Thread 2079158

Rise of Radicalism is one of the mods of all time

>Rise of Radicalism
Qrd? Never played it.

>EAW crystal empire is getting a full rework
I love this mod man

>>2079162
mostly schizo paths, gameplay focused mod

Can I replace Burt with someone else with the NSM? I'd probably go Hitlerite but if that keeps Burt then maybe not.

>>2079176
Nah not yet, NSM is getting multiple leaders in 1.1 though.

>>2079176
NSM is by far the worst(content wise) tag in the mod, unless you're already well into it just play literally anything else

If you defend TFR by this point, you are my enemy.
You are my ideological enemy, you are my enemy in terms of art, you are my enemy in terms of blood.

>nulanguage
trash

>>2079158 (OP)
isn't that the one where MacArthur starts off in Arizona or something leading a revolutionary army?
if it is I had fun with it.

>>2078952
inshallah they will make solidus snake's sons of liberty as an april fools path

>>2079301
I want my Wagner Outer Heaven larp.

>>2079316
Gotta wait for the Wagner tag led by Gleb in the heart of Africa to get content.

>>2079207
quick rundown?

You can do some pretty funny things with the influence mechanic in CWIC. Lend leasing the equipment to do this took less than 2 years btw.

>>2079319
Tragic but I guess it will have to do.
Actually an africa update could be kinda fun if they give you national spirits to deal with the lack of supplies, lotta wars and not exactly a whole lot keeping the weirdo warlords from taking over once the USA falls apart.

>>2079356
More chinese and russian influence fighting french influence

>>2079358
Yeah basically, I guess china has its hands busy with the east asian cold war but they could still probably find the time to mess around in Africa.

>>2079343
It is now June 1980. Just 30 years ago, Korea was an impoverished statelet, reeling from the Japanese occupation and hacked in two, thanks to the perfidious Yankees. With the success of the Grand Liberation Campaign, the southern half of Korea was emancipated paving the way for our current prosperity.

The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is the 7th largest economy in the world, bested only by the British, French, and Germans.

Our meteoric rise was only possible thanks to the removal of the Americans, through mass modernization and development of the land, through Juche, and cooperation with brother socialist nations the world over.

>>2079324
Last thread, someone/multiple anons posted screenshots from the KX Discord of a dev having public meltdowns over how much he hated TFR. It was also revealed that he lurks these threads and that one of the rants were made based on screenshots he found on 4chan: >>2072607
Anons who know him also noted that he's essentially online in the KX Discord seething about other mods 24/7 and that this type of behavior is normal for him.

tl;dr no big deal just some butthurt guy that needs to take a chill pill and not sperg in public.

>>2079135
Sounds fair, and it's probably cause I've not been recruiting militia that much.

I kinda wanted to let LoS live for now, so I had a smaller front, but they do have steel which I have to keep importing, so prob not a bad idea.

What should I run as my main lines, besides militia, considering I am probably not mechanizing the army any time soon?

>>2079165
How much focused on the path of being a subject of Equestria? Will they be able to be integrated?

Apparently asking for an up to date mod for the base game that adds a bunch of states to the map, without turning every single tile into a state, is too much to ask.

Are there any submods that fix Asia's lack of content in Red flood?

Secondary-power-in-denial moment.

Go back to /pol/ and have your slap fight about that bombed out shithole country over there.

Russians and Ukrainians both called Kiev just like they used to before the war, it's just the eternally cucked anglokikes that have changed how that city used to be called for centuries just because... honestly, why exactly? To appease the chronically online politicaly correct goyim?

>>2079530
call Kiev*

>>2079434
Libs hyper seething at TFR will never not be funny. Almost every other mod is full of neoliberal moralist slop but the moment a mod goes the opposite direction and opposes all forms of neolib morality it get's crucified by these "people"

Do you think Maoist Cascadia will be able to join APLA's faction? I don't fully understand why they would fight.

>>2079530
>Why
There's a small minority in Ukraine that give a shit. I mean, really give a shit, not just have a regional preference based on local dialects and customs (which is fine to have). But this cultural identity was then sold to Redditors as a huge fucking deal. Low-key if they were smarter you'd almost think this was deliberately meant as a means to fill the void left in the vacuum of the end of history Redditor.

>>2079544
>You have to demonize what I hate too otherwise you agree with Atomwaffen and Putin :(
I don't get these people either. It's like they really need a TNO dev to tell them what to feel at every turn otherwise it's too complex for them.

>>2079553
From the RCP's perspective, the APLA is a suburban white movement, more similar to PF than it is to them. And they're revisionists/dengists/capitalist roaders/social imperialists/whatever other maoist insult you can think of.

>>2079560
tbf the alpa factions are
Literal socdems
Anarchists who just free murder rapists because solidarity
Dengists who just want to turn america into a state capitalist puppet of china
Christian nationalists with brezhnev aesthetics

>>2079595
>alpa factions
Which way young man?

>>2079500
I made a custom localisation mod for Kaiserreich that re-adds English localisation because seeing all the retarded spellings in the Ukraine was annoying me too much

>>2079530
For the same reason why people started to call it 'The Ukraine" and write Zelensky's name with y's. Virtue signalling.

This is a reminder that one of the TNO America devs is quite openly pro-Russian, he even dropped "to the last ukranian" in a project written by him and in another, more recent project written by him, he dropped a "oh woe and sad" that there are "young men" dying in Donbas.

>>2079434
I expected mod devs to bitch about it, but KX? Of all the mods, why would they get mad about it? It's the same shit they're doing but in the modern era.

>>2079648
TNO is a radlib mod, he'll probably be banned in a month for transphobia

>>2079650
Why would he be banned if he's deep inside of the inner clique? lol. lmao.

>>2079649
Picrel: KX dev calling another mod memey.
And I like KX so I wonder of he even plays his own mod.

>>2079664
These are the kinds of people that'd rat out their mom to the secret police of a Reddit upboat over a ten year old Facebook post.

What could have been....
I really fucked up by not taking Sulaymaniyah. Looks like shit without it.

>>2079738
All but Yugoslavia, Romania and Albania are my vassals.

>>2079648
How do Hearts of Iron players get a war is bad mentality? Does he also think Britain should have signed a peace deal that just allowed Duestchland to take western Poland, Nothern France and the Lowlands for the reason "Britain needs to end the war as soon as possible"

>>2079750
They should have.

>>2079757
That wasn't the question. What reason should they have done that?

>>2079758
Look at them now. Great 'victory'.
>How do Hearts of Iron players get a war is bad mentality
By realizing that a videogame that abstracts the tolls of war away isn't a good representation of the real world.

>>2079757
>>2079760
Should America not getten involved in Korea and allowed total Northern victory? You a big supporter of North Korea?

>>2079764
Korea wouldn't be a militaristic dictatorship if they unified due to militarisim being a consequence of America joining, Korea on the other hand would be a hyper capitalist shithole in any scenario where worst Korea exists.

>>2079750
>How do Hearts of Iron players get a war is bad mentality?
By being able to separate reality from video games like most adults and arriving at perfectly normal anti-war stances independently of their day-to-day interests.

>>2079764
You're a mentally ill retard, seriously shut the fuck up you pseudo-intellectual faggot. There are perfectly valid reasons to think wars are bad just like there are perfectly valid reasons to think wars can be justified or even good. None of these should in any way have anything to do with the video games you play if you're a functioning adult. Your question is fucking retarded, holy shit this is a bad one.

>>2079764
Yes, glory to Best Korea.

>>2079777
Why does it make you feel really uncomfortable to say what your principles mean?
>>2079780
>>2079775
Again this sounds like you just support North Korea and don't actually hold anti-war principles.
What about the Golan Heights?

>>2079158 (OP)
>haven't played HOI4 in years
>try out Kaiserreich because my brother keeps recommending it
>play France to get a feel for the mod/game
>it's decently fun, I like the world they've made
>try Germany
>election minigame
>playing card economy minigame
>Ruhr protests minigame
What a fucking mess. Why do modders love to cram minigames into the tiny decision menu of PDX games? It's so fucking cluttered and annoying

>>2079790
>What about the Golan Heights?
The entirety of the Middle East should be glassed.

>>2079790
Video games aren't real life you stupid cunt and someone liking a videogame doesn't have to influence their real life politics you mentally ill literal subhuman.

>>2079798
Because while you were gone, a mod named TNO became popular at a time when it was also hijacked by a clique of people that don't play HOI4 and wanted to turn it into The Campaign Trail. This briefly tricked people into thinking that having no gameplay is good, actually.

Go and play The Fire Rises or KaiseRedux. Those should be closer to what you and others like.

>>2079808
Yeah but somebody who played Hoi4 should have a vague idea of what happened in World War II? How many people who claim to he pro-peace would actually be willing to publicly hold to their principles that North France and Eastern Poland ought to belong to Duestchland?

>>2079817
Video games aren't real life you retarded, pseudo-intellectual sack of shit. Fuck off.

>>2079826
Yes, but in real life, Duestchland did occupy Northern France and Western Poland, that was real there are pictures.

>>2079595
>Dengists who just want to turn america into a state capitalist puppet of china
If thats the case then why don't I get my kickbacks as China when I hlp them win hm? checkmate westoid.

Texmod update, I suppose, for TFR.
>Texas split date moved up in order to provide player influence on factions and faction strength via focus tree and event decisions and give players who want to play in Texas an easier route in (also gives the AI more of a chance to do AI things)
>events and news alerts impacting GDP at home and abroad, primarily oil companies fleeing and violence explaining why a motorcycle gang composed of a bunch of fat old farts and their fat ugly wives (and token crusty old twinks, apparently) managed to take over fucking Houston of all places
>Texas focus tree established, influence over Reds, ATF, and Nationalists primary focus
>La Raza can suck it because I'm a racist and cannot be bothered to think overmuch about the plight of mexicans and they're all communists anyway and should be rolled into the Reds and probably will if I can be bothered to actually think about them which I can't
>bandidos mission tree, foundation for lead-in to [redacted] or two variations of a Free Cities-esque arcology in downtown Houston because why not it would explain shit currently the largest and most in-depth tree at 35 and is designed to be burned through quickly at present
>new government, technocratic indirect junta, for [redacted] or university rebellion resulting in a bunch of students with guns "governed" by the faculty of said university complete with references to the St Scholastica riots and ATF just doing Waco things and a whole bunch of lynching
Next:
>more events explaining bullshit
>nationalist tree
>ATF tree
>W.A.R. pirate radio
>pirating photoshop
After that:
>Reds tree
>more integration and testing
>fucking about with images
>government for [redacted]
>events during the bellum omnium contra omnes
>foreign volunteer management, Russians for Nationalists, chinks for Reds, potentially Germans and/or Japanese for others depending on date and triggers
After after that
>postbellum events and trees

>>2079798
Sand France or Red France? Sand is pretty fun, Red is old as shit.

>>2079828
And yet, videogames aren't real life and you're mentally ill for suggesting that people should inform their beliefs based on them.

>>2079833
Nice to see that you're making some progress on your mod. Good luck with it!
>ATF
Oh man that'll be positively antichrist tier, can't wait for it to be a domestic UN.

>>2079852
They could actually ally with atomwaffen because the leader of the satanists is an fbi informant

>>2079852
Yeah sorry my bad. People that play Hoi4 don't generally know that WWII happened and there is no correlation between the knowledge and other hobbies people have, and what video games people play.
I should refrain from syaing things like "people who play Kerbal Space Program are more likely to know have passing interest in space flight than the average person"

>>2079833
>No Total Beaner Sweep
Sad, still hope this comes out though. Would definitely be down to play as a Texan faction in TFR.

