Thread 12021923

2 screens sure why not Edition

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>>12021728
yeah, TWiLight Menu. Worked well for DS roms but emulating other systems wasn't great, SNES was awful in particular

you don't even play video games

I think egonomics on the Thor are going to be terrible, as we have already seen with the ayaneo pocket flip. For this reason I'm no longer excited about these handhelds and I'm just waiting for the Flip 2 to drop in price to replace my RP4.

>>12022006
*pocket ds. Also cuz of Russ impressions

>>12022006
>>12022010
Why are you just willingly ignoring the fact that ergonomics for handhelds has always been critically dependent on your own hand size?

>>12021923 (OP)
What devices have unique designs or features, even if gimmicky? For example, the R36T imitating a CRT with the curbed border and plastic convex lens over the screen.

>>12022023
Another one is the absurd keychain-sized FunKey S.

How is discussing Android-run chinkhelds considered retro here, but talking about Persona 4 isn’t?

>>12022021
Maybe, but seriously no matter the hand size, there's no way that a dpad and joystick placement that close to the edge and bottom is confortable to use. I had to buy a tpo grip for my RP4 to be confortable and I have medium sized hands. I think the flip 2 did well in that regard moving the dpad and face buttons to the center. But with these dual screen devices there's no room

Is this site accurate?
https://www.comparehandhelds.com/compare/retroid-pocket-flip-2-vs-retroid-pocket-mini-v2

>>12022038
Ask a mod buddy

>>12020801
Konkr offers the same specs as the Odin3 but with more buttons and $30 cheaper.

>>12022006
>>12022010
>>12022084
Come to my side, lads. We have candy.

What's a good SD card reader? I'm starting to suspect the no name one which came with my anbernig is what's fucking up my cards

>>12022316
Anker, Baseus and Ugreen are generally reliable brands.

>>12022275
the candy he's talking about

>>12021996
I don't play games - I make love to them

>>12022275
Looks awful, but it still looks more comfortable than the "pocket" ds or the thor

>>12022084
I like that rainbow one. Maybe that’s the one I’ll buy someday when I’m rich and can afford nice things.

Quick question anons, I have a few PSP that I don;t have chargers for so I plugge dthem in on A 2 AMP USB fast charger on the USB connector. I have nothing, no light orange or green on the power led. Is it worth buying the non USB official PSP charger or are they dead. Same thing if I do with wth the battery out. Tried leaving them psitting with the USB power in and same.

>>12022023
I had this famiclone with a built in clock and compass. it had a built-in 180-in-1 and the non-bootleg nes games were on a sd card

>>12022006
It's a necessary sacrifice for the bottom screen unless you make the handheld weirdly long.

>>12022460
>USB connector
Pretty sure you have to plug in the barrel jack to turn on a PSP with no battery. USB charging works if its on in the settings

>>12022482
thanks, no light on usb is normal then I guess. Thank you

Anyone here have the 35xxSP? How are the buttons on the new versions? Any hinge issues?

I wish they made a device with the exact dimensions of the miyoo mini plus with a brighter oled screen and slightly better processor. Now THAT would be a dream handheld

>>12022006
Both devices seem to be following the 3DS style layout with the addition of stacked shoulder buttons and a proper analog stick at the problem. Because of the dual screen in the middle, ergonomics are undoubtedly going to be fucked as a result for anything besides 3/DS games. No real sense in paying for anything besides the cheapest model of either to emulate 3DS games and call it a day.

>>12022502
face buttons are ok but the dpad had no change so could be a long term problem if you don't do anything (taped mine but might add washers)
no problems with the hinge

Its almost 2026 and the 40xxh is still the best chinkheld ever made

>>12022023
This is cool but it would look better with a more rounded off case with a more round elevated bezel. Think Turbo Express, not like a 1970s TV as it is now.

>>12022226
why do they have to link RAM to storage? paying 50% more for 8GB of RAM is retarded.

>>12022613
Church

anyone have a modded switch? i was thinking of buying a used switch lite and modding it with my limited soldering experience
i think it could be my widescreen retro machine and a streaming device, while also running switch games natively even if the hardware is shit
im not happy about switch emulation on android and i dont want a huge machine like the lenovo legion whatever

Lost in old thread,
should I buy the Thor now if I'm going to anyway? Or do anons think it'll be cheaper within a couple months?

>>12023041
It won't get cheaper than the preorder offer, but the issie is more on if the product is actually good or not

Guys, is any of those new retro handhelds good enough to use for LSDJ? I wonder especially about sound quality, saves (when I used chink clone of everdrive GB and original GB it had problems with saving ). Also for LSDJ you need certain setup of keys (you use select+dpad to change screens) so for example GBA key setup would not work with it

>>12022938
I have a softmodded switch. Great device, easily have 2tb of games. a lot of them would be good on my steam deck but If they're just as good

>>12022613
i hope so coz i just bought one

Any reason to get the 12 or 16gb Thor? Switch only has 4gb ram and that seems to be the peak here.

>>12023242
well, you have a second screen that can run anything at the same time as the game/emulator

>>12023041
Wait for hinge testing

>>12021923 (OP)
After beating DuckTales 2, finishing off the 4 major DuckTales Capcom titles from back then, I'm feeling sort of... depressed? It's like, what now? I got home from work and I knew I wanted to play them, now that I did and got closure it feels good, but I'm not in the mood for anything else just yet. Anyone else here goes through this sometimes?

What's a good site to download roms from? I remember there was one full packed of GBA and NDS roms but it was some 15 years ago and I can't seem to find it again, nor I remember the name. I tried looking with google but half the sites I get either bitch about ublock or are considered unsafe by firefox.

