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Anonymous No.40905241 >>40905327 >>40905419 >>40905444 >>40905447 >>40905466 >>40905482 >>40905506 >>40905517 >>40905522 >>40905783 >>40905966 >>40905981 >>40905991 >>40908765 >>40909045 >>40909473 >>40909676 >>40913351 >>40913359 >>40917021 >>40917086 >>40917139 >>40917153 >>40918203 >>40919298 >>40920815 >>40921478 >>40921511 >>40921547 >>40922525 >>40922889 >>40923071 >>40923108 >>40923148 >>40923415 >>40926449 >>40926888 >>40930415
Reincarnation debunked with a simple question
If life on Earth goes extinct, what happens to the souls that were supposed to reincarnate?
LUCIFER !!P38zFLDUYUh No.40905296 >>40905305 >>40922525 >>40926458
do you see the other planets

souls will be sent to worlds as appropriate
Anonymous No.40905305 >>40905434 >>40908257 >>40916828 >>40918190
>>40905296
How? Will multicellular life suddenly materialize out of thin air?
Anonymous No.40905327
>>40905241 (OP)
>The concept of the vegetative soul refers to the lowest level of soul in a hierarchical model of life, primarily associated with plants and responsible for the fundamental processes of life such as growth, nutrition, and reproduction.

>The autonomic nervous system (ANS) is a division of the peripheral nervous system responsible for regulating involuntary bodily functions essential for survival, such as heart rate, blood pressure, respiration, digestion, and pupillary response. It operates unconsciously, maintaining homeostasis through continuous, automatic control of internal organs, smooth muscle, and glands. The ANS is also known as the vegetative or involuntary nervous system

>Scientists are actively searching for signs of alien vegetation in outer space by analyzing the light reflected from distant exoplanets. The primary method involves detecting a specific signature known as the "vegetation red edge," where photosynthetic organisms reflect near-infrared light more strongly than visible light, creating a detectable fingerprint in the planet's spectrum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_body
You become a space faring disembodied spirit that transmigrates to a far off alien planet that can communicate with the living through dreams and liminal states of consciousness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyx
>she is a winged figure driving a chariot pulled by four horses, with stars dotted above her head
>The "Celestial Orrey" (or Orrery) is a powerful weapon in the Warhammer 40k universe, described as a holographic map of all the stars in the galaxy. Tapping on a star on this map causes its real-life counterpart to go supernova, making it an immensely destructive device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFC7y6Ao3Ug
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_consciousness
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintillating_scotoma
Anonymous No.40905419
>>40905241 (OP)
>If life on Earth goes extinct, what happens to the souls that were supposed to reincarnate?

They go to a different planet or galaxy, or they return to the singularity before finding another planet after another big bang
Anonymous No.40905434 >>40922478
>>40905305
Earth is not the only place with multicellular life
憑巫 !!ue/NGfyyHOu No.40905444
>>40905241 (OP)
Then you get a bunch of sexy rocks, a bunch of sexy sea life, and a ton of the worst scum of the earth on the moon. Duh.

But more seriously you just reincarnate and go exist somewhere else.
Anonymous No.40905447
>>40905241 (OP)
It’s a good question but given how large the universe is souls could potentially just be redirected to other planets that sustain life.

