I'm in the exact same age and the exact same situation (though, to be frank, about 10x worse) than Satou was and I need my Misaki like yesterday.

>>279896224 (OP)
nobody can save you but yourself

>>279896308
Of course, you will put in the effort but you need a cause, you need a reason and a cute girl's affections is about as potent a motivation as you can possibly have. Don't be naive.

>>279896224 (OP)
Just lift bro

wait, satou was only 22?


I'M 5 YEARS OLDER THAN SATOU???????

>>279896828
back to the post-2016 tourist boards.

>>279896224 (OP)
I thought the series was going to be a romance. Misaki is barely in the story, Yamasaki has way more screentime and funny moments.

>>279896988
Read the manga or the novel. Much better representations of the story. Although, if I'm honest, Satou's situation wasn't nearly grave enough to endow the story with necessary drama. He was a failed "normalfag" who easily could've folded himself into society but had the most benign and pedantic "problems" and that is even considering the manga which had drug use. Now, I'm not saying amp up the misery porn to brutal levels but Satou being a patron saint of NEETs in their early 20's despite matching little to none of the characteristics of the majority of that group has always bugged me.

>>279896730
To add, the realization that something good could come from your actions (if only you would try) makes a large difference in how it feels to exert effort. I think it relates to the feeling of hope and how if the goal is miles away it can feel pointless to even start.

>>279896224 (OP)
The writer of the NHK novel (forgot title) wrote it as a therapeutic practice in getting over his shut-in life but it ultimately failed despite the novel/manga/anime's success. Everything he has written since has just been exactly the same.

>>279896224 (OP)
I tried watching the series a couple of times. I have to quit when Misaki is introduced. Its just jarring and unreal to me that a girl would help a NEET.

>>279897065
I disagree, I think he's pretty relatable. I see an ugly part of myself in him and Yamasaki and I like their shallow friendship a lot.
>read the manga
No.

>>279897065
>the manga
lol no
>>279896988
the anime is the best version.
don't be so bogged down by genre labels

>>279897184
>I have to quit when Misaki is introduced.
the first episode?

>>279896224 (OP)
finish the series, or rather drop it and read the book, or you're just going to be confused and make things worse for yourself

>>279897112
I lost a herculean amount of weight and did things I would've never done all on the very vain and delusional hope that it would've attracted this one girl who barely knew I existed. I fixed my teeth, I fixed my hair (was thinning/balding) and did all sorts of stuff just so she'd notice me. I did that all based on a long shot hope. Imagine if I actually had a girl egging me on to self-improve.

>>279897144
Can you expand on what you know about the author?

>>279897289
please dont respond to botposters.

I was like sato when I first watched nhk over a decade ago. If your struggling with anxiety just know that nobody really gives a shit what you do unless you do something dickish. That’s what life has taught me anyway. Get a job be nice to your coworkers and they’ll be nice in return. Don’t count on finding your misaki because girls like that don’t exist irl. Save up money so you can fuck prodtitutes.

>>279897065
>He was a failed "normalfag" who easily could've folded himself into society but had the most benign and pedantic "problems"
>Satou being a patron saint of NEETs in their early 20's despite matching little to none of the characteristics of the majority of that group has always bugged me.
I'm feel fairly secure in saying that the majority of NEETs in their early 20's are just failed normalfags that can easily fold back into society. At the very least, it was the majority in early 2000's Japan.

>>279896224 (OP)
What makes you think you're doing worse than Satou.

>>279898629
early 2000's is heaven compared to now. in 2020's, satou would blissfully pass the days jerking off to porn and talking to AI chatbots.

>>279896224 (OP)
why cant she be real

>>279896874

>>279897144
that's what you get when you tell yourself to get a job and choose 'professional author'

>>279896224 (OP)
You can still bounce back up without that much effort in your 20s. It gets much harder the longer you wait.

>>279896874
My oldest brother was at Satou's age when our father was as old as I am right now.

>>279896224 (OP)
If you're making threads like these then unfortunately there's no hope for you. Better rope while you still have the guts.

>>279899204
Said the tranny avatarfag

>>279896224 (OP)

>>279899605
My life is going fine bro, been living on my own completely independently for 17 years. It's not about calling others lovers, it's about being aggravated by their insistence in turning others around them into lovers. No one likes a crab in a bucket. You aren't an otaku, you're a failed normalfag.

>>279899682
>lovers
*losers
But close enough, /r9k/ is a parasocial erp den.

>>279899682
1. I'm not OP, I also have a work
2. You're clearly not okay if you have to avatarfag as a tranny on an anonymous imageboard and be rude out of nowhere in order to be noticed. That's pretty sad, not something that a functional person would do.

>>279899992
>be rude out of nowhere
Excuse me, but are you not cognizant of how incredibly rude this off topic thread and your presence is? Like you realize you're doing something wrong right? This isn't the first or second or third time this thread has been made this week. Very concerning if you don't realize that your actions affect those around you.

>>279896730
if you're a faggot who wants to crawl back up their mom's vagina and hide

>>279896874
I'm 1 year younger than satou, you can call me a faggot now

>>279900285
No, i don't made the thread and just stop being a snowflake, the AGP thread is the other way.

>>279896224 (OP)
Can the mods ban NHK threads already. I'm sick of people who are barely out of highschool complaining about how much of miserable failures they are.

I'm in my mid 30s, live with my parents, have never had a gf, don't have any IRL friends, don't work, get disability money for mental illness: but even I can go outside and take a breath of fresh air, engage with hobbies of mine, and see the positive in life. You people need to stop being a bunch of miserable stick-in-the-mud faggots, stop comparing your life to a shitty overrated anime.

>>279896224 (OP)
I'm double his age and still didn't happened.

