Thread 12108418

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12104192

Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etc
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/GENERAL GUIDE
https://rentry.org/vrbin

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQ
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

== GAMES/RESOURCES ==
DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU

PortaDOOM:
https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
HALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:
https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:
https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

Assorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

MIDI COLLECTIONS
https://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.zip
https://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQ
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009
https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
https://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/

MODDING RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37
https://realm667.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==
THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/

OUR WADS/MODS
https://rentry.org/vrdepot

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE/WAD DATABASE
https://vrdoom.booru.org/
https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/

MULTIPLAYER SERVERS
US West: https://clovr.xyz/
CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
Duke It Out in /vr/
Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026
Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/thm4q7.zip
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634

HOT POTATO, aka Deep /vr/ied Potato
Game : Doom 2, MBF21 | Deadline : HOTPOTATO99.WAD
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/12030515
Latest build: HOTPOTATO92.WAD
https://files.catbox.moe/vqdnbi.zip

SUB MORTEM : A Dead Simple Halloween Project
Game : Doom 2, MBF21 | Deadline : October 31st
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/12092867
Assets: https://files.catbox.moe/tsacv4.zip

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
/Vertex Relocation/
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : Boom
RC5: https://files.catbox.moe/a4tbzi.zip

=== NEWS ===
[10-17] Map-Center Retro Jam 4 for Quake has been released
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake/addons/map-center-quake-retrojam-4

[10-15] GzDoom development seems to be imploding
https://github.com/ZDoom/gzdoom/issues/3395

[10-14] Duke3D is getting a fan port to Build2
https://x.com/MannyCalavera12/status/1977799227867832601

[10-12] Serious Sam 2 gets 20th anniversary patch.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/204340/view/520852898086650127

[10-1] ALIZARIN (RC1) ~ Avant-Garde Monochromatic Megawad
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/155368

[10-8] Nightdive delisting original System Shock 2.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/238210/view/503964319779651936

[10-8] New EduardoAndFriends wad
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/155461

[10-5] GMDX_AE mod updated to v1.1
https://moddb.com/mods/give-me-deus-ex-augmented-edition

[10-4] DOOM & DOOM 2 re-releases by Nerve will be delisted from mobile platforms due to recent Unity security vulnerability.
https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/advisory/ADV256762

[10-3] RAMP 2025 is available to download
https://ramp2025.doomproject.com/

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)

>>12108418 (OP)
>SUB MORTEM : A Dead Simple Halloween Project
Just for the mood of the season, a simple and straightforward mapping project.

>Assets: Ad Mortem, no additional assets or custom textures (there's already LOTS).
https://files.catbox.moe/tsacv4.zip

>iWAD: Doom 2
>Map Format: MBF21
>Constraint: Playable area MUST fit 2048x2048 box.
>Deadline: Your level should be fully completed by October 31st.

For WIP screenshots, submissions, or questions regarding Sub Mortem, reply here.

Currently 1 level submitted.

>>12108418 (OP)
>>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<<

Record a UV-max run of Orange is True Love - Map 02 "What a Horrible Night to Have a Curse" by Grain of Salt. The complevel is Boom.
Reply to this post with your demo & time.

Download and current records can be found here:
https://dsdarchive.com/wads/oitl?level=Map+02

Example demo in 2:30:
https://litter.catbox.moe/bs3l341enflgs8pd.lmp

Previous challenge WinRar: Ad Mortem - Map 08 in 2:19! >>12107484

This map is pretty simple, you need to kill the monsters to exit. I really like the way it looks. For those unaware, OITL is pretty much the predecessor to the Wormwood series. I'll do Darkwood from Ad Mortem next challenge if nobody else takes it.

>>12107571
>But if you just find harassment and sex crimes a dealbreaker behavior on its own merit, you have to be some KiwiFarms fighter engaging in actual malice.
>harassment and sex crimes
That is typical dealbreaker behavior, you absolute faggot.

>>12108462
Why the fuck are you deliberately misinterpreting his post to continue to drag this shit into the next thread?

>>12108418 (OP)

why is the touhou pedophile still hanging around?

giving librequake a try. so far it's OK. more coherent compared to freedoom. the placeholder ogre looks very silly

>>12108486
Why are you bringing it up when he left?

>>12108490

I mean in general, one would think that you would hang out the hat and delete all your social media profiles

>>12108489
You chose a bad time. They're planning a new release this month, with the new ogre.

>>12108467
>>12108490
they're just making a deliberate attempt to shit up the thread early, if it's even more than one person.

i want to see hot potato and sub mortem progress

these threads have become incredibly gay and boring.

>>12108495
That's not really my problem, if he actually fucks off from here and I never see him again, that's all I want from him.

>>12108497
it's all ogre

Asking again, does anyone know some more good maps or mapsets that fit the Halloween mood? I've kept track of the ones mentioned in the threads so far

>>12108510
It looks really cool too
https://bsky.app/profile/nolcoz.bsky.social/post/3lrg3w2owzs2p

>>12108513
DBP 40: Funnelcake Apparitions.
It's got lots of purple like Ad Mortem. What is it about purple fitting so well with Halloween, anyways?

>>12108418 (OP)
>SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
>old link on a site that can't be viewed from some countries
At this point it must be a troll.

Once again, retardo: https://files.xvertigox.com/vertigo-archival/so-you-want-to-play-some-Retro-FPS/ is the new link that even has v8 as a previous version if you're that autistic about it

>>12108516
looks bretty gud

>>12108489
Librequake has a lot of really nice looking assets in it. I wish it was 100% done.

>>12108489
It certainly looks a lot better than Freedoom.

>>12108513
Cabin

>>12108534
Same artist who did the redesigned stuff for Quake 2.

>>12108535
Interestingly a lot of textures are shared, especially for the techbase wad but they tend to look a lot nicer with Quake's baked lighting.

>>12108504
part of it is some faggot brought his forum drama here that nobody gives a flying fuck about and another part is we still have a spammer who discourages people's contributions. I mean some fag is still making threads with the old link for crying out loud

What would every other retro fps hero bring as a gift to Doomguy's birthday?

>>12108540
Freedoom legit has a lot of VERY good textures and sprites in it, if you've never paged through them you'd be surprised at some of them, but Freedoom also has this problem of being a really drawn out and unfocused patchwork which goes in a lot of needless circles.

LibreQuake has been around for a far shorter time, and it seems like it's just a much more focused project.

>>12108554
>Freedoom also has this problem of being a really drawn out and unfocused patchwork which goes in a lot of needless circles.
It's definitely got that free software project issue of somebody in a position of power decides they want to keep in assets that are bad.

>>12108557
I'm still not in love with that design, but it looks a thousand times better after someone painted over the original pre-render by LWM.

>>12108516
>>12108550
What a cute little guy.

>>12108516
They have a cool Innsmouth/deepfish look to them.

>>12108578
That actually looks pretty good!
8 out of 10 monster design.

>>12108578
are those fins just flat polygons? cause that would be an excellent use of the quake engine and something not done with any of quake's monsters I think

Playing mc_retrojam4 and the start map has me annoyed. Are the climbable brushes a troll, and why this dead space?

Also, there is already a set of older retro-jam projects for quake, i wish they had come up with another name than "mc retro jam".

Retro Jam 4 is pretty good so far. I've just cleared the first floor of the hub and so far the maps have been challenging or at least interesting enough for the most part.

>>12108447
Map looks cool, but it's clearly above my pay grade.

I'm confused why we get a rune right at the start of the new retro jam.

>>12108626
I saw people complaining about that in testing but I guess the guy just didn't feel like fixing it before release.
>>12108632
It forces you to spawn at a different spot when you return to the hub. Quake's start map works the same way after you beat an episode and come back.

>>12108447
>>12108630
Yeah, this is simply beyond me. I had a second go, and I did a LOT better, but there's not enough ammo for me to work with, with the big hurtfloor area and limited cover I'm not skilled enough with infighting to ride out a hectic siege like that.

I got them all down to the last two Mancubodes and one Arachno, but then I was completely out of quarters, and then I'm fucked. If there had been just one more box of shells, I could maybe have pulled it off.
Attempt 1: https://litter.catbox.moe/1nk5mrdisay3evtz.lmp
Attempt 2: https://litter.catbox.moe/hv4inrxy9lfn5rpl.lmp

Very cool setup though, I like the music and aesthetic. Perhaps the level is less hard if you carry over ammo from the first level.

Use case for UZI Doom?

FIVE FUCKING THREADS HOLY SHIT I WAS ONLY OUT FOR A WEEK

>>12108675
I have no idea what UZI Doom is or does sorry.

>>12108642
>It forces you to spawn at a different spot when you return to the hub. Quake's start map works the same way after you beat an episode and come back.
Huh. I didn't know it worked that way, now I wish the Halloween Jams did it because fuck me going back to the grave every map gets old. At least Ironwail gives you a level select.

>>12108543
imp strippers

>>12108675
/ucg/ crosspost? made me laugh, thanks shitpost-anon.

>>12108734
>imp stripper
Sounds like the name of a gun that belongs in duke3d.

Rate my taste in mappers, am I missing anyone??

>>12108578
he cute

>>12108675
>Use case
Why am I suddenly seeing this term everywhere over the past year?
Did I miss some kind of meme?
Is this a Mandalay Bay effect?
Am I getting old?

>>12108709
>I have no idea what UZI Doom is
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/UZDoom

>>12108675
probably good for getting someone started on advanced gameplay mods/tcs without having to go through 10 options screens to fix off graf's funky default settings

>>12108868
not playing that
troon rights matter les than fecal matter

>>12108868
>>12108876
STOP REPOSTING THIS SHIT YOU FAGGOT REPROBATE

>>12108868
One more thread derailed

>Orange Is True Love
>Green soulsphere
>A green soulsphere that replaces the invulnerability sphere, but otherwise functions exactly like the standard variant.
Huh.

>Since vanilla Doom defines item behavior based on the sprite name and not the thing number, this is achieved by switching the sprite number of the invulnerability sphere's states to those of the soulsphere instead, specifically the added green soulsphere animation frames.
Huh. I never knew this.

>The regular soulsphere is also used in the WAD but because of the changes to the color palette will appear orange instead of blue.
I see.

