Thread 282045528

why are weebs so bad with spoilers. i don't get it.

>>282045528 (OP)
never try to use a meme ever again

Carrying about spoilers is so 2008

If the story is ruined by spoilers, it's not a good story.

You're (you are) own fault for choosing to consume secondary material and then go into primary material consumer territory.

Anime is made for the manga readers. We supported the series and made it popular enough to be worth making an anime out of.

If you want to avoid spoilers just stay off the internet. But you should really just read the manga.

>>282045528 (OP)
It's not a spoiler if it has officially been released silly. Things like gooks stealing a WSJ magazine days before release and upload some pages on twitter are spoilers.

>manga
Demo version
>anime
Full, intended release

>>282045528 (OP)
Spoilers don't really matter anymore. In fact, people kind of like them. Worried a romcom is gonna fall on the "won't they" side? Spoilers to the rescue! Turns out they DO fuck! Now you can waste time on 100s of chapters because there is a confirmed payoff. Oh, it's actually NTR shit? Dropped before touching it, massive time savings.

As long as you appreciate the journey, knowing the destination is just a bonus.

>>282045680
The only genre that technically needs spoiler protection is the crime mystery genre for "who done it". Because knowing who did it changes the journey. Everything else is generally unaffected.

the funniest thing is that /a/ lowkey failed to spoil aot for me. everyone kept spamming eren crying saying how he backed down at the last second but turns out that /a/ misunderstood that in that scene it was premonition eren and not post rumbling eren. and i was thinking bros thanks for being so retarded you can't even spoil shit.

>>282045867
I wish this was true, life would be easier.

>>282045739
>We supported the series
unironically i would respect that if it meant that you ACTUALLY bought the manga. let's be honest you mean the read the weekly leaks. which is obviously no support at all.

>>282045680
getting surprised by a massive plot twist is amazing though

>>282045867
>

>>282045528 (OP)
>>282045867
>>>/r/eddit

>>282045948
I still don't know how AoT ended. You might have just spoiled it and I'll never know because my eyes glaze over whenever the topic comes up. To me AoT might as well have ended when they first encounter Monkey Trouble because that's the last thing I remember.

the worst thing about spoilers is that you realize you share an interest with total retards who don't respect it.

>>282045528 (OP)
just dont read them

>>282045680
Once One Piece is revealed, you are going to see that shit on everywhere.

>>282045528 (OP)
They saw it first and now they are God who has all the answers, everyone who has not seen it is a filthy lowly creature and those plebians need to hear about it from God himself

>>282045528 (OP)
OP is 100% thirdworld ESL scum

>>282047524
This, you've already proven that you can't read by being an anime-only to begin with, so just don't read the spoilers

There's a whole internet you could be on that has some kind of spoiler enforcement besides one unpaid janny trying to delete gore spam from infinite phone IPs

>>282045528 (OP)
Fuck anime onlies and fuck you

>>282045528 (OP)
yall missed out on fansubs.
and communities from it.

is there anything similar to that now days?
discord I suppose.

Spike dies.

Animefags have a victim complex thinking people talking about the manga is spoiling it for them when it's their fault for refusing to be current with the story.

LN = project proposal
Manga = draft storyboard
Anime = the product
>But I have to know how it turns out RIGHT NOW!
lol

>>282045528 (OP)
>start watching older series
>it's great, want to discuss it on /a/ but there may only be one thread per every few months at most and nothing is in the catalog
>search the archive for OPs that mention the title
>every single post I see: hey guys what was your reaction to episode 11 (or chapter 35 in the manga) at exactly 17:44 into the episode when it was revealed that the MC was actually dead the entire time and he was a ghost and when the kid said "I see dead people" he was also including Bruce Willis-senpai

Most recently I got kill la kill's twist spoiled for me by the archive. I get it: the statue of limitations on being mad about spoilers is at most 1 or 2 years after the air date, so really I can't complain too much, but still, why the fuck do you dicks feel the need to spoil the dogshit out of something in the OP? At least use spoiler tags you fucking faggots.

>>282045948
>Anime only is retarded
Yep yep all makes sense to me

>>282049226
>Reading archives of threads instead of just finishing it and making a thread
You are so mind bendingly stupid I cannot even begin to organize my thoughts on how retarded you are

>>282047589
As soon as it is revealed people are going to be like "everyone knew that you lack media literacy". It's like how the One Piece threads call any theory [headcanon] no matter how much weight is behind them like Luffy being the sun god. Then either call asspull or pretend everyone knew that and theorists weren't special for figuring it out.