Not to mention IF there’s other dimensions

I would guess the planets have to have the hardware (a environment for living things) so that the software (our consciousness) can operate
Anonymous No.40905466
>>40905241 (OP)
Maybe on another planet. Maybe until there's life again. It's not like people immediately reincarnate.
Anonymous No.40905482 >>40922483
>>40905241 (OP)
God you're stupid.
Anonymous No.40905506 >>40922489
>>40905241 (OP)
Why do you assume that whatever processes guide reincarnation have to follow our limited linear perception of time?
Who says you can't reincarnate as somebody who lived 500 years before you or will live 500 hundred years after you die? Who said there aren't any other incarnations of your soul living right now?
Anonymous No.40905517 >>40917169
>>40905241 (OP)
I traveled to another world last night in my dream. It was as simple as looking at a star, deciding I wanted to go there, and empowering my intention to move with unbending intent until I reached it.
Anonymous No.40905522
>>40905241 (OP)
You're too focused on this material universe, beings will not always reincarnate "here"
Anonymous No.40905625
Even a dead planet can be animated to life. If enough of a soul swarm attached or is drawn to a planet, life will develop there.
Anonymous No.40905783
>>40905241 (OP)
You reincarnate as a butterfly
Anonymous No.40905966
>>40905241 (OP)
There are immaterial realms in samsara (hells, realm of the hungry ghosts, the realm of asuras and the realm of the devas, pure lands), I imagine we'd sit it out there till a new material world forms. Hope t his helps
Anonymous No.40905981 >>40930628
>>40905241 (OP)
Reincarnation is streetshitter delusion.
Anonymous No.40905991
>>40905241 (OP)
What if we traveled back in time to an alternate timeline?
Anonymous No.40906034 >>40906068
I don't even need to bring up other planets to answer this.
Time is not linear.
Anonymous No.40906068 >>40917081
>>40906034
>Time is not linear.
Is there any evidence for this? My current understanding thereof is that of movement changing the state of something at it's smallest possible scale, chainreacting into the greatest, and in this scenario only a force capable of undoing said movement (by performing the opposite) could possibly reverse time.
Anonymous No.40908257
>>40905305
Yes, or do you think Earth was always populated by eukariotae?
Anonymous No.40908765 >>40922511
>>40905241 (OP)
You in particular? You get reborn as a cell inside the vagina of a fat smelly woman.
Anonymous No.40909045 >>40909065
>>40905241 (OP)
They reincarnate into the past.
Anonymous No.40909065
>>40909045
This. Time is a frisbee.
Anonymous No.40909473
>>40905241 (OP)
For dust we are and to dust we will return and from dust we will be again
Anonymous No.40909676 >>40911182
>>40905241 (OP)
Reincarnation can be debunked if you believe in other theories also. Or certain things. Because if you believe in reincarnation then you have to believe in other things that go hand in hand with it. If you believe in something that's contradictive then you dont believe in reincarnation. Super simple concept. So if you believe in something. Be able to back it up.
Anonymous No.40910065
they spend eternity sucking their own cock in a 69 in the form of a cantolope
Anonymous No.40911182 >>40914339
Nothing, anon.
We are biological beings, it's impossible to exist outside our bodies
Because are bodies ARE who we are.

The brain is responsible for consciousness and existing, the moment it runs out of oxygen and the blood flow stops we cease to exist
Just like before we were born.

We never existed forever ,then we are born to experience life for a mere flash in time to pay taxes to a bunch of Jewish pedophiles who run the world then die in poverty after a life of misery

Then we cease to exist forever and will never get to experience life again.

Memories, hopes and dreams, tears and laughs, all of it gone forever .>>40909676
Anonymous No.40913351
>>40905241 (OP)
I don't know. How does that debunk reincarnation?
Anonymous No.40913359
>>40905241 (OP)
>supposed to
Seems like you are making an assumption and demanding other people explain it.
憑巫 !!ue/NGfyyHOu No.40914339
>>40911182
I would have been able to believe this, I think, before the possession. But language, motor skills, etc have all changed suddenly post-possession.

My very own muscle memory is different. So a little background: before this I was never able to hold chopsticks right. I could use them, sure, but like a kid holding a pencil wrong that still manages to make it mostly work.