I want to get the Thor so bad, but there's a few things stopping me:

1) Ergonomics seem shit. That d-pad placement is as bad as the RP5.
2) Hinge seems to be the exact same as the Flip 2 and will most likely break.
3) It may have the same input lag delay as the Odin 2

>>12023754
Just google it. First result usually leads you to reddit which leads you to myrient.

>>12023127
Test it on your PC, Gambatte is the core normally used for GB on everything, IIRC low end is too slow for SameBoy. Sound quality is pretty meh, speakers aren't great save for a few select ones, interference while WiFi is in active use.
>Also for LSDJ you need certain setup of keys (you use select+dpad to change screens) so for example GBA key setup would not work with it
Just rebind select.

Is the Retroid Pocket Mini V2 good at emulating gamecube / PS2?

>>12023785
If you're worried about economics just take the grip pill. That's what I did for my N3DSXL and it felt so much better. I understand not wanting another peripheral to carry along or not wanting to add bulk. But in the end there will always be tension between ergonomics and portability. I'm happy using a grip at home and maybe going without it when I travel. The reality is if I ever do use these handhelds on the go it's never for extended periods to where ergonomics would really bother me.

>>12022084
>>12022006
>>12023785
The answer to the question is obvious..
It's whether or not they pick up the ball they've dropped.

Going to buy my first handheld. After going through all the cheap options I'm down to R36H or Trimui Smart Pro. They can both do everything I want so what I'm debating is the screen size. How much does it matter? I don't want to buy R36H and then be mad over the small screen have to buy the Trimui anyway.

>>12024586
Trimui might be a bit more reliable

>>12023723
Well, I managed to pick something. I'm trying out Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters 2: Dark Duel Stories for Game Boy Color, it's finally got a proper translation thanks to Konami's recent compilation and I've been wanting to play it for years, I'm genuinely happy to be able to try this, also love how similar it is to Forbidden Memories, my childhood favorite.

>>12023785
>It may have the same input lag delay as the Odin 2
It won't, the Odin 2's input lag is due to its screen. The Thor is using a much better 120hz panel.

>>12022153
I'm not your buddy, guy.

>>12023950
it'll run everything great, but in reality playing 6th gen games on that small screen (3.7" for 4:3) is a shit experience. get something with a bigger screen

>>12024816
I'm not your guy, pal

>>12024984
I’m not your pal, homie

>>12023723
galerians was a lot shorter than I thought so I took a brake from survival horror. It doesnt help it had a pretty sad ending too

>>12024586
apparently there is a R46H now with a bigger screen

>>12025324
https://handhelds.wiki/R46H

Come home white man

>>12025708
Mods, what am I supposed to report AI spam images as? Because whenever I report this guy’s posts as spam nothing happens. Reporting my own post so you have to read this.

>>12022038
Because persona is for faggot weebs.

>>12022038
Its been said before. Mods just like chinkhelds. That's literally it. This board also went down the shitter in general.

>>12025863
>China numbah one instead of japan numbah one
You're still a race traitor, brah. If everyone in the thread had nvidia shields instead of trusting chink hinges they'd be more stable. Not counting powchaddy of course.

>>12024602
>>12024602
>>12025332
Thanks, I'll look into the R46H, pretty funny how it's priced exactly between the two others as well!

>>12025895
I’m sorry to tell you this, but you’re not Japanese.

>>12026243
>Thinks I want to be a different race like the rest of his retarded iek
>Thinks japan I posted a chinkheld and mentioned the shield
I can see how chinks and jeets keep scamming you. That said, I bet it was the powchaddy comment that set you off? Still assmad retroon can't make a hinge to save their lives?

>>12026362
Powkidddy engineers were either selectively bred to be good hinge desingers or they worked on laptops before handhelds.

>>12026362
Why does max spend 65 percent of his time shitposting on baidu even when he's working? His comments against retroid/ayn always tend to be unhinged as shit.

>>12026386
This is going to sound hard to believe, but miyoo, powchaddy, and trimui are the only chinkheld companies to not spend time shitposting. Max is way more entertaining than say, ayaneo, but what makes his special over there is his personality and honesty.

>>12025863
-retarded American wigger
"me black"

>>12026434
Based nigger. What's your favorite jarpig on for handheld play?

>>12026362
What’s wrong with you?

>>12026462
>Mentioned the chadvidia shield [Lol at kekvidia being chads], an apemurican clamcell.
>Pic was the neogeo x. A licensed chinkheld that was ALMOST decent
>Somehow that made me the japophiliac and not a based niggerxchinkhold who helps powchaddy
Sniiiiiiiiifffffs! Kill retroid. Rape retroid employees. Behead chris from retroid. Steal ayn's oled screens. Roundhouse kick moorechip for helping make the flop 2. Buy anbenric. Believe in max zhou. Support game console 3326 ewaste. Gift 3326 to local povery's and let them experience rocw and half life in portmaster. Cuck the portmaster devs foe being leh anti piracy.

>>12026479
I’ve said 20 words and you’re going off on insane schizo rants. Get help.

>>12026496
>S-Schizo!
Average retroon deflection. Once they load of them crt shaders they oogle at the screen for 5 minutes and set their devices down for giving them carpal tunnel syndrome. Meanwhile, chink phone clamps ACT as the grips. Holy shit woly kit. Kosher salt while rolling a splif. Linux on dex was cancelled in a jiff and snapdragon is kinda lit.

How are the ergonomics of the Odin 2 Portal with grip? Thinking of upgrading from my G-Cloud and the only thing holding me back was that it's ergonomics felt perfect.

