Thread 2231625

DAY NINE
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crown power is overrated

Who you playan?

is it good yet?
Not playing until its fixed

feels gamey to offer a privilege to my 6 or 7 tribespeople and get the same full effect of the privilege as someone whose population is 50% tribespeople

>>2231636
They fixed it on November 4th
Trust the plan

>Start stripping mass privileges to deal with court and country
>Peasant revolt covering 95% of the Tsardom's land
>About 17.000 peasants take up arms across the entirety of it.
Well that ended up being a pretty sizeable nothingburger. Having to gun down hordes of angry peasants would've been fun.
The revolt ticked from 0 to 100 pretty quickly though because of all the removed privileges. Maybe the amount of time they have to build up and organize factors in to the strength of the rebellion?

are there scripted characters throughout the game?

any pirate bros has the 1.03 patch? sharing is caring.

>>2231661
nice,
but if i'm at like -80 stab, why shouldn't i just revoke some nobel privleges etc?

>>2231700
are you allowed to do that? i thought that if something cost 150 stab you had to be at +50 first

>>2231661
popular revolts are broken too. mine with Castille was only two counties and 1k troops.

>turn rural shithole into town
>accidentally collapse the local food supply
oh no

a bunch of chinese peasants were mad at me for not converting to confucianism* so i converted to confucianism* and they still revolted about it

>>2231723
>Take your autism on the go so the public will give you even weirder looks

>>2231693
Everyone laugh at the poor Brazilian

>>2231729
>caring what normalfaggots think

>>2231725
your fault for not telling the peasantry to go fuck themselves

>>2231737
i wanted to become huangdi anyways
i couldn't join any sects for some reason though

Will Xorme save eu5? Anyone played eu4 with his stuff?

I feel as though RGOs should not scale off of population.
And food production should not scale off of space, but how much free space or something.
Because this megacity produces more food than the entire Kyoto market.

>>2231723
Your laptop is probably louder than the engine outside

>>2231732
>he bought the game on release

thats an interesting flag

what country has the best flavor?

>>2231693
theres a portable version on rutracker

>>2231791
by the game's own metrics england

>>2231791
Anon likes the taste of sem(i)en

>>2231782
wow another dual color Muslim crescent flag
>tirol
wot

Is the new world still fully colonised by 1700 like in eu4 or is it slower

nobody has played that long yet

very indecisive about which reform to pick, I kinda don't wanna any cost reduction cause money isn't an issue even if I like the bundled bonuses

>this is bugged
>that is bugged
>these are bugged
>those are bugged
>they don't currently work
>wait for next patch
>wait for DLC for fix

>>2231818
Welcome to Paradox games on release

what's the first few years for the Ottomans look like? I thought they started off with a military advantage over Byz. Are you meant to consolidate Anatolia first?

>>2231793
thanks mate

for the love of amaterasu please tell me whats the keyboard key for drilling army

>>2231821
OttomAn borders were romanced in EU4.

>AI can still refuse your peace offers if you don't have enough warscore or are making too many demands despite have yesman enabled
how the hell am i supposed to do test games if the yesman cheat doesn't even work properly?

so what cabinet things I should do at start?

>>2231821
>>2231831
Also Bulgarian nation disintegrated so i think Ottomen didnt even declare war they just claimed the cores themselves.

>>2231818
DLCs are not supposed to fix bugs, they add more

>>2231837
i usually do control in my capital province + stability

>>2231831
so i should be consolidating Anatolia first?

I am also cheating with console but I tell myself I am learning the game and using it to unfuck me as I learn. like somehow being decades behind in army tech and getting raped in a war because i didn't know that stuff was locked behind research i wasn't even close to

>>2231844
in EU5 do what ever you do. They just have free CBs on anatolian minors.

>>2231625 (OP)
imagine discovering this and then you start raping natives living there

Where do I change my rivals?

god I fucking hate naples
>plague in ireland
>naples also gets it for 1 day
-50 prosperity
>plague in mongolia
-50 prosperity
>plague is ravaging norway
-50 prosperity because one guy did cough in naples

>>2231818
small jewish indie company please understand

So... When does the league war start? It's 1650 and nothings happening....

>>2231870
never happened in my game. France had a nobility revolt. The revolt joined the HRE and eventually won, so now I have France in the HRE as the emperor.

>>2231628
If you have below 25% then getting to 25% is probably the most important thing in the game. Beyond 25% it basically doesn't matter though.

>>2231871
>France had a nobility revolt. The revolt joined the HRE and eventually won,

>>2231870
it doesn't lol
enjoy being cockblocked for 150 years if you're in central europe

Is there anyone out there doing the economy fully manually? My instinct is to not automate things, but the economy feels borderline impossible to not at least partially automate. Are we even meant to be doing this completely on our own or was using automation the intention?

Ethiopian regulars, stackwiped
Peasant levies, sent running for their lives
TIME FOR MASS ENSLAVEMENT

why did they nerf Bradenburg so hard?

>release 5 vassals after finally conquering the Pale and dealing with English bullshittery for decades
>random English vassal decides to declare independence against an England that has Castille as an ally
>3 of my guys decide to support them for some reason
>they get instantly steamrolled and England gets free land
awesome cool and fun

>>2231882
because it's not XVII century start

>>2231791
England/France and Byzantium/Ottomans seem to have most flavour

>>2231879
What mechanic lets you enslave on occupation? Is it all non-christians?

>>2231878
I felt the same way about not wanting to automate shit, but now I automate 95% of my trade. I leave some trade capacity manual in case I really need something in my market, but having to micro each trade isn't worth the time investment. I micro the rest of my economy though (buildings, RGOs, etc.)

>>2231833
Hoi4 community would be good if it weren't for russians, eastern europeans, central europeans, and americans/latinos

>>2231878
I think basically everyone automates trade. Even turbo autistic youtubers are automating trade.

>>2231887
>>2231878
As a colonial/trade empire I have loads of trade capacity in over a dozen markets, I can't imagine doing that shit manually. One market, maybe.

>>2231871
>>2231877
Put how will I ensure the protestant league wins as Sweden to get the achievement? I already allied the league leader. what else can I do? NOTHING

>>2231890
Yeah, I'll 100% automate every other market other than my own, but I like having a little more control over my main market.

>>2231723
comfy

>>2231892
The same way it happens in EU4. YOU DECLARE RELIGIOUS LEAGUE WAR ON EMPEROR

>>2231782
>>2231801
>religion is hussite
>has a cresent on the flag

>>2231834
I noticed that too. Even the cheats are broken.

>>2231886
It's mostly Muslims and pagans, mb in Asia as well? There's also some regional techs, everyone in Africa can enslave basically

>>2231897
t. >>2231818

>>2231889
>>2231890
it's very smithian

What mods are you guys looking forward to? I feel like there's a lot modders can do with IOs, situations, etc.

Is it worth feeding land to vassals or should I just release conquered provinces as new vassals?

>>2231904
Anime portraits

should i move my capital to Madrid as Castille?

>>2231911
these look like shit desu

>>2231909
>or should I just release conquered provinces as new vassals?
this one. it means you don't have to use a cabinet slot on integrating, your new vassal will do it for you and have to deal with the initial low control themselves. taking on that newly conquered territory yourself is basically a scam. you're losing money, not gaining money, until you core it

How do i get Towns or Cities?

>>2231911
i want to put them all in a blender

>>2231917
click a location and look for the location tier icon. click it to upgrade

>>2231909
If you have too many vassals then annexing them in the future will be difficult because of the -50 relations penalty, you want to strike a balance.

>>2231914
better than base CK2 models though

i havent manually built a single road but my empire is full on roadworked

thank you based nobles+burgers

universal europa vghh

>>2231923
the -50 relations penalty upon annexation is trivial for all the benefits that a vassal swarm brings

>>2231925
Do they actually build sensible road or just randomly?

>>2231925
Roads are only good if you have Gold or Silver which produce more with if you connect it with roads. They take it to to your capital, then to a harbor and ship it. You can actually private those Gold shipments day one too.

>>2231932
its somewhat sensible
some wasted
as far as i can tell

>>2231934
This is kind of a bad take. Roads are good pretty much mostly everywhere because of the proximity cost reduction.

