Thread 281533641

New chapter today.

What killed the hype?

Dumpanon here, will dump chapter here as soon as possible.

>>281533641 (OP)
God I hope it's a plan B chapter, or maybe a Becky chapter.

>>281533752
You will never prove that I killed Mr. Hype. There is no evidence!

>>281533798
It's a Melinda chapter.

>>281533898
That's almost as good as a becky chapter

>>281533641 (OP)
was waiting for this.

Dumping

>>281534124
Dammit Loid, stop bad mouthing Anya.

>>281534261
Cute!

>>281534089
Thanks for delivering as always

>>281534587
Oh no, a group of weirdos

>>281534587
>straight up aleister crowley

>>281534587
>Mister Crowley.

>>281534587
Oh look, it's that kid's dad. Didn't think he'd be relevant so soon.

Yor-Loid-Melinda threesomes when?

>>281534499
That face looks more threatening than sad.

>>281534587
https://youtu.be/o0RE230PlX4?feature=shared

>>281534334
Yor eating it proves nothing, could still be enough to take down an elephant

>>281534779
Highly exploitable top panel.

>>281534547
doujin material

>>281535073
Vulgar my ass. I'm licking a lid right now.

>>281535141
Get this cad locked for obscenity.

>>281535073
>>281535137
>lots of noise in the reading
>spirits don't cooperate when there's a demon in the room

>>281535141
Lay off the dairy queen fatty

>>281535185
Melinda looks rough here, I could save her

>>281535277
End of the chapter. I hope you enjoyed it. All chapters can be found here https://mega.nz/folder/xxMBgC6A#P2VM5Gfn-4wyyLmdR8k_Rw
This one I'll upload little later today. Until next time and stay safe, buddies.

>plot progression
Impossible! Not in my SOL manga.

>>281535328
So is Anya's secret going to be revealed first (ironically)?

>>281535328
We have our mark

>>281535185
Melinda must legitimately have no real friends to be this defensive of Yor.

>>281535328
Desmond resigned rather than being voted out? That's new.

Melinda Al Ghul

>>281534395
Do you feel like a hero Twilight?

>>281535328
Looks like those old theories about Authen are gonna be true

>>281535328
Obviously this guy is involved.

>>281534587
They're redditors

Donovan is a good guy. Some fuckers tinkered with is brain.

Anyabros… Yor has made in few chapters more progress to getting closer to bad guy than us in the whole manga… What will we do about this?

>>281535655
Enjoy the story? I like Anya, but she can take a back seat every now and then.

>eat little bit that is suck to the lid
that's fine
>using a spoon for that
what a disgusting pig

>>281535655
Truly Loid should abandon her

>Aliens
>Occultism
>Espers
Which will be the next supernatural subject introduced by Axeman?

>>281535328
really similar to a mind reader

>>281535655
Anya is a useless peanut we all knew Operation Astrid was doomed since the beginning

I said this, Donovan Desmond is the good guy, the reason he become reclusive because he knew about project Apple, and also the Anya Experiment.

>>281535328
Well if it wasn’t obvious Donovan can read minds too…

>>281535720
Cryptid.

>>281535655
Yor has carried Strix for a while. Loid doesn't even get a chance to try to use her because she constantly hands him leads without him even asking.
Ironically, not knowing about Strix seems to give her a major leg up over everyone that does.

>>281535720
Oni who LOVE sweets.

>fell ill and collapsed
Human experiment confirmed. I have a feeling the Authens will do some hypnosis as well to recover Anya’s repressed memories

>>281534089
Guess that confirms Damian’s age

>>281535328
Chapter uploaded

>>281535328
Plot progression?!

>>281535720
Amaterasu herself will come down to tell garden the royal line is done and their duty is discharged

>>281535720
Would you really consider aliens occult? Or supernatural?

Some higher up, or maybe even Lin, must have told Axeman to stop writing pointless Eden chapters that are essentially identical and amount to nothing. Or maybe he had a falling out with the idol he bends over backwards to satisfy with school stuff. Interest is dying so you better write something that gets people interested sort of thing.
Some of you like those chapters, but I'm sorry you can pretty much skip reading those and miss nothing. Not even good SoL content or comedy since they're very samey.

It's the only explanation as to why we're seeing the actual spy in SxF. His hand has been forced.

>>281536145
K, cool. See you at the next Eden chapter.

>>281536145
Eden obviously has some kind of connection to Project Apple (and "Project Anya") and Garden that is far less obvious than the connections the latter have to each other. I am all for Axeman doing more Eden chapters if he delves into that.

>>281535328
Our girl Yor is always moving the plot.

>>281535789
> war criminal commie bastard dindu nuthin

stfu, enough with the retcon no stakes plots. he will go to prison at least and no asspull will save him

>>281534261
>They all have Loid’s “D:” face
Kek

>>281535328
The plot thickens

>>281534547
I willing to be that bearded dude is than one kid with the grad cap’s father

>>281536336
Eden... Garden... Project Apple...

>>281534587
>>281536492
Ah I called it

>>281536404
even the bowling ball

>>281534334
>>281534395
Just fuck already!

>>281536515
Now it all makes sense Dewitt!!

>>281536336
>>281536515
Garden of Eden...
Forbidden fruit...
Apple of Eden...

Bravo Axeman.

>>281535328
>Yor is such a bad character that Axeman has no choice but move the plot forward whenever she's onscreen

>>281536889
Is this the latest cope?

>>281536145
So did you just completely forget about the cruise arc, or Martha's past? We've gone months without the school before.

Usually not a complete degenerate nor a three-way fag but I need Loid with Yor and Melinda stat. In his office. Fiona can watch but can't get involved.

>>281534587
He is the triangle hair kid's dad

>>281534462
I wonder if that comment from Dr. Forger was genuine or if that was just good acting. If that was Redacted that slipped out there. It's certainly framed as such but only Yor really gets Redacted to show up.

Maybe one of the reasons Yor has been able to maintain such a sweet personality is that she can't read negativity at all. She has no idea when people are being mean to her.

Donovan knows that Loid is a spy right?
He had a lot of sus thoughts when he met him for the first time.

>>281537518
He most likely knows but there's also the possibility that his mind reading isn't as perfect as Anya's.

>>281537518
I assume he knows, but probably every second person he meets is a spy, thus to him it's just Tuesday

>>281537586
One theory I heard which I like is that Anya can read people’s present thoughts, Bond gets premonitions of the future and Donovan can only read people’s past memories

>>281537518
I think he may have a less refined version of Anya's telepathy, and it reads everyone's thoughts rather than one at a time.

>>281536354
War criminal? What evidence is there he did that? The closest we have to that is his leadership may have caused the war to last longer. He wasn't even in charge when the war started.

Also, Ostania does not appear to be communist.

>>281537504
Redacted eyes are usually more distant. He also presented far more like his emotive, kindly doctor persona in that chapter than the quietly kind but also rather grumpy guy he usually is around Yor and Anya.