>>282045528 (OP)
Why do animefags think fans who have been following a manga for years should have to censor themselves for people who are jumping on the bandwagon?

>>282049400
I noticed this line of thinking became far more prevalent once 3rdies and normalfags started getting into anime more. It's just normalfags being narcissistic homosexuals

>>282049328
Yeah, it's almost like some people enjoy talking about the media they consume and want to discuss it with like minded individuals. Fuck them right? Their fault for trying to engage in conversation, clearly that's on them

>>282049465
You aren't talking to anyone in the archives you knuckle dragging troglodyte. You are reading post discussing a series and all released material is fair fucking game. Yes it is expected you have read/watched up to that point before discussing it if you care about spoilers

>reading manga
>get spoiled by LN readers for a volume that will probably never be adapted

>>282049465
>Fuck them right? Their fault for trying to engage in conversation, clearly that's on them
Literally unironcially yes. If you cry about spoilers while not being up to date you are being a whiny cunt

>>282049214
Manga is the final product, anime is just a commercial.

>>282049755
manga is just a commercial for the merchandise, which is the actual product

>>282045528 (OP)
If you actually cared about the story, you wouldn't consume secondary material exclusively and willingly choose not to consume more of the story when you know it's out there.

>>282049502
most of your problems in life directly stem from how you don't treat anyone with respect. Good day.

>>282050524
Midwit take uttered by someone not intellectually capable of comprehending that the nuances of audio visual art add more emotional substance to a work than some shitty comic could ever dream of having. To manchildren such as yourself story is merely "paper deep".

>>282045528 (OP)
This depends on the fanbase tho.
I don't see muvluvfags spoiling the VN left and right.

>>282050685
They sure as fuck want to talk about PTSD and CHOMP. But then they do lean into talking about Japanese nationalism more.

>>282048953
At his computer.

>>282050625
Enjoy being nine months behind, retard. We won't cater to you.

>>282045867
>Full, intended release
That never gets finished.

>>282045528 (OP)
Never cared about spoilers. Plot is irrelevant anyway, it is presentation that matters and you can't really spoil presentation.

>>282051786
>dude who care about the words and shit I only read books for the pretty pictures

>>282045528 (OP)
Mangafags are fine. The problem are the people who after the first episode rush to read all available content just to act smug and post on threads bragging about how they know what will happen. Those are the real pricks.

>>282051824
No, words do matter, but not in a pure information way.

>>282045528 (OP)
Because they're low-IQ animals, and flaunting their source knowledge is their only opportunity to feel smart in life

>>282049356
Wait, One Piece fandom is just like Bleach's?

>>282045867
>Full, intended release
Ah yes, who doesn't like full seasons of pointless filler that never gets referenced once, after it finishes and we go back to manga storyline.
>FuLl IntEndED rElEaSE.

>>282051844
>Mangafags are fine
>change the angle of a scene
>they bitch about it in every single thread

>>282052328
And they're 99% of the time absolutely right and it is a sign of further fuck ups to come!

>>282045680
Are you dumb? Spoiler are worse FOR a good story. Murder mystery, for example. Twist villain? Betrayal?

>>282052463
No, they're fucking not.
Recently the amount of manganegroes who complain about the anime not following the manga have skyrocketed, but then you look at the manga and it's a fucking adaptation that changed things from a LN. Then the fucking hypocrites cry about the anime following the LN more closely and not their stupid fanfiction.

>>282045528 (OP)
Everyone's bad with spoilers these days. I don't know what happened.

>>282045680
This is the most retarded post I've seen today. Good job

>>282045528 (OP)
one of the prominent signs of autism is not understanding that other people have different knowledge. if an autist knows a spoiler, they can't comprehend that other people might not have known about it yet.

I can feel the internet get more brown as the years go by. Yes if you go into a thread of an ongoing anime there is a social expectation to use spoiler tags for shit that hasn't happened yet. If an anime has been done for a couple of months its on you go clicking on that fucking thread and reading it. And holy fuck if it is far game to discuss that fucking episode and earlier without a spoiler tag. Why the fuck are you in a thread if you care about spoilers?

>>282045528 (OP)
Anime is a particularly bad medium for spoilers because of a combination of several factors.