>>2231934
roads are good everywhere you stupid african nigger

>>2231882
>1337
You're going to have to earn your Prussia

>>2231882
This is before they invented the Protestant work ethic. The technology wasn't there yet

>>2231920
And then watch everybody starve because you didn't stockpile enough food

>>2231882
You're gonna have to earn that happy ending Anon

>>2231625 (OP)
is there a nsfw mod out yet?

>>2231913
trade is 100% automated yes
i build everything manually, including 10000 trade offices

>>2231882
it sucks but I enjoy suffering and a challenge but it will probably never be picked in multiplayer

>>2231913
NTA but I just spammed Overseas Trading Posts + Trade Offices all over and left trade itself automated. This adds trade capacity everywhere, the automated trade rakes in money for you. Eventually you get more naval range to spam more of them, and then you can start colonizing for even more stuff, but I didn't get too far into that yet

When you build foreign buildings, the pops they employ are counted as part of your country. Which is why I have almost 400k pop but only like 200k in Cyprus.

>>2231954
>When you build foreign buildings, the pops they employ are counted as part of your country

wait, what? I thought it worked like Vic 3's foreign investment where you use the other country's pops, and that country pays their wages, but you get the benefits from the building. Is that what you're saying or am i retarded

>>2231632
Why did Johan do this

>>2231632
>>2231958
why did you install this mod

>>2231956
The peasants in the location where you make the building promote to staff your building. But when they do that, they convert to your culture and religion, and get counted as "your" pops. If you mouse over the pop in the province, your flag will be next to them in the tooltip.
So basically you turn the local NEETs into your henchmen and steal pops to become wagies for the company.

You pay the building upkeep, and also reap all the benefits of the building. (trade capacity + trade advantage)

>>2231632
>>2231958
no way some weirdo already made a mod with stuff like this bro wtf

So upgrading from Naples to Two Sicilies doesn't actually do anything, right? It's entirely cosmetic?

Any tips on annexing and integrating quicker? I've been boosting cultural stats but the cap is +50% annexation speed. I need to blob harder.

how do I slave trade? I have plantations and I have slave centers built, but neither the african nor american markets have the trade capacity to trade them

>>2231632
>>2231958
kek wtf

>>2231961
>they convert to your culture and religion
They don't.

>>2231961
>But when they do that, they convert to your culture and religion

hahaha that doesn't seem like its intended but also seems like a pretty decent way to weaken that country

>>2231965
Well damn speak of the devil

>>2231958
Why did the troon do this?

>>2231966
Send the slaves to your home market then export them, if you have the trade range this is the most reliable way to do it.

>>2231958
BASED

>>2231970
How does it work then?

am i allowed to be doing this
>captcha: h0ax0

>>2231977
They just don't convert. If you build trade posts all over England your pie chart will say you're 1% English

>>2231878
I have it mostly automated, but check every few months to manually add trades for goods that are heavily requested on the market

>>2231981
But they do count for your population? Is that a bug? That doesn't really seem right.

>>2231970
They don't? It seemed like they do, where were all the greek orthodoxes coming from then? They didn't move from my homeland, that's for sure. Otherwise the island would be empty by now

They're in other provinces but still in your "country" because that's how the extraterritorial memes work, from my experience it's as if you're stealing other countries' pops.

>>2231971
It's definitely intended. Because if there's already burghers of your culture in the province, you can't build these buildings. Plus they gave banking countries their own made-up cultures, specifically so they can build anywhere.
It doesn't really weaken the host country since they barely employ anyone. And I think you can delete them? But the AI doesn't do that afaik

>>2231984
Yes they do, I don't know if it's intended and if you 'steal' the pops or if they're counted for both countries

at what point do i integrate vassals? never? after i research better roads? i want the ass thetic borders

>>2231632
idk bout to start a new one

>>2231914
I don't know how it is with higher tech roads but early game it's kinda bad
you want to stay in the urbanized zones around valladolid/burgos or move to the guadalquivir valley
Toledo i also okay

is culture convert or religion convert meant to be this slow

30 years to convert 1 median pop province in anatolia.....

Does the latin empire have content? i feel like playing one of the frankokratia countries

>>2231993
Seems pretty reasonable desu

>>2231993
stick increase control on the same province, speeds it up (because control is a huge negative modifier to it)

>>2231993
Culture and religious conversions are way too fast if anything
Taking me no time at all to eliminate g*rman filth from my lands

Hello everyone and welcome to some updates from Paradox Tinto on what we are doing with Europa Universalis V.

So what's happened in the last week since we last talked? First, we released 1.0.2, which contained hundreds of important fixes, and then we released a small update this Monday called 1.0.3, which was primarily fixing some crashes and added the setting where you can maximise tickspeed over fps.

Since last week, the core of the team has been working on the next patch, which is now in the approval QA process and will be released early next week. What does this patch contain? Well, the patch notes are 700 lines at the moment, but the highlights include:

>Pop Demands rework, where wealth impact what type of goods the pops want
>You can now decide how much you want your pops to starve when you don’t produce enough food and don’t want to spend money on buying food.
>Cores will no longer instantly disappear, so should help with the Emperor not getting exclaves around the world.
>Characters will no longer all be cleanshaven.

What are we working on now for the weekly patches for the rest of the year:
>Further AI improvements
>Quality of Life in the UI, like easier ways to upgrade buildings.
>Performance, Stability and Multiplayer Improvements
>Improvements to China and other parts of the world not working as they should.
>Improvements to localisation
>And as much bugfixing as possible..

We are also working on a big free update named 1.1 - ‘Rossbach’ to be released in early February for things that are more risky and take longer time to develop. Our focus there is adding some more content to the german region, new clothes, hats & wigs for the 18th century europeans, new improved UI for army and mercenary recruitment and much more.

Also, for those of you who wonder about the first dlc Fate of the Phoenix, we have now started the process of designing how it will work, basing it a lot on what type of mechanics you as a community have been enjoying.

>>2232003
Concerning that France isn't part of the highlights

>>2232001
Idk, I’ve been settling tribesmen and converting Highlanders to Scots since the game started and they still make up 1/4 of my country (it’s 1435).

>>2232003
>>You can now decide how much you want your pops to starve when you don’t produce enough food and don’t want to spend money on buying food.
Based realism mechanics

Is Kalmar Union Event in the game?

>>2232003
>>Cores will no longer instantly disappear, so should help with the Emperor not getting exclaves around the world.
oh so that's why that happens
makes sense actually

>>2232003
>how much you want your pops to starve
BASED BASED BASED
fuck buying food man I'd rather lose some pop growth than lose money

>>2231882
Systemic game instead of arbitrary buff game

>>2231979
My Keef is really fucking big and I figured I can get it in a union but I'm not getting any claim thrown CB yet.

gee you get TWO insitutions?

>>2232003
Is there anyway to change the way the toy soldiers move on the map so that they don't 'travel' between provinces and instead teleport from 1 to the other so there is no confusion/delay in the province they are in. I had this setting turned on in EU4 and other paradox games have felt floaty or laggy to me when it isn't turned on.

>>2231985
I'm checking my savefile and it looks pretty buggy.
Some of my overseas trading posts have my culture, but most of them don't.
Somehow, I "own" 20k English Burghers in London, despite only having one trade office with 100 max capacity.
You do steal the pops it looks like, if you compare the local population vs the local culture (144k in London, but somehow 120k 100% English).

>>2232018
I think it might be stealing the pops and converting, but then the country can assimilate/convert them back. I checked and I did have a few odd English burghers in my pie chart.

>actually manage to win the italian wars due to RNG allowing me to get naples/verona/milan into my league
>all I get is 20 prestige and some monthly tradition for a few years

>>2232003
>Also, for those of you who wonder about the first dlc Fate of the Phoenix, we have now started the process of designing how it will work, basing it a lot on what type of mechanics you as a community have been enjoying.
Actually wild, you'd think it's already in the works and in the QA stage right now.

>>2232021
I wouldn't have even noticed the wars if not for the bookmark.
I don't think it's ever been this quiet in Italy.

>>2232003
TintoAnon, is that you? Thanks for all the work if you are :3
>Quality of Life in the UI, like easier ways to upgrade buildings.
Perfect, I've been trying to upgrade my paper guilds to workshops and its a pain in the ass desu

My colonies need tin so they can manufacture naval supplies. I can import it but they inevitably need more and more.
Where is the tin in America?

>>2232003
>big free update
>new clothes, hats & wigs for the 18th century europeans
Nice, I want my powdered wigs so badly

>>2232021
That situation is funny because it's realistic, it really does seem like a big deal while you're trying to win, but in the end all you get is a pat on the back and some disloyal allies.

