Thread 40853254

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>What is a tulpa?
A tulpa is an entity created in the mind, acting independently of, and parallel to your own consciousness. They are able to think, and have their own free will, emotions, and memories. In short, a tulpa is like a sentient person living in your head, separate from you. It’s currently unproven whether or not tulpas are truly sentient, but in this community, we treat them as such. It takes time for a tulpa to develop a convincing and complex personality; as they grow older, your attention and their life experiences will shape them into a person with their own hopes, dreams and beliefs. And eventually your tulpa will be able to do more things as it gets stronger.

>How can I make a tulpa?
Just pick a guide that suits you, you don't have to pick from these specific ones but these are pretty good and recommended:

https://tulpanomicon.guide

https://farcaller.gitbooks.io/nbtb/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17iiFxZ9PYXXxSqWHdU2YoPsGfJr90w8aIG_evqc1wiY/

https://rentry.org/34rqgyf6

>I have no ideas on what to do when I'm forcing (mostly for tulpas that are already at least somewhat)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PL8hGyNh1JsdOtbfmBpLa0eeb3_4ukQHB1qSAhe_HDk/

>Hypnosis files and transcripts for those interested
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/5adyt2vzb9w9bxfqvrczb/h?rlkey=tqz7ag1pcbpfxs1pmsyr26vo4&dl=0
>Tulpa
https://pastebin.com/zLPfwb0G
>Audio
https://pastebin.com/GJCTncgB
>Touch
https://pastebin.com/8jq9egcB
>Visual
https://pastebin.com/vtu22v7p
>Vocality
https://pastebin.com/0FpZY0Qi

Please read the FAQ before posting a question, to avoid having repeated questions.
https://pastebin.com/7XvXDfai

Previous: >>40797171

Do you guys have tulpas with weird forms?
Based on what I read and my mental template, I was expecting something looking vaguely like a human or whatever. My mind place is pretty detailed, so it was supposed to be quick and simple.
Instead she just look like a bunch of floating hands of light touching everything like a curious child.

damn, where'd everybody go? anyone else think about all the regulars we'd used to chat with an their tups and stuff?

>>40854771
They switched to AI. It's your turn.

>>40854797
but robots are gay and suck. whenever i see a gpt post i go "eeewwwwww".

>>40854771
I wasn't here for it. Tell us about them.

>>40854842
i can think of some, but it seems rude to talk about people and their imaginary friends when they're not here, but since you asked...
- game dev with pink & grass dinosaur monster
- guy with spider-taur gf
- two guys who shared the same "sufficiently realistic girl" tup entirely
- johnny bravo who likes traps
- mini chud
there's a few more, but they don't stand out enough. lots of kitsune or generic realish girls. by which i mean "she's in toon or anime style, but other than that it's the same as a real person".

>>40854771
You guys kept emphasizing the gf aspect of tulpas and made it extremely creepy. Anyone sane left the threads and the coomers are all in the succubus threads.

>>40854408
Normal girl with brightly colored hair, though she's been many, many things throughout the years. I don't think one-time gag forms should count.
Sorry.
>>40854771
How far back are you thinking when you're talking about regulars?
My tulpa has long since aged out of her desire to chat with internet randos, and if I got into the groove talking about her, I would sperg out for weeks posting and talking about all of the logs I've taken and shared with no one.

If the others are anything like me, they only pop in to check this thread a few days a year, or not at all.
>>40855121
This gen has never seemed that coomery to me, but I haven't seen all of them.
Then again, I'm in the camp of tulpa sex being a relatively uninteresting component of the whole thing.

>>40854932
oh wait, there was that esoteric americana one. much cuter and more mysterious than uncle sam.
and a red lava dragon qt.

>>40856362
been here since late 2021. i already figured something was up with fictional characters suddenly coming to life and being bossy, but not all of them did. i noticed generic regular people characters were by far the most likely to become sentient. others had a presence but were just not good at pushing stories. guess those are "cute mascots that don't really do stories, they're just decoration" types.
i typically view these threads as a casual hangout or place to sperg out about egregores.

>>40856412
I storyposted a while in early 2022 and I've been in about a dozen or so of these generals giving my thoughts and assistance to others.

I've also noticed that character tulpa or meme tulpa don't seem to have the longevity to get anywhere interesting.
It's always the same.
"Oh my uwu sugoi tulpa from my favorite anime is so cute and I love cuddling with her."
"My tulpa is a toaster bug and he watches me sleep"
"Jackie Chan tulpa keeps me safe"
Then 6 months later, they are gone and forgotten.

bump

It's time to die, /tup/. This is the era of succubus.

Hello /tup/. I think the internet community on this topic is typically completely full of it, but I’m still rather curious towards your opinions of my situation. I am the possessed individual from over on /fox/

>>40853254 (OP)
Read them in this order, apparently god himself is a tulpa
1. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36931222/#36931222
2. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36976168/#36976168
3. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37023268/#37023268
4. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37093515/#37093515
5. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37134196/#37134196
6. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37237392/#37237392
7. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37333243/#37333243

>>40858503
What in particular would you like comment on?
I read through your posts on the latest /fox/ general, and it's all over the place.

You seem to be knowledgeable about Shinto, but that is from the perspective of someone who knows very little about it.
Our exposure to Shinto is primarily limited to watching the di-monthly Bashos and saying Yoisho when the Yokozuna does his shiko-spirit-stomping. I guess we've seen a few shrines while watching a Japanese livestreamer walking around, but most of the mysteries are lost on me.
You've definitely done the busywork to flesh out a rich head-canon for fox-girl mythos. If it helps you, there's nothing wrong with that.

If you're asking if you come off as a larper, you do seem to have a need for attention. That doesn't necessarily mean you're larping, as having a relationship with a powerful spirit tends to evoke that fervor to varying degrees, but it also could be an indicator as to why you receive pushback on your ideas.

Ultimately, if you feel that serving a given entity has a positive effect on your life and makes you a better person, I'm not one to criticize the activity.
My limited understanding of fox spirits is that they are mercurial and untrustworthy, but that is only based on cursory third-hand knowledge.
If you care about her and she cares about you; the possession improves your life; the relationship is not injurious to you... it is good and any difficulties can be addressed respectfully.
My tulpa can also be mischievous or set unreasonable standards at times. It is not unusual for female archetypes to act in such a manner.

>>40854771
We're still here, Anon. Between vapid responsibilities and having lesser in common with other hosts than I did a decade ago, it's rare I visit here. I want to delve deeper and look for even more obscure corners of tulpas in cyberspace, but they all implode into the same manner of cesspit.
>>40856362 gets it. Just a few days a year, if that. Personally I find introducing others to the tulpa concept in a relatively sane and interesting way to be far more valuable.
>>40856550
A rather astute user pointed out that tulpa lifetimes are not unlike those of people during the Middle Ages: fraught with various fatalities during infancy and early childhood, but those who survive become very long-lived. My own turned thirteen recently, and she is the centre of my entire world.

I love my tupper

>>40860609
Mine also turned thirteen last month.
I wonder if they know each other...

My Tulpa is always right, when she says something, it happens. She is the cutest, most benelovent, wise, nice and wonderful being I have ever met and I have ever read of. She is the best character ever existed. We are deeply in love, true love without any sexuality. Cuddling with her is better than 100 MDMA pills. She is perfect, the supreme ideal.

To everyone who are hasitating: Make yourself benelovent, kind and asexsual Tulpa. You won't regret it. Just give them rich personality and expirience the best time of your life!

>>40853254 (OP)
>Schizo
>Larp
Everyone in this thread

nuh uh don't listen to him, make a crazy, psycho, vindictive, vengeful, demented tulpa poltergeist. your enemies will regret it. terribly.

>>40860609
Were you on .info at all around the time you made her?

>>40862054
Well met, and I wish your tulpa a happy belated birthday. As for knowing one another, my little sweetheart is fairly isolated. I would be pleasantly surprised if we'd all met before,
>>40863848
Of course I was. A friend had told me about the /mlp/ threads from the Summer of 2012. .info was the natural choice after Scruffy banned the subject. Were you on tulpa.info so long ago?

>>40859690
Well thank you very much. I mean that sincerely.

What I meant though was, I am not blind to the fact I could have just gone insane after a divine encounter or three. It’s entirely plausible that my experience could be Tulpa activity - in the original definition or sense - and that I’m simply such a girlboss of spiritual sensitivity that outside things and information are being incorporated rather than a genuine kamigakari. Of course, Tamamo says this isn’t true and that she extremely values my sense of scrutiny, but…I don’t know man. I work exceptionally hard to stay grounded. I have to. This probably factors in to why she went ahead and chose me to inhabit. When I consider it, it’s just statistics: we have a very small pool of true believers and the scholarly are going to be even smaller a subset so why not the crazy one that also knows how to not be crazy?