That changed the first time Megamisama got her - my - hands on chopsticks. She even does these little gestures or flourishes I shouldn’t possess the motor skills for. Then, on top of this, one day the hand was too inflamed and weird to be able to use chopsticks at all. She got frustrated, did a probably a minute tops of calibration of some kind, and then proceeded to just casually use the other hand with correct chopstick etiquette and grasp like it was nothing.
Anonymous No.40916828 >>40922521
>>40905305
Never heard of bions?!
Anonymous No.40917021
>>40905241 (OP)
The God of this world knows all life to be lived on this planet. If the planet stops producing human life, it already knew that. Who gives a fuck about this little theater/farm/prison when there are so many to choose from in this universe?
Anonymous No.40917081 >>40922526
>>40906068
This is how it works:
The way you expect it to be:
>You break a glass bottle, so in the past it was complete, in the present it's breaking, and in the future it'll be broken
The way it actually is:
>There was no glass bottle but a superposition of possibilities, when you go away, it vanishes, when you come back, it reassembles itself to the form you know, it can be the full one, or it can be the broken one, but your consciousness is reassembling it.
What you expect:
>If you go away and never go back and nobody knows about it, someone may go there and find the pieces of the bottle.
What actually happens:
>It goes back to a state of superpositions, if someone goes there and finds the broken bottle, your story can be reassembled to justify it, but it can also be a different story with someone else breaking it. Or they can find a gold bar with its corresponding story of how it got there.
If nobody is around to hear it and a tree falls, it doesn't make a noise because it doesn't exist, it can't fall if nobody perceives that it does, if you go there instead of a fallen tree tree you can find a bear, or a bunny.
The past creates a narrative in real time to justify the present, but otherwise, all things what could have happened are in a fluid state.
Anonymous No.40917086 >>40917109
>>40905241 (OP)
>If life on Earth goes extinct
Not possible unless the dance stops altogether (it won't)
Anonymous No.40917109 >>40917148
>>40917086
What about the other species of animals that have gone extinct? All these talks are anthropocentric but if we are were buffaloes we'd not care about the extinction of humans.
Anonymous No.40917139
>>40905241 (OP)
>what do you mean there's 44 quadrillion other places to go
Anonymous No.40917148
>>40917109
Who says humans are the "life" that has to progress?
We could be a bunch of homo-futuris people or eldritch horrors or like super smart conscious squirrels...
Anonymous No.40917153 >>40917183
>>40905241 (OP)
If I off myself what will become of my soul? Asking for a fren
Anonymous No.40917169
>>40905517
lol. the interpretation of your dream is that you're deluded by the self perception of your greatness.
Anonymous No.40917183
>>40917153
in several religious traditions you will eternally repeat your suicide.
>shinto
>buddhist
>chinese folk lore
>islamic
Anonymous No.40917511
Quantum earth. It will find it's new timeline
Anonymous No.40918190
>>40905305
It happened here didn't it, so in theory it could occur on other planets.
Anonymous No.40918203 >>40922537 >>40922542
>>40905241 (OP)
people actually do believe in this shit? it's sad how this board has been off topic and this fucking stupid since like 2014. just change the board from being "paranormal" to "spiritual and religion" or some gay shit. this is ridiculous.
Anonymous No.40919298
>>40905241 (OP)
we need a religion and spirituality board tbhdesu
Varde No.40919308 >>40919314 >>40922549
OP is one of the most modernized versions of the educated stupid via academia who was groomed into thinking that reincarnation means you only respawn on Earth.
Varde No.40919314
>>40919308
Reincarnation is a group thing. If there's no group. There's no reincarnation.
Anonymous No.40919537
Anonymous No.40920815
>>40905241 (OP)
They're finally Free!
Anonymous No.40921478 >>40921484 >>40921547
>>40905241 (OP)
>If life on Earth goes extinct, what happens to the souls that were supposed to reincarnate?

Since we are here on the planet MILLIONS of years. And continue reincarnating here.

Let me give you basics .
1. Young souls can reincarnate into a level 1.
Grass, flowers, trees etc.
2. Less young souls can reincarnate into a level 2 - Animals.
3. Souls with more experience can reincarnate into a level 3.

We have 2 rules, Law of Free Will and Law of Confusion on the planet.
Free Will means you can go for 3+ , 4+ , 5+ AND 3- , 4- etc. so you can play here for negative characters.
You may lose Karma point playing for negative characters (if you kill people, rape etc . you may lose a LOT of Karma points).
Law of Confusion means Souls that reincarnate here forget about previous reincarnations, to make the game more interesting.

So .
You are not a meat sack, you are not your body.
Your body is a suit, an Avatar that you use when you reincarnate here .

You are a Soul/ Energy Being / Subconscious.
Soul is eternal and lives forever.

Some of the old souls are going to thousands of reincarnations btw.

Since we know some young souls may decide to go full retard and, say , start a nuclear war and kill all humans.
There are backups after backups after backups.

