Thread 545959116

Opposite edition

>Demo Days
HAPPENING NOW: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65
Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-64
Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA

>AGDG resources
https://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw

>Helpful links
New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg
Archive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg/
/agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/
Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/

>How to Screen Record
https://getsharex.com/
https://obsproject.com

>How to Webm
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam

>Previous thread
>>545900295

happy demoday everybody

scifi game
pros:
synthwave
cons:
scifi
fantasy game
pros:
not scifi
cons:
boring

>>545959534
:)

>>545959534
love it

>>545959670
this but little girls with micro bikinis

>>545959670
not making a game
pros:
not making a game
cons:
not making a game

>>545959782
boku..

luld**e xisters, how can we recover?

pro tip: filter "xister", "xhe", "xe", "xer", etc. you can do it mentally aswell.

Are there any honest and kind programmers I can message on Disc for help regarding my Turn-Based Godot game? I specced into art and game design not coding.

>>545960608
>Are there any
Yes sure no problem buddy let's-
>honest and kind programmers
Uhm. I don't think this is gonna work out, good luck wish you the best!

I just watched this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLOuMXnM5wk
The idea that certain skills have a "kind" and certain skills have a "wicked" learning environment is very interesting. Gamedev is clearly a wicked world that requires wicked skills. I will become the Federer of video games.

>>545960608
I personally specced into programming heavily but unfortunately I like being solo.

I won

pls rate my joke.

Daniel Yaniqua jomez jhonson, was walking to his weekly allocated walking space in the only mall left on his town, before he was captured by ICE, because of his 4chan wikipedia edits he made where he claimed that he was 70% european and his DNA was a mixture of 10 diferent european nations, and that he was happier to vote for Trump after joining his local neo nazi facebook group with photos of her sister white bf.

>>545960608
Are you even good enough to be considered specialized? PYW

>>545960849
>Epstein

https://www.twitch.tv/nylad15

watching this streamer beat the earlier harder bokube BUILD instead of the newer easier edited based on feedback one makes me question your fucking gaming skills.

>>545960608
As a fellow artfag, Godot's language is relatively easy to learn. But honestly, look into the Godot discord, lots of people in the vc tend to help if you ask nicely

I got 3 downloads, so I think it's safe to say I won DD.

why is scifi so dead

>>545961136
transwiz killed it

I implemented new, queue-based animation system. It seems promising so far, but I'll have to see how it holds up with more complex behaviors.
Also omnidirectional movement.

>>545961282
I think I might finish the conversion in time to still submit before demo day ends.

>>545961050
>pissing time
nice stream

I need to spend tomorrow at work letting my brain hatch the image for this UI
too much noise at the moment

>>545961282
I think it’s looking pretty good for being the first game I’ll ever have released and coding it live here in the thread over the past 4-5 days.

>>545961627
He already finished and his gameplay was great.

Here's a shit ton of unity asset store assets to whoever redeems it

_43E66528BWYN7PV9KJVF

Just removed the underscore

Day four of working on my DF:Adventure mode + Elona/Elin inspired game. First game, firt time with Godot and c#. Destined to be shit

>>545961050
the jank will kill bokube's chances. It'd have way better chances without the jank. People told you to hire someone to fix art style or ui design, but what you actually need is for you to fix the last few game design and level issues as you are already doing, and then hire someone to fix the jank. People actually playing don't mind the graphics, they mind the jank. Skill game plus much jank equals bad time. Make them sign a contract, or something, and get it done. Might be difficult to hire someone while staying on unity2017, albeit. If trainwiz can upgrade underspace unity, maybe you, or the hired contracted programmer, can as well

10 years of bokube being in development!
here's to 10 more!

>>545961813
says not valid.

>>545962016
KEK

>>545962086
Oh you need to have the same billing address on your unity account as on humble bundle.
Sorry boku

how do I get cracked at godot?

>>545961330
Nice. It still looks kind of slippery, but if you can get it to a reasonably high quality and general purpose, you should document and open source it. Godot is in desperate need for a good off-the-shelf humanoid animation controller. I bet you could get a few hundred dollars per month in donations/subscribers. I'd personally slip you a grand.

I still have so many credits left after upgrading so I'm writing up some lyrics for a new song

>Why do you post instead of create
>Looking at what other devs have made
>It's possible for you to shine
>You just need to get on that grind

>>545961060
why would you assume programming syntax is the hard part of programming?

>>545962016
bokube will never have good chances if jank is not fixed, 10 years more or not. But if jank fixed, chances could be there

>>545962272
Why don't you ask your AI?

Need more aggy inspo.
NOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gta8y2EkYCs

>>545962272
This is pretty anti-agdg lyrics tho. This general runs on progress posts and helpful discussion. The purpose of progress posts as you already know is to get inspired and motivated by seeing the work of anons.

>>545962467
SIX SEVEN FUCK YEAH
Please don't sub so I can keep 67

Humblebundle anon.
>>545962251
Do you want a rigged animu 3d model or a hardsurface model? I got the code. You didnt specify so i beat boku to it.

>>545962503
False. The purpose of progress posts is so that nodevs can experience gamedev vicariously through others.

>>545962648
Based. I'm glad someone is able to use it.

>>545962451
Because it keeps using generic words and nonsense and having to clean up after it messes with my thinking more, I may ask it for suggestions though but I don't know for now I'm just writing down and it comes naturally

>>545962280
Gdscript reads closely to english

>>545962869
@Cris you have been summoned. Only you can write the most ludoest of the kino lyrics for agdg's new anthem.

>>545963097
bro, It's like 11PM.

Going to sleep.
lol

>>545962467
why is the same song reuploaded with a bochi the rock amv overlayed

>>545959534
False prophet begone.

>>545961890
cute!

>>545963180
Gn cristobal

>>545962503
Thanks for the inspo.

>Can't get my head straight
>Tranny, tranny, more like tyranny
>Bad apple ruining it for the rest
>This general's been a breeding nest

>Kitchen heat's getting too warm
>Iniative brews up a shitposting storm
>Post progress get aggressed
>Helpful discussion at last

>>545959534
hey where THE FUCK'S my game

>>545963614
>that bulge

How would (You) go about simulating rubber physics?


https://pastebin.com/XsaR6BFT
1.Abstract math like a RPG game where there's no objects smashing together.
2.Locations & objects that do interact together but with 0 collision boxes and extra which an object become bigger than the location it is in.
3.Real object simulation between multiple objects knocking into each other.

Man aren't you glad that anon devs don't have friendships like this?

>>545964935
What is it about AI generated things, I recognize it instantly from your pic

tomorrow is the day, my first day as an amateur gamedev
I will try to learn Lua
I know some basic thing in python, C and I can make painterly doodles
I hope those skills (if I have one) will be of some use

I am gmi.
You'll see.
You'll all see.

>>545964941
>Man aren't you glad that anon devs don't have friendships like this?

>>545965178
im blind

>>545965045
AI can't into CSS. It also uses emojis, I mean the new emojis, not the yahoo and AOL messenger ones.

You also have this tiny AI that fetches everything for you without having to copy-paste the code:
https://ohara.ai/

>>545965205
Do you browse 4chan using braille or TTS?

>>545964935
Hmmm...

don't know why it wasn't like this before...
grenades explode on impact.

a game where you kill bochitroons

>>545965045
you can tell it's a claude artifact because no human in their right mind would go through the work of meticulously adding every css detail while also looking so vanilla and utilitarian. it's information dense but with no sense of aesthetics

If AI isn't the future then explain this uber eats simulator I am vibe coding

>>545966148
>If AI isn't the future then explain this uber eats simulator I am vibe coding

>>545966558
Just like the GPU prices bubble, right? They're going to come down any minute now. :^)
Just like the AAA gaming industry bubble? anyyyy minute.
Or the SJW rampant in cartoons and how low budget and low amount cartoons have become and animae is eating their revenue.

>>545966964
>Just like the GPU prices bubble, right? They're going to come down any minute now. :^)
>Just like the AAA gaming industry bubble? anyyyy minute.
>Or the SJW rampant in cartoons and how low budget and low amount cartoons have become and animae is eating their revenue.

>>545966178
>>545967027
Bot?

>Want to build multiplayer Jurrasic Park Tycoon with SCP dinosaurs and aliens.
>Can't because it takes too fucking long as 1 dev to make it and there's no demographics that would like to play it/buy it.

Well guess I'm making Roblox games, the next Fortnite, CS GO, TF2, Overwatch and MMORPG futa porn with cryptocurrency.

Which one should I start with which is the fastest at making money?

>>545967171
>Bot?

>>545967486
I think making a multiplayer tycoon game sounds kind of tough
But I do think there is a severe lack of dino games out there and I encourage you to pursue that avenue

>>545967486
>>Want to build multiplayer Jurrasic Park Tycoon with SCP dinosaurs and aliens.
>>Can't because it takes too fucking long as 1 dev to make it and there's no demographics that would like to play it/buy it.

