Former: >>33283374

>>33285758 (OP)
duty
or
freedom

Wrong thread image

>>33285763
Bombing cavemen in iraq

>>33285758 (OP)
Honestly this thread cringe. Some one, make a better one pls

Why?

>>33285768
Hi faqgot, how are you?

Is it possible to become a fuckboy after 30

>>33285772
I'm not sweetnlow

femanon have any kinks

>>33285768
What upsets me the most is the rerererecycled thread image.
I just might....

Women, what do you look for in a man?

>>33285776
If you're Leo.
Otherwise you gotta be a sugar daddy

Women would you date the smarmy faggot or the bitter faggot
>>33285696
>>33285699

>>33285788
Both at the same time

>>33285783
>rerererecycled thread image.
I've never seen the picture before as a thread image, just as a post image.

>>33285790
Kinky

>>33285785
Kind, supportive, passionate, hot, fun etc

>>33285792
I know

>>33285794
>hot
its ogre....

>>33285794
Don't girls hate kindness and niceness

>>33285776
Yeah. It's easier, you got your shit in order and your own place and money, more experience, etc.
At some point you're wasting your time, though. You ain't gettin any younger and it's past time to try finding a decent girl if you want marriage and kids.

What does it mean if someone has overweight women showing up on their for you page instead of the usual women the app pushes? Asking because I was bored and barrowed my friends phone and saw that occasionally

>>33285804
You what his phone

>>33285804
>he likes fatties
>he's skinny and fatties like him
>both
>neither

I’m horny

My ceps are so juicy

>>33285804
He likes his women with a little meat on their bones

>>33285808
Jack off

>>33285808
jork your ding dong

I'm scared of women and men.

>>33285813
Boo nigga

>>33285811
>>33285812
I don’t have one

>>33285790
You can have him, disgusting bitch

>>33285815
Make one

femanon, will you still kiss me goodnight when im sick?

>>33285816
Have who?

>>33285819
Me

>>33285815
post operation?

>>33285815
Shlick or post boobs on soc then. Do both if youre good at multi tasking

>>33285818
I’ll punch you to sleep

>>33285825
Sounds mean

>>33285785
Handsome, personality, verbose enthusiastic yapper, passion, sweetness, sentimental, a decent human being.
Ya know, the basics.

>>33285825
what if i never wake up when you do that? :(

>>33285825
...thats kinda hot

>>33285821
After you called me a disgusting bitch? I don’t want you anymore. Have yourself.

>>33285830
I called you the disgusting bitch, fucking retard. He’s the other guy.

>>33285806
Man, my lizard hated that cold ass place.
The """realistic settings""" were ass. Had to find warmer armor to even climb that shit.

/adv/ taught me women are just cute-looking douchebags who get their morals from trash TV

>>33285830
Not him

>>33285826
It’s a necessary act of violence
>>33285828
Good
>>33285829
It can be

>>33285818
I'd still kiss him goodnight if he's sick or sniffly.

Was Julius Evola lowkey spitting here? Should men intentionally shut themselves off from women and family in order to work on cultivating an inner spiritual warrior ethos?

>>33285834
Argonians are second class citizens

>>33285832
>>33285836
Ok, the playing field is leveled. You’ve both insulted me. I want you both again. I just will also hate you at the same time.

>>33285835
atoga taught me about pms, vaginismus and the fact that women get pissy before there periods, not during

>>33285841
When did I insult you

>>33285837
>Good
why would you want to kill your bf? Are you an abuser?

>>33285838
Sweet femanons are the best!

>>33285839
Sounds gay

>>33285843
I don’t know I’m confused now I’m not sober enough for this

are creampies a porn-only thing? so many sex acts seem porn-only.

>>33285847
Neva that's when

>>33285849
this is incredible bait, you really cooked with this one

>>33285839
Well, if you want to create a warrior caste, that is not only ready to defend (their family) but also to attack (foreigners, a system, start a revolution, etc) it helps to have them unattached and with nothing to lose. But he of course immediately realizes the problem with that, which is you will just immediately collapse the population and be replaced with foreigners.
Which is happening anyway since now we have neither a warrior class, nor patriarchal family structure.