1. Truth Field
>everything that is true and happened is recorded there and can be accessed by higher entity souls
2. There are human bodies in hybernation all over the planet
3. There are libraries of knowledge and more human bodies in hybernation in high mountains , inaccessible by evil.
>if you come anywhere close and you don't have good intentions you will be killed
Say...... in Himalayas . In Europe in Swiss alps .
Anonymous No.40921484
>>40921478
>3. Souls with more experience can reincarnate into a level 3.
- Humans.
Anonymous No.40921511
>>40905241 (OP)
>Reincarnation debunked with a simple question
>debunked
Gonna have to try harder than that.
As for the answer - easy. There are many worlds in the universe and there may be a lot of time between incarnations. Our sun could go outright supernova and it's uncertain it'd be really noticeable in the scope of our galaxy, yet alone untold number of other galaxies.
There will be places to incarnate at, at any level of spiritual development, for any length of foreseeable future.
Anonymous No.40921547 >>40921566 >>40922567
>>40921478
>>40905241 (OP)
Me again .
There are the Creator, very high level entities of Love and Light, and a few more entities
that control energy and time on the planet.
Basically , Server Administrators.

What is likely to happen is that an event that would cause , say planetary nuclear annihilation,
WILL BE OVERWRITTEN and won't be allowed to happen most likely.
The Creator and Love and Light admins have full and complete control of time and energy , and the event leading to a nuclear war most likely won't be allowed.

So. Be Nice to each other, play nice, and you won't be expelled / banned from the Server.
Anonymous No.40921566 >>40921590
>>40921547
>very high level entities of Love and Light
Those keep away from any but most subtle influence. Others who you take for such - aren't.
Some mystics interacted with such who coldly admitted they don't share our values or care about our well-being but since emanating pleasant feelings is trivially easy for them and it makes people compliant, it'd be wasteful and unwise to not do that.
>So. Be Nice to each other, play nice, and you won't be expelled / banned from the Server.
Oh the naivety. Most of the userbase would love to leave, but we're reset kept for admins benefit.
Anonymous No.40921590 >>40922467
>>40921566
>Most of the userbase would love to leave, but we're reset kept for admins benefit.
Alright.
We are crossing the darkest period of the planet you can call it Kali Yuga, or whatever.
Time period when negative forces are the strongest .
Since you have Free Will here, at one time or the other it was decided to let you play your own games here.
Unfortunately, this turned into a disaster , as various versions of negative entities and Satanists multiplied like crazy .
And they started killing and destroying all the bearers of the light.
This was deemed going to far. So there's a team of the Love and Light agents AND Souls ,
souls that decided to be the rescuers and reincarnate into the darkest possible time.
You are all these brave souls that agreed to reincarnate at the darkest possible time and save the planet.
We admire your bravery here.

>btw since your body is your suit, if you are in some serious problems - like in constant pain, cancer, a slave etc.
>you can kill your body avatar and your soul will leave this hell.
>don't advise to just randomly keep killing yourself because you are here for a reason
Anonymous No.40922467 >>40922723
>>40921590
>You are all these brave souls
That is also a common lie, pushed to make people feel better about themselves, feel special and bear "suggestions" of those various entities out of source of duty. In reality all but souls stable and refined enough to maintain coherence without a body indefinitely - and many/most are not - would be forced to incarnate anyway, but now they let themselves be exploited, seeing it as a "brave and important endeavor for the sake of all".
>you can kill your body avatar and your soul will leave this hell
And, again, if you won't sufficiently develop spiritually till then - and most of our mundane lives develop us against it - you will be forced back into said hell and with crap development, denied memory of it.

Also, an uncomfortable truth is that most of people's "me", they perceive themselves as is not their spiritual component. Most cannot even perceive yet alone express ego and self-awareness from its perspective. Which means almost assuredly you're not the pilot of your meat suit - you ARE that suit, and you as a person you know yourself as will die together with the body, it's just some of you will imprint itself on to feed and refine the soul behind you - and quite a lot will be torn and processed for benefit of those other entities.

