https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwLbGcUMy6g
@everyone
Hello everyone,
When you have a moment, please take the time to watch the following video from Mouse for a full and in-depth explanation of recent developments:[YouTube] Why I left VShojo (embed)
**
Summary (TLDR):**
VShojo withheld an unspecified sum of money owed to Mouse, and half a million dollars raised during the subathon intended for the Immune Deficiency Foundation. As a result, Mouse has chosen to no longer be affiliated with VShojo.

What this means moving forward:

- Mouse retains full ownership of her IP and all related assets
- Mouse continues to be represented by UTA
- Mouse’s regular streaming schedule will remain unaffected
- Mouse remains on good terms with all VShojo talent
- Ongoing product releases (Birthday merch, Worm Daki, Gfuel collab, Goodsmile figure, MSI collab) are not impacted
- The TwitchCon concert is still happening
- All other upcoming projects and collaborations remain unchanged
- Roxy will continue as Mouse's manager
- The VShojo channel has been closed — alternative options are being reviewed
- A new dedicated merch hub is now live: <https://ironmouse-merch.vercel.app/>
- A new donation link to support the cause is available here: <https://tiltify.com/@ironmouse/ironmouse>

We sincerely appreciate everyone’s patience and continued support during this transition. As always, we ask the community to remain respectful — harassment, witch hunting, or threats directed toward any individuals or entities involved will not be tolerated.

holy shit. it's actually over for vshojo.

>>102468521 (OP)
yeah Vshojo is dead, gg

Well there we go. Ironmouse is now a ligger, and Vshojo has set a new speed record for an agency to fall from grace.

>it's real

This is insane and unexpected

AAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
vkeks not so smug now, are you?

No downsides.

>vshojo owes over half a million to charity
It's so over for them. They will never recover from this. Worst vtuber drama since Sinder.

Vshojo, you where the chosen one
it was said you would help defeat black companies not join them, bring balance to corpo vtubing, not leave it in darkness

>>102468521 (OP)
/lig/ only grows stronger

Holy fuck.

And Ironmouse is the one that comes out and says it outright?

Nijisanji has been dethroned.

mfw Vshojo fell down first instead of Nijisanji lmao

>>102468521 (OP)
>ironlung is mad that they actually donated the money to the charity instead of giving it to her.
really?

>>102468521 (OP)
Why would they do that? Like who would think they'd get away with it? Are they just grabbing fhe cash and leaving the country?

Nijisanji must be built like the fucking Lernaean Hydra for it to have outlasted even Vshojo

>>102469597
meds

>>102469785
Nijisanji has the JP side, it's the EN side that is dying

>>102469597
Reading comprehension sure is hard, isn't it?
They both owe the charity and her, they paid neither.

>>102469785
NijiJP is still strong as fuck, it's just EN that is dead and subsidized by the main branch

I did not think I would live to see Phase Connect become the #2 EN agency, but here we are

Will she be allowed to keep her models?

>vshojo's golden girl is gone
>hololive's golden girl is gone
>nijisanji's golden girl is gone
is this the end of corpos in EN?

>>102469951
brave is #2 and mythic is #3, maybe you and nijisisters can fight over #4 (EN only)

>>102469951
Who are you calling #1 if not Phase?

>>102470108
Hololive EN, by a very large margin?

>>102469597
If you're this ESL why don't you run things through DeepL before commenting on them?

holy shitttttttttttt

Vshojo stole $500,000 from charity. That's scummy as fuck.

>>102470140
The company that forces talents to go to Japan for half the year? With countless Japan exclusive "EN" collabs? One concert a year in EN isn't enough to be #1.

>>102470105
>mythic
They seem to not be a traditional agency though.
Instead of them paying the talent, the talent only gives a portion of directly made sponsorships.

>>102470193
Show me the EN agency doing more EN concerts per year.

>debut
at least gamersupps will force some level of urgency

>>102470193
retarded goalposts

>>102470104
pretty sure hololive will be fine. They got actual good talents in their company.

vshojo is fucked tho. They really fucked up and everyone is leaving.

nijisanji EN has been fucked since they screwed over the purple laughing dragon. Tho their JP branch should be fine.

>>102470210
I'm familiar with their
>erm ackychually we aren't a corpo, pinky promise
bullshit that the vkeks were also saying for years, but here we are.

>>102468521 (OP)
>VShojo withheld an unspecified sum of money owed to Mouse, and half a million dollars raised during the subathon intended for the Immune Deficiency Foundation
What is it about vtuber corpos in particular that consistently turns their upper management into retarded cartoon villains?

>off collab with new tech
Teledildonics, here we come!

>>102470104
Nijien came back with it's latest male wave

>>102470397
the fact that marimari_en can be in mythic and in phase proves it. And that they aren't involved in merch

>>102470104
>>vshojo's golden girl is gone
No lmao, vshojo's gone

So uh, was Sayu right in shitting on Vshojo?

>>102468521 (OP)
Vshojo is.. le black company? but reddit told me they where wholesome chungus 100 unlike those evil japs!!

>>102470487
I'm pretty sure phase doesn't have exclusivity in their contracts, especially considering canadian labor law.

How the hell did they think they could get away with stealing $500,000 from a registered charity?

>>102470702
she fucking wishes she could grift this successfully lmao

>>102470702
Stealing charity money is a new low, so honestly yeah lmao

>don't link to charity to donate directly
>donate directly to Vshojo/Mouse's pockets
>"I-I swear the money will get to the charity"
While its scummy, can't she just do another sleep/react slopathon and do it right?

>>102470702
She specifically had a beef with the talents and Mousey is absolving the talents so, no, Sayu is still just a schizo

>>102468521 (OP)
We're gonna need a bigger /lig/ thread

>comes back
>vshojo fucking dies

>>102470810
Yes but it doesn't change the vshojo stole half a mil from a charity

>>102470702
Well she obviously didn't know about this particular problem, so... sort of?

>>102470409
>MSM in 2024
>Vshojo in 2025
Who's next? Hololive?

>>102470979
>Who's next?
phase inshallah

>>102470104
I, for one, welcome the indie era

>>102469597
I can hear it through your words

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFP3Jc5ztgg

>>102470979
> inb4 phaseconnect

>>102469951
>I did not think I would live to see Phase Connect become the #2 EN agency, but here we are
Winning by doing nothing... and selling coffee
God Damn!

So, Cons: None?

>>102470956
Yeah separate issue
But honestly even I was suspicious of Vshojo with what I know about their talent cuts and lack of revenue streams

>>102470707
I figured something was up when many big names from there suddenly up and left around the same time period all at once.