>Well guess I'm making Roblox games, the next Fortnite, CS GO, TF2, Overwatch and MMORPG futa porn with cryptocurrency.

>Which one should I start with which is the fastest at making money?

>>545961992
Upgrading his engine won't fix his shitty problems because he's a shit programmer

>>545967486
Don't forget the next Minecraft ... oh wait Vintage Story already covered that. Too bad its visuals are ugly as shit.

>>545966558
No one explains this properly. The reason AI is a bubble is because Google and Microsoft already monopolize enduser market. Everything normies do on computers is mostly through microsoft or google products. Even zoom is dying because microsoft has such a good control over B2B.
ChatGPT is genuinely shit. Ironically at some point AI with search (like chatgpt before it was lobotomized) was genuinely better than google even if it was wrong, because google usually just put reddit links at the top anyways.
But now all I use is Google's AI search. Literally RAG is the ONLY thing that make AI worthwhile and frankly even usable. Otherwise ChatGPT is just a reddit chatroom simulator. I miss when you could choose deepthink and search, now it just tries to interpolate. Also all the metrics are dogshit lies. Those AIs are literally trained on the fucking answers. I am a terrible programmer, and yet I am a better programmer than chatgpt. Literally the only thing I want it to do is explain APIs, libraries, and documentations. It can't even do that. It's so ass.
AI only kills normies because they have all their stats in verbal, social, and emotional intelligence.
Also... I kind of like it when gemini says no to me.
ChatGPT is kind of a lobotomized gimp, and yeah they threw a few metal spikes into gemini a few times now, but for a general purpose AI assistant I enjoy gemini. The only way OpenAI can compete is if they have major AI services that microsoft or google isn't offering. Like with the sora 2 shit, that stuff is fucking funny.
AI is am amazing, interesting, and impressive technology. But the fear mongerers are just grifters trying to exploit people's emotions. AI is decades away from destroying the world. Even now immigration, outsourcing, and automation (specialized machines) are still superior and still leading job loss in the US. The margin of error for AI is genuinely mathematically impossible for most companies to accept. It will become new officeware

>>545964910
this is kind of embarrassing but I um.. I look like this

>>545968082
proof?

Hello again AGDG. I haven't posted in almost in 10 years. Just been lurking. But today? Today I'm starting to make a new game. My first one in Godot.

>>545968165
cris you posted earlier today you're not fooling anyone

>>545967728
Whenever I played Zoo Tycoon in my mind I was thinking: man this is really boring if there's no spies breaking my walls and releasing all my wild animals to tear apart my visitors.
I was also thinking about "what if the animals were smart and it was actually like a RTS game where the Zerg builds bases inside my zoo and I have to control it while the dumb kids want to see the giant ultralisks and small pack of zerglings that could potentially tear you apart at any moment?" cause that's what Zoo Tycoon is, just Jurrasic Park but without all the action , there are no dinosaur mods but it being singleplayer with no respawning enemies and direct control over my zoo trainers makes it really fucking boring.
In my mind it has great potential for people to really get into it, but with today's generation of TikTokers I might be severely disappointed, especially considering how fucking hard the netcode is to make unless I'm working on an existing RTS engine.

So I guess I got to start small by making CS clones and Roblox slot machine games to make money to fund a team. At least I won't commit suicide when the fucking gen-alphas say "The fuck is a Jurrasic Park, grandpa? why are RTS games so hard, grandpa? I can't spread my attention in 3 different places this despite my ADHD."

does anyone need an artist?

>>545967806
It apparently fixed trainwiz's performance problems

new AGDG single:
https://vocaroo.com/1lXZkTXdGUDh

>>545968165
what's it about?

Not quite the kino I was looking for but it's okay.
>>>/wsg/6025046

>>545968316
> there ARE* dinosaur mods , but they don't change the gameplay mechanics at all
Freudian slip.

>>545968456
Retro PS2 horror. Still can't decide on fixed camera (RE2/SH) or over the shoulder (RE4). Fixed camera interests me more because I've made a few over the shoulder games so far. Haven't tackled such an ancient design challenge.

>>545968443
The only good music AI can do is rock music. It struggles hard on classical orchestral and it keeps fucking it up with pop shit.
What did you use for this?

Is programming and game making even for humans? We only live 80 years and it takes 3 years just to make 1 game. Maybe I should get into software development instead where the money is at and it helps /g/ in a real way.

>>545968390
This is bigger than that

>>545968705
sounds cool, i think your main design challenge with that might be limiting yourself to slower enemies. Enemies had to be slow to account for the difficult controls

>>545968443
It's not even close to "Steamie"

>>545968705
As someone working on a OTS retro horror game, I regret not making it fixed camera. There is just so much more that goes into an OTS game.

>>545968906
ACCCHHHTUUALLLYYYY enemies movement speed wise can be as fast as they want, but their anticipation before locking onto you and attacking you can be impossibly long and have a very tiny hitbox. They can also get knocked down on their asses or even explode after just 1 attack or 3 attacks. You can also cancel their attacks by hitting them with something really hard.

Every pixel game converges at one point and looks the same as each other. Hopefully your game isn't one of these.

>>545969027
Oh yeah. I believe it and been there a couple times. Outside of scope even, I think part of the appeal of fixed cam is for the fans of 1990s horror who would have a 'new' retro fixed cam experience to play.

https://www.patreon.com/summertimesaga
https://www.patreon.com/dotartNSFW

I refuse to make good video games because of this.
I might as well make "smash the fly" "50/50 bottle" "easier version of Tetris & Bejeweled" than think of magnum opus which nobody will appreciate.

Why won't you faggots appreciate RTS games?

>>545969319
I AM GOING TO MAKE VIDEO GAMES FOR YOUR CAT TO SLAP YOUR TABLET WHEN SHE SEES A FLY, A RED DOT, A BUTTERFLY AND GIVE HER A JUMPSCARE WITH A SCREAMING RAT WHICH RESULTS IN HER PIERCING YOUR TABLET SCREEN WITH HER CLAWS. AND YOU CAN'T SUE ME CAUSE I PUT A CLAUSE IN THERE, IN FACT I CAN SUE YOU FOR ANIMAL ABUSE FOR TORTURING THE POOR ANIMAL TO DIGITAL GAMES.
MWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA

WHY WON'T YOU PLAY MY GAME ZOOMER? PLAY MY FUCKING GAME.

>>545968443
Sounds decent, but the other one was a bit better posted in last thread

>>545968748
AI can absolutely do classical orchestral and is very good at pop shit, but it depends on which AI you're using. I think most just use Suno like I do, I don't know which one he used.

https://vocaroo.com/1duUNRc3XIgC

>>545969465
wtf

>>545959534
IS BOKU suppose to be huge and smug here because his game is massive in content compared to everyone else?

>>545967806
but upgrading the engine may make it more enviable for contracted programmers to fix most of bokube's jank. Those programmers probably prefer to work in unitycurrent than unity2017

>>545969319
>https://www.patreon.com/summertimesaga
>https://www.patreon.com/dotartNSFW

>I refuse to make good video games because of this.
>I might as well make "smash the fly" "50/50 bottle" "easier version of Tetris & Bejeweled" than think of magnum opus which nobody will appreciate.

>Why won't you faggots appreciate RTS games?

>>545962265
>open source it
he should absolutely not do that, at most a paid asset

>>545969850
>contracted programmers
Lmao bro's only point of help is cumball forcing his character into the game

sigh.........nobody will play my demo
i really guess you either submit hour 0 or you might as well not of submitted at all
entry period should just be 24 hours

>>545970040
are you bokudev?

Is it really that frowned upon to make my game a mod+custom map for an existing game with its own game editor?

>>545970183
Stop caring what other people think, loser.

>>545970183
Depends on if you hold the rights to ship that game along with it, that's why it's called a mod and not a game.

>>545970123
I'll play it right now if you link me it

>>545970127
Why would I be bokudev?

>>545964941
>that many followers
>that little engagement
Yeah I think people are just glossing over advertising attempt from indie devs more and more
>wishlist...
>support...
>buy my game...
It's basically like someone trying to sell you some food while while walking down the street except there 10 food vendors on every corner. It's one thing when it just a few dev's but now so many are doing it that I believe the majority of results are resulting in either no wishlist or an actual wishlist but with no intent of actually buying the game. How much further does this need to go so I don't even have to waste my time advertising beyond a trailer and such videos?

nobody plaid my demo

I think its hilarious to see bokusimp constantly bitch about boku needing to hire programmers to fix jank like bitch don't you see him fixing the jank himself?? He is literally updating his demo based on whatever peoples reviews are telling him. Just let him do it at his own pace.


https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/441850

>>545965118
The core idea of the gameplay in Bokube is fine, and most of how it worked seemed to work well without issue. I think the only jank/bugginess I ran into was it seemed like stuff was hitting me that shouldn't have sometimes when I was jumping in the air.