>>12108879
>>12108880
Stop replying to the bait.

>>12108594
>are those fins just flat polygons?
yee

>miss a weapon in AMC Squad on one of the bigger maps
>can't force myself to go back for it
Game is just too damn big sometimes.

>>12108906
Which one?
This is why I play with the wiki open. Most of the maps are a real chore to replay, considering how awful the encounter design is in most of them.

>>12108776
>Richard Wiles
Based. Lots of good mappers in that folder but Wiles is a name you don't see come up too often.

>>12108868
Which map is this?

>>12108904
>the LQ trannies themselves are actually here
Great, as if Megafaggot and Manrissa weren't bad enough. All we need is Alf to come back now.

>>12108776
Prolly Espi, he was one of the finest mappers on Doomworld back in those days.

>>12108916
Every one of the placeholder maps. Just turn around when you spawn in.

>>12108776
>am I missing anyone
joe-ilya of course

>>12108912
It was the Remington Revolver on Rusty's Map back in episode 1. Not the biggest map but it's not small either. It wasn't even in his room afterwards. I've missed other stuff too. But I just don't feel like going back for any of it.

>>12108926
You joke, but every once in a while he makes a solid level. If he was held at gunpoint and forced to make fewer maps but spend more time and thought on them, he'd be better appreciated.

>>12108919
>how dare people talk about mods for old shooters in the thread about old shooters

>>12108929
Oh, yeah that one is complete bullshit, if you don't pick it up during the boss fight, you need to replay the whole damn stage for it. But hey, you can just use the golden revolver if you are playing at expert and above

>>12108786
It's an old software analysis term from UML. Nowadays idiots say "use case" even when "use" is more fitting.
The neckbeard in that pic is a gnome developer, a project renowned for ignoring sane user requests, with responses such as "what is the use case for X" where the use of such a feature is very obvious.
/g/ has been memeing on gnome/ebussy pretty hard the last year or two.

Finished Cultic Chapter 1.
This feels like... Some kind of fictional super-game? Like how you would remember Blood if you had the rose tint chemically bonded to your retinas.

>>12108971
Correction: Chapter 1 and the first level of Interlude. It was that bit of Interlude that really sealed it for me.

>>12108786
>Did I miss some kind of meme?
>Is this a Mandalay Bay effect?
>Am I getting old?
Yes.
It's a /g/ meme that's spilling over recently.

>>12108894
Ribbiks and GrainofSalt stuff doubles as Dehacked tech demos, finding out how they made pseudo randomspawners work with Boom-tier logic made my brain blow up. Then there's JumpWAD, which is a lot of fun if you get the hang of it.

using edge classic with doom forever. which kinda reminds me of brutal doom a little bit and duke it out in doom. honestly alot of fun. anyone know any other edge specific mods worth checking out???

>>12108904
neat
also a lil' flap in the animation would be cool

>>12109013
You're telling the wrong person. I just cloned the repo and took a look.

>>12109021
darn. well maybe they lurk here

Ever grind out a map, get stuck on a fight, become convinced its RNG bullshit.

And then, take a break, do something a little different. Then immediately ace it?

Is there a point where I'll ever learn to just take a break?

Completely unrelated to anything actually Doom (though Hovertank 3D and Catacombs 3D is in here), but I found this big collage once of VGA titlescreens/artwork.

I was annoyed at it being a huge ass .JPG or .PNG, then as I was panning through it one day, I realized that it's because it had some stuff which wasn't VGA but another graphics standard with more colors, and also a crusty as fuck and artifacted .JPG for one of them. Removing those, along with some duplicates, and I could massively shrink down the filesize by making it a .PNG with indexed colors.

I finally found some screens to replace the gaps left from that so that it's complete. Or, at least close to complete, I suspect that there's some sort of subtle color differences with VGA depending on setup (maybe emulation), hence why some seemingly identical colors aren't 100% the same in some of these.
Not sure what to make with that, but it's at least all VGA now, and it's a nicely color indexed collage in a compact filesize.

>>12109035
Those are EGA graphics, anon. VGA was the later standard with 256 colors used in Wolf3D, Doom, and later games.

>>12109046
Why'd you have to point that out? You're making me look like a retard!

>>12109028
so hard to just accept you've hit the tilt once you get into it

>>12108776
Missing:
>Nicolas Monti
>Batandy
>Impie
Not that popular and might not be the best mappers ever, but I like their maps a lot:
>Big Ol' Billy
>Mechadon
>Bri
>Cristopher Lutz
>antares031
>Shadowman
>SuperCupcakeTactics
>Cranium
>anon
Honorable mention:
>Origamyde
>Arsinikk
>Snaxalotl
>Dannarchy
>Eye del Cul

>>12109035
Looks good, gives me a lot of nostalgia even though I never played 3/4s of those.

What's 5th down, right-most column? The art reminds me of Zone 66, but I don't think that's it?

>>12108965
>/g/ has been memeing on gnome/ebussy pretty hard the last year or two.
/g/ has been memeing on gnome at least since Gnome 3 ruined the DE.
Thing >>12108709 referenced is almost 15 years old.

>>12109035
I still really love EGA graphics. Makes me really wish someone can someday make a wad or even a throwback shooter that can nail that look properly in a 3d space.

>>12109070
Yeah, but it really started taking off more recently, hence the spill-over.

>>12109064
Never mind, I'm blind and thought the title (starblade) was part of the 4th-down screen.

>>12108926
Goddamn it I was gonna make that joke

>>12108629
Heads up, Ferric Sulfate (Map 25) can't be completed because the silver key box isn't open enough for the player to fit into. When you get up to it you just have to noclip inside.

>>12109085
I figured they'd need to release a patch sooner or later. I'm up to map 14 so far and everything works normally up until this point at least.

so gzdoom is fucking dead?

>>12109091
long live UZDoom

>>12108430
Screenshot Saturday anon is MIA, but I started working on something.

>>12109091
>dead
https://github.com/ZDoom/gzdoom/commits/master/
Does that look "dead" to you?
Do you think a project is dead as soon as someone forks it?

>>12109102
it's over

>>12109102
>it's just Graf and Rachael left
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I found the great old ones S&M dungeon. Dirty bastards.

>>12109091
>>12109095
Shaytonning urug‘i, mening shonli yurtim nomiga dog‘ tushirganingiz uchun jazo olasiz.

>>12108971
>>12108975
Developer cited Resident Evil as more of a reference point if I recall correctly. I like Blood and tried Cultic Demo a while back, but just couldn't get into it.

>>12109118
lmao

IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN MOTHERFUCKERS, SCREENSHOT SATURDAY!! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!

>>12109190
bit late innit

>>12109190
It's never too late.

>>12109190
i need to stop constantly starting projects, but got somethin im hoping ill be able to get finished
just gonna take a lot of work to accurately get all the weapon mechanics ported in is all, but i plan to do the enemies as well, at least to the best extent i can from shoving them into dooms monster roster

https://files.catbox.moe/5zjj2e.mp4

>>12109190
Working on a TC with horror theme and some advanced features like a day/night cycle, etc.

Tons of work still to do but will maybe get a demo done before the end of year.

>>12108430
Hope you don't mind me spamming you with funny speedmaps, cause I'm gonna pop a few more if I'm in the mood.

https://files.catbox.moe/orck33.wad
Name: Ilya's Mincemeat
Author: Sloppy Blowjob Queen
Midi: Sonic 3D Blast - Volcano Valley Zone Act 1

>>12109071
It'd be cool to make a .wad with that, but many resources would need to be crafted. Also I assume that things would basically need to be 0 or 256 in brightness, nothing inbetween, and that a new colormap would need to be made.

You could maybe do cool effects like the invuln giving you sort of a CGA look, or pseudo CGA look.

>>12109021
>shub-crackurath

>>12109230
Not minding.

>>12109227
Looks neat. Godspeed, anon

>>12109190
I'm going to have to redo the outside area tomorrow, because it looks like crap

When I finish Alkaline and AMC Squad I am gonna be almost done with this massive backlog of fan maps/tcs/partial tcs etc going back over 5 years ago. It's just Blood Death Wish left.

>>12109414
>It's just Blood Death Wish left.
Should be in time for 2.0 release, lucky bastard didn't have to wait 4 years for it

>>12109421
I legit keep holding off cause AMC, Alien Armageddon, and Death Wish keep getting updated.

>>12109414
You oughta check out some Tronyn maps before your journey is complete.

>>12109091
if they don't implement d64 features to Gzdoom (and UZdoom too), yep is still dead.

>>12109464
I had his maps already listed and some already downloaded. I go through big works first sometimes then smaller works after when I am in the mood.

>>12109469
Based

>>12109227
That looks really nifty. How are you going to take advantage of the day night cycle?

>>12109481
Not him but I'd imagine entering a building and triggers changing the lighting around thanks to modern sourceport capabilities.

>>12108418 (OP)
could anyone help me find a doom animation?
it was 2d animated, it took place in a hallway, it revolved around doomguy shooting enemies which looked something like this scene in a video i found, except it was almost every single doom enemy. the designs for the enemies also looked like that of doom 2016's enemies if i remember correctly.
https://youtu.be/f8aU4MYDsOQ?t=61

>secret level
>takes over an hour to beat 'properly'
>its just you holding down the bfg trigger while your retinas get blasted
its extra crunchy but you get the point

>>12109589
for funzies

>>12109589
This looks like a fucking Virtual Boy. What the hell is wrong with you to want to play this?

>>12109589
God bless you and any anon willing to get fucked by the red. I hear you find enlightment if you 100% Alizarin.
Jokes aside, at least a few maps were piss takes and likely meant to be skipped.

>>12109596
I feel that when I play this too.

>>12109603
It's weirdly captivating, I imagine that's why a lot of maps were submitted too.

>>12109589
That's fucking rad. From what wad/pack?

>>12109631
Alizarin.

The current big thing
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/155368-alizarin-rc1-~-avant-garde-monochromatic-megawad-36-maps-mbf21/

>>12109637
Ty

I can say that I appreciate this kind of effort into something unconventional just for the sake of it, but MAN, it's rough on the eyes.

>>12109021
I want to put my penis inside her :333

>>12109021
That looks pretty damn cool.