>>2232015
mine have just been sitting in the golden horde despite my best efforts to collapse them

>>2232025
>Where is the tin in America?
Native guides (injun players ITT) told me there's only one tin province in north america and it cucks mesoamericans out of metalworking

>>2232022
It's listed for Q2 2026, plenty of time

how do i get more population??? i wanna be a kingdom :( also how do i spend my gold?

Is there no way to cancel a queued road without waiting for the current construction to finish?

>>2232032
I get that but normally they should at least have an idea of what they're adding.
>ok our first DLC will be Byzantium
>cool, what are we putting in it?
>uhhhh

>>2232033
Use gold to buy trading posts and trade offices, the local wagies become your pops
You could also buy an army and use it to welcome more pops into your wholesome nation of peace

>>2232035
It's because if they say the DLC is already developed, people will sperg out
>WTF they're selling cut content!

>>2232022
>>2232035
I was surprised too, but I think it's probably a good thing. It means they're way more likely to make something players actually want.

>>2231779
I have lots and lots of disposable income and live a very comfortable life.

>>2232030
Is that realistic?
I guess I'm just going to have to figure out how to optimize imports.

>>2232043
You're probably better off shipping in the naval supplies, since they have transport cost of 1 while raw tin is 2

Didn't colonies do that historically? Send all the raw materials back home and import finished goods

>>2232022
Isn’t this a good thing? It means they didn’t hold back features at launch just to make it dlc like some claimed them of doing.

>>2232047
I've been automating all my trade so I didn't even know it worked this way.

>>2232033
Embassies?

>>2232047
>Didn't colonies do that historically?
It is the entire point of mercantilism.

Protips how to win Byzantine war as Serbia in first 10 years?

>>2232043
>Is that realistic?
Apparently yes, the only economically viable deposit of tin in North America is in Alaska
> Tin has not been produced in the United States since 1993, and with the United States not having any active tin reserves the commodity has been deemed a critical strategic metal (Kamilli and others, 2017). As of 2017, the United States maintains a net import reliance as a percentage of apparent consumption of approximately 75 percent for tin, where 25 percent of the apparent consumption is attributed to the recycling of tin (U.S. Geological Survey, 2018).

>In the United States, tin most commonly occurs in the mineral cassiterite. The majority of tin occurrences are located in the state of Alaska, but tin is known to occur in many other locations in the contiguous United States. The cassiterite ore originates from various lode deposit types, including greisens, pegmatites, skarns, and veins, as well as from placers sourced from these systems.

>>2232060
That's crazy, I had no idea we had no reserve of such a common metal. You always hear that the US has an abundance of natural resources, you never expect the one we're missing to be fucking tin.

Apparently it's possible for cabinet members to defect. Something to watch out for if you're employing foreigners.

>>2231991
fuck i did it too early then, oh well i'll persevere now

>>2232058
Yes. Listen to this and let the glory of Srpska guide you.
https://youtu.be/LZTctyDAeWI?si=kgU5qqaiP5woW_2F

>>2232065
Cabinet members are annoying as fuck. It feels like they have a new controversy every 3 months.

It's really amusing to see the major issues/oversights in the game right now and to think that Paradox have had YouTubers playtesting for them for months now, and that the YouTubers also didn't mention any of these issues to us in their videos. What useless playtesters to not notice any of these glaring issues. Just proves how retarded the YouTubers truly are.

hoffnices are dogshit? i got 4 regiments of them and they give me a pathetic 1 bonus roll

i assume i need 20-40 of them to get 5. theyre also taking frontage instead of shooting from the backlines?

>>2231870
in my game the leagues formed and then just sat there, paralyzing the political landscape for the next 150 years but never ever declared ofc.

>>2232073
Isn't their purpose to siege?

>>2232003
It's over, they will never change the base mechanics
>cancel all my trades to make everything cheap

>>2232073
wrong name

>>2232065
>hey bro uh can I get the top job in your country
>yeah I'm actually a traitor haha dont worry I wont betray you
>my name? uh... it's Innocenzo, cause I'm so innocent and not a spy haha

>>2232065
i had a cabinet member walk out on me when i warred with their home country

>>2232073
Well yeah, proper field artillery only started in the 1600s.

>>2232078
no they are frontline units lol

>>2232072
>playtesters
*shills

you should be able to absolutely destroy an estate's power if you beat them in a civil war

How do I engage in piracy? I have the law that allows it but I can't seem to find how to engage in it.

>>2232089
click on a sea tile and hire privateers

>>2232088
nah, they still own you because you need them. if anything the war is just to spite you.

>>2232089
anon, you are able to use the hacker website 4chan
you surpassed the threshold of normal society long ago and are smart enough to google r/piracy

>>2232090
Well now I feel dumb. I thought I could use my navy.

>>2232065
mine randomly disappear
even had one become mayor of some random italian city-state when playing as naples

market access being a flat multiplier on all your buildings is fucking stupid

first strategy for any non-tiny country is build your own market... because otherwise you are sitting there with a 0.5 on your capital town/city

>>2232072
>I got filtered by a game without mana
/gsg/ ain't sending their best

>>2232065
i have it on auto. im so over having to reset them when im in a random 5 year long war and waiting for sieges while making sure the lil AI niggas dont surprise jump me

>>2232088
this is how it works in sticky 3 and i was surprised to see that it was not the case here

ok so should cav and cannons be in reserve?

how tf do i join my vassal on his civil war?

>>2232088
That would make the game very easy.

Think vassal swarming has to be nerfed this feels like there is no challenge. Just conquer as much as you like and give it to some shitter who swears fealty and gives you money. I don't think the calculation of combined vassal strenght + diplomatic capacity is correct.

>>2232088
They do gain a lot of loyalty to represent only the loyalists remaining.

>>2232105
fiefs and vassals (and marches) all have separate collective power calculations from each other group

I really like how I lose 10 prestige by telling a 60 year old man that I don't want him to marry my 19 year old daughter

how do i see the borders of HRE?

privateering is ASS
if you try to privateer any semi-trafficked naval region it ticks to 0% in 2 months, meaning you just spend 200 sailors and 25 opinion to lower enemy maritime presence by 1 point

i also cannot tell whether or not it actually gains me slaves as morocco

>>2232095
There are exceptions.
t. nuked my food supply with one click in Central Italy and came back crawling to Genoa

>NOOO YOU'RE NOT MAKING SUBJECTS
dont care, i like big name and clean border
>NOOO YOU'RE NOT USING THE MAP SETTING THAT CHANGES THE SUBJECT TO YOUR NAME
nah, it's cheating. simple as.
>NOOO THE YOUTUBERINOS SAID YOU SHOUL-
>AN-AND THEY SAID YOU SHOUL-
don't care. im having fun.

>>2232102
theres an intervene button

>>2232112
click on any nation in the hre and find the international organization in their diplo tab

>>2232109
And literally all of mine are Vassals and they are nowhere near revolting. I think it's too easy. Feels like I'm playing a revoked HRE.

>>2232007
"event"
its a dynamic name for any personal union with all 3 of norway, sweden and denmark

>>2232115
well depends if you are dependent on importing food for your provinces, and you die if it isn't at 0.01$

>>2232095
I really want to find a strat to achieve 0 market access anywhere to get stuff done for free

>>2231929
may as well rename the board at this point

>>2232125
Mad?

>>2232125
GROBEU5IUM

>>2232120
And you can just annex a big country
Blow it up into 10 different opm vassals
Enforce religion/culture on all of them
Noone revolts
Then annex or whatever you want

And since integration has a per location cost, it isn't even slower to integration 1000 small vassals

Better get painting, peasant.

>>2232124
It's nice to have your vassals on low market access
Keeps them poor and under control, RGO's still have the same out put

>>2232131
he's going to get replaced by AI in like 500 years so there's no point in paying him

do pops assimilate into my primary culture if i have the location converted to my primary religion? apparently the values cancel each other out so i assume they do? otherwise how the fuck do i remove the kebab from my region if im the wrong value for it

>>2232125
>popular studio releases popular autism simulator
>Prussian pottery forum full of autism lords keep talking about it.
Somehow anon struggles with that.

