better to just find a pose in a new piece of existing art and then modifying it with AI.

>>543700478
Atleast it fits the rest of the game then

the emperor is gay
taxation is theft
dogma more like ligma
i'm seceding

>>543700831
HOLY BASED SINDRIAN DIKTAT

>>543700701
You relly don't know anything about the setting do you, and are just parroting memes you've seen on the internet. He doesn't care about his "sons". They are but tools to him. And unification and total domination of humanity is his ultimate goal. He absolutely would kill his retarded son and he absolutley would kill any other retard playing at independance.

>>543700438
What argument?
I agree Iconodweebs would be executed for subversion.
So would Dogmatards right along side them
The only ones with a chance are common but harmless criminals like Jae and the occasional very rare atheist dogmatard

>>543700326
>anime in a non-anime game
you should kill yourself

>>543701094
>He doesn't care about his "sons". They are but tools to him
He outright says this when the reawakened Guilleman talks to him at the start of the current era M42.
>unification and total domination of humanity is his ultimate goal.
True but he's only doing that for the good of mankind. He lacks all personal ambition at this point. In fact he pretty much is the god of mankind.

>>543700831
Based

>>543700326
The future looks entirely like mobile game ads and porn

>>543701094
I find it funny that both chaosfags and cringe big E fags like you end up on the same zealous spectrum where emps is some demon bent on destruction rather than elevation.

>>543700319
Just read the talents as you go and see which ones look good and what characteristics they synergise with.
Perception is a good one for what you want I believe. But you don't want to outright dump anything.

Big E would seethe and be jealous of me and my superior Iconoclast Imperium.

You don’t understand bro the cosmic rape machine is necessary for the future of humanity

>>543673578 (OP)
Wooooooooooow

No fucking way

I randomly clicked a “what to,play after Bg3” video and this was the top recommendation. In fact I’m watching a review of it by a guy that 100%’ed it right at this moment

This must be fucking fate

But is the game fully voiced?

>OWLCAT OWLCAT OWLCAT OWLCAT
I have Owlcat fatigue

Emperor = Julius Caesar
Guilleman = Augustus

>>543701980
Okay hold on disregard this post

As I watch more of the review, I noticed there are a lot of black characters

Larping is very cringe btw.

>stuck in character creator again
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>543687624
Well no he doesn't fight me because he doesn't want to end up dead. Which is understandable. I wouldn't want to fight someone that always goes first and makes a near infinite amount of attacks with a heavy-rocksaw

>>543701459
I think you lack any reading comprehension whatsoever, so stick to vidya

>>543687624
>Argenta and Ulfar combined could not kill him,
As a side note this fight was way harder than Calcazar or the Ctan by a ridiculous margin.

>>543687624
Ok Yrliet I'm sorry I insulted your boyfriend

>>543704045
It was interesting to be on the receiving end of my own OP bullshit for once.

>>543701094
>>You relly don't know anything about the setting do you, and are just parroting memes you've seen on the internet. He doesn't care about his "sons".
>You realise you have always been afraid of what you thought He was, not what He actually is. You hope His silence indicates that He has reached a similar conclusion. It is time for Him to be afraid of you.
> Perhaps He’s choosing his words carefully–
>+You have killed my son.+
>So now He speaks. It was clearly the shock that rendered Him dumb. Yes, father. I have. I have nothing to hide. The body is there for all to see. Consider it a statement of my intent.
>You feel a pang of regret. If Sanguinius had not been quite so defiant, if he had not been quite so Sanguinius, well, then this moment would have been more satisfying.
>I offered him a place beside me,’ you say, with a note of sadness that is quite authentic. ‘I didn’t want to kill him. He could have stood at my side, just as you can stand at my side. But he refused, to my regret. His refusal made his death necessary. It was my only recourse. I know you understand, father. You are an entirely rational man. I inherited my rationality from you. Poor Sanguinius, his execution was the only rational–’
>+You have killed my son.+
>What is this? Is His trauma so deep that He can do nothing but repeat Himself? Why is He not listening?
>Be silent,’ you tell him. ‘My father and I have business to discuss.’
> +Why?+
>What a strange question. What is it that your father doesn’t understand?
>‘You ask me why?’ you say. ‘Why what?’
>+Why?+
>I think you have suffered too great a shock, father,’ you say gently. ‘You are not making sense. What are you asking me? Why did I kill the Angel? Or why do I offer–’
>+Why?+