>>281534735
> I've fallen in love with my husband
interesting that her inner monologue is less uncertain than what she told Anya in the last full chapter

>>281533752
Nothing ever fucking happens

>>281537728
>>281537778
If he does have one, I imagine his would likely be the 'imperfect' one where he could only read snippets of it rather than full-blown thoughts like Anya has. It would have supported his whole ultra-paranoid personality because when he'd thought he could get a grasp of someone, he was only met with more uncertainty of what their full intention was now.

>>281537904
Except when it does.

>>281537890
How do you mean? Both times she stated that she's fallen in love Loid. She doesnt seem any less confident in her declaration here than with Anya. Unless you mean her hesitating to say it to the group. But thats more so because itd be weird to tell people that your biggest worry is falling in love with your husband, the person you should already be in love with.

>>281535423
>Desmond resigned rather than being voted out? That's new.

Indeed. I'd always assumed he was voted out in the same election that caused his party to lose control of Ostania.

>>281538096
Anon is probably referring to Yor using "might" as a qualifier when she was talking to Anya. Though she clarified afterwards that it was a very specific type of love and refuted Anya's comparisons so she had to have had a pretty good understanding of her own feelings even then.

>>281537778
Anya struggles in crowded rooms too

>>281534654
If the TL ever cares for feedback, it's
>we can guide our souls to a higher "plane" of-

I have to admit, as a TL myself, I both love and fear feedback from readers. Mistakes end up being just that, but I hate myself for not catching them...

is there any progression at all or is it all anya dumb, yor strong and dumb and loid clever but oblivious?

>>281534735
Don't worry, Yor; licking the yogurt lid's underside is the FIRST step I take when eating a yogurt cup. Gives me reason to open the cup right at the 'fridge, since I can immediately enjoy my purchase and throw out the trash plastic with the garbage bin right there, instead of at my table or couch.

>>281535403
its the easiest to bring out. She knows their secrets, but them being stupid, will think only they have one, so they will play it nice with her so she can keep the charade going, no need for Anya to tell them about the others secrets.

>>281533752
Barely any progress compared to the amount of chapters it already has. The mangaka is stretching it out to milk the success.

>>281534779
>>281535007
Pretty surprised no one posted a crop, yet.

>>281538392
Yor starting to properly fall for Loid

>>281534644
>"What on in your head?"

>>281533641 (OP)
Spy times Family

>>281538392
Nope. No progress.

>>281538392
How are you defining progression?

>>281534587
ozzybros...

>>281535277
>>281535328
This proves why Plan C is more useful and lucrative. We should just abandon Anya.

>>281535328
Crowley, now Authen...I thought these background characters were created for fun

>>281538392
Loid is just about to start investigating more people. He's getting closer with Melinda (and thus Donovan), he's about to dig up info on Yor again (because he believes he got incomplete info), and now he's gonna look up the Authens. WISE and Garden will also look into each other and it's inevitable.

>>281538989
I know it's a joke, but abandoning Anya is just as risky as dumping Yor. People would be asking where she is, why she isn't coming to school, etc.

>>281538754
I feel like the answer is yes on every measure other than if they're closer to discovering each other's identities. It's only started ramping up recently, but it's there.

>>281534261
>>281534334
>Melinda accepts the overtuned Gympie blend
Oh shit

>>281534735
Fionasisters.....

>>281539125
>>281539154
Literally me

>>281534124
The sign of a good chapter.

>the SSS presents Shopkeeper with jobs "straight from the prime minister"
>meaning prime ministers know about Garden
>Desmond knows about Garden
Is this how we're going to get Twilight vs Thorn Princess?

>>281534547
>>281534587
Ventura, ventura, space people

>>281535073
How much do you believe this reading is actually relevant to the story?

"A rustling forest" when we just got done with our only arc in a forest environment seems purposeful, like the mangaka telling us that this meant to be somewhat legit.
"A room with drawn curtains" and "smoke" are classic spy/assassin flags
"Timid teacups", maybe something about Yor and Lloid's relationship?
"The roshambo of crows" I have no idea for. Crows may be associated with the Garden somehow? A roshambo might means that there must be a definite winner and a loser between the assassins.

>>281535826
Odds on him getting the Authens moved next door after meeting with Loid the one time?

Chapter illustration

>>281534124
Anya inherited Denji's mouth from CSM part 1 when Fuji stopped using it

>>281537505
She's always giving people the benefit of the doubt even when she suspects they're putting her down. It may be that she doesn't hold that against people when she doesn't think highly of herself in the first place.

>>281534261
>>281534334
>>281534779
>>281535137
>>281535185
Why is Melinda so much of a dyke for Your?

>>281541150
It's called having a friend, you loner.

>>281541150
Yor is so genuine and always assumes the best of everyone. A rarity in this manga full of lies.
So she can win pretty much anyone over.

>>281540059
The last time there was a reading, it did seem like it was relevant, albeit more about Melinda than the person it was supposed to be about. These visions do seem more Garden-like, though, especially the red blizzard and the rustling forest. Smoke could be war, maybe?
>"The roshambo of crows" I have no idea for. Crows may be associated with the Garden somehow?
I could see the Garden connection since crows are often associated with death, but that's a tenuous link at best.
>"Timid teacups", maybe something about Yor and Lloid's relationship?
I've seen a lot of talk about the family being represented by teacups and whether or not you're considered part of it depends on what cup you get when you visit. There's even a track in the anime ost called teacups that plays mostly over family scenes. Axeman is into storytelling via obscure details enough that I could see this being intentional.

As an aside, my excursion into trying to determine when Teacups plays ended up confirming that the second half of Shopkeeper's theme has yet to appear. Listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9SueYsIU6c&t=86s
What did Axeman tell them is coming that led them to create this piece and associate it with Shopkeeper/Garden?

>>281539065
Authen at least has been suspected by fans of being a bigger deal than he seems ever since he said that line wondering just what he was doing during the war.

>>281541788
>associate it with Shopkeeper/Garden
The strings make it sound like an emotional piece more than anything. I got more of a sinister vibe from the Thorn Princess theme they put out for the first season.
It does seem like the reading mostly has to do with Yor on the surface, but I wonder if Anya fits into it given the strong hints that Donovan has a power similar to hers.

>>281541150
She's aiming for her husband.

>>281534547
I feel like it's understated, but I really like how Axeman designs his background characters to look so distinct from one another. He's been leaving that to his assistants lately so it's nice to see him put more out again.

>>281542108
>The strings make it sound like an emotional piece more than anything.
I thought the same. It sounds like something tragic happening. It's probably something from Yor's backstory, but it's interesting to think of what else it could be.

>>281534207
>breaks and splits the pins in half
What a cute little monster.

>>281537504
Loid has people think well of him all the time, it's part of his persona as the approachable and friendly family man. But ultimately he's not talking to Melinda to solve her problems as much as he is to gain more information on her husband. He confirms as much at the start and the end of today's chapter.

>>281535655
Anya x Damian dates

>>281535720
Time traveler

>>281543522
Heh

>>281535655
>connection revealed between the Authens and the Desmonds
>Loid uses tutoring Anya as a pretext to get more information on his neighbors
Duh. It's more embarrassing that so much time was spent trying to sell a friendship between Anya and Damian as a plan when we've known for the longest time that he was a dead end.

