Don't get me wrong, but all the lamentations in this post is prophetic to put it lightly. There a literally multi-billion dollar cosmetic, 'self-improvement' industries skinning women and increasingly men alike and diverting their energies from doing something that's useful for the collective and is actually pitting everyone against every other. Can you explain why the supposed incel revolution is not the only solution at this point, a revolution that aims to gurantee genetic survival for all, a revolution that aims to make monogamy the norm, a revolution that aims to ensure everyone has a stake in the society's future, a revolution that is ready to partake in eugenics in such a way that is egalitarian unlike traditional forms of eugenics that is highly exclusionary & downright genetically genocidal?

>>33281693 (OP)
you’re not entitled to sex, a wife or child. Your bloodline is not important and you have no legacy. Natural selection is doing this work

>>33281704
>you’re not entitled to sex, a wife or child.
by that logic no one is entitled to anything in any way whatsoever and that might is the only right, might in the form of pure physical strength, resources at disposal, beauty, etc.. Be careful with your words m8.
The reason why I claim that is because reproduction is the only known way for life to bypass death, the only solution that has worked for 3+ billion years and you claiming that it's ok to 'genetically murder' vast swathes of life forms is... well.., evil and anti-life ?

none of this makes sense to a healthy person who regularly interacts with other people
but by all means, have your incel revolt

>>33281759
>none of this makes sense to a healthy person who regularly interacts with other people
your avg 'healthy' perosn circa 2025. kek. Virtually everyone under 40 is partaking in this humiliation ritual at this point, either openly or behind closed doors so as to not appear desperate or as a try hard

>>33281759
>>33281794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smIeUXgV6Lk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXyNfvFDS1M
even the pundits who used to dunk on incel talking points are flipping the script

>>33281693 (OP)

>blah blah 6'5 blah jawline blah blah

meanwhile, millions of average (or below) guys get laid every second
yeah OP, you just suck at this.
the sooner you accept this is a skill that can be learnt, the better you'll do one day.

>>33281722
Yes. I understand what I said. No one is entitled to anything. Long live natural selection as the most ancient form of selection who lives on and who doesn’t now shut the fuck up

>>33281926
then the incel revolution being a reaction to this retardation is just as natural as muh natural selection. One could even argue that is just a manifestation of natural selection . Kek

>>33281722
>by that logic no one is entitled to anything
Correct. Your initial failure was to assume that life was in anyway fair, or that you are owed anything by anyone by simply being born.

>>33282077
you get absolute treachery & anarchy with that mindset especially if it's manifested irl by all

>>33281693 (OP)
>gurantee genetic survival for all
Not a good thing.
You my friend are living proof of what happens when natural selection "misses a spot". Your bloodline should have been pruned from existence a generation or two back, just to make sure.

>>33282116
> a revolution that is ready to partake in eugenics in such a way that is egalitarian unlike traditional forms of eugenics that is highly exclusionary & downright genetically genocidal?

>>33281704
No one feels entitled, it's an exchange they are clearly violating.

They aren't even interested in continuing thier own line, not to even count yours.

>>33281693 (OP)
I won't read yet another vent thread on an advice board!

>>33282122
>They aren't even interested in continuing thier own line
nta, but look up sperm bank usage stats in places like denmark, brazil and china and you may find that a large portion of women do want to have children, just not with the bottom 95% of men

>>33281693 (OP)
>where's the lie?
Every sentence of the image and your post.
> There a literally multi-billion dollar cosmetic, 'self-improvement' industries skinning women and increasingly men alike and diverting their energies from doing something that's useful for the collective
Retarded. Self-improvement is inherently good for everyone around you as well as yourself.
>pitting everyone against every other.
More retarded. Me getting stronger or learning how to cook a pie can't "pit me" against someone else.
>Can you explain why the supposed incel revolution is not the only solution at this point,
The incel revolution is LESS real than the concept of the Flat Earthers "waking everyone up". Incels are emotionally stunted, mentally weak and a tiny, TINY, fraction of people.
>gurantee [sic] genetic survival for all
The percentage of men having biological children has been very steady for generations.
>a revolution that aims to make monogamy the norm
Monogamy *IS* the norm. The porn you are addicted to is fake
>a revolution that is ready to partake in eugenics
Any eugenics program would exclude the incels because they are mentally ill.

>>33281722
>by that logic no one is entitled to anything in any way whatsoever
That was anon's point
>to 'genetically murder' vast swathes of life forms
You aren't being genocided, you refuse to talk to women.

>>33281794
So oyu have no idea that for all of human history men and women have tried to look nice?
and "not looking like a hungover bum" is NOT a 'humiliation ritual'

>>33281799
That's simply wrong.
men still vastly out-earn women and have much more power.
the fact that the sorts of overeducated, underskilled, over-online, underemployed, status-hungry, rootless, atomized, younger Millennials are insecure is about them, not Men.

>>33282181
has humanity benefitted from lookism-autism though?

>>33281799
>"none of this makes sense to a healthy person who interacts"
>replies with more propaganda garbage that doesnt make sense to healthy people who interact

Man you just dont get it.. your experience is subjective. Your reality is based on your experience (not reality itself). This truth you live is not everyone's truth.. and at rhe end of the day:

People who go outside, interact, understand social conventions, aren't chronically online know everything you're posting here isn't true. How is this not a huge red flag to you?
Youre the people chained in Platos cave, and you're screaming crying and shitting your pants when the shadows tell you they wear clothes.

>>33282045
>"Hey, Josh, what are you doing?!"
>"OH! Uh, uh, nothing"
>"OK, Josh, you need to stop trying to trim my hedge, OK?"
>I-i-its time for an up-upris..."
>"Yeah, I know, it needs trimming, but the landscapers come by every two weeks and take care of the lawn for me, OK? So just go on home"
>"You d-d-don't understand. Everything ch-ch-changes today. It is the incel uprising."
>"Is that the new video game, like skyrim? I don't play video games much since I left middle school so I lose track now"
>"N-n-no. It is the incel uprising, when the normies get wiped out and all the betas get g-g-g-girlfr- AH!"
>"Oh. Hi, Stacy"
>"Chad, what's wrong with him?"
>"I think you startled him. Josh, you know, Stacy"
>"[mumble, mumble] m'lady"
>"Hi, Josh. It is nice to see you again."
>"[mumble mumble]"
>"Stacy, I was just telling Josh that the service will take care of the hedge so he doesn't need to help"
>"I-i-i-i-t is th-the i-i-i-i-i-incel u-up-uprising. T-t-t-time for y-y-you to p-puh-puh-pay the p-p-price, normie"
>"Josh, I told you. I don't play video games anymore. I am certainly not going to pay for something I never ordered"
>"B-b-b-b-but"
>"Say hi to your mom for us, Josh"
>"y-you, too"

>>33282185
>men still vastly out-earn women and have much more power.
kek, no and those of the men that do have money can only think with their dicks and are bound to lose a large portion of their wealth to cunning women

>>33282188
gimme some stats though boi because your accusations of me being in a plato's cave is just as, if not more applicable to your delulu thinking more than anyone else who've started sounding the alarm.

>>33282178
This post made me actually laugh.
>you aren't being genocide you refuse to talk to women
The conversations we have to have with incels online are unimaginable.

>>33282083
Not at all.
That makes no sense at all.
Human rights are inherent and not "goods" or things to be "gotten".
You not being rntitled to free food doesn't mean you aren't allowed to grow, buy, or scavenge for food. It doesn't mean people can't give food to the poor. It just means YOU have no right to unjustly TAKE IT from someone.
You have no entitlement to a wife. That does not mean you can't marry a woman, you just can't FORCE a woman to marry you.

