Thread 1805303

Are you excited for her game?

Pre-regs ongoing.

>Smilegate
>has dudes
After the cuckfest that was Epic 7 no thanks.

>>1805339
ML games have the worst playerbases

>>1805417
>m-muh ML
Epic Seven makes Honkai Star Rail look like a waifu game in comparison.
You clearly havent engaged with that game with the tone of your post.

>>1805303 (OP)
TOTAL SMILEGATE DEATH

>>1805420
You are not very intelligent, are you? Idgaf about males in my game, nor do I shit myself if every female doesn't throw herself at the mc. Idk why you thought your model of the world was the standard.

>>1805435
You're trying to shill a game with a female character. If you didnt give a shit about it, you would have posted gameplay instead.
Oh wait it's probably chibishit with PVP since it's a korean game. Exhilirating gameplay!

>>1805303 (OP)
>shartgate
lol

>>1805438
So insecure. People like you ruin games with cute girls because you just HAVE to take things to the extreme. You're like the chinks who see every man as a prop for you cuck fantasy. It's kinda sad that you're physically incapable of appreciating a cute design because you're afraid that the jpeg might leave you. Enjoy your porn games bruv.

>>1805453
You're the one hiding the fact the game has dudes. I mean fuck this is literally as I said the devs of Epic7. And that game is a shipping festival. Fuck that. I'll play Hoyoshit over that garbage anyday of the week.
>cute design
We're in 2025. That design is probably Ai genned anyways kek.

>schizo meltdown because fags can't stay in their gossip drama thread
Many such cases

>>1805438
Why would he post gameplay for a game that isn't out yet?

>>1805303 (OP)
Why would I play low quality mixed toilet game?
>>1805339
Based, MLgod.

>>1805315
is this game ryona?

>>1805591
Yeah I guess

>>1805591
Idk
It's the afflictions from darkest dungeons on an anime character. That's like the main gimmick.

>>1805591
More like mental ryona

>>1805644
So like DD with mods, probably voiced as well, sounds good to me

They just put out drip for one of the target characters

She's the character I matched with on their gay little quiz site. Feels good.

>>1805771
Feels like CZN has strong momentum, we should be getting her for free
I hope she's the type who gets flustered in a cute way when do you unusual stuff like eating pizza starting with the crust

I think we all need Rin.

>>1805339
>>1805420
It’s called epic shit.

>>1805769
>>1805771
>>1805773
>>1806992
>please play our game we will give you free cuckbait

>>1805769
This and Aditya Surya from Counterside make me think that Korean should do their research better.

>>1807385
What's wrong with Amir?
Is it because it's usually a male name?

whoa, this looks pretty se... oh wait m*les. I'm out.

>Get to skip every male banner and save up on pulls
>Not using males will be a fun challenge on specific stages
The only real issue is that some of your 5* pulls will be wasted on dudes but that shouldn't matter much past the first few months of playing the game

>>1807385
panjeesh is too blatant
>>1807387
yeah and it's indian but tbqh i'm already desensitised to woman having masculine name in gacha

>>1807385
>>1807387
>>1807395
>picrel, iconic father son duo
Foreign names are basically gender neutral to the japs.

>>1807751
I am a tard

Also 5 out of the 6 girls in limbus have male names, and they're all foreign

Release when

>>1807804
I've seen both september and october as the most likely release time
Source: people speculating

>>1807804
Leddit says 10/15
Some said that when you open pre-regs in Google play you have a set amount of time to release the game so thats where they got that info, so maybe it could be earlier

>>1807804
Not soon enough.

>>1808112
stop posting semen demons while im at work

>>1807395
Amir is persian

>No news
Eos soon

>>1809129
Big news today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snUjh_kYPt4
>(good news) Game is about 90% done
>(bad news) Bara furry wolf might have an important role in the story
>Details about gameplay and art
>Another Q&A like this is planned

>>1815133
Bara wolf's important story moment is that he gets killed off, watch.

Nobody gives a shit about some dude's trauma
Like bro, shake it off and get to work you coward
That alongside the fact that they're only showcasing female characters makes me wonder why they even bothered to add males

>>1815133
>Purgis chad

>>1815133
>four core devs are straight men
>male mc with pivotal role, bonding feature, etc.
>"yknow what? let us add playable MALES into the game"
fuck were they thinking

>>1815574
Can't beat the suits.
If the suits tell them to add male characters and furries so the game can target a "wider audience" then they have to comply.

>>1815574
seems like you'll get to chose your mc's gender but this was from a leak a while ago so they might have scrapped the femc but then why would they still keep the male characters in the game...

>>1815797
I hope she's in.

>>1815854
She does look cool and hot in a weird "I wanna fuck a robot" way too
I'd pick the dude tho, it's more immersive when you romance the girls

>>1815854
Apparently they scrapped that design and made the mc (which is confirmed to be male only now no femc option) into a generic short black hair dude in a military suit... i don't know how they're going to handle the bonding stuff with the other male characters this might be the first yaoi gook gacha or the bonding stuff with the males might just be bro things without being gay

robo rover

Damn, can't wait to get ridiculed by the korean monetization: the trademark kimchi. Oct. 15 can't come soon enough

>>1815797
>literally doctor and priestess

>cute girls suffering
I will 100% enjoy the story, no matter how shitty the gameplay may be.

>>1815797
do you still have the video of leaked shit?

>>1815969
People love Korean misery porn writing
CZN story has great potential as long as the devs don't shy away from that

too many cowtits need more dfc. looking forward to it regardless though.

>>1805773
>>1805771
>>1805769
DEI character

>>1815797
Ah, didn't epic 7 only have a male protag? A lack of a fixed protag usually ruins the focus of the story.
>>1816346
Can't be, she's hot.

>>1816386
i have never seen a korean gacha game with a female protag ever, even the ones with mixed gender only have a male protag

>>1816397
I don't play limbus anymore, but is Dante male?

>>1815797
scrapped design
here is the new design

>>1816497
wow he’s literally me

>>1816497
it's really a shame they had to remove the female mc option but it is a korean gacha and they are very allergic to a female lead in thier waifu games (even though it's a mixed toilet)

HOLY SHIT. BIG NEWS.

These niggas never do open playtests.

>>1816497
Nikke commander?

>>1816809
Isn't that girl in blue the same as >>1805311? What happened to her glorious tits?

>>1816809
I wonder why they're doing it this time
>Fine tuning the balance
>Feedback for the gacha rates
>Just building up excitement for the release
>Other big releases are doing it so we should too

>>1816809
wtf is ras doing here

>>1816497
okay so why did they make this a mixed toilet if they want the nikke fanbase?

>>1818151
the mental illness that makes you get all triggered when you see males is only found in chinks, japs and brown westoids, gooks are immune

>>1818211
but the devs literally said czn is an ml game so what the fuck is the point of adding males?

>>1818227
gooks love NTR, it's that simple

there will be no pvp

>>1818302
I will now play your game

interviews
https://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=308468&site=gameofdice
https://m.ruliweb.com/news/read/214562

>>1818331
>all the dragon girls are partners and not playable
thats bullshit

So it's a card game???

>>1818302
No direct PvP is good, but I hope they put some effort into indirect PvP:
>Comprehensive scoring system like in an arcade game
>Collection rate and some other metrics to show off
>Any form of incentive to clear the hardest content as soon as it releases (like how MMO players aim to be "World first clear")
>Seasonal coop or guild mode with a leaderboard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha92d3u4-cY
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QU7HAJObyAM
gameplay video

>>1821368
So it's Slay the Spire + DD.
One of the starter chars got killed by the tutorial boss
Really set up the mood for some suffering porn.

here are all the current 5*s in the pool

rates

>>1821502
yikes

>>1821368
Looks good, reminds me of Morimens but more polished

>>1821502
>Only green element 5 stars look like ass
Thankfully it looks like 4 stars are good enough

>>1821503
>1% for rate up, 2.14% for any 5 stars
In a vacuum that doesn't tell us much
We need to know how pity works and most importantly how much pull currency we get from dailies/weeklies

>>1821503
big yikes

Is there a release date yet?

