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Anonymous No.40971134 >>40971149 >>40971159 >>40971336 >>40971361 >>40971585 >>40971723 >>40971827 >>40972033 >>40972118 >>40972129 >>40972280 >>40972407 >>40972457
Lucifer is the hero and example. YHWH ("God", Satan) is the villain. Wake up.
Anonymous No.40971149 >>40971155
>>40971134 (OP)
Facts
Yahweh is just a nation Semitic god who absorbed Baal’s powers
EL is any better
Anonymous No.40971155
>>40971149
>isnt
Anonymous No.40971159 >>40971163 >>40971305
>>40971134 (OP)
Fuck you. I'm already woke. Lucifer, Yaya and Satan are all the same asshole.
Anonymous No.40971163 >>40971176
>>40971159
The Christian God is the "red pill", the Christian Satan is the "blue pill". Lucifer calls the entire game fake and gay and refuses to play.
Anonymous No.40971176 >>40971189
>>40971163
They're all the same asshole, you retard.
Anonymous No.40971189 >>40971236
>>40971176
Nope. Lucifer was the first to exit the simulation and call it what it is. The emblem of freedom.
Anonymous No.40971236 >>40971270
>>40971189
Nope. You're a moron. Lucifer is the set of keys jangled in front of your eyes to stupefy you. Stay in your illusion, idiot.
Anonymous No.40971270 >>40971290
>>40971236
Enjoy your Bible shit, Bible believer. Lucifer isn't even originally from the Bible.
Anonymous No.40971290
>>40971270
Why would a bible thumper say Lucifer and Yahweh are the same guy? You're worse than a moron. You're a woman. Enjoy your cosmic Eddie Murphy fat suit theater, numbskull.
Anonymous No.40971295 >>40971314 >>40971322
I fucked your mother.
Anonymous No.40971305 >>40971342
>>40971159
Not according to the religions that you jews copypasta’d
I used to believe you guys until I discovered Steiner and the earlier religions like Zoroastrian
Anonymous No.40971314
>>40971295
You fucked ashes, homie. Kinda gross but if my late mom's getting some action, I'm happy for her.
Anonymous No.40971316 >>40971329 >>40971330
In Judaism YHWH refers to two figures. One is the one true god, and the other is the 'lesser YHWH' who controls the world but was punished for letting people believe he was also God.

Jesus claims to come from the one true god.
Anonymous No.40971322
Why do Abrahamic believers get so mad at people who point out the origins of their own belief system
>>40971295
I hope you find peace and don’t feel the need to be so angry
I hope we all do
God bless you op, I agree with yours and the esoteric interpretations
It’s much more believable than what the church preaches
Anonymous No.40971329 >>40971359
>>40971316
Where does it say yhwh is two different gods?
Anonymous No.40971330 >>40971359 >>40971359
>>40971316
>In Judaism YHWH refers to two figures. One is the one true god, and the other is the 'lesser YHWH'
Nope. You just made that shit up. There is one (1) YHWH
Anonymous No.40971336 >>40971344
>>40971134 (OP)
>My cool uncle who wants me to leave my parents, do a shitload of drugs, party every day and have sex with random strangers every night is the hero and example
>My asshole dad who wants me to do lame shit like brush my teeth, clean my room, study hard and get a job is the villain
I mean it's your life, do whatever you want with it
Anonymous No.40971342
>>40971305
Who the fuck is "you jews", you dumb fuck? I'm ethnically Dutch and Irish, and spiritually just "fuck all religious lies". And Zoroastrianism was a reform movement that restructured an earlier Persian polytheistic religion.
Anonymous No.40971344
>>40971336
The "asshole dad" commanded the israelites kill babies because of who their parents were. I am against killing babies.
Anonymous No.40971359 >>40972398
>>40971329
>>40971330

>Where does it say YHWH is two different Gods?

In Exodusd when God assigns an angel to watch over the israelites and tells them that this angel has his name within it.