>>33282178
>You aren't being genocided
actually they're getting 'genetically' genocided though

>>33282164
>sperm bank usage
lol
less than 00.7% of women use sperm banks. 80% are married women with an infertile husband.

>>33282195
human rights aren't inherent though as the other anons seethed against OP by claiming that darwinism is the only truth.
>you just can't FORCE a woman to marry you.
but women as a collective can eradicate millions if not billions of men from the genepool right? Nice hypocrisy & word play faggot.

>>33282192
Now youre yelling at the shadows they're the ones in the cave..
Dude if youre chronically online friendless and womanless, and start saying some shit you cant possibly actually know because you dont interact with people, and people who aren't chronically online do come to you and tell you, hey, none of what you're saying is real, it usually means youre wrong.
>stats
I dont want to play a stats game with an incel. You dont understand them, you dont know how to interpret them, you all argue endlessly in bad faith. Its a complete waste of time.
Id really rather ask you why you think you, someone with zero social skills or interaction, has any idea about interaction?
And how do you not think you might develop some self serving biases that'll make you try and blame your problems on everyone else? Kinda like we all do when we're children. But we grow out of.it because of emotional practice through social interaction. Something you didnt have?

>>33282187
no, the autistic incels that freak out about appearance are silly.
And women care far less about men's appearance than incels believe.

>>33282196
And that's a good thing. Do you really want more of these pathetic fags running around?

>>33282189
fukkin lol

>>33282196
Genocide = acts to destroy a group
Incels = refuse to act to get a GF
vastly different.

>>33282201
>>33282202
>>33282204
>>33282207
kys hypocritical faggots. Have some coherence & consistency in your talking points

>>33282208
>incel:involutary celibate
yeah, incels definitely refuse to get a gf

>>33282209
Wow what a mature and intellectual response of someone who definitely knows more than everyone else about something he doesnt have any experience in.

>>33282199
Anon never said that.
he said YOU removing YOURSELF from the gene pool is about YOU
>but women as a collective can eradicate millions if not billions of men from the genepool right?
Sunshine, for the last roughly 3,000 years roughly 80%-85% of men have had biological children.
In that same time roughly 2% of all men died virgins.
Today?
Same numbers.
98% or so of all Zoomers will lose their virginity.
About 80%-82% of them will have their own kids.
The only real difference is that the mentally ill virgins blame other people for their own problems.

>>33282213
says the faggot resorting to ad-hominems from the get go. kek. nigger, kys

>>33282209
I am being VERY consistent.
You want to have kids?
Great!
1) talk to women
2) get married
3) have kids
TA-DAAAAAAAA!
But you and the 5,00 other KHHV incels that fear women ain't havin' no revolution, pal. That's crazy

>>33282217
You're replying to at least 2 different people, OP.

>>33282215
>Sunshine, for the last roughly 3,000 years roughly 80%-85% of men have had biological children.
kek

>>33282217
Youre talking to multiple people, anon. I haven't used a single ad hominem.
Which btw, is why you're going to see some incoherence. Youre talking ti multiple people living multiple realities of their own from multiple places, multiple age groups, multiple intelligence levels, multiple sets of progress in their journey of understanding the world around them.
Theres a bit of variance in how people react to an incel.

And yet, 100% of them all agree. Incels are deluded, wrong, and are trying to blame everyone else for their own problems they cause themselves. What does that tell you?

>>33282225
>And yet, 100% of them all agree.
in the same retardation though becuae no one wants to confront & contend with bitter truths that can easily jeopardise the normal everyday life

>>33282226
Dude no one else is living those "truths". Theyre not "truths" they're twisted understandings you have that you came up with to make yourself feel like your problems aren't your fault.
And, with a spectacular non sequitur, youre also now declaring because they're bitter means they're true.

You cant say "its a bitter truth thats hard to accept that women dont like most men" when youre literally talking to "most men" right now and no one else is having a problem but you.

>>33282229
>when youre literally talking to "most men" right now and no one else is having a problem but you.
men, women or bots with a certain agenda in mind so as to try & demoralize or gaslight the incel populace from gaining political consciousness that they're incels and steal their ability to organize, mobilize & revolt because the beneficiaries of the current system have a lot to lose if shtf

>>33282221
>too ignorant to know your image has nothing to do with the point
Here's a hint - men's children are 50/50 male and female.
Here's another - that difference in that chart is about the X chromosome (look it up, retard).
Only about 82% - 88% of women ever have kids, you know.

>>33282236
See, you're framing things in extreme ways to try and justify yourself.
Ask yourself this question, anon: if you were genuinely actually wrong, and you refused to believe it, is this not exactly what would happen? Youd get dog piled every time you opened your dumb mouth trying to tell everyone youre self serving opinions, which, to you, would look like some grand clockwork conspiracy people are trying to silence you?

Its not that dude. Its that people like arguing on the internet, and people who are divorced from reality, like you, are particularly easy targets

>>33282236
incels are less than 2% of the population!
They are socially isolated, socially inept, introverted, and overwhelmingly poor.
If they maximized their political power they couldn't elect a single congressman or MP.

>>33282178
>you refuse to talk to women

>>33282271
Give us all the details & timeline of the most recent time you asked a girl out

>>33282204
Unfortunately those defects arise even when you eugenicly isolate the poor sobs who have them. They are just a risk of reproduction. Recessive traits are present in healthy people. Not All defects are Recessive dna to begin with.

>>33282271
No one is arguing women dont get swamped and it isn't easier for them. This isnt about womens experience with dating.
Its about men who dont try then think its impossible then form a grand conspiracy the world was working against them and then hide behind memes, non sequiturs, and stats they dont actually understand.

>>33282251
>X chromosome
They did account for that and the figures in the graph was the end result retard

>>33282302
Suuuuuure they did.
That is why it is a
>checks image
Completely unsourced graph, right?

>>33282271
>week ago
>Hi, you're cute. Would you like to go on a date with me this weekend? I know this great place on the other side of the river in that new development.
>Don't talk to me. Don't talk to women at work.

Or school, or church, or at an event.

It's very Levintine of you to keep pivoting when you get blown the fuck out.

>>33282302
>>33282322
Not to mention that male:female ratio everyone's ignoring.
As though men die a lot more in the thousands of years this unsourced graph seems to be following (wars, duels, hunting, general acts of brazen stupidity) which itself will cause the outcome anon wants to believe can only mean women dont like men and its impossible to date despite the fact the vast grand majority of people do so successfully.

>>33282322
I unironically had that happen to me at a (arcade) bar. I was a paying customer. The seat was bolted to the ground, and then the group I moved for didn't even use it.

Why are you so dishonest?

Some people just lose. No need to lie and rub it into thier faces.

>>33282322
dude just stop it's embarassing

>>33282221
>I have no idea what a bottleneck event is and do not understand that for the graph shows that for the last 8,000 years men and women have been reproducing at the same rate
FTFY
Did another incel claim this graph is why you are afraid of women?

>>33282292
>dont try
That's the crux of your argument and it's more dishonest.

Women don't have it hard, they are retards who refuse to pick, until it's to late and they pick poorly. That's not hard, that's easy baby mode tutorial. Them fucking that up is absurd.

>>33282325

Even 30 years ago that is a ballsy risky approach based on absolutely nothing dude..
And yeah, awful idea at work. Its a crapshoot. It always has been a crapshoot. Its not like In 1990 she would have fallen into your arms, it was a huge risk then too. And if you fail you've poisoned your workplace for everyone.

That's why people causally talk and build a rapport first. If you at least are on friendly familiar terms and youre rejected its a lot softer and things can continue as normal.

So here we are again. You did something absolutely retarded (that eas always retarded to do) it didnt work out, and youre blaming some system, not yourself, for thinking it was a good idea to cold approach a coworker.