>>2079764
Juche developed as it did BECAUSE of the American intervention, so if they didn't, it's very likely that it would've been a moderate communist country for a while, then reformed into a market socialist state like China did.
So yeah, America should not have gotten involved.

>>2079905
It's more that I can't put my mind into the La Raza space since every La Raza type I've ever been in the presence of has been a fucking retard who spends more time complaining about stupid shit no one should care about than actually thinking about things that people do care about. Maybe later, but hopefully someone who is from or grew up in that sort of environment could shit it out for me to edit and move into a sort of reverse-conquest-reclamation of burrito land from the cartels.

>>2079833
>Free Cities-esque arcology
What the fuck? Kino???

>>2079985
You know it. The decisions are going to be a bitch.

>>2079813
>play The Fire Rises or KaiseRedux
NTA, but I can't. This CPU is old enough to vote.

>>2079897
Holy mother of mental illness, fuck off from the Internet and learn the difference between real life and video games. Or shoot yourself in the head, either or works for me.

>>2079989
I hope this mod actually releases and is fun and not just a toozer mod. Have they revealed any other unifiers yet?

>>2079997
I'd recommend OWB then. But if not, consider just playing an old Sim City game instead.

>>2079983
chicano ethnonationalism is better represented by the Brown Berets who I think are in Arizona or something anyway in TFR. Rolling the ones in Texas into the gommunists is entirely reasonable. Not a Texan myself but it seems like Texas Hispanics are pretty politically simply due to making up so much of the state and local governments and having joined both major parties in numbers.

>>2080006
Yeah you're right I should stop assuming people who "play" visual novels are literate

What does HoI4 and the mods require for smooth framerate? A lot of RAM and a SSD for fast load times or good CPU? It doesn't seem to be a game that requires a lot of graphics so I don't think it needs a powerful GPU

>>2080028
What the fuck does literacy have to do with a normal human being's ability to tell reality from fiction you stupid cunt?

>>2079764
I am
glory to the People's revolution
glory to the Kims

>>2080093
...so you are admitting that there is a statistical link between persons hobbies and other things that are true about them?

I hope Best Korea content for TFR doesn't take forever to come out.

I wish Japan in TFR wasn't do boring. Personally, I would take some inspiration from Va11ha11a there. Considering it already has powerfull multipolar paragon Russia and dismantled civil war US. Japan should go deeper into becoming cyberpunk hell

>>2080117
They've got some extremist paths in the works, hopefully a cyberpunk/total corpo victory path is in the works as well.

>>2079197
The dev who made this tree was associated with Czar and had to be removed as a result. All of his "content" (none of the focuses in that image have effects) had to be removed as well. It was nothing worth shedding tears about, since it had nonsense like oversaturated AI paths and other LARP dogshit that does not fit modern NS movements in America.

>>2080121
Looking forward to it!

>>2080128
We'll get a facelift for them eventually, Czarfag removal or not. It'll be fine.

>>2080128
Damn, is the Blood Tribe path still gonna be in or nah? If not please tell me NSM are at least still getting a rework/overhaul, they really need one.

I thought there would be more to the latest KR update. Devs made it seem like USA, Ottomans, German East Asia and Japan would get new or reworked focus trees. Literally the only new content is for India and the Philippines

>>2080128
>>2080128
>All of his "content" (none of the focuses in that image have effects) had to be removed as well. It was nothing worth shedding tears about
Images are like 80% of the work. Writing effects like add 2 factories takes 5 seconds

>>2080136
Literally nothing good about the update.

>>2080139
You'd think that but a lot of those fags are like TNO devs and never played the game and had no idea how to add an effect.

>>2080040
You can get away with 8 gb ram if you're budgeting but I'd very much recommend higher if your able to/want to play late game modded
>>2080106
chinks at TFR redux (not an actual redux just a badly named submod) are adding North korea content. TFR will probably avoid it for a while because the TFR devs don't want to integrate the redux for being more on the side of minigames.
>>2080139
Not excusing the tards in KR and TNO for taking years to make updates for single tags. However the current state of NSM looks a bit hard to sort out without making it just a rehash of natsoc patriot front or atomwaffen. The really only way that I can see for it is to make it into either a mafia/gang state using nazi aesthetics or a more memey spartanist biker neo mongol state

>>2080182
>TFR will probably avoid it for a while
Coulda sworn they were confirmed to be getting official content, but I could be misremembering.

>>2080182
>I'd very much recommend higher [than 8 gigs of ram] if your able to/want to play late game modded
That's for the load times, right? What about the in-game framerate? Tried to play TFR but it's moving at less than 10 FPS.

>>2080206
What specs?

Great things going on in the ai community
https://chub.ai/characters/vespera_evernight/james-mason-3ad0a58cca89

>>2080225
>James Mason chatbot
We've peaked as a fanbase.

>>2080131
NSM will still get a facelift of course, still no rough estimate but somewhere along the 1.1 timeframe or afterwards is our probably estimate.
>>2080132
Blood tribe are still in, but obviously not the nonsense the previous dev was cooking up (having them dress up as greek neoplatonists when they are clearly Odinists, for example)

>>2080231
Saved you a click

>>2080225
i can finaly have my fishing trip roleplay with grampa

Any info on if winning the election will have further impact on the civil war with the US update? I understand keeping Trump in Colorado rather then DC but I feel like there should be more options especially with the incumbent 'remaining' in office.
I was blaring this whilst playing as Trump before the civil war, really felt thematic especially as my paranoia crept up and I began to Nixon larp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE0meJ3Kfwg

>>2079434
I doubt he's even played it. I just played Schwab and it genuinely had some of the best writing I've seen in a HoI4 mod, namely the post-2EW Catharsis events. A lot of them were written almost more as poems than conventional events. I don't know why it would make someone this angry. It blows TNO's walls of text about South American electoral politics out of the water at the very least

>>2080296
The tranime pictures and Cyberpunk references were uncalled for. For most part it was just commie "le capitalism" bad messaging so I don't see why they would be mad about it

>>2080296
>>2080332
>I doubt he's played it
>I don't see why they would be mad about it
All those screenshots were from from 4chan. No, he didn't play it and he's mad because he's making up reasons to be mad about a mod he didn't play.

>>2080332
I saw only one event that used an anime image in my run, but I could have missed something. Either way, a lot of it is memey to be fair but I still think the writing on these Catharsis events is pretty good given the medium

>>2080349
Why does Klaus Schwab need tranime picture? I remember when people were coping that tranime is only in Japan but now their next cope is that it's only one picture?

>>2080357
>wahhhh
>wahhhhhh
>i'm a whiny little faggot
>i'm gonna cry about anime because i'm such a massive faggot wahhhh

>>2080332
>>2080349
>>2080357
The only anime in an event is the last one titled release. I found it to be pretty good but would have preferred something more tasteful like dance macabre

>>2080117
>>2080121
Doesn't Japan in TFR have Lain imagery in reference to Innovation's path? I had been playing it for a while and didn't complete it but was hoping for some atmospherics/developments pointing towards Protocol 7-level happenings and The Wired shenanigans developing in Japan but I don't quite remember getting anything in that vein.

Or I just completely missed it all like a dumbass because it was my first time ever playing TFR, but I haven't heard of anything like that being posted or discussed here when Japan gets brought up.

>>2080357
>simplistic drawing
>is this tranime?

Kill yourself

>>2080401
>muh tranime website
>>>/a/

>>2080332
>Catharsis is chud propaganda
>Catharsis is commie propaganda
Which is it?

>>2080332
Do you always have to sperg out about anime on a Hoi4 modding thread.

...as we all know Western Media is far less LGBT than Eastern Media.

>>2080442
You will never produce something as great as Tale of Genji, dumb westoid.

>>2080405
4chan started out as and remains an anime website you inbred retard.

>>2080410
Radlibs will call you everything under the sun if you criticise the most blatantly curropt caricature of capitalism

Do you guys think there'll be Post-Catharsis content/skeleton content akin to how TNO had After-Midnight?

>>2080461
Probably not because the HRE just collapsed into warlords because the guy holding it together killed himself.
The catharsis on the other hand is people going completely insane and turning to base animalistic instincts. If you read the events that pop up while the catharsis is ongoing you see the people killing each other as much as the police.
At most it might get an event/superevent

>>2080461
Also while pic is kino it would probably look more like link as the rioters are near starving and have no access to weapons. The lowest k:d I've seen for someone fighting them is 80:1
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R-vUc5XCciE

>>2080461
>After Midnight/WEF
AM is my proudest contribution to TNO so maybe I'm biased but I'd love to see the world develop afterwards. AM was fun to work on and see the results of because it showed life after the collapse and had a nice mix of hope and horror. For every good ending there was someone even worse than Tabby so there was something for everyone. And that was despite the TNO leads fighting us every step of the way to make it a railroaded narrative. Just imagine what the TFR team could do.

>>2080475
That's like saying that AM could never be done because "it ends with the country collapsing" and the pointing to the events saying that it's the end of Russia. Just think outside of the box.

>>2080481
Hear me out: after overrunning victory points, they actually manage to loot weapons and establish workshops.

>>2080484
The description of the rioters as the catharsis goes on describes them as becoming open cannibals and rapists with any loosely formed groups completely collapsing as people tear each other apart.
There isn't really any state that can form out of that. Maybe they could change it from a no name tag and just copy red flood and call it free beasts of europe and make the leader image a picture of a riot.

>>2080461
TOTAL WORLD GOVERNMENT DEATH

>>2080481
Yeah the deathsquad cops wouldn't even get close to the rioters, they'd just ventilate the entire street with bullets and let the Free Hand of the Market sort them out.
>>2080482
What does After Midnight actually have? I've never done an HRE run.

>>2080392
>using an old reddit meme
go back

>>2080501
>TOTAL WORLD GOVERNMENT DE-
-ACK
*AI controlled IFVs and SPGs have been deployed*

>>2080522
>>TOTAL WORLD GOVERNMENT DE--ACK
The Catharsis TANKED that btw, all globalists will be hung with their own intestines on the Day of The Release btw.

>>2080529
holy cope
the Akashic records are being located as we speak
the expedition? It already arrived in Antarctica.
Vi are here und ze agenda is quite clear.

THE CARTHARSIS SHALL OVERCOME
DEATH TO THE GLOBALIST
DEATH GLOBALISM
DEATH TO THE ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT
DEATH TO THE CAPITALIST
DEATH TO CAPITALISM
DEATH TO THE ORDOLIBERAL ORDER
DEATH TO THOSE WHO BETRAYED EUROPE
DEATH TO DEATH ITSELF
DEATH SHALL BECOME OROBOROS AND WE SHALL WORSHIP IT UPON THE GRAVES OF INHUMANITIES CHIME
MAY CATHARSIS ENVELOP ALL OF HUMANITY
MAY THE LONG MARCH TO REVENGE BE SET
HAIL
HAIL
HAIL
DEATH TO SCHWABS
DEATH TO THE FOURTH INDUTRIAL REVOLUTION
DEATH TO MODERNITY
DEATH TO ENTROPY
DEATH THE THE NEW WORLD ORDER

>>2080538
>Fucked up the last and third lines
fml

>>2080538
>minor spelling mistake

>>2080491
Yes, and Tabby's events describe the end of Russia, chemical warfare making the entire landmass mostly uninhabitable and that people are melting away from the poison. If it ended there, you wouldn't have thought twice about it and made the same arguments about After Midnight.

>>2080503
It takes place some time after the fall of Taboritsky. Russia is once again covered in warlord states. These range from killpeopleist remnants to monbol KGB agents to bandits to Satanists to actual decent people. You get to switch between them and read stories and after learning about them you get to pick one and try to reunite Russia. This gives you a final news event and then an epilogue that says that despite all that happened Russia will heal with time, albeit scarred.