>>12109190
I have finished my 16 days project where I add a room a day to the map.

>>12109660
That's a really good exercise. Stealing that.

>>12109603
They do a bunch of stuff you normally can't do

>>12108418 (OP)
I demand OP posts be rewordings of map/episode titles or appropriate pairings of of map/episode titles with images.
>"Entryway" because it's the opening post for the thread
>The Shitposter's Manse
from
>The Wizard's Manse
etc. And a double patty Jumbo Jack please.

>>12109676
There's certainly a market for this stuff. See: Hyperdemon, Devil Daggers, etc. Extreme aesthetics are underrated.

>>12109227
Looks rad. Did you rip the D2016M shotgun or recreate it? Textures original? I'm not an artist and I'm poor so I think about using AI to make textures, but I'm sure that's frowned upon.

>>12109653
There's a purple alternative playpal in the thread that a lot of people seem to struggle less with.
>>12109685
Yeah there's definitely a space for stuff like it, to a lesser extent even stuff like paint-it-doom where it's more colors but less textures.

>>12109230
Got distracted for a bit. Testing now.

>>12109708
>>12109685
For an experience on the opposite end of extreme, Half-Quake Amen is a must play. Classic HL1 mod, complete with a bitchin OST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c56w_lcR83U

>>12109742
>For an experience on the opposite end of extreme
It feels important for me to clarify, what I meant is Half-Quake Amen has an extreme aesthetic, but is darker than that Doom wad.

>>12109230
This is a really good fucking level and I like it a lot. Rockets only is a gimmick, but it works well here, and it made me almost shit my pants when the Rockets With Legs came around the corner. The player is strongly limited yet also very powerful, they've gotta mind their splash damage.
Level layout is very simplistic, basically a long winding corridor, but that's not a bad thing for a short 2048 romp, it works as a gauntlet.

It's also a pretty good looking level, a simple but enjoyable aesthetic (almost makes me think of Rondo/Dracula X), good use of light and shadow, as well as colors. Perfect music choice, also.

While I certainly would look forward to yet one more submission from you, we still have 12 days left, so I don't personally think it's necessary to approach it like sheer speedmapping, it's fine to take more time.
I'm not gonna demand it, because these are good anyway, but I wouldn't mind if you gave these levels (the two you submitted + the third you're considering), just a bit of visual pass at some point, things like texture alignment, some additional detailing in general.

Regardless of your future approach, this level is a greatly appreciated submission.

is there a way to play the nightdive expansions for quake without using the cux port? i have the remaster, but i cant stand using cux.

>>12109818
after some faniggling, i got it to load to the difficulty select map. the text is messed up and glitchy for the difficulties, but no other bugs yet. keyword, yet.

>>12109849
>>12109818
fixed it by copying the entire "QuakeEX.kpf" file from the rereleases folder and plopping it in the quakespasm install folder.
sorry to shit up the thread, but figured id follow it up by posting my fix.

What's with the weird illumination line at the bottom of the right pic? Taken from DSDA. Can't say where left one is from, probably DOS.

You could also clearly see that the gun sprite is different, rendering seems to be imperfect.

>>12109818
I first played through them via FTE Quake. The text messages were messed up at the time but I still enjoyed myself. I was getting weird stuttering through the KexQuake ports - and I still kind of do - so that little port was a godsend.

Doom 3 was my first Doom game.

>>12109887
far cry for me (not doom but obviously derivative)

>>12109873
nice. i might check out fte. as for the suttering, same, i get a little stuttering. but my main issue was the mouse and movement. it felt way off.

>>12109895
Was FC really modeled after Doom 3?

>>12109908
every game was, there's a reason they call doom 3 the big daddy of gaming

>>12109887
>my first FPS
Will Rock

>>12109932
Or this one, I can't remember

>>12109932
>>12109935
yeah these in-between ones have the worst aging graphics by a mile

>>12109887
Same

>>12109887
Mine was the PSX version of Final Doom. I got fed up because the game had like 80 levels and it took me 2 weeks to get past just 50.

>>12109989
PSX Final Doom only had 30 levels.

>>12109887
Not my first but it was my favorite for awhile. I'm sure there's a few who first played the original Dooms through that one console port of it.

>>12109887
Same here. I loved it back then. Still do.

Beta version of the Sigil's projectile from Strife. Seems they had these handdrawn lightning effects at first, but then decided to change them out.

Anyone know any GzDoom HUD mods for Strife?

>>12109993
Are you sure? It felt like way more. Maybe a false memory. But I'm pretty sure it took me more than 2 weeks to reach the end.

I was 7 back then, and another game I recall being way longer than it actually is is the PSX version of Rampage. I got up to stage 80 or something before my father told me hitting the billboards changes the next destination. So by punching every billboard, I was playing all stages in a circle, never progressing.

>>12110000
>doesn't know how to sage on /vr/
>posts some blog
>gets digits
gay

>>12110000
Based post.
>>12110008
He wasn't talking about dinner, he was recounting a memory regarding vidya. Those are valuable.

>>12110008
I was saging the sega autist's posts, forgot to remove the sage.

>>12110015
Oh Anon, you should know that a sage isn't gonna do shit there.
Really nothing can be done about that guy until /vr/ gets more volunteers to do janitorial work.

>>12108430
https://files.catbox.moe/hurun5.wad
Name: The Experiment
Author: Sitri
Midi: Sneaky Snake from Duke Nukem 3D
I wanted to make a spooky techbase. The outside area still needs work, but I wanted to make sure the gameplay is okay before going any further.
One point of feedback in particular I'd like to get is regarding the switch that raises the stairs leading toward the exit area. I could see it being unclear to players, but I don't know what I could do to improve that.

>>12109887
mine was chex quest

>>12109190
Rather late. Got the final monster of my project more or less done, currently figuring out the exit area of the map so it's not a nightmare to fight it.
>https://webmshare.com/qOOdr

Here's a kitchen too. I'm admittedly kinda burned out from working on this non-stop for the past 3 or so weeks, but it's almost done and I think I made it pretty fun and challenging without being too ball-busting.

>>12109994
>I'm sure there's a few who first played the original Dooms through that one console port of it.
100%
I know at least one.
I always defend Doom 3. Wasn't my first, but I liked it on release. I like it now. I like it in VR.
Not as infinitely replayable as the OGs, but nothing really is bar HOMM and chess.
Doom 3 good.

Just finished Overengineering Mania. Only two more maps left in Alkaline. Dire Pipes and Early Bird Catches the 17 Centimeter Fromitz Board. Gonna save Early Bird for last since it is massive.

>>12109887
Doom 64.
>early memory of wandering around Staging Area on a dogshit third-party controller in total darkness as a tiny babby
>having an absolute ball
To this day, I still have a soft spot for overblown color lighting.

>>12110108
this is gonna be good as fuck, i can already tell. is there an eta for it?

>>12109801
Thanks for the kind words, didn't expect you to like so much. You missed the part where this is Auger;Zenith's Meat Mincer ripoff, so the gameplay is owed to joe-ilya ;)

I get incredibly bored at the detailing stage, this no joke killed like a third of my maps, but if I decide to make another map, I'll keep visuals in mind.

Ad Mortem is a great resource pack, incredibly stylish and very advanced, any idea if/when it's gonna be available for general use? I'd like to make a consistent adventure megawad with it.

>>12110325
>I get incredibly bored at the detailing stage, this no joke killed like a third of my maps
Literally me. I need to work with someone who does detailing because I know everything the fuck else I want to do with my maps.

>>12109378
Thank you.

>>12109481
There's a temperature mechanic (player needing to warm around fires after being out too long). Also some special night events and stuff like that.

>>12109697
Many 3d assets are from free sources still (for example, you can get basic props and weapon models easily anywhere on the web as free license), but I'm planning to replace a lot of them as I learn more blender. I have already created animations for the shotgun and some melee weapons, plus other misc. things.

AI is fine for certain things, for example, you could take pictures of walls or ground and then use AI to tile them properly for texture usage (quality depends on the model though).

Just using AI often gives "AI-like" results which look bad, so it's better to use a real base.

There's also tons of free textures online anyway. Just depends what works for you.

>>12109697
There's a lot of texture resources put together specifically for Doom, so there's no need to even worry about AI. A lot of good mapsets are using tweaked resource packs

>>12109697
aislop is soulless

>>12109697
You can become an artist. Even poor art made with heart is infinitely more valuable than AI scraped generated nonsense.

>>12110356
not that anon but i have zero time to learn the fundamentals of art splitting my time between work and other responsibilities. don't sell people on bullshit dude.

>>12110364
You can still give an hour or two a night to that kinda shit, you can learn. You shouldn't sell people on the bullshit of just giving up and immediately turning to generational AI trash.
Setting aside the shittiness, there's not a chance in hell that stuff is going to stay free as time moves forward. One should not rely on tools that can be snatched away so easily.

>>12110364
Honestly I fail to see the appeal of anything containing AI shit. Just tells me you want zero personality in your work, so why would I bother checking it out? I like to play Doom because every map is a display of mapper's taste for aesthetics, gameplay and what the like in doom in general. Even the shittiest custom drawn texture will tell me more about you than whatever slop the AI would spew out.

>>12110372
>You can still give an hour or two a night to that kinda shit
i factually cannot. in between replying to you i'm administering medicine to my ailing dog. i'm cooking. folding laundry. writing emails to doctors. i have to worry about how work goes on a day to day basis. i'm not selling anything to anybody. i'm telling you not everyone is as fortunate as others. i didn't say anything about ai. what you should instead tell people, instead of assuming they have time, is
>if it's worth fighting for, you'll fight for it
anything else is snake oil bullshit.

>>12110358
NO
STAY BACK
GORDON!
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

>>12110382
Then we're on the same page here. Dedicating an hour or two a night is fighting for it in the face of everything else. I just phrasing it in a less melodramatic way.

>>12110356
>Even poor art made with heart is infinitely more valuable than AI scraped generated nonsense.
No it isn't. If I want a picture for a purpose, I don't give a shit about whether it contains the depths of the artist's tortured soul. I care about whether or not it looks good. I will take AI art that somebody's put the time into retrying until it looks right over a low-quality drawing no matter how many hours you sank into said drawing.
Now if you're going to generate the whole thing bottom to top, then it's probably going to be shit, but if you're using it to cover a couple parts of the process you suck at then it's fine.