>>33282325
>a graph so infamously fake the scientist that created the original begs people to ignore it
Of course you believe it.
lol

>>33282348
>have been reproducing at the same rate
You're just throwing in the whole fishing rod, there's not any bait attached.

>>33282354
You'll always find something to to blame, you're not here in good faith.

>>33282337
>>33282346
Provide the source.
Then explain why the graph shows men & women reproducing at the same rate since the Iron Age?

>>33282337
>calls you a loser
>admit you are a loser
>call him dishonest
lmao

>>33282371
I'm the source, it happened to me.
Are you a bot?

>>33282374
You can do everything right and still lose.

>>33282367
OK. Explain to me why you thought it was a good idea to cold approach a co worker when you knew the odds were against you knowing that, if she said no, this would become very uncomfortable for everyone and create a tense work place?

>>33282361
That is what that chart shows
All research shows that for the last 3k years or so about 80%-85% of men and 82%-88% of women reproduce.
That is why the two lines on that graph have the same growth rate for the last 4k-6k years.
You LITERALLY cannot read that graph, can you?

>>33282393
>co-worker
>workplace
Nice projection.
>cold approach
And contradictory

Is this all sone sort of performance to rationalize your own bad experience?

>>33282384
Of the graph, retard

>>33282399
There aren't any % on that graph.
Your bad at this.

>>33282388
…and?
Who doesn’t know that? Toddlers?

>>33282403
You quoted a post responding to an image, and you know it.

Anon there are more than 2 people in this thread.

>>33282408
>thinks the percentages come from the graph
lol
>still no source on the fake graph
lmao, even
You are an incel because your IQ is so low it is a danger to Mankind if you reproduce

>>33282411
Your position is that " it's the incels fault for a lack of effort" and "thier failure is evidence of thier lack of effort"

That does not work well with admitting winning is disjointed from effort.

>>33282408
>your bad at this
>your bad
>your

>>33282422
You understand that raitos are mutualy exclusive by nature right?

>>33282429
Got you

Your next trick will be "just pretending to be retarded"

>>33282416
…and directly referenced the graph.
Where is your tard wrangler?

>>33282438
My bar story does not mention any graph.

>>33282428
You cannot win if you never play.
And uncles blame Women
So they are scapegoating
Did you forget this thread is about a
>snort
Incel Uprising to
>lol
Transform society so that incels can
>LOL
breed?
Meaning they want to stack the deck?

>>33282437
Pal, your lame attempts at deflection are just so BAD.
You are in a humiliation conga line as multiple anons dunk on your idiotic beliefs, your fake charts, and your ignorance yet think a shitty (and misspelled) jibe can pull you out of it?!
you are too pathetic to dislike

>>33282432
This is false & nonsensical.

>>33282432
>thinks that unsourced graph shows only ratios
lol
>has no idea how ratios work
lmao

>>33282474
The only ratio that enables your claim is 1. ~85%/~85% ≈ 1
That graph does not stay at 1 on the ratio line, it never even gets below 2.
Any number above 1 is effectivly evidence against your claim.

Why are you hung up on graphs? Asking Source? Source? Source? Makes you look bad.

>>33282446
Reproduction is just continuing, not winning. You don't win this game.

>>33282499
>I literally have no idea how graphs work, even this fake one
FTFY

>>33282499
Wait, wait, wait.
Do you think that chart ratio means that if the ratio is 5:1 that means 5 women reproduce for every man that does?

>>33282499
No, OP, not giving a source proves you are lying.

>>33282348
literally not. Although your claim is true for the past 1000-2000 years, coninciding with the adoption of christianity. Even the graph says so

>>33282371
OP here. A simple reverse image search could've helped ya pal. Y so lazy? I thought only the supposed incels were lazy according to folks like you. Kek
https://genome.cshlp.org/content/25/4/459.full.pdf+html

>>33282221
Hey!
The fake shit from Scientific Blackpill!
I thought you morons were tired of being dragged about this bullshit?

>>33282585
Literally yes
And the graph shows 6k years.

>>33282221
>sourceless graph
I too can pull meaningless bullshit out of my ass that fits a narrative.

>>33282711
Also big LMAO thinking we have any accurate statistics about population for the last 80 THOUSAND years.

>>33282685
>retarded, lazy anon finally does some basic reverse image search after his goon session watching cuck porn but is still too retarded to go to the place where the study was cited
every single time. Btw, incellish men also consume less pornography compared to the avg man. Never knew being blackpilled af can wreck female's cheap way of making money.

>>33282614
Holy fuck, that is hilarious.
So the incels are arguing that because about 8,000 years ago for about 100 years in a region of Asia minor only about 20% of men had children
>And that hasn't happened since
probably because of a Mongol-invasion type scenario, this is why they can't get a GF in the Year of Our Lord 2025?
FUCKING REALLY?!?!?!?!
THEY THIN THEY'RE VIRGINS BECAUSE OF STEPPES CONQUERORS 8,000 YEARS AGO?!?!?!
Even though the SAME STUDY says that today men and women reproduce at the roughly the same amount?!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>33282714
>what is genetics
>what is the y-chromosome
>what is the neolithic y-chromosome bottleneck
you're a fucking moron, anon, just stop that's embarassing

>>33282732
But the study says that for AT LEAST 6,000 years men and women have been reproducing at about the same rate.
So does the graph.
So what, pray tell, does that chart have to do with
>>33282215
*other than proving anon was correct*?
Was OP trying to give MORE support to anon?

>>33282732
Sounds like incel cope to be honest.
Face it, you've made up your mind and are willing to accept any info that validates your beliefs. You're working backwards from a false conclusion. You don't even want help. Fuck you.

>>33282738
>>33282730
OP obviously simply doesn't understand the graph and if he read the study the words were too big for him.
Someone somewhere told incels that graph means they can give up, and they believe it.
It's always that simple.

>>33282732
Never forget, the neolothic Bottleneck was not just very limited in time, it was very limited in space. It wasn't all humans everywhere, it was in Asia Minor - other populations (Africa, Asia) were totally unaffected.
Claiming the neolithic Bottleneck is "proof" that modern men can't get a date because of genetics is like pointing to the Battle of the Somme and screaming
>"Why should I save for retirement? See this five month battle in this part of France? THAT PROVES MOST MEN DIE BEFORE THE AGE OF 30, YOU MORON You are arguing with SCIENCE!!"

>>33281693 (OP)
Imagine the incel revolution starts and the first time the incel militia gets their shit pushed in by the 6'4 cop and they go like
>bros we got guerillamogged it's so over
>boyo you're coping if you think this revolution is gonna work jfl
>fuck this revolutions aren't made for sub5 males i'm going back to LDAR
And then they disband having done maybe a couple of terrorist attacks

>>33282772
wan't there a famous video of a tall chad getting rekt by a manlet lawyer with a gun in a dispute as the wife of the tall man decide to cuck him for the manlet, albeit with a rich & handsome lawyer?

>>33281693 (OP)

>>33282778
not as famous as the manlet freaking out in a bagel shop until he got rekt by a 5'7" guy

Did OP really spend hours defending a graph only to learn it proves him wrong?
I'm bookmarking this in the archives!

>>33282827
oh plz, show me why it's wrong. Literally the sauce for the graph was posted itt

>>33282833
Yes, and the graph and the source refute this
>>33282199
>but women as a collective can eradicate millions if not billions of men from the genepool
You DO remember that the graph was posted in reply to this
>>33282215
right?
Right?
Because the graph and the study say this
>>33282199
is wrong but that this
>>33282215
is correct.
So OP slapped up a graph that proves him WRONG, didn't realize it, and spent hours arguinf that everyone listen to it as 5-6 anons laughed their asses off at him.
I mean, you're obviously OP and you *still* are defending the proof that you are wrong!