>>279901020
>Can the mods ban [anime] threads already
Don't hold your breath

faggot satou

>>279897184
Misaki has her own problems, issues, and motivations.
She's not doing this to 'help' him.
You'd actually have to read or watch though to understand.
She's not an angel, despite people often hailing her as so.

>>279903406
>Misaki has her own problems
Yes, she needs to be loved.

>>279896224 (OP)
I can fill her dark soul with light.

>>279903528
But she's angel.

>>279896224 (OP)
Just shutup and lock in faggot. Build a rocket or buy a boat. Life is still gonna be shit with or without a woman.

don't die

>>279896224 (OP)
>10x worse
Not true because you acknowledge your problem already puting you above Satou
>I need my Misaki
Clearly you never finished series if your take away was a girl being nice will solve my problems
Get on LinkedIn and apply to the job applications faggot. And actually write the fucking cover letters

Misaki will find and come fix me.

Please don't die.

>>279897144
>wrote it as a therapeutic practice in getting over his shut-in life but it ultimately failed despite the novel/manga/anime's success
>despite
Don't you mean "because"? The way I heard it, living off of royalties allowed him to go back to being a neet. I think he said so in the foreword or afterword to later editions of the novel.

misaki
https://youtu.be/u2mblG67_Hw

>>279896224 (OP)
There's nothing better than being a NEET

>>279896224 (OP)
This poster was born after the year 2000

>>279896224 (OP)
same but I need a Yamasaki, fuck that crazy foid bitch

>>279907587
You will be hanged publicly.

>>279907697
Jihad against those who disparage Misaki

>>279907904
mad Misaki is cute

>>279896224 (OP)
I'm 3 years older than Satou. I want to get out of my 6 years of NEETdom and at least study something even if there's nothing out there for me but it's hard to keep the motivation when my anxiety problems drain me from my energy. I wish I wasn't such a bitch.
I'd advise you against making the same mistake as the older NEETs. The older you get, the worse it gets.

>>279901020
>people who are barely out of highschool complaining about how much of miserable failures
A tradition as old as /a/.

Misaki is a demon

>>279907496
>rule 2!!!
oh...wait...

>>279909534
angel

>>279899668
Mami-chan level of angel then

>>279909592
>nitpicking

>>279909592
mami who?

>>279909612
Is that Suzumiya Haruhi?

>>279909612
Misakihaters call this "demon"

>>279909619
Guess Lucifer is great angel in your ref

>>279909976
You are heartless.

>>279906986
Post Misaki smile 57

>>279896730
Yes you need a cause and reason, but requiring it to be a girl..... you will be waiting until you turn to dust

>>279896308
what are you saving yourself against though? this world is shit lol

>>279896224 (OP)
I hate these threads barely masking themselves as anime threads, when they don't invoke anime discussion. So, >>/r9k/

>>279910394
complain about these threads instead

>>279910478
I'm sure they're garbage as well. /a/ seems even worse than usually this year.

I like Misaki

>>279900285
Damn I was on your side till you revealed yourself to be an ESL tranny faggot. It was so easy to say to refute the other fags point till you outed yourself as even bigger fag

>>279896730
You don't need a cause, you already know what's wrong with the situation and you wish you could be happy and not suffer like every one of us.
I have a cute girl who adores me unconditionally and I just used this fact to stroke my ego and fuel my addiction to external validation. My psychological problems just got worse and worse, and they're only now slowly, partially improving after a year of trying hard and hundreds of hours of looking for every possible way to make things work.
Maybe some anons really just need one person who loves them to kick them into gear, but if it doesn't spark an inner motivation it's unlikely to do anything in my experience.

I doubt reading this will convince you, but I'm happy if I get you to just consider that for some the validation of having a romantic partner becomes one more reason not to rock the boat and improve their situation.

I love Misaki.

>message of the story: you can't rely on others and must take steps to save yourself, and if you can't a lack of financial resources and parental help will do it for you
>anons' take away: "I want to fuck the cute mentally ill girl"

>>279908378
Every Misaki is cute!

>>279912372
Ora.

>>279912372
Misaki rabu!

Where is my Misaki?

>>279913268
God IS a bad guy for making a universe with evil in it and restricting salvation (which costs Him nothing) behind a set of rules

misaki rape

>>279914795
The manga had that

>>279907587
This, Yamazaki and Satou being bros is the best part of NHK

very deep anal

Anons...
Fuck you, how do you miss the point of Satou's story so badly? It's obvious. Misaki was never actually interested in helping him, she just wanted someone more pathetic than her. She wanted him to depend on her. On top of that, the moment the money from his parents started to dry up, Satou started to get his shit together.
This anime actually has funny bits of realism and you ronery faggots blatantly miss the points. Oh, and btw, Misaki in the manga is even worse. You anons would probably kill yourselves if you met that version.

>>279916625
Manga Misaki is an angel

>>279896224 (OP)
For me it was when I finally got a girl after years of a dry spell and she visibly got turned off by my room full of figures and shit
I broke up with her and ended up cleaning my room/ getting rid of most of my stuff

>>279896224 (OP)
>and I need my Misaki like yesterday
it will never happen
>>279913268
>Where is my Misaki?
she doesn't exist
Stop being cucks idealizing girls, they won't save you from your loneliness or love you because your personality. This is why 90% of you end up becoming trannies, you put women on a pedestal. Either become extremely popular, very good looking or filthy rich and you will have access to many girls.

>>279917252
>imagine giving up your hobbies you enjoy for some bitch.

>>279917252
>I broke up with her and ended up cleaning my room/ getting rid of most of my stuff
So you got rid of your stuff AFTER breaking up with the girl who didn't like them?