>>12110392
That's still pretty shitty Anon. Any additions is a black mark to me.
But it sounds to me you want free products rather than art/art assets. You can try to justify it all you want, I'm still gonna call it shit and call you a coward AND a cheapass for using it.

Serious Editor is fucking awful why do I need to fuck with layers to put simple geometry in place holy fucking shit can the Trenchbroom guys incorporate Serious Sam into their editor and can they also add real time lighting previewing to TB like Serious Editor has?

>>12110402
ALSO WAS THIS EVER FINISHED

>>12110393
>products rather than art
That's exactly right. I don't care about high art, I care about entertainment. I don't care about the creative process, I care about the result. If you can give me what I want, I don't particularly care how you made it. If you can't, I'm going to go elsewhere.
The cruelest trick the internet ever played on artists was allowing them to delude themselves that people care about anything other than their output.

>>12110407
CEO brain moment.

>>12110407
Hi anon, I need to correct you. Many people care about the process of creating art. That's why Apocalypse Now has a "making of" documentary. That's why thousands of films' DVD releases had making ofs. It's why behind the scenes clips and blooper reels have always been entertaining. That's why artists in any circle have fans, because fans like to know artists and how they make things.

Are there many people who do not care about how something is made? Absolutely. Don't mistake that fact for a falsehood that nobody cares.

>>12110407
actual unironic NPC thought process. .

>>12110364
>>12110382
So you just ranted about something that really doesn't apply to you anyway.

>>12110407
It's really interesting how people who think they're putting out these retarded "raw facts" like "nobody cares about the artistic process" are always saying shit that demonstrates they have not actually interacted with many people in their life.

>>12110407
Honestly why are you on an obscure imageboard talking about an obscure modding scene and not on your PS5 playing Cyberpunk 2077 or whatever? This is extremely normie thought process.

>>12110405
It's even more conveniently done. You just select the shape when you create a new brush, just click and drag cylinders just like you would cubes.

>>12110428
If you're lying I'm gonna get Shib-Niggurath on your ass.

>>12110432
bruh

>>12110407
>mappers and their mapping styles is common source of discussion and argument in threads
>"people don't care about anything other than their output"

do you even read these threads? this is a dubious claim even when applied to anyone but the most braindead of normies, but you'd have to have shit for brains to think it applies around here.

>>12110434
Holy shit. Incredible. Thanks for notifying me.

>>12110421
There are retards out there that are VERY proud of their retardation.

>>12110402
It's not built into TB but there's ericw's lightpreview.exe you can use.

>>12110382
>administering medicine to my ailing dog
administer too much and get rid of the dog, pets take up heaps of time (assuming you look after it and keep your house clean of their dirty/hair).

yeah, you don't have time to be a GOOD artist, but anybody with a pet could priorities a hobby instead, including being a alright artist.
So called "AI" art, without being touched up by somebody with a bit of art skill, is just gross looking, regardless of any political views on "AI".

Looks like DBP77 is another failure in the making. Zero thread activity.

>>12110492
>kill your dog so you have time to draw
I don't like AI either but jesus fuck, dude.

>>12110492
hello turkroach

>>12109887
Wolfenstein 3D, around my uncles house. I was a retard obsessed with Sonic the Hedgehog at the time, but 5 year olds have shit taste by definition.

I'm still using GZdoom

>>12110551
I wonder how many people have moved on to professional projects over the years. The guy behind Underhell worked on Trepang2, Kell and others worked on Wrath (not that that means much of anything considering Wrath), etc.
>>12110565
Basedbasedbasedbased

>>12110565
chicken made troons seethe so he is based in my book

>>12110565
okay anon, you and eruanna have fun

>>12110584
Just let him play, we have some very special boys here.

Any Combat+ chads around? I'm curious, would you say it was designed with shotgun start in mind?

>>12110000
I kneel
>>12110407
You sound like a corporate retard who would hire Nightdive to do another lazy remaster

>>12110000
I've played Zombies Ate My Neighbors on and off since I was a wee lad, and I've never finished it. I get up to like level 25 and it's so daunting how much longer the game has to go. Never boring. 10/10 game.

>>12110585
>special boys
>Tee-hee, nyoo-ho :) Aren't I cute and quirky? ;P

>>12110624
Okay, fine. You're a massively insufferable faggot retard who probably wasn't beaten enough as a child or by your betters going through school.
I just wanted to be polite, but you clearly don't deserve it. Cunt.

>>12110627
>>12110624

>>12110630
I'm not trolling, I'm just venting spleen on an attention whore. So I'm just a fucking idiot giving him attention.

>>12110624
For good measure: Fuck you twice over with a hot iron. I don't know what hoople-headed cocksucking board or website you hail from but do us all a favor and kindly go back there.

>>12110565
I'll use whichever one makes the most sense to me. I don't like the trans types because they try to make everything about them and won't be happy unless they can prove they're oppressed by everyone, but if they make something good I can separate the art from the artist.

>>12110640
>trannies make everything about them
>makes a disagreement in a software project about trannies

>>12110647
I'm not following.

>>12110329
How can we follow your project?

How do I install picrel? I'm a retarded zoomer.

What are you guys playing for Halloween?

>>12110364
You don't really need to become a full fledged artist to do things like adapting textures so they tile seamlessly.

>>12110382
You think other people aren't busy with shit in their life?

>>12110492
Kill yourself.

>>12110407
With a mindset like that, you don't really belong here.

>>12109887
Wolfenstein 2009 was my first Wolfenstein game

>>12109818
>nightdive expansions
Actually they were made by Machine Games

>>12110000
Maybe you were confusing it for the original PSX Doom? It had 59 levels, almost double what Final had.

What can we say about Doomguy?
He was Doomguy.

>>12110195
I originally was going to drop it tomorrow, but I'll postpone it for a couple days more - between polish and bugfixing, I still have to balance for the survival difficulty.
In short:
>less enemies that drop ammo
>less supplies in general
>fewer enemies, with harder types will be found early

I might as well ask anons if not having an automap for a 30-ish minute long non-linear map is a sin. There are a fair few secrets but I tried to make them obvious to avoid frustration. Thoughts?

I'm starting to believe that Doom 1 and 2 are the only great games id ever made

Reading through this thread I finally start to understand why you people were freaking out obert Borrowhelen so much. Strange how you shit on trannies when you all are as equally deranged and hysterical as they are, though.

>>12110784
How can you not like Wolf and Quake?

>>12110060
That was a nice short tyson map. Skellingtons and berserk make a good combo. I personally like to save berserks for later so I wandered around for a bit before deciding to pick it up, but it's not really a big deal. As for the stairs leading to the exit, I didn't really have any problems finding them myself.

>>12110784
I didn't like doom 2 that much. Expanded bestiary and SSG are neat but maps sucked.

>>12110784
Quake 1 is amazing though.
I actually think I like it more if we go by community content.

I feel Quake would benefit heavily from some sort of sniper rifle - something with range that isn't the rocket or nailguns to make dealing with enemies above you faster popping in and out of view faster.

>>12110484
That's pretty neat. Thanks for mentioning it.

>>12110795
I originally had a switch in the dining room, but it felt arbitrary so I for the walk-over trigger by the Berserk.
Were the encounters and resources at a good spot? I didn't want to shower the player with too much, nor did I want the player to have to punch out or pistol hordes.
How about the final area? I feel like another medium enemy or a few smaller ones could help stall out the timed door a bit. So you're not sitting there doing nothing for 15 seconds.

>>12110802
Dwell has a fantasy railgun that shares cells with the thunderbolt, it helps to fill out the roster quite well honestly. I wonder how hard it'd be to make a weapon mod with that.

>>12110784
Don't be dumb.
>>12110802
Don't fix what isn't broken. The rocket launcher and nailguns dispatch enemies above you just fine. There are mods with weapons like a sniper rifle, like railguns, but they have maps and enemies to account for them.

>>12110761
Everyone knows Doomguy is cool as fuck. But who knows what he's thinking? Who knows why he gibs Imps?

>>12110813
yeah they do but I think another ranged option would be better than slowly plinking away at the 20th ogre closet with only a shotgun that spawned above you in a single map

>>12110812
That was on the list to play later.

>>12110816
I like mods that replace the thunderbolt with a railgun, especially considering how devastating the super NG already is.

>>12110827
I can do without the thunderbolt. I know it's a bit stronger than the super nail gun but you get it so rarely you don't really miss it. I only really like it for the FUCK YOU it gives Shamblers, so they can see how they like it.

Overengineering Mania > Early Bird Catches the 17 inch Fromitz Board because OM didn't open a monster closet every time I found a Fromitz Board. It instead restocked the level with enemies when you got the next major unlock - which this map does too but I just am getting sick of it's gimmick and I am nearly halfway through it. I have a ledge that had 3 different ogre closets spawn on it. And multiple with two. And it's almost the same monster closet minus a few changes if I grab a Fromitz board from the same room.

>>12110816
>yeah they do but I think another ranged option would be better than slowly plinking away at the 20th ogre closet with only a shotgun that spawned above you in a single map
I don't actually think you like Quake, or at the very least, you aren't playing any good maps whatsoever.

>>12108418 (OP)
Retrojam4 map2 is kicking my ass even on normal. Also why are vore missiles so fucking smart, how do I shake them off?

>>12110840
I think the Ogre closet above you gimmick with a shotgun only gets a bit old fast and the mapper should just give me more rockets/nailgun ammo at the very least to deal with it quickly.

>>12110752
That's probably it.

>>12110624
why do you have this picture on your disk

>>12110874
Because he's a very special boy.

>>12110841
Weirdly, the first two maps are pretty hard but it gets easier from there. I thought I'd struggle at first but the difficulty mostly drops, and I'm playing on hard.

>>12110810
I think the map had the right amount of monsters. It wasn't so many that it felt like a chore to play punch out with them, but also enough to make you use your pistol. I don't think most people are going to take much less than 30 seconds to kill a king boner with a shotgun, but I'm not a doom pro myself, so all I can say is that both times I played the map the door opened by the time I killed him.