One, most anime are adaptations of other stories. Manga, LNs, games, etc. There's very few original anime stories being made, so odds are whenever you start watching a new show, the story it's following is probably already several months if not years old, possibly even already finished.
Two, at least in the non-Japanese world, most people have to watch anime online, one episode at a time as they get released every week. Having to watch anime in that way at that pace naturally leads people to want to seek out online communities to discuss each episode after they watch it each week, which will unfortunately lead them into the same discussion spaces as fans of the original story. Speaking of which...
Three, fans of the original story. Odds are, lots of the people watching the anime version of a story will be fans of the original story. They want to discuss the adaptation too, but they already know the story so odds are they're going to mention things that haven't happened in the anime yet. They aren't deliberately trying to spoil things for anime-onlys, they just aren't thinking about them. That said, plenty of original manga/LN/whatever story fans are spiteful, petty elitists who look down on people who only get into the series because of the anime, and so spoil people on purpose to try and ruin their enjoyment of the story as punishment for not already being fans of it's source material. It seems odd to me to like a story, but want to ruin as many other peoples ability to enjoy it as possible, but well these people became friendless recluses on the internet obsessed with manga and LNs for a reason.

I remember spoilerfags were intentionally trying to ruin Tengoku Daimakyou for everyone while it was airing.

>>282048776
>Fuck anime onlies and fuck you
you third world monkey reading leaks is not reading manga. that's the problem. the manga comes out months after the chapters. absolute pests spam deaths out of shire spit the second the chapter leaks. im not the biggest tough guy but unironically its the only time i would unironically through hands at someone. i wish cancer upon your kids. not you. your kids. and you mother. amen.

>>282055390
Pretty sure those were people who disliked the series and wiki warriored just to spoil it to shit on it

>>282055412
>Pretty sure those were people who disliked the series
lol are you new here? half of /a/ is lifeless cunts who hate post on shit they dislike. lowkey it gives me pleasure knowing they are third world favela monkeys in their 30s with skin the color of shit who live in poverty and misery.

>>282055512
I am aware and more evidence of my conclusion being correct. Pretty sure when people are being obnoxious about spoilers it is just fags who hate the series trying to spoil it for others

>>282049226
This has to be the most retarded post I've ever read.

>>282052504
Mysteries excluded, your story being good should not hinge on a twist being spoiled.

>>282055512
>half of
90% of

>>282055245
>for not already being fans of it's source material
odd way of saying malicious fags who spam the leaks the second they leak
>>282045680
>If the story is ruined by spoilers, it's not a good story.
common cope.

>>282052760
Have you tried not reading isekaishit?

Wouldn't it be easier to just assume they're lying and joking? Just say I don't believe and it's not spoiled.

>>282055713
gojo.png

>>282047524
>just dont read them
this aot t-shirt was out before the manga was out in the west.

>>282045680
TRVKE

>>282045680
They hate you because you speak the truth
Nip writers are especially notorious for relying on massive twists to keep an otherwise unengaging story. The best anime are still highly enjoyable even when you've been spoiled, meanwhile most fotm bs that gets heads turning with a twist gets forgotten quickly

>>282056125
>They hate you because you speak the truth
that's andrew tate "im too smart for books" levels of bullshit
>Nip writers are especially notorious
HAVE YOU EVER. READ BOOKS. NIGGA

>>282049226
You should have checked the archive of when the show was still airing if its not too old.

>>282055870
>out in the west
official cattle are... well cattle

>>282056570
that would require an extra filter and searching when an episode came out he can't possibly be expected to search "before date of episode I am currently at air date"

>>282045680
>>282056025
This, but the 100% polar opposite of whatever dumb faggoty shit you think

>>282056212
It applies to books too, zoom zoom

>>282045867
You mean like when an anime cuts out parts of the manga because they have to fit a TV schedule time slot?

If you're retarded enough to care about spoilers but still willingly browsing discussion of a show you have no one to blane but yourself

>>282056875
>NYOOO YOU MUST CATER TO ME DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM

There really is a large concentration of mentally ill people on /a/.
Not understanding other peoples feelings
Raping toddlers
Maliciously spamming spoilers to feel powerful.
Its all the same thing.

The only weird thing is mods facilitating it.