>>543704045
>I managed to get myself killed in every reality
>lol, lmao we killed you all, dumb bitched
This was genuinely funny
I wonder what determines the deeds of reflections.

>>543704045
>That fight
>Hard
They got a turn for you?

>>543704045
I genuinely don't even remember that fight since I asked both Cassia and Jae to tell me to kill everyone and I did.

>>543704658
Not everybody plays on story mode

>huge amounts of crying from shitters in the steam comments for the patch notes because of insignificant bladedancer nerfs
why don't these mouthbreathers just play on the lowest difficulty if winning without any effort is so important?

>>543704658
maybe your guy is built bitch-made but mine were as slippery as an eel in oil. couldn't land a melee attack on them to save my life and I have the boots that kick on parry. between my gear and the nerfs this morning it was rough.

>>543704624
I didn't like how Ulfar contemplated siding with the Righteous Reflection
Didn't he see how they all just assembled themselves out of profane necron metal?

is unfair difficulty any different after the 1.5 patch?

>>543704805
Lowest difficulty is too hard for them

>>543704906
You've got it messed up. Realities were merging. Those were alternate universe (You)'s not constructs.

>>543704906
It's just a dumb scene, an amusing one, still dumb. I feel like this was an idea that they really wanted to do and it would've 100% worked with Chaos but with Necrons it just feels contrived.

Yrliet has a dress now (but she only wears it when Marazhai is around)

>>543704968
need a mongoloid mode for the fellas filtered by story mode

>>543705028
That may be what the writing said but those guys very clearly assembled themselves out of floating bits of metal like replicators in stargate.

>>543704968
LMAOOOOO

>>543704045
is anything in that box voiced

>>543705128
>Farseer robes
>Can't even cast spells
Hm

>>543705316
small chaos warband, plz understand.

Officer is the true chad class

>>543704045
Aren't you the guy who killed turdliet? But you left maraturd alive?

>>543705128
>dumb whore gets a dress before I do
WHERE IS MY PRETTY DRESS FOR THE PARTY I WAS PROMISED? JANRIIIIIIIIIISSSS!!!!!!

>>543705432
At least Marazhai puts out

>>543705432
marz doesn't betray you once you bring him in line. he doesn't even call you a monkey.

>>543705432
It’s okay when men fuck me

>>543704906
He's already fighting for your profane ass xenofucker, so siding with a righteous reflection might be an improvement

>>543705128
She really is a titlet isn't she

>>543682551
>Narratively why wouldn't you keep him around?

Because he's a fucking DRUKHARI. Drukhari are literally the most evil things in the universe. Every one of them should be killed on sight just for being what they are.

>>543705569
Please understand Rogue Trader, combat oriented dresses will only be invented in M43.

>>543705592
that makes him automatically better

>>543705791
not to worry lad. I've got my papers in order.

>>543705791
Well in the meantime you're stuck in the universe's crawlspace. You can't kill them all so might as well make use of him

>>543705745
Yep. Most eldar women have big tits and fat asses because they are a more advanced race than humans. Yrliet is unusually skinny and unfeminine which contributed to her being an outcast among the others of her kind.

>>543706303
>Most eldar women have big tits
>posts a titlet

>>543704765
I play on unfair, not that there is really any difference.
>>543704821
That doesn't matter. Just a couple buffs and you'd have had a 100% chance to hit.