>>12110841
Run like a bitch until you find a very, very abrupt corner and hide behind it. The vore projectiles can navigate around those soft corners quite easily.

>>12110841
Circlestrafe and get idiot monsters between you and it. Free kills are great.

Alkaline reset the hub for some reason after I completed logistics of chaos. Where are my nice blue portals?

>>12110901
Yeah it's fun to get a vore and a shambler infight

>>12110603
That might be one of the ugliest shotgun models I've ever seen.

>>12108827
Nothing outside of resolution, texture filtering and renderer options should be configurable desu.

Maybe a model and dynamic lighting toggle, but that's it, GZDoom's options are bloated out the ass, who cares about automap colors? Just have a default automap setting that's decided by consensus by devs and is shared between all the games, I really don't care. Nobody's playing GZDoom for an authentic experience.

>>12110793
I liked them but not as much as other retro FPS

>>12110909
>who cares about automap colors?
Me, and I miss when you could define them in Woof.

I'm surprised that Quake 2 is regarded as weaker game than the first one now, for years it seemed to me that they were rated as equal

>>12110892
It felt like he went down a little quick, which is why I downgraded the SSG to a regular shotgun. He's not that bad when you just hug the trees, but I trust your judgement.

>>12110925
I think you still can in config

>>12110929
Years of people over-emphasizing how 'Lovecraftian' and deep and mysterious Quake 1 is for reddit points while boiling Quake 2 down to just DOOD TECHBASE will do that. Also doesn't help that Quake 2 doesn't really have an equivalent to Arcane Dimensions yet.
I still prefer Quake 1, but the gulf between them isn't that wide.

>>12110929
The balancing in both games is pretty different. Q1 is much more limited in what you can do, because the shotgun/double shotgun is the weakest weapon in the game, and most enemies have more than one attack, one of which will obliterate you if you're caught unaware. It has way less enemies, so every enemy encounter feels different.
Q2 changed the balancing so now you can run and gun around most encounters, and most weapons are useful against any enemy.

I don't really care about lovecraftian/demonic theme of Q1 instead of sci-fi/militaristic of Q2. That's just preference.

>>12110929
I like them about equallly but I think first Quake had way better expansions, Ground Zero is the least fun I had in a Quake game

>>12109190
I made a couple of maps recently I was really pleased with, then sort of ran out of steam and stopped giving a shit. I'm waiting for the inspiration to come back. I hate forcing myself to try and map though sometimes its the best way for me.

Early Bird got better later on once I got the 2nd pair of jump boots. Feels like they padded out the first 2/3rds of it by repeating fights. And I am done with Alkaline along with my massive backlog of notable mods and mapsets of various boomer shooters that I established years ago and kept expanding year after year. Still got some lesser known stuff from various mappers I liked along the way but I've played practically every major thing that has been mass recommended in these threads to completion.

>>12110929
I suspect the retro shooter boom starting around 2018-19 skewed things in its favor for awhile. I otherwise regard it an improvement in singleplayer/PvE due to its more varied and interesting enemy roster.

>>12109998
Nobody?

>>12110670

I don't usually post about it anywhere since I prefer to work in solitude and I'm too old for social media stuff. But I might post some updates in these doom general threads.

When I get the demo up there'll be more public information out about this.

Thanks for the interest though.

Is Scumhead's stuff actually worth playing or do people only talk about them because they show boobs?

>>12110931
Hmm, I admit I didn't try and fight him inside the final area, and instead whittled down his health while peeking from the hallway outside. I tried it now while hiding behind the trees and it is faster, but not by much. I really don't think it's a big deal unless someone tries to kill him as fast as possible, but if you really feel there should be more enemies there I don't think it'd hurt the map neither.

>>12110987
I'll play around with it.

>The final fight of Pipework Powered Pillars
Was this even playtested? There's a difference between challenging and this utter bullshit. Shit map.

>>12111014
>shitseer mappers
>playtesting
Literally no.

>>12110929
I dunno, maybe I should give Q2 a replay because I just don't see what people like so much about it. The guns felt slower, the enemies weren't very threatening, and the maps didn't look all that visually interesting. It's an alright game but I'm not too crazy about it. I think the game hits its stride when you enter the final fortress with all your guns, the level design was on point there.

>>12111014
Yeah, that mapper is exhibit A along with Mazu for the mapper equivalent of a drunk guy ordering the spiciest curry he can to look tough in front of his friends. The rest of Alkaline is really good, but that map can go fuck itself on higher difficulty levels.

>>12111014
I just cheated that part, personally. The mapper clearly gave no fucks, why should I?

>>12111014
Not impossible, enjoyed myself, but it is the hardest part of the mod.

>>12111014
It would honestly have still been tough and less bullshit if there was one or two less waves and/or ammo on each platform. Having knights, ogres, and scrags shooting at you at the end while you're ammo starved because you have to wait for the platforms with the pickups to come up WHILE dodging all of the enemy attacks with zero space just felt dumb. I just decided to savescum between each wave and called the map there.

>>12111016
I do get the feeling they care more about aesthetics/being talked about more than making a good level sometimes. Occasionally it works, but most of the time it doesn't. I'm genuinely baffled why people keep putting Alkaline up there with Arcane Dimensions when the gap in quality between them is so vast. AD was made by seasoned vets for the most part, while Alkaline was slapped together by the usual suspects from Slipseer.

>>12111030
Fuck it, I just godmoded it.
Don't get me wrong, the concept is sound, but it desperately needs more suppliers and less waves. I think with some polishing up the level could end on a good note rather than a sour one. Too bad such advice is seen as "toxic" by those guys, so the maps will never improve.

>>12110982
Most of Scumhead's games can be completed in less than an hour. I know the Lycanthorne games can be completed in like 30 mins each. They don't really overstay the welcome so you will have some degree of fun but I do think the level and fight design is really basic in a couple of the games I played. I know Scythe 2 is supposed to have much better map/fight design and is much longer. Vomitoreum and Mohrta I have yet to play.

>>12111014
I actually enjoyed that level and the final fight to an extent but I'm pretty good at platforming in FPS games. The one segment of platforming I didn't like was in Logistics of Chaos - the ladders on the descending pillars made that segment annoying enough that I no-clipped past the second section.

>>12108543
>B.J. Blazkowicz
A birthday card "From Grandfather to Grandson" from Hallmark, the cheesiest one he could find that wasn't in the Shoebox section.
>Ranger
Mjolnir from Scourge of Armagon to see if he could lift it. He'll give him an IOU for a year's supply of shotgun shells if he can't.
>Bitterman
A BFG10K
>Corvus
A Firemace rigged to an M203 frame.
>The Hexen Boys
Quartz Flasks.
>Fred Chexter
Provides catering to the party (it's all Chex Mix and Chex cereal).
>Strife Guy
A shield he took from an Enforcer.
>Duke Nukem
A bottle of Jack.
>Lo Wang
A nuke (launcher sold separately).
>Caleb
An Arch-Vile voodoo doll.
>Sam
Two miniguns.

>>12110108
>https://webmshare.com/qOOdr
Does he do that faster burst whenever he flinches? Because that's cool.

>>12111050
>I'm genuinely baffled why people keep putting Alkaline up there with Arcane Dimensions when the gap in quality between them is so vast.
I rarely see anyone here actually discussing the differences in encounter design beyond finding Pipes too difficult. It's often only been "AD is seasoned vets, Alkaline is Slipfaggotry". I'm still of the mind that Alkaline can be more difficult but not "worse" with its gameplay.
There was some hyperbolic grumbling about Alkaline key pickups "always" triggering fights when ironically I feel AD could use more of it on occasion (it also was not true). Having the fights in this room trigger on the gold key grab would be slightly more predictable, but as is its much easier to pull the dreaded "doorway funnel" maneuver and minimize the encounter almost entirely.

>>12111091
>I rarely see anyone here actually discussing the differences in encounter design beyond finding Pipes too difficult. It's often only been "AD is seasoned vets, Alkaline is Slipfaggotry". I'm still of the mind that Alkaline can be more difficult but not "worse" with its gameplay.
I mean, maybe if you've only been here a couple of months.

>>12110982
I like boobs

>>12110180
I want colored lighting to play with in MBF2y

>>12111142
MBF2why?

>>12110784
Cmon anon, you forgot about keen4.

>>12111160
New name for MBF24/MBF25, as I guess it's not gonna be released this year either.

why is this still called a thread, it is 100% a general now.

>>12110929
Quake 2 was always considered good/fine, but just not as stand-out/revolutionary as q1. Q2 was also relatively mundane, I enjoyed playing it at the time but felt no interest in replaying it, like I did with q1. Q1 also had the multiplayer locked down w/ qw, qwtf, and - interrelated - spawned a bigger modding scene from the start. Same reason HL dominated so hard for years.

>>12110939
I never had the impression it was overemphasized, but i've never browsed reddit.

>>12110961
This trend was around long before 2018-2019, I mean just look at quaddicted ffs.

>>12111117
>I mean, maybe if you've only been here a couple of months.
If there was any discussion about encounter design comparisons between that I missed, it would have had to have been in 2020 or 2021 and it's not going to be easy to find through warosu.
Otherwise, what I'm seeing now regarding "AD vs Alkaline" is the same as what I saw in 2023, particularly around the release of Dwell's second episode. We even have Mazu getting namedropped again. In a way it's kind of nice that nothing's really changed as we go into 2026, but there was >>12107138 who at least talked about some of it.

I'm a chud but if UZDoom adds multiplayer I'll gladly use it instead of GZ.

>>12111180
>yet another mapping standard that probably won't do anything different than what's already available
of course

>>12111204
Anon it had multiplayer anyway even when it was GzDoom.

This was a fun map. I couldn't find one single enemy in the end, so he lives to regret this and whatnot. Also, got to love running for a pickup only for a shambler to teleport into you and explode in a show of gibs. It never gets old.

>>12111025
Mazu's maps are some of the few (of active creators) I'll sometimes skip. They often seem to be high kill count arenas which I seem to suck at and/or they aren't my cup of tea.

>>12111214
Same. Guy seems to think big and high enemy count = a good level, but sometimes less is more. I honestly think he should get into Doom mapping since he'd be more at home there.