The later texts describe this figure as the lesser YHWH, and since both use the same name you are able to refer to one or the other as you wish. This is no different than the other word for God they use 'Elohim' which is used in some passages for the one true God and some for the many other Gods/angels.

in 3 Enoch YHWH punishes the lesser YHWH for letting others believe that he was also a God.

>>40971330

My advice is to just ask instead of insisting people make things up whenever you meet new information lol
Anonymous No.40971361 >>40971366 >>40971404 >>40972554
>>40971134 (OP)
Satan, by definition of what he is, is the enemy/adversary/opponent of the Biblical God.

Lucifer is a made up entity that doesn't really appear biblically, used for homosexual teenagers on the internet because they have lust for pretty evil blonde boys.

The real question is. When will you stop larping?
Anonymous No.40971366
>>40971361
When you stop larping.
Anonymous No.40971404 >>40971458
>>40971361
>is the enemy/adversary/opponent of the Biblical God.

Yeah that's why he explicitly works for God all throughout the old testament. Fuck off retard.
Anonymous No.40971458 >>40971467 >>40971469
>>40971404
>he works for God by doing things opposite of God against God's nature
Ok retard. Any other great theories?
Anonymous No.40971467 >>40971482
>>40971458
Keep in mind you are talking about the same who who himself sent deceiving spirits against the Israelites. This is the same god who says he never lies btw
Anonymous No.40971469 >>40971482
>>40971458
You've been fooled by cosmic kayfabe. Fucking moron.
Anonymous No.40971482 >>40971490 >>40971508
>>40971467
Nice tangential off topic rant. Satan is still clearly not the same character as God and is very very clearly presented as the adversary.

>>40971469
Ye ye you have it all figured out. Being gay is actually straight! Yay logic.
Anonymous No.40971490 >>40971507
>>40971482
No. You're definitely gay and not straight. There's no mistaking that. But that's irrelevant. What's more important is that you're a fucking moron who has allowed himself to be fooled by a fake dichotomy. Yay stupid fuck.
Anonymous No.40971504
I'm a son of God, and he loves me. That's what real freedom looks like, you crybaby.
Anonymous No.40971507 >>40971546
>>40971490
You're right man. You have this universe figured out.
You DON'T need water or food. It's just the cosmic kayfabe trying to trick you. Please don't drink water or eat food from now on. It's not necessary and God's trick against you, because he is actually Satan.
Anonymous No.40971508 >>40971535
>>40971482
>Satan is still clearly not the same character as God and is very very clearly presented as the adversary.
Yeah, that's why the Bible says that both Satan and God incited David to take a census of Israel.

My advice is to stop posting now, you're in way over your head. Save yourself the embarrassment.
Anonymous No.40971535 >>40971541
>>40971508
Wow that's crazy dude. The Bible spent a good chunk of its text showcasing the corrupting effect the Satan character has on mankind, as well as his direct involvement in the major plotlines like The Fall and End Times.

But you know better. It was all for nothing! They're just the same character! Wow what a twist.
Anonymous No.40971541 >>40971545
>>40971535
>corrupting effect
Corrupting only from the perspective of people who worship the disgusting tyrant known as YHWH
Anonymous No.40971545
>>40971541
But I'm not Jewish nor a Christian nor an Abrahamist. I just have basic reading skills.

I'm so sorry for your low IQ. Life must be painful.
Anonymous No.40971546 >>40971556
>>40971507
>You DON'T need water or food.
Of course they'd feed and hydrate you. Who lets their farm animals die?? The groceries and kayfabe and are panem et circenses. Holy fuck, you really are a fucking piece of shit retard.
Anonymous No.40971547
I am your king...
Anonymous No.40971556 >>40971565
>>40971546
You are both mad and sad, look at that pitiful teenage-brain-equivalent rant. I can't even imagine how dogshit your pathetic life is lmfao.
Anonymous No.40971565 >>40971568
>>40971556
You interpret the bible the way they trained you to like the good little chicken that you are. Don't get mad at me for your idiocy and impotence.
Anonymous No.40971568 >>40971586 >>40971681
>>40971565
>You interpret the bible the way they trained you
I'm not the one that takes it seriously and literally LOL.
Can you pass the mirror test? Do you have any self awareness?
Anonymous No.40971575
I am your king...
Anonymous No.40971585 >>40973402
>>40971134 (OP)
>unironically gnosticism
>unironically taking religion as a fantasy game in space and not guidelines of behavior and self-betterment throughout metaphorical imagery and concepts to ponder on