>>102471050
kill yourself windy
i mean it
end your pathetic life you fat retarded piece of monkey shit

>>102470893
That is legitimately the worst possible timing kek

>SEAMonkies Shilling for Vshojo and havign schizo Delusions already

Zozzle I hate Islanders

>>102471123
nigga I have no idea who that is lmao

Ironmouse not wanting to reveal it all due to her lawyer means they are willing to make a deal with Vshojo over this.
She has more shit to throw at Vshojo if she is willing to make a deal. And it might be big.
What kind of fucked up shit would Ironmouse hold over Vshojo's head to get paid?
My guess is pedo stuff, it's always pedo stuff.

I can only focus on one issue, do I move to this or stick to the Aster files?

>>102471254
I doubt it's anything that interesting.
If they were stealing from her and stealing from a charity then they were undoubtedly stealing from others too, including the taxman.

>>102470104
>vshojo's golden girl is gone
its over
>hololive's golden girl is gone
replaced years ago at this point, zero impact
>nijisanji's golden girl is gone
EN was always irrelevant and JP will be fine

>think it's yet another mouse bait thread
>it's real
>turns out the spergs shitting on mouse were half right, money was being kept, but by vshojo, against her will
All corpos are evil. Just stick to your oshis wherever they go.

>>102471578
was it against her will or was she in on it and is throwing them under the bus to get away with it

>>102471580
her wactor/910 model was the best

>>102471578
>All corpos are evil
look at this retard.

is gunrun involved in this is he actually that evil

>>102468521 (OP)
>VShojo withheld an unspecified sum of money owed to Mouse, and half a million dollars raised during the subathon intended for the Immune Deficiency Foundation. As a result, Mouse has chosen to no longer be affiliated with VShojo.

apologize (to vei, nyanners and silvervale)

>>102470104
Pippa reigns supreme

>>102471578
>All corpos are evi-
good corps ensure that girls cant talk nonstop shit and be obnoxious 24/7
corps are good

so, about this event they will cancel it?

amalee must be sweating bullets having joined vshojo specifically to have them handle merch lol

>To anybody that used Twitch you can email support to demand your sub gift money back if in fact your money towards a charity fund was in FACT not given to Charity. You can report Ironmouse channel for breach of Terms of Service regarding misuse of Charity Funding. This is in for all Ex-HoloFans to demand their money back.

>>102471864
Yeah man the fat fucks named cunnyluvr1488 on twitter will never lose pippa you're right

>>102468521 (OP)
Fucking how did they fumble so hard? Zen leaving was a huge loss, and now Mouse gone is just a complete collapse.
...So do we have to talk about her in /BIG/ now?

>>102468521 (OP)
>Hold no ip business model
Without vc money they would've died a long time ago

>>102471797
he's the ceo, its all him

>>102471019
That song is fire. Don't insult it like that.

>>102471739
Name ONE (1) vtuber corpo that isn't evil

>>102471028
Funny thing is, Phase is the only corpo I know where the talents constantly and unreservedly shit on the CEO. It would be funny if they outlasted everyone else. But if they do, maybe it sort of makes sense -- because the fact that anyone can shit on him might show that he's the least psychopathic CEO...

>>102471477
she's cozy with Hasan, she could've picked up some blackmail tips

>>102471874
Anon we call that slavery

>>102472295
now youre getting it

>>102472217
Glitch Stars

>>102472220
The even funnier part is she could probably afford to buy phase connect herself

>>102468521 (OP)
Sir, a second Doki vs Niji has hit the vtubing sphere.

>>102468521 (OP)
who?

>>102472150
he's gonna go to jail isn't he

>>102471670
I'm betting 100% on the latter in the sense that she just knew about it from the beginning not that she actually saw a cent of whatever they were embezzling. You don't stay in a company that long without hearing whispers and rumors about shit that goes on.

>>102471254
I doubt it's anything this board would find interesting.

Honestly? it's probably something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD-McWZz_pk
TLDR is
>a merch company mismanaged their finances and spent a bunch of money they didn't have, relying on deposits and unpaid payouts to cover operating costs just before checks bounced.
>they didn't have enough cash on hand to pay out everything they owed and were using incoming deposits and sales they weren't entitled to, to cover what they owed in a type of semi-pyramid-scheme where they paid an older customer with a newer customer's money
>eventually it caught up with them when payouts came late, their sales dipped, and they couldn't sustain the model anymore.

It's probably something like that, Vshojo probably already spent the 500k from the charity stream on merch/staff/shit for the CEO/etc and they can't get it back, they were trying to raise 500k from whatever else to pay the money they owed, but they couldn't and then it collapsed from there when Mouse demanded a payout and they said "we don't have it".

>>102468521 (OP)
Vshojo is dead, long live Ironmouse

>>102472399
Not even close, Mouse just killed the org.

So is this why others left before here too, did they know this was coming?

>>102472657
Geega said yes

>>102472657
Geega confirmed this was partially why she left. Anticipating Zen saying the same.

>>102471574
I wouldn't say zero impact, but she was functionally gone for over a year.
>EN was irrelevant
He did specify "end of corpos in EN"
HoloEN will remain the big one.
NijiEN will probably continue with the few stable members they have, but it's dead in the water.
Phase continues to chug along, somehow.
And then there are a bunch of small EN corpos like the Flork one but they're mostly Twitch ones so I don't give a shit.

>>102472362
Yet.

>>102471843
Nyanners left because Vshojo was shorting her (and this was with Nyanners also being their golden girl for a minute). Vei can fly a kite. Silver, she was the one who Vshojo kept fucking over, she deserves the apology most.

>>102472220
>Phase is the only corpo I know where the talents constantly and unreservedly shit on the CEO
>unreservedly
Most of them only shit on him at the surface level for easy jokes and never have the balls to properly call him out on some of the utter shit he pulls

>>102472399
Nah, Niji has drones and fans of the corpo instead of the chuubas.
Vshojo doesn't have that. Even on the numberfag side, ex-vshojos usually keep their subs/viewers since hardly anyone has attachment to the corpo itself.
Basically, vshojo is turbo fucked. I feel bad the NOVA girls, though. Henya and Kson can survive on their own (or with some tardwrangling, depending which one you are thinking about), but the other 4 will struggle the most.

>>102470105
Brave is not an agency

>>102471918
The good news is that Amalee is an established talent and there wasn't much else Vshojo could do for her that she wasn't already doing (beyond merch). Hopefully she'll land on her feet. Can't imagine any other merch storefront would leave a big name like hers dangling.

so how does Zen fit into this?
did he know?

>>102470409
There's a fairly high chance it was some accountancy dumbfuckery rather than them intending to steal.
My rrat with literally 0 reason to believe it:
They had cashflow issues and decided to hold the money for some time to smooth that out, then possibly didn't have enough liquidity to fix their mistake.