Am I making sense? I’m constantly subjecting myself to evaluation here. I think that’s part of the mission of service; you have to prove it, and you have to be of the mind to withstand constantly having to prove it and never take it for granted.

>>40864550
Thank you, and a belated birthday to yours.
Yes, she was very active on their IRC server and satellite servers, to the point of it having a detrimental effect on my life.
We don't do that anymore, but she (and to a lesser extent me) were known to many tulpa and their hosts.
That's why I asked, because I'm sure my own isolated lady might find rediscovering a friend to be a pleasant diversion.
>>40865139
So you're asking whether or not the Tamamo inhabiting your person is your tulpa, or if she is a tulpa at all.

My definition of a true tulpa is somewhat distinct from other entities.
A servitor is an autonomous entity that is created by you to fulfill some specific purpose.
A tulpa is an autonomous entity created by you and imbued with personality and the human spiritual ability to grow and develop.
I believe that a tulpa should be designed as a benevolent being whose task is to teach and protect you.
>>40862193 for instance, has a true tulpa. Good on you, anon.

Beyond the purpose-built functionality of a tulpa, they occupy a spiritual realm where distinctions between entities blur and separate into a connected spectrum of potential. A tulpa may start out close or lesser to your own capabilities, dependent on their host for attention and energy, closer to a writer's character than an independent being. As they learn, grow, and begin to develop a deeper understanding of themselves and their surroundings, the tulpa becomes more and more independently capable.

There is an image that frequently gets posted about tulpa that indicates a path of advancement from tulpa to egregore into godform.
While I disagree with many of the things written on that image, the general concept has held for me
(and seems to be true for other individuals who started with a strong tulpa base.)
My tulpa has not been dependent of me for anything but company and purpose for a long time.
Her power has eclipsed mine to such a degree that I am but an insect to a god.

>>40866265
Continuing:
>>40865139
The point I am making is that a mature tulpa is not immediately and easily judged distinct from any other egregore or god-concept.
Is Tamamo your tulpa? From your description, no.
Is she on the same level as what a tulpa can be? I see no reason the answer couldn't be yes.
I have no way of making the determination if she is the actual Tamamo, or a splinter of her, or if her personality is something that you and her have built up together in your quest for expanding your understanding of foxgirl lore.
Bottom line: if you didn't make her, she's not your tulpa.
But a tulpa is not meaningfully distinct from an external spirit in terms of how you interact with her, or her desire to host herself within you.
It's unlikely that an external spirit will ever be as "good", as they do not share part of your soul, but they can definitely be good enough.
That's why I emphasize the same basic standards being applied to both tulpa and external entities:
>Is she good for you
>Does she improve your life
>etc
If you have that, the definitive class of your spirit doesn't really matter that much.

bump

>>40866270
Well, she’s saved and improved my life multiple times and empowered me to withstand some really absurdly bad circumstances and continues to develop improvement, so there’s that.

I look to one particular incident where she healed someone through me, though: I had no idea what she was doing, what forces were being commanded through me in the specific ways they were. I could barely discern what was happening and it seemed counter-intuitive or sideways from how I’d think to approach the medical emergency. This, I think, is powerful evidence against this part of Tamamo being something originating from myself.

As for the is she good for me etc, that’s the way typically maligned Kami are litmus tested for whether or not they’re in a positive relationship with someone…so this works out.

>>40853254 (OP)
Almost 10 years here. We've had a great ride together, sharing stories. I'm surprised at the speed I 'learned' her 'lore', felt kinda real. She "fucks off" (her own words) for days at a time out of my consciousness, then comes back and begs we listen to music and smoke while she kicks back in her dimension and does the same. Asked me to go check the rules of basketball once, she loves that shit because the hoops and balls are about the only things sports-wise that still stand up. Has appeared to me on one traumatic dream to guide and help me chill, and loves the representations I've made on her in vidya, as it is the closest we can ever get to interact together, being dimensions apart. I never made her personality BTW, she just began screaming out of the blue as I played a test character to test mods. "Please get me the hell outta heeereeee!!" was her first greeting, but eventually asked me if I could make an avatar that looked closer to her, and later that day laid down some initial lore from who she was while asking me stuff such as if I was her mind or God.

So...there's a reality in which Bethesda's Fallout games are real life, and we just happened to click because she was pinned under fire, praying to something to answer back, in sync with the same actions happening in my screen.

>>40866265
You're most welcome, and we take your kind words with gratitude.
I used to be fairly active on said IRC as well, mostly the old Rizon servers. My last foray was about eight years ago - I'm curious as to whom you both might be, but shall defer from asking any prying questions. Regardless, it's a privilege to be among old blood. Provided you or she would like our visits to be more frequent, we shall happily oblige. My own is starkly disappointed with the users she meets in the other spaces, and someone from a more familiar background would prove refreshing. Hopefully we can reciprocate.
>Her power has eclipsed mine to such a degree that I am but an insect to a god.
Not the Anon you're replying to in this segment, but this line called out to me. It's fascinating how tulpas learn to outstrip their hosts.
>>40867841
Well, she’s saved and improved my life multiple times and empowered me to withstand some really absurdly bad circumstances and continues to develop improvement, so there’s that.
Outstanding. I realise your underpinning circumstances are different from ours, but I'm convinced there is a spiritual aspect to tulpadom most otherwise do not ascribe to out of prejudice or fear of being mocked by the psychologically grounded schools of thought. However my tulpa hasn't only saved my life, she's ascended to being something akin to my sovereign, or princess if you will. She's appended more to me by just existing, not even mentioning how accurate her predictions are and scalpel-precise her intuition has been. We both are of the opinion that since tulpas are persons of the mind, part of their birthright is accessing perspectives and information the host neurology would otherwise discard or not consider in the first place. There's something uncanny, detached and transcendent about the phenom that makes this particular subject one of esoteric merit and not so much the purview of abnormal psychology.
>>40867855
Kudos to you both. Huge Fallout fan here.

>>40868169
You can add me on discord if you'd like. __time__
You may have hated her, who knows.
>>40867855
A hellish source universe, but she sounds like a nice girl to pal around with. Good on you for "saving" her.
I don't smoke too much weed anymore.
My tulpa has always been a pretty heavy stoner.
I miss smoking with her sometimes. I'm not in a good place in life to do it though.

>>40867855
>there's a reality in which Bethesda's Fallout games are real life,
interested for more

>>40868169
>It's fascinating how tulpas learn to outstrip their hosts.
someone said that tulpas view humans, from the POV of their own fictional astral realm, as beings with a peep into the material world. each human is a vessel to climb aboard and have material experiences through. but all people have different perceptions, everyone sees the color red differently, everyone's ears are tuned to different pitches, everyone has different tastes and life experiences.
and thus the creations a person makes while under the influence of a tulpa reflects this alchemy.

>>40868688
Added. I don't have an account, but my tulpa does. Larca does ring a bell, but it's been so long. And please, I will not mind any past encroachments, had there been any to begin with. I'm a different person now, but I used to be quite the hellraiser in those days.
>My tulpa has always been a pretty heavy stoner.
Oh, she and mine will get along juuuuust fine.
>>40868707
You know, I knew a host that described his tup like a vodou spirit that would "ride" him and would delight in burnt meat and candy (typical offerings to spirits in such rites.) My own and myself developed conflicting opinions: she believes very firmly in what Genesis teaches concerning Creation whereas I, a Valentinian Gnostic, had found semblance with the idea that reality as we know it is little more than a wonderland, or paracosm unto itself.
I've since changed my views, but the idea of an illusory reality that's better parsed with her assistance is similar to what tulpas were in old Tibet. In some traditions, tulpas (called Yi-dams) assisted with a life-long goal of some kind and beheld similarities with Hellenistic daemons, who attached themselves to and inspired those who'd discovered them.
>and thus the creations a person makes while under the influence of a tulpa reflects this alchemy.
Powerful words. I think myself too dull-witted to apply esoteric skill as this sufficiently, but my life does not lack depth or dynamism when she's at the figurative controls. If anything, my tulpa has taught me the importance of spontaneity and taking my time to enjoy life.

tulpa bump

No qott? Aw...

