Thread 2196249

Europa Universalis is the perfect skeleton to allow for an epic fantasy mod
>you can play as a Human Kingdom, an Orcish Horde, a single Lich Lord in his tower summoning an Undead Army
>but because EUV also allows you to play as "organizations" with no land, you could also play as a secretive Order of Illuminati-like Warlocks, who have to petition Human Kingdoms for permission to build their Wizard Towers
>you can have Orcs dynamically migrate to provinces where there is low control and not enough "Adventurers", who are their own POP type - you could have an entire system where these Orcs cause bad events, build their own buildings and eventually slaughter the population and join or create their own dynamic Orc Horde tags (they also don't "spawn" from nowhere, they have to migrate there from provinces, which already have Orcs)
>coming back to the Illuminati, since EUV has a dynamic system where the Byzantines can recruit Varangians from Swedish POPs in their country, you can just use that system to allow you to recruit powerful units from these secret organizations
>you should also have hundreds of different laws to sponsor different guilds like an adventurer guild, who cause (mostly) positive events from you, which are the only way to free your provinces from really powerful monsters like Dragons for example

I am honestly more excited about the possibility EUV presents than the vanilla game itself. The game has literally every single system you would need to make this happen. You could absolutely play as Demon Cultists trying to get sponsored by real countries, creating secret bases all over the place and eventually open a portal to Hell to get a Demon Army and become a real country (while also keeping your cult abilities)

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>>2196249 (OP)
I get the boner of potential. This is how I felt what I started getting into Civ3 mods. It’s too bad there’s a hard limit with that one when it comes to introducing brand new mechanics, but there are creative ways to get around that depending on what you want.

eu5 allows you to play landless? How will that work?

>>2196249 (OP)
You'll get a updated version of Abbenar and probably some Warcraft/Elder Scrolls/Warhammer/Lord of the Ring mods.

Will it have demon women obsessed with slobbering on cocks and swallowing cum?

>>2196249 (OP)
Who is this chick in your op image?

>>2196770
Not OP but I had this image in my folder, dunno the name

>>2196770
>>2196780
Your Cum Won’t Last
https://youtu.be/hbRLMpMbQLA?si=PyBWspYFyXcyZmKF

>>2196770
>>2196780
Also makes sure to check
https://youtu.be/gteBsfwRHoE?si=3vwR_18QPw9AliRC

>>2196780
>>2196797
The OG faces got censored. r34 paheal still has the uncensored video

How would a dragon realistically respond to the mass adoption of black powder weaponry? Are they just screwed?

>>2196622
Kind of depends on the exact type of "landless nation"
Generally you can construct buildings in other nations territories like with banks and trade companies but I think Navy and Army based countries, like pirates and hordes, can own locations but they are dependent on their ships/ troops respectively and fall apart if those get destroyed.

>>2196846
I hope pirates are more fun in EU V, while fun, they became a bit stale in IV. The new trade system looks like it'll be better for piracy and plundering booty.

>>2196841
Ball munitions don't even penetrate thick cloth. A dragon has nothing to fear until someone invents rifling and armor-penetrating munitions.
But realistically, the most dangerous thing for a dragon would be another dragon that also has underlings with guns that can kill his underlings who don't have guns.

>>2196880
>Ball munitions don't even penetrate thick cloth
The fuck are you talking?

>>2196887
Projectiles shot by early firearms could be defeated by sufficient clothing/armor made of cloth, whether because they lost enough force before reaching the skin or didn't penetrate the armor at all. They were ball-shaped, often irregularly so, and didn't fly that fast. Compare to modern bullets that fly spinning out of a rifled barrel with a pointed tip. Needless to say they're not doing anything against a dragon's hide if they had trouble getting through regular old cow leather.

>>2196899
>Projectiles shot by early firearms could be defeated by sufficient clothing/armor made of cloth
No, that is just plain wrong, this was never the case unless you count 9th century chinese fireworks as "firearms"

>>2196622
You do that by playing as "buildings", which allows you to have your own population to do things with.

I don't know what >>2196846 is talking about though. I watched dozens of EUV videos from the influencers and I never saw anyone talk about playable armies/navies, but it seems like something that's possible. If it works like I think it does, you could have a bunch of uncolonized Land with Orc POPs and they periodically spawn new Orc Hordes. This would make sure there would always be more Orcs, until the very endgame when the player can sink money into colonizing that land. You could do a similar thing with other monsters.

>>2196956
That's what the dev diaries are for
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-talks-26-21st-of-august-2024.1700025/
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-talks-80-10th-of-september-2025.1858519/

>>2196959
Ah yes, I didn't doubt it, anon!
I wonder what's the difference between an extraterritorial country and a Society of POPs is. Like what is that mechanic even used for? Especially if you can just "repossess" them.

>>2196712
If we got even a shit warhammer fantasy mod I would be fucking creaming

>>2196249 (OP)
A mod like this will never happen. Just play AoW4.

>>2196841
Stay away from cannons and hope your hide/scales are strong enough to resist small arms fire.

>>2196977
A society of pops is meant to represent primitive collections of tribes that don't really have state structures (each tribe might have some kind of local leader/council and rules, but all the people of that given ethnic group, overall, don't have a government); an extraterritorial country is probably meant to represent very large businesses (say, the VOC or EIC before they actually got land, or maybe representing them as the actual entities, and keeping them separate from the colonies they control - let the colonies be substates of their host country, and the actual corporate entity remains an extraterritorial country, which is probably more accurate to how they ended / got nationalized; they never had to have their land conquered, the government just folded them up) or what have you, and an army based country would be for mercenaries and such (or as Paradox says, steppe armies).

the best imaginative alternate history mods are locked in motey for the time being
it's anbennar for you

>>2197114
Unlikely
Anbennar are making their own game

>>2196980
It could be cool, yeah. With landless factions you could have some really cool Chaos or Empire gameplay.

>>2196841
Ward saves.

Also, most early guns have pathetic range.

>>2196780
>>2196797
>>2196797
>>2196820
>>2196828

>>2197120
can only read this in the voice and vibe of the world's most butthurt nerd
thanks for souring my meal

holding out for Tamriel Universalis 2 for this game

>>2196797
>>2196780
kek

>>2196980
how do you feel about the eu4 warhammer mod?

>>2196911
True, even the early arquebus projectiles carry a significantly greater amount of kinetic energy than a longbow arrow or a crossbow bolt. Only real downside was accuracy, AFAIK. But this didn't really matter in formation warfare, meaning firearms quickly replaced bows and crossbows.

im waiting for a dod mod

>>2196622
>eu5 allows you to play landless? How will that work?
There's army based countries which are like the mongol hordes but there's also building/extraterritorial based countries which are like banking families, holy orders (not currently playable but are in-game), and Japanese clans which don't directly own counties or provinces but instead have estates on other countries land and can spread by building more, they still have their own pops and shit but don't care about borders.

It's pretty cool and I'm looking forward to shit like EU5 Anbennar where you could play as adventurers or evil cultists profiting off the underbelly of other countries.

>>2196249 (OP)
You'll get Equestria Universalis and you'll have to deal with it.

>>2211285
That doesn't even make sense for E5.