>Henya announces a day off
lmao

>>102473122
>and never have the balls to properly call him out on some of the utter shit he pulls
I'm a fairly casual watcher of them, but it seems like the criticism is pretty serious at times and not an act. They'll package it up in a more PR friendly way, but there are definitely issues that the talents talk about that are more than muh funny haha. And I'm not just talking about the merch stuff.

This is big. Can't wait for the ex-vshojo members to post their own dirty laundry about vshojo. If they're willing to steal from a charity and a disabled girl there must be something else.

>>102473148
The flipside is, it's not like Vshojo was doing anything for Haruka or Froot, so in a way they haven't lost anything

>>102473237
They all probably knew, they just left one by one to not leave anyone in the group that they cared about behind to deal with the fallout, everyone else could kick rocks though

>>102468521 (OP)
What do you think her lawyers instructed her to not talk about?
Does Vshojo have an Epstein list?

>>102470409
They're run by rich kids playing businessman with daddy's money and they usually skimp on getting good accounting and money guys
Being run by young retard gamers tends to do that. They don't make good financial decisions. Both Vshojo and Niji were run by daddys money rich kids who spun up a company and had poor management skills outside of a time when the whole vtuber market was shooting up.

>>102470979
By this logic phase would be next since it's another corpo run by a young daddys money kid and not boring suits like hololive

>>102471918
Nah, she's been fine for years. Ama has been around even before live2D was a thing. She might get pissed off on gunrun and most likely is the next on the line to drop the vshojo tag, but that's it.

No wonder it was called University. He grabbed the cash like they take it from students.

>>102473382
You're going to be disappointed, they're not going to say shit because their lawyers are telling them to shut up until their suits with Vshojo are done

>>102473237
>>102473464
kek

Who unironically cares about this

>>102473382
>disabled girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>102473055
The CEO is a personal friend of many talents before making the corpo, so i doubt he'd do anything to fuck over them

Over half of the founding members of Vshojo have left

What is going on. Liggers for the win

>>102473422
Naw, more likely personal evidence of ratfuckery that they can't make public without hurting their case. Nothing so dramatic.

mouseyno$

not sure why people are surprised niji lasted longer than Vshojo. a lot of niji's problems came from the company valuing profitability over anything else, Vshojo exploding because they are so shit at making money

>>102469967
yes

The public leechfest begins

>>102473628
So, math and stats bros.
What are the odds that Froot happened to return just as the company goes into flames?

>>102470409
Because this industry is still young, so retarded cartoon villain shenanigans are bound to happen. It happened with the movie industry (united artists created out of pettiness), the tv industry, streaming (netflix endless list of retarded decisions) and so on. Vtubing is just the next one on that list.

>>102473628
Hime streams like one time every 2 years, Melody only does CB streams, and froot is on perma leave so they're pretty much all gone

>>102472220
The girls on Glitchstars do it too

wonder what henya does
ideally she should marry me and i will impregnate her and also get the visa

So incoming mass Exodus from Vshojo?

>>102473845
Why would my wife marry you?

>>102473626
You sweet summer child...

>>102473375
yeah I'm pretty sure they've openly talked about how horrible he was during the first year

>>102473817
>froot is on perma leave so they're pretty much all gone
She came back at the literal worst possible time

>>102468521 (OP)
Parrot! Parrot! Wake up you retard and turn on the drama channel! Any channel!

>>102473841
Duelogs is a beta male he enjoys it

what happened between nux and vshojo

Does VShojo survive this?
It's pretty damning.

>>102473862
yeah but who's going to step out the door first?

>>102473799
So is Henya out too then?

>>102468521 (OP)
How's kson going to defend them going forward? What about Froot?

>>102473845
>impregnate
>henya
She vomited out her ovaries, anon.

>>102473970
Henya is on indefinite hiatus starting now, not telling if she's going to dip or if she just wants to avoid uncomfortable questions for a few days

>>102473973
Very Happy

>>102468521 (OP)
When will you learn? You don't fuck with the Mouse.

>>102473592
You are cognitively disabled.

>>102473799
This shit is so stupid and I'm glad my oshis don't participate

>>102468521 (OP)
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but this is literally singlehandedly the end of Vshojo, is it not?
Like in 1 fell swoop, it goes from okay to fucking dead, no?

There's no way they can recover from this, right? Surely not.

>>102473806
This was probably planned
>zen left
>a few days later froot shows up
>mouse leaving right now
>froot will probably also drop too
>henya aware and replying >>102473799
Shit's fucked for vshojo while the talents leave without any repercussion at all. If anything it's complete opposite of the usual scenario where black corpos go all out to fuck with their talents even after they left, while the corpo hardly suffers any consequence at all.

>>102474017
life uh, finds a way

>>102468521 (OP)
[GOOD NEWS] IRONMOUSE HAS LEFT VSHOJO

>>102473952
Nux was an annoying retarded faggot as usual but Vshojo did lie about not knowing he was going to release his video.

>>102474073
she's happy that she and henya are the top rats on this sinking ship

>>102473180
brave is a holding company of a lot of vtuber corpos

>>102474160
I don't like henya suffering from this, she's a cutie in collabs.

>>102470104
>nijisanji's golden girl is gone
to be fair, Niji EN's golden gooses are men

>>102474113
That's because Vshojo clearly has little if any money. They have to owe a lot to creditors.

>>102474104
>t. former vshojofag

yes. the embezzled 500k from a charity. they are completely fucked. fuck them and good riddance. I hope the girls all move on with their careers without this stain following them

>>102473812
>Because this industry is still young
Brother what? The industry already went through it's baby boom and is now in full decline. Hell, it was never meant to be an industry.
It's just a hobby some chicks picked up to make easy money, the pandemic made it popular and more autistic chicks realized that they could just stay at home, react to videos and make bank.
But the pandemic ended and all the normies went outside and touched grass again. The only ones left now are the nerds who were there from the beginning and 80% are in japan.

The biggest mistake these comapnies made is thinking that there was an industry to be built here and that they had first-mover advantage.

>>102474104
The JPs are run as a somewhat separate operation by a different guy so maybe not entirely, but they'd better rebrand pretty quickly. The main part of Vshojo is done though, you can't steal half a million from charity and then just carry on.

>>102474104
It's dead. The vultures are already swarming to claim the carcass.

>>102469951
THANK YOU BASED FISH MAN

>>102474160
Retard
>>102473799
>>102474047

>>102474103
The worst is when you see the same person reply on multiple platforms. If you do it on only one it's possible you're genuinely concerned, you do it on another and you've just outed yourself as a clout chaser

>>102474156
so vshojo management was already shown to be untrustworthy but it got memoryholed because it's about nux?