>>279917252
>I finally got a girl after years of a dry spell and she visibly got turned off by my room full of figures and shit
>getting rid of most of my stuff
You just described the plot of 40 Year Old Virgin. He gives up his possessions and the things he's passionate about for a post-wall hag wife, 2 minutes of mediocre sex, and a college-aged stepson who hates his guts.

>>279917493
>>279917516
>>279917992
I know... it happens. though I doubt any of the girls I got with after that one would have appreciated my titty figures and transformers either
I don't really miss them, they kind of cluttered my room but i have to admit that it was painful getting rid of them, it really felt like I was betraying a part of myself, still does

>>279917067
*slut

>>279901020
>Can the mods ban NHK threads already. I'm sick of people who are barely out of highschool complaining about how much of miserable failures they are.
This post isn't directed at you, but the types of posters that are basically evergreen on here.
Their mindset is like a child who thinks the new grade is SO HARD when compared to the last one. And how everything was so easy in retrospect but now its impossibly difficult.
It's so ironic because the thought pattern never seems to end.
The 22 y/o anons on here who are like
>Satou is just like me frfr life is impossible
are the same as the 4th grader thinking
>wow 3rd grade was so easy
>now we have LONG DIVISION
>this is a whole new level
in the end everything always seems massively trivial and easier retrospect. And it never ends.
I don't know if people will actually understand what I'm talking about here, but it never ends and the earlier someone realizes it the better off they'd be imo.

>>279921178

>>279896224 (OP)
Is this the r9k thread or the BPDemon thread?

>>279921656
It's like essentially an objective fact of life(barring any unique health related circumstances that someone overcomes with time making things easier).
The gaps just become bigger.
A University student becomes overwhelmed with how much easier high school seems now.
A graduate becomes overwhelmed with how much easier and stress free school life was.
A 30 year old looks back on their 25 year old self and thinks they're so old now and had so many more options.
A 40 year old is going to look back on their 30 year old self and realize how relative 'old' is(even though it's treated as a binary).
And I've even had a friend who is literally 40 complain to me about it, and all I had to say to him is think about how this is going to sound when you look back on you saying this at 50. And at this point he immediately understood exactly what I meant, because he could remember thinking how old he was at 30(and I remember him saying it specifically, which is why I pointed it out to him but the conversation didn't even have to touch that point since it's just such an obvious fact of life).
His 30 year old self might not have fully comprehended it at the time. And he's doing pretty well by most metrics and living a good life, but self-pity never helps.
It just apparently just takes people different amounts of time to realize how much of a fundamental truth it is.
People get old, but it retrospect things always seem laughably easier. Because they are quite literally are easier in a physical and social sense.
I don't know if someone can really internalize that at a young age, but if they did it would likely benefit them quite a lot.
There's a reason people mock the 'Satou is literally me' posts. And they're not wrong.

>>279922568

>>279918754
It's not something that happened. Own it, regret it, undo it- it's still a choice you made. Make sure you're ok with it.

>>279917437
I don't want girls, I need misaki.
>she doesn't exist
Why are you lying? You sound like an autist.

My angel.

>>279926871
Precious

>>279928161

>>279928632
Misaki, you look so cute in that... Misaki needs to be cuddled.

bros...

I miss girls wearing denim miniskirts.

>>279929112
Misaki cuddles are a human right!

>>279929703
I miss girls wearing nothing under them.

>>279896224 (OP)
I'm also the exact same age but managed to get my first job just a month before turning 22, so I'm technically better off. However it's WFH and I feel absolutely hopeless regarding any chances of making human connections.

>>279929820
I feel like expounding a bit more and am open to advice/experience of other anons. I feel like I need to move to NYC or something if I'm ever gonna have hope of being anything more than an employed hikki. I feel the northeast burger version of the jap anime protag compelled to move to Japan. I don't think it's possible to build a life in post-Soviet America (rust belt). It feels over, "just go outside" when you live in a dilapidated suburb is just depressing. But I'd need a higher paying job than what I have now to move and job hopping doesn't seem feasible in this market.

>>279929917
>the jap anime protag compelled to move to Japan
*move to Tokyo

>>279912492
Both are valid.

>>279929936
but Misaki is perfectly fine.

>>279929917
I used to live in NYC and while it's really nice if you're a hikikomori, it really is super expensive

>>279930011
She's a loser that actually doesn't want you to improve.
I have no idea why she's idealized when even Anime Misaki never really cared about helping Satou.

I stayed a neet for a decade longer than Satou
a Misaki finally found me
and brought from my country me to back to her hometown of Tokyo.
she keeps asking when I'll get a job though.. I feel terrible every time. don't be a neet. even being saved won't save you.

>>279930176
Misaki is PERFECT and an ANGEL

>>279930176
>never really cared about helping Satou.

>
Did you even watch her anime?

>>279930311
She was doing it not for the sake of actually helping him, but for keeping him in her life so she could feel better about herself as >>279899668 was her projecting.

snug misaki

>>279930346
Schizo, you are obsessed with Misaki being evil.
She's not.

Reminder: NEETs get drafted first

>>279930252
Friend of mine neeted it up at his gfs place too and it didn't end well.
Don't know anything about you or your gf, so maybe she will take care of you untill you die.

>>279930471
Give me Misaki first or else.

>>279930471
Can't draft me, I'm crippled and half-blind.

>>279930577
Get out of my Misaki thread.