Besides that, for me, at least, there's just a lot going on on screen and it's kind of hard to read all at once. Could be a me thing, though.

I'll post again when I put up VOD's of what I played on my Twitch.

>>545970918
And yet the market is flourishing because for every 10 food vendors on every corner, thousands of hungry customers walk past that corner every single day. Your problem is that you're not making anything that anyone wants to eat.

Give me your video game ideas. Because you know damn well you'll never finish them as an indie dev. >>545968316 Relax brah I'm not Microsoft ... you don't have to kneel and beg for me to steal your ideas.

I keep gibing myself un-earned hiatus's

>>545971216
A paddle on the left side of the screen, a paddle on the right side of the screen, and a ball that bounces in between.

>>545970183
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_derived_from_mods

>>545971294
this but little girls

>>545971216
I think VTMB2 showed there is a massive desire for a VTMB spiritual successor

come on man... just STREAM MY GAME popular streamer... just STREAM IT

>>545971196
I am. It's not my fault the hungry consumers are too poor to eat at my stall

>>545970724
pity help bait

>>545971402
You couldn't even pay customers to eat the shit you're serving.

>>545971016
i'm not bokusimp, bokudev, and you need to fix your jank somehow. Cool if you can fix it yourself, but you ain't no programmo according to your own words

>>545971598
crab

>>545971420
Why do you think that?

boku's game is so fucking old that HIS ORIGINAL TRAILER MENTIONED STEAM GREENLIGHT
STEAM
FUCKING
GREENLIGHT

AND THIS SHIT STILL IS NOT OUT
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO

>>545971479
how do you know it's shit? it hasn't come out yet. *straining*

>>545971016
boku is retarded, he had to ask an AI to make the dash show a preview of where you'd end up

>>545971824
marmoreal-core

>>545971824
Why is it a problem? he worked a fulltime job(as a cook) and made his game on the side. 7 hours of content. that's more than most of us can boast unless we made rogueslop.

marmoreal actually came out tho
over a year, in fact!

>>545971835
>t. golden goose

>>545971976
It wouldn't be a problem if he didn't already take money from people. People paid him seven years ago for the game. That sucks.

>>545972001
>marmoreal is early access(not finished) but flopped
>bokube is still only a demo with a half broken UI
who is finishing first, marmo or the 'kube

>>545971109
>I think the only jank/bugginess I ran into was it seemed like stuff was hitting me that shouldn't have sometimes when I was jumping in the air.
you ran into enemies randomly killing themselves, camera jank when double jumping, fullscreen and options jank, controller jank that caused the controller cursor to continuously go right even after you unplugged the controller, enemies randomly mass-shooting bullets at you, etc.

maybe the game was so fun that you managed to forget most of that jank, though. Hmmm

>Besides that, for me, at least, there's just a lot going on on screen and it's kind of hard to read all at once. Could be a me thing, though.
it might be the streamer pressure. A streamer can't spend as much time studying the level since people might get bored. Also, the demo levels being tough due to lack of slow ramp up and the levels not being as easy as world 1 levels in the full game, made it harder. And bokudev taught you mechanics during it all

>>545972067
thats amazing they are still getting a game with a dev working as much as he can to continue polishing it to a higher standard without asking for more of their money for almost a decade

delusional
it's obvious as fuck that you're melting because once again its almost the end of the year and once again, you're not launching

its ludover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJO4CFEYv_4

will blacks ever make video games?

>>545971661
>according to your own words

Where might a nigga go to clap some Godot game developer (female) cheeks?

>>545971715
bokudev's hired programmers before, no reason he couldn't hire programmers again

>>545972219
This is shit >:(
>AI: Oh like you can do better?
Yes I can. Watch this
>%J#O%J#OI^JWO^JIO^JOIJ^#OI Quadruped xenomorph in 16-bit style

I dare you to make that you filthy AI.

Oh and
>Sexy Tainmaman MILF with young face in leotard and bikini and 38G tits.
Bet your censor overlords won't allow you to do that, bitch.

>>545972108
Oh true. One enemy did kill themself randomly. There was no camera jank when double jumping, but the way double jumping works teleports your characters into a position depending on where you are in the jump and that felt pretty bad. The game did go between fullscreen and non in the beginning, but there weren't any real issues in the options menu. The controller stuff he needs to get sorted out, though. I don't know if the mass-shooting from the enemy was a glitch or not.

I'm really tired right now and streaming for people is not something I'm used to so that's part of it. I thought the game was alright; I could see how others would see it as fun, but it needs polish still.

>>545972067
ok, fair point. kickstarter seems to break some devs minds and they don't deliver because of the pressure. my first backed game never came out, but the dev went on and released 2 more games nobody asked for

>>545972251
Africans are dumber than middle easterns. AFricans NEVER ever had a civilization unlike arabia and india.
Explanation? Cancer cells. Irradiation causes cancer and Africa is hotter more desolate than India.

>>545972373
h-hi...

>>545968952
>>545969481
I didn't think it was better either but just wait I will proompt another masterpiece

>>545972567
>>545972251
>Go into vidya gamedev general
>Have to hear about blacks and troons non stop because of /pol/ nodevs
We need an AI capable to filtering shit like this that doesn't cost more than 5 bucks per month. I should not have to be subjected to brain damage on the daily because I want to talk about gamedev.

>>545971848
and that dash preview was jank when he showed it off long ago, though it seemed to work somewhat well this time around

>>545972251
Probably. There's a self proclaimed black dev in here. This >>545972373 might be him idk.
>>545972567
Nigga what about the kangz of egypt

>>545972554
*nigga ran off with 70k kek. could be worse...

>>545972373
You are not him lil bro
>>545972603
Vagina girl?

>>545972067
i don't see the issue, at all, bokudev undeniably spent a huge amount of time on bokube. It isn't as if he spent a second on the game and then ran with the money. He should still release sometime, even if it ends up just being a jank version

there is a non-zero chance that one of boku's kickstarter supporters literally died before the game came out
there's actually a very good chance, honestly

>>545972603
I look like pic rel, are you into me?

>>545972376
Where has boku said he hired programmers?

>>545959670
make the same framework/engine/mechanics and make two flavors of the same game and sell it twice

>>545973027
No money for that shit the kickstarter cash ran dry a long time ago prob

>>545972376
The obvious problem with hiring programmers is programmers all think super highly of themselves and overcharge massively. Very little work gets done per rate.

>>545972473
that's fair, also sleep well and thanks for the stream

minor detail:
>but there weren't any real issues in the options menu.
the options showed borderless window, but you said it was fullscreen

>>545972603
>t. a Filipino in his 30's

>>545968484
Cowgirl bochher is cute

>>545973160
yeah, he had to use all the money from the kickstarter for his lawyer to get away with raping his coworker.

Pretty happy with this UI for editing the punchcard. Has a cut/copy/paste thing. The controls are kind of weird because I intend for a lot more cut+pastes than copying
>when clipboard is clear:
>left click to toggle punches on/off
>right click drag to select area and cut it (delete and copy)
>ctrl + right click drag to select area and copy it (no delete and copy)
>when clipboard has something
>left click to paste and clear clipboard
>right click to paste without clearing clipboard

tomorrow I need to work on the punchcard reader. Right now the update order is kind of messed up when rapidly reading multiple cards. You can see on this webm on the "1, 2, 3" cards, it skips the 2 for some reason.

>>545973387
Don't accuse bokudev of things like that. He already showed that it was a lie.

>>545972373
>Godot
>Female
lol

>>545973027
he did in the past, some systems were programmed by others, something with liq's discord server perhaps

Is GTA6 really gonna release on November 19th? That sounds so annoying for Ctesiphon.

>>545973479
It's weird that you added this much functionality without testing out if a reader is gonna work well. But it's cool anyway.

>>545973370
Thank you pardner! Yee-haw!

>>545973734
I know I can fix the reader
I know the punchcard editor needs cut paste
The only question is if the game as a whole is improved by adding the punchcard/reader mechanics.

Tik Tok Gaben

>>545973189
supply and demand, and everyone wants money, to pay for food and preferably more. Many programmers pull all kinds of tricks to overcharge, many employers pull all kinds of tricks to undercharge. You might be right that it is too costly for bokudev, and thus it's him and ai. Unless he decides to profit-share, but i don't think neither he nor any potential contractor could come to terms on that

only real option might be to contract a programmer to fix very, very specific issues and no more. That might be within his budget

it's ironic, bokube itself is something of a fixer-upper, and bokudev is working on fixing up a house irl

>>545973734
nvm, the reader works fine
it only fucks up if you have two different readers manipulating the same line of togglers
i guess tomorrow i'll deal with that. Probably by disabling reader/toggler interactions if the toggler line is connected to multiple readers

These threads are going to be completely unusable once bokube releases to maybe 10 reviews, right?

>>545973519
hes just mad hes a failed art dev lmao

>>545971196
>flourishing
>still the same range of successes every year
Yeah I don't think so.