This is why mortals worship each other. Many can't bear the weight of being the architects of Evil and our collective responsibility to help erase our invention.
Anonymous No.40971586 >>40971597
>>40971568
>ooh he switched up his typing pattern
Anonymous No.40971597 >>40971611
>>40971586
>more nonsense off topic rants
I seriously hope for your own sake that you're between 13-16. Anything outside of that age profile means that you failed in life.
Anonymous No.40971611 >>40971614
>>40971597
Anonymous No.40971614 >>40971659
>>40971611
The Bible is just a fantasy book to me.
You treat it like reality told from the perspective of the "evil" entity.
We are not the same. You are the shit on the street that the bottom of my shoe tries to avoid.
Anonymous No.40971619 >>40971623
Lmao now he's larping as a rationalist skeptic. A very obvious turnaround mid-thread. That is truly pathetic.
Anonymous No.40971623 >>40971632
>>40971619
>turnaround
Wow your reading comprehension is truly abysmal. Not only do you fail at reading the text from the book, you can't even properly parse simple posts.

Life is truly a struggle for you.
Anonymous No.40971632 >>40971640
>>40971623
Nice touch with different paragraphing styles. Really brings out the schizotroll flavor.
Anonymous No.40971640 >>40971642
>>40971632
Wow, slightly different formatting. What a solid and powerful point. I am defeated now certainly.

By the way, what does it feel like to always be wrong?
Anonymous No.40971642 >>40971651
>>40971640
I wouldn't know what it's like to be you, son.
Anonymous No.40971651 >>40971653
>>40971642
>no u
Alright, I'm done since you are clearly out of any actual debates or ideas. As a word of advice if you grow up and have actual skill life is pretty good and you don't need to whine about fantasy Biblical entities. Bye!
Anonymous No.40971653
>>40971651
Like I said. Chicken.
Anonymous No.40971659 >>40971668 >>40971681
>>40971614
These days I try to do my best to speak eloquently, but then I remember some of the things these Lovecraftian cult weirdo types have done to me and said about me, and yeah....

Well anyway, the stories preserved in their faith are intriguing, but there are much better and Truer versions of the same stories that are much older. To me anyway, perhaps their stories hold more truth than we realize, and they were simply following in the footsteps of Older Gods.
Anonymous No.40971668
>>40971659
Damn. I hope you recover from all that gay trauma.
Anonymous No.40971681 >>40971705
>>40971568
>Mirror test
Dunno if it is the same concept, but I remember doing this thing as a kid, in which I would stare at a mirror alone, and began asking myself a lot of questions, like "Why is this my face? Why is my face different in my mind? Who is even the one talking right now, if my mouth is shut?" and be able to do this for periods of up to an hour, I did that less and less as I grew up. Point being, I think many people have never done such an exercise because they were bombarded with television and entertainment since birth, I grew up in a semi-rural area where we had only two TVs in the house, and only one picked cable. Maybe the NPC syndrome is based on that, urbanized people growing up were never faced with existentialism, just worried about their next dopamine fix in the form of a paycheck or objects.

>>40971659
Bro, you're debating the kind of youngin that would unironically consider Satan the 'good guy' because he fucks with the wicked, thinking it a virtue of labor and not him just being an asshole that h8s humanity's free will, which Satan lacks (hence why the unrepentance and lack of self-awareness).