>>12111210
It "has" multiplayer, and it's complete garbage that desyncs/kicks people out all the time, so to be able to play coop with friends + Zscript mods/maps, my only real hope is UZDoom.

>>12111025
>>12111214
>>12111218
>Mazu
I actually liked his Alkaline map, and I'm the guy who was bitching about Pipe Powered Pillars earlier. Honestly, PPP is the only map so far I've hated, everything else seems reasonable enough.

>>12111085
Yep, some of the enemies retaliate harder when you trigger the pain state to keep the player from getting too comfortable.

All in all, the monster lineup is significantly harder than vanilla but they're all glass cannons. Fits better with the survival horror vibe I want.

>>12111061
Sounds like style over substance. Not worth it, then.

>>12111224
Nice. Only other time I ever saw that was Eviternity's final boss, who summons a few enemies as backup.

>>12111219
>my only real hope is UZDoom.
It's still the same thing, and it won't ever have a true client + server setup.

>>12111234
From what I have seen, it's definitely not the same thing. I'm not talking about the pointless rebranding drama but the changes that were supposed to be added to GZDoom 5.0, the netcode WAS going to be improved.

>>12110956
that very good looking. I love visual tricks that get the most out of ligting and transparent textures. That shit was black magic in 1994

>uzdoom
>no direct download link
>have to "compile" by downloading a bunch of weird files and typing shit
it surely gonna get popular...

>>12111236
It's been improved but it's not perfect by any means, and it's still some dude's copy of Doom acting as the host for like 10+ people, so it's not clear of the shit that causes.

>>12111249
They literally just started this fork a few days ago. It'll be some time before they do a proper release like GZDoom's instead of Git updates.

>>12111236
>>12111251
My understanding is it would be very difficult to retroactively change enough workings in the engine to prevent desyncs without breaking backward compat with older mods.

Maybe gzd modders should go the route the linux world has taken and bundle the kitchen sink with their mods, eg peg to a specific version.

>>12111249
>have to "compile" by downloading a bunch of weird files and typing shit
Github, Linux, and the terminal autists who use them have been an unmitigated disaster for modding.

>>12111268
Letting programming illiterate users on the internet is the true mistake.

>>12111268
Gits are great, actually. I can see what each commit did to the mod and I can just copy shit from the raw over without having to redownload the whole fucker again.

>>12111280
Forgot your image

>>12111286
I'm one of the old hats that preferred using mercurial, but git won out in the end.

>>12108423
A bit late, but:

[10-14] wadptr 3.8 released
https://soulsphere.org/projects/wadptr/
https://github.com/fragglet/wadptr

>>12111291
>introduces data tracking into a binary blob mod, because no source code means you can't easily check for malicious code
Heh, nothing personnel

>>12111264
Seems like it'd be very difficult to have zscript and proper multiplayer that's free of dedyncs without an almost from start rebuild.
>Maybe gzd modders should go the route the linux world has taken and bundle the kitchen sink with their mods, eg peg to a specific version.
Some do/did that, Yholl for Zdoom's final version, Term aimed at least some of his for the version before they broke hud scaling stuff, the Temple of the Lizard Men dev even got harassed by Graf for sticking to an old version and not updating to GzDoom 3.0, a move that was actually safer for the users.

>>12111268
this is great actually. keeps the casuals out

>>12111209
It'll do shitloads of things different, it's not just building some more on MBF21, it's apparently gonna allow for the use of UDMF for maps, among other things.

>>12111318
>It'll do shitloads of things different
Such as?
>it's apparently gonna allow for the use of UDMF for maps
GZDoom, Edge, Eternity, Zandronum, and DSDA-Doom already support UDMF.

>>12111291
Nah i'm a 100% chud and I agree with him. Fags that can't into code and whinge about git are retarded.

>>12111295
>old hat
>hg
Mate, my workplace still has business critical software processing a few billion in revenue a year, stored only in RCS repos.

>>12110670
playing What Lies Beneath
it's a lovecraftian campaign for Blood
a new version should come out soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3uSaBifFls

>>12111343
The company I worked for was using mercurial for the longest time, but changed to git when bitbucket dropped support

>>12111286
GitHub is extremely convenient for development, and that's good, but it's inconvenient for the user end, and many programs and mods are now there exclusively, rather than on other places, like they used to be back in the older days.

Personally, my only real problem with GitHub is that it doesn't have a visible button by the top of the project page, like:
>no compiled build yet (greyed out)
>go to released builds page (green)
No, instead it's tucked away in the sidebar on the right and you gotta scroll down. I get that facilitating development is the core purpose of GitHub above all else, but these days a lot of devs operate under the notion of "We don't need ModDB or another hosting site, it's just on GitHub lol" which makes distribution pointlessly obtuse.
It's not even a huge obstacle either, I can do it and I'm not a programmer, but tucking away the compiled release along the side of all the development stuff is just making it like at a glance that it just isn't being provided at all. To people who don't program (including millions who have been on the web for 30 years), the common impulse is to scan the top tabs and not see anything that mentions downloads or builds.

If you ACTUALLY wanted to keep out computer illiterates, you wouldn't provide compiled builds AT ALL, and you know that.

>>12111280
Bitch, that ship sailed before you were even born, the internet had already stopped being a programmer exclusive space entirely by the 1980s.

>>12108430
https://files.catbox.moe/u72hef.wad
Map Name: Lindwyrm
Author: Anonymous
Midi: "The Tower of Dolls" from Castlevania Chronicles

I wanted to get something finished early enough that others have time to playtest it before Halloween. Let me know what you think.

>>12111370
Don't most projects have a direct link to the releases page on their website or in a pinned post on a forum or wherever? And usually have a link in the readme which is the first thing you see when you open a repo on github

>>12111409
>graf quake
New port announcement?

>>12111409
>UZdoom trannies instead
The word cloud has spoken

>>12111395
It varies by project. Some just use github releases, some pin the latest build on whatever homepage website a project might use, some just expect you to build from source. There really isn't any single one method all the various projects use.

>>12111409
>play Doom
>anon maps probably
>pedophile disingenuous
>drama tranny
>uzdoom trannies instead
The cloud is basically self aware at this point

>>12111409
>find real devs

>>12111409
>GrafQuake
What would GZQuake be like?

>>12111440
Darkplaces

>>12111440
Trilinear filtering
AD would break immediately due to small changes nobody wanted
Off center guns

>>12111440
No bunnyhopping

>>12111409
>stuff another retard
>retarded games irl
>forks bitch
>armor bait
>releases dicks
>spot futas
>futa souls
>features evil god
>thanks culture fucked faggots

>>12111440
Feel free to file that under HUH

>>12111374
https://files.catbox.moe/l245os.zip
This took me a couple of tries. I really dislike the pumpkin guys. Doom monsters look stupid when they move this fast, and they can kill you before you can even really react. The plasma is the worst gun you could give someone to fight them.
The green armor you get after the blue key seems pointless. I wasn't thinking when I picked it up, but all it did was get rid of the red armor given to me at the start.
I would probably change the lights around the water room switch from orange to green. The exit teleporter was green and my first thought when seeing it was that it was a yellow door.
Having each eye of the skull being activated with a different key was really clever.

>>12111452
kek

>>12111409
> GRAD
>drama tranny
aint that the truth

>>12108430
does one have to do something special for Slade to display the custom monsters? I have doom2.wad as the base wad and I clicked SUBASS.wad as an extra wad when opening this anon's map >>12111374
also those rotating cubes are really clever

>>12111323
Two of those ports are relevant, and neither of them have proper demo support.

>>12111409
>nightdive behaviour

>>12110761
Did he not shit? Did he not drerge? He was only human but yes, he was chicken n waffles.

>>12111395
Countless don't.

Here's an example. Now, DevilutionX DOES have a project site, finally, and it's an excellent way to play the original Diablo, but because this is GitHub, the download link is tucked away inconspicuously on the side, you have to scroll down to see it.
If you're on mobile, you have to scroll down to the very bottom to find it, but it's at least not in the sidebar.
It only mildly helps IF the dev puts a link in their presentation, because you still have to scroll down to that.

Again, GitHub is an excellent platform to develop on, but it makes a poor and awkward effort on distribution, and countless devs make no effort beyond just linking to their GitHub page.

>>12111441
Darkplaces is more like the original ZDoom though.
Zircon Engine is probably closer to GZDoom, except unlike with Graf, everyone loves Baker.

>>12111485
at least codeberg made them a little more visible by putting the tab on the top bar along with issue, pull requests, etc.

>>12111472
>No mention of capabilities
>No follow-up to UDMF comment
>Non-sequitur about demo support
Damn, does MBF2y really have that little going on?

>>12111473
>>nightdive behavior
>recompile the lighting in every Quake map with bounce lighting for no reason, destroying most harsher shadows and all the contrast
>nerf Q2 railgun while effectively negating the only thing that made it remotely OP (stealth mechanics)
>nerf a bunch of stuff in Hexen while adding a stupidly OP shield parry to the Cleric (instead of the fighter who actually needs it and where this might actually make sense)
>completely rape Blade Runner game, never bother to fix it, just bundle it with the superior older re-release instead
>re-release a re-release of Blood, say it's because you have the actual sourcecode now, don't even use it
>make a new Doom mapping spec, leave it unfinished and lackluster, force on everyone anyway with an official re-release
>leave all your releases partly broken, only bothering to do one or two updates before moving on
>make netcode objectively and blatantly worse than original games, shove your on-staff hyper-autiste out in front of everyone to piss and shit himself whenever someone points this out
Did I miss anything?

>>12111453
I will take this all into consideration, thanks. The pumpkin guys are kinda op, but I wanted to use them in some context because they were rarely used in the original ad mortem.

>>12111469
I believe the only way you could display the enemies in slade is with a custom editor file, which nobody has made for these resources. The custom enemies are defined through dehacked, and ultimate doom builder is the only map editor that can read from those as far as I know.

>>12110325
>You missed the part where this is Auger;Zenith's Meat Mincer ripoff, so the gameplay is owed to joe-ilya ;)
Alright, point to him then.

>Ad Mortem is a great resource pack, incredibly stylish and very advanced, any idea if/when it's gonna be available for general use? I'd like to make a consistent adventure megawad with it.
Presumably it would probably be after Vaeros finishes it, there's supposedly a bunch of stuff left which is done or mostly done, but not yet finished or implemented.
Like there's a completed set of weapons somewhere, which there's a Decorate version of, but they're not all in there yet.

