Thread 545742839

#1970 - Halo, formerly Infinite edition

Halo Info:
>"Halo: Campaign Evolved" launches in 2026
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/halo-campaign-evolved/9N683TDT5M7R/0010
>Latest Infinite Update (10/7)
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/survive-the-undead
>Halo Studios announces "Halo Fest"
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/halo-fest-announced

Halo News:
>Halo Infinite's final update launches November 18th
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/operation-infinite-preview
>Halo: Campaign Evolved Roundtable Reveal
https://youtu.be/e-tXi1NC_aU?si=bOtWcXCi_uCKVfH0
>Halo: Campaign Evolved "The Silent Cartographer" 13-minute gameplay demo
https://youtu.be/hSjbIM0iegY?si=xRc0YMVmiAXcB7Jo

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my spartan looks like this under her armour

Bleach is the root of all.

Okay Baza that's enough.

Cheeks, too far. That's enough.

Mythra > Nia > Pyra

not halo

Very, very Halo

Okay well make another thread. This one sucks.

>>545675104
Mendicant Bias
>>545702275
dogshit flying, miracle you survived

pretty forced thread so far, but I guess it's early

The Master has taken on another apprentice. Whether this is a good thing or not is unknown at this stage and I urge you to not jump to any conclusions, okay?

>"""HALO 1 REMAKE - Bungie Developer Ends Most CONTROVERSIAL Debate"""
>mint sissy starts saying: """I'M MORE RIGHT BECAUSE I PLAYED MORE HALO THAN ALL THE FANBASE TOGETHER"""
Why is he such a faggot?

>>545749413
I'm more right because I quit fewer games than him :)

>>545749413
I thought he didn't play because his connection was bad.

>>545749413
>>545749478
>>545749683
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>545750110
This meme hasn't aged well

halo is dead

>>545751231
chose to end on a sour note for some bizarre reason

Posted without context

Why so serious?

forgot pic

>>545752192
Were ammo packs ever a thing in multiplayer? The smaller ones, I mean. I know Halo 2 had a bunch of rocket, sniper, and shotgun ammo boxes around the maps.

>>545751231
That female Spartan armor from 5 looks hilarious on shitfinite’s character model.

Gaylo? More like

Halo

>>545751231
lmao what's with all the halo 5 slop?
There's even a guardian in the background

https://www.walmart.com/ip/EZ-Bombs-Pozole-Bomb-Seasoning-2-Pack-Authentic-Mexican-Soup-Mix-Traditional-Pozole-Made-Real-Chiles-Herbs-Spices-Quick-Flavorful-Meals/14752867212?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=102675822&sourceid=dsn_ad_34ba2672-106a-484b-a996-41cf96423ae3&veh=dsn&wmlspartner=dsn_ad_34ba2672-106a-484b-a996-41cf96423ae3&cn=FY26-MP-PMax-P13N_cnv_dps_dsn_dis_ad_mp_s_n&gclsrc=aw.ds&wl9=pla&wl11=online&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22437915517&gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIqZqK7wfKDzBakBWyzUQe9BQ&gclid=CjwKCAiA8bvIBhBJEiwAu5ayrKe2hxjEt0Blrts9P_6AKvIEaT17MA_tGYwucip16M8SzsU7AvNHehoCyY0QAvD_BwE

>wake up
>SHITfinite is seriously actually dead
Lol
Next up on the flopping block is the demake.

how many pp grabbers can one link contain

>>545757365
Bursting with flavor!

>Infinite lasted 4 years
On one hand, that IS the lengthiest support cycle any Halo game has ever had.
At the same time, it was supposed to last 10

>>545758161
>On one hand, that IS the lengthiest support cycle any Halo game has ever had.
Yeah but it also started with less content than any other main series entry by far, and it took about 3ish years to catch up.
The most recent year of the game's lifespan has been its best, but it was also too little too late.

>>545758161
Turns out it's easy to "support" a game when the community makes the maps and gamemodes for you, and you outsource all the spartan dressup model creation.

I've seen some weird fucking cope about Infinite becoming EOL. My favourite so far is "get digsite to work on the cut infinite maps so they can be added".

>>545758161
>On one hand, that IS the lengthiest support cycle any Halo game has ever had.
Didn't MCC get support for longer?

But how does Hogarth relate to all of this?

Terminated post above.

The Council wants you to forget about the Hogarth phenomenon. Don't let them.

Okay Marty

Mogadishu

Reminder that Flood levels are NOT Halo. They never were, and they will never be.

Shit thread. Delete it so we may start over.

>>545749413
>I'M MORE RIGHT THAN ALL OF YOU BECAUSE I HAVE SIX GORILLION HOURS IN THESE VIDEO GAMES
>says the most spineless, fence sitting shit possible
There is not a depth of hell deep enough for such faggotry.

I want to run some firefight. What's a good time for people?

>>545773389
Reach? Not for me.

>>545773548
That's cool
But keep it to yourself next time

the trans won

the Halo won

half the halo devs are lgbtqia+

fake news

Working on a gametype.

Update of a Firefight gametype I had made previously that was tweaking the gameplay to play like Combat Evolved.
It already had a PvP element, but I had some interesting ideas for PvP.
So on top of it playing more like Halo 1...

>7 minute rounds
>Spartans start with 10 lives
>Elite players start with 25 lives
>Spartans can gain a max of 25 lives total
>Killing an Elite player grants Spartans 2 lives.
>When an Elite player dies, his respawn timer grows by 5 seconds

Been looking at stats and trying to tune Elite players to be comparable to a Halo CE Elite General, although maybe a little weaker for PvP purposes. Gotta strike the right balance.
In the previous version of the gametype I had Spartan players loadouts include Active Camo and Drop Shield to simulate camo and overshield powerups respectively.
In this gametype, only Elites will have Armor Abilities, and when they're killed they'll drop them.

The idea is to tune it just right so Elite players have a real chance of eliminating the Spartans, but every time an Elite player dies its a significant boost for Spartans - dropping Armor Abilities, powerful weapons, and adding 2 lives to their pool.
Spartans also have a real chance of eliminating the Elites, with only 25 lives available to them.
Neither is likely to happen in a 7 minute round, but this seems like a nice balance to create some tension

Counter-proposal: Mogadishu

NO MORE HALO
Let this be the last thread

/hg/ Operation :Infinite

Hey
I just wanted to come over from /v/
and absolutely laugh at you worthless fucking niggers
What a disgrace and pathetic existence you cucks must have had
Making a general to quite posssibly one of the most mismanaged series of all time, and you kept believeing that it'd fix itself.
You guys genuinely need to kill yourselves.

>>545777736
literally nobody on /hg/ ever had hope for nuhalo
we've been shitting on pissfinite for the last 4 years
this is why niggers should lurk

>>545777736
>He thinks this is a 343 Halo General
Maybe for laughing at
I just play the Bungie games
Not sure what you're getting on about

>>545778185
HEY DUMB FUCK NIGGER FAGGOT
YOU GUYS BROWSE A GENERAL FOR THE HALO SERIES
WHICH IS OWNED BY 343 LMAO
AND THEY MAINTAIN THIS SHITTY ASS GAMES
IDC IF YOU DON'T PLAY THE "MODERN GAMES" ITS THE MODERN GAMES THAT ARE LEADING TO THIS SERIES DEATH AND WHY ITS DEAD
YOURE A FUCKING SHIT EATING NIGGER THAT PARTICIPATES IN THESE THREADS WHEN ITS PURE TRASH
>>545778216
YOU PLAY A SERIES THAT IS GETTING RAPED TO DEATH
MOVE ON
DO SOMETHING ELSE SUPPORT DIFFERENT COMPANIES FAGGOT

>>545777736
>tourist
opinion discarded

>>545778437
There is no need to be upset

>>545778437
Xbox Logo.

Open on a modern day parking lot. Captain James Cutter, in UNSC naval dress, is standing by a used car at a car dealership. The salesman is the Jiralhanae Atriox, wearing a tie and carrying a clipboard.

Atriox: This baby's yours for 6K. Do we have a deal?
Cutter: Three.
Atriox: SIX!
Cutter: I will get this car for 3K, and this is how...
Quick fade, then cut to the two at the car. Cutter starts to turn to leave.

Cutter: (voiceover) I'll open with a strategic withdrawal.
Atriox: Wait, wait. Whoa, wait, hold on.
Cutter: (voiceover) You counter with a disinformation campaign.
Atriox: I'll talk to my manager and see what I can do.
Cut to inside Atriox's office. Nobody is inside but him. The wall is decorated with sales plaques and a dartboard picturing the Prophet of Regret.

Atriox: Just a little longer...
Cut to Atriox's POV, as he watches Cutter on his security screen while he hums to himself. Cut back to Atriox.

Atriox: I'm talking to no one.
Cut back to outside. Atriox is back by the car with Cutter.

Atriox: Great news! He said we could do 599...9.
Cutter: (voiceover) Then, I'll bait you with psychological warfare.
Cutter: Lemme talk to him. (gestures at an inflatable airdancer.) He seems more flexible.
Atriox: A pun?! You know I hate puns! You catty little two-faced double opposable thumbed...
Cutter pulls out his phone and begins recording Atriox while the Brute continues to rant.

Cutter: (voiceover that overlaps Atriox yelling which makes it illegible) You will attempt a verbal assault.

>>545777736
Are you okay, Anon?

>>545779443
Wars 2 was just as cringe as Halo 4 and 5 and I'll never understand how so many people give it a pass.

>>545779736
Atriox: I will tear your head off!
Cutter, still recording, turns to show himself in front of Atriox.

Atriox: -and hang it from the rearview like a f-!
Atriox abruptly stops as he turns to see a man and young woman overhearing him. The father pulls his daughter away from the yelling Brvte.