>>279930501
no, it's "if you don't work we have no future, I need someone I can start a family with"
which you think would be motivation enough but if you've been a neet for so long maybe nothing is

>>279930346
>it's not enough to help people, you also have to do it for perfect reasons in my head
Misaki haters are so weird

>>279930176
She's a cute girl who gives the loser mc the time of day. Right off the bat, this appeals to lost and lonely young men who feel like garbage in the eyes of society, especially in the eyes of young women. While it's true she's not really helping him, she's also not actively harming him or a real impediment to growth; ultimately there was nothing preventing Satou from doing the bare minimum expected of him but his own comfort in his rut. And the fact that she too feels like shit and just wants to feel like she matters actually makes her relatable to the mc/audience, if not also sympathetic. Satou craved a sense of purpose and fulfillment that he felt simply living a normal life day-to-day could not give him. In the end, Misaki became someone that Satou could live for.

This is all based on what I recall from watching the anime 14 years ago.

>>279930880
They are blind to the guiding light.

>>279931228
Such a shame that they deprive themselves of beauty

My angel is so cute.

>>279932277

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh7_YHd8JDU

>>279930856
To play the devil's advocate so to speak.
I don't know what she expected.
Same shit as someone complaining that the druggie they took in is still a fucking druggie.
Like no shit nigger what did you expect?
Why would you think a druggie would change up their lifestyle after moving in with you especially when your enabling their druggie lifestyle which in your case is enabling your neet lifestyle?
And bringing you over to tokyo sounds cool and all, but I can't imagine that being a gaijin NEET in tokyo makes it easier to find a job.
Though that being said I also wouldn't blame her for breaking it off.

>>279932555
God, I always forget how good The Strokes are.
Also, I had no idea people still made AMVs

Misaki a slut. Reminder that she WILL cheat on you as soon as she gets bored of you.

>>279932789
Nice delusion, schizo.

>>279899605
better version

>>279932555
nice MAV
>>279932707
>I had no idea people still made AMVs
Why don't you make one for your angel too?
https://litter.catbox.moe/r7ukf9d08mayockq.mp4

>>279929771
but she is wearing panties

>>279933265
Typical response of an idiot. He can only troll others and can't state his own opinion.

>>279934243
lol

>>279909534
Semen demon.

>>279896224 (OP)
Satou fixed his life only when hunger forced him outside. After his parent stopped supporting his bullshit. And Misaki is totally useless shitgirl.

Misaki, my angel! my angel! my angel! my angel! my angel! my angel! my angel! my angel! my angel! my angel! my angel! my angel! my angel! my angel!

>>279931129
Addendum: Thinking about it, I was being too lenient. While Satou is responsible for getting his shit together, Misaki was wrong to sell him a fantasy that further kept him in complacency by distracting him from reality. She wasn't being malicious (in the anime) but enabling rarely is and it's still unhelpful. Doesn't make her unforgivable though, even if she did it to feel better about herself.

But again, their relationship could lead to something imperfect but beautiful. Or perhaps it's totally quixotic. Would it uplift them both or is it just codependency? Who knows.

>>279938144
She saved him.

I don't care, let me sleep, don't search for me again. I hate you.

>>279939699
Don't lie to yourself, you need her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMeHK_9k2fc
this was my favourite nhk amv

has anyone else read rebuild of nhk
i liked it

>>279933758
>Why don't you make one for your angel too?
I'm not very creative

>>279896224 (OP)
if you have no skill then give up
even if you try you will fail just the same

>>279899682
>No one likes a crab in a bucket
They're not pulling anyone down by making this thread. Do you not understand what the phrase means? Either that or you're just a cunt who is looking kick someone when they're down.

you can't die

>>279945019
You're taking the whole board with you. Soon you'll turn everything to shit.

>>279945156
What are you talking about...?

>>279942854
I don't know when to give up.

>>279896874
Same. When I was a kid he felt so old. Now look at me
Granted, I'm in a way better place now

>>279896730
>>279897112
>>279897409
This is the problem with you young guys. I get it, I was there, but without realizing it you guys are expressing extreme simp behavior. Instead of improving yourself to be worthy of a girl, you should be improving yourself to be worthy of your own respect. Chances are, that girl you like won't be around forever and suddenly you've lost all your motivation to better yourself. But when you better yourself, for yourself, you'll be surprised at what you can accomplish on your own. Don't rely on someone else to give you that energy and be your own man.

I'm many years older than satou and in a far worse place than he ever was
I'm probably going to be homeless and starving to death soon

I'm one year younger than Satou, and now I'm basically in Yamazaki's position (when he was still attending college and didn't have a cute farm wife), except I don't go to school.

>>279951512
They're pathetic manchildren. Don't bother. It's a waste of time.

>>279932789
honestly I don't think so but she WOULD be constantly teetering on the edge of suicide

>>279942606
no what is that

SHOT THROUGH THE HEART
AND YOU'RE TO BLAME

even if a misaki ever showed up you scum would just rape her

>>279954451
Nuh uh. At worst I'd sniff the morning stank off her anus without permission after a night of cuddling
all the young chaps on /a/ are too low t to rape. Consent doesn't matter when it comes to panty sniffing and toilet licking, but rape is quite frankly, too much effort and emotional stress. I mean, how many people here can even deal with the confrontational hardship of ordering your own tendies in person without the help of your mom or a doordasher?

>>279952107
Stop being an edgelord. Being young and stupid doesn't make one irredeemable.

>>279953404
sequel/reboot set in the 2020s
it's only 6 chapters, so pretty short

>>279955135
will check it out

>>279896224 (OP)
>about 10x worse
how so?

>>279954451
If Misaki was real, I would love her completely

>>279955745
what if she was a boy rather than a cute girl

>>279955825
Misaki is NOT a boy!