It's fundamentalism with a tweest.
Anonymous No.40971705 >>40971747
>>40971681
The OP is more retarded than that.
Lucifer is the 'good guy'..
And God/Satan is the 'bad guy'.
Anonymous No.40971723 >>40971747
>>40971134 (OP)
Your Promethean cuck kneels like a bitch before the demiurge Pajeet Brahma. This latter enslaves and creates conflict and suffering on a multiversal scale. There are no heroes here. You cuck.
Anonymous No.40971747 >>40971879 >>40973515
>>40971705
I think the appeal of those doctrines are the classical archetype of "The Left-handed Path" towards enlightenment, in which selfishness, recklessness, and all other sorts of socially-destructive behavior is rewarded. "Gorge yourself on everything and think not, enjoy the vessel and limited stay"

>>40971723
>When you don't realize YOU are the Brahma, and YOU are the Demiurge that wants out of doing this song and dance for another kalpa

wew lad
Anonymous No.40971827
>>40971134 (OP)
Both are villain you fucking retard the elite worship the black sun aka lucifer
Anonymous No.40971879
>>40971747
It's an odd subversion of a concept modern occultists in the west took from tantra.

Same difference to me. It's all just a fantasy.
Anonymous No.40972033
>>40971134 (OP)
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST, LUCIFER IS NOT A HERO, HE'S LITERALLY SATANAEL

IF YHWH IS THE DEMIURGE, IT STILL MEANS SATAN IS A BAD GUY, FOLLOWING THE LEFT PATH (CHAOS) IS NO BETTER THAN FOLLOWING THE RIGHT PATH (TYRANNY)

THE TRUE PATH IS THE MIDDLE PATH, MARKED BY THE GOLDEN RULE, THE WAY OF BUDDHA AND CHRIST AND ABRAXAS
Anonymous No.40972038
Wooh, boy... schizo battle royale out here.
Anonymous No.40972118
>>40971134 (OP)
>Lucifer
>Use part of the retard religion to denounce the retard religion
Glad I wasn't raised xtian, it's like you can't escape it.
Anonymous No.40972129
>>40971134 (OP)
Lucifer and YHWH are two sides of the one coin >>40972083
Anonymous No.40972280 >>40972381
>>40971134 (OP)
Read Job.
Anonymous No.40972381
>>40972280
Job makes God look like an evil scumbag more than any other book in the Bible
Anonymous No.40972398
>>40971359
Isnt this like Isis taking Ra's name (and source of power) through underhanded methods?
Or like Aten trying to undermine Amon-Ra?
https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27457.0
Anonymous No.40972407 >>40972482 >>40972814
>>40971134 (OP)
Non-dualism is the way. This "good vs evil β€” no, it's actually evil vs good!" shit gets you nowhere.
Anonymous No.40972457 >>40973402
>>40971134 (OP)

Lucifer = Promethus
God = Greek gods
The word "Satan" originaly meant adversary. Prometheus was an adversary to greek Gods so Lucifer is an enemy of God.

Prometheus gifted humanity fire that he stole from the gods this is "Techne" the skill of arts and crafts or just practical application of knowledge. In the bible the serpet tells us the fruit of knowledge which was forbidden by God. Christian God and Greek gods wanted to keep us in the "Matrix" and to keep us weak and dependant on the Gods. But Prometheus the trickster that he is gave us the power to think (Evolution?) and that some day we will rival the Gods in terms of power.

Humanity was stopped from evolving even further and eating the fruit of tree of life which would allow us to (probably?) gain similar powers to Gods or demi-gods.
Technological Singularity is the Tree of life and we need to eat its fruits.
Anonymous No.40972482 >>40972486
>>40972407

