Thread 11791943

-Adel boss fight
-Ultimecia castle (best dungeon in the franchise)
-Omega weapon
-Ultimecia boss fight (best final fight in the franchise)
-Maybe i'm a lion
-the ending cutscene
-eyes on me
-the credits

what an amazing game

>>11791943 (OP)
>*breaks all of your incomplete quests*
nothin' personnel, SeeDs

How you react if Ultimecia was your girlfriend?

Selphie = best girl
Rinoa = worst girl

>>11791948
I hated this shit from the PSX FFs, even star ocean did this. Annoying and unnecessary

Best FF no contest, only tastelets and brainlets deny
The only FF i can finish multiple times and have a great time start to finish

>>11791943 (OP)
>still has unfinished quests
>proceeds to the final stage anyway
>didn't have a backup save

ISHYGDDT

>>11791943 (OP)
I literally quit right at the start of CD4, understood nothing about the junction system and spent the entire game trying to stay alive only for Abel to nuke me effortlessly, forcing me to figure how the junction system worked, destroyed Abel on the first try, then got to the final castle where they took away all abilities. I'll replay the game eventually, original or remaster? Also why.

>>11791943 (OP)
>its such an amazing game that we need constant threads to gaslight/annoy the board
>best game everrrrrr!
>if you don't like it you have no taste
Reeks of insecurity, man.

>>11792547
Cope. Best FF.

>>11791943 (OP)
More like "GUYS on me" because you're fucking gay

>>11791943 (OP)
Playing through this right now. Beat disc 1.
>Only dungeon so far has been the one with Brothers in it
>Zero character development for any character outside of "Quistis promoted Seifer to captain and was immediately fired for incompetence."
>no loot
>no reason to explore
>one of my first GFs allowed me to turn cheap tents into several curagas, quadrupling my health
>leveling up is strangely very quick, but also not rewarding
>no mana cost for Summons so battles are just "Squall crits for way too much damage and someone else spams a summon"

So far this game is incredibly boring. Disc 2 has had some harder bosses that would have wiped me had I not used those curagas, but knowing that there is nothing to look for in the game aside from GFs and those are usually found in important battles means I have nothing to look forward to for the entire game. The story really is just events that happen and that is not exciting or engaging.

>>11792604
DESU, FFIX did feel like a wet fart compared to the previous entries. X was the last time FF felt like it.

>>11792605
>knowing that there is nothing to look for in the game aside from GFs and those are usually found in important battles
Not true. Also if you're spamming GFs you're playing the game in a boring, not particularly effective way. It's a pretty easy game no matter what you do, so there's no reason to watch those animations more than once.

>>11791948
>>11791969
Whatever.

>>11792605
In other words you've probably missed tons of shit already.

>>11791943 (OP)
VIII part 2 and PSIV remake on Super Switch?

>>11792527
>I'll replay the game eventually, original or remaster? Also why.

Original (on a PS2 with fast loading enabled)

The remaster is awfull (shitty "qol" feature that destroy the balance of the game,ugly new models,menus are in 30 FPS unlike the original 60 making limit break harder to pull of...)

>>11792928
>“No, that is not true,” Kitase said, laughing. “I think he was actually stabbed around the shoulder area, so he was not dead. But that is a very interesting idea, so if we ever do make a remake of Final Fantasy VIII, I might go along with that story in mind.”

Oh god i hope a sequel/remake never happen

The original creators have become seniles

>>11791948
Save intelligently then and keep multiple saves.

>>11792958
At this point I'd want to see one just to see how badly they would fuck it up.

Time Compression is fucking stupid.

>>11792940
>menus are in 30 FPS unlike the original 60 making limit break harder to pull of...
That I didn't know about. How incompetent

>>11792527
Don't worry, FF VIII is full of half baked ideas that could have been great if they stayed in the oven a bit longer.
This anon >>11792940 explained it well but I want to add that the original version on steam (they have the original and remastered) is also awful and probably even worst than the remaster because of the awful music (unless you want to mod the PS1 music).
>>11792605
>leveling up is strangely very quick, but also not rewarding
Don't worry the game technically punish you for leveling up, the junction system is the only real thing that will increase your stats in any significant way.
>no loot
>no reason to explore
Access to some higher level magic earlier.

>>11791943 (OP)
Too bad the Celine Dion song was not needed and they use it twice, what's wrong with the Japanese

>>11791943 (OP)
>-Adel boss fight
It should've been the final fight of disc 3 to follow the pattern of discs ending in sorceress battles, but had to be awkwardly placed at the beginning of disc 4 due to size issues. So no this is not evidence of the "perfection" of disc 4.