>>545974312
>Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/
10 reviews is about what you can expect for a platformer. If they are 10 paying customers, I'd call that a success

>>545974312
Wait until Mojito the Chad 2 drops

>>545974483
wait there's ANOTHER game that started as a shitty sokoban/platformer fusion, that eventually dropped the shitty sokoban mechanics?

>>545974459
>10 reviews is about what you can expect for a platformer. If they are 10 paying customers, I'd call that a success
GRIM

The Nobody is a cat.

>>545973479
your game has so much it feels like it'd be a nightmare to avoid breaking stuff.

>>545974483
Soul v soulless

>>545973387
someone should figure out the court case and publish it. If bokudev's side is true, they didn't even have sex

>>545974614
UI code is all in its own shitty bucket, its by far the worse quality code in the whole thing
but it doesn't touch any of the complicated block mechanics
making the reader work consistently was just giving it the right spot on the update priority que. It needed 2 slots, one for the togglers, and one to push the punchcard to the next punchcard

here's a tricky bug I did fix:
>player is on a separate thread from blocks (player left screen, blocks right screen)
>there's a block in the game called the "pilot seat" so you can build vehicles and stuff
>player position is only synced once every block update (around 4 times a second)
>there was a thread message called "enter_chair"
>if the 2 thread player positions were off:
>(you were standing on the border of 2 blocks, where in player thread you were standing in front of chair, in block thread player is standing in front of non-chair)
>chair gets all fucked up
fix was adding chair position to the "enter_chair" thread message, instead of assuming the block behind player position was a chair

>>545975083
bokudev is a LIER

He doesn't have a GF
he will never release his "game"
and he RAPED that girl in court. I will make sure the world finds out.

>>545974459
pogo3d got more than a 100 reviews, and pogo3d is a platformer. Are those 10 review platformers 2d or 3d? Bokube is 3d

>>545975312
pogo was steamer bait and they took the bait.

>>545975145
i also think the chair had to be moving for this bug to trigger, since moving blocks are 1 block-distance out of sync between threads

i made this pic a while ago to explain the multithreads. Upside: much smoother framerate. Downside: player-block interactions generally have 1-block-tick of latency since the action needs to go back and forth

Finished setting up a new UI system that displays the tutorial text when you get to a certain area of the tutorial and doesn't fade the text away at all after 10 seconds like before.


I changed all the explanation to be FULLY DETAILED about all the different moves and hidden moves you can do and explained EVERYTHING on how the game works.

>>545975171
lol

>>545956479
Yeah, I did play a bunch of games after the main list was done. VOD is on the twitch page, I'll post written feedback as well.

>>545975572
Interesting new approach to progress posts boku. Leaving us on a cliffhanger.

>>545975572
holy wall of text lmao
do you expect anyone to read all that shit

>>545975171
You don't know what you're talking about, it wasn't even a girl.

>>545976089
oh thats right it was a little boy!

>>545975572
could probably trim or spread out some of the text in another tutorial text area, but a good change, i reckon

>>545975572
get rid of the black background behind the text just gave the text a black outline.

>>545976089
post court documents, anonymous internet basket weaver?

>>545976264
that's like +2 years of dev time tho

>>545975369
bokube has more content than pogo3d, interesting

Where can I hire shill like this?
>>>/v/725429346

>>545969185
Post your game

lmfao

>>545976791
he also copy pasted these tutorials into twitch chat to make sure the streamer read it

>>545976791
my head hurts

>>545975572
I have a question I don't think you've ever been asked or answered.
Is your goal to keep working on this game until agdg says it's perfect?
Or to phrase it another way, do you believe there is a point where you will no longer feel the need to enter demoday and make 80 updates to the game?

When will you actually feel okay releasing this game?

>>545976871
his business, honestly

>>545976871
marmoreal was around longer, right?

>>545975572
Do you not get burned out from making the same game for a whole decade wishing to make something new?

>>545975572
>>545976791
Show don't tell.

its just too entertaining honestly

>>545977236
I actually think he's deving for these demodays. I have been watching enough years to know he does this every demoday. Every demoday to him is like a parade being thrown just for him and he turns the thread into a circus about him. This is what he cares about.

>>545976320
it's a joke

>>545976218
Yeah I trimmed it down. >>545976264
done.

>>545977264
nobody would understand that lmao i don't even understand it.

>>545977236
>burnt out on one game
If you follow him at all, you would know he already has a animal-crossing-multiplayer-survivallike he's working on for his next game. Personally I'd just finish the one game first but whatever

>>545977527
I have not touched that prototype in a long time that was only worked on for about a week compared to bokubes off and on outside of wageslaving for years. Im excited to release bokube soon and get back to that though.

soon to me is like 1-4 months tops but i'm not gonna explain because theres a lot of retards in here that would never underst

>>545977639
>soon to me is like 1-4 months tops but i'm not gonna explain because theres a lot of retards in here that would never underst
to be fair, you also said the release was soon last DD you joined

>>545977639
>>545977639
>1-4 months
Is that in bokube years?

>>545977379
holy jealous seething for attention given to bokube is obvious bro thats ugly just stop

>>545977759
WHY is BOKUBE even in the DD art?? He shouldn't even be involved here >>545959534

and in pic related NOBODY likes him.

>>545977527
>Personally I'd just finish the one game first but whatever
flyknight is a counter-example

>>545977639
>I have not touched that prototype in a long time that was only worked on for about a week
it was like half a year and you stopped working on it because your girlfriend, who you were showing everything about it, dumped you

>>545977759
Nice cope but there's no seething, this guy has been stuck on one game for 10 years. What is there to seethe about? He is clearly addicted to demodays because he has done 30 of them.

>>545976871
>>545977089
>>545977231
>>545977236
>>545977736
https://vocaroo.com/16zHBOEFSjy8

>>545977872
He had a main game other than fly knight? Or do you mean when he massively dropped the scope to release it sooner?

>>545977914
lmao boku put your name back on

>>545977914
>dingo suck on deez nutz
what did he do to boku to deserve this

>>545977870
it's a cute mascot
>>545977684
on one hand, too much jank. On the other hand, there are now cinematics, more tutorial, level selection, options, main menu, pause menu, etc.

>>545977870
He is the majority of content in the past few threads definitely the most entertaining aspects.

>>545977987
You really think boku can make this? He still hasn't even released his game kek

>>545977882
desu his new gf is 21 and his old gf was 30 i think he upgraded

>>545978035
Boku, please. You "cinematics" are just video recordings of your own gameplay. Everything else, like "options", "main menu", "pause menu" and "etc" is EXPECTED of a VIDEO GAME

>>545977936
wabbaboy has a main game, it's a whole epic
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wabba/sorceress/posts/4473204
sorceress was started before flyknight, and is still not finished or released. And flyknight was a huge success

>>545978209
GOOD FOR HIM WHERE IS THE RELEASE

>>545978035
Yeah I'd agree the new stuff is good, at the time I was confused since it looked like the UX was lacking. At that point you didn't even have the 3D world/level select, which helps make it feel more than a level list. That said, I feel like you have weird ideas of what's good at times, but I've come to accept it at this point.

>>545978209
where does one learn this bokudev gossip?

>>545978283
oh he was the dev for that too, no idea.
I always thought sorceress was over hyped though, it felt like fantasy portal for babies, it was all trivial puzzles and combat

Rap is such a cheat lol

>>545978369
his public facebook page clearly

>>545978232
>You "cinematics" are just video recordings of your own gameplay.
he also has intro-animations for bosses

>Everything else, like "options", "main menu", "pause menu" and "etc" is EXPECTED of a VIDEO GAME
exactly my point, much of that wasn't there before, now it is, thus actually closer to release (ignoring the jank)

I was asleep. What did I miss.

>>545978414
-What the fuck she is a fat 21 year old blond?? DO you think she is grossed out by her aging boyfriends 10 year old failed project? LOOK MOM, DAD MY BOYFRIENDS MAKING A GAME. Hhahahahaha

>>545978585
>boku is plapjak irl

I miss dingo/nolgorb/hard meat where's he go

>>545978303
you got me confused with bokudev, sorry

>>545978652
>>545978585
>boku is a ARCHITECT

>>545978834
put your name back on lmao

>>545978585
u just know shes gonna get even fatter too lmao

>>545978585
>>545978414
>this is a 29 year old man making "games"

>>545979046
In a just world this boy would be my concubine

>>545979046
hapa, white, Spanish, African, Asian all in one mutts were a mistake reminder. No wonder he can't finish a game his fucking DNA is a over cooked fucked up stew.

He didn't like my game guys ... Is over...

>>545979124
At least he is not Indian could be worse.

>>545978585
>>545979046
what does a white blond even see in a twink mystery mutt I'm so lonely wtf do I have to do to get a gf

why are you bullying this boku guy?

>>545979312
>>545978918

>last video was 9 days ago

Marnix sisters...