>>2080529
>>2080534
I love that we have WEF vs Catharsis rioter in-character flame wars now.

>>2079750
>Does he also think Britain should have signed a peace deal that just allowed Duestchland to take western Poland, Nothern France and the Lowlands for the reason "Britain needs to end the war as soon as possible"
In the first place, wouldn't letting Germany run roughshod all over Europe be the "pro-war" position? By not getting yourself involved, you're letting Germany start more wars.
Might as well argue that self-defense and violence are the same thing at that point.

I like to think Lafayette and Radelsfuhrer linked up and kicked off The Catharsis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omzJvwYO440&list=RDomzJvwYO440&start_radio=1&ab_channel=NewOrder-Topic

>>2080556
That would be a fun deep lore.

>>2080546
imo I prefer it remaining an anarchy as all national, religious, ideological and political leaders have been killed off by Klaus and all their ideas suppressed into irrelevancy, leading to the rioters resorting to directionless rage to find any meaning in life.
Also just because actually having an anarchy that can't be stabilised for decades instead of 4 billion warlord states would be more unique than other mods

>>2080357
Because anime good.

>>2080587
Devastating truth nuke.

>>2080586
That's a perfectly fine take I just disagreed with the notion that it was impossible. Having it be a huge anarchy gives it a great sense of finality and there's nothing wrong with that.

>>2080617
nta, but I did love AM, one of the coolest updates in tno (one of the only updates really...) but I do kinda also think it would take a good deal longer than after Tabby for even just warlord states to form, though... maybe there could be a very tiny and small handful of them as islands in a sea of chaos, or around the far east of the (former) World Goverment since that area didn't really have to endure it for the same amount of time.

>>2080555
...but that is my point. I am replying to the idea that Russia should be given western Ukraine in the name of "anti-war" principles. I think this is ridiculous, and saying this makes me believe one is operating in bad faith.
I don't feel the need to pretend like war is automatically bad for political brownie points, so I would just say Russia deserves to win if I believe it, but my other principles forbid this. That being that Slavs are inherently inferior and so a powerful slavic state should not be allowed to exist.

>>2080650
>...but that is my point.
Ah, good to know. I'm sorry for misunderstanding you by taking the words too literally, then.

>>2080650
>That being that Slavs are inherently inferior and so a powerful slavic state should not be allowed to exist
And how would you enact this? This sort of impotent posturing only emboldens Slavic nationalists as it 1. Gives them a common enemy and 2. They know no nation will actually do anything to them if they have a strong military and nuclear warheads. I skimmed through most of the war/peace discussion in this thread, what do you personally think the EU/NATO should do then with Ukraine? I am not asking you for criticisms of their current or previous strategies but asking you what they should do.

>>2080410
I've seen TFR get called leftist just because the People's Liberation Army is one of the easier paths, and TFR get called right-wing because of the wacky paths and the focus trees. I blame mods like Kaiserreich where the devs put everything in favour of one group over the others.

>>2080673
>And how would you enact this?
I would do exactly as the West was/is doing? I'm sure our motivations are at odds, but the actions they require us to take are the same. Slavic nations will inevitably fall behind without conquest or productive breed put under their rule. By giving equipment to Ukraine, the ideal is that the war ends with near white peace, so long as Russia is stopped from expanding, they will eventually wither to irrelevance. If you let the Slavs wear each other out, you don't have to expend lives containing the threat. Of course if Ukraine (or anyone else) starts to become the predominant slavic state, and tries to expand the plan changes to lend leasing Russia, the point is not the specific country you help, just that any war between two slavic countries ends up costly and pointless.
NATO should be demolished and a near identical organization with the ability to vote nations out should be formed. Then, we should slowly ways with plausible denyablity to kick slavic nations out of NATO2, and it should be obvious with the rest of my post, but Ukraine should not be allowed into any defensive alliance.

>>2080708
Fuck off Klaus Schwab

TNO Redux is updating Omsk in 2 weeks

>>2080725
>took literal years for Omsk to finally get 2WRW content
None of the other warlords are ever going to be finished

>>2080708
>I would do exactly as the West was/is doing?
Half-assing support and writing strongly worded letters dreaming of balkanizing Russia? This was has been fought atrociously by both sides and the collective West has absolutely mishandled it with their disjointed and lethargic response just as Russia mishandled the initial invasion by trying to blitz the enemy whilst outnumbered.
>the war ends with near white peace
Yes but how will you attain this? "Just keep doing what the West is doing" will not get a white peace, it will embolden the Russians as if your only threat is to keep doing what has failed to kick them out for the last three years then they will just keep doing what they have done in that time - keep fighting.
>so long as Russia is stopped from expanding, they will eventually wither to irrelevance
This is massive wish fulfilment, they will not become as influential as the USSR if they remain as they are but to call them irrelevant when they sit on such immense resources is genuinely ignorant. If for whatever reason they somehow lose all interest or ability to fight offensive wars or proxy conflicts then they will be still be a titan of energy which the developing word will look to especially as the Sino-Russian influence overtakes in continents such as Africa and Asia.
>If you let the Slavs wear each other out, you don't have to expend lives containing the threat.
How far will this go? Will the Russians have to fight the Polish and Czechs before you decide it is worth your people's attention? If you do not want to share it then fair enough but what is your ethnicity? I am Anglo-Saxon and my view of the conflict is that it has snowballed out of control so that the only solution is a military victory, I do not support my nations entry into the war but I am not blind that both NATO and their Eastern comparison have pragmatic reasons for doing what they are doing. I do not attach personal preference to either side.

>>2080708
>NATO should be demolished and a near identical organization with the ability to vote nations out should be formed
All that would do is concentrate power into the most globohomo elements of Europe.
>Then, we should slowly ways with plausible denyablity to kick slavic nations out of NATO2, and it should be obvious with the rest of my post, but Ukraine should not be allowed into any defensive alliance.
You have literally just given the Russians everything they want.

>>2080740
I would love to see the Russian Naval invasion of Bulgaria. I don't think it will go as well for Russia as you think it will.
>>2080738
>Half-assing support and writing strongly worded letters dreaming of balkanizing Russia?
I mean, in the overview of throwing money and supplies at Russias' enemies, not the specific way we have gone about it
>Yes but how will you attain this? "Just keep doing what the West is doing" will not get a white peace
That's a bold statement, perhaps a true one, but I don't know how you could know, Russia has began to look to its allies for lend lease. Of course I don't think "Russian collapse any day now" but I don't think "Ukrainian collapse any day now". It's a war of attrition.
Even if Ukraine is lost, it is only because we failed to send support properly, with the hindsight of this war, Russia will not have such an easy time in Slovakia.
>it will embolden the Russians
I mean next you'll say that Italian lend lease to Nationalist Spain was more hurtful than helpful... or that US lend lease to the USSR was more hurtful than helpful.

>russia stronk nato weak
>nato stronk russia weak
bore off both of you

>>2080215
This is an A8-7670K

Imagine if The Catharsis, should it ever become playable, had a leader that was literally (You) as a metanarrative entity that lead the remnants of humanity's nature against the WEF, and then against any and every form of government.

Loji vs the Catharsis once it comes to east asia
Even more anger or will anger be replaced with lust?

>>2080801
A machine will save humanity.

>>2080759
>Russian invasion of Bulgaria
Or alternatively using every other new option you give them after kicking out what was once the Warsaw pact due to ethnic reasons. You think a general Western pull-out from Eastern Europe would not give the Russians a million options to infiltrate the countries with out ordering tanks over the border?
>It's a war of attrition
That is true, I do not make the presumption that a Russian victory is a given but if we are going by attritional doctrine then the Russians simply can outlast the Ukrainians if the current levels of Western involvement are maintained. If the Western levels decrease which has been signalled by statesmen in the United States and even a few members of the alliance in Europe then the odds stack even more in Moscow's favour.
>I mean next you'll say that Italian lend lease to Nationalist Spain was more hurtful than helpful... or that US lend lease to the USSR was more hurtful than helpful.
No I wouldn't because that is ridiculous and completely separate from my point. I do not see how you even got to that conclusion when the 'embolden the Russians' comment was about if no change in supply upwards occurs from the West or any attempt to escalate then the Russians will keep fighting in Ukraine as they have done for the last three years.
>Even if Ukraine is lost, it is only because we failed to send support properly, with the hindsight of this war, Russia will not have such an easy time in Slovakia.
Is this after you have kicked Slovakia out of the defensive alliance because they are Slavic? They would have a much harder time if they weren't even in Slovakia because NATO kept them protected.

Please sto feeding these pseudo intellectual retards.

>>2080763
>>2080824
That will be my last reply, I apologise for shitting up the thread.

>>2080833
>SS in 1926

>>2080461
>catharsis happens
>Fist of the North Star thugs come pouring out of every apartment, back alley, manhole and suicide booth

>>2080848
We are going on a trip anon

>>2080759
>>2080819
These too retards really prove that globalists truly did win, if even retards on a self proclaimed counter culture forum spout proglobalost propaganda.
Truly, despite things like the final episode of Once Upon a Time... Man being a thing for so many year, people still refuse to wake up, the nuclear war is really the only thing that can save the world and that the world deserves.

>>2080856
>these too retards
I guess that makes it three.

>>2080857
>Odin instead of Wotann
>not naming the infantry weapons after legendary weapons from the Norse mythology
>Thor's sons are tanks, but Thor is a plane
Eh, looks kino regardless

right-wing France's paths mog Germany so bad, just by sheer amout of options
they're is lucky Frank Franz is so fun

>>2080855
>Himmles actually turns into the Indiana Jones villain

>>2080864
Makes sense since France got an entire post launch update dedicated to it, hopefully Germany's far right content gets an overhaul in the future.

>>2080819
>if the current levels of Western involvement are maintained. If the Western levels decrease, which has been signaled by statesmen in the United States and even a few members of the alliance in Europe, then the odds stack even more in Moscow's favour.
I have already said I don't agree with the specifics of the lend-lease to Ukraine. Too slow, too little, too many restrictions.
>Eastern Europe would not give the Russians a million options to infiltrate the countries without ordering tanks over the border?
Living under foreign slavic rule from Moscow is within living memory of Eastern Europe. I think Slavs can learn. You can teach a fish tricks. Slavs are inferior to us, but they are smarter than fish.
>They would have a much harder time if they weren't even in Slovakia because NATO kept them protected.
Of course, direct war with Germany would be harder for Russia to deal with. It would also be costly in the lives of people that are worth something.
>>2080856
Woah! Globalists acknowledged that certain breeds of humans are inferior? Man that's going to make my time at the booths so much easier.

Playing TFR Germany Ultra Liberal, and I just lost EW1. I'm stuck on which path to take--Schwab or Fehlinger. Which is more fun/kino?

>>2080875
Gunther for gameplay and memes (you can fight both china and russia at the same time) Schwab for story and a harder time fighting the 2EW

>>2080863
I was wondering if I should have went with Wotann for maximum larp but Odin just sounds better to me. I went with plane Thor as I ran with 'lightning in the sky' type theme though originally both Odin and Thor were going to be tanks. Magni for heavy tank and Modi for artillery felt right. Tyr seemed like it suited the strategic bomber, cant really explain why but my Aryan warrior spirit told me. I honestly forgot you could name weapons and not just vehicles.

>>2080869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBVwv4MsEwQ

>>2080886
>>2080857
>>2080855
Funny good luck.

>>2080833
>>2080855
>>2080886
What mod is this?

>>2080886
>Christianity forbids ethnic cleansing
What?

>>2080899
Rise of Radicalism

>>2080928
Big klan thinkin

>>2080928
Moonman, Moonman, can't you see?