Cutter: (voiceover) ...with collateral damage.
Atriox: Ohhhhh no... sorry. Came off wrong.
Cutter: (voiceover) The evidence of which will not look good in my online review. And that's how I'll get this car for 3K.
Fade cut back to the present, which Cutter having executed his plan. Atriox hangs his head in defeat.

Atriox: Well played. How about a warran-
Cutter, in the driver's seat of the car, hands Atriox's clipboard back to him.

Cutter: Warranties are for suckers.
Cutter tosses the pen behind him and starts to drive away.

Atriox: (speaking rapidly) All-sales-are-final-no-takebacks-no-substitutions-no-trades.
The car's rear bumper falls off. Cutter stops as the engine begins to smoke. Atriox laughs to himself.

KNOW YOUR ENEMY

HALO WARS 2

AVAILABLE FEBRUARY 21

Xbox Logo.

>>545742839 (OP)
Reach a shit

>>545777736
dan is right!!!

Reach is good.
I'll admit, it's much better in the MCC than it was at any point in its Xbox 360 lifespan.
But it's pretty damn good.

>>545780962
Are you still up?

none of the mcc games are deserving of anything above fine when theres no server browser.

>>545777736
AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

But where does the Endless fit into this?

>>545781993
who

>>545781213
there is always a server browser called the friends list

>>545782342
I guess some kind of explanation is in order. This is the Endless, a new ancient evil revealed near the end of the first and only Halo Infinite single player campaign titled "Become". The Endless is a species of alien imprisoned on the Zeta Halo ring (Installation 07) by the Forerunners. On the ring is a location known as "The Silent Auditorium" in which The Forerunners would pass judgement on The Endless before their imprisonment. The Endless as we know it is similar in appearance to those of the Cambrian Explosion approximately 541 million years ago on our own planet Earth. Pure speculation at this point, but this may be a new hint connecting Humans and Forerunners in the Halo series. Anyway, the only remaining member of The Endless that we know about is The Harbinger, who joins a faction of former Covenant known as The Banished, lead of course by the Brute War Master known as Atriox. She does so with the secret plan to use The Banished and their hold on the Zeta Halo ring to free her people from their ancient imprisonment and unleash them upon the unknowing Galaxy. If you want to learn more about The Endless and what happens next in their story, you can find out soon when Halo Campaign Evolved releases on Xbox Series consoles, Playstation 5, Steam, and Windows platforms as well as releasing day one on Xbox Game Pass and Xbox Game Pass PC. If you wanna talk about this more you can add me at GT: JingleBaZa, I'll send you an invite to my private discord server where we can continue this discussion. Y'know, just us. Haha if that's alright of course...

>>545782686
>this is not Hxlo, its Hylo
thanks chatgpt

>>545781130
Up to what?

Deez nuts

haitch gee
Halo General

>>545778437
>support different companies
No i don't think i will, faggot. I don't even support 343.

JEGA LETS US GO TOT HE NEAREST GAMESTOP AND BUY ALL THE FUNKO POPS NOW

Man, he's really not funny.

AAAAAAAA FUUUUCK ALL THEY HAD WERE ENDLESS I WANTED TONY HECKING STARK JEGA KEEP LOOKING

Why aren't there any sexy babes in Halo?

There are no genders in Halo anymore, chud.

>>545789027
pic unrelated

Man, H2A has so much potential. Shame it's fucking dead.

Being a girl must be so boring.

>>545778437
>NOOOOO YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ENJOY CLASSIC HALO
cope harder

>>545782342
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>545780962
Reach was best when the grain filter was removed. I will never forgive 343 for adding it back in.

Atriox fucking won

>retconned and forgotten
Atriox, Endless, Mendicant Bias, all lost.

>>545779736
Wars 2 was given kind of a pass because a lot of people were just kind of amazed that it was even happening at all
I'm holding out hope that Wars 3 comes out to complete the current storyline and that HS goes back to the drawing board after 3make/anniversary to make a better 4 with less autism.

>>545795678
fucking BASED

>>545773389
You should run generator defense some time. I'd show up for that

>>545795683
>complete the storyline
Wars 1 was a complete storyline.
Wars 2 ended with pointless sequel bait, on top of just being retarded throughout.
>make a better 4 with less autism
Literally why? There doesn't need to be a Halo 4, period.

>>545796017
You seem to lake the ability to deal with the reality on the ground and would prefer to scream into the hurricane of irrelevance
Suit yourself, and thanks for bumping

Classic Halo gameplay.

holy shit someone just got DONE

>>545796512
>the reality on the ground
Is that every 343 game is garbage.
You are complacent.
You have no sense of discernment.
No will to power.
You will face the wall with them on the Day of the Hoop.
And you will beg only to be raped.

>>545796512
You're done.
>>545797649
You've done him.

>>545798909
Sleep tight, lil Spartan.

>>545798909
We're going to lose this thanks to the blur engine movies

Running a game in about 30 minutes

>>545799539
The cutscenes look to be real time, but they're intentionally cutting out anything not tied to the scenes so shit just disappears. Considering there's not even a destroyed dropship in TSC's opening from the scene prior, it goes both ways at that.

but is it worth it

>>545800493
No.
Next question.

>>545800493
I have points left over from the last battle pass that gave them out, so I might as well.

>>545800493
this was free content in 5 btw

>>545800978
different gun altogether, and also different circumstances in that 5 actually made the CE Magnum a Forge/playlist gimmick weapon rather than a skin.

>5
Not Halo.

>>545801178
It was better in 5, while still being free.

>>545801178
what point are you trying to make?

Sad they didnt even push out rockridge and beltway. Both maps looked basically done years ago... Did anyone save the video of beltway? I cannot find it anywhere for the life of me.

>Halo was originally going to be a Mac exclusive. Steve Jobs introduced the game at MacWorld 1999
>Bungie sold themselves and Halo in 2000
>Bungie release Halo 1 and Halo 2 for OG Xbox
>Max Hoberman established Xbox Live, SBMM, 1-50 ranking system, online multiplayer on consoles, online Halo state tracking on Bungie.net
>After Halo 2, Bungie now want to leave Microsoft, works up a deal where they fill 3 obligations
>Bucket 1: Halo 3
>Bucket 2: Halo Chronicles
>Bucket 3: Halo 4
>Halo Movie is scrapped, ODST is compensated (8 month development)
>Halo 4 is scrapped, Lee Wilson wants to make Reach
>Bungie leaves in 2010/2011
>MS creates 343 to create Halo content in 2008/2009/2010
>MS/343 outsource Halo Anniversary to Saber, Saber got the contract to develop Halo Anniversary because its CEO 'offered to do it for free' lol
>343 gave Halo PC's Gearbox code base, and not Halo XBox's code base, to Saber
>343 doesn't know how to use Bungie's Halo engine, only the original Bungie devs knew, Marty told 343 that nobody at Bungie would help them lol
>Frank O'Connor retcons Joe Staten's lore and mythos (Humans = Forerunners)
>Halo 4 despised by fans
>Xbox no longer has Halo carrying the console
>Xbox One announcement is a complete flop and permanently damaged the brand
>Halo MCC was marketed as a love letter for the fans, having H1/H2/H3 on one console, 1080p 60fps with all maps, but completely busted on release
>H1 MCC and H2 MCC based on Gearbox PC port codebase and not the original Xbox codebase
>Halo 5 releases, and if Halo 4 didn't kill the franchise, Halo 5 buried it
>Tom French managed to salvage Halo 5's multiplayer, H5 never got a W11 port
>Halo MCC ported to Windows 10, 343 hires Halo MODDER Sean Cooper (kornman00) to fix the broken port from Jan 2018 - Dec 2023
>Infinite and Series X marketed as a return to Xbox's origins
>Infinite is delayed, released, promised a 10 year plan and is a complete flop
>343 renamed to Halo Studios and is remaking CE in UE5

You are here

>>545802918
>not updated for Campaign Evolved
>no mentions of Infinite winding down
Lazy bum.

>>545793327
>Man, H2A has so much potential

Explain?

Alright, running a test run of this PvP firefight mode
Team changing is enabled
Change your team if you want to try Elites

This is just a test run to see how it's balanced. Only one map.
Will go from there re: balancing and adding more maps.

Session name is "Halo CE - PvP"

>>545803730
Forge is pretty advanced, compared to Reach. You can create maps with functional gates and "destructible" map objects that disappear after a button is pressed. And the sandbox is developed enough to be fun.

>>545802918
a good amount of this is irrelevant, incorrect, and bookshit
But thanks for bumping

>>545804353
whatever gets us to 2000 is good enough

The Good (enough) Ending

It's very "ruby slippers" esq. MCC was always the real "end" to Halo. It has all the content that has ever mattered and has outlived every game released after it. The real "infinite" Halo if you will.

>>545805265
>inb4 "that's just steam"
MCC is now more games ahead of Infinite on Xbox than I have ever seen. Infinite is losing to Black Ops 2 and 3.

>>545805265
>>545805427
based

We have the halp that matters
For everything else, I'll just play other games.

>>545805265
HIRE THIS POSTER

Why do the Halo books get so much hate? They established the lore

>>545805265
What were the player counts like for Halo 3 and Reach in 2008 to 2014? Anyone have the data?

>>545805817
They are full of contradictions and are largely irrelevant.
That could all be forgiven if they were actually good, but they're meh at best and abysmal at worst

>>545806027
I could actually probably get some of these for you but it wouldn't matter much because the player count for Reach at least was known to be somewhat bugged later into its lifespan.
What's easier to obtain is the Unique User counts but that's also a very misleading metric.
As far as MCC goes, it had a very poor population from 2015 until about 2018 due to an assortment of networking issues and performance bugs.
It stuck it out though and against all odds is now the most played Halo game.
PS5 release when?

>>545806507
>I could actually probably get some of these for you but it wouldn't matter much because the player count for Reach at least was known to be somewhat bugged later into its lifespan.