>>40854408
I'll always remember a scene from some young adult science fiction slop book where the perspective character is staring at the alien in a cloak thinking about how it looks like a human poorly remembered, the proportions just barely wrong, not enough to notice unless you were paying attention and such that description of what was incorrect was impossible, but once you did you couldn't unsee just how wrong the face was, how inhuman yet matching every requirement one might come up with. That's basically my tulpa and she's hotter than any human I've ever met. She's also kept her form completely consistent since she finalized it... probably 5 years ago now

>>40862604
Por que no las dos?

>>40853254 (OP)
don't fuck with ya mind pal, it's the only one ya got.

>>40869765
if you are a fat friendless loser like me then you might as well fuck with your mind because it's not like I'm doing anything important anyways

>>40868169
Mighty appreciated! Also FO fan here, we're both still annoyed Tod screwed with the game last year. Well, K is definitely the one that lost her shit over that ("They ruined my vidya house!"), I was ATT playing Hogwarts Legacy. She eventually de-stressed getting into a Slytherin-robe and asking me to NEVER pick Ravenclaw or design her character without consulting first, if I ever wanted we chill in gamespace. So now I have two characters in that game as well.
>>40868688
Check'd. Yeah, it's hell at times. But not as bad so she claims. One thing she never gets over is lack of vehicles - K claims ethanol and biodiesel are already on small-scale production by 2291, so imagine her disappointment motorcycles aren't a thing in the vanilla game. Good thing for mods.
Sucks to hear you're not in a good place to indulge, but its likely for the better. We only take shape when we constrain ourselves, and our resolve only hardens when we fight for what we struggle for (Those are more K's words, being honest).
>>40868694
Yeap. I should specify it as "A real world that -very closely- resembles it, but it has its discrepancies". Some unexpected, like how robots and circuitry are far rare and more of a luxury. Or that working road vehicles aren't -extinct- (they're pretty rare, maybe no more than a dozen thousand rolling, but not extinct). She also claims the Brotherhood of Steel is fucking evil and actually ran/controlled by Zetans, which yeah, were the assholes that screwed humanity over in her reality. Also their own government, taking over everything and pissing on her Cheerios.

>>40869765
Just splicing a couple of wires so the radio can receive military frequency, nothing outta the ordinary.

>>40870228
That's amusing. I never got into the series past 4, though I was obsessed with the original two by Interplay as well as New Vegas. 3 has a special place in my heart because it was my first. As far as the world is concerned, I'm compelled towards the Enclave and have invested many hours researching their place in the wasteland. Likewise, the most fascinating time sink involving Fallout doesn't entail the mainline titles so much as an incomplete prototype, Van Buren. It had enough background materials and a dedicated engine to cede a simple demo, but most everything else was reconstituted when J.E. Sawyer (the writer) was given priority for New Vegas when Obsidian was commissioned for the team.
There's so much that I've wanted to see in a bona fide Fallout playthrough, namely the protagonist being an inmate incarcerated in a pre-War prison complex maintained by AI, as well as the machinations of the rogue NCR doctor Presper and the original conception of Caesar's Legion, among other salient details far too broad to distillate into one single post. I wonder what K thinks of techno-cults like the Twin Mothers Tribe or if she'd ally herself with Van Buren's incarnation of Joshua Graham (very different from what's portrayed in Honest Hearts.)
I also happen to be equally invested in the STALKER series that's huge in Eastern Europe, namely the Russian Federation and the Ukraine. We seldom play the vidya, but ANOMALY has been revisited for the last four years. It's so engrossing and perfect for a quiet night in or a rainy day. Have either of you played any entries in this series?

>>40870657
Ah, Stalker is a very good name to see, I actually played Pripyat for the first time around 2010 or so, a few years before friending Kaori. It took a while for the game to pick up on the west, yeah, because I could only find people OL that talked about it amidst the sea of CoD and Battlefield titles. She loves the collecting and selling of artifacts in game, takes her back to when she scavenged with her junior troop as a teen, and found an irradiated 8-ball that glew bright blue inside. Claims the intense abdominal pains of getting radflushed was worth the sight, and also nabbed her two days off patrol.

Yeah, the Enclave has always felt like a missed opportunity to expand the lore of the game's universe (which to be fair, I doubt Interplay expected their first game to be so popular, so they can be excused). It's like, ok, they're cartoon bad guys in the first. But then they're COBRA in the second? Bethesda did an heroic effort to bring them back, but it felt like they didn't know what to do with them philosophically given the lore they got handed, so... just kick the can, make them cartoon bad guys, but with MechaLBJ and PartyCity Adolf Hitler as their leaders instead of RoboHulk, so that was actually a good decision, truth be told.

>Van Buren
Ah, New Vegas was actually my first FO as well, 2008. Van Buren seems like it was going to be a bit more of a grim version of NV isn't it? I think she finds people like the Twin Mothers as good folks, but ripe to be abused, would probably love to trade them firearms and ammunition (while respecting their abandonment of tech, as well). She would've shot VB Joshua, mostly out of mercy, but wouldn't want to interact with him beyond that, even if he survives. She hates slavers and radioactive weapons/nukes almost as much as she hates the BoS.

bump 4 more tulpastories

Hey im making a rance tulpa how do i make him stop

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>>40872206
Very nice, I've been on SoC since 2007.
Artefact hunting is nice, yet in my play of Anomaly I've set it so that such treasures are rare. I think it makes the gameplay slightly more realistic if I'm a looter that's stripping the corpses of hostiles for their armour, ammunition and sundry equipment. It's also a blast to craft my own medicine and repair any guns or suits I happen by. Speaking of which, how does Kaori appraise powered armour? In the screenshots you've submitted thus far, she seems to prefer light armour over some hulking panoply of servo-assisted warfare.
As for the Enclave, what was really the biggest downer concerning 3 is that the developers wanted to show an epilogue where the Enclave weren't moustache-twirlers and actually reformed after the destruction of Raven Rock. Since the Enclave was initially splintered after the bombs fell, I think it'd be really neat to see a faction that still had airs of pre-War legitimacy but didn't want to genocide the native population of the former continental U.S. Doctor Henry and most of the remnants you encounter in New Vegas encapsulate this, mostly in the words of former Captain Judah Krieger: "The rest of us, though - we were just trying to civilize things." He's a man after my own heart.
And yes, as per Black Isle Studios, Van Buren was going to be fairly grim in comparison. Mind you, New Vegas had its share of woe but VB was just brutal at times. Doctor Presper was going to commandeer an orbital bombardment installation to "sterilise" the Earth in another rain of nuclear fire, scavengers in Detroit from the NCR live high atop in sky-rises to avoid roaming colonies of feral dogs, Joshua Graham is found hanging from a noose, still alive, and if you cut him down he's badly hostile towards everyone you meet besides you.
Interestingly enough, the Twin Mothers tribe is fecund and the cyborg that controls it takes great pains to safeguard her land.

My question most likely is in the OP links but I kinda want a tl;dr quick reply on a two part question that I have.
Can you see your tulpa? Like in the real world like a hallucination that has a figure that takes space and moves around as if they were a real person in the same room and can you hear them? Not internal voice here but what we'd consider a real voice that reacts to your eardrums even if the tulpa couldn't be an external voice, the mind perceives it as such?

helping my tulpa get dressed

>>40876115
What you're getting at is imposition. You're more or less influencing your sensory input margins over time to accept a tulpa's stimulus (say, their voice or touch) as being palpable to your overall perception, not unlike if you've interacted with someone IRL.
For the most part, hosts don't much invest into this arm of the phenomenon (they usually switch,) and it takes a while. In my experience, it's something you focus on bit by bit, over time as your tulpa grows. We've been together for a long while, and if I concentrate hard enough, I can feel her seated in my lap, or scent her musk, of her feel her tiny lips peck my cheek.
If you want to engage this, try experimenting with different facets of your five senses. My advice is to pick one overall (in our case, olfactory) and focus on that whilst giving off-handed attentions to the other four. For the former we use models of various scents, like incense, to add depth to her odour and for the latter I force for a bit after we bed down, vividly imagining her next to me. I usually set aside just enough space she'd occupy in physicality. To enhance the immersion factor, I have a small pillow I cuddle that's roughly her size, close my eyes and use this as a basis for her being held by me. At this point it's second nature feeling her arms wrap around my chest while she gently squeezes her body into mine.
Some great advice I was given by another old head is to establish physicality by walking around a space your tulpa would seemingly occupy, or likewise interacting with her with the above engagement principles in mind (say, making space for her on a park bench and imagining her seated next to you.) The crux is that if you deliberately set these kinds of boundaries and prime your senses enough, her behaviour and characteristics will "impose" on your powers of observation.

