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Anonymous No.40874782 [Report] >>40875000 >>40878227 >>40881156 >>40881176 >>40881226 >>40881250 >>40882665 >>40884455 >>40888304 >>40888371 >>40888465 >>40888894 >>40891916 >>40908924
Twin Peaks Thread 2
That was one of the cooler threads in a while. Thanks OP and those who contributed.

I’m sure there’s plenty more to share.


Personally I know more about the movie Fire Walk With Me so if I have stuff to share it will probably be from that film.
Anonymous No.40874791 [Report] >>40874911 >>40875082 >>40895400 >>40896790
So is the ending really as simple as Laura being a dreamer and it's all just dreams?
Anonymous No.40874911 [Report] >>40874918 >>40890592
>>40874791
The end of the movie FWWM?

The end of that movie is so difficult to watch ive seen the movie many many times but i almost always turned it off before the scene in the traincar.

Apparently the original cut was even more brutal and lengthy and there were tons of walk outs in the initial screening.

To keep the spoilers to a minimum I believe the most important thing about the very end connects to ONE OF MY FAVORITE LYNCH SCENES OF ALL TIME that happens earlier in the film so Ill just leave that right here…
https://youtu.be/GsWAasVxTMM?si=uPTpkDZtLs1kRuvy
Anonymous No.40874918 [Report] >>40874925
>>40874911
End of The Revival.
Anonymous No.40874925 [Report] >>40874936 >>40874994
>>40874918
Never watched it someone else would need to tell u.

I only watched the original series and FWWM
Anonymous No.40874936 [Report] >>40874996 >>40891827
>>40874925
The fuck? How have you not watched it? It was absolute kino.
Anonymous No.40874994 [Report] >>40891827
>>40874925
You should watch it. It's 18 hours of pure Lynch kino.
Anonymous No.40874996 [Report] >>40875010 >>40875018 >>40875048 >>40875087 >>40907712
>>40874936
I want to rewatch the old stuff. Tho apparently some people are saying the new stuff is much closer related to FWWM than the original series? That actually makes me super interested.

Anyways after reading some reddit post
https://www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/comments/azlcip/all_deconstructing_twin_peaks_fire_walk_with_me/

What I would have to say is that Lynch has played with the concept that Lost Highway is built upon. Pasted from wiki about Lost Highway :
The film's surreal narrative structure has been likened to a Möbius strip, while Lynch has described it as a "psychogenic fugue" rather than a conventionally logical story.

To understand the musical structure behind a Fugue is to better understand the structure Lynch takes to storytelling.

And I believe a big part of his work relies on dream logic and he uses meditation for inspiration so dissecting every little thing to death is missing the point and lots of times stuff be that way cuz it be that way, it is a result of the process not necessarily a perfect puzzle piece crafted meticulously with total foresight.

That being said, many Lynch films involve characters who mentally break and start living in fluctuating simultaneous realities.

I think Mulholland Drive is the most straightforward example. Twin peaks way more esoteric.
Anonymous No.40875000 [Report] >>40875004 >>40883462
>>40874782 (OP)
Anonymous No.40875004 [Report] >>40875011 >>40902936 >>40907715
>>40875000
Anonymous No.40875010 [Report] >>40875117 >>40907723
>>40874996
Cont

Lynch clearly knew about hollywood mk ultra victims and how they are raped by their dads and worse and how they mentally break.

Mulholland drive is very on the nose.

Twin peaks is the gritty reality of the worst of the worst. It seems like a good theory at least that cooper is a figment of Laura’s imagination and that in reality there was no grand investigation to her murder.
Anonymous No.40875011 [Report] >>40875016 >>40902936
>>40875004
Background, earring.
Anonymous No.40875016 [Report] >>40875024 >>40883491 >>40902936
>>40875011
Anonymous No.40875018 [Report] >>40875030
>>40874996
>Tho apparently some people are saying the new stuff is much closer related to FWWM than the original series?
Definitely, The Return is far darker in tone and is a lot more in style with FWWM than it is with the original series. I'd be surprised if you dind't love it.
Anonymous No.40875020 [Report] >>40881024 >>40881304 >>40897744
Follow the white rabbit
Anonymous No.40875024 [Report] >>40875032
>>40875016
Anonymous No.40875030 [Report]
>>40875018
Thanks anon
Anonymous No.40875032 [Report] >>40877209 >>40887784
>>40875024
Anonymous No.40875046 [Report]
Lynch was real good at adding liminal spaces into his work.
Anonymous No.40875048 [Report] >>40891827 >>40907735
>>40874996
Season 3/The Return is unfathomably good.
Anonymous No.40875058 [Report]
Something worth noting is that the Director Lynch plays a character within the film who wears hearing stuff (like directors would i imagine) and he yells everything like directors would. ACTION!

So if cooper is a manifestation of Laura ‘trying to solve her own murder’ then Lynch’s chr could represent the ‘director’ of Laura’s subconscious because he seems to be the one informing cooper

Just rambling before i eat a quesadilla
Anonymous No.40875082 [Report]
>>40874791
The Ending is a rorschach test. It's done on purpose
Anonymous No.40875087 [Report] >>40875140 >>40876987
>>40874996
You certainly SHOULD watch season 3, but ALSO, keep in mind that there was also released deleted scenes from FWWM, like 2 hours of them. If you haven't seen it, shame on you
Anonymous No.40875117 [Report] >>40875136
>>40875010

No, Twin Peaks is about regular small townsfolk, not fancy pants actors and VIPs. Lurid VIP tales are really a critique of society in general. The stuff that goes on among normies in towns and cities.
Anonymous No.40875136 [Report]
>>40875117
As above so below. Same stuff happens all over but yeah ur right.
Anonymous No.40875140 [Report]
>>40875087
Shame on me why not how exciting for me i have more things to watch for the first time?
Anonymous No.40876536 [Report]
Why was Lynch never questioned about how he knew so much about the dirty secrets that lie underneath every quaint town?

This stuff is REALITY and so disturbing that Lynch needs to use dreamlogic and symbols to discuss it even though it is 100% real for many people.

Chug A Lug Donna
Anonymous No.40876691 [Report] >>40876748 >>40876767 >>40907742
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40856486/#40876098
>So Cooper = Saturn, Laura = Venus, The Arm = Mars and the Giant/Fireman = Jupiter.
No.
The Giant is the Fireman, but firemen don't start fires, they put them out. Jupiter starts fires. The Giant resides on that Purple Ocean, which is WATER.

The dwarf and 808 are Jupiter. They reside in the electricity and come from the air.

You really need to have at least a basic understanding of the Two Pillars of Qabalah/Freemasonry (you don't have to believe in any of it, but at least know what they're referring to).
One Pillar is Saturn, Mars and Mercury.
The other Pillar is Jupiter and Venus.
the "saturn pillar" is associated with water, earth and the feminine.
the "jupiter pillar" is associated with fire and air.
The reason the Giant is "a giant" is because Saturn was a Titan, who were giants, per the old myths.

Although what you said about Mike being Tyr/Mars is interesting, i didn't know that about Tyr losing a hand to Fenrir wolf. But it's interesting because Mars is on the pillar of saturn too, and Mike is ideologically on the same side as the Giant, so that tracks so far. Tyr, according to one myth, is also a son of a jotunn (the norse version of the giants), so once again that tracks with Mars/Mike being aligned with Giant/Saturn.

I was researching the tarot card "The Moon" and it was saying how there's a dog and a wolf, the dog representing civilization and the wolf representing nature. There's also two towers in the distance, one the pillar of severity (the saturn pillar) and the other the pillar of mercy (the jupiter pillar). The dog was on the side of Severity, and the Wolf on the side of "Mercy". Found that interesting because 808 and the dwarf and all criminal types in general are of the wolf type, parasites feeding off others (either spiritually as in loosh, or even just feeding off the hard work of others by robbery).

Police use dogs to uphold civilization, they don't use wolves.
Anonymous No.40876748 [Report] >>40876805
>>40876691
further observations about the Fire vs Water symbolism that goes on in the show:

When Laura Palmer's father is finally caught, the demonic entity 808 is only exorcised from his body after the sprinkler system in the prison turns on and douses him. (Other movies and tv shows have also utilized this "aversion to Water" theme, the witch in the wizard of oz, the smoke monster in "Lost" who was trapped on the island because he couldn't travel through the water, the alien species in "Dark City" )
Anonymous No.40876767 [Report] >>40876798
>>40876691
>Venus
was just thinking about "why is Venus grouped with Jupiter on the Qabalah Tree/Freemasonry Pillars"?
So the show, especially in season 3, makes reference to the Scarlet Woman, the Whore of Babylon, as was discussed briefly in the previous twin peaks thread from yesterday. While the pillar of Severity/Saturn is considered by occultists to be "feminine energy, passive", what this means is that Venus being on the other pillar, "active masculinized female", i.e. a Lilith, a radical feminist, one who tries to dominate men (like by having sex with her on top).
Anonymous No.40876798 [Report]
>>40876767
Laura dern is one of the biggest trannies out there and Lynch loves shim for it LOL
Anonymous No.40876805 [Report] >>40876849
>>40876748
>808
Is this referring to Bob?
Anonymous No.40876849 [Report] >>40876938 >>40906499 >>40907746
>>40876805
correct.
They call him Bob in the show, but yesterday in the thread we were talking about the Ace of Spades card in the show that had the weird Judy symbol on it, and as i was researching the Ace of Spades meanings i noticed that the normal looking card has "808" written on the card, which made me think that is where they got the name Bob from.
Anonymous No.40876938 [Report] >>40877041
>>40876849
Interesting connection. Huh, all I can say that comes to mind is that an 8 is like a bicycle. So if 0 symbolizes both nothing and infinity (void) then it's like two bicycles, bilocation, shadow / mirror worlds, above and below.

The way the symbol morphs into an 8 when it comes out of the bell kettle thing in season 3 as well.

8 is 2 cubed. 19 is the 8th prime. BOB=2+15+2=19. Pythagorean, 2+6+2=10. 10 fingers.
>>>/sci/16744693
On another occasion though (Booker DeWitt from Bioshock's badge number, 727) it turns out to be an encoding based on the meaning of the Hebrew letters. 262 is Palindromic, 2 is Bet, a dwelling, an enclosure, a house. 6 is vav/waw, a peg, hook, nail. 2 dwellings connected by a nail or hook? Eh, sometimes you find these encodings.

Not related but I don't feel like reposting all the images. This thread I started looking at card codes and symbolism, used in The Ring, Ergo Proxy, Twin Peaks of course.
https://archive.ph/XT8C4
https://d7vn905fd3vr65.archive.ph/T9xRq/a5fb3c2195d7d57a7f14ac2284c8ffd0f0be5d7c.png
Anonymous No.40876987 [Report]
>>40875087
there is a very long pilot for twin peaks too with lots of extra footage
Anonymous No.40877041 [Report] >>40877051 >>40877115
>>40876938
Anonymous No.40877051 [Report] >>40877060
>>40877041
Anonymous No.40877060 [Report]
>>40877051
Anonymous No.40877115 [Report] >>40877129
>>40877041
that 808 one is interesting in that "Terror" would match up with the Black Lodge/Bob policy of using Fear
Anonymous No.40877129 [Report] >>40877145
>>40877115
Terror as a proper noun.
Anonymous No.40877145 [Report] >>40877150
>>40877129
i can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me
Anonymous No.40877150 [Report]
>>40877145
Agreeing.
Anonymous No.40877163 [Report]
Wish I could make a webm of the tea kettle steam thing. It's such a pain in the ass doing it via cli.
Anonymous No.40877182 [Report] >>40877209 >>40877222
Anonymous No.40877209 [Report] >>40877296 >>40877652 >>40887784 >>40907749
>>40875032
This was for something else, but it applies here as well. 315 is obviously pi + 1. It's also a 4/8 eclipse reference, as is the name of the manager at Horne's department store that Audrey works over. "Truman Burbank" is as well.

>>40877182
Saw that on a guy's hat yesterday. Totally random.
Anonymous No.40877222 [Report]
>>40877182
Anonymous No.40877296 [Report] >>40887784
>>40877209
For the hell of it also, in this image you only really have to think about the first 4 columns. "Sumerian" eg is just ordinal x 6. So eg 202 x 6 = 1212, which is the date they gave the first jabs on and the exact midpoint between the two eclipses.
Anonymous No.40877652 [Report]
>>40877209
>315 is obviously pi + 1
maybe it means "9", which is just short of "10, the number of completion"?
Anonymous No.40878140 [Report] >>40878190
found an interesting post on reddit about the "convenience store" that the evil spirits hang out at.
https://www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/comments/14hgmwp/there_is_a_connection_between_sarah_jumping_man/
>I always see the convenience store to be a metaphor for Laura’s body (there were things for sale for someone’s convenience) so the place above the store is her mind. So all the evil done to her, including her mother’s neglect, meet up there.
Anonymous No.40878190 [Report] >>40878200
>>40878140
and then here is another cool post i found on reddit, explores (in great depth!) the idea that the show is basically all in Laura Palmer's head.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FindLaura/comments/sqwke5/find_laura_abstractintroduction/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Anonymous No.40878200 [Report]
>>40878190
>Find Laura explores the hidden narrative of Twin Peaks, wherein Season 3 is viewed not as people going about their lives, but as Laura Palmer mentally processing the trauma of her father repeatedly raping her when she was young. All that we see on the screen represents Laura trying to remember while simultaneously repressing the memories of her trauma. When she can finally accept the truth (that her dad raped her as a child), she can live as herself again.

>In other words, Laura Palmer is not literally, physically dead; she’s so traumatized that she can’t accept her reality.
Anonymous No.40878227 [Report] >>40878236 >>40878299 >>40878356 >>40878554
>>40874782 (OP)
OP from part 1 here, i considered making a part 2 but i wasn't sure what else i could add.

I think the Giant is Jupiter, the Black Lodge is a Microcosm of the Macrocosm.
Anonymous No.40878236 [Report] >>40878299
>>40878227
The Arm is Mike's Arm.
>Red Colored (Mars)
>Mike is Missing an Arm (Tyr A.K.A Norse Mars)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJgBQdCcvbI
Anonymous No.40878299 [Report] >>40878301
>>40878227
>>40878236
There are also these from some old now defunct blog.
Anonymous No.40878301 [Report] >>40878305
>>40878299
Anonymous No.40878305 [Report] >>40878312
>>40878301
Anonymous No.40878312 [Report] >>40878323
>>40878305
Anonymous No.40878323 [Report] >>40878330 >>40878600 >>40907764
>>40878312
This one doesn't have much Twin Peaks in it but i thought it was interesting nonetheless, the blog connected a lot of dots in many movies, some of them were other David Lynch movies.
Anonymous No.40878330 [Report]
>>40878323
This is the last one.