Hope this releases in October since I'm busy with SilkSong in September

>>1821973
>>1821966
they announced they will be at TGS so high chance they will announce the release date there

>>1821503
>rate up are not even half of *5
I hope you guys enjoy hitting pity.

>>1821577
Many Morimens players, myself included, will likely give it a try. However, with the significantly higher budget, I anticipate that the story may end up being some slopfest. I don't know, i’ll probably stick with Morimens.

>>1822530
I enjoy Morimens but the progression is kind of slow and the events are lackluster in terms of gameplay variety, so I hope this is in some way a refreshing experience inbetween Morimens content drops

morimens more like ilikemens

>>1822568
Dude CZN is also a mixed toilet

>>1822580
>mindbreak the girls for my pleasure
>mindbreak the guys because they spooked me
I win

>>1822580
czn more like czmen

So how does this work with the male characters since the player is also male?

>>1823567
gay sex I presume

>>1823567
It's just friendship bonds.

>genshin gacha
>genshin constellations
fuck these jew gooks

>>1823567
It's all platonic, there is no romance.

>>1823771
not what the devs said

>>1823805
There can't be any romance when it\s haremshit.

>>1823806
There will be romance. Between characters. Kinda like Epic Seven.

>you have to pull on a banner for animated cards
>if you have animated cards next to welfare cards its going to look like shit
hopefully eos within a year

>>1823567
Gay stuff. I'm fine with it, at least it'll attract fags instead of w*men

>>1823884
>what are fujoshi

>>1823888
Oh fuck

I think it's funny they want to show us her "goods" so much they twisted her body to impossibility.

>>1823854
apparently the animated card gacha is free currency but its still stupid as fuck
the gooks need to send some fucking trucks

>>1823884
>>1823888
>>1823889
Korean games don't shy away from having males in male targeted gacha. It'll be a low %, but they will be there.

I played Counterside for quite a while, and you had "lifetime contracts" you could give any girl, guy, monster, mech, soldier you want for a short blurb and 2% stats or whatever once they hit 100 affection and notably no longer lose any if you lose a fight with them.
Notably the males aren't written for females, so they are on average WAY more likable than what you'd know or expect from games that actually design them for a female audience.

>>1824102
Kayron is designed for female audience

>>1823967
Mindbreak?
More like spinebreak

>>1824102
Epic7 devs aren't Counterside devs, though. They never pumped out fanservice skins for the girls at the the same rate as CS or even genderbent one or two guys like they did. Both games are 2d PvPslop, yet Epic7 was clearly designed for the Summoners' war audience while Counterside was noticeably more...for lack of a better word..."incel-oriented."
That being said, though, I've noticed a lot of Korean devs drastically changing up how they handle their gachas after Arknights (notice the decreased emphasis on or even lack of pvp in newer gachas as well as the increased emphasis of fanservice, for example), so maybe these guys will end up doing the same.

Playtest sign ups are out

>>1825165
Ah fuck it
https://chaoszeronightmare.onstove.com/en/promotion/techtester

>>1825165
so entire september is just a 2 CBT? fuck, i thought it will be out this month

>>1825140
This looks amazing.

>>1825247
They want to advertise at the Tokyo game show first which is Sept 28

>EU can't access Beta
Was going to spend money on this game
Well, now I'm not even going to play

>>1825520
what the fuck lmao
smilegate are such niggers

>>1825520
I still signed up using a VPN
Though since our feedback isn't welcome I probably won't bother with any survey they send my way

>>1825520
>it's Magia Exedra all over again
fuck this shit

>>1825520
SEA can't also. But after hearing that it's 50/50 + weapon banner (not sure if that's 75/25 or whatever), I had little hope for the game.

>>1821966
>>1821973
either this month or next. they said it would release this month. app store says next month

>>1825693
>I had little hope for the game
I'd say the two most likely outcomes for the games are:
>Devs refuse to make player friendly changes
>Game is less successful than Epic Seven
>Slowly bleeds players
or
>Devs try their best to make the game welcoming
>probably still won't be a massive hit on launch
>Playerbase slowly grows
With how many gachas and other high budget F2P games are coming these next few months they really can't afford to be as greedy as a established genre leaders

>>1821502
>the men look better than the generic women
Based

>Limited character won't be added to standard banner
>Weapon banner
>50/50 system
>Skin banner >>1823854
>>>1823689
It's still amazing though that you retard will still try to play this game with this atrocious monetization.

>>1825875
Forget about the most important thing
>Asking this much just for 2D character
Sadly I think it'll be a success because humans are a cattle.

>>1816809
Why is Wa2k in this image

>>1825877
>Sadly I think it'll be a success because humans are a cattle.
>Preregistration still only at 1 million
>Basically 0 hype
Meanwhile the game is directly competing with Stella Sora (4M prereg), Duet Night Abyss (5M prereg) and Blue Protocol Star Resonance (less prereg but WAY more active community prelaunch) which all release around the same time
And after that there are 5+ highly anticipated gachas with TBA release dates
CZN looks fantastic but if they don't course correct it's heading the Outerplane path
If roguelike card based gameplay and fancy 2D graphics was enough to carry a gacha that much Morimens wouldn't be such a blip on the radar

>>1825896
That anon still has his gacha market mindset back during Epic7 period when a somewhat fancy 2d animated gacha means guaranteed success, when things have became much more brutal nowadays.

Would you be interested in eldritch girls with missing body parts?

>>1825930
Cool enough to get one copy
Wouldn't fully invest into her tho

It's over.

>>1825939
qrd?

>>1825953
>CZN has the same gacha systems as Genshit
>People hate it

Is this another Knights of Veda? When the fancy 2d art and somewhat unique gameplay can't carry the game because of how much of a greedy scumbags the devs are.

>>1825963
I bet they plan on doing a ton of ads to try and make it big
Won't stop players from quitting the game when they get burned by the terrible gacha tho

Isn't it a little early to doompost?

>>1826040
What else are we supposed to say?
>Yeah, people will play and support this game despite it having one of the worst gacha system, have you seen how many hours people clock into games like Slay the Spire?
>Don't worry about all these other already established games, CZN is looking so good that people will play it over the most popular titles
>Who cares about these other new games, 3D and generous monetization are overrated. We got a cool and unique trauma mechanic over here

>>1826040
The game isn't exactly living up to people expectation with every new bits of information we are getting, and I don't think smilegate is known for being sensible either. If a game flops its launch it's pretty much impossible to make a come back nowadays, either an early EOS or forever staying in obscurity.

>>1826040
they need to fix the gacha I mean even the main audience of gooks are complaining on dcside
505/50 is straight fucking dogshit

>>1825973
Well that worked for etheria reshart at least

>>1826048
Judging by their revenue it looks like they lost 3/4th of their playerbase in 3 months
Wouldn't be surprised with how poor of a reputation the game has these days

>>1826046
>gooks complaining
This true? And the devs are ignoring them? Proof?

>>1826040
games doa man. it is what it is.

>>1825166
Wait, can I only sign up once? I thought I'd sign up for the mobile tester and pc tester role but I accidentally hit mobile only.

Chrono Ark mogs this kusoge

>>1826145
TRVKE

>>1826145
shitty gooner sts mods with gigantic tits on every playable card probably mogs this as well

>>1826159
>Spend 10 bucks on STS
>4 fully powered up characters
>PC also gets access to hundreds of mods featuring new characters, cards, cosmetics, etc. All for free
VS
>Spend 10 bucks on CZN
>If you're lucky that'll be enough for one copy of one character
>You need at least 3 copies of a character to get their card cost reduction ability (7 copies in total for full power)
>You also need a support character that basically functions as a weapon and can only be gotten from another banner
>Cosmetics are obtained in yet another banner too
What were they thinking?

