DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>11859525

Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etc
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/GENERAL GUIDE
https://rentry.org/vrbin

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQ
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

== GAMES/RESOURCES ==
DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU

PortaDOOM:
https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
HALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:
https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:
https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

Assorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

MIDI COLLECTIONS
https://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.zip
https://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQ
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009
https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
https://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/

MODDING RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37
https://realm667.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==
THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/

OUR WADS/MODS
https://rentry.org/vrdepot

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE/WAD DATABASE
https://vrdoom.booru.org/
https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/

MULTIPLAYER SERVERS
US West: https://clovr.xyz/
CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
Duke It Out in /vr/
Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026
Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/qns3f9.zip
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
/Vertex Relocation/
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : Boom
RC3: https://files.catbox.moe/aoucg0.7z

=== NEWS ===
[7-12] Dead Sea Scrolls released
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4054

[7-08] Source code to Hexen Hack Editor
https://github.com/snemarch/HexenHackEditor/

[7-08] Colourful Hell updated to v1.04
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1261371

[7-06] Quake Injector v7 RC1 update
https://discuss.quaddicted.com/t/8079

[7-03] DBP74: Phantom Processing is out now!
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4043

[6-30] '95 Never Dies (finally) released
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154000

[6-27] So You Want to Start a Community Project: a guide
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/153916

[6-25] Skulltiverse II, MBF21 project is open for submissions
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/153925

[6-22] Dimension Zero by Kurt Kesler and Chris Hansen
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/152284

[6-19] Quake 2 Remaster N64 Jam II announced (on discord)
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11811558

[6-17] Drake O'Brien Ovational Megawad released
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/153776

[6-17] Combustion by Fiendish
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/153768

[6-14] Duke Nukem Advance has a PC port in the works
https://moddb.com/mods/duke-nukem-advance-tc

[6-11] Doom 2 Minus Doom released
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/153656

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)

>>11871372
>for /vertex relocation/ lead
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11841415 MAP15 update #1 https://files.catbox.moe/chmy99.wad
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11842568 MAP08 update #1
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11853996 MAP08 update #2 https://files.catbox.moe/8zgy8w.wad
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11867705 MAP08 3-SAT document https://files.catbox.moe/ei2pw8.pdf

I notice in Quake 2 that my movement stutters whenever I narrowly dodge enemy projectiles. It's like a quarter-second freeze every time one passes by, and it's most noticeable with Super Tank rockets. Why? I'm using Yamagi, so I don't know if it's a port specific thing.

> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <

We did Scythe MAP23 four threads ago, time to do Scythe 2 MAP23 "Whispering Winds"!

Respond with UV Max demo and include your time in the post. My demo in 38:31 https://files.catbox.moe/8f149f.lmp

Records and map download: https://dsdarchive.com/wads/scythe2?level=Map+23

This map has everything shooting at you and little safe space to hide in. When someone mentioned "windows as encoutner design element" it was the first map that came to my mind. Be warned that you can't backtrack after you jump in the hole to the last fight, your kill count should be at least 347 at that stage. Or 349 if you cheese the last two evil marines. Res'd chaingunners in the tower before the hole can be stuck and not be shooting at you and so are easy to miss. Good luck, if I can do this, you can too!

Previous thread challenge winner: Vanguard MAP09 UV Max in 6:06 >>11862146
For Aniki challenge we got demos for maps 1,2,3,7,16!

>>11871375
I think I put them in last time, what the hell is this PDF?

Anyway, I got kinda thrown off, if I can't properly test everything by the end of the week, I will post it as is, it should work.

>>11871402
Amazing map, I'm not submitting a demo though. It's a brutal gantlet

>>11871430
> what the hell is this PDF?
it's a paper that MAP08 author wrote

previous vertex relocation maintainer included it in release archives so I guess you should too

>>11871445
pottery

>>11871445
>finally rats black
>sandy let mods beat demons
>level probably long
>free duke
>gzdoom uv-max changes
>jojo boy help
>persona special lol

>>11871454
>free duke

Hmm.

>>11871451
I will beat a rod till a tank empties.

>>11871445
>sin dick
>skillsaw ugly
>caleb gets existing release man
>always need games
And my personal favorites:
>actual ass
>obvious bullshit

>>11871445
Happy late birthday Aniki.

>>11871430
>>11871438
said author here. please do. it's not super different from the previous version, mostly just an updated screenshot and minor fixes, but still. the look of the "display" is very different now
also I threw my back out earlier today. hurts like hell

>>11871478
oh and I see you didn't catch the final version of it that implements said change. makes the "device" much more user friendly

>>11871483
Which one is the latest. I checked my downloads and 8zgy8w is the one I downloaded and extracted map from.

>>11871491
8zgy8w.wad, sha1sum d9705eb27a783fd340a9a8a28493d3748d46e67d

>>11871402
that's a spicy one
https://files.catbox.moe/5n1c3v.lmp
here's a 25:10 demo I recorded about a month ago, might do another one just for the challenge but it is a very long level lol

>>11871491
also I just double-checked vx_reloc_rc3.wad (sha1sum a8995c81686deb80154ebd067ba8a6b208c29a29) and it uses an older version

>>11871517
>>11871506
I don't have anything to calculate SHA1 and too tired to go looking, but this sounds about right.

>>11871518
yeah just making it very clear which files I'm testing so there's no mixups

>>11871454
>>11871457
There's no freeing duke, he's trapped in the shadow of DN3D and he'll never escape it.
Alien world order was pretty good though.

>>11871368 (OP)
I totally forgot about this image, its awesome.

>>11871445
>faggot intended
>late god
>enemies lost guns
>anon guy little lmao

>>11871454
>sandy let mods beat demons

>>11871516
gg
Your play style is generally more risky than mine, but i see you've found a few cheeses that I didn't.
The red bastard stabbing you in the back after you dealt with the mastermind is funny

>>11871540
I haven't played it yet. I'm playing Alien Armageddon when I can later though.

>>11870419
I hope this is the archive you wanted, anon.
> https://files.catbox.moe/fjgbpp.zip

>>11871540
DN3D is the best Duke anyway. I'm hoping that the developers are up to something next year when it's Duke's 30th anniversary. New remaster with 6th episode as good as Alien World Order and vault with playable protodukes and lamedukes would be neat, like with Doom and Quake remasters. One can only dream. Too bad Randy is retarded and doesn't want easy money.

>>11871608
I felt Alien Armageddon was best when it was just a 1 new episode with cool new enemies and few new weapons. I feel it went overboard by adding all that rpg stuff, high res sprites and such. Luckily you can still get the old versions on moddb.

Hey kids, it's time for anon to seethe at Doom's color palette again!

>WHY THE FUCK IS THE RED RANGE SO FUCKING LONG AND FULL OF GRADIENTS?
>IT EVEN HAS BRIGHTS TRANSITIONING TOWARDS WHITE, BUT THEN STOPS REALLY SHORT FROM A TRULY DARK RED!
>WHY ARE THERE SO MANY DUPLICATES/ALMOST DUPLICATES ON THE RED RANGE?
>WHY DOES DARKER END OF THE PALE RED RAMP LOOK ALMOST INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM THE REGULAR RED?
>WHY DOES THE GREEN RANGE JUST STOP ABRUPTLY LIKE THIS?
>WHY IS THERE A PURE BRIGHT WHITE DEFINED FOUR SEPARATE TIMES ON THE PALETTE? THEY KNEW NOT TO DO ONE FOR THE BLUE RANGE!
>THERE'S A BUNCH OF ALMOST INDISTINGUISHABLE SHADES ON THE DARK BLUE RANGE TOO!
>WE COULD HAVE HAD A LONGER OLIVE GREEN RANGE AND A NOT-SHIT PURPLE RANGE IF THIS PALETTE HAD BEEN PLANNED BETTER!

Thank you. I'll get over this later once I've figured out how to work around this particular range of colors.

>>11871719
because you touch yourself at night

>>11871726
I touched myself earlier, not at night.

>>11871729
Nta but it's night here and I've already touched myself two times.

>>11871736
this one right here boys

>>11871719
The only colors that matter are those needed to depict HELL

I posted a while ago about burning out on eviternity 2 for a while after beating map24, the one with the giant warship
Went back to it and found a pretty cool custom boss fight on the next map that thoroughly impressed me.
I'm not gonna blogpost, but it was remarkably well designed, and the fight doesn't drag out, it's just difficult until you learn the quirks of the boss. You still have to deal with a mob of enemies accompanying him that he likes to resurrect, but it doesn't drag itself out or bullshit you.

>>11871787
It was refreshing that it avoids the usual foibles with custom bosses being absolute slogs so much that I basically killed him before I actually saw anything he did.

>>11871719
You can pretty much entirely get rid of 8 of the browns and replace them with a whole other color too. It's almost unnoticeable.
But then you have to remap all the things that use those browns to the other browns color and include all the sprites etc. In your wad. Not terribly clean, but it's what wads like BTSX do to change the palette drastically.

>>11872021
I know, so it's not worth it, that shit multiplies other work by magnitudes.

gib wad

Post some skillful gameplay

>>11872057
Got you covered buddy.

>>11872029
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2211

>>11872062
>linking to a Doomer Board thread for a /vr/ wad
That's some human centipede shit right there.

>>11872062
danke

>>11872067
Doomworld won't let us host it there.

>>11872057

>>11872079
>russian homm gameplay w/ that one specific portrait
we know its you, eggplant

>>11872079
wtf that game was an FPS?

>>11872061

>>11872083
>homm

>>11872078
Maybe one day one of our lads will run a wad site, maybe it'll be called UpWads or something.

>>11872097
It did untold damage to Might & Magic by overtaking it as a series.

>>11872106
That didn't exist in 2021.

>>11872078
Why not? It celebrates the life of a working class bisexual man.

>>11872106
Nothing much, up wads with you?

>>11872061
literally me

>>11872079
Fire piss!

>>11872062
>>11872067
we have our own suppository of wads dammit

>>11872167
I think the term is repository anon...

>>11871368 (OP)

>>11859525

Retro FPS compilation: https://archive.org/details/retro-first-person-shooter-compilation


Doom, Heretic And Hexen Commercial Compilations v2.1 (v2.5 coming soon, will update once out) - https://archive.org/details/doom-heretic-and-hexen-commercial-compilations-v2.1

xash3d-fwgs with hl/opfor/bs set up and ready for use in winxp - https://archive.org/details/xash3d-fwgs-hl-opfor-bs-winxp-v1

/idgames2 mirror - https://archive.org/details/idgames-2-archive

/unreal mirror - https://archive.org/details/unreal-archive-files

/idgames archive 2025-07-14 - https://archive.org/details/idgames-archive-2025-07-14

FYI - if downloading from archive.org use jdownloader - https://jdownloader.org/ You can copy the url (e.g https://archive.org/details/idgames-2-archive
) and paste it into jdownloader and have it download all the files easily.

>>11872087
>first-person action
>common roots with dungeon crawlers
>futuristic weapons
>mugshots as the focal hud design part
>doom items having their magic equivalents
>invasion of what is said to be an hellish force
Doom is a spin-off to Might & Magic, which also takes place on one of the Ancient-created nacelle planets, now being infested by Kreegans. You may now finally realise that the Doomguy is in fact a resilient android type made for specific purpose of containing invasive Kreegan forces accross all existing planes with the help of Planetary-Warp-Astro-Displacer portable device (also known as PWAD) and directly accessed through Source Port human interfaces. Things went bad when we stopped precisely follow the uv-max directive, which led to unrecoverable accumulation of so-called "slaughter" hostile dimensions. Situation is grave and is only going to get progressively worse.

>>11872134
IIRC, Its because of "Faggot" being in the title, even if a censored version was made.
Though as far as I'm aware (could be wrong), its the only /vr/ project that Doomworld explicitly didn't allow.

>>11872395
Fraggot is blacklisted on doomshack, haven't tried huffem

Is Amid Evil worth playing, or style over substance?

>>11872463
I thought it was good.

>>11872463
It is worth playing, but it's not retro.

>>11872463
I didn't like it too much. It's more similar to Serious Sam than Quake and I don't really like SS that much.
Why don't you pirate it and try it out instead of asking?
Also obligatory:
>not retro

>>11872463
Played it six years ago, never touched the DLC.

>Fun use of PBR materials even on the weapon sprites
>Enemy roster is unique between episodes but kind of hamstrung
>Probably on the better end of fake retro shooters when games like Boltgun don't really do anything special
>Made in NZ
>Not retro

>>11872510
>Amid Evil
>It's more similar to Serious Sam than Quake
It felt even less like Serious Sam to me, what are you on?

isn't it weird how duke is like combining the words doom and quake and that it's 2d but 3d? crazy stuff

>>11872546
>S + M1
To me that's SS. I admit I haven't played much of SS but I did finish AE, just not the DLC.
They weapons just don't feel good and punchy on AE, the best one is the ice mace but even that is kind of meh...
I want to say the problem is that the enemies don't seem to react to getting shot but this also happens in pretty much all games discussed here and it isn't a problem on them. I don't know, I don't like how AE feels.

>>11872561
S+M1 is not the be all end all to Serious Sam combat. You will die if that's the only thing you do. The game is more like tug-of-war where you're fighting for control of the battlefield. You need to push forward aggressively sometimes so that you have plenty of room to retreat. Also proper strafing is way more important than running backwards.

>>11872557

>>11872569
Then my comparison was bad but I think I explained it better in my previous post.
I won't argue SS, as I said I haven't played that much of it.

>make doom
>make doom 2
>make ultimate doom
>beat it
>"next up, hell on earth!"
Was D2 not widely available before UD or something? Kind of fucking weird for them to release a D1 expac after the second game is already out and then act like you need to play D2 when you might've already played it.

>>11872596
>Was D2 not widely available before UD or something?
IIRC, Registered Doom was originally only obtainable through mail order. Ultimate's release was to bring the full version of Doom 1 to retailers, with a bonus episode added.
Doom 2 was available through retailers from the start.

people were talking about how Doom II was made from leftovers from Doom I and i always thought it was interesting that a lot of the unused music was recycled for II. you can even hear Waiting for Romero to Play in that pre-release video of Doom I.

It's interesting that Crumpets 2 wasn't mentioned at all in the last Cacowards, unlike the first one that got a runner-up. I thought it was obligatory that anything Ribbiks releases gets awarded.