>>545975572
>too much text
>mfw

Alright nigs; new version 007 BOKUBE demo out now;

https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/441850

>>545979335
I'm not him, I just don't get it.

>>545979421
cool demo, the 007 means alpha right? once you reach 100 it will be done?

>>545979421
>nigs

>>545978383
i don't know much about it, the kickstarter page mentions dark messiah. The main take-away i have from all that is that the side-project became a major success

imagine the smell

>>545978585
good for him, all that matters is having someone to love

>>545975145
>UI code is all in its own shitty bucket, its by far the worse quality code in the whole thing
>but it doesn't touch any of the complicated block mechanics
The save/load system + proc gen is the worst one with my game. It's very huge and a bit interconnected.

>that green text
You're a smarter coder than me. Closest to threading I've done if it even counts are coroutines. How'd you learn all this and iirc isn't this in your own engine?

>>545978585
that is not blonde, that is light brown hair

>>545979352
>does your idea hold up as a real game?
>your game idea probably sucks
>just make good game
A lot of these make me nervous gulp. But I also feel like I get all I need just from reading the clickbait titles, it provokes me to think.

>>545979046
>>545978585
I think the 30 year old man is somehow more fuckable then the modern young American 21 year old woman wtf is going on in your country

>>545980015
You're just a gay fag. Kys nigger retard

>>545979124
could have been worse, at least he doesnt look like a mutant like fygoon

I'm a cuter dev than Boku x<

>>545980683
I'm fatter than his gf, want to date?

>>545980683
settle down rotate

>>545978585
Pretty sure that's the one that dumped him. In any case, good, absolutely terrible idea to date and marry this, one look and you can tell she's gonna be quite the beast when she's older.

>>545979352
I heard he got married and since Marnix is the lead video maker, no surprise there hasn't been one. Anyways aren't they also crunching to get like 3 games out in the next 6 months? Which reminds me, Maid Cafe Anon, estimated time for release? Even just early access if you're considering it? I recall seeing BiteMe push release of theirs to like early 2026.

>>545980002
I think they'll be successful eventually. They somehow develop faster than most dev's here achieve. Not sure how they're so fast at it. Marnix somehow goes at it for hours like it's nothing.

>>545980084
>t. name remover bokufag

>>545981098
>They somehow develop faster than most dev's here achieve.
>Not sure how they're so fast at it.

The one thing I'll give them is that they know how to keep their scope in check. I've felt like basically every one of their games could've been improved ten fold but it would've required a lot more time/effort than they would've made back financially.
They're the masters of the MVP.

>>545981525
right who is he fooling lel

Why can't I have aggy sister's to form a Sokpop/BiteMe style team? I claim title of Kita-chan!

>>545981562
>required a lot more time/effort than they would've made back financially.
Yeah definitely. I think it's the fact they don't have an artist that holds them back the most.
>They're the masters of the MVP.
What does that mean?

>>545981689
bcause u wud rape her

>>545981759
>What does that mean?
MVP = Minimal viable product.
Meaning they know how to make the smallest game possible that'll sell enough to make it worth their time.

Hidden gems don't exist, not in the sense that good games never fail, but in the sense that gamers are too cattle-minded to try games with less than 100 or even 10 reviews. Go ahead and ask any of them. Would they play a game with fewer than 10 reviews? 99.9% would say no, even if the game looks good. In fact, I would say being a flop is the standard condition for a good game, since good games don't have the money or manpower to focus on promotion and advertising. This is only further exacerbated by the fact that all the algorithms are rigged against new creators and in favour of already established ones. This means that the only way to win is to somehow be louder than the establishment. Either through money (minimum 50k$, mind you), or luck.

There isn't a single game that was at less than 10 reviews but later blew up to be 1000+ reviews. I'd like to believe there is, but I don't think so.

>>545982112
>There isn't a single game that was at less than 10 reviews but later blew up to be 1000+ reviews.
Amogus

>>545981689
boscis dont make games

>>545979292
you must be blind and/or retarded. as an attractive person who gets attention, flirtation, down to fucks, taken women wanting to cheat with me, etc. everywhere i go, boku has great looks and easily pulls a high amount of women with his softer/cuter base structure. so while your mind is stuck in 4chan mode where you're stuck analyzing what he's made of, women only give a fuck about looks, and boku has them

>>545959670
what kind of sci fi and fantasy to begin with?

>>545971342
but you didnt submit nortubel

>>545982112
i'm a part of a discord community where we all buy each others games and review them positively

>>545982112
I will buy a game with <10 reviews right now if it's novel.

>>545978209
wtf!

>>545982192
Amogus had more than 100 reviews before it blew up AFAIK

>>545982510
I mean botting reviews isn't expensive. But you need 100+ reviews for steamies to even look at your game to have hopes of blowing up, and botling that much is too risky.

>>545982673
these aren't botted reviews though
the dickord is prob the best game dev community im a part of (its not even a game dev dickord, its just got a channel for dev)

Considering everything, I think Bokube is going to be this generals last "big name" flop, I don't think any of the other games being made are big enough names nor will they be. Sad it will be the last piece of legacy content we see.

>>545982736
There is no functional difference between your discord and paying some russian to bot your game's reviews. In fact the latter might be better since they have a barrage of accounts to use that cannot be easily traced.

>>545982673
Amogus was Sodapoppin's last gift to the world

>>545983051
Niggeebitch you better prove it bitch

>>545982792
Just wait, I am working on a game that will be big and will stay in the minds of aggly daggly forever, it will have infinite flop potential.

>>545982792
I could step up to the plate and become known but I am allergic to crabs. I'd cancel my game and cry when they say a true thing.

>>545982792
what about his second online multiplayer game? he should take it to /v/ honestly

>>545983085
thanks for your service.

>>545981098
>I think they'll be successful eventually. They somehow develop faster than most dev's here achieve. Not sure how they're so fast at it. Marnix somehow goes at it for hours like it's nothing.
they don't have to specialize in everything, which likely helps. And they seem social

>>545974330
I look like this

I'm a steamieeee! I make slop!
I don't care if all my games will flop!
Gabencut has took his pay...
My profit's gone, that's the steamie way!

>>545982602
What constitutes a game being "novel"?

>>545983824
The quality of being new, original, or unusual.

>>545983824
I know it when I see it. recently, in UFO50, there was a train heist game that was a kind of turnbased immsim

>>545983981
>>545984027
So you mean nothing and don't know what you're talking about.

>>545984109
That mindset gets you nowhere, anon.

>>545984109
novelty is different for different people.

>>545961050
there's nothing wrong with the level 1 tutorial of a game being easy. that's the whole point, to introduce people to the game
you are not making le super hardcore platformer for tryhards

>>545984179
Look I'm a professional, I have a game, a playerbase and even a youtube channel ... what do you have?

>>545982303
I would if I wasn't so committed to my current project

>>545984792
I have all those things and a nine inch dick.

>>545984792
ok mr pro, if something novel to you isn't something new, original or unusual (to you), what is novel?

>>545984792
Jesus Branno, calm down

how do i just make a game

>>545983565
I'm a STEAMIIEEEEEEEE

>>545959534
Happy demo day

Branno, answer my question in a youtube video

what is demo day?

>>545983601
Stop posting this picture of me!!

>>545985445
Just make game

>>545985775
i tried and that didnt work

>>545985694
ok chud

>>545985837
Try again?

>>545986048
i tried that a hundred times and it didnt work either

how do i fix this bug?

>>545986610
>how do i fix this bug

https://fixvx.com/PSYCH0FINGER/status/1987574634607231266
Holy kino.

>>545987043
I wish I had this...

>>545987043
now THIS is what i sub to biteme for

>>545979352
Can someone explain why anyone would watch this guy's channel for advice? How can you give people "how to"s without being able to make them work yourself?

>>545986693
I was in until I saw the pick one of 3 interrupting the flow

>>545960929
Have you considered using triplanar texture mapping so that all textures are on the same axis and generate something texture repetitive like Minecraft?

WHY you gotta be such a bastard bitch, huh?

>>545987043
>#patreon-insider

please play and review my arma 3 mod
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3569474876


analytics too, number goes up, ect

>>545964910
>>545968082
fucking lol, the delusion

Hi, I’m an amateur composer, and a game I volunteered in is gonna be released on Steam for free next month. I was wondering if any projects needed music so I could add that to my experience, free of charge.

>>545987752
you should really provide an example when posting things like this

>>545987752
prompt?

>>545979530
He can say it

Hello from Nepal. I'm making a 2d platformer.

>>545988317
free tibet

>>545988317
prompt?

>>545959116 (OP)
explain this nortubel
https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/216169316/#216169316

I USED AI VOICE ACTING IN MY GAME, BUT I CAN'T UPLOAD IT TO DEMODAY

>>545977870
Where's the full image?

>>545961890
How do you calculate line of sight?

>>545988948

>Previous thread
>>545900295

pixel art or 3d imo

>>545989221
3d with pixel art textures

>>545989334
seems like too much work

>>545989414
2d sprites, yeah it's too much.