>>102470104
Mori is still in Holo though

There is no such thing as a good corpo. They are leeches on the talents and do nothing to warrant existing. They pay a tiny sum of money for a model and rigging and then proceed to turn these women into cash cows and will happily fuck them over for an extra dime. Indies are the only ethical vtubers.

>>102474195
Yeah, but they all are in completely different branches (besides v4 and Idol) with completely different management (with the Globie girls not even being allowed to contact the v4 girls). The agencies would be V4Mirai, ChromaShift and Globie, and neither of them are the 2nd biggest

>>102474209
she backstabbed Zen, she deserves to rot

>>102474104
Yes, this is the end of their public image unless they can correct the 500k to charity research that is a fucking instant death for their PR forever
Likeliest scenario is they go bankrupt, talents sue for what they can get and go indie with their IPs

>>102474360
I'm too much of a casual to know anything about that, I don't even watch her, I just appreciate her when I see her pop up in collabs.

>>102468521 (OP)
>VShojo withheld an unspecified sum of money owed to Mouse, and half a million dollars
Now these are diamond hands.

>>102473939
logs is actually asexual and aromantic, this is just autistic banter for him

>>102473799
CyYu is always SO fucking fast to jump at drama.

>>102474233
It probably should end as an "industry", as it only ends up with women getting tons of money off desperate lonely men. If only small indies were left it would be a bit more balanced where the women would potentially earn a living but not become rich.

>there are no downsides in vshojo
So that was a fucking lie

>>102473958
Probably not, I'm afraid.

Vshojo may be one of the big agencies, but they're not exactly of the corporate kind so to speak. Their work culture isn't exactly "professional" per se, so it cultivates a more lax and freethinking environment which was why they were cool with letting their talents keep their models and IPs, which was the biggest selling point. I imagine that more and more of the chuubas that have left will tell their own piece of their personal umbrage against them, and the constant dogpiling will compound to the increased pressure to even the most stubborn of the talents still sticking by them for whatever reason; a cocktail of guilt, shame, and embarrassment would be enough to force them all out of that agency.

>>102473272
I think you're giving them way too much credit. I more see it personally as a bunch of untrained middle class college dropouts suddenly gaining an absurd ammount of money. They slowly begin to embezlle funds towards themselves and eventually growing greedier to the point where they actually take too much believing nobody would notice.

>>102474322
Literally yes
Goes to show how unlikeable that whiny faggot is

>>102474459
now more than ever

>>102474047
Both probably, now that Zen and Mouse are gone, gunrun will most likely try to keep her since she's now her biggest number/moneymaker right now. But, knowing her, she'll dip out, she just wants to avoid chat drama.
Last thing she needs is even more stress.

>>102474423
Unless something drastic happened recently anon is joking, Henya and Zen are friends and they grief and team kill each other in games for fun.

>>102474360
I can't imagine Henya ever doing something bad, enlighten me on these events.

>>102474459
neck yourself windy
fat bvtmfaggot retard

>>102474352
you forgot about VSPO EN with the sexiest chuuba design ever to exist Arya

Should have settled it in the ring

>>102474450
Its either that or living an obscure life as a VA where hardly anyone will ever know you.

>>102473799
>>102474300
>>102474450
Bros...

>>102468521 (OP)
>they stole money from a charity
I always knew vshojo was shit but man why does my opinion being right feel so bad.

>>102474483
>Possibly, but I just assume that while the talents are mostly retards, the management staff and company structure must know some business basics
>I more see it personally as a bunch of untrained middle class college dropouts suddenly gaining an absurd ammount of money.
I just always assumed the management were like business grads at least. Not that that's particularly fine people.
>They slowly begin to embezlle funds towards themselves and eventually growing greedier to the point where they actually take too much believing nobody would notice.
If that's the case, I at least get why everyone is saying they are fucked, that'd be a PR disaster beyond saving.

>>102474104
Unless they can prove in a court of law the charity stealing stuff is fake then I don't see a way out if they come under legal action as a result. Like they would at minimum have to cough up the dough in a settlement and what they gonna do?

>>102474548
prove him wrong
oh wait, you can't
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>102474548
uh oh ksonkek melty
Don't think I forgot how your whore ran a smearing campaign against my kamioshi

>>102473272
yeah I posted above here
>>102472564
a case where another merch/youtuber company had basically this issue where they spent too much money because management were retards, they fucked up their cash flow, and they ended up getting caught doing this semi-ponzi thing where they used one youtuber's merch payouts to pay another and so on down the line

what did kson mean by this

>>102474104
It wasn't "1 fell swoop", but yeah, vshojo is fucking dead.

>>102474550
I forgot about them and they're an even bigger example of different management, you can't even make porn of them

>>102474575
>Frame 0 cloutchasing
Impressive

>>102474629
>Don't think I forgot how your whore ran a smearing campaign against my kamioshi
qrd?

>>102474515
Glad to hear, I mean henya in general doesn't seem like someone who's got that much machiavellian energy, if nothing else because she's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

>>102473806
Slim to none, if her tweet is any indication. The upside to Vshojo doing fuck-all for her: she's out of the loop.

>>102474642
It means she was happy half a day ago, anon. Before any of this dropped. At least try.

The more concerning part is the fact that this company was managing the personal funds of a disabled girl and are now refusing to release said funds to her. I know she focuses more on the charity stuff but if they are refusing her access to her own money that's a whole new level of fucked.

>>102474642
it means vshojo japan and vshojo prime operate under completely different management

>>102469951
They pulled a fucking Luigi kek

>>102468521 (OP)
>katara being the actual adult woman she is she jumped ship almost immediately when she heard something brewing
>but sadly ukrainian-russian blood flows through her so she left everyone behind too
kek

>>102474104
It's so fucking over. It has never been more over than it is right now.

>>102474625
>prove in a court
Anon, this is the entertainment industry. Court decisions are worth shit. It's what people feel, and it's very easy for any of the ex-vshojos to shed a few tears for their fans to start a witchhunt.
Vshojo is absolutely, completely, undeniably fucked. The talents will be fine and that's all that matters.

>>102474682
>you can't even make porn of them
JP artists can't, you can, whether drawn or AI generated.

>>102474640
That's usually how a lot of businesses go, especially if they are still actively scaling and using future money to pay for current expansion, it's like building a tower on a shaky foundation, eventually it becomes instable.
It's a boring explanation, but the most realistic, happens all the time in business.
Also would coincide with them slowing down their expansion, which is where these moves often fail.

And you all thought the Brave takeover was a meme

>>102470104
The Golden Age of Phase-Connect is just beginning

>>102474801
The VSPO yakuza will get you even out of Japan

>>102474688
Back during tfhe drama about Pikamee's graduation, Pomu talked about how she knew it was coming and the reasons for it. A couple days later kson decided to attack Pomu calling her a liar and sicced her fanbase (including a fucking sjw kotaku writer) on her because she couldn't handle that Pikamee/Henya confided more in Pomu/Min then in kson.