Don't really have more to share, the last thread was truly peak.
Anonymous No.40878352 [Report] >>40878393 >>40884223
It's also interesting how Laura in this photo is sitting on the Saturn Chair.

Does this mean that she is the Female Aspect of Saturn/Binah/Kali here?
Anonymous No.40878356 [Report] >>40878391
>>40878227
that is an interesting clue about the floor, but Zeus/Jupiter is a lightning god/spirit, and the Pillar of Mercy is sometimes called the Pillar of Force and likened to lightning (because of its active spirit quality, as opposed to the passive form quality of Saturn).
Saturn is also a pretty big planet, second in size to Jupiter. (a thought just occurred to me, i wonder if that green ring with the owl symbol has anything to do with Saturn's Ring?)

Saturn is also linked to Water, which is where the Giant resides, on that purple ocean rock. Water has been used to combat Fire in the show: the sprinkler system in the prison cell essentially exorcised Bob-spirit from Leland. The Giant also said he is the "Fireman". Actual firemen don't start fires, they put them out WITH WATER. Zeus/Jupiter has no link to water, he instead has links to fire (lightning) and air (pegasus, eagles, resides among the clouds). Saturn is also known as "gloomy", whereas Jupiter is known as "jovial". Only the dwarf and Bob give off joviality in the show, they're always laughing, clownish, seemingly ecstatically happy. The Giant is rather melancholy through the show.
Anonymous No.40878391 [Report] >>40878400 >>40878449 >>40907772
>>40878356
Well, Zeus is associated with lightning and the Dwarf is highly obsessed elctricity but Red isn't a "Jovian" color.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDV9mbuP1QE

What do you think about the Dwarf being Mars? He is Mike's Arm and Mike is kind of like Tyr.

It's not far fetched to link it to Norse Mythology because the show has a lot of Norse themes, here's an example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bT-pzuo0tc

Who would you associate who with? (Planetary wise).

I also think the Angel in picrel is not Laura, but rather her Guardian Angel/Fravashi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fravashi

One thing that confirms that the Angel is not Laura is the fact that Pulaski had her own Angel she summoned in the ending of FWWM.
Anonymous No.40878393 [Report] >>40884223
>>40878352
notice how she's also wearing black here, whereas the dwarf wears red, like the curtains. Saturn's color is black (gloomy colors basically, sometimes dark purple), Jupiter's is red/orange/yellow

i dont know about "Kali" aspect, from what i understand that is Mars, though you're right that Mars is on saturn pillar so it's possible Kali could be implicated
Anonymous No.40878400 [Report]
>>40878391
>correction
obsessed *with elctricity
Anonymous No.40878416 [Report] >>40878606
I was going to watch the elephant man today but I am watching godfather 2 instead
Anonymous No.40878449 [Report] >>40878460 >>40878500
>>40878391
>red isn't a "Jovian" color
yes, it is. The planet itself even has the color red (The Great Red Spot). Red is a vibrant color, associated with FIRE, as are yellow and orange. The romans worshiped Jupiter as king of their pantheon and their color was primarily red. Not sure where you're getting that red isn't a jovian color.

>dwarf being mars?
nah, don't see it. I don't know for sure if Mike represents Mars, though i admit that's an interesting parallel between Tyr and Mike (and thus Mars). Mars, to me, would represent one of the FBI or cops. Like how the pentagon shape is associated with Mars (and the number 5), thus why the Pentagon is pentagon shape, because there's long been a known association between Mars and law enforcement (and remember, Saturn Pillar is the "law and order" pillar).

>its not farfetched to link it to norse mythology
i completely agree, all mythology is linked so it makes perfect sense to find parallels with any mythology, especially in areas where the show has already used that specific mythology before.

>who would you associate who with? (planetary wise)
hmm.. i'm not sure if its a "each person gets a planet", so far i've only thought in terms of "Saturn Pillar or Jupiter Pillar". Jupiter pillar being the spirit entities like Bob, the dwarf, as well as people possessed by them (like Windom Earl, the 119 druggie lady, Leland, etc.) I do however think that Venus (which is part of the Pillar of Mercy/Jupiter) would be best exemplified in Scarlet Woman (that lady with the obvious red wig on)

>Angel
no clue on that.
Anonymous No.40878460 [Report]
>>40878449
>jews supposedly worship Saturn and wear lots of black
Anonymous No.40878500 [Report] >>40878518 >>40878570
>>40878449
Qabalistically Jupiter is Blue.
>picrel are the Qabalistic Planetary Correspondences.

>romans worshiped Jupiter as king of their pantheon and their color was primarily red.
The Red was because of Mars, even on this old Cartoon Mars has a Roman Helmet (Timestamp 2:53)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDj__2h4Nus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_(mythology)

>I do however think that Venus would be best exemplified in Scarlet Woman (that lady with the obvious red wig on).
Nah, because in Thelema the Scarlet Woman is related to Binah (The Female Sephirot of Saturn), HOWEVER someties she is associated with Ishtar who is indeed Venus, so that's odd.
Anonymous No.40878518 [Report] >>40878522 >>40878557
>>40878500
DESU the last thread already covered most things, but even then i still hate the fact we never got a concrete meaning of the show and it's all just speculation.

I also don't know what picrel's sigil is and i don't think it's really Astaroth's sigil.
Anonymous No.40878522 [Report] >>40878544
>>40878518
Why did it change too be honest (desu) to desu?
Anonymous No.40878544 [Report]
>>40878522
Theres more than that. the legume that rhymes with roy changes into onion.
Anonymous No.40878554 [Report]
>>40878227
You should really read Find Laura, the chakra parallels do a good job of making sense of the planet motifs.
Anonymous No.40878557 [Report] >>40878596 >>40879975 >>40880059
>>40878518
I explained it at some point that the point of a lynch film is not to dissect it to pieces because not even lynch himself had his work ‘figured out’ to that level.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Anonymous No.40878570 [Report] >>40878582
>>40878500
>the Scarlet Woman is related to Binah
it makes more sense to me that Venus, the Goddess of Sex, would be the Scarlet Woman, as you say, Ishtar ==> Venus.

It could be that blue was chosen for Jupiter because lightning looks blueish, but remember that Lightning is just concentrated Fire, which is normally red yellow orange.

The Pillars can also be explained (and have been) using the chinese taoist method, where the Saturn Pillar is Yin, and the Jupiter Pillar is Yang. Yin is "negative", passive, "feminine", water and earth. Yang is "positive", active, "masculine". The lightning bolt and Fire have often been used to describe Yang, which is why the Giant just doesn't strike me as "Jupiter" AT ALL.

There's even that scene (in season 3) where the Giant is floating horizontally, which to me was another clue that he's Saturn pillar oriented, because "horizontal" is often used artistically to represent the feminine, just as vertical is used to represent the male (easy to understand why, male erection is vertical, most vertical objects, like mountains, trees, towers, etc, are considered phallic shaped. Hence all the scenes showing trees, and then electrical towers, it's all masculine yang Jupiter pillar vibes).
Anonymous No.40878582 [Report] >>40878655 >>40878725
>>40878570
>It could be that blue was chosen for Jupiter because lightning looks blueish
>picrel
Anonymous No.40878596 [Report] >>40878633 >>40907780
>>40878557
I have thought about that but i don't think that's the case, all of it might be Jungian Psychology though, the wavy pattern of the Black Lodge can represent the Jungian Sea of the Unconscious and the Arm looks like a Human Nervous Sytem, it's also electric like a Human Nervous System. It might be all in Le Head.
>picrel

“The sea is the favorite symbol for the unconscious, the mother of all that lives.” - Carl Jung

“Ideas are like fish. If you want to catch little fish, you can stay in the shallow water. But if you want to catch the big fish, you've got to go deeper" - David Lynch
Anonymous No.40878600 [Report]
>>40878323
I really really like Mulholland drive

If that movie was less ‘lesbians are sexy’ then i would say its a perfect film lol
Anonymous No.40878606 [Report]
>>40878416
Elephant man is a solid lynch film and just a solid film in general. Basically lynch proving he can make a good film without relying on his ‘gimmicks’ as you might call them.

I honestly didnt even know it was a lynch movie the first time i watched it.

There’s also that movie he made about a farmer that i never watched.
Anonymous No.40878633 [Report] >>40878658
>>40878596
Oh i dont want to give off the impression that a serious amount of symbolism was not put into the films, because obviously a lot of thought does go into it…

However, similar to how wave particle duality breaks down when an observer watches which slit the photon travels through, part of ‘the magic’ is lost when we think too hard and try to connect everything and understand everything. To be an observer is to change reality.


I think there is a level of consciousness about the themes and symbols that can enhance the viewing but i do believe there is a point of ‘going too far’ that misses the point entirely.

I also do not think Lynch had planned out some major hidden themes that we can only unlock by figuring it all out.

I think actually by zooming back and thinking less than just feeling the experience you can get more sometimes.

I still remember the way certain Lynch scenes made me feel the first way I saw them and theres no amount of analyzing that can get me back there.
Anonymous No.40878655 [Report] >>40878669 >>40878763 >>40878766 >>40907784
>>40878582
um, i could find plenty of pics of a red saturn, or a purple saturn, or a beige saturn, the point is that Jupiter CAN BE associated with the color red. Cooper is sitting on Saturn chair, and wears black suit. Laura Palmer sitting on Saturn chair wears black dress. When she's sitting on Venus chair she's wearing red dress.

>but red means Mars!
but the statue isn't of mars, it's of venus. We're shown Black and White floor, thus we know we're in a binary mode of thought. Saturn and Venus. Which is the clue that we're looking at the Two Pillars, Saturn/Severity and Jupiter/Venus/Mercy.
Black clearly symbolizes Saturn, thus Red symbolizes Jupiter/Venus/Mercy.
Anonymous No.40878658 [Report] >>40878763 >>40878766 >>40878922 >>40896271
>>40878633
Also people like Lynch know people will be analyzing their work for symbols.

How often do authors hear people explain their work and they say actually thats totally wrong i just did that because X Y and Z is wasnt because what u just said.

Artists also understand the subjective nature of viewing art and how sometimes things mean different things to different people and it can all be simultaneously ‘correct’ because it is a subjective experience.

Also, i believe Lynch himself would often tell people to not look too much into his work. He even hated the idea of people watching his films over and over again looking to unlock it.

When asked about his films deeper meanings he would often give a few big clues but leave a lot vague. I dont think he did this because he is a gatekeeper i think he genuinely has left things open for interpretation because the magic is actually more powerful that way. You let the art become what it wants to become.
Anonymous No.40878669 [Report]
>>40878655
>red dress
oops, apparently she's not wearing red, just sitting over by dwarf, who does wear red suit.
Anonymous No.40878725 [Report]
>>40878582
>Jupiter is blue
because of him being a sky god, sky is blue. Referencing then his "Air" quality, and less his aspect as fire/lightning. But since the show has a heavier focus on Fire (walk with me), seems they chose red for the dwarf in the red room. Black and white zigs could be code for "electricity" as in tv static powered by electricity? (i think one of those 5 hr youtube videos makes mention of that)
Anonymous No.40878763 [Report] >>40878770
>>40878655
Ah so you are going with the 2 Pillars, but what about the Middle Pillar?

>>40878658
>Also people like Lynch know people will be analyzing their work for symbols.
I think that's why he had the scene with Lil in FWWM, the whole scene was about Symbolism and how the communicate with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ug-p6vg8vI
https://twinpeaks.fandom.com/wiki/Lil

>i think one of those 5 hr youtube videos makes mention of that
"Do not say a little in many words, but a great deal in few." - Pythagoras
Anonymous No.40878766 [Report] >>40880126
>>40878655
Ah so you are going with the 2 Pillars, but what about the Middle Pillar?

>>40878658
>Also people like Lynch know people will be analyzing their work for symbols.
I think that's why he had the scene with Lil in FWWM, the whole scene was about Symbolism and how the communicate with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ug-p6vg8vI
https://twinpeaks.fandom.com/wiki/Lil

>i think one of those 5 hr youtube videos makes mention of that
"Do not say a little in many words, but a great deal in few." - Pythagoras
Anonymous No.40878770 [Report] >>40878785
>>40878763
"Do not make a 3 min movie, make a 3-series and a movie movie." David Lynch
Anonymous No.40878785 [Report]
>>40878770
Movie that is a prequel to the series that many won't understand, and then make a missing pieces after with cut scenes which are even more uninteligeble.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4msytla9wYU
>What did David Lynch mean by this?
Anonymous No.40878922 [Report] >>40879046
>>40878658
It's worth pointing out that Lynch has stated that there is a correct interpretation of Twin Peaks but yes, it shouldn't be what fans ultimately fixate on or present to others as a grand unifying solution because doing so not only diminishes the mystery, but it takes the soul and human element out of the equation. Lynch's movies are no different than paintings in that way: what matters is how you feel about the art, and your engagement and experience, what you personally take away from it. Twin Peaks is a lot like Solaris in that fashion: endless questions and perspectives that reveal more about us than anything else.

The ending reinforces this: does Cooper ever save Laura? Has he already reached a happy ending and have we not just realized it? Or is he still in the process of it? If it is a dream, can we trust that Laura really is the dreamer? Is she having someone else's dream, or is someone else having her dream? At what point does the dream actually begin? Does Laura wake up? Does she die? The answer is up to you.
Anonymous No.40879046 [Report] >>40879284
>>40878922
>It's worth pointing out that Lynch has stated that there is a correct interpretation of Twin Peaks.
Would Frost know this correct interpretation by any chance? Why stay silent on it? Hasn't it been nearly a decade since The Return last aired and couldn't they at least give a hint?
Anonymous No.40879275 [Report]
Bird cage symbolism
Anonymous No.40879278 [Report]
Anonymous No.40879284 [Report] >>40879352 >>40879428
>>40879046
Frost has half of the interpretation because Frost was the diehard occult /x/-pilled half of Twin Peaks and the books are living proof of that. Lynch makes up the dream-like psychological surrealist half. Together, we have Twin Peaks. Frost can't reveal the true meaning of Twin Peaks because TP is uniquely a Frost production as much as it is a Lynch production. If he were to say it out loud, it would just be his input, not Lynch's.