I didn't like go and find him to ask about this or anything, I just decided that I'd do it because it'd be a fun little jam to do. I have no idea how he feels about it. That's part of why I went for the approach that I did, because the completed Sub Mortem would not actually contain any of Ad Mortem's assets or anything, it's just levels to load on top of it as an extra episode.
Maybe he could integrate it later if he wants to, but I'm not gonna twist his arm.

>>12110060
>>12111374
Sweet! I'll look at this shortly.

>>12111534
The Heretic map "enhancements" break a bunch of secrets and shit if done in the "wrong" order, and also just generally fuck the flow of a bunch of maps while doing nothing but adding eye candy.

>>12111537
>The pumpkin guys are kinda op, but I wanted to use them in some context because they were rarely used in the original ad mortem.
Totally understandable, I just think the beginning of the map gives the illusion of choice because fighting them without rockets is suicide. But what I can say is that at least it's early on in the map so you don't lose much by dying there. The shifting floor seems more daunting so I can see other blind players doing what I do and just going to the right to begin with.

>>12111525
UDMF would allow for things like:
>flats and wall textures used interchangeably
>flipping and rotating flats and textures
>better fake 3D floors
>color tinting sectors like in Doom 64
>color tinting walls and floors, and otherwise lighting them separately from a sector
>ACS scripting
>generally being able to do all kinds of things which otherwise would require dummy sectors or hacks

MBF2y is apparently also gonna have some kind of actual Decorate support. Again also, while being able to properly record and play back demos without the .exe shitting itself (like ZDoom based ports do).

>>12111537
>The pumpkin guys are kinda op, but I wanted to use them in some context because they were rarely used in the original ad mortem.
Yeah, but that's because they're dicks to fight, they're a copy of the Mr. X enemy from Scythe 2, which is fine, if used a bit carefully.

>>12111551
>some kind of actual Decorate support
Something along the lines of very early ZDoom support for it, so not remotely near what a lot of people are expecting.

>>12111551
>>12111209
>probably won't do anything different than what's already available
UDMF has been around since 2008, it's not unique to MBF2y.
I'll at least concede the Decorate and maintaining demo compatibility.
Is there a source for all this?

>>12111559
Which is still much better than trying to add more shit onto DeHacked, something is more bothersome on the engine side and which is not as flexible for future additions and changes.

>>12110958
Just found my first pair of boots. Are they infinite?

>Get tired of Retro Jam 4
>Notice anon talking about Alkaline earlier and start playing it again for the first time since release
It's as nice as I remember. I'll be fucked if I can remember where any of the secrets are on this level, but I left it with zero survivors anyway. I forgot how the Shamblers don't have lighting attacks anymore too.
Fun AI fuck up moment - A large fight in this room ended an one double chainsaw Ogre still stood with his back to me, staring at a fallen comrade. Perhaps he was contemplating the horror of war and what guarding this rusty old facility had cost him, or maybe he was accidentally coded to be deaf and I didn't enter his line of sight during the shootout. We may never know.

>>12111567
>it's not unique to MBF2y
Where did anyone state it to be?

For source, I'll go looking for it but someone else may have it, but Kraf has been working on adding UDMF support onto DSDA for that purpose.
The low level Decorate I think was nicknamed Declarate, and I remember seeing some kind of project site, but I can't find it for the life of me, nor much of any trace of it, so I wonder if it was named something else.

>>12109190
https://litter.catbox.moe/jyuzzq.mkv

I feel like I'm going insane, I can't find this stuff, but I know that I've seen it discussed and even linked here.

>>12109190
i dont like metroidvania, i tried to like them really but im glad theres doom wads for everything

Oh, right, because almost all of that stuff was secluded on some Discord channels somewhere, that's why I can't find anything.

Ok, here we go, an actual trace of its existance:
https://bitbucket.org/Blzut3/declarate/src/master/

Supposedly what MBF2y intends to do is to use this as a basis.

I played through DBP40 Funnelcake Apparitions and really liked the aesthetic. What would be the easiest way to rip the stuff from it for making a map of my own?

>>12110958
I do wonder if they'll ever add to Alkaline. Greenwood once mentioned that more maps/features would be on the way during the 1.2 release, but maybe he decided it was good enough as is.
Personally, I'd like to see some existing maps touched up a little (improve some of the secret maps and make the Pipe Pillars final fight less unfair), and maybe a super secret ending map once you beat all maps. I jumped into the hologram when I won hoping and expecting for some final boss or credits, and was disappointed to see it's just a 100% completion trophy thing.

>>12108543
>Duke would call over two strip tease girls to Doomguy's place and make a cake with a writing "Always Bet On Doom!"

>Sam would give him an ancient but cool looking papyrus deep from a pyramid

>Quake guy gives him a Stihl chainsaw but it has two blades and a bunny plushie

>Caleb makes him a voodoo doll that looks like an Imp

>Freeman gives him a book about anger management

>Blaskowicz gives him a trusty combat knife in case he runs out of options in a fight

>>12111634
>>12111637
>>12111641
>Unable to find actual source
>"I-i-it's on a Discord server!"
>Links a bitbucket page that hasn't been updated in years with no mention of MBF2y
>"S-s-see? This is what MBF2y will be based on! T-t-trust me, bro!"

>>12111653
Poor source, I know, but the link was more for my own sanity to prove I didn't plain dream or imagine it all.

You can also blame them for their lack of advertising and development transparency. It seems to me that the DSDA Discord is where all 'public' MBF2y discussion has been debated. Probably there's a more closed channel where the actual devs congregate and co-operate, and who knows what happens there (if anything, the project could be dead in the water for all I know).

So I guess to summarize it:
>there's been scant discussion about a followup to MBF21 here and there
>there's a discussion channel for it at least on DSDA's Discord server (which is publicly available)
>a language based on earlier Decorate is intended to be part of it
>Declarate is supposedly a proof of concept for that
>UDMF is intended to be the map format for MBF2y
>DSDA has partial support for DSDA, presumably for these purposes
So there's evidence of it being talked about, and there's clues for intended feature sets, but I guess I'm being optimistic, I really could be talking up a bunch of nothing.

*DSDA has partial support for UDMF is what I meant to write. Things would be very dire if DSDA only had partial support for itself.

>>12111692
>Things would be very dire if DSDA only had partial support for itself.
I mean DSDA does support ports that aren't DSDA, though the list is a lot smaller now.

>>12111647
Open it in Slade, select everything that isn't related to map data and just paste it in a new wad.

>>12111637
Things being hidden away on Discord channels is the worst thing about modding in the 2020s.

Blood. Sometimes it sets my teeth on edge. Other times it helps me control the chaos. My god Tchernogod was a killer here in America. Taught how to think like one, taught me how to shoot akimbo with two hand weapons. I'm a very neat monster.

>>12111797
Why does he look like Dexter Morgan?

>>12111684
I think UDMF thing is separate. DSDA also got the old Doom-in-Hexen map format support as well. IIRC both were added back when Kraflab wanted to support older ZDoom stuff.
And actually, Woof now also supports UDMF.
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/pull/2407

>>12111818
>Caleb everytime he sees the reaper in Death Wish

>>12111225
It very much is style over substance. I enjoyed some of them anyway in spite of this - if only as an idea of what not to do for my own maps/tcs.

>>12111648
I was expecting some sort of ending map too and tried jumping into it as well.

>>12111818
Officer you're connecting dots that don't exist here, move along pls

>>12111825
>>12111860

>>12111825
>tickets please

>>12109589
epilepsy warning

>>12111881
>Walks past

>>12111795
It's going to be serious damaging to a lot of modding communities once Discord goes under, fuckwits are exclusively using it for hosting, communication, everything.

>>12111885
>HEY! HE DIDN'T PAY!

>>12111889
You know what I hate more? Mods that are only on steam workshop. Few years ago all workshop downloaders died out and now I can't download a lot of stuff because I don't use steam

>>12111473
>>12111534
>(instead of the fighter who actually needs it and where this might actually make sense)
And who actually holds the shield on H+H key art.
>>completely rape Blade Runner game, never bother to fix it, just bundle it with the superior older re-release instead
They also quietly delisted original Shadow Man after putting out the remaster.

I do wish they gave out the Cluster Mines more in Alkaline - either that or make it in a less hidden secret. I don't like watching youtube videos to see where all the secrets are. Prefer it in written format most of the time. Feels quicker. And since no Doomwiki outside of Doom I tend to not bother finding all the secrets. I've gotten better about not finding all the secrets on a lot of Doom maps too tho. Can't be arsed to go look for something after I have already completed the stage sometimes. Unless I want to see if I can get a mega armor or a weapon/backpack early.

>>12111160
because i GOTTA

>>12111894
>Mods that are only on steam workshop.
Man don't get me started on that shit, I despise that Terraria modding had it's own idgames equivilent with built in mod browser shit and they got tempted to shove it onto Steam Workshop through the most minimal developer exposure possible, even the fucking GoG version needs Steam shit for it now.

>>12108447
2:46 https://files.catbox.moe/prgayz.lmp
A week passed now I can play doom again!

>>12111374
Holy fuckballs what a level. I've gotta gather my thoughts for a bit.

>>12109230
pretty good. forcing the player to use only rockets is kind of annoying with such a small map. I died a lot to my own splash damage

>>12111409
>vkdoom sounds gone
gone tomorrow

>>12111409
nobody else made gzdoom far ago

>>12111534
>>12111895
>Some non-Nightdive developer talks about Doom (they switch to Quake 2 later) shit
>Edward spergs out as usual. Gets aggressive
>Some fucked named GooberMan comes and is somehow more of obnoxious asshole than Edward
>Moderators and normies act like this is normal
This is the reason I avoid forums like Doomworld these days. Seeing such scumbag behavior from people who supposed to act professional legit made me pretty fucking mad.

>>12108561
The guy who spearheaded FreeDOOM molested me in a Macy's in NYC in 1987
He kept yelling Cut and Dissassemble!

idk what this website is, prolly something for wadseeker but i have stumbled upon hatsune miku skin

>>12112040
also hauntedmansion.wad looks interesting
has anybody else tried this?

