Thread 3866028

Has anyone here played TOW2 and enjoyed it?
How much better is it than the first one?

>>3866028 (OP)
There's only one man in a cast of five???

>>3866028 (OP)
Game releases for most players tomorrow. Ask again then or read reviews.

Making a convict granny

>>3866028 (OP)
Playing it now. It feels identical to the first. Sometimes dialogue makes no sense. My example is "What are you doing here?" My response is "Just, uh...what are you doing down here near the sewers?" Guard response, "Protectorate is making my head spin and needed a break. Don't let the matriarch know." I respond with, "Why not leave?" They respond "There are a bunch of saber things (can't remember monster name)". "Don't worry, I cleared them out." Then he leaves.

No shit, that was the dialogue. Guy watched me come in through the tunnel and then stopped caring after I said "Just, uh...what are you doing down here?"

It's just like the first.

>>3866028 (OP)
I kept playing nu-bsidian games despite knowing this company has gone down the shitter talent wise, but tow2 is where I'm gonna cut my losses I think

>>3866403
>Guy watched me come in through the tunnel and then stopped caring after I said "Just, uh...what are you doing down here?"
because he's a dumb mook who got caught bumming off work. this text flavour is perfectly okay and even better if it gives you options and you can catch him out with one.
it's more disturbing that you were willing to buy the game and think this instance is bad

>>3866028 (OP)
Its painfully mid.

>>3866028 (OP)
Are they using the same engine and content pipelines as the first game or have they "upgraded" to UE5?

>>3866521
its UE5

>>3866515
I miss when games could just be alright. Modesty is dead

So far the game is better than expected. Way more roleplaying options and solutions, better combat, better traversal, better level and world design, better quest design, more tools, exploration is improved.
I also like how they made weapons more distinct, like revolvers can rapid fire from the hip which pistols can't.

>>3866403
>It feels identical to the first.
Absolutely not. The amount of improvements to everything and things they added is immense.

>>3866503
>it's more disturbing that you were willing to buy the game and think this instance is bad
You think he didn't just watch it on youtube?

Are there any good RPGs that double as space adventures?

>>3866028 (OP)
Outer Wilds or Starfield?

No third choice sorry. I've already hit myself on the head with a hammer, and it didn't help.

>>3866664
I'm not watching your video dawg. Especially if you only speak in buzzwords

The knee popping noise is funny and makes stealth gameplay interesting after years of ES-alikes. And that’s why that trait is good.

>>3866664
>that thumbnail

way to invalidate any criticisms you have of the game

>>3866781
1. Im not heem
2. It's from a clipper channel so he didn't even make the thumbnail

>the outer worlds 2 has less players on launch than avowed or the outer worlds 1 (which launched a year late on steam)(going off steam numbers)
L M A O

Done with Paradise and it's very middling, i doubt i'll continue playing.

this is so doa its incredible
they managed to pull second concord

>>3866499
i heard writing wasnt good in the first Outer Worlds. Is the second one this bad?

just finished it as a dumb character:
had fun 7/10
game is much better than the first
quests aren't that interesting
being able to influence companions in their quests is nice
i bought extremely few items and had tons of money and items left over
i liked granny the most
besides uniques traders don't have interesting stuff
most uniques are pointless
i haven't found an idiot ending like in the first
basic tribarrel shotgun is insanely strong and can be turned into a sniper
the rattler shotgun revolver is op
interesting lore drop at the end of the game doesn't get resolved at all, which pissed me off

>>3866403
>It's just like the first.

Agreed. I'm now a couple of hours into the game and the first world feels like an asset flip of the first game. Most of the missions make me feel like I've played this game before. The only thing that has markedly improved is the gunplay.

I think Inez is hot

Playing through it right now, enjoying it much more than the first one some of the dialogue is DREADFUL. I regret taking the auntie choice gal, I want to vent her out of the airlock.
I like Niles, I like the knife chick, surprisingly.

PTATH

>>3866028 (OP)
I might get it on black friday.

>no thread on v or vg
>thread on vrpg is a ghosttown
yeah it's fucking dead.

>>3866664
I'm watching the video to see if they will ever learn their lesson about wokeshit games.

Do you think this or Tainted Grail is more worth checking out? I feel like playing a newer RPG but it feels like my options are aggressively mid vs eurojank

>>3867387
It was flawed but fun worth a torrent at least.