TP is something of an anomaly in that sense because you can mostly figure out the true meaning of Lynch's movies, but Twin Peaks' incredibly collaborative nature makes it something that the average person can't answer unless they devote themselves fully to what inspired Lynch and Frost. The Return is very meta in how it self-references Lynch's previous works, after all.

Personally, I think Find Laura got the closest to solving Twin Peaks. The biggest hint is always what is in plain sight.
>We live inside a dream.
Anonymous No.40879352 [Report] >>40879428
>>40879284
If you had to ask me, the correct interpretation of Twin Peaks is that it exists as Laura's dream, a product of her mind trying to make sense of her father's abuse. Eventually, Laura can't take it anymore and "dies", running away from Twin Peaks and creating a new identity. She can no longer repress her childhood trauma and eventually comes to terms with it.

However, this itself is partially a dream reality: the original world of Twin Peaks up until the ending (when Cooper prevents Laura from dying, changing the timeline) is actually Laura's dream when Audrey is now the dreamer. Audrey exaggerates the real world and plays up the drama and tension in the town. Things are akin to a soap opera because that's what Audrey wants her life to be like and perceives the controversies and horrors of the community through that lens. It's why she makes things about herself, why she throws herself at Cooper, etc. What we see of Audrey in The Return is the closest we get to the ACTUAL real world and how Audrey has been living in it the whole time. A mundane and boring normal life where Audrey gets old and finally "wakes up". Her waking up is simultaneous to the actual Laura "waking up". Audrey's dream is over and Laura is finally beginning the process of ending her nightmare.
Anonymous No.40879428 [Report] >>40879496
>>40879352
>>40879284
In Laura's dream, Dale Cooper is Laura's shining knight who, through many trials and tribulations, manages to finally save her: the ending of the Return leads to FWWM's ending where Laura is met with an angel. She reaches her salvation and heals from her trauma. This is how Laura feels internally about what occurs in the real world as an adult, something that we never see throughout all of Twin Peaks.

But when Audrey dreams Laura's dream (the soap opera world where Laura died) and everything is filtered through Audrey Vision, Dale is now a reflection of the positive aspects of the men in her life, as well as what she wishes they were like. If there ever was a real Dale Cooper, he was probably the federal agents or police investigators hired by Laura's father and sent to investigate Laura's disappearance, and then the authorities who eventually solved where Laura ended up as an adult decades later.
Anonymous No.40879496 [Report]
>>40879428
Maybe audrey went out for coffee once with some young charming agent who questioned her about the case
Anonymous No.40879902 [Report] >>40880015
I just realized this song released in August 1990 months after the premiere look up the lyrical content it was also written last minute on a pizza box wink wink now on display at a hard rock café
Anonymous No.40879975 [Report]
>>40878557
>not even lynch himself had his work ‘figured out’
It's terrifying to think maybe he was channeling something. Like, all of these details are related to all this other stuff because it's all channeling the same demonic/angelic energy?
Anonymous No.40880015 [Report]
>>40879902
1979
Anonymous No.40880059 [Report]
>>40878557
LOL yeah this haha and Anno made end of Evangelion because it looked kewl

Sometimes a guy is just pissed off because a redhead is ahrd to get along with and his dad talks to his anima hypnotic- I mean to another teenage girl thats a clone of his mom instead of him so he decides everyone should die and get merged together in the black moon and lilith is nailed to the cross with a mask over her face based ona cool looking christian painting from 1123 AD with a lance through her heart just like in that one obscure tempalr story about him skinning his wife and stabbing a double sided lance through her as a mockery of the crucifixion like LMAO how did THAT get in there??!?! LOLPIRANDOM HAHAHA it's cuz it looked kewl

BRO

Sometimes bro just mad cuz MUH DICK and these fucking women like happy wife happy life wtf??? okay??? IT LOOKS COOL.

JUST LIKE A DOUBLE R LOOKS COOL AND ISN'T A REFERENCE TO THE TZADIKIM NISTARIM AND DOUBLE LIVES, BECAUSE 18 IS CHAI IN HEBREW. NO WAY

DOUBLE R IS RIDICULOUSLY RADICAL AND TOTALLY COOL
LOL RANDOM Y NOT
Anonymous No.40880126 [Report] >>40880773
>>40878766
Which episode was the blue rose in? I missed it somehow.

Whenever I think of the moon in a particular way, and hold it in mind, within a week or so I'll either encounter or be given a blue rose. It can be a picture on a wall, it can be a candle, it can be a fake rose, but it will happen. And usually someone will come and give it to me or lead me to it.
Anonymous No.40880773 [Report] >>40880790 >>40880808
>>40880126
>Which episode was the blue rose in? I missed it somehow.
It's in the Twin Peaks Movie, Fire Walk With Me.
And don't confuse it with Missing Pieces, if you haven't watch Missing Pieces after Fire Walk With Me.

Also, Fire Walk With Me will mess you up. Some say it's even Lynch's best work.
Anonymous No.40880790 [Report] >>40880818
>>40880773
Okay, that explains it. I didn't watch either. Don't know why, generally I'm a completionist.

>Also, Fire Walk With Me will mess you up. Some say it's even Lynch's best work.
Glad this thread was here to tell me. I will watch it.
Anonymous No.40880808 [Report] >>40880832 >>40880842
>>40880773
Should I watch the "Extended version"? I would assume so.
Anonymous No.40880818 [Report] >>40880892
>>40880790
The ending is pure kino.

No Spoilers Though :)
Anonymous No.40880832 [Report] >>40880892
>>40880808
I haven't watched that cut so i do not know, i might today though, it's 3 hours.
Anonymous No.40880842 [Report] >>40880892
>>40880808
I think the extended cut mixes FWWM with the cut content in Missing Pieces so yeah, i think you should watch that one.
Anonymous No.40880892 [Report]
>>40880818
>>40880832
>>40880842
Alright, thanks.
Anonymous No.40881024 [Report]
>>40875020
>White Rabbit.
Where does it lead?
Anonymous No.40881112 [Report] >>40882519 >>40884138
Anonymous No.40881156 [Report] >>40885705
>>40874782 (OP)
New info on judy, from the other thread.
>>40881061
Judy means "jewess", simple as. Jewess, jewess, jewess. And her ways, while on earth, incarnated, are always unspeakably grievous. If you are not evil, or part of their veneration/cult beliefs. And that's ONE of the reasons you can't talk about her. I, CERTAINLY WON'T TALK ABOUT HER, AND I ALSO DON'T WANT TO HERE ABOUT HER CURRENT ACTIVITIES/GOINGS ON. But I can't actually avoid it. Her goings on are weaved into nearly every piece of media in history, unvarying ways, with varying levels. Cooper got his anima possessed by her, and then Mr. C arose. That's what that is about. He absorbed some Judy, and started working in different dimensions as the shadow self of her. This bled back in to different realities. Dougy is imbecilic because of the same reason. And, only when he sees the clip from "sunset boulevard", does he awaken. SB is a movie about another Judyan femme fatale. One in which the lady writes a script about a JEWESS princess femme fatale, Salome. He here that they are to NOT call NORMA any more. She's more trouble than she's worth. I can't reveal anymore about why that woke Cooper up. But his mission failed, anyway. His mission was NOT to retroactively save the Laura character. And THAT'S WHY THE LAURA DOPPLEGANGER SCREAMED (accidental caps lock) at the end, and why mister coop was still confused at the ending. Nothing was resolved, and the stories still going on. And, it's not looking good. I can't reveal more, and I don't want to bum anybody out, but Judy is still very strong. And world domination is still the goal.
Anonymous No.40881176 [Report]
>>40874782 (OP)
Chalfont/Tremond
>Frances Evelyn Goffman was born January 1, 1919, in Mannville, Alberta, to Russian Jewish immigrant parents, Ann (née Averbach) and Max Goffman, and was raised in Dauphin, Manitoba. Her younger brother was the sociologist Erving Goffman.
A jewess. And why was the new owner named "alice". This is ANIMA related. Judy still occupied the psyche. That's what the house was. And that's what the Laura doppelganger was screaming for.

Also, the fact that the Pierre boy is a younger Lynch, is important. It illustrates that Lynch, himself, is jewish, through the mother line. And he is part of the anti-nomian sabbatean/frankist/Judyan sect. The ones that fuck their kids, and pass them around, and kill them, sometimes.They mix into gentile blood lines, to create crypto jewish lines. There's a reason they're french, as well, because this ties into the Holy Grail bloodline. And wars on particular bloodlines.
Anonymous No.40881226 [Report] >>40882701 >>40885526 >>40887350 >>40888241 >>40889140
>>40874782 (OP)
In another movie, about the same Judyan/frankist cult, the child ritual sex victim, jewish protagonist Donnie, was molested, and a dissociative entity called "Frank" (Jacob Frank, anti-nomian), was revealed to be the fruit thereof. They don't overtly let on that he was abused, but that is the occult reality. Then, he goes after abusers of others. He did the opposite of Laura. She just became a whore. That's why retroactively saving her, didn't work (ONE of the reasons). She was still in trouble, in other timelines. Because she was the REAL, chosen Judyan messianic whore entity, unrepentant of evil. Impossible to fix, using timeline related endeavors. And her activities would have gotten MUCH more unspeakable/destructive. That's what bowie ran into. Notice he had a Christian Cross on, by the way. Judy is IRREDEEMABLE EVIL. That's what she represents. The INFERNAL feminine. Not the "playfully naughty" feminine. Something you can manage. She's the destroyer. And she destroyed Cooper, for more than half of his life, by the "end" of the series. And that's why Lynch is a bad guy. One of the reasons. He put a positive spin on the whore. And he does this irl, as well. And notice that there are implications that irl Judy is also a whore. There can be no otherwise. Notice the ears are similar to the Judy card.
Anonymous No.40881250 [Report] >>40881327
>>40874782 (OP)
Male female judy. The ears. Same thing.
Anonymous No.40881304 [Report]
>>40875020
That's exactly what you DON'T want to do. Jews made that movie. If you become the hero, then you become the human sacrifice, as well. That's the way it goes. You'll absorb Judy-ism yourself, and you will end up split into Mr. C and Dougy, and you will roam the realms, as inauthentic selves.
Anonymous No.40881327 [Report] >>40882167
>>40881250
Jack Frost?
Anonymous No.40882167 [Report] >>40882379
>>40881327
Frank. Like Jacob Frank. And Anne Frank. Barney Frank. Frank comes from France, etymologically.
Anonymous No.40882379 [Report] >>40882475
>>40882167
i wish murdoch would stop schizo posting and make some comedy again mang
Anonymous No.40882475 [Report]
>>40882379
Me too.
Anonymous No.40882519 [Report] >>40882627 >>40883124
>>40881112
this actually annoys me how absolutely wrong it is.
>the Giant is Jupiter because Jupiter is a big planet!
and then completely ignores all the esoteric/occult clues, merely to focus on the physical planets themselves and their size lol

Saturn is the entity that gives Form to our existence, which is why Cooper sits there, because he's from Earth where everything has form.
The cup of coffee is a reference to Cups of Tarot, i.e. the emotions and intuitions. That the dwarf can manipulate the flow of it (slowing it down, speeding it up) is a reference to being outside the control of Time (which is another Saturn quality).
Saturn is associated with water and earth (hence why the astrological sign of Capricorn is a fishgoat ascending out of the water onto a mountain).
The Giant is friendly towards Cooper and trying to help him, he's not trying to help the dwarf.
Mars and Saturn are on the same Pillar of Severity, so why would the dwarf (who you say is Mars) be trying to harm Cooper/Saturn? It makes no sense.
Venus is on the Pillar of Mercy, just as Jupiter is, which is why the dwarf symbolizes Jupiter/Red/Venus.
Pillar of Severity symbolizes Form and Time, Law and Order.
Pillar of Mercy symbolizes Force and Unbridled Will (this is why all the clown pictures in the show are all owned by criminal minded people, like Leo, because clowns are a Pillar of Mercy archetype, unbridled Will to the point of insanity)
Anonymous No.40882627 [Report]
>>40882519
>Saturn is associated with water and earth
>coffee cup is reference to Cups of Tarot
and the tarot Cups are the element Water, i.e. Saturnian. Just as Pie, a circular shape, is reference to Pentacles, Earth.
Lynch is throwing clues all over the place to indicate that Twin Peaks has a heavy theme about Water+Earth vs Fire+Air, aka Pillar of Severity vs Pillar of Mercy.

Just look at Mr. Horne, when he was bad at the beginning of the show, he was smoking cigars, but AS SOON as he decided to change for the good, he stopped smoking (because smoking is Fire and Air).
Anonymous No.40882665 [Report] >>40883124 >>40895177
>>40874782 (OP)
finally a good thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iHt1UQK4e4
Anonymous No.40882701 [Report] >>40891070
>>40881226
Yet the protagonists of both Darko movies are compelled to accept their death... programming script, or symbolically shedding the amnesiac host? You serve their ends either way...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDf80nn53VE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r8KR-v11yY
Anonymous No.40883124 [Report] >>40883420 >>40883458
>>40882519
>The cup of coffee is a reference to Cups of Tarot.
Nah it's Oil that's also present at the Grove's Puddle, remember Earle's Black Teeth?
>picrel
The Coffee turned into Oil/Goo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab-l6vhq5vc

You keep forgetting or ignoring the Middle Pillar...

>>40882665
That link was on the Last Thread.
Anonymous No.40883420 [Report] >>40883481
>>40883124
>Cooper has been drinking Black Oil the entire time to enter the Black Lodge
>oMg iT maKEs pErFEcT senSE!
and that still wouldn't explain his obsession with Pie.
Nor does it explain why Cooper's teeth didn't turn black, or his face ghostly white.
>the coffee was black, just like the Oil/Goo at the Grove's Puddle was black, and Saturn's color is black, PROOF that Saturn is the Black Lodge and the Red Dwarf is Mars and is the Good guy!
is my impersonation of you. You ignore all the other clues and forget that you have to tie in all the clues together, not just hyperfixate on one clue and come up with the first explanation that makes any sense.
Anonymous No.40883458 [Report] >>40883462 >>40883513
>>40883124
>coffee is oil
Cooper drank coffee all the time, not just in the Red Room.
The dwarf wasn't turning the coffee into oil, it was still coffee, he was just manipulating the coffee, slowing it down, speeding it back up. Time is an element often dealt with in the show. Like how the spirits in the Red Room speak in a jilted fashion, as if their voices had been recorded spoken backwards and then played forward. (but this doesn't effect Cooper, because he's from Earth where Time flows in one direction. But time is only linear for Pillar of Severity, because of Saturn, the God of Time. Jupiter and the Pillar of Mercy operates outside of Time, hence why events from the future can be known beforehand while you're in the Red Room).
Anonymous No.40883462 [Report] >>40883487
>>40883458
See: >>40875000

Coffee cuts bloodflow to your brain by ~50% and is a hypnotic. It turns you into an automaton.
Anonymous No.40883481 [Report] >>40883513 >>40883571 >>40883590 >>40883602
>>40883420
>Nor does it explain why Cooper's teeth didn't turn black.
He didn't drink the Black Goo Oil, only regular coffee.