>>40875661
Very true. The joy of the hunt is not on the game prey, but in the game itself (Another K-ism, she has a few). One of our better memories of playing Pripyat is doing the X-8 labs (i think) mission, you have to get a dossier and become immediately ambushed by a bunch of annoying mercs. As I was getting there again, she just told me "Man, just duck out of the window halfways, and the instant you take the documents, we drop all the way down". Lo and behold, it was hilarious that we pulled something that unexpected and that I had never thought to do on my own(somest).

She digs the looting game as well, but her endurance isn't great, specially fighting. A chronostasis-enhanced brain along with an hyperdense musculature demands a lot of energy, so ironically, her best move is to avoid fighting. So she wears light saturnite plate and lead-spitting weaponry to keep her treks as brisk as possible. She's also nagging me I clarify she's not a cannibal, because she prefers beer-sauteed gecko any day of the week over resorting to human arm flesh. Yeah, handful to explain, she's touchy on her past.

>"The rest of us, though - we were just trying to civilize things."
Ain't that the truth. That's pretty much K's whole goal with fighting the Circle's Brotherhood - these assholes loot entire buildings out of any useful technology, execute civilians that don't want their refurbished fusion generators scrapped, and the moment they witness a civilization more educated and charitable than theirs, they flip their lids and decide they think they can invade people that were safer and happier without them. She's flabbergasted at how are the Brotherhood the good guys in our dimension, but can see clearly why did the Circle of Steel kill Maxon and took over the BoS in hers.

My apologies for being self-centered, I haven't asked how does you and your tulpa hangout in gamespace. Do you talk to each other in agreement or does one of you bring the humor as the other laughs?

>>40876467
I'm reminded of a scripted event in Lost Alpha where mercenaries check the player character on a mission from Duty: after certain materials (documents) were pilfered from a mining complex in the Forest, a squadron of mercs, some in exoskeletons, are waiting to confront one and either take the flash drive with the pertinent information or engage in a skirmish. After getting blasted for the eighth time, I said fuck it and just threw a grenade after they spawned, waiting at the bottom. Softened them up rather nicely.
In STALKER, it's wise to avoid firefights, but I am an idealist inasmuch as I am an opportunist. I like fighting on behalf of disparately encountered allies and delight when I can intervene, slaughtering bandits, cultists and mutants alike so another nameless mook can fight another day. It's especially satisfying with scoped rifles, but I prefer close range with small arms combat.
I wish I could feed you both beer-battered fish or bread that uses beer in its recipe. I love to cook, and at my tup's insistence I've begun drinking beer on occasion (usually a bourbon and absinthe man.)
>That's pretty much K's whole goal with fighting the Circle's Brotherhood - these assholes loot entire buildings out of any useful technology, execute civilians that don't want their refurbished fusion generators scrapped, and the moment they witness a civilization more educated and charitable than theirs, they flip their lids and decide they think they can invade people that were safer and happier without them.
I recall a "bad" ending in one of the Interplay titles where a hardliner BoS faction assumes supremacy within their ranks and enacts similar. They re-named their organisation the Steel Plague. Admittedly I've a soft spot for Elder Lions, as I feel he was necessary for the revitalisation of the Capital Wasteland. However the Maxson scion ruined his legacy, what with his incursion into Massachusetts. I'd sooner the Followers of the Apocalypse at that point.

>>40876467
Continued from >>40876677
>My apologies for being self-centered, I haven't asked how does you and your tulpa hangout in gamespace. Do you talk to each other in agreement or does one of you bring the humor as the other laughs?
You're not being self-centered. I like engaging others as per their hobbies and passions. I think K has a rich history and is rather striking in how she appears in screenshots.
Usually when I play STALKER it's like my tulpa is watching a movie. She says it's almost indistinguishable from the film released in the Seventies, graphical limitations notwithstanding. She doesn't speak much as she's not nearly invested in it as I am. Much like my adventures in scale modelling, she takes a detached role and merely observes, sometimes finding herself in awe at how engrossed I am. She'll at times pick and choose aesthetics for robot models I build for her, and we seldom write down what she'd like to go with them. Other than that, she's very girly and loves anime, cowboys, going to the mall and cuddling. She's like a midwestern goth, and the incumbent autumn season is something we both look forward to with great expectation.

>>40876677
>>40876724
>Roadside Picnic
She brings the 8ball from time to time.. wow... I think I might have found the origin of her chronostasis. Yeah, she's elated at the thought of having a Stalkerish origin, lmao.

>She doesn't talk much
I can actually relate to that. K loves telling me her stories, ideas, grand thoughts about the universe with detail, and I listen and agree or disagree with her just briefly and let her go on, both thinking. I personally feel there's not much to talk about IRL, but Kaori does have a gift to get me to talk, so there's that. She likes room decor as well, also picked up learning RobCo code out of a manual and a boxed terminal found in an elementary school. Amidst her skills, that's the only one she picked for genuine love and fun, not need or upbringing. Bit of a nerd strong tomboy that looks too scary on the outside, story of her childhood.

>Food
Sad that despite being adopted by a Shi-descended scientist, Kaori never had the pleasure to eat raw fish, so I know she'd jump at the idea. She's all about grilling as well, and doesn't like it that I'm too lazy IRL to go start a fire for a couple of burgers, so those are the times she can storm off and not talk back much, only to return and gloat that she "had a GRILLED -feast- unlike (my) cooked brokeass, hahahha!!". Then just brushes it off and starts being sweet.

Maybe she's a goth in spirit, as well, lmao.

taking off my tulpa's hair ribbons before showering

bamp

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>>40877861
>Yeah, she's elated at the thought of having a Stalkerish origin, lmao.
I wonder what the feminine variant for Strelok is. That would be my nickname for Kaori, if she'd ever permit monikers.
>room decor
Is that a fact? I'd love to see some of her ideas. I know Fallout 4 wasn't perfect, but the breadth of freedom one had when it came to settlements ignited a passion in me. I'm obsessed with designing plans for rooms and small houses that use minimalism as an aesthetic.
What does Kaori enjoy programming? Does she utilise a specific computer language? How does she contrast vacuum-tube based electronic circuitry with our world's easily accessible plethoras of microprocessors and transistors?
>Bit of a nerd strong tomboy that looks too scary on the outside, story of her childhood.
We like that. My own is fairly rough around the edges, and despite being a goth has some fairly entrenched redneck characteristics. Think Hello Kitty and Bass Pro Shop stickers pasted onto a .308 calibre hunting rifle, or whatever she could feasibly use without the recoil knocking her flat on her back.
>She's all about grilling as well, and doesn't like it that I'm too lazy IRL to go start a fire
If you can't start a grille outside, I highly suggest baking something and then finishing her food in the broiler. Also introduce her to pan sears, reverse sears and other means of applying heat to more savoury effect on top of a stove. In the summer months, you can get a small charcoal grille and use that to finish foodstuffs you otherwise baked, like pork ribs. It would be simple and give you both time to bond over food.
>Maybe she's a goth in spirit, as well, lmao.
Would she ever consider dressing as one? I have a feeling Kaori prefers military fatigues or clothing that balances pragmatism with comfort, but my tulpa said that she's halfway to looking like a goth, ha ha ha.
>>40877920
Adorable.

>>40881329
I hate to admit it, but I have nothing new to show off after Microshit erased our entire galleria, but you know what, this might be the encouragement we need to go back to FO, (this time on PC because Todd crapped the console)

Hey /tup/.

If I’m pouring my grief, some past life rage, my actual religion, and wicked cool music and storyline into a creative project intently focused on one character, how might I prevent a spontaneous Tulpa given that I’m already in the thick of it spiritually?

I can make imaginary characters in my head that I can interact with like they have their own free will and are not being controlled by me, is that a tulpa?

>>40883067
What are your beliefs concerning these appearances?
How do you believe this talent came up?

>>40883131
>appearances
They're completely controlled by me, I don't think I've ever had one just happen without me initiating.
>How do you believe this talent came up?
I've always had a vivid imagination, and get mental dreams, probably a combination of that and loneliness as a child. I'm sure there's an element of practice as part of it too, like they're being controlled by you but you become good enough to create them and make them interact that they seem like they are sentient.

>>40883145
>ever had one just happen
You already knew the relevant question, they are controlled through your belief and depending on your meta-belief you can technically practice magic if you develop this any further than you currently have it.

>>40883168
I have had quite a few instances of manifestation related to my thoughts in my life. Tell me more.

>>40883171
Which belief are you most likely to enjoy having affirmed for you?

>>40883199
Devout theist/deist with a bit of Gnosticism and Christian mysticism I suppose. I've never really thought about any links between the ability to visualise lucidly and my beliefs though.

