Discuss joseimuke games and those with similar appeal to the same audience

1st for SHOTA LOVE!

>>1781336 (OP)
Whb sisters we did it.
When will pb release cards for our silly angel boys though...

>>1781524
honestly i don't see the appeal of any of the angels (aside from raphael, he has potential). gabriel is a generic religious zealot and michael is just that + brocon, which is not interesting character-wise. they're not even hot.

>>1781612
I like Michael because he is peak pathetic loser, to the point of feeling bad, and as for Gabriel he's very sexually repressed, which has high ryona potential.
Raphael by far the best one by potential I agree.
It's just my fetish too, breaking pure dumb boys.

>>1781612
The appeal is how they look while tied up and being raped.

Woofia WON

>>1781619
Based, I don’t really follow the story anymore I just want to see more angel correction from the main artist

>>1781617
>>1781619
>breaking pure dumb boys
>how they look while tied up and being raped
i understand now. they definitely have it coming

>>1781336 (OP)
Male Firefly in that HSR skin.

Don't forget about the web event

>>1781719
Thanks sis, I forgot all about it. For others like me, it's under the events tab as Enchanted Season.

Your wishes were heard.

Have there been any leaks about Xavier's myth at all?

>>1781336 (OP)
https://x.com/otomeaddicted/status/1942675885980590217

Question is, does your joseimuke even have Red Flags and problem boys you can date and sexualize?

>>1781950
no proper leaks yet except talks that they'll put a fuckton of effort into it because they want to attract new players and speculation that he'll be some sort of archangel with wings, maybe I shouldn't have blown all my diamonds on the current banner

>>1781952
>date
most joseimuke don't let you date anyone. twst has plenty of red flags like picrel but no dating happens.
in lads, none of the dateable boys are really red flags. caleb would only barely qualify and he's still so soft i frankly don't count him. ikemen villains has the likes of alfons and whb has glasyalabolas among others. i hear the white-haired glasses dude in tears of themis is a red flag too

>>1781927
I got almost 800 seals, if I don't get this bitch I am going to spontaneously combust.

>>1781952
Does it count if the boys are problematic red flags that are also somehow wholesome?

Tanabata sex with wife

>>1781336 (OP)
Just casually dropping this here much like how Cognoshpere just casually dropped this lore bomb on a random Wednesday. For any Pierro and (hopefully playable) Harbinger appreciators here:

https://youtu.be/jvXVmvW8ZQw?si=TH8Zvyre72bQF3kw

>>1782099
>white haired megane
Vyn isn't a red flag, the retards calling him one are basing it off of one very early SR card of his.

>>1781451
Only good post in here, thx

This guy gonna be playable soon?

>>1782122
They better give Agares an L card too.


But >>1781927 doesn't seem like Noris art again huh.

>>1782365
>Agares's kink is Hybristophilia
Imagine having to rob a liquor store just to get some dick.

>>1782365
>bl art
otome btw

>>1781952
Actual dating doesn't happen in majority of joseimuke outside of otome games. The most you'll get is some (you)bait that's more for fanservice then actual romantic progression in the story.
That being said, it depends on what you classify as a red flag because a real red flag for me is picrel and he's from an omnislop game.

>>1782371
Rob a grocery store, give him an orange and a little attention and his all yours forever.

>>1782402
Congrats, today you learned that people will draw BL art of anything

>>1782365
That fanartist is my favorite. She feeds well on my fetishes.

>>1781927
FEET
>>1782402
The uptick in yume art and ocs from jp girlies isn’t much but it’s honest work

Whb has surprisingly many fanarts.
Chinese girlies doing yumeship ones, Japanese ones do bl mostly.
English or other fandom both.
I like this one in particular, @poem.

>>1782469

>>1782460
>>1782469
>angel bullying yume art
Holy based

>>1782480
Most of the fanart with the angels is bullying or femdom, since they're masochists in the game too, especially Raphael, whose fetish is getting humiliated, raped and dirtied (spitting on him, smearing his cum all over his face.
In all his stories so far, he just lets the MC live out whatever goon fantasy she wants without complaint, because:
>he's into it
>it's the closest thing to love or attention he can get. He's adorably pathetic and kimoe.
Gabriel's more of a bitch, since he has a praise kink, and he actually enjoyed his rape the most.
As for Michael, he's kind of a loser who's depressed that his brother abandoned his ass, but we don't know much about him yet. He gets his ass beaten for now and seethes about the devils and MC stealing his precious oniichan.
But yeah right now, the closest angel to the MC is Raphael. He already likes her a lot too and is planning to abduct her and have her take his virginity, lol.

>>1782527
>since they're masochists in the game too
I remember when retards were bitching because the cards that clearly featured characters being raped (the Christmas cards) actually had the characters being raped.

>>1781952
Lovebrush I think has yan bad ends no?

>>1782402
het sex is for reproduction, only gay sex is true love

>>1781719
To add, the share feature doesn't actually require you to share to complete it. If you use the twitter version and then delete the draft, it still counts.

everytime I try to open lads now it takes like five to ten minutes just to get in I give this new update a zero outta ten

>>1782875
It still counts even if you don't have an account.

>>1782364
Since he’s one of the sibs I’d imagine so

>>1782151
>Genshin lore drop
>Pierro appears again officially

Frankly, I think Pierro would be the only "DILF" or older man character in Genshin I can imagine and believe some yumes might gush over. As opposed to Varka being a muscular meat head Bara.

Have a Dahlia.

>>1782865
Now I'm remembering the event story where the MC locked her fake brother in a cage to keep him from leaving her, which made him unable to stop a world-ending prophecy so everyone died lmao

Not really a fan of how Paimon's fucked up eyes (Eye? I think the cross one might genuinely be like that) were just contacts, I enjoyed it more when his eyes were just like that. He's still cute, though.

>>1783487
Do we get to let Purson know that we fucked his son?

Xavier's myth is rumored to be of very high priority for PG and guarded really well, I don't think we'll be getting any leaks soon unless there's an update and someone data mines the files

>>1783514
Unfortunately it's not a story with much substance... 10 chapters long but paced for at least 20, and it doesn't really go anywhere. The whole climax of the story was finding out that Purson was Paimon's dad, which to be fair, I didn't expect coz I thought they'd be brothers. There's a couple of cute and cool scenes, Paimon and Ppyong together is always cute, the whole demon ghost ship thing is pretty cool, Mammon's got a railgun on his ship, but ultimately the story's takeaway is that "Paimon has a dad and he's a pirate, Paimon might have also been a pirate coz he's good at boating." Well, I don't play WHB for the writing, I suppose.

>>1783527
I swear Paimon's closed eyes sprite always makes him look like he has a scar on his left eye (stupid hair strand).

>>1783527
I hope that red haired sailor, think his name was Hawk or something, gets a low-tier card.

My favorite Alkaid came home in
20 rolls, what a relief. It's also nice that the Godheim date versions are a bit more than just a costume change.

>>1783487
Paimon is so pretty it makes me sick that we can't peg him.

>>1781336 (OP)
Shoujo manga starring Eichi Tenshouin and Adonis from Ensemble Stars.

https://x.com/sakaimii/status/1665516477284511744/photo/1

this summer event is just gonna be quincy and dog again isnt it...

>>1782151
You gotta be trolling, this is all waifus who have the ugliest faces I've ever seen and you know damn well they're not making Pierro or any male harbingers playable.

>>1783742
>isekaislop
>mid ass looking boys
>le quirky self-aware protag
>le quirky self-aware "humor"
I want these to fucking die. I hate this shitty "otome" isekaislop that isn't even what actual otome game are like.

>>1783742
>Isekai
Why won't this shitty trope die?

>>1783957
At it's core, it's an easy way to give viewers a PoV character who's unfamiliar with the world, and they learn about it along with the viewer, informing the viewer about the world in a natural manner. However, pretty much every shoujo isekai is just Georgian era Europe written by an east Asian woman who's knowledge of Georgian era Europe comes entirely exclusively from other east Asian women (who also didn't know all that much about Georgian era Europe), so it's a moot point.

>>1783957
Isekai is to Japanese what zombie films are to Burgers. Escapism media and a sign that society is fucked.

>>1784028
>getting vored by a zombie is escapism
ngl now im curious if there is any zombie otome... asking for a friend

>>1784028
Wouldn't escapism media be something like superhero or action films with a chad protagonist?

>>1784069
Zombies are slow and retarded, so people can imagine themselves being a big buff Ving Rhames type going around punching zombie heads off.

>>1783957
The "modern" isekai is new but the concept of "person in another world" is over a century old at this point. The fundamental root of an isekai is a very straight-forward hero's journey but generally without the ending of the person/people returning home the the series can go on and on (just looping the middle third over and over).

>>1783527
There's a second part of the event with more story isn't there?

>>1783742
>>1783916
>isn't even what actual otome game are like
this is probably the thing that pisses me off the most. few to none of the people making this slop actually know what otome games are like and it really shows. even aside from that it's always the same fucking cliches and the same fucking european-esque setting with boring nobility designs. there's going to be the same fucking evil woman rival character (or two). snooze

>>1783742
>Post from 2023
>Has literally nothing to do with Ensemble Stars
Why are you such a fucking faggot? Get permabanned already

>>1783793
technically Olivine and Rei have been MIA the longest but I don't think there's logic to their rotations at this point

>>1783793
i thought it was pretty obvious we're getting a dante, rei and kuya triple banner next

>>1784195
A lot of otome players have been saying this for years whenever retards that only watch "otome" isekai ask about where they can find otome games with a "villainess" in them, is that otome isekaislop is just shoujo power fantasy but really poorly written and almost everything from those shitty stories have nothing to do with real otome games.
It's just retarded made up shit started from nips copying each other's fanfic story of some old webnovel of a girl getting isekai'd into an otome game and the reason why all these awful stories have the same shit over and over again is because they're just regurgitating the same vomit tropes since no one bothers to play actual otome games for research. "Otome" isekai is just a game of telephone between hack writers who have never played otome games in their lives and base their stories off other otome isekaislop.

>>1784196
I don't get why anons are replying to that post anyway, it's completely unrelated to the general and based on the posting style is very obviously the resident hoyofag baiting for (You)s.

>>1784208
I replied because I wanted an excuse to shit on isekaislop.
But yeah, Hoyoschizo has been getting desperate lately since no cares about Hoyoslop /here/ so he's been baiting using other stuff he doesn't know shit about and tacking on names of whatever he thinks is a joseimuke like the retarded seanig he is.

>>1784208
>>1784214
>I wanted an excuse to shit on isekaislop
pretty much that. otome isekai is majority garbage and i have no idea why so many people flock to it when art, writing, characters, etc. are all low-quality in nearly every single one of them. it's like watching amish people living in the 1800's while the rest of us are here in 2025

>>1783527
>Purson was Paimon's dad
I need father-son oyakodon threesome with these two IMMEDIATELY

>>1784315
It's probably because it's formulaic that they like it.Why put effort into reading actual otome which might have elements and plotpoints they don't like when they can consume they know they will enjoy without having to think about it.

>>1784315
>i have no idea why so many people flock to it
Same reason why waifufags flock to average harem isekaislop. It's switch-your-brain-off bottom of the barrel entertainment catered specifically to otakus. Isekaislop is escapism powerfantasy where the mc is op, never has any real challenges, everyone that opposes them is super horrible and cartoonishly evil so the audience isn't allowed to sympathize or think the mc and friends are wrong, and the world is literally just a copy-paste of other isekaislop worlds but with slight differences, and a gimmick that'll be dropped after 5 episodes because it's the anime equivalent of junkfood.
Villainess/otome isekaislop is the junkfood of shoujo and the only difference between it and regular isekaislop is that it's a subgenre "technically" aimed at women. I say technically because some otome isekaislop is written by men because of course moids want to use another genre aimed at girls to make fun of female hobbies and make it about themselves. I've seen "otome" isekai written by moid otakus and it's literally just harem waifushit but they slapped otome on it. It was disgusting.

https://x.com/Femcel_Hnin/with_replies
I found the average poster from here

Now hoyofag is posting people he got rejected by.

>>1784318
We need an event where the MC gets spit-roasted by all the father characters they have introduced so far.

Welp, for those interested, Star Rail is giving out Archer for free today.
>He comes with some materials to build/level him.
>His signature Light Cone is guaranteed after 200 pulls total on the Limited banners this version. I picked my boy up.

>>1784526
There ARE 3 boy banners being run this time around. I'm still real happy that I got all 3. I think hoyo is having 2 of the guys share a banner with girls so that the waifufans don't riot.
>>1784476
It's kinda weird how obsessed with some gay porn game these threads are.