Dualism was created by higher powers (gods?) to keep you enslaved in your delusions.
Worhl No.40972486
>>40972482
God is stupid. Go duh. Go far duh guh oh duh
Anonymous No.40972554
>>40971361
>Satan, by definition of what he is, is the enemy/adversary/opponent of the Biblical God.
Are you retarded? He isn't at all
Nowhere in the bible does God have any rival, adversary, or "enemy" in the sense we think of
Anonymous No.40972568
I'll respond anyway
Anonymous No.40972814 >>40973598
>>40972407
Dualism and non-dualism are a misundestood concept. If God is the Father and Holy Spirit (thats a duality but not the black and white duality people push), and Satan is a third entity.
This is so basic that I have no idea why people reduced the thing to God vs Satan, and that God created Satan or is some sort of mindfuckery rather than a legit parasite on this world that has interfered in the connection between Father and Holy Spirit (both males btw).
Anonymous No.40972819 >>40972825 >>40973500
>hero
>villain
Spirituality in spandex
Anonymous No.40972825 >>40973500
>>40972819
Spiritual children that have misled themselves with performative stuff that goes nowhere
Anonymous No.40973402 >>40973591
>>40972457
>Evolution
Neo Darwinistic macro evolution doesn't exist. That is, beings do not become progressively more complex over time due to random chance (entropy). In fact the opposite occurs. Only de-evolution can occur in the material world, as everything tends toward entropy and death. This should be obvious when viewing something like the dinosaurs compared to modern reptiles. Humans are the exception, not the rule. And even then it was only due to the fall of deities (Primordial Aryans) into material bodies via sexual alchemy that contributed to our ability to directly experience gnosis.
>technology good
Oh hell no. Technology is pushing our species off a fucking cliff. Why would merging with something artificial do anything other than further our fall? Why should we rely on intelligence outside of ourselves? It's just another extension of the external savior complex, now with AI instead of some "son of God". If anything We need to go BACKWARDS, spiraling into the Origin. That's the real meaning of the black sun, swastika, and Lucifer: A reversal, a return to the Origin beyond the demented world of material forms. Everything you need is within.

>>40971585
>t. Material who has never experienced other realms of existence.
Have you ever thought about why human beings have moral or philosophical systems? Where it came from? If it came from the material world, there would be no morality or better living because material is evil and causes suffering simply by existing. Therefore morals and ideals have to come from a subtler mental realm, and beyond that from the Uncreated.
Grooty No.40973482 >>40973527
Man you dumbfucks all made my night nearly ascended just by sheer laughing alone
Anonymous No.40973500
>>40972819
>>40972825
Perceptions of heroism is inherent to the human condition dipshits. Even the Bible has heroes (Abraham, Moses, Jesus ofc, Samson, etc, I could fill this entire post with heroes from the Bible)
Anonymous No.40973515
>>40971747
There's a difference between modern left hand path and ancient Luciferianism. Modern LHP is just demon worship and hedonism/egoism. It's ironic that the arrogant, sadistic biblical YHWH is a better example of the archetypal Satan than anything else. Ancient Luciferianism is a loose thread of Truth that follows the oldest knowledge and the highest wisdom reached by direct experience of the Absolute. It knows no dogma nor has it a fixed temporal abode as do other religions. It has no need for these things because the Truth needs no crutch to lean on. It's simple the only perennial philosophy, call it what you will.

>You are the demiurge
Maybe if you're considering yourself from outside the matrix and part of the Absolute, which all things are a part of. But the divine spark (spirit caged in matter) sure as fuck is not part of yaldabaoth. At best it's the evil aspect of us that needs to die before we can experience the final realization
Anonymous No.40973527
>>40973482
Good post. Thanks for your contribution
Anonymous No.40973591
>>40973402

>Evolution
you are a coward. Technology like Bio-technology or Psychotronics will be used to force evolution. Nature and it's laws is a construct. Human beings will be able to evolove into something beyond human - the Ubermensch. Most "people" are NPC's and giving them the power of Singularity level technologies would be a mistake. Evolution is the only option.


>technology good
No, technology is neither good or bad, this is a retarded dualistic worldview that was put upon us by the elites either conservative retards that want total reduction of technology back to Bronze age (preferably) this will allow Jewish elites to become the new gods and controll the little "humans". The leftist faggots are no better, the conservatives at the very least want to be human but the leftist trannies just reduce themselves to subhuman trash.

>black sun, swastika
Return to roots is the worst that we can do. Humans have psychic abilities and the elites want to keep it hidden. In fact the (mostly jewish) elites play on all sides. The deepstate just wants full control.
Anonymous No.40973598
>>40972814
>God is the Father and Holy Spirit
This is not what these concepts mean. This is extreme religious autism.