>>33285849
>Is cumming in women a porn only thing

>>33285850
That’s why you’re the better one… I think

>>33285849
Yeah, generally cumming inside a woman is not recommended

>>33285855
Mwah

>>33285849
In 2025, sex is porn or OnlyFans only. Men aren't eligible for sex in real life.

State Gender
Offer up a song for the playlist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epka2clixz4

>>33285857
Can’t even tell what you two are arguing about. I feel like I’m missing lore.

>>33285841
Stop including me, fuck off

>>33285865
They hate us
Cause they ain't us

>>33285866
Fuck on, bitch
>>33285867
Yeah whatever the fuck that means

>>33285869
Oh it’s you, not this shit again

>>33285869
Oh you're the one that didn't want to smoke meth with me lol

yuh yuh yuh yuh yuh yuh yuh yuh yuh

so many ai pornfics, so little time...

>>33285871
Why are you always so angry about random shit?

>>33285877
It’s not random shit. This is my vent. I’ve also been punching things and lifting heavy shit

>>33285878
lol

Femanons, if you walked in on your boyfriend scrolling through a random woman's instagram or tiktok account, what would you do?

>>33285878
baby is having a melty

>>33285873
Tonight has come full circle
>>33285878
Fair enough

>>33285884
do a 180 and never be seen again

>>33285785
tall, handsome, nice voice, educated, only shows attention & affection to me and no one else, has decent money but not exorbitant amounts

Takopi's Original Sin finally got an anime adaptation. 10/10 manga would recommend. Nice and short.

I think it's the first anime with an actual trigger warning.

>>33285885
Yeah, I’m pathetic. Can you please leave me alone?

>>33285785
he should be the kind of man kids learn about in school in 100 years

>>33285890
kind of edgy thing only an autist would make

>>33285890
Skinny aah legs

>>33285887
insecure much?

>>33285891
Why do you have a public melty if you want to be left alone? Sounds more like attentionwhoring.

>>33285897
Only you

>>33285890
Based Stacy I wish I had a BPD gf like that

>>33285892
Yeah, careful what you wish for in this kind of place, kek.

>>33285898
NTA
Maybe you should try getting cross faded

>>33285900
I know what I said

>>33285898
what about me?

Women are you Stacey

>>33285901
Haha

>>33285905
no

>>33285907
Do you want to be Stacy

>>33285906
Might actually help you to be honest

>>33285909
define stacy

>>33285911
I think we both know what Stacy is

Why do girls moan during sex?

>>33285911
nta but 'my type'

>>33285912
I think everyone has a different idea of what makes or breaks a stacy
>>33285914
that does not narrow it down in the slightest

>>33285910
Unfunny and cruel

>>33285905
I’m Stacy’s mom

>>33285913
what noise would a penetrated person make?

>>33285913
to alert other male in the area that someone is getting pussy and it is not them

>>33285915
The bad bitch that everyone wants. The popular sorority girl who's at parties every weekend. Charm and looks that can get her out of a ticket.

>>33285916
Okay, maybe not cross faded but you seriously need to smoke a blunt or something

>>33285918
I've taken a prostate exam and I didn't moan

>>33285919
Chat is this real

>>33285922
You want another one

>>33285920
the town bike?

>>33285925
Her college days were wild

>>33285921
Can you just not

>>33285926
why would you want a girl like that?

>>33285927
Why do you keep responding if you’re so bothered by it?

>>33285930
Fair enough

>>33285928
Nta
She's fun to be around

>>33285931
If you don’t wanna do any of that, have a cup of tea and a nap cause goddamn you’re very high strung

>>33285928
Some men will put up with it. What's your definition of a Stacy.

>>33285933
Ok thanks

>>33285890
Did she lose her eyball

>>33285928
most men here are failed normalfags that think they'll get the same energy years after the fact

>>33285937
Are you actually chill now ? Lol

>>33285940
Sure yeah

Women do you have a nice personality

>>33285945
sometimes

>>33285945
I have an okay personality

>>33285947
Elaborate

Why does no social media have normal people

>>33285948
What prevents it from being good

>>33285952
Because normal people have lives and need to spend time talking off social media

Being an incel means you failed as a man. So either improve or suck it up, buttercups.