>>102469951
Oh shit you are right. Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing.
lol
lmao
kek
hehe

>>102474822
Oh it's over
gg

>>102474759
>she jumped ship
she was literally fired, retard

>>102474322
I'm a Silverfag. They forced all the girls to publicly apologize to Nux. Silver playing that shitty wizard game was prime Dumb White Bitch shit, but refusing to apologize to Nux? It was worth whatever wrist-slap Vshojo gave her.

>>102474740
I thought she meant they failed to pay her her cut.

>>102474816
They will be acquiring Vshojo at a much lower price now

>>102474575
Fun fact: Cy Yu has NEVER tried to show support in drama involving a creator smaller than him unless it's against them. He always takes the side of whoever has the most clout.

If you are a Vshojo member, parachuting the imminently crashing plane at posthaste is highly advisable.
You wouldn't want to be seen as "that girl, who stuck up with the charity embezzlement crooks", now would you? And since you get to keep your personal alias, there's ZERO reason to stick up with them.
It's so over.

>>102474104
Vshojo is on suicide watch. its very much over.

>>102473961
Hard to say
>Melody now just spends her days cooming in Nipland
>Haruka's essentially graduated
>Amalee JUST joined
>Henya's on hiatus...again (though I think we all know why at this point)
I can't really say anything about the others since I don't watch them, but I have a feeling Kson's next

Neither the company nor the talents that knew about the charity thing should come clean out of this.

I thought Ironlung was the make a wish tuber? When is she going to die? Also, lol Vshojo.

>>102474876
She mentions at the beginning that they were managing all of her financials for her.

>>102474852
That's nasty especially since there was so much shit flying around with the pikamee graduation, about half of the pikamee fans were on fire thinking she got bullied off the internet for playing the hogwarts game and they needed pomu to step in and say no that's not why

>>102474852
wow... just wow.
kson is a cunt

didn't realize that jirad the completionist ran vshojoj

>>102474822
Counting down to Asmon doing some reaction so it blows up even more to the normies.

>>102469597
Ask me how I know you're a phasebrown

>>102474883
Also if they have cashflow issues whoever is left last gets handed the hot potato of not being able to pay them out.

Holy fuck. Phasefags/Phase Connect unironically moving to second place in the EN vtubing sphere purely from the downfall of others.
What a fucking time to be alive.

>>102474816
Brave's gonna eat a bunch of nothing anon. Vshojo is not just having a revenue issue like the others, it's imploding. There'll be nothing to take over.

>>102474916
>Henya's on hiatus...again (though I think we all know why at this point)
Pregnancy?

>>102471843
Nyan and Silver sure, Vei is too busy being a tradwife to say stupid shit anymore, so its in everyone's best interest that we dont disturb her

>>102474882
kill yourself sincrocuck

>>102474963
they weren't managing her personal financials anon, she means they were the ones who got the checks from all the subs/donos/etc and had to cut her a check for what she was owed out of it
They weren't fucking managing her bank accounts

i told you it was a scam charity

>>102473382
>you will heard anything about this until fucking years later if ever
lol my little anon can’t be this cute

>>102475066
Post hands

what should we do now, when it has been proven that Mouse snitched 500k IDF dollars and threw Vshojo under the bus

>>102474792
I guess so but I mean, nijiEN still exists after all the shit it's gone through. If gunrun wants to try to salvage it and forceit to exist out of pure tryhard, they might still attempt to limp on. A court settlement would actually-end them however.

Bad reputation doesn't by itself kill a company, just the expected effects that the reputation brings. In nijiEN 's case they can always be lifelined as being a side branch to nijiJP to keep them alive. In vshojo's case I mean, they already weren't making money anyway so they will proceed to.. not make money harder?

Probably what I might expect however would be a mutual flight of most of the non-JPs if not every single one once the remainders weigh that it literally gives them negative debuff to remain. If Gunrun doesn't lower the curtain himself the members presumably will do it by proxy by leaving.

corpos were never good
/lig/ supremacy

>>102475044
I can personally confirm this is the case, yes.

>>102474990
Damn it feels good to be a fincel

>>102473382
>thinking the people that left on their own terms didnt have to sign non-defamation contracts to keep their shit

>>102473294
I can just imagine her slipping back into full American accent and going GODDAMMIT like Dee Reynolds, like she sometimes did as Pikamee.

>>102474866
read between lines you fucking mongoloid

she didn't care what a dying org would do to her, she jumped ships the moment she broke the contract on purpose

>>102474104
>"correct me"
>Saba pic
ToT

>>102475066
Mousesperg, this is the closest you'll get of a W, her old corpo is collapsing because they were retards/scammers.
Just leave while you are ahead.

>>102474625
even if there's no court ruling this is suicide for PR

>>102475146
gunrun is going to jail dude

>>102471843
nyanners is a ladder pulling back stabbing snake, vei is a cunt that never grew out of her highschool mean girl phase, and as far as i know silver is one of the few vshojo girls/former vshojo girls that wasn't a piece of shit

>>102474615
I don't think they're business grads. I think they're just young friends of a friend with too much initiative. Like making a small business is super easy, all you need is to file a few paperwork and set up a bank account. Literally ANYONE can run a company, doing so successfuly is another matter altogether.

And if you are someone who never in their lives has seen a million dollars and suddenly you gain control of a bank account that shows seven figures it doesn't take too much to start misbehaving. Hell large professional corporations struggle with this.

>that'd be a PR disaster beyond saving.
Don't worry, it already is. The Ironmouse video alone is gonna probably cause a lot of sponsors to pull out.

What's the actual point of corpos?

Can Asians actually run a business without being involved in corruption? I'm beginning to notice a pattern... How hard is it to run a business without breaking the rules? Impossiburu charrenge

>>102474073
Yagoo picked up the phone

>>102475292
>Asians
Vshojo is based in San Fran, my dude. Shoudl tell you everything you need to know

>>102475271
Protection and Money.

>>102474642
>this bitch is happy?
>let me a fat shit all over her next day
God's a bitch sometimes

>>102475271
corpo drone viewers

>>102475311
>Yfw kson simply tweets GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS
>Yahoo retweets it

>>102474615
>business grads
vshojo was founded by mowtendoo, gunrun, and a bunch of egirls
none of them have experience running massive companies except maybe gunrun who was an investor in twitch early on.
the rest were just youtubers who knew entertainment and had a bunch of money

>>102475146
if gunrun really deliberately pocketed half a mil from charity funds and more from a disabled woman do you really think thats comparable to anything anycolor has done?

