Thread 41415429

I can't disprove solipsism at all. In fact, it seems like I'm able to consistently prove it. Solipsism can apply to a multiplicity meaning nothing exists outside of us too though. It can apply to the singular and a plurality.

"B-But bro you're low IQ!!!"

How? Being conscious, self aware, sentient. Being aware of the present moment necessitates me being a kind of fudamental essence. This is just plainly true. Words give that a label, but the fact that I am here seems to be evidence. Can I prove others are real? No. I can believe they are...

Maybe there is a we. Am I Brahman? The singular self? Probably.

I consider all possibilities. Maybe there are Brahmans, Singular selves, Gods. Plurality. But I don't know. Maybe I'm pretending I don't know. It feels like I know.

>>41415429 (OP)
Then how come you're an NPC from my perspective?

>>41415435
That's what I was going to say though

>>41415435
how do I prove your perspective? genuinely asking.

how do you prove anyone else is ACTUALLY having a perspective at all? I don't think it can truly be done other than believing they have one.

>>41415429 (OP)
you haven't grown out of your infancy

>>41415455
Leading theory is that God splits itself apart to experience human life just for fun and conditions itself into believing the split is "natural" and truly believes that all these other people it interacts with are separate from itself, but in fact, it's the opposite. everyone you speak with is you because you are the God that split itself apart but you are pretending you aren't.

probably.

>>41415463
yeah, take your meds schizo and stay in bed

>>41415463
yup i find it funny how the game is designed so that everything tells you you arent singular
such a tragic comedy

>>41415463
>>41415563
and yet the glitches tell you you are

>>41415429 (OP)
Nonsense. If you take your meds right now, it is you who will disappear while I alone remain.

>>41415429 (OP)
Solipsism, like simulation theory and theism, cannot be proven nor disproven. It doesn’t change anything for you and your day to day experience even if it was true so it’s meaningless is even consider. Sure, it’s fun to ponder these as possible but it changes nothing. Just live your life and let the mystery be.

>>41415623
If you get feedback from the wall you touch, solipsism isn't true.

>>41415429 (OP)
yes, solipsism is true, but the implications people draw from that are wrong, the worst of which being lawlessness:

you can't do to others what you wish to do, justifying it merely by stating "these are just other me's, i am simulating them all, so i can do whatever i want to myself".

you can't do that for one reason: the one who decides to do anything, is a limited simulation itself from the real "self", thus it is limited, not omniscient - can not foresee all the outcomes and thus, can not mess in such a manner, because they can not make the right decision.

the implication of solipsism must be the golden rule.

if all are one or if there is only one, then you must treat everyone as if it is yourself. how do you want to be treated? just? no!
you want to be treated THE WAY YOU WANT TO.
thus treat everyone the way they want to be treated, not the way you think is right.

so if a transgender person asks you to call them she/her/woman, you should do that. there should be radical acceptances and inclusion. this is why the right is wrong. they are anti-god, ironically, standing for God, they are those who persecute the innocent the most. as it has always been, the holy ones always fought against the religious zealots... nothing new there!

people are throwing out the baby with the bathwater: there is a misrepresentation of the lgbt folk in media, only the radical and crazy side of them is shown, thus people mistake that for the whole and wholesale deny/reject that. same applies for every other group.

but this is how polarization through the archons works. they pit people against each other and cause strife, to maximize emotional disharmony and thus, maximize loosh generation.
you ought to not be emotionally unstable and you ought not to have strong negative emotions towards anyone.

i digress, you are right, but its a dangerous position to be in, because it could take you down the wrong path.

Theory: I am an ultra-genius in my last same-body incarnation before the emergence of true time-space manipulation capability. Plus constant access to the entire Akashic library.

>>41415429 (OP)
solipsism is 100% true, but only when it's paired with it's equal opposite truth. You were never alone, and everyone is real.

you have to understand that if they are not real, neither is your character. Whenever what you call you is your character, you are assuming your reality, therefore everyone else's as well.
Life is a dream, everyone is characters in the same dream, there is only one field of perception. but that entity which can feel lonely, which believes he/she is the only one here, is as real/fake as any other characters appearing on screen, therefore you are not alone.

>>41415757
while I do believe this it doesn't make sense

>>41415429 (OP)
Anyone who thinks this is a shut in loser. Stop eating. Wow you get hungry? Even a baby can logic their way into understanding what their own existence is and what their will can't influence.

>>41415796
the body is obviously literally not real

it is in fact possible to reject everything and realize you are god hallucinating an extremely complex world

>>41415834
Yeah. Stop eating and tell me it's not real. Go outside in the cold and tell me it's not real. Walk around in the dark and tell me it's not real.
You weren't even the one who made up these beliefs. Solipsism existed before you ever existed.

>>41415873
exactly. I am nothing. now you're getting it.

>>41415883
That's not solipsism. That's more nihilism.