>you can kill your body avatar and your soul will leave this hell
Anonymous No.40922478 >>40922515
>>40905434
Interesting. What other planets do?
Anonymous No.40922483
>>40905482
Totally. What a dumb question right?
Anonymous No.40922489
>>40905506
I agree. Applying logic to illogical things is pointless
Anonymous No.40922511
>>40908765
Yo that’s crazy, I just reincarnated in your mom last night.
Anonymous No.40922515 >>40922577
>>40922478
They're all over the galaxy and there are many other galaxies with them, too many to name.
Anonymous No.40922521
>>40916828
Nobody has. But it’s provocative!
Anonymous No.40922525
>>40905241 (OP)
>>40905296
there are other worlds that were seeded with life just to extract loosh from. we're probably one of them. this is thanks to abraxas of the orion empire. he is the son of the demiurge who found his father and swore fealty to him and agreed to corrupt the orion empire from the inside by taking control of media, education, money, army, and entertainment in the orion empire
Anonymous No.40922526
>>40917081
I am a quantum scientist. Can confirm.
Anonymous No.40922537
>>40918203
It’s sad how you’ve been on this board for that long. What are you even doing with your life anon?
Anonymous No.40922542
>>40918203
I think what happened is your grew up to be a gay faggot
Anonymous No.40922549
>>40919308
I set the respawn point inside your mom last night anon.
Anonymous No.40922567 >>40922675
>>40921547
This guy read the FAQ.
Anonymous No.40922577 >>40922622 >>40922635 >>40923045
>>40922515
Ah I see. You can name one though right?
Anonymous No.40922622
>>40922577
sh-SHUDDUP!
Anonymous No.40922635 >>40922642 >>40922653
>>40922577
Not with words you could pronounce in your head, no.
Anonymous No.40922642
>>40922635
[citation needed]
Anonymous No.40922653
>>40922635
I’ll run it through google translate. Send it.
Anonymous No.40922675
>>40922567
Yeah thank you anon you are kind. I helped to write the FAQ.
Anonymous No.40922723 >>40923686
>>40922467
>>you can kill your body avatar and your soul will leave this hell
>>And, again, if you won't sufficiently develop spiritually till then you will be forced back into said hell
No. That's what current admin of the hell wants you to believe.
>you may also have a very specific dirty contract with negative entities
>but most of those contracts were canceled recently
So. Your Souls agreed to reincarnate here into this hell of a situation to figure out who you are, wake up,
and be the bearers of Love and Light.

You agreed and there are no other contracts with negative entities that keep you here.
So, you can leave any time by killing yourself.
And a lot of souls are currently leaving, since we are raising planetary vibration (which negative entities / negative karma beings can't handle), and since the satanists have tried to start another world war.

Since you are here in a very expensive suit / Avatar that we've been developing for millions of years and who are the most advanced biological organism on the planet, pls be careful with the bodies.

>And if you are afraid of dying, pls reincarnate into a jellyfish next time which lives forever here.
Anonymous No.40922889 >>40922896
>>40905241 (OP)
They go somewhere else. This is just a retarded game/snuff film for God to get off to. The world ending is part of the play.
Anonymous No.40922896
>>40922889
That’s shits deep anon. Did you come up with that all on your own?
Anonymous No.40923045
>>40922577
nta but the theory goes that Saturn's moon Titan is inhabited by humans and they are as slaved as we are here
Anonymous No.40923071 >>40923109
>>40905241 (OP)
Souls are immaterial. What happens to a drop of water when the wave breaks? It was never separate from the ocean.

But this sure does break the whole prison world jesus geo centric bullshit
Anonymous No.40923108 >>40923126
>>40905241 (OP)
you know why "life after death" is real? why you will continue to exist in one form or the other? because dying and everything ending pitch black nothingness would be too good to be true. You are here forever. We are actually immortal, that sounds good at first right? but just like the god from LOTR Eru Ilúvatar, everything we ever do would be part of his "music". Yes God is us but the I is also real and that's also who you are, an immortal Boundless God and a limited personality, I, Myself etc. So in a way you are making the song and also dancing it, so bizarre like both free will and determinitism exist at the same time... idk man we will find out sooner or later either way
Anonymous No.40923109 >>40923128
>>40923071
>It was never separate from the ocean.
Yes it was. The drop of water wouldn't be a drop if it wasn't separate from the ocean. And once it returns to the ocean, it ceases to be a drop.
Anonymous No.40923126 >>40925845
>>40923108
Ah, LOTR references are highly relatable. I’m going to steal this argument.
Anonymous No.40923128 >>40923153
>>40923109
I would urge you to separate a drop without removing it from the water
Anonymous No.40923148
>>40905241 (OP)
0 evidence was presented, just cheap reasoning, and with cheap I mean affirdable for grade d minds, not so very skilled it looks gay
Anonymous No.40923153
>>40923128
I tried so hard and got so far. But in the end it didn’t really matter.
Anonymous No.40923415
>>40905241 (OP)
So what happens is the earth and the life on it are gonna keep evolving and evolving. We're gonna evolve past the need for physical bodies, we'll be able to switch bodies possibly and we'll evolve into an intergalactic species and start branching off the planet onto other planets and motherships in space.