Since I can't play KX, and KR doesn't seem to have the KKK, I will now play your mod.

>>2080886
>support KKK
It is funny, because irl, KKK hated the Nazis and wanted to have nothing to do with them

>>2080951
They might see each other as allies of convenience against a greater evil.

>>2080958
Or maybe it's a shitty low effort mod made by an edgy 14 year old chudtard. Just maybe...

>two retards with hoi4 brainrot are arguing about current day geopolitics
Sometimes when I feel down I'm thinking about "people" like this and it makes me feel better, just how many dunning-kruger retards are there?

>>2080960
That doesn't sound likely.

>>2080960
You seriously cannot believe the KKK would accept arms from Germany if a US civil war occurred? That is your breaking point here? If I start posting the screenshots from the communist factions would you call the devs trannies?

>>2080968
No it's the collection of everything I saw from the screenshots posted here. Everything there is retarded and low effort to the point where arguing about KKK sounds extremely silly since this mod doesn't deserve this much attention and should be discarded as garbage

>>2080928
Looks fun, I'll try it.

>>2080963
Same. There is no punishment worse than living their lives and it makes me feel better about my own.

>>2080973
You're right, RoR should remove all wars and add minigames to resolve nothing.

>>2080973
I LOVE REALISM!!!!

>>2080976
>>2080978
>YOU DON'T LIKE EATING SHIT MADE BY 14 YEAR OLDS?? TNOTRANNY DETECTED REEEEEE

>>2080960
leftists make the same KKK -> SS connection though. Wolfenstein literally has KKK clowns acting like they are part of the crew.

>>2081000
And in doing so, they reveal their ignorance and how little their opinion matters.

Where's Sminem in TFR, is he fighting back against the Bogbros and World Government?

>Liberalism is when humanity is enslaved just to eat bugs and live in pods
Do TFRtards really?

>>2080999
You're obviously either a TNO tranny, Nicola or both.

>>2081018
>Having Schwab do what he has said he'd do is haram
Once more realism ends where a devnigger's ideology begins.

>>2081029
NTA, but making people eat bugs and live in pods "or else" sounds like the most authoritarian of things, and not liberalism at all.
Unless TFR uses ideologies like the people themselves do?

any plans to add Phase 2 of the Schwab route?
the final teaser after you tame human nature has me itching for more content

>>2081038
It should be mentioned that the ultraglobalist eatzebugs government is an authoritarian democracy in-game. The Davos System Klaus creates later on falls under despotism.

>>2081057
I view it as being auth democracy at the start to show him forming an oligarchic coalition with other corporate leaders before dropping the mask completely and purging them after defeating russia as they aren't needed for support anymore.

>>2081038
>I'm sorry, but having a country that claims to be socialist be an autocratic shithole where the leader rules like a King sounds like the very antithesis of their espoused ideology
Most liberal governments are just normal liberals too. Schwab and Caligula are exceptions to the rule, so I think it's fine.

>RoR
Rumao

>>2081047
In the old discord they said that after a long time of getting all countries to the 2030s in content they would work on more interactions between Europe-Asia-America for an eventual ww3.
This could have been completely thrown out from czar and his friends being gone or could just be made in a more limited way like how gunther can go to war with china.

test

>>2081085
So only /a/, well that's good. Now to make my post relevant to this board, we got any idea what the next update for TFR is gonna look like?

>>2081063
Honestly I think liberal/social democracies really shine in TFR with all the insane bullshit going on. People calling it a nazi mod or whatever the fuck just don't understand what it feels like to win as Japan.

>>2081029
Or maybe I just don't like low effort garbage that looks like it belongs to 2015. Unironically Nicola was right when he said that it's impossible to discuss these things because retards will always deflect to TNO as if you have to choose and you can't hate on both

>>2081088
From teasers next update seems to be either libertarian russia or reformist (formally liberal) china.
Also what were you testing
>>2081090
It was fun to play and that's all that matters to me tbf

>>2081099
>From teasers next update seems to be either libertarian russia or reformist (formally liberal) china.
Cool, been wondering when we'd get libertarian Russia. Definitely been looking forward to it, looks cool from the teaser.
>Also what were you testing
Janny on /a/ put me in the time out corner for telling xer to do xer job. Was testing to see if it was just a board ban or site wide ban. Fucking janitors on this website are actually useless I swear.

>>2081089
These people usually just don't even play the mod. Victorious 1EW Europe, Japan and some American factions paint centrist democracy in a really positive light especially compared to the horrors that often surround them.

>>2081090
>Nicola was right
Hi Nicola! Just letting you know that this thing you call low effort garbage is better than anything you'll ever make.

>>2081088
I dunno, but the 1.1 toozer has me hyped

>>2081120
God all of these seem like so much fun.

>>2081120
Yeah I can't wait for 1.1 to drop, shame and odd though that all of these blurbs feature songs lyrics yet BLA doesn't.

>>2081083
Thing is, you would need to do a lot of work in order for game to not become and absolute fighting in Siberia tier slog. Balkanized Russia, India and China are easy enough, depending on who you lost as you would be switched to a certain warlord kind of like France.
But then what do you do about victorious Russia and China with their gorillion puppets? You could always have them break away and give them some internal issues with a resurgent America.
Communists and the Fascists could get a similar crisis with the alliance collapsing and having to deal with occupied Russia, with worst case scenario ending up as old TNO Moskowien.
Super EU would be a real problem to deal.
Japan and US should be more or less fine.

Anyone in the Unification Wars discord know if the mod is actually getting any motion? It's crazy to think how many years have passed and there's still basically no complete-ish 40K mod for this game.

>>2080461
is that human Vriska hijacking the drone

>>2081120
Praying for a kill all crackers path for BLA like alaska in KX
>>2081132
From how they did gunthers war with China and the 3ew I think they're going to mainly start adding any conflicts outside of the roaded ones to be "post content" with only a few events and a scripted peace deal.

>>2081137
The devving doesn't look dead but it just seems to be him endlessly adding more warlords to a constantly reworked map.

>>2080857
>>2080855
>>2080928
>>2080956
hey rise of radicalism anon
>Der Stahlhelm implements Monarcho-Nazism
>Douglas MacArthur's comeback of the century, saves democracy
I've done these, any other paths you'd recommend?

>>2081160
Can you tl;dr the premise of the mod to me? Looks fun.

>>2081160
Is that fucking Savinkov as a German general?

>>2081109
>testing to see if it was just a board ban or site wide ban
If the ban says "you've banned from [board]", you can't post in that board. If the ban says "you've banned from all boards", it's a site-wide ban.

>>2081113
>this thing you call low effort garbage is better than anything you'll ever make.
And, unlike KX, it's actually playable.

>>2081181
it starts in 1922
WW1 is much worse than in our timeline, extremist ideologies on both the right and left are also a lot more popular
France starts off as a dictatorship after almost losing the war, Germany, Italy, the Ottomans and Russia collapse into civil war and warlordism and the US under the unpopular president Rockefeller who only managed to cling to power after assassinating Teddy Roosevelt is on the brink of a second civil war
mod doesn't take itself too seriously

>>2081208
that's actually Józef Dowbor-Muśnicki, but you can get plenty of other Polish generals including Piłsudski
basically after the Soviets won the battle of the Warsaw many poles took refuge in Silesia and set up their own little Polish Republic in Exile
not sure if other factions get the option, but the Freikorps can just ask them nicely to join you and resist communism and they can actually say yes
so yeah, after a wild turn of events Piłsudski is now the PRUSSIAN IMPERIUM's bravest soldier

Since the new TFR update, has the Taiwan War gotten harder for China? Would like some help

>>2081270
Sounds like a saner Red Flood. I'm game, gonna try it out. Thanks.

>>2081160
Germano-Baltic White Army has some cool stuff, I enjoyed the Klan but a lot of their focuses lack descriptions however if you enjoy fighting in that area of the US it was very fun encircling Rockefeller feds in the Appalachians. Italy is a good Hell-in-a-Cell and whilst I haven't played it yet there is some stuff in China with the Manchus.

>>2081273
Slightly. The US 7th fleet joins Japan's alliance.
They're buffing PDTO every update. The biggest problem is two big PDTO countriys, Japan/India, need updates but no one is signing up to dev, especially India.

What do you guys think about the TFR redux submod?

>>2081334
>india
Gee I wonder why. Japan is surprising though.

I wonder what interesting things could be done with India, especially because they don't join the Taiwan war so have extra like 10 years of Nothing Ever Happens.

>>2081423
>I wonder what interesting things could be done with India
Dealing with Pakis.

>>2080357
idk but they should've just used some dumb corpo or nwo inspired art like picrel

>Psuedes trying to start a mod war between KX and TFR because a singular creator expressed personal opinions

Nicola is a known hothead in the KX server along with being an autistic Pole who's greatest contribution to KX beyond graphics is really the Polish meme mode shit. He's fairly low on the totem pole of devs for KX and isn't on the level as like the Biden guy, guneric or Todd Howard.
Conflict begging is retarded and anyone who does so needs to off themselves

>>2081518
No one except Nicola is trying to start a conflict. It's mostly just people laughing at his shit stirring. If you look at the replies here and in the last thread people still like KX and shit on Nicola. Except for the guy dissing KXs performance but that's just par for the course.
>Muh personal opinions
What the fuck did he think would happen when he said he'd ban everyone defending TFR? Hardly just a guy "expressing his views". The dumb vodkanigger wanted a war between the communities but ended up just getting clowned on.

Can't we all just drop discord/reddit shittery and be frens?

>>2081589
We can laugh at schizophrenic faggots and still be friends.

>>2081506
I like the pics they used, but I am surprised they didn't use that one. If they ever give that path some more events they definitely need to use that one in one of the events.

How the fuck do you guys play late game? It's 1943 and the lag makes it unplayable. This is on a ryzen 9600X.

>>2081595
Love TFR and KX, still think Nicola is a massive faggot

>>2081657
That might explain it

>>2081657
Type into console debug smooth (it gets faster when it's off) that added 20% fps for me. It will disable achievements tho.

>>2081666
Nah I think my CPU temp making it throttle. I might need to check the fan. Idle temps have always been a little on the high side for me. It's also 30C in my apartment right now.

>>2081670
name 3

>>2081670
To be fair, what else would happen to France? Maybe a military coup but that is really only one step away from fascism, atleast functionally.

>>2081670
What do you think would happen? If they lost the French would only become more insane.

>>2081670
>Alt history mod where a country turns out differently because of a major event going the exact opposite way

>>2081270
>Teddy dies in this one
>TNO has the John F in chat Kennedy cocktease
Could ONE of these mods have a route where a kino president gets to do something

>>2081709
A commie takeover in France almost happened OTL let alone in althis where things don't go well for France, that anon is just being retarded.

>>2081745
I think he's just complaining about it being an overused trope, rather than the realism of it. Yeah, it makes sense, but when you see the same shit happen across multiple mods it kinda gets tiring.

Or it would, if it wasn't just Kaiserreich, PB and Red Flood that did it, and those have vastly different ways for France to go insane.

>>2081334
>no one is signing up to dev, especially India.
Saaars.....

>>2081670
>alt history mod where Napoleon won
>alt history mod where everyone turns schizo fascist communist etc.
>alt history mod where US, Russia or Germany has a civil war
>alt history mod where China is balkanized
>alt history mod where Russia is not communist
>alt history mod where nothing happened in south america

If the different USSR paths ever get unique 2EW victory super events it'd be cool if they used this for the Technocratic path superevent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oWqXudgWJc&list=RD3oWqXudgWJc&start_radio=1&ab_channel=EnnioMorricone-Topic

>>2081787
>alt history mod
>where China is balkanized
alt history?