>>12026515
based schizo hates everything (especially retroid)

>>12026847
he prasied powshitty and game console like two posts ago

>>12026865
>he prasied powshitty
based schizo has good taste

>>12024934
I'll play stretched if need be. Really the only thing I need is the smaller size, people have compared it to a Vita and that would be perfect.

>>120266161
I don't own a g cloud but...
The portal+grip is the only chinkheld that I can actually play for multiple hours without any sort of hand cramping, might be a big hands thing.

I think the g cloud does the same in giving you two perfect rounded corners to "palm" and hold in a very relaxed way that fills your hand. It was enough for me to sell my steam deck.

>>12021923 (OP)
I'm thinking of biting the bullet and getting a dedicated handheld to emulate up to PS1, don't care much for N64 or Saturn. Is the R36s still good or has it been replaced in this price range? Also how do I get handhelds the cheapest without being tricked? I haven't bought one before and I'm anxious about screwing it up, how do I avoid inferior clones reliably too?

>>12027371
Vertical devices really aren't comfortable

Odin 2 Portal!

>>12027371
>Also how do I get handhelds the cheapest without being tricked?
aliexpress, look for store name that is e.g. 'Ampown Online Store' and not 'Shop11054873' and if the prices looks too good to be true, it probably is.
also aliexpress has a 'coins' thing where you can get further discounts but you need to daily collect them, or get them for placing orders and writing reviews.

Odin 2...Portal!

You think the 3 Portal will be different in any ways besides the Elite chip?

I asked in another thread but w the VB coming to switch I was wondering which 3DS is the best for emulating VB and older systems and games and how far can you go with 3ds emulation?

Odin... 2 Portal!

>>12027501
new3ds since the 3d effect is more stable. As for how far it can go, rpgmaker 2k-2k3 kinda counts.

>>12027579
Word I’ll def check that one out then. Thanks for the info

>>12027579
Is the Zelda version fine? If I’m gonna go for one figure I might as well go w the most aesthetically pleasing to me.

Hey, it's >>11973056 again.

I'm enjoying the Miyoo Mini Plus a ton, and it's supplanted my Steam Deck as the retro gaming device, since it's nice to leave the Deck suspended on something besides RetroArch, and also keeping any progress made on the device I always have in my pocket. I'm not really much of a stickler for super accurate emulation, ideally it'd be cycle accurate, but I can manage with even allegedly "low quality" emulation.
Even still, I notice that emulating GBA games on my Steam Deck just "feels" better, than on the Miyoo Mini Plus, and wanted to ask why this is?

Please note, don't try to tell me it's impacting my gameplay, or give me really subjective stuff like "it increases the skung factor." My most played game in the past few days, on both systems, is Sonic Pinball party, and with save state + rewind fuckery some of these shots are tighter than a Royal Guard parry from DMC3, maybe even frame perfect, and I'm able to land them relatively consistently on both ("relative" because it's fucking pinball, even on a physical table I'll miss some of them). But again, I will concede that it just "feels" better on my Deck, beyond the higher resolution and ergonomics, and want to ask why is that?

Are some of the frames maybe lasting too long on the MM+? Does it run at like 57 fps instead of 60? I'm curious why there's such a discrepancy that I can feel it, but not easily see it, and I'm not asking because I think you guys are lying, I just never really cared enough to look into it since if an emulator doesn't outright break my game then I'd always considered it "good enough"

thanks

>>12027670
I've never had a MM myself but chances are you are hit with one of the following:
>the screen itself isn't as high quality as the steam deck
worse response rate etc
>the OS on the MM is laggier/doesn't do as well getting around input lag
I don't recall if MM is android or linux but its probably not a super up to date version
>the emulator you are using on the MM has more input lag than the one on the steam deck
presuming both are using retroarch that shouldn't be too big of a thing tho
>the steam deck is strong enough for better emulator settings
like run ahead to reduce input lag, but you probably haven't set that

FPS drops are possible, but gba isn't particularly high spec. I'd personally bet its a worse response rate + 16-66 ms of input lag (gba sp native is 33ms vs 16 gba I think?)

Found some guy selling his used Arc-D very cheap on a local (as in from my Country) online marketplace. But I wanted to make sure there are no gotchas with this device before I got it. Is it any good (build, dpad, etc)? Is there any need to replace the stock firmware?

>>12028195
Damn looks like it could’ve been a game gear revision

>>12028206
Yeah, I find its design really appealing. It's the main reason I want to get it to be honest kek

>>12028195
It’s pretty great in terms of ergonomics, buttons feel nice, haven’t really noticed any false inputs (though my point of reference is M30 which had some shitty false diagonals, haven’t held a real mega drive controller since I was a kid). Stock Linux refused to run any games, maybe the SD-card was just that shit, no idea. Stock android was okay, ended up flashing GammaOScore, works fine but Daijisho refuses to work with the standalone Yaba Pro 2 standalone app. Some people use Rocknix, haven’t tried it myself though since it doesn’t work with Android

Odin! 2 Portal...

>>12021923 (OP)
Hey fags!

Just purchased msi claw a8 bz2em. Slapped down excess cash I had laying around. You kids better recognise the real men in this thread and take your rockchip chinesium processors that can't run a REAL OS or even an MP3 and cry in the corner with your BING BING WAHOOS!

AMD
Speaking of efficiency, the topic of Arm vs. x86 came up here, as it does every year. AMD, almost like Intel recently, declared that the myth that x86 can't be efficient was refuted last year. Both AMD Ryzen and Intel Core can offer extremely long runtimes in notebooks, while accessing the entire x86 ecosystem. Ultimately, the overall package doesn't offer an advantage for Arm.

oDIN 2 porTAL...