>>12111374
Kicked my ass, this level did. Don't think I could do this one saveless without tons of practice.

>feel like an idiot because I didn't pay attention to the floor pattern on the west side so I get raped a lot at first
>actually not very hard when you DO pay attention to it (obviously)
>Pumpkin Man ambush on the east side made me yell out in anger at first, but I actually manage him pretty fine, don't actually die to him
>fuck around trying to get the secret ham, and I do
>realize I needlessly wasted it in a level that's tight on health
>fuck it, push on, back to the west side again
>Boner Party, try with rockets first, die, then try with plasma
>realize I'm wasting a lot of precious cells on misses
>switch weapons in a panic
>accidentally whip out the mace
>fuck it, I'm spiced, let's bludgeon!
>actually clobber a handful of Pinkies and Boners as I circlestrafe like a madcunt
>get rockets out to finish them off
>continue circlestrafing a few seconds after everything's dead
>feel like Lionel after the lawnmower scene in Brain Dead
>climb upwards, I deal with the oncoming Satyrs well until I get blindsided by plasma from the Arachnotrons
>thank Christ I saved right before
>final stretch I'm expecting like 20 Pumpkin Men, instead it's only a lone Cyberdemon, phew, but he still kills me
>being sent up and down by the waves is kind of disorienting, but accidentally start wallrunning and then roll with that
>this gives me enough breathing room after he already hurt me and I circle him to death
>still not over, here comes another Boner Party, thank god they're naked
>make it to the exit

Wild ride, that's the first time I've ever used wallrunning in combat. This is like Sub Mortem's own Black Crest, gorgeous to look at and tough as nails, with creative encounters and design. I would say that the difficulty is entirely acceptable assuming we put this around the end somewhere. Maybe reward the player with some medkits and a new Mega Armor at the exit or something.

>>12112046
Yeah,if I remember correctly,it's not really a game.It's more of a short tour through a spooky amusement park.It'sonly a couple of minutes long.

>>12112040
You often find those sorts of sites where it's the dumping ground for a small community so they don't have to screw around with upload site links and everybody stays is on the same versions.

They're pretty good for finding stuff that's otherwise fallen off the net.

>>12112040
>hardcore doomwars

>>12112085
does it cost a lot to maintain a website like that?

Sunday Night Shitshow time ! Looks like its repeat of ALT this time with just vanilla doom .

search for "macgu.fun" in doomseeker .

>>12112090
These days no, costs peanuts to have a TB or so of bandwidth when it's probably like 30 or so people getting mods off it, odds are it's on the corner of somebody's proper stuff too so not like it's an extra expense.

>>12112089
>Enemies turn into other enemies
>Enemy spawners over HEALING ITEMS
>A Pain Elemental-type that shits out chaingunners replaces medikits.
>Arch-Vile on MAP02
Wew lad

>>12112089
i love shit like this

>>12112040
Pls be giving the link, those little caches of mods are always fun to explore.

also HOKUTO NO DOOM???

>>12112089
>>12112098
>>12112101
I just found its fucking ZDF page. Good fucking God its OP is long as shit. Look at this motherfucking thing, man.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=36535

>>12112106
https://static.allfearthesentinel.com/wads/
and i found this one too
https://euroboros.net/zandronum/wads/

>>12112110
>that random death star
it's not the east or the west side
it's THE DARK SIDE

>>12112110
Holy fuck, it just goes on and on...

>>12112112
Man, it has Ad Mortem in there and all.

>>12112110
>Wow, the new version of MUGEN is kind of weird.

>>12112112
That's TSPG and it's Euro equivalent, it's mostly what people use for uploading Zandronum mods to host servers with without actually running dedicated servers themselves.

There was an Australian one too but I think that went down recently.

>>12112110
>korean
This was before gacha

>>12112138
>Average match between Rare Akuma and any character made by Brergrsart.

>>12112139
Is it the successor to dogsoft?

Damn that was scary!

>>12112145
More like another option, it's been around since fucking forever.

>>12112112
I'm mystified about this one. What's inverted about it? It doesn't look mirrored or flipped turned upside down, and the filesize is identical.

>>12112157
Download it and find out.
https://allfearthesentinel.com/zandronum/wads.php?order=date_desc&name=av-inverted

>>12111586
> Shamblers don't have lighting attacks anymore
Some still do

>>12112147
It's a reference to The Altar of Storms, another very good Quake map.

>>12112162
I did, I looked at maps in the editor and nothing seems different.

>>12108418 (OP)
How do I access ALK_SICKNESS map?

>>12112179
In what?

>>12112179
Isn't that the one you find on the roof if you use the brig jump boots?

>>12112183
Oh thanks, didn't know I can get on the roof!
>>12112181
In mapset we've been yapping about for 3 threads already

>>12112194
Yeah, the view up there is weird. I almost want there to be more of a plot because the ruins/giant skeletons out there make me wonder where the fuck we actually are.

>>12112157
Did you run them together?

>>12112157
>>12112162
All levels are flipped

>>12112223
No, why would that do anything? Best I can tell it's a copy of AV.wad which is renamed, the bytes are exactly the same.

>>12112212
That’d ruin the mystery. I also swore I saw the skybox in use somewhere else.

>>12112230
They're not the same, I just told you levels are flipped. Same size does not mean same content

>>12112238
NTA That’s actually pretty crazy. Thanks I’ll have to play this, it’s like sonic origins where it inverts the levels

>>12111484
Hey, imp, can you make me a sandwich?

>>12112250
btw crispy doom has -fliplevels argument and nugget has flip_levels config switch

>>12112261
https://voca.ro/19kdjIM6MpdO

>>12112238
Fuck, I'm stupid, I looked at Misri Halek and everything seemed to be like I remembered.

>>12112278
I know of that feature.

>>12112286
kek

Oh hey, that creepypasta or whatever that was going around last year. I actually could not find this .wad anywhere else at all, so this either fell of the web quickly or has not been published anywhere but this repository.
Nothing very novel as a story, but at least the design of the monster was interesting and spooky.

>>12112315
>so this either fell of the web quickly or has not been published anywhere but this repository.
It's the archive of everything somebody's ran a server with through sentinel's playground, which was going to be purged a year or so ago but they got so shat on they changed their minds.

There's even back versions of vrskins on there.

>>12108423
[10-19] Necromantic Thirst is updated to the final version.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/149103-necromantic-thirst-final-release/

People really like the not Red Cross pickups?

>>12112139
What about this one
https://camoy.sdf.org/wads/

>>12112373
I first saw green crosses in Hideous Destructor before I noticed them getting censored anywhere else.

Doom mods with this feel

>>12112417
Rootpain.wad

>>12112417
What’s that one mod someone recommended, Lilith something roses or something it has ten or eleven maps

>>12112427
Lilywhite Lilith?

>>12112431
yes thx

>>12112383
Looks like there's some potentially interesting stuff amidst a lot of weird Zandronum mods.

Also penis wads.

>>12112447
He’s friends with Sonic Penis Hog. Who is also friends with Ronald McDonald better known as the Penis Clown

>>12112465
I hear they both report to Chase Holden.

>>12112447
>PINGASKIN

What was this one skulltag wad that was popular back in the day along with ghouls vs humans where you pick certain classes and one of them harvests crystals and you had do other stuff it’s been a long time but I vividly remember it I think there were different classes you could pick such as the aforementioned one with the crystals

Is there a way to show level stats in Nugget? Like on the automap?

>>12112583
Options > Status Bar/HUD > Widgets > Show Level Stats

>>12112614
I swear to god it wasn't there when I last looked, I'm NOT retarded

>>12112637
It happens, man lmao. I spent like an hour trying to configure Zandronum earlier so I know how it feels.

>>12112645
>I spent like an hour trying to configure Zandronum earlier
I find it easier to just edit the .ini with the ZDoom-based stuff, there's a lot of shit that's not in the settings menu that's useful like screenshot_dir for having all of the ports use one fucking screenshot folder.

Man I Love Doom

>>12112656
Doom I love Man

>>12112656
>>12112664
Man I love ManDoom

>>12112670
I Love Doom Man

>>12112147
Which level is that?

>>12112664
If you play Doom, you like men!

Looks like Sega Sharter is beginning again, don't let the thread sink while I sleep.

>>12112112
No love for FAP? They've got all the old wads that were nuked off of TSPG awhile ago
https://static.action.fapnow.xyz/wads/

>>12112863
Summer of 92?

>>12112863
Summer of ‘92?

>>12112858
>don't let the thread sink
>almost at bump limit
can't tell if retarded newfaggot or auster furthering his narrative

>>12112878
I'm tired, gimme a break. Honestly someone should just cook a new thread now, mods aren't gonna notice him for hours.

>>12112886
megamansegasystemlard, please go to bed. it's very late in bongland.

get in the lifeboats now, the thread is already listing
>>12112968
>>12112968
>>12112968

>>12110958
What'd you think of Something Wicked? Mapjam6? Etc.

>>12110781
thats a good reason for postponing. i would be thrilled to play it when you post it.
>not automap for a 30~ min long map
eh...i dont hate it, i dont like it. very ambvient. i dont mind

>>12112093
GGs and Take it ez

>>12110743
if you want to be pedantic, only dimension of the machine was. dimensions of the past was developed solely by J.F. Gustafsson, an employee at machine games. he didnt even do it for machine games, he just wanted to make more maps for quakes anniversary as he was very involved in the map scene in the mid 90s. machine games just published it in collaboration with nightdive. so you are both WRONG.

>>12111795
Discord and these other locked-down proprietary comms/distribution platforms a damaging shitholes, but modders who choose to (exclusively) use them deserve to have their stuff lost to time, like natural selection.
Too much to ask that most people learn from history.

>>12111975
I have no love for nightdive, but quakeulf and gooberman are the only 2 sperging out, and gooberman evidently understands the topic better than quakeulf. Edward doesn't sound unprofessional, in fact it looks to me like he was genuinely trying to help quakeulf understand he needs to look at the source.

If you're a dev it's pretty common for other people (devs or not) to trivialize a complex problem because they don't have the context/constraints.

>>12113427
>in fact it looks to me like he was genuinely trying to help
bullshit