>>545988024
>>545988063
I can post the game’s trailer (with my music in it) but it’s basically doxxing myself, would a Mega link with some of my music be a good example?

>>545989856
vocaroo.com

>>545975572
>wall of text tutorial

game mechanic for this feel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nyHPIcbn88

>>545975572
this should be 2 separate tutorial phases
>using dash
>sprint rolling

crafty buildy. 7 years in dev. 100% positive. 35k wishlists. 13 review. 300 sales. this guys bust was cuffed harder than I ever thought possible.

>>545990062
newfriend

>>545975572
NICE TEXT LMAOOOOOO

what do you know about creating a multiplayer game in Unity DOTS?

>>545990396
*
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2963240/Generation_Exile/

>>545990454
nothing. I have never touched MPdev.

>>545990396
Like I said in the previous thread, if you plan to make solo dev your career aka you plan to make it financially, you need to be able to produce a game in 1-2 years max, with a demo and ads being available halfway through. That's the reason most games coming out are friendslop/vampsurvslop/rogueslop, trying to go against the grain will reduce your odds of sucess to a percent of whatever you would if you followed it.

>>545990454
Nothing...

>>545990396
EA is dead

$10,000
2 weeks
gmi

>>545990617
pretty good

>>545990617
That's like half my yearly salary when I worked in webdev.

>>545990604
not even solo, this was a team of ex-AAA. was this discussed already? I missed it if so.
>I was the lead designer of the Mark of the Ninja and I was one of the people who co-founded Campo Santo where we made Firewatch.
>Our team has key creatives behind Gone Home, Mini Motorways and significant contributors to games like Baldur's Gate 3 and Far Cry 5/6.

oh you motherfuckers, listen: steam revenue calculator says trainwiz made 43 fucking grand net from 366 reviews at $19.99. HE is fucking saying that he has fucking netted 300 fucking grand. now use your retarded brain and wonder for yourself for a moment, how in the FUCK, could he possibly net 300 fucking grand off of a review estimation of 43 fucking grand? riddle me that one, retards. we're talking 7 fucking times difference

>>545990617
? post game

>>545990981
the bigger the lie

>Surface Breaker
Getting enemy animations in the game.

>>545990632
>>545990818
>>545991038
that's now how much money i made? that's how much money your game needs to make in order to activate the promotion algorithm
aim for this goal
do whatever it takes

everybody hates me and my games

>>545991214
that's what i figured but went with what the other two retards assumed for who knows why

>>545989891
Tracks from the game in question
https://voca.ro/16AAtRF5ZjL9
https://voca.ro/1jKA1xJKu2Lb
https://voca.ro/1jhvU0yUYnUV

Tracks from a Pokémon-esque retro JRPG that didn't get finished
https://voca.ro/15SPfvSTY2Te
https://voca.ro/11MXWW2QLQsO
https://voca.ro/14GCnOsg2D2l

Miscellaneous other music projects, just to some shit I can do
https://voca.ro/1iuDXtUD6bEu
https://voca.ro/1nqx1WpSDBOY
https://voca.ro/1jBCFVvmaNJI

I've been making music for maybe 2 or so years. But honestly I think I enjoy it so much that I want to get better at it, especially for games. I don't want money, just things to put on a resumé

so now that the dust has cleared

what did you achieve by submitting to DD65?
who won DD65?

>>545990604
focusing on a niche audience is way more reliable than competing against 15 other games that are exactly like yours, for example compound fracture is absolutely GMI because there are very few games like it

>>545991509
any tips on mixing and mastering? I do none of that stuff, I just simply make tracks in FL Studio and I lower the volume of instruments (thats mixing I guess) but I do none of the compression or anything like that

could you in simple terms show me the way?

>>545991682
Lmao you think I know that shit? I do more or less what you do. I guess try and use panning, and I'd try to learn what EQ does and all that shit.

>>545991793
yet my shit sounds like shit compared to yours :(

>>545991853
Soundgoodizer goes a long way. It also depends on what instruments you have, some things I use, for example, are straight-up samples. I'm sure my shit sounds like shit compared to someone else, anon, we're all in the same crab bucket. Have you worked on anyone else's projects in here? Any luck?

>>545982112
Whether you spend money on marketing or not, you need a demo and a playerbase that cares your game exists before you launch. Paying for advertising won't guarantee that. Leveraging demos and judging market viability with things like nextfest are the new standard and your demo and therefore your game has to be good to achieve this. If you can't get people playing a demo you are better off dropping a game and moving onto something else.

>>545991973
some people asked me for tracks but it never went anywhere

>>545991509
Can you use this one for some inspiration?
https://vocaroo.com/14RTx9RNQj5g

>>545991679
this but the opposite

>>545990396
Wishlists are over. You need a bustling community that is basically in contact with you and asking 24/7 "WHEN IS YOUR GAME RELEASING". Then you can safely launch a game.

>>545990604
indie dev is all about speed

>>545982112
you can't just release a game with no established following and expect it to gain players by itself, promoting is part of the work you have to put in when making a game

i should be making small systems and small things, not focus on a whole game...
if i imagine a whole game... its pointless, i cant make a whole game.
but i can make a small thing that are in games

>>545991541
I didn't submit but this was a real agdg lore moment and I'm glad I was here for it.

>>545991679
>focusing on a niche audience is way more reliable than competing against 15 other games that are exactly like yours
Unfortunately this is not true. If you are 1 of 50 survival craft games with a certain tag you are going to be played more than a niche game. However what you can do is combine a niche theme or interest with a hot genre and then set yourself apart from the 50 others.

>>545992553
>i should be making small systems and small things, not focus on a whole game...
>if i imagine a whole game... its pointless, i cant make a whole game.
>but i can make a small thing that are in games

>he still thinks the qualities of his game are what determines its success
L O L

learn marketing

>>545992239
>a bustling community
>>545992532
>established following
Must learn the way of the discord dev.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXLCQ-99Gn8

>>545991996
OR fundamentally rethink and redesign the game. Because there may still be some magic there just buried under "meh".

>>545992747
How will marketing help me make a better game?

>>545993075
better feedback

Do you guys whine like this in every thread, or do people actually post progress or look for people to help?

>got a game idea
>loaned 4 history books for background research
Wish me luck.

>>545993303
gmi

>>545993281
mostly whining these days

>>545990396
>>545990497
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2963240/Generation_Exile/
Does this really qualify as "crafty buildy"?

>>545992747
mouth to mouth advertising is best why bother, create a good product

>>545993281
It kinda became 80% whining in the last 3 years or so.

>>545993354
who will discover it?

>>545992595
>>545992236
I just don't see it this way, every game that appeals to me has over a 1000 reviews and basically no competition, there's no way most of the 50 games following a trend are making money even if the audience is magnitudes larger

>>545993386
>>545993336
I mean, are you guys making games?

>>545993552
its in here
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/entries

>>545993552
yes

>>545993454
>b-but im a gamer
retard alert

>>545993454
Here's two identical games with the same name. You probably never heard of them even though they have 40,000 reviews combined.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1943950/Escape_the_Backrooms/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2141730/Backrooms_Escape_Together/

does anybody here ever scroll through steam new releases and look for games they'd consider playing

>>545993760
no I make games

>>545993760
Usually only when I'm actually looking for a new game to play, which might only be a few times each year. EPIC gave away like 7 AAA titles a couple years back and one summer and things like that drastically reduce my time spent instore.

>>545993281
.

>>545993552
We do, but when a conversation is going downhill, the default ad hominem is "where is your game/what is your game", and people no longer post about their games that often. Also when they do post the responses are "kill yourself" or "this fucking sucks", so developers rather focus on making games, while the thread usually have the complainers left.

>>545991509
>https://vocaroo.com/16AAtRF5ZjL9
i like this one. what is that laser drum at 3:00?

>>545993701
https://games-stats.com/steam/?title=backrooms
there are 252 games with "backrooms" in the title 8 of them made over 100k, 3 of them made over a million (according to this sites estimate anyways) these odds are not very good right?

>>545959534
kill yourself

made some good progress today: changed the character to be a twin stick shooter ala binding of isaac

>>545993346
according to the devs. but I agree it seems a slight stretch.

>>545994208
Yeah I guess you're right, nevermind. Enjoy trying to get players for your niche game.

i can't get the leg to behave reee

>>545992857
yuri bait done right.

just learn storytelling

>>545994208
8/252 is still higher than your niche game odds

>>545994350
Jefferey Epsteincraft, or Steincraft for shot.

So I got an inflamed butthole from spending too much time devvin on my chair, any tips?

>>545994586
The chair is more important than the computer

>>545994586
Have you tried a smaller devplug?