>>33282833
Moron.
he didn't say
>the graph is wrong
he said
>OP is wrong and the graph proves it
he's saying the graph is correct but you aren't

>>33282833
Were you born this stupid or did you have surgery?
He said the graph is RIGHT but OP is wrong!

>>33282862
>he's saying the graph is correct but you aren't
I'm correct though and I'm yet to see arguments or evidence that I'm worng

>>33282868
then read this
>>33282614
>https://genome.cshlp.org/content/25/4/459.full.pdf+html
Because it says
>The localized, limited Neolithic Bottleneck was almost certainly caused by men
So this
>>33282199
>women as a collective can eradicate millions if not billions of men from the genepool
is false.
You didn't even read it, did you?

>>33282868
Moving the goalposts!
You initially claimed he said the graph was wrong.
Admit you lied about what he said, loser

>>33282882
>expecting an incel to read a study
Of course he didn't. He made up his mind and nothing will prove him otherwise.

>>33282890
They can't read graphs, either.
I love how the OKCupid data proves women don't care about a man's appearance but Incels trot it out 100 times a day to prove women think men are hideous

>>33282890
>>33282882
Right now OP is frantically scrolling through the report for the first time

>>33282798
Saved

>>33282897
I almost feel bad for them. Then I remember they're all a bunch of retards that purity spiral about how much they hate women without ever talking to them. Friendly reminder that the supreme gentleman never had a girlfriend and I think most incels have never talked to a girl. It's just a vicious cycle of self loathing, autism, and dumbassery.

What's especially funny is that there are women just like that and both deny the others existence. A match made in autism limbo.

>>33282974
To be entirely fair, women are eminently hateable and shitty to talk to. The real question isn't why people can't get a girlfriend, its why people want a collection of walking holes talking to them in the first place. You're free, OP, go out and do whatever it is you want to do with your life. Anyone who has ever had a marriage can easily inform you that its a shit deal.

>>33282882
>The localized, limited Neolithic Bottleneck was almost certainly caused by men
Alright, but why did the women choose to copulate with the victors? Today's chads slaying women who'll only fuck is the equivalent to what you're just trying to claim. My point still stands and perhaps a better way of putting it would be the 'chad-foid' duopoly is literally genociding millions if not billions of men from the genepool

>>33282994
>who'll only fuck
chads**

>>33282989
Cope, seethe, and mald loser

>>33282994
> but why did the women choose to copulate with the victors?
Look up slavery, fuckard.

>>33282994
Well, you did already outline your realistic options, OP. You can ignore it and continue to do what you're doing or you can go full fash and try to kill, conquer and rape your way to what you want. Nobody is stopping you at the moment, and statistically war and upheaval has been the main avenue for personal enrichment of the poorest classes of society. One war trophy rich enough can turn your life around.

You're trying to get the reward without the absurd amounts of personal risk, and that's not generally how this sort of thing works. Go start bashing peoples' brains out and see how far you get. Making a point isn't going to get people on the benefits side of the aisle to admit you should kill them and take what they have, or to admit its distributed unfairly and should be made more equitable. It would fly in the face of human nature.

>>33282989
>can't get a girlfriend
Nigga you're not even trying. You took one look at a few cherry picked screencaps from tinder and tiktok and decided it wasn't even worth it. I don't even feel compelled to help you change your ways. This is purely Darwin in action, as someone as stupid as you deserves to be removed from the gene pool.

>>33282994
>Ok, sure, the chart proves me wrong BUT I SM STILL RIGHT because, uh, because, because of CHAD! ITS NOT MY FAULT I NEVER TALK TO WOMEN, BLAME CHAD!!
FTFY
I could hear you crying over tcp/ip, lol

>>33283016
>You took one...
Don't care, didn't ask, fuck off.

Not here looking for holes, simply here to provide a less normie-centric argument than the one filtering out of you shitheads.

>>33283011
>It would fly in the face of human nature.
icnel tier chimpout is human nature though. Boxer rebellion and the many civil wars that plagued china can attest to that

>>33283026
>I came here to be retarded, why am I getting shit for it?

>>33283009
it's all speculation at this point. the fact of the matter still remains which is women outbred men in the past and we're seeing it manifesting in real time now even when male mortality has been vastly reduced

>>33283031
That's... exactly what I just said. Chimping out is natural, normal, and generally how people equalize unfair situations. No amount of money, status or pussy is going to put someone's head back together after you bash it in with a rock, you will have won and they will have lost because you're alive and they're dead. Simple as.

The problem is that it entails a tremendous amount of personal risk of death or imprisonment that, given that most people are very risk averse, most humans aren't willing to go for unless they absolutely must. But you're free to go off the wagon and make us an entertaining story on the 6 o'clock news whenever you're ready, Anon.

>>33283031
Boxer Rebellion
>bunch of loons insisted king fu made them bullet proof, attacked men with guns
>kung fu cant make you bulletproof and they died
>the people they attacked oppressed the survivors harder
great example, kek

>>33283034
Don't (You) at me, you mouth-breathing mongoloid. I didn't come here to talk to people who breathe through their asshole, I came here to talk to OP about his situation on our Turkish Underwater Basil Smoking Forum.

>>33282236
> men, women or bots with a certain agenda in mind so as to try & demoralize or gaslight the incel populace from gaining political consciousness that they're incels and steal their ability to organize, mobilize & revolt
LOLOL!
I can see it now
Adolf Incel
>join us in the glorious Incel Uprising!
Normie men
>what do we get?
Adolf Incel
>you get nothing and we take your wives and daughters as sex slaves
Women
>what?
Adolf Incel
>you get the honor of being sex slaves to the poorest, weakest, most autistic, most emotionally stunted men in the world, you are welcome
Incels
>Government issued girlfriends?!?! WOOOOOHOOOOO! What do we have to do?!
Adolf Incel
>first, go outside- wait, stay in the group chat!
Adolf Incel
>why is no one listening?

>>33283036
> we're seeing it manifesting in real time now
No
We are not
Young WOMEN we’re less likely to have sex just a few years ago, you drooling idiot

>>33281693 (OP)
Incels training for the uprising

>>33283044

>>33283040
Nta, but Incel rage due to skewed sex ratio was a factor though. Infact, whenever you've some sort of revolutions, you're bound to have a good chunk of it composing of incel men who could potentially gain a wife as awar bride or atleast divert their incel rage into something tangible

>>33283044
I find it extremely funny that someone like you has the audacity to call me a mongoloid. Please, continue.

>>33283070
I’m sure the
>checks notes
Wealthy and successful martial artists, businessmen, politicians, and Chinese nobles in the Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists were JUST LIKE your poor, ignorant, fearful, autistic self, OP

>>33281693 (OP)
OP when told that if he wants a GF he has to talk to women

>>33283083
What are you on about? Look up the wiki on this m8.

>>33283120
>muh wiki
LOLOLOL!
It was a type of secret society and the leaders were rich & powerful. The peasantry involved were often married men.
Your fantasy that it was a bunch of hopeless virgins dreaming of a GF is retarded.

>>33283070
At the time China had a *female* surplus, you idiot, because so many men had emigrated, died, or become addicts!
You have it BACKWARDS.
Also, the deluded fools of the Boxers were slaughtered like helpless lambs.