>>1784533
>It's kinda weird how obsessed with some gay porn game these threads are.
Ah, yes, the "gay porn game" that features a female MC option. And this coming from a person obsessed with a game that doesn't even let you fuck men.

>>1784535
nta but WHBs female option has as much weight as the female option in far cry 5, let's not kid ourselves. WHBs artwork and it's storyline is as much BL pandering as it gets, which is fine, the MC has no substance in that game to begin with, male or female MC

>>1784570
i've never played WHB but due to the official art and fanbase i always assumed it was just more yaoi...i had no idea there was a fem mc option until anons told me.

>>1784533
It's a joseimuke thread. That doesn't mean only yume content.

>>1783659
Congrats on the early Alkaid! I really like the cute chibi avatars they're giving out during this event. Can't wait for Cael's

>>1784631
>i had no idea there was a fem mc option until anons told me.
It was originally fem!mc only until twitter begged for them to change it

>>1784570
>the MC has no substance in that game to begin with, male or female MC
And that's the best part, because why should I give a fuck about the MC when I only care about the LIs?

Nah for real I don't give a shit about the mc in whb. Just want to see Gabriel's cute little hole and insert things in. Leviathans and Satan's holes are the cutest so far.

>>1784535
Isn't that the game where the MC is just a voyeur?

>>1784721
>tfw mcs great grandpa was ballz deep those holes

>>1784708
>>1784721
That's the point. BL in general doesn't rely on a MC to function. WHB still looks and is written like a BL, MC or no MC. Whereas otome games need a female MC to work, since that's the definition of the genre. WHB really is just mainly yaoi between the characters, the MC doesn't matter. I wish they would've done that from the beginning and advertised it as such.

>>1784746
if the MC doesn't actually matter in WHB then what do they even do in the story?
these types of joseimuke always confuse me because why bother making an mc at all when you can just follow the boys then?
Hypnosis mic didn't have a protag and that was fine but stuff like Ensharts, Twst, Tkrb, etc...have a blankslate mc that is basically just a camera with legs. does the mc exist just as a thing for marketing?

>thread so dead most of the posts are just the hoyoschizo and 2 retards replying to him
the fact that there wont be any new game coming out any time soon doesn't help, its so fucking over for jose...

>>1784758
I don't think Hoyoschizo is the one asking about gay sex in WHB considering he's just a seanig moid that's scared of gay men.
Hoyoschizo only ever post about mainstream shit like Ensharts, Hoyoslop, or LADs. And it's always about yumeshit and never fujoshit.

>>1784753
>what do they even do in the story
They get fucked by the LIs and occasionally make shields out of sex toys and power up demons.

>>1784746
>BL in general doesn't rely on a MC to function
What does this even mean? I get the feeling that you've never actually played a BL/yaoi game.

>>1784767
They should make a BL game with no MC. There should be a cast of boys and the objective is to pair up the ones you like and make them date

>>1784746
>why bother making an mc at all when you can just follow the boys then?
I agree, WHB doesn't need a MC with how it's written, the aspect people flock to are the characters themselves and the dynamics between one another, next to the obvious porn part
>>1784767
Use your brain. BL as a genre is just the romantic (and nowadays sexual relationship) between two dudes, if a cast has 10+ male characters who have been fucking one another that's clearly BL, wherever there is a male/female MC at that point doesn't matter.
Just because the limited amount of BL games have a male MC doesn't mean they need a male MC to be a BL game.

>>1784776
>if a cast has 10+ male characters who have been fucking one another that's clearly BL
So who are these male characters fucking each other in WHB? Since you're claiming it's a BL game.

>>1784773
First BL game I played (Angel's Feather) was like that, if I remember well. Lots of pairings.
I'm sure there's more.

>>1784781
It still had a single main character that you played as though. Your interactions with a specific character would put you on their route and the leftovers could end up together depending on what happened on that route.

>>1784786
I guess I didn't remember well then...

>>1784787
I only remember because I'm still waiting for this piece of shit to get a full English translation.

>>1784791
Anon it's been 22 years, there are people in this thread younger than the game. I don't think you're getting that translation.

>>1784791
Just mtl it sis. Luna is just fine.

>>1784780
I know you're a raging retard with 0 reading comprehension but I never claimed that WHB is a BL game but that it has more BL in it than any otome elements and thus not needing a MC, the art is the biggest depiction here next to the dialogue. Sitri and his massive boner for Solomon, who has fucked most of the Kings in the past. Satan seems to be the closest to him as well, they even have a CG with Satan kissing Solomons cheek. That's not even mentioning that every demon wants to fuck that man. Dantalion and Ronove having a mutual jerking off session, Satan making out with Minhyuk and Minhyuk in general having his second gay awakening meeting the demons for the first time, think that was one of the first events in WHB. Asmodeus entire existence, wanting to get into the other Kings pants and so on.

I've never seen a schizo like you pearl clutching over people saying this game has BL content between the characters.

>>1784817
>Minhyuk
sis at least figure out how to spell the names right, it's Minhyeok. how do you even have trouble with this? literally 8 letters

>>1784746
>>1784817
>WHB really is just mainly yaoi between the characters, the MC doesn't matter
this isn't really accurate when the focus of the game is h-scenes between the mc (female or male) and the devils. there is yaoi mentioned and hinted at as mentioned, but the only actual explicit scenes all involve the mc. there's 15 or so h cgs for different boys throughout the main story, and card stories always involve detailed sex scenes between a devil/angel and mc at some point.

>>1784753
essentially what >>1784766 said but to go into more detail, mc has some magic from being solomon's descendant and can go around powering up the devils who are locked in a very long war against tyrannical angels. the main story is barely fucking going anywhere but they're building mc up to be the lynchpin in turning the tide of said war. mc needs to constantly be filled up with devil energy to continue surviving in hell so that's the story excuse for all the sex

>>1784476
anon you are so fucking right. mammon's dad is hotter than the majority of the other characters and i will stand by that

>Oath's strength
>Oath Recovery Boost
>Expedited Energy Boost
If I'm running r0 cards, I know 1 EEB is good, but should I do a 2nd or get one of the Oath cores? If the latter, which one is preferable?

>>1784838
At r0 it must be 1 OR and 1 EEB cause the oath recov rate only increases at r1

>>1784832
Yes there are H scenes in the main story that feature the MC, they're still the MC of the story I just don't think they are necessary for WHB as a whole. The game would have done just as fine, if not even better without a MC.
The usual H scenes with the gameplay portion attached to it, aka secret club Adore feature, really reads as you playing from a mob PoV, the focus is the character itself, the MC doesn't really have any importance unless the H scene plays in the main story. Look at this Raphael artwork, there are literal male mob characters behind him it's pretty obvious what this is alluding to just from the art alone.

>>1784832
nobody gives a single flying fuck about the MC in whb and the wattpad levels of sex scenes in the main story are certainly not the appeal of the game to begin with.

Be honest. Will anyone actually give this a try once it's actually playable?

I'm sick and tired of playing gachas, I just want a real game with some cute boys

>>1784854
Then play otome and bl visual novels?

>>1784851
Literally none of the characters interest me from appearance alone, but I'll give it a shot just to see what it gives. My expectations are super low, it looks low effort and that they are just banking on collabs.

>>1784851
this whore comes stock with kneepads...

>>1784862
You tell anon to play blvn, and as far as I remember since being a little baby fujo, in the past 10? or so years barely like 10 proper bl vn have come out since.... (not counting western trash either)

>>1784842
>he game would have done just as fine, if not even better without a MC.
How the fuck are you going to have a game without a MC for the player to play as?

>>1784817
Congrats, today you learned what fujobait is.

>>1784891
NTA but you can make a game that focuses on several characters and each character has an individual story, so there is no "main" character.
What anon probably meant was no self-insert character or blank slate though

>>1784851
whats with gooks and tiny ass heads? even the females get drawn with tiny heads

>>1784851
fuck no. between this, whb, and others gooks really need to fix their fucking proportions

>>1784842
>secret club Adore feature
i don't think you know what i'm referring to. i'm talking about the relatively extensive stories in the secret club section when i mean the card stories, not just the live2d interaction part. those are from the mc's pov.

>>1784895
Lmao you can really tell when WHB is someone's first joseimuke

>>1784851
>aside from far left guy half of them have the same exact hairstyle and the other half have the other same exact hairstyle
lol. lmao even.

Nothing new shown at Bilibili World? Okay I'll go back to sleep

>>1784918
Don't hate them for having a goomba fetish.

>>1784851
personally after seeing the (1) ten second video they posted that actually showed gameplay it looks boring as fuck so I'll just wait for the hscenes to hit myreadingmanga. They're very obviously targeting webtoon fujos for this with the amount of collabs they keep posting every week so im curious to see if those sisters will actually be willing to fork over money for a gacha when they barely spend money on their own webtoons

>>1784854
If you haven't already, look into Musou. Samurai Warriors has plenty of good looking and cute boys like Mitsuhide, Mitsunari, Ranmaru, Motochika, Yoshitsugu, etc. Warriors Orochi also has these characters along with Dynasty Warriors and some exclusive Like Nezha, Ares, Perseus and Odin. TKRB Musou, obviously. Basara, too, although it's not got much going for it in the west so you'll have to suck it up and accept that if you don't know Japanese, you won't understand the story (Though an English fan patch exists for the fourth game, it's only seemingly key info such as the menus so far). Personally, I tend to prefer the Musou interpretations of the characters, except for Mitsuhide- Musou Mitsuhide is one of my favourites, mind you, it's just that Basara Mitsuhide is a psycho sadomasochistic Bishie with long white hair and that's my FAVOURITE FLAVOUR of anime boy. Unfortunately Basara's dead, though- turns 20 in about a week, and all capcom have announced is a fucking cafe collab.
>>1784862
She asked for a real game, anon.

>>1784945
Oh, Sakon and Katsuie are cuter in Basara, too.

>>1784854
Recently played Rune Factory GOA and had fun with it

>>1784945
If you play the Empires versions of Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors the games also become dating sim-lite.

>>1784945
>Basara Mitsuhide is a psycho sadomasochistic Bishie with long white hair and that's my FAVOURITE FLAVOUR of anime boy
nta. but as the person who posted last thread about a different psycho sadistic (though not masochistic) boy with long white hair last thread and also enjoys the likes of marazhai/abdirak/hisoka/zenos, you have my undivided attention

>>1785020
>looked it up
>can make your own character too
uuh which one should i play sis, if it has autistic grinding and collecting characters even better...

>>1785030
Grab Samurai Warriors 4 DX first, it's the one with the main story where you get to know the characters. Empires is a spin off game with more strategy elements but doesn't have a main story. 4-ii is essentially glorified DLC, not a replacement for the main game.
>collecting characters
Technically in chronicle mode, but honestly chronicle mode gets pretty boring real fast as it's missions are far too short in my opinion compared to the regular story levels, and one of your two characters is forced to be your edit character so they'll get OP instantly.

man wtf

>>1785068
the sequel

>>1785030
Dynasty Warriors Empires to me felt more fleshed out than Samurai Warriors Empires. So I'd go with that one. The older Playstation versions of DWE had more features, but the newer ones have better graphics.

>>1784753
Anon the hypmic game had a nameable protag but is essentially invisible because the appeal of hypmic is the BL.

>>1784758
You're so obsessed with this I'm starting to think you're the hoyoschizo itself running out of ideas on what to post.

>>1785099
honestly it's been years since i played the game and i genuinely forgot there was a character for the player because they are so nonexistent you might as well have just been following the boys.

>tfw no yandere tulpa to bring you oranges

>>1784851
No. The character designs are kinda generic and unappealing.

>>1781451
Zero Era soon I hope. I want to pin one down and make him auto-facial from the jackhammer position

>>1784911
It's a retarded beauty standard,just like every other korean beauty standard. It makes you look taller it seems.
>>1784851
No, the dorito faces are gross.

>>1785265
Behold, the most attractive man in South Korea!

Need a beauty standard that focuses on veiny forearms and necks...

>>1784895
>>1784919
>calling WHB fujobait
What is there to bait when WHB has explicit BL in it, are you two retarded? You can say fujobait to enstars, twst, hypmic, trip18 and so on but not the one game that has BL in it

>>1784851
I'm something who is more interested in bottoms than tops and so far none of the bottoms interest me except the guy with glasses.
I'll just watch from afar for now.