>>281534587
MIIIIIIISTER CROOOOOWLEEEEEEY

Yuri xChloe

>>281543722
Bring me a dream

Eh, fuck it;
>A Rustling Forest
Approaching tumult, hidden from view, but coming just the same.
>A Room with Drawn Curtains
The End, or rather, "a" end, as in 'it's curtains for you'. Somebody's dying.
>Smoke
Confusion. Misunderstandings. Incorrect assumptions.
>Timid Teacups
Three fake identities, prim and proper, but thoroughly fragile.
>The Roshambo of Crows
Powerful entities grappling with each other for power, leaving naught but death in their wake.
>A Headache Hurts
The disguises shatter, the truth is revealed, at great cost.
>A Red Blizzard
Mass slaughter would be the most obvious conclusion... but red also means passion, love... so, perhaps "love overwhelms all else"?

>>281534779
>mars versus venus problem understanding

>>281543558
Now watch that 'abandoned' angle bear unexpected fruit in the endgame.

...yeesh, it feels like I always kill threads when I post in them.

>>281544899
SxF threads are just really slow, especially now that the Garden arc is over.
I'm pleasantly surprised that Axeman seems to be steamrolling on ahead, though I couldn't possibly guess where this is leading.

>>281545451
I assume Twilight's next action will be to try to get information out of mister Authen, probably with tutoring Anya as an excuse. What, if anything, he'll learn though is anybody's guess.

>>281543986
Since Axeman wrote all of these out in English on the page, I took them as being literal.
A forest is a forest, and the most prominent forest in the story is the south where Yor and Damian both went, around the old location of the Mitera empire, which may be connected to the main secrets of the story. A room with drawn curtains is used for secret meetings, so could be anything from Donovan's secrets to WISE or Garden's meetings, or possibly the SSS. Smoke for either smokescreens, cigarettes, or fire, could refer to a specific event.
Roshambo of crows is odd, but saying roshambo itself implies that some point of contention was decided by something silly. A hurting headache could vaguely refer to a lot of characters in the manga, prominently Melinda or Loid, but perhaps Donovan or Anya. Red blizzard could also mean anything; Axeman's old work makes me think it's something violent, but it could be something sillier what with that "Red Snowman" chapter.

I miss Freddy.

>>281533752
Probably all of Denji's constant character regression.

>>281537827
Aren't they a direct reference to east germany? Not to mention they have stalin's secret police.

>>281534261
>Yor chapter
BASED

also cute

>>281546348
Wrong thread, csm fag

>>281539929
I expect a pretty tense conflict if both of them get orders from their superiors to take out the other.

>>281545771
You mean Franky?

>>281546856
They are partially inspired by that, but in many ways the connection is loose.

To quote a detailed summary of this matter:

"The political structure and ideology of Ostania is not entirely clear, with it seemingly trying to venture towards being socialist, corporatist, oligarchic or militaristic, without committing to either one. Though it is based on East Germany, which was a socialist satellite state, it is implied multiple parties exist in the Ostanian government with some level of competition, which differs from the one-party state that such countries are known for. Additionally, communist countries generally held a tight grip over the economy, preventing private ownership outright other than maybe small businesses/cooperatives under state oversight, but this is not shown to be the case for Ostania, which features big businesses, entrepreneurs, SMBs, and socialites, with the clearly laxed ownership of the tailor Yor frequents being just one good example—not only is it privately owned, but it is owned by a known political dissident. Authoritarianism is also shown to exist in Ostania's government, with the eyes of the SSS looming around everywhere and lots of media and press control, but the series is not 100% on this aspect either.

>>281547139
>you mean Franky?
Eww, no.

>>281545566
>What, if anything, he'll learn though is anybody's guess.
Authen is a real mystery box type character. He has a background in neurology, culture, and classical language, and we've just learned that he was paying house visits to Desmond. He could pull on and even connect any number of the major strings we have hanging right now. Unfortunately, he also has severe dementia, which means any info we get from him is going to be disjointed at best.
Additionally, something that no one has really touched on is that Donovan did not want Melinda near Authen. >>281535328 If you interpret Donovan as being secretly benevolent or at least still loving his family, this paints Authen as dangerous. If you don't, it begs the question of why Donovan suddenly found Melinda visiting with Authen unacceptable, especially when it seems like he was okay with it before.

>>281546886
>Yor adopting Melinda's mannerisms
I'm so glad they're friends now.

>>281547070
I don't know if Sylvia would do that. Even if he miraculously wins, it's probably a suicide mission. Thorn Princess isn't just going to roll over and die.

>>281534207
https://youtu.be/H7x-HJ-a2Xk

>>281535328
Confused on whose "glare" Melinda is talking about at the end. Was she there with her husband and before she could talk to Authen, Donovan glared at her and froze her, or was she walking up to Authen and Authen's glare froze her?

>>281534587
>Crowley
oh no
NO ONE EAT THE COOKIES

>>281548318
what

>>281548348
Aleister Crowley was known for making semen cookies

>>281534334
Yor has probably killed thousands of people and literally everyone trusts her.

>>281539252
>he's about to dig up info on Yor again (because he believes he got incomplete info)
He's going to observe her like she's a newly discovered species, it's not an active investigation. That was the joke of the last chapter; the arc opened on protecting a rare species of elk from poachers and now Loid is going to "study" Yor like he's a zoologist.

>>281548477
Her persona change when she goes into assassin mode is funny and all, and I know that this would make her seem perhaps unacceptably cruel to the reader, but I wish that she would do some assassinations where she uses her nice persona to get close to someone before killing them.

>>281548550
She's still plenty polite and apologetic even when she's working as an assassin, she just has no guile. Yor just isn't deceptive or treacherous. She's direct to a fault which is why she's able to better navigate everyone's secrets even when she's kept out of the loop.

>>281548550
Yor doesn't have persona changes. Thorn Princess is still just Yor. Even when she got aggressive with Hemlock, she was still apologizing in the middle of it. There used to be a very dark, bloodthirsty Thorn Princess, but that's because it was a very broken Yor. She's disappeared as Loid and Anya have fixed her.

>>281534547
When do they all drink the Flavor-Aid?

>>281537890
Anybody with two brain cells could understand what she meant.

>>281548372
I thought that was /k/.

>>281534089
>Melinda is almost two decades older than Yor
She must be so excited to have a younger mom friend. She had Demetrius kind of late, though.

>>281548294
I'm thinking it's the former, but maybe the raws would make it clearer.

>>281549296
If she somehow had Damian when she was 40 then it's no wonder he's such a shithead. Autism and Donovan's title both contributing to his ego.

>>281549296
She's 46 and he's 14.... how is 32 late? Did you mean damian, because yeah 40 is kind of late I guess.

>>281549413
Recall that in Ostania being unmarried in your late 20s is considered unusual for a woman. Perhaps the anon is referring to that? Assuming Melinda didn't marry late, it means she didn't have children until several years into her marriage, which isn't that odd depending on how hard they were trying and how lucky/unlucky they were.