>>33285956
One day I’ll die

>>33285954
I like to be mean sometimes, and I’m not empathetic enough

>>33285956
also, how do you feel about the fact that you will never be as manly and hot as my husbando?

>>33285952
because normal people don‘t feel the need to be active on social media
>>33285950
whats there to elaborate? sometimes I am a decent human being, sometimes I am a cunt, just like most people

>>33285945
I'm a bitch

State gender

How much has your first love influenced your taste in opposite gender?

>>33285960
Why's he getting his nip pinched. Seems gay.

>>33285958
Cant wait for that day <3

>>33285963
F. My taste in the opposite gender influenced my first love, not the other way around.

>>33285956
stop trying to label my post-breakup disgust of women as "incel"
cause no, I did fucked the pussy- it just wasn't worth it. women are bitches

>>33285967
What is your taste in the opposite gender

>>33285964
Shut the fuck up you disgusting, useless incel. Why are you avoiding my question?

>>33285963
M
Maybe a little bit but if so it's minor enough that I don't notice. She had shoulder length hair though which I've loved since.

>>33285952
they're all married with children.

women why do you have such issue with the way men live

>>33285969
Yeah, sure, you lil faggot. Blame it all on women. You narrow minded faggots will never escape your own curse. Its your behavior that made women turn into bitches. But you are all wallowing in your self disgusting pity to have some self awareness

>>33285971
What was the question I didn't give enough of a shit to remember. Also is this the guy that talks about military gear on YouTube
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jPNmuSKHGGc

>>33285977
women literally ahhhh lol I'm a scorpion on this one

>>33285965
Oh okay

>>33285963
M
I realized how good I truly had it after she left me, and how awful of a person I am

State gender
How's your facial recognition

>>33285983
F, 1A

>>33285983
M
I consistently confuse Mark Wahlberg and Matt Damon for one another.

armchair warriors military fetishists still on that war drum
it seems strange there's so much of it in atoga
maybe it's the women who want wars all along?

>>33285986
Lol same

Girls, how would you feel about a guy that just wants to hook up?

A girl hit me up at the gym, I wasn't feeling her vibes, she cute but she's also 5'3 and looks like a teenager (shes 24) and seems a little too childish, extroverted and wild for my taste. We were talking about family and friends and I told her I was new to the state and she's a local, she mentioned relationships and I said something like "I'm not really looking for a relationship right now. I mean im a guy I'm down to hook up but other then that Im just settling into this new state." She just laughed and brushed past that hook up part. I was trying to exit the conversation but she gave me her number and told me to call her if I wanted to hang out.

I'm 32 and just exited my shameful exited my neet part of my life. Is she trying to hook up or is she hoping for an actual date? I dont want to be a fag and just hook up with her and never call her again.

>>33285983
M, I have never confused faces as long as I've lived. I've always picked up on people's names and faces and schedules and odd routines so well that I could tell you when you could find them at the vending machine at 3 o'clock.

>>33285989
>I mean im a guy
Bro, run

>>33285989
she want the fugg. it's how she steals life essences. you can just fugg her, but then u have less e-tank for rest of time. choose

rly makes u think

Men, thoughts on this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rf8YebDBcbY

>>33285976
Women fill their place with garbage and go into perpetual debt by spending 150% of what they make, while men are literally supposed to save up and buy a home and transportation because otherwise they're unworthy of a relationship and unworthy of reproduction.

>>33285997
wait until women realize men pair-bond via eye contact.

>>33285997
I'm not good at this.

>>33285997
Crushing video, don't post it again.

>>33285997
It makes me uncomfortable and my ex's told me I need to work on it because they noticed I don't ever really make eye contact.
Last thread or the one before that I said I do practice eye contact with videos but I didn't know there were actual practice videos like this.
Anyways, it makes my chest feel funny. Literally makes me shiver.