>>11872620
>Doom 2 was available through retailers from the start.
That's the thing though, if the sequel was available in retail, then why bother releasing an expanded version of the original game with a wink and nod of encouraging you to play the sequel? I'd almost understand if the original was some obscure game in a series that didn't hit big until the sequel, and they were trying to capitalize on marketing something most people hadn't played yet, but I'd imagine 90% of people who knew about D2 had either played or heard of D1. DOOM was fucking huge well before D2 came out. It's just an odd situation. IMO, the actual reason they did it is because D2 didn't sell as well as they had hoped, and they knew everybody loved D1, so it was a quick attempt to give people more of what they wanted. This is backed up by the fact that D1 sold 3.5m copies (putting aside the bajillion computers it was installed onto at schools/office buildings or the fact tons of people were just playing the shareware episode), and yet D2 sold almost exactly half as much.

>>11872701
>D1 sold 3.5m copies (putting aside the bajillion computers it was installed onto at schools/office buildings or the fact tons of people were just playing the shareware episode), and yet D2 sold almost exactly half as much.

Are those sales figures from the 90s, or are they modern numbers? Does that include console ports? Because honestly I think you can trust sales figures for videogames as much as you can trust Israeli kill counts. The stats are always whack.

Like, you really gotta understand, the internet was a niche, niche, niche thing back then; Doom was a huge killer app for PCs, but it was still obscure and fringe by today's standards. Basically everyone who had the original Doom in 1993, only had the shareware version, and they only got that from some magazine cover disk or some shit like that.

Ultimate Doom is the one everyone has as their copy of full Doom. That version will be the one that pushed it to 3.5m. There is absolutely no way on this earth that they sold 3.5m copies of a game through fucking mail order. They absolutely did not have that poor receptionist girl processing 10,000 mail order checks per day. It just did not happen.

Retail sails and console ports have to account for a huge proportion of that number.

>>11872701
>then why bother releasing an expanded version of the original game with a wink and nod of encouraging you to play the sequel?
Because prior to the expanded version, the full version of 1 wasn't available at retailers, as I already mentioned. And considering E4 was made part of Doom 1, it wouldn't make sense to set it after 2.
>DOOM was fucking huge well before D2 came out.
Most of Doom 1's success prior to Ultimate was through the shareware version, which was much more widely available.

>3.5M copies
I'm pretty sure those numbers are combining the sales of registered with ultimate, and achieved much later.

>next weapon - mwheelup
>previous weapon - mwheeldown

or

>next weapon - mwheeldown
>previous weapon - mwheelup

Which way, /vr/ man

>>11873065
Next weapon - mwheelup
Prev weapon - mwheeldown

That way feels the most natural to me, seeing as you're scrolling up/forward to ascend through your list of weapons.

>>11873065
The former.
Up for stronger guns, always. It's only logical.

>>11873071
Well, possible exception for games that display them on-screen in reverse order. But I do so begrudgingly.

>>11873065
I'm a next on down guy, blame Half-Life, that was the first shooter I played with a mouse that had a scroll wheel.

>>11873065
I use the number keys

>>11872203
I'll add some links that I use

Untouched dos installers of tnt, plutonia, doom2:
https://iddqd.ru/old

doom1, all versions:
https://archive.org/details/doom-reg

Damn I love Doom.
Feels good man.

>>11871368 (OP)
What is the recommended quake port these days? The quake pastebin hasn't been updated since 2020 and youtube video is from 2019. Is quakespasm spiked the best option still?

>>11873131
Use Ironwail or vkQuake.

>>11872112
It's not 2025.
>>11872167
That explains Cyb's Freaky Colonoscopy.

>>11871402
I don't think I want to replay this map any time soon, so I'll post my old demo from a couple of months ago.
UV max in 19:39
https://files.catbox.moe/nm5d56.lmp

>>11872737
>and they only got that from some magazine cover disk or some shit like that.
Bitches don't know bout my BBS.

>>11873065
Most of the time:
>mwheelup - pistol
>mwheeldown - shotgun

>>11873208

Bitches absolutely do know about your BBS, that's what I meant by "internet", a BBS is still internet, just pre-WWW internet. The point is that maybe 5-10% of people playing Doom in '93-94 got it from the BBS, and that's being very generous.

>>11872078
Based

>>11873065
I feel like Next on Down was just the standard in the time period I got into games, which mainly started with the original Far Cry on my Dad's PC. And I just think about it in terms of how you read text, left -> right and then up -> down. Up is the starting position and you proceed by going down.

>>11873328
Fag. And not in the cool sense.

>>11871368 (OP)
imagine if final doomer had a mod where you randomized the weapons in each slot, from different arsenals
or a mode where every time you change a map, you change arsenal
or the two combined, where every map you finished, you get a different arsenal still composed of randomized weapons from different arsenals

>>11873395
These exist, the dude who did the Deus Ex mods did them.

Whatsthat doom mod with the shave cream

Is Quake Champions worth playing even a little bit?

>>11873447
I'm going to guess no

Is the ZDoom forum and wiki down for everybody? Shit's been fucked for me for days.

>>11873468
Works on my machine

https://www.youtube.com/@TimeOfDeath/videos

>playing through entire idgames archive
Is this autism?

>>11873447
QL is better by any standard.

I do wonder if there will be a Q3 remaster soon.

>>11871402
Great map.

>>11871368 (OP)

Ken Silverman has always confused me. Even his website (which is still going) is incredibly autistic. I can never work out if he was just an arrogant genius child prodigy, or if hes just fundamentally lacking some kind of modesty.
He never really became an industry figurehead and I dont understand why. I wonder if he was difficult to work with, or if he just dgaf about games.

>>11873183
>https://files.catbox.moe/nm5d56.lmp
Good dooming, you risekd it with the revs in the end
gg

>>11873554
>I do wonder if there will be a Q3 remaster soon.

Though probably redundant, if there was one I'd be curious if they brought over the PS2 port's campaign or some shit.

>>11873554
I'm not real convinced that there's a big market for a "retro rerelease" of a shooter lacking a big singleplayer+PvE component.

>>11873447

Not if you are looking for the experience of old time Quake 3, that's too much of a community thing to ever bottle the same lightning again. If you are just nostalgic for arena shooters and don't mind playing against bots, it's OK. You can turn the hero abilities off IIRC, and then it just plays like a super pretty Q3A.

It's a shame because it could have been great if they didn't totally fumble the most critical elements, and try to milk it as a live service before it was even out of open beta.

>>11873551

Autistic, but also based

>>11873569
He immediately left gaming after making Build to work in the general software industry which pays more if your not some 0.1% rockstar

>>11873606
and also doesn't make you fucking hate games.

>>11873569
Seems fine to me, just real direct.

>>11873065
next weapon - E
previous weapon - Q

>>11873569
Pretty sure there were some leaked emails from the development of blood that made it seem like he was unavailable, didn't respond and standoffish. Not exactly good traits, but I'm pretty sure if you're minmaxing your time, you probably won't devote your life to a project you're only tangentially related to. also, Silverman

I've never used next/previous weapon in any game. Why not just get to the gun you want to use immediately? The only classical era game I can think of this might not be ideal is half life, but there you just memorize the digit inputs which is still faster than wheeling to your gun

>>11873659
But those are my turn keys

>>11873569
There's an old leaked mail from Monolith where they complain at George Broussard that Ken Silverman and his code is incredibly difficult to work with, where George infamously replied with a joking/"joking" suggestion that Monolith lie to the IRS on their taxes.

>>11873554
>I do wonder if there will be a Q3 remaster soon.
On one hand, it would be cool if they made a new version.
On other hand, I worry about a netcode a lot. Nu-id and NDS both got an awful track record. Did anyone here try online in SS2 remaster?
>>11873579
That would be cool, but PS2 port was published by EA, so I wonder if that could be done officially.
We can likely still get everything from original game + Team Arena + Live + Xbox Live Arcade version in one package, at least and with some extras on top of that.

>>11873664
You can also bind keys in HL 1 and 2 directly to the weapons themselves so you don't have to cycle through the weapon groups.
>>11873665
I associated them most with lean keys. For id and Build games they're weapon binds.

>>11873665
Genuine question: Why do you prefer keyboard turning? I understand that even the doom 1 manual encourages mouse aiming after a while

>>11873665
But that's what you have the mouse for?

>>11873745
Even Wolf is best played with a mouse, feels smooth as silk.

>>11873745
Keyboard only is a fun challenge when you get the hang of it

>>11873065
>next weapon - mwheeldown
>previous weapon - mwheelup
Because you go up & down the list of weapons as you scroll through them.

>>11873065
>use - mwheelup
>use - mwheeldown
I fucking hate using the mousewheel for weapon switching and always have

>PsyDoom hasn't updated in a couple years
>Check out the GitHub page on a whim
>Discover a development branch updated a couple weeks ago
>The guy's been adding support for the leaked alphas of PSX Doom
Why? Why go through all the trouble to add support for something that 99% of your users aren't going to bother with?

>>11871402
>>11873557
Scythe 2 is the kind of wad that really grows on you imo, it gets better the more you play it

>>11873665
You mean bank keys, but yeah, those are vital in 6DoF.

>>11873805
Objectively the best wad of the '00s and this can't be debated.

>>11873551
How many views does he have? he deserves all of them

>>11873447
just play qcde lil nigga

>>11873876
Really wonder what the thing on the front is supposed to be. Stacking rod? Blunt bayonet? Pry-bar?

>>11873881
It's the brake lever.

>>11873912
Is that why the pellets have the effective range of spitting?

>>11872173
https://youtu.be/s4fYfCcK9VU

>>11873554
There will be some remaster release at next QuakeCon. No idea what it's gonna be though.

>>11873978
>Now introducing the Doom Franchise Ultra 16K Collection!
>Now includes ray tracing, ultra HD graphics, freelook, jumping, crouching, and a new modding standard: IDHD25!
>Enjoy five whole months of revamped classic Doom before we unceremoniously drop support!

>>11873978
What could it even be? Quake 4? RtCW? They've already done repackages of all the 90's games they're most known for.
Wolf3D is too primitive. Keen is a platformer, and I'm assuming id still wants to be known as the FPS company. Doom 3 already has BFG and VR. Quake 3, ETQW and QL are all multiplayer centric and in the case of QL, is still active. I think Wolf09 is in some weird rights limbo. No one gives a fuck about Rage.

Hovertank 3D?

>>11874006
Plot twist: Id teamed up with General Mills to create Chex Eternal.

>>11873978
They've already made comedically soulless re-releases for every game worth mentioning. Nu-"iD" has nothing even worth rehashing left

>>11873978
Orcs & Elves.

>>11874006
Knowing Nightdive's MO, probably pay whoever did the ports for Doom RPG and commercially re-release tweaked version of those.

>>11873978
maybe they'll update Doom 3 BFG Edition to not be shit

I don't get it. Is Doomdude the same dude in all the dooms? Isn't ps1 doom non canon like doom 3? Like is dark ages dude doom 2 dude?

>>11874038
Doomdude is you, the player. He is a digital vessel, and whatever he's seen and done is what you've made him see and do. Anyone who says otherwise is incorrect.

>>11874038
Caring about the "lore" in doom brought us to the marvel-derivative cringe era of nudoom. The story or lack thereof doesn't matter

>>11874042
>I have been Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh.
>I have been called a hundred names and will be called a thousand more before the world goes dim and cold.
>I am hero.

>>11874054
Doomguy being FPS Link is the best characterization: an angry grunting green man who looks different every time he shows up. Is he the same person? Is he someone else? It doesn't matter, there's evil to be removed.

>>11873665
That imagouse. Romerog Doom. mouse. Obviously you couldn't aim in y axis but you could still aimge is shit. sly you couldn't aim in y axis but you couldD still aiYou could play Wolf3 from the start wih the m with the moth a when they weren't even planning on makinking Doom. mouse. Obvioum wituse. Romero was speedrunning it with a mouse years ago

>>11873978
Quake 3 remade in modern id tech. Not a hero shooter, but has unlockable/purchasable skins.

>>11873876
>qcde
No Slash, no play. Imagine cutting out the best-feeling movement in the game.

>>11873764

Playing keyboard only is how I balance my maps for HNTR and HMP. I push the difficulty of UV until I can only just beat it with M+KB, and then just a little further for good measure.

But keyboard only feels comfy as fuck, especially if you use my patented WASD and arrow keys with up arrow to shoot configuration.

>>11874054
>Random throwaway terminal in Marathon
>"OmG iT mUsT bE tAlKiNg AbOuT tHe MaIn ChArAcTeR bEiNg A TiMe-TrAvElInG gOd!"

>>11874070
They gave the slide mechanics to Kane.

>>11874016
Quake 2 remaster is great for the fact alone that it reignited the whole Q2 modding scene. I've also enjoyed alot of all those 3 new expansions they have included on their remasters.

>>11874070
IIRC Kane has Slash's crouch slides and Anarki's stim injection, though I get it, I liked Slash a lot.
>>11874081
It's not talking about the player character, it's talking about the player.

>>11874087
>It's not talking about the player character, it's talking about the player.
Try explaining that to the Marathon fans, especially the Marathon Eternal devs.

>>11874006
Technically Q3 does have single player campaign and since they added expansions for Q1 and Q2, it's not far fetched if they made new sp expansion for Q3 with actual sp maps and with Q1 and Q2 monsters.

Doom 3 is possible too, and BFG iedition is not stopping them since it's a shitty remaster. Q2 had it's RTX remaster too and Doom had it's Unity remaster before they gave us better remasters.

>>11874096
Please don't give them ideas, the legacy of id has already been tarnished nearly beyond repair

>>11874087
I just read that as "I am the protagonist"
I really hate when people read to much into muh deep lore like that; extrapolating absolute clownshoes shit from vagary that some jerkoff wrote in an afternoon, like that Pelinal Whitestrake shit in TES
Fuck Kirkbride

>>11874102
>the legacy of id has already been tarnished nearly beyond repair
Bet Bethesda still want to release that Commander Keen mobile game.

>>11874103
People did that with the vortigaunt in HL2 that talks about how many eyes are looking through Freeman's eyes and other stuff too.

>>11874102
Nah, I've liked the remasters (not ports themselves besides Q2 but the content). It's their new games that suck.

>>11874103
>absolute clownshoes shit
It's the basic Moorcock idea of the Eternal Hero.

>>11873551
Not a trackball fan but his setup is comfy as fuck.

>>11874103
I'd love it if a game/mod dev dropped a bunch of "deep-lore" shit, only to reveal at the very end that the main character's a complete schizo, thus rendering all the "lore" completely worthless.

>>11874120
Sounds too much of "subverting the expectations" for me.

>>11874120
>it was all a dream
might have been novel 80 years ago

>>11874120
But then the deep lore would be "unpacking" the schizo shit to figure out that the protagonist had a bad dad or something and that's why he's crazy

>>11874116
>Moorcock
So clown, yes.