>>281549249
They made semen brownies.

>>281549483
Maybe whatever experiment Donovan underwent had something to do with fertility. The perceived change in his personality did happen around the same time Damian was born.
>Constant Garden of Eden symbolism
>After Adam and Eve were cast out of the Garden they bore two sons
Wait a minute…

>>281549296
MILFs are so beautiful.

>>281549483
I had assumed Melinda was a bit younger than Donovan, but it looks like she's actually very close to him in age, so it feels odd that she waited so long either to be married or have a child with him, war or not. Especially since Melinda herself seems very fond of her children, even with Donovan's current treatment of them. And he was also more attentive towards Demetrius when he was younger, too.

>>281543232
Based and Haruhipilled

>>281549695
We already have a spiritual Eve, though, and it's not Melinda.

>>281549756
Why is Anya so put off by affection?

>>281549861
Takes after her fake father too much.

>>281549296
I don't know why Demetrius even exists. He's too young to reasonably be around Loid and Yor and too old to appear around Anya so it's hard to use him for anything other than fleshing out other side characters, which he also doesn't do.

>>281550191
>so it's hard to use him for anything other than fleshing out other side characters, which he also doesn't do

He has potential to. His experiences already give an extra window into how Donovan behaved before he changed. Plus, Melinda as I recall mentioned she thinks Demetrius also suspects Donovan can read minds.

>>281549804
I think Melinda can have an Eve parallel without being a literal one-to-one stand in for Eve here. The most notable part of Eve is that she became the mother of all humanity, so it's natural to have the mothers in the story have some coincidences that line up with that. Axeman will probably only delve into the real one-to-one symbolism once he gets to the core of the story, if he really wants to make the direct references at all.

>>281550191
To justify Strix's existence. WISE intelligence said that Donovan only visited Eden's imperial scholar mixers because of his son, but Damian only started school at the same time as Anya and couldn't be the reason he attends. I do think Demetrius should've been aged up a bit more so that he could believably be around more adults, but the Desmonds themselves are so closed off from the public that it's just hard to put them in social situations in general.

>>281548538
It's still set up as a subplot. He brings it up during his aside in the middle of the chapter and then it gets reinforced at the end. The part about not advancing the Desmond plan until he's finished seems to have been dropped within a single chapter, though. I have to assume Axeman was planning to stall and Lin put his ass to the fire.

>>281550433
>The part about not advancing the Desmond plan until he's finished seems to have been dropped within a single chapter,
To be fair, he wasn't expecting Yor to come home with Malinda's note book with buttloads of info.

>>281550191
Demetrius is seen as the perfect son of Donovan, a foil to Damian who is just doing his best and trying to get his dad's love. But we already know Demetrius is not right in the head. Melinda snaps and has to check in with the Forgers to relax. Who knows when Demetrius will snap too?

>>281534089
Who knew Fiona was capable of humour

>>281538545
>mfw any Eden chapter

>>281550937
She isn't.

>>281550937
Her life is a joke.

>>281551057
My belief that Donovan really is an alien has gone from 0% to 50% based solely on the fact that Loid said he wasn't and Loid is wrong about everything.
More seriously, the fact that this keeps coming up and they're only half brushing it off does add a bit of credence to there being something there.

>>281550433
>The part about not advancing the Desmond plan until he's finished seems to have been dropped within a single chapter, though.
That's just it, Loid was already looking into Melinda at the start and directing Fiona to research the associates of the Desmond family in order to better prepare for his next meeting with Donovan. He's not actively looking into Yor, he's being more attentive to her as a person beyond making sure she's not considering leaving the family. Ideally, this leads to him growing closer to her, but Axeman makes some really strange decisions with what he shows of Loid's character so it's not a given.

>>281551525
That seems like a retcon, though, anon.
>"Before I can advance the Desmond plan, I may need to first develop a complete understanding of who Yor is."
He says he's putting it on hold, and then he doesn't. I think a lot of us were expecting the focus to shift to one-offs or Eden for a bit so Loid could occasionally quietly observe Yor from the background without looking like he just wasn't doing anything.
I am obviously not unhappy that Axeman isn't stalling. I'm just saying it seems like his plans changed from "not pursuing Desmond while observing Yor" to "pursuing Desmond while observing Yor."

>>281552668
To be fair, he hasn't actually done anything new for the Desmond plan yet. Reviewing Melinda's test results is simply finishing something they already started, and everything else is Yor and Melinda's choices giving him new information that he is obligated (both for his real and fake job) to look over.

Plus he did say "I may need" not "I will need" so he has room to adjust that plan.

Getting new intel sources also doesn't necessarily advance the Desmond plan. For all he knows Professor Authen could be a dead end as far as information goes, to say nothing of information that would actually advance the plan of finding out Donovan's plans.

>>281536515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg
Makes me laugh everytime

>>281552844
Maybe, but it's not unheard of for Axeman to just be inconsistent. Loid gave up on Anya being an Imperial Scholar almost 100 chapters ago and he's been consistently meh about Stellas since. This chapter he said he's going to see Donovan at the next Imperial Scholar event. So he now expects Anya to not only become an Imperial Scholar again, but also to get the remaining five Stellas by the next event?
Given, he is still very negative about the progress towards becoming an Imperial Scholar so maybe he's looking into alternatives for getting in, despite the risk.

>>281552668
I'm just saying that it's less of a subplot and more of a shift in Loid's mentality towards Yor. One of the common reactions Japanese fans had to Loid's conclusion was that it was more of a punchline because he describes learning about Yor in the same way a researcher would talk about studying a newly discovered organism. So like how he sometimes observes Anya to better understand her, he decided to go about observing Yor in the same way.
And honestly, that is still a change in how he has treated her up until now. He always just ignored her until she dropped a crisis in his lap: butt bullet date, jealousy of Fiona, sudden marriage gripes. The only times he'd try to understand her were times when he thought she wanted to end their marriage. So just having him passively monitoring her is a step up from ignoring her when she's not upset.

>>281553336
He's in a tough spot because even outside of academics, Anya wouldn't be able to earn that many stars without seeming suspicious, and he can't use the same excuse as last time. He shouldn't even have been on the campus at all when he first met Donovan, so no doubt he looked suspicious with or without any mind reading involved.
Anya might be able to stay behind like last time if she manages to stay awake, but that seems like a huge risk if any of the speculation around Donovan links her to him.

>>281553336
>So he now expects Anya to not only become an Imperial Scholar again, but also to get the remaining five Stellas by the next event?

Perhaps how much she improved under Authen's tutelage changed his mind? She at least proved she could get a Stella academically, and he also learned why his previous attempts to teach her were so unsuccessful.

Bed breaking, baby making, snu-snu
That is all

>>281554060
>Agent Twilight, you wake the fuck up and get right back to having sex with your cover wife until that bed breaks in half.

>>281553336
Are we sure that's not a translation error and he actually only gave up on academic stars?