>>33285997
>Eye contact practice
Useless slop. You don't stare intently at another person for hours like an autist

>>33285995
not really since parents aren‘t magically making perfect choices either, evident by *gestures around widely*
parents might have married mainly for financial gains and power gains in the past, and now we have a hoard of greedy, entitled, selfish and insatiable cunts all over the planet
now THAT really makes you think

Why do I want to creampie a crossdressing femboy so badly?

>>33286005
nta
During sex my ex's would regularly request it.

>>33286007
Might be gay

>>33286005
you may not like it, but this is attractive extrovert POV

>>33286008
That's inauthentic then. I got the impression the video isn't about exercising your kink

>>33286007
They look rather fertile.

>>33286007
degrading a mentally ill man on the brink of suicide is the only thing thats still lower than you in dignity and can thus give you a sense of superiority and fleeting dominance and power over your peers

>>33286007
Because you haven't been around women much so M-F model is too foreign for you to fantasize about

>>33285997
annoying music
I don't understand the purpose of the video.
some of them are very pretty but overall it just reminds me how different it felt to look into the eyes of my past gf- who may not have been as pretty, perhaps objectively- compared to the soulless nothing I feel looking at these strangers.
also wow I find men's faces are naturally repulsive if I have to look right at them and they're smiling.

>>33286005
that's where you're wrong

>>33286011
>Practicing eye contact with affection has no crossover with eye contact during sex
Okay

>>33285982
grim

>>33286007
you the mega gay and you want us to tell you you are mega gay with acceptance but really you're just a creepy boy-butt plunderer

>>33285978
Your brain is too fried to remember a question I just asked? And I know who tf he is you stupid faggot.

>>33285997
>>33286018
me realizing the reason i hate socialization is that it makes me feel like a teacher and i hate teachers because i hated school.

>>33286016
imagine wanting to drink your coffee and thus comes in for a kiss

>>33285979
Do you claim its not true? You have no part in the bitchification of the women, you low t scum?

>>33286018
I dont get the point of this
is this supposed to be hard? it‘s just useless since you don‘t make eye contact like that with random people, only with those you genuinely want to be close with

>>33285997
>insecure people trying not to cry
>retards holding in farts
> cuties being art
eye contact is fun too bad I'm in the second camp, beans for dinner!

>>33286018
Female anons do you look like this

>>33286027
It's a normie gaslighting. There is nothing else to it
>"Dude just stare at another person on the screen and feel the influx of confidence!"

>>33286023
Ok fine I don't care about your husbando
And I wasn't asking if you knew him I was making sure that I got the right guy. No need to be upset

>eye contact is easy which is why I never ask anyone out
yeah ok bro

>>33286031
Still, you should consider suicide. It will make my day better

>>33286032
Wanna make prolonged eye contact bro
For practice haha

>>33286030
how is that supposed to make one feel confident? i don‘t get it
whatever
>>33286029
not really, we have similar eye/mouth shape but the nose is different and the colors are all off

>>33285799
noe, they just want you to be invested in them AND attractive, not just nice alone. they in practice will take a bad person if he's attractive before a nice unattractive one many many times until their pussy is loose, because men are of course completely replicable. Then they hit the wall, and finally give mr nice guy his turn because now he's actually useful, now is when having a relationship finally matters to them for once, it isn't just chasing feelings anymore. then divorce him for half his things because they don't actually love him just needed someone to clean up. they have no loyalty, no one has ever told them to have discipline or any control over their emotions and make the dumbest women decisions ever that fuck up everyone's life.

they abuse you if you are obsessed with them (as its power over you, and so abuse it), so you have to become attractive to make them obsessed with you instead. Men are the only ones actually capable of having principals and doing the right thing / being responsible, we have to be the ones to treat them right, because they don't know how to stop being shallow unprincipled people.

women hate doing the right thing, hate doing what they're supposed to or any duty, the thought of doing something you ought to, or any kind of standard at all its like slavery to them, its their oppressor putting them back in the old chains. this is real btw, they're openly completely against nature. they have become evil and corrupted and their minds are very perverted, they are not pure of heart, they are two faced, crying crocodile tears over things they know just as well as you is bullshit, they agree to hate truth and wield lies.

not all women belongs to this kind of spirit, but even the "good" ones will still betray you and take half your things if things get difficult anyways. they're women. they actually would do that. However good they think they are, they're not so good as to actually do the right thing.