STS?

>>1826439
I think he means Slay The Spire

>>1826421
This is true for all gacha though.
> Shittiest single-player game>>>>>>> Best live-service game >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best gacha

>>1826465
too bad single player games are all woke slop with zero t&a now

>>1826465
True, but a solid gacha still
>gives you something to look forward to with each updates
>nice bite-sized feeling of progress everyday
>the fun of pulling for new characters
If CZN stays as greedy as they've show it'll be more along the lines of
>Each update is bittersweet because of how stingy the game is
>Feeling of progress is still there and nice (could be too grindy for F2Ps)
>Pulling characters is frustrating because of the low rates + 50/50 crap

Peak character design.

>>1826674
Spears are already the ultimate melee weapon, she doesn't need an oversized gun too
Those kneepads are dumb, she could also have done without the ears
I guess they were afraid of her not being recognizable enough without these

>>1826679
Ok, you're retarded.
That, or you're a thread shitter

>>1826690
Rude. I like her too, but I honestly think the gun gotta go
The kneepads and ears can stay

>>1826694
But how is she supposed to take care of far off enemies without a gun?

>>1826674
sadly she is a partner meaning she isnt actually playable
this partner shit is actually a detriment to this game
like pic related is a partner

>>1826674
Kinda reminds me of some of K-Suwabe's art. Anyone know where I can find more of this aesthetic? Sexy, badass, alien-ish?

>>1826757
Damn, that was low quality

>>1826759
While we're at it

>>1826732
Rush in and impale them with your spear
You can dodge enemy projectiles if you run fast enough

>>1826736
This would have been something players would have begged for a few years into the game if we had plenty of NPCs who couldn't be playable for some reason
It'd also give the gameplay and teambuilding a needed shakeup
Doing it on release feels both greedy and wasteful

>>1826736
That's the umbrella from Death Stranding. This is the second character accessory that feels lifted from death stranding. Not a bad thing mind you, but I haven't seen anyone point it out.

>>1826762
its so fucking dumb man
the entire dragon faction isnt playable right now
every single one of them is a partner

>>1826768
Of course this has to happen to the sexiest designs...

>>1826768
That's really strange. Maybe they want to build up to them?

>>1805303 (OP)
Any cute and funny in this one?

Whilst this game is a shitshow due to its gacha, I never understood the distain for 2D and how we automatically praise 3D. A lot of the 3D games just use similar models and don't actually try for unique models. Just being 3d doesn't magically imply effort. Street fighter 5 could shit out costumes because of little they gave a fuck about the 3d and many complaints that I have about the 3d gachas I play are how much they want to standardise the animations and models.

>>1826932
Meh, deep down you know where that and "generic design" complainers came from.

>>1826932
I blame the rampage shitposters and them calling anything with 2d art "AIslops" nowadays.

>>1826932
KoF XIII looks WAY better than its sequels who had to go 3D due to lower budgets, yet nobody claimed KoF XIV & XV needed a lower price-point due to the cheaper art direction
Meanwhile pretty much every 2D game out there has to settle for a lower retail price because it's ingrained in the average gamer's mind that 3D>2D
I'm sure a minority of players will check out CZN specifically because it's a high quality 2D game

>>1827002
>>1826932
its such a shame so many gacha and games in general keep doing 3D slop

>>1827002
I was going to use this as an example but thought people would understand. But I feel like the apt comparison would be Kof13, guilty gear (xrd + strive, and street fighter. Everyone seems to assume that 3d = the newer guilty gears where everything is meticulously done to the detriment of the production time. But most 3d is just capcom copy-paste skin costume on a 3d rig, and at least capcom had models for each character with unique hit and hurt boxes. Games like genshin don't even do that and just cycle through the 4 or 5 preset models they have, and all animations have to work with all the weapons. Yet the most timeless one, KOF13, set SNK so far back due to their commitment to the HD sprites, yet people will just say "lol 2D bad." This is gameplay, not withstanding, of course.

>>1826886
a couple. I doubt they'll add many more though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV1UYger5gM

>>1827002
>>1827029
I like the fact czn is 2d. The sprites and animations are beautiful. But is the comparison correct? KoF XIII was (understandably) super costly to make. Third-strike too for similar reasons.
But then games like Limbus usually have pretty big profit margins because of how cheap it is to make their assets. CZN definitely has better animations but I'm sure it's still way cheaper to produce than any 3D game (hopefully, I want CZN to be profitable).
I think it's pixel art specifically that bumps up the production cost.

>>1826937
Wdym?

>>1827002
I still remember when Idola flopped and switched from 2d to 3d for it's 2nd arc just to save cost. The sprite itself isn't even as good as FGO.

>>1827029
>>1827117
You know the massive difference when you look at a burger in an ad, and then you order the burger yourself?
That's what it feels like sometimes looking a gacha character's 2D splash art and then its 3D model. The upcoming Duet Night Abyss is especially guilty of that.
Keeping it 2D like CZN has its upsides.

is it nyover?

>>1827380
You tell me.
The good:
>Game looks great
>Lots of content on release
>Devs repeatedly said they want CZN to be F2P friendly
The bad:
>Still only 1 million prereg
>Low gacha rates
>Dupe system has powerful effects
The ugly:
>50/50 bullcrap
>Weapon banner
>Some revealed characters are mere NPC supports that act like weapons

>>1826768
>>1827391
You guys are literally retarded. The official site clearly indicated from the start that these characters were intended to be support only characters.

We don't even know the currency income yet. It's retarded to cry about 5050s.

>>1827455
Maybe the income will be so generous to people who do their full 15 minutes dailies that you can get one copy of everyone F2P
Still, it's stupid to give this game the Mihoyo gacha system mark of shame and give it a terrible first impression as well as turn people off before they even get to know how the full economy works

>>1827455
>copy banner system
>copy pity system
>copy dupe system
>copy shop system
>copy topup system
surely they didnt copy the income rate...

I will cry about 5050s and theres nothing you can do to stop me

I'm happy to talk shit, but we all plan on still giving the game a chance, right?
Nobody is canceling their preregistration over this, correct?

>>1827527
I 100% am. No point in wasting time with shit like this if you're not a whale.

>>1827391
But is it fun?

>>1827527
Ill try but unless the gameplay is good I dont see myself sticking around

>>1827527
Better expect a dead player base for at least a month. Epic7 also had a rocky start with NO pity.

>>1827413
it's still fucking dumb to have a WHOLE faction be just supports
like who the fuck thought it was a good idea to keep the dragon girls as support while the furries and kemonini are all 5*s?

>>1827527
I will. It's too pretty not to try.

>>1827527
Ill play but Im gonna reroll like fucking crazy to get my ideal team fuck the 50/50 gacha

>>1827651
Saw a reset server button when someone was showing settings

>>1827562
>Roguelite cardgame
It's really hard to mess up this kinda game, it's bound to be fun

>>1827651
Same
They should have added one of those infinite roll banner where you get to keep your multi of choice
If new units are all limited and not going to the standard pool then they shouldn't have to worry about people rerolling, we'll all get multiple copies of every base 5* eventually

>>1827897
>mole counter
I will now play your game

>>1827590
well, that's e7 devs for you. In 2025 you should be already aware that feminists and faggots can only double down and if you force them to back down somewhere, they will sabotage your shit later on just in spite

>Games releases soon™
>No confirmed released date
>Release date might be pushed around because of multiple gachas planning to release later this year
This is all so frustrating
Our only beacon of hope is getting more info and footage from the playtest in 10 days

>>1830732
let them cook

>>1830732
considering they will be at tokyo gameshow its most likely the pending date on App might be real
aka October 15

>>1830856
>tokyo gameshow
4+ gachas releasing soon are at TGS, they might be waiting on each other to announce their release date

yjk he beats his meat to the most degenerate ryona doujins

>>1831488
I hope the game will be messed up enough that we never get collabs
>You want Frieren to collab with CZN?
>Sure, but she needs to go through a mental breakdown and we'll have her get stabbed in the thigh for the story

>>1831568
Can always get Arknight or Limbus collabs, or another half dozen edgy games out there.