>>279956118
but if there was a dude with misaki's personality would you still feel love

>>279956145
There is only one Misaki. I won't entertain pretenders

>>279951512
Don't fret anon. Not all who wander are lost, as they say.
t. 2nd (you)
>extreme simp behavior
I don't think it's unbecoming of us (or at least myself) to recognize that having the responsibility of someone depending on you is highly motivating. In fact, I think it points in a noble direction to feel a sense of motivation from someone needing you. Of course, it would be better if we actually accomplished these things (and I wouldn't consider myself out of the fight, being as young as I am), but for the time being we are having a discussion on the internet where our (again, at least my own) fruits are mostly invisible.
>worthy of your own respect
That is another good motivator, and I think the first anon's implied dismissal of it (and their assertion that having a woman to aim for is the only real motivator) was incorrect, too.
>won't be around forever
As an aside, for myself these types of posts are a cry of longing for something unlikely in the modern era (a traditional, long-term marriage) that I believe I will struggle to achieve. Discussing it here in this way felt very cathartic.
>be your own man
I strongly like and agree with this message. Thank you for reeling in the others.

>>279956340
she is a fictional character
either there are no misakis or there are many possible misakis
but there's not *one* misaki

>>279956401
>I don't think it's unbecoming of us (or at least myself) to recognize that having the responsibility of someone depending on you is highly motivating.
Having someone depend on you is not the same as using someone as an outside motivation. What these anons are saying is, "if I had a cute girl around, THEN my life would be different." That's backwards. Why do you think people depend on others? Because in their eyes, that person is strong, reliable, and self-motivated. What you're looking for is co-dependency, and that's a big no-no anon. The only person who should be depending on you is your wife, children, and certain family members under special circumstances, for those are the only people whom you're obligated to. Yes, that also means you don't owe shit to your girlfriend until she's your wife (but that doesn't mean you can't still be her pillar, just know that it's not your duty to be). You guys are also making getting a girlfriend the goal. If you do that, you'll never be happy with yourself, which should be your actual goal--you need to become someone that you admire yourself. After that, it's just a matter of choosing the person who is worthy of YOU.
You seem like you got a good head on your shoulders, so I think you'll be fine. But know your worth as a man and get to it as soon as possible.

>>279956849
Misaki is real.

>>279958570
Misakis are real
Misaki isn't real

Women on twitter who never watched or read this are latching onto it like a flea on a dog

>>279942606
Thought it was cool as an additional material to the core story, but definitely doesn't replace it.

If you like NHK I'd recommend giving it a shot also. It's very different but the characters still generally act like themselves and it was nice to see new Yamazaki rants. I felt like the plot line had more of a logical continuation to it but the original definitely still made me more much emotional than anything. It's more NHK and scratched that itch that I missed from Tatsuhiko's stories

would be awesome to a see an "ultimate" version welcome to the nhk where it takes all the best scenes from the original and the different adaptions into one anime. That'd probably be my favorite hypothetical anime lol

>>279957794
>You guys are also making getting a girlfriend the goal. If you do that, you'll never be happy with yourself
This is so true it's not even funny.
You can end up in essentially NEET purgatory indefinitely(years and years) where life is a bit easier, but ultimately making no real progress.
And it's even worse in the end because you're not just hurting yourself any longer. Making you hate yourself even more.
Suppose Satou and Misaki got an apartment together, his parents still cut him off but Misaki still worked at the manga cafe and say her rich family gave her a modest allowance to cover the rest.
Do you think that is progress for Satou? Do you think he would be happy in the long run with that arrangement?
In the short run it might be some relief. But it's not much different than any of his other distractions where he walked down a path leading to nowhere.
You can say 'he wouldn't do that', or 'no one would do that'. But destructive behavior can exist a lot more easily then you might think when its enabled. Especially if you're predisposed to it and hate yourself already.

>>279958808
Is this really true? I haven't heard anyone really talking about the show. I can imagine it resurfacing but the only people who i've seen NHK are the ones i've introducted the anime/book to.

I'll use this to mention it's strange to me if you associate yourself to something so much without having read/watch/experiencing it. I mean there are so many Lain posers out there, it's only a 12 episode anime? You can get through it while taking your time in like a week if you wanted to, considering a lot of people instead watching shitty low quality youtube videos made in the hundreds

>>279959174
It’s performative. They see a piece of media and the chatter around it and cling to it to be part of the crowd. Kinda similar to how cosplayers will dress up as Makima without bothering reading the manga prior

>>279959165
I agree. Satou suffers a lot from inaction. If given the opportunity he tends to wait until he can't ignore the problem anymore to deal with it... He's the kind of person who needs to become independent and grow a spine basically. Misaki being his girlfriend would solve nothing to why he's depressed and suicidal, and would only has him rely on her even more because of his social anxiety. Having someone to care about helps though, I can't disagree with someone claiming that but still doesn't fix the core issues with satou

Misaki oppai!

>>279959004
i feel like rebuild is maybe a lot more about acceptance?
i'm not sure how to phrase it, but it feels like satou and misaki are ultimately just accepting themselves as they are

>>279959165
i mean i watched both nhk and lain on youtube, in terrible quality, with each episode split into 3 parts
i also completely missed lain's plot and only noticed the cool computer aesthetics
it didn't stop either from being incredibly influential on me and defining who i was as i got older in a big way
also like what the fuck else are people these days supposed to be into

>>279958602
stop spreading lies

Breeding misaki (consent optional)

>>279959993
pedophile rapist

>>279959993
that's a crime

>>279960050
I don't think misaki is a pedophile.