>>282056745
If some wizard looked in a crystal ball and told you about the most important event that will happen to you, hence 'spoiling' your life, would you consider your life 'ruined'? If I sent that wizard to your house right now, would you no longer think your life is 'good' and probably kill yourself? I wish I could, that would be pretty funny

>>282056922
kek

>>282051786
Based
Anime is all about presentation. Who the fuck watches anime for a good plot? Plotfags are retarded

>>282052504
As he said, revealing twist villains and betrayals damages mystery stories because they are shit
If they want to do that simply make a pure fiction story and not something pretending to have logic and real stakes

>>282045528 (OP)
caring about spoilers is reddior behavior
the story of christ is still compelling even though everyone knows the "twist"

>>282056742
Yes he can, the archives literally allow you to search by date.

>>282057188
thats the joke retard

>>282057122
You've never read one page of the bible what's the point of such a stupid larp?

>>282056746
>It applies to books too, zoom zoom
no it doesn't illiterate larping nigger. don't pretend you read

>>282056699
>official cattle are... well cattle
what does that even mean, read the leaks? above some anon said:
>>282045739
>Anime is made for the manga readers. We supported the series
how do you support a manga by reading leaks.

I remember the Void Stranger threads on /v/, they were really good about blacking out spoilers and that game has a lot of them. Black Souls threads on /vrpg/ are also really good about hiding spoilers about their plot-with-porn RPG maker game. Nowadays I've had to unsub from anyone playing games I want to play because I've had major things spoiled for me. And yes, Aerith's fate in Final Fantasy R series IS a spoiler because of the nature of the plot.

I also refuse to watch the opening movies in any hentai games because of how many major plot points (including one that didn't get resolved until the LAST game in the series) were spoiled in Sengoku Rance.

>>282057369
Yes it does. Using ad-hominems doesn't make you correct zoom zoom, learn how to argue about things properly. I hope you grow up soon

>>282057410
>how do you support a manga by reading leaks.
He obviously doesn't support, he's just the typical entitled gaijin retard. Ironically, they're always the most autistic about adaptations changing little details while the primary japanese audience rarely complains as much

>>282057369
Did you forget how people made a big deal about spoilers in Game of Thrones?

>>282045528 (OP)
>why are weebs so bad with spoilers
the majority are autistic, hope this helps

>>282045528 (OP)
Japan by and large gives almost no fucks about spoilers including them in previews, ops, and openly discussing them. Why would weebs (wannabe japs)?

Spoilers have hurt my enjoyment of many shows here, but it's just how it is if you want to discuss on /a/.
Start watching anime originals. Turkey, Necronomico, Onmyo Kaiten this season have had fun twists and turns that many people could predict, but nobody could spoil.

>>282056922
>There really is a large concentration of mentally ill people on /a/.
there's only 5 people on /a/ at max.

ITT: animeonlies being entitled as fuck, more news at 11.

>>282045722
100% this.

>>282045739
>>282045989
I read the novel chapters released for free by the author on sites like syosetu and kakuyomu. Most times the manga fails to catch up to those.

>>282052760
It baffles me to no end that so many people on /a/ think all manga are adaptations from LNs. This really shows the kind of garbage so many people willingly watch. And somehow it's supposed to be a gotcha in these threads.

>>282054781
Yes, I can't comprehend that there are people who willingly wait for some hack anime director to butcher something before becoming aware that it exists.

>turbo-autistic mangacels can't comprehend that someone isn't reading everything at the exact same time as them so they insist on sperging out
Every time

>>282057410
>muh leaks
other than one piss what gets leaks these days?

>>282045680
The disdain for spoilers is not about "ruining" a story. It's about the wish of the reader/watcher to engage with the story on its own terms, to let it present new information at the pace as chosen by the author, rather than to have faggots come barging in who want to rob you of that experience.

>>282057502
>And yes (spoiler) is a spoiler
>Doesn't spoiler it
The absolute fucking irony lol. Also black souls deserves to be spoiled to save people 7 hours of ~4 minutes of mild entertainment

>>282059188
Everyone knows Aerith dies in FF7, it's gaming's "it was his sled", whenever it happens or not in FF7R is the spoiler and a major driving force of the plot and I didn't say IF she lives or dies

CONSESSIONS THAT SHOULD BE MADE
>for ongoing manga series with an anime announcement spoiler tags are not required since if you are discussing it you should be caught up
>for an active adaptation manga spoilers should be spoilered (this is also a rule but it rarely gets enforced)
>if you cry aboutu spoilers that already happened but you just aren't caught up the fault is yours for clicking on the thread
>spoilers in OPs/youtube thumbnails/fucking articles that get pushed to my phone despite constantly telling my phone to not do that are nigger tier
>above also obviously goes for people intentially trying to spoil for the sake of it. snape kills dumbledore level shit admittedly snape kills dumbledore was pretty funny but mostly because how hacky it was done in HP