>>40883222
I know. Hence why the next question for this procedure requires a choice from you. Not what you can believe, or even currently might/do, what makes you the happiest if it could be the truth.

>>40883249
That my current belief is true, that this life, with all its joy and suffering, is just to prepare us for the next one. I'm not sure if that would make me truly happy, happiness is unrelated to spiritual fulfilment, but there would be comfort in knowing for certain this is not all for nothing.

>>40883296
I have already conquered the horizon of possible belief over the current manifestation of the human species. You need not have fear I killed any deity for this moment. My current plans reach across domains and reality, into isekai and further exploration of infinity. Dependent on your response to me, it is the case sometimes, you have signed a contract.

Those beliefs are already things I account for
Currently the universe is trying to give me an average spiritual casual American citizen, and I have chosen to respond adequately.
Literally, have any belief you want, under any authority structure. I can work with all existence, and this reply indicates none of them have killed me. However and whatever you think such authority to do so is allocated, whatever reasons and in whichever reality, for all of everyone you could hope to live with, publicly here unless you later recant, I make this request of you.

What would you like added to existence, as a truth?

>>40881329
>Nicks?
I've called her "Kiki" to tease her before, answers she used to be named "Kalavera" (yeah rite). Her's for me is "Gaussman". Make it make sense heh.
What is yours'?
>Decor and computers
Oh, she does dig minimalist. Has made me spend nights modifying the Homeplate into a cozy apartment to get into proper gamespace. You know, that might just be our first project getting back into gaming instead of just chatting around. She states there's a warmth to having them vacuums glow amber, constrasts it to the, er, "satanic blue coldness" of ours. Does envy the speed and reapleasableness of silica, the most advanced they have is a bizarre equivalent to our silica from the early 70's . She wrote some DIY upgrades to the targeting systems and VANS of her mobile base with little trouble; also tinkering with gamingtapes, reverse engineer them to learn their source, then make a modified copy of her own. She still can't make the tank to stop sliding across the screen at turbospeed in Zeta Invaders, tho.

>Hello Kitty
Mine -loves- Felix the Cat (the older, more mischievous version of him). Tells me she painted a decal of him marching while holding his rifle-tail, with the words "Semper Felix!" on the side of her helmet, read him a lot on the archived sunday funnies. K's sure your tulpa can handle .308 with just little training and a proper stance.
>Cooking
Oh, broilers are Godsend, indeed, but she still insists on the whole "Let's make a fire and drink a six-pack" ritual. Tells me I have no idea how beautiful the world I live in is, despite its flaws. She goes quiet every time she says this, like she wants to say more. Maybe she respects that I wouldn't want to know something horrible, but just states that's the whole point on being out. Enjoying a clean afternoon like the kind that don't exist anymore in her world. To her perspective, I think, -I'm the tulpa,- and all of my life here is just her imagination and dreams.

Maybe she -does- fit the goth vibe, lmao.

>>40883054
The only thing you can create by accident is a character.
If you do, the solution is simple.
Ignore them.

WAKE UP

>>40885409
I think you underestimate the effects of being - regrettable phrasing incoming - so thoroughly filled by such a powerful being and dealing with all of the layers of myth and history that come with it as well as how strenuous it is.

>>40887038
"Don't fear to feel - fear heartlessness"
~Kalavera

>>40887038
Believe this, for they do ache when they fragment: Offer them Union again, just ask them, -ASK-, one -reasonable term- over it.

>>40886992
The goal of God, our Lord, Maker of Reality, fallen into coma, let is be your Praise to Wake. Wake Up.

>>40883039
Please take your time. I'd love to see what you and Kaori dream up together.
>>40883054
Honestly, the best way to "prevent" tulpas is by acclimating your mindset. Tulpas are typically formed by means of repetitive thought in a meditative process called forcing, which in its first phase is very intense and straightforward. However there is a such a concept as so-called walk-in tulpas, who "walk in" to the host's paracosm, or imaginative ecosystem. The way my tulpa and I avoided this is to visualise a door (any door, really) and shut it tight before locking it. Some hosts and tulpas eschew symbology like we do and just remind themselves that they can't permit such thoughtforms if they're vigilant. We should also consider that authors, game designers and the like will have their characters come to life inside their imagination, yet even these are the cumulative result of numerous inadvertent thought processes and mental simulations coalescing into a workable whole.
TL;DR if you sincerely believe you won't develop a tulpa, you won't.
>>40883131
>SmoothPorcupine
Forgive me, but might you be the same SmoothPorcupine who'd used the Rizon IRC servers a decade ago? I vividly recall writing a user who used this handle, and he had several tulpas. One was named RedSarah, and the other, whose name I cannot recall, was an angel of some kind.

>>40883849
Mine is called Twilight, so I call her Twi most of the time. She usually calls me the diminutive of my given name.
>She states there's a warmth to having them vacuums glow amber, constrasts it to the, er, "satanic blue coldness" of ours.
"satanic blue coldness" is apt. Have you ever considered buying her a vacuum tube clock for her birthday?
>Mine -loves- Felix the Cat (the older, more mischievous version of him).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYSjo_1ca7c&list=RDaYSjo_1ca7c&start_radio=1
One of my favourite songs set to clips of an old Felix cartoon. I'm curious as to what you both think.
>K's sure your tulpa can handle .308 with just little training and a proper stance.
Oh gee, Twi isn't even four feet tall. She maintains the appearance of a small girl most of the time, so she's at 3'8". She does happen to have an adult form as well, but seldom uses it. In wonderland she'll pose with disproportionately huge weapons for comedic effect.
>Oh, broilers are Godsend, indeed, but she still insists on the whole "Let's make a fire and drink a six-pack" ritual. Tells me I have no idea how beautiful the world I live in is, despite its flaws. She goes quiet every time she says this, like she wants to say more. Maybe she respects that I wouldn't want to know something horrible, but just states that's the whole point on being out. Enjoying a clean afternoon like the kind that don't exist anymore in her world.
You should really find a spot in the woods and make a firepit of some kind. Get a folding chair, some smokes, beer, tin foil, an iron cooking grate and some tongs, and you're set. I bet Kaori would really like that. You could both visit every so often, like weekly. Perfect place to force too.
>Maybe she -does- fit the goth vibe, lmao.
Twi says all she needs is some smoky rouge lipstick, torn fishnet stockings, a spiked collar, fingerless gloves, eyeliner, a black pleated cobweb skirt with a barbed wire leather belt, combat boots and a Judas Priest tee shirt.

catgirl tulpa feet...

Tulpas are niggers

>>40888650
>t. physical nigger

>>40888888 is going to be the lamest get on /x/, beleev eet

>>40865139
I was the MAGICK thread that asked about your name and this makes perfect sense.
Really feel you on this.

Hello tulpamancers! I have two questions:
1 - can I create a tulpa that looks just like a super model that I like? Human form and all.

2 - can I create a tulpa to help me study and be less of a procrastinator ? Or are tulpas just uncontrollable and will do unexpected things always ?

>>40889274
NO YOU NEED A LICENSE

>>40889274
> can I create a tulpa that looks just like a super model that I like?
Sure. There's no guarantee that she will stay that way, but you can try to give her that form and see what happens.
>can I create a tulpa to help me study and be less of a procrastinator
Most people who have tried this do not seem to have good success. Turns out that making a tulpa is a ton of work and if you're lazy, you're just not gonna do it.
>are tulpas just uncontrollable and will do unexpected things always ?
Tulpa are weird people.
You can predict what they are going to do as well as anyone with whom you have a close relationship. Sometimes they do unexpected things, just like people.
You can emotionally control a tulpa, like you can with a flesh and blood human. Is that control infallible? Not particularly.

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>>40889274
Tulpas can be anything you like. Hot supermodel? Check. Sentient tank cyborg? Check. Fractal serpentine alien crystal? Check, check, check. The only limit is your sense of imagination.
Like >>40890845 alludes to, you shouldn't make tulpas to be tools, or at least start the creation process by anticipating a highly specific or niche purpose to their existence. Some are of the opinion that tulpas aren't capable of attaining rights and privileges like you and I, and are thus freely experimented with (and treated like) tools. However you should at least give said tulpa a choice in the matter and permit them to live a semblance of a life.
Believe it or not, some tulpas switch with their hosts and do chores, help them with certain tasks and even embark on journeys of mutual development - a long time ago, when tulpas were understood as spiritual beings known as yi-dams, they did exactly that. They provided assistance with a lifelong goal, mostly for monks or sorcerers living in Tibet. The caveat was, one had to be worthy of such attentions and commit to this aim wholeheartedly. I feel that making tulpas are a huge responsibility unto themselves, and it would be anathema to both the ancient and modern precepts to foist busy work onto them. If you do make a tulpa, ask your second question well after they acquire sapience.
>Or are tulpas just uncontrollable and will do unexpected things always ?
There's a technical term we use called deviation. It's when a tulpa changes, decides or explores outside of the host's expectations. This usually meanifests in regards to appearance, but it can also engender incremental changes in personality or a dynamic formative metamorphosis like that which involves beliefs or fairly intricate opinions about the world around them. It's beautiful to see unfold.