This also changes the types of souls that'll be coming here because the vibration will be different, so it'll be a different experience. Only the souls who match the vibration of the planet during whatever time it's in can come here. We're here because our vibration and the things we needed to learn as souls matched with the vibration of this planet and where it's at in its evolution right now.

The earth won't just disappear one day. It's gonna gradually erode over thousands of years so less and less souls will be coming here. By the time it's gone we'll probably have seeded 5 new earths by then and started this process all over on another planet and the souls will start to reincarnate there. There're infinite planets out there with life on them. There're other earthlike planets with humans on them, not the same, but very similar. There's waterworlds, you name it. Already out there. We just aren't allowed to know about them because the economy might collapse and the scammers that run it will have to tell everyone that the whole world is a giant Ponzi scheme ran by religious people who work with aliens.
Anonymous No.40923686
>>40922723
I can only advise you this as you drank New Age coolaid whole, without critically looking at it or the sources for its teachings:
Contest, question and verify such things, check traditions predating the dilettante "Love and Light" New Age crowd, like gnosticism, question entities and their motivations if you can contact them, steel your heart and approach them politelly but neutrally ESPECIALLY when they'll emanate feelings of love and joy while being dismissive/patronising to get their way instead of respectfully presenting arguments to sway you.

You were sold feel-good bullshit so you won't test your boundaries, improve and get beyond circumstances forced upon you. The best cattle is one not struggling against its situation but happily doing what is expected of it, including one-way trip to the slaughterhouse.
Anonymous No.40923798 >>40928080 >>40929033
My only question about reincarnation if we have a creator that judges us based on the actions in our lives is "which life will we be judged on if we can't remember the previous ones?". How could we improve without memory of -why- we got recycled in the first place?
Anonymous No.40925845 >>40926466 >>40929023
>>40923126
I believe everything in the lotr actually happened. I believe Tolkien received all this information from either aliens or the divine and made it a tale
Anonymous No.40926449
>>40905241 (OP)
DOESNT WORK LIKE THAT!

EGG OR CHICKEN!
Anonymous No.40926458
>>40905296
doesnt matter most of these dipshits dont even have a soul.
Anonymous No.40926466
>>40925845
He had access to Oxford libraries and C.S. Lewis as a friend.
That's all it takes to dismantle the Big Lie, really. An available repository of information and a good friend to collaborate with.
Anonymous No.40926888
>>40905241 (OP)
Bait, but there are parallel realities and universes, in one parallel universe that is possible and in another it is not, each being travels to the parallel universe or reality that they want
Anonymous No.40928080 >>40929013
>>40923798
I don't know what happens, but if there's a God/judge that cares and isn't a hostile loose farmer, they're probably not dicks. If reincarnation is real and it's not this hostile memory wipe, we might have an oversoul that is all of your past lives that you return to. Like waking up from a dream, you are both yourself after dying but also saying "Wow that was a goofy 50 years. Anyway, back to eternity."

I need to get redpilled on if this is a hostile loose farm we live in. And if the people saying you DO just get to opt out if you don't fall for jew tricks. I don't want to be tricked when I am in a susceptible state as I'm dying/after dying.
Anonymous No.40929013 >>40929033 >>40931214
>>40928080
The memory wipe may be not a thing that happens intentionally/by design, at least not fully - though it's believable entities who'd want us in control would "help" the natural process to make it much more thorough than it'd be otherwise.
You see, clueless/dilettante dabblers tend to think of reincarnation as "you getting new bodies".

That is wrong.

Without a considerable degree of spiritual development and integration with subtle bodies, average person, the way they think, perceive and think ARE the body. Those bodies haven't existed before to have a full set of memories before birth and when they (we) will die, it will be their final death... after a fashion.

You see, there IS a spirit, but it's like a driver behind us. What we see, learn, experience, call forth to fuel our thoughts and emotions etc will shape, enrich and refine it (assuming it won't be stripped, which may be the true nature of what tards call "loosh"), the way experiences of a character in a game or a movie we're fully immersed in affects/shapes us as viewers.