>>11874129
>anon attempts to conceal ignorance with wrath

>>11874120
that's just Realms of the Haunting.

>>11874103
>hating on Kirkbride
shit taste

>>11874137
A game with pretty bad writing, and a particularly bad ending.

>>11874136
He's a bad writer with even worse opinions on writing, specifically his idiocy on Tolkien.

>>11873065
Next weapon mousewheeldown just feels natural to me because most shooters I've played default to that. The only one that didn't was Dusk

>>11874103
>people read to much into muh deep lore like that
People are reading exactly what they need to. It's the Eternal Champion, a man who's chosen by the universe to keep balance, whether he's aware of his role or not. I think the Security Officer, Master Chief, and the spec ops marine from Pathways into Darkness were all meant to be reincarnations of this same force of good at one point. PiD explicitly references the Jjaro, and I'm pretty sure the original ending of Halo 3 was meant to reveal them in some way as well.

Would you consider postal 2 a retro shooter? I'm just curious

>>11874103
That also happened with the infamous hidden "Gheritt White" terminal in the original Marathon. The fans theorized about the meaning behind it, with the most agreed-upon interpretation being that it was a metaphor for Durandal's rampancy.
And then someone decided to ask the level's creator about it, and he revealed that it was just a random creative writing exercise he had snuck in and it didn't actually have any meaning.

>>11874150
2003 is retro by the board rules.

>>11874150
Doom 3 and HL2 are from 2004 and they are retro shooters. Postal 2 is from 2003 so it has to be a retro shooter too.

>>11874109

It made sense in Half Life, when you have the G-Man blatantly manipulating time and space, and the whole story is about sci-fi quantum entanglement interdimensional fuckery.

I still think Marc Laidlaw deserves pistol whipping for writing the story into such a corner though.

>>11874006
>I think Wolf09 is in some weird rights limbo.
Microsoft literally owns all parties involved.

playing the 2nd episode of Blood for the first time...i nearly had a heart attack when i heard the screech of the flying ghost. holy shit, one of the most terrifying sounds i've ever heard.

>>11874006
From the makers of Doom + Doom II: Heretic + Hexen.

>>11874212
Someone once described it as "a man getting his balls caught in a mouse trap".

>>11874212
they're so scary when you first see them but once you learn how the work they're complete pushovers except for that one level that traps you in a room with like 4 of them

It's time for Wednesday Night Wipeout!
Come play some SRB2Kart!
WE ARE STILL ON NEPTUNE 2.4.3!

How to join (The short and easy way):
Download the All-in-one repack: https://mega.nz/file/JrsETLaJ#Ny7E1Uu7ftp-2Yojpdj04Rc5xucKgV1V6H2DPboPzLA
Extract it to its own folder (NOT the desktop or program files)
Run "SRB2Kart-Neptune (Connect to vrkart).bat" and wait for any missing files to download in-game
DO NOT run "srb2kart.exe" and expect to be able to join the server.
If you don't have a 64-bit machine/OS for whatever reason: Copy the contents of the 32-bit folder into the main folder

How to join (The longer and harder way):
Download version 1.6 of the game: https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/download/v1.6/srb2kart-v16-Installer.exe
Get the custom client we use: https://codeberg.org/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.4.3
Get the mods either automatically in-game or at: https://macgu.fun/repo/srb2kart/
Connect to macgu.fun (either use connect in console or "specify ipv4 address" under Multiplayer)

>I HAVE TO BITCH FAST AND TEXT CHAT TOO SLOW
We also have a Mumble server!
Address: 51.161.34.159
Port: default
Password: endoom

>I heard this game supports proximity chat, are we using that?
No.

Pro tips: https://pastebin.com/YV6biqxq
(This is out of date and written for a different server, but it still has a lot of useful information.)

>>11874212
It's pretty loud at first but I ended up finding it funny after playing more

I'm sad and listless. Anyone got any fun or just nice pics or vids relating to Doom or Quake?

>>11874441
shake it baby
>>11874489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9Z4ffRUuUk

>>11871368 (OP)
Anybody got the old UDgfxD2.zip file? It's been taken down by a false copywrite claim by a party that isn't Bethesda/ID Software.

Or at least a way to readily pull D1-specific textures not included in the R667 compilation.

I was going to originally just make an E1 replacement but realized I can't think of much more to do with this; These maps are meant to be highly experimental after all. (I mainly wanted to fuck around with an 'abstract' tech-base but I couldn't really think of much, E2, 3 and 4 are more my forte as they can be more surreal in location.

Pic related; it's the map i was working on (with my signature floor buttons that I rarely see people use in maps); Not much, just some FIREBLU, some cacos and some lost souls, alongside vanilla bridges. I was hoping to accidently stumble upon something new.

Feel free to post maps that are experimental in nature but still 'standard' gameplay; I'm aware of MOST tricks for (near)-vanilla but I'm sure there's more.

>>11874507
"DTecNet.Inc" is the one who issued the DMCA takedown for doom textures; but they don't get to make this claim.

>>11874507
You'll just have to grab the textures yourself, make sure to subtly tweak them so that they won't get auto-detected on iDGames.

>>11874513
Unfortunately, DMCA is a law which is incredibly easy to abuse, not the least thanks to big corporation's unwillingness to vet any claims.
Not that R667 is a big corpo site or anything, but it's not like they have a lot of options.

>>11874524
It's not going on IDGames; I just want the E4 specific textues but I don't know which ones appear only in E4; since d1gfxd2.wad and doom1-2.wad do not have; at the very least, the E4 Sky; which is what I know is unique; but I want to know if I am missing others (and more specifically, a reminder on how to pull them since it's been many years since I worked on a project or messed with SLADE; I wish I could reclaim them but they seem to have been lost in a mediafire/dropbox cleaning so they're lost media.

random screens since i don't know what you people want me to take a picture of in here.

>>11874527
Oh for fuck sakes I did it again. Dementia is a bitch (and probably why I was having such issues in prior projects)

>>11874489

>>11874530
>Dementia is a bitch
Big fan of The Thing You Can't Defeat, huh?

>>11874530
And yes; the HoM Smears are intentional and a desired effect. I'm trying to exploit them for my purposes.

>>11874535
since it felt familiar to how i feel on a daily basis (but perhaps not literally) I guess; I played through it but yeah, feels pretty accurate.

Oh well, [THEY] can KISSU MAI ASSU; They don't know or own me.

So E4's unique textures; It's just the sky,yes?

Uh oh.

>>11874551
Don't try to force drama again, Fed.

>>11874547
Even if I think you're an asshole, I do also actually feel sincerely bad for you, dementia is perhaps the worst disease imaginable, and early onset is being dealt an unbelievably shitty and cruel card by life.
I wouldn't wish it on my very worst enemies.

I hope you can find some sort of peace one day. It may sound optimistic and sappy, but maybe not necessarily just through the grave.

>>11874531
I was about to say shouldn't it be doomguy asking HUH about Quake, but Loom actually came out before Monkey Island

>>11874570
You don't have to like me. None of you ever did.
It would of just been nice if some certain people (ae: Applefat.gov and others) were honest.

I did what Xaser and the rest said; and for it I got attacked. What the fuck? Ever since it has been an uphill battle.

>>11874489

i'm losing my mind

>>11874489

>>11874576
Why is he eating rock?

>>11874576
What wad is this?

>>11874604
That's Reelism 2

>>11874595
Captain Kirk is eating a mountain. Why is he eating a mountain?

>>11874576
YOU'LL SHIT BRIX

do you guys use something like shaderglass or just do raw pixelage?

>>11871372
Sunless Empire got released, it's an Aztec-themed wad.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/154269-sunless-empire-rc1-10-aztec-themed-mbf21-maps-by-the-waffle-house-team/

Ever played some map, and you get your expectations subverted, not in a "This is better than I thought!" kind of way because you didn't think the .wad seemed that good at first, but also not "This is worse than I thought." where you're annoyed.

Rather, you're a bit baffled, and the way this subverted your expectations is funny to you, you laugh. Not necessarily the author's intent either, he didn't maybe intend for it to be a joke, but it's still funny.
Ever had that feeling?

>>11874623
I like raw pixels.

>>11874538
I will again politely question if it specifically just E4's sky; or if Thy Flesh Consumed had it's own special textures aside from this.

didn't really know what to do with the circled rooms. I started with the fireblu room and was sad when sky textures and HoMs couldn't be used in conjunction.

>>11874489
Got a folder full of these for wallpapers

>>11874669
Uh, let me try to understand here, you want to intentionally use HOMs, and you also to have a specific sky texture be part of it as well?
What format are you mapping for?

>>11874679
figured i better go back for near-vanilla; Note as saying 'near vanilla' as I'm genuinely not fucking around with a single texture's alignment for days on end, nor worrying about visplanes or what have you.

Does it run without crashing in most commonly used ports? Are there softlocks? many things to ask

basically remember what i did with "i can't see shit without my glasses" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNxjCXtNr_s - the last thing we can seem to recover of mine (aside from Incident 666 for the joel contest, which ended up a bit rushed at the end and wasn't where i wanted it to be due to personal limitations), and go from there.- since i'd be practically starting over again. But grandmother's worthwhile.

Specific sky texture no; just asking if TFC had more custom textures than it's sky. Can't remember because of presumed gradual braindeath.

>>11874527
>>11874669
IIRC, TFC didn't bring any new textures outside of the sky. The texture scheme a lot of its maps ended up doing was apparently an unplanned coincidence.

>>11874704
Pretty sure that the new sky is the only new texture it added, yeah. If you wanted other stuff with a Doom 1 feel, you could always page through the Alpha/Beta stuff for unused textures and variants, there's actually some pretty cool stuff there which visually fits the first game well.

>>11874731
>>11874730
I don't feel like I'm going to pull in new textures and whatnot at this time; esp if trying for vanilla compat.

Remember that time we had the /vr/y spooky halloween thing; and I made TWO maps for it; but drama over a floor texture caused further problems?

yeah. i'd rather avoid that for now. I've had problems trying to get it to work proper prior.

doubt anybody still has those two maps.

>>11874730
It feels like it fits the trend of Doom 2 being a much more brown game.

>>11874794
Thanks, I hate it.
But it's some real slick frankenspriting.

>>11874794
Believe it or not, less threatening than a normal archvile

>>11874805
It's firing hitscans while it ignites the devil magicks under your feet. Breaking line of sight will cause it to fire a lost soul.

>>11874807
For every second that you don't have a line of sight, it will spawn 1 Lost Soul.

>>11874809
actually evil

>>11874809
Every tic

>>11874809
But for the sake of fair play it operates under the same spawn restrictions as Pain Elementals.
However because it's an Archvile, other monsters will never target it.

How do we work in the Rev balls?

>>11874812
The Lost Soul limit stays OFF when fighting the Arch-Revnomind.

>>11874794
Why does it have a christmas tree for a middle?

I know this isn't the thread but I literally don't know where else to ask.
Recently got DNF on sale and am I tripping or am I seen horizontal lines everywhere? Is this intended?

>>11874819
it's a game within a game

>>11874813
Homing lost souls

>>11874820
Man I'm dumb, I used to be smarter (and more patient) than this.
In my defense tho I've seen my fair share of games with faulty shadows like RE2 Remake which also had similar lines in them.

>>11874289
GGs

>>11874845
If your patience is thin, then you're NOT going to have a good time with that game, mark my words on that.

>>11874289
GGs

>>11873827
I still like Alien Vendetta more because the levels are more varied, ambitious, and don't have the custom Evil Marine. Scythe 2's maps are more polished and streamlined and end up being less interesting to explore. As soon as you see the starting area, you realize that the rest of the map will look largely the same and with few surprises. And Mr X is just awful to fight because of Doom's RNG monster movement at fast speeds.

>>11873673
I played a lot of the Quake 1 and 2 remaster online and had a great time, and I've been playing Quake Live/QuakeWorld for years now.

The convenience of being able to play with friends just by having a 4 digit code would be fantastic for Q3, while more competitive players can stick to CPMA and such.

if MachineGames creates a singleplayer campaign for Quake 3 it'd make it the best Quake game ever imo. Best arsenal with none of the drawbacks, and they could tap into some of that cosmic horror people want with the arena masters and the Vadrigar.

Only thing I wish Nightdive would really work on is having multiplayer mod support day 1. I think that'd greatly expand these games longevity.

>>11873805
>>11873827
I feel like the Scythe megawads were heavily back-loaded. I know they are easy targets to get memed on for turning into slaughter or whatever, but most of the early easier levels, while nothing bad, tend to be kinda boring in retrospect, especially in regards to scythe 1.

This can't be good for me, but I feel great.

>>11874289
GGs

>>11874973
delicious

>>11874973
cute potion stand

>>11874952
true of Scythe 1 but I think Scythe 2 starts to pick up as early as the egypt levels

>>11874973
Hey about the Sven Blinking in gaiden. it happens when the player is low hp in multiplayer. it some reason start to blink from concern expression to default smile very fast (also blinks from low ammo grey concern to default blue smile)

>>11875112
I recall hearing something about that, I'll have to see if I can fix that at some point. Just Zandronum things.

>>11873881
When you pull it down it chokes the cylinder, lessening the spread and giving a tighter shot pattern. Doom Guy unfortunately didn't know this.

>>11874819
Use the 4 weapon setting and hold on to the pistol. It's great with head shots and sniping across a room.

Are there any wads with skippable cutscenese? I want to see how they did it.

>>11875259
Daedalus: Alien Defense

>>11875052
Scythe 2 has a much stronger first 15 levels than scythe 1, but it still feels like Erik Alm is holding back too much, IMO.

It's late but Doom Infinite devs are apparently still alive, I don't think that's newsworthy though
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-infinite/news/we-live-again-never-died-tho1

>>11875492
Allegedly the update is already on their Discord but fucked if I can be bothered to deal with that shit.

>>11871478
Dooming from bed then or powering through the pain? I'm not often sick or injured, but when I am I switch to Doom or a Build game on my Deck and lay in bed. I should actually put the Turok games on that thing too...

>>11875564
I have recovered enough to where I can sit, but I have to have quite an angled-back posture so as to not put too much weight on my lower back. I also got some anti-pain cream to rub the area with
the joys of turning 40

>TIL that both MageSlayer and Take No Prisoners have a rudimentary FPS mode that makes them feel almost like an entirely different game upon replaying either this way.
Kinda makes me want to play Uprising or Battlezone from a top-down perspective now and pretend that I'm somehow playing Herzog 3.
Yes I know that's pretty much what AirMech already was

Another new wad by Monti. Dat skybox.

>>11875634

robbed from Alien Soldier by the looks of it.

>>11874973
nice to see you kegan; one of the few people around that i enjoyed interacting with.