>>33286034
I already do daily. What's crawled into your panties that's gotten you in such a bad mood

>>33286037
Insane the lengths people will go to seethe

Women, do you have a minimum requirement for side profiles?

>>33286038
You do that daily and you werent able to actually finish the job? What a pathetic failure. Promise me you will do it properly today, please <3

Women thoughts on ISIS

>>33286042
I might do it later but you make me not want to just to spite you

women be like:
>god, where have all the good men gone?

while men be like:
>I feel like she's my soul mate, but I can't shake the feeling she'll kill the kids when I'm not home one day

>>33286041
yeah, I mean, maybe try not looking like this

Women will you kill the kids when I'm not home one day

>>33286044
If you do it, make sure to stream it first, sweetie. Also, post link here and mention me in your suicide :3

>>33286050
Ok mommy. Can I hit that femcel pussy before I go

>>33286043
idk man, with all the propaganda I feel like there is no knowing who is who anymore and have an informed opinion
>>33286049
I mean, I would if we were invaded and the choice is between drowning them or letting some subhuman hoards have their way with our daughters before they kill them anyways

Women, if your country was being invaded and your husband wanted to join the army would you let him. What about for an overseas war?

>>33286055
Im too far away, darling. Isnt you paralized grandma around to help you out? :"(

>>33286062
if he thought it is the right thing to do, sure
I would prefer he doesn‘t, especially not oversee but it‘s his life after all

>>33286065
Babe you are the paralyzed grandma. And you know what they say ain't no mountain high enough to keep my love from me

>>33286068
No worries, bunny. If your grandma isnt around, you can use that whore of a mom you have. Also, how fat is her ass? Asking for a friend

me and the femanons ITT

>>33286070
You tell me mommy. Turn that thing round so I can give it a smack.

>>33286070
NTA but moid hands

>>33285758 (OP)
Women and men :
Should I ask a friend to take photos of me for online dating ? Now I regret no agreeing when stranger photograph asked me to take my photo

Are women real

>>33286041
The real question is whether or not there are any moids brave enough to post their side profiles

>>33286074
What country are you from

>>33286072
Is that retarded brain of yours so fried that you cant comprehend the words I write. Poor darling :(

who is david geffen?

>>33286074
M
I dont know

>>33286076
Here's mine

>>33286073
Are you saying my insults are so good they seem written by a moid? Daamn

>>33286078
I'm more of a kinesthetic learner, I'll get hands on with you and understand better

>>33286076
>A people-pleasing cuck who is being told what to do
>"Brave"

>>33286079
Producer of little shop of horrors and the bettlejuice tv series.

I'd like Retards for $500 please

>>33286062
Nag but you dont get a choice if you're country gets invaded.
You just get conscripted and after a few weeks of training you're thrown on the frontline to clog up thr enemies tank treads or to catch an artillery shell.

>>33286085
who is meyer lansky?

>>33286077
France. Why ?

>>33286037
nta but good post.

Women are just too entitled. It's a multi-generational thing with no explicit origin, unless you believe the biblical account. The things that shape a man from a wretch into a respectable being are nowhere to be found among the female population. Women gamble once with genetics, then if they fail that gamble they have an entire societal framework that supports them because they are innately valuable in many ways. something like 100% of women are smarter than the bottom 50% of men, and 0% of women are smarter than the other top 50% of men, which makes dealing with them an endless exercise in patience and charitability for anyone above an IQ of 97.