>and that still wouldn't explain his obsession with Pie.
It's not just any Pie, it's CHERRY Pie.
https://m.farms.com/ag-industry-news/10-interesting-facts-about-cherries/9

>Nor does it explain why Cooper's teeth didn't turn black, or his face ghostly white.
Fear and Love open the doors as Briggs said, Earle went in the Dark Dag Dugpa way, some believe the rocks on the puddle were chalk (hence the white face), it may also be a reference to the Pale Horse again and Death (he did die in the Black Lodge when his Soul Fire got stolen).

>You ignore all the other clues and forget that you have to tie in all the clues together, not just hyperfixate on one clue and come up with the first explanation that makes any sense.
Do you even know what a Lodge is? It's a Microcrosm of the Macrocosm, and the show already has plenty of Thelemic and Qabalistic Themes (which is why i only consider more traditional Qabalistic correspondences).

Jupiter has always been Blue, and Mars Red in this regard.
http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Tree_of_Life
http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Tree_of_Life:Colors
Jupiter is not Red/Orange/Yellow just because you feel like it...

The two pillars of Freemasonry are not the Qabalistic Pillars, those would be the 3 lights, THERE ARE 3 PILLARS, not just the two opposites.

>The reason the Giant is "a giant" is because Saturn was a Titan
Giant and Titan do not mean the same thing.
A Titan is someone of greath strength, a Giant is someone of great size.

The Green Ring is a formica ring, electrical insulation material, because as the Dwarf said, they are Electric/Etheric in nature.

The Giant may still not be Jupiter, but he isn't Saturn either, BOB is starting to feel like Jupiter, the long white hair like Zeus and his promiscuity is very much like Zeus.
https://thehistorianshut.com/2023/05/10/the-many-mates-of-zeus/
Anonymous No.40883487 [Report] >>40885384
>>40883462
>Dale Cooper is wearing a brown overcoat and a tie and standing
>Gematria 386 English Qabala 511 Squares 6622
>Proof that Dale Cooper is actually a tranny and that the show is talking about bagels and the importance of cleaning your couch.
Anonymous No.40883491 [Report] >>40885384
>>40875016
>blue uniform
>blue means Jupiter
>Smiling
>Jovial
>Shelly is Jupiter, Shelly is the Giant
>bagel
Anonymous No.40883513 [Report] >>40883571 >>40883661
>>40883481
cont.
>the coffee was black, just like the Oil/Goo at the Grove's Puddle was black, and Saturn's color is black, PROOF that Saturn is the Black Lodge and the Red Dwarf is Mars and is the Good guy!
Color Correspondences are a very valid pointer from an Esoteric point of view.

>>40883458
>he was just manipulating the coffee, slowing it down, speeding it back up.
Doesn't make sense, time is not bound to one object, if he messed with time like that then Cooper would slow down to.

>Like how the spirits in the Red Room speak in a jilted fashion
Because it's a parallel world like i suggested in the previous thread, anti matter, bizarro world, everything is reversed, even speech.

But one thing about time you do get right is what the Dwarf mentions here.
>Is it future or is it past
This question is also asked by Mike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPIUjGMPQDQ
This also ties with Retrocausality, how the future actualy affects the past and vice versa. The uni-verse is in a Loop. Time is a Flat Circle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrocausality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch

The PIE my also be THIS Pie.
>picrel
Anonymous No.40883571 [Report] >>40883674 >>40885691 >>40885712
>>40883481
>>40883513
Cont.
It really pisses me off that we can only speculate and throw shots in the dark, Lynch was kind of an asshole for saying "there is a correct way to interpret twin peaks" but then never elaborate on it.

This whole interpretation of "there is no meaning lmao" is complete bullshit, we clearly see esoteric figures like the Scarlet Woman, this isn't just some subconscious Jungian meme.

He was either some master class Troll or a Gatekeeper, or even both.
Anonymous No.40883590 [Report] >>40883697 >>40883697
>>40883481
>he didn't drink the black goo oil, only regular coffee
you JUST said that the coffee in the Red Room was oil/black goo. Now you're saying it wasn't.

>cherry pie
actually he had other pie too, huckleberry i think it was. Pie is the key word, because it's pentacle shaped. Just as coffee is a Cup. Lots and lots of tarot references in the show.

>the rocks on the puddle were chalk
not sure what rocks you're referring to. The sycamore trees surrounding the puddle were white (because dead). The forest itself is called GHOSTwood, ghosts are portrayed as pale white. Pillar of Mercy is Yang, Yang is "white on the outside, black circle in the center", just as the puddle is "white on the ouside (white sycamores) with black center (oil)", just as Windom Earl's face was white on the outside, black center (teeth). Windom's name implies "Wind", Air, Zeus/Jupiter are gods of air and lightning (Fire walk with me).

>giant and titan do not mean the same thing
oh yes they most certainly do. That's why they called the Titanic after the Titans, because it was so gigantic.

>Jupiter has always been blue
and orange and yellow and sometimes even red.

>Freemasonry and Qabalistic Pillars arent the same
yes they are. They're literally talking about the same stuff. Same with Yin Yang.

>as the Dwarf said, they are electric/etheric in nature
which is a JUPITER Pillar of Mercy quality, not a Pillar of Severity/Saturn/Mars quality. Saturn and the Pillar of Severity is FORM, which is why Binah is said to "rule Malkuth" because Malkuth is Earth and Earth has Form. Jupiter and Mercy has no form, it is energetic, subconscious, oceanic (which is why Neptune is often added to Pillar of Mercy, Neptune is god of the ocean)

>The Giant may still not be Jupiter, but not Saturn either
the Titan is most certainly Saturn. He calls himself the Fireman, meaning he puts out fires. Water puts out fires, like the sprinkler system exorcised 808 from Leland. And Saturn is associated with Water)
Anonymous No.40883602 [Report]
>>40883481
>BOB is starting to feel like Jupiter, the long white hair like Zeus and his promiscuity is very much like Zeus
yes, very possible. And isn't he also known as a father figure of some sort? Or am i thinking of Odin? because if zeus/jupiter is also known as father figure, then Leland being the host of 808 would make sense.
Anonymous No.40883661 [Report]
>>40883513
>if he messed with time like that then Cooper would slow down to.
not necessarily, we are Earth bound creatures that only know of linear Saturnian time. The Red Room is a different set of rules. But the clues are that "something" is going on with Time in the Red Room. The way they speak, even the way they move, is like it's being played in reverse but made to (try to) sound like it's being played forward normally.

>everything is reversed, even speech
the speech wasn't reversed though, we could still understand it. They actually did a couple scenes where the speech WAS reversed (one example i remember offhand was when Major Garland was captured and given a truth drug by Windom Earl. He spoke a phrase backwards). The dwarf and Red Room Laura weren't talking backwards. It was more like they spoke backwards then replayed that on a tape recorder backwards, so that it then played "forwards", but because it was spoken backwards originally it came out sounding weird. Double-backwards, not just single backwards. And the ability to see the future accurately points to the place being outside Time.

>the pie is talking about mathematical pi
except where else does pi fit in?
>the hotel room key number!
again, how is that important at all? Not seeing how it ties into the occult. Maybe if this movie was about the movie "Pi"

At least my theory ties in well with all the other tarot occult references. Yours branches into math and not sure how much math is actually in the Twin Peaks stuff
Anonymous No.40883674 [Report] >>40883697
>>40883571
maybe it was like that guy who made Eyes Wide Shut (i think that's the movie anyways), who according to the conspiracy theory, made the movie vague because he was trying to reveal to the public how the evil elite operate, but was then killed because he made it too obvious. So maybe Lynch had to make it suuuuuper vague and convoluted to escape the elite hit crew
Anonymous No.40883697 [Report] >>40883703 >>40883711 >>40883816 >>40883883
>>40883590
>Now you're saying it wasn't.
No, it turned into goo when the dwarf did his hand thing, the theme of engine oil is present in the whole series.

>Pie is the key word, because it's pentacle shaped.
It may also be Pi which is Esoteric in it's own significance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFmWhwyA0NU

>>40883590
>not sure what rocks you're referring to
>see photo below this post

If earle stuck his face in there to drink, he would've gotten some dust from that small rock formation on his face no?

>That's why they called the Titanic after the Titans, because it was so gigantic.
They called it Titanic because it was a sacrifice to Saturn, the Titan sumbarine that sunk recently wasn't large, and it belonged to a company called ocean-GATE.

In Dante's world Satan (Saturn) is stuck on an Ice Lake. Hell (like Norse Hel) is a cold place (Antartica).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante%27s_Satan
https://norse-mythology.org/cosmology/the-nine-worlds/helheim/

>and orange and yellow and sometimes even red.
The planet itself yes, but esoterically no.

>yes they are.
No they are not, what do you think the three pillars/lights in the middle of the lodge mean?
>picrel

>the Giant is most certainly Saturn.
Saturn is bearded and associated with Time and Death, he is also very petty, the Fireman doesn't fit that.

>the speech wasn't reversed though, we could still understand it.
It was reversed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-WW8V8nD5E

>the hotel room key number!
Didn't mention that.

>Yours branches into math and not sure how much math is actually in the Twin Peaks stuff
Twin Peak, Twin PEAKS
>See other photo

>>40883674
Kubrick was his name, and i guess that makes sense, he saw what happened to him and didn't want the same fate.
Anonymous No.40883703 [Report] >>40883748
>>40883697
These rocks
Anonymous No.40883711 [Report] >>40883721 >>40884234
>>40883697
>Yours branches into math and not sure how much math is actually in the Twin Peaks stuff
>Twin PEAKS
Like Sine Peaks, note how the peaks here also have a double below, as above so below/mirror world type deal.
Anonymous No.40883721 [Report]
>>40883711
This is what i mean by the Twin PEAKS, paralel world, like the Black Lodge, Bizarro World, Anti Matter World.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro_World
Bizarro World Earth is even a Saturn Cube.
Anonymous No.40883725 [Report] >>40883999
This is what i mean by the Twin PEAKS, paralel world, like the Black Lodge, Bizarro World, Anti Matter World.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro_World
Bizarro World Earth is even a Saturn Cube.

>messed up picrel ffs
Anonymous No.40883748 [Report] >>40883776
>>40883703
are those rocks? i can't tell, maybe ash? but still, the white exterior, black center motif is reminiscent of Yang symbol, which is also associated with FIRE AND AIR. (and the idea that Yang is Pillar of Mercy isn't my own concoction, this is pretty standard teachings that i read about. And the show makes lots of reference to saturn and jupiter, and how they're "opposites", which sounds like they're talking about the Pillars/Yinyang systems because those too are built around the theory of opposites)

Although a really big snag in my theory is that the White Lodge entrance has gold liquid, not sure why it would be gold. Lead is usually associated with Saturn, and the goal (at least in alchemy) is to "turn lead into gold, to turn Saturn into the noble one" (the noble one i always thought was Jupiter since he's the "king" of the olympians). Possible that Lynch simply isn't referring to alchemy terminology, and is using gold in a different sense (most likely to mean "soul", which only earth incarnated humans have. 808 and the dwarf are spirits, but they don't have a soul since only Saturn/Formal can give that. )
Anonymous No.40883776 [Report] >>40884023
>>40883748
>are those rocks?
Yes, wiki says it's a "rocky pool".
https://twinpeaks.fandom.com/wiki/Glastonbury_Grove
Anonymous No.40883816 [Report] >>40883871 >>40883904
>>40883697
>oil
i think oil was chosen to represent black lodge because it burns, Fire, Smoke. Coffee doesn't do that, so it's closer to being "water" in that sense, which remember, coffee is MADE WITH WATER.

>pi is esoteric in its own significance
yes, i've seen the movie Pi, but that doesn't mean that Lynch or Frost were deliberately incorporating that stuff into the show. I'm asking if there's any other evidence you have that would help lend credence to your theory. If it's just a lone example, i think my theory works better since it ties into tarot and qabala better, of which there are many examples.

>if early stuck his face in there to drink, he'd get dust on his face no?
no, he wouldn't get dust on his face in that manner. But yes he did drink the water, that much is obvious. Oil doesn't turn your face white though (as far as i know?) so it seems more like it was symbolic, that he was "turning into a ghost, a soulless spirit", like 808 or the dwarf

>they called it Titanic because it was a sacrifice to saturn
please don't be this stupid.
>AI Overview: The name "Titanic" was chosen for the ship because it reflected the vessel's intended size and strength. The name is derived from the Titans of Greek mythology, who were powerful deities associated with great size and power.

>Satan (Saturn) is stuck on an Ice Lake
yea, because Saturn is WATER. Jupiter is FIRE. Cold vs Hot. Dwarf and 808 are fire demons.

>esoterically no
esoterically yes, even. It really just depends where you're reading it. I see more orange than i do blue, sometimes yellow. I honestly just don't think red was chosen as the color for the room and dwarf to indicate the "Jupiter color" but rather to indicate something else, like carnality, or again, Fire.
If there was a statue of Mars in the Red Room, i'd be ALL FOR the idea that the red symbolized Mars, but since the statue is of Venus, and because we know already from other clues that qabala-freemasonry is being used as source...
Anonymous No.40883871 [Report] >>40884089
>>40883816
>i think oil was chosen to represent black lodge because it burns.
The Oil is Ichor.
>picrel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichor

>I'm asking if there's any other evidence you have that would help lend credence to your theory
Cooper's Room Key is 315 and Pi is 3.14

>please don't be this stupid.
>AI Overview
Lmao, you know that AI Overview can change if you refresh the search a few times, it's not static and it's so bad it even became a meme.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sites/google-search-ai-overviews-gemini-ai-overview

I think the Red Curtains are a Plasma/Firey veil, notice how they wave like an open flame in Season 3's intro. (Timestamp 1:07)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHR8l_bcl_k
Anonymous No.40883883 [Report] >>40884026
>>40883697
>Saturn is bearded and associated with Time and Death, he is also very petty.
he's also associated with being a hermit (Fireman lives by himself alone on that purple ocean place), he's associated with water and earth, like the Fireman, is the God of Karma (i.e. justice and repaying good and bad deeds, just like Cooper, who helps the innocent and goes after the guilty). Per the myths Jupiter overthrew Saturn and banished him to underworld, is it so farfetched to imagine that the winner of the war enacted a smear campaign against their former rival?