>>2081787
>alt history mod where nothing happened in south america
That's every mod. Hell, that's vanilla HoI4. And, unfortunately, RL.

>>2081787
The only time South America was interesting was in the XIX century.

>>2081787
>>2081807
>>2081809
Pax brit seems to be doing interesting stuff with South America

>>2081838
Tell me more

>>2081807
>And, unfortunately, RL.
People who say this are illiterates. Just Pinochet dropping commies from helicopters is plenty of happenings. And there is way more.

>>2081838
Pax Britannica is shit overall. And every update thus far wasted everything potentially interesting about the setting.

>>2081854
Russia was great, idk what you're talking about.

>>2079813
why cant you go one post without mentioning TNO

>>2081854
are the peace deals still broken
>>2081841
picrel

>>2081884
But that's just window dressing. None of that is playable.

>>2081861
Russia was escpecially incredibly shit, it is just modern liberal bullshit. Completely wasting all the potential of Russian Cosmicism and Proletkultism and Mysticism.
>>2081884
>Sociogenetic Republic
What the fuck does that even mean? It is such crappy name. The entire Pax Britannica suffers from being made by soulless liberals.

Just give me a cool airships and steampunk setting, that is what I always wanted from Pax Britannica, is that so much to ask for? AAAAAAA

>>2081899
>it is just modern liberal bullshit
Oh, so you've never played the mod. Thanks for letting me know so I can ignore your insane rambling.

>>2081899
Their lead partnered with tfr but a PB submodder and a minor dev lost their shit completely and started spamming the discord until the lead reversed it.
Thank god 2wrw and tfr completely purged radlibs from their mods

>>2081854
>>2081899
Nigger.

>>2081912
That's pretty mean 2and2

>>2081906
It is especially because I played the mod that I can say this. To begin with, the mod is called Pax Britannica, yet the Britan is the most cucked nation in the game, and you dont even control an actual Empire, just a shitty anglo saxon alliance that is useless in the actual war.
>>2081908
I could not care less about discord bullshittery. I only judge the actual content in the mod.

>>2081896
content will be added in 2+ weeks.
>>2081899
crashout for no reason

>>2081918
You're able to make an imperial federation under all British paths.
However the retards in the dev team decided to just spend the last half year updating the map for no content minors when they know that every single peace deal in the mod is broken which breaks half the paths and all endgame content

>>2081908
>2WRW radlib purge
I don't think they're entirely out of the woods yet although the worst was definitely averted. The nudevs there were planning to integrate the ODF map and then go full DV with an Africa dework. Thank God the shit got leaked and that most of the realismfags were hounded off the team. The fuck did they even do for the past three years? TNO devs, not even once.

>>2081918
>I could not care less about discord bullshittery
Unfortunately for us, Discord bullshittery bleeds into the mods. So if the leads of a mod just want to jerk off on Discord and talk about politics 24/7, your mods will suck shit through a straw assuming they even update at all.

>>2081925
Every single path is just trash. It is the much wholesome Attlee commies, the evil Politt commiess, the good progressive Tories, the evil Haigh Tories. Getting struck by automation crisis, despite being literally a birthplace of automative revoltuon. And doing nothing interesting with the automation or amalgamates. Hell, they don't even do anything interesting with Vicky and Edward being cyborgs, or with Vicky ruling for 100 years. It just treats everything as average 30s politics, as if the setting wouldn't change these completely.

>>2081932
Check the TNO thread, all the radlibs got banned and sent to their own cuck server while omsk releases in 2 weeks
>>2081941
The junta path was kino when they made the peace deals actually work

>>2081953
>Banned
Most left on their own accord because the team and community revolted against their bullshit. Gopher, despite resigning, still refuses to leave nor will he give up server ownership. A few of his cliquefags like Garry who started the Africa rework are still holding out too.

Just saying it's not as positive as you think it is. These devniggers can still ruin things because they'd rather see the mod collapse than have someone have fun in ways that they don't approve of.

Baidon really pulling the American Wrangel experience. Can't even evac over the lake lmao.

Out of interest, what happens if I don't make it in 3 years?

>>2082017
If you mean that timer iirc it's just a stability hit or something. You're not going to get railroaded into a collapse or anything. That's TNO devnigger behavior.

>>2081932
The guy in most of the screenshots there made the Brezhnev submod, which is the largest Russia content drop in years.

Base TNO wanted to integrate DV as a Africa rework and that mod is terrible. Basically anything other than that would be good.

>>2082177
He's not part of the nudev clique. According to the TNO thread he's just a guy that they got to help research code it in for them. You can disagree with his tastes but he's just a bystander in this. He's still on the team too.
>Anything other than that would be good
The screenshots say that it'd just be a skeleton replacing the actual content so it's definitely a downgrade. Leagues better than DV but that's not a high bar.

>>2082017
You gotta beef up your division count, start training dudes and raising militia. APLA getting stuck fighting Cascadia fucked you over a bit.

>>2082017
You get the negatives that it says on the timer and you get couped by a masked OC (no content yet but you keep old focus tree)

>>2082326
>you get couped by a masked OC
Really? They add that in an update cause I remember failing to finish the 2ACW in time before but nothing happened besides getting hit with debuffs.

>OH NEIN YOU VON'T
>BACK IN ZE POD
>HERE COME ZE BUGS

>>2079158 (OP)
i just played TFR Schwab, this shit is insane, are the devs schizos? i even got a bogdanoff jumpscare

>>2082374
>are the devs schizos?
no, just underaged

>>2082374
>i even got a bogdanoff jumpscare
Proof or gae.

>>2081850
>Just Pinochet dropping commies from helicopters is plenty of happenings.
Bitch please.
>with the remaining 36 being ordered to dig ditches, in which they were subsequently buried up to their necks and eaten alive by red ants over the next few days.

>>2082374
Yeah, it's a really good path. Loved the ending to it as well.
>>2082394
Go play the path.

>>2082398
>eaten alive by red ants over the next few days.
Red ants betrayed the revolution...

>>2082374
It's called having a vivid imagination you big bore.

What Hoi4 mods have the best focus trees for Islamic countries?

>>2082459
Red Flood France and Finland.
It'll make sense, trust me.

>>2079158 (OP)
>Collapsing World

>>2082482
Getting Red Flood alpha release vibes.

>>2082263
I am, blocked by time and equipment mostly.

>>2082328
Doesn't happen, Anon has no idea what he's talking about.

>>2082399
It occured to me that this timeline must be really comfy in Iceland.

Red Flood LatAm skeleton teaser

>>2082587
Yea, but how about releasing France, Spain and Fiume instead.

Me when I throw (Trump declared war on the other breakaways lole)

>>2082602
>who cares about fiji?
>immediately downdooted into oblivion and dogpiled by redditors proclaiming fiji is their favourite country evarz

>>2082602
>There's so buckbroken that they're asking for just a crumb of Fiji

>>2081854
>>2081838
These niggas weren't able to fix peace deal for the past year and the Russia content they hyped for so long is lackluster, dead mod and south america isn't going to be any better

>>2082602
honestly had to look up what was happening in Fiji, I'm sure if the Axis won ww2 the entire fate of the world would depend on that specific Melanesian archipelago nation
>look it up
>first thing I see is pic
and Canadians think they have it bad with indian immigration, geez

>>2082653
It's even worse than that, in the past indians outnumbered fijians but they were able to flip things around with mass remigration

>>2082653
>>2082656
BUILD THE SEA WALL
DEPORT THEM ALL
TOTAL PAJEET DEATH
You're starting to sell me on Fiji content desu.

>>2082653
Tonga is better, they should be the ones getting content
>imagine getting overrun by Indians
>imagine not breaking off from the UK to make your own Monarchy based on a 1000 year old line of native chiefs
lmao Tonga supremacy
TNO content when?

>>2082656
NEVER blackpill.

>you took quite ze tumble there mein freund, you alright?
>eat ze bugs? live in ze pod? catharsis???
>vat are you talking about? come on, get ze stealth bombers ready vi are bombing ze serbians und ze russians!

>>2082668
Even when doing shitty pissant islands no1currs about TNO fucks up and makes it as boring as possible. How can someone have such a massive losing streak?

>>2082731
Do it again, Fehlinger!

>>2082731
Except that eating ze bugs still happens because the economic tree still initiates the Great Reset and Catharsis spirit.

Eating bugs?
That's not very vegan of you.
Add Singer in TFR already.

>>2082743
Literally who?

>>2082748
Utilitarian philosopher who is notable for having written a pro-beastiality text. Also pro-infanticide and pro-suicide.
The funniest part is that most vegans I've seen reject him because he eats eggs and oysters or something.

>>2082328
That OC is from a fucking submod lmao

>>2082738
Except he can't get Catharsis and doesn't get the events about premium suicide packages, eating bugs and Hamburg being demolished for more skyscrapers, his events are shit like him going to fan meetups, rambling about starting a #ExChina and driving around bombed out Eastern Europe and feeling kinda bad about it

>>2082757
You do get the catharsis spirit and great reset spirit. And the localization of focuses is still there. So ze Agenda is still quite clear, and they are using Gunther to as a face to hide behind. It might be slower, but eventually you still get a dystopia nonetheless.

>>2082757
You still have the same economic focus tree and your poverty still keeps getting worse because of it. When you start a war with Russia, you still get that event about soldiers getting their pay docked because of 'inefficient' fighting and the AI drones killing deserters.

He Jiankui is getting axed.

^
Above attached photo

>>2082770
This guy wasn't even a proper path IIRC

>>2082779
I’d rather have a proper path be made for him than be cut, really.

TFRdevs give any indication that 1.1 is dropping this year?

>>2079396
Is CWIC still boring as fucking shit?

when will they add a kanye path in tfr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp11I6dJ9AI

>>2082832
no

>>2082838
Yeah. The most fun I had in this playthrough was the Korean war and messing with Portugal's colonies.

>>2082839
1,1 he will be the potential leader for Confederates

>>2082838
CWIC is one of those mods that always feel close to being fun but every time I start it and try it out there's always something that just gets in the way like something pivotal being completely unfinished or a major not having any generals or the entire world completely ignoring what's supposed to be a huge event.

I think atomwaffen should have a different kind of ending for each path, i feel like the satanists and christians would do something else besides nuking the world, or at least have it be an additional option besides nuking

How are France's paths?

>>2082863
Nah dawg. NSM rework. Calling it.

>>2082883
Not a bad idea but what would it be? Some people suggested adding a bunch of literal supernatural shit but I think that's a bit iffy.

>>2082925
I think actual supernatural stuff would be out of place, i know the satanists or more specifically O9A has a knack for infiltrating groups such as anarchists, maoists and islamists so maybe some global network, for the christians im not so sure actually besides reclaiming the west

In the fire rises are there paths for nations to stay moderate and try to survive the fire storm happening around them.

>>2083073
Kinda. Three of America's factions can just be weird flavours of american politics, and Europe can, at its most normal after they lose the war, have monarchists come into power instead of Hitler 2.

>>2083075
Lame. I'm going to stay away then.

>>2083073
Yeah, but that's fucking gay. Extremism rocks!

>>2082751
>Utilitarian philosopher who is notable for having written a pro-beastiality text
So a shit ton of cavalry buffs then?

>>2083079
Beating the skulls of the infinite savages at the gate, as the last civilized nation on Earth is way cooler. Just infinite invasions of you by whoever the fuck before you white peace them turn them into a generic focus tree and then slap a guarantee on them.

>>2083082
That's basically what Medvedev's Russia after winning the first war is. You're just a kinda corrupt democracy and you're fighting the NWO slavemasters.