>>1784854
Only recommendation i have is play Rainbow sea's mobile version with the steam guide at the side, it's not a gacha but it requires internet connection (the dev wanted money to fund the steam/switch version), aside from character sprites and minor gameplay elements the mobile version is not obsolete since it has the full story and endings, also yes it has a nice english translation and not mtl.

>>1785339
As someone who follows manhwas some gooks have an obsession with the tops to the point where it comes off self insert-y. If there is any sub-genre of BL that can be accused of having fans with self insert like behavior it's them.

would you a mermaid (merman)?

>>1785354
The bottoms in gook BL manhwas are essentially flat girls with dicks. Even jap ones are better than them on this.

>>1785339
*someone
Damn, I don't know how to write...

>>1784854
Fire Emblem has many a good boy. I personally recommend Three Houses, pic very related. If you're not about the strategy gameplay there's easy mode if you really have to

>>1785372
I wish. Still too manly for my taste.

>>1785282
If you're playing as a female MC where is all this explicit BL at?

>>1785372
hm I don't know about that, do you mean appearance or personality? In terms of looks the majority I've read are either 1) generic 2) too manly.

The constant censorship on the word "brother" for Caleb's stories are driving me insane. Starting to feel like a moid when they cover up hips or some shit.

>>1785422
according to the raging sperg >>1784817, dialogue mentions, contextless cgs in loading screens, and off-screen events apparently count as "explicit" bl lmao. there isn't a single sex scene with two male non-mc characters in the game but there are plenty with the characters x mc.
fujosis needs to raise her standards and play actual bl like nu carnival like the rest of us instead of coping with a modified otome game that the devs straight-out said was written from a female mc perspective, but that's what you'd expect from someone still willingly playing a kusoge that shit

>>1785546
>willingly playing a kusoge that shit
The irony of someone that plays NuCarnival saying this when Nu Carnival has been shit for a while.

>>1783916
>>1784195
>>1783989
>>1784028
>>1784130
>>1784205
I guess you can all blame and pinpoint the rise and proliferation of Villainess Isekai all the way to back to My Next Life as a Villainess; AKA, Bakarina.

Because it seems like that given so many Isekai Villainesses and many modern day otome inspired isekais took off and went hogwild thanks to the success of Bakarina. So other thank the hack fraud slop writers, it all started with Bakarina just like nearly every single modern Isekai within and after the 2010s all took off thanks to Sword Art Online. Villainess/Otome Isekai is isekai slop-junk food for women and My Next Life as a Villainess is the Sword Art Online for women, otome players and female otaku.

>>1784196
>>Has literally nothing to do with Ensemble Stars
That's the joke. The first time I saw that randomly in my feed, I almost saw Eichi and Adonis from Ensemble Stars by just squinting my eyes hard enough. Thats the joke explained.

Either post about actual joseimuke or fuck off, stupid useless seanig. You've never played Ensharts.

Also Shitkarina only to took off because it was the first to get an anime. Otome isekaislop started because of "I got reincarnated into a Yandere Otome Game" webnovel. Fucking retard.

Fushigi Yugi was actually an otome isekai in disguise
Prove me wrong.

I'm surprised that with all the mahou shoujo shit there was when I was a kid there is hardly any related otome with the same theme

>>1785737
Mahou shoujo primarily focuses on a cast of girls, so you'd have to juggle both that and the LI routes in the same game. In that sense mahou shoujo as a vn genre tends to end up as waifushit/porn because it's easier to have 1 guy romance a bunch of magical girls vs having one magical girl interact with several other magical girls in addition to several guys. Even the only mahou shoujo otome I can think of relies on the guys turning into girls, which allows them to address the cast issue I mentioned.
Alternatively it's because mahou shoujo is either for young girls or for men who fap to the girls

>>1785380
He doesn't get much love compared to Dimitri but I like him.

>>1785737
Like what anon said here >>1785759 the mahou shoujo genre isn't suitable for an otome if you plan to have multiple other girls in it along with the romanceable boys. The cast would be way too bloated and the main draw of otome games are supposed to be the boys so having other women there would just eat up screentime. Beside, other women barely exist in otome games anyway.
The only time I've seen an otome game attempt a mahou shoujo premise is Paradigm Paradox where it's the female mc whose a magical girl but the LIs are the rest of her magical girl crew that turn into girls when they transform kinda like Ranma 1/2. The game was really lame and the romance was mid to nonexistent according to everyone that played it. The only reason I knew about it was because I followed the main artist for it on twitter.

>>1785839
>but the LIs are the rest of her magical girl crew that turn into girls when they transform
Might be the worst premise for an otome game I've heard. Yeah, the straight women audience really wants to play a game where the gimmick is the LIs turn into girls. Why were Binan and that one tokyo mew mew spin off the only things to ever play mahou shounen straight without being some horrible genderswap shit?

Come to think of it, how come 99% of all genderswap stuff is male to female? I get there's the societal view women are less than men, so the mtf stuff is about bringing men down a rung on the ladder or something, but female to male just doesn't exist without the reverse also happening. Even in shojo and Josei I see MTF genderswap but the only time I've ever seen ftm by it's own is magical girl ore. Is there any reason that virtually nobody has ever explored it?

>>1785839
The romance is mid to nonexistent because of one very key thing: there were too many characters and plot points to viably develop each one in a satisfying way.
The magical boys (ones on the left besides pinkie) are pretty simple in both character and story from what I remember, so they're pretty short and to the point. That's fine. It wasn't memorable or that good but they could get away with it.
However. Pink guy, for example, is a "complex" character that the MC doesn't understand and he's not very willing to explain himself. But the route time was running out so they just had her talk to a character who only pops up when exposition is needed to explain his character to the MC so the plot can get a move on. No organic development or anything, just "c'mon kid we're running the clock". I'm not entirely sure he even gets a proper confession scene.
Moreover, the megane in the corner there is I think like her magical girl boss or something, I don't quite remember, but he has to do a lot of the heavy lifting for explaining what is actually going on in the plot because you wouldn't guess it but it actually has a very strange setting where people only live in these domed cities and everything outside of them are unlivable wastelands with toxic air or something like that. So on top of what was going on with the MC's affairs (e.g. her friend got injured and kidnapped) and the characters' arcs, there was also the mystery and mechanics of the setting and eventually greater world politics.
It's a shame because the blonde guy was so within my tastes. Kind of mentally ill but extremely genki and cute. He deserved better

https://x.com/tysonmeoww/status/1944475236956770634

>>1785759
>mahou shoujo is either for young girls or for men who fap to the girls
OMG THIS THIS!!!! HOLY SHIT THIS! Thank you sososo much for bringing up this fact. if you don't despise and hate men enough here are more why men are such pig headed pervert freaks that ruin everything for women. Shoujo and otome are primarily meant for female audiences and women in general, made by women for women and female audiences. But unfortunately, narrow minded moids and horny men just cannot help themselves but barge into spaces and places not meant for women and then make it all about them and "for the bros and homies."

LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID TO THINGS SAILOR MOON AND OTHER SIMILAR SHOUJO AND FOR-WOMEN AND GIRLS SHOWS WHEN YOU WANT TO LOOK UP FAN ART ONLY TO SEE HOW MUCH MALE-CENTRIC AND MALE OREITNED PORN AND GOONER SLOP EXIST OF THEM!

the girls being degraded and reduced into mere vapid whores and out of character weaklings who get easily assaulted and raped by cartoonishly ugly men!? And the usual blacked, "lesbians getting dicked" and NTR slop, cant forget those!

Men sometimes truly are the fucking worst!

>>1785880
>Come to think of it, how come 99% of all genderswap stuff is male to female?
porn and/or the "cute" factor

>>1785955
>this is considered fanservice

>>1785970
It's why I laugh whenever I see the "de-center men, make more yuri/less yaoi" argument, because inevitably making a series with only female-characters, even if you do minimal sexualization in the designs, tends to attract the worst moids, whereas making horny male designs repels them.

>>1785737
Why aren't there any mahou shounen stuff anyway? There needs to be more boys wearing frilly outfits without genderbending.

>>1785995
any male character not covered up 300 pounds of fats dirt and sweat is considered fanservice for women

>>1786015
It exists, just not a whole lot of it. Binan is probably the premier example. Tokyo mew mew ole also exists, though it's not very notable. Fairy Ranmaru fucking sucks from a story standpoint and bizarrely has nothing to do with Mori Ranmaru I'm pretty sure, but one of the transformation sequences has the character shoving his bulge in the camera so it's got that going for it. I guess because as stated mahou shojo is catered to young girls or perverted men, neither of which want men, and it's kind of difficult to take the premise seriously.

>>1785880
>Why were Binan and that one tokyo mew mew spin off the only things to ever play mahou shounen straight without being some horrible genderswap shit?
there's also fairy ranmaru, which actually even had a nice amount of fanservice. shame that show had so little popularity and marketing. i only first heard of it months after it had ended

>>1785880
>Come to think of it, how come 99% of all genderswap stuff is male to female?
We want to improve, not downgrade.

>>1786035
I remember people still whining about it being fujobait and the characters being straight, even though it had two canon homo relationships.

>>1786037
i don't give a shit about that, i want more hot fictional men. real men deserve less.

>>1786015
Does Ichi the Witch count
He's the only "real" mahou shounen in the manga though

>>1786042
They're still male to me, just with a female body.

>>1785995
Matome Groggy Heaven is a better depiction of how fanservice in joseimuke would look like if it were anything close to what men get. The crap that those embarrassing chinkslop slurpers call fanservice is just male power fantasy crap.

>>1785590
and yet it's still better than whb

>>1786044
>They're still male to me, just with a female body.
what kind of retarded tranny cope is this? how low are your fucking standards that you'll unironically settle for "draw a girl and call it a boy"?

>>1786051
You sure you're not the one who embraces tranny philosophy?
A male character that is given tits and pussy is still a male with tits and pussy. Unless you also do stupid shit like having them identify as a girl.

>>1785839
>>1785880
>>1785759
>Mahou shoujo primarily focuses on a cast of girls, so you'd have to juggle both that and the LI routes in the same game.
I a similar concept for a rpg. Where you are a leader of magical girl group and you have LIs that you go for while your group have their own LI. I not sure how much other girls would be interested with their team's love life.
In my head it plays like a Mahou Shoujo Persona like.

>>1786054
>a male with tits and pussy
imagine being this mentally ill
kys

>>1786107
That's all you could come up with? Holy low iq.

>they are still male to me even if they are female
Just say you are gay sis

>>1786015
There's Magical Girl Dandelion but the magical boy is a pretty minor character in that I think.

Fairy ranmaru was ultra kino. Id kill for a s2.

>>1786054
>male character that is given tits and pussy is still a male with tits and pussy
What is it with troons and projecting? Keep this tranny shit out of here

>>1786054
ywnbaw

>tranny obsession + twitter pic
Trannies own you, seanig-kun. You should thank the one who diddled you as a child, at least you were able to have sex once in your life.

>>1785543
I'm not a yume or a shoujofag but I thought pretend incest/fake incest or simply just incest was one of the most popular romance tropes

>>1786109
>y-you have low iq cuz you don't like cuntboys!
what mental asylum did you escape from?

>>1786162
Cuntboys don't have tits, retard.

>>1786139
>kiss and promise to love the retarded antagonist to stop him from being evil
Guts could learn a thing or two from the main character of Fairy Ranmaru

>>1786054
>A male character that is given tits and pussy is still a male with tits and pussy.
Well, no anon, that's a woman. If a man was to magically lose all his male primary, secondary and tertiary characteristics and have them replaced with female ones, he would then be female, regardless of any mental hangups about it.
>Tra-
Transsexualism is incorrect precisely because (other than it attracting really annoying people) it's not currently physically possible to change a human being's sex. If it were to suddenly become possible to do so, then referring to a male who had become female as still being a man would be just as incorrect as refering to a transsexual male as female is today.

>>1786228
You can never be a gender other than the one you were born with, end of story.
Even if surgical operation improves to the point of perfection (it'll happen in the future), you'll always be a male who changed his body to female, not a girl.
As for fictional characters, ever watched Ranma 1/2? The MC personality is exactly the same when he turns into female. Nobody who knows him treats him like a girl when he transforms. And why should they? It's a male.

>>1785371
Breed all monster men NOW

Either I didn't understand anon's original post or every anon misunderstood but wasn't this about genderbends? If I see my fav male genderbent into a girl I'll still see him as the original male character that he is.