>>281554264
I think it's clear in that instance that he's talking about academics. Anya's first stella was from saving a drowning boy, and her second one was for helping diffuse a terrorist situation (which should've just made her an imperial scholar automatically).
Loid only started coming around to her earning them in academics after she got one from her finals, but because Anya failed another exam at the same time, he's still irritated and says it's rough going. He said early on that he can't just set up situations for her to earn them outside of tests, so he's starting to bank on Anya becoming a better student now that she's proven she can do well when she studies.

>>281554060
TOTAL YOR IMPREGNATION

>>281541150
You have your own general thread, yuritard.

>>281540059
Maybe it's related to that old story about a bunch of crows basically murdering one random crow among them like if it went on trial.

>>281554264
Doesn't seem like it. He was equally uncaring about the Stella she got from the bus arc. Pursuing Imperial Scholarhood from other methods would also be really unsustainable as he'd have to manufacture scenarios for her to go around saving people, which would be extremely suspicious.

>>281554422
>Loid only started coming around to her earning them in academics after she got one from her finals
He still hasn't. He was only concerned about the Tonitrus at the time in terms of the mission. He has to tell himself not to scold her because she worked really hard for this. Note that even when he praises her after, it's about that and not about his mission. It's reinforced the next chapter when Yor says Anya deserves the ski trip for how hard she worked and Loid is only thinking about the bolt.

>>281554750
>He has to tell himself not to scold her because she worked really hard for this.

That's not what his thoughts are though. Rather he says he won't scold her for the bolt because there is that much value in the fact she earned a Stella through academic achievement. That value presumably being (at least in part) that becoming a Imperial Scholar is on the table again.

>>281533752
dragging it as much as they can for sure.

My biggest FEAR is that they will introduce a time skip out of nowhere instead of pacing it through 1-2 arcs, and my biggest HOPE is that the whole family will know each other true identity/secrets

>>281555247
>That value presumably being (at least in part) that becoming a Imperial Scholar is on the table again.
As I said, that doesn't seem to be the case as he's back to only caring about the bolt the very next chapter. The immediate value in her being a better student is that she's less likely to get bolts and thus be expelled, which circles back to what he says here >>281553336

>>281555363
>my biggest HOPE is that the whole family will know each other true identity/secrets

On that I recall Endo implied way back in the Cruise arc that Yor and Twilight learning about each other would mean the series was ending soon (the context being he at some point considered Twilight and Thorn Princess more directly working together during the Cruise arc).

>>281555436
A time skip where Yor and Twilight still don’t know each other’s real identity would be too dark even for this show. no one wants to see Yor break down to that level.

Funny enough, I doubt a time skip will happen until the show’s popularity drops really low. They know everybody wants to see a teenage Anya redesign and an increase in the romantic tension in her life, it would be lovely if she stays as oblivious as she is till the end, Sakura Card Captor style.

>>281554515
>like if it went on trial
it's because it told a bad joke

>>281554750
This is like when Damien told his dad about his Stella. I hope Loid took notice. He can't be a worse uncaring dad than Donovan.

>>281548116
In a one on one fight I expect they'd be even, Loid would probably even the field with extreme cunning and very rapid analysis.

>>281555571
>I doubt a time skip will happen until the show’s popularity drops really low.
I don't see a timeskip happening at all until the epilogue at the earliest.

>>281540059
>Timid teacups
Could be about the Forger family to some varying degrees. It could also be about Yor and Melinda both being timid with their husbands and the teacups referring to either their femininity or it could be about their social connection, such as Melinda doing tea gatherings with her socialite friends. So, it could have broader implications about the greater intrigue at play.
I'm not super committed to any of this, but I thought I'd share it in case any of it wound up being useful.

>>281547279
>He has a background in neurology, culture, and classical language
So, he could be one of the geniuses behind the project that created Anya as she is, given she also has a propensity for classical language, despute being basically retarded/severely average in everything else (well, by comparison to all the elite kids).

>>281535898
I love Hotaru.

>>281536145
I thought their trip to the river was nice.

>>281556056
>despute being basically retarded/severely average in everything else (well, by comparison to all the elite kids).
All the elite kids that are also older than her. Anya is one to two years younger than all her classmates. At that age, that's a huge difference in brain development. She doesn't have a prayer.

>>281556127
The seal chapter? So did most people.
It's probably the most talked about chapter atm over in moonland. Probably because chapters like that are a rarity because Axeman is pretty fucking dumb.

>>281551402
I mean, it IS setting up for the idea that he can actually read minds but the sheer amount of duplicity surrounding him alienated him from everyone else. At least two members of his family sort of picked up on his mind-reading and developed different responses, and his distancing from Desmond is his attempt at sparing him from the same fate

>>281542419
I really appreciate that about him. They aren't blurred-faced blobs like in 90% of manga, these days. But, as you said, he goes even beyond just that and makes them actual characters and not just to kill off or bloat the cast with (like with Bleach).

>>281556149
M114 also has a surprisingly high amount of comments. Readers just want to see the family bonding with one another.

>>281551402
There's always a half-truth to the rumors that the characters spread in the manga. He might not be an alien, but the esper stuff is becoming more likely.

>>281556691
>Hangs out with Alistair Crowley

>>281556149
Technically 94 still has the most comments on Jump+, though it's another family chapter so your point stands. 103 is currently in third place, though it will take second within a month at the rate it's going. Currently the ranking is
>1. Chapter 94 (Family ski trip)
>2. Chapter 96 (Eden Gala; Anya "identity reveal")
>3. Chapter 103 (Family outing to see Belle)
>4. Chapter 114 (Yor and Yuri outing)
>5. Chapter 120 (Yor feelings realization)
The only one in here that isn't at least family adjacent contains an identity reveal. However that chapter may look in hindsight, comments at the time took it as a legit identity reveal. Chapters 94 and 96 also had six week breaks between them and the next regular chapter, which seems to have contributed to their insane numbers, though they would've been high even without those based on their first day and first two week numbers. Just maybe not that high.

>>281542067
They were suspected of being important since they were first introduced. Axeman doesn't name characters if he doesn't have to, so them having full names put people on alert. Same with how Chloe got a name and people quickly latched onto the idea that she'd be showing up more often with Yuri.

>>281556332
Yuri bringing up a trip to Nielsberg was such a tease. I kind of hope that when we do get Yor's backstory, it's triggered by her being back in her hometown due to taking her family there. Sandwich the tragedy between cute family moments.

>>281556853
I definitely remember people spamming the comments section on 94 when Axeman took another surprise break, especially because there were some foreigners who tried warning them about it in advance. That was when they realized that foreign publishers get a heads up before they do and they complained that the editorial team didn't update the app or site when they knew it was delayed. And after that is when Axeman started getting better about informing people of his breaks, since he let people know about his London trip and whether or not there were short chapters planned for the coming update.
The most invested readers seem to really care about the family and shipping, so a lot of recent comments on those chapters reflect that, too. The Yuri and Yor chapter comments also tend to mention Chloe a lot even though she was barely in it, though a lot of early comments I remember being scathing towards Yuri's immaturity for some reason.

>>281545771
Arnold is funnier.