With greater spiritual development/integration - more of what makes us will pass on to be part of the spirit and vice versa (that's why some individuals do have fragmentary recall of past lives and spiritual abilities). Or with certain workaround (it's why some occult traditions make creation of body of light/spiritual body double/golden vessel, what-have-you a priority - it's to serve as a container keeping more/this aspect of our consciousness functional even when the flesh dies).

I know it's disheartening to those who do fear death and as I've just mentioned there are ways to kinda manage it but we're not just one mind stretching through dimensions, our thoughts and memories are synchonized between our brain and its counterparts in our subtler bodies.
Anonymous No.40929023
>>40925845
Yo same but with Harry Potter. That shits real son. Jk Rowling is actually a wizard
Anonymous No.40929033 >>40931214
>>40929013
>>40923798
I guess I'll address this while we're at it.

We're not judged the way you think. There's no divine good/badboi code we're measured against. It's just karma that affects and aligns us with certain results. Not as punishment or reward (which is also dumbass corruption of karma's meaning), just a natural result of thoughts, emotions, our nature that shapes world's reaction and response toward such karmic imbalance we see as rewarding/punishing. That's why it cannot be truly cheated and reaches the essence of us - because it's not an external entity evaluating us but we directly adding another stroke to the painting of our fate and form with every thought, held value and action.

>How could we improve without memory of -why- we got recycled in the first place?
Now, having memory would help making informed decisions but as mentioned in previous post, there's some impact and advancement of the soul anyway that affects its future fate. So while you don't hold (at least till getting a higher degree of spiritual development) full wisdom of previous incarnations, their wisdom will slightly affect you and who you are, what decisions you make now, for better or worse. It's not ideal (and may be indeed be made worse by exploitative entities) but over lifetimes adding up to not insignificant effect
Anonymous No.40930415 >>40931214
>>40905241 (OP)
You're operating from a materialist viewpoint that matter takes primacy and that spirit relies on material to exist. It's the opposite. We project into bodies that are simply low vibration energetic faraday cages.
To answer your question: humans would stay on the astral plane until another suitable material vessel becomes available (if they wanted to incarnate at all). If they wanted they could also incarnate as other lower forms of life including vegetal and mineral beings. Consciousness can take on any form it chooses, we aren't locked in to being any specific type of "soul" after death.
Reincarnation has already been extensively studied and pretty much proven at this point, even in the mainstream
Anonymous No.40930628
>>40905981
There were gnostics in occitania i think
And streetshitters preserved some of an ancient religion
Anonymous No.40931214 >>40931741
>>40930415
>Reincarnation has already been extensively studied and pretty much proven at this point, even in the mainstream
These statements are a hyperbole bordering on a lie. There's quite some knowledge on it in occult circles, including mechanics of it mentioned at >>40929013 and >>40929033 but in the mainstream even existence of spiritual in general is still questioned, yet alone phenomena based off of it "proven".
Anonymous No.40931741 >>40931878
>>40931214
Belief is the enemy of knowledge. Don't accuse me of lying because you're ignorant and haven't researched enough.
It's been proven by the CIA multiple times over. Several books have been published by para psychologists all over the world based on multiple accounts of regression hypnosis, NDEs, etc. The most obvious are the cases of children who know (verifiably and in extreme detail) past lives long before they would have any way of hearing about it from a textbook or other source. Like 3-5 years old. And all of this was common knowledge before the industrial age/rationalism age
Anonymous No.40931878
>>40931741
The sources you mention tend to be also questioned and not considered a solid proof. CIA merely expressed interest and did experiments on potential applications of psychic abilities. They did NOT even speculate too much, yet alone prove astral planes, the nature of soul etc and to claim otherwise is being dishonest. Similarly many published books are belittled and at most treated as a curiosity, its "evidence" circumstantial and anecdotic, especially the ones based on children testimonies.
>And all of this was common knowledge before the industrial age/rationalism age
No, that was a belief, not established knowledge any more than many other, even current belief systems, common yet outright denying or even opposing such things, instead, for example, claiming one life and an eternity in some afterlife.

Thus, while I may share your belief and even have experiences stemming from my practices supporting some of these notions -I reiterate that likening it to established scientific theorems is "a hyperbole bordering on a lie".
Anonymous No.40934302
Still reading but good thread overall.
More tips on how to develop in a way I won't be mindwiped?