>>102475374
>protection
>when the talents get attacked all the time anyway and the corpos don't do shit
>money
>the money that the corpos steal from them

>>102475055
>Vshojo thread
>Random seething about a completely unrelated person
What the fuck does she have to do with this lmao
Sayu has the craziest schizos

The fuck, did they just pocket all the money donated or something? Surely there's systems that you set up to allow the money to go through the charity of choice.

Its so over

>>102474452
Yeah. It's kinda the promise VShojo made when it was first founded. It wasn't a real "corpo" and they will just handle merch for you while you can keep doing whatever it is that you like doing.

But even handling merch isn't that much of an issue now that companies popped up that automate the process from beginning to end.

>>102475271
To do the busywork for a vtuber for a percentage of the profits in theory.

>>102474526
You're never going to get an answer, it's just some schizo that's been trying the "Just spam it until people believe" strategy.

How does he keep winning?

>>102475271
Consolidation of resources
Original plan of Vshojo was that together a bunch of indies could pool their money and share managers/accounting/books/merch and save money since none of them needed full time managers or editors or merch people, they could split costs and as long as everyone got along it would work.
Amalee joined even though she's successful on her own because she was tired of paying companies to manage shit for her and she just wanted to offload the responsibility and maybe pool resources with likeminded talents

>>102475146
Retard, do you know how bad tax fraud (and especially CHARITY tax fraud) is? If it can be proven, it's 5 years in jail minimum.

hilarious, hololive no longer has any semblance of competition in the west

>>102474113
Talents being able to keep their character IP is one of the most hilariously terrible business decisions and I've said this for years. It's like how some vidya composers managed to get majority or full rights to their compositions for a series, and often end up throwing a wrench made of pure monkeyshit into negotiations involving future use of content from said series due to being massive prima donnas. COUGHsquareenixCOUGH This was unambiguously a good deal for the talents, but speaking purely from a fiscal standpoint, it's utterly insane.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>102474261
So who would Phase poach out of all the vshojo talent?

>>102475271
ease of contact with merch manufacturers

>>102475598
oh no phasecucks don't look

>>102475550
I'm sorry for doubting you Blue Jew. Vshojo backstabbing you should have been the foreshadowing I needed to see the truth.

>>102475271
Get rich people richer.

Transfer of wealth from corpodrone retards to greedy wealthy executives and investors

>>102470810
red tape still needs filling for tax purposes (even when charity donations are untaxed)

>>102475550
>winning is becoming a grifting react andy struggling for relevance
his voice is still god awful too

>>102475194
>she broke the contract on purpose
No, she's just a greedy ass bitch who became friends with bricky and thought that she could do a merch run through his company to pocket more money without vshojo getting a cut.
It was just greed and running a business order through a friend without really giving it much thought.

>>102475366
>Asian Americans
>worse, CALIFORNIAN Asian Americans
Destined to fail from the word "go"

>>102475598
Arguably indies, the Saba+Doobi+Nimi triforce.

>>102475550
let's not go that far

Welp never trusting any vtuber corps ever again, everyone is just evil it seems, so fuck that, guess ill only watch indies from now on

>>102475635
Numberwise? Probably NOVA

>>102475669
>winning is watching others implode for fun and profit.
Easy wins. 10-0 matchup dramafags vs streamers.

>>102468521 (OP)
BYE BYE BITCH! YOU FUCKING NOBODY! YOU FUCKING GRIFTER! PHASE CONNECT STRONG!

>>102475163
except for every corpo going indie a ligger leaves for a corpo. it's all revolving doors

>>102475635
A grand total of none of them

>>102475713
hilarious, I'll agree Nimi was looking like the only one who kept her spark but she threw hers away too

See. This is why I only watch holo. Every time I try to branch out, shit like this happens.

>>102475432
In terms of real consequences no, but in reputational terms Selen's firing and the elira black stream were about as much a cyanide pill for them as this would be. Even if Riku stole half a mil nijiEN fans would be like "not the girl's fault, yes he messed up but I'm still gonna support mg oshi" etc. In vshojo's case because the IPs are not captive to the company there is 0 incentive to try to find an excuse around it.

There could have been other ways this could have gone down, such as Gunrun just stepped down and shouldered the legal burden discretely out of sight while they have a new leader etc. but in this timeline, they had a flight of valuable staff and then valuable members and now the main face and engine of the company.

>>102475635
There is no more room in Phase Connect.

Just fucking how?
How the fucking fuck can they get away with just fucking doing fucking nothing?
And winning?
How the fuck do we fucking stop them, browntrannysisters?!?!

>>102475745
Corpos are just youtube MLMs all over again in a different suit.

>>102475781
Phase man, the corpo needed her, not the other way around

>>102474980
Doesn't he like Mouse? Vshojo is double dead if he covers it lol

>>102469785
Nijisanji is evil in standard profitable entertainment company ways.
VShojo appears to be evil in techbro ways

>>102475550
Nux has never won anything in his entire life

>>102475271
What everyone else said, and also you join an ecosystem where a rising tide lifts all boats.
It's why hololive is such a good deal despite the perm autism and the japanese workload. Once you join, artists will be spamming you with fanart and you will automatically join 4-views territory, no matter how bad you were doing as an indie.

If what gunrun did is true, that is criminal and goes beyond "le black company. BAD" foolishness. this is a very very serious crime if true.

>>102475628
Yeah I wondered for years "lol how does vshojo make money" and it turns out "they don't lol"

>>102475845
this is basically a swastika for this board now

>>102475783
Not this time, the only corpo big enough to make /lig/gers drop their IPs is hololive and that's just 5 sacrifices to satan every year or two.
Meanwhile with vshojo collapsing we are getting about a dozen new chuubas on /lig/ and /big/

>>102475685
>greedy
ITS ALL GREED YOU FUCKING 14YR OLD SOCIALIST PIECE OF SHIT

Everyone, specially corpos, has to make money out of this to at least survive

>>102475271
I'm starting to think Nyana potentially going to a corpo is going to be the biggest mistake she's ever made.

>>102475874
he just got giga vindicated

>>102475972
Not if she’s in the fabled Holo En 5.

>>102475189
tellemtobringoutthelobster!

Kuro
Michi
Amalee

They all removed vshojo from their description. It's over.

>>102474642
>13h
>47m

>>102476027
Well that was fast.

>>102474916
>Haruka's essentially graduated
I dont think her Aspergers could handle being in a corpo

Vshojo is dead

>>102475796
that's a big number

>>102476027
I will never forget vshojo for ruining Henya

>>102476027
>Gunrun "fixes" his taxes
>Bails
Kuro got it good

>>102476027
>Is real
Damn.