>>281553911
>Yor tells Loid he should be the person that motivates Anya to do well
>Anya realizes that her knowledge could help Twilight the way Yuri studied to help Yor
>Sigmund teaches Anya better when she enjoys the process of learning for knowledge's sake
I really like continuing the idea that Anya only lacks the motivation to do well, but it feels like Twilight keeps needing to get beat over the head with it. She didn't even fail any of her midterms when she had to study on her own after both he and Yuri walked out on her. I don't think it's a huge leap for him to think that Anya might want to do well because it would make her adopted father happy.

>>281557906
Pretty good wordplay. I wonder what the original said.

>>281558205
It was literally knowledge is power, 知は力 (chi wa chikara). Anya misheard the first part as chihuahua and it stuck.

>>281535328
>Yor focused chapter
>Suddenly the plot starts moving forward

>>281556250
I wonder how much he believed his own arguments. Being able to pry into people's private thoughts doesn't create understanding at all, Anya is proof of that. But not letting his family understand him is also what created the strained relationships, and that's still consistent with what Axeman's portrayed with every single character so far.

>>281547139
low-level private enterprise was historically not an issue in socialist countries, take for example the NEP under Lenin. there's a big difference between a dress shop and owning the entire petrochemical industry

>>281540333
I wonder who he's putting on the cover. Before I would've said Melinda, but now I'm thinking it might be McMahon or Hemlock since it looks like we're getting more of her again.

>>281558695
I'm surprised the go-to example for that quote wasn't Blackbell Industries. I feel like their existence pokes a hole in the idea that Ostania is a communist country since there's no indication that it's not their family's own privately-owned, industry-dominating company.

>>281558357
I see, thanks. Good job by the translator.

>>281534261
>>281534334
Yor is cute

>>281535328
Thanks dump anon. Cute Yor chapter

>>281535231
>>281535277
I genuinely feel bad that Melinda's relationship with Yor is being used to feed private intel directly to Twilight. Melinda even calls him her doctor. It feels terrible.

>>281556260
He's also really good at making characters look visibly related to each other. Melinda and Damian was a good reveal given the span of time it took between their appearances, but even here Arnold's dad clearly looks like an older version of him.

>>281559432
seems like Loid was still trying to legitimately help her just with a major breach of ethics. it is shitty.

>>281559809
He might pity her, but his goal is to pick through information to learn more about her husband, not help her out. Loid's ability to dig into her secrets reminded her of the way Donovan is able to see through her, which is why she was too scared to go to the next appointment. That invasive feeling they both have is why she's more comfortable talking with Yor, who just accepts her without trying to pry.

>>281533752
No Aliens No hype.
We demand aliens!

>>281558814
I'm pretty confident it'll be Melinda in a occult-y throne chair

>>281539929
Shopkeeper seemed extremely picky with the jobs he lets Garden take on though. Twilight getting so close to Yor could be reason enough to take him out, but Yor being so obviously in love with him makes it less likely she'd get the job. It's also not clear how much separation there is between the PM and Garden since even the SSS gets only restricted access to them. It might not matter depending on how much knowledge Donovan was able to gain in his stint as PM, but that seems like the kind of thing where a couple of factors have to fall into place before he's able to make that request.

>>281560184
I haven't been looking at the mid-century modern chairs lately, but I feel like Axeman picks out the chair as part of the initial character design. I remember feeling like the Egg Chair or Womb Chair would fit Melinda.

>>281535705
>unironically

>>281561308
It occurs to me with this operation touching all these high echelons of society he can't extract from this one, he'll be recognized too often on future jobs if he tries to put together a new identity, and he can't very well be known as the man that abandoned his family, the family will have to stay together forever.

>>281561355
Loid uses his real face for a lot of missions, just changing his hair. There haven't been any repercussions so far. This looks like something you're supposed to suspend disbelief on, but maybe we'll eventually have someone recognize Robert, Roland, or Twain.

>>281535073
>me when I start shitposting in a thread for no reason

I miss the peanut.

>>281545753
>Roshambo of crows is odd, but saying roshambo itself implies that some point of contention was decided by something silly.
A roshambo is a game of rock-paper-scissors. It doesn't necessarily denote something silly unless you take it literally. In fact, rock-paper-scissors is generally just used to illustrate a competition in which everyone is equally advantaged and disadvantaged. Elemental rock-paper-scissors is a common use case. Water beats Fire, which beats Grass, which beats Water.
This is also worded in such a way that the crows can be performing the roshambo or they can be the roshambo. (The rock, paper, and scissors themselves.) The former is an even match. The latter is not even, but there's no clear favorite.
It's probably some kind of fight, but whether it's strictly physical or more abstract is up in the air.

>>281561491
Really a more likely issue is too long in one identity while touching so many high society figures he abandons the family there's gonna be investigations

>>281558814
I'd guess Hemlock. Martha got the cover when she had her arc. This most recent arc was just as much Hemlock's as it was Yor's.

>>281535328
Loid fucked up background checking the old couple.

>>281535423
>Melinda must legitimately have no real friends to be this defensive of Yor.
Well Yor is not part of high society and wasn't brought to her to be part of her circle.
That makes Melinda drop her guard around her, because she does not perceive her as a placed mole.

Imagine Yors next bodyguard job ending up being Melinda.
That would be a major reveal.

>>281539929
I wonder if Melinda knows about Garden too? I think it would be interesting if she did and eventually pieced things together. She's got some self preservation instincts and finding out she's been hanging out with an assassin should send them into overdrive. However, she's not normal about Yor. Maybe finding out that Yor really does have something that she has to hide just as much as Melinda does would make her feel even more like a kindred spirit.

>>281563378
>Imagine Yor’s next bodyguard job ending up being Melinda
>That would be a major reveal
A wonderful idea that Axeman will sadly never use.

>>281538989
Plan Strix Theta
Once Anya gives birth to Damians forth child and their first child announces the engagement to Becky's first child, while Loid and Yor's second child announces its first pregnancy Loid will be able to pull out of his Forger disguise and leave.
This time for sure.

Handler says: No, we need to get closer, your daughter being married to current prime minister and party leader is not enough.
Also in this declining birth rate you really have to do your part with Yor.

She ends up handing him a plaque that says "you are here forever"

>>281560335
>It's also not clear how much separation there is between the PM and Garden since even the SSS gets only restricted access to them.
I think there was probably less separation between Desmond and Shopkeeper than most as Shopkeeper seems to have very strong opinions on him.

Sure Garden of Eden, I get it, but why?

>>281563301
There's a 50/50 chance Donovan had a hand in their move after meeting with Loid. Melinda being on speaking terms with them says a lot about how deep they were in their circle.>>281563378

>>281562295
Given the circumstances I've always assumed Strix is going to be his last big act.