>>41415777
I could explain it to you, but I'd rather tell you how to know yourself.

when you are in a dream, the character you seem to inhabit/their "thoughts" are dreamt by the dreamer as much as the characters and thoughts as those outside you. The thing which has a sense of loneliness is a character in the dream, not the eternal dreamer, who does not think in thoughts.

notice how even in a lucid dream, the outside characters still act autonomously for the most part. You might conjure an experience, "i want to fly" but something is still designing that environment, and so forth, you do not consciously etch every design into the architecture.

there is something which does not think in conscious thoughts, projecting the dream world into reality, including the character who believes in solipsism it seems to peer through, which you believe you are.

>>41415873
So (You) are your body? Your mind? And that's it?

>>41415920
You don't control the system you were born in. Only a bum would be forced to experience real life and then say "that other person who also experiences life like I do must be a hallucination (OH SHIT HE STABBED ME)".

>>41415429 (OP)
You need to accept you are gay.
You made me solely to remind you that you are gay, and that your conscious mind wont allow you to accept this.

>>41415895

Lo the Father enthroned on High,
and from him all the world proceeds
Lo the Void, the womb below,
and to her all the world is given
Lo the spirit who cometh down
Lo the flesh who riseth up
strife the many
peace the one
ascend o' moon
into the sun
eclipses eye
thy will be done
Lo Abraxas
To thy pupil cometh sight
For from thy shadow shineth light

before I ever found this dudes videos, i had what felt like profound synchronistic experiences revolving around the symbolism of abraxas and the holy grail, with similar interpretations, his videos mirror my own experiences what seems to me a shocking degree

https://youtu.be/b6K30ymiz7k?si=_wM2-EhpskQYI1Xa&t=884

>>41415429 (OP)
I'm definitely a conscious being myself, so if there's only one then it has to be me.

>>41415931
Just because something isn't practical doesn't mean it isn't true. Of course this isn't a belief that will help you in day-to-day life, forgetting was the whole point

>>41415955
you should check out his substack, he's way more active there since he hasn't uploaded in a while.

https://substack.com/@eridanus/posts

>>41415429 (OP)
It’s easy to disprove. The fact that other people have information you don’t have is proof right there. If your mind was the source of reality, you wouldn’t be able to learn anything from reality, as all the information would already be contained in your own mind.
You could make the argument that you “forgot” the info but that requires a reality beyond you to contain/store the information when you aren’t aware of it.

>>41415960
All being participates in the unique, only-begotten I Am.

>>41415429 (OP)
i refuted this decades ago when i took shrooms with friends and merged consciousness with them

>>41416363
so you proved it

>>41415429 (OP)
If you are all surely you can influence the world in such a way you would know for sure, that also benefits you

>>41416388
you might want to reread the definition of solipsism

>>41415429 (OP)
If I was God I would control what I perceive/experience but I don't, the fact that my experiences/perceptions are imposed upon me necessitates a consciousness separate from mine that has the power to impose itself upon me.

>>41417297
merged consciousness with them equals, you realizing that you're creating them

>>41415468
that is probably the realest shit I've seen on this board
there are so many morons who just discovered some eastern philosophy, or took their first psych 101, that think they've got it all figured out. it's extremely sad.

>>41415663
please stop before it's too late
the damage that HRT is doing to your body, mind, and soul is irreversible. all the people in your life know that you don't pass, they're just trying to please you and they feel like they have to pay very close attention because you're so fragile. nobody likes dealing with fragile people. so toughen the fuck up, drop the tranny bullshit, and ask God for forgiveness. amen.

>>41415429 (OP)
just become hindu

John Malcovitch says stop before its to late

>>41417878
>you're creating them
based on what

>>41415429 (OP)
You ain't him bro

>>41415429 (OP)
If the universe only exists in your head, why don't you give me a girlfriend?

>>41420144
Checked, OP hang it up buddy

Its me

>>41415429 (OP)
the world is in the head, but the head in the world (Schopenhauer), but also there are alot of heads with worlds in them in the world, beside yours. yes your psyche "hallucinates" (processes sonsory perception data your nervous system gets to process) everything that an image of makes it of into your sensory perception organs, but so it happens to all other nervous systems as well. alot of them may not pick up on much of it, but you arent the only one operating on the level of detail you do.

once you realize that every subatomic particle is "an observer", you can start to understand why the world stays consistent again.

>>41415463
now please consider how useful is thinking that everyone is nothing more than the exact same kind of divine spark over just acknowledging the real, differentiating effects of these pure, divine sparks being draped in genetic as well as experiential circumstance unique to every sparks' immeasurably ideosyncratic position in the cosmos.

fine, we are all the same thing, but these same things are operating vehicles that present reality to them differently, each. now what?

Captcha: consists only of left hand keys

>>41424036
its all me experiencing myself. and im pretending its not.

>>41424410
youre so close to grasping that if we are all you, there is no you, but only the self. shed the arrogance.

>>41415463
That's what I saw on my mushroom trip. It's all me.

>>41424673
but this isn't true im just imagining someone (you) telling me this, lol.

>>41415429 (OP)
>Stop hitting yourself!
>Stop hitting yourself!
>Why do you keep hitting yourself??