I was a little bored with Heavy-Rocksaw soldier at that point so I believe I let my companions take care of the clones. I think Idira's Psychic Assault did about 1000 damage. I do think any of my companions except Jae or Pascal could have cleared it though. Maybe Solomourne as well. I don't use him enough though.

What elemental bloodline for bloodrager?

>>543706402
Not enough for you? Try these

>>543706585
that's armor, no evidence of actual tits underneath. could even be a man

Marz would have been more readily recruitable if he hadn't been shitting on you in front of everyone up till then. Have it be Yremeryss doing that with Marz in the background as her lieutenant. Then do a scene like "you want to overthrow your sister and I want to kick her ass. We can help each other". That would also give us a personal reason to fight Yremeryss.

>>543706585
>Abelard, get the sanctioning iron.

>>543706585
>Most eldar women have big tits
>posts wraithbone padding

>>543706798
>could even be a man
Nope. Spirit stone in the middle of the chest = female.
Males always have theirs off to the side.
Incidentally Yrliet's model has hers in the wrong place but her portrait has it correctly located.

>>543706837
Marz already gets a cool turn around since he's one of the few drukhari who speak gothic.

>>543707028
>Incidentally Yrliet's model has hers in the wrong place
tranny confirmed. Yrlitards just can't catch a break

New patch, new playthrough. Super excited

>>543707093
That's true. You could use that in my scenario by having him translate for Yremeryss. So you can propose working together and he doesn't translate that bit for her.

>>543707141
Your wide screen is making my balls hurt.

>>543707262
That's literally what happens when he gets banished to the arena. You turn off your translator and talk to him before the faggots he's with get mad and storm off. I thought it was a neat sequence desu.

>>543707262
Are you retarded? You have an elucidator on you

>>543706879
I would have liked a little sidequest to get a sanctioned xeno certificate for Yrliet. From the same place you get Jae's Merchant Certificate. Then she could produce it occasionally and people could react to it.

>>543707591
She won't even let you touch her, you think she's going to let herself be branded?

>>543707591
>I would have loved her to throw another tantrum and storm off

>>543707458
Yeah that's true. That was a good bit.
>>543707505
Elucidator is a gay plot device imo

>>543707591
sanctioning includes branding/tattooing the xeno, sometimes, crippling them

>>543707719
>Elucidator is a gay plot device imo
No disagreements here. Game's full of these because owlkeks can't write for shit

>>543707636
Branded? I thought it was just a little card like a driver's licence.
>Name: Yrlitard
>Race: Space Elf
>Occupation: Autist
then a picture of her.

>>543707858
nah it's a nasty process. you can brand marazhai but it's a sex thing not a legal thing.

How would Craftworld Eldar fans react if in Dark Heresy there is a romancable female Ynnari Drukek and she ends up being not just nicer than Yrliet, but also puts out?

>>543707748
Oh ok never mind then.

>>543707986
Who cares

>>543708107
me. gib big tiddy space elf gf.

>>543707986
They'd be fine with it because eldar fans are normal human beings instead of mentally ill larpers like imperium fans.

My characters backstory is that he was kidnapped and forcefed Fey queen titty milk from the tap because ???

>>543707141
Cassia doesn't want you and Kibbles fucks first date

Yrliet stuffs her bra

Yrliet burned my house down

Earlet lmao

>>543711096
her leggies and belly are out

The female eldarfags need to be put down

Yrliet wears a binder to make her breasts smaller because she's afraid of growing up and the implications that come with it. This is also why she refuses to get a real job and instead became an outcast.

Larry will be assigned to you by your boss in the prologue
>For this mission you will be working with Special Adviser Larry.
>Greetings mon-keigh
>But.. but sir!
>Is there a problem acolyte? Do not let me detain you.

>>543712154
Imagine Larry talks like a stereotypical pirate

Yrliet refuses to pay monkeigh taxes and stays home all day playing video games

>>543712154
>Do not let me detain you.
Ominous

is buffing a pathfinder thing or are the other crpg games like that too? I’ve only played pathfinder, larian games, and underrail. I want to play more but buffing 10 skills before boss encounters isn’t very fun.

the only "chaste romances" i know of in crpgs are yrliet's and sebastian's
did any femcels actually go for the latter and are able to comment?