>>2232134
?
click on the location
it tells you the convert/assimilation rate on the demographic screen
its fucking nothing by default

>Gold village is higher tax base than my capital
I kneel

>Set event message to pause the game
>It does
>Press ok and it makes the game go at full speed again
How the fuck to make it stay paused?

got real oof'd by the coof

>>2232125
A special Paradox board would actually be pretty nice. It would also be funny because it'd cause a huge amount of seething from all the people on /v/ who are fans of "bigger" companies.

Wait you can Go over your Army and Marinecount Limit without playing extra?

>>2232139
many such cases

Morocco bros?

>>2232150
what

>lead the protestant union
>leader of the catholic union forces me out
nani

towns and cities should NOT reduce RGO sizes

RGO sizes should be essentially unlimited too, with soft caps/scaling costs, especially for all the basic essentials

chink tier bughive
jfc

what a game

>>2232118
where??

I speed 5'd until 1400 and timur didn't spawn. Anyone knows the trigger for the event?

>19k slaves from this war
>2/3 of my capital is now slaves
Damn
I wish I didnt get my army stuck in the mountains because of winter, I could get more but I have to peace out now before they siege my stuff

>>2232159
look through the list of diplo stuff
Might be greyed out for whatever reason

>>2232140
press space

>>2232158
Holy order?

are there any hotkeys for pinning the current window to the quick bar? would make setting up what goods I want to track easier

why is my castle construction going up in days?

>>2232155
if anything they should be smaller. no way a city would exist anywhere in europe where 1000 people are making a living farming fruit trees. farmers dont farm in the city in the first place, and 1000 people farming on a single orchard is mental.

Ayo ain't no way

>>2232162
i didnt find it but the war is over now, gotta wait 10 more years to annex that shithole, dont know why the vassals shouldnt just be able to call me to the war

how do I money

>>2232177
for civil wars there might be a 6 month wait until you can intervene
Think i saw that in a game

>>2232176
Bleached

I WOULD RATHER THE FUCKERS DIE INSTEAD OF COSTING ME THIS MUCH FUCKING MONEY

>>2232179
cut spending when you don't need it
produce and sell books

>>2232179
delete your army?
stop max diplo spending when you don't need the diplomats?
what in FUCK are you spending all this building maintenance on

AI cooking

>>2232167
Didnt use to be necessary when events paused the game for you.

>>2232179
Stop throwing it away

>>2232179
lower that fort maintenance and army and maybe diplo

>chilling on Sicily, developan and buildan
>dry-ass Lidl arancini in the oven
yep, it's /comfy/ time

>>2232186
>stop max diplo spending when you don't need the diplomats?
I'm diplo spending for the cap.

fuck my stupid job. i wanna keep playing eu5.

So what's the optimal play with fat and rich New World areas with RGOs like gold and such? Keep it useless but yours with 0 control in the hopes of it ever getting better down the tech tree or just make a colonial nation vassal?

>>2232194
I look like this and do this

>>2232189
It's always worked different between different paradox games

>>2232160
Technically speaking he doesn't "spawn" in at all; he was born in 1336, so he's already around as an infant
He starts off in Barlas, if you want to keep an eye on him; the event for him to break away can fire anywhere from 1360 to 1400 if the Chagatai Khanate or one of their initial subjects owns Samarkand

I finally made it

>>2232198
You're a cute carib woman who fucks like a whore?
L O N D O N

>>2232179
>1442
>15 ducats on diplo
You missed out on 500 building /rgo levels at this point

>>2232193
did you take the +1 diplo cap crown reform?
Some -% crown power ain't the worst thing to take

oh

>>2232143
vst would die

yep i dont think im ever annexing Portugal

>>2232179
why does romania have the tricolor in the 15th century, not very realistic

>>2232201
Did you eat london or something?

>>2232201
>he’s finally a kingdom
I’m proud of you netherlandsbro

>>2232200
I played as the subject that own Samarkand and nothing happened

the DEATH GOD?

>>2232193
do you really to be in a triple defensive league and still have four allies?

>>2232201
took me 500 years because I didn't realise you needed to leave the HRE

>>2232218
Maybe he died prematurely?
or maybe it just didn't fire. it looks like it should be pretty likely to, but it's not guaranteed, strictly speaking

>>2232179
>maxed diplo
>-9 on court despite 97 legitimacy
>low stability but nothing on it
Get the real medieval ruler experience and take a bunch of loans then max out your minting. Pay them back once your currency is nice and inflated.

>>2231661
holy bordergore batman
i hope to see the end-date of this campaign
keep going, anon

>>2232224
paying for stab early just ain't worth it I think

>>2232201
Really wish there were alternate naming schemes for formables like this

Do i build Food places in low control rural areas.

will watching youtube tutorials spoil my fun of the game?

>>2232235
no, in high control rural areas

>>2232235
don't build anything in low control places
release them as vassals :)

>>2232041
you are also a cuck that pays a company to let you playtest their games and mountains of dlc

>>2232182
As Portugal i took fez from morocco and they turned into -50 ducats from buying food.
Fixed it fairly quick by just minting and spamming food RGOs in that market though.

>>2232223
Do you know what this modifier means? As in is it literally like 100/60 chances of spawning it every month

>>2232215
No, just sitting doing my thing in my corner, trying to invent how to gain more population. England suffered enough in this game even without me.

>>2232217
Yeah. Had a satisfying war with luxemburg and decided, why not. Nothing really changed after I left. I was afraid there would be some bullshit modifiers/events. Now they really don't want me back because I'm rich and a king.

Is it possible to disable the country+flag animation that happens whenever you load into the game?

>>2232243
I wish I could do that but I make sub 1 ducat even with full tax on everything cant even afford to have a set of functional buildings at the moment because I keep randomly getting robbed by food prices.

What % of my army should be supply carts?

>>2232235
The most important thing for food isn't control, it's market access.
Control only affects the profit you earn from the sale of goods, market access affects the raw output of goods. I don't know if/how that applies for food though

If you're expanding food RGOs, you want to do it in places close to the market centre of whichever market they're in

>>2232182
keep yappin

>>2232242
Modern life/society is hell and unending cuckoldry. Let anon enjoy the healthiest form of crack available

>>2232253
100
Depends on where you're planning on campaigning and how you play. If you're only fighting border skirmishes and never need more than a month's supply grace, don't bother with any. If you're going into russia, merge the supply carts into your armies as you push deeper into russian territory.

>>2232244
I'd assume a 60% chance a month when valid, but I can't say with absolute certainty

>>2232247
imagine the abhorrent language that would come out of this

>>2232254
market access does nothing for RGO's, only control effects their profit
And you should just be stacking all the +% food modifier, while settling tribesmen since they produce/consume nothing

>>2232259
Ok I didn't see the line about the character being actually spawned in, alive and an adult so I'll restart a game as Barlas and make sure he lives.

>>2232261
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breton_language
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallo_language
take your pick

>need MONEY to make MONEY
>to start making MONEY to make MONEY, you need MONEY
>you can't make said MONEY without forward capital
>no short term strats to transition into long term ones like focusing on rural, everything is part of a single monolithic strat
>... that needs money

wat nou

what do we think guys
i hate that france is taking aragon, will probably have to go to war with them one day

>>2232269
either release burgundy or conquer north italy

>>2232269
now you boil the frog and whatever the fuck the jochid kangdom is

kek

WHERE DO I BUILD DOCKS?

Why is art so fucking useless
This is over a century of spending at 100% cultural budget, running 7-8 artists at a time (because apparently the Max Artists bit is just for show).

>>2232277
happens most games

how do i make a colonial subject

>>2232278
need a town for a wharf
i think other shit is gated behind research

>>2232277
This always happens.

>>2232279
eh it helps with blobbing
>>2232281
it'll give you the choice once the charter is finished

>>2232280
they really gotta make it so u (and the ai) dont have to micromanage ur courtiers marriages, otherwise this will always happen

>>2232285
i didn't get this land from a charter because i just went and beat them up and took the land
dunno if i should make a custom subject there or hold on to it

>>2232288
idk click custom nation and it'll tell you the options, don't think you can make a colony out of it

>>2232288
if you want to colonize or blob there, then some stuff requires you to hold land

>>2232269
damn, bro died the next day

Why is the game the way that it is with naming art?
A guy I know has gotten pieces called shit like "Ode to Man" and other things that could be real poems.
Meanwhile I'm getting shit like "In Praise of Sandcastle" as one of the most renowned literary works of all time

>>2232279
because every tag in the game is splurging 10% of their economic base on this shit, everyone gets the same value regardless of size but the rewards are scaled by total global produced art
in other words, it's a waste of money and will never be useful

>pick Serbia
>conquer 5 Byzantine territories
>become Empire
>become Great Power
l8r lusers

>>2232288
I think custom subjects allow you to make a colonial nation

>>2232294
>In Praise of Sandcastle
Sounds like something the Japanese would make

>>2232299
>>2232290
yup it's a thing

>>2232301
Not a bad guess. Chinese.