>>1786257
Anon, from where I'm standing you seem to hold the quite frankly bizarre position that your gender is immutable from birth yet also depends entirely on identity.
>A male character that is given tits and pussy is still a male with tits and pussy. Unless you also do stupid shit like having them identify as a girl.
>The MC personality is exactly the same when he turns into female. Nobody who knows him treats him like a girl when he transforms
I fear that I may not be eloquent enough to explain this to you, but seemingly by your logic it would be a homosexual act for a man to have sex with a male who was magically transformed into a female, yet entirely straight if a man had sex with a female who was magically transformed into a male. Now, I can't say for certain whether you really believe that, as quite frankly I'm not sure all your synapses are connected. but I will leave you with this: I play joseimuke to ogle MALE BODIES and not female ones, because if I wanted to ogle female bodies I would have 10,000 other choices that weren't joseimuke. And genderbending is a shit tier fetish anyway.

>wasnt this about genderbends?
>reply "We want to improve, not downgrade" to why only males get gender bent to females
No one but troons want that shit nigga

>>1785020
So glad these games are being brought up here, they’re my guilty pleasure. This series has always been surprisingly pandery to self-inserters/oc enjoyers, even in mainline titles. I wish they’d make an Empires version of SW5, but I’m not sure how well-received it was. I wanted to try out Origins, but I’ll just wait until they let you play as a girl again if they do a side game or move on to the next installment.

>>1786336
SW5 had potential but it was squandered. I quite like the artstyle, and there's a few characters who's redesigns I like a lot more than the original such as Yoshimoto and Ieyasu. I skipped SoS because I don't really care for the Sanada but focusing on the Oda is fine in my book because They're a lot more interesting and diverse. But the game had too many flaws that make it worse than 4, obviously the cloned movesets despite having less characters is bad. No Keiji was bad, but no Ranmaru was unforgivable. I've heard people say that he was too similar to Yasuke for being a bodyguard close to Nobunaga so he got left out, but the games had previously shown that Ranmaru and Mitsuhide had been close prior to Honnoji, and they could have used the expanded focus to develop that relationship further to drive the betrayal even closer home. But Mitsuhide pretty famously didn't care for Yasuke, and the only reason he didn't call him a slur when he stripped him of his rank is he didn't know any. Honestly I think the next SW game will either be an origins type or ignore SW5 anyway, Abyss doesn't have a single SW5 interpretation of a character yet. But then again abyss doesn't have every character yet- I wish they'd focus on completing the actual warriors cast possibly including Orochi before they had started introducing guest characters from series I don't care about. But whatever.

>>1786297
literally this.
>man with tits and a pussy
next to no one except for confused straight men wants that.

can the moids fuck off from the thread and sperg out in a different general?

>>1786373
>e-everyone that doesn't agree with me or does something i don't like is a man!!!

>>1785970
>if you don't despise and hate men enough here are more why men are such pig headed pervert freaks that ruin everything for women. Shoujo and otome are primarily meant for female audiences and women in general, made by women for women and female audiences. But unfortunately, narrow minded moids and horny men just cannot help themselves but barge into spaces and places not meant for women and then make it all about them and "for the bros and homies."
>LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID TO THINGS SAILOR MOON AND OTHER SIMILAR SHOUJO AND FOR-WOMEN AND GIRLS SHOWS WHEN YOU WANT TO LOOK UP FAN ART

You do realize you're making an error by assumit that some male anons and gooner men quietly drawing, making and commissioning porn of a girls' franchise in a 4chan thread is somehow a bad terrible thing. When similarly there female anons and femcels drawing chaste fan art of ecchi heroines in a crystal cafe thread, or porn with a large focus on the male characters from some shounen franchise in the female POV thread here on /h/, is akin to barging into somebody's space and inconveniencing them, which it isn't. Yeah you probably are not aware of this but go to both /h/ and /aco/ and you will see female gaze porn with emphasized focus and sexualization on the male characters.

And girls and gays already boards and threads where the male shounen/seinen protags and characters literally fuck each other in the ass and suck dick. If anything you sound like you must have daddy issues or have unresolved issues with a man who's either wronged you or you just don't like. Don't just go around "men are bad and evil sexist perverted pigs" just because some of them decide to make or commission porn sailor moon characters or Mamao being in a gangbang and sucking multiple dicks. I'm sure you know women such as yourself and others here are just as degenerate pig headed perverts when you see ever you see Xavier or Sylus gagged and bound, half naked with their nipples out and erect.

In conclusion: Men-bad-women-good feminist bullshit is wrong and cringe.

And go anywhere else in the internet and you will stumble upon porn, R34 and fanfiction of male characters INCLUDING UNDERAGE BOY CHARACTERS having sexual relationships with other underage boy characters or even older men. Many of which are written and made by women, for women or occasionally some are made or commissioned by gay men. But you are delusional and or in denial if you don't think women are just as perverted and degenerate as the men, SEAsian hoyoverse anon and waifufags who love their Genshin-Nikke-GFL-wuwa waifus. Do not think any of you are any better or above them just because you play LADs and oggle at the boy's bare chests and vaugely covered crotches and believing you're consuming "romantic and mature storytelling."

Also so what if there are men and male Gooners sexualizing female characters shoujo and even otome heroines and the female characters in them? It's rule 34, seems like some of you are probably forgetting that important golden rule in the internet or you probably think it is somehow male centric and male exclusive. I might not like what some clearly and obvious male artists do to Sailor Moon, Apothecary Diaries, SpyxFamily, etc. but that is just the internet and rule 34 for you. Again, women do this too.

Holy melty

>>1786438
Moid nigger mad and seething at the plain simple fact men are sometimes just the worst and ruin things meant for women and girls with their gooning. Do not forget what men did to my little pony.

>BuH WomEN a Re alSO hOrNY!

What a load of bullshit, yes SEAnigger! Love and Deepspace is a hundred times better quality story than genshin "lore."

>adult women fantasizing about fictional men created to be fantasized over are the exact same as grown-ass men masturbating to fictional girls created to empower little girls
lol. lmao even

all because no one agreed with the men gb'd into women is an improvement shit kek

>>1785759
>Mahou shoujo primarily focuses on a cast of girls
Ehhh, not really? If your only exposure to the genre is a series that follows a magical girl group like Sailor Moon, Ojamajo Doremi, or Tokyo Mew Mew it may feel that way, but there's plenty of examples that feature a sole magical girl (and I'm pretty sure the genre began that way as well). Cardcaptor Sakura, Full Moon o Sagashite, Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne, Creamy Mami, and Pretear (which was brought up last thread) come to mind, and there's way more to list, but I think you get the idea.
I think the problem lies with uncreative writers who would have to actually spend time thinking up a unique premise and scenario rather than taking the easy route of copying and pasting what's done in magical girl group series (which are more prevalent now than when the genre first began).
Anyways, this is sort of off topic so I won't dwell on it any longer, but I do think it would be nice to have a thread solely dedicated to female-oriented media.

>>1786015
Man, I miss Ramuda. It's such a shame that the Hypmic story flopped so badly. I can't seem to find genuine short kings with top energy these days. Every time I ask for recommendations, I get average-height guys because Westerners think 170 cm is manlet height.

>>1786447
from the thumbnail I thought this was Ronin Warriors

>>1786442
take your meds you really need them

>>1786444
Okay then explain the phenomenon of shonen and of seinen boy characters from Naruto, MHA, HxH, and haikyuu (most of whom are underage teenage boys mind you) being sexualized and sexually paired with other underage school boy characters via yaoi and bl. Majority of which is done and made by women and female otaku? Let me be clear I am not exactly trying to play defense for the genshin hoyo fan in here. What I was having a "melty" over is THIS >>1785970
You all saying the hoyoverse shill is the bad man here for posting genshin yet alot of you casually or sometimes outright post and bring gender and grievance politics saying men are bad because they... Like waifus with ass and titties. If anything he's done who's staying on topic.

Besides, what does she mean "men are bad and are the worst because they make and draw porn of girl's show characters!" So what? It's called rule 34 everyone who has a pencil and sketchpad or an IPAD/Android tablet/drawing tablet with a stylus has made porn and smut of nearly every single piece of fiction. And that includes shoujo, otome and all the girls shows, spoiler alert: women artists can and have drawn "male gaze" porn of girl's show characters. Are they all of a sudden not real women because they drew smut you don't like?

And again, women and maybe the occasional gay man have already been sexualizing and making gay porn of shonen characters from boy's shows and media meant for dude bros and teenage boys since forever. But I suppose female gooning is good and male gaze moid stuff is bad, am I right?

Do not think any of you are any better or above waifu fags and loli funny lovers when most of you already finger yourselves when playing LADs or going to yaoi bl lewds of anime volleyball player boys.

If anything this gooning should unite both of you into equal understanding. But oh well, I guess men are bad and evil because they so happen to like attractive beautiful women.

Holy melty x2

>>1786477
>But I suppose female gooning is good and male gaze moid stuff is bad, am I right?
Yeah duh

>>1786370
Yeah, I didn’t play SW5 since I heard things about it that turned me off of it, but I do like a lot of the new characters/designs. As for Abyss, I didn’t even notice it existed lol. Hopefully Koei’s able to find a good formula one day and stick with it, or at least be more consistent, but I have a feeling this is always going to be a series that’s all over the place for better or worse.

>>1786477
>But oh well, I guess men are bad and evil because they so happen to like attractive beautiful women.
Now you get it.

>>1786477
>But oh well, I guess men are bad and evil because they so happen to like attractive beautiful women
Yes! Men like YOU are bad! Your so called attraction to attractive women is actually pedophilia and y'all wanting to actually rape women! Your shitty moid games is nothing but sex mindless flapping and have non existent stories. OUR "gooner" games HAVE an actual story and plot and yes our "gooning" is good and ethical because its actually about love, whereas you assholes just want rape women and fuck little girls.

>If anything he's done who's staying on topic.
Hoyofag exposes himself once again.

slow news day I guess

As a frequent consumer of otome isekaislop manhwa (don't like reading manga on my small phone), it really is all fucking slop no different from shounen isekai. The best otome isekai aren't isekai at all, they're regression, and even those are only slightly above average at best.
More on topic, I've never played any non-gacha otome or even any VNs but have been wanting to dip my toes in. Is Hakuoki a good place to start?

What is even going on ITT

>>1786566
Never played it myself but it has like 500 ports and a few games so it was probably popular at some point. Should be fine. It's Otomate so I'd bet it has a "safe but not really bad" impression.
Incidentally there was a Bakarina game if you've seen that. I never watched it so I wasn't huge into it but the pirate guys were kind of cool.

>>1786566
Hakuoki is a behemoth of a vn, but if the setting seems up your alley, then give it a try.
If you like regressions, Even if Tempest is not a bad one to start with, it's on a slightly shorter side of popular otome.
You can just sort vndb otome game tag by most popular and click around on the ones you like to check if the summary interests you at all: https://vndb.org/g542?m=0&l=&f=&s=24y

Granblue raising the standards for horny guy designs, wish they made him bigger in the art though

>>1785880
>how come 99% of all genderswap stuff is male to female?
Straight males benefit the most. They want to see cute girls and they think cute guys is making them gay. Most of the "feminists" in fandom who only care about fictional characters defend their interests, and they think it's "adding representation" .
>>1785970
Madoka and Nanoha are the biggest yuri magical girl shows now. You can't forget most yuri circles now are run by troons so their interest in male targeted shows is now considered to be "feminist".

>>1786842
i miss my boy jamil...

>>1786855
Jamil died when he got that shitty unit back in 2022 it was nice to see him in the event earlier this year, even if he didn't do much

>>1786566
Play Taisho Alice which is also vaguely European-themed

>>1786692
>>1786731
>>1786878
Thanks, I'll take a look at those.

https://xcancel.com/syluscard/status/1944468191205298411
>if it comes to it, we will organize a boycott of their next big multi banner. no spending money for if, no talking about it on socials. we know from other instances in the fandom that boycotts are the only thing infold responds to
kek, global players think they have any power because the chinks were successful. shit like this is exactly why they kept en vas anonymous. I only use cn voices anyway

>>1786842
I don't even play GBF but their art is so consistently good and creative even after years...

>>1786850
tsundere sun lord time at last

>the only country that would make a non otome joseimuke is Japan
>Nip boomer execs can't make an innovative game to save their lives and would rather die than actually expend effort on a live service joseimuke
>Nip female players accept shitty games and shitty treatment as long as they have merch of the same poses and some lives

bleak

>>1786897
>sylus in handle
Of course it's a shitten with these takes

>>1786848
>Nanoha
I don't think it's as popular as you think it is,but then again the only other remotely popular IP I can compare it to is Symphogear so maybe "gay magical girl shows" is too niche a label.