Omega Weapon is always level 100 so leveling up is usefull against him (not in the PC/Remastered version though)

Wait until you have all the stats bonus ability then farm XP in the 2 islands (hell and heaven)

>>11793060
It's a flaw of CD3 not the 4

>>11793061
>Omega Weapon
To be fair I never fought Omega weapon, by the time I arrived at the final dungeon I just wanted the game to end.

>Wait until you have all the stats bonus ability then farm XP in the 2 islands (hell and heaven)
Yeah, that also helps a lot but it's pretty late in the game

>>11793023
>Don't worry the game technically punish you for leveling up
Not really. It just gives you
>Access to some higher level magic earlier.

-the best summons
-the best limit break
-the best dungeon
-the best ending
-the best mini game
-the best character (Laguna)
-the most unique and innovative gameplay

It's hard to not love this game when it's the peak of so many thing in Final fantasy

>>11792527
Remaster upgraded the character models but just did the vaseline smudge thing for the backgrounds and inexplicably doesn't offer force feedback even on consoles. If it's your only option it's not unplayable but it sure as fuck wasn't an improvement. Original is the best option. Also

>not learning the junction system until disk 4

So you were like 12 years old at the time, right? Please tell me you weren't getting filtered by the junction system when you were a legal adult. That would be embarrassing

Even people who hate FF8 (non-retards) will usually admit that the music is pretty kewl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeScjOTYl7g

>>11792605
>understands the game mechanics well enough to refine items for junctioning
>still spams summons anyway

NGMI

>>11793132
Well, yes, Uematsu never fails to please.

The Final Fantasy community is so big and usually smart, so I don't get why fans haven't remade Final Fantasy engines from the ground-up especially the PS1 ones, in order to expand them or remake them. A remake of FF8 could actually turn it into a good game

>>11793258
It's already a good game and plenty of people already like it. Why would people put forth that amount of effort to make people who don't like it happy? Just go play something you like.

"Learning how" the Junction system worked is
• easy
• obvious
• rewarding
• irrelevant

>>11792990
Explain the black hole and white hole?

>>11791943 (OP)
>The "Random" rule has spread throughout this region.

>>11793432
*holds up spork*

>>11793427
Time compression is fucking stupid.

>>11792975
but this just results in bifurcated progress on separate save games

>>11793432
>Decide to play Edea
>dunno what the orphanage rule set is
>I just won't mix rules at all to be safe
>Random
>Same
>Elemetnal
>Plus
>Same Wall

>>11793357
>tfw didn't get Siren during the tutorial
>only time you get her later is at the end of the game

>>11791943 (OP)
>-Adel boss fight

That's Disc 3.

>>11793432
The virgin retard cries about the random rule
The smart man abolishes the random rule in the entire world while spreading the win: all rule at the same time
The chad doesn't give a fuck, plays with Random, Same Wall, Plus and then some, and still wins.

>>11792605
If that's all you got from characterization, then you have absolutely no ability to read between the lines.

Seifer is reckless and chases a romantic ideal image of himself

Quistis has an inferiority complex that is compounded by being told she's not cut out for leadership by the Garden

Selphie is a consummate optimist and while making friends easily, she only trusts and supports a close unit

Rinoa has romantic ideals about fighting for change, but doesn't really understand the reality of the commitment that requires until she starts to pay attention to and fall for Squall.

Zell is a good natured idiot who relies on the power of his will to bail him out of the problems his loud mouth causes.

Squall fervently believes that one should commit to squaring their own shit away. After all, people can leave you at a moments notice, so you should only rely on yourself.

That's not even the entirety of disc one.

>>11794260
What about Irvine?

>>11794267
High Plains Weenie

A game that requires multiple optical discs on the platform for which it was originally designed is a failure.

>>11794289
Technology was on the brink of that ever-elusive 'file kompression'.

>>11794267
He's gay and uses a gun to compensate for his failed masculinity.

>>11791943 (OP)
It was okay. It’s the most recent FF I could stomach finishing. Criminally bland characters and completely unbalanced in favor of the player, but if you like to tinker and steamroll it certainly gives you the tools to do that.

>>11794289
It just made it cooler.