>>33281693 (OP)
it's called communism dude there's a reason marx's critique of capital and political economy set half the world on fire.... something like eugenics in a capital-based society will never get implemented because it's an affront to individual liberty, which communism regards properly as a political anachronism... and the guaranteed survival of all, on similar grounds, will never be implemented in a capital based society because the competitive process (as a basic principle of free markets) ensures the existence of an eternal class of 'losers'... the reason capitalism can't deal with homelessness is because it literally sanctions it and requires it to function... communism is a system of even and fair distribution where a universal basic income or allowance would be a mainstay, much like social security but more encompassing w regard to who qualifies.

the 'incel' revolution is curious mixup of ideas without a coherent political direction or even an understanding of where those ideas come from... most incels think what they want is closer to nazism but in reality many of these ideas are communist... nazism being just another phase in the lifecycle of imperial capital, and one which, by the way, we are probably entering again

https://libcom.org/article/auschwitz-or-great-alibi
https://unevenearth.org/2018/08/the-social-ideology-of-the-motorcar/

>>33283160
Perhaps I got it wrong.it could be the taiping rebellion. Point is many major rebellions or civil wars hald armies that were filled with incellish men in their cadres. Also, wasn't polygamy still a widely practiced thing during boxer rebellion era?

>>33283187
FFS, that is even LESS like yoyrcretarded Incel Uprising.
And polyamory was only among the super-rich, less than 3% of men.
You dont know a fucking thing about anything, do you?

>>33283168
>incels are as stupid as commies
Edited for length

>>33283204
Sauce that polygamy was only restricted to the top ? Even then, didn't the elites have massive harems of women?

>>33283218
LOLOL
No, you fucking retard.
Legal wives in Qing China?
1
The richest 2%-3% had 1 or two concubines.
FSS, the EMPEROR only 1 concubine, you porn-addled goon

>>33283243
dude, no
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Chinese_harem_system
>There were limits placed on how many imperial consorts could hold the ranks of concubine and above. An emperor could have 1 empress, 1 imperial noble consort, 2 noble consorts, 4 consorts and 6 concubines at a time. The ranks of noble lady, first class attendant and second class attendant were unlimited.

>>33283270
But the last three emperors only HAD one, you fucking moron.
Since you think Wikipedia = education, go look up plyandry in Qing China - guess what?
About as many women had multiple husbands as men had multiple wives/concubines.
NOW what, incel?You gonna' keep saying you're afraid of women now because 130 years ago the Chinese Emperor could have 10 concubines?

ITT: An incel that can't read graphs, can't read history books, and can't talk to women thinks he will overthrow the government and fundamentally transform society through his force of personality.

>>33282221
OP
>this chart shows that 10,000 years ago WOMEN only fucked CHAD! This is SCIENTIFIC PROOF that women are committing GENETIC GENOCIDE!
>>33283009
Anons
>it was caused by men
>>33283036
OP
>no on can ever know
lol

>>33283314>>33283322
OP here. Get gud with the samefagging clown faggery
>But the last three emperors only HAD one, you fucking moron.
no one knows the numerous concubines the emperor had you fucking clown
>women cucked men
only with high status men, clown
keep up with clownish spam, clown
as for a an actual incel rebellion or that which was fuelled by virgin rage, here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nian_Rebellion

>>33283909
>waits hours to try to get in the last word
kek
>has NO IDEA concubines were official positions with government titles and closest recorded
lol
>CLUELESS that most women in polyandry did it with poor men
lmao
>Thinks the Nian Rebellion - WHICH HAD MISTLY MARRIED TROOPS with the wives/GFs forming their own units - was about incels
o how im laffin
Tell me again why a Chinese revolt caused by floods 1700 years ago is why you lack the courage to talk to women

>>33283939
*170 years ago
I was laughing too hard to edit

>>33283909
lol

>>33283939
conveniently ignores the other major factor. Peak clown faggery
here ya go faggot
>Political scientists Valerie Hudson and Andrea den Boer suggest that the rebellion was fueled, at least in part, by decades of female infanticide caused by the flood-related economic misery, leading to a large population of frustrated young men without any women to marry, perhaps as many as a quarter of all young men in the area being in this category of "bare branches"
>>33283949
what's so funny?

>>33284002
That was a FEMINIST that claimed floods in 1850 caused sex ratio turmoil in 1852.
She is a nutter

>>33284002
What is so funny?
When women are scarce you do not let them fight

>>33281704
Telling people that isn't going to make them want to contribute to society. There's a reason cultures all around the world introduced monogamy

>>33281693 (OP)
The powers that be will soon retreat below the ground and discard 99% of their control structures like government bodies, intelligence personel, military enforcers, think-thank masterminds, religious figures, mercantile and economic assets, the whole managerial, bureaucratic and parasitic class, and countless other occulted elites and puppets across various industries which have been hard at work in aiding and abeting them for thousands of years to shackle and enslave the rest of humanity to their doctrines and systems of control.
This is the moment we've all been waiting for anons, the Great Equalizer will bring about the extermination campaigns most of us and our ancestors could never even have dream of. The Authority currently employes hundreds of millions of men and women across various governing bodies, industries and departments, and they will all perish in a righteous rage this world has never seen before and perhaps never will see again after. Six thousand years of lies, atrocities, misery and untold suffering are coming to an end anons, and all those currently working for the system, including those retired or decomissioned, will be hunted down and wiped off from the face of the earth for their complicity and duplicity.
Rip and tear their flesh apart until it is done

>>33284281
It makes men take action so they get a family

>>33284281
Are you actually retarded?

>>33281693 (OP)
New women are created daily. The supply of women cannot be exhausted as a result.

>>33281722
>you claiming that it's ok to 'genetically murder' vast swathes of life forms is... well.., evil and anti-life ?
No, retard. So long as enough people other than you are reproducing, life is supported. And it's not evil to drop dead weight. Human life overall is a moral good; YOUR life is not.

The time will pass anyways. You can either look better when you're older or look the same if not worse.

Or you could commit to killing yourself. But none of you have the balls to do that.

>>33284445>>33284574
based retards
>>33284859
the aspects of Life that is unique to 'you' dies with you if you fail to reproduce.
>YOUR life is not
kek, the hypocrisy. Kys gynocratic bootlicker faggot cuck
>>33284078
the fact of the matter still remains the same clown. Skewed sex ratios fuelled the uprising & unrest, either because of female infanticide or some other reason that reduced F:M ratio
>>33284093
It's a mere footnote in history and a precursor to what was to come. Female military participation wasn't that much as compared to what the world witnessed in the boxer rebellion.

>>33281693 (OP)
this will never work because women will not play along.
>inb4 force them
why so many men end up mysteriously dying before divorce was easy. your government issue wife will kill you or herself. there is no light at the end of the incel revolution tunnel. just death and suffering. i know it sucks to be isolated and unable to connect with others in social situations. but you can't just force people to like you. a trapped animal will fight twice as hard.
sometimes we all need to find ways to cope. for me i sink into my work and hobbies. it's just the sacrifice we make as outcasts.

>>33285802
>women will kill you
well, if female on male homicides do increase substantially then I suppose women will have to be made cripple for life and use them only for their uteruses & ovaries and have this sort of a system till artificial, lab grown babies becomes a thing.
>that's barbaric
so is the genocide of 100s of millions of men from the genepool. As many gynocratic bootlickers itt had highlighted, all's fair in life, love and war and that might is the only right. Women & chads are exerting their will over the bottom 90% of men and it's about time the script got flipped that forces the chad-foid duopoly to play our games on our terms.

>>33285876
1. Other Men will never let you treat their daughters and grandson's mothers that way.
2. Humanity moves on without the worst possible genes for a reason. Cuddling the weakest with welfare cripples the species as a whole. You're not a panda.

>>33285444
No, you buffoon, a hard-core feminist that claims all dating is political CLAIMS there was a sex ratio imbalance.
There is no evidence of one existing until the generation AFTER the uprising.
She's the same idiot that wrote a book stating that once Hillary Clinton was president all wars would end forever because a woman was in charge.