>>2232254
Market access only impacts tax base
Even with 0 market access the goods still end up on the market, for free

Time to Re-reconquista Castille. Hehehee...

>>2232305
market access affects all building throughput, just not RGO's

When will we be able to give companies land overseas? I want to see subjects with ridiculous amounts of ducats, the richest companies ever.

how do i open the console?

>>2232313
type ur question into google you mother fucker

>>2232313
add -debug_mode command argument when launching the game, then tilde.

My first vote for DLC is a cultural overhaul. Instead of going straight from one culture to another they should be like, Hellenized Turks, Turkified Greeks, etc. and I don't think peasants, tribesmen, slaves, and illiterates should be able to be assimilated.

>>2232294
Bravo Johan

>>2232321
I have a feeling you guys are messing with the game by this point. I've not seen this happen in my games.

>>2232320
assimilation in general should not happen
They already have a function in game that I haven't tried, the whole forming a new culture thing, thats how "assimilation" should happen, some new broader culture

>>2232320
Maybe it will be in the free update alongside the Byzantium dlc.

Is Ottomans really Very Very Easy as people say?

Having all this simulation and logistics and still basing the game around monthly ticks is so stupid
>still juggling navies around so they can dock up before the 1st after 20 fucking years of games

Lads what's the easiest way of converting a vassal's culture / religion before annexing their ass?

>>2232330
It's not as completely brainless as someone like france, but once you snowball even a tiny bit you become untouchable

>>2232333
right click on them
enforce culture/religion....

>>2232333
You can force them to take on your primary culture and religion via subject interactions. It'll spike their liberty desire, though

arid desert land is considered attractive meaning pops in the sahara and arabia get yuge pop growth buffs to fill out the pop caps so they can work the desert wheat and fruit rgos
meanwhile the only climate thats not attractive is the arctic because fuck norway, you'll never grow real pops

>>2232333
Why would you bother with that though? You get cores on their cores either way.

>>2232337
I'd rather live in desert as well, fuck cold

I'm pretty excited about the modding potential of this game. I feel like IOs and situations give modders a lot to work with.

>>2232294
I have "Aspiring Sandcastle" as a sculpture. and it's the shittiest tier. peak comedy

>>2232334
Do you play as vassal swarm as Ottomen or can they actually integrate places?

>>2232338
Xenophobia

>>2232330
It depends. If you're a new player you will not be able to follow the historical expansion path of the ottoman. You'll get boxed in from both sides eventually.
At the very start you're stronger than all the other beyliks and that makes it easy, but not so much so you can roll into the balkans and hope to faceroll everything.

Post a Polish-Hungarian-Lithuanian-Ruthenian commonwealth
Also can you commit genocide? In vic 2 my favorite thing to do was forcibly migrate my pops places and force them to assimilate. One time I depopulated the entirety of Africa as Portugal and latinized it.

>>2232333
this is how i feel when i leave my phone under my pillow

>>2232337
theres 1.5 billion in africa
5 million in norway
Norway has only 10x'd in population since 1400
Seems reasonable

>>2232327
I think assimilation within a single culture group is fine, Tuscans assimilating Emilians is reasonable enough, however making a hybrid culture for anything outside a culture group would be fun.

>>2232338
cores revert to integrated if you dont accept the local culture

fucking majapahit has 42 heavy ships in 1476

>>2232325
Noble women available for marriage in Netherlands, ordered by age. Notice anything?

>that CB
Its like Im playing EU4...

>>2232351
When? I annexed my Hungarian vassal and the cores are still mine right now.

>>2232354
you can even justify it as an irish tribe against the english

>>2232355
It's here. It's still your "core", but the game calls it integrated and it's not as good ass proper core until you convert it ot make the majority culture accepted.

>>2232179
inshallah, true romans will take over your campaign so no need to worry

>>2232354
All of this for zero antagonism? Something aint working again

>>2232354
yea but now ur stuck playing as a tribal

>>2232235
It doesn't matter, though you get more profit out of the high control areas so you should obviously start from those but once you run out you can safely upgrade RGO's in low control areas too. It's more important to have cheap RGO goods available in your market than to try to nickel and dime about control and then importing them or paying more in buildings. Also based.

>>2232356
That is kind of realistic

>>2232343
ottomans get +25% integration advance by default + a whole bunch of other tag specific buffs as well as access to asian early game inventions
they're probably the most stacked tag in the game, just dont fall for the move capital to constantinople meme

>>2232361
I found it very easy to reform as a monarchy

>>2232358
if it's not a core, it's not a core. an integrated province is not a core

>>2232358
Still says it's a core for me. And I just made them accepted, used to be discriminated.

How do I intentionally get pops from one place to another quickly?

>>2232364
>just dont fall for the move capital to constantinople meme
why not?

>>2232368
In strict game's terms, it's not, but in gameplay lingo gsg people use, it's a core.

how do the devs fix ottobros so they are biiig and stroooonk like they should

I found a secret stRAT
the best way to save money in the very early game is just to not rely on having more than 0 legitimacy
just get rid of the number, remove court cost and when in parliment or when you get events, just choose -legit choices
theres no malus, no extreme, just a few per country events that depend on having over 50 legit but that's it
you save so much money you can spend on your economy
and the bonuses for sub100 legit are really low

>>2232368
It's a half-core just like EU4

>>2232371
You want to move the capital (mostly for larp reasons) but only after you actually have land in the balkans too. If you just take Constantinople then your capital will be off balance with your empire. Once you have Edirne and some areas west and north of that and bits of Greece then it starts to make sense to have it there.

>>2232371
because asia continent lets you get access to +5% research speed, +2.5% estate loyalty, +0.1 prestige and a bunch of other small buffs (14 advances total) and all european ones are culture gated meaning you gain nothing in return but you would lose these

>>2232003
>Improvements to China and other parts of the world not working as they should.
lol they're really going to make it easier to appeal to the chinks leaving bad reviews

>>2232376
You lose like 10 control from bursa when you move to constantinople. You can get it back to 100 easily if you park 5 boats in the sea tile.
Constantinople is a direct upgrade

my multi-island colony is fucking bricked because nobles keep revolting and the colony doesn't have any navy to go suppress it and I can't enter colonial civil wars.

>own all of Ireland
>at least 16 control in all provinces and everything around capital Dublin is 70+
>making 2 ducats a month
The downside of having to automate so much is that I don't know what does what and as a result I don't know why I'm not making money

>>2232381
There's an option to intervene in a subject civil war

>>2232382
You are probably spending all of it but a screen of your finances would inevitably point out the problem in like 2 seconds

>>2232382
16 control is shit
just release vassals

paradox: * takes a massive shit on a plate *
paracuck: MASTERPIECE! JOHANS MAGNUM OPUS! WAITER, WAITER! I'D LIKE THE 49.99$ PISS DLC TOO!

>>2232349
Africa is the 2nd largest continent and had way less people than Europe in 1900.

>>2232360
All the muslims dont give a shit
The only christian around is Alodia and Im their tributary
And look at these modifiers, Im a just a poor shithole after all, you cant blame me

>>2232387
this is what i said when imperator rome came out

>>2232387
KEKYPOOPYROOPYRENNYWINNY!!!

>>2232370
Release minorities and criminals into the area you don't want them in and buy up the vacated property for cheap.

>>2232387
Facts.

Spit on Nobles.

>>2232385
The 10 on navy is the 27 ships I have spread around the island for maritime presence, which I'm assuming is crucial for trade and control as the tooltip tells me so
>>2232386
Like just have the whole island be vassals forever? I want my country name to be big though

>>2232389
>Aggressor is a Ubject and not in control of their own actions
The ol' insanity defense

>>2232389
>4 layers of menus just to access basic information
Great game.