>>2083085
>Slavic Nation

>>2083082
>Beating the skulls of the infinite savages at the gate, as the last civilized nation on Earth is way cooler.
Disgustingly gay, the fire is rising. The old world is burning, and the new world is struggling to rise; now is the time of monsters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eaot8iYxL_I&list=RDEaot8iYxL_I&start_radio=1&ab_channel=Alexander

>>2083087
No! The old world will stand. There is nothing cooler than a heroic last stand against overwhelming odds.

>>2083086
Yeah, you said last civilized nation. That's them.

>>2083085
>You're just a kinda corrupt democracy
Think that's only if you go down his hardliner path, you can become various flavors of wholesome chungus reformed democracy depending on the focuses you did before the 1EW. There's also the new liberal path they added in the latest update.

>>2083089
Your filthy breed is barely human, let alone civilized. Like how a pug is technically a dog, you might as well mention the Arabs which your kind loves to lay with as civilized people.

>Are there any moderate paths
>Starts talking about how specific groups are inferior
What does moderate mean to you?

>>2083091
Are you that guy larping as a white guy fighting to defend Evropa? How's life in the favela treating you?

>>2083090
>new liberal path
Oh fr? How do you get it? I haven't done a Ruzzia game in a while.

>>2083088
>There's nothing cooler than nothing ever happening
Neolib/Neocon UOA winning the 2ACW, and moderate Europe winning both European Wars is the most fucking boring outcome imaginable. At least in Asia the PDTO winning the GAW is interesting since China implodes and some crazy shit could come out of it putting itself back together.

>>2083093
...as I recall it my nation isn't in BRICS. You know Brazil, Russia...

>>2083096
So you ARE that guy! Crazy, I thought after getting laughed out of the thread the last time you came here, you'd go play TNO or something.

>>2083094
>How do you get it?
https://imgchest.com/p/pg735rrq34r

>>2083100
Jesus fucking Christ there's so much shit!

>>2083099
I don't understand. For thousands of years man kind has told stories of evil rising over a nation only for a plucky rural hero to lead a rebellion and bring back the old order through struggle. Suddenly that's "nothing ever happens"

Best putinist path, simple as.

>>2083106 (Me)
Oops, wrong pic my bad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1SSeBI6Ql4&list=RD-1SSeBI6Ql4&start_radio=1&ab_channel=TheFireRises

>>2083095
Obama and Dubya returning to save the US from chaos, then jumping into the GAW is the ultimate kino
that and the one time Burt managed to unify, and the first thing he does is pick a fight with Canada he somehow loses instantly and Trudeau just annexed everything

>>2083073
>lose first European War to Soviet Union as France
>civil war + military dictatorship
>join pact of Steel with the Nazis
>second European war
>rape Soviets to death
>let the Gaulist military faction take over
>restore Democratic rule
>make the Vichy Protocol with Britain
>rape the Nazis with King Charles III
>instal democratic nation states all over Europe
zis is ze way

I've been playing HoI4 since release and I remember a time when there was an unspoken but mutual understanding within modders and the community to ignore South America completely (and often even anything south of the Rio Grande) out of a mutual understanding that no one really gives a fuck about it and the content will be shitty and boring. It's unfortunate that that sentiment no longer exists and we now have mod teams dedicating whole updates and years of work to a region no one cares about. It's probably due to the influx of brown Latinx onto the Western Internet in the last few years forcing their irrelevant countries into the spotlight

>>2083161
What mod has ever done South America content in the past couple of years?

Playing Kaiserreich for the first time in like 2 years. Apparently Pelley is gone now? What the fuck? Why?

>>2083184
His content was “old”, but more importantly, “disrasteful, to put it mildly”.

No, I am not kidding. Read the old PR for yourself.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Kaiserreich/comments/182omla/progress_report_141_odds_and_ends/

>>2083190
What the actual fuck? Evil paths are distasteful? That is retarded.
Is KR trying to sanitize their image or something? You're telling me the literal SECOND AMERICAN CIVIL WAR's worst outcome is a syncretic populist? It makes absolutely no sense that in the goddamn 30s you wouldn't have eg a Klan path.

>>2083195
>Is KR trying to sanitize their image or something?

Yes. A few Imperial Germany enjoyers discovers the mod and liked it, and the Nu-devs seethe over it immensely. They (over)compensate for this by making the 3I very strong and nerfing the entente (and to a lesser extent, Germany) into the ground.

>>2083197
That is so fucking stupid holy shit. The reasonable thing, if you're mad about [x group] liking your evil paths and want to do something about it, is to expand that content and showcase just how nightmarish it really is. Or you can just not care and trust that your work stands on its own merits.
It seems like they just refuse to talk about race in KR America at all. Which is moronic. It'd be like whitewashing most of the Russian White generals into not being antisemitic ultra-monarchist Black Hundreds fanatics who wanted to Russify everything up to Chukotka.

>>2083201
>It'd be like whitewashing most of the Russian White generals into not being antisemitic ultra-monarchist Black Hundreds fanatics who wanted to Russify everything up to Chukotka.
They did that too. I don't think a single one of Sternberg's, Diterikhs's, or Semyonov's focuses even mentions Jews.

>>2083201
>Russian White generals into being antisemitic ultra-monarchist Black Hundreds fanatics who wanted to Russify everything up to Chukotka.
Is this what trannies really think?

>>2083184
>>2083190
It's like KR and TNO ARE having an arms race to see who can suck more.

>>2083204
>antisemitic
- Annenkov killed 2000-3000 Jews in Yekaterinburg
- Sternberg ordered every Jew in Mongolia killed who didn't have a letter from him sparing their lives
- Diterikhs was convinced the execution of Nicolas II was a ritual sacrifice
- Semyonov spread the Protocols in Harbin to anyone who wanted them
>ultra-monarchist
This wasn't universally true (Kolchak was ambivalent on the monarchy question for example) but it was true for a lot
- Sternberg held the Tsar's authority was absolute and any constitutionalism or parliamentarianism was tantamount to treason
- Diterikhs saw the Orthodox Church and the Tsar's power as the pillars binding the Russian people together, and himself as a holy crusader against Bolshevism
- Drozdovsky was a monarchist even under the Provisional Government
- Wrangel was a firm monarchist as well
>Black Hundreds fanatics
- Diterikhs thought that Russia should be an Orthodox-only nation
- Sternberg as mentioned above combined absolute monarchism with fervent antisemitism
>who wanted to Russify everything up to Chukotka
- Stolypin was a big fan of Russification of the steppe, and the values of Stolypin were pretty close to the "center" of the White generals' politics
- Annenkov killed Kazakhs and other Central Asian peoples by the village-full, raping and looting as he went

So uh, what exactly do you think is a lie?

>>2083205
Nah, TNO is leagues ahead of KR in sucking. KR has been adding actual content recently after they got out of a long slump and hasn't really regressed despite reworks. TNO is just a former shell of itself, while KR is a competent mod that does some stuff better than KX like China or Russia.

Last few years of content, TNO has added half-baked Brazil and Fiji content. Basically regressing with the amount of content they removed in returned.
Meanwhile KR has finished Germany, Russia, China, New England, Italy, Poland, Ukraine and Sand France. While really only losing Transamur. Can't even say they regressed in meme stuff since they added secret paths like the Baltic Order establishing a German Reich or Bulgarian Yugoslavia.

>>2083209
Nooooo they were heckin' wholesome bois you russophobic judeo-bolshevik!

>>2083209
Monarchistbros... our response?

>>2083212
>>2083213
Oh, I forgot to talk about Semyonov's death houses, Denikin's pogroms, Kolchak's massacres of his own allies, etc.
>Important Note
This is not a general indictment of the White MOVEMENT nor praise of the Reds. The White Movement was a legitimately big-tent group ranging from Right SRs and Mensheviks to the Black Hundreds, and the Bolsheviks were monstrously bloodthirsty too (look up the Tambov Rebellion if you're a lefty, or de-cossackization if you're a right-winger).
I am just sick of morons defending psychopaths because they're "le based"

>>2083209
It's like ayrt doesn't understand that radicals exist and that this is a good thing because all of that sounds like shit I want to play.

>>2083213
"Another W for the Tsar."

>>2083210
True, KR is several times better than TNO. Every time I feel bad about a KR update, I just look at what TNO is doing and it's all better. I just looked at the thread and the latest rework is changing contents in Colombia, likely meant to remove the only fun part of South America. >>2083196
Your post is wrong though, but not in a good way.
>Added Ukraine which is a demo that railroads you into a single outcome, you get nuked if you do too well
>Replaced the finished Britain content with a collab demo, already being reworked
>Spent several years integrating Antarctica, presented it as a huge win
>Added a new map which is picrel
And TNO devniggers have the GALL to wonder why they're hated by the entire HOI4 community, including all submodders/split-offs.

>>2083215
>It's like ayrt doesn't understand that radicals exist and that this is a good thing because all of that sounds like shit I want to play.
Oh absolutely, playing a brutal monster can be fun. I wish Kaiserreich had Annenkov doing his banditry and massacres, for example, or Sternberg creating his Middle Asiatic Buddhist Empire. Radicals make for good gameplay.

>>2083209
1. Someone did something
2. This means whole movement comprising of everyone who didn't want mothers to eat their dead babies is le bad and we should allow bolsheviks to starve people to death
3. We should trust soviet propaganda about everything all the time
Diterikhs is a single person and it isn't enough to list something diterikhs say and say "LOOK EVERY MONARCHIST IS A BABY EATING SCHIZO" like you try to do. Being le heckin antisemtiic shouldn't be the main focus of a hoi4 focus tree because this part isn't that important in a grand scheme of things since it was a commonly held belief and jews didn't do themselves a favor by advocating for communism and executing popes and blowing up churches. This is another attempt at trying to paint people as nazis who wanted to do le holocaust because in your brainrotten communist mind it's all the same.

>>2083214
>Tambov Rebellion
Just looked it up, holy fuck. That's ridiculous, how do MLs defend this one?

>>2083216
>Brutal monster
Who didn't do anything besides liberating and industrializing Mongolia. So monstrous and barbaric!
>>2083214
>Continuing to quote literal soviet war propaganda as facts
If they were as violent as your favorite jew faggot Lenin then maybe they would have won

>>2083218
By spreading lies about white movement and trying to equate the two or claim that whites were somehow worse. This guy is propably a red poop dev and we can see how they depict Russians there.

>>2083218
typically with "muh peasant false consciousness" bullshit
>>2083220
they both killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, i'd say they're pretty comparable

>>2083221
If you think that civilian casualties during war time is equal to millions starving to death and being sent to concentration camps during peace is equable then you're beyond saving.

>>2083222
Also the red terror was literally a state policy enacted by Lenin and no one in the white movement is saying that war crimes were justifies unlike leftists like you who were cheering on Romanov children being murdered

>>2083217
This reads like when commie faggots tell me that you can't criticize their bullshit ideology because Stalin wasn't a real communist (but also he dindu nuffin), didn't follow Marxist orthodoxy anyway (so it doesn't count), and therefore you can only have wholesum 100 commies in every mod.

Victors writing the story and all that but a lot of the accusations of OP are just sensible actions of the time or entirely reasonable beliefs, ie a Jewish band of thugs actually would ritualistically murder the children of the Tsar.

>>2083225
The difference is that ultra-monarchism works in practice and results in prosperous societies (see Qatar, Imperial Iran, Russian Empire, Liechteinstein). Meanwhile all communists societies result in millions of deaths and poverty. It's not reasonable to compare some random officer to fucking Stalin because we don't know what their governance would look like if they were in charge so Red Poop devs take an easy way out and make them a mishmash of hitler and stalin and every bad person you can imagine because they don't like them.