>>11875610
Yeah, it is pretty cool, but I really fucking wish someone would redraw the sprites for them, because I remember them looking like shit in FPS mode.

>>11873801
YOU are the one responsible for the doors getting stuck.

>>11874120
>All in Le Head
No, Pyro.

>>11873065
>cycling through weapons in a PC shooter instead of pressing keys
ISHYGDDT

>>11875634
Reminds me of Starforge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc2cOVuoqRw

More specifically; the Unbound
(It's surprising Starbound assets actually work well with Doom; Case in point: that one ZDW map)

pic related so you know wtf i'm talking about (I'll go dig for the starbound frackin themed map and post a screen after.)
>Not retro
Fuck off.

>>11875710
Here we are. 1/2

>>11875714
2/2
Mapset is ZDWar's Lost Memories mapset. Also has maps based on DRG and more.

>>11874735
I'm still digging through the archive. I see a couple of old indev screens, so I'll keep looking for the build of /vr/y spooky that had my two or so maps.

Kind of looking for any salvaged LOTX builds or my Highway to Hell e1m8 map, too.

>>11875739
There's one; but dead links are dead links. So lost progress.
That one asshole claiming "altzheimers" was, as stated: an asshole. But was not entirely incorrect.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/up3g18zd7w5yzjg/hallowpeen.wad?dl=0

A reminder that most people had no problem with SArais maps until they realized who made them. Then they reverted to NPC programming again and forced undue rage given their narcissistic nepotism..

Now excuse me, I have more digging for Pariah's Experiment/Lament/Return/ Re/Vengeance (a Tribes ReVengeance prod in naming terms)

Yes, [PARIAH] as in [PROTOTYPE]

Wake up you slackers.

>>11875756
Oh, excellent. Found one of Repugnus's old alphas. Perhaps something can be salvaged after all. I don't get what people were being spastic over my work over. Probably cognitive conditioning.

heh, still using floor buttons even at this early point.

>>11874952
Play Scythe episode 1 with fast monsters if it's too easy, says so in scythe.txt

>>11875756
Heh. I remember when somebody poked fun at the little fleshy thing I did for "anomalous properties"

surely there's somewhere where I can locate my prior maps. With THIS; I can continue my wooork.

>>11875825
hahaha yes /vr/y good.
I remember making 2+ more maps for /vr/y spooky after seeing repugnus was burned out and there wasn't enough submissions; so in technicality I made at least 3 maps for /vr/y spooky.

Only slightly related, but the new Nikke event imagery is... pretty funny.

>>11875846
I'm tempted to personally ressurect the /vr/y spooky thing with dramatically reduced restrictions if I can find the last build (the one with 7+ maps not including my own.

Pic related; It was the third map I made for Repugnus's /vr/y spooky halloween special; and the aforementioned map that people had a shitstorm because I couldn't get a floor texture working so blamed the cancelation of the project on me (I wasn't responsible; Repugnus already said people were burned out and there wasn't many submissions, which is why I kept making more)

>>11875885
Fuck it pisses me off that I decided to purge all my Dropbox; There was some great stuff in here but ingrates like Mr. Azrael chased me away from the community and made me feel like my work wasn't worthwhile; But people who actually played my maps and provided criticism (and not thinly-veiled bashing) instead of trying to cancel-culture me, have repeatedly said they're good.

Anons, I got a bit of question.
Let's say that you come across a new Quake engine game or total conversion mod.
Assume it plays like an ideal classic shooter.
Would you be more interested in it if it had graphically:
>a Quake 1/2 look with unfiltered 8-bit color textures and very low-poly models
OR
>a Quake 3 level of detail with smoothed truecolor textures and basic shader effects
OR
>Doom 3 quality with early PBR, dynamic lights, and heavy shadows

I've been thinking about this a lot as I'm working on a couple projects on different versions of the engine. The look of something can really grab or deflect someone's interest, even if it's otherwise exactly what they want.
The Quake 1/2 look is endearing, but it's been tried a lot in recent years and can be misinterpreted as lazy (often not without reason).
Quake 3 style can look amazingly timeless, but only if there is real artistry behind it.
Doom 3 graphics can be great as well, but it's a slippery slope into modernity - only held back by imposed limitations or a strong aesthetic.

Poll: https://strawpoll.com/6QnMQ9WO3ne

>>11871372
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/150894
[MBF21] Cyber Nights Full Release [RC1.1]

>>11875898
>I lost this magnificent beast and many others
>No way to recover deleted dropbox files; just have to hope somebody has the updated Garosaedris.wad
FUCK indeed.

>>11875943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-lpSBksudw
HAHAHA YES I KNEW THE VIDEO EXISTED.

>>11875915
>Voted Quake 1/2

What are you working on? Super interested. I've been looking at total conversions and there are some interesting gems.

>>11875959
This video alone is part of the proof that I was a victim of the delusional cancel-culture, that I was supressed by those who never even played my maps, that were simply goonies of Mr. Azrael and the like.
I knew the outrage against me was unnatural, it did not grow organically.

>>11875915
Ask me again in a few months but this is currently what I’m in the mood for:
>>a Quake 3 level of detail with smoothed truecolor textures and basic shader effects
But I could be interested in any of the three options depending on what you’re pulling off.

>>11875984
>What are you working on?
Aside from Malice Refined that's been posted here a few times, I'm also working on a game where you play as a goose who fights space aliens.
It's largely still in pre-production with the aesthetic not really nailed down yet, hence the question.

>>11876035
Oh, you're the one working on MR? Cool! I love your idea and hope to see it soon. Your character designs are extraordinary.

>>11875998
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/vryspooky_4.rar/
Dug around to find what I could. If anybody still has the archive, let me know. Perhaps /vr/y spooky can still come to fruition.

Atmospheric Edgeway and Punchline Commando of JoM4? Yes, I had a part in those maps and didn't want to be credited (but not lied about helping them); unfortunately inbred fucktards sought to cover me up. Just like with LOTX.

>>11876081
Also
>An_Mutt complaining about "vore mouths" when Jimmy did the same thing in Genesis
favoritism, bias, and general faggotry.

I was wronged. This is the truth; And in nearly a decade; the truth does not change. It remains static, no matter how many times you ban me or lie about me in order to character assassinate me in the community.

You think you had me pegged; but you didn't. People didn't want the truth, they wanted a target; and so the person with a neurodegenerative condition and a dead cat, trying to help people with their JoM4 maps; is ostracized for trying to be a helpful, kind, polite, considerate person.

I am in the right for being angry; and I am in the right for defending myself.

I am PARIAH.
I ALONE am whom the Great Old Ones speak through.
And I would not be much of a Pariah if I was liked, would I?

But no, this will get deleted and swept under the rug, just like everything else. Fucking Pedophiles.

I will not apologize for being in the right.
I will not apologize for opposing The Party.

>offtopic
Fuck Off. The Truth is The Truth;
My Heart sank as The Party opposed me and threw me under the bus; They already held all the power, what hope did I have?

I'd be more on topic, but 90% of the time my posts are all purged and covered up, every. single. time. no matter how on-topic they are. (doom projects, doom community members, talking about duke nukem 3d, etc.)

Maybe if the majority of the cumguzzlers in the past had shown me even the slightest modicum of respect, we wouldn't be here.
But no; I will continue to be angry for being wronged.
I do so miss hashing things out with Combine Kegan. I remember the early days of Arti. Good times.

Thanks to that anon who DID show me some level of respect and found me Disjunction based solely off this scribble, so I could give the .wad to my slowly dying grandmother.

Hey guys I like playing doom and doom 2 :3 they are fun games Yay just wanted to stop in and share that with you RIP AND TEAR rawr

>>11876094
I don't know what this is about. Can you elaborate?

>>11876119
Wait till you get into custom wads and mapping. That's where the real fun starts.

>>11876110
I'm bored enough to engage with a crazie. Anon, what is your grievance? What has you all hot under the collar?

>>11876145
Please don't, he'll never shut the fuck up.

>>11876145
Earlier he said he has dementia, so if that's true, he's probably having an episode. We are reaching interesting times when retro fps fans are old enough to get dementia and still able to post.

>>11876153
>We are reaching interesting times when retro fps fans are old enough to get dementia and still able to post.

Now there's a thought. Damn, that sucks.

>>11876151
Doesn't seem like he'll shut up anyway but your probably right.

>>11876153
>We are reaching interesting times when retro fps fans are old enough to get dementia and still able to post.
It's less that it's an age thing and more that it becomes way more apparent with age, you can be diagnosed with it really fucking young, which sucks because it's a death sentence with no cure.

>>11874120
That's like THE most lazy and boring trope in all of fiction.
>Bro, the story wasn't reeeeaaaaal!
It's not fucking real anyway, you trite faggot, that's either an author writing themselves into a corner and not knowing what to do, or it's someone trying to be le subversive, but they have no interesting ideas on how to actually subvert.

There's definitely ways to write a story where much of it is taking place in a character's head, and maybe he's fucking crazy, but try to actually do something interesting with that, rather than just dry a cop-out ending.

>>11876119
Love em all.

>>11876153
He's not elderly, he just has early onset dementia, which is REALLY shitty for him and his life is unfair, but the problem is that he also takes this out on us.

>>11876145
Hi, devil's advocate here;
SArais was actually a good friend of several people prior to his abusive uncle moving in (before 2015, Mark John Anderson went to Afghanistan as a mechanic); which likely accelerated his decline; Between this and the repeated rejections by a communiuty he was just trying to give back to; the man is a raging ball of hatred and cannabis withdrawal (can't afford it consistently) so he became very withdrawn after the fact; and strongly suspects Azrael, Foxy, Silverwing or one of the others to have had a play in it. He became increasingly withdrawn and distant; and likely knew whoever made those image-macros about him; as ponyfags instantly pissed him off to a state of delirium upon mere mention (he thinks the bronys are a precursor to the LGTBQIA fetish cult)
I miss my friend, but he kept removing everybody, and didn't really remember most of us well.
Try not to take it personally. He often doesn't comprehend what you're trying to tell him. He WAS a great guy, lot of fun, pretty funny, crazy ideas, Degenerate, sure, but he meant something to me, once.

>>11876170
Sorry to hear that. That is honestly fucking terrible. Mental illness really strips a person of who they were and replaces it with otherness.

>>11876169
Well the community DID fire the first shots on an autistic, brain-damaged retard with a brain-death condition. There is every reason for him to want to do so; as every time he is attacked; he feels justified for his position.

It certainly explains his mapping style and behavior. Man just wants to get things out of his head and have done something of worthwhile value. Man just wanted to make a videogame; but it is beyond rocket science to him.

>>11876160
If it helps, I've seen relatives alzheimers and their last years are quite peaceful. Stress/confusion phase is the worst phase but it passes, and then they just sleep (90% of day), sit and eat without any ability to worry or stress, until they forget how to breathe (usually in sleep).

>>11876170
That's the very real life tragedy of Alzheimers, it takes people away from us and twists them horribly until they fall apart.
I watched my grandpa go like that, and it was bleak.

Sounds like a stupid, infantile idea, but I wonder if dementia suffers who can map would benefit from recreating their living space in Doom. I remember reading there's a marked improvement when patients with memory loss have their rooms decorated closely to the time-era they're 'stuck' in.

>>11874794
Where's the Arch-revengunner?

>>11876180
Shit's rough as fuck, I went through something similar, in their last years it was stuff like having days where you were a stranger, or days where they had split you into three distinct people that they knew and recognized but couldn't connect all of them to being you.

>new episode of the xenofaggot saga drops
maybe the fatfur bastard will get his day sometime at least...
Hopeful that we can compile all of his creations and perhaps there is some sort of lining to this.
Many of them showed promise, and the Enceladus maps (LOTX) looked intresting if rough and unpolished
SArais (now VolteVaris) even doesn't form newer friendships; both because he sees friends only as somebody who hasn't backstabbed him yet; but also because of these anti-social withdrawals and dementia, not wanting to burden others, Man's on disability to and even had to poorfag it at the grocery store a few times.
Source: i've spoken to Henry, from Australia, who works at NoFrills He's met him (Tristan Anderson) in person.- so unfortunately it seems accurate as many people have complained of him smelling terrilby (sweat, etc.) regardless of how much he cleans himself.
Man's given up. Only gives a shit about his grandmother now and spends his entire day with her at the nursing home at Carveth. The rest of his family he considers not family; but dysfunction; And if the grandmother is to be belived; his mother abandoned him on the day he was born, which, in narture; is a surefire deathsign that the child will not make it.
And as we are CLEARLY SEEING...

>>11875915
>Assume the most fantastic scenario that basically never happened and tell me about these small details
That's not how it works.

>saw that message in the byoc server when Volte said to Azrael "i don't remember you; but I do recall that I instinctively want to avoid you for some reason."- paraphrased
makes sense

>SArais repeatedly begging for assistance on his maps was simply because the fucker couldn't comprehend what he was doing and was suffering a practical braindeath
Sad! This saga is over however; and there is no happy ending:
EVERONE LOSES!

decided to bite and play the only mapset of his that we can salvage
what the fuck is the real problem here?
>drama
I said the REAL Problem.
The maps are very rough as to be called course; but there's nothing egregiously offensive here; Most of these maps are obviously just playing around with a central gimmick; The mapper in question also likely has a higher skill grading; he's mentioned slaughter maps a LOT.
6/10 it's alright;
Seems like it was submitted to Decino; Wonder if he'll find the voodoo thing and fpressure-plates to be of note

>>11876232
>labtop has a bitchfit and makes me select a black screen instead of just properly taking a screenshot.
Fine.

>>11875326
Those were skippable??!

Duke Zero Hour source port yet?

>>11876239
These rooms are pretty cool; if chaotic- Being and E2 replacement though; this should be expected. Tyson E2M1 is fun.

>>11876246
Yep, you can even skip the very first one.

>>11875867
I like Elegg, even if I'll never play her game.

>>11876118
>and found me Disjunction
No problem anon. I haven't been there back in 2017, but I don't put much of a positive repute for the habitual namegoers either. You can always expect worst when interacting with them, golden rule is to not engage at all.

>Who the fuck is this 'SArais?'
>Look inside
>morbidly obese xenomorph queen
>meant to double down on the whole termite queen thing
Huh.
pardon the off-topic.

>>11874817
I don't know, I just found him somewhere and then put the chaingun on him.

>>11876385
I recall the website but not the name; Didn't it have a Cyber-Caco that was frankensprited with the Cycloid Emperor?

>>11876398
That might be where I found him once upon a time, yeah.

>>11876398
There's this one.

>>11876458
Not that specific one; but the one you posted is no that site, IIRC.
Shame most were never actually made into monsters.