Please do it bro

>>545805265
well said
we have all we need
That's not to say MCC is perfect. It still has a lot of problems.

Why did they sunset the 360 games again?

>>545806545
Fine I'll do it.
It's going to take some time though.
I always deliver, but like anything that's free, you're going to have to be patient.
I'm going to grab the UUs and MAUs while I'm at it. Depending on what is easier to compile, it may get dumped in a random order before I group it all in the end.

>>545806805
You WILL play MCC.

>>545806671
>That's not to say MCC is perfect. It still has a lot of problems.

Like what? It's 1:1 with the original versions

>7GB

Remember when this was big?

>>545806805
They wanted to group everyone onto MCC and see if it would lead to profits in various ways:
1. Simply getting people to buy MCC who were instead still only playing the older versions
2. Causing MCC to increase playground which would lead to more interest from other people who wanted to join in on the growing sensation (fomo)
3. They intended to monetize MCC with micros. This never came to be due to community backlash (and MCC just being too hard to code) but they admitted it was a plan in the works

tl;dr $$$

>>545806969
>it's 1:1 to the original versions
CE is Gearbox. They have edited it to be closer, but it's still Gearbox.
H2 is Vista. They have edited it to be closer, but it' still Vista.
H4 is a strange basterdization frankenstein mishmash of vanilla and TU.
3 and Reach are mostly fine which helps because they're by far the overwhelming majority of the MCC's playerbase.

>>545806969
>Like what?
The networking is still very poor. Good luck trying to play with people seperated by oceans without constant disconnects.
It's far better than at launch but that's not saying much consideringaunch was one of the worst networking experiences in the history of the medium.

>>545807691
>>545807992
The game also still crashes a ton.
Plus there are little cosmetic issues like loading screens that straight up spoil the upcoming levels and story, and armor that clashes with the art style. You can toggle it off, but the "OG" skins on guns have still been altered for no discernible reason.

Thoughts on that?

>>545804180
>Forge is pretty advanced, compared to Reach. You can create maps with functional gates and "destructible" map objects that disappear after a button is pressed. And the sandbox is developed enough to be fun.

Max Hoberman wanted to do more with H2A, but he stated it was up to Microsoft/343

>Shrine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVKP89UNBQQ
>Bloodline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXLHly8HJ3w
>Stonetown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8hCeg6RpaE
>Zenith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZesxQlSK1lE
>Lockdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgom21BEAHU
>Warlord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky7XRR9GYY4

>>545808618
we really should change it after 2000
let helldivers or someone else have hg

>>545808618
based

>>545808618
always has been

>>545805265
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEE

>>545805265
Nice to see Wars still has players
I wonder how sweaty they are

>>545808618
"MCC General" implies that Infinite is Halo. This already is the """MCC General"""

>>545805265
It's a little bittersweet. A part of me still would like some fresh new Halo.
But if this is the future, then I guess it could be worse.
Back a decade ago I remember being worried that MCC would never be playable and was being left for dead. Now it's the only Halo that matters.
I'll take it.

>>545808618
MY KNEES ARE MOVING ON THEIR OWN

Halo 7 will feature Vale and Zane fighting over who gets to lead Sanghelios.
Settled via bra and panties match of course.

>>545811198
>Vale and Zane
Literally and who?

>>545811874
Don't worry about it, kitten.

Thanks for playing if you did.

So...
Elite loadouts are
> Plasma Rifle + Needler + 3 Plasma Grenades
> Plasma Rifle + Energy Sword + Active Camo + 1 Plasma Grenade
> Fuel Rod + Energy Sword + Armor Lock + 1 Plasma Grenade
Elites can't pick up weapons, but they have infinite ammo, a buff to their health, and 1 layer of overshield.

The idea was for Elites to be tough but fun and rewarding to kill like facing off against a General in the campaign. (esp. with dropping power weapons and Armor Abilities - picking your loadout as an Elite is a risk/reward tradeoff - ie. You can try to rampage with the Fuel Rod, but if you die you've just delivered power weapons and Armor Lock to the Spartans).
My thinking with the overshield was to prevent Elite players getting sniped from across the map.

Playing both sides, I think I might add a Shotgun for the Spartans. Elites are currently really deadly at close quarters with their shields, and a Shotgun would mitigate that.
OR
Might remove or nerf the Sniper loadout (no secondary weapon) AND remove the Elite overshield.

If you have any thoughts post em

Will the next Halo game have actual female spartans or will we be stuck with the blocks they gave us in Infinite?

>>545811932
Don't like the Overshield or the power weapons.

>>545812108
Is that "I don't like being shot at by Elites with power weapons?" or "I don't like power weapons at all?"

>>545812558
It's "I don't like being shot at by Elites with power weapons" and "I don't like having to spawn with power weapons to counter the Elites with power weapons".

>>545811932
it's called Body Type 2, chud

>>545811932
does this happen without "waves"?

Halo 3 tourny

>>545812948
I forget how Firefight is sliced, exactly. It's a 7 minute round, which I think is enough for 1 wave if the Spartans make enough progress, which means 5 drops of reinforcements.
>>545812745
Eh. Hmmm.
I get why.
I'm not sure I want to budge on them, but I could...
>reduce Elite's health and shield bonuses to a more normalized level for PvP
>disable headshot kills for Elites (so they'd have to be shot twice with a Sniper every time)
>replace Fuel Rod with the Concussion Rifle
How does that sound?

Post Anti-Nostalgia

>Bungie Pro
>Map Packs
>Microsoft Points
>30fps

>>545815116
Correct

why wont my friend play halo with me

>>545815116
I'll always defend map packs compared to what came after and what it has done to gaming but I agree with everything else

>>545815959
You can't make people play games they don't want to play
/hg/ will probably have a lobby going next weekend

>>545808626
Shame, H2A is a lot of fun as a what if game in the series, but it never got the map and playlist support it deserved.

>>545815116
Having to jump through insane hoops to find and download good quality Halo music tracks that were not on the official soundtrack releases

>>545817250
The most unfortunate part of H2A was that there was never a reason to give it a chance because it was bundled with a Halo game you already liked.

>>545817580
>The most unfortunate part of H2A was that there was never a reason to give it a chance because it was bundled with a Halo game you already liked.

MCC was only planned to be H2A campaign, H2C multiplayer, and Max's H2A multiplayer until they decided to add CE, 3 and 4 to have every mainline Halo in one package

>>545817861
The intent obviously differed from the final product. Even as a full game, 6 maps would not have held attention for long.

>>545818054
B-but F-Forge!
Just i-ignore the b-bad lighting!

>>545815116
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1cdcsNhSPY

>>545818054
>>545817861
Reminder that when Max Hoberman was hired to work on H2A, he said MCC would be a disaster and he was right

Max Hoberman stated that 343 gave him Halo 4's source code and he turned it into H2A MP. He wanted to do more with it, but MCC was a clusterfuck and was completely abandoned until the Windows port

MCC was outsourced
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gpklokblI006QYtGlxUeds747lPZD_JSph56qLJqzhw

>it's finally coming to an end
Wow infinite was so bad. Absolute garbage.

>>545817580
I wouldn't have called the multiplayer H2A at all since retards only ended up comparing the game in every detail to Halo 2 when the obvious intent was making a modern Halo experience but streamlined with a back to basics approach. I would have combined Halo 2 and Halo 3 maps and playlists but kept the gameplay as mostly an enhanced Halo 2 but with the addition of being able to pick up mounted weapons in third person and some Halo 3 vehicles for variety.

Friendly Reminder that you can play Halo 3 (upgraded to 4K), Wars, ODST, Reach and Halo 4 on Xbox Series X BC. Exactly as they shipped.

Except for Halo CE and Halo 2.

>>545819250
>>it's finally coming to an end
Not likely!

>>545819349
>Exactly as they shipped.
You can't play 3 online without some sort of trick with an xbox 360. (Halo 3 sunrise)

>>545819349
There's no online, Retard-kun.

I still don't know what a sea creature has to do with the Endless, and at this point I'm too autistic to ask.

>>545819340
>I wouldn't have called the multiplayer H2A at all

Halo: Certain Affinity

>>545806027
I don't have the raw data but I know both got huge boosts when they went free with gold, I remember Reach had 17k+ online in late 2014.

>>545819417
the endless looks like he'd hurt me.

What would Nightdive Halo ports be like?

>>545815116
>Halo PC runs at 30fps and is missing shaders and effects. Chimera and Refined fixed it decades later
>Halo 2's E3 Demo is smoke and mirrors bullshit
>Halo 2's downgrade
>Halo 2's cliffhanger
>Bungie Pro
>Map Packs
>Microsoft Points
>Xbox Live Gold
>Games for Windows Live (Halo 2 Vista)
>Halo 3: ODST underwhelms for $60, No matchmaking for firefight
>ODST Brown and bloom. Motion blur. Red at the edges of the screen when you take damage to indicate low health. "Environmental storytelling grafitti", straight out of Bioshock or Dead Space, that says stuff like "No Hope" "Covenant Bastards" "The UNSC Lies!" "hell on Earth", written in blood because ... you know that's something people would bother to do in the middle of a crisis situation
>30fps
>default FOV of 70
>Reach's bloom and motion blur
>grey featureless less than 30FPS motion blur forge maps

How the fuck did that happen?

>>545742839 (OP)
THE TEN YEAR PLAN UP IN FLAMES HUH /hg/?!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHH
FUCK 343 and fuck it’s retarded fanboys

Was MCC really that bad in 2014?

>>545820598
It was seen as a huge joke back then. Some might even say a scam.

>>545820598
Yes
1th place
Forced halo 4 searches
[Halo4IQuit]
2v6 matches on spawn
Hit reg on all halos not correct Xbox version
CE had the gearbox DING DING DING Sound on enemy hit and damage so you basically were playing with life alert on 24/7
Missing maps
H2A host booting
No firefight
Customization was trash
Matchmaking wait time-19 minutes on launch

t.was there

>>545815116
What the fuck is Bungie Pro?