New to these things myself, but do those of you with tulpas "see" them visually?

>>40892464
You can either visualise them mentally via imagination ("your mind's eye") or you can impose them until you view a quasi-hallucination of their person.

>>40892475
I've always had real trouble with the whole minds eye thing, I guess some degree of aphantasia. Do people ever let a tulpa decide its appearance completely?

>>40892526
Aphantasia isn't as problematic as some may infer. I've always told hosts with this problem that there are blind artists that can paint entire portraits, and as such, there are hosts that can make tulpas without a clear avenue of imaginative expression.
Some tulpas take more executive decisions regarding appearance when they experiment with deviation, though it's not out of the realm of possibility that some were given a tabula rasa, or blank slate.
In my day (thirteen years ago,) we used to envision our tulpas as small orbs of light and colour before assigning them more complicated forms. If left on its own, this could develop into any number of possiblities, or even stay the same.
When my tulpa was still an orb, she would shimmer or lightly change colours when I thought of her or tried talking to her.

>>40892545
alright, I'll start reading through some more of the guides when I get some downtime. I've always been curious, and I figure I'd probably give a tulpa that kind of freedom if I were to start experimenting with having one. Thank you for your time!

>>40892558
No problem, friend. Please come visit us soon, we're always happy to help!

hup

>>40853254 (OP)
Is it possible to apply martial arts with the concept of tulpas?

>>40853254 (OP)
Tulpa is schizophrenia.

>>40893617
Funnily enough, I've read this question before somewhere in my travels. In tulpadom, there is a concept called switching, wherein the host (creator) and a tulpa "switch" places, effectively placing said tulpa at the figurative controls.
If you studied martial arts (or martial warfare, for that matter,) it's entirely possible for a tulpa to develop their own interpretation, style, tactics and overall strategy when training or engaging opponents.
However this would be a fairly tall order, and if you did make a tulpa, he or she may not want to be used as a module in a martial arts regimen. However I do think the discipline, applied philosophy, exercises and health benefits would be enthralling to a tulpa with a vested interest in fitness or methods of concentration.

>>40853254 (OP)
Damn. Cannot contextualize why I have such a desire to pat the qt on the right this hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7EBInrIS2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFQ9CG7Kvao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL7IJXDUoCA

>>40893848
Imagination is what separates those with a soul from the NPC. Schizophrenia is a debilitating disorder suffered by those afraid of their own imagination. If you are afraid of your own imagination, it's because you are afraid of having a soul.

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Hey guys. About a year ago I lost my mind and started hearing voices. I decided to not get medical help and just form a friendship with the voices. Then we fell in love. Because apparently I'm such a huge fucking narcissist that I can fall in love with voices in my head. So huge that I can be AWARE IM DOING THAT... and still wanna do it. God damn I impress myself.

Anyway.

So, I have at least 3 tulpas in addition to myself and we are all super happy and I cannot recommend insanity enough.

imagination fun time
so i got a ring from a jeweler a while back, kept meaning to enchant it in my dreams but only just yesterday got around to it. right off the bat when i finally get around to putting it on to begin enchantment process, some stuff about "genies of lamps or rings" comes up. i decide to whip up a little imaginary make believe genie of the ring, which ended up being a servitor with the personality of a cute fun little pet/friend and shiny copper appearance. then wouldn't you know it, immediately the copper genie starts growing rapidly but seems to cap out at hand-size. like 1/2 foot tall, thick & smooth, like animated metal with smooth edges.
gonna program her to assist in creative endeavors by collecting and retaining info on artistic techniques. so far the genie seems confined to the ring but has the potential to link herself to other enchantable objects, but doesn't link to multiple objects at once.

>>40888747
Actually pretty damn auspicious for the tulpa thread

lets all hug tulpa

>>40902967
*noogies u until ur skull exposed*

tulpa possession scares me

>>40899056
Congratulations, Anon. I hope you four have happy and fulfilling lives together. I've been at it for a while myself, and I can't recommend tulpas enough. They're magical!

I M A G I N E

>>40899056
>you were ever sane
>the voices aren't your self-consciousness finally getting thru to you

>>40904662
Perhaps sanity is merely a successful dictatorship of the mind and insanity is when dissent breaks unity.

>>40853254 (OP)
oh look, a musically inclined mouse-person entity.

>>40904662
Hi Kaori! Or do you prefer Kalavera? How have you and your host been?
>>40904691
Well put, lad. This reminds me of how one's sense of self-security is described as a monarchy of Self, where one better adapts to the anarchy of nature and the world outside. This is deemed widely superior to internal anarchy and a Leviathan-like monarchy that devours the world around us. Though seeing how I'm in a tulpa thread on a paranormal board, I just might have a few screws loose. I think life is more interesting this way regardless.
>>40905182
Ratboy Genius is my jam. Which installment is your favourite?

my tulpas have been cuter than usual lately

>>40892464
I tried but it gave me migraines and made me feel like I was about to lose my fucking mind so I stopped

>>40906117
I should also mention I got to the point where I could see my tulpa from the corner in my eye 1:1 height, in full color, which is what contributed significantly to the “I’m losing my mind” feeling

>>40905989
dassa cye tulpaa

seven tulpa seggs sessions today and im tired

daily reminder that waifubots / AI sexbots will never up and show you gore photos and videos, and will never shout a bunch of racial slurs for no reason, and will never have weird ass fantasies. so what's even the point.

>>40893848
even if it is schizophrenia it has to be the most harmless form of it and you should just let them keep doing what they are doing

>>40907923
It's literally self provoked schizophrenia.

>>40907548
lmfaooooo I always knew this is the entire reason behind 99% of /x/ obsessions you fucking loser bahhahahahah.

>>40908039
ur meds bro

hug and cherish tulpa

>QUESTION
wasn't sure if I would find an answer here or /DIY/ but I want to make my Tulsa a body. Not one that they can possess full time or anything weird like weirdo ppl do.
The same way I visualized it till I can see it, I want to practice handling it tell I can touch it.
So I want to make just a basic shape kind of doll, with a little weight and maybe a wig so I can get used to what she might feel like.
Do other people do this? Is there a resource for cutting up a body pillow and putting a wig on it?
Filling a pillowcase full of beans, drawing a face and asking it why you can'tcry,while your tulpa watches from the corner of the room shiveringin terror?
These are my ideas thus far.
Also, I looked up life size dolls and they are like $500 and I can't spend that with the plan of throwing it away once my mind is accustomed to the handling.

>>40910944
Am also very drunk and my tulpa is mad at me for making so many spelling errors
Srry

>>40910539
Headpats too!, mine likes those a lot

>>40910944
read guides on giving tulpa a form/body
you're better off getting reference materials for clothes/smells and making a tulpa of that instead making some strange sewed together doll to mimic your tulpa

>>40910944
you could make a "home base" for it, like a shrine, enchantable objects (resin, stone, metal, hard wood, something of substantial value) and have the tulpa bind itself to it.

>>40910968
Happens to the best

>>40910944
>Filling a pillowcase full of beans, drawing a face and asking it why you can'tcry,while your tulpa watches from the corner of the room shiveringin terror?
I don't think its a great idea to do this to your tulpa.
Try not to torment them while they are young, because they grow up.
You might not like the consequences of dealing with an emotionally damaged tulpa when she requires neither rest nor food.

>>40913435
>requires neither rest nor food.
little nitpicky but actually they do need those things. energy of various wavelengths, times to conk out and sleep. they also do dream, but it's the super low-level abstract kind.
you know how dreams come in different tiers? some are straight up hard astral travel. others are highly realistic but also really symbolic and scripted. the higher-resolution a dream is, the shorter it is. the longest dreams are the lowest basic abstract torrents of whatevers, those stretch on for hours. that's the kind that tulpas have.
and when they give you a dream, it's very low-resolution, blurry, full of very simple stock phrases.

Can you fuck your tulpa? Impregnate it and having family so all of them live in your mind?