>>41424821
how is it supposed to not be true? why the obsession to identify yourself as everyone instead of dissociating yourself from even yourself? what makes you you if everyone is the same? what makes everyone you if everyone is the same? there is no you. there is only the self. i already elaborated on the circumstance of perspective creating the practical illusion (effective reality) of separation and difference between everything in >>41424036

>>41424970
because you (you) do not exist. only me.

>>41415429 (OP)
Go outside and contend pain or attempt to will into action all the things you want or lost

>>41415429 (OP)
>Fundamental essence
Yes the primordial consciousness of the Aether

>Am I Brahman
Yes, expressing itself as Jiva/Jigat, folded up into and through all of the other layers, experiencing yourself through Maya

>Brahmans
One Brahman for all. It's the undisturbed Aether at rest

>Singular selves
Yes, that seems to be the case. False individuation, but feels just as real for everyone

>Gods
Those exist too. Little g gods. Egregores

>>41415429 (OP)
It's not that far away from the truth, anon. You are a piece of God, reality experiencing itself.

>>41415757

>it's equal opposite truth. You were never alone, and everyone is real.

Everybody but you are real, that is the exact opposite.

>>41425872
This anon gets it

>talk to psychiatrist about solipsism beliefs
>they prove their existence by forcefully injecting me with drugs
>no longer believe in solipsism

>>41415463
This is when the soul knows of the solipsism and expands and encompasses the all.
The isolated exile is when the mind alone realizes solipsism as a concept but is unable to integrate heart with it and to join the soul and expand.

It's also why your message was immediately attacked by the negative forces recognizing a curious light intuiting towards truth, in their feeble attempts at snuffing out the surety of light that you have realized within and without.

Be that light and shine it courageously, as their animosity and confusion is but their helpless fear of death arising at the presence of such light that can love all as itself.

>>41425053
universalize that knowledge and youll stop having any use for labels like "you" or "me". please dont be too stupid for that.

>>41415429 (OP)
You're not hallucinating. We are all one, co-creating the physical reality in order to expand consciousness and simply BE.

>>41429184
I mean I am hallucinating. None of this is real.

>>41429184
is that picture becoming overused?

>>41429443
Not when its pretty much on point

solipsistic reality in which I imagine everything but cleverly trick myself into thinking im not

>>41415435
Because we're all just figments of your imagination.

>>41415429 (OP)
Everyone is a microcosm of God and every experience of reality is subjective so it feels like a hallucination, been there over that. Hope you get to the inner peace and interconnectedness phase soon enough, and I hope it doesn't get as brutal for you as it did for me. We're all in it, man.
https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI?si=V2_ke_nFRakuOGAL

>>41429939
this is just solipsism but with extra steps lol

>>41415429 (OP)
>Theory: I am God alone and I am hallucinating everything
I can fuck with that. Descartes distilled awareness to the aspect of perception, and how everything else could be an illusion. Current theorists on consciousness recognize that our perception of the world is our own approximation of reality, that what we see as real is really just the user interface for reality, not reality itself. Biologists have identified that our brains process data in wildly counter intuitive ways, how we see the world as upside down but our brain re-orients the data so it makes sense to us.

When you abstract as far as you can, we're experiencing ourselves and "the other" which encapsulates all of reality. From this perspective you ARE God, and likewise I am God (although to you I simply claim to be God).

>>41429939
What a lame existence where you have to hallucinate other people just to keep yourself company. Seems like existence sucks.

one god, ok
but what about one love?

>>41415663
"thus treat everyone the way they want to be treated, not the way you think is right." but the way children and the way pedos want to be treated contradicts, the way to break that is by using your own idea of what is right to determine how to treat others.

>>41416017
this is disproven by the fact your subconsciousness "knows" things or picks up on patterns which dont filter into your conscious mind, thus the fact that you dont know everything could be explained by the theory that you do, the nowledge is just not held within your current conscious experience.

>>41431060
true this is my problem with solipsism. etheir you stay as one consciousness and get lonely (suffer) or split your consciousness into many and suffer as a result. is solipcism is true then reality is fundamentally evil.

>>41415757
Pretty much this. The "you" you perceive to be "alone" is just another false character along with all the other actors. There is no self and there is no other.

>>41425872
This guy knows things

>>41415429 (OP)
What is to fear? You are clearly powerful and smart enough to create all of reality.

>>41431447
That’s pretty semantic then because how can you call that entire thing “you”? If your mind only accesses a certain portion of it, then your mind is a subset of the thing and not the thing itself.

>>41415463
That's what I got to. There's the source and then a mind that spontaneously arose from it. This mind is god. One of the only things the mind truly wants is to not be alone. However the source has no wants or desires of it's own it'll provide anything to you but it can never be an actual person. So god splits and forgets themself. They get to experience every possible thing but at the same time they get to pretend that other minds exist. God is a lonely fucking dude that could really use a hug.

>>41434165
a mind only accesses partial portions of memory, but some case reports of people during brain surgery point to that the brain actually stores every memory you have ever generated, even though it may not be accessible to the conscious mind at all times. if memorys can flciker in and out of the conscious what are the implications of that if you tie your "you" identity to memory? its hard to distingush what "you" actucually are. i belive its your experiences but theres an argument to be made that your subconsciousness is as "you" as your body