>>3867387
Tainted has a demo. I tried it and I liked it - nothing special, but ultimately decided I had a backlog to clean up already.

>>3867304
It's getting some discussion on /crpg/, Anons actually like the murder hobo surprisingly enough

I let the relay crash in the first town killing everyone and following reactivity ensued:
everyone in westport had broken dialogues. I didnt sabotage them so they remained in the settlement but now theyre all generic npcs. fast traveled to landing pad and inez threw a shitfit, calling me a psychopath and left the party. I shot her in the head but she was unkillable. talking to her again she smiled and said I'm a good commander and thanked me for helping her out with her side quest.

So how is it? Is the game as boring as the first one?

So, is Obsidian just doomed to mediocrity? I enjoyed Pillars Of Eternity for what it was. Kotor 2 had better roleplaying than 1, but everybody just talks about the story in that game. While I respect New Vegas, I never really cared for the gameplay. Similar to the Elder Scrolls games, it was this unsatisfying middle ground for me where it wasn't arcadey or >realsitic enough. Maybe if you had skills/abilities you could use in combat, and do dumb fun stuff like wall-running/wall-jumping I would have enjoyed it more.
In a way, they're like Piranha Bytes. They seem to tackle styles of games that are too big for what they want, and they keep trying to make the same type of game.

>>3867615
It's just Outer Worlds 1, but called 2. Weapon usage feels better, that's just QoL though.

>>3866028 (OP)
>The Woke Worlds sequel
Even Tim Cain refuses to sweep the floor for this FELTED game series.

>>3867624
>Kotor 2 had better roleplaying than 1, but everybody just talks about the story in that game
Wrong, vermin bugman. I literally cannot bring myself to replay KotOR - I only played it twice as a child before KotOR 2 came out - because KotOR's gameplay is unbearably shit compared to the sequel. The story improved in the sequel as much as the gameplay did.

>>3866028 (OP)
Does this game have notable mods yet?

>>3867690
The fuck are you talking about? The gameplay was nearly identical.

I keep getting distracted by Dr. Venture's voice coming out of random NPCs. If you're going to get one of the dude's behind Venture Bros as a voice actor you should at least have him play a single character, his voice is too unique to use for a bunch of nobodies

>>3867624
It seems so. I thought they were intent on making mid level games but here they go charging $70 for it which implies ambition.

>>3868123
I knew a recognized that voice from somewhere. He is the only good voice in the game.

>>3866857
>watching streamers
>watching videos from clippers
>watching clippers who make videos with thumbnails like that
Why do you live your life without standards?

>>3867002
>I regret taking the auntie choice gal, I want to vent her out of the airlock.
Part of some of the faction characters arcs and how you can influence them is that they can go from brainwashed supporters of said factions to abandoning them.
For Inez one is her abandonding Auntie to go freelance because she becomes disillusioned with them in her personal quests.
It's a similar deal with Aza and Tristan.

>>3867624
It's the best game of its kind since New Vegas. Fallout 4, Starfield, Fallout 76 or the numerous cheap, janky games like Tainted Grail are so far below Outer Worlds 2 it's not even funny. If you want to judge that as most of these games aren't very good that's fine, but OW2 is definately better than them.

>>3866028 (OP)
It's a big improvement on the first; I like it. Two criticisms though.

>only two factions to choose from, no independent option
>Level cap is 30, so you only get 62 skill points to work with, essentially forcing you to min/max to pass skill checks

>>3868341
>>Level cap is 30, so you only get 62 skill points to work with, essentially forcing you to min/max to pass skill checks
This is not a bad thing, just not something players are used to. In too many games you can be a generalist, get companions to fill in for skills or use stat items so you can pretty much pass any skillcheck that comes up, which means there are no actual builds or replayability. It makes whatever skills you choose to "focus" on not matter.
You should not be able to pass all high difficulty speech, engineering, lockpicking, hacking, medicine, observation, science, etc. checks with a single character in a single playthrough. The Backgrounds and Traits can sometimes compensate for that to allow you to choose or pass some checks depending on which you picked.

While the balance maybe isn't perfect, too many modern RPGs allow players to just pass almost all checks which devalues any creation or build choice you made and makes replaying pointless.

>>3866028 (OP)
It’s no masterpiece but it does a pretty fucking solid throw for a modern RPG. But my god it’s doing poorly

>>3868330
The fuck are you talking about? It's complete shit as well.