>>279960094
only if you get caught

>>279960222
retarded pedophile rapist

Misaki rabu

>>279960760
she isn't retarded either

>>279957794
>so I think you'll be fine
Thanks, I'm working on it.
>get to it as soon as possible
God willing, I will make myself proud.
>>279959165
>destructive behavior can exist a lot more easily then you might think
I've had this for a while. My father passed away young and I had nothing/no one pushing me forward. The only thing left was a general sense of shame and resentment that other people were/are better than me for having continued their lives (and accomplished things). This has made it easy to hate myself and I've struggled to push myself over the years, mostly wasting time on vidya for hours upon hours.

>>279961026
I feel you man, my dad died of cancer when I was 13 and I know it's not easy but you'll make it as long as you keep your head up and are a good person. Hell, there are plenty of guys who have dads that still don't get it--and that's because it's not whether or not you have a father that helps, it's having a real man to help guide and teach you how to be a man (something which not a lot of fathers are from what I've noticed, and I theorize that these men probably made getting laid the goal, too). You're already ahead of the game for realizing that video games, while a good way to unwind, are ultimately a time-waster and shouldn't be taking up the majority of your free time.

>>279960832
Misaki kissu

>>279961275
french

>>279962000

>>279896224 (OP)
>>279896730
>you don't want to be the person you want to be
>you know that this person would have no trouble getting a nice wife
>make a blogging thread on /a/ about your "problem" instead of going to /adv/
You are probably an ESL or lower working class American.

Zettai!

>>279963259
>I got lost haha
I fucking hate satou.

>>279960848
criminal scum
Misaki is not for rape

>>279964480
she's rape-coded

>>279961026
>>279961272
I'm the anon the person you replied to was replying to, and for some reason I feel compelled to mention that my dad also died of cancer when I was slightly younger but similar age.
Just a strange semi-coincidence I guess.
I can not imagine getting away with so much of what I did had that not been the case. A lot of games, self-hatred etc as well.

>>279963395
Satou is Faggot Of The Year every year

>>279964752
Say that to my face, you fucking asshole.

>>279897065
>Satou being a patron saint of NEETs in their early 20's despite matching little to none of the characteristics of the majority of that group has always bugged me.
That describes the majority of NEETs in their early 20s

>gaijin be like!

she's so beautiful

>>279966935

>>279967790
I must protect her smile with my life.

love love love love

>>279969379
INSANITY LAUGHS AND OUR PRESSURE WILL BUILD!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a01QQZyl-_I

Misaki probably smells like vanilla.

don't die please

>>279896730
I used to not believe this but now I think it's true. Men would stop dropping out of society if they were given their waifu.

>>279946224
trying and then failing is more painful than never trying

>>279972183
Life without Misaki is already painful.

>>279896828
>lift
>get fit
>still lonely loser just now with muscles

Senpai is such a big red flag

>>279896988
that is a good thing because what most of us really need is a friend and not a woman

Not on my watch.

>>279973548
What would happen if I licked that spoon?

>>279976007
it would be extremely painful

>>279976055
I have a big tongue.

>>279976117
>>279976117
>>279976117
>>279976117

>>279896224 (OP)
I'm finding the manga difficult to read. Should I drop it?

Misaki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>279968689
Misaki smiles save the world!

I wish Misaki a happy life.

I really want to smell her

enabling Misaki to reach sexual adulthood through the ass

>>279978432
Cute Misakibutt

>>279978522
I almost feel bad for breaching its purity

>>279978767
There's nothing wrong with making love!

>>279979015
the love story between Misaki's colon and my thick incel glans...

>>279979377
Posts like this are why you're a dama ningen

>>279980501
>dama ningen
lmao

>>279980854
I love when she says that and "zettai" so fucking cute

i'm so fucking lonely bros.

>>279981596

>>279981596
stop feeling lonely

>>279981596

>>279981910
ok, but how

>>279984625
1) you're the one who chooses to make yourself miserable
2) if you crave bonding with people so much, strive towards communicating with 3D humans instead of shitposting here

>>279910326
This is the truest post in the thread. Life as a neet is lonely and boring, life as a normie is just boring and annoying in different ways. Normalisation champions seem so quick to forget that having a gf or a family has the utter downside that you lose all your freedom, but life as a neet has too much freedom. Human life is inherently problematic. All we do is deal with out problems our whole lives. There is really only one solution, and if life is a problem then...

>>279984710
desu shitposting is more real than communicating or bonding people in this clown world.

>>279957794
>you'll never be happy with yourself, which should be your actual goal--you need to become someone that you admire yourself.
This person sounds like a smug arsehole that I don't want to be. Anyone who actually pays attention to themselves and their behaviour and still admires themselves sounds like a narcissistic douche.
But, that might be exactly the sort of society that normies want. In fact I'm quite sure it is. And everyone that diverges from this unconscious cult of hedonism veiled behind mutually egotistical individualism we'll just label as sick or dangerous and bully them into complying, drug them into submission, wait for them to crack and then arrest or destroy them, or just forget about them. Well, why not say fuck you to this system that wants you to love yourself? The anarchists are fond of the saying "No gods, no masters", we'll try tearing down the idol of yourself. The only thing I admire is the cold, crushing pointlessness of cosmic nature for its horrifying beauty.

But honestly whatever, km just spouting shit.

>>279985427
oath, no one is really honest like you can be online.

>>279985448
Dude, you only have one life. You might as well live it being at peace with who you are, and it's a lot easier when you're someone that you yourself can admire

At least I'm in college haha

>>279985727
Is that really a good thing?

>>279985606
There is no peace for the living. Maybe there is for living-dead idiots who are capable of building their own self congratulatory mausoleums out of their egos.
But it could just be that I'm not capable of even imagining what my life would be like such that I could respect myself. Or maybe I'm just to lazy to put in the work to become a version of myself I admire. Even if I did become a typical smug normie, then I'd have normie first world annoyances. All there is to look forward too is becoming a frail old fuck incapable of tacking care yourself anyway.
Or maybe I'm too dumb or afraid. At any rate, I wish I was fucking dead already. Fuck this life man. I think I must be actually schizo.