>save data power limit
Gay, you have to save low power runs to do some content and can't just use the biggest number save.

i still don't understand what he means by wiping your memory.

>>1831488
as every straight man should

>Kayron's bonding story is him and you stargazing with his scope
gay

>>1831680
Probably related to deleting save data like how uma musume has you glue horses.

>>1831725
kill fujodev

some leaks

>>1832003
Is top left a dude?

>>1832089
I have no clue I think its the Elf from Kayron's faction but I dont know

>>1832093
>elf
It's a dude then

>>1831568
So, Goblin Slayer collab?

>>1831620
if they don't make creating low power load outs a pain/hide certain perks or cards behind higher difficulties I don't mind it. Good way to replicate early game struggles months into the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boA7_qrkvj8
News (not really)
Reading the comments, it look like they really messed up by region locking the playtest
Who got the bright idea of basically telling your most passionate fans who follow the game before it even releases
>We don't need people from your third rate country to test our game

>>1832727
eubros...

>>1832727
USA USA

>>1832727
Seethe more seamonkey

>>1821502
is this ai art?

>>1805303 (OP)
>smilecucks
>shitty cutin 2d animations
>roguelite card game, okay
>fucking gacha card game

>>1833250
Incomprehensible. Learn how to green.

>>1833089
it couldn't be more blatant

Game looks like it'll be kinda complicated

>>1835119
Kinda like Chrono Ark, the game it's closest to

>>1821502
Only 4 and 5 have a cool design, grim

are you in?

>>1835583
Thanks for making me Check
Gmail put it in the Promotions tab for some reason

>>1832729
>>1832734
>>1833085
Why seethe when a simple VPN got me the win?

>>1831725
stupid sexy miki voice

>17 different stats on gear
haha fuck you

>>1835629
A cancerous gearing system would be even more detrimental to the game than the greedy gacha system
People played 1000h+ of games likes StS without ever needing to grind for months rerolling for some dumb gear stats

>dogshit rates
>50:50 banner
lol, lmao

I'm in

>New character releases
>Dailies and weeklies (+ monthly battle pass?)
>Seasons that change the common card pool
>Varying rules and effects applied to dungeons
>RPG stats requiring grind to progress
All these are enough incentives to keep playing, the genre of the game itself is already highly replayable
I swear to God, if they on top of all of that slap a garbage ass random gearing system with substats that take ages to reroll just to increase "engagement"...

>>1835763
I think the rng gears pic was a troll
https://youtu.be/hmrUW6QlFW8?
Watching this guy click through all the menus even on character select, there's no gear slots besides partners and the triple gears you get from the rogue like. And those gears had effects not stats.

>>1835781
you realize it could just be an unlock when the gear system gets unlocked through clearing the story mode right, besides the guy in your video says himself its from a playtest server so the content might not reflect the actual release

>>1835781
Thanks that's good to see

>>1835808
That could be a possibility, especially since the reroll substats cancer is usually more for endgame stuff
Still, looking at the video it doesn't look like there is any
It'd be especially fucked up of them to do since the game already has RNG equipment drops mid-runs and support characters that kinda act like a main weapon

>>1835808
They are gonna sell powercreep partners instead bro.

>>1835827
Definitely makes more sense than actively making the game worse with a system that's harder to monetize

So what's the verdict?

>>1835916
test doesn't start until the 18th.

>>1835916
its shit

>>1835583
Yoooooo wtf, I'm in

>>1835943
Wait, what?

>>1835936
It's over
The game is dead already
EoS is in sight before service even began
This failure is gonna be so monumental it's gonna make Outerplane look good
Hell, CZN might even take Epic Seven down with it

>>1835949
this but unironically

>>1835951
Don't you have some ml thread to bump with your degeneracy?

>>1835944
the playtest starts when the timer ends

Good ending:
>The game is fantastic, enough so to make up for all the greedy and hostile practices
Neutral ending:
>The game is good but the bad stuff holds it back from being truly great
Bad ending:
>Gameplay is all smoke and mirrors, this is just your average autobattler gacha with a fancy roguelike cardgame skin
Only 33 hours to go before the truth is revealed

>>1836593
Where's the true ending anon?
>The gameplay is fun at first but after you reached endgame it becomes another average autobattler gacha with a fancy roguelike cardgame skin and all the bad stuff holds it back from being truly good.

>>1836613
>truly good
>gacha
Pick one.

I'm sure that hololive collab song will save us.

>>1805303 (OP)
alien ass face

>>1836613
Man, this hits way too close to home...

>>1836593
>Gameplay is all smoke and mirrors, this is just your average autobattler gacha
GFL2 flashbacks.

>>1837124
>Pre-reg reward character isn't a 5 stars
We should have guessed this game was going to be greedy as hell the moment we saw that
She's the prettiest 4 stars tho, so it's not all bad

>>1837136
They are just being honest instead of giving people a 5* pre-reg with 4* performance.

Anyone having trouble updating their game? Playstore version.

This doesn't have English VA? The fuck. Epic Seven was like the first gacha I know of to have an English dub, some of it actually pretty good.
Kind of surprised SlimeGate wouldn't give this game one too. Maybe they don't have much faith in it...

>>1837515
Is this what we're complaining about now? The fucking english dub? Who tf cares???

>An hour to go
I call dibs on Haru

>english dub
vomitingdog.webm

So...first impression on the beta so far?

>>1837604
i'll let you know in a few hours

>>1837604
It's boring.

>>1837612
What made you say that?

>>1837604
Idk. Just finished first 4 tutorial levels. Seems fine. Will try tomorrow.

gacha time

>>1837654
fuck this homoge

>>1837604
i'm liking it so far

there's like twice as many weapon cards as there is actual characters kek what the fuck are they thinking.

>>1837613
Lmao. You think he even applied for the playtest?

>>1837666
>21 combatants and 33 partners.
>6 of the partners are freebies
Wdym? Should they have more combatants than partners? How would that work?

If they really can do rotation cards without making you feel that you can only win with the new characters they want to shill, the game will be really good.

Yeah, no. Fuck that.
Man, I even took the day off work but pulling this piece of shit just killed my will to play
I used to shit on Arknight players by telling them
>Imagine trying to pull a cute girl but you instead get a bara furry

These tooltips are so shit

>taking the day off to beta test a gook gacha
lmao deserved

>>1837613
Story is incredibly generic.

>>1837725
I'd argue the story matters less as the sense of exploration and worldbuilding since this is a roguelike

Game is pretty fun but the shitty translations on the cards/lack of tooltips really ruin it. Story is very meh so far. Lots of random faction dumps and I don't appreciate them shoving the main generic girl down my throat so hard in the first chapter.

If weapons are the support characters. Does that mean they don't intend to have designated signature weapons?

>>1837692
They can do it by shilling multiple playstyles at once. If you only shill one, it's easy for you not to have the pieces to play it effectively. And if you can play any comp with the bonuses, then the bonuses are just too strong.

I don't like how everything is either piss easy or level locked
Getting your ass kicked and learning to get good is the most fun part when you first play a new card game
I'm not learning anything right now, I've even started using auto

>>1837780
The lack of tooltips hurts a lot, especially when the characters you start with have cards like:
>Gain 2 Wave Gain 1 save
>Deal 200% dmg Gain 2 Morale
You should get a description of what those keywords mean when you hover over them

>>1837786
I guess the signature weapons are those prism module shit that you have to roll to give characters their specific animation effects.

>>1837658
>>1837714
KEK

>>1837714
HUGO'D

Can't these nigger do like fgo a male and female banner... Please no more, I don't want to pull for guys that aren't knigga or fully armored units

>Look at some beta gameplay
>Most of the low rarity 3* are some kind of furries.
Even early Arknights wasn't this bad.