>>545821202
Let you upload more to file share and I think some quality changes and I think you had more access to mythic maps when it was coming out

>>545819821
Halo: CE with tastefully updated models and environments would be awesome.

>>545819821
They would cut down the LIbrary by one floor at the very least.
Still pissed that they dumbed down Turok 2.

>>545820598
https://youtu.be/ypjLel6SVpk?si=jB4EoYAhJezkqTNa
11 minutes in and you’ll know

>>545820195
343...

>TU update literally killed Big Team Battle in Reach because the shitty bloom was the only thing that balanced the DMR as a starting weapon on the large open maps
>Just becomes DMR spam, save for power weapons
>Every other non-power weapon is fucking useless
>Vehicles are fucking useless because now it's way too easy to shoot them accurately; they die in 10 seconds
>CEA is outsourced slop

Halo 4...
>April 2012 Game Informer reveals first details about Halo 4's multiplayer and it's so bad everyone thinks it's actually a joke.
>Infinity Slayer sucks
>Ordnance Drops suck
>Boltshot spawning
>DMR dominates the meta because of reduced bloom and the launch BR taking 5 shots to kill
>They removed so many features from Reach that Forge and Custom Games suffered. Didn't launch with a Forge World equivalent
>File Share was broken for years
>Clearly inspired by Black Ops: Sprint, large maps, randomness from ordinance drops etc, no ranking system

MCC
>MCC initially started as a rushed project from a bunch of different hands on deck trying to get it out in time, hence its broken launch
>It was never meant to be a way to preserve the older games. It was Microsoft’s greedy attempt to cash in on Halo 2’s ten year anniversary. They wanted way too much out of it in a short period of time, porting four titles, creating a new remaster and tacking on an unnecessary multiplayer using Halo 4’s engine. Then they abandoned it for years when it inevitably failed.
>Anyone who works in software can tell you this type of thing is completely unacceptable and avoidable
>Completely fucked
>Bonnie Ross and Frank O'Connor had to formally apologize
>Paid fans to fix it lol "You want MCC fixed? Fix it yourself"
>MCC is completely missing dozens of game types from H2, H3 and Reach playlist on the 360 also

>>545819821
Lightyears better than anything 343 could ever do. This is a great studio, honestly.

>>545820195
>>ODST Brown and bloom. Motion blur. Red at the edges of the screen when you take damage to indicate low health.
The Obama game classic playing it today is really jarring

I thought people hated Nightdive?

>>545823446
I like them.
Emphasis on "like".

Halo.

>>545823748
I'm still pissed of that time where a jugg grabbed my banshee and killed it.

>>545815116
enough time has passed that people forget that bungie would routinely patch harmless glitches and out-of-bounds from campaign. It was disappointing seeing glitches on the forums because you knew it'd be patched within a month or so. Any glitches that remain today are largely physics-based that would require core changes to the engine itself. Not because Bungie was le chill guy

It's a common sentiment I see with the younger crowds who genuinely think bungie was more pro-fun or something.

>>545823910
>enough time has passed that people forget that bungie would routinely patch harmless glitches and out-of-bounds from campaign. It was disappointing seeing glitches on the forums because you knew it'd be patched within a month or so. Any glitches that remain today are largely physics-based that would require core changes to the engine itself. Not because Bungie was le chill guy

Weren't Halo 3's map variants used to patch out glitches or remove weapons?

>>545823748
Can we not?

>>545823986
I don't know if any weapons were removed, but some equipment and shield doors were removed from the disc variants and invisible walls added.

>>545823986
yup. I don't remember the details, but they couldn't release incremental patches due to how the game and engine worked.

It really wasn't much different than Rockstar removing any semblance of fun from GTA Online, like the cargobob. Bungie were nazis back then too.

>>545824261
What did Rockstar do to the cargobob?

>>545824106
There's also Sand Tarp that removed the framerate crashing Elephants, but I don't think it shows in MCC matchmaking.

>>545824261
>yup. I don't remember the details, but they couldn't release incremental patches due to how the game and engine worked.

Wasn't it because it ran on discs and not HDD?

>>545824261
They couldn't release incremental patches because certification on the 360 was prohibitively expensive.

>>545824437
>They couldn't release incremental patches because certification on the 360 was prohibitively expensive.

Halo 4 did it on the same console.

>>545824261
>cargobob
Did they nerf it again? It used to work (kinda) 10 years ago.

>>545824543
They stopped after a while, but during Bungie's tenure games were given 1 big patch for free and everything else cost the publisher money.

>>545820337
Because bungie used a closed source proprietary audio codec that was heavily modified to run on a 360.

>Reach has some challenging technical hurdles - the foremost being the update and transfer of the audio signal path and processing scheme from the original release on Xbox 360. Since the underlying hardware architecture of the Xbox 360 is fundamentally different than our current Xbox One and PC platforms, our first internal pass involved an approximation of the PowerPC audio code and DSP.

Not only that but those tools are outdated as fuck and were never updated, I believe they were already outdated by the time Reach was released.

>>545824261
>>545824678
Boundless, Pit Stop, Sand Tarp and Epilogue

What changed here?

>>545825191
Those maps were essentially forge variants with objects that are normally inaccessible to the player. They didn't require a software patch because you just got them in matchmaking. They weren't included in the base game, either. The only way to get them was saving them from your recent history or someone's file share.

>>545824335
>>545824545
nevermind I'm retarded, I was thinking of the cargo plane that they removed the ability to load vehicles into the back. just overall anti-fun

>>545824387
>>545824437
I have a weak understanding, but iirc each map is basically a self-contained file with all of the assets packed inside. For example, a campaign mission that doesn't have the rocket launcher appear means you wouldn't be able to spawn it even using dev tools. That means making any changes to the level's geometry would mean re-compiling the map entirely and requiring users to download it again. Which, as >>545824387 pointed out, would be impossible due to lack of HDD space on the original xbox 360. Also a lot of people just did not have great internet in 2007-2010.

I'm guessing bungie did have a way to hotfix certain things, because they were able to add invisible barriers to campaign maps. there was probably a way to sideload those since the storage required would be literally less than a kilobyte just to describe the dimensions and coordinates of a polygon to block the player.

>>545825615
That is also true, it's very cumbersome to make small changes to the Halo games. It's why the Reach and Halo 4 patches only affected multiplayer, they wrote a way to patch weapon functions by using gametypes that are easy to distribute and modify. Not entirely unlike what happened with some of CE's weapons functioning differently in multiplayer compared to campaign.

>>545825615
>would be impossible due to lack of HDD space on the original xbox 360. Also a lot of people just did not have great internet in 2007-2010.

Halo 4 fixed this by forcing multiplayer maps to be installed to HDD

>>545826058
Many years later, when a HDD greater than 20GB was commonplace.

>>545825615
>Also a lot of people just did not have great internet in 2007-2010.

Based Bungie giving us Halo 2 Map Pack DVD and Halo 3: Mythic DVD, which are essential now that the servers are 404

>Xbox 360 DVD (which has a maximum theoretical read speed of 16.5 MB/s
>Xbox 360 using SATA II (which has a maximum theoretical read speed of 300MB/s)

No wonder why Bungie insisted players install Reach to the HDD.

>>545826748
crazy to think that waiting ~2-5 minutes was just normal for GTA4 & GTA5. I remember launching GTA4 and then getting up and doing chores around the house to kill time.

the punishment of dying wasn't just losing money or progress, it was having to wait 30-60 seconds to respawn.

Did you get a RROD?

>>545827514
Red rings? Yes.
The RROD? No.

>>545820598
However bad you think it was, it was worse. Was genuinely unplayable. If you told me that a decade later its reputation would be reversed and it would be the most played game I would think you were fucking with me.

>The Intel Pentium III and NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4200 are solid choices to mimic the original Xbox's performance

What if Halo 7 was built to take full advantage of the 5090?

So....who exactly is steering the ship with Halo at this point?

>actual discussion going on
Yea im out

>>545827514
Nope. My disc drive stopped working though.

>>545828338
Don't be a silly billy, Anon.

>>545828225
Infinite was built to run on Xbox One is equivalent to a GTX 750 lol

>>545828338
At this point it’s just the wind

>>545828379
I'm gonna kiss you on the mouth

>No Bonnie Ross
>No Frank O'Connor
>No Tom French

Are you happy now?

>>545829108
The damage is already done.

No, i think is just getting started.

Halo and Xbox never recovered after this

>The disc version of Halo Infinite doesn't actually contain the full playable game, instead, it requires online DRM to install the game

Bravo 343

>>545819821
Fucking phenomenal company
Their Doom ports are S tier

>>545830525
>borderlands 2 came out in 2012
That game aged so horribly lmao

>>545831057
AAAIIIEEE

>>545820598
>Was MCC really that bad in 2014?
Yes. It was a fucking train wreck in every sense of the word.
The weirdest thing about it though is that sometimes and for some people it would randomly and spurratically almost... work perfectly?
Hence "it works on my machine"

>>545831057
>>545831606
You now remember that Halo 4 was the last Halo game that worked perfectly fine offline, had split-screen, had LAN, and didn't need updates to work

>>545831057
This has been a common thing on consoles since 2013 in all fairness

Is it possible to have offline LAN parties in 5, MCC and Infinite?

>>545832081
>Is it possible to have offline LAN parties in 5
i THINK so
>MCC
yes, though not out of the box, you'll need to have updated the game at least once
>and Infinite?
no idea, probably not

>>545742839 (OP)
HIDE YO KIDS
HIDE YO WIFE

In 20 years, Infinite will be completely unplayable without some fanmade client.

nobody cars

I've never really thought about this before because I'm more mixed on the game but where does the Halo 3 AR compass point on the final mission?