>>545994326
I'm not trying to be a faggot proving a point just to win an argument, I genuinely want to find out if I'm wasting my time making my game

>>545994493
I think the problem is reliability, you have much more control if you focus on a specific audience, trend chasing seems to be almost entirely based on luck

Hry you stop making fun of mutts.
Pic related a healthy labradoodle

>>545994198
Oh that? It's a sample I found, simply called LAZERTOM. I had to check the FL Studio project to remember the name.

As an aside, does anyone know if the Remote Aphrodite dev is making his own music? He doesn't seem to have credited anyone and I was wondering if I could maybe offer my work. I thought I'd reach out to him through here before trying Discord

Does Fygoon have any updates on his lizard game?

>>545994929
I tried to make pic related with ai and its still not there yet
https://youtu.be/Y0VfxCnP6_o

>>545994796
I don't think I could relax around that dog

>>545994762
>I genuinely want to find out if I'm wasting my time making my game
Make a demo and show it to people gauge interest. Then try to get people to play it, this is the difference between showing people that you're making a niche game and actually having a game people will play.

People are usually enthusiastic to see a niche interest of theirs in a videogame, but their willingness to actually play it can be totally different, which is why combining a niche interest with a popular genre or subgenre is the best approach I think.

So I've started just writing my entire game in my main script and as I read tutorials apparently I'm meant to be making nodes and sub nodes for everything and, I'm just not going to. Lol I'm just not gonna do that. Lmao

>>545994059
I've never seen you post progress before,, only spamming your mod that nobody here wants to play.

>>545995034
It's getting ghosted this demo day. I think people have finally had enough of the antics. Which is amazing because it seemed to me like he was always going to have a handful of people who didn't know better indulging him.

>>545995347
He just wants somewhere to belong like the rest of us anon

>>545995112
>pic related
>no pic
Did you mean the link? Is that an AI song? Did you try to make the lazertom sound with AI?

>>545992532
>promoting is part of the work you have to put in when making a game
You either make a good game or you make an average game with good promotion.

>>545995427
how old are you

>>545995194
Bitches dont know about the super cop belgian dog breed

>>545995515
>no argument
I accept your concession.

>>545995613
i wasn't arguing, you just seem immature

>>545995403
well it isn't here

>>545995668
damn next you'll be saying I don't belong here for not having a game

>>545995613
>I accept your concession.

>>545995426
Its too much to ask of ai like that verse full bodied so full bodied and the stops in between etc…

we have teenagers posting here

>>545995825
I don't really understand what you're saying anon, but I'd tell you not to use AI. If you need music for a game, I'd be happy to make it for free as long as you're reasonable enough to work with and you have a solid vision for what you want that I can provide for you in a satisfying manner.

Fygoon just hasn't been the same since he cancelled his date. Been very quiet.

>>545981098
WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO KNOW MARNIX

>>545995347
i just posted progress

>>545995896
Worse, 40 year olds too! The bitter, unfunny, generally unaccomplished kind! Gross!!!

>>545995347
what do you want me to do, livestream me talking to AI? lol "progress" consists of me feeding my boilerplate prompt into the AI and then telling it what i want next as a feature, or what needs to be edited/changed

then i paste it in, playtest it and if it works ship it to the workshop

>>545981098
>Marnix somehow goes at it for hours like it's nothing.
Heh yeah that's crazy.

>>545995989
Isn't it funny? His MC syndrome is strong but the moment he gets rejected by a girl his worldview crumbles and his persona gets reality check'd. It had to happen sooner or later.

>>545996208
things will get better for him

It's kinda weird that Steam casually has a monopoly over the entire PC gaming landscape and no one really bothered to do anything about it. I mention this because I was thinking if I wanted to sell a game it would be really difficult to do it on PC without Steam. I don't like Steam for the record. Don't reply to this, I'm just speaking my mind.

>>545996208
There's no way to know if the date was ever real. Anyway the last time I saw him post more than once it was to enter agdg and call people rodents and then get instantly deleted lmao it was funny. But yeah I almost feel bad for him lately.

I have a kid but the poor lil guy has autism. If he were healthy i could have raised him to be an oligarch with all the knowledge i acquired. Oh well.

What is the best source for video game music?
>free music
>paid music
>make your own
I will not learn to make music, it's too long process, too hard.
I could paid for music but I have to listen to music first if I like it, I do not want to hire artist to make music. I want music to be already made.

>>545996561
>rodents
*vermin

>>545996558
how hard is it to make a website that accepts payments and distributes your game, starsector does it

>>545996263
Sure, it's all part of growing up. He needs to learn how to be humble. Right now he's so full of himself because he did the thing! He made a dinosaur move! In 3D! And all of his friends are like "way to go, very cool!" but it's like a down syndrome kid is trying to dance and everyone is like "very cool! You got it!" just to not upset him.
Fygoon is in a special ed class and he thinks all the paper stars he's earning are like olympic medals. People grow out from this phase, like we were pretending to be Son Goku or Vegeta when we were 13 too, but that would be beyond pathethic to act like that kind of a sperg in my 20s.

>>545995427
eceleb worshipping nodev bootlicker turdie tranny moment
fygoon was right

>>545996558
>no one really bothered to do anything about it.
GOG did, but gaymers shat on it. I'm not gonna talk about EGS because it's objectively inferior but GOG is pretty good and with some work could be improved, but gaymers INSIST on staying on Steam. You can't fight cultism like this.

>>545996558
without steam there would be an alternative game provider
people don't mind the monopoly because gamers haven't had any serious issues with steam or valve
i think epic could compete with steam if they started an indie publishing company
give a fuckton of money and promotion to promising indie devs and eventually you'll get the next big game, undertale or stardew valley tier success, and your platform will begin to grow if it remains exclusive to epic

>>545996679
You're right but I just don't know how many people are willing to do that. It might be worth doing just for the sake of it.

>>545996643
Anon I will make it for you, entirely for free. Check some of my music >>545991509 There’s an upcoming Steam release with my music in it. The only thing you’d have to do is get in contact, tell me what you want and maybe go through revisions to get something you’re happy with.

>>545996643
>free music
there is no lack of good free music out there but it's hard for it not to sound soulless and disjointed
>paid music
everyone in your pay grade exclusively makes breakcore and chiptune slop
>make your own
the only option for quality and sovl but also likely to be worse than all of the above if you have no musical training

>>545996761
>because gamers haven't had any serious issues with steam or valve
Valve screwed over gamers multiple times. They PROMISED to make Episode 3 but never did. Lied about the state of Half-life 2 in 2003 before it leaked. Had to be dragged into Aussie court kicking and screaming to allow refunds. Pioneered microtransactions, gambling and paid mods (things gaymera vehemently hate). But all of that is forgotten cause STEAMIE SALES DUDE!!!

>>545996720
this is the result of being sheltered
never being forced to face reality in your youth

>>545996901
those aren't big enough problems to make people hate steam
as long as they have a constant stream of dopamine programs going on sale they'll be happy

>>545996760
Actually I'm pretty stupid to have forgotten GOG when I wrote that post. Indeed GOG is a good alternative.

Yes, I'm still laughing at Cuffbust. I'm a professional hater.

>>545997118
>Yes, I'm still laughing at Cuffbust. I'm a professional hater.

I'm staring at this "Finish Your Game" game jam while this is playing

https://youtu.be/8skhP1U6FNE&t=66

It just feels like the stars are aligning and telling me to publish this game and move on like now, right now. The conjunction as mentioned by zukowski is only amplifying this.

>Please don’t be a martyr for game development by spending years on a single art project.

>The strength of Indie game developers is that we are small, quick, nimble, innovators, who can move faster, take risks that big lumbering companies like EA, Ubisoft, Activision cannot take. The big giants are supposed to take too long on their game. Not small indies like us.

Steam is part of marketing. Dont think of it as paying a fee think of it as teaming up with a publisher.

>>545996985
>those aren't big enough problems to make people hate steam
Half of these problems are the reasons why gaming sucks as a whole though. I'd say they're very big reasons to hate Valve.

>as long as they have a constant stream of dopamine programs going on sale they'll be happy
I wish you weren't, but you're right. Fucking Valve bent the knee to payment processors and began declining and delisting games based on bullshit (and if you think it'll stop at porn you're retarded) but fucking gaymers don't give a shit because MUH REGIONAL PRICING, MUH STEAMIE SALES, MUH STEAM FORUMS AND PROFILES!!!
Fucking cattle.

>>545996561
That's even better. Girl was nice to him and he already thought to himself that she wants to go to a date with him! He told everyone here about it and then it turned out she was just nice, or baiting, and doesn't want to do anything with the sperg. Or he showed her his game and she ran away as fast as she could

>>545996760
>gaymers INSIST on staying on Steam
it's because all of their friends are on steam
a competing platform will only gain traction if they have a huge platform-exclusive culture-defining indie title and comparable social network features
steam has stardew valley, the binding of isaac, counter strike, and custom steam profiles with user communication functionality
those alone are enough to keep 90% of gamers satisfied with the platform

>>545996761
>i think epic could compete with steam if they started an indie publishing company
They have a grant it's pretty big.