>>11794289
Fear Effect's still the most hilarious example of this for me. Every single background in the game is an FMV so the whole game is on 4 discs, even though you can beat each disc in like 30 minutes. I've never seen a game give less of a fuck.

>>11793109
Ok, froggy. So how Konami doing?

>>11794289
But the CGI videos...

>>11793132
FF8 has great music, who he hell ever said otherwise?

>>11794515
>>11793132
Fact

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay1Pg9s62yc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWOIjR9IdX0

>>11794293
Guns for pussy.

>>11793107
laguna is a retarded shitter

other than that I agree
>>11791943 (OP)
dont forget about all the ultra kino hidden GF quests. the ending of VIII really is the best part of the whole series. where as the end of IX is completely forgettable mush

SSS: VII, VIII
S: VI, X
A: V, IX
B: I, IV
Dont even bother: II, III, XII

I hated the thing where you mash a button during a summon. It was a cool idea before rpgs realized that skipping very long animations was good idea, but still really annoying.

>>11795000
I like it

Make summons less redundant and more interactive+risk/rewards mechanic

>>11794697
fpbp

>>11793953
kek

>>11794128
>The smart man abolishes the random rule in the entire world while spreading the win: all rule at the same time

I autistically abolished the random rule worldwide through RNG manipulation once just to finally complete the QOC quest and honestly unless you're determined to see every card in game it's really not worth the effort. The later cards do make for stupid powerful item refinements but you can break the game into a thousand pieces in so many ways these are just extra icing on the cake. It's doable, but it's a pain in the ass.

And I encourage people to avoid the all rule. Opinions vary on this but some people will tell you that the all rule degenerates into the direct rule, which is just pure fucking cancer. I myself absolutely believe this because I've had it go from all to direct on me multiple times which could just be coincidence but I have NEVER had it go from diff to direct. If diff deteriorates it always changes to one, which isn't great but infinitely better than direct, which, again, is just the absolute fucking worst thing that can happen. Better to spread random than end up with the direct rule. And since you're most likely blowing people away and winning every hand by multiple points the diff rule ends up being very close to the all rule in terms of card acquisition with none of the liability. I routinely cleaned out people's entire hands with the diff rule and I go entire playthroughs without playing one hand under the direct rule. Just stick with the diff / one / back to diff cycle

I really like her design, it feels like a throwback to the NES era villains.

>>11795890
That why "FF7" is not really Final Fantasy

>>11792940
im playing the original on my ps vita slim. is that good?

>>11791969
Nope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa5gcYA8xf8

>>11797328
>description mentions Rinoa = Ultimecia
What is it about that ridiculous theory that caught on with fans? Reminds me of the outrageous headcanons you see on Evageeks.

>>11797357
There channel name Evageeks?

>>11797357
because it is one of the only fan theories that is as plausible as the canon

>>11797430
It's literally not plausible at all

>>11797430
It’s actually plausible as two lead writers was involved.

>>11794290
>>11792990
One shot it

>>11798250
Boobs are fun.

>>11794121
Based retard

>>11797458
kek

>>11793258
But gayer unlike Phantasy Star and Dragon Quest chads

>>11792958
He seethe by mere mentions of Rinoa is Ultimecia topic

Rinoa is Ultimecia > Actual FF8 Plot > Squall is Dead

>>11793082
You get half a point, if you level up high enough in disc 1 you can't get the lion heart early in the game and if you ignore the junction system the enemies can fuck you up.
However that's only a problem if you are playing for the first time and don't know how FF viii works

>>11793258
>the FF community is smart
LMAO

>>11793258
It would be pretty easy to actually generate new content for the pre-rendered Final Fantasy games using AI art + digital touch ups to make pre-rendered backgrounds. Yes, AI art is slop with errors, but it'd get someone 90% of the way there and they'd just have to touch up the errors in the image.

Is there anything I'm missing? You could even potentially commission basic sketches of the layout for a room, put it through an AI art generator, then touch up a bit instead of raw-dogging it just with prompts.

>>11801880
AI art is for fucking indians, no matter how much you "touch up the errors"

>>11801884
Seething inkcel

>>11801880
I hadn't even thought of that. There's an FF7 modder who's been remaking every background art by hand - remodelling everything and then taking a picture - ridiculous project and of course he's been doing it for years and is only at like 20%. but I wonder if AI couldn't just do the work in seconds now

>>11801884
dipshit, it isn't creating new art, AI can touch up pre-existing low res art.

>>11801884
Also same Netflix hired diversity who bastardized Castlevania and DMC