>>282059369
>it was his sled
I legitimately have no idea what you are talking about

>>282059491
wait yes I do. Ironically enough I knew literally nothing about Citizen Kane before watching it and went in spoiler free

>>282059464
>for an active adaptation manga spoilers should be spoilered (this is also a rule but it rarely gets enforced)
There needs to be an understanding of the type of thread though. If it's a thread specifically for the anime, then sure, but I don't know if most threads specify that. I don't actively try to spoil things but at the same time, it's ridiculous to expect all discussion about a manga to require spoiler tags just because an adaptation is airing. I'm very skeptical that that was the intention of the spoiler tag rule.

>>282059568
>If it's a thread specifically for the anime, then sure, but I don't know if most threads specify that
I concur. Especially if the OP is explicitly a chapter that isn't adapted
>I'm very skeptical that that was the intention of the spoiler tag rule
its not. It became a rule SPECIFICALLY for manga spoiler in anime threads

>>282059464
I don't know what they've shown to secondaries already. I'll just post like normal lol

>>282059882
based

>>282059491
Citizen Kane, go watch it, it's a good movie. It's old but still holds up well.

>>282059994
read literal post after lol. I still never heard that adage until I googled it

>>282045680
It ruins the first, author intended experience with a story. You can say it various from person to person on how much they’ll care, but being told the answers to all the mysteries in a story is a different experience from someone going in blind on a work.

>>282045739
It's unrealistic to read every single manga that gets an anime adaption. This season there's 7 anime where I read it but I'm not going to limit myself to those. And I won't just read up upon series before they air and then drop them once the season is over. Most manga I read will never get an adaption in the first place.

>>282060670
>It ruins the first, author intended experience with a story.
You could apply this to anime adaptations in general. They rarely preserve the overall flow of the story and you're already not experiencing the story in the author's intended way. But people act like anime adaptations are equivalent to their source and it's only spoilers that are impacting anything.

>>282061032
It's also unrealistic to watch every anime. Generally it's faster to just read that manga anyways since an episode is 22 minutes that covers maybe 4 chapters. If you read at a pace slower than a page every 15 seconds than you are illiterate and can't read subs either

>>282045528 (OP)
Zoomers and younger like watching people explain things to them, they don't understand that some people like to experience something.

Also there have just always been people who enjoy ruining surprises for people.

>>282061400
>he thinks zoomers aren't the animefags mad at spoilers but are the people doing the spoilering
>>282061366
This is the kind of post by someone explained in an earlier post that watches the first episode and then goes and binges the manga. This kind of behavior is no different than an animefag.

We really should use spoilers more.

Why the fuck are anime onlies so fucking afraid of spoilers? JUST FUCKING READ IT

>>282061497
Zoomers are the primary audience for retarded "X explained" videos

>>282061497
>See things
>Wow this looks cool
>Read manga
Sometimes it's account announcements sometimes it's cool cover art on a store shelf sometimes it's an anon shilling it to me. Crying about not having time to read manga when anime takes longer is retard

>>282061366
>It's also unrealistic to watch every anime
It's fairly doable with two-three hours of anime per day.
>If you read at a pace slower than a page every 15 seconds than you are illiterate and can't read subs either
If your comparison is with subs then you're full of shit since most manga is untranslated and taking a minute per page isn't bad for somebody with Japanese as a second language.

>>282045580
You sound like a faggot.

>>282062251
If an anime is getting an adaptation it is almost certainly translated

>>282062339
You are full of shit.

>>282045528 (OP)
Just stop being a fucking secondary and read the source material, simple as.

>>282062339
No, it's not uncommon for an anime to be released and localized while the manga it untouched. Ruri no Houseki this season for instance doesn't have a translation for its manga. Gingitsune is a personal example for me where I had tor read the manga in Japanese because despite having an anime adaptation the manga still only has like the first volume or 2 translated. Japanese companies aren't looking at what is translated when they decided what to adapt, despite /a/'s insistence that the US is apparently in charge of what happens with anime adaptations.

>>282062418
If you read translations or volumes you're still a secondary.