>>12027371
Like >>12027383 said, vertical devices aren't terribly comfortable. It still sounds like a good device at its very low pricepoint, but personally I prefer something like the RG40XXH more compared to its vertical equivalent. About the same width/thickness as my phone with its case on, but more comfortable to play older games on due to being wider, and I think its worth it for how cheap it went for on sale (paid about 70 CAD so probably 50 USD). Probably not more powerful though for an up to PS1 device but may have slightly better build quality to make up for it.
As for buying the cheapest handhelds consistently on something like Aliexpress, they have pretty frequent sales. Just check not only the product but the store ratings as well. I unfortunately can't speak on not getting duped by any clones but I think there's only really there's only the one vertical model with a 3.6" 480p screen with the D-pad on top.

>>12028581
Gay nigger sex.

>>12028581
if it wasn't for the wrong dpad placement, I would not be able to tell it apart from an RP5

>>12027769
>worse response rate etc
maybe. The timing of the shots in SPP are identical, but the "smoothness" of the gameplay feels a bit off on the MM+ compared to the Deck. the easiest way to put it is that I swear it's like some frames feel a few milliseconds faster or longer than others

>I don't recall if MM is android or linux but its probably not a super up to date version
I don't think the OS would impact it much, because OnionOS and the MM+ in general is rooted in Linux, and so is the Deck. I can say from experience though, since I have multiple PCs, every game I've played on my gaming Windows PC feels better than on my Linux PC. And it's not a power issue, because both can max out Sonic Robo Blast 2's 144 fps for my monitor. But the "off" feeling going from my Windows PC to my Linux PC, with SRB2, is the same weird off-ness I feel going from the Deck to the MM+

>presuming both are using retroarch that shouldn't be too big of a thing tho
yeah, I don't think it's a retroarch issue since both are using it

>like run ahead to reduce input lag, but you probably haven't set that
I might on the Deck, it's been so long since I tweaked performance settings. I know I knew enough about that aspect of RA to actually open up the performance settings menu and try tweaking it, only to to undo said tweaks since it was too much for the MM+ to handle.

Also to ask another question to the thread, is there another chinkheld with better specs, as popular as the MM+, with an OnionOS styled suspend? I ask because I was curious and looked on Etsy for knickknacks and MM+ paraphenalia, and after seeing the absolute swathe of novelty stuff like primo buttons/d-pads, color options, accessories, etc, I'd enjoy having those options for when this piece of shit inevitably shits itself too, going by what Anons in the archive say is inevitable with all chinkhelds.

ODIN... 2... portal?

why does nobody talk about the massive latency of android devices?

>>12028396
Nice, that sounds good to me. I will order it from that guy. Thanks, man.

>thor looks like shit
>odin 3 looks like shit
the rp6 is gonna suck isn't it

>>12022038
Most are Linux-based still. Android has only recently been gaining.

>>12029236
The stick will be on top. Russ did this.

>>12029238
There were always more android chinkhelds than linux. If anything, the linux one's only gained more traction when the 3326 odroid clones started getting made. Now you can shit out an easy 3326 with arkos instead of slapping android on a 3128

>>12029418
>There were always more android chinkhelds than linux
going by the retro catalog list:
76 android
122 linux

>>12029423
>Retro catalog, a website where they list handheld far back as 2017 at best. With the odd handheld covered by a youtuber like the openpandora
Really nigga?

>>12029435
oh, was there a flood of 50+ android handhelds before 2017 that tips the scales?

>>12029440
The literal hundreds of crap by jxd? Yinlips? Did you think the xd was gpd's first handheld? Did you forget the all the tablet manufacturers adding controls to their cancelled/discontinued tablets? Most, but not all, android chinkhelds weren't even linux in those times. They were altered feature phone os's.

>>12029447
>The literal hundreds of crap by jxd?
I told you a millions times, don't exaggerate

odin 2 portal...

>>12029447
bruh there is a bottomless pit of old linux chinkhelds that have been lost to time

>>12029552
>Missed the part where I mentioned how most of those literally weren't linux
Reading comprehension

>>12029573
Also that slider was made by anbernic before they were anbernic. Hell before they even made the pap psp clones.

bought retroid pocket mini v2, did i fucked up?

Anberniggas what are the chance we get a mid-range performance dual screen clamshell within a year?

>>12029974
Quite high, however the nitch they would fill compared to higher powered ones seems a small one. The others make faux pas so often it seems a waste not to take advantage..

>>12029964
Nah, the v2 is fine

>>12028581
>>12028696
>>12029534
Mental Illness.

0D1N TWO P0R74L

>>12027670
Might be the refresh rate on the screen, that it might not be exactly 60.000 but slightly less or more.
The core cycles might be slightly off, you can test that by leaving a game with an in game timer running on both devices to see if the differentiate after some time (like Mario kart)

Best method for ripping game saves off of 3DS cartridges?

>>12030243
he's right behind me isn't he

>>12030331
0D1N TWO P0R74L

I bought the dual screen add on (I had surgery and was stuck in bed, sue me, figured it was low-risk/high-reward) and the piece of shit finally came in. If there are any games any anon would like to test, add it to the list and I'll get to it at some point tonight. On the list:
>DS: infinite space, etrians, spectral force genesis (no-budget stylus-controlled dragon force clone)
>3DS: etrians, whatever the fuck else it was an etrian/soul hackers machine for me in retrospect the DS was way better

holy shit still no oled vertical with quiet buttons, see yall in another 6 months

>>12029110
Everyone already knows about how laggy lagdroid devices are. They just don't care anymore.