>it was reversed
no it wasn't.
https://youtu.be/kDTxN4dbN3E?t=80
it sounds weird yes, but you CAN STILL UNDERSTAND THE DWARF. It sounds jilted, but it's spoken "forward".

here is an ACTUAL example of speech spoken backwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEbWhrkagfY

Like the woman in season 3, "1 1 9!!!"
it's another reference that time operates "differently" with the Red Room and the Fire spirits (the woodmen, 808, dwarf, etc.)

>the hotel room key
>didn't mention that
so you're saying you're not the guy that said the hotel room key was referencing pi + 1? Because that's a mighty big coincidence if there are two people with the same bizarre idea.

>math
>Twin Peaks
>PEAKS
huh? i'm not a math guy myself, so you're gonna have to spell this one out in better detail. I see Twin Peaks as a reference to the Two Pillars (and Earth, and human consciousness, as the embodiment of the central pillar, the arena where the two pillar forces clash and battle it out)
Anonymous No.40883904 [Report]
>>40883816
>yea, because Saturn is WATER.
Not according to Thelema, it's Earth in Thelema and the show is Thelemic (Scarlet Woman Diane).
http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Elements
Anonymous No.40883999 [Report]
>>40883725
while that is an interesting theory, we also have evidence about Jupiter and Saturn that has a clear astrological bent to it, where Cooper talks about Saturn (constrictive) and Jupiter (expansive), and that when they converge great change can come about. (can't find the movie clip scene, it's where they're looking at the map found in Owl Cave, and cooper is explaining to sheriff what the symbols mean)

The issue with making Saturn/Satan into "the bad guy", is that Cooper was sitting in the Saturn chair. If the dwarf had been sitting there, then we could assume he represented Saturn.
But Cooper did, and the clues are readily there which help explain why it was Cooper sitting there and not the dwarf.
Saturn = Time. Earth operates under time.
Saturn = Karmic force. Cops are a type of karmic force.
Saturn = Form. The physical, phenomenal world we exist in has form. (it also has energy/force, but that comes from the other pillar)

In the occult, Water and Fire are considered the original duality, earth is thought to be "condensed water" and Air is thought to be "crystallized fire" (Dion Fortuna). Energy/Force, the Pillar of Mercy, is noumena. Pillar of Severity is phenomena.
Noumena is spirit, it is considered "active and masculine" because "men are more active than women" and because it is the spirit that equates to emotions, to the Will. Like Fire that provides propulsion/will to a car or train.

This is why when people in the show die, they have been shown to be transferred to another phenomenal object. Log Lady's husband's soul is in the log, Josie's soul gets trapped first in the nightstand at the hotel, and then moves to a painting in the main lounge area (we see Pete Martell talking to her/a painting right when Audrey asks him to drive her to airport to catch John Justice Wheeler before he flies off to Brazil or someplace)
Anonymous No.40884023 [Report] >>40884105
>>40883776
so i had a thought, let's say your theory is right, and Black Lodge symbolizes Saturn, and the red dwarf is Mars (which could make sense since Mars and Saturn are both on Pillar of Severity), how then would you explain the statue of Venus?
The only other god/planet missing for Pillar of Severity is Mercury

And just thought of another clue that the good guys are Pillar of Severity/Saturnian. The Pillar of Severity is known as "the scholarly pillar" (probably because of Mercury/Hod), and the Bookhouse Boys were those devoted to fighting against the opposite force. There's nothing "bookish or scholarly" about pillar of mercy.
Anonymous No.40884026 [Report] >>40884142
>>40883883
>is it so farfetched to imagine that the winner of the war enacted a smear campaign against their former rival?
If he was defeated how can he still fight on par with the Black Lodge and counter the Experiment?

>It sounds jilted, but it's spoken "forward".
That's because of 90's tape technology.

>so you're saying you're not the guy that said the hotel room key was referencing pi + 1?
Yes, unironically lmao, i didn't even see that dude's reply now that you mention it.

>so you're gonna have to spell this one out in better detail.
>Dale Cooper, D.C.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_current
>Picrel
>Electricity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDV9mbuP1QE&t=35s
>Two Worlds, Two Electrical Polarities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_polarity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWovKqtv0Jo

I know Electric Universe theory gets a lot of crap but it's an interesting thought, mathematically Sinewaves are related to Pi because of circumferences.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EJwKgDODvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hyBl_tTWh8

Not saying Cooper represents the current itself, just seeing the correlations.
Anonymous No.40884089 [Report] >>40884234
>>40883871
>>I'm asking if there's any other evidence you have that would help lend credence to your theory
>Cooper's Room Key is 315 and Pi is 3.14
>>the hotel room key
>>didn't mention that
>so you're saying you're not the guy that said the hotel room key was referencing pi + 1? Because that's a mighty big coincidence if there are two people with the same bizarre idea.
so you didn't say it, but clearly you were thinking it, hence why i brought it up, which you then tried to imply you weren't going to bring up, when in fact you had every intention of bringing that up as an example. Okay then, glad we got that cleared up.

>titans arent giants
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giants_(Greek_mythology)
>the Giants were often confused with other opponents of the Olympians, particularly the Titans, an earlier generation of large and powerful children of Gaia and Uranus.
>large and powerful
>large
>LARGE
Anonymous No.40884105 [Report] >>40884176
>>40884023
>can't find the movie clip scene
I posted it on the last thread, twitter link.

>This is why when people in the show die, they have been shown to be transferred to another phenomenal object.
No, they did that because in Native American Belief Wood holds Spirits. Their Totems also had this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animism
https://survivethriveptsd.org/totem-pole-spirits-native-american-traditions/

>and Black Lodge symbolizes Saturn
i didn't say it symbolizes Saturn...
The Planets are personified WITHIN the lodge, the lodge is a microcosm of Space, an imitation.

>how then would you explain the statue of Venus?
Venus would be Laura, do you know how conjunctions work? This was covered in the last thread.
Anonymous No.40884138 [Report] >>40884223
>>40881112
I think Agent Cooper is Venus because this metal is with her. The ancients saw in her not only a goddess but also a dying and resurrecting deity (Inanna's descent into the underworld) or the fall of a deity (fallen angels)
I already wrote, but everyone ignores it

>According to legend, El (Kronos-Saturn-Geb Egyptian) sat between two twin mountains in his tent (cube/black lodge?) at the sources of all rivers and abyss
Anonymous No.40884142 [Report] >>40896182
>>40884026
>twin peaks
there are two mountains that go up, not one mountain that goes and one that goes under. There, i disproved your theory.

>that's because of 90s tape technology
you're being deliberately obtuse at this point. And wrong still, and here's the proof. Vid of what you claim to be "backwards speech", when it's been played in reverse by vid recorder.
If it was actually backwards as you say, we should be able to able to understand it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6-kcz8zZg4
it's gibberish. Because what they're actually doing is "talking normal, but trying to make it sound it's speech being reversed on a tape recorder".

>okay, i'm gonna spell it out
>Dale Cooper, D.C.
okay, we're done. Nice talking to you. Not gonna waste my time talking to a complete idiot.

>coffee has six letters
>letters has seven letters
>seven is the last day of the week
>Sunday
>my dad used to take me fishing on sunday
>fish in the coffee percolator
>proof the show is actually about me. Why else would they incorporate my dad taking me fishing on Sunday into the show?
Anonymous No.40884176 [Report]
>>40884105
>native american
Josie wasn't native american, nor was Log Lady's husband.
Native americans also don't have a 808 or red dwarf totem.

>venus would be laura
Laura wasn't in all the red room scenes. And if "Venus represents Laura", then "Saturn represents Cooper", except that you've been trashing on Saturn so you're tripping over your own theory.
Anonymous No.40884223 [Report] >>40884234
>>40878352
>>40878393
You ignore that the saturn lamp is green
In general, black lodge is connected with Saturn and Venus is in it, and this is the same Inanna, Astarte, Aphrodite, Isis

>>40884138
most likely agent cooper is a hint at the copper serpent.

i know it's maybe related to the cop(copper) because Agent Copper is cop, but nevertheless
Anonymous No.40884234 [Report] >>40884258 >>40884259
>>40884089
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giants_(Greek_mythology)
The Giants (Γίγαντες) and Titans (Τιτᾶνες) were two seperate races and were confused with the Titans as you say,

>The etymology of Τiτᾶνες (Titanes) is uncertain. Hesiod in the Theogony gives a double etymology, deriving it from titaino (to strain) and tisis (vengeance), saying that Uranus gave them the name Titans.

>Jane Ellen Harrison asserts that the word "Titan" comes from the Greek τίτανος, signifying white "earth, clay, or gypsum", and that the Titans were "white clay men", or men covered by white clay or gypsum dust in their rituals.
Ngl this sounds like Windom Earle and Leland/Laura when they had their faces white.
>men covered by white clay or gypsum dust in their rituals.
>picrel

>There, i disproved your theory.
You didn't, see >>40883711
Twin Sinewaves... I used that example now because you said to spell this one out in better detail.

>If it was actually backwards as you say, we should be able to able to understand it.
If it's understandable then why do those scenes always have hardcoded subtitles unlike any other scene?

>Not gonna waste my time talking to a complete idiot.
Not a counterargument. Don't forget about the connection with D.B Cooper to, Dale's full name in the show is Dale Bartholomew Cooper.

>Josie wasn't native american, nor was Log Lady's husband.
Wasn't saying they were, the show relies heavily on Nez Perce and Native American spirituality, Bob is quite literally a Native American Skinwalker.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin-walker

>Laura wasn't in all the red room scenes.
She said her arms bent back, notice how the hallway statue doesn't have arms while the waiting room one does.

>>40884223
I also noticed that, the Fraternitas Saturni believes Saturn is associated more with Green than Black.
http://www.communitas-saturni.de/Praxis/Siegel/Saturn/saturn.html
Anonymous No.40884258 [Report]
>>40884234
This is what i mean about Laura's Arms.
>Picrel
Anonymous No.40884259 [Report] >>40884321
>>40884234
>The Giants (Γίγαντες) and Titans (Τιτᾶνες) were two seperate races
They are relatives

Asuras Devas
Aesir Jotuns
Titans Olympians
Igigi Anunnaki (after the displacement of Anu, the supporters of El began to be called Elohim)

Asuras are most likely all Aesir (because in the Vedas even Indra is called an asura)
btw
>Osiris know as Ausar (Asar, Wasiri, Osiris)
>He is maybe Ashur who connected with Ahura(Ashura)Mazda
Anonymous No.40884321 [Report] >>40884472
>>40884259
>They are relatives
But not one and the same.

>Asuras Devas
>Aesir Jotuns
>Titans Olympians
>Igigi Anunnaki
It's all Astrotheology speaking about the same things.

>Osiris
He sits on a Saturnian Black Cube.
Anonymous No.40884455 [Report]
>>40874782 (OP)
Here's a great video for fans.. Tying occult shit to the series and Lynch*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG_CxsUNelw
Anonymous No.40884472 [Report] >>40884516
>>40884321
>Saturnian Black Cube.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annwn

Sometimes I still think that everything is connected not with planets but with real unusual creatures
>Caer Sidi ("Revolving/Spinning Fortress") A fortress containing the Cauldron of Annwn, the "Chair" of Taliesin, and where Gweir was imprisoned
>Caer Pedryvan ("Four cornered/peaked fortress") A fortress located on the "Isle of the strong door

According to legend, the Iranian Jamshid (the legendary king, he is Yama of the Veda, Ymir of Scandinavia. Perhaps he is Yam of Ugarit) survived the flood in a cube-ark. Zoroaster and Traetaona were born in the "quadrangular" Varna

Jamshid's Khvarenah (greatness, halo) literally flew off into the reeds after his death, where Traetaona finds it (doesn't that bother you? Like a living creature). Osiris was associated with the reeds (as well as Quetzalcoatl and not only him) and the fields of Ilualu. What do you think... why?
Khvarenah is greatness, it was sometimes depicted as a ram or a bird, but this is associated with
balkancelts.wordpress.com/2015/07/04/cernunnos-and-the-ram-headed-serpent/
Cernunnos is the same Cronus (Saturn)
with the root krn / qrn / crn connected horns
(the same snakes with ram horns were depicted in the mysteries)

Osiris is green not just because he is dead or associated with vegetation. Shennong was also described with horns and a green body. In Chinese myths, there is also a struggle of gods, the Yellow Emperor fights with Chiyou, and the Yellow Emperor himself was associated with gods with snake tails. Moreover, the struggle resembles the Book of the Heavenly Cow (in both stories, the gods release evil goddesses who begin to kill and can't stop)

(and yes, all these gods were often associated with copper and reed, if you go deeper. Because they are reptiles, they are heavily dependent on copper. Zeus himself turned into a snake, and Dionysus often had a snake tail and horns)
Anonymous No.40884516 [Report]
>>40884472
>Varna
It is worth adding that the root VR is associated with enveloping/entangling/concealing
(Vritra is also associated with this or Varuna)

so this "quadrangular" Varna where some Zoarostrian heroes were born (and where Jamid survives the flood) or Revolving/Spinning Four cornered/peaked Fortress aka Caer Sidi is most likely a literal cube, not ironic, I don't know if it is in Saturn or underground (the Sumerians had a tree of knowledge underground) or right above the ground, but the cube is where the "gods" live

AND! I KEEPER WANTED TO WRITE AND FORGOT!

Description of the heavenly Jerusalem in the Bible. Reread the Book of Revelation of John
briefly
>Heavenly Jerusalem is not an earthly city, it comes down from heaven, where it is guarded by angels
>The city has the shape of a cube with a side of 12,000 stadia (approximately 2220 km).
>The city is built of precious stones and pure gold, like transparent glass.