>>282062598
>Primary
Read the series as it was serialized in Japanese.
>Secondary
Read the series in Japanese in the volume releases.
>Tertiary
Read fan translations of the series.
>Quaternary
Read the official translation of the series.
>Quinary
Watched the Japanese airing of the series' adaptation.
>Senary
Watched the home release of the anime adaptation in Japanese.
>Septenary
Watched the fan translation of the anime adaptation
>Octonary
Watched the official translation of the anime adaptation
>Nonary
Watched the dub of the anime adaptation

This can be adjusted if the series was a LN first with both a manga and anime adaptation.

>>282062749
Fucking newfags don't even read the manuscript before it's published.

>>282062983
Editors are part of the 0th level.

>>282062749
Going by this, most /a/ mangafags are tertiary or quaternary. Animefags would be septenary or octonary. We need to stop this delusion that EOPs can be primaries or secondaries.

>>282063149
I would wager more people read raws than official translations

>>282063258
Doubt it. Some series only get official translations too. So in that case if people are going to be reading translations that will be what they read. Even series where raws are dumped on here still require a translator to come and translate.

>>282063258
This is pure delusion. Outside of natives, untranslated foreign media is one of the nichest niches. If you were comparing fan-tls to official, then I could believe it.

it's always funny when animeonly faggots whine for being spoiled when the manga is based on was published years ago. I get if its an anime original work but if its a manga just fucking read it

>>282045680
i got spoiled on Paul dying in MT and a lot of other shit. it didnt really diminish my enjoyment of the show.

>>282045528 (OP)
nagisa dies

>>282064108
It obviously depends on the spoiler. Who the fuck cares if Paul dies.

>>282061366
Even simply buying so much manga can get expensive.

>>282065347
You don't have to buy most manga to read them just like you don't have to buy most anime to watch them.

>>282046222
mickey mouse shit

>>282045680
True but only in a reread context. If I can reread the story after reading it once, knowing the twist, and still enjoy it, then it's well written. But spoiling someone reading for the first time is robbing them of their only chance to go through the story blind - you're basically skipping them to the first reread. They'll still be able to enjoy it sure, but you're depriving them of the unique experience of not knowing as they read, something you can only get once

>>282065478
If you want to support them you certainly have to. And for manga, pirate versions are a worse experience.

>>282065881
It depends entirely on the series. Sometimes (especially for older manga) the pirated version is higher quality because whoever physically scanned the files did a better job than whatever they do for the official digital version. And there's more variables depending on if you're reading raw or the translation. I've noticed also that for raws even buying digitally at different stores results in different quality. Same for magazine vs volume. Obviously the physical version is probably usually going to be the best quality but even then, again, especially for older series, sometimes the only available version is bunkouban, which are tiny as hell. I actually bought one of these recently just to see how small they are and it's pretty strange that people would be satisfied with this kind of thing. And many versions of Japanese volumes have pages that are somewhat see-through, which you usually don't run into with digital releases, so there's the dilemma between buying digital vs physical.

>if you want to support them
How do you figure this is any different than anime? If you want to support anything you have to buy things. Either the thing itself or associated merch. Plus, localized official sites apparently don't give a whole lot to the original people involved, so if you're just subscribing to CR that's likely less than buying the Japanese bluray release.

>>282066027
How often do you run into that with series that have new anime adaptions?
Pirates stopped scanning about a decade ago.
I gave up on pirated manga since the public raws are always badly done rips and even getting a working download takes effort.
>How do you figure this is any different than anime?
The initial post was
>We supported the series and made it popular enough to be worth making an anime out of.
Generally it's harder to support anime since the discs, if they even exist, are very pricy and you have to pay a lot for shipping for any physical good.
Subscribing to Japanese services like Abema doesn't really provide more money to a series you particularly like either.

>>282066459
I never understood why public raws were so bad. With anime, generally what you pirate is what is released (whether that's ripped from the bluray or just from some streaming site) but with public raws they're often shrunk and plastered with watermarks. Imagine if every anime encode you could find on nyaa had some sort of watermark on it (or all you could get was 480p). It's not just a case of people spending money on it and so they watermark it, because someone has to buy the bluray to rip from the bluray for an anime too. It seems like it's mostly the same few people running the manga sites with the shitty raws too.

Though there's a few series I'm reading that the Japanese site is kind of like MangaPlus where a few chapters are free and then put behind a paywall as more chapters are released. So in those cases you can get it straight from the source in good quality.

>>282045528 (OP)
I wish normalfags had never discovered anime...