>>12030740
I tried Monster Hunter 4 for the 3DS in my Retroid Pocket 4 pro and it stuttered heavily at the beginning when rendering a lot of stuff.
I still need to try tuning more configurations but I guess you can use that game to benchmark

>>12031072
RP5, so I suppose so. I could never get into any action games on the 3DS proper due to the awkward controls.

It's really hard waiting for the Thor bros...

I feel like the d-pad on the miyoo mini V4 is not reading my imports at times. Any "mini" alternatives with better D-pads?

>>12031740
>he didn't buy the brick from the beginning
literally bricked.

>>12031782
Funny enough I bought my miniv4 a week before the brick launched. In my defense I was probably new at the time.

Hope the Miyoo Mini Flip is good

>>12031740
crack it open and reseat the membranes. also check the face buttons for sprue that needs to be clipped off, tape the shoulder buttons if they feel underwhelming. I hated mine and sold it

I'm a massive handheldfag despite having a really good desktop PC and discovering these things over the past few years has made me waste a ton of money. I also ordered the Ayaneo Pocket DS, Flip 1S and Ayn Thor. I'm also considering the Win 5 because it looks so janky.

So far this is what I have:

GPD Duo
GPD Pocket 3
GPD Pocket 4
GPD Win Mini
GPD Win 4
GPD Win max 2
GPD MicroPC
GPD MicroPC2
Ayaneo Flip DS
Ayaneo 3
Ayaneo Pocket Micro
Ayaneo Pocket Ace
Ayaneo Pocket S2 Pro
Retroid Pocket Mini
Retroid Pocket 5
Anbernic RG Slide

>>12022006
The ergonomics on the Flip DS are pretty bad, yeah.

>>12032009
Under 3 hours of use on all of them, right?

>>12032016
The only one I don't use that much is the Flip DS. I play the Win 4, Mini and Aya 3 in my chair when I'm in front of my PC. The Max 2 is hooked up to an egpu in my living room with my flight sim setup. I used the Pocket 3 for a couple of years, it replaced my X1 nano. The Pocket 4 I just got this month and I like it a lot more than the 3 so far, mainly because of the color. The Ace, S2 pro, Retroids and Anbernic were all bought this month, so I haven't had a lot of time on them. The slide actually came in a few hours ago.

>>12032042
I forgot to mention that the Duo and MicroPCs are my Linux machines. I just think small tech is neat.

What is Azahar's latency like on SD Gen 2? I got a 3ds but gotta admit the screen is kinda shit.

>>12032127
bro, your grip is disgusting.

>>12022006
>I'm just waiting for the Flip 2 to drop in price to replace my RP4.
You won't believe the number of times I've read this exact comment, sounding eitherike an add or a braindead npc. Sorry for you're loss

>>12032009
now this is real brain problems

>>12032138
Not mine. Just comparisons from some redditor. Making me consider a Thor.

Bros....do I just buy a steam deck?

>>12032190
If you dont feel like tinkering with winlator or wait for proton on arm,, yes.

>>12032183
all screens look like shit on photos.
you need to see then in person, the 3ds is not as bad.

>>12032190
it has a shitty d-pad, and it's gigantic. I always use my TSP rather than my Steam Deck for retro games

>>12022531
Yep, that's what I'm gonna do too. Then for the other system I'll see what I can get, maybe something with a bigger battery and screen like the Odin 2 Portal or whatever new version they launch in the next few months.

>>12024561
>>12030025
If you place those dpad-joysticks a bit diagonally like that one Ayaneo whatever the fuck that has those reversible things, then it would be perfect. Sad thing is that you would have to make the device a bit wider.

>>12032229
The main reason they have diagonal placement is to find the most ergonomic compromise between directional inputs like shown here
>>12022275
This device's screen is 7" in length enabling more ergonomic placement of controls. But the swappable nature of the other design is to "min-max" the ergos on ether directional input. In most games, the other directional input is usually used in a menu or as hotkeys. This design is focusing the ergonomics for their primary use, while respecting the original design's size.

>>12032009
Anon you have an addiction to consuming :(.

odin 2 PORTAL

>>12032432
What game is that?

>>12032442
ty

What happened to my screen and how do I fix it

>>12032761
Anon, this is clearly AI. Those buttons are UNUSABLE.

>>12030740
Dragon Quest IX
Kid Icarus: Uprising

>>12032761
the glue holding the screen layers together has separated
>fix it
haha

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1nj7657/ayn_thor_real_photos_white/
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>>12031782
That looks like shit.

>>12032127
If you're going to repost shit from Reddit, you might as well not post anything at all.

>>12033436
it does but I can't place why since I assume he's just using the lcd3x shader

>>12030859
just mod a pocket classic?

>>12033553
Because it looks like shit.

>shows DS gameplay to hype unreleased dual screen handheld
>mirrored image in both displays
why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kbjZQN4naY

>>12033883
Because you’ll buy it anyway. Consumer sheep. Fuck you.

>>12033883
Seems like an emulator issue.
Most DS/3DS emulators can't output each screen to a different display. People are gonna find out the hard way that this shit won't work properly.

>>12033883
At least they showed it actually doing what it’s supposed to with the 3DS footage. But both of these powerful clamshells just seem meme-tier desu, ideal for 3/DS and PSP but with fucked ergonomics for everything else.
Also can’t believe they went with a glass front for the bottom screen. Who was the idiot that came up with that idea?

>>12033918
You just have to use the right ones. Specific versions of MelonDS and Azahar can for DS and 3DS respectively if I recall. Ayn probably just downloaded Drastic or something.