The walls of the city are 144 cubits thick (about 69 meters) and are made of jasper.

The city has no need for the sun, since God and the Lamb are its light.

HEAVENLY JERUSALEM IS SHAPED AS A CUBE
THAT'S IT
Anonymous No.40884573 [Report]
Cooper failed the Black Lodge, Hawk said he should confront his shadow self with courage, but Cooper ran away instead and failed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyZOadgO4DI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amgX_81kEYQ
Anonymous No.40885384 [Report]
>>40883487
>>40883491
Why do you mock me so.
Anonymous No.40885422 [Report] >>40885428
John dee obsidian mirror allusion like the band coils time machines album cover
Anonymous No.40885428 [Report] >>40885452 >>40885682 >>40885712
>>40885422
Dammit
Anonymous No.40885452 [Report] >>40885506 >>40885841
>>40885428
>Bandaid
>Gematria 532
>532 = 10
>the size of my dildo
>dildo has five letters
>number of Mars is 5
>Mars is the 4th planet
>5+4 = 9
>9+1 equals 10, the number of completion
Anonymous No.40885506 [Report] >>40885624
>>40885452
>>>/steamforums/
Back where you belong. GGG pleb.
Anonymous No.40885526 [Report]
>>40881226
I must have gotten badly hurt.
Anonymous No.40885624 [Report] >>40885635
>>40885506
>1+3 IS 4
>BAGEL
>BLACK MIRROR TIE
>TIE IN TO BAGEL.
>Dale Cooper
>D.C.
>D.C. has bagel stores
>black mirror bagel stores in D.C.
Anonymous No.40885635 [Report]
>>40885624
You can do lateral and associative thinking, well done.
Anonymous No.40885682 [Report]
>>40885428
Thats a crazy hairpiece
Anonymous No.40885691 [Report]
>>40883571
I dunno kinda believe Lynch here.

Some meanings are intentional and there is a ‘right’ way to interpret the main story but I think for the most part he doesnt have a purpose in mind for every connection and symbol in the grand scheme of things.
Anonymous No.40885705 [Report] >>40903175
>>40881156
‘Were not gonna talk about JEWdy’

Has been a meme the whole time about how in the biz they cant talk about the JEWS
Anonymous No.40885712 [Report] >>40885739 >>40885837
>>40883571
Scarlet Woman has multiple clues that verify it, from the red wig, to the unexplainable sex scenes that take place not for love but "just because".

Then there's people like>>40885428 trying to make connections to the most retarded stuff. And there's no other clues that would back it up.
>frizzy hair
>no hair gel or hairspray
>hair gel is Gematria 610
>610 adds up to 7
>7 days in a week
>this scene takes place on one of the days of the week
>WHOA I DISCOVERED SOMETHING NEW!
Anonymous No.40885739 [Report] >>40885793
>>40885712
David lynch loves trannies
Anonymous No.40885793 [Report] >>40885828
>>40885739
>tranny is 441 in Gematria
>tranny has 6 letters
>4+4+1+6 = pi
>the color green from 300 other movies is why the ring is green
>black mirror tie
>bagel store in D.C.
>Trannys have bagels instead of female anatomy
Anonymous No.40885805 [Report] >>40885816 >>40887066
Check this shit out:

https://www.everand.com/podcast/418747196/27-Occult-Fan-in-The-Secret-History-of-Twin-Peaks-Du%C3%A6ling-Magicians-Jungian-Archetypes-Mutable-Realities-Extradimensional-Entities-In-this

Dave may have been a Rosicrucian.
Anonymous No.40885816 [Report]
>>40885805
Love the opening scene of Blue Velvet
Anonymous No.40885828 [Report] >>40885861
>>40885793
kys
Anonymous No.40885837 [Report] >>40885861
>>40885712
kys
Anonymous No.40885841 [Report] >>40885861
>>40885452
kys
Anonymous No.40885861 [Report] >>40885867
>>40885841
>>40885837
>>40885828
>kys
>in gematria that's 214
>214 was my 6th grade class room number
>my teacher was a female
>who liked bagels from D.C.
>proof that Twin Peaks is secretly talking about me when it casts a tranny
Anonymous No.40885867 [Report] >>40885881
>>40885861
kys
last response to this retard bot
Anonymous No.40885872 [Report]
Anonymous No.40885881 [Report]
>>40885867
you're clearly the bot since you keep double-checking the gematria numbers
>you're clearly the bot since you keep double-checking the gematria numbers
>in gematria that is 2001
>2001 A Space Odyssey
>Odysseus sailed from Troy
>Troy was such a jerk in Goonies
>Goonies were in search of Pirate Treasure in Oregon
>Oregon is kinda sorta close to Twin Peaks
>OMG I DISCOVERED SOMETHING NEW ABOUT TWIN PEAKS!
Anonymous No.40885887 [Report] >>40885905
Anonymous No.40885895 [Report] >>40885913
God I fucking hate bots and ChatGPT posters.
Anonymous No.40885905 [Report]
>>40885887
the fact you double-checked so many obvious joke gematrias of mine was pretty hilarious. Total bot behavior
Anonymous No.40885913 [Report]
>>40885895
lol, aww look, the bot is having a mental breakdown
Anonymous No.40885916 [Report] >>40885920
HURR DURR JUS PREE TEND 2 BE RETAAR DID LOL GOT EM

I ZUD PROL E KAY EMM ESS NAO!!!1!!!1!!!11!!!!
Anonymous No.40885920 [Report] >>40885930 >>40885935
>>40885916
>HURR DURR THE DWARF IS MARS AND THE GIANT IS JUPITER, I JUS PREE TEND 2 BE RETAAR
>in gematria that is 1255A1.69
>there are seven letters in "A"
>a bagel can hold a black mirror tie and seven letters within it
>GUYS I FOUND SOMETHING ELSE OUT ABOUT TWIN PEAKS!
gematria people are the STUPIDEST faggots in the world
Anonymous No.40885930 [Report] >>40885941 >>40885950
>>40885920
Maybe your "jokes" just suck + you're actually retarded and no one likes your half assed parodies.

TG, and if you're not him your behavior is functionally equivalent ie you're not only retarded you're unoriginal and replaceable, get the fuck out and go back to steamforums where your stupid ass belongs. And shut the fuck up while you're at it. One cutesy "lolpierandom" lateral thinking post was enough. Yes, we see you.

Sage.
Anonymous No.40885935 [Report]
>>40885920
Also I'm pretty sure you're literally homosexual, which explains your shit sense of humor and defective interpretations of the feedback from your environment. Your brain is malformed.

Many such cases.
Anonymous No.40885941 [Report] >>40885961
>>40885930
your assessments about Twin Peaks suck as much as my jokes.
I'm retarded for mocking you, but you're retarded for actually thinking you're contributing to uncovering Twin Peaks clues with stupid shit like "Dale Cooper, D.C., Washington D.C." and "black mirror tie", and "pi + 1 = 315 the hotel room key" and "Dwarf is Mars and Giant is Jupiter" and "Titans aren't giants so the Giant couldn't possibly be a Titan reference"

are you female or something? is this why you're so fucking retarded?
Anonymous No.40885950 [Report] >>40885961
>>40885930
>hates trannies
>hates gays
>says things like "you're unoriginal and replaceable" and "cutesy"
yup, low iq chick confirmed.
Can't wait for Trump to take away your voting rights.
Anonymous No.40885961 [Report] >>40885973
>>40885941
Half of those posts aren't even mine. I posted a screenshot of the key, that's about it. Your stupid ass wouldn;t know what to do with half the shit you encounter anyway.

>>40885950
>muh hate
So predictable. Your stupid alt account(s) and your main with the 6 color rainbow flag. Mega tool. You think I don't recognize you? Maybe 30% odds I'm wrong.
Anonymous No.40885973 [Report] >>40885978
>>40885961
well the key post was fucking retarded. You're welcome for pointing that out to your dumb CUNT

>muh hate
>because i didn't just call someone "literally homosexual".
>it's okay when i use hate, but it's wrong when others use it against me.
And no, i have literally no clue what you're talking about with "alt accounts" and 6 color rainbow flag. So you're a 100% wrong with whatever it is you think you knew. Stupid CUNT. GTFO out of this thread
Anonymous No.40885978 [Report] >>40885980
>>40885973
It's really weird that your post ends in 973.
Anonymous No.40885980 [Report] >>40885983
>>40885978
no, it would be weird if it ended in letters instead of numbers.
It's actually perfectly normal for it to end in numbers that consecutively get higher. Are you that same stupid CUNT of a female in the thread that keeps making stupid comments?
Anonymous No.40885983 [Report] >>40885988
>>40885980
Okay, I see what the Demiurge is trying to do.
Anonymous No.40885988 [Report] >>40885991 >>40886030
>>40885983
oh look, the stupid female CUNT is trying to think, how adorable!
Anonymous No.40885991 [Report] >>40885999
>>40885988
You think it would be hot if I was a chick (although more likely you're homosexual). You want to fuck the stupid out of something to make sense of your world.
Anonymous No.40885999 [Report] >>40886010 >>40886030
>>40885991
>you're homosexual and think i'm hot if i was a chick
typical female mind, constantly thinks men are fantasizing about her, even the gay men. You can fuck off and get raped by your dad like Laura Palmer was whenever you want, just leave the thread
>i bet Laura Palmer's dad thinks i'm hot and wants to rape me
CUUUUUUNT. Narcissistic CUNT TRASH, fuck off, you're stupid, no one cares about your thoughts.
Anonymous No.40886010 [Report] >>40886022
>>40885999
kek, I'll take that as a yes. Do I remind you of your mother, reading the sunday horoscope? Or is it someone else. Can't fuck the dumb out of mommy. Perhaps it was a single mother (or absent father), and you were parentified / spousified.
Anonymous No.40886022 [Report] >>40886026 >>40886030
>>40886010
>yes, i'm a woman. How could you tell?
it's obvious.
Anonymous No.40886026 [Report] >>40886048
>>40886022
Anon can't tell if he's angry or turned on.
Anonymous No.40886030 [Report] >>40886035
>>40886022
>>40885999
>>40885988
the digits are strong with this one
Anonymous No.40886035 [Report]
>>40886030
I have to agree.
Anonymous No.40886048 [Report] >>40886082
>>40886026
no, you're the only one trying to make this about being "turned on". I just think you have stupid assessments about Twin Peaks, and your writing style is very feminine and your insults are CLASSIC female style ("oh you want to fuck me, you're so turned on, even though you're gay"). Men don't talk like that at all, only women immediately resort to such style.
Which is how i know you're a woman. And a fucking stupid one.
No i don't want to fuck you, at all. You're fucking annoying (mainly for your stupid Twin Peaks assessments, but your typical "female style insult style" is pretty annoying too, but mainly because i see that style everywhere online by girls.
Anonymous No.40886082 [Report] >>40886111 >>40886112 >>40886240
>>40886048
Nah, I have an uncanny sense for this. There's some reason you've attached and fixated on me specifically. And none of the garbage your conscious mind is outputting is the truth.

I think you're just retarded, as stated several times now. Every man can understand the impulse to control unwanted behavior in women through sex. It's just common sense. Bitchy, nagging, complaining? Fuck her, literally. Doesn't listen to you? Conquer her. Is so retarded and talks endlessly that you find her oddly attractive? Classic. It's the quasi-oedipal bullshit.

Disappointing as it may be, I am not a woman. Therefore whatever you're looking for I cannot provide. Very straightforward. Beyond saying that I don't believe what you're saying. You should also be aware I drank tons of kava, ate a large amount of cacao, and smoked some blue lotus and wild lettuce. I find it hard to give a fuck about what you're saying and find it bizarre and funny. In the past I have played the role of Father-Mother, so you're basically just seeing whatever you want to see. Probably.

Maybe go fight with your mom or something. I don't know what to tell ya.
Anonymous No.40886104 [Report]
Posted this >>40886089 in the Mathilda thread but still very much related here...
Anonymous No.40886105 [Report] >>40887691 >>40905701
Anonymous No.40886111 [Report] >>40886146
>>40886082
>You should also be aware I drank tons of kava, ate a large amount of cacao, and smoked some blue lotus and wild lettuce. I find it hard to give a fuck about what you're saying and find it bizarre and funny.
NTA but jesus you sound like a fag. If you dont care stop responding.
Anonymous No.40886112 [Report] >>40886146
>>40886082
>oh you totally want to have sex with me!
>btw i'm actually not a woman.
>and you're the gay one, not me.
whatever dude, you're either gay yourself or a woman lying (gee shocker! a lying woman!)

>i'm on drugs
that would explain the extremely low effort posts like the "pi + 1 = 315 hotel key" post lmao.

maybe go do more drugs, maybe it'll make you so retarded you loop back around to intelligence
Anonymous No.40886146 [Report] >>40886159 >>40886188
>>40886111
It's scripted, like the rest of our lives. I know why this is happening.

>>40886112
Dumb reply. However later on you will introspect on your own, so, whatever. Most people aren't honest or direct in anything. You're no exception, very normal, very mundane. Hold the cards close, deflect, characterize, spin a narrative. Your body and mind are just puppets you have dance around. Your "persona". I don't care at all.