>>2083222
>>2083223
i was talking about the red terror and white terror being roughly equal, but if you want to talk about broader atrocity, sure, we can do that. of course stalin was a horrific tyrant, and of course lenin was too (even if not nearly as bad as stalin). the reds did plenty of awfulness.
however, the hardliner white generals (NOT the white politicians and leaders overall, but the generals) were quite explicit on their plans for russia. it would have been an Orthodox, Autocratic, National russia, with no place for non-slavs, non-christians, or liberals (let alone any of the strains of leftists like the right SRs they were nominally allied with).
now some specific points
>no one in the white movement is saying that war crimes were justifies
did you just miss all the white generals bragging about their war crimes like annenkov cheerfully discussing trampling kyrygz kids with his horse? or the USA general william graves discussing semyonov's men burning villages and torturing people by the thousands?
like bro criticizing the white generals is not praising red terror. two things can both be bad
>leftists like you who were cheering on Romanov children being murdered
1) im not a leftist, i would probably have been a kadet
2) i don't support anyone's kids being murdered because that's fucked up
>>2083227
>The difference is that ultra-monarchism works in practice
bro the empire was extremely dysfunctional until stolypin's reforms, and he moved it towards a constitutional, western monarchy because he knew it could not survive as the absolutist basket case it was. and after he died it went right back to being dysfunctional.

>>2083227
>The difference is that ultra-monarchism works in practice and results in prosperous societies (see Qatar, Imperial Iran, Russian Empire, Liechteinstein).

>>2083218
Most of them don't know about it and those who do use the same nonsense they use about Kronstadt: "reactionary propaganda brainwashed the people and we had to go save them by killing them."

>>2083227
I haven't played red flood's russia but if the descriptions in >>2083209 are even close to the mark then they do sound like pretty shit people too.

>>2083161
Never have been a thing. Kaiserreich had content for south anerica since the release and then flashed it out in 2018 with El Condor update. And there were always plenty mods to give SA focus trees

>>2083228
>i was talking about the red terror and white terror being roughly equal
Except it wasn't. Red terror was embedded into the state ideology, Lenin issued a decree on Red Terror and people were waving flags to celebrate the terror. There was no world in which marxism leninism could be imposed without terror. It's goal was to murder entire groups of people (popes/aristocrats) for the specific purpose and it goes without saying that they murdered a LOT more people than whites.
White terror happened because whites were trying to root out partisans and terrorists or because some generals were misbehaving which is inevitable in any large scale conflict. There was n't a decree on white terror and whites weren't boasting about it and criminals were trialed and punished.
>it would have been an Orthodox, Autocratic, National russia
So just the 1917 Russia. Luckily it was already existing and it wasn't a comically cursed land where people were dying in millions from starvation and all jews and non-slavs were sent to gulags.
>did you just miss all the white generals bragging about their war crimes like annenkov cheerfully discussing trampling kyrygz kids with his horse?
So the only person who thought it was cool was the guy who did it? Nice. That makes sense.
>or the USA general william graves discussing semyonov's men burning villages and torturing people by the thousands?
Where's the proof that it was Semyonov who ordered it or if it was true? Americans were famously pro soviet and spread a lot of lies about whites. Roosevelt was a huge fanboy of Stalin. I don't know if it happened or not but you're using it to paint a narrative that's clearly false as I already explained why.
>like bro criticizing the white generals is not praising red terror
It actually is since you're diverting attention and make red terror seem less extraordinary and cruel than it really was.
>1) im not a leftist, i would probably have been a kadet
So a leftist.

>>2083239
In what fucking reality are Kadets (mix of constitutional monarchists and liberal democrats) leftists? Do you even listen to yourself?

>>2083228
>2) i don't support anyone's kids being murdered because that's fucked up
You try to discredit the movement and people which fought to save them and millions of other people for some reason.
>bro the empire was extremely dysfunctional until stolypin's reforms
It was rapidly industrializing and had the highest economic growth in Europe.
>and he moved it towards a constitutional, western monarchy
He didn't do that you fucking moron. He did economic reforms and you literally said that he was le hecking ebil right wing chud who russified poor kazakhs.

>>2083241
I suggest you read where the right/left distinction comes from. Liberals ARE the leftists by definition.

>>2083243
>I suggest you read where the right/left distinction comes from. Liberals ARE the leftists by definition.
Using this logic:
Socialist, Liberals and Fascists are leftists, while Monarchies, Theocracies and Aristocratic/Feudal societies are right wing. But no one uses the French revolution and Enlightenment era as a benchmark for what left/right wing is, politics is entirely within the context of the left wing of the Enlightenment era.
Enlightenment era right wing isn't something people even think about. Very few people want to return to pre-nation state ideas where the concept of a country is the property of an individual, organization or class and people are just subjects who are gracicously allowed to living on their property. Even fascists oppose this since they believe in nation states being made up and ran by citizens who have rights guaranteed by the nation. A diehard ultranationalist is by definition a leftwing if you use the initial leftwing/rightwing scale.

Can we go back to shitting on TNO and shilling other mods?

>>2083259
>Socialist, Liberals and Fascists are leftists, while Monarchies, Theocracies and Aristocratic/Feudal societies are right wing.
Yes, and?

>>2083269
>fascists are leftists
Why yes, a movement characterized by fervent nationalist rethoric, idealization of the glorious past, rejection of liberal values and economy and embracememt of futurist tendencies, is leftist.
We trully have reached idiocracy levels of stupidity

>>2083197
>They (over)compensate for this by making the 3I very strong and nerfing the entente (and to a lesser extent, Germany) into the ground.
This is blatantly exaggerated, the 3I is badly in need for a rework and their content is legacy tier. Most of the times they end up getting curbstomped by germany within the first few years of WW2.
It's sad that you can't have a genuine discussion about KR in this thread without a few schizo spergs constantly bringing up shit that was removed YEARS ago, undeserved comparisons with TNO and complaining about outdated lore.
The devs are total fags though, still the mod is overhated here.

OH MY GOD NO ONE CARES GO THE FUCK BACK TO /pol/ YOU RETARDED CUNTS STOP DERAILING THE THREAD WITH YOUR MENTAL ILLNESS COMPETITION

If you're going to sperg about this shit at least do it in the context of an actual game or mod you worthless sacks of shit.

>>2083291
nayrt but
>complaining about things they replaced years ago
It's only worthwhile to bring up in the context that what replaced it was often worse. There's a reason why a lot of people prefer KX.
>Undeserved comparisons with TNO
Their recent reworks have copied old TNO contents outright though. Card mini game to fix a crisis, election slogans taken from the US in TNO and more definitely shows where their heads were back when work began. But I also agree that it's a bit unfair and overhated. If anything KR tries to learn positive lessons from TNO while also delivering a good balance with actual content. ymmv on whether they succeed or not but a lot of the TNO comparisons are more surface level than anything else, things that look more damning in screenshots.

>>2083289
>fervent nationalist rethoric
French republicans were the first nationalists and nationalism is a specifically alternative to the multicultural empires of the old. Therefore it's specifically an Enlightenment thing which is a starting point for leftism
>idealization of the glorious past
What does that even mean if you hate the political structure and everything about the past like fascists did? Soviets idealised glorious past during WW2 by having historical persons in propaganda posters. Nazis did too while persecuting actual monarchists and traditionalists
>rejection of liberal economy
So are socialists now right wing because they're anticapitalists? What the fuck
>embracememt of futurist tendencies, is leftist
How is futurism NOT leftists? It's literally modernist brainrot built upon rejecting the past and embracing ugliness
>We trully have reached idiocracy levels of stupidity
Yea we did.

>>2083298
Go read a book, that is all I can recommend you, dumbass.

>>2083209
Is this meant to be a BAD thing?

>>2083217
>>2083219
What compels someone to worship a century dead monarchy

>>2083239
>1917 russia
Every general mentioned here wanted a return to the pre 1905 revolution and completely abolish parliament, with some wanting a return to serfdom

>>2083301
I've actually read books which is why I was able to btfo you
>>2083328
>some wanting a return to serfdom
Source? Unlike you I've actually read books and know that far-right monarchists (slavophiles) always opposed serfdom

>>2083209
>- Semyonov spread the Protocols in Harbin to anyone who wanted them
How is this in any way an antisemitic or reprehensible action?

>>2083292
What do you mean, anon? /vst/ is a politics board. /vst/ has always been a politics board.
Actually, don't answer. Several agents have already been dispatched to your general location. In the meantime, reflect on yourself and your wrongthink.

Kalterkrieg update!!!

>>2079158 (OP)
For me it's the pony mod

>>2079165
>they're finally working on nations in the equestrian continent
holy shit finally
I hate how much attention they put into the OC donut steel continents to the east, while equestria and crystal empire had mission trees and events that were 10 years old

>>2079207
>mental illness levels of anger and hatred
>>2079434
>turns out to be a leftoid
lmao shocking

>>2083386
I mean, they have been for a while, After Kirins it was bears, and last update was Yaks and Celestial Resistance

Any mods where I can play as Großitalien?
The italian republic is my favorite nation to play in kaiserreich, you start small and weak, take out the reds, reunify the country and then take your irredentist clay from france, austria, croatia and libya. I'm looking for other mods where you can achieve musso's dream and have fun doing so.

>>2083209
But I don't see anything bad about this?

New Kalterkrieg toozer.
After all those months of watching people in the kaiserreich reddit complaining that nobody in their germany cares that they let mittelafrika implode without doing anything, the KRG devs have added an event that adds a tiny temporary stab hit that gets lower each month.
What a tone-deaf dev team.

>>2083404
Holy ESL text.

>>2083404
>>2083376
Kalterkrieg flopped. It's a free product with no budget, but cmon, flop it's the correct term.
KRG has no fandom, nobody is doing shitty memes of KRG's events (most memes posted in the KRG reddit were pre-release lmao), nobody is drawing fanart of KRG's leaders, nobody is making KRG Superevent Compilations or whatever, it just exists.

>>2083073
Japan can stick with the LDP throughout the entire game and defeat communism in Asia

>The team has dwindled in numbers and activity
lol

>>2083443
>They renamed the Union State and the Pacific states
Faggots.

>>2083443
Surprised they haven't just thrown in the towel.

>>2081670
Is there even one? Kaiserreich's France is syndie.

>>2083376
>Our scientists invented new forms of nothing ever happening
>In the year of our Lord 2025, we're still doing TNOisms
lmao

>>2083388
Many such cases.
Still have no idea how the fuck he's a KX dev when he's basically just a TNO dev realismfag that hates fun.

>>2083443
Maybe if they did literally anything besides "nothing ever happens" this would change. Just giving you this advice for free, devniggers.

>>2083452
He's just a reductive, baiting faggot desu. KR/KX is syndie, RF is schizo-accelerationist. Many other mods have different tropes for France. Really, it's just a forced meme. And honestly, France going left/right-wing radial after a WW1 loss is entirely within the real of possibility, so why bitch about it?

>>2083452
Red Flood, Accelerationism (Escandron) is fascist ideology

>>2083376
>>2083404
>>2083443
I can't believe it's been almost a year since it dropped. Nothing truly never happens

>>2083397
Caesarreich if it comes out.

KaiserWorld > Kalterkrieg

>>2083467
But what if my fetish is nothing ever happening? Then what, HUH?

>>2083467
>double negative
Things indeed do happen, people are just impatient.

>>2083480
Go play TNO then

Does anyone have the edit of this meme where its kamala? It was on the old TFR discord

when italy in TFR?

>>2083512
I know exactly what you're talking about, but no I don't have it. The old server getting wiped was like the Library of Alexandria burning down.

>>2083512
>>2083514

I got you niggas

>>2083513
Soon plus one week.