>>543712531
She has a twitch channel with many viewers
She'll wiggle her ears if you send her a tip but she won't otherwise interact with the chat

>>543712710
Yrliet is not a twitch whore, take it back

>>543712634
TRVTHNVKE
Cassia's should have been chaste but not Yrliet's

>>543712590
>underrail
>needing to buff before fights
Should have been a punch monk GOD

Dam just found out snes wiz6 can't transfer to 7 what's the point. Least now I know the optimal way to build characters but I'm not sure I can dosbox on my phone and it not be a controls pain

>>543712816
>it's not like I remove my armor elantach
>my channel isn't like Jae's

>>543679348
>>Those expected and beloved feature in most popular RPGs?
You mean the feature that is always terrible, a resource hog, ruins most characters and only appeals to complete and utter idiots?

You might've had a point if there were a bunch of high quality and well written romances in RPGs, but there aren't. The best are ones directly tied to the story and are not optional, which you mostly see in non CRPGs.

>>543712871
To clarify, underrail and larian don’t have annoying buffing requirements.
It’s a pathfinder thing im complaining/asking about

>still talking about rogue trader romances
WE have all moved on to the dark heresy waifus.

>we
How's your vtmb2 playthrough going, champ

>>543713083
Buff autism/stay bloat is more of a owlcat thing, even other pathfinder games are nowhere near as bad as Kingmaker and wotr

>>543676851
She looks pretty cool. Would waifufags be content with Owlcat giving them a hot romancable witch hunter waifu or will they be mad because there's no female elf?

>>543712590
Owlcat games, mostly. Tyranny has some of it but it's way faster

>>543713462
They will be mad if she's not a submissive nice girl

>>543713264
>Other pathfinder games
There are other pathfinder games?
The longest running party I know of playing irl had to run a spreadsheet by lvl 17, and their party was not optimal they had at least 1 druid

>>543713264
>>543713536
Thanks guys, that’s good to know

>>543713462
It's not about her job
It's about her personality
We don't want a frumpy old matron of battle
We want our cheerfully dumb bimbo of battle
Likewise a slutty deldar waifu wouldn't be the same as a tsundere wallflower.
The one on that pic looks completely generic and boring.

>>543713613
Speak for yourself I'm fine with a dommy mommy as long as she doesn't do cuckshit

>>543712590
Anyone who says it’s only a pathfinder thing is just lying to you

>>543713024
>only appeals to complete and utter idiots?
That's most of the market.
Do you want to sell or don't you?

>>543713685
This smirk made sense when I played and the game became pass all turns to argenta so she one rounds the entire map. Passing it to a rogue trader with the same build would've felt better honestly

I forgot how I don't know how to disable mouse edge panning in Black Geyser. I hate that shit. Just let me use WASD and don't jerk the screen around if I move the mouse within an inch of the edges. I tried opening the config file and manually setting the scroll speed to 0, but it just set it back to 1 automatically.

>>543690264
>>She's conventionally attractive without any severe physical flaws or defects
>>She's a virgin with no previous partners
>>She's young
>>She stays with you happily through the whole relationship all the way to the ending slides

This is literal fairy tale bullshit and you expect that in a 40k setting?
The aversion to a partner having had sex before you/the protag is such a pathetic and insecure mindset.

>>543713632
There are but they are all low budget indes like archaelund or dawnsbury days.

>>543713941
femoid spotted

>>543713083
Underrail doesn't have much prebuffing whatsoever. You don't really need food buffs outside of crafting for combat even on dominating. You do just launch your nade/control spell and reload if it fails and you can't just alpha strike(only happens at lower lvls)

>>543713941
>you expect that in a 40k setting
Yes
Why wouldn't I? That's a very normal way for people to be.