What the hell, I'll give my spin on these omen:
>rustling forest
Callback to the fight Yor and Hemlock had during the poachers arc. While everything appears still, changes are brewing.
>smoke
Deceit. Most of the characters are trying to hide something from other people.
>a room with drawn curtains
Tied together with smoke, it means secrecy. Yor, just like Loid and Anya to some extent, must keep her affiliations secret.
>timid teacups
Most unclear one to me. It makes me think of lovers slowly getting to know each other. Tea parties once were the standard first meetup for young upperclass couples.
>roshambo of crows
Many factions are currently facing each other (wise, sss, garden) but none has got the upper hand. No clear winner or loser.
>A headache hurts
Overthinking. But also maybe Anya? Considering she sometimes gets overstimulated when many people are thinking at the same time.
>red blizzard
Bloodshed. Violence and war may be close.

>>281563880
I've always thought this reaction was more about the situation rather than any inside knowledge on Desmond.
>random psychiatrist no one has ever heard of marries my best operative
>he then gets into the most exclusive school in the country (that you coincidentally need a traditional nuclear family to have any shot of attending)
>where he then manages to meet the most reculsive and well protected political figure in the country and tries to get on his goodside by both knowing about and claiming sympathy towards his polarizing political party
>all in the span of like a week

>>281566106
Considering Yor was part of it I think it's specifically referring to her future.
>the forest
The situation is changing around Yor, her situation is becoming unstable
>Smoke
Agreeing with the decit/secrecy thing here but could also mean confusion
>The room with curtains
Secret meeting, individuals making a decision behind closed doors that impacts Yors life
>timid teacups
Yor and Twilights relationship either progressing or straining under the shadow of their responsibilities
>the crows
Assassin's, likely the garden itself
>a headache hurts
Yor is forced into a situation where she must make a painful choice
>red blizzard
No matter what Yor specifically is going to have to kill a lot of people

>>281566842
If you think about it, the first part sounds like it is about her prior mission in the forest.

>>281566842
Also interesting read on that
I think it's cool we all have our explanations to very generic ideas/prompts

>>281567224
Looking through Japanese reactions, the only consensus is that the "rustling forest" makes them think of Garden. The others all have more varied opinions that they associated the words with, a lot of them similar to the ones that people posted here.

More Anya and Grandpa Siggy

>>281567606
It's interesting to see people's opinions on which are literal and which are symbolic. Most of them must be symbolic, but I think the first three could potentially be literal. As other anons have said, Yor just came from a rustling forest, and it's very likely she'll be going back as Shopkeeper said this was going to take multiple runs. Though that could also be a red herring and this forest is referring to the one surrounding Nielsberg. We know Garden had some kind of presence there and 114 gave the vague impression that Yor is reluctant to go back.

>>281568447
That is the thing I find funny.
Some people really think Yor became so strong through her upbringing, but that is wrong.
She already had her strength, speed, damage resistance, poison resistance and healing from the get go.
She is not poison resistant, because she ate her bad food, if so Yuri would be too, but he isn't.
She is like Mio from Moonlit Fantasy, her food is bad, because she is poison resistant.

>>281568837
>She already had her strength, speed, damage resistance, poison resistance and healing from the get go.
No she did not. She had above average strength seemingly from birth, but her durability and speed were both average. As an adult, she can outrun cars. As a child, she could not outrun bees.
Garden is likely doing something to them based on dialogue from Yor and McMahon. As for how she was born with her strength, it may have been inherited from her mother who seems like she may have also been a Garden assassin.

Axeman better give us an epilogue with Loid and Yor as old people

>>281568066
He probably stuck wires in her head, anon.

Every time I'm reminded that Anya and Bond were experiments I get flashbacks of that cartoon bat that was brutally tortured.
Though Bond probably got the worst of it.

So will this be an arc or a one-off?

>>281558445
Good point, Anya will need to be the one to be open about her power to contrast with Donovan.

>>281570418
Short arc, probably. More like term finals or term break than the mole or Garden arcs. Hopefully the visit to the Authens is a family chapter.

>>281567224
Omens are usually about the future, not the past.

>>281563880
Shopkeeper is more of a mystery than the Desmonds at this stage, I wonder will he be fleshed out without detracting too much from the main story.

>>281570753
I don't think I'd say he's not part of the main story. He's currently the strongest link to the Mitera empire and one of three main antagonists. I assume that as we learn more about Garden/Shopkeeper, we'll learn more about the empire and vice versa.

>>281571991
Kek. I wonder if Loid is embarrassed to tell Handler that his wife is doing his job for him.

>>281535073
I don't doubt the forest is meant to link back to the poacher arc, but I can't imagine it's only that literal. Given the focus on Garden in that arc and the imagery of a forest, I think it's meant to represent Garden as well. Something is "rustling" the forest, i.e. it's not still, which I would take to mean something unseen is disturbing it. Maybe there's some discontent going on in Garden? Could just be Hemlock not being happy with Yor, but maybe he's not the only one dissatisfied? Or could it be the SSS trying to get Garden to take on their jobs and not leave them to their "proper" business?

>>281560055
>donovan obviously knows about this
>doesn’t lead her to quit
why?

>>281573031
I think it might have to do with Yor's doubling down on her secrets and wanting to be a little selfish and keep her place in the Forger family. Yor doesn't want to have to choose between her job and her new family even though the cruise arc and elk arc had McMahon warning her that she needed to end it if she had any doubts. She's also supposed to be loyal to Garden over everything else, but her willingness to fight Hemlock to the death for her family shows where her feelings lie. She's been able to keep both so far, but I wonder how long that will last.

>>281573192
No harm in letting his wife keep her kooky habits so long as it keeps her sane.

>>281573031
I wonder what Hemlock and Yor's relationship is like now? It seems like she beat most of the hostility out of him.

>>281535073
>seven visions
>all ambiguous and hard to interpret due to noise
>only thing diviner is sure on is that they're all bad
At least fate is consistent in giving these characters shitty lives.

>>281574041
He still seemed rather bitter toward her when he delivered the salve.

>>281566362
That could be part of it, but the flow of the conversation makes me question if that's really all.
>If anything were to happen, then of course...
>for that reason, I wouldn't exactly recommend it.
I have no clue what this is even supposed to mean, but Yor is intensely wigged out by it. It feels like Shopkeeper is expecting something unfavorable out of the Desmonds.
Then the death glare at the end? It's not in response to Loid meeting Desmond. He keeps snipping away until Yor says Loid was interested in the NUP. Then he stops, turns around, and glares at her.

>>281566362
>>281575713
Also, Shopkeeper should know all that happened over a couple months, not a week, and that Anya had passed the test to get the interview for Eden before Loid had even met Yor.

I need a reminder. Shopkeeper doesn't know the full details of Yor's marriage does he? Only WISE and Yor herself know about the details of the marriage?

She asked to get married to avoid SSS suspicion and Shopkeeper allowed it as long as it doesnt interfere with her work.
But we are supposed to assume that he believes that Yor found someone she fell in love with and the SSS suspicion is the bonus, right? Or vice versa.

Like he is not aware of the whole fake marriage for Eden deal they have going on, and with how Yor talks about them he has no reason to believe that she doesn't actually love them.

>>281576253
Shopkeeper is worried that Loid might be a Nazi

>>281576253
>But we are supposed to assume that he believes that Yor found someone she fell in love with and the SSS suspicion is the bonus, right? Or vice versa.