Their intelligence is refreshing precisely because it's a rare glimpse into what communities would be like if the most retarded of men suddenly vanished, yet simultaneously a mild form of torture for any elite or above average kind of man. This leads to the most common kind of socialization being a weird "masculine dimorphism" where the provider "brother" archetype competes with a lover "father" archetype for the reproductive right. Two vastly different strategies for men result in something I call "the devil's threesome" wherein each women needs two men to have a healthy socialization, in a society that explicitly values monogamy.

Simply put women aren't lovers or providers. They're babysitter-gatherers that are overtuned toward societal cues.

>>33286089
Your English is dogshit but at least you aren't brown. Also hello again croissant fuck how are you doing.

>>33286074
M
Yes

found this pic of anon

>>33286091
Eh, that's not nice if you to track me and ask me this for no good reason.
Also, there is no crime in being brown (which "brown" also ?)

>>33286083
Will you be down to learn that youre a piece of shit and you should kill yourself immediately?

>>33286096
I'll shoot myself only if I can shoot in you first

still thinking of femanon's tits from probably 8 years ago.

>>33286098
the hell

>>33286098
They ruined her life, unlucky

>>33286095
Not exactly tracking down you put yourself out there, I just remembered you.
What's wrong with a bit of pleasantries

>>33285758 (OP)
Attention: men
Do not think any woman will ever love you. Do not make the mistake of believing any woman cares about you. I have had gfa since age 3. Women do not love you. They are good at convincing you they do. The sad reality is that women don't know what it means to lov we someone. If you heed my warning it will save you a lot of pain

>>33285801
>you got your shit in order and your own place and money, more experience, etc.
lol

>>33286100
How do tits ruin someones life?

>>33286102
I'm gonna be real, I'm not taking advice from someone who spells so shit.

>>33286104
Idk

>>33286102
>t. gf broke up after finding CP on PC which means she never loved unconditionally, is incapable of forgiveness, has zero loyalty and is a heartless monster

>>33286097
>shoot in you first
I hope by that you mean kill me
If thats the case, Im down. If its the other way around, Im telling you again, that retarded whore of a mom you have is free of charge.

>>33286101
Yeah okay but I prefer to stay Anonymous (unless you have a track/way to meet good women ). Yeah I post too much on /adv/ because I'm too much and incel

>>33286108
Kill you with kindness
I'd love the hate right out of you and plap you day and night. Then we can raise a big happy family together.

>>33286090
ur using the statistic wrong. its not 50% above or 50% below, that implies there are no genius and retard women, there are, its just 100x more genius/retard men, and our retards/geniuses that reach further extremes.

there are many extremely beautiful women, and its not uncommon for women to be pretty, but not very many extremely good looking men, but there are a fewer number. Likewise, there are many wise men, its not so uncommon for a man to be a bit wise, but has anyone even ever heard of a wise woman? Don't get me wrong, there are smart women, but I think wisdom just doesn't interest them.

>>33286109
You are still anonymous and besides I'll still notice you regardless of whether or not I say hi

>>33286102
>They are good at convincing you they do.
No they're not.

Where to meet clingy gf

>>33286117
be attractive / find a virgin

>>33286110
Is this what you are dreaming of at night, you poor little incel. Your dream will never come true, so might as well kys to ease the pain. Either that or start fucking your grandma :*

>>33286111
what makes someone wise?

>>33286121
It will come true though. I'll pin you under me and you'll be embroiled in ambrosial delight with every thrust of my large cock.

>>33286122
hard to say, but being capable of going against the crowd and having a sincere love for truth helps.

>>33286113
Yeah but maybe at some point I will want to post a pic without the face. But indeed anyway it's not a big deal, have a good day. You're from america ?

>>33286126
Not like I'll get in your way just watch from the sidelines
No I'm from the worst country on earth (Canada)

>>33285776
If you weren't a fuckboy before 30, you don't have what it takes to be a fuckboy after 30.

>>33286125
if you meet someone and you end up having a conversation, what morals, values and takes would someone have that would make you think wow, this person is wise?

>>33286122
foresight.