>>1786566
Otome isekaislop is so wildly uncreative because the setting and scenario is the same shit over and over again with a "twist" that doesn't matter in the long run. Also I'm so fucking sick of unironic "self-aware" humor in every single otome isekaislop written by hacks that don't even play the games.
I'll recommend a personal favorite otome of mine if you're interested in a modern setting and crime drama, try out "Bustafellows". The MC is voiced, the boys are good, and the individual routes are pretty nice depending on what's your type. Just a warning though the mainstory is kinda ass to the point where it's almost hilarious so I recommend only doing it after you've done all the routes for each boy.

>>1786850
MY CUTE KING

>>1786947
The one time nips tried to make a big budget gacha and it's Tribe9 which giga flopped due to incompetent management, no marketing, and really shitty character design.
Nips could've easily have found a better artist that didn't make ugly ass designs but instead they were going to release picrel as a limited SSR then the game EOS'd before it happened.
A high effort joseimuke from nipland is never happening when they can't even make an omnislop one work. Nip companies are likely spooked now after seeing a big project liked this bomb.

>>1787017
>female characters are always young and beautiful
>male characters can be trash like the thing in that pic, old farts, furries and fatsos
I don't know if they do it out of spite for female players or if they genuinely think we're willing to eat shit.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's actually the latter since I can imagine a lot of them being hideous incels still hoping to get laid irl.

>>1787063
>Wouldn't be surprised if it's actually the latter since I can imagine a lot of them being hideous incels still hoping to get laid irl.
No, they are just stupid boomer salarymen who only care about things that they would personally consider funny or cool.
Not everything related to devs being incels, simply retarded suits.

>>1787017
>>1787063
can you believe theres actual retards in the drama thread believing the game flopped because it "pandered too much to females" because it had more than 2 playable male characters despite all of them being uggos that no actual sister would spend money on, fucking moids really love blaming us for every big gacha game not being their own personal dating sim

>>1786842
The uncap is meh desu

>>1787175
yikes, who thought this would be an improvement over the base art? Thank god you can just use whichever art/skin you like instead

>>1786566
I've only played 1 otome that had an isekai element, though it was one of the LIs rather than MC

>>1787169
>all of them being uggos
Meanwhile, hoyo goes full steam ahead on having actually attractive males and then doing something with them. Wouldn't be surprised if there were complaints about fujopandering in the Fate collab.

>>1787063
>they do it out of spite
considering the many many misogynistic vitriol-filled comment sections i've read over many years on threads here, youtube videos, twitter posts, the occasional steam post, etc. i think it's this one. devs of games like fgo make the conscious choice to not allow stuff like male summer units despite their understanding of how certain characters (eg. Oberon) are massively popular and would outsell multiple female characters combined. they'd be drowning in money if they'd made summer oberon or gilgamesh, but they willingly don't for years on end because they're against male fanservice that much. douman's artist outright made all the art assets for a full unit with 3 separate outfits and not just one lame costume, but they still wouldn't do it.
even outside of that, you can't underestimate just how many men genuinely hate women for reasons fed to them through internet culture war shit, and that's on top of the historical views on women ingrained in cultures all over. if you were here last thread, one anon was sharing the hell that chinese women have to go through on a regular basis since so many men are just that awful. shit is so fucking bleak.

>>1787169
disappointing but unsurprising as always. men love blaming women for their own faults, and if you try to even hint that they should take accountability they will become extremely defensive

>>1787169
>believing the game flopped because it "pandered too much to females"
Holy kek that's some moid tier mental gymnastics. Men blaming women for things failing isn't anything new, but did they seriously think that shitty game was trying to appeal to a female audience?
Nips would've been better off making a high budget joseimuke with an artist that doesn't make men look ugly as hell if they wanted to attract women to a game.

I know being a valley girl is his thing, but Paimon looks way better without the makeup.

Summer whore

>>1787463
I can't fathom the idea of saying no to easy money, but moids ain't the smartest crayons in the box. While they keep behaving like perpetual 12yo who blame women for not being good subservient housewives anymore, smarter devs are taking advantage of the huge chunk of starved female players who have plenty of money to spend and almost no games worth spending it on.

>>1787622
i wonder which company will be smart enough to capitalize on the empty space in the market for openworld gacha for women especially now that Nikki shit itself, it'd have to be at least decent quality to catch anyone's attention though

>>1787626
Nikki has some cute shotas, they could easily gain people's good will back if they let you assign Youyou and Marques Jr as maids that you can dress up when Nikki gets her house.
I'm more inclined to buy cute and sexy clothes for my pretty malewives rather than for my self-insert.

>>1786850
>>1787620
The third person better not be fucking Garu.

>>1787626
I'm so disappointed in how IN shit the bed when they started off so strong but moid CEOs just cant help themselves ig

>>1786850
>>1787620
praying for best boy garu

>>1787666
it's awful how bad they fumbled Nikki despite it's great reception and the fanbase absolutely loved the game, my friend was really disappointed with all the shit that happened since she actually spent money on the game and played it since launch.
this is why we can't have nice things for women when moids are comfortable with thinking they can walk all over us because they think we won't leave.

>>1784851
The fugliest designs I've seen in a long time. Fuck webtoon fujos and their shit taste.

>>1786566
Late but I want to rec even if tempest (including fandisk) and jack jeanne

>>1787620
kuya is definitely next but someone pointed out that the initial promo had umbrellas with the corresponding colors for dante, rei and kuya but there was also a blue one that some are guessing is either eiden or edmond and i really hope its not the latter cuz i cannot afford a 4p banner this month

>>1787017
This shouldn't have been a gacha. I don't know what the fuck they were thinking making this guy an actual character people had to roll for? Why is the Danganronpa team so obsessed with this type of muppet joke character?

>>1787169
They really think women are the ones who want to roll for a midget? When it's moids who keep making these characters to self insert on?

>Bustafellows
>Jack Jeanne
Why are we recommending the worst otome games in history, they barely qualify as one.
If you want actual romance play Trigger Kiss, Ken ga Kimi, heck even Virches Yves route works since that's one of the better written romances in that game. Cupid Paradise and Cafe Enchante aren't bad either but Bustafellows counts more as a regular VN than otome game, same with Jack Jeanne.
If you want an indie otome game that looks promising and has quality writing, try Mirage Noir, the full game will release next year. Another really well made otome game by a solo dev is called The Silent Kingdom, the first chapter is out, it has RPG elements, turn based combat etc.

>>1787745
Anon was asking for VNs so I recommended the otome that is more like just a regular VN with otome elements. It's easy and straightforward to get through and Bustafellows is at least an 7 in my book because Crow exist in it.

>>1787745
Everything you mentioned except Ken ga Kimi is fucking trash

>>1787745
>instead recommends western crap that will never be finished
Retard

>>1787626
First we need devs to stop churning out buggy UE5 tech demos
What gets me is that even without the open world meme there are still plenty of niches to fill in the mid-budget area...if there were devs that actually knew how to make games

>>1787818
problem is though most chink companies use UE for their games despite how shit it runs on phones, my only hope is that if an eventual husbando openworld game does happen it'll have a PC version.

>>1787811
Only retard here is you, might as well play no games if you think every single western indie entry is compareable to the usual slop released like the gazillions of dating sims.
That's why joseimuke is doomed, schizos believe anything made in Japan is gold when they haven't produced anything worthwhile since Birushana Senki (not FD)

>>1787825
Won't come to global anyway if it's made in Japan

>>1787678
>Fuck webtoon fujos and their shit taste.
seconded. i can count on (less than) one hand the number of webtoons i've seen that didn't have piss-quality art. all of them look so fucking badly done and it's a wonder to me that people actually like this obviously rushed slop

>>1787818
exactly, its been fucking hilarious to see the new big budget open world gachas lose to the fucking horse girl game of all things. Not every 3d moba needs to be genshin you can still make a fun game that people will actually play and spend time and money on if you actually try

>>1787834
honestly they're not all terrible, i find some of them passable and even kind of cute. The problem lies in that the devs are clearly counting on you having prior familiarity with the webtoon the characters come from and the fact that the gameplay looks boring as shit plus i only have time and money to grind one BL game for porn scenes and im not adding another

>>1787836
when i said "all of them look so fucking badly done" i meant webtoons in general. these guys just look mediocre, i wouldn't even call any of them cute. frankly i hate the webtoon artstyle and fujo webtoon fans so much i'm hoping this game does badly

>>1787833
high budget joseimuke is unlikely from nippon at this point, they can't even make competent high budget omnislop.
chinks are unfortunately our only hope now since they know there is a market there.

>>1787745
>Virche
>Cupid Parasite
>aren't bad either
CP was so bad I uninstalled it without even completing my first route, it sucked soooooo much I got genuinely upset. I cannot believe anyone who says it was good in any way, even in it's-so-bad-it's-good kind of way, is being serious.

>>1787745
>look up Mirage Noir
>two n-n-n--- (just came back from my vacation, gotta hold back)
Yep, I don't think I'll ever touch western shit.

>>1787834
Korean webtoons' popularity is something I'll never understand because there's little to no quality control in the art, the amount of badly rendered 3D free assets is so abundant it's hilarious, and the writing quality is just as inconsistent...Am I missing something? How did this get popular?

>>1787745
The only good recommendation in your list is Ken ga Kimi but I didn't recommend it either because I wouldn't say it's a good starter for a new otome player like the OP was.

>>1787745
Probably because Bustafellows and Jack Jeanne are both good even if lighter on romance.
The former is quite fun and I enjoy the dynamics between all the characters, it feels believable that the MC would actually be within their friend group. Mozu was one of my favorite otome LIs as well, he's well aware he's autistic but is very mature and level headed while maintaining his moe and own brand of humor. The autism works in his favor too because he's never paralyzed by social graces or dramatics when everyone else is, real no bullshit kind of guy.
The latter has very understated writing, the stakes are low and it takes its time, but the set up for all the routes feels earned and well put together, and I really enjoyed all the artistic things about it. The CGs are phenomenal, I was impressed they actually full on showed the plays complete with animated rhythm game sections, and the music is really good. I still regularly listened to the play songs a year later.
In comparison Virche made me want to blow my fucking brains out with how god damn boring it was. They needed to revise that shit to remove at least half of the plot points and make the MC less frustrating. Like I get it you want to kill yourself I don't need to hear it 24/7. I played the entire thing because Ankou seemed okay. I did not like Ankou by the time I finished his route. One of the few otome I would actively advise against playing
Cupid Parasite and Cafe Enchante are also mediocre. I guess the former is nice in that it's lighter in tone but I didn't find it that funny or charming in total. Doesn't help that the guy I initially liked (glasses dude) has a god awful route, it was like 80% flashbacks and then they went "well uhhh we have to force drama somehow" so they induced one of the worst misunderstandings I've ever seen and the misunderstanding trope is already terrible.

>>1787831
>hates nip slop
>recommends unfinished kickstarter scam western slop instead
at least the nip slop is finished sis

>>1787846
apparently younger fujos these days have only ever read webtoon BL and don't even know about the manga classics, its so fucking grim

>>1787846
Easy to read on a smartphone which kids are addicted to + professionally translated + easily pirated. Besides those shallow reasons they also tend to have plots besides just romance and don't last just 2-5 chapters like a lot nip BLs tend to unless mega popular. So while I agree a lot of them are shit I can see why they are appealing. I read a few on the side here and there, to find the ok/good ones you have to wade through shit.

>>1787384
Is there a reason why Lancer isnt wearing his sexy blue suit?

>>1787745
I rec'd JJ because it has a great story, characters and music, its also very high effort and not from otomate which is pretty rare nowadays. If that anon wants pure romance specifically then yeah its a bad rec but honestly the LIs are so loveable as individual characters and as a class that I didnt care, some of the plays (and the lead-up to them) are actually fantastic to experience. Kisa was also an enjoyable MC to play as, I didnt self insert as her but she made me want to root for her growth throughout the story. Playing through the slop that is Virche just to enjoy Yves and Ankou is something I wouldnt want anyone in this thread to go through.

>>1787872
>don't last just 2-5 chapters like a lot nip BLs tend to unless mega popula
you're unfortunately right about this, really fucking sucks how webtoons become so popular just gave way to mass produced slop that's meant to be going for as long as it pays with no professional editors to quality check. Honestly the only thing keeping jp BL relevant these days are their VNs and they can't even do that right with the amount of time it takes to translate just one

>>1787850
speaking of, the fact that we've outright regressed back to these horrible triangle chins after all this time because of retarded webtoon fujos is a fucking travesty. the blonde guy in >>1784851 looks particularly bad with it

>>1787911
japs moved on from atrocious anatomy only for gooks to pull us right back into that hell

>>1787908
Best Kisa role hands down

>>1787958
I dont think they’ll be able to top this play in the sequel, it’ll take a lot. Though I wont mind as long as they give us a Chui and maybe the onii-chan route

tfw the r18 otome industry died a decade ago...