>>1837885
they're all weapons/summons though but yeah its kinda shit

kinda crazy they're wasting all that art and character design on weapons

>Create a Mindbreak/Ahegao Gacha
>Add Homos and Furries to it
What did they mean by this ?

nice furry game cznkeks

>>1837925
Why are you surprised? Those are the same devs who made Epic Seven after all.

>>1837925
yeah, it's retarded. they went for coom because Nikke's success but added male characters to try to pander to females.
recipe for disaster

>>1837954
They also doubled down for the furry audience too, so you have way more trash to spook your rolls.

>>1837726
ok well the exploration is pretty boring too.

So...it's over for this game? Nothing is salvageable?

>>1837983
I'm enjoying this game a lot, I do want the Live2d to be upgraded before I spend money. Visual Novel sections seem almost static, and the incombat live2d only has an idle and attack sprite.

>>1837986
That said, the chibis are well made.

The game is too easy making all the mechanics of the game irrelevant, they need to add a hard mode.

>vulture launch is actually vulture ejection
this shit AI translated or something?

>>1837954
>male captain only
>devs claim this is an ml game first and foremost
>has a dating system
>has homos and furries
so who is this game for?

>>1838005
gameplayGODS

>>1837994
An ejection is just a launch

>>1838010
thats not the issue here

>ai translated story
>Ai generated characters
It's all just slop

verdict? this shit will launch in a month and I doubt anything will change in that timespan

>>1838042
What did you even expect?

>>1838045
They learned nothing from Epic Seven, they just took the same turd and polished it a little bit.

i haven't seen any bond interactions...

>>1838005
>Male captain
Translation issue literally mtl. Captain has no set gender

what possible reason could they have for not letting you swap equipment around? this is so retarded

>>1838060
What do you mean? The weapons are soul-locked into a character after you equip it? That's a system decades ago lol, fucking koreans haven't moved on from that shitty practice?

>>1838062
They love that shit so it stays despite it being terrible

I can't swap this shit around during the run. If I want to give it to someone who already has a weapon, it just deletes the old one and gives you currency

Please tell me that at least the story is good...

Gayron is too hard to use because his ass fills my deck with 1 cost: [exhaust]... Also the nun is shit compared to the free healer that shits out AP for you.

>>1838070
Space scifi opera meets limbus. It's unique to say the least. Not a bad story though

>>1838069
>during the run
if it's not permanent like collectibles then it relies on your decision making, i see nothing wrong in that

>>1838078
it serves to do nothing but force you to grind more for better saves. If I can't swap out my generalist gear for when I get something obviously specialized for a character when it drops later, there's no decisions to be made. You're just more likely to be screwed by RNG

I just uninstalled
>Dealing 0 damage to enemies
I guess it's because I'm not hitting their elemental weakness
>Put in the bitchboy you get for free in my team against my will
>Still deal 0 damage
Maybe it's because I'm underleveled?
>Switch to the lv1 fight where I'm now overleveled
>Still deal 0 damage
>No explanations as to why anywhere
That and pulling fucking Hugo twice (no other 5 stars) have done it
I'll buy Chrono Ark instead

>>1838133
have fun. charon is the best girl

>you need to pull a character's modules 5 fucking times to get all the gold cards
how are these guys bigger jews than mihoyo kek

>>1838167
Is this even playable as f2p?

>>1837725
I actually read this before playing and expected some really generic story but there's literally only been 1 chapter out rn. 7 fucking levels. Wtf are you waffling about?
>>1838057
Not that I give a shit about stuff like that, but you're a faggot

>>1838176
>you're a faggot
A *lying* faggot, mb. Protos looks to be a male.

>>1838170
these are just cosmetics but its still scummy that you need to pull this shit 5 times

>>1838180
Protos isn't even shown what are you talking about?

>>1838192
Alright man
>>1838198
They're like a disease

>>1837994
What are you even complaining about here?

>>1838213
Greatsword Aquila is referring to a card name that doesn't even exist because their shitty translations decided to name the actual card Vulture Ejection

they literally showed off the design of protos
Protos is male

>>1838314
So...this game is incel-coded...? Back to HSR I guess...

>>1838185
I was under the assumption that the module banner is obtained purely from playing the game, and it's essentially a holographic/foil version of the cards. Of course, they will put packs for sale in the shop upon release, though.

>>1838185
>these are just cosmetics
cosmetics? how so?

This is a game that sounds like you're gonna be stuck using the same units for a long time so I'm gonna reroll hard

>>1838356
think golden cards from hearthstone or holo pokemon cards

This is just early Honkai Impact but card game.

>>1838362
what are you looking for my account was extremely male coded getting two fucking lucas and one hugo so i had no experience with waifus but the former was super fun to play with getting 4 0 cost bullets to shoot with that you can dupe after beating chaos 1 boss, ill likely reroll for 3-4 5 star account on my end
>>1838430
this is a compliment

>>1838430
the second one perhaps, not that i've played it

I've watched a couple hours of different shill streams for the game. Two things stand out.

1.Why is Luke such a fucking liability? He has a full mental breakdown all the fucking time. Multiple times in a run. Is it AI attacking him most often because of some statline he has and so he takes more mental damage? Is his mental just that fragile?
2. This support stuff sucks. There's way more characters I liked the design of that are relegated to a glorified equip than I thought.

The second is just bitching, but the first is a genuine question. What is gun guy's problem?

The autobattle AI is so retarded I swear its just playing random cards

>>1838477
silverstein my beloved...

>>1838480
Triggering Growth Acceleration on Swiftie sounds like big dick damage territory

>>1837986
>>1837987
>>1837988
webm anon can you make all characters skills compilation, can't find it on YouTube.

>>1837986
they won't change the l2d. the chibi animations was already too much, imagine doing this for the l2d

So how does the bonding thing with the homos work, is it super gay?

>>1838646
they bond their cock with your ass

So, what's your biggest criticism on the game, so far?

>>1838706
its shit

>>1805315
I II
I I_

>>1838706
weapon banner

Are closed beta invites still going out?
I only learned of the game yesterday and signed up for it, but it looks like invites were already sent out by the time I signed up.

>>1838706
Gacha

>>1838706
The gacha
When it comes to actual gameplay it's the lack of tooltips, so that should be an easy fix

>>1838815
>>1838825
Do you mean that the rates or something is shit?
Or do you just not like gachas in general?

>>1838838
They pretty much copy pasted the Hoyo games way of doing the gacha system
The numbers are slightly better, but it's trash nonetheless
The average F2P will be stuck with the same <10 units for months, only 1 maybe 2 of which will be 5 stars
Dupes are important too so that make the whole thing stink even worse

how's the gacha model in Nikke? it seems that people are happy with it, maybe smilegate could copy it.

>>1838840
I see.
I'm playing Frontline 2 atm. I'm not too concerned if the rates are similar. But the game has to really catch me if I'm going to stick with it.
I don't mind paying for gacha if the game draws me. But I don't pay more than the monthly sub and packages that has really good value.

>>1838838
the weapons arent just stat sticks in this game like in GFL. they also act like summons that are pretty impactful so you can already tell how clunky teams are gonna be without the correct weapons

>>1838841
Without going into details:
>4% SSR rates with 2% rate up (a few times a year 1% rate up)
>Lots of pull currency for free
>You can 100% guarantee to get any single unit you want because of how the pity can be saved up and used on any banner
Only reason to spend in that game is if you want every single unit or if you want dupes (which don't matter at all unless you care about ranking)

>>1838844
How important are dupes? Do they make as much a difference as GFL2?
I basically spend just enough that I can get a single copy of most the dolls, the only ones I don't I skip because they either don't interest me and/or they're not useful in game. So normally I can afford to get one or two dupes plus their weapons if they add a good boost in power.