Pic related. I could be fried into a drooling husk in another dimension, and this would still be more you than me.
Anonymous No.40886159 [Report] >>40886175
>>40886146
>pi + 1 = 315, the hotel room key number
>OMG GUYS I JUST DISCOVERED SOMETHING IN TWIN PEAKS THAT COULD OPEN UP WHOLE NEW REALMS OF ANALYSIS!
lol
Anonymous No.40886175 [Report] >>40886181 >>40886196
>>40886159
Anonymous No.40886181 [Report]
>>40886175
Anonymous No.40886188 [Report]
>>40886146
>It's scripted, like the rest of our lives. I know why this is happening.
Great. Maybe keep it to yourself. Not everyone takes someone typing like this or speaking like this as a sign of intelligence or wisdom.
Anonymous No.40886196 [Report] >>40886215
>>40886175
Anonymous No.40886215 [Report] >>40886224
>>40886196
I don't think you know shit about what it means.
Anonymous No.40886224 [Report] >>40886231
>>40886215
>pi + 1 + 6 - 6 = 315, the hotel room key number
>OMG YOU GUYS I THINK I JUST DISCOVERED SOMETHING NEW ABOUT TWIN PEAKS! THE MOVIE IS ALL ABOUT PI
Anonymous No.40886231 [Report]
>>40886224
Can you cut this shit out? Your behavior is emotionally labile and feminine. Every speck of it screams emotionally needy. You provide nothing of value and are just here for attention and to shit up the thread until bump limit. If I could snap my fingers and have you maimed to the extent required to occupy your thoughts with something else, I would do it.
Anonymous No.40886240 [Report] >>40886245
>>40886082
>Every man can understand the impulse to control unwanted behavior in women through sex. It's just common sense. Bitchy, nagging, complaining? Fuck her, literally. Doesn't listen to you? Conquer her. Is so retarded and talks endlessly that you find her oddly attractive? Classic. It's the quasi-oedipal bullshit
straight men dont think like this
women and the asexuals in academia invented critical theory to convince themselves that everything, including sex, is some form of oppression/control
but the real answer is they cant even fathom how uncontrollably horny straight men are and it doesnt have anything to do with the psychological bullshit they've invented with their worthless degrees
Anonymous No.40886245 [Report]
>>40886240
See above. Labile, feminine flailing.
Anonymous No.40886287 [Report] >>40887365
Can you cut this shit out? Your behavior is emotionally labile and feminine. Every speck of it screams emotionally needy. You provide nothing of value and are just here for attention and to shit up the thread until bump limit.
Anonymous No.40886291 [Report] >>40886359
My wife and I used to love Twin Peaks. We had our honeymoon at the Great Northern in 2018. Forget what its actually called. Very strange place. Back then, the sherrif's station was now a Dirt Fish admin office, for a WRX track that went around the Old Mill, which was actually right outside. I was just hunting thru my old pics for some drone photos but could find anything. So, have some random beach pic from 2018 instead. I will keep looking.

We moved to Hawaii 3 years ago and I think that something along the lines of Twin peaks makes a lot more sense out here than it would there. Maui is a no-go zone for a haole like me. But Oahu is eerily accepting and calls to me. My neighbor tells me to watch for the Night Marchers and Menehune when we are camping. Haven't had any bad experiences at all on this island. But on Maui I've woken to the sounds of chanting and drums.
Anonymous No.40886359 [Report]
>>40886291
different spirits
Anonymous No.40887066 [Report] >>40887071
>>40885805
He was a Thelemite (Hence the Scarlet Lady).
Thelema took heavily from Rosicrucianism.

Also why was picrel called Lil? Is this a reference to Lilith and how the Scarlet Lady archetype is related to her to?
Anonymous No.40887071 [Report] >>40887632
>>40887066
>messed up picrel ffs
Anonymous No.40887084 [Report] >>40887086 >>40887092
The subplot where Andy thinks Nicky is the Devil is interesting because Nick is the Scottish name for the Devil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Nick

He is also birthed by Lucy (Lucifer) who has a 666 Sweater.
Anonymous No.40887086 [Report]
>>40887084
This Sweater.
Anonymous No.40887092 [Report]
>>40887084
>correction
He was not birthed by Lucy, but still.
Anonymous No.40887110 [Report]
The subplot where Andy thinks Nicky is the Devil is interesting because Nick is the Scottish name for the Devil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Nick
Anonymous No.40887120 [Report]
Appropriate music to read this thread to:

https://soundcloud.com/formlessmurder/endless-realms-of-the-unseen
Anonymous No.40887350 [Report] >>40887651 >>40888573
>>40881226
I thought Donnie went to a Catholic high school. He wasn't Jewish. But you are right, it has a lot of symbolism
https://youtu.be/kizc6YBWYUg?si=PAMq32lx3SKxHCAQ
Anonymous No.40887365 [Report]
>>40886287
>feminine
You say that like it's an insult. But it also depends on what you mean by feminine
Anonymous No.40887632 [Report]
>>40887071
Lil = 33
Anonymous No.40887651 [Report]
>>40887350
He did. IRL, he's a jew, though. Laura Palmer, exoterically, wasn't jewish either. Only through her mom's name, Sarah Judith Palmer (Sarah Jewess Palmer), is the data/implication/synch/fact, made known. Donnie Darkko is way more veiled/esoteric. Same other dimentional/dissociative themes, though. And the child sex abuse element as well. The Judyan connection was indicated/revealed through having Jake Jake Gyllenhaal, who is an ethnic jew,, IRL, the lead. Sara Palmer knew it was happening. In those families, the mother and the siblings all know, or all take part in anti-nomian sexual activities, themselves. She was abused in her youth, also. But it still can destroy the participants, psychologically. This girl was in a Sabbatean/Frankist sect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbD51DNN3c8
Sabbatai Zevi supposedly started the anti-nomian cult. Sabbatai cames from שבתאי, Saturn, in Hebrew. Where Sabbath, Shabbos, Shabbat, come from. There's Saturnian shit that indicative, all over TP. The speculative modern Freemasonry came from these Sabbatean/Frankist cults. The jews mixed in with Europeans, especially the "elites", through Freemasonry.
Anonymous No.40887691 [Report]
>>40886105
Are those numbers on his tie?
Anonymous No.40887754 [Report] >>40887784
Is there an analysis of Twin Peaks from a Christian lens? In The Return especially I had strong vibes of the fall and redemption symbology
Anonymous No.40887784 [Report]
>>40887754
See:
>>40875032
>>40877209
>>40877296

There's a whole lot of 315s there.
Anonymous No.40888241 [Report]
>>40881226
>jewish protagonist Donnie, was molested, and a dissociative entity called "Frank"
>They don't overtly let on that he was abused, but that is the occult reality.
If you're going to shoot a theory then you have to anchor it to something in the film in a secure way. Where does the movie show that Donnie was ever abused?
Anonymous No.40888304 [Report] >>40888364
>>40874782 (OP)
Dale Cooper is the animus of the Dreamer/Lynch. Men have an internal image/idea/complex, surrounding the ideal /admirable male characteristics, (non sexual ones, unless you are psychically deranged.) not just women. Jung talked about this idea in men as well, not just as the reverse of the anima, in women. This is why people like Trump are so successful. This is why people react so strongly to him. People project the godking/emperor/king archetype on him. He is cynical with the power/influence. Self serving, generally. And he's failed to do, maybe, the key thing, which is judiciously/vigilantly maintain the money supply of the unit of exchange, so's to maintain the purchasing power per unit, so's to avoid unnecessary inflation of prices. And of course, he didn't end the occupation of our government and society, from the jews, and the anti-nomian spirit of Judy that corrupts our society. David Lynche's high school sweet heart was a jewess named Judy. Judy captured Dale's anima, and this effected his psyche. And it effected is his authentic self, and his image of an ideal male. He became dark because he/his animus was seduced by Judy, through Laura, posthumously. His soul then courted/hunted/searched our/joined, with Judy, even though this wasn't elaborated in the plot. I would suspect that Lynche's Judy, was a bad girl. And she changed him. In a way that was negative compared to his Eagle Scout, inner Dale Cooper. The bad Dale, is a warped and more malignant version of Tyler Durden. The narrator went dark to court his dark, seductive jewess, that he had projected his anima on. His Judy incarnate, Marla (Mary (Jewess), played by the Jewess Helena Bonham Carter. He projected his anima on the wrong, false wife, like Adam, in the jew versions. Like Lynches first false Eve. The Father God had the same thing happen. Holy Spirit, and all. Though, this was not spacetime congress. It was in Spirit. Multi-dimensional. And Mary wasn't bad. The opposite archetype. Vi
Anonymous No.40888364 [Report] >>40888522
>>40888304
I don't consider men to have an animus. Men have an ego-ideal and an anima-ideal. The anima has no reflection in the world so it seeks to map itself onto something (female partner), the ego ideal is something the man strives for. He doesn't "have" an "animus" as such.
Anonymous No.40888371 [Report]
>>40874782 (OP)
Dales anima split off. Dougie was the resultant product. An inauthentic self of Dale Cooper. Robbed of most of his former masculine characteristics, like leadership, gift of speech and expression, general drive and tendency towards pro-activity, ect.
Anonymous No.40888465 [Report] >>40888514 >>40888520
>>40874782 (OP)
1) Lynch's work is great because it works on different levels and ultimately the "deeper" levels become the most shallow, because they overshadow the truth. Truths are simple. Real truths. There aren't many, but the ones that exist are very clear and easy to understand. Easy to convey. But that simple nature, means that if you don't want to accept them, there is little wiggle room to maneuver around them. So you have to start eroding it at the corners or avoiding it by twisting language. Death is a truth. Everything dies. What death actually is, is something that isn't revealed with understanding that everything dies. They're at once interconnected (obviously), and exist separately. You can understand/accept everything dies, and still not know what Death is. You can not understand/ not accept that everything dies, and also still not know what Death is. There is more "wiggle room" in theorizing what Death actually is because no one can combat it readily.
So what's the point? Well, Twin Peaks is a very simple story. A young woman is raped and killed in a horrible way. She meets her end too early in a way we don't want Death to be. Her death kicks off an investigation, and there is the first double meaning. It's an investigation into who killed Laura Palmer. It's a crime show. But it is also an investigation into Death. Who killed Laura Palmer leads to why did someone kill Laura Palmer? What happened to Laura Palmer? What happened at Death and then the show past that. What happens when you die?
Anonymous No.40888514 [Report] >>40888520
>>40888465
2) There is a great line where someone asks Cooper something along the lines of "Isn't it horrible and weird enough that someone would rape and kill their daughter or a stranger?" That's the show asking you that because at that point you're knee deep in conspiracy and looking for symbols. Yu're like the detective, searching through blood and bones for meaning, forgetting that you're sifting through blood and bone. You've dissociated yourself. You've gained distance from Death that way. Laura Palmer stops being a person. She's first a body, then a murder victim, then a clue to something more, and finally a bunch of abstract nonsense on message boards and even the show. The show revels in becoming more obtuse and less concrete and moving you away from the catalyst of everything. Death and what it means. The realest thing that happens in Twin Peaks is not Laura Palmer dying, the investigation or any of the other things involving an ever growing web of events. It's Laura's body being found. That is the "real" real. Someone finds her horribly dead, and instantly they change her into a symbol to make it easier to manage. That is Lynch. That is his message. We walk through life and the few moments that are "real" are almost too much for our brains. We have to transmute them into something else, and abstract symbol that dilutes them, to make sense of it. And ironically in doing that, things make less and less sense. That is the show. That is discussion of the show. That is theorizing of the show. You can being talking about it and seem fairly of level ground and insightful, but the more you try to "explain" the more off the road you become. The more distant from truth you get. The more abstract you need to be. Just like a dream.
Anonymous No.40888520 [Report]
>>40888465
>>40888514
3) Our innate ability to "reason" is our Achilles heel. To reason you need to get everything right because otherwise it's incomplete and that just leaves questions which we dont like. So with life, and this show, the biggest hurdle is not being able to accept the phrase "I don't know". The inability to think "I'm wrong." That is our limit, with the show, with accepting parts of life, with understanding Death and in turn the life that comes before it.
Anonymous No.40888522 [Report] >>40888894
>>40888364
Jung talked about it. Men do it. That's why they have male models with particular features, generally. We project our animus onto sports stars, movie stars, world leaders, ect. There is some confluence with the idea of "projecting our ego/I, such as when we watch adventure stories, and project ourself into the hero role. I don't go by the terms of one particular psychic apparatus that one particular guy had. They're all imperfect.They CAN take some little disney girl actress that all the little girls project their anima onto, have that girl start being a lesbian, or play a lesbian role, and a certain % of girls will do it too, simply because they are unconsciously possessed by a negative (Judy) spirit that was energized by seeing the person they had projected their anima onto, do it. Think of Donna Heyward starting to smoke, and wanting to imitate Laura. This is the spirit of Judy at work, through Laura, and that is why Leland redeemed himself when he honor killed Laura, even though he had committed the heinous acts that he had, in terms of child rape. Laura/Judy would have left an even bigger trail of destruction. HOWEVER, Dale still managed to get dragged into trying to retroactively save her, using inter-dementional means, that he didn't fully grasp, for particular unmentionable reasons. This reminds me of circe, the fread goddess. Dougie was a version of how the infernal female can turn ones self from the Odysian self, to the state of his men, when under the spell of Circe (lust/wasting seed).
>Circe's potion transforms Odysseus's men into pigs, representing a loss of their humanity and memory
Dougie lost his memory. Judy is much more malignant than the Circe archetype, though.
Anonymous No.40888556 [Report] >>40892264 >>40897578
Clown painting in Leo's room too.
Anonymous No.40888573 [Report]
>>40887350
It was a Jesuit high school and director Richard Kelly's dad was a NASA spook
Anonymous No.40888894 [Report]
>>40874782 (OP)
here
>>40888522
should be
>This reminds me of circe, the DREAD goddess.
The greatly feared (like Judy), goddess.
Anonymous No.40889140 [Report]
>>40881226
>And that's why Lynch is a bad guy. One of the reasons.
Anonymous No.40890341 [Report]
Bump
Anonymous No.40890592 [Report]
>>40874911
>to keep the spoiler to a minimun
Fuck off reddit faggot
Anonymous No.40891036 [Report] >>40892223
Back to that red and blue topic in last thread it is interesting that woody woodpecker is distinctly red and blue. Has to be some mk ultra connection and undercurrent like his wizard of Oz obsession and homages
https://youtu.be/W056Y36kGdo?=xA5NrTFIbZc-DV_q
whocares No.40891070 [Report]
>>40882701
The same in Squid Games, though I don't doubt their intentions. But some of these, yes, I do believe that it's an attempt to alter timelines in some cases.
Anonymous No.40891193 [Report]
It's pretty wild how many cast members have died and especially right after the return. I cant think of any other show except the sopranos
Anonymous No.40891827 [Report] >>40891843
>>40874936
>>40874994
>>40875048
I dunno, I thought it was 18 hours of meandering with occasionally nice moments that didn't actually made it worth trudging through to get there. And that's coming from someone who really liked FWWM.
Anonymous No.40891843 [Report]
>>40891827
Filtered af
Anonymous No.40891916 [Report]
>>40874782 (OP)
I appreciate David Lynch and Twin Peaks for influencing enough Japanese and Finnish people to create peak video games, including Alan Wake, Flower, Sun & Rain, and Deadly Premonition, to name a few.
Anonymous No.40892223 [Report] >>40894774
>>40891036
JUDY Garland. Major Garland. Judy in the form of the wicked witch of the east/west. Red slippers of Philip Jeffries. Dream state of Dorthy. Jefferies is actually more of a main character, in a way, than Dale Cooper. He ran into (was seduced) by the REAL Judy incarnate, not just the "chosen" vessel of Judy dor this particular narrative, Laura P. The Judy Lynch mentions here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wadzKFJbLk
Notice how timid/dejected Lynch is when he says
>hello Judy
at 6 seconds. There's a reason for that. She's his boss.