>>1788001
Its thriving but only in the form of drama CDs

>>1787684
Even if tempest is nice, not perfect but I still love it

>>1787745
This but CollarXMalice though at least it's an otome

>>1787666
>>1787677
Nikki getting fucked over makes me worried for the future of LaDS.

>>1788118
I would hope papergames doesn't try to fuck up their number one (and now only one) moneymaker

>>1788118
They would have to do something extremely disastrous to fuck up LaDS at this point, like have NTR or something.

>>1787835
Horse girl game is doing well because it's a meme game first and a cygames game second. It's global popularity will last as long as horse race test the longer people are exposed to the gacha rates

>>1788118
Nikki is managed by the guy boss while LaDS is managed by the wife who has a much better track record, I think it'll be fine.

>Otome

I recently bought Steam Prison and my favorite boy has to be Ulric, the green haired 18 yr old young man if you know.

Haven't gotten to playing the second game that recently came out. And I am really trying my damn hardest in finding that holy sacred shota's route.

All this arguing over waifus, otome and Bakarina and none of you ever mentioned ZZZ has THIS beefcake!?

https://x.com/chillenceo/status/1945355170382004373

>>1788118
LADS is probably part of the reason why IN is messed up tbdesu. They run IN like they expect it to make LADS money any minute now, ignoring the bugs they introduce every patch and how their core audience of mobile/low-end players are the ones having the most trouble

>>1788118
i don't think Infold is retarded enough to mess up the one thing keeping their company afloat, it felt more like they were treating IN like a testing ground to see how much they could get away with.
they have an iron grip on the female market in chinkland so it's possible they'll capitalize on the openworld niche with husbandos eventually. unless another company steps up we'll be stuck with Infold until then.

>>1788205
Him and Lycaon are the two good non-tot boy things hoyo has, though we'll see how long he lasts

>https://x.com/sosienatori/status/1945418378996326902
>"Draw all the shota characters in Genshin Second one, Tighnari-kun"

Tighnari is not a shota, he's a young adult male...

>Slop Flop Zeroyen
>obligatory male that'll release with like 10 other girls to bait retards into thinking waifuslop cares about them
Thank god that shitty waifuslop game is flopping. The fact that it had to relaunch because it was making no money due to coombrain waifufags being poor is hilarious kek

>>1788296
>>obligatory male that'll release with like 10 other girls to bait retards into thinking waifuslop cares about them
bold of you to assume he'll get released

>>1788299
I expect nothing from waifuslopzero because they have like what? 9 dudes compared to their 20 waifushits?
Any husbandofag stupid enough to still be playing that game deserves to get shit on my Hoyo for being gullible losers that settles for crumbs.

>>1788205
He's ugly, he looks more danseimuke than joseimuke to me.

>>1788386
Because that's what he is. You can always count on retarded faggots to come here with zero idea what joseimuke means.
That gooktrash art OP is also probably at fault for attracting them.

>>1787901
It's so Lancer looks like he's going to be playable in the future.

>>1788390
Lancer is going to stay an NPC for now. According to leaks, there won't be another male PC until 3.8 at the end of the year. That's plenty of time to save on pulls.

>>1787692
I was expecting Olivine since he is the current oldest one without a new version

>>1788421
the prediction is danreikuya trio because they're the only clan members left that haven't had a song together in a triple banner yet

>>1787175
would you trade the uncap art for the official twitter art or no

>>1788389
It's probably just the Hoyoschizo because he's the attention seeking seanig that keeps posting omnislop that's basically waifushit or Hoyotrash here.
You can tell it's him because he only post about shit moids infest like Hoyoslop or wuwa. He's also the retard that posted that off-topic isekaislop that only pickmes and moids like.

>>1788481
sexxxxx yes yes yes

I was listening to some Utapri music and now I'm reminded of the trainwreak that was Shining live.
I remember when the en severs got cut, is it still live in jp?

>>1788508
It was about menless zone zero, not even probably but definitely him

>>1788481
lick tits

>>1788520
Shining Live was shut down in Japan and remade as Live Emotion. Now you get 3D models lel
https://youtu.be/dSqW3ExmS-Q

>>1788389
>come here with zero idea what joseimuke means.
At this point I don't think any of you faggots know what it means.

>>1788715
Joseimuke means game with sexy anime boy that I (As in ME, the person writing this post) like

crave saga has cute anime boys i like therefore its joseimuke

>>1788715
joseimuke are games aimed at women, which means waifuflops like zzzerorevenue don't belong here and only retards like Hoyoschizo post about it

>>1788715
barashit isn't joseimuke, dumbass.

>>1788834
>any male that isn't an anorexic twnik or a child is barashit

First the hoyoshill force feeding his omnishit kusoge, then the incels from the drama thread trying to stir shit with fujos and now actual faggots shitting up this thread? Do men not have anything to do with their miserable lives that they have to keep bothering us?

Funny thing is muscular men are my favorite but there's a fine line between "muscular but still attractive to women" and barashit and moids can't discern it.

>>1788896
The moids from the drama thread are bored since they don't have anything to doompost and nothing to revenuefag over meanwhile actual homos get chased out of the omnislop generals by waifufags and they don't have enough games to warrant their own containment thread so they come /here/. I wouldn't mind them as long as they don't try to post about barashit.

>>1788932
Same. I like buff boys too but moids don't know the difference between muscles that appeal to women vs barashit made by/for homos.

>>1788896
Yep, pretty much. It's loser neets who are relying on their parents to feed them, they have plenty of time to waste.

>>1788896
gook OP art thumbnail made them think this is the barashit thread, they refuse to not seethe after realizing it's not real barashit and decide to take it out here

>>1788896
I'm so glad LADS banned gay and male MC crap. Anyone who is raised with male entitlement think it's their duty to deny women aka the "undeserving" of anything nice and this is proof of it.

Actually, all ZZZslop males are fugly, full stop. Even their yumebait Harumasa and so-called "hottest male in the game" vampire is ugly for joseimuke standards. All the males are passable as self-insert moid isekaislop MCs. I can't say the same for most Genshin males despite it being yet another Hoyo incelshit.

>>1789018
So we've gone from "WHB is BL" to "WHB looks like barashit". You bitches are just going full retard today.

>>1789037
NTA but those two big dudes do look like barashit...

>>1789038
>any dude that isn't a twink is barashit now
Jesus fucking Christ. Men in bara games are usually chubbier with facial and body hair. They don't have feminine faces either.

>>1789040
Not a single character from WHB looks like a twink with that W I I I D E build they have and the muscles from those two in the OP are especially exaggerate. You can call them how you want, but I'm going to call them disgusting musclepigs.

>>1789041
>Not a single character from WHB looks like a twink
Yep, this is definitely a "musclepig"

>>1789047
To be fair, Paimon is a fucking gorilla. I would have used someone like Eligos or Phenomenon as an example, not the dude who carries a 10kg phone like nothing and could cave a man's skull in with a single punch

>>1789047
Alright, I'll give you this one.

>>1789050
>>1789050
>and could cave a man's skull in with a single punch
They're demons. I'm pretty sure all of them could cave in a man's skull.

>>1789053
I dunno. Leraye is kind of a wuss. He gets out of breath just by running

>>1782297
There needs to be more doujins about Hotarumaru my beloved boy

>>1789047
That's just a woman.
>>1789053
Now that's something

One of the sad points of WHB is that almost all of the main characters are not nearly as interesting or well designed as the side characters

>>1789037
NTA either but the top left art looked like one of those clean-shaven bara... I had to do a double take when I first clicked on this thread...

>>1789040
I clicked on the bara game thread out of curiosity. Good lord, they're fucking hideous. Actually look like they have some sort of bloating disease

summer sun lord

>>1789125
It's like balloon tits on anime girls but for anime males. Sexuality doesn't fix hideous taste.

People might stop Hoyoslurping if any big budget gacha game started making husbandos again and pretended to have "lore", since the biggest reason I see people give for not quitting is that they care about the lore and worldbuilding and want to find out what happens. Which is why we need Japan to make a good game with husbandos (never) or at least go back to make jrpgs with cute guys again and not only Western ugly moids.

>>1789179
Do regular players really care about lore and worldbuilding that much? I've always thought that it's just the permanently online autists who do.

>>1789141
Another Dante to add to my collection.

>>1789141
he's so cute when he smiles

>>1789197
Probably extreme casuals don't but in that case they just go and play Wuwa. Genshin has gotten people hooked for years with the lore. There's early characters who haven't even gotten an arc yet and those are the people who won't leave despite Genshin's change of direction. I feel sorry for them.

>>1789179
>Which is why we need Japan to make a good game with husbandos (never) or at least go back to make jrpgs with cute guys again and not only Western ugly moids.
If Squeenix didn't go the ugly realistic route they could have grabbed their share of the money that's going to Hoyoshit, really mindboggling.
They even had achieved a somewhat realistic style that was still pleasing to the eye like LADS but they really had to fuck it up by going full 3DPD.

>>1789197
I'll admit that I'm interested to see where HSR's story is going. See if it's going to bring some of the game's cute guys back or at least keep some of them relevant.

Anyone playing Alto Re:code?

>>1789499
Didn't even know it was out, but it's not available here and qoo says it doesn't work through apk

Imagine Opal being the 4U boy if in case you play as Stelle

>>1789024
You do realize your pic related is an old outdated version whereas Harumasa's final release version actually looks cute and or boyishly handsome. At least use the actual model or arts if you're gonna disparage Hoyoverse husbandos like that. And I get it, you probably don't like ZZZ for turning people into casual furries or help normalize and popularize incest. But at least use the actual official art or models of you're disparaging someone like Harumasa like that.

>>1789499
Looks cute, but do I self-insert as the sensei and groom the shotas or do I self-insert as the blue AI and rape the sensei? I can't decide...

>>1789070
>almost all of the main characters are not nearly as interesting or well designed as the side characters
i will forever be mad that the hottest gehenna boy is the only one that is most consistently left out of that group. like come the fuck on man's a goth with long hair, a snake motif, a talent for dirty talk, and a corruption kink. how did thunder fetish boy or hentai-bangs bowlcut man get a sex scene over that

>>1789499
Some recent Japanese games are opting to block downloads from 3rd-party sites like qooapp...their loss. At least Tasokare Hotel -tsubomi- worked for me though.

Holy sexo

>>1789686
This slut gets all the best outfits
>painted toenails
Either feet licking or feet massage, let's go!

>>1789549
>or help normalize and popularize incest.
Please go back to your tumblr and stay there, but like forever.

>>1789686
HOT WHORE SUMMER

>>1789711
That was the Hoyoshill, he has to make conversations with himself since nobody gives any fucks.

>>1789499
I wanted to, but I don't actually how to get the game

>>1789646
>the hottest gehenna boy
that's not Sitri or Zagan.

>Xav myth announcement within 24 hours
I don't mind that the multi-banners are long, but I do wish they had a bit more

>>1789549
That's just a half-decent danseimuke self-insert MC. I can't believe people would yume that.

Can't wait to see him fuck Eiden on this outfit

>>1790155
SEXXOOOOOOO

>>1790155
>long hair
hell fucking yeah

A bunch of shit got leaked for Arknights summer event, but the most important part is that SilverAsh Alter might be coming after that one.

>>1790280
Fuck yesssss please be true, especially at half anni so i can spark arturia while i'm at it. I was really worried it'd be a Pram alter instead

>>1790152
It's the Hoyoschizo trying to shill waifushit zerorevenue again. He's a retarded seanig that thinks that gross waifuslop game would ever have a female fanbase outside of mindbroken Hoyo pickmes that are fine with 8 dudes out of the 20+ waifushits.
That game is basically just short of EOS with how it had to relaunch because it was making no money pandering to poorfag waifukeks. It's only alive because Hoyo is funneling revenue from it's other games to keep it afloat.

>>1790155
I hate this fox but I'll admit this design is sexo probably even his sexiest design yet.

Today, Basara turns 20 years old. To celebrate what is usually considered a massive milestone for video games, Capcom has done... A cafe collab. That's what you get. That's probably all you get. The last mainline game was was 11 years ago, hell the last game at all was 9- other than the mobile game which didn't last 2 years.

Your favourite games will never truly die, Anon. They'll just become zombies being used to hawk merch and cafe collabs.