>>33286125
>hard to say
So you don't even know what the fuck you are talking about

I tweaked my back

>>33286133
This nigga tweakin

>>33286134
Yes bro it feels like a blossom of fire is in my spine

>>33286124
Youre a delusional faggot and that shit will never happen, you will never lay a finger on a woman that isnt that retarded grandma of yours. But hey, you can close your eyes while you fuck her and imagine its me, that will ease the pain somehow I guess lol. If the pain is still there, please consider suicide. Youre a worthless faggot with a miserable life, its not getting better. The old, stale grandma pussy is the only thing you will ever get, loser

>>33286137
Don't talk down on yourself like that my beautiful wife. That pussy of yours is luscious and I love fucking it.

>>33286138
See, you already got it. Good boy. Also, dont ever take your meds

>>33286139
Don't need meds you heal me

>>33286007
Just find a woman. Also the ONLY thing guys can do better than girls is bj. That's it.

>>33286131
even the bible says wisdom is hard to find, and thats a book with a lot of wisdom.

>>33286129
someone who has experienced things, and tested things, and sees things differently than most. like if people say "hustle hustle hustle", and that person that says to take it easy or you'll destroy your body, he might be saying something wise. I think wisdom is connected to virtue, like humility and lowliness in the previous example. its a path or principal that works in practice, usually counter intuitive or not obvious in some way, or backwards from what is commonly stated.

my dog trusts me as if I was superman
my gf made fun of my machine I made to make her homemade dippin dots, kicks me out of my own bed and calls me a simp
dog followed me
by the end of tomorrow I'll be single. women, why do you have to suck

>>33286129
Wisdom is none of those things. Wisdom is basically the capacity of a person to have their perceptions of the world accurately reflect the way the world actually works. If a wise person sees a fire, they put it out if they're able, because they know the fire will grow. If they can't put it out, they're watching it burn things down from a safe distance. The wise person knows how things came to be the way they are, and why they will/won't change, but more importantly they use this knowledge for the sake of strategic action. A wise person packs an umbrella today because it generally rains at that particular time of year in that region.

>>33286145
>>33286149
Niggas stop with your bullshit. Wisdom is a mastery of life, simple as. Like there are people who are good in math, for instance. Wisdom is just the same but with life as a subject

>>33286147
>kicks me out of my own bed and calls me a simp
You shouldn't have acted like a simp

Men have declared spiritual jihad on women and it shows as they slowly begin to lose it. This is it anons, the real gender war has begun, not the fake one with countless pronouns that is being shilled everywhere in the media, but the real gender war between man and woman.
Women are about to learn a harsh lesson.

Don't talk to women, don't help them, don't ask them out, don't have dating apps, don't interact with them. If a woman approaches you be nice and respectful but do not flirt or overtly joke, treat them as an equal man and then leave after the reason for the conversation is over. If a girl comes up to you and flirts kindly turn her down, if she asks you out suddenly say no thank you, don't make up a reason she only has agency because of some external reason not because she likes you. Be vague when talking about your life or weekend plans, anything you do or do with them like hooking up will be picked apart and analyzed by her and her online friends. You are a traitor and not helping anyone if you fall for their tricks.
If men can't display a modicum of power over society, this world and women, then I guess they don't hold much power at all.

>>33286149
have you never seen a woman pack for vacation with a toddler? has your mom never told you to brush your teeth so you don’t get cavities? told you to eat your veggies to stay healthy? told you it’s bed time because sleep is crucial to development? you‘ve never seen a woman turn down desert because she knows her looks are her capital? put on sunscreen? planned a wedding? how much more foresight do you want?

>>33286102
Been dating twins for years, pretty sure they love me. And if it turns out they don’t, I’ll be more than okay.

>>33286149
>>33286151
nah i feel like wisdom is separated from intelligence, because the distinct-ness of wisdom is shown by the fact that intelligent people do very unwise things. a good way to think of it is, if a genius does drugs, his genius won't save himself from what happens to people that do drugs. He can (potentially) spiral down just like anyone and ruin his life.

a genius can be moved by crowds and take bribes. but even an idiot is wise if despite all his stupidity, if he does not do things that lead him to ruin.