Improper Grail quest by Jefferies and Dale Cooper. They were neither to seduce, or BE seduced by women. Dale started well, when he turned down the femme fatale, Audrey. Posthumously, relative to the main spacetime narrative, he still got seduced in other dimensions (red room), which is why he tried to do the inter-dimensional work, which he was not prepared/skilled enough, for. But they shit isn't easy. Going backwards and forwards in time, in other, sometimes ethereal/non-physical realities. Nobody want's to tell you anything. The righteous man's path is beset on all sides, with with adversarial entities, when you start floatin' around out in the realms. EVERY clue is cryptic/veiled. And they have memory partitioning weapons/tech, where you can get "virus" type melodies in your psyche (if the proper counter measures aren't taken, in terms of tech/actions, ect), which partition of sectors of your memory. This is one of Judy's main weapons, and she does it to the dreamer, which results in Dougie, who loses nearly all memory. And Mr C, who went bad/was created as a result of interacting WITH Judies spirit, didn't even realize his relationship TO Judy. The remembrance of Judy was wiped with Mr C. And he was still looking for her, at the end of the return.
Anonymous No.40892264 [Report] >>40896335
>>40888556
The would be archons of this reality are like unto sadistic clowns. They are called as such, in another film that is about a dream within a dream, and about the Judyan cult. Picrel. SADISM is THE main weapon of Judy, and those in league with her. Somebody like Dale Cooper, or Jefferies, aren't equipment, in some ways, to deal with the Judy force, or Judy incarnate. They are NOT able to be sadistic BACK to the adversary, and, this can be a disadvantage, in a might makes right, satanic/judy-ruled way. The reason is, they are without guile/animal cunning, like Parsifal. The fool. They are good. The cross that Jefferies wears, is a clue tho this archetype. They are "wounded", in the psyche, by the encounter. This results in the creating of the "inauthentic self", which is Dougie and Mr C.
>the Fisher King, a figure whose injury is central to the Holy Grail legend. This king is typically depicted as wounded in the groin or thigh area, causing physical and spiritual impotence, and his land suffers a corresponding decline.
The grail king sleeps. Like Dougie. Injured in the psyche. Carrying on in a way that is inauthentic to what he would, ideally, if not possessed by this negative anima shadow self, resultant in Mr C.

The advantage of Judy-ian sadism must be overcome by supernatural assistance from other, non-physical realms, which bleed into this one. Cooper attempted to become sadistic himself, and deal with Judy on that level, through Mr C. A common mistake. Jefferies dealt with it by recluding to another realm, and taking on a non-anthropomorphic avatar. This might have been a punishment as well, likely temporary.
Anonymous No.40893262 [Report]
The river of Twin Peaks is obviously the Styx and the club is not in Canada.
Anonymous No.40893496 [Report] >>40900021 >>40901944 >>40906643 >>40907607
Dave paulides can be a Bigfoot grifter sometimes but he did bring up a good point about weird ratio of German tourists missing
https://youtu.be/iND_P9BHUcg?=b3IC6yaKIA4gQxyE
Anonymous No.40894774 [Report]
>>40892223
Interesting
Anonymous No.40894893 [Report]
I keep having dreams and visions of a Twin Peaks remake/sequel directed by Denis Villeneuve
BOB is played by Willem Dafoe
Dale/Dougie is played by Jacob Elordi
Anonymous No.40895074 [Report] >>40895159 >>40895886
So what does /x/ think of the most famous and quoted theory about twin peaks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AYnF5hOhuM
Anonymous No.40895159 [Report] >>40895177
>>40895074
Actual Garbage, brainlet even said he purposefully ignored the Mark Frost Materials (The actual Esotericism of Twin Peaks) in interviews.

He should've also followed Pythagoras' advice in picrel and not talk for 4 and a half hours.
Anonymous No.40895177 [Report]
>>40895159
cont.
The link in this post (also posted on the last thread) is still the best Twin Peaks interpretation on Youtube, and it's quite short.
>>40882665
Anonymous No.40895400 [Report]
>>40874791
She's "the one", not the dreamer. That level is a dream within a dream.
Anonymous No.40895783 [Report] >>40896182
Has anyone discussed the fish in the percolator yet?
Anonymous No.40895851 [Report] >>40896730
It sounds like you've all been snacking on some of the local mushrooms
Anonymous No.40895886 [Report]
>>40895074
Sorry, I only watch REAL analysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KUUXpk4U3w&list=PLIHlB-wesGPVETlNFLsGCKL-SFjW8wrJf&index=2
Anonymous No.40896182 [Report] >>40896231
>>40895783
yes. here. >>40884142
Anonymous No.40896231 [Report]
>>40896182
Wow…
Lol
Anonymous No.40896271 [Report]
>>40878658
Totally concurr
Anonymous No.40896335 [Report]
>>40892264
>sadism
That was just some dude named Marques de Sade that was into sex that was "wrong" in my simplification on it. Happened around a time in history of french revolution, and newtonian physics. People were affected by the realization there are laws that govern life instead of just daily acts of God. Led to disillusionment with religion some argue. Often hear people equate sadism with satanism and it seems to be a "modern" puritan thing. Often they dont know sadism has anything to do the person that popularized a type of sexual behavior. He didnt have any interest in Satan or the occult, or maybe he did? He was just "if it feels good then do it" impulsive animalist behavior. I havent read a lot of his writtings but read a book about him and the era.
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>>40895851
Lmao
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>>40874791
it's a simple multidimensional good versus evil story. the end is implying that the evil won (judy).
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>>40896790
Don't simplify it like that, you don't want to be trapped in the lone valley

Also I believe Big Sky was set in the same universe as Twin Peaks but followed a different branch of the lodge
Anonymous No.40897859 [Report]
Rosicusian like his roses
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>>40900021
What a book to take to bed
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>>40893496
Holy shit her jacket
Anonymous No.40901951 [Report] >>40905963
>>40901944
Anonymous No.40902451 [Report] >>40902939
not using /x/ for months then coming back to a huge twin peaks thread makes me very very happy
Anonymous No.40902936 [Report] >>40903283 >>40906673 >>40907449
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>>40875016
No comment on the use of square earings, and The End of Evangelion having Ritsuko wear identical earings?
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>>40902451
/x/ is probably the only semi decent board left on 4chan.
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>>40901473
Trying to combat JUDY. JUDY hates the Aryan spirit.
>>40885705
The spirit they promote as well. The spirit of the "slut walk", and the "drag queen story hours". The spirit of transgressive sex/sexuality, in general, and of wrapping up your identity in your sexuality. The spirit of separating sex from love. Spirit of promiscuity. Spirit of androgyny, blurring lines of gender roles. All of this is in the spirit of the whore of Babylon, chief demoness, chief succubus, (JUDY/JUDY incarnate). They produced a population of JUDY incarnates as well. A population of Laura Palmers. Laura Palmer was a light case. Phillip Jefferies saw the real deal. The archetype of THE REAL Judy incarnate. Above the convenience store. That was an abstract illustration of JUDY incarnate. The trauma caused him to just reclude into a non-biological avatar, for an iteration/experience packet duration (lifetime). The tea kettle thing. This is the equivalent of going "inna woods". Just bailing out, and playing an inanimate object, in another realm, for a while, so's not to have to deal with any of the daily grind. He won't be their, perpetually, eternally.

That's what they've done with these women. They've possessed them with this spirit. They call it "Lilith". And these jews worship this demon/spirit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEnr7ohAoqA
They venerate it.
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>>40902936
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>>40886105
Lot going on with sunflowers and dogs that doesnt get discussed enough
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>>40901944
>>40901951
Anonymous No.40906209 [Report] >>40906222 >>40906643 >>40907139
T on jacket is never explained
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>>40906209
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>>40904996
JUDY cube. Sex portal. Matrix. Womb. Material world. Saturn. Time. The destroyer. JUDY the destroyer. Devours babies. Goddess of abortion. Time also devours babies, and bio-entities. JUDY obliterated the fornicating couple from within the experiment. I know why. It was just delivered to my mind. But that interpretation/fact, is one that will have to remain unpublished.
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>>40906285
>is one that will have to remain unpublished.
Why?
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>>40876849
808 refers to the last digits of the barcode, aka the model number of the standard Rider Back deck.
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>>40906350
It wouldn't be prudent. I guess I shouldn't have mentioned it. It was literally an on the spot thing, though, the reception of the revelation/correct interpretation. Right as I saw the portal. However, I'm sure there's other false interpretations out there. And just right me off as some kooky LARPer, if there's any cognitive dissonance/dis-ease, from realizing the possibility that you might never know. I'll not mention that I've classified info, again, ITT. Only IF someone responds to one of my posts, and asks for an interpretation that happens to be classified.
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>>40906209
The T stands for Time. It's on a black leather jacket for a reason. Cow leather, Cronus/Saturn/Moon/Baal, etc.
>>40893496
Why else is there a time loop?
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>>40902936
Interesting observation because NGE has been interpreted as a time loop with the anime serving as the first loop we see and EoE serving as the end of the second loop. Some people will argue that EoE and the original last two episodes are one and the same, but EoE contains intentional differences in scenes to illustrate that we're looking at two timelines, and EoE is the darker timeline. EoE is both a sequel to the original series and an "alternative ending" in Anno's words.

Which is kind of interesting because it seems like someone working on NGE caught on to the time loop stuff in Twin Peaks. I've always been curious as to what Kojima would have done with PT/Silent Hills because he's a huge fan of Twin Peaks, Evangelion, and Solaris. He's even tweeted about how Twin Peaks and other media reminds him of PT.
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The only dollar bill to have this purple design is the 5 dollar one.
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>>40902936
Twin Peaks was pretty popular in Japan apparently, left quite the impression on them. Anno probably saw it and it's a small reference.
You can also see the TP influences in Silent Hill and Persona 4.
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>>40907449
Eh... I'm not so sure. Those earrings appear in the background of that shot only. Very subtle and very brief. For maybe a second or two when Audrey turns to respond to Cooper or something, if I recall. Never again. They're never shown up close either. It's possible his unconscious logged and replicated it elsewhere but it's a stretch. I only saw it because I was fixated on Ritsuko's earrings.
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>>40896790
Just remembering who she is again. Judy's trapped in the show now (the Glass Box), and (you) the viewer helped being one of the cameras in the room. Because we're all detectives as Lynch has literally said, and Cooper's one of us.
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>>40874996
>I think Mulholland Drive is the most straightforward example. Twin peaks way more esoteric.

Most efficient. It has plenty to chew on. [spoiler]Selwynite: blue metallic ore. Diana & Acteon Myth replayed in the beginning going down the hill to the shower at Aunt Ruth's; recursion back there to the dinner party with the limo-- Winkies being a regular haunt of Lynch's until Church of Satan founder came one day with an evil vibe; Camelot location shoots; Parts of Lynch & Frost's Marilyn Monroe biopic incorporated into it; Midnight Cowboy callbacks; Diane's apartment complex in the style of Snow White thatched roof cabins built by 'imagineers' out of work before Walt Disney could hire them back at full pay.[/spoiler]
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>>40875004
>sussy ass flower dress
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>>40875010
>Twin peaks is the gritty reality of the worst of the worst. It seems like a good theory at least that cooper is a figment of Laura’s imagination and that in reality there was no grand investigation to her murder.

[spoiler]Audrey's imagination. NON-EX-IST-ANCE. That's the mirror in the Return. Cooper's the one that goes diegetic with us across the 4th wall. TULPAS: Lynch shows his cards in the high school bathroom with Donna, with the Red electricity stripe on the walls, "I feel like I know her..."[/spoiler]
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>>40907449
And Alan Wake 1 + 2, *especially* 2.

Hell, the 2nd game reminds me of Twin Peaks more than anything else I can think of.
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>>40875048
>hheeeerre aaare WE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF7lFHuwi3E

Continuity 'errors' looking at the cars passing outside of Ed's gas station, makes you wonder--
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>>40876691
>Phillip Gerard
>Phillip Jeffries
>Mike

These need parsing astrologically. When we see Gerard in show or FWWM, I like to think that we've got Mike himself with Cooper in the lodge, the way he used Richard/Mr. C ect.
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>>40876849
Tell us about the woman in the spade with 17 stars.
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>>40877209
>315 is obviously pi + 1

Reduction 9
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>>40878323
>Diane (the Huntress), Artemis, from Persian "Immortal Truth"
>Selwyn(it): Blue Metal
>stepped lid: like a security safe
>Location: Aunt Ruth's Hat Box
>How does Diane pay the hitman? That's where she stole the money. The Detectives may have only been investigating that.

Midnight Cowboy opens with sexual violence, then male prostitution. Some of the producers in the audition scene look A LOT like female and male characters from it.

>"Yo NUNCA fui con Luigi!?" At the party. Sure you weren't, Camilla, you dirty dog. The Girl whispers in her ear, with The Cowboy passing right to left out onto the pool deck outside:

>"The Cowboy wants to see you outside."

That's still a dream with in the dream, too.
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>>40878391
>Lynch: I literally believe in Angels and Laura is one of them

Laura only exists in the show for us. Could say she was an angel of light.
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>>40878596
>the etheric body

All those nerves are electricity and 'biophoton' light. The other Arm-Body? The ravenous meat.
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>>40878655
>red mercury
>white/black lead
>Alchemical phases including Yellowing sometimes

Can't be too anagogically wedded to correspondences, they're just guides.
Anonymous No.40907954 [Report]
Noticing more red balloons and sunflowers
Anonymous No.40907962 [Report]
And yes i already know about the pedo symbolism of red balloon etc. I'm more interested in all this dog stuff. No its not just some simple lame Sirius explanation /three legged dog
Anonymous No.40908002 [Report] >>40908115 >>40908201
Purple Huckleberry extract
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What statue is that
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More masonic three dots
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>>40901944
Hmmm
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>>40908002
Yellow very prominent on this rewatch
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>>40874782 (OP)
What the dreamer has to do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWBwJk1f-gs
Internal wise old man gives assistance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKhHoh_H350&list=PLZbXA4lyCtqojUqTv4P-GpjYF7hU_qVmt&index=12
then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1THDLgL_bs