>>1790425
I will forever seethe

>>1790425
considering how capcom has been treating their bigger games lately i would rather they not touch any beloved forgotten game of theirs again

>>1790425
>They'll just become zombies being used to hawk merch and cafe collabs.
and pachinko.....

I finally got around to reading Sylus's card, what the fuck is this shirt

>>1790155
I like all 3 outfits for the event, this game needs more outfits like these

>>1790518
His best one, bad dragons belong in chains

>>1790518
Just one of his several whore shirts.

Just had a dream. I don't usually go for twinks but, this dream just made me want a dark skinned submissive femboy bf to sexually bully.

>>1790066
>no reveal
well...

>>1790812
I swear every time I let you people let me get excited "oh the new banner reveal is today" you guys are WRONG

>>1790819
I was going off the Raf myth banner, which was revealed 2 days before the ongoing banner ended (Caleb's bday banner ended june 15 and the Raf banner was revealed june 13). Most of the previous myth banners were revealed even earlier:
>Raf's rerun ended march 27 -> caleb myth revealed march 23 (4 days before it ended)
>Cat banner ended Nov. 30 -> Sylus myth revealed Nov. 27 (3 days before it ended)

>>1790152
Hoyo has high production value, there's no contest about that, but that's about all they have to offer for female players. Lots of women have low self-worth anyway, have you seen how many of them became pickmes who are happy to slurp up ugly incel wifebeaters who doesn't even wipe their asses? The women haters at Hoyo like limengan could feed them shit and they'd still thank Hoyo for it.

>>1790425
What's with Japanese devs and creating the bestest boys but letting them rot? Do they not have a single young otaku at the decision-making roles?

>>1790155
He looks like a big bottom here

>>1790861
HSR has been steadily ramping up its yume pandering since Penacony. I don't know any guy who'd want to self-insert as Boothill. And I know plenty of guys who actively hate Sunday. And Argenti is a shojo manga parody.
Boothill seems to be shoehorned into almost every event since they've been introduced just for pandering purposes. Usually with Argenti to pander to fujos.

>>1790963
I think there's still a clear difference between the way they treat male and female players. Guys get great meta, lots of videos and their waifus are even separated as yumebait or yuribait so they don't have to deal with schizo NTR wars... Whereas we get fewer husbandos and have to settle for omnislop and practically zero Myriad Celestias...

Granted, it's better than complete waifufests but I hope that one day, we can get better than just scraps...

>>1790963
>ramping up its yume pandering
>mentions Boothill and Argenti which are just there to fujobait
There is nothing for yumes in that game.

>>1790963
Yume pandering? There's only 3 omnipandering boys in the entire game who aren't pure fujobait and it's pointless anyway, fujos will beat down anyone who says Hoyo isn't LGT (no B) rep so forget about any fanworks, yume artists will be harassed until they quit.

Hoyo faggots have insanely low standards. Eat better.

>>1791050
>yume artists will be harassed until they quit
thank god

>>1790963
>yumepandering
>in homorail
Get a load of this guy.
Yumes don't give a shit about HSR because majority of all the male pandering is fujobait and whatever "yume" bait they do put out is half-assed slop like those POV shorts where they don't even have the balls to show Stelle because they know it'll make schizo fujos angry.
Yumes have all but abandoned Hoyoslop for LADs or actual otome games because they already know Hoyo isn't going to give them anything of substance. The yume fanbase in any Hoyoslop isn't even the 1% of the female fanbase that's already smaller then waifufags.

>>1790518
that's a collar to dick ring

>>1791050
>yume artists
not just yume artists but BG fanartists too. a few of my fav genshin artists deleted their acc and disappeared because of it.

>>1791050
That's likely just the Hoyoschizo posting fake shit about HSR having more yumepandering because he's keeps pretending the majority of female players and content aimed at them aren't geared towards fujos. He's even tried to pretend Ensharts "my fem mc basically doesn't exist anymore" as a yumebait game.
Anyone with whose played Hoyoslop knows they're shit at yumepandering. They can't even competently run their own otome game with ToT being the most neglected game in their company. No one plays Hoyoslop looking for yumebait.

>>1791195
It is the hoyoschizo and the reason why he only focuses on yumepandering is because he keeps thinking he'll get a girlfriend here. He's also probably behind all anti fujo posts here too.

Yumes, fujos and general shippers bullying each other is so dumb to me. I block people who post my landmines and move on.

>>1791195
>>1791249
It's one of the third worlders Hoyoshit pays a pittance to shill their trash games.
Since people stopped giving a fuck he's resorted to replying to himself with controversial topics he hopes will get people to talk about Hoyotrash.

>>1789549
Honestly looks more generic and worse than before.

You thought angel Xavier? Wrong, Elden ring Xavier

>>1791617
>Elden Ring
I was thinking more King Arthur.
Now I'm really curious what Zaynes theme will be. he already got long hair.

>>1791344
The sheer difference in effort they gave to their sole joseimuke game compared to the danseimuke yuri flop is enough indication of how little they care about their female players. A waste because I like their character designs for Genshin and HSR but god the TOT designs and stories are so bland. It's annoying how they have the resources to invest in joseimuke games like Infold does but they just refuses to do so.

>>1791277
I've blocked all of the yumes but there's far too many hoyo fujos to block. The worst part is they're closer to Kpop stans with their insane stalker behaviour than to traditional fujos. I had to priv my account in the end because they stalk keywords they dislike to spam.

>>1791617
Better quality pic

>>1791627
This is just final fantasy

>>1791627
>>1791631
This is how Final Fantasy should have been instead of the 3DPD direction they went with.

>>1791627
It's been 9 years, welcome back Noctis

>>1791643
If Noctis counts as 3DPD then so does Noctis Blanco there
Though the fact that LaDS is realistic is one of my main turn offs so that may not be wrong

>>1791627
>>1791655
Shit makes me miss the days of XV and before...

>>1781336 (OP)
https://x.com/GenshinImpact/status/1947508165408387133

Good news! Varka is a young blonde man and NOT an "actual adult male" some people have been whining about.

>>1791625
>The worst part is they're closer to Kpop stans
LADS yumes are like that too. Why are KPop faggots everywhere now?

>>1791681
The Light keeper

>>1791711
Boy Durin!

Sorry to the Playable Dvalin wanters.

Genshin yume classics Albedo (voiced this time) and Scara cameo.

https://youtu.be/QWDyxSo-oq0?si=3mpGsxlo1WPjwqfj

I'm not going back to your garbage hoyofag

>>1791657
You don't like 3DPD?

>>1791711
This is just discount Idia

>>1791627
Eh not sure how I feel about it. Fish was better

>>1791782
The most hideous FF main character.

>>1791627
Hot as hell, very happy with the theme. Reminded me a lot of the Ringed City from Dark Souls 3, MC being in slumber for so long screams Filianore to me. Beautiful looking myth.
Lumiere in terms of story was disappointing but I have a feeling they'll do him justice this time.
R3ing my beautiful alien King

>>1791655
god i miss FFXV...fun boys for the main cast and some of the best chemistry i've ever seen without sacrificing the dumb anime stuff that i love. i hate that Square is just making the current FF games that aren't the FF7 remake with ugly ass "realistic" muted colors and cut back on over the top designs, it's so boring to look at.

>>1791681
>faggots on reddit are crying cuz he's not an ugly old fart with a beard
hilarious
he's hot but its g**shit so no thank you

>>1791681
>>1791711
>>1791713
fugly designs as usual, nothing lost dodging this game

>>1791782
This guy looks like the default character you get in FF14.

>>1791876
I hate the realistic skin textures with flaws and pores they've been using for a while. It ruins even characters like Cloud.
I want the beautiful doll look with perfect skin everyone had in FF7AC.

>>1791853
tbf twink death is inevitable

>>1791711
They just poured water on Idia's hair and called it a day

>>1791900
Beautiful women will become hags too.
That's why we go for fiction where we can have the good stuff we can't have in reality.

>>1791625
>god the TOT designs and stories are so bland

>>1791657
>the fact that LaDS is realistic is one of my main turn offs

these two factors have basically ensured that i've never been able to get into a single decently popular mobile otome despite being a yume. lads, tot, mr love queen's choice, etc. they play it so fucking safe with all the boys' designs and personalities that they bore me to death.
i actually strongly prefer more out there designs like you'd see in fgo and hsr but those games give nothing but crumbs and low-effort fujobait respectively. the closest i've been able to manage to my actual taste is twst and ikevil but the former lends itself much more to yaoi and the latter has practically no presence. i don't have the time to play any console otomes without taking so long i'd forget what was going on. life is suffering

>>1791910
>Hans
Based taste and same. I prefer the boys in fgo just because every guy is so unique and some of them are exactly my type in terms of design and personality.
Shame that fgo doesn't go that hard when it comes to for (you)bait with it's boys with most of the Valentine events with them being either friendship stuff or some mid bait. I'd still take fgo's boys over hsr's because at least in fgo the boys actually like the mc and want to hangout.

>>1791853
Shave the pube beard and its in improvement

>>1791627
damn yumefags would call anything good looking

>>1790280
I hope Enciodes finally betrays us, I'm tired of this "trusted friend" gimmick. Also I hope it leans more into his weak/sickly/not actually a warrior nature, I really like his base e2 art even though I know a lot of people don't.

looks like we might get another rhythm mini game with this event

>>1790280
I'm so fucking tired of those stupid alts. Give me Demetri and Milton

>>1792109
I'll play whatever if the backgrounds are gonna be delicious meat

anyone know if Tencent is actually making an otome based on Honor of Kings?

>>1791904
Unlike old moids, hags are sexy

>>1792232
You sure about that? The 4chan idea of hag and the actual definition of hag are vastly different...

>>1792109
dante's armpit...

>>1792249
Pretty sure they mean the irl equivalent of a milf, not like your pic.

>>1792200
Yes, but it's not a game. It's a FPOV modern AU of the boys.

>>1792327
>not a game
Did they learn nothing from LADs' success?
The market is so empty for high quality gacha for women that anyone could have a decent chance of success if they make a good game.

>>1792355
They made Light and Night 4 years after Love and Producer, don't expect anything soon

>>1792249
Fuck this entire manga

>>1792249
I'm still waiting for an ugly bastard hag x pretty trophy malewives otoge.

>>1792355
Joseimuke market is meant to be low-effort high-rewards for these suits. They're gonna hire an artist, the VAs, and a marketing team and that's it.

>>1792499
Moralfags won't allow that, sadly.

>>1792499
>>1792565
Thank fuck the majority of joseimuke players have taste above the standards of a regular moid who needs their protagonist to be some ugly slob loser

>>1792637
This is the post from a moid gooning to otome heroines.

>>1792499
>>1792565
You don't even play otome

>>1792792
You will never understand why women play games like Nikki, take your fugly slob protag fantasies and go play galge instead.

>>1792828
I understand why perpetually horny pathetic incels like you play it.
I play it because it looks cute and I have no interest in girls since I'm not a lesbian.

>>1792637
I like my pretty boys degraded, thank you.

>>1792845
>holy projection
take your meds schizo

>>1793014
Post hand, faggot.

>>1792499
just play that old ass otome in which the mc is a fat ugly ass bitch who has to lose weight to get laid

>>1792499
Mob rape or NTR is the best you're gonna get because a lot of otoge players love stanning the heroine.

>>1791936
>Based taste and same. I prefer the boys in fgo just because every guy is so unique and some of them are exactly my type in terms of design and personality.
hell yes. somehow hans' smirk and the back of his neck do more to me than any of the shirtless pictures of the boys that otome games put out. i get those are supposed to be sexy but it just feels stale and watered-down, especially compared to what waifufags and bl fans get.
frankly the lewder scenes in lads just come off overacted to me, like dude is moaning like he's about to bust just because mc softly touched his bicep. please. it's like the male equivalent of a porn star going "ooooOOOOoooOohHhh" after you squeezed her tit once

>>1792637
unironically this. i don't want or need an old fat uggo femc, and the only real reason i can think of for someone wanting this is due to being that way in real life and wanting to self-insert
>hurr durr humiliation factor
shit taste, being hot as fuck when dominating boys to the point it makes them question everything they think and get off to mc despite themselves is awesome. them being attracted to the domme adds an extra level of psychological domination itself

>>1793045
>them being attracted to the domme adds an extra level of psychological domination itself
Now this is based.

>>1793045
Cool story dude, now quit samefagging and post your hand.