>>102468521 (OP)
At first I was "Hey, maybe anothe corpo? ..." but oh yeah, she cant get out of her plastic bubble, welp, gg, another future ligger bait it seems.

>>102475189
>>102476021
>oshiing a whore that got gangbanged in front of you
Yikes

>>102476047
>>102476027
The thing is, there are always 2 sides to a story. Kneejerking isn't a good idea until the "other" side reveals their cards.

I've always wanted to start my own corpo. Is this my moment?

>>102475982
He remains a bottom feeder with no real friends, this doesn't affect him in the slightest

>only 300 posts
damn, this board doesn't care about vshojo

>>102475550
How does anyone enjoy this dudes content? Especially his recent shit.

>>102476166
wait now that she's no longer under vshojo protection maybe the truth about her fake condition can come out

>>102468521 (OP)
>Mouse retains full ownership of her IP and all related assets
Corpo exec here, this basically means that the Ironmouse IP is worthless.
Look at hololive graduates for contrast. Cover didn't let go of a single one of them. They know how much Aqua's and Gura's IPs are worth.

>>102470104

>>102476191
The damages are too heavy, nothing will make vshojo recover from this

>>102476223
Twitch streamers get the rope

>>102476263
I can see why corpos are having such a tough time with retards like you at the helm.

>>102476191
What cards? Even if gunrun shows receipts and proves he's innocent shit has already hit the fan and keeping any relationship with vshojo is a death sentence for your career

>>102476223
it really doesn't Twitch stuff is like 10% of what gets posted here, most twitch vtuber fans are on discords.

>>102473936
PUt mE In tHe VIdeO PaRroT

>>102475845
>main executive is actually involved and knowledgeable about the product
>Diversifies revenue streams by not focusing excessively on volatile personality driven streaming market
>Long and thorough screening process for new talents, with only a few outliers making it through and leaving within the first year
>General conduct guidlines for talent that makes talent easily approachable but still unique
>relations between staff and talent are kept friendly but professional, allowing them t operate smoothly in most cases
>willingness to prioritize employee welfare of investor demands

>>102475935
Fuck. Makes me wonder if they could possibly be on the hook for misleading shareholders/investors, too. No way they've been seeing the truth of Vshojo AND still sticking around.

>>102473936
Do not put me in the video, parrot
Put this anon>>102476388

>>102475972
Really hoping it's Phase, since it seemed like it was kinda hinted in her graduation.

>>102476191
Gunrun could be responsible for the peaceful end of the War of the Lion's and the destruction of Ultima, he's still not getting away with stealing $500 thousand from the Immune Deficiency Foundation.

>>102476551
>FlaVR going into Phase Connect
It comes full circle.

Gunrun stole kid charity money holyshit it's like the crazy dudes in home alone 2

>>102475773
Wait, doesn't NOVA have a huge record deal? What happens to that?

>>102476363
>What cards?
That's the problem. We have no idea what those cards are yet. It could be literally anything.

>>102476286
They try to take others down with them

>>102476551
I hope Nyana is fine waiting until 2029 for a 3d concert at a convention then. She isn't getting in a Phase 3D any time soon.

>>102476027
kek

>>102476651
now I wouldn't go that far

>>102476263
Nijisanji kept control of the Aster IP.

>>102473952
there was a doxxer pretending to be vshojo.

vshojo did nothing about it, not even making a statement to let people know to be careful

Nux asked vshojo if he could make a vid on it, they gave the go ahead

Nux made the vid and showed it to vshojo asking if it was alright to put up, they gave the green light

Nux posted the vid, which then caused people to start shitting on vshojo

vshojo, in a panic, had their talents lie about nux saying that he made the vid without their permission and that it was interfering with the investigation(with several talents like nyaaners and froot calling nux a horrible person and a racist and the like, as well as multiple indies that orbit vshojo like snuffy joining in the slandering and libeling of nux)

it then came out that vshojo lied

the only talent to publicly apologize to nux was zen, some apologized privately, most didn't apologize at all.

>>102476711
Vshojo stealing half a million dollars from a charity is literally criminal and someone will go to jail for it. That is fraud and theft. When NIJI and EIEN did was not anything anybody can do jail time over.

>>102476651
someone shooting another person in the head on live television doesnt make the zodiac killer a good elementary school teacher

Hahahahaha Hahaha Ha Hahaha Hahaha

>>102476027
oh it's OVER over, fuck

>>102476027
>whore
>whore
>and gigawhore snake on par with nyanners's snake ass did this performative stunt!
Wow, so brave.

>>102476027
At the end of they day they're all just twitch thots.

>>102476842
kuro is male

>>102476726
In that case the IP is ruined. It's probably worth 0

>no controversies while having the most unhinged, based, channers of any group

how the fuck do they do it

>>102476128
So that's where those 500 clams disappeared to

>>102476906
A manwhore yes

>>102476027
didnt amalee join vshojo very recently? this is fucked lol

>>102476614
"To learn who rules over you, find out who you can't criticize"
I say those cancer kids had it coming, fuck em. It takes a truly sigma person to steal money from cancer kids.

>>102476906
proof?

>>102470810
>can't she just do another sleep/react slopathon and do it right?
A charity stream raising loads of money just doesn't hit as hard as "ironmouse is the most subbed vtuber in the world".

>>102469951
Is this the sate of the #2 EN Vtuber company? that's sad, the EN corpo scene is dead

>>102476979
The mental illness cancels out, they all know they are broken in various ways and have found ways to navigate each members personal issues for the most part.

>>102477061
Maybe your En corpo scene

>>102469597
Mouse antis are so retarded

>>102476842
Please don't say that. Michi is a nice girl, she struggled a lot and don't deserve your slanderous words.

>>102476614
Stealing from Ironmouse Deficiency Funds is based

it's out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RdWQXswbRQ
Nux was right, this company was shit.

>>102477144
>Michi is a nice girl
she joined vshojo

>>102477207
who

>>102477207
>Iceberg
>berg
I'm noticing

>>102477144
Nice girls don't join whorehouses.

>>102477207
Who the heck is this clown?

>>102476812
I dunno why you're making analogies because neither of these involved an actual felony lol

>>102477234
I assume he's in various private tuber 'cords

>>102477133
I'm checking and it seems to be just Hololive now, Niji has higher numbers than phase but who knows how many are legit

>>102477153
Isn't that the retard that got laughed at on stream by the scammers he 'exposed'?

>>102477334
Nuxtaku is a lolcow, yes. Nobody takes him seriously.

>>102477207
Phasechad, i kneel

>>102477207
Tip of the iceboig, ya say? Oy gevalt...

>>102476347
vshojoseethe

All vtuber corps should fucking die. They are not necessary anymore.