>>2232399
>basic information

Lads I've put in 37 hours. I think the game is good but it's a much slower game than 4 and I think it's easier as well. Expansion almost feels pointless due to it's ease. Getting the itch to just play 4 and enjoy the simplicity. Feelsweirdman.

>>2232387
I actually cant wait for dlc because I don't pay for games.

>>2232364
>just dont fall for the move capital to constantinople meme
jesus, are some you fags rly like this?

at this point just play a generic blob start

>>2232399
game design 4.0

>>2232387
me when I smell Johan's poopy butthole: Finally a good fucking game

>>2231632
Im playing Milan. Although i was thinking of trying the pope out. Do they have any fun mechanics?

>>2232389
I evn get their subjects
lmao
Tribes are busted

>>2231632
>>2231958
trans sisters ...

>>2232401
The ways it is easier is realistic. It is also worth noting that ducats are part of a weird economic simulation in this. When you become super rich, it is supposed to start representing the more matured modern economies where money starts to become infinite and imaginary.

>>2232401
what country did u play and did u look at guides

>colonize one tiny fucking island in the carribean while my population is in the millions
>entire cabinet full of spearchuckers with god tier stats
DEI game. First they add BBC's, a literal race mixing mechanic, and now they force you to fill your cabinet with the natives you conquered (which literally never fucking happened in real life)

>>2231628
A bit. You need to stack it a lot in the early-game but it's nowhere near as important in the mid-game and in fact you should have more privs in the mid-game.

>>2232321
WE WUZ ROMANIANZ N SHIET
DAS RITE!

>>2232418
I like the green lip. It is like how they gave Ainu women black lips even though most people will never see that since they are currently a society of pops.

>>2232412
i wonder how many trans people i unknowingly played games with, this scares me because i hate trans people and hate when they play my games

>>2232418
>allow mbombawe into court
>WTF WHY IS MBOMBAWE IN MY COURT??
lol, fucking retard

>>2232403
>jesus, are some you fags rly like this?
like what

>>2232423
i didnt allow shit you cocksucker.

>>2232422
Imagine how many you interacted with not knowing they would become one (or were one in the case of online interactions). It is terrifying, worse than the whole murderer thing.

>Burghers eat four times as much as peasants
Fat fucking pigs

They added BBC?

>>2232423
How do you block brown from court? I also have this problem >>2232353.

>>2232425
YES YOU DID RETARD, THATS WHY THEY'RE IN YOUR CABINET

>>2232422
if youve played tf2 in the last half decade then youve played with tons of them

>>2232415
Muscovy/Otto/Portugal, didn't really keep any campaign going past 1410. I didn't watch country guides but have watched a lot about mechanics. I hate to say it but I don't feel like I'm getting a response from the game, it's almost feeling like cookie clicker to me. Every game getting to the point I have 1k gold then instantly upgrading RGO in every province and waiting for them to have full employment then doing it again.
Don't get me wrong it is satisfying to get your population and needs up but the game sort of feels pointless to me.

>build livestocks to max
>build farming village to max
+260 food in the entire province
we feasting tonight boys

>>2232429
Japan is full of BBC's. They also - swear to fucking god - added a yasuke-type event/character in japan where you can make a nigger your general.

Woke DEI trash.

>>2232437
SWEET! I LOVE BBC! I want it in my character's WIFE, NOW!
Krillinbro btw.

Guys I'm new and trying to learn. I feel like I hit my limit with what I can get by markets and trade for now. I guess now it all depeneds on control of my areas which is shit despite building roads all over + maritime presence

Also I'm stuck wtih France. I'll never ever loose but I can't win either. My armies not big enough to deal its vassals endless armies. Just one vassal pulled up 20k soldier 4 times by run away/ heal. And I made allince with spain and even aragon but they are so shit they just cost me war points rather then helping

>>2232418
>>2232437
chuds are such snowflakes

>>2232437
bye and thanks for the money

How do you deal with this spawning in all territories upon ruler death?

paradox literally makes games with hardcoded interracial cuckold porn and paraslaves still eat it up. Fascinating.

>>2232435
I think it will pick up when the AI (hopefully) gets better and more agro. Cause you do have a really strong snowball in the game that feels different then 4. And as much as i hate to admit it i do kinda miss the proper mission trees from 4. It just gives you a direction to go when you cant decide what to do.

>>2232437
Please say this isn't real. Even if it'd be cool in another timeline. We don't need to be touching that shit right now.

>>2232444
Haven't played the Inca yet, but according to the Tinto Flavour the idea is to leave them in low control territories and take the legitimacy hit by removing them near your capital.

>>2231911
anime portrait ck2 mod is ai trash
>>2231924
wrong

>>2232418
Bro, there's an event if you manage to take Mansa Musa to Rome before he dies where the Pope first washes then kisses his feet, declares him the "Papal Bull" and then they disappear to a room where he's going to "prep the bull", this is 100% real and not a dream I had

Haiti's a great place to colonize. Just requires a small amount of set up and then vassalize it

>>2232446
Hopefully it does. I think my biggest gripe is how much time irl its taking from me. Feels like a genuine waste of time whereas EU4 has a simplicity when you master it that you can get through campaigns or at least to absolutism fast. Maybe that will come with experience. I hate to admit that I miss the tech and coring gameplay loop of 4. I dont give a fuck about clicking through a massive tech tree, all they've done is spread out modifiers and put them into different boxes there and when it comes to coring I think the pacing is better in 4 (slow at start, exceedingly fast at end).

>>2232451
Catholics are like this

can you build BBC's in your country to increase pop growth?

>>2232453
you can enable a setting in debug mode to make the game ignore hour ticks so it goes fast at speed 5.

also are you not realizing you can just que the research tree? its like civ. you just open it once per age and youre done forever.

>>2232450
>anime portrait ck2 mod is ai trash
not the original one

>The research actually adds +0.20% to the control decay rate instead of decreasing it
Sasuga Johan-coon...

>>2232453
>I think the pacing is better in 4 (slow at start, exceedingly fast at end).
Ive been told it speeds up just as much as you progress.(Id play longer but i keep wanting to start over just to try more countries) The early game is now a lot slower for sure but you're also mostly quitting before the old start date.

>>2232458
Does removing the hour thing mess with the games mechanics at all? That hour timer is one thing i dont get the purpose of adding.

>>2232330
not really. you can easily get boxed in by naples, bulgaria, serbia, mamluks, and the iraq horde, and this happens to the ai ottomans every single game which is why their ai doesnt expand past taking constantinople and the western beyliks

As people have already pointed out, cultural conversion is way too fast in this game. I think there's a better way to do it using the existing mechanics though, using the implementation of cultures in Ireland as a template.
Conversion between cultures that don't share any tags should be almost impossible unless you have every advantage on your side. Instead, when you integrate a province you should get a small number of pops of a hybrid culture between the primary culture and the conquered culture. For example, if I am Aragon and integrate Sardinia at the beginning of the game, some Italo-Catalan pops show up. This new culture has both Italian and Iberian tags, and a higher cultural opinion of Catalan than the original Sardinian culture, so it costs less cultural capacity to accept. Then if I want to core those provinces, I can convert directly to Catalan (very hard and slow) or to Italo-Catalan (easier, but not the primary culture). Then if I absolutely want Catalan pops, I can do another round of conversion later to change the Italo-Catalan culture into true Catalan
With this system, large empires will still need cultural capacity and the cultures in the world will in most cases reflect both the original culture and the conquerer's culture, instead of all the small cultures being genocided out of existence completely.

>>2232448
Tinto flavour?
I mean it sounds like their unique thing is just a pain in the ass with no advantages.

>>2232461
No, it only matters in war and lower speeds will render by the hour anyway. The hour clock is pretty nice for granular movements in war, movement time is calculated down to the hour now.

>>2232396
>forever
not forever, but long enough for them to make more use of the land than you will with like 10 control there

who do I play to get Timur? How much flavor does he have?

>>2232463
yeah the latin nations in greece culture convert the entirety of what they own to neapolitan and catalan and french by 1400

>egypt was the #3 great power and dominating
>all of a sudden it just fucking crashed and lost all it's income and military
so I'm assuming they changed capitals or something because I checked the map and they have zero control in EVERY province except their capital

>>2232461
Sorry I should have been clearer. I think 5's early game is faster than 4's. You can take infinity vassals and AE means nothing. Game feels pointless to me because no roadblocks. If you did the same in EU4 you'd face a coalition and you couldn't hold as many vassals.