>>545820598
It's still fucky even now. My computer crashes on Halo 3 BTB if i don't turn off the new armor pieces.

System link?
Offline LAN parties with the boys?
No Xbox Live gold?

Soul overload

el pozole

Shut the fuck up

>>545832081
I'm the meh
I am the meh

>>545834413
Nah, fuck you.
You don't get to tell pozoleposters to shut the fuck up.

Where does Dokibird fit into this?

>>545834413
AAAAHWUBADUGH
HAIL BEEP
WOOOB WOB WOB

>>545834498
eezcomesdowndodidle

>>545833568
Halo 2's UI is so fucking crisp
Still the GOAT imo

“Halo Infinite will go on for 10 years”

(Barely even lasts 4 years)

>>545834781
>>545833568
Project Cartographer is better than H2 in MCC

>>545831476
It was so good though. It only seems to have aged poorly because everyone copied and iterated on it, much like Battle Royales with PUBG or skinner box shooters like Call of Duty (Try going back and playing old CODs, they feel so dated, even MW 1/2). Looter Shooters have evolved significantly over the last decade.

>>545834957
I mean that wouldn't surprise me
But MCC is just so much more convenient and populated

>>545835067
I mean MW2 was always overrated
CoD4 is alright but the infinitely spawning enemies is a chore
Black Ops 1 is cool but it's more of a movie than a game in the way that it's good, though it does have some solid maps and the cod points system was nice.
MW3 is actually really underrated.
Blops 2 is peak CoD.

Halofest should have more Halo 2.

>>545835307
>MW3 is actually really underrated.
>Blops 2 is peak CoD.
Based.

>>545835137
>and populated
is it?

>>545836015
NTA but it is if you like to play snipers and fiesta. Sword battle is pretty popular too.

>>545836015
Every single time I try to play 4v4 slayer I get a match within 5 minutes.

>>545836015
I just played like an hour and half of games tonight, mostly 3 but some CE and h2a and like 2 days ago i played a bunch of 2 mp, didn't have to wait more than 5 mins for a game.

The Regulars have abandoned Halo and would rather play Gays of War.
/hg/ is finished.

>BO2 is 960x540 on 360
>Considered GOAT to this day

What went so right here

>boot up MCC
>enemy team does every map specific meta
>teammates consist of a retard, his guest and a guy who can't move and shoot at the same time
Home...

>>545836837
>a guy who can't move and shoot at the same time
These are the most confusing people I've ever seen. Last time I played with a guy like that was in ODST Firefight. Dude even had to take time to pull the trigger. I don't know how these people do it.

>>545832081
5 requires a Windows PC on the same network. I don't know if it requires you to be connected to the Internet as well.

>>545836760
60fps

>>545836760
>>545837861
Treyarch improved on what people liked between WaW, BO1, BO2 and BO3.

Bungie and 343 has been changing the game since Reach.

>>545838010
The only two Halo games that played similarly are 2 and 3, and even that is arguable because of 2's glitches.

>>545836760
Art Style > Frame Rate Consistency > Frame Rate Target >>> Aliasing >>>>>> muh resolution

>>545838238
>Art Style > Frame Rate Consistency > Frame Rate Target

Did Infinite have these?

>>545836730
what??
there's a new gears of war game out?

>>545836015
As someone that has been beating the drum of saying MCC is borderline dead outside of 3 and reach for many months, it's actually noticeably more populated now.
That does not mean you'll find people as quickly for every game/mode combination still, but it's the best it has been in quite a while
I think the death of infinite has done a number on it

>>545838624
Theres that new gears 1 remake, idk how well it did though

>>545838740
ah yes are you gonna play it?

>>545838740
Gearsbros... Do NOT open.

Halo on Switch 2

>>545838923
no, i already played gears1 ages ago and i never cared for the mp

>>545838238
It's funny how reach was a failure in each of those aspects.

*Ahem*
Halo: Campaign Evolved

year 25 of the halo century of humilation

>>545840448
15*

>>545840215
will be great

>>545840212
>that pic
Soul vs Soul

...


https://x.com/bentoDRAWS/status/1987241408600940663

>>545843578
Why are people being so fucking dramatic? Oh no we won't get our quarter yearly store and battle pass cosmetic slop updates the horror!

>>545844254
We're just having fun

>>545844254
>>545845981
>Halo fans enjoying the game for what it is
>Halo fans being angry, bitter, cynical, salty, constantly whining

The duality of the Halo fandom

>>545844254
Infinite is only being played for those "quarter yearly store and battle pass cosmetic slop updates". Without them, people will just move on to better games.

>>545846150
I can't speak for everyone
For me, it's more about laughing at the 10 year plan being a failure
Obviously the game isn't actually dead or anything just because it' not getting anymore content

>>545843578
Lmao, zoomers really ate up Infinite

>>545844254
They are emotional sisters

>>545846157
I guess this is another example of "I'm too fucking old to understand people playing purely for cosmetics".

Infinite will have like 500 players in 2 months

Rusty as fuck, but playing some MCC mods has been an interesting experience so far.
>Trooper Firefight
Lots of cool ideas, but way too much of a clusterfuck. No weapon hud icons kinda makes it iffy to know what's what, especially in the first person demo, and slowing the player down on damage is kinda super shit since even a scratch dogpiles into a death. Makes me wonder how Halo with a SOCOM playstyle over top the player's head would play.
>Sierra 117 Nighttime (H3 on ODST)
Was very interesting at first, if buggy with the bloom being blown out on anything glowing when VISR was on, but then the dev throws an absolute clusterfuck later in the mission and.. AUG rifles? Feels like a test bed of shit thrown at a wall, not sure if I wanna try the others.
>Second Strike
Fun, if a bit awkward on navigation of empty spaces at times and I think I skipped an AA turret somehow. Nice CE-in-2 feel to it.

What are your favorite mods?

>>545846496
Me too, but when I browse the Halo communities for Infinite, they always talk about the best way to grind for cosmetics or they bitch about shitty teammates who get in the of of their grinding. People don't play Infinite to get to most frags, cap the most flags or whatever. Enjoying a BTB CTF for the sake of enjoying it seems to be alien to them.

>>545846496
>>545846880
>No exp
>No cosmetics
>No grinding

CE? King

>>545846880
It's the nature of the game. When Reach was the in thing I remember people trying to find ways to game XP but at least you could earn shit in-game. With Infinite having so many vaulted items but also requiring basically everything to work towards XP of some sort as people either level passes or hunt for the Hero rank, a lot of the fun got optimized out in favor of XP. Happens with many games, cosmetics or otherwise; Battlefield 6 is suffering from shit challenges and low XP rates that the devs are trying to fix and tons of people prioritized the grind, though BF6 puts actual good weapons and equipment behind that shit. You're gonna see it happen with Black Ops 6, too.
With everything so focused on unlocks and cosmetics nowadays, you need friend groups or to just ignore a lot of online shit to get basic interactions at this point.

>>545846880
It's not even a Halo community problem, it's universal. The "ugh why would I play if I can't unlock/grind anything?" mindset is everywhere.
I genuinely don't know how this happened, I ran away from the AAA and mainstream games after 2012. Did battlepasses train people to only play for unlocking things reasons?

>>545843578
:(

>>545846856
>certified kino
Ruby's Rebalanced Halo CE
Havok Mod
Yet Another Marine Campaign Mod.
Ultimate Firefight
SPV3

>things to look forward to
New Covenant
Civil Unrest (currently unavailable to the public)
Ruby's Rebalanced Halo 2
Halo Effect
Halo Reach: Evolved

There are probably other mods you'd like on the Workshop. Feel free to give them a shot.

>Shitfinite ranked goes stone cold dead as soon as you reach this time even on a weekend
I appreciate that rank matching and the utter inanity of having separate arena and slayer playlists doesn't help anything but I am going to choose to assume this means only the role playing manchild goofs are still playing this game.

>>545847574
Cosmetics and the grind for cosmetics (and guns, see Call of Duty) became THE social glue for multiplayer games. People play modern games to get new cool looking stuff or to show off the cool looking stuff they've "earned". In some cases, like in Counter Strike, people play the game for the tiny chance of making a quick buck with weapon skins.

>>545847704
I estimate it's mostly just Ranked. Looking at my usual go-to of Firefight, even with just Fiestas on the composer, that's got a good find speed right now, same as it usually is.

Honestly as someone playing on the XSX personally, I genuinely think it's mostly the Steam version that's dead. Xbox players were able to massively bolster Helldivers 2 on their launch day, there's likely an undercurrent of Xbox players for Infinite that the Steam charts will never be able to tell you. Which just goes to show that Ranked ain't doing so hot.

It really fucking annoys me when the match is 2v4, the score is a steaktacular, and guys still chicken out of a 1v1, dude your teammate is going to shoot me in the back 0.1s after this anyways.

>Steaktacular is a reference to Frankie being a shitter
Love to see it.

>>545846263
very hater desu

>>545847635
Halo 2 with Halo 1 style medkits, even new Covenant medkits for Arbiter is such a cool idea for a mod. It is taking too long to make however.