>>33286300
provide stats or gtfo, nigger bugger
>>33285953
you sound like foid who's scared as shit for the coming revolution. Here's the deal bitch. The avg man is red to blackpilled af on female nature and virtually has no incentive to protect even his own mother who literally helped usher in the era whoredom & the kaliyuga. On top of that, men generally hate the notion of having daughters and would love to just get rid of them(not killed per se but rather getting them married asap) and would be happy if they didn't exist at all in the first place. Women are only good for child rearing and that's about it. In a future where child rearing is done through artificial means, what good would a woman bring to the table? If all men agreed, which they will, that women are an absolute bane to humanity, they will enslave women and only prioritise on their sons because it's the son who carries the Y chromosome, the chromosome who's lineage can be traced back millions and millions of years, and instills a sense of immortality in men because as long as a man's y chromosome keeps making it to the next generation, he'll always be a step ahead of the 'genetic death' every man is deeply afraid of.

>>33286375
LOL!
Go back to wikipedia, loser.
Remember how you proved you know NOTHING about Chinese history 5 times already?

>>33286401
kek, the seethe. That wasn't me nigger bugger. It was some other faggot. I was the one who posted the nian rebellion faggot. What a fucking loser you've to be to now change topics. Prove it's wrong or gtfo loser and go back to licking the boots of the gynocracy nigger bugger

>>33286375
>the coming revolution
HO HO HO HO HO
HA HA HA HA HA
OP is an overweight, out of shape doughball that breathes hard walking to the microwave for another hot pocket.
He's never done a pushup or situp in his life, has never touched an actual firearm, and thinks his $18 wallhanger that he sung around twice is a KATANA!!!! that can slice a tank. he has no friends, fears women, and can't look strangers in the eye. He can't start or maintain a conversation in person and he'd rather burn to death than make a public speech.
He is the bottom 2% of all men. The bitterest of the dregs.
But he's gonna be a revolutionary, everybody! He swears! he's going to be part of the most expansive change to human culture in 4,000 years!

>>33286410
No, friendo, I did prove it wrong.
The source is discredited. See the reviews of the book that is quoted, she was eviscerated.

try again

>>33286410
>Some other anon using the exact same misspellings, using the exact same retarded claims, making the exact same grammar errors also coincidentally repeatedly referenced Chinese rebellions and using the same source WASN'T ME, I SWEAR!
Fuck, OP, I thought you were a pathetic loser BEFORE this!

>>33286427
kek, seethe moar faggot. deboonk or gtfo.
>>33286432
yeah sure. phone faggots are a pain in the ass to deal with but not as much as clowns like you

Every "nornalfag" ITT is utterly terrified of being branded an incel thenselves. That's why they get emotional telling incels how wrong they are for all the usual reasons.

>>33286442
>NO! I SWEAR THERE IS ANOTHER IDIOT AS STUPID, IGNORANT, AND CRAZY AS ME IN THE EXACT SAME WAYS!
you're crying again, aren't you?

>>33286466
Every "nornalfag" ITT is utterly terrified of being branded an flat earther themselves. That's why they get emotional telling flat earthers how wrong they are for all the usual reasons.

BTW, it is OP that is screaming, crying, and calling names.

>>33286466
this
>>33286467
running out of ideas eh? How about the idea kys?

>>33286472
>BTW, it is OP that is screaming, crying, and calling names.
you clowns started it though and I'm merely following your tradition. Name calling and ad hominems are the only languages you sad fucks unironically understand

>>33286442
>"I am only a pathetic loser that can't talk to women because of a Chinese rebellion 150 years ago!"
lol
How many guns do you own, OP?

>>33286479
Look back through the thread, OP.
You started off coping, seething, malding, and so on.
And you also have no idea what 'ad hominem' means.

>>33286421
>>33283322
I wonder why OP never replied to these posts?

>>33286492
why should I reply to literal spam? Kek
>>33286480
>>33286486
keep up with the good cope

>"Even though I have never had any friends, never go to social events, and only communicate through fringe internet sites I just know deep down I am an important person! When i finally figure out how to talk to people they will realize I am special! They will want to follow me! I will be a respected, even feared leader! And they will realize i was always right, about everything! All those men who can talk to people, who did things, who had friends and women and jobs and respect will realize I am better than them, or they will suffer! But no one will suffer as much sa they women who scare me! Oh, how they will pay for the crime of not flocking to me as I deserve! My day will come! I swear it! SOME DAY I WILL BE FEARED!"
OP is just another sad cunt of a loser that daydreams of being able to punish all the people who lived their lives without realizing he's secretly super special.
He thinks that way now and he'll still be thinking that way on 40 years.
He won't do anything about it, but he'll still be thinking it.

>>33286531
the avg man just hates the avg woman in circa 2025 with great passion. Plz tell me what you're smoking right now. Sure, the avg man was sent his own way thx to the chad-foid duopoly, but to say that the incel community is some fringe, teeny-tiny group on the internet is big mistake that you're making. Anyways, I want to hear more such copes from you clowns

>>33286569
The vast majority of men never think of
>women
just particularly women.
And very few hate them.
And incels are maybe 2% of men.
Maybe.
And incels ARE incels because they lack social skill and self-confidence.
Any incel with the confidence, skills, and so on the join an uprising would not be an incel.

>>33286590
yeah sure.

>>33286611
So retarded you think some clickbait shit from a late 30 year old wine aunt complaining that men do not open up and cry means all men are virgin losers like you?
FFS, go outside!
In 2024 about 1 in 4 men aged 25 WERE ALREADY MARRIED, you fuckeit!

>>33286590
>And incels ARE incels because they lack social skill and self-confidence.
>Any incel with the confidence, skills, and so on the join an uprising would not be an incel.
This. Any incel who developed those traits, the charisma and confidence needed to rally, inspire, and lead other men, would probably end up attracting a few 2/10 women by accident. And hilariously, you could probably count the seconds before he'd also throw his fellow incels under the bus at that point.

>>33286639
>FFS, go outside!
the whole article does talk about men not being outside in dating spots. Many men are outside though unlike you who lives in some dingy apartment and gets paid by glowies to demoralize incels from organizing & revolting. Sad you chose this path anon

>get lots of ugly guys to acquire money, or set up some sort of massive international fund for each other
>they start eating as healthy as fuck and working out really hard
>get ultra looksmaxxing surgery for chiseled features, etc in the meantime
>they all go on suicide runs and impregnate as many women as possible in the shortest amount of time possible
>it's only after a wave of ugly chuds are born all over the world that they realise they've been trolled
>no laws have been broken
>best they can do is pretend they were raped, but with the prison system in nearly all countries already massively overstretched, almost everyone will get away with it
>sink remaining funds and assets into giant bro party, then collectively file for bankruptcy
>nothing left for hoes to steal
>guys all go on neetbux to drain the same system the hoes are going to
>everything collapses and burns down
>not enough men willing to work to rebuild society
>black and brown immigrants realise they've made a huge mistake migrating to a collapsing civilisation
>everybody wins
>except for women and muds

>>33286804
Incels are revolting, agreed

>>33286842
This is this
>>33286531
But retarded

>>33286853
I just tried to claim clowns like you are trying to derrail any possible traction that this movement is gaining

>>33286862
What movement?
What traction?
You might as well claim the people laughing at a retard playing with his own shit are why the retard isnt king of the moon.
You have no friends and have no idea how to get any, how will anyone follow you?
You are too scared to talk to strangers, how will you rally a crowd?
You lack all social skills, how will you sway the masses?
You are a timid, weak manchild, how will you defeat a factory worker, let alone a soldier?
You might as well plan to flap your arms and fly, incel, that is more likely

>>33286897
>Why yes, I believe the avg invel stereotype propagated in social media. How can you tell?
Virtually no young man who has any sense of self-respect has dropped out of the dating market and is much more likely to lash out at soiciety and clowns like you. Sure, the incels may not be organized on the ground, but the potential still remains as there are vast swathes of bitter angry men who won't hesitate putting the heads of kikes like you on a pike and bring an end to this gynocracy-degeneracy. Look at south Korea ffs nigger bugger.