Alright, don't expect any questions from me right now, but someone knows about yume 2kki here?
If the answer is yes, then...
https://files.catbox.moe/vrtuim.mp4

>>11876480
I think there's a guy here who does.

>>11876480
brazil tibia pk

>>11875701
I use E for doors, the mousewheel is only there if I need to spam it to press a switch in the middle of a fight or something

>>11876318

That reminds me I wanna play AVP Gold edition again. I wish the Aliens TC for quake was better. I like the chonky polygons a lot.

>>11875867
I like Elegg because her eyes are hidden by hair. Considering that Nikke also features a lot of guns, I wonder if someone might make a mod someday.

>>11876491
Lying bastard.
You use it in multiplayer to jam up the doors and troll the fuck out of the other players.
(we all do it)

>>11876690
I always wondered what was inside these books

>>11876693
penis

>>11876516
n-no no I wouldn't do that haha

>>11876693
I'm assuming that it would walk you through how to use then common software such as DeePSea, DETH, and Deutex, as well teaching a number of mapping tricks.
Possibly also some basic DeHacked stuff.

I imagine much (though not all) of the knowledge in that book is obsolete, but that most if not all of the stuff that actually applies to Vanilla mapping and editing is stuff you can learn elsewhere online for free.
Some of the fundamentals for using previously mentioned software would probably still apply to using Ultimate Doom Builder, but there's better guides for that online.

How do you guys figure out what textures you wanna use for your doom maps? Do you make a little example room to visualize? I get bogged down with this kind of thing.

>>11876779
Sometimes I keep an idea in my head from something I've seen, sometimes I just play around with different textures and flats to see what looks like it could be good.

>>11876779
Begin with a certain vibe or idea for a location you want to make, try to stick to a set of favorite textures if you're using a huge texture pack. I usually also improvise the selection based on the color palette of the textures I've used. I focus on using 2-4 main colors in an area.

A fun exercise you could try is making a level or just a snippet following a theme which the texture set you're using is definitely not prepared for, such as making a desert or winter level using only the original Doom 2 textures.

And as anon above has mentioned, just experiment and try shit out.

>>11876779
>Do you make a little example room to visualize?
You know what? Making a mood room as a starting off spot sounds like a cool idea.

>>11876812
Whats a mood room?

>>11871368 (OP)
Are Master Levels worth playing or is it going to be dozens of 3/10 amateur hour shit maps with no flow between each?

>>11876690
Oh nice, I have this one on my shelf. It came with a really nice wad launcher too.

>>11876904
They are generally regarded as not that good. Some people like some maps, but a lot of the maps are just meh, and a few of them are pretty bad.

>>11876904
Play them and form your own opinion. I loved them but most people find them to be a mixed bag.

>>11876914
There's also that, you wouldn't know without trying, though the argument is commonly that it's not worth trying.
I'll say that the levels really do not benefit from being slapped together into a continuous megawad, they mesh really badly that way, if you're gonna play them, pick a map at random and pistol start it.

>>11876812
Fuck, I understand now I just had to read and think.

>>11875867
her "screen" has some familiar textures on it
red hell sky, green marble, and GSTVINE2

>>11876925
You're exactly right. Playing back to back fucks up the balance.

I'd say if you're playing using gz, use Master Levels Menu Interface. It's just so nice and clean.

>>11876938
oh right also looks to be a D64-style arachnotron covered by the lil tit window, judging by the legs(?) and little bit of pink brain you can make out

>>11876939
Not just balance, but they just flow badly as a sequence, even for the better levels. A direct example is how some of Kvernmo's levels are random ones from his then in progress megawad Cabal, they were obviously meant to go together in a certain way (though fuck that one level of his, goddamn).

Just pick a map, pistol start it, and then quit after beating it. Come back to another level at another time.

>>11876265
Tales of me are greatly exaggerated.
Back from the nursing home, not that any of you care.

Also; putting this out here; I randomly spitballed/shitposted about Bring Your Own Castle(hold) on Zandybam and; while unbalanced; is actually just as much, if not more intresting, a prospect than Samsarahold.

plus; god forbidding: Actual ByocHold/BYOC maps.
(byochold maps would be more varied, with traditional maps, but also 'inverted' invasion maps (think TF2's payload)); I already have one in mind that could work as a pre-emtive prototype that wouldn't require all sorts of rigging; just some keens and some monsters to kill them; all keens dead (stand in for core) ends the level as a failure.

byochold maps would also be more theoretically intresting as they change more consistently and monsters usually attack from more than one spawnpoint; thus lessening the FarmHold experience.-

Turner's been trying to get it to wipe Byoc weapons so that every map can't be cheesed to death by a legion of hobos that the UAC picked up.

retro cutoff was '03 right? here's a havoc, because he has an interest in conflict

>>11874570
also i should of just replied with this.

>>11876938
Man, breasts are just wonderful.

>>11874574
Hard to go uphill when your holding onto baggage.

>>11877032
Even more so when they're spilling it everywhere else too.

EEEYYYAAAAAAAGHHH...!!!!

>>11877135
Easier to just let go.

>>11876904
Black Tower is pretty fucking rad.

>>11877152
Strife is so close to being a cult classic but the setting isn't very interesting

>>11877235
I think the setting is very interesting.

>>11877240
Yeah there's not a lot of settings that go semi-medieval setting + robotics + cybernetics + noncorporeal entities + full on aliens

unused room, maybe for map02?
was doing just an e1 replacement but doom 1 alone seemed too restrictive for my purposes.

have fun i guess, maybe?
built for near-vanilla but run with zandro/zdoom just in case (no homs in gzdoom latest)
https://filebin.net/kf6kqqdvl0x5xi95
>>11871372
>>11871368 (OP)

>>11877248
When you break it down like that, it has most of the things I liked about the first Shining Force as a kid, just with the dial turned from 'early Disney' to 'early Image Comics'.

Hmmm.

>>11877310
Good way of putting it. Man, Shining Force was good.

>>11872203
Thanks for bringing these up. Guess we're in need of some fresh OP reform if we're to consider putting any new compilation links, now that some of the oldest cloud repositories went away due to copyright strike too, on related note. There's only 13 free symbols left, and text splitting may be the only course.

>>11871463
>obvious bullshit
tricks n traps themed project when

>>11872203
>unreal
worth mentioning the oldunreal installer since it auto patches the game.

>>11876904
They're mostly decent for 95 wads, but still very much 95 era stuff. Chris K maps feel almost 94 even.

>>11877353
That's beyond our competence. I'm afraid to say you're on this alone, anon.

>>11877373
speak for yourself

>>11877383
That makes you two then, if not inside one visionary head.

>>11877353
never
/vr/ projects r dead

I don't want to get into details, but I unfortunately caused what was probably S'Arais's biggest freakout /here/ years ago, and because of the current circumstances, and the fact I liked him and shared >>11876318 's sentiment of him and his character prior to the incident (and even now, thinking back to it), I want to deeply, truly apologize.
>>11876971
Retro cutoff is 07, you're good.

>>11877383
>%name% project when (#679)
>please make it happen for me
You think it's charity here? Learn some awareness, or as they used to say: lurk more

>>11877454
>/vr/ projects r dead
Better said, a flick of miracle

>>11876893

HELLO THERE kek

>>11873881
it's a spoon to eat tactical cereal

>>11877519
>You think it's charity here?
I dunno, yeah? I've charitably contributed to all sorts of shit here. You think it's a paying gig?

>>11877861
If you feel charitable enough, you can then provide the ideas-guy with active guidance. Bottom-line is that he might feel too good to accept it. HFFM started with a shitpost, but to make it work it had to involve a real talent and incentive, thus convincing some group of stranger people to go along with it. I'm not sure if the word "charity" is fully applicable here.

>>11874574
Who even is this guy? I haven't been posting much and even then, I'm still a newfag since I started coming here less than a year ago.

It's wild seeing people air their seemingly decade-long grievances and have no fucking clue what they're on about, but I get it honestly. Can't see myself doing it elsewhere.

>>11871372
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=80685

based cutman mike comes up with another minimod. alternative (immersive) way to save games.

hello frendos
do any of you know how to make windowed mode not dark mode with gz doom? its kinda messing up my vibe

>>11878069
forgot pic

>>11877969
I, VolteVaris; assisted two people with their maps on JoM4; which were Punchline Commando and Atmospheric Edgeway respectively:

I did:

Punchline Commando:
>i don't actually remember lmao; was far more minor for this one.

Atmospheric Edgeway:
>The aforementioned ATMOSPHERE with transparent 3d floors for the clouds
>Improving the look of the skull fortress with better geometry and 3D floors for the torch "eyes" to stand on. An_Mutt decided to be a F A G G O T and call this a "creepy vore mouth"
>The vibrations of the lift going down, probably had a bit of help asking for how this worked since I can't fucking script.

Helping Applefat.gov and the other guy was at the cost of my own map, and my cat dying at the time left me distraught; But I had a duty to my people and the map needed to be finished, even if it wasn't great. Hence the state of "Charlie's Sector"- it was haphazardly pulled together at the end.

Of course, Jimmy's Circlejerk was indoctrinated. They aren't able to think critically; Only 25-28% of our species population is actually capable of doing so.

Honestly I think most of them were just assmad about my stealth monsters in JoM3.

My side has not changed in nearly a decade. I speak the TRUTH.

also some people have agonizing rectal pain since I liked Evolve a lot (hi, C&C nerd here), so they started a smear campaign with hilariously inaccurate image macros.

sorry for the not-retro image, it's the last time i actually drew my 'depiction' if you will. The joke has to do with a Jabroni Mike stream.

It DOES have the duo I would like to come to realization, though. (Jack Davyis and Kurou/Kur'val-sel'outh)

>>11877248
Ultima, Might & Magic and Wizardry 6-8?

>>11878082
fuck i thought i spoilered the image. OH WELL.
Here's just the general gameplay gists for them

I figured; in BYOC terms, they could translate into skins for Devil Marine and Cray for the time being until something can be ass-pulled.

Could kirby-style gameplay even be replicated for DOOM?

>>11878082
Oh, I forgot to mention:
>An_Mutt outright LYING about my changes being reverted.
They're still there in release version of Atmospheric Edgeway.

>>11877503
Apology accepted, although I'm unclear as to what you specifically mean, since everyone was almost always a dick to me here.

>>11877276
It's worth noting that I kept missing that fucking plasma battery IN MY OWN MAP. I debated about making it a secret. The map is MOSTLY where I want it to be; as I can't really think of anything to add or remove; as stated, it's a slight KV31 refrence with that doorway before the HoM Zone. (I still need to work on geometry in future maps with the techpillars being part of the boundary used to make up the HoM/Distortion areas. But the HoM Smears ARE intentional.

I think just changing the geometry slightly, minor details and texture changes (to account for the switch to Doom 2 for it's assets, I really like Blue and wanted to use the wolfenstein thing as the rocks but I'm not sure the intent is conveyed properly.)

>>11878092
>An_Mutt
Thought the name sounded familiar. Port Glacia was decent, maybe even good in terms of long sprawling maps.

How much output was Jimmy even providing during these JoM sessions? I looked at uploads and it says everywhere (Jimmy & "Various"), gives the impression of him taking credit for half the work. I might never ever know, guy could actually be talkative and efficient to guide dozens of people through the full 6 courses, with him making a full megawad within a month and whatnot. Sounds incredibly stressful.

>>11878108
I imagine he had some part in it but I do feel like Jimmy and Co. were just taking credit and exploiting new mappers who didn't know any better.

Since I wasn't entirely new; I went a little above with my prospects. I used many skyboxes and other tricks.

I even helped two people with their work at the cost of my own.

And Jimmy didn't like that.
Not. One. Bit.

>>11878115
>>11878108
Also the admin got pissy that I was doing his job for him:

>asks me for some insane bullshit I'm not remembering
>tell them off by saying it's not my fucking job to use the SEARCH FUNCTION to look up what I had said
>Discord Moderator starts sperging the fuck out, as discord moderators do.

I even had to get Whinerwing to speak to Jimmy as I was willing to bury the hatchet so to speak.

He wasn't; but claimed he wanted to "Drop it"- even though the lot of them were still smearing me and causing cognitive conditioning in the community.

And in 7+ years, my side has remained the same. But theirs? It will change repeatedly.

Now excuse me, I have to lament the loss of my previous mapping works, I was rather fond of my "OverZealous" map for Vry Spooky.

but the dropbox is purged, so it's lost now.
Just like Shajeshogjjth or however the fuck it's spelled.
Just like my void castle map thing.
Just like LOTX; my original major E1 replacement in D2 with the enceladus theme and a whole bunch of other things I wanted to get the ball rolling on.

LOTX would have been my magnum opus but unfortunately some people kept false-flagging my work on these threads as off-topic.

Here's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6qB1hGcLhg which has two of the tracks I used for LOTX

Yes, I know many of the posts in sequence are mine. It's early, I'm canadian, and a fucking NEET. What do you expect? Everyone else is either still asleep or working.

>>11878115
The most I can actually remember Jimmy & Co. helping anybody with their works was copy-pasting text at people in most instances and providing biased opinions. Xaser was helpful to some extents; I had that open rocky fireblu-nebula-kinda area but didn't know what to put into it; so Xaser pipes up and suggests a tower- which is why his name WAS etched into the floor there as part of thanks.
I could not have anticipated him opting to get huffy at me over doing exactly what he said to do.

>>11878085
also I know that nobody's really wondering, but:

>Impossibly obese pint-sized eldritch abomination which may be Azathoth's appendage, and a disturbingly anorexic fellow who's essentially a 'space/sci-fi necromancer' if you will, If you've played DTS-T.wad, you have an idea of this fellow. Now look at how the Cyborg Commando's weapon in Tiberian Sun is called the BFG9000 and you'll see where the peices for nonsensical story start falling together.

I don't know where deathmatcher is, but I was always interested in a spiritual successor to that WAD.

I thought the point of 4chan was to be anonymous

>>11878157
I WAS going to use a picture of Ornstein & Smough for their dynamic but that's "not retro"

Basically:
>Kurou is the lightning bruiser and would actually give the doomguy a run for his money, as he can't simply just 'rip and tear'- Little bastard keeps reconstituting itself.
>Jack Davyis is the ranged specialist and tactician and therefore is more like the support- even though he's the more competent of the two, he still considers his "child" the head honcho of them.

>>11878159
If that's the case why's there a namefield?

>>11878159
nta, but the guy asked first, so it's kind of understandable. it's a shame it will all be deleted once the crazy janny wakes up.

>>11878159
True anonimity doesn't exist, Anon.
Take it from somebody who joined the site in approx 2004-2007, just before everything started going to shit

>4chan was always shit
This is a PsyOp.