>>545757724
why are you doing this

>>545777736
/hg/ mostly exists to shit on Halo Studios/343 Industries

>>545777736
*kneels*

>>545846856
>CE
SPV3, Ruby's Rebalance, Ocarina of Time map, All the old Custom Edition ginormous maps with silly weapons and vehicles and AI (Coldsnap, Extinction, Hugeass, etc.).
I still need to give Havok, Better with friends, and a couple of others a proper playthrough. CE in general has such a mountain of mods to go through thanks to Custom Edition.
>2
Halo 2 Uncut for now until Ruby's Rebalance gets released (There's a severe lack of Halo 2 mods tbqh)
>3
Ultimate Firefight, Ruby's Rebalance (I only got to play a little bit of it, but I liked what I played and I keep rewatching his vidoc for it because it seems like it would have been so fun, kicking myself for procrastinating), Pimps at Sea, The Golden City (and a couple of other missions by the same modder), the AI battle mods are also a good time
>Reach
Ruby's Rebalance, Mythic Overhaul (And its firefight spinoff), and there was one more where you had extra Spartan allies but also more enemies and there were new weapons
>4
Genesong Cut (Makes fighting Prometheans so fun), and Mythic Overhaul

>>545854804
Honestly seeing the development videos, it's kind of fucky how weird the health system for 2 is.
>we wanna do a full regen system late in development, lets just make health recover on its own now
>so we give the player very little overall health because we didn't have time to balance pass this shit before release
>and uhhh, every single time a checkpoint triggers, just so there isn't some weird softlock or death loop, we should make their health automatically go back to max
>and we did this so late that the medkit code is still 100% intact in the map tags, we just stripped out the medkits
I don't even want to imagine the hacky shit they figured out to save the current health just for keeping it from being reset every single checkpoint.

>>545847635
Good list.

>>545777736
Yes that's right, we famously worship and only talk about 343i games in a positive manner here.
Also lmao going to /v/ in 2025.

>>545857761
>There's a severe lack of Halo 2 mods tbqh

Isn't Halo 2 the hardest to mod?

>>545858061
Easiest actually. The damage Inferno did to that games modding reputation is hilarious.

>>545858061
I can imagine its biggest problem is likely barrels of duct tape everywhere, but the way some of these mods seem, people have the tools and the tags; they just gotta give a fuck, and why bother with 2 normally when 3 is right there in most people's eyes?

Meet Potential Game!
>The lighting would have looked so good if the Xbox could have handled it
>The story would have been so good if Bungie could have finished it
>The gameplay would be so good if it wasn't Vista
>Just wait until Arbiter's playable again
>Dual wielding will catch on eventually
>Competitive players will drop 3 some day!
>Give me liberty, give me fire, give me glitches and bugged combos or I retire
>0 matchmaking games, 0 custom lobbies, 7 players total

>>545860510
I heard that's not Halo

>>545858536
Halo 2 has functional Elite artificial intelligence and unique Brute behaviors that Halo 3 stripped the game of completely for the sake of simplicity. Halo 3 might have added more shit to the sandbox in sheer quantity but Halo 2 has everything you actually need in place to make good mods already, even the medkit code is still there from Combat Evolved.

GOOD MORNING MINTO

>>545840212
the blue filter sucks the soul out of the image
halo 2 is supposed to be gloomy
it's a world being drained by endless war
eventually everything will look like all the delta halo ruins - which is the same color pallet as the flood

GOOD MORNING BLEACH NATION

buying halo bf

;_;

>>545846856
The night time halo 3 campaign pack is great. The flashlight version is goated. In addition to making the game look gothic and vivid, it gives the assault rifle headshot capability which plays surprisingly well. There's also an incomplete mod pack that puts halo 3's levels in odst's engine with some new weapons and they look and play a lot better than the originals.

Bleacharounds fuck off

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but what about the jesus themes?

If roblox is the most popular game right now, do you really think people give a single fuck about graphics? Shitfinite looks like the mona lisa to most gamers.

jjab themes above

>>545858879
Funny how Halo 2 is still better than anything since Combat Evolved despite those shortcomings. Also ignoring that Bungie were creatively bankrupt going forward, they put all their remaining creativity into Halo 2 and then stopped caring after this because they wanted to leave Microsoft and it shows in their games.

>>545871961
It is a bit wild now how Halo 3 doesn’t feel quite as special as CE and 2 but I struggle to put my finger on what exactly

Pozole

>>545870440
It's popular because it'll run on a piece of shit, which is all its playerbase of literal children have access to at their age. Let's not pretend the majority of parents have the money to spend to buy their kids a powerful desktop.

>>545882704
I think you've missed the point entirely.

>>545882909
No, you've missed what I've implied. They don't care about graphics as a cope, as soon as these kids grow up and have money of their own to spend on consoles and machines, they start caring about graphics 90% of the time, and it's been this way for about 20 years.

That's not to say they'd suddenly be playing Infinite though, kids don't give a fuck about Halo for the most part, it's an old man's game for 30 somethings, the odd 20 something.

>>545883189
you're more retarded than i thought

>>545883674
>le lower case response
Okay fuck off then

>>545883771
fuck off to where, retard? are you gonna ban me from the server? blow it out your ass, you narcissistic faggot.

ugh why would I play Halo if I can't sprint anywhere
it's akin to driving a nascar with a defunct brake. you are handicapping yourself at that point.

cheefag is campaigning on /v/ again

>>545883189
This is correct. Those kids do care about graphics. They're the ones watching GTA6 trailers over and over again.

Halo Campaign Evolved looks like shit.

>>545892727
Unfortunately this isn't true

Everyone at church today?

FORGE IS DOWN

>>545897405
i already have a wife, church has no value to me now

>>545897501
AAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>545897626
You could cheat on her with a cute boy who goes to church. Think of the possibilities.

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>>545898441
Terminated series. Microsoft will continue to drop money into this dead game but its been over for a long long time

(1/2)
It's been 21 years, so can we finally admit Halo 2's campaign sucks? I've just replayed it on Heroic and it dawned on me that NONE of the guns feel satisfying to use aside from the Fuel Rod. Every weapon in Halo 1 felt satisfying even on Legendary, but in Halo 2 the feedback is just meh.
>All the dual-wieldable weapons got nerfed when single-wielded (WTF happened to the Needler?)
>Dual-wielding basically just makes them as useful as they were in CE...except no it doesn't since now you can't melee or use nades
>Shotgun is completely useless, except in enemy hands apparently which is when it magically becomes the CE shotgun
>The Battle Rifle is actually pretty fun but that don't mean shit when you can only hold 3 spare magazines
>The Sniper and Fuel Rod are like the only guns that can hold more than 3 spare mags; everything was better in CE
>They could've made the Carbine a battery-powered Plasma weapon, but instead it's a Temu BR
The actual enemies are a downgrade from CE too:
>The Elites feel dumber
>There's rarely more than 5 actors on-screen at once, so the Flood's swarm tactics got replaced with bullet sponge tactics
>Brutes are not fun to fight at all
>God damn Jackal snipers everywhere
It's also a VERY frontloaded campaign as the game peaks with the Scarab Fight in Metropolis. Halo 2 has way too many wave defense scenes, and if you're not holding position you're instead running down a narrow corridor with few tactical avenues. "Shooting Gallery" and the gravity bridge Drones in High Charity have also got to be the WORST parts of ANY Halo.
There's not a single enjoyable vehicle section either:
>Splatters are boring as vehicles don't feel weighty anymore (they can even can now stop on a dime now)
>You never get wide open spaces to drive around in
>Scorpion's blast radius got nerfed massively, so it's no longer an artillery game but a corridor shooter
>The Scorpion can't even one-shot a Banshee lol

>>545905902
(2/2)
The music and story are 10/10 though. I was also surprised to find I liked High Charity MORE this time around. As much as I bitched about the gravity bridge part, much of the level feels almost like a Resident Evil game as it's not always wise to fight; sometimes you need to bait the AI into fighting each other to give yourself an opening to run, which is great fucking stuff, I love that.

>>545906205
(3/3)
Halo 2 was not a lightning in a bottle, for that matter.

>>545905902
link to the x/reddit post?

>>545905902
>Heroic
>bitching about Jackal snipers
Weak.

>>545906678
The point is that even on Heroic, the guns feel worse than CE on Legendary.

Jaime Griesemer:
>Halo 2 was NOT balanced
https://youtu.be/8YJ53skc-k4?t=429

>>545905902
I didn't grow up on Halo 2 so I never understood the cult following with it. I have to imagine it was more the time period since LAN parties were common.

I think the thing that hurts the most is that Halo 2 did not feel like a sequel. Halo CE might as well have been an entirely different and isolated game. Almost like how Bioshock Infinite completely dropped the tone and universe of Bioshock 1&2.

Halo 3 improved on pretty much everything except for the writing, and was just an overall much better game.

>>545907213
The Halo 2 Sniper Rifle was for retards.
Even me, a retard who can't snipe in CE can reliably kill people with it in Halo 2.

>>545907324
>Halo 3 improved on pretty much everything except for the writing
3's biggest step back was the Brutes. Halo 3's Brutes are more fun to fight than Halo 2's Brutes, but they're not nearly as fun to fight as Halo 2's Elites.

>>545897501
FORGE IS BACK UP
ALL UNITS
MAC AWAY
HELL JUMPERS - HELL JUM - HELL J - HEL - HE - HE - HE - H
LOCAL UNITS
I AM THE ARBITTTTTERRR

It should have been Jerome's Big Adventure instead of Combat Redeemed.

>>545908428
There will be an other time.

>>545805427
Yep. This is from last week.

>>545908943
I say we pick on the DayZ community
Show them why we were chosen

This was then.
This is now.

>>545909517
that's just xbox

>>545840212
>that bottom pic
What mod is this?
WOW! I NEED TO PLAY HALO 2 NOW!!! HAPPY 21TH BIRTHDAY HALO 2!!!

>>545905902
Wait, holy fuck, I had no idea TODAY was Halo 2's 21st birthday. What possessed me to play Halo 2 today??

>>545908521
But i want it NOW

It's not up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8PkqPTZHkw

Is this the halo thread?

>>545909517
>this is shitlo 5
>168th place
LMAO

>>545909517
Why does Black Ops 2 still have so many players?

>>545910813
console players don't have custom zombies

>>545910672
>>545910941
that's just xbox

>>545910930
Makes sense. I never got into zombies because I didn't buy any of the DLCs and Tranzit was terrible.

>>545910941
>State of Decay 2 that low
SoD2 bros...

>>545910609
I can't help but think that this mod is so much fucking effort for no reward. A dozen people play it and you can't use it on your portfolio for any professional career.
Years well spent?