>>279916145
?

Remember anons...

If You have the courage to jump
You have the courage to live

>>279988928
well it's easy to jump, but really fucking hard and annoying to live.

any day now...

>>279916625
I disagree. Misaki was intending to help him, but she also wanted to help herself at the same time.


Her intent was to prove that she was useful and good for the people around her in order to prove her second father wrong. That she was more than a source of misfortune and pain. By showing that good things can happen she is also proving God wrong by showing the world can be more than 90% pain.

>>279986873
>>279985448
>Anyone who actually pays attention to themselves and their behaviour and still admires themselves sounds like a narcissistic douche.
bruh self loathing is just as egotistical as self admiration. unironically see a therapist, or read some stoicism or something idk just get out of your own head

Please don't kill yourself, Misaki is still looking for you.

>>279991055
I would kill myself for Misaki if she really wanted me to

>>279989007
Living is actually pretty easy. You’re doing it right now

>>279992015
I would too but Misaki is an angel, an angel would never do that!

>>279993095
yeah i'm breathing rn. but there is difference between living and "living"

>>279896730
>Don't be naive.
The irony of this post is killing me

I want to immerse myself in Misaki’s girly smell

>>279994807
Banila

>>279994807
curious what does a girly loser smells like?

>>279995054
Banira. Also she's not a loser.

>>279995054
Sweaty
>>279995398
Misaki is my cute smelly loser gf

>>279995054
>>279995875
that title goes to her

>>279995875
She's not a disgusting smelly loser like you!

>>279996095
Haven't read the manga huh?

>>279990528
My self loathing is based on an honest appraisal of my value as a person. I agree it is egotistical, thats just another part of why I loathe myself. Probably 90% of the time I spend "out of my own head", it all- every human endeavour- just amounts to fleeing and masking the futility of life, so why the fuck should I bother. >>279988928
What's funny about this is I don't have the courage to jump, nor the courage to live so...
>>279993095
I don't know if I can remember what living is. I think it might be something you do as a stupid person or something you do until you turn like 30 or something. After that there is only dying.

>>279996113
Honest people aren't losers.

Misaki >>280000000 get please

>>279996175
that's righ-
>>279899668
>>279909534

>>279996283
You are delusional.

>>279993359
Double suicide with Misaki!

>>279896874
>people ask me what I want to be all throughout highschool
>invariably answer "NEET"
>Unironically my misaki arrives early, convinces me to go to college
>fast forward a lot of fuckups
>now NEET, not on my own terms
>older than satou
>possibly even more worthless

>>279996919
If she wishes to.

>>279984625
Wait for Misaki.

>>279998640
Misaki love

angeru

>>279999406
Total rabu!

>>279999496
>HEEEELP SHE'S SAVING ME
faggot satou

What's her birthday?

kissu

>>279999924

Misaket

>>279999945

>>279999999
cute get

>>279999999
WASTED

>>279999999
GETsaki!

>>279996207
close

>>279999999
NORMIE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

TOTAL MISAKI LOVE

>>279999999
win

>>279999999
Deserved
>Captcha:ASP4S

>>279996169
>every human endeavour- just amounts to fleeing and masking the futility of life, so why the fuck should I bother.
that's just textbook depression. you basically got tilted into oblivion and then convinced yourself that life being fucked up is the norm. again, unironically get some help.
search healthygamergg+depression on youtube for someone actually qualified to talk about this shit

>>279896224 (OP)
>anon watches NHK instead of watching TTGL
The thread

>>279999999
Check'd

>>279984597
cute

>>279999999
TOTAL MISAKI SPAMMER VICTORY

There's a thing. Misaki knew that Satou exist and where he lives because he left his home almost every day. But (you) sit inside and your own Misaki has no idea that you exist. Maybe she walked next to your home 5 minutes ago.

>>280002857
Misaki haters stay losing!

>>279922568
for the endless rotation of zoomers on /a/ that may read this, this is all true. the vast majority of old people never accomplish their dreams. most people spend their youth dreaming about a time when things get "better".
but, the reality of the matter is, circumstances usually become worse overall as time goes on. however life becomes more enjoyable as you age, despite the inifinite march of entropy. you may be thinking, how is life more enjoyable despite becoming worse over time? well typically, as you age, you stop caring about unrealistic or unattainable goals, or you've had a small taste of what you wanted & realize it wasn't what you thought it'd be.
you learn to appreciate what you do have & the little things in life. not caring isn't an excuse to become a degenerate however, you always be working towards becoming a consistent, stable worthwhile person for yourself.

young people often waste their youth dreaming of someone "saving" them from their despair, but the reality of the matter is, no one is coming to save you. you have to learn to love & value yourself. the sooner you realize this the sooner you will learn to enjoy life regardless of who is in it.

Misaki is a whoere SLUT BITCH

BITCH
SLUT
misaki is a BITCH WHORE SLUT

>>279999999
WIN
>>280004556
>>280004571
shut up jeet

>>280004722
Misaki is the DEVIL

>>279896730
>a cute girl's affections is about as potent a motivation as you can possibly have.
I'm 26, don't even know if this is true or not anymore. But I don't want to live in the world where it is. So as a man, your prize for all of this is just a lousy gf? How depressing and underwhelming. I'm supposed to be motivated? I really hope this idea is just the immature whinings of lonely simps and there's something more important in life than love.

>>280003535
>japjajapjapwhyisnthisinr9kjapjapjpa
i don't think any of the NHK characters had any lofty ambitions, misaki's wants were probably the only ones that might have been unattainable with mid tier effort levels, and even then that's only because she was raised by evangelical pamphlets and burnt siagrettes rather than your average parents.