>>1838848
its comparable to GFL as most of them change the card text similar to how dupes change abilities in GFL or Genshin

>>1838825
>tooltips.
THANK YOU. There's so many unexplained statuses. They need to put the descriptions on the side of the card like in mtg or shadowverse.

Judging by the limited playtest, this is what my understanding of "Free-to-friendly" as the devs put it
>4 stars combatants are both usable and fun
>You don't need 5 stars partners (so don't worry about ever having to pull on the weapon banner)
>Dupes are important, but you'll get enough of them if you stick to 4 stars
>You will presumably be able to clear even the endgame content with a "budget" team (tho it will be significantly harder, of course)
As long as you're not mad that spenders have shinier toys than you, this should be a good experience F2P

>>1838842
I don't think a player who only buys the good deals will be able to pull whoever he wants
This isn't a game catering to low spenders or even dolphins, they're going hard on whale hunting. They want players to spend hundreds on every 5 stars banners much like the games they copied their gacha system from.
The playtest has no cash shop so who knows, maybe they'll copy everything else from Hoyo but not the microtransactions.

Holeee fuckkkk

>>1838871
Imagine having tits so big your workplace can't offer you a blouse that fits.

Do your counselling choices matter?

>>1838706
Furries
It's boring

>>1838928
>It's boring
It's like Bloons TD6 you can steamroll pretty much every difficulty except the hardest one, and only in that difficulty does the game become legitimately fun and takes skill
We'll soon be telling people
>The game gets good 5 weeks in

>>1838851
locking skill effects behind dupes is fucked up. this game will get shat on because of the gacha system

>>1838958
People didn't have a problem with that in Girls Frontline 2. It wasn't until the skin gacha that they got pissed about it.
And afaik this game is coming out the gates with cosmetic gacha.

>>1838852
They do that for their previous game epic shit. I think someone fucked it up, prob the localizer that changed the names like morale, fortitude, and tenacity. When you are in combat, it has the buff tooltips but ONLY when you click the character when they have it.

>>1838961
the characters are the major drawing point of gflex, which is why people chimped out because of the skin gacha.
the situation is different in CZN, a big part of the playerbase are interested on the gameplay, so locking skill effects behind dupes will only push people away.

>>1838541
Are you talking about Ego skills? I can make ones for the units I pulled but not all of them. Unless there's a way to view them without owning
>>1838638
The chibis are pretty nice at least.
>>1838706
Feels like in harder difficulties, Stress Management is the killer. If one or multiple units stress in battle they suddenly can be 1-2 shot and then when the death door mechanic kicks in, it even ignores healing so the mechanic seems entirely useless atm.

>>1838825
>>1838852
Webm unrelated.
For those unfamiliar with Slay the Spire, you can click the top left section of your buffs or the enemy to view status effect and see how they function. I agree it should be easier to check without needing to engage in battle.
>>1838871
>>1838873
The cream for your coffee is home-made

>>1838998
They should enable shields to block stress or make stress only happen at low hp.

>>1839003
I was trying to test it, I think the shields do block stress. I did a run with few shield cards and struggled with stress despite Mika being able to outheal everything.
Maribell has tons of shields and has carried most saved slots I've earned.

>>1839005
Oh.

>>1839006
Heals restore 1 stress point, and the enemy kept inflicting 10+. So yeah, shield stacking is definitely needed for some fights. Even the camp only restores 5 and there's an Ultimate card (Ultimate means it force ends your turn) that has exhaust (means the card can only be used once per battle) that restores 5 sanity to a random unit. (Sometimes this targets a unit with 0 stress.) so stress management is bullshit, at least at level 20. I plan to play more later but stuck in the wage cage.

>>1838825
>>1838852
>>1839002
Webm Related.
It'll describe Morale/mark etc.

>>1838706
New complaint. If I afk on the menu then who ever I put there won't shut up.

also, Mika Ego

>>1839007
if you think about it, shield being more efficient in stress management makes sense.
would you rather complete avoid the damage or suffer the damage, feel its pain and then have it healed?

>>1839039
I get the idea they want to make sure you have a balance team with some sort of unit who can create shields, but the lack of options to reduce stress once it builds up is my main gripe.

Though it's not completely bad, as the stress cards are free and work like a faux limit break once you cure it. Draw cards would be my best option then but the amount of cards you need to cure sanity break increases each time you stress out during a ruin. I had to pull 10 stress cards on mika once.

All this said, I have no idea how it'll work at high levels or on full release so I don't have too much of an issue with it atm.

Moo.
>>1839045
>inb4 reddit spacing

Endgame will definitely have multiple bosses, that way the "unique: this card cannot be duplicates" effect actually matters

I refuse to play these fags and I pulled this fucking twink 3 times.

>>1839058
As if they just saw my post. They best present a banner that doesn't have these

>>1839058
Are you able to reroll or does the cbt not let you do that?

>>1839002
I mean, I'd like to know what my skills do BEFORE I actually use the card. I still have no clue what "wave" means for the blue haired girl's cards.
>>1839048
Mmmmmmmiiiiillllk

How fun Is the game and how many milfs are to roll those 2 are the only things I care in gacha games

>>1839080
Wave is those little bubbles under her health bar. When she builds up 3 (either passively from her upgrade card, or from cards that grant Wave.) she generates AP. I do agree there should be a way to view it outside of combat, this is just a temp solution

>>1839074
It's in settings

Anyone got the special death animations yet or was the beta portion too easy?

>>1839103
This guy
>>1838998
Clearly mentions it

I finished the story and went on to tell them in the survey that Mental Breakdowns feel a bit samey for how much they emphasized the gimmick. It'd be nice if they had a character function differently depending on the type of breakdown they suffer (ie "impulsiveness" or "charmed" makes them act on their own or something) because as of right now the bar filling up seems like the end all be all to the breakdown "system" (somewhat understandably so, with it cutting down 1/3 of your HP bar)

>>1839175
That extra stuff will prob be used as debuffs from enemies. i already seen enemies seal cards, increase costs, and even eat cards.
Plus the tutorial boss did "mental" attacks which targets stress.

>>1839175
>>1839194
Plus gameplay point says it's better to keep it enemy related instead of character related because it's gacha shit.

I was not invited to the beta but I've been watch a lot of the game. the stress management seems kinda bad and I can see it pissing a lot of people. it should be decreased to 3 or 4 cards and they should also provide some effects with positives and negatives.

>>1839281
darkest dungeon did stress management right

you just know that there will be a Partner version of this

>30 more free pulls
>Pull the same 2 fucking males I have already

>>1839287
isn't this an ml game? why does it have males other than the mc...

ml is for those that have a cuckoldry fetish and come up with insane scenario in their Seajeet brain, this a waifufag game.

>>1839294
You have some backwards logic.
>>1839291
idk if they called this an ML game, but the only game I've with ML is snowbreak

>>1839301
wtf is a ML game?

>>1805303 (OP)
Is this a gacha?
If yes how bad is it?
Does it even have gameplay?

>>1805769
The designs are clean
Looks a bit like ai sloppa but who doesnt use it these days?

>>1839306
It's a gacha, The gameplay is Slay the Spire. It uses a roguelike to generate "Save Stats" which you use for other content. You can repeat the roguelike mode with no limit.

>>1839305
"Master Love" is my guess, in snowbreak this means that all the girls are for (you) and even canonically marry/fuck your self-insert.

Those are all the ego skills of the girls I pulled. Won't do the men. I'd like to say that there are other full animated skills you can get, I know Mei Lin has an Ultimate card with a different animation but I need to unlock it. However I have to go back to the wage cage. If I manage to get it tonight I'll make a webm for it

>>1839313
out of the characters she's the one I like the most

>>1816346
Is she a dyke, fat, ugly, nigger or disabled?
Maybe vitiligo?
I don't see
She's prime breeding material

>>1839316
She hits like a train and has a lot of combo cards. Her ego skill just makes her attacks hit even harder, definitely think she'll be great end game.