>>12033918
in fairness, they showed a working demo with dual screen DS before, maybe they were trying to show that there is no latency between the two screens

>>12028595
Didn't read your post nor am I the guy you were talking to about whatever shit you were saying, just letting you know that device sucks dick.

Any PSP (preferably 3000) owners that have custom or 3rd party shells know a good place to get new ones?

>>12034547
>just letting you know that device sucks dick
sounds like projection, anon

How reliable is Ayaneo? Are their devices prone to QC issues? Asking because I have an Odin 2 and was considering selling it to get the Pocket DS instead. Odin 2 is honestly fine, but the screen lag DOES bother me in action games and platformers and not all can be fixed since non-retroarch emus don't have key frame skip or whatever.

The only other consideration is the Ayn Thor. I know it's $100 more expensive, but the Pocket DS seems to have better ergos, a larger screen, and a bigger battery.

>>12034679
Also forgot to say I'm quite leery of the Ayn Thor too. They're obviously the same company as Retroid and the Flip 1 AND Flip 2 were plagued with hinge issues.

>>12033802
lol android, good one

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>>12033921
Drastic can send the top screen to an external display while keeping the bottom screen on the device. What old-ass version are you talking about?

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>>12035771
The one in my head :3

i have a feeling we are going to get absolutely CHINKED by the Thor. It WILL ship with multiple catastrophic failures in software and hardware. and the chinks will be laughing as they count their piles of money from the retards who buy it at launch

>>12035889
their piles of money will be a lot bigger if the thor is a good product. it will sell like hot cakes.

>>12035889
I look forward to the new people realizing how much the 3DS fucking sucked to play on.

>>12035889
People are actually hyped for the thor. They're not gonna be dumb enough to ruin their reputation by chinking out on the hinge, right?

>>12036110
that's why they're selling grips.

>>12036145
Ah, but that's not the consensus. The public opinion is that 3DS ergonomics are great and you're a mutant if you complain.

>>12036183
desu, the only clamcel with good ergonomics was the shield portable and its clone from ipega. reguarding the thor, ayn just needs to make sure they don't fuck up the hinge, dpad, and battery life.

the only chinkheld I bought without letting leddit test it first was the v90s, because powkiddy unlocked good hinges on their tech tree. Going to wait with the Thor thank you very much

>>12034679
As someone that's owned two of Ayaneo's android devices (Pocket Air and Pocket EVO) I can say that I personally never experienced any QC problems, but that's not to say that it can't happen. I remember when the EVO launched that there were some complaints regarding the quality of the thermal pads they used, which would lead to some thermal throttling during the WildLife extreme stress test which would lead to roughly 70% stability. Personally my model was fine at around 83% and I know others posted their results to have highs in the 90% range, but your millage may vary.
As for them being reliable I'd say so, though I never tested their slide/clamshell models.

>>12037087
Hmm then I guess it's a bit of a gamble then. If they have a good customer service warranty return like retroid it would be a no brainer. I think I'll hold off for now.

>>12032208
The intention for that photo is probably to show off the difference in brightness.
The thing on the right is so bright it's forcing the camera to compensate, which makes the 3DS look especially dim in comparison.

would it kill one of these fuckers to put the right stick on top (the right way)

>>12029552
>the bottom right and the one above it
I am intrigued...

>>12032761
we don't have the technology

we cannot rebuild him

>>12032761
Take the entire thing apart and replace the screen. I've done it with a monochrome WS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwGqlf4b6YQ
Depending on the screen/board fix you get you probably will need to solder.

Ayaneo is launching an actually affordable handheld...and not for Konkr which is supposed to be their "affordable" brand. They're even bringing back the headphone jack this time around after making a ton of Android devices without them.
Where it might fall apart are the specs though. Has a 4.2" 960p screen and a 4500mAh battery but the Helio G90T is said to be somewhere between the T618 and the T820. Not to mention the devices will only have 2 or 3GB of RAM so this is basically capping out at DC support at most.

>>12037427
With both of these upcoming powerful clamshells, it really is best just to wait. Sure missing out on the early bird pricing for Ayaneo sucks since their handhelds are insanely expensive, but it is very much a gamble to see how long these devices will maintain their hinges for. At the very least nows a good time to barter for people selling their used handhelds in an attempt to jump onboard the clamshell train.

Reminder that Mangmi Air X is a scam. Its SoC is worse than the T610 in RP2S, which released for $90 two years ago:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Unisoc-T610-vs-Qualcomm-Technologies%2C-Inc-SM6115/4604vs4460
https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/unisoc-tiger-t610-vs-qualcomm-snapdragon-662
BOTH the CPU and GPU performance is worse. Totally not worth buying unless the only system you want to play is PSP and you HAVE TO emulate it on a chinkheld instead of using superior options like a Vita or or an actual PSP. I guess it has a bigger 16:9 display going over RP2S at the very least.

>>12037885
sure, let me just grab an RP2S instead
>unavailable
oh. well how about a brand new Vita or PSP
>$250 or more
oh

>>12037885
>>12037946
Mangmeme has an upcoming product called pocket x with SD865, I’m guessing they’ll probably sell it at around $150 range and make it basically a budget rp5, you can wait for that if you want

If anyone uses Beacon Launcer, here are some platform background images for gallery view (per system) https://imgur.com/a/beacon-platform-background-images-gallery-view-A9yfAhR

I preordered the ayaneo early on cuz i felt like it was going to be the best and i still stand by it.

Thor looks small as fuck.