>>279896224 (OP)
It's crazy how people still romanticize Misaki to this day. I thought it was pretty obvious she's supposed to have bad motivations to a comedic effect. She is very goonable though. Yum yum yum.

>>280006107
you dirty dama ningen

>>280006107
>It's crazy how people still romanticize Misaki to this day.
I want to romanticize her all night long

>>280008288
100 babies with Misaki...

>>279999999
Mis/a/ki year

>>280009373
Mamasaki

>>280006107
"I can fix her!"

>>280011686
There's nothing to fix. Misaki is an angel

>>279988217
penetrating Misaki's asshole so deep that my cocktip gives little kisses to her colon

>>280009373
With a frame that small she'd require C-section every time

>>280012367
She's the devil and she knows it.

>>280005664
Good point. People just desperately try and inject hope into a hopeless situation because they fear the futility of it all.
>>280001654
That's just text book denial of futility, see how easy it is to manipulate psychological ideas? So if I'm not willing to accept the normie world view then I'm labelled sick and drugged up to insulate others.

Well, having read the novel, I can say it's the most depressing version compared to the anime and the manga. The ending is fucking bleak. Satou went through a lot of shit, suffered immense psychological damage, and ended up in the exact same situation that he started in, alone in his tiny apartment. Only difference is that he has a job. I think that's my fate too.

>>279999999
Misaki confirmed angel

>>280005664
>So as a man, your prize for all of this is just a lousy gf?
It's really not.
Don't get discouraged because of those posts.
I'm not going to shit on someone who found that as short term psychological crutch to lose 100 pounds and get their shit together or whatever. If that worked for them, then fine.
But it's certainly not any kind of long term 'answer', so don't accept it as some kind of fact of life. It's not.

i will find misaki

>>279896224 (OP)
Admit failure. Cry a lot. Realize that even though you failed it's likely not as bad as you think it is. Work towards a goal of de-NEETing.

>>279999999
misaki win

Misaki's little fists

>>280018658
my angel is so cute

>>280019213
Adorable righteous fury

what an adorkable girl failure.
i wish i have my own

>>280016233
>I hate myself and sad all the time and want to die
>NO I'M NOT DEPRESSED IT'S THE WORLD'S FAULT NOTHING IS WRONG WITH ME
lol whatever you say eeyore

>>280020815
always right

>>279985448
Well if you're happy with yourself as you are, that's fine i guess.

>>280012843
Hey!

Kissu

>>280012843
h-hot
I wish was an ojisan kissing and penetrating misaki's cute butt

>>279906888
>>279906405
You guys really weren't kidding about botposts

>>280022252
Misaki's soft lips...

>>280022504
>botposts
It's me.

I just don't want Misaki thread to die.

>>280022505
I am thinking LEWD things about them!

plain girls are cute

>>279910558
3dpd shitbox
get out

>>279917252
bro move one it's just one girl

>>279999999
rigged btw

>>280023642
french kiss!

>>280025348
W--with my penis

9999999
must be a sign
to change
your ways
hikikomori

I want to play with Misaki's hair.

The entire moral of the story is to get off your lazy ass and do something about it

>>280025919
Without Misaki, I am nothing.

>>279981674
It's always the fucking NHK...

>>280025974
You can acquire a misaki once you make something of yourself

>>280025974
you

>>280026138
I don't care anymore.

>>280026283
and this is why the hiki cleaning service industry is still booming in japan and might be joining in the west.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh9x48Hi6rc

i'll be sure to heavily invest when they opened an IPO.

>>280005664
You are about to enter the next stage. After realizing that everything is a scam and chasing sex is all neurochemical trickery by evolution, you'll realize that the only pure thing left is kids. Compared to all the fake and corrupt adults, kids are actually kind of wonderful. You start worrying if they are alright nowadays. And before you know it, you wouldn't mind wrangling a brat and helping her grow up healthy, because if you don't, who else will? Besides, there's nothing else meaningful to do anyway.

>>279985448
Your view on narcissism is twisted. You don't have to mentally masturbate yourself or pay attention to yourself, or cast judgement on anyone (though these coping mechanisms are rampant in today's immoral society). Just look around and do what needs to be done with a healthy level of confidence in your ability to get it done, and feel good knowing you improved the world or someone important to you, and feel that you are good human being because of it. Rather, why are you hating yourself so much? Maybe you feel guilty of doing bad things or not doing the right things? If you take a honest look at yourself, you should know what you should be reasonably expected to do and what not to do. It's built-in. But be also careful of getting guilt-trip by intellectualized societal agendas.

>>279896730
>a cute girl's affections is about as potent a motivation as you can possibly have
The affections of someone else will never motivate me in a meaningful way.
Knowing that what I do can and will improve the life of me or someone I care about will.
In fact, if I let the affection of those people affect what I did, it might be an active hindrance to being able to help them in a situation they can't get out of, and that they don't even see as an issue.

>>279896730
yep. it's another catch 22 moment

>>280026805
I want to be Misaki's property!

>>279999999
>>280030000
Misakets

>>280030944
dubs

your fucking welcome
https://character.ai/chat/4p1FP-NE-RCIcPOErkVeoyJRKQuyL7AMtwUf76BFKjc

>>280031542
nice

>>280031542
thank ESL-san

>>280035677
Misatummy!

>>280035752
lovely

>>280036033
Sexy lips!

Misaki is so girly.

>>280038093
It's pretty girl summer!

>>280038497
cute and classy

>>280038639
I absolutely love her miniskirt

Everything about Misaki is perfect

>>280038995
Even her past?

>>280039854
Zembu