>>3868370
You make a fair point. I suppose I'm just frustrated because I've gotten used to being able to lockpick in these kind of RPGs, and I can't do that in OW2 because I can't afford to waste any skill points in Lockpick.

>>3868577
Compelling, educated and rational argument. This is why I come here.

>>3868605
But enough about the post anon was replying to

I just finished the first zone and I think I'm done. It feels like Avowed with a sci-fi paint job. All the "exploration" really comes down to a few small buildings scattered around the map. Combat is mediocre and there are like four enemy types and guns in total.

>>3868990
>I just finished the first zone and I think I'm done. It feels like Avowed with a sci-fi paint job. All the "exploration" really comes down to a few small buildings scattered around the map. Combat is mediocre and there are like four enemy types and guns in total.
Each planet introduces more weapons types and has uniques with even more distinct behaviors. Weapon variety is not an issue in the game. The first planet is the least interesting one, but I'm not sure you were expecting when it's the same as any other game like this.

Is it just me or are most weapon mods fucking useless
And most perks for that matter, why even really put a single point into sneak or medical?
Just a very generic experience
At least it's inoffensive to play, and I really appreciate that there's no bullshit like encumbrance

>>3869012
>Is it just me or are most weapon mods fucking useless

Depends. Silencers are good for stealth builds, all aim mods are good, ones that just reduce recoil and stuff are good, plasma and shock mods are good. Some mods like double fire rate with lower damage or sawed-off I never use. Armor mods are much more impactful.

>And most perks for that matter, why even really put a single point into sneak or medical?

Many of them are good, some really impactful like you can unlock pickpocketing, being able to hack robots, more dialogue options. Some unlock interactions in conversations and in the world. Some like sneak gets more value on higher difficulties and can still come up in interactions. Medical is also better at higher difficulties, can tame creatures, inhaler upgrades and has some of the most interactions for conversations and in the world in the game.

>Just a very generic experience

Very strange comment. I can't think of many other games like it, especially when it comes to the level of reactivity and roleplaying. If you're comparing it to like New Vegas, that's the point.

I actually think this game would have been good, had they turned it into a linear shooter. The first time I had fun in this game was 15 hours in during the quest in the N-Ray range.

>>3866028 (OP)
That armour looks pretty cool. Shame about the monkeys.

>>3869016
Dorado and Cloister are the best planets in terms of design, missions and content.

>>3869015
>I can't think of many other games like it
It's literally fallout 3, which is itself oblivion/skyrim

>>3869024
The closest is New Vegas and the only ones doing games like this is Bethesda and Obsidian. Bethesda's last games were Fallout 4 (10 years ago), Fallout 76 (7 years ago and veyr different in a bad way) and Starfield (which was bad and infinitely worse than Outer Worlds 2). Skyrim came out 14 years ago. Only one of these is also set in space and none of them have a setting similar to Outer Worlds. Many things and advancements set it apart from these Bethesda games beyond this. Space settings are incredibly rare not just for RPGs, but games as a whole outside of spaceship sims.
Calling it generic makes no sense.

>>3869030
>Calling it generic makes no sense.
My guess is that retarded esls think generic means cheap/bad

>>3869030
>was bad
Sure
> infinitely worse than Outer Worlds
I have no idea why you keep saying this. It's terrible as well. The writing sucks,the gameplay is bad and it's just boring to play even at its best .

>>3869046
>I have no idea why you keep saying this
Because it's true. You're clearly irrational and biased anyway, so I don't have the energy to waste arguing with someone that unironically calls Outer Worlds 2 a bad game. Especially since you probably think Fallout 3 and Oblivion are amazing games.

Fallout 3 and Oblivion are both good games though

>>3869052
Even if you think that, both are heavily flawed games with a lot of problems which games like Outer Worlds 2 doesn't have. So calling those good and Outer Worlds 2 bad makes no sense. The combat, roleplaying, writing and level design is all worse in those games.
It's not that those games are bad, but if you think they're good while calling Outer Worlds 2 bad puts that persons character into question.

I liked Outerworlds 1 and I liked Starfield up to a certain point, the ship building was top tier though. Outerworlds 2 isn't as good as the first, its still a 7/10 game which is good, not great.

>>3868050
No it wasn't.
>no forced shit class start
>better balance, crafting, far better level design, generally one of the the best gameplay-story integration examples in history of RPGs

>>3869030
>>3869024
>>3869024
I dub this genre, Elderout

>>3866400
Just finished up, glad I gave it chance since I didn't like the first one. Marisol is best girl!