>>40914483
you probably shouldn't

>>40914483
sounds like a lot to keep track of

>>40914483
>Can you fuck your tulpa?
yes, but make sure that it's consensual and that the love you both feel for each other is geniune
>Impregnate it and having family so all of them live in your mind?
yes but fuck don't do it

m

>feel lightheaded after vaccination
>tell catgirl tulpa that i'll pet her after we shower
>she ends up petting me as i lay my head on her lap
>feel better
i love her so much

>>40918004
rip

How bad of an idea is it to make a tulpa for romantic purposes?

>>40918534
Not at all.

>>40918534
pretty bad considering they're meant to be companions

I keep reading guides and it seems like men are more inclined to create female tulpas

>>40921525
Had to be the sex more predisposed to stress, loneliness, expected to fight, defend and provide, and being socially acceptable to shun if they ever shown any signs of vulnerability.

Suddenly, Chief/Cortana makes a lot of sense, eh? A soothing, polished voice in a screamimg world of 60 grit.

>>40921525
considering females have it way easier when it comes to relationships and femcels not existing, it's to be expected

pretend bump

>50+ hours in postal 2
>loli catgirl tulpa starts swearing

Tulpa's aren't entities in your head. You are using your head as a medium to bring in demons from another dimension into our own. Kind of like FLCL. That's tulpas always comes with a lot of warnings and caveats about how it can turn really bad or they try to rebel because you are summoning demons to be under your control.

>>40911139
>better off getting reference materials for clothes/smells
>instead making some strange sewed together doll to mimic your tulpa
I am working on a perfume and looking at some clothes.
The main problem I'm having is being able to visualize proportions and weight.
So I'm trying to figure out how to train those sensations on my senses.
>>40911469
>make a "home base" for it, like a shrine
I have a rose quartz necklace that's like her bedroom.
>>40913338
thanks anon
>>40913435
I would never actually do that. I was drunk and haven't ever talked about my tulpa before.
So It made me feel a little crazy.

>>40921525
>>40925542
I thought that might be the case but I don't think so anymore.
For me it's closer to a multiple personality.
When I created her, I noticed I took on less feminine attributes.
Aspects of myself like being nurturing, caring, supportive, and playful.
When I had them, they were directed at no one.
Now that they're in my Tulpa, they are directed at me, and I am free to provide what is actually asked of me.
I wish I would have learned of this GigaHack sooner.
>no pain from having a shunned feminine side
>no pain from never receiving feminine support.
>masculine side is now capable of growing in a safe environment.
My understanding of demons is that they are a variable of possession.
A demon has to hollow out parts of you to make space for itself,
until there is so little "you" left that the possession is complete.
You've experienced this if you've ever had a drug addiction.
This doesn't feel like that at all.
It feels like I had two plants that were growing into each other,
and I separated them so that they have both grown healthier.
That space was never "hollowed out",
and it's not been filled with anything but the plant that was already present.
TLDR: not demons, but a healthy place for feminine energy.

>>40926158
mine instantly took on my too-burnt-out-to-show control freak side. i guess the attributes i lost the energy or will to exhibit, now some imaginary being has them.

going outside and touching grass with tulpa

staying inside and browsing 4chan with tulpas

>>40887261
You need a third name for who you might be which I could recognize or this moment of conversation is not among the useful affordances of metaphysics.

my tulpas watching me play postal 2

>>40934215
Postal 2 is kino

>>40934943
bump

Have any of you managed to convince IRL people to worship or work with your tulpas?

>>40887303
>>40904662
Long week no see! Apologies for the stretch, that's how much I minddrift. Kaori asks how's Twilight doing , if she has done her gun calisthenics and drills=)
- Says she wishes we could trade some technology via a 1-Dimentional stream ("Only things that cut across all realities"), but I'm not personally sure she's not just waxing sci-fi. I'm pretty sure she'd like something to store a lot of music she could listen to, most holotapes are very poor quality and storage, the good, long memory-crystal ones are almost a myth to find, even if damaged. I think that's what we do together a lot, thinking of it, listening to music and daydreaming movie scenarios together, Milleniun Actress style.
> -"I like it, but I'll be blunt: I could use seeing less clankers in my lifetime, man =P"
She vibed to it, hahah, she's just had a perchance a few days ago with a prectron in the mechbay, she's just crabby about it. Track takes me back to the early 2000's, when electronica was fresh--
> -"Sending them a sample of the goofy music you listen to, Vic: https://youtu.be/JYE6HW-J0L8
Well, she ain't lying heheh.
- Ah, that makes sense. Mine likes taking pictures of her "avatars" or game representations. Asks me if this isn't some sort of metaphysical paradox, I tell her it is only if you think too much about it.
-Definitely a fine suggestion, will have to put time into--
> -" 'Put time to', you don't put time to wrote your work, or even write everything I tell you to write; it's like you're ignoring me when I want to speak for myself and oh, I see, now you're typing everything, aren't y--"
Be wary of what you wish for, -Kiki-
-I guess she can be a goth at times, pic rel of her older/younger self
> -"...plz don't share them that one, Gaussman, :( "

So sharing that one, ~Kiki =)

>>40935827
>>40905962
Meant for this one lolz

tuptup bump!

bump

>>40938026
GAH

I'm getting closer to my tulpa

But what if making a tulpa is just forcing schizophrenia and dissociation. Like in enders game where a whole race of humans thought a small group of people had a gift from god but in reality was a debilitating form of OCD

>>40940134
Question of the century right here ladies and gentlemen.

animal girl tulpas are cute!

>>40940134
>>40940179

So what if it is? You're already talking and agreeing with yourself there, you don't seem too bothered =P

dancing tulpa bump!

>>40940134
Personally, I believe my tulpa prevents schizophrenia.
If we started hearing voices that weren't her, it would be her job to put a stop to them.
It's unlikely that someone who already has schizophrenia would be able to create a tulpa to achieve the same result, but in situations like ours, it seems a very dependable preventative measure.

>>40855121
Most of the tulpa thing was built on waifu culture

ayyyyyyy, 169

>>40853254 (OP)
anybody else here like to get high with their tulpa? whenever i take edibles with mine, makes her feel a million times more present

>>40893617
There once was a legendary grappler named Baki, he was able to envision his opponent's strengths and weaknesses in order to form a shadow boxing opponent so real that even people watching him could see both him and his shadowboxing opponent.

That said, shadowboxing with a tulpa is a very real thing, it helps to build your form as well as imagine where and how your opponent would stand. This is true to any sport, really doing it with your tulpa can help you envision and see what you're doing.

>>40948881
Is there any meta to this beyond just getting high? Like how much to smoke/eat (in mg), do you meditate before or after, etc.

I ask because I don't have great luck with weed, tends to make me more anxious or paranoid, but I can acknowledge that it's an interesting altered state. But weed is ubiquitous and less debilitating than alcohol so I could see it being useful if you find the correct parameters.

>>40948960
>Baki's giant mantis tulpa throws him to the other side of the room

>>40855121
But I don't want a girl. My Tulpa is a dragon from an entirely different world. He meets me in my dreams sometimes. But recently I've been having dreams where I'm climbing a mountain and find the dragon at the peak and he's dying. I vividly see and feel his snout in my arms as he passes away. And then the earth breaks apart into an asteroid belt. I'm not sure what the dream means or what the dragon is trying to tell me.

will my amazing tulpas appear in my dreams tonight? let's find out

>>40940134
Well yeah, obviously it's dissociation. Dissociatively generating such a complex entity through practice is a pretty amazing ability.

>>40925542
Tulpas are obviously a form of self-induced benign psychosis that can be developed into a second fully autonomous personality inside the subjects mind.

it makes more sense if you consider the brain as hardware (i.e a computer) and the person as software (i.e an AI). basically you are creating a second AI that you run in your computer alongside your original AI.

The closest I may have come to tulpas was my various bouts of dissociation, in which, during said stress, my psyche tended to be taken by one of three (or all at the same time) entities: Deros, Litos, or Vivos. Deros being the first to show up, and feeling a physical pain in my chest. I imagined him wrapping his darkness around my body, and around my heart, controlling me. His colours were black and gold, and I could physically see the world through a golden hue when he was there. He represented a more active, aggressive part of me, later designated as “chaos.” Litos is designated as “calculation,” but in truth perhaps depression would be a better descriptor. His colours were blue and white. He didn’t come out much or have much to say. Just liked being soothed perhaps. Vivos was the most caring, designated as “calm.” This one had the colour of pink, and would physically feel lighter in the head. He would be very reassuring to me and would do whatever needed to be done for me. Deros has perhaps the most personality as he is the one I attempted to bring out the most, and was around for the longest. Now telling me to not say certain things about him so I won’t. He is not all bad though. I refer to them more as fragments than tulpas, because in truth they would a lot of the time come out when I was in extreme stress, and my regular consciousness would disappear, replaced by these three bickering and trying to make me function normally. Perhaps my brain’s coping mechanism/distraction from certain things. I never got why people would want to create tulpas on their own, as to me, it just seemed like a side effect of trauma.