>>33286936
I notice you denied nothing
Your retarded incel delusion
>vast swaths of bitter men
Meanwhile, Outside
>picrel
and the stupid racism keeps up, too

>>33286936
>Virtually no young man who has any sense of self-respect has dropped out of the dating market and is much more likely to lash out at soiciety and clowns like you
kek. this reminds of the recent insta thot's murder. Sad that there are men like the gynocrats itt who'd much rather watch themselves get cucked by the very system that they're licking the heels of with desperation

>>33281704
So you're saying we should start raping and pillaging then?
You are not entitled to safety either.

>>33286971

>>33286963
literally fake n gay stats that was conveniently released when the entire manosphere and major media outlets started covering the dating & male loneliness epidemic. Go fuck yourself clown.

>>33287624
>the exact same stats incels used in 2022 to claim that men are sexless
FTFY

>>33287624
GSS
>during COVID lockdowns young people had less sex
Incels
>this is SCIENCE and it prove incels are RIGHT!
GSS
>but after lockdowns ended young people started having sex again
Incels
>That is a lie, REEEEEEEEEEEEE!

>>33287936
>>33287959
nothin personal kiddos
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/
But yes even these are fake stats that can't be trusted

>>33288293
>its all fake but this fake shit means I am correct
lol
I also ADORE that you are using the Pew analysis *that Pew withdrew* because of an error in the math program!
Is being as retarded as you are painful, or are you just numb?

>>33288524
One cope after another. Kek, kys already faggot. The stats in all of the recently released studies are fake af

>>33289261
>all scientists everywhere are stupid, dumb, and wrong. Only the worst losers in society know what is really going on.
lol

>>33290380
>faggotard thinks meme spamming will give him the upper hand in this argument

>>33290615
You never had an argument to begin with.

>>33290704
I did until you derrailed this entire thread though. Now go back to getting pegged by the gynocracy you love so much

i dont believe the "today's 8/10 is tomorrow's 6/10" idea. styles change but the core of what makes someone attractive i'd argue has always been consistent.

>>33290921
Idk about you, but heights have been going up everywhere. If height is part that decides one's SMV , then there's some truth to that. Clearly being a 6'0 guy in Netherlands isn't going to make you stand out as more than 50% of males are just as if not taller than that

>>33290615
your ENTIRE POINT is that you have zero argument, you just whine about women!

>>33290721
>thinks only 1 anon is laughing at his incel retardation
lol

>>33291316
>>33291321
kool kope, kiddos

>>33281693 (OP)
We were sent here by the creator to put an end to the current creation. You see when ITS creation becomes too corrupted and the power players become too powerful, Chuds are sent to annihilate everything in it so that a new world can be made.

This is the will of the creator and nothing can stop what is coming.

>>33291373
He's right. You're a retard whose afraid of women. You've got no charisma and probably haven't even talked to a woman in the last year. You're probably a blobby, pathetic loser that has no hobbies either. So you occupy your time jerking off and whining about how you get no pussy. The reality of your situation is that it's entirely salvagible, but you probably won't put any effort into fixing yourself.
Now how close am I? Pretty close?

>>33282188
>People who go outside, interact, understand social conventions, aren't chronically online know everything you're posting here isn't true. How is this not a huge red flag to you?
Youre the people chained in Platos cave, and you're screaming crying and shitting your pants when the shadows tell you they wear clothes.
lol, well said. I see short guys, guys with recessed jawlines, guys who are chubbyfat etc pulling hard in the real world because they are confident and talkative.

One thing that most men don't understand about women, is that women don't care as much about looks as much as they do how someone makes them feel.

Women care about how *you* make *them* feel more than anything else. Women are more sensitive to energy and more driven by emotion which is why it's hard for a lot of men to understand how women think.

So a guy who can walk up to a woman and start excitedly talking about stuff and making her feel like she's having fun - she'll start feeling attraction for him.

btw I'm a average-height Indian-American guy and I pull just fine. The most common thing women say to me is "I love your energy" and "you're fun". The internet would have you think that being Indian is game over with women, but in the real world no one gives a shit. And likewise you don't need a hard jawline to pull, and being 5'7 is just fine as long as you're taller than the woman you're hitting on. Women don't sit on 4chan circle jerking over jawline hardness or race.

>>33291373
Cry harder

>>33281693 (OP)
When my mom watched my dad try to choke me to death, then when I showed her the bruises around my neck the next morning, She gave me this sicking smile and told me she has no clue what I'm talking about and that I self inflicted them. The idea that your mother loves unconditionally is bullshit so would any other woman.

>>33291542
>>33291586
lol

>>33281704
You're right but the society we live has nothing to do with natural selection. There is nothing "natural" in our life.

>>33294120
whatever continues to survive, endure, exist & persist, is natural.
>>33281693 (OP)
Yes, women and chads are eugenic FEMINAZIS & NAZIS and will get away with the genetic genocide of millions of men. What ya gonna do about it incel? Launch a special military operation to denazify women & chads? kek, the entire military will be used against the entire incel population if necessary, even if 80% of men happen to be incels. All the ruling elites have to do is promise the men serving in the military with money & one or two brides for each and in no time all the incels will be rounded up and executed or castrated and worked to death. Women and chads continue winning because they can easily exploit men's key weaknesses which are desperation, short sightedness & selfishness

>>33292248
>everyone in the entire world can only think and act like my parents
>>33294092
>random posts on tastes define exactly how every woman thinks
You chucklefucks are funny AF

>>33294299
Samefagging is shameful, OP

>>33294299
>and in no time all the incels will be rounded up and executed or castrated and worked to death.
We can only hope.

>>33286375
As much as I hate to say it, in the most misogynistic societies men are most protective of their women. They lack literally everything including running water but want to keep the women and children because the average man wants a wife. Or sometimes multiple.

>>33281759
Are these people in the room with us right now?

>>33294299
>pssst incel, go shoot up a school and strike foids & chads with terror lead
Nice try gynoglowie. We will revolt, but only when the time is right in an organized well planned fashion which shall strike you balls deep
>>33294737
your gynoglowie friend is here>>33294299
retard doesn't know who's vaginaljewing who. kek.

>>33295031
>incel fantasizing about gay sex
errytime

>>33295101
>raping the female led gynocracy is gay sex
kek, have straight sex gynoglowie. I get it the gynocracy uses you as a pathetic slave to do it's bidding, but the gynocracy must realize that if it's servants who defend it don't get atleast little crumbs of pussy as payment, then they might resort to homosexuality as seen in your projection posts

>>33295031
>the heckin glowerino hotzinazi genetic genocidal Chad’n’Stacy joooriffic cabal
The more you type the worse you sound

>>33295148
>telling a guy I will go balls deep in him means I am straight
fukkin incels, man

>>33295148
Remember, folks, the men fucking hot women are gay but the men that never talk to women are fierce warriors

>>33295148
> it's servants who defend it don't get atleast little crumbs of pussy
But incels are a net negative to society.
You are the dregs and can’t even produce future citizens.
You defend nothing and produce nothing

>>33295251
>>33295254
>>33295210
>>33295208
love the tears of you pathetic gynoglowies

Reality
>In ever nation in the world men out earn women in every age bracket. Men dominate sports, music, art, politics, and especially business every where in the world
>Men are still the ones that must nitiate contact and must decide on marriage
>Even in the most "equal" nations, Scandinavia, men still dominate in all areas, including pay
Retarded incels

>>33285444
>>>33285876
>>33286410
>>33286936
>>33286971
>>33290721
>>33295031
>>33295148
>>33295278
>GYNOCRACY!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Reminder that Beethoven was an incel

>>33295575
Volcel, kid.
Volcel

>>33295914
He went to brothels frequently and contracted syphilis as a result. Volcels don't pay for sex, retard.