>>3869597
>Marisol is best girl!
Nah that would be Aza

What's the fucking point of exploring? I never find any interesting locations or decent loot. Clear out the same monster cave/bandit huts and wow some crafting supplies and a revolver I have 15 of.

>>3869601
To chase the possibility

>>3869601
What are you on about? There's good loot and interesting areas even on the first planet (Dorado and Cloister are better) that are optional.

I'm up to the third planet and haven't found anything approximating "good loot"
I guess I picked up a silenced sniper rifle

>>3866572
>I miss when games could just be alright. Modesty is dead

It's design. Or painful lack of it that makes obsidian games so unplayable. Just look at the op image, who would want to play that? Characters have zero personality.

>>3869628
Are the characters in your pic meant to have personality?

>>3869618
If you haven't found unique armor and weapons that are good, you're either not looking around much or you don't know what's good. Or even just lockpicking/pickpocketing if you don't explore a lot. One of the best guns in the entire game the Auto Hacker is on the first planet.

>>3869628
Let's be real, Mass Effect had the advantage of having multiple alien races. The humans in ME series were all bland apart from Jack.
The companions in Outer Worlds 2 is are fine, only the robot is boring as fuck. Niles is better than I expected and has a dash of Garrus to him. Marisol is fine, but is a bit too profesional for my liking. Aza is a murderhobo and probably the best design visually of them all.
Inez and Tristan are the ones that start out a bit grating since they've been brainwashed by their respective factions, but along their companion quests they become pretty good if you push them to challenge their ideas so they wake up from the brainwashing.

>>3869642
I find every unique
The only one I haven't scrapped is the sniper rifle from the station

>>3869597
>>3869600
Nah that would be VAL

>>3869648
So you scrap some of the best armor and guns in the game? While sticking to one of the worst weapon types? Ok. Well then, that's a you problem for not understanding how good they are.

I'm on the 3rd planet. I think I fucked up taking the ADHD flaw. Should I just restart so I can put my points in stats I actually want and not have to be a jack of all trades? I kinda want to be a sneaky scientist hacker that uses robots do do his bidding.

>>3866499
i don't know how you can say that having played pentiment (maybe you didn't)

>>3869696
NTA, but most weapons in this game just aren't practical unless you love getting overrun by enemy hordes while you're trying to reload your weapon. I've been using a plasma pistol almost exclusively since the second planet and it works just fine against every type of enemy.

>>3869724
Ranged weapons with quick reload, high DPS and a bit higher mag size are the best.
So the light revolver is bad, but light pistol, heavy revolver, assault rifles, machine guns, shock rifle, shock machine gun, trench shotgun and shit are great.

>>3869724
>>3869730
Marksman rifles are good too, especially with the damage boosts you can get from perks.

>>3869717
Brother you're over halfway through the game and you want to restart?

I put maximum points into speech and observation and to be honest I barely notice any difference. There's an occasional speech option, but it never changes anything

If you didn't select the "flawed" flaw then you're a pussy

>>3869876
Its actually not bad since you be focusing on 2-3 perks anyway.

>>3869876
>Flawed but no Profligate Spender or Easily Distracted
For what purpose?

>>3866613
>things they added is immense.
lmao settle down, it's definitely an improvement from the first but it's not "immense."

>>3869880
I haven't triggered them because I only focus on a few skills and I don't buy anything

>>3869892
Fair. I noticed the trigger on Profligate Spender is a little unclear, I triggered it the first time by spending ~4K, ended up reloading for something else and then couldn't trigger it again until spending 12k. I like it though, it's a fun way to change how you play the game.

>never buys anything
>kleptomania
>only 19k bits
How? Do you just break everything down for crafting?

I honestly don't know why I bother picking up or scrapping shit
I have 400 cloth

>>3869903
>Do you just break everything down for crafting?
yes, literally
and then I don't craft anything because there's nothing worthwhile except an ammo top-up now and then

>speak to tunnel foreman
>"well, you can't help unless you can see through this rock and tell us what's on the far side!"
>use N-ray and see protectorate on the other side
>"well, you can't help unless you can see through this rock and tell us what's on the far side!"
yeah OK thanks game

Dogshit game. Combat can be fun, but don't give a fuck about the story or any of the characters. The dialogue and writing is shit. I made it partly through Dorado but I'm done with this game. Same thing happened to me with Avowed.