>>11878165
Typical Troon will tell me to "take my meds" even though most of the thinking population knows Big Pharma exists to make customers for life.
I'm not intrested in gaslighting and indoctrinating myself into a globalist cult. Fucking Klaus Schwab.

Least other people know.
Tranny Janny Bo Banny
Greasy As Randy
Never having a real Coochie.
JANNY

>>11878126
If there are any points of reference, such as the automap or playthrough video that you posted earlier, then you could attempt restoring them in practice. Although most people just tend to dump all their old works if they were sitting for far too long, as they were or with minor changes only. Starting from a clean slate is believed to be more productive, you'll hardly know what you were thinking a whole decade ago.

>>11878143
Xaser likes towers. I don't really like his maps :)

>>11878174
If the Tranny was actually intrested in perserving the quality of the threads, ONLY the off-topic posts would of been purged. Instead the intent was supression and censorship, as we all know the jannies in this thread are in the fucking Discord, and therefore are of a biased disposition to maintain the narrative arrayed against me regardless of how on-topic my posts are. That's why I don't give a fuck; they'll be deleted regardless.

>>11878157
I've seen this once covered on kmx's onemandoom blog, never got around to actually playing it.

>>11878178
There really isn't aside from old pictures in the archive; and it was a pretty extensive map...

A shame, since I was vested in /vr/y spooky, and when people weren't submitting much and were burned out, I took it upon myself to make an additional 2 maps for it; Gaerosaedris and Overzealous.

I hate maps that are nothing but architectural masturbating. Map7 of nova4 is exactly that, zero content or filling in an otherwise gigantic map (also comes with free softlocks).

>>11878213

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nkvqm7czasybpsv/vryspooky_4.rar?dl=0
This is the last one I can find of /vr/y spooky. People had a sperg at me since I couldn't figure out why a floor texture wasn't working; and instead of being reasonable and explaining it simply with a minor image and a couple of MSPaint scribbles of circles and shit; they make an overly elaborate explanation of multiple paragraphs that flew over my head and just confused me more, I was not in the wrong for nonsensical file formatting of the engine/map format itself, which didn't make any sense.

https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4441262/#4441896

>>11878241
>>11878238
"Any idiot can make something complex,
It takes a genius to make something simple"

If you're going to have Macrotecture; have the slaughtermap counts to back it up.

oh hey, found a picture of my old void-castle map thing, where I fucked around with stacked vanilla bridges. I miss it.

>>11878248
>If you're going to have Macrotecture; have the slaughtermap counts to back it up.
The nova4 map in question had 6 (SIX!) revenants in total despite being as big as some of the larger eviternity maps

>>11878241
I wish woof source port was just as pissy as old prboom. Now with woof they are lifting more and more tech restrictions and it no longer serves as a reference engine, you have to test with even more different stuff in case you botched something up. Not much left there from an actual winmbf successor.

>>11878272
>Now with woof they are lifting more and more tech restrictions and it no longer serves as a reference engine
What does that mean?

>>11878272
Never heard of Woof til now.

>>11878273
You forgot to convert png texture? It's alright, the game will eat it just fine. Dimensions are not in power of 2? It will also display correctly without any expected visual bugs. That kind of old and annoying stuff. Maybe i should consider some alternative.

>forgot about this silly dude in my flesh prisons map
Kek.

>>11878285
wait, is woof being more lenient towards these old-ass restrictions, or being more rigid?

>>11878337
Lenient. I would've really preferred if everyone started lifting these decades ago and stuck with it, but i guess there were reasons not to.

>Tranny Janny hasn't decided to "clean" (sterilize) up the thread because SArais posts hurt their feefees
nice.

LETS GO BOYS

N

>>11878354
>>11878285
Wait, so you want the limits or you don't?

>>11876480 (me)
Welp, you all can ask some questions now.
Also, choose wisely
http://poal.me/ot01ao

>>11878381
never forget https://imgur.com/a/XCUcFaK

>SArais was right, jannies were just being faggots for leverage
>>11878381
I

>>11878437
>>11876480
vaguely aware of it; busy atm.

>Kate Fox dies on the day of SArais birthday
>Story is that the computer 'caught fire' somehow even though it was purportedly off.
Story is a bit Sus.

>>11878453
>Copying his double-spacing because it's a cleaner, easier format to read and starts a fresh topic
>fuck now they'll think it's me

who's SArais? Another guy like megaman dude who jannies systematically target?

>>11878464
Yes, which probably played in part due to WHY the guy was sperging out, especially now that we hae more detail that he had some sort of slow-braindeath disease and probably couldn't understand why the fuck everyone was pissed off at them anyway.

>>11876110
welp you're not the only guy who's dealt with this
check this out: >>11878449
not even fully updates, there's been bullshit incidents since

The latest incident is somebody did an official update of the doom pic, with a different version number and everything. And it was literally not added to the news post against the rules. Which can only mean the thread was made by a janny.

And of course this is after janny literally deleted TWO THREADS IN A ROW because both people put a new version of the doom pic in OP. He then made his own gay thread called "beat to the punch" to add salt to the wound

So no, this is very much ON-topic

>>11878478
Crazy what these faggots get away with on this board with impunity. Not being able to report EVERY kind of ban including 3 day ones is the biggest flaw that lets jannies essentially do whatever the fuck they want.
Like this thread is WORSE than those gay bulletin forums with ego tripping mods and karma-fapping

>>11878481
So S'Arais screaming about being censored and everything was 100% true.
Which means his work was systematically erased and censored.
And that means since VolteVaris (formerly SArais, aberatis, GLORIUSRO, etc.) purged his dropbox
Most of the WADS are lost media

imagine if moderation actually banned deranged schizos for real instead of just letting them shit all over the place every three days

>>11878489
>Greatest crime was simply liking Evolve
>Everything's been a shitstorm since, because of the image macros made against him, which, are complete farce; as The Alfa Legion is itself a parody of itself,. and F-List profiles (LMAO) can usually be set to private; so only other retarded furfag autists can see their profiles.... meaning it's more than likely somebody they did not want to cyber, and furthermore, aforementioned xenofaggot was not aware they were being groomed by multiple parties to being a LulCow

And there's the Jannie, right on queue.
>y-you're a scizo, take your meds.
We don't need hormones like you, Axe-wound.

>>11878489
Absolutely. And the biggest question is: how many victims of janny's trannism are there? Almost nobody is in this thread 24/7 so we all miss shit
That's why I think saving all of this is a great idea.

At the very least WE will know what's actually going on and then if at any point admin decides to take this site seriously and review moderation we'll have evidence of all the bullshit.

But we need some kind of pastebin to which everybody will be able to add but not remove and then somebody to edit it so that janny can't shit it up with his bullshit

>>11878497
What exactly is "schizo" about a bunch of people creating a new doom pic and then every thread using the pic getting deleted and everybody mentioning this getting wiped?

There's evidence now https://imgur.com/a/XCUcFaK
you can't just deny shit like before

>>11878509
It's happened in so many other threads on the site, it's ridiculous really.
Apperantly SArais and TerminusEst13 started getting into a beef with eachother in a zandro deathmatch and then SA started throwing down about how Term connected from Israel or something... cooking babies in ovens or what have you.
SA's infamous for his loathing hatred of the SSG being a common-pool weapon in DM.

>>11878497
https://imgur.com/a/XCUcFaK get fucked

>>11878515
>Apperantly SArais and TerminusEst13 started getting into a beef with eachother in a zandro deathmatch

Gosh, if only they had a way to blow off steam like, I dunno, playing a violent video game together.

>>11878509
>That's why I think saving all of this is a great idea.
The archive saves everything anyways.

>>11878464
Spammy as fuck nutter with a persecution complex.

>>11878520
it doesn't save deleted posts and threads and the whole point is that janny wipes everything

>>11878521
Somebody being annoying doesn't excuse nazi level moderation

>>11878519
I know right? Instead of dragging the drama into the threads and attacking a literal retard, who's only desire was simply to provide back to the DOOM community.
INSTEAD we have the drama explode outward by sociopaths looking to use it as leverage.
Terminus was fucking angry about the map that he submitted for the Highway 2 Hell project.
I know that's not about Tranny Janny but I don't have much information on them. Probably the same guy who tried to keep stirring up drama and saying that SArais being a fucking retard somehow, in any way, prevented other people from submitting their maps (it didn't)

If you care about integrity of this community - please use the updated So You Wanna Play pic on the next thread

https://imgur.com/a/vr-doom-op-stuff-kPeNfTo

if enough of us do it at some point he'll give up and let us continue to gradually ADD to this community and not stagnate

>>11878525
I don't even know what's going on, I just wanted to be flippant.

>>11871372
ONCE AGAIN.

> New official Doom pic
> I saw all the recent threads about it and decided it makes sense to make a new version of the doom guide pic since it's been eons anyways. Obviously we have to change the version, so here you go https://limewire.com/d/PnRIH#W8PHBWwQYA

This time actually add this to the next news post. No need for sneaky bullshit

>>11878527
>Not Stagnate
That's what they want, anon. They want us to wither away.

>>11877276
Short and ugly, but expected.
Especially from somebody of your stature.
Combat feels tough and tight
Pain Ele seems a bit too easy to cheese but putting the berserk makes this feel intentional.

>>11878481
Thought they were deleted because they were posted to early. Hence the beat to the punch thing.

>>11878541
Unfortunately true. And it doesn't even come from some genuine reasoning like "I think all the new stuff is shit for <random reason>", it's literally somebody's autism not letting them accept change.

That doom pic (and all the other pics) is what, 10 years old now?
And when somebody who cares about the community and some unmentioned conversion wants to put in some time and effort to add to/improve the doom pic for the first time in 10 fucking years - they get shut down in the most bullshit, unfair and gaslighting way.
That's what gets me.

>>11878186
It's alright.

>>11878551
if you "cared about the community" maybe you'd be keen to the fact that nobody plays megaman here

>>11878549
Nope. Literally the pastebin https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB says and I quote:
> It's generally acceptable to make a new thread as early as Page 7

And the first thread was created when the old one was at page 7. The next one was created when the thread was at page 8.

Only one time - two threads before that - have someone made a thread with the new link and the thread wasn't deleted because the janny was away and when he came back there were too many posts there for him to get away with deleting the thread.
They were openly talking about it, it's in the evidence link somebody posted above.

>We are now hunting for a retarded fatfur's maps because they might themselves be evidene of a janitor disrupting things like Space Castles, Highway 2 Hell, /vr/y spooky, and more, by using said retard's predicted spergouts to being silenced as a primer.
Wild.

>>11878559
Clearly a couple people do since almost every thread it's mentioned and there's been like a couple of proposed ways to add mega man to doom pic over the year or more.

You can't say that about many other wads/conversions

And it's a bs argument anyway since a ton of shit in that pic is not played by anybody. But in this old version they insist on using that school shooter's shit wad takes up two slots just so they can have a P.S. for it.

So by your own logic you would delete like half of the entries in that picture

>>11878573
>Clearly a couple people do since almost every thread it's mentioned
What's "almost every thread"? I only see it get mentioned occasionally and it's discussion is often accompanied by a meltdown or two.

>>11878568
> the janitors don't just wipe and ban people for proposing additions to OP links
> they actually wipe and ban people who contribute to projects to sway the result in the direction they want
The rabbit hole goes deeper than I had thought...

>>11878576
> I only see it get mentioned occasionally
Hmmm I wonder why???
Could it be because... I don't know... THEY WIPE AND BAN EVERYBODY WHO FUCKING MENTIONS THE TOPIC?
(you know, as we know for a fact now due to the link with proofs posted by two or three people now)

Holy shit you are low IQ bro.

>>11878573
it's solely mentioned as part of your schizo tantrums
nobody has hosted a megaman game in years
nobody has so much as posted a megaman screenshot in years

>>11878578
Repugnus said thar /vr/y spooky was on hold due to mapper fatigue and lack of entries; Our aforementioned retard then in his strange sense of duty, worked on 2 additional maps past his submission as he wanted to help try and fill a few slots closer so that if somebody else submitted, they'd have at least 10 maps in the project.

>>11878576
>I only see it get mentioned occasionally and it's discussion is often accompanied by a meltdown or two.
i wonder why that is...
almost as if *something* or *somebody* makes a lot of posts disappear and then people get angry over it? hmmm...

>>11878584
>Could it be because... I don't know... THEY WIPE AND BAN EVERYBODY WHO FUCKING MENTIONS THE TOPIC?
I use 4chanX so the deleted posts persist until I refresh or say otherwise, so I'd say no. It's posting has certainly picked up the last month or so, though, and with more sperging out.

>>11878587
>SCHIZO SCHIZO SCHIZO
That's funny, you kept using that as an excuse against SArais and other users here, too. Unfortunately for you, that xenonigger is back in the threads.

>>11878587
> no-no y-you're a schizo
> y-you're all the same guy
keep coping, maybe they'll promote you to a janny's wipe tissue

Btw for anybody new here.
Janny is super easy to spot.
There are two main forms he takes:

1.
>>11878587
this is his fake "uncaring observer" persona.
He will samefag such posts calling everybody calling out his bullshit "schizo", but from the point of view of an unrelated third party to give his schizo claims more weight.
You can tell this is janny and not somebody who bought into janny's BS because he will never ever mention janny's faggotry. His judgement of the situation is unilateral. It's always the activists being "schizo" and never jannies being faggots.

2. pic related.
This is janny when he power trips. Short authoritative sentences with periods. Such posts always accompany wipe&bans.
I saw a similar thing on fit once, where one thread that was actually interesting and on subject kept getting taken out in favor of bs threads.

not beating the schizo allegations in the slightest

>>11878568
Give me filenames so I can search my computer. Chance isn't great that they're there, but I might as well do a Ctrl F

>>11878241

>>11878612
Gentrosenph
LOTXMS7 (? naming?)
Garosaedris
>>11875959
However the fuck this is spelled.
There's a lot of them to be quite frank. You might need to check the archive.

>>11878618
Yeah, that's the one with only the 4 maps. Vryspooky_4 had updates of those maps., as well as the ones merged in from Gerosae- however the FUCK he names these things.
Of course, since Xeno-Retard couldn't figure out the flats, some people decided to pounce upon him like wolves and exploit the reaction, bringing the total up to 9 maps, (of which, 3 were his, the rest were by repugnus and other individuals)

Isn't this spammer guy the same one who posted his cringe fat oc doodles here a long time ago? Crazy to read all this lore desu, it's fucked up but also entertaining honestly. Shine on I guess.