>>1793045 exactly, this >>1793019 retard is probably some fat ugly bitch in real life, hence the projection. Joseimuke and otome games especially, always catered to female tastes. And the genre itself has always enjoyed good looking girls as protagonist compared to the galge counterpart which has some fugly moid MC for the incels to self insert into.
The majority of joseimuke players aren't insecure to the point where they need the MC to be ugly in order to feel a sliver of confidence

>he still won't post it
Well, I was wondering why the seanig who posts around this time didn't spam his hoyotrash today.
If I were brown I certainly wouldn't want to show my hand to anyone.

>>1793029
>i get those are supposed to be sexy but it just feels stale and watered-down.
Honestly i thought i was the only one to feel that way, glad to see someone else shares that feeling lol, also a lot of shirtless sprites of otome men have no nipples or if they have they look like mosquito bites, it looks so unappealing.

>>1793029
cute boy, eli5 on him?

i get what you mean by what waifufags get but what do you mean by what bl fans get?

>>1793097
Now that you put it that way... I was wondering why that poster with the strange moid-like writing style kept samefagging. It makes sense if it was a actual moid with gears to grind.

>>1793182
>>1793097
Blatant ass samefagging.

>>1793182
the irony of you two accusing others of being an incel while having peak moid taste, uggo fatso MC is a moid thing not a joseimuke or otome thing.
I get that you are desperate for female attention but women do not enjoy looking or playing as an ugly fatso

>>1793205
>>1793206
Says the one samefagging with two phones lol.

>>1793212
>Says the one samefagging with two phones
So this is how you've been doing it?

>>1793206
>but women do not enjoy playing as an ugly fatso
lmao, I know several JP fujos who absolutely love self inserting as ugly mobs.

>>1793045
>>1793080
>>1793206
>>1793216
LOL so this is seanig's first month on 4chan? Your horrible grammar isn't subtle, you know?

>>1793217
Exactly, it's a fujo mainstay since decades ago. But then again, I don't expect the seanig who has only ever played waifuslop to know that.

>>1793217
>ugly mobs love to self insert as ugly mobs
wow

I thought fujos don't self-insert

>>1793222
>having a schizo breakdown because no one wants to play as an ugly fat bitch

>>1793230
No woman would deride other sisters. Also most of us are fine with being ugly since we give no fucks about moid's attention, unlike moids who are constantly seeking it.

Jesus fucking christ stop entertaining the bait. It's bloody obvious it's a dude spamming the damn thread. Only spurned dudes would be so obsessed with calling women ugly bitches.

>>1793253
Not saying it isn't a dude, but I have seen women get really weird when the heroine is deemed "not pretty enough" for a guy. Then again, they're probably teenagers.

If I want to look at ugly people I'd go outside, keep the pixels pretty

This is why nobody takes you yume bitches seriously. You invited all these shitposting moids into the thread by shitting on fujos and now you'll deal with it

>All this because you want to be a bald old man
I'm guessing this is also the cuntboy schizo

>>1793272
way to out yourself as a shut-in neet...

>>1793274
>fujos self inserting as ugly mobs
holy mental illness
Every BL game would automatically flop with a fat uggo protag and none of you can convince me otherwise.

>>1793284
The opposite, having to look at so many ugly people day in and out makes me less fond of the idea to look at even more ugly characters when I play a game.
Would rather have no protagonist than an ugly fatso

>neet loser
>brown
>larps as a girl on 4chan
>likely a repressed faggot
I feel so sorry for his parents

>>1793259
Maybe it's teens who discovered 4chan from some twitter screenshot but based on how gamer dudes take personal offense and have melties over AAA video games women being "woke" and not "hot", I'm more inclined to think it's a dude. I like cute heroines in my vidyas but not to the extent of having a melty over not having one.

If you don't want to play as an fatty with a cleft chin you're not a real woman.

>still getting this mad over some rando's questionable niche taste

>4 samefagging posts in a row
is the drama thread slow today or why are the schizos trying to push their uggo fetish in the joseimuke general

>>1793222
Kek, add
>>1793253
>>1793287
>>1793315
to the list of samefagging. I can't believe I didn't pick up that pattern in his writing earlier.

>>1793346
>fatty with a cleft chin
This is just the average Capcom protag these days.

>>1793401
Sorry it's me again but I meant to type >>1793274 instead of >>1793253

>>1793409
I'm not the samefagging obvious moid, but I do still believe that the yumes itt get too uppity to shit on fujo related things be it shipping or BL as a whole as if I don't notice.

i honestly don't remember the last time i actually saw yumes shit on fujos ITT until the invaders from the drama thread came here to falseflag and try spread debunked rumors so i can only guess its them again since they love infighting there so much

>>1793475
I dislike fujos but, I don't come here to bitch about them. I just want to talk about cute boys without retarded redditors calling everyone and everything "problematic" because there was no gay LIs or some other shit.

>>1793489
i dont care for yume games but i try supporting any big budget ones that come out bc the more women targeted games there are the better chances they expand to more audiences and tastes.

>because there was no gay LIs or some other shit
those are the lgbt twitter freaks i do not align with them, true fujos know to mind their business and ship things in peace, any idiot that tries telling otome devs what to do with their games is retarded for even thinking they'll ever listen to westoids

>>1793475
It's just bored moids from the drama thread pretending to be yumes or thinking they know anything about joseimuke. You can tell it's them because all their knowledge about otome comes from isekaislop and they can't name a single joseimuke outside of LADs because it's mainstream.
Moids show up here acting like BL is never discussed when Nucarni is one of the main gachas we talk about. They think women are insecure about fujos like moids are with yurifags.

>>1789230
Squenix can't even manage a gacha and started doing NFT shit, they're run by the most out of touch boomers imaginable.

>>1793671
True. Even their most popular gachas they manage to EOS. Most of the nip gacha industry is out of touch boomer suits and the only real "modern" 3D success they have over there is Uma.

>>1793464
These threads have been obsessed with nucani like it's going out of style. Like >>1793670 said: no one was complaining until the bored drama threaders came in.
Please excuse me but I'm going to go back and enjoy my omni pandering games
Especially since my favorite yume game, Infinity Nikki, has decided to become too greedy.

>>1793670
This. I'm pretty sure they came here to try and stir shit up after the 3 male gemshin character reveals since they did the same after wuwa's first male banner was a huge success so the next time you see an obvious tourist throwing a temper tantrum just assume a male unit got added to their favorite gacha

>>1793688
>Infinity Nikki
>yume game

>>1793670
It's so stupid how they feel threatened over yurifags, those people should just learn to differentiate between rabid tumblr shippers and normal yuri fan artists then block the crazies and move on, it's really simple.

>160 rolls
>plus $1k bonus for the packs
I am ready for the myths and spicy summer banner (assuming that's still real)

I am the only one in here who actually plays Infinity Nikki. Otherwise someone would have mentioned that the floating elf outfit needs continuous button mashing to stay afloat, making it a literal pain to use over the default floating outfit. I already used all my gems to complete it

>>1793768
Yeah... I really really think it's the moid now... He actually thinks the rants against twittards are rants against all fujos... Does he seriously think we get offended when people rant about braindamaged retards who ship otome LIs together and think their cowardly chink omnipandering slop would have canon love interests? I'm not dumb enough to think I'm one of those twittards.

This all started because some schizo moid was sperging out over anons not liking his fatso MC fetish kek
From claiming fujos self insert as uggo mobs to claiming IN is a yume game kek

Why do joseimuke gachas keep posting bday updates after the game eosd eons ago? Such a weird practice

>>1794063
it's for engagement incase the company decides they can still milk whatever is left of their fanbase, just look at Obey Me. they still shilled merch after their "totally not an eos" announcement then they made a fundraiser to restart their dead game.

Love his fat head

Devs should do more to promote their games instead of relying on spamming low quality merch. Looking at LaDs and how much money it puts into marketing, it's clearly paying off. Not sure why JP devs arent doing the same. I've never seen a JP joseimuke go beyond the standard banner announcement and obligatory B's LOG appearance. The most I've seen is Enstars having collabs with other gaming franchises but that's about it, they had one sanrio collab too but that was ages ago.

>>1793932
you can change it in the settings sis, I forgot how bc i haven't touched the game in months but there should be a guide somewhere

>>1794094
Twst does big announcements and buys ad space in Tokyo stations if I remember correctly but they have Disney money backing them.
There's also the anime that's coming out soon which is pretty funny since I remember they announced it all the way back during Twst's 1st anni.

>>1794094
I suspect jp devs are either broke or run by out of touch old men in suits. I mean, they thought this >>1791782 was a good idea ffs.

>>1794056
>From claiming fujos self insert as uggo mobs
Don't need to claim, you just need to browse Enstars yaoi.
I quite like this girl's stuff:
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/120445424
Btw, it's not because of low self-esteem, it's about having fun being a bastard rapist that can do whatever. Doing that while self-inserting as another character might get that character's fans offended, so...

>moid is still trying to push his ugly mob fetish /here/
Fujos that like that shit are niche even among other fujos. The only ones that like that garbage are the ones that are so passed average porn that they resort to that level of degenerate just to get off.
>artist is a shotafag
Of course it's the shitter that keeps posting about ugly shotatrash here. No gives a shit about your pixiv favorites, retard.

>>1794192
You're aware mob x chara is a staple in JP BL right? This has absolutely nothing to do with self inserting.
You won't catch me self inserting as a fugly bastard moid out of all things.
Mobs exists so you can see your favorite character get fucked, it's meant to highlight the character and serves no other purpose. If you self insert as a fatso mob, you got some issues.

>he's still mad
Oh well, me and the other 10k peeps who liked her stuff are having fun instead.

>>1794209
>This has absolutely nothing to do with self inserting.
About that...
https://x.com/h_gumin/status/1396875537964933120

Your tantrums are pretty amusing, but if I were you I'd probably get a job. Your parents won't be alive forever to feed you.

>want either Dante or Rei in NuC
>only got Kuya instead after 120 rolls
Pain

>self inserting as an uggo moid
unironically kys

It's evening in SEA time zones and of course the moralfag seanig is back. I miss the quiet hours.

No one gives a shit about your kinks. This is fucking 4chan, none of you are mentally healthy if you're here.

>>1794263
The retarded seanig moid is some lonely loser with no friend irl since he treats this thread like a shitty discord to share his pixiv likes and kinks that only mongoloids like him enjoy.
You can tell it's the same seanig because he post nothing but shotashit and talks about self-inserting as some uggo. Retard can't even tell the difference between a regular joseimuke and an otome game.

>>1794274
>lonely loser with no friend irl
So is this your problem, seanig-kun? You don't have a single friend so you spend all your time on 4chan trying to sow discord among anons?

>>1794222
Are you me? Because I wanted Dante but ended up with just the evil old fox. At least it's better then nothing.
The thing I'm pissed about though is the 300 rolls needed for the guarantee in this event but the opening scenario thing with diary was kino though.

>>1794094
JP companies think seiyuu is all the marketing they need, lazy fucks

>>1790963
People boo hoping the game isn't yume enough as if yumes aren't also psychos. Hoyo sucks but fujos have no other big game thatr panders that isn't porn and that has some form. Yumes already have a high quality game in LADS. Not all gacha games need to be pandering to yumes or the master love crowd, some people prefer characters interacting with each other, not shipping ourselves with them.

>>1794311
he's lying, sis. there is no yumepandering in Homorail and it's just a delusional seanig trying to get yumes to talk to him in the thread. and what are you talking about? fujos have tons of fujobait and pandering in almost all the big joseimukes like Enstar, Twst, touken ranbu, hypnosis mic, etc...there's less yumebait in the entire industry for omnislop and joseimuke then fujobait. fujos aren't some minority in fandoms and never have been.

huh didn't expect nucani to get nendos this soon

>>1794321
You're replying to the moid, otherwise how could anyone who has been playing joseimuke for more than a month not know that most games have fujobait but not yumebait? Plus, an otome game is literally a dating sim and it shouldn't even count as "yumebait", that's like saying a galge is ml.

>>1794339
sorry about that. the retarded moid keeps replying to himself so i should've known it was him since it is obvious he knows nothing about fujos, yumes, or the joseimuke industry.

>>1793029
>older andersen
ruined even more than this general has been ruined

more aster and dante...

Sorry to break it to you but evidently there are women who du yume for Hoyoverse characters

https://x.com/i/communities/1908570737234845887

Make that what you will.

There are yumes for random shit like Spongebob, that doesn't make it yumebait.

I would like to submit an apology letter to nu:government

>>1794508
That's not really much of a surprise.

all posts in this thread were made by me

>>1794635
dear moid have you tried looking at images you post