>>102477334
>>102477385
unbelievable, vshojo is going up in flames and they're still seething at him, niji behavior

It be funny if Vshojo came out with a receipt that they actually donated the money and make Ironmouse looks bad.

>>102477309
niji males pull higher numbers, niji girls you would never expect get mogged by random phase girls and when pippa isnt kneecapping herself she pulls in about as much as the top niji males monthly

>>102477299
>>102477207
I don't care who does it, I fucking hate vagueposting. Say what you want to say or shut the fuck up.

THE MERCH ENGINE NEVER ENDS, CONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMEEEE

What a great day for dramafags

>>102477482
she looks bad enough already

>>102477473
I dislike both Vshojo and Nuxtaku. Imagine defending that faggot.

>>102477482
Brother. That would be god tier as a dramatic twist.

>>102477543
ZING

>>102477473
You don't have to be a fan of Vshojo to think Nux is a fucking retard with an annoying voice. Vshojo was partially in the wrong over the scam situation but he handled it badly too and has proven in the years since that he is indeed a ginormous faggot.

SEPPUKU SOON.

>>102477482
Yikes, that would really tip the scales back wouldnt it? But then what would be her reasoning for this at all?

>>102477482
Mouse damaged their reputation, she should pay for this

>>102477661
>operating on the negatives
The corporate world is so retarded.

>>102477668
moral grandstanding obviously

>>102477482
The last time we had a twist like that was with the Bayonetta actress claiming she refused the role for B3 because Platinum cheaped out on her and Platinum pulled out the receipts. But also, uh, I doubt that's happening here.

Why are techbros such fuckwits?

>>102477506
And they are all still fighting for scraps, there really is not a #2 that is a worth competitor in EN

hypothetically speaking, what if IronMouse is lying? what would be the consequences? is Vshojo still fucked?

>>102476263
>Corpo exec here, this basically means that the Ironmouse IP is worthless.
Are you retarded?

>>102471254
Lawyers will generally advise against shittalking the entity you're suing because judges don't like it. And it you lose a court case but cost them measurable damages they can countersue you into the ground.

I thought Vshojo had no negatives?

>>102477482
They have to show that they paid her too, then it would change 100%

>>102477748
>if

>>102477661
Lel. The charity money probably got automatically seized from the company bank account to pay the company creditors

>>102477468
You're so mad at Holo it's crazy.
>>102477482
Same, that would be hilarious.

>>102477744
EN for better or worse has only been a 2 horse race for years and the 2nd horse just fucking hung itself. niji nearly competed during the peak of luxium but they still never really measured up

>>102477748
Ironmouse being caught lying wouldn't unrape Vshojo. Too many people have left the company over other issues so this is the death knell even if false.

>>102477661
>Phase orbiter goes for a strike

>>102477748
she would be uniorincally and truly sued into oblivion. not fake Selen/Niji "legal mindset said sue sue sue!". Like, real they are gonna go after her because she libeled and tanked the company

this is actual criminal behavior one way of the other

>>102468521 (OP)
>embezzling charity funds
Holy shit not even Nijisanji is this pathetic. Vshojo is gonna get fucked extra hard in the ass by the US government for this.

>>102477748
> consequences?
For mouse litteraly nothing
For the corpo - huge damage to reputation even if mouse info is not true

>>102477748
They'd still be on the chopping block for withholding talents' money but now they get a nice sharp axe instead of a blunt one

>>102471843
who
Who?
WHO?!?!

>>102477914
>not even Nijisanji is this pathetic
that's because they terminated the only talent who was willing to donate to charity lol

>>102477923
>For mouse litteraly nothing
No, she would be taken to court and monetarily raped. That is a slam dunk libel and slander case.

>>102477748
Who is left at vshojo, they would have to downscale massively, they would regain reputation and maybe be able to get someone that it's worth, but they are fucked

>>102477914
>Holy shit not even Nijisanji is this pathetic.
This blindsided them, they need a sec to think up a shitstorm to top this.

>>102478020
EXTRA EXTRA
AMERICAN CORPARATION SUES DISABLE MEXICAN GIRL!!!

>>102478020
She is disabled and WOMAN
Thats why she will be simply forgiven in this case

>>102478020
Unrelated but imagine how fucked a talent would be if this took place in Japan.

>>102478071
zen and mouse were quite literally 90% of the company in terms of view time. they will probably just accept the loss and sunset the company since they cant support themselves entirely on michi

There ain't no way she would lie. These allegations are very serious and criminal.

>>102476027
Jesus, this is giving me flashbacks to when channel awesome imploded.

>company casually cheats a charity out a half a million fucking dollars
Do these retarded niggers think they're actually gonna get away with this kind of shit?

>>102476027
henya also

>>102478257
Even if the talent said was 100% true with hard evidence the talent would still be sued into oblivion because Japanese companies cannot be shit on publically by employees without extreme legal retaliation.

>>102478455
it's probable that the company was running at a loss and they chose keeping it alive and thought they'd pay it when they recovered. this is just another casualty of the 2024-2025 vtuber crash.

>>102478455
This is actual real life crime. This isn't "NIJISANJI bullied me and I felt sadge" or "I was raped because Aster asked me to come to his hotel room and I said "no" and that was that."

>>102478455
Grab money, move to something in north africa, build a PMC and now they are ready to defend against vtuber fans

>>102476636
It's between universal and them, not vshojo itself, they should be fine.
That said vshojo JP is a complete different story from this clusterfuck since it's a branch. If the main branch implodes they could disband, keep going with the name as VshojoJP (probably the worst decision of all posibilities) or rename yhe branch for something else.
So far, Loulot has turned out to be a decent human being, keywords being: "so far"

>>102478455
I recall some tech bro scammers got away on a yacht with millions and never got caught.

I can't wait for Ironmouse to be summoned to court to testify in the inevitable trial. This is just getting started this is huge.
Will the eventual judge let her appear via video and vtuber model?

>>102478582
What does your fanfiction have to do with anything?

Coffeezilla video soon

>Michi and Kuro have removed VShojo from their usernames
>Multiple members have spoken out in support of Ironmouse
Yeah VShojo is over.

>>102468521 (OP)
i guess... the real freedom was corpo freedom hehuehuehehehuehe

The fleshstreamer vultures are already feasting on the corpse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-ol7eGaHZ4

>>102478910
Now that's something I'd watch instead of some nux trash

>>102478967
If you like twitch vtubers you should love these people.

>>102478967
of course they are. where's the lawyer grifter, we desperately need his take on it.

>bbno$ supporting mouse in the comments
hes so nice to mouse she found a true lifetime friend in him

>>102477766
vshojo melty

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE MONEY FROOT?!?!?!?!?!?!