>They're actively trying to censor his maps and work on the Wiki too.
https://doomwiki.org/w/index.php?title=SArais&oldid=518483

>>11878641
SArais never posted his fat xeno OC here, Janny.

>>11878646
No they aren't, that page format is a clusterfuck of unconfirmable gibberish.
Hope you find your maps though. Then the wiki stub can be expanded. Into a chode or something...

>>11878641
I vaguely remember that, I guess some anons are so bored from the drama drought they're just running with shit.

>>11878646
Check the talk page. They KNOW what they're doing, They're manipulating and targeting people who contribute to the community so they can steer it in the direction THEY want, and trying to cover up the evidence

He literally warned us about "Doominati"
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Talk:SArais

>Janny still trying the "uncaring observer" phenomena as if we can't see straight through him

>>11878656
They're not mine, they're his.

>>11878656
"unconfirmable gibberish"
>MULTIPLE videos posted towards them that are confirmation
Holy fucking shit the fatfur faggot was right

>>11878657
Yeah, it was a brief, kinda weird arc in this general. My memory's kinda spotty but it was definitely some fat Nyarlathotep shit.

>>11878659
The talk page just says you were being a fucking spaz on the wiki, the thing they're supposed to maintain and moderate.
>>11878671
>Note there was a second map submitted to 300 minutes but was canned due to forced drama. It would be appreciated if it could be located
>Several maps like 'skycrack'
>Doomerboards and Doomworld maps
>Due to aforementioned /vr/ drama; many of said maps were indiffrently lost in thread purges; When the 4chan leaks (and subsequent transparent damage control) revealed several .gov and .edu ties in the administration; it suggests federal agent censorship.

I made a map once, it was called like... Spoopindall or something... And it was the best map ever. Put it in my wiki page.
By the way, there weren't any .gov addresses, just .edu.

Also, this isn't how you write a wiki, personally asking for help and spilling your >decade long drama everywhere.

>People outright citing SAraisVanu's Skycrack.wad submission as inspiration is "unconfirmable"
What else did that fucking faggot end up being right about?
https://www.wad-archive.com/search?q=SArais
"Inspired by S'Arais's rejected "Skycrack" map for Phade102's Confinement Community Project."

>>11878676
>you
I don't edit the wiki, Janny, Stop being a quadruple-nigger and stop trying to revise history. THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG.

>>11878681
I'm not the janny, I work for the NSA.

>I'M IN YOUR WALLS
>>I'M IN YOUR WALLS
>>>I'M IN YOUR WALLS
>>I'M IN YOUR WALLS
>I'M IN YOUR WALLS

> somebody that people take to be crazy turns out to be correct in calling out the secret power club that's been "managing things" behind the curtain
> most people too uncaring or dumb to notice
I literally frequent god forsaken places like this thread on this site to escape this bullshit, but seems like politics is so universal that it's just as relevant in a fucking doom thread on vr of 4chan as it is in actual governments

I only learned about SRais existence now but I support him.
And I support the mega man people.

Yes, they have their flaws and they can occasionally see persecution where it's not there, but for the most part they are right on the money and there is a secret club of jannies deciding for us what this community is gonna think/create/believe.

I like playing Doom.

>>11878681
So you're SArais' alter or someshit? You both seem the same to my ignorant ass lol

is this all still rooted down to the megaman 8 bit death match shit
cause holy shit just give it its own section on the pic and write "CAUSE YOU FAGGOTS SO MUCH CARE ABOUT WHERE THIS SHOULD GO" on it and call it a day

Janny-related evidence repository https://imgur.com/a/XCUcFaK

Respond to this post if you have compromising materials on janny's abuse of power.
Attach a relevant screenshot to your post
The truth will always resurface

>>11878703
or just don't appease annoying insane people because he's just gonna find something else to post incessantly about like 7+ year old drama because that's the only notable thing that has ever happened to him in the past decade

>>11878703
That's literally what people HAVE DONE.
There was already one thread with a new doom pic that had mega man and that nobody had a problem with. Aside from the janny of course.
So all the following threads with the new pic got deleted in the most obvious transparent way.
People called it out and got wiped and banned.

>>11878713
then somebody created an actual imgur to keep track of jannies' faggotry.

But in this thread (some of us) learned that mega man dude is not the only victim of the janny's autism

>>11878703
i guarantee you this guy doesn't even care about megaman, it's just his angle for trying to "make a mark" by forcing a change on a thread OP on 4chan

>>11878703
It'd have largely gone unnoticed had either times not replaced something already existing with it.

>>11878715
> janny is not trying to convince people that a dementia suffering doom modder is the same as the mega man guy
Holy shit this cope is getting wacky

>>11878718
> this guy
It's not one guy lmao how can you even claim this at this point

>>11878719
Literally nobody had a problem with it replacing the post scriptum for the school shooter wad. There quite literally is not a more appropriate spot on the pic to replace (with anything else)

>>11878719
The 2nd time it just went over the columbine PSA.
That was fine imo, except that I don't know if mm8bdm counts as historically notable more than any other category. Should be in the mp section.

>>11878718
Don't have to. It's about holding faggots like you accountable.
SArais, SARAIS of all fucking people, is being shown as a Martyr.

Janny is in this thread now.

>>11878718
>it's just his angle for trying to "make a mark" by forcing a change on a thread OP on 4chan
Isn't that pretty much anybody's motivation who has done any update/original creation of any of the materials in OP?
Like we all (mostly) care about these games here. But who actually wants to basically do an extra job of creating/updating/maintaining shit? So the only reason to do is if you get something in return. And the only thing it can possibly be is leaving a mark.
Pretty much works for anything else in life people volunteer to do.

Weird remark.

>>11878723
however many of you there are, or you think there are, i can still guarantee none of you give a shit about megaman or you'd have posted literally anything at all about megaman besides trying to force it into an image in the OP any time in the past decade

>>11878723
>Janny trying to convince people that Dementia Fatfur and Megaman Autist are the same person
This fucker can't be serious.

shouldnt the whle pic be updated anyway, the listed mods are seriously outdated and lot more have popped up that could do with a mention, I mean reelism already has its own second version, there's already fucking 300 and 400 mins of /vr/ and the pic mentions 200.
hell you could ever add gooner/coomer/whatever mods section with LTG, showtime, AA, stylish hell, hdoom, etc.

>>11878718
> i guarantee you this guy doesn't even care about megaman
As one of the "mega man people" I do like that mod, but I've directly said it before and I'll say it again: this is NOT about mega man anymore.
It's about not letting janny get away with faggotry.

If 95% of people here shit on mega man conversion - it's their right. But don't wipe and ban people who defend it.
If 95% of people create threads with the old version of doom pic - it's their right. But don't delete and ban people who create threads with the new doom pic.

It's literally as simple as that. And if you disagree with that - well, you're probably a janny.

>>11878734
ikr

>>11878732
First things first. Also their may well have been discussions but they got wiped and banned for all I know.

>>11878736
100%. But a more realistic and organic way to do it - is one change at a time.

>>11878734
Please take your meds.

>>11878736
It should but it's a gargantuan task, and mired in all this fuckery and conspiracy crap now so you'll never get a reasonable consensus on what needs adding or re-sorting.

>>11878746
I'm sure if you put it up for discussion a ton of people would disagree about a bunch of shit already in the pic. Obviously you'll never get 100% consensus.
But it's as simple as:
> there are good reasons to add a thing
> people support adding it
> there are no good reasons (or enough good reasons) to not add a thing
And the mega man passes this with flying colors. And many other newer wads/mods do as well.

>>11878726
> Should be in the mp section.
The obvious best fit is Total Conversions but desu it belongs to mp and historically notable as well.
I think for this version they have now they were just thinking about doing it in the most non-controversial way possible but turned out it was never about reason and always about petty power games the janny likes to play

>>11878726
>I don't know if mm8bdm counts as historically notable more than any other category. Should be in the mp section.
That was an odd placement, though so was the writeup for it calling the developer "someone passionate" or some shit like that and didn't even name him.

>>11878764
I don't think it's common to name developers in the pic, though I would like to see that change

>>11878764
I could kind of accept a better writeup for MM8BDM to be put into the MP section, but I don't have high hopes that it would be enough for the guy and that he'd settle for that.

>>11878690
Not my problem cuz I don't have a house

>>11878773
The original mega man autist is long gone (I mean last time we saw him was early spring or some shit) but he left precisely because he did choose to settle with this >>11878713
and still got wiped and banned even though everybody in the thread was fine with that writeup. It was really wholesome before some of us realized the janny won't be having any of it.

When this recent version here https://imgur.com/a/kPeNfTo was being made
that mega man autist wasn't even present. Or if he was he clearly got much tamer and more sober in his writing and ways of going about things (but I doubt it, probably just different people he may have inspired who weren't autistic)

>>11878784
Taking you at face value, would he settle for that if he came back? I don't feel like he would.

>>11878773
if I were to change it I would mention the developer's name but desu it's kinda sus how some people are super critical about the mega man's writeup, placement and everything - but this kind of scrutiny has never been applied to any other addition to any of the "so you wanna play" pics.

>>11878761
It'd probably fit better into gameplay multiplayer since some of those are basically Zandy TCs.
>>11878770
Might make sense to have the name then a line below for developer and maybe the original release date.
>>11878773
Yeah at this point it's some imagined fight against an oppressive regime so it's unlikely to blow over even by putting it in the proper place.

>>11878793
Well the actual screenshot I referenced >>11878713
has him literally saying "I don't mind if any other description is used".
Now obviously I would imagine if you actually insult the mod or him by writing "THIS STUPID BULLSHIT IS ONLY ADDED BECAUSE OF THAT ONE RETARD" I'm sure we won't hear the end of it if he ever returns, but anything reasonable like what we have now I don't see how he'll have an issue with since he's literally on the record saying he doesn't mind other descriptions

>Janny still pretending to be multiple people and using logical fallacies and mental gymnastics to justify his autism
The "super official corporate kike" attitude gives you away even on the Wiki you're a narrative enforcer on.

>>11878803
>Yeah at this point it's some imagined fight against an oppressive regime so it's unlikely to blow over even by putting it in the proper place.
It's not imagined and literally right above you have a bunch of evidence regarding two separate cases of persecution. But again once it's in there and the threads with new pic are not deleted by janny - we at least know that there's a limit to how much this community can be manipulated by jannies against people's wishes

>>11878820
Take your meds and fuck off.

>>11878823
That's probably Janny.

>>11878803
>Might make sense to have the name then a line below for developer and maybe the original release date.
Great idea but it would necessitate totally redoing the whole pic cause it'll be much larger. Which I'm not against but also too lazy to do (at least currently)

>>11878826
>Take your toxic poisons that destroy your organs and pineal glands and only exist to keep you addicted and diseased so big pharma can profit off of you and lie about vaccine injuries and other things like the CONVID Scamdemic which was meant to kill people, and Chemtrail "Geo-engineering" which is a "conspiracy theory"
Tell me you're a childfucker without telling me you're a childfucker.

>Has anyone else met this player? - Everything Else - Doomworld
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/95134-has-anyone-else-met-this-player/
>I've come across a rather crude and egotistical player in my Zandronum server as of late, and I've just been wondering lately. Does anyone know anything of them? Their name is SaraisVanu. They came into my server at first stating "Doomworld is full of faggots". Then proceeded to claim "I am God", and ...
Unfathomably based. From henceforth I put a resolute faith upon any utterance of this person, regarding everything as the one undisputable truth -- the brightest shine of wisdom. It shall be engraved deep within the codex of my psyche, so it may serve as a steadfast beacon to guide me through this darkest vale and firmly oppose the wretched hordes of ghouls that so relentlessly infested it with their vile and treachery. Unclench me from these shackles suffocating ignorance oh Exalted Being, may our enemies be crushed for eternity.

>>11878831
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>>11878836
>Doomworld is full of Faggots
It is.
>I Am God
As am I, and as are You, anon.
All things are God
What you are experiencing now as "life" is God.
The energy that permeates all things
Not some man in a white robe.

>>11878820
I'm the guy who said I could accept a better written entry for MM if it went into MP where it'd actually belong, and there's maybe a chance that the guy would let the issue go after we did that, but I'm not convinced that's certain.
I'm willing to give it a try, and I could be pleasantly surprised, but I don't expect to be.

>>11878829
Yeah, who's gonna redo the whole pic?

>>11878829
True, though it probably needs an overhaul at some point anyway.

>>11878836
>Exploiting the mentally disabled for your own agendas in the community
For shame. We've seen him show up many times, and he's not usually like that.

This heat is beating my fucking ass, I don't really feel like doing any image editing at the moment, I can't even be fucked to play any games.

>>11878842
>I'm willing to give it a try, and I could be pleasantly surprised, but I don't expect to be.
I personally don't mind. I'm now a second or third guy who made his version of the update only to get shafted by the janny.
I have 0 doubts about mega man autist accepting a sensible writeup, my only reservation is janny continuing to be an autistic faggot.

So I'm all for you doing this and then we'll see if maybe after three or four fucking people made their update including megaman - just maybe - janny will decide to accept it and stop wipe and banning threads that use the new picture.
I hope I'm pleasantly surprised about this too.

>>11878871
At this point he'd only do it to cover his own tracks.
But he can NEVER escape what he's done.

>>11878842
> Yeah, who's gonna redo the whole pic?
>>11878852

Honestly I can even see myself doing it some time in these following weeks, but I'm not gonna waste a second of my time working on a pic that the autismo janny can just decide to systematically wipe-n-ban.
Like my v.9 pic that wasn't even added to the fucking news.

And I think there a lot of people in the same position right now.
But passivity is not the answer, that's for sure.
At some point this faggot will have to cave and accept the changes that we are massively for.
And that's why we have to put some differences aside and stand up for each other cause he can only pull his bullshit when we are separated and afraid of 3 day bans for defending each other.

>>11878886
SArais and others before him are absolutely indicitive of "Divide and Conquer" tactics. He even said "even if i wasn't here they'd just find another target". He may be retarded, but victims of abuse generally understand where similar people are patterned.
Society rewards Nepotism, Sociopathy. Narcissism & other forms of vile behavior.

Posting retro vidya in a drama thread.

>>11878898
That's a nice painting.

>ICARUS FOUND YOU!!
>>ICARUS FOUND YOU!!
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>>>>ICARUS FOUND YOU!!
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>>11878898
Quack!

>>11878898
Retro Vidya Drama thread.
True, most of us don't care for MM8DM
But that image is often seen outside of /vr/
And it has every right to be up there.

>>11878901
Yeah it's pretty cool, Revae and co did a nice job with that sort of stuff, made that map very fun.