In the Cruise arc Shaty assumed that Yor's family was just for camouflage and that she didn't actually care that much about them. I assumed that is what Garden told her about her bodyguard, i.e. that she didn't marry for love.

More directly, in chapter 116 when Hemlock brings up her marriage Yor maintains she only married to continue her work, so that must be what she told Shopkeeper as well.

>>281576253
As the other anon said, Olka knows they're for cover, which she must've been told by Shopkeeper. She wouldn't have just assumed considering she's underworld herself and she had a real family. McMahon had a real wife too.
McMahon also tells her that Loid would be informed that she had a work transfer if she were to be killed or maimed. For him and Shopkeeper to think that would be acceptable to him, they must think the relationship is purely business.
>Like he is not aware of the whole fake marriage for Eden deal they have going on
This has never been specifically addressed, but it doesn't seem like Yor keeps anything from Shopkeeper. It's probably only a matter of time until she admits to him she's in love with Loid. I doubt he'll be happy about that.

>>281573031
>Maybe there's some discontent going on in Garden? Could just be Hemlock not being happy with Yor, but maybe he's not the only one dissatisfied?
I think it's more likely Shopkeeper than Hemlock. There's been noticeable friction between him and Yor for a while. He seems to know she's compromised and is monitoring the seriousness of it.

>>281571147
The what empire? I thought this was westalis & ostania.

>>281578190
A civilization that came before Ostania. First mentioned in chapter 104 I think. Fans theorize this is the empire that formed Garden (which has been around for centuries) and to which Shopkeeper is still loyal to.

Note the sacred elk are referred to as Miteran elk.

>>281574997
>I think this character should die

>>281576253
Shopkeeper knows that her marriage is a sham. She asked for permission and it sounds like she told him what their agreement was: Yor would have a cover to avoid suspicion from the SSS as a single woman, and Loid would have a mother figure so that Anya could enter Eden and fulfill his wife's dying wish. She probably didn't mention the grenade.
But it's because they're supposed to be a sham that he and other Garden associates get uneasy when Yor speaks about her fake family. Everyone can tell that she cares about them beyond their usefulness as a cover identity so they keep doubting whether she can continue being an assassin.

>>281578435
Back to your cage with you

>>281578190
The empire that had imperial scholars.

chapter 240 loid will confess almost there bros

>>281580235
Loid will realize her loves her in chapter 240, but he wont confess until the end of the series where he proposes for real and they redo the grenade proposal while saving Anya.
I don't like it, but that's how it's gonna go.

>>281580235
Two more weeks

>>281572502
He was the one who kept downplaying it whenever it came up so probably. Over fifty chapters later and Loid's only reason for being so stubbornly retarded about it was because Axeman wanted to stall as long as possible.

I miss Henderson

Finally found out why McMahon looked so familiar. I didn't even watch this anime.

>>281536787
This book has always been about original sin. Loid is the perfect man made to serve wise (which both has the symbol of providence and is a synonym of it) yor exists to serve garden and has never had any desires of her own. Anya is the apple that leads them to have desires outside their agencies.

>>281534462
You know I never considered the possibility of a psychologist being a spy but man what a perfect job for a spy.

>>281541150
There are only two kind of persons in this world:
People who love Yor
And people who are jealous of Yor for seeing themselves as inferior

>>281578465
The retcon of the SSS collaborating with Garden is completely retarded for multiple reasons, not least of which is how it should have completely negated Yor's initial need to find a partner.

Any theories on what the connection is between Yor and Shopkeeper that doesn't extend to the rest of Garden? Upon closer examination, the emblems aren't the exact same (Yor's have two rings while Shopkeeper's only have one), but they're so close that they still feel related.

>>281584424
>not least of which is how it should have completely negated Yor's initial need to find a partner.

It does not though. It's implied the SSS don't know who is in Garden aside from Shopkeeper (note how the SSS director remarks that he has the impression they have enough for a sports team, but he's evidently not sure). And that Shopkeeper could intervene afterward if Yor got arrested wouldn't change that she could still get arrested and all the problems that come with it. Likewise it is unclear if Shopkeeper knows Yuri is in the SSS (Yuri being a member negated Yor's need to find a partner from the very start).

>>281584424
Multiple conflicting intelligence agencies serving the same cause.

>>281534395
>It's called doctor-patient confidentiality
kek

>>281584533
I have my suspicions that Wilker at least suspects Yor. Yuri's recruitment is noted by his cohorts to be strange enough that they asked their boss about it. He completely dodged the question.
We've seen and Axeman has further confirmed that Yor leaves witnesses sometimes. If the SSS is onto her, I could see Yuri being blackmail material.

>>281584533
Yeah, McMahon and Shopkeeper know they could get Wilker to SHUT IT DOWN before Yor even arrived at the SSS station, even if they're unaware Yuri would prevent things from ever reaching that point.
The issue is that start-of-series Yor had deep concerns about being imprisoned (and losing her contract killing job to support Yuri) because of her conspicuous single-ness, which doesn't make sense with the only much later established presence of McMahon and the SSS-Garden official ties.

>>281585021
Wilker being that savvy would be cool, but I think it's pretty well established that Garden has no problem eliminating their own when they've lost their usefulness and that Wilker completely understands how much a psychopath Shopkeeper is.

> Wilker: you know we have Yor's only brother under our thumb, don't mess with us
> Shopkeeper: lmao

>>281585102
That assumes Yor is aware of these ties and believes that would protect her.

One thing to keep in mind is that Shopkeeper is a big believer in repaying debts. If he did have to ask the SSS a favor by having them release Yor, he'd then be indebted to them and potentially have to have Garden do a job they would normally not do. So perhaps, even if Yor is aware of the SSS knowing about Garden, she does not think Shopkeeper would protect her from them (or alternatively does not want to have him have to make that choice).

I do hope it is clarified at some point.

>>281571991
Until eventually Anya shows up and just turns the train on

>>281585153
I was thinking the blackmail target would be Yor, not Shopkeeper. It would probably be nice to have somebody that can't refuse jobs. Unlike Garden, the SSS seems very politically motivated. Even if they can only use her for one or two high-profile political enemies before Shopkeeper has her eliminated, that may be worth it to them. Hell, they may even put her to death themselves afterwards to show how competent and valiant they are that they caught and killed this evil assassin wreaking havoc in Ostania.

>>281585710
I just love this picture. Yor's superhuman body would probably exhaust Twilight even if she tried to be completely submissive during it, and even more so if her lustful side got awakened (she does have one, though we've only seen glimpses of it when she's drunk and it gets beaten by her paralyzing fear of sexuality).

>>281585102
There seems to be a very fragile alliance between Garden and the government, and I think it's the government allowing Garden to exist rather than the other way around. One Garden operative is stronger than any ten normal soldiers, but there are a lot more normal soldiers than there are Garden operatives.
If Yor were to get arrested, I don't think Shopkeeper would have the sway to get her out. Nor the interest. He doesn't seem to have real loyalty to any of them.

>>281585978
>If Yor were to get arrested
Yuri would absolutely set her free as soon as he found out

>>281585806
Good edit. Thanks, anon.