>>2232458
I've been queueing research if that's what you mean?

will it run eu5

>>2232472
It will only run Half Life 3

>>2232472
i have one of those in my kitchen
well, it's built into the dishwasher
makes silverware very shiny after steaming

>>2232468
>who do I play to get Timur?
the country of barlas. they have a borjigin in their court, look who his son is, favorite him and save up to give him a good education
>How much flavor does he have?
a lot. you have your own situation, you instantly annex any land you occupy in a war (and then raise the levies there to start snowballing) and get to select one region to make a core and accept the cultures there. its basically a choose your adventure type of thing where you can choose what area of the map to settle on

>>2232470
Lost a big war or black death

venice is bonkers

>>2232475
Is there anything I should do to prep for Timur's rise or just play the economic game?

>>2232464
>Tinto flavour?
The dev diaries focused on flavour of various countries, there was one focused on the Inca.
>I mean it sounds like their unique thing is just a pain in the ass with no advantages.
The levies are on paper a massive advantage, since you aren't getting a professional army until the Europeans arrive. You don't have much crown power in low control teritories anyways so it shouldn't hurt too much to keep them there for a bit of extra levies.

>>2232477
how do you play it? are you forming italy or basically fucking off to have your own empire in the med?

>>2232480
IVenice can form Second Byzantium (Latin Empire) through Events but yeah they are like Holland but on steroids.

What the fuck, Colonial Nations pay only 2.5% of their income? I feel scammed.
Should I be making all the gold provinces into basic vassals instead or does this improve somehow later on with the ages?

>>2232478
your country gets annexed into his (along with your neighbors) in the year 1460 if he is alive and he gets a few thousand gold to start with so besides buying him an education there really isnt much else to do besides speed 5

>>2232477
Pound for pound the greatest state to have ever existed

>>2232483
You're meant to build overseas trading posts in their lands and earn by trading.

>>2232485
You mean 1360 because 1460 would make Timmy one old wannabe conqueror.

How long does it take for a PU to get to the point where you can annex it into your country properly?

Dynamic institutions seem busted. the "could have spawned here" bonus means that india/korea/etc don't have to rely on institution spread from europe but instead just have it develop and spread locally.

If you're having issues with vassals not paying you anything, restart the game. Legit went from 17 vassals giving me a total of 1.32 ducats a month to 14.86 a month
Bravo Johan

>>2232489
i think you can annex at 5 but it takes like 0/1880 so have fun.

>>2232486
Nah that's Switzerland desu senpai

Holy fuck am I glad I moved my capital to andika.
My old capital of Esfahan is at the top right and it had maybe 1/3 of proximity projection that Andika does through canal locks and the flatlands of the fertile crescent.
It's heartbreaking that Quban is a wetlands and not a river tile, but that's my next target for urbanization regardless. I think with the 0.25 natural harbour capacity I should be able to pretty comfortably project control throughout the persian gulf, which I guess makes south the logical next target for expansion, even if historically perisan emperors didn't concern themselves with it.

>>2232487
Yeah, but that's gold RGOs. That's a massive fucking tax base going to waste when they could just be a vassal and pay a fifth of it, not 1/20th. And as far as I can see, the only cost besides losing the trade offices is double the Diplomatic Capacity.
Honestly seems like a better choice, given that the other goods are always crap like game and veggies. Yeah, we have that back in Europe too, thank you very much.

how do i change my subject's name?

>>2232480
you have the means to do both, naval control means you can have a wide spanning empire
>merc up when the war with verona happens and separate peace them for land, they hold half of the state of venice at the start!
>join the popes crusade against one of the turks and he will be kind and give you their land (dont give it to the knights in the event after)
>improve relations with coastal powers past 100 so you can build trade posts on their land
>isolate your cities during the black death

>180 years to annex vassal
Any way to speed things up?

>>2232494
You just have all your money in banks there.

how does naval presence or naval control or whatever work? do i have to have my boats parked on the sea tile or is them being in the port enough?

>>2232504
dont feed land to make big vassals, have lots of small ones
cultural influence speeds it up which is why being cultural hegemon is very good

>>2232039
>Sperg out
That's a completely reasonable criticism though

>>2232499
Arabia as a whole is strangely agrarian, and the entire region has surprisingly high food productivity (consistently ~50%) It's often enough to totally offset the hot arid+desert vegetation debuffs.
The only real downside is that the entire region is basically at pop cap without urbanizing, even with the +20% from traditional economy

How early can you go wreck avok on Asia like Portugal and Holland of old?

how the hell am i supposed to keep up with all the research trees. they are unlocking faster than i keep research. i know i can't research everything but figuring out what to prioritize is hard

>Albanians are nearly extinct
how will I create fuel now

>>2232486
Venice is such a cool city when you study all the innovative shit they had to come up to live in the shitiest terrain ever. Too bad it's decayed these last couple centuries.

>>2232457
That joke was funny 8 threads ago

>>2232517
it wasn't even funny then

>>2232267
>Breton
We have songs in that language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRUYyj20b7M

speaking of BBCs, has anyone actually managed to make a state bank yet? they always say no

>>2232516
I wonder if the Italian government purposely allows it so Venetians will eventually stop viewing themselves as a distinct group.

>>2231806
It's empty outside the carribean and brazil
>>2231808
I did

>>2232517
>>2232518
i hate how paradox games attract zoomer tradcath wignat newfags who dont understand 4chan culture. BBC is 4chan culture.

>>2231871
based nobles restoring imperial authority in west francia

>>2232514
>he doesn't have 60% literacy in the mid 1500s
NGMI

>>2232523
Do they still see themselves as distinct from other Italians?

i shit so much better now that i shaved my butt hair but i feel like thats homo :/

>>2232511
and no fucking lumber RGO's
and no way to increase popcap reasonably

>just realized my estates are brokie and i keep going bankrupt if i go into the negative even once
wtf are these niggers doing

>>2232528
it's 1390 and it's like 10-12% and my research speed is around 1.6

>>2231882
I like that it’s an accurate backwater start. But they really need to fix the events related to getting a Hohenzollern on the throne. I will gladly suffer through the first 300 years (accurate) for such an option

>>2232530
Uhhh.. okay? Mind explaining how thats related to the grand strategy game masterpiece, 3x award winning game Europa Universalis V (2025)?

>>2232532
you'll just auto take a loan from the fuckers or peruzzi instead

i have the biggest bestest army but i cant get a homogeny because i'm not a "great power"
and theres not even an italian name for nizza
extremely disappointing

>>2232535
wrong thread lol

>>2232514
The age discount on old research is pretty massive, so don't worry too much about leaving stuff behind.
I always rush cabinet slots, policy slots and crown power (in that order) and everything else is situational based on what I need.
As long as you have the money, unit upgrades are fairly low priority since you can just pop them when a war starts and immediately hit upgrade. I genuinely don't think there's any way of even telling in the UI what makes each generation of units better than the last, besides the manpower increasing. Even then I don't know if that actually means they have higher combat width density and therefore damage or what.

I will say that if you're on a river, pound lock canals are very good and encourage a playstyle of centralized urbanization which is quite "meta" for land empires.

>>2232536
no, i go bankrupt instantly

>>2232531
Irrigation and building cities on the fruit, IG

NEW THREAD WHEN????

>>2232513
you stupid chudcel, asia and africa are POWERFUL, BRAVE, and EQUAL to europe.

Its totally historical and realistic that 1 single aboriginal warrior could easily defeat 100~ colonial mercenaries armed with muskets!

>>2232532
pop demands are a bit jank right now and they will bankrupt themselves buying luxury goods
you can try to lower prices by flooding the market with fine cloth and books but i think we just have to wait for the next patch which is supposed to be fixing this

>>2232531
Were you doing a caliph run or something?

>>2232506
you have to set them to "patrol the sea" mission

>>2232540
>>2232532
the fuck, are these niggers brokie too???????????????

HOW THE FUCK CAN THE FUCKING ITALIAN BANKERS BE BROKE

England declared war on me during the Cod and Hook wars while the Black Plague is going on. This on top of my economy barely breaking even. Somehow though, my hope remains, I feel like I can pull it off.