>>1823689
Oh wow
Easy skip then

wasn't this game supposed to have a gear system similar to hoyo's? what happened to that

>>1839321
idk what hoyo does, but besides the roguelike. The gear system is more like a Partner system, you roll for partners who will buddy up with your characters. They provide passive stat bonuses, can use ego points to support in battle, and will frequently comment on the situation mid-battle and will sit down with your chibis at camp.

>>1839323
6 slot gear that you farm, different sets. RNG stats that upgrades with enhancements

>>1839323
>>1839324
apparently this was in the jp trial version that happened before the CBT

>>1839330
troll image

Just to know what's the player character backstory? Is it fleshed out like the late GF skk or is it still blend for now?

i saw videos showing that Kayron and Knife Girl can stack unlimited DoT which is insane. does anyone know if they bypass the element trinity?

>>1839344
it's your typical gacha bland self insert where none of the girls can breath without him

>>1839363
Based, I will now play your game

>>1839315
Thanks mate I appreciate it, usually there are ecelebs who make charactersultimate compilation for new gacha ggame, I only found the gacha animation.

>>1839369
it's a mixed toilet btw when pulling for your waifu you might get a dude instead

Here's the nun from mine

So I didn't get into the cbt.
Just wondering how the gameplay works.
Is this a game where you can have like 2-3 core characters and basically only focus on and use them?

>>1839383
mindbroke animation?

>>1839387
Yea, it's also like uma musume where you save the runs at the end of every run and use them for side stuff like story and farming stages. So prob better to focus all the rng buffs and equipment on one person.

>>1839394
Literally the nun they keep showing on the trailers when they do breakdown

Are the girls for (You)?

>>1839410
there are two breakdown animations, right?

>>1839426
Prob more for you than epic7 since (You) exist and actually "go out" with them

https://www.youtube.com/live/PKIgRw0RLH4?t=17758s
boss gameplay

>>1839444
the game looks fun but I'm sure that very cool combos will be gated behind character dupes and partners.

>>1839449
this. the dupes in this games looks way too strong even compared to hoyo counterparts.
>b-but its just a pve game

Game's gonna release in a couple of weeks. Haven't seen a single ad for the game tho.
>>1839313
She has the best animations it looks like

The PC client is pretty bad
>not a single keybind, you have to everything with the mouse
>the 2D art is all low res and looks pixelated even in 1440p
>same issue with most text and UI, they just didn't upscale anything
>no borderless window option
at least it runs smoothly I guess

>>1839536
are you saying that running the game on emulator will be better?

>>1839543
depends on what you mean by "better", you can't beat native PC performance but at least on emulator you'll be able to easily set keybinds

did anyone compile the effect of the partners in a doc? apparently one is literally pot of greed. god this will be ridiculous.

I hope whoever is responsible for this decision gets taken out back

Alright, finished chapter 2, story seems interesting. But it's a gacha game so I'm not gonna have high hopes.
Can anyone explain how epiphanies work? Do they only trigger during battle missions? I don't think I've been able to trigger them a single time after the tutorial.

>>1839560
epiphanies just proc randomly as far as I can tell, you'll get a card with a golden glow and when you play it you'll get a new enhanced card with 0 cost

>>1839560
They only trigger during roguelike modes.
>>1839551
That's the anti-reroll tactic.
>>1839550
Here's pot of greed, it's a 3 star partner

I've noticed Owen randomly throws an extra attack during rounds. Is that a passive or something?

>>1839563
>That's the anti-reroll tactic.
it's still there even in chapter 2 so you cannot skip anything you have to sit there and hold the fast forward button like a retard, what a baffling decision

>>1839563
>it's a 3 star partner
post one 5star partner. now I'm curious

pretty mixed on the game so far, if it really comes out next month I don't know if it's gonna be ready
>the 2D animations look fantastic overall, as expected
>the gameplay is fun, it's literally slay the spire after all, but it may lack depth in the long run with how small character decks are
>a few neat ideas like the ark city policy stuff and the affinity cutscenes being literal therapy sessions
>lots of tedium, no sweeping, already dozens of farming stages, a single chaos run can take more than 30 minutes
>the story is garbage, the MC may as well not exist, the other characters are bland, and past the tutorial the grimdark tone the game has been selling is completely gone
>the gacha is hoyo style character + weapon 50/50 because of fucking course it is, but the game seems especially stingy on top of that, you get less than 10 pulls for clearing an entire story chapter + battles chapter for instance
>needs more polish, the PC port lacks quite a few features, the assets aren't upscaled proprely, the localization has a lot of errors and the UI is off in some parts, also needs more tooltips for keywords

>>1839574
Here's the 5 star one

>>1839590
Sounds fantastic for discard decks.

>>1839593
sounds fantastic for every deck. hand recycle is always good regardless of what you are running.

>>1839594
Oh I misread it, yeah this is basically a draw 5 without using any action points.

>>1839595
they even made it a support card.
feels like that this is the type of partner that will give consistency for specific combos and playing without it will feel like shit.

How is damage calculated?
>character has an Attack stat of 200+
>character card say 112% damage
>enemy is of the same typing
>character only does 52 damage
Also, can someone explain how this card is used? I thought this card would automatically appear in your hand when you have vulture ejection but it doesn't appear to work that way.

>>1839664
Forgot card

>>1839665
If you have Vulture in your hand when you use Greatsword it comes back with cost 1 so you can use it again. You could probably set up some nasty combos with Mika giving you AP too...

>>1839665
It's not a float effect, it only works when you activate the card. The auto come back usually says "retrieve"

>>1839676
>>1839684
I see. Is picrel a bad epiphany?
Also, how is damage calculated?

>>1839665
it literally says defense based damage why are you using your attack stat

>>1839718
I wasn't talking about a specific character in the green. They're unrelated questions.

>>1839712
It's alright, best one is 2nd card because it keeps the 2 cost and gets retrieve.
But it's an rng game plus there are god bonus cards not shown.

>>1839563
>That's the anti-reroll tactic.
and why would you apply it? it wont stop rerollers but sure as hell piss off everyone
>>1839584
grim
Honestly i never had a good expectations from those subhuman devs, but i will give the game a chance

Is this text wrong? I'm retaining but it doesn't actually heal

Get God upgrade, it's the same card because healing will never go beyond 199% lmao.
>>1839767
Its that random healing that happens the moment you press end turn.

get fucked

>>1839775
>Triple Vulture
>One replicated, one Base, and one ult
This can't be chaos... What stage is this?

>>1839775
very sugoi

Someone finally compiled the ego animations, don't know why he added every other video of the game tho.
https://youtu.be/h1ijXNoMAiE

>https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/kr/list/141771?page=1
So, the Koreans really hate the MC because he’s too generic and hasn’t done anything for the girls in the main story. They also dislike AI images of the characters, and there are a lot of complaints about the game’s volume

>>1839825
Most of the complaints seem to be about the ui, deckbuilding, length of levels, etc.
The only complaint I found about the mc was someone asking for a female protos.

>>1839825
>image is AI
I hate this meme, artists have fucked up or art has been inconsistent since forever but only now to people say "muh AI"

>>1839829
You see, that's the main reason why 2D games are looked down on nowadays, because you will get these morons callings every 2D assets AI slops whether it's real or not.

killing the boss on turn 2 with beryl was pretty funny
so many cards I can't even hold them all

I wonder why they chose not to enforce a consistent artstyle this time around. Some of the characters really stick out, I don't remember it ever being this pronounced in Epic 7

>>1839835
Because hiring a good artist is expensive and AI is free.

i'm so confused this seems to be a "waifu" game but it also has males...

>>1839891
Furries and males are obligatory in Korean games.

>>1839891
they need characters you feel bad getting
but aside from that the game really isn't that much of a waifu game, the MC is a bland self insert with no personality and there are mostly female characters that you can kinda interact with but that's the extent of it

are the death animations like pic related actually in the game? I've lost a few times and every time the characters just kneel on the ground and then it's game over

so how's the game?