>>11878906
>>11878898
We can discuss vr any time (within the confines of what janny allows) but now is a rare opportunity to actually discuss janny's faggotry, unite in our experience of it and create a resolve to not accept it

I love you bros. He will not divide us.

>>11876503
A character with a doom theme practically screams for her own WAD. I would not be surprised.

SNS was a CIA honeypot, we're coming after you now so you can't usurp our evil reign

>>11878916
Toasty posted something with her in the other week, but I'm not sure if he mocked it up or if it's a real wad that he might release.

So I decided to bite and play that E2 replacement
It's cool, I guess? https://www.doomworld.com/files/file/18939-i-cant-see-shit-without-my-glasses/
Some very akward switch placement in e2m1 and e2m2 though.

>>11878898

>>11878893
> Society rewards Nepotism, Sociopathy. Narcissism & other forms of vile behavior.
Yup. It's simply what works without fail in letting people rise to positions of power whether it's an obscure retro vidya forum or big politics.
Shine enough ass, pretend to like status quo, network with the right people and now voila you can do whatever you please cause with the power of managing you can also manage your own tracks aka delete them.
But of course you can never delete all of it perfectly.

>>11878927

>>11878927
here's one

>>11878886
If it works and if you're going to put in the work to add multiple mods and other updates, I'd like to see Deathstrider on there.

>>11878957
Reply to the news post so your proposition is saved

>>11878957
>>11878886
>>11871372

>>11878927

>>11878857
>Exploiting
Who, me? I would sign under every his word as if they were mine. Well, maybe except for claiming a literal Godhood, I'm not that zesty.

>>11878857
I definitely do not remember Sarais proclaiming himself god at any point.

>>11878929
BINGO!
This fatfur's maps are kinda cool really.

>>11878984
Sar was more the self-depreciating type. Which makes sense when everyone was already sniping him and he was a literal brain-damaged retard autist. He was simply trying to survive and get by while working on his maps.

Not to be that guy but can we go back to discussing the actual games? Here's a cool spot I found in one of the more obscure maps thanks to the posters above

>>11879013
Pic saved won't repost it"hide this post + replies and do not make stub.":)

>Play through Incident 666
>He's putting out THIS LEVEL of quality within the first years of his mapping
Maybe a bit TOO Non-Linear
And he said it wasn't where he wanted it?
Hell.

>>11879017
It's his fursona's stomach. You just got vored and think it's cool. Kinda gay if you ask me.

>>11879013
>he is suffering from dementia

Naturally I immediately thought of The Thing you can't Defeat.

guarantee the dementia thing is made up for leverage @ pity points btw

>>11879030
It's the Nevada Underground, anon.
>Demons taking orders from The Employers and an Icon of Sin infused with their power (just a tankier bossbrain due to limitations that shoots revenant traces as well as bosscubes)
Neat?

>>11879040
Oh no, his dementia's playing up, Uncle SArry's got dementia!

>>11879040
Same, honestly. I haven't met anyone old enough to have dementia but not so old that they know how to use a computer, let alone post in 4chan. I mean there might be some exception, but this feels like dementia and more like that anon is severely schizophrenic. He might be right on some account I guess, but when a schizo comes to you talking about their delusions, you don't take their word for it.

>>11879050
I've never been to Burgerland or otherwise attached to Madness Combat. Bubble Tanks mogs the suppository stickmen.

>>11878957
Anon, respectfully lets not do that one...
DS needs to be kept niche, we dont need faggots getting in and doing stupid shit and making addons with boilerplate and gross hacks
someone already tried shoving Complex Doom on top for some ungodly reason

>>11879062
>someone already tried shoving Complex Doom on top for some ungodly reason
It's Complex Doom, they try to shove their gargantuan duct tape tower on top of everything else.

>>11879086
What actually IS Complex Doom? I've never paid attention to it before.

I kinda like the old recommendation graph with all forgotten legacy stuff in it. It's only barely contaminated with boilerplate skillsaw/jimmy choices now, and I'm sure you're just gonna put there a dozen of squonker wads with both eviternities on top and call it a day.

>>11879093
I think SOME of Jimmy's and Skillsaw's stuff is worth recommending, Valiant is still a damn good .wad for instance.
You make me interested though, what old legacy stuff?

Also, how about we hash out each section one at a time?
I'll reluctantly agree to the Megaman addition to the MP section in the hope of peace (we'll see if it holds), but we should also update the chart anyway.

>>11879013
I remember that being a picture of a dog or something... Do I have dementia now? Is it contagious?

>>11879091
At it's base it's a very old gameplay mod, more weapons, more monsters, inventory items for stuff, hotkeys for mines and grenades, that kind of stuff.

It was clunky but it wasn't terrible, but for whatever reason it got a fanbase who basically just lump on mod after mod to add even more shit to it.

>>11879091
It's basically a randomizer mod for Zandronum with reloading, upgradeable weapons, a fuckload of new monsters and some more items/powerups. It's pretty fun, honestly.

>>11879062
Fair. What other newish mods would be appropriate for the image?

>>11879017
I love the colors on this one
Was searching for some amateur lesser known wads to play

I love Doom.

>>11879142
Doom is pretty great.

>>11878784
>The original mega man autist is long gone
How is this known btw?

>>11879179
Dude I haven't posted here in forever and I don't even lurk the threads.

>>11879179
He's just saying it, and I think it's him, but maybe if we give him the one thing he'll stop making a fuss. Maybe.

>>11879142
Movement and momentum-- nothing hits quite like Doom.

>>11879142
I think Halo is a pretty cool guy.

>>11879187
Nothing bad happens when you give someone an inch, right?

>>11879194
Why is quakeman green?

>>11879196
That's obviously Bitter Man and he's always been orange.

>>11879198
Why is he bitter? Cause his game isn't that good?

>>11879195
Believe me, I know, but if he starts up some bullshit after finally getting his precious Megaman added, that would demonstrate conclusively that he's acting in entirely bad faith.

What's the big deal with Mega Man? It's like every time I scan over posts on page 1 I see one from from this thread complaining about Mega Man and it's been that way for weeks.

>>11879179
His writing style is hard to confuse with someone else. At least he hasn't been observed posting this entire summer and part of spring.

>>11879229
This is the first time I've seen him in like two weeks, don't be a bullshitter.

>>11879179
>>11879185
>>11879187
>>11879195
>>11879216
Nice try. Except that literally happened already. Result? Janny started deleting threads with updated pic and erasing and banning everybody who talked about it.
Literally just above this is dozens of posts specifically about this with literally an imgur link with screenshots.
If you actually worry about the mm autist and the janny you are severely misguided.
And I hope you actual make a new pic, try putting it in and see for yourselves.

But of course in reality it doesn't matter how many times we create yet another version with mm, there will still be that one asshole going "durr don't pander to the crazy hurr" completely ignoring the actual problem at hand.

>>11879229
In short: our janny is a liar. Mega man is just one example of his bs.
In long: https://imgur.com/a/XCUcFaK

>>11879103
Here's my rough approximation of what might be considered popular nowadays
>Red: perpetually sustained popularity
>Yellow: seldom mentioned, barely anyone actually plays
>Blue: mostly completely forgotten, for one reason or other
>Gray: i have no opinion of

>>11878573
>>11879229
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/11859525/ (last thread)
>ctrl + f "mega m"
>0 results
>ctrl + f "megam"
>0 results
1/10 for getting me to reply

>>11879229
No smoke without fire innit?

Isn't it curious that the one afternoon that janny decides to take a day off and watch some hentai the discussion immediately shifts to everybody hating on him and there are two separate series of incidents involving janitorial bullshit?
Almost as if there's a lot of revenants in his closet and the moment he's not here to wipe and ban everybody speaking out - they all fall out.
Weird.

>>11879250
This is probably a subtle bait, but I'll bite:
the entire fucking point is that janny deletes fucking posts. How do you still not get this?
And maybe there's been like one thread recently with no mega man ever mentioned because everybody who ever talked about it was banned, but the general statement that it's spoken about in virtually every thread is true.

I think these guys are just crazy, and they're currently having a meltdown.

as somebody who doesnt give a shit about megaman or sir SSRI or whatever his name is I would rather have this thread (and the board) be like this with occasional drama I don't care about but I know that it's an actual even field where everbody is free to voice their opinions as opposed to a "clean" version of the thread where some autist is sweating 24/7 to erase some random bits he doesn't like. fuck that Stalinesque shit

>>11879263
> n-no they are j-just crazy haha
Not today. https://imgur.com/a/XCUcFaK

>>11879265
occasional? You'll be seeing this shit on a threadly basis.

>>11879059
I mean, if his dementia was supposed to be progressing so much 8 fucking years ago that he already had serious trouble making maps then, it seems unlikely that he would still have skill to write and post here. Is dementia without brain tumor or progeria even possible with person that young?

But maybe he isn't lying, maybe he is actually schzophrenic. Since he doesn't trust doctors, he might be self-dianosing himself and failing at that. Memory issues are part of schizopheria too, and schizos usually tend to think that they have anything else than schizophrenia.

My uncle had schizophrenia and he became very violent paranoid without his meds, and even tried to kill some members of our family. Luckily he took his meds and turned back into that kind person who he really was, and whom we all loved. He is gone now, but I will always love him.

So Sarais, if you are reading this, just listen to doctors even if it seems bad idea now. You are a good guy and that disease is just making your life and your social relations worse until you find yourself on some nuthouse forcibly medicated. You can be a good mapper, and respected part of /vr/. Just take care of yourself, ok.

>>11879271
we're only seeing it as a protest to janitorial abuse (for the most part). Actual spam and insanity should still be removed. But even if it's not, I'd rather manually filter it than knowing that we're not truly free and that we're not seeing everybody's contributions.

>>11879269
>Posting the same imgur link for the umpteenth time
Try posting some new material instead of just spamming the one link and going "look! look! the jan-nees are being mean!!!"

>mfw a braindamaged terminally online gay furfag gets to be the hero and the face of the resistance
Truly, we lurk in a society.
See ya in three days, gentlemen.

might as well not make a new thread after this shitshow

>>11879274
It's all good, he'll just die and his ghost will possess the family ute, he's Ute SArais!

>>11879301
I'd be fine for a few days or a week or two of no Doom thread here.

>>11879301
It's just one guy with serious mental health problems. Don't let that force you out of here. Technically we can't even blame him for shitting this thread. It's just his brain.

>>11879285
Try posting some new material instead of "hurr durr nothing ever happened, nothing to see here he-he, you're all just crazy-... I mean the only one guy who ever complains about jannies - you're a schizo"
it's embarrassing how much effort you're putting into protecting a temporarily absent janny

also abusing your powers is not just being mean. It's unacceptable. Faggot.

>>11879301
Absolutely, stop making threads with the old imgur link.

>>11879301
> this is how much people are afraid of some virgin with a banhammer
Truly sad.

>>11879304
Yeah somehow this is now more unhinged than Doomerboards.
>>11879310
I can blame the anons eating it up because it plays into their own delusions.

I feel like I'm participating in a lucky glitch in the matrix. Something similar happened when a thread with the new picture was allowed to live, jannies were discussing how normally somebody would just wipe it but that somebody apparently stopped being a janny? And then I guess some new faggot replaced him.
My only question here is how deep does it go.
Something tells me mods are well aware and are in on it. In which case the situation is grim.

But there are many historical examples of people being able to effectively sabotage the tyrannical system. If people did it against actual militias and governments so can we.

I promise you next thread when they go back to their nazi shit, the (only) argument (allowed to exist) will be "heh, see how much of a shitshow this thread turns into, without me, your favorite janny? ;)" and everyone will be forced to read these retarded messages from him sucking his own dick and post strictly "on-topic".
For at least three more days.
God, I hate these faggots so much.

*turns to the camera* well that just happened =/

Would you say it's too much of a jump to go back to all the original episodes with UV+fast+pistol start and no saves mid-mission when my normal mode is UV and a ton of saves any time I want?

>>11879312
And it's embarrassing how much you're pushing for a random mod that no one cares about to be added to the image. Why not add REKKR? Why not add Brutal Doom or Knee-Deep in ZDoom? Oh, that's right, you don't care about those, you only very specifically care about a Mega Man mod.

>>11879274
I know it personally, been dealing with it for maybe half of my life. Not sure if memory gaps are a thing, but I got in the habit of keeping a diary because I'd lose all sense of time or black out. Shit's scary.

Either way, hope whoever this guy is gets better.

damn, if only a certain event had happened earlier this year where we had to find a second home with moderation that gives a shit

>>11879343
I absolutely don't mind if they replace some of the irrelevant useless mods in the pic.
The reason - I'll remind you - there's so much buzz about mega man specifically is because this could've been a solved issue months ago. But janny artificially resists this change abusing his power.
If that wasn't the case I promise you there wouldn't be nearly this much discussion around it.
And similarly if janny was doing this to knee-deep in zdoom - it would've been the same thing. Some people just aren't cucks and won't accept oppression.
As far as BD goes - it's bullshit made by a retard. Arguable belongs in historically notable due to popularity but eh

>>11879349
I was hoping so much that all of the mods would change and people who actually care would replace the old ones but nope, it went right back to the same bullshit of janny faggotry and mods apathy.
Some boards are filled with retarded spam, some boards are wipe-n-ban on sight. Some are both

>calling BD bullshit while defending megaman
Great thread.

Bring back doomchan

>>11879371
that dude just quit while he was ahead. no one wants to moderate internet communities, let alone 4chan ones for a good reason

Just post about games, mods, modding and mapping and stuff and ignore "those posts". It seriously saddens to see one mentally ill person wrecking whole community just because he is having an episode. Don't let that break you. Don't let that destroy this place.

If we were going to add something to "historically notable shit", I would've made the argument for Batman Doom. It's a late-'90s mod that completely overhauls Doom II and manages to pull off some cool effects through extensive (ab)use of Dehacked.

>>11879393
The enemy that picks up rocks and throws them at you is the coolest shit ever done on dehacked to this day.

>>11879393
>play with Bolognese Gore
>The Dark Knight Returns mode unlocked

>>11879248
Speed of Doom is one of the most popular megawads out there, and Alien Vendetta and Plutonia 2 are still talked about enough to be worth keeping. Should also just replace E1M8b/E1M4b with Sigil 1 and 2.
Really, making a distinction between "megawads" and "level packs" is kinda pointless imo, just add a little note next to each WAD with the number of levels if it's really necessary.

>>11878437
Soooo...Can Someone atleast say something to this?

>>11879432
i don't have the slightest clue what i am looking at. all i can tell you is i recognize some 2kki characters

>>11879393
Agreed, that shit was really fucking impressive for it's time, still pretty fun too.

>>11879248
There's a certain megawad missing from the normie popularity tier