Never played ds or 3ds but can't wait o get into the middle of this stuff :3

Purple bros we won

>>12037645
>>12037885
PUT START AND SELECT UP TOP
FUCK
EVEN POWKIDDY CAN DO THAT

>>12038198
the render looked much better

>>12038198
A black glass panel would have looked less retarded. Again, end glass panels.

>>12038198
looks like dogshit. i will happily buy the cheapeast snapdragon black version

>>12022006
im confused about the thor, didn't nintendo have a patent for dual screen handhelds? how did they circumvent this

>>12038498
patent expired

>>12038198
This is the one case where they absolutely did not need a glass panel for the device. It would have looked so much better without one.

>>12038498
they have been posting daily videos of ds/3ds gameplay to advertise their console, i don't think they are very concerned about IP

>>12037885
>Retroon shill has to lie to make a discontinued produced look better
It was 99 with tax retroon tax. Don't believe russ's lies
>U-Unless you need psp!
The retroon shill uses a t610 for goyslops2 and nigcube. Either a youtuber or he doesn't play goymes
>It is meanwhile okay to overcharge for the old snapdragon 865 becuz leh oled retroon tax
Pathetic

I'M SO HYPED FOR THE THOR LADS

>>12038571
Does anyone even make capacitive touch screens without glass?

>>12038571
This is literally the only reason I'm even considering the pocket DS. God that glass is ugly.

>>12038498
Contrary to popular belief, Nintendo doesn't really care that much about patent and IPs. It's only when you start charging money for your romhack or emulate their current gen that it's an issue.

>>12038763
Nintendo is seriously trying to argue summoning a monster to fight for you as a patent right now.

>>12038767
I mean Palworld is pretty blatant about it's copying. There's tons of other Mario and Zelda indie clones that did fine.

>>12037885
>an actual PSP
Not only is the battery life for the PSP not good by today's standards, the Mangmi Air X when it was in stock was cheaper than the RP2S, and likely cost as much or possibly less because of the shipping costs. Not to mention that it can still play PSP games at a higher than native resolution with features like fast forwarding and save states, and any games with uncapped framerates like Silent Hill Origins run like a dream.

>>12038814
I'll be fair in saying it chokes at higher end psp upscaled compared to the t618's, but it's still a better deal than the retroid 2s not counting the dpad and not counting the x28 movvgs all of them

I THINK RETROACHIEVEMENTS SUCK

>>12039034
No, U!

>Thor will use the same hinge as the flop 2
I don't know anything about retroid's hinges except the flip 1. Is this something to worry about?

>>12039109
Possibly. My Flip 2 hinge never cracked but plenty of others did. I hope I'm as lucky with the Thor since I'm selling my Flip 2 to buy one.

>>12039119
You do not need the dual screen... Enjoy the flip 2 while it lives...

>>12023176
Nta,but how's mame emulation I could always just buy the hamster collection of roms but they are actually missing some bangers like alien versus predator & cadesh

>>12039109
Source? If so I'm not gonna preorder.

And yeah it's an issue since Flip 2s were breaking en masse.

Ayn should just make a chad move and ship the Thor's now

Ayn uploaded a second video and they figured out how to get DS working now lmao

i want a bunch of games for my original DS just piles of shovelware where do people sell this. garage sales?

>>12039317
Why is the DS not upscaled?
Looks like shit...

>>12039369
just get a flashcart

what's the state of dpad-centric 4:3 handhelds? I am looking to modernize, coming from a 353M. zero interest in anything after PS2

>>12037483
15 years of ergonomic improvements and these retards make this JXD abomination.

>>12038198
>>12038279
The bottom screen has a noticeable gap that isn't shown on the preview render.

>>12039407
because those are sprites retard

>>12039317
surely the ds can fill more of the screen

>>12039785
Not without being uneven with the bottom screen.
I'm sure you can do it, but it'd be a nightmare for games that use both screens for the same scene like Yoshi's Island DS.

>>12039791
True. I don't mind it being uneven for most games though since a majority of them just use a map or menuon the bottom screen

>>12022275
God I want this

Any good guide or video for completely setting this up? I followed a video a year ago and halfway through the websites/settings were different than what he showed so I couldn’t really follow through. I’m admittedly retarded so I need to be handheld through it all, no pun intended.

>>12039580
If you aren't interested in anything after PS2, the most powerful 4:3 D-pad centric handheld is currently the RG477M. 960p screen that has a high refresh rate IIRC, and the Dimensity 8300 processor means it can play a lot of upscaled PS2/GC games to where the only limitation will be the emulator itself. Very expensive though. Anbernic has an alternative called the 476H which uses the same screen and is D-pad focused too, but it unfortunately has a glass front panel and the chipset used is the standard T820, making it far weaker in comparison and can probably only handle 1X native res for GC/PS2. Ayaneo currently has the Pocket Air Mini coming out soon which will be cheap with a 4.2" 960p screen, but performance will probably top out at 960p Dreamcast at best due to its chipset and low pricepoint. There's also a small company called XU Retro that's working on another sub $100 device called the XU35 H40 with a 4" 960 x 720p screen and a Helio G85, but I've never heard of that brand so its a gamble.
Those are about what I can think of in terms of devices that would probably be a major upgrade from where you're coming from.

>>12039893
thank you for the comprehensive and useful response

how is the experience emulating switch games on one of these higher end devices? As far as the performance, controls, display, gyro etc. Vs just getting a v1 switch? Which would be a good bit cheaper as well ig, but I've never owned or even handled a switch so I have no clue how good the native experience is

>>12039808
Bait.