>>545910609
just watched his video on balancing the covenant and in the first 30 seconds he demonstrated that he has absolutely no idea what 30 seconds of fun actually means. he and so many others could just go ask jaime griesemer what he meant, or go back to the original material, but they prefer to just beg the question. ruby is a subjectivist, making it up as he goes along. we just have to hope he accidentally makes something that isn't too far removed from vanilla halo 2.

>>545911408
>you can't use it on your portfolio for any professional career
You silly little Anon.

>>545911408
For fun. Is a hobby and a passion project. And believe me, more than a dozen people will play it.

>>545910941
>oblivion remaster that low
>scroll down
>gears reloaded even lower
But the 34Studio shill keep saying that the HCE remake will revive Halo? HAHAHAHAHA!!!

>>545911042
black ops 2 had the best and worst zombies maps and no gobblegum

>>545911490
Like a lot of modders, he's a Halo 1 fanboy so he's leaning toward that when designing enemies.

.

>>545911531
No one is going to take "oh yeah I modified 20 year old low res assets" seriously.
>t. hard surface artist that's done freelance work for various studios

>>545911490
>he has absolutely no idea what 30 seconds of fun actually means
What is it meant to mean? I always thought it meant that you should break heavy-hitting action into 30 second chunks

Ruby is fine.
His mods are fine.
The obsession with "improving" the experience as opposed to just accepting that it's a fun mod you're making, while not exclusive to Ruby, is cringe.

>>545912205
After reading my post you have landed on the decision to ask me?

>>545912448
>The obsession with "improving" the experience as opposed to just accepting that it's a fun mod you're making
What a silly observation.

Finally some good fucking food.
>get A/B testing thumbnail
Damn, I wanted the other one.

>>545828338
Gay pride.

>>545912504
Yes, because I'm not going to give Ruby the satisfaction of views after you made him out to be such a faggot. The context is yours to fill

>>545913385
It seems now you didn't read my post in full. Or you're special needs. Either way, I'm not answering your stupid question.

>>545911490
>>545911843
redpill is most modders are retarded and really don't understand gameplay balancing.

the final product of games is the culmination of dozens of professional adults tweaking the gameplay for thousands of hours and performing trials. but people are naive and think they can "do it better". Which usually just means overloading the game with so much shit that it's unrecognizable. See SPV3 for an example.

>>545912448
>thing is shit and incomplete
>acknowledged by creators as shit and incomplete
>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T CALL THE MOD POLISHING IT POLISHED

>>545906773
>>545905902
Oh yeah heroic snipers I still have my webm of that

>>545913836
>appeal to authority

>>545914076
it's not appeal to authority you retard. the whole point is that modders think they can improve the sandbox created by dozens of people who have already spent hundreds of hours of tweaking it.

that's like buying a new car and immediately gutting it and replacing the engine with a 2 stroke dirt bike engine because it's better "in your opinion"

>>545913719
Way to be such a cunt. What is even the point of posting on a messageboard if you're not going to say anything worthy of discussion, and refuse invitations thereof? I read your post in full, and you did not elaborate your idea any further than "go watch old interviews of Griesemer". How about you go fuck yourself and do your talking yourself, because Ruby's own interpretation (which you have not actually critiqued) is itself proof that watching Griesemer interviews is alone insufficient to understand your hypothetical argument. Are you just trolling or what?

>>545913836
it's not a redpill if it's the common consensus

>>545914335
>they spent longer and did it as a job so it's automatically better
That is literally appeal to authority, and pic related is directly contrary to the rest of your sentence.
Halo 2's sandbox in particular is 99% worthless on any difficulty higher than Normal, and designing weapons that encourage a player to actually use them is not a difficult feat. It's not some arcane knowledge you can only figure out after making a rushed, half-finished title.

>>545914335
>modders think they can improve the sandbox
Yeah, they can
>dozens of people who have already spent hundreds of hours of tweaking it
What part of the Brute AI do you feel was indicative of dozens of hours worth of tweaking, as opposed to indicative of the rush job Bungie admitted Halo 2 to be?

>>545914424
This is pathetic anon. If you want people to do your bidding, berating them like this isn't going to work unless they want in your pussyhole. And I'm not partial to axe wounds.

>>545914335
Hobbyist car guys know more about cars than most people who actually design and build cars.

Did you know that the Hunters instantly turning 180 degrees in the spam of one frame to expose their weakness whenever they touch an explosion reflects hundreds of hours of tweaking? tweaking on meth, maybe.

I miss it.

>>545912873
Ruby pls. I don't have anything against you personally.
>>545913907
Bad Stamrawman.

>>545915026
This is also something worth noting. Hobbyists put way more time into something than a QA team every could, and will pick up on imperfections just by nature of playing a game for 20 years straight. Developers usually aren't even that good at their own games, Bungie sure weren't.

>>545914335
they didn't spend dozens of hours tweaking it
they gave a vague description and delegated it to their programmers
see>>545907213

We got too cocky reachicans...

>>545914895
>berating them like this
Remind me again who is the fucker who called the other person special needs and kept redirecting them to "read my post in full" as if that hadn't already occured?

>>545915295
Not Halo

>>545915295
turns out both wokes are just ONI agents

>>545915295
Why is he engaging with the mexican catboys?

>>545915394
The difference is you're the one who wants something and I couldn't care less as to whether you get it or not. You're insanely defensive right now anon. You could've spent all this time looking for the information yourself but instead you're right here - projecting yourself into a frenzy.

>>545914637
unfortunately not common enough

>>545914682
>What part of the Brute AI do you feel was indicative of dozens of hours worth of tweaking, as opposed to indicative of the rush job Bungie admitted Halo 2 to be?
because it's fine. the game isn't unplayable, is it? just because it's not to YOUR liking, doesn't mean it's broken.

>>545915026
>non-professionals are better than professionals
sure thing pal :)
you realize it's a lot easier to refactor a finished product than it is to create a new one?

>>545915293
just because something "wasn't balanced" doesn't mean it's necessarily bad. it clearly worked OK enough in the game after all. modders tend to skew all of the values in the extreme opposite direction. I don't get this argument. Sometimes stars align and things work out OK without needing deep intervention.

Just admit it, anon. You don't know what the 30 seconds of fun means.

>>545915895
What's in it for me? I'll remind you that I'm not interested in your axe wound.

>>545915846
>appeal to authority

it's called 30 seconds of fun because thats how long until you refund shitlo and buy a better game

>>545915295
The Kosher Halo must be utterly defeated by any means necessary.

>>545916084
>y-y-you... logical fallacy!! AAAAAAA I'M TELLING MOM
okay reddit

>>545916006
Just put on the tripcode so I can filter you.

cmon guys
It's Christmas

>>545916271
I accept your concession.

>>545916117
That's how long it takes to google 30 seconds of fun original quote before making a rebalance mod.

>>545916391
I don't believe for 1 second, let alone 30 that you would have been nice to me if I caved to your demands. Or that you would have respected me for it. Your parents should have told you no more often.

>>545917009
Your posts provide nothing of value besides bumping this thread.
Thanks btw.

>>545917181
Have you googled it yet?

>>545913836
Halo 2's balance sucks. We know it sucks. Bungie knew it sucked. Everybody knows it sucks except those that don't play above Normal and don't listen to the development or nuanced game talk on these things. You want to be a whiny little cunt about the silliest of things, no one really cares that much, but at the bare minimum have a modicum of dignity, a mere passage of momentary revelation perhaps, to realize you're just being retarded.

My posts provide nothing of value besides bumping my thread.
I'm thankful for existing.

>>545917281
Have you? We both know you can't explain what the 30 seconds of fun is in your own words.

/hg/ is woke right, you know this is true

>>545917728
Nah, it's soi right.

>>545915801
>be a retard
>post retarded paragraph
>nobody took it seriously
>save face by accusing the other party of projection (???)

>>545917421
>>545918030
The moral of this story is that I was right about you. If society was well and just, your parents would go away for a long time for inflicting you upon the world. You don't actually care whether I know or not, you just want to poke holes in people and drink what flows from the wound. You are the ghoul that walks among us and thirsts for our throats.

What a huge a faggot. So full of himself.

>>545918321
>Y-you don't actually care....h-how could you?
Yeah I really did just spit in the face of all goodwill. I'm bad to the bone.

This general makes me tired.

Jaime Griesemer: "In Halo 1, there was maybe 30 seconds of fun that happened over and over and over again, so if you can get 30 seconds of fun, you can pretty much stretch that out to be an entire game. Encountering a bunch of guys, melee attacking one of them before they were aware, throwing a grenade into a group of other guys, and then cleaning up the stragglers before they could surround you. And so you can have all the great graphics, and all the different characters, and lots of different weapons with amazing effects, but if you don't nail that 30 seconds, you're not gonna have a great game."

>>545918775
Yeah, but did you read Anon's post in full?

>>545918675
We need to get the game sessions rolling again
There's nothing to discuss now that both shitfinite and CEM are on death row
I'm glad there's a halofest planned but it would be nice if we could get something before

>>545919537
Gears of War 3 will be played

>>545919818
Not Halo, sadly.

>>545919537
maybe you should just plug in a mic

I will die before I unmute.

>>545920441
this is why you will never be on the council

>>545919818
>Gears of War 3 will be played
unironically based

There is no council.

>>545919930
>Not Ha-ACK

>>545921087
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

someone just got done
Bigly so

Reminder that Tom Clancy is also Halo

Wait, Ruby's is a fat fuck doughboy?

>>545921087
All I see is latency and someone playing like shit.

30 seconds of fun thats whay she said.

>>545921848
Yeah I always cringe when people's avatars look NOTHING like them. His twink anime avatar is short a few dozen kilograms

Why did they have to shove sprint into Campaign Evolved bros....

I think we all saw this coming but I wanted to believe in them :'(

Portable 3rd is being played.