>>545997242
>Half of these problems are the reasons why gaming sucks as a whole
only in your opinion, the games you prefer are not the games the average consumer prefers
the average consumer is very happy with the games they see being promoted on steam
your preferences are obscure

Im thinking of making epstein at the popcorn mine a phone first game anyways

>>545994350
lol an anon actually used the idea i suggested for epstein miner? awesome

>>545997678
Maybe we both came up with the idea

>>545997436
>only in your opinion
Aggressive monetisation, gambling mechanics and paid mods are objectively destructive qualities that WILL destroy this medium. Gaymers parrot this because deep down they know it's true, even if their IQ is too low to stop interacting with said systems. And Valve is known to not deliver on their promises and lie out of lazyness, who knows what shit they'll pull next? They can get away with anything, you know. Gaymers will forgive them for all of it.

As for my tastes and opinions, yes I do have preferences that don't align with the masses (like hating friendslop and vampire survivors clones and roguelikes) but I'm not talking about these. I'm talking about the objective factors here.

>>545997802
>Aggressive monetisation, gambling mechanics and paid mods are objectively destructive qualities that WILL destroy this medium.

>>545997791
Have you looked at the games Legacy of Epstein: Bad Omen and Legacy of Epstein: Foul Dreamer?
It's made by the same people that made the hilarious phucker games, maybe it can be an inspiration

>>545994350
that reminds me of something...

>>545997802
>that WILL destroy this medium
i believe that after things get worse, the gaming industry will reach a breaking point and there will be a long lasting renaissance for enjoyers of true conventional video games
until this happens, brace yourself for slop
for context, i hated battle royales since i first played fortnite in 2017
it's been almost a decade and i'm noticing gradually reduced interest in the genre
no trend lasts forever, we're currently in the very temporary slop cycle
be patient, things will improve

>>545997976
Going for the lowest common denominator further and further in pursuit of nothing but profit for years on end sure worked for cinema, right?

>>545998073
Too serious and not funny.

Honestly I'd kinda like to learn something like Godot, if that means I can make music for my own games if no one seems to need music. But I know jack shit about code

>>545998160
Unfortunately by the time it happens I'll be an old fossil by then. I won't be able to produce a serious game when that happens, which is a shame.
And given how the indie market is currently looking, it doesn't seem like things are going to slow down. Only get worse and worse.

>>545998295
Whats your discord?

>>545998295
>if that means I can make music for my own games if no one seems to need music.
You should've been here a year ago when I was still developing my game. I needed lots of muzak. You're too late now that I have released my game, and nobody else in here is making games.

>>545997118
>>545997187
>game is trash
>still has 400+ reviews

>>545998187
are you familiar enough with the movie industry to explain if there is a growing community of double-A or "indie" movie makers making films that are dominating the cultural space that popular movies in the past used to hold?
or phrased differently, are there any undertales or stardew valleys of the movie industry?

>>545998310
healthmaxx, give it 10 years and you'll begin to see improvement
patience is the greatest virtue

>>545998227
The trailers doesn't seem serious at all

>>545998364
You can contact @brainstormfenix until I make a more professional account for this.

>>545998368
Shame, I actually really like muzak as a genre and I would've loved to work with it

>>545998187
Indie games journalists have been freaking out about lootboxes and gambling for the past decade. Life goes on, indie games are bigger than ever. Panic reacting to what some segment of the industry does will always be silly to me. People just love to be outraged and if it's not politics it will be something like videogames as some kind of homeland under attack.

>>545998512
I could use professional musician, but can you make a music that fits medieval fantasy adventure?

forget about the money it made
the fact that a game like metal garden received such a strong positive response means that gamers still love "real" games
even if they're cheap and small indie titles
eventually the dopamine slop will reach a point of saturation and developers will have no choice but to make "real" games again
i have no fear

>>545996679
Starsector uses cd keys and one key can activate an unlimited number of installs. Sseth put his cd key in his video so people could try the game. Granted that video is the only reason I know about the game, and I did buy my own key, but I haven't updated that game in over a year and if I want to install it again I have to go searching through my inbox to find my cd key which is pretty inconvenient compared to just going to my steam library and clicking install.

I think if the jews in this thread are so concerned with paying 30% for Steam which takes care of drm, distribution, updates and discovery if you make enough money for gaben... they'd shit their pants if a youtuber gave out a valid cd key for their game to millions of viewers.

>>545998656
I mean sure, I have enough orchestral instruments for it. Just depends on what you want, references you want me to work with, the concept, etc

>>545998721
Ah, I assumed that might happen. Should be fixed now

>>545998694
>i have no fear
that's good, because fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.

>>545998429
>are you familiar enough with the movie industry to explain if there is a growing community of double-A or "indie" movie makers making films that are dominating the cultural space that popular movies in the past used to hold?
The film industry is way bigger and more expensive than the games industry so technically indie movies aren't what you'd expect. But you can say yes if you consider Tiktok and Youtube in the same ballpark. A lot of people who would be making short indie films in the 20th century and the early 2000s are now on these platforms making whatever and it is greatly fucking over the legacy film industry.
For the "AA devs" equivalent I'd say TV as a medium is comparable, with TV shows and especially streaming also decimating the the film industry. The things that get genuine discussion on /tv/ are TV series now, not films.

>>545998794
true, also they handle anti-cheat correct?

>>545996869
>Anon I will make it for you, entirely for free.
I do not want someone to create music specifically for my game, I want music that is already done, I want to buy the license to use it if I like the songs.

>>545996881
>there is no lack of good free music out there
Where?
>everyone in your pay grade exclusively makes breakcore and chiptune slop
But I do not want to contract someone to create music for my game, I want music that is already made, I want to pick songs I like and pay for license.
>the only option for quality and sovl but also likely to be worse than all of the above if you have no musical training
I have no background in music so it would take me years to get decent at this.
I have skills in programming and graphics, this is enough, I don't want more. I am too old to learn new things like music.

>>545998694
>eventually the dopamine slop will reach a point of saturation and developers will have no choice but to make "real" games again
Why can't both exist?
This extremist totalitarian attitude with some gamers is so fucking weird.

>>545998694
>the fact that a game like metal garden received such a strong positive response means that gamers still love "real" games
Metal garden is a lucky exception. You can go and browse Steam or SteamDB right now to find numerous real games like Metal Garden having less than 1000, 500, 100, some even with less than 10 reviews.
This is the same as saying "but this black homeless guy won the lottery and got himself a house, surely the housing market isn't that bad!".
Even considering Metal Garden's success, it's still pitiful compared to slop. Make a thread about it on /v/ and I guarantee you, you'll be called a dev who's shilling this game despite it having 1k reviews. Nobody knows what Metal Garden is. But everybody knows what Peak and RV there yet is.

>>545998794
>if you make enough money for gaben

>>545999668
make a game people enjoy playing you retarded jeet, why would steam market shovelware

I just have to work faster

>>545999618
>Why can't both exist?
Because the slop eats up all the attention and money. Gaymers won't play more than 5 megaslops a year and unless you're Silksong tier with a strong legacy following, you're never gonna get anywhere. Even the measley success you get will always pale in comparison to slop, and the further it goes the harder it gets for YOU, the real dev, but easier for the slop.

Someone is ruining my life and stealing and destroying everything I do and everyone betrayed me for them.

>>545999618
both will exist, but fewer developers will make dopamine cash grabs because the potential audience for these sorts of games will be fully saturated by large studios with gigantic advertising budgets
the small guys won't be able to compete against $5,000,000 promotion campaigns and will be forced to create something else
that something else is likely to converge on conventional games, RPGs and adventure games, due to indies being able to justify riskier and more unique stories and premises

>>545999781
>the real dev
You mean the artisan who makes a niche game for 200 people and then complains it flopped? Because I'm trying not to be that kind of "real dev".

>>545999653
>You can go and browse Steam or SteamDB right now to find numerous real games like Metal Garden having less than 1000, 500, 100, some even with less than 10 reviews.
please find examples, i hope to play them, i enjoy these sorts of games

>>545996136
This explains why bokube is so shit LMAO

>>545999753
>it's impossible to make a game people enjoy playing without paying gaben

>>546000042
I don't know what kind of game you like, but I once asked an anon in a hidden gems thread on how he finds such games, and he told me he uses SteamDB. He selects by tags he wants, and then filters by review count/price tag/whatever the fuck. I suggest you try that, might find something for yourself.

>>545999786
This happened like 5 times in my life through childhood to adulthood. I just don't trust anyone anymore and keep everyone at arms length as nothing more than acquaintances so I don't care when they eventually betray me

>>545999786
Can you post some concrete examples

>>546000130
the payment is the % they take for each sale, you double retarded faggot

>>546000217
Actually a funny thing happens when you stop being naive you suddenly look around and there are no more predators. Once you become conscious they literally just aren't a thing in your life anymore. It's a beautiful thing.