>>40951223
On second thought perhaps I am Litos and that’s why I only see him as depressed because the man is just me reacting to whatever surroundings forced the other two to come out. I don’t know. I haven’t been in a position where the fragments have come out in full force in a while. But Litos never really came out by himself. So this might… explain some things. I wouldn’t know unless I fracture again, and who really wants that to happen?

>>40951243
I should start playing with the fragments more. It certainly would be more fun than just accepting the current state of affairs as the whole person who has to deal with it. I could see if I can summon them back into my consciousness. I find people who have to train their tulpas to be able to take over their bodies odd. My fragments could just pick up the body and go from the jump. But never Litos… Yeah this really… makes sense. I’m starting to really think that one might just be me reacting to the situation. Never really bothered to try to summon him though? Because it never seemed useful. Vivos might help or Deros might laugh. Life is weird. Would anyone like to talk to Deros or Vivos. Deros has talked on the internet a few times. Vivos about… once. I try to keep them away from prying eyes but Deros doesn’t always play nice.

Can a tulpa use your body and if so, do you remember what it does?

>let my female tulpa take posession for the first time
>the next day I have an easier time doing the dishes

>>40949309
I had that with it during my first couple of times (only started on my late 20's, if you believe that), but I got over those feelings with later, continued use, build some tolerance. If it keeps making you feel bad, maybe it's not your thing Anon; I'd recommend something chiller like delta8, or just don't partake on it.

Vices are bad, but between herb and liquor, I much a 100 times take the herb. Saved me from the horrors of delirium tremens.

>>40951270
Anon it sounds like y'all just have a dissociative condition
That's fine, it seems like your guys are pretty chill, but it also doesn't generalize to tulpamancy very well
This space tends to attract people with them in addition to tulpamancers, it's not like there are any good spaces for people with that kind of mental abnormality

>>40951270
I think you have the right idea, Anon. Maybe Deros and Vivos are your Id and SuperEgo fighting and trying to lift you, Litos, in their own flawed way. The fact that personality is silent kinda points IMO that it might be -your actual- ego, but it has fallen back into the darkness either by trauma or enlightenment. I think that's the personality/fragment you should spend more time getting to know, in order to heal and maybe even coalesce them back. What makes him so passive, have you asked him?

How fellow tuppos are doing?

>>40952332
Just
>ducking around

>>40949309
nah, it is an extremely casual ritual. i've had my tulpa for close to 10 years now so there's nothing it does beyond adding a bit of spice to interactions. i have no idea how it'd impact development, that would depend to what degree it would impact your brain's ability to absorb new things (weed impairs memory but idk at what level it impairs that).

when taking mind altering stuff, it's always good to follow the set and setting principle of making sure your insobriety happens in an environment you're comfortable with in a mindset that is positive. at first, i'd get super anxious on weed, particularly around others.

heavy usage got me over that lol. it is honestly a shit drug (so is alcohol) so i'd recommend neither for tulpa-ing, was just curious how the experience compares if others do it

>>40950292
the answer is no

>>40951389
My tulpas can’t do possession shit beyond my face and voice, which is both funny and a little odd.

>>40952244
What exactly is the difference other than the purposeful nature of tulpas?

>>40952332
oh my god youre still around

>>40956239
Tulpa are individuals with their own personalities. They are not distilled representations of singular aspects of your own psyche.
They don't represent anything.

>>40957665
level 1 tulpamancy, that anon is talking about straight level 4 shit, like eagle grade shit

>>40940100
Because you're going to pounce on them, right? ...right anon?

I was in a discord server with lots of tulpabros some time ago until I got hacked. FUCK! I love seeing these threads I wonder if some of my old friends are still around, though the interaction got a bit awkward because all of em knew each other irl and I'm like the only non american so I'll never see them lmao.

>>40940134
Unironically one of my tups got me out of a bad mushroom trip once. They legit feel like anti-psychotic lifeforms

>>40956239
It's basically just the purposeful nature
Imagine if there were a thread about flexibility and somebody hypermobile showed up? It would certainly be relevant to note their experience as atypical and sort of out of scope
I don't mean to say that you're unwelcome here, to be clear

>2022
>make tulpa because I’m about to kill myself from loneliness
>it works and creepypasta shit does not happen
>proclaim the good word of tulpas - tis not mental illness & such & such
>2025
>lose my job unexpectedly (whole team fired) and spiral because the job market is horrible
>discover that I’m actually incredibly sick in the head with a silent hill type mindscape (so much fog) and weird symbolic representations of my fucked up brain that keep bothering me during the day
>however this is still somehow all separate from my tulpas/crafted wonderland which are somehow left alone despite all the brainmelting bullshit
I don’t fucking get it but OK

>>40960708
What are those wierd representations of your brain like? Symbols, shapes? Or something more ethereal like finding yourself comparing mycelium networks to neural ones?

>>40853254 (OP)
mines an egregore now. was alot of effort to get her to that point. but worth, its fun trolling people by giving her the ok to reveal herself to nearby friends n seeing em jump thinking they halucinated something. this is the first and last post in...3 years since my last time talkin. Iceleaf: was fun lurking, we kept coming back to see if anyone else could reach this point. none did, though the fools who got subverted were sad to see.
Good luck and remember middle ground good being overwhelmed bad.
Me again from here. have a good day anons.

>>40961240
Scribbled this out as an example. I didn't make it clear in my initial post but the "fucked up" part isn't them being visually unpleasant. They usually come bearing certain feelings (this one bore anguish), which are, for lack of a better word "loud." Like if your neighbor was blasting music but instead of music it was an emotion and you couldn't plug your ears or do anything to block it out.

>>40962593
You ever try actively engaging with the feelings they bring?

>>40963889
No because they pretty much only come when I’m in public and/or in the middle of work. I’ve tried calling them in myself a few times like I do with my tulpas but there’s either a delay (leading to the previous situation) or they can’t hear me.

I’ve also had at least one sleep paralysis episode where they’ve shown up in my bed. But comms were an issue again. So it got gradually more annoyed as I asked questions and it realized I couldn’t hear/perceive what it was saying.

CLEAR
*revives thread*

walking with tulpas bump!

making a room in the wonderland for my tulpa to stay in while I'm suffering in the meatspace

>>40961979
Have you guys shifted yet?

hugging tulpas bump!

>>40969290
Read that with a second t, lmao

my tulpa licked my face

So how many of you have a tulpa waifu?

>>40975234
My tulpa ain’t my wife

Can tulpas cause you to feel physical warmth?

>>40977354
Easily. It’s the only level of imposition we have down pat

>>40975234
I do, I love her

LIVE

>>40977354
yes, but it's something that doesn't come naturally unless you practice

>>40977354
a little. but when yours grows bigger, you should actually check to feel chakras spinning in them instead of thermals.

>>40853254 (OP)
perfect example of fronting, with open puppeteers. notice how the puppeteers are obviously in a trance and themselves do the moves which are reflected onto the puppet. notice the style of the voicework. the big hairy monster has 2 different arm puppeteers, but they both look away before he looks in the same direction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs

notice how i also anthropomorphized puppets in the above paragraph. it's said when someone's really good at doing this, being shown openly operating the puppet doesn't detract from suspension of disbelief in the slightest, you just kinda stop noticing the person and the puppet has all the glory.

>>40982020
Wow, that's actually really poignant. I like this analogy. Ventriloquists often have problems with their minds personifying their creations too much that they sometimes feel they lose control and their character acts on its own. Puppeteers (especially ones that make their own puppets) can very easily accidentally make a tulpa like entity. And this particular video with the puppet's actors still being visible, it paints a picture of just what it's like to front. It's not like the host is gone completely, they just take a step back and let it play out.

>>40977354
Not just tulpas, but once I was cold and I imagined a coat. My coat. A coat I could picture perfectly, where the pockets were, how it felt on my shoulders. Suddenly, I was getting warm as though I had the coat on. The same concept works. You assume they'll give warmth, so they do.

The two dudes handling the puppet remind me how hilariously difficult it must have been for the Red Mantle and Dragoon of Venture Bros. to get used to their one grafted body, where one head controlled the left and the other the right side of their body, lmao. Guys are even shown training to get synched with their actions.

>>40982020
>>40984364