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>>12039810
Are you retarded? There's a ton of videos on YouTube for the Retroid Pocket. Go lookup Retrogamecorps + your Retroid Pocket version on YouTube

>>12039950
Its been a while since I tried but due to the Nintendo fuckery all the emulators are gimped mutants stuck at various stages of development. Hopefully that's changed but I expect not

bros I dreamed about having the thor and odin 3 already. it was perfect bliss...

>>12040436
Why would you want both?

Chinkheld newfag here
Should I just get an Odin 3 (Pro) if I want to do it all?
I prefer the size of the Odin 2 Mini but it's so close to the early price of the Odin 3 that I can't justify getting the 2 Mini

>>12040482
yeah if you want PS2/Gamecube or above go for the high end stuff, the cheap ones only go up to Playstation 1 reliably. There's not really a middle ground at the moment

>>12040445
I'm also thinking about getting both. Thor is perfect for DS but maybe Odin will be better for other stuff idk. In any case maybe sometimes you don't feel like holding a DS and can just switch things out a little.

>>12040482
Sure. Word is SD8 Elite is having some issues with OpenGL on RA though, namely N64.

https://github.com/libretro/mupen64plus-libretro-nx/issues/575

MP64Fz works, or so jewey claims, I'm not keeping track of this.

I get the feeling that Ambernic is gonna release a DS clone that can do DS/3DS well for a way lower price than Ayn and Ayaneo is asking for in the next year or two.

The purple Thor is fucking ugly compared to the promotional images. Feel bad for you purple bros, you got CHINK'D

What console is this?
Someone was selling it as a Switch for 2000 pesos (120USD), and I told him it is not a switch.
Now, a week later he is selling it as Gamecube LOL, for 800 pesos (50USD)

>>12041490
looks like someone self-assembled the original 3d printer pattern every first gen chinkheld was based on

>>12041490
Cheap and cheerful M17, definitely can't do above PS1

>>12041527
Oh I see! Thanks!
It has a horrible reputation.
Almost no support and bad battery life.

>>12041542
MinUI works on it but there's no reason to get it unless its ultra cheap. Screen was bad, buttons were horrible, didn't feel bad in the hands though. Definitely a scam at that price

>>12021923 (OP)

Has anyone got much experience with a GBA Everdrive? Been toying with getting hold of an SP and using one to play through the GBA and GBC libraries.

Bros I'm not feeling very good about the Thor's input lag in these new videos...

Yeah I cancelled my preorder and got a Pocket DS instead. I've already suffered enough with the odin 2's input lag and this looks WAY worse.

Anyone get the TrimUI Brick Hammer? They look beautiful, but I'm not sure it'll have much usecase for me since I fixed up my 3DS. I was intending to use it mainly for GBC/GBA games. Might get it on a sale just for its looks later on.

>>12041434
Changing my order to White ASAP

>>12033883
I like this cheap chinkheld I got to play DS games.
Dont need this overexpensive garbage.

I love the retroid pocket classic man.

Its got just enough power to play something like deathsmiles mega black label or shillouete mirage or even sonic heroes.

Can't get more for less than 200 until this year really.

Even still, I'm surprised by some of the compromises ive been made to do, can't run flycast with the accuracy settings despite being powerfully enough to handle mednafene saturn.

had to switch to software rendering for rage racer just so I don't experience any frame drops.

And i can't run melonds with resolution increases and games like mugen frontier exceed will lag to shit with default settings, that and I can't run jaguar although, .jag may just not be a good filetype for retroarchs jaguar core.

Choice paralysis is real so I've added a bunch of games to my "favorites" listing on es-de currently its 3 I'm trying to beat and then hopefully "master" Deathsmiles mega black label outrunners and the first super mario bros.

For deathsmiles right now I go from lv1 until I'm forced into lv2 then after that when I'm forced into lv3 and so on and I've been doing okay with that plan so far since the game doesn't let you stay on lv1 versions for long.

>>12041741
Is that Deathsmiles?

>>12041770
Yes

>>12041792
Damn, what emulator are you using and which set? I have never been able to play it in a handheld, only the PC version.

>>12041798
Retroarch man retroarch's final burn neo core with the default settings just open the game though maybe switch the video driver from opengl to vulkan just to be on the safe side of compatibility that's what I did

no rom set here just an individual non merged rom I got from myrient the name of it being "dsmbl"

>>12041880
Thanks will try it later today

>>12041798
Even though emulation is more accurate than the switch and pc shits its still not as accurate as it could be there are still some parts of the cv1000b and cv1000d that havent emulated yet still get those if I had the choice more characters deathsmiles IIX nicely done arranges etc

>>12041886
>cv1000b and cv1000d
Are these ROM modules or something?

Thing is I cannot run the Switch or PC ports on my retro handhelds. I will try on RG35XX or Miyoo Mini Plus to see if it can be played.

Dusted off my TSP from last year, only to find it still had half a battery worth of charge and it was still quite fun to play. Elevator Action Returns is an incredible game.Glad that despite Trimui not having or releasing the 32bit libraries and Portmaster support vanishing because those clowns can not ask ChatGPT to make a port for the TSP because of the lack of libraries it was not a waste of money. /Blog

>Razor edge 150 on amazon new
Comes with the kishi v2 controller obviously. I want to assume the retroid 5 is only more because of oled tax, but i'm pretty sure its panel is cheap as shit.

>>12041697
the cheapest thor model isnt overpriced for dual screen. it IS overpriced for the chip, but you can use clamcel tax as an excuse

>>12041697
Smart pro?

>>12022226
Damn, the AYN Thor looks actually nice.
How good or bad is the cheapest model with an SD865?

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>>12032432
I just came here for the first time and I'm already gonna have to add to my filters.
Cool.