>>545922476
I don't care anymore
I'm just gonna play MCC

Halo Campaign Balance

>CE
Almost Perfect
>2
Really Bad; Game is a chore to play.
>3
Pretty good, if a little on the easy side
>ODST
Pretty good, if a little on the easy side
>Reach
Fine, but a little tedious
>4
Meh, most enemies are really boring while also being too tanky
>5
Dunno, but from gameplay footage it looks like a slog
>∞
Surprisingly Good

>>545922559
my friend made a comment like "well we're all going to buy it.."
Actually no, can we let this franchise RIP?

>>545922973
>my friend made a comment like "well we're all going to buy it..."
I'll get it yeah, I still have gamepass stacked up through early 2028, but I'm done getting excited for for or thinking about 343 halo projects

>>545922847
To each his own but Halo 2 plays fine for me.
It's hard, but on Heroic I can make use of most of the Sandbox and be fine.
I agree legendary is more of a slog if that's what you mean.

>>545921087
player getting staggered out of melee attacks like a pussy ass bitch is indeed not halo

>>545922847
agree with everything, especially 2. People shit on CE's level recycling, but I'd rather play those levels than 80% of Halo 2.

Halo reach would be on par with Halo 3 for me if it weren't so repetitive. So many overdone encounters. The first level especially is so bad that it's fully stopped me from wanting to do playthroughs again. I like that elites in reach actually feel formidable.

>>545922847
I think 2 legendary has more longevity than ce's or 3's. Meaning you can enjoy it more over time. 3 and ce play largely the same on legendary as they do on normal but 2 legendary is like a different game entirely. new avenues to explore. more than just an achievement for 100 gamerscore. Feel similarly about reach legendary with tilt thunderstorm. game plays completely differently with you having more health to get in close but needing more than just the dmr to make it through.

>>545922476
I'm more concerned it's no longer borderline placebo like Infinite.

Can you play MCC games in 4:3 or would it be easier to just download CE and Project Cartographer

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>>545927149
why?

>>545927197
I don't know. That would defeat the purpose.

>>545927328
weirdo

>>545927378
The jannies will decide your fate.

>>545927539
announcing a report is against the rules, Anon

>>545927609
Correct but what does that have to do with anything?

>>545925404
Maybe for the campaigns it's an actual speed boost for convenience to get around quicker, but with the new multiplayer game it will be a placebo again. And since you can disable it in the campaign for those that hate it, they figure might as well go all the way for the players that do like sprint, making everyone happy. That being said, this is 343, so there's no telling how bad they're gonna disappoint us and pick the worst option possible that pisses off everyone.

>>545924797
You are a legitimate retard, Reach has the easiest and fastest to best first level of all time, you can skip past most of the things you are whining about and finish the stage in less than 15 minutes. You don't even seem to realize you don't need to defeat every enemy in every corner of the stage if you don't feel like it.

>>545928309
>skipping encounters
You didn't beat the game.

>>545928309
>you can just walk past the enemies bro!!
that was literally my point. I play games for entertainment not to hold W and occasionally tap M1. the first level is a fucking snoozefest chore. and it's not even a good tutorial nor introduction to the story

you're a clown

>>545928427
>Playing through every scripted encounter every single time like an obedient dog on a leash.
You never learned the game enough to be qualified to judge it.

>>545928829
You didn't beat the game.

>tried to play h2 on xemu with insignia
>game lags
Oh man...what is the xbox emulation so bad? I can't even remap the keybinds.

>>545929009
No one cares about Xbox emulation.
That's why Nintendo gets the best emulators.

>>545928729
>Level is waaaaay too repetitive of a slog for me!
>Um actually nevermind, level is too fast because I don't have to do any repetitive tasks!
You are moving the goal posts you fucking retarded clown.

You're both clowns. Now have graphic gay sex.

>>545929235
Reach is so bad that you actively want to skip everything you can because the combat is simply unfun.

>>545929235
where did I say it was fast? you're stuffing as many words in my mouth as your mom has black cocks stuffed in her ass.

also, why can't supposedly fast things also be repetitive? mopping the floor is repetitive and only takes 10 minutes, but I still hate doing it.

>>545929385
I agree to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=16&v=JNpkNYngSvs&feature=youtu.be

All the Cemake had to do was to look like this.

>>545931916
This looks like shit.

Microsoft death squads WILL be knocking on your door soon.

>>545931772
>said the cartel spic that wants sprint in halo just to practice the sprint for the border patrol

>>545931916
what mod is this?

>>545932423
wat

>>545932397
Not so fast.

>>545931916
Kino.

>>545911997
no I love it, but thats why I want it to die. like an elderly relative on hospice, everyone knows their on deaths door and suffering but they keep dragging it along on the false hope that their just gonna hop out of bed like nothing happened and it will be just like the good old days when we all know its just delaying the inevitable for selfish reasons.

It's kind of funny how I immediately don't take any ESL opinion on Halo seriously not even for the usual reasons but because legitimately anybody that's first language isn't English being a Halo fan (let alone having experienced active multiplayer at any point) is an anomaly, there's so few things I can say that about besides handegg and NASCAR.

>>545931916
AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>545933276
Counterpoint: Mexicans.

>>545933537
Yes but why would I listen to Mexicans anyways

>>545933656
This is a Mexican general, Anon.

>>545932623
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3211946647

IP grabber above

He can grab my IP, if you know what I mean. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

>>545935880
>>545935942
it's so I can track you down and kiss you on the mouth

>>545931845
>view comments
>JJAB
i can't escape you retards ;-;

I've never understood why so many Halo single-player mods are just remixes, rebalanced gameplay or Halo X in Halo Y. People already like the core gameplay of a particular game. There might be some rough edges but things are relatively balanced in the games. I'm just surprised the mission pack route is so underrepresented.

>>545942291
Making a level is much more difficult than just moving around enemies or changing some numbers.

>>545942291
>>545944264
rebalances are low-hanging fruit. a lot of busywork which autists love. spreadsheets and minor adjustments to feel like they are making something new. It's a bit of a scourge on the community because half the mods are very low-effort asset or tag swaps.

creating something new is genuinely really difficult. there's a few isolated examples on workshop of people who have created their own levels, but they're extremely rough. Inferno's pirate ship map is mostly just code-heavy and not really an actual map with complex geography. Even in the Halo: Custom Edition days, a lot of maps used copy+pasted geography from other official maps. Which was actually pretty nice because the art style was consistent. But then there's examples like SPV3 that are just an absolute cluster fuck of digital diarrhea

Hell, that's why the original COD zombies maps were all just modified campaign/multiplayer levels. Even moon on BLOPS1 started from geography of Paris that was either a cut level or from a different COD, can't remember.

>>545945458
That's true for a lot of games, to be fair. They're all something easy to put together, and Halo's tools are not very easy to make something from scratch with.

>>545945458
That reminds me the warehouse from CoD4 Pipeline multiplayer map was used again in a MW3 campaign level back then.

>>545945458
Yeah but combining levels to make something that feels totally new should be relatively easy. Reach especially takes place on one coherent planet for most of the game with similar feeling outdoor areas that should be simple enough to stich together to create a level that feels new and then you can have a level within a city that leads into an indoor base environment which the game also has enough of that feel similar enough you can stich together to make a new city and base level. Same with Covenant interiors including multiplayer maps. You can create a whole narrative just from mixing and matching existing maps.

>>545945458
I think it's fine to reuse textures. Halo 1 in particular is simple and clean. It's entirely new encounters and situations that are appealing. I don't know much about Call of Duty, just a tiny bit of 1-4 and the one with Kevin Spacey in it.

>>545942291
>>545944264
>>545945458
Pretty much all this. On a difficulty scale, modifying an existing level is playing on Easy, but making an entirely new level from scratch is playing on LASO. It requires a decent amount of knowledge in how BSP geometry works, aswell as extensive knowledge in a 3D program of some kind. Back then, the Vidocs showed that Bungie used 3DS Max. Nowadays, though, Blender is what's mainly used atleast, in all the tutorials. There's also other factors, those being:
>Texturing the entire level, which is a headache all on its own, especially if your using original stuff, then getting those textures to show up in the editor aswell as the game itself is a tedious job all on its own.
>Testing the level extensively to ensure there isn't something you've missed, like a bad seam that lets you fall through the level, or some material fuckery that doesn't play well with MCC, or just unexplainable crashes in general
>Exploits that could be used in MP, such as geometry seams that the player could stand on, OOB exploits, etc.
God fucking help you if you're making a playable mission of some kind, too, or even worse: an entire campaign. A simple MP level isn't too difficult, but with a mission, you have several other hurdles added onto it, those being AI, BSP swapping, voice acting, cutscenes, even MORE testing, ensuring the level is stable/optimized, the occasional unexplainable crash, and just scripting as a whole. Also, by far the biggest issue of them all:
>Putting in all this effort and time, then putting it onto the workshop, only for less then 10 people to download it in it's entire lifespan, and half of those people just tell you it sucks, without any actual details as to why it sucks. There's also the large possibility that a MCC update will break the mod, forcing you to work on it again.

TL;DR, Custom levels are a passion project, requiring intense dedication, for very little in return, aside from personal satisfaction.

Come, Jega, Tremonius. These are the last nine days of Halo Infinite.

Man, what if the new multiplayer Halo game is the same exact deal with Infinite, where they over promise and then on release we get an unfinished, rushed product that takes 5 years to get to a proper release build and we get drip-fed updates along the way. I don't think I can handle another Halo Infinite-esque live-service, bros...

And remember, this is 343. While they claim to learn from their mistakes and take player feedback, they never actually do learn and ignore all feedback given to them. I don't feel so good about this.

Cortana made it past the qualifiers for Queen of /v/!

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I want to make Cortana my scream queen.

Should've been Buntana.

>Buntana
Yeah, that's a man.