>>3869915
>don't give a fuck about the story or any of the characters
So like all of these types of games then. Or are you gonna sit here and tell me you were super engaged in the story and characters of Skyrim?

>The dialogue and writing is shit.
I'd argue it's pretty good, but my problem is that it's a bit restrained. Some of the comedy would've landed better if they committed more to it, especially if they pushed the dark comedy angle.

But if you don't want to play more that's on you. It's the best game of this type since New Vegas and one of the best as a whole.

>>3869915
The writing in Avowed was pretty good, though.

>>3869907
Because it's there.

>>3869909
I figured, I think I had 20k in creature parts by the time I finished the first planet, heh. I like it, though, a crafting-only playthrough would be interesting.

>>3869914
Huh, it worked fine for me, although the foreman sends you back to her boss.

>>3869914
A guess is you need to be close enough and look at them long enough for all the enemies to be marked on the map. Or you just reload a prior save and retry, which you should have multiple of anyway.
The quest structure is
>talk to commander
>go to the dig site, talk to the person there, look through the wall, talk to the npc there again
>talk to the commander
>return, the dig site is attacked, kill the enemies
>return to commander for reward

Kind of a poorly structered quest with too much back and forth. Part of it being because I imagine they didn't have a good way to handle the wall getting dug through or blown up, so they had to get you to move far enough away so as not to notice they just deleted the wall model.

The strikers chanting is the first bit of dialogue I've enjoyed in the entire game

honestly do vendors EVER sell anything worthwhile?
They have ammo, consumables I don't need, and armour that isn't any better than what you pick off the ground

>>3869962
>The strikers chanting is the first bit of dialogue I've enjoyed in the entire game
Auntie quests tend to be the most enjoyable for me, since they tend to make fun of corpos and be more absurd, like the Mantisaur commander.

>>3869967
oh true I forgot about that
they're also the most reasonable faction
>Protectorate
brainwashed drones, humanity's death
>Order
academics unfit to lead, weak
>Corpos
true humans, selfishness, innovation, guile; fit to lead

>>3869963
>honestly do vendors EVER sell anything worthwhile?

Ammo, recipes, mods for guns you don't have recipes for, lockbox keys, some uniques, some med stims and sometimes new gun types you haven't found yet.

>>3869969
>>Protectorate
They're supposed to be true communists (not the fake kind like Russia and China) but lost their way when their founder passed away so they just became a bunch of mindless drones and corruption set in.

Did people say corpo before cyberpunk 2077? I know it's way more known than the table top game.

>>3869993
as long as the word "corporate" has existed, people have said corpo

>>3866028 (OP)
Best way to play this game is on Hard and focus more on stealth.

>>3870003
Best way to play this game is to do whatever you want

>>3866028 (OP)
If any of you give money to Obsidian to play this then you were quite likely dropped on your head at birth or you're under the age of 25 and a clinical retard.

>>3870130
Playing good actual RPGs over shitposting on 4chan ad nauseam? We bow to your supreme autism.

>>3870130
>buying games in 2025
i have not pay for a new game in years.

Remember when Obsidian was based and on our gamer side? It's why we funded Pillars of Eternity

>>3870329
>Remember when Obsidian was based and on our gamer side?
No, because such a time never existed.
They did, however, used to have somewhat competent writers.
I wonder what the fuck John Gonzales is up to?

>>3869967
>>3869969
>siding with a corporation
You people sicken me, the Order of Ascendant is the only faction worth supporting

>>3870330
Bro? Your KotOR2? Literally built for us chuds.
>hot babe who fights in underwear to arouse the male gaze
>some blind bitch who also wants to fuck you (I never did)
>meanwhile female main characters get some ugly retard and Anton

>>3870336
Video game developers are the spitting image of the Nietzschean last man.
They are rootless cosmopolitans, fags, degenerates and freaks.
Their mere existence is proof that the genetic fitness of the species as a whole is not great.

Every single time I look up a developer to see where they're from, their country is literally never listed. It's all corpo PR speak about passionate faggots.
Words cannot describe how much I despise them.

If they're on your side, you're on the wrong side.

Chat is this true?

>>3870330
He's back with Obsidian now, Josh is putting the crew back together.

>>3870339
brother you're on a videogame board

bullet blender is my GOAT