>>2083209
>B-But white movement bad!!!

Are we gonna ignore how the soviets drove Russian society to the ground?

I mean have you seen modern Russia?

>>2083534
Thanks senpai

>>2083376
I've never played Kalterkrieg
what's the gameplay like? any fun nations/focus tree paths you'd recommend?

>>2083289
>is leftist.
They are by the French revolution and enlightenment standards since they aren't actual reactionaries and still desire change. But again its pointless to use the original left/right wing scale since its a pre-WW1 relic. Just being nationalist by itself puts you on the left btw, theres a reason why republican coalitions in reactionary countries like in Qing China, pre-WW1, were made up of Liberals, Socialists and future fascists since they all opposed the reactionary monarchy.

>>2083589
>they aren't actual reactionaries and still desire change
Except they are reactionaries. That is where you show your political illiteracy. Even futurism, a strand of fascism, as defined by Marinetti, was fundamentally reactionary in nature.

>>2083598
Again, by enlightenment era standards they are. Leftist revisionism of calling everything they don't like reactionary and non-Marxists socialist as fake leftists is just modern day politics. This isn't a political literacy question, is a historical literacy one you retard.

Fuck off you mentally ill retards, no one cares about your personal politics.

>>2083601
>This isn't a political literacy question, is a historical literacy
It is both, because you are applying a 1785 concepts to 1900s and onward, when the political landscape was widely different. The conception you are talking about was strictly reffereing to the revolutionary struggle when it was people vs the old order. That was not even a thing by 1800s, because Napoleon completely shattered that dynamic.

>>2083607
>talking about history in game about history is a mental illness

>>2083610
Yes, it's absolutely mental illness once you make it a back and forth about communism that's utterly derailed from the game itself and simply devolves into esotericism about whether or now 19th century communism is mentally ill compared to 20th century monarchism for a trillion posts.

Okay now I'm 99% sure that this is a red poop dev. Everything from pointlessly mentioning futurism to defending communism and slandering Russians and losing internet arguments checks out.

>>2083615
You know at first I thought it was just mental illness but you're making a good point about RF. They should put their schizophrenia to good use like conjuring schizo routes, not evil like debating healthy people about dogshit branches of communism.

>>2083613
We are not talking about communism, learn to read, retard-kun.

>>2083613
These people are literally making hoi4 mods. By studying their brain you can understand why their mods suck. You simply lack media literacy to understand that this is the most on-topic thing ever

>>2083607
The political leanings of a dead 100yr old ideology/group/person and where they fit in modern day politics is surely relevant.

>>2083616
They're too prideful to do that. Every path needs to be a lecture, have a deep meaning and a message. Silly goofy schizo paths are not something where you can show off your knowledge of futurism and political debating unless it's done in really bad faith

>>2083615
Do Red Flood devs have something against Russians?

>>2083574
>Gameplay
Unless you play as Germany or Canada you won't see any military conflict.
>Fun nations
Play as either of the two superpowers with the 3WK option activated.

>>2083624
They should take a cue out of TFR. Make your schizo bullshit fun and people will like it. Don't be a Nicola that studies esoteric desert tribes or liberal democracies for 5000 years. No one will care and you'll just seethe when the realization hits you like a freight train.

>>2080461
damn, eating ze bugs makes you that buff?

>>2083473
I haven't heard that name in ages, I'm surprised they are still somewhat alive.
By the way, I worded my question badly. I'm looking for mods where you can bring italy to greatness, ideally turning them into a global power. It does not need to start the game already powerful.

this motherfucker literally wants to turn TFR into kaiserreich

Link because>>2083665 was a lazy nigger

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1ilznw9/the_fire_rises_a_welldeveloped_mod_made_in/

>>2083625
I mean red poop devs admitted on this site that Russia was written by a diehard ukrainian nationalist so go figure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSWzYsJIZZ8 Music for Tag X in TFR

>>2083668
>Awful third party ideas from start to finish
Niiggercola moment?

Is Road to 56 good?

>>2083236
>there were always plenty mods to give SA focus trees
Such as?

>>2083673
That was before the rework, the OG content for the eastern Europe was done by hardliner Ukrainian nationalist. Since then the entire region was reworked.

>>2083628
>you won't see any military conflict.
but it's a war game.
what's even the point of the mod? would you also play a call of duty mod where you can't shoot, or a cities skylines mod where you can't build?

>>2083673
>>2083624
I don't there is any russian path that says russians are bad outside of the neo mongol one

I understand I am a retard for even asking this but is the prototype pack good? I am not asking if it is worth it because clearly not but do the models look good, are there many of them etc. Does it give the scifi German airtech from
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI0eVqxrARE
I'm mainly thinking of getting it just to give myself more options for stuff and maybe mod compatibility.

>>2083688
This is the shit they listen to in the Siege AWD bunkers after nuking the world.

>>2083571
>Have you seen how the Soviets drove Russia into the ground
...as I recall Russia lost the world war it fought in, and the USSR won the world war it fought in.

>>2083386
...but Equestria is fun, don't fix what ain't broke?

>>2083791
>>2083796
Russian or just regular retarded?

What is the best path for Fascist Russia in TFR? Tsarist could be interesting but are the others developed well? Also will the 2ew change much if I am Tsarist vs Fascist? As in will the nations I occupy be monarchist vs fascist or is it all military governors?

Questions about Pax Britannica:

1. What Biomass do?
2. What is the point of gas and bioweapon? t even works?
3. How to win as a Prussia?

>>2083665
if someone can't tell atomwaffen is evil without an event where members drill baby skulls, they are retarded

>>2079165
>Harmonic Crystal Empire path reworked

>>2083835
The Tsarist ones are my favorite but I think they're all good, only ones I wouldn't recommend playing right now are sadly the Theocracy and the Russian Syncrantism paths since they didn't work right for me.

>>2083869
Which Tsar is best?

>>2083870
I liked Nicholas III the most.

>>2083870
Good morning tsaars

>>2083876
Kek

>>2083709
>Is Road to 56 good?
No, its for people who don't own or "own" any of the DLCs.

>>2083791
>...as I recall Russia lost the world war it fought in
Last I checked the Entente won and Russia refused to separately peace out.

Which runs better, KX or TFR?

>>2083885
TFR by a long shot

>>2083688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKTjHCVoA3I

>>2083688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJmBWh847TM

You've seen Germany wins WW2 scenarios. You've seen Germany loses WW2 scenarios. You've seen Germany wins WW1 scenarios. You've seen Germany loses WW1 scenarios.

Now... what if Germany didn't win or lose WW2? Welcome to Valkyrie, set in the 1960s.

>>2083942
>what if Germany didn't win or lose WW2? Welcome to Valkyrie, set in the 1960s.
So what, they like continued to conquer Europe completely unopposed?

>>2083943
No, peace after Hitler gets deposed with current war borders.

>>2083942
What the fuck does that mean?
>>2083944
But the Allies didn't want to allow any form of conditional surrender, how did this happen?

>>2083942
>what if Germany didn't win or lose WW2?
So what did happen? The war is still going, and everyone has been on Scraping The Barrel for close to a decade now?

>>2083944
>Hitler is deposed
And the US, Allies and Soviets just sign an armistice with a country that is still most likely led by Nazis?

>>2083947
By allowing peace, because Hitler is gone and Treckow is in charge.

>>2083949
A lot of people think that if Deutschland and Nippon didn't alpha strike the USSR and USA they never would have joined the war, which is really dumb if they have thought about it for more than a second.
Pearl Harbor was a mistake, but not because if they didn't do Pearl Harbor the USA wouldn't have joined the war, and Barbarossa was just the correct decision.

>>2083957
Asia isn't implemented yet. Right now there lore is that it never went to war with China and there's a cold war between Japan and China. But that's subject to change.

>>2083958
Even without Japan the whole thing is wack.

>>2083958
>never went to war with China
>cold war with China
This just sounds lame, so Japan fought the USA and won or got a truce all the while the main target (and reason for going to war with the USA) was left alone? Or nothing at all happened in Asia? The Europe situation (which is ridiculous) aside this just seems like a pointless mod. If you are a developer then good luck, I won't do you the disservice of saying the mod should be changed to fit my whims but I think you will find it challenging to find firm ground for your world.

>>2083942
Why is France split?

>>2083974
Vichy and Free France?

>>2083979
>>2083974
Why the hell would the Allies accept this?

>>2083942
Suprised that in the 4 billion different ww2 alt history mods no one has done anything for Strasser/Rohm taking control of germany

>>2083958
> is that it never went to war with China
How? what's the POD? so the mukden incident probably didnt happen? Might be funny if weren't for Mao and Chiang reconciling the country might be still stuck in that same civil war

>>2083942
So based on this: WW2 ends in 1942 with no Sealion or Barbarossa, something like that? I can see that happening if Churchill isn't being a stick in the m-

>>2083944
>>2083950
If pre-Barbarossa: Why on earth is Hitler deposed and replaced with someone far more moderate at the peak of his success and why does everyone just go along with it?
If post-Barbarossa: How does anyone in the Allies go along with it if it's a direct reference to the real plot to kill Hitler?

I don't want to go full realismfag on you but these things require some real leaps in logic. I'd have an easier time buying the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact working and Hitler just being talked into being a bit more pragmatic in this timeline long enough for the invasion window to close and even that one's a big stretch. It's hard enough to believe that there wasn't a Winter War and that all other M-T landgrabs from the Soviet side were just peaceful occasions that everyone went along with. This scenario seems to assume a few too many instances of "oh everyone's just OK with this somehow".
Also just saying: Germany keeping its 1940 gains is still a win, just not a wildly exaggerated MItHC win.

I don't want to come off as being too negative. It might be workable and what follows might be interesting, but you shouldn't have your lore hinge on so many hoops being jumped through.

>>2083958
>PoD is that anon did a 1936 start where Japan and Germany don't do any of their big war focuses and had the game run for 25 years
C'mon, spice it up a little.

>not even a week since thread creation
>already over bump limit

>>2084051
Luv HOI4 modding, simple as.

>>2083979
>>2083981
It looks more like German occupied France and an Independent Vichy France that reunited with Free France.

>>2084051
That's hardly our fastest. During the Czar meltdowns we hit them in a day. TNO also hit theirs in a day or so that one time TNO's head janny argued with them about the realism of his proposals and got made fun of by everyone.

>>2084051
Ja, und?

>>2084051
Hoi4 is sadly pdox's best game.

>>2084166
Nothing in HoI4 scratches the same itch for me that MEIOU does. No, neither Black Ice nor World Ablaze are at all equivalent.

>>2084053
WeedMemes.com

>>2084162
Based Schwab getting us over the bump limit in style.

>>2084184
MEIOU 3.0 is garbage.

>>2084184
Kinda wish it was less laggy. I did an Angevin Empire run and it was real fun but the lag and month ticks were so annoying that that was the only run I've done.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/s/vlUmn6T1aX
TNO is officially announcing its already much-hated USA rework tomorrow, making the deletion of the NPP and some of the last remaining shreds of liked content known to the last remaining Redditors that haven't had the entire thing spoiled already.

Please head to the TNO thread and grab as many of the leaks as you can and share it with your friends ahead of the announcement: >>2075267
qrd: made by a bunch of card-carrying Democratic Party activists that portrays all Republicans as psychos bent on destroying the earth and all liberals as the only force that can stand up to their evil schemes. So about as subtle and nuanced as you'd expect from nu-TNO. At least the Nixon dictatorship has the chance to be based by accident.

>>2084162
>>2084081
Apologies if I sounded rude. I was just very impressed, considering /vst/ is a very slow board.

>>2084301
You weren't rude. People are just saying that we've had faster threads in the past.