>>33295938
>duuuuur syphilis
making shit up again, I see.
he didn't have that, you gullible moron

>>33282181
Yeah, but the standards historically were "look as good as people who share similar genetics to you within walking distance of where you grew up". So basically, just bathe.

>>33295575
Wrong. Incels are failures in life that never accomplish anything.

>>33295990
>men in the 18th Century spent hours working on their clothes and wigs and used heavy makeup to stand out.
>Beau Brummel became rich and powerful because of his fashion and makeup hints for men
Your retarded ass
>duuuh they just bathed, hurrrrrrrrrrrrr

>>33296023
Incel is short for "involuntary celibate", which Beethoven was.

>>33296270
Beethoven was absolutely not a failure in life incel. Funny how you incels keep insisting that many of the greatest minds of history were incels, when obviously none of them were. Incels never accomplish anything. Incels have low intelligence. Beethoven could get laid when he wanted.

>>33296280
Don't you Redditors always claim that the term "incel" was coined by a lesbian woman struggling with relationships? If we go by her definition, Beethoven absolutely was an incel. He was an ugly manlet who coped with his inability to fuck women he was attracted to by frequenting brothels.
>Incels have low intelligence.
So you're saying that at least one problem incels have is genetic and outside of their control? Because IQ is genetic.
>Beethoven could get laid when he wanted.
Refer to my previous point. Then why did he bang whores in brothels? If he was a slayer like those Short Kings you Plebbit tourists keep making up feel-good-stories about, why was he so pathetic of a man that he had to pay for intimacy?

>>33295969
>he didn't have that, you gullible moron
yeah sure. A swarthy skinned, ugly faced subhuman suddenly starts losing his sight & hearing ability out of the blue because of some super rare congenital condition. Kek

>>33294092
>I know, I'll form my entire worldview around this literal who
Also no real person knows what A10 eyes are.

>>33296270
What an IDIOT.
He turned down opportunities to focus on his career

>>33296657
Ever hear of Scarlet Fever, you ignoramus?

>>33281693 (OP)
I know around 14 men and only 1 is in a relationship. Only retards and women can't see that the world is burning and that the sexual revolution was a mistake. Also ignore the retarded woman that's spamming the thread because she browsed inceltears too much.

>>33298191
Is the mythical woman in the room with you now?

>>33298191
>All my friends are from Indiana, so everyone is from Indiana
>All my friends smoke weed so everyone smokes weed
>All my friends are ugly so everyone is ugly
I can't imagine how hard life is for you when you are so fucking stupid.

>>33298191
Of my core group of 10 guys (I am the eleventh) aged 22-26 9 are happily married, all but one to virgins.
Does this mean that that is how EVERYONE lives, or is my particular friend group of TradCaths an outlier?

>>33298199
>>33298205
See what I mean? First it is name calling (typical of a female) and then it is denying the value of personal experience. In response to >>33298215 generally marriage rates are falling and being religious is also out of fashion. Maybe the difference is in religion (my group of friends isn't religious and we live in a secular country).

>>33298247
OP has been calling people names for days - is OP a woman, you fucking sperg?
And anyone with a brain will mock a fucking retard like you that thinks 'my experience is the only experience'
Go suck start a shotgun and improve the world

>>33298247
>marriage rates are falling
Nope.
they are already increasing in Zoomers
>religious is also out of fashion
False and silly.
There are mainstream headlines all over the world about the shocking growth of religion in Zoomers.
This is GLOBAL NEWS
>https://news.northeastern.edu/2025/06/10/gen-z-religion-trend/
covered in every country
>https://news.northeastern.edu/2025/06/10/gen-z-religion-trend/
In Scandinavia they literally can't build new Catholic churches fast enough.
How do you NOT know this?!

>>33298305
>they are already increasing in Zoomers
bullshit. It is only in rich, 'start-up', FIRE circles amongst zoomers and even that is in decline. The avg zoomer man hates women passionately and would much rather see them burn in hellfire than put up with the gynocracy-degeneracy
>>33298167
>scarlet fever
another bullshit speculation. Scarlet fever, although rare, only affected young children and not 25+ year old adults. Kek, kope even moar faggot gynocrat

>>33298162
If any of the offers he got were genuinely out of love then he wouldn't have banged whores like the incel he was.

>>33299467
I don't think you know what averages are.

>>33300483
and I think you're functionally innumerate

>>33299467
>facts are bullshit! Reality is fake! Only my opinion is real!
OP is off his meds again

>>33300519
You are the retard that had no idea religion is resurging despite global headlines, remember?

>>33281693 (OP)
Incels
>can’t get a girl to touch their pp
Also incels
>think they can conquer the world

>>33281693 (OP)
What is the advice you are looking for? Are you asking our stance on eugenics?
Actual shit thread.

>>33301714
Incels won in Afghanistan.

>>33305021
>Taliban are incels
leave your room

>>33281693 (OP)
Looks maxxing is gay and effeminate outside of getting in decent shape aka being healthy.

What matters more to women being generally funny and socially confortable. Also being competent at life, aka being able to deal with general life shit shit and situations. Even as an average looking guy or even medium-ugly guy, if you can make a woman laugh consistently and are quick witted, they find you attractive. It's a sign of intelligence (which instinctively means you theoretically would be good at handling stuff or gather money/resources)

>>33281693 (OP)
>genetic survival for all
oh god please no
medical progress already causes the human race to stagnate/degenerate a lot
we don't need more intrinsically crippled people reproducing. thanks.

>>33305504
Plebbit tourists (you):
>Being an incel has nothing to do with celibacy! It's all about the mindset! An incel is just a misogynist!
Also Plebbit tourists:
>Noooo, the Taliban may be misogynistic, but they are not incels!
Make up your mind, or better yet, go back to Plebbit.
>leave your room
I am not even inside it as of now though. I am currently on my way home from work.

>>33281693 (OP)
>Can you explain why the supposed incel revolution is not the only solution at this point
Sure1
First, there will never be an incel revolution. If they had that much willpower they'd be married
Second, the world is getting better and haas been. Promiscuity is down, religious attendance is up, there are more and more stay at home moms, and so on.
Third, incels have always been a tiny group of men and women, never enough to matter.

>>33305730
>a bunch of shit totally unrelated to the point
moron
The taliban have multiple wives, so can't be incels, you dolt.
And incels ARE all about the mindset, but only some are misogynist.
All are fucking loopy, though

>>33305760
Nice contradiction.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/1j4yhfb/lurking_incels_and_incels_read_this/

Today's "incel" is literally the same thing as a "nerd" from 10-20 years ago, just without the consoomer conotation (since normies have appropriated geek media).
At the end of the day, people treat you based on how you look - not your actions and even less your mindset.
Get lean, take care of your skin, dress well, get a new haircut, don't wear glasses in public.
Height is probably the most important aspect in your appearance, but you can't change it so worrying about it is not worth it.

>>33281704
I love how people, mainly women and basedboys, talk about "natural selection" as if the extremely artifical situation we are in rn is anything close. An incel wouldn't exist in such a situation. He would just band together with other incel males and they would simply kill the alpha with bricks and spears and rape his entire harem. But, as a civilization we have decided for the sake of stability to move passed that.

Pic related.