>>1839946
gameplay is fine while everything else smells like a shit and piss. at least for now

>60 more pulls on final day
>pull the faggot furry again
>3 fucking dupes
I'm just going to buy Chrono Ark.

Holy fuck attention whore

i just realize i rarely saw furry gameplay on youtube
everyone seems to have the OP Vanguard

>>1839901
They're there, they only show up in hardcore mode but the camera seems to be bugged for most of them
https://streamable.com/23hbc1
https://streamable.com/1ak4f1

It's finally over.

>>1839966
There's multiple vanguards. With how stress works, you're pretty much required to have one on the team.

>>1839968
nice, good to know they're in the game and weren't just trailer footage, even if they're bugged right now

Got the bear/lion chick last pull before shut down

>>1839901
Heres someone death animation with a generic mook

>>1839982
>the way he's just slowly sliding over and she goes from standing to dead in one frame
that's just comical

next dev update in October, so the game probably isn't releasing so soon

>>1839971
>End time: 2030
It's over...

>>1839985
this was the first CBT. stupid to expect that they were going to release the game anytime soon.
I'm giving it 6more months

>>1839974
out of all the characters I've pulled she seems to be the most bloated one. Who would've thought playing free 2/3 cost cards and retaining your entire hand would be strong?

>>1840035
Beryl seems similar, holding onto high cost cards and benefiting it. I wish I got to try them together, maybe in the future.

>>1839985
I wonder how much they are going to change in the october dev talk
please for the love of god change the gacha

>>1840088
Dropping the hoyo gacha feels like it would be the easiest slam dunk, but these are E7's devs we're talking about

>>1840102
>but these are E7's devs we're talking about
didnt they change the gacha for E7 before?

>>1840088
Brown Dust II has a gacha system that also expects players to get a bunch of dupes and weapons. However, they hand out rolls like candy, have higher SSR rates, and have a 200 roll pity system to boot. The 200 rolls don't get carried over, but instead are converted into a shop currency that lets you buy 1 copy of a character outright. They even have the previous banner character available for unlucky players.
Something similar to this would be perfect because even just randomly impulse rolling can get you something eventually.
I got literally everyone in that roster after just a year of playing.

So is a Defense based build viable? I tried to play it for a bit, was very slow but could hold its ground okay. Not as good as just unga unfortunately. Not sure how you're supposed to stack Defense in the first place.

from what ive seen and read, shields are the way to go compared to heals. with shields, if the enemy doesn’t bypass them, you wont take any “sanity” damage. With heals, you cant keep up with the sanity damage the enemy deals. heals only become comparable to shields once you get an upgrade that converts excess healing into shields.

[Chaos Zero Nightmare] About the Art Resources | Developer Commentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnmb_vyaNF8
they took the comment about the AI arts very seriously

>>1840462
go off random korean guy my king

>>1840471
TRVKE

>>1840471
i see the 15% issue fully killed any hold SG might have had on the gook market lmao

>>1840521
QRD?

>>1840471
Why do people hate this so much? I always preferred different artstyles because it keeps the game fresh. Single artstyle ends up samefacing too much too often, after a year all characters look the same and I stop wanting to roll more of them.

>>1840597
so I can avoid seeing creatures like >>1805303 (OP)

>>1840597
Some companies end up hiring shitters (see FGO or FEH for example) and if one of the artists ever leaves the game it can easily complicate things. This can be especially problematic for 3d games, which is probably why almost every 3d gacha I know seems to have either one artist or a unified art team.

>>1840647
Plus a unified team will easily avoid the forbidden Korean fingers that one comment mentioned.

Skins give me hope that characters that appeal to me gameplay wise but are not appealing visual wise will be redeemed eventually.

>not playable
such bullshit

>>1840462
Apparently it goes deeper than that, translating the subs at around the 16min mark they also talked about a potential internal sabotage with some illustrators sneaking in the dreaded finger pinching sign

>>1840756
one purge wasn't enough huh

>>1840756
>the 16min mark they also talked about a potential internal sabotage with some illustrators sneaking in the dreaded finger pinching sign
what the fuck is wrong with koreans

>>1840756
you cant make this shit up

>>1840758
they have feminists that put the rest of the world to shame

>>1805303 (OP)
They made a game about my goat?

>>1840755
>these are not playable but the big furry wolf is a 5*

>>1840462
I'm surprised how hard the gooks are going in the comments. Tons of criticism regarding the art and story. All deserved though.

>>1840758
it's their equivalent of americans seething about lgbt

>>1840462
man Koreans are based

>>1841255
koreans and chinks actually hold their corpos accountable, while japs slurp and westards cry eos every day but keep slurping, the worst of both worlds

>>1841256
Maybe i should try chrono ark after all...

>>1841285
it's the best card battler out there

>>1841285
I say wait for a sale. It's very good, but it's pricey compared to other games on Steam.
On that note, they should really add a standby function that would force enemies to act faster like Chrono Ark.

>>1841255
Trickcal devs were right, there's way too many grimslop games on the market.

I'm back from seething after >>1838133 happened. I'll give the game another go on release.
Thinking back on it, the bug I experienced could have been an enemy that only takes damage on the 1st turn. What a shitty design if that's the case.
When the full game releases we shouldn't pull on the standard banner regardless of how good the starting 5* roster is
We're all gonna fail 50/50s on limited banners and end up with Hugo dupes, so might as well not pull on the banner specifically made to pull the same units you'll be pissed at seeing over and over again

>>1841285
If you care about 2huslop theres an animu roguelike deck builder named Touhou Lost Branch of Legend on steam which is basically slay the spire with toehoes and MTG energy system with some really cool synergies/interactions

>>1839958
>Hugo claimed another victim
Can't blame the devs for going after the lucrative furry fanbase, but I'd love it if there was a ban list or something to ensure you couldn't pull specific units
Kinda like a reverse wishlist
If you have a Switch and are willing to wait until late January then check out the recently announced Chrono Ark limited physical edition that comes with both DLCs and an artbook all for $35

>>1841608
>Chrono Ark limited physical edition
wish they'd just release their next game already

>>1841256
I hope the KR and JP backlash is loud enough that the studio course corrects
The game is fun, but everything outside the gameplay and art direction drags it down
Even if they can't change the main story, they can at least make sure the event stories we get are great
>westards cry eos every day but keep slurping, the worst of both worlds
Like that infamous screenshot of a Steam boycott group where 80% of the members were playing the game they're supposedly boycotting

>>1841596
amiami preorder has a lucy keychain too iirc

I'm so fucking excited for this game I really hope it comes out soon...
I'm gonna build the strongest beryl on planet earth

>>1840792
>>1840756
The mental illness required to actually care about this shit is unsettling
Imagine being so terrified of a finger gesture you reach so hard to see it everywhere

Chrono Ark, just like Etrian Odyssey, has the problem of the combat UI. The fact you are at an angle observing both your units and the enemy is preferable in CZN to a psuedo first person perspective where your characters are just blocks at the bottom. Any CZN needs to revisit their monetisation and upgrade economy.

>>1842120
>Etrian Odyssey
It's GOAT of dungeon crawlers tho, and pretty much every game in that genre does this
>The fact you are at an angle observing both your units and the enemy is preferable in CZN
Characters are the main source of revenue for CZN, they needed the game to show them off as much as possible even if that costs WAY more than just having the character portraits at the bottom of the screen

>>1842119
that gesture is literally a gang sign of their deranged feminist group and it's a good thing they notice it so they can cleanse their entertainment industry of it

>>1842120
I do agree that sideview in both games would improve them immensely over the first person approach, at least in combat.

>>1842171
As far as I know majority of them just does it to troll, not out of genuine hate. Which is based and hilarious. Imagine developing schizophrenia over two fingers.

so true xis