>>2232513
With professional armies you can first start making inroads into africa with some difficulty, and with pike and shot you'll have noticable qualitative superiority over asians, massively so for the east indies. I suspect landing in india from overseas would/should be extremely difficult until the age of absolutism

>>2232543
Pop cap should happen on its own from food production, not some arbitrary limit that says "no growth afterwards"

printing press spawned on me but now it doesnt spread from here thanks game

>>2232421
I think societies of pops produce an order of magnitude more characters for some reason

Why do colony flags keep changing?

>>2232531
theres 1 lumber in yemen and another woods province to build sawmills in
should be good enough right

join my game bitches
SL:109775242223583847

>>2232560
Nah.

>>2232558
colonisation is completely buggy and fucked

>>2232560
is this safe . _.

>>2232550
There's an event for Florence where they go bankrupt in the historical option

>>2232463
I installed the mod that nerfs the cabinet action
It helps but the most obvious culprits (Mongolians, Latins counties and Venetian islands) still have around 10% primary culture in some provinces after 50 years
I think I'm just going to disable the cabinet action and see what happens. Also thinking about nerfing or even disabling assimilation for lower classes, no one should give a fuck about what peasants are doing as long as they pay their taxes

>>2232560
Do NOT redeem this code sirs.

>>2232554
It's the limit of the province to sustain productive labour output. Obviously you could theoretically cram more people into the province, but they wouldn't contribute positively to the economy of the game.
That's why urbanizing ups the pop cap - you're creating a productive output and the infrastructure to support a larger population

who do I pick in the Hooks and Cods war?

>>2232560
Just tied to join, instantly started a crypto miner on my pc.
Do not join

>>2232565
theres a gamerule that turns it off completely, which feels bad to do but maybe necessary

>>2232569
i went with cods and it went okay i guess

i have these fuckers dead to rights, to the point if i was fighting them i would lose 80% of my army

anyone wanna guess how much the AI is going to lose in this battle

>>2232568
what a meme
you're telling me if i upgrade locations into cities they find a way to cram hundreds of thousands of peasants into the city who all produce small amounts of food from the land i just paved over?

>>2232574
ok nvm, i was expecting the AI to magically disappear from the fight like last time

so this building doesn't do anything but give power to clergy?

>>2232560
i tried playing stellaris mp a few times, never again am i to play mp in a paradox game
>cant pause, have to sit through 4-8h session straight
>90% of the game mechanics are ignored in favor of a BIGGER ARMY
>anyone with a slight disadvantage or for any other reason just leaves

>>2232576
Makes sense that rgo's shrink, gotta make room for all the gardens and small homesteads for the peasants

>>2232578
It also creates clergy in that province which stimulates some demand. They're not wholly bad.

>>2232578
No, it makes them eat more too. Are you blind?

>>2232561
>>2232563
>>2232567
>>2232579
stop being such niggers and just join already

>>2232579
plus in a shit fuck state eu5 is in its gonna desync ever 15 minutes

>>2232583
no, watch youtubers/streamers and pretend that they are your friends, like normal people

>>2232578
estates sometimes build "estate buildings" which are bad for the country but good for the estate

>>2232572
No, actually the game rule is for the country converting culture/religion, to avoid orthodox ottomans and dumb stuff like that, not for the population conversion/assimilation

Why can't I trade anything in this stupid market? It's the one, single market that's completely dead to me and as far as I can see, I'm not being embargoed by Mali. Is it because it's a province deep inland and surrounded by a bit of Terra Incognita I can't even touch with exploration? That'd be seriously fucking stupid since it effectively makes West African colonies entirely useless as you can't import anything.
Where the hell can you even check your trade range for that matter (not the value, but where you can actually reach from one market to another)

>>2232585
what do you lose by joining my game instead of playing singleplayer

>>2232589
is it in ur trade range

ummm
fuck, now I need to find way to uninflate myself

How do you enslave people? Can I just turn any culture I don't want into slaves? How do I do that?

>>2232593
lower the minting level?

>>2232596
it's already at bottom

>>2232594
build a slave market

>>2232591
Time.

>sudan provinces along the nile
>all desert
>egypt provinces
>all farmland

how does this make sense

>>2232594
this isn't stellaris

>>2232593
Later in the game you get a cabinet action. Other than that there are events and maybe parliament agendas

>>2232591
The ability to pause and speed up at will

>>2232592
It probably is, I guess. I can reach much farther, at least by sheer "centimeter on the map" distance.
On second thought though, the colonies do have some use since the charters sometimes create a new market on completion. The trade offices are worthless garbage though.

>>2232598
there are some laws or privileges to the burgers that decrease it

>>2232593
theres a burger privilege or two for that

>>2232593
>gold and silver cause inflation
oh so that's why i suddenly started gaining tiny amounts of inflation after two centuries of no issues

You think thats big enough to declare war on me. Or do you think with the black death tanking all pops that they wont?

>>2232604
playing while unpaused is less painful than you think

i will join multiplayer after the next patch

This fucking cunt keeps breaking her alliance with me until my opinion of her is below 50% for literally no reason, despite being at like +500 reasons for alliance, and so I can't vassalize her because I have no way of boosting my opinion of her.
Thanks Johan

i have 10k standing army in 1470 as england
is it too much

>>2232609
they will always dec you and they can even join the coalition war after it started
but you shouldnt worry, the ai is regarded, just fight battles and peace out at 50 warscore
>those vassals
what a waste

>>2232605
oh nvm it says "out of range" if it isn't on the list
Click on a good from there and buy it, no?

I joined a civil war of my vassal and I'm stuck, all the provinces are occupied but their nobles still wont surrender

>>2232616
Whats wrong with the vassals?

>>2232242
Do you want me to give you some money so you can play with a clear conscience?

>>2232614
Depends on how rich you are. Armies are pretty expensive. You can put the soldiers to work, though, I just tend to be lazier than that.

>>2232614
armies are expensive but if your net income is still high then it's good to be prepared for your next assfucking by the french

>>2232619
you'll miss out on breeding pops from a temporary special cabinet integration action you get after coring pavia

>>2232623
but i'm the assfucker

so brabant is once again the better nation to form the netherlands isnt it

One xbox hueg colonial nation or a bunch of separate micro-entities?

>>2232625
you should be able to afford it then

>>2232601
Sudanese riverside is objectively shittier. Does it even get flooded like in Egypt?

>>2232624
Which event is that? If anything it would be best to not make Genoa and the lands i got into a vassal? And do you think it would be a good idea to delay the Pavia core to integrate Novara then do Pavia? I was just always told that vassals work better then flat integration so im all ears on different ways to do things.

>>2232625
Show us the culture(location) map

couple questions on my mind. How much liberty desire, opinion and relative stregth do vassals need to start a war for independence? (yes I already know vassals and fiefs and marches dont share relative strength) I want to edge as close to that as possible. It seems perfectly stable even at 15% relative power and 0 loyalty even after culture converting all of them... but I want to know the threshold.

Second, I know towns->cities go on provinces with low value resources, but what else is there to consider about how resource value changes over time? Lead might be worthless early game, am I going to want 13 RGOs on it later? What should I be building to prep the city for success? Granaries, temple, road/canal, trade, cathedral for migration attraction? What else? When do you transition a town to a city?

How do I prioritize farming, forest and market villages for rural? I only see market villages adding at best 0.5 ducats compared to RGOs that are still worth 4-6 ducats, are there invisible benefits besides for the food storage and pop? forest seems worthless. farming seems like it gives good food storage but 4% food production seems shit. Again how much are the pop and recruitable population mods worth?

Finally there's the food menu under building tab, which lists some provinces as having negative food balance. Obviously trade can handle that, but should I be prioritizing e.g. farming villages on these provinces to try to keep them self sufficient? Is there any downside to negative local food balance so long as country as a whole is positive?

>>2231661
I think I'd just quit the game if I had a rebellion of this size, sieging all that would be a pain in the ass.

how do I go republic as the Dutch? Is there an event?

>>2232179
steal more wallets, robmanian

>>2232636
I doubt siberia is full of forts and carpet siege armies would handle it without issue

Please join my multiplayer game will you now :)
SL:109775242226452507

>>2232640
Can't carpet siege something that constantly raises more armies.

>>2232634
this?

I want to bring to your attention to German town named Slop

>take cyprus
>80% of them are french with 1 holdout province thats all greek
wtf

Small brain: being upset that random non-Europeans are claiming hegemonies
Big brain: using the busted hegemony CB to blob all over them
THE EAST INDIA COMPANY MUST GROW

>>2232569
I chose hooks cause my heir is a child and already better than the bitch empress