>>33286151
actually yeah, it definitely is a lot of "generally knowing how life works"

>>33285758 (OP)
>>33263842
Where can I make lots of female friends ? I love friendship with females and I maybe we can start becoming romantic with one of them.
Also, were can I go in vacation to meet lots of women ?

>>33286160
Genius in your example is some retard who was mastering a certain skill that has nothing to do with life. Obviously it won't make his life any better but it'll make him exceptional in his field.

Meanwhile if someone is wise that means he redirected his intelligence to mastering life's core principles

>>33286169
what are lifes core principles?

>>33286171
Like "Don't sweat over things beyond your control", "Recognize your agency", "See the grey areas" etc

>>33286174
so basic stoicism? and why do you think no woman has ever understood and implemented that? can you consider the possibility that the ones that do embody wisdom might not be the ones you see being loud on social media or be where you usually interact with women?

>>33286156
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_clich%C3%A9

I'd argue that having wisdom is different from being wise. Wisdom entails a certain strength in *doing* wise things. Saying not to smoke is having wisdom, not smoking is being wise.

>>33286160
>even an idiot is wise if despite all his stupidity, if he does not do things that lead him to ruin.
well put.

>>33286174
What happens is that because wisdom is so valuable it is spammed all over every culture.The problem is that a lot of it isn't carried out because it's unpleasant or antiquated despite being grounded in truth.

>>33286178
Personally I would say intelligence is the foundation since it is required to understand and pattern recognize, wisdom is knowing how to apply the understood and observed concepts to your own life or reality in general, self mastery is the ability to actually live according to your wisdom.

There really is nothing for me here

>>33286171
>>33286169
lets read the book of wisdom to learn about wisdom:

Perverse thoughts separate a man from God,
Wisdom refuses to enter a soul devoted to evil
or to dwell in a body indebted to sin.
Wisdom is a spirit filled with kindness,

ch2

These people said to themselves with deluded reasoning:
“Brief and burdensome is our life,
and there is no remedy when death summons,
nor has anyone been known to have returned[a] from the netherworld.
2 For we were born as the result of happenstance,
and afterward we shall be as though we had never existed.
The breath in our nostrils is merely a puff of smoke,
and our reason is a spark enkindled by the beating of our hearts.
3 Once it is extinguished, our body will turn to ashes,
and our spirit will melt away like empty air.
4 Our name will be forgotten with the passing of time,
and no one will remember our deeds.
Our life will pass away like the wisps of a cloud
and be scattered like mist
pursued by the rays of the sun
and overwhelmed by its heat.
5 For our lifetime is but a passing shadow,
and there is no way to recall our end
because it is sealed, and no one can bring it back.

A Challenge To Rejoice
6 “Come, therefore, let us enjoy the good things of life,
and use creation fully, with youthful ardor.
7 Let us take our fill of expensive wine and perfumes
and allow no flower of spring to escape our notice;
8 let us crown ourselves with rosebuds before they wither.[b]
9 Let none of us fail to share in our wanton doings;
let us leave traces of our revelry everywhere,
since this is our portion, this our lot.

>>33286176
>and why do you think no woman has ever understood and implemented that?
I am nta. I don't think that

(i guess these are the unwise ones?)

“Let us oppress the righteous man who is in need;[d]
let us not spare the widow
or show respect for the venerable gray head of the aged.
11 Rather, let our might serve as the yardstick of justice,
for what is feeble has proved itself useless.
12 Let us wait in hiding for the righteous man,
for he inconveniences us and opposes our deeds.
He reproaches us for our sins against the law
and accuses us of failures in what we have been taught.
13 He claims to have knowledge of God
and refers to himself as a child of the Lord.
14 He has become for us a reproof to our manner of thinking,
and the very sight of him is a source of pain to us.
15 For his life is unlike that of others,
and his ways are just as different.[e]
16 He considers us to be counterfeit,
and he steers clear of our ways as unclean.
He proclaims the final end of the righteous as blessed,
and he boasts that God is his Father.
17 Let us see if what he says is true,
and let us probe what will happen at the conclusion of his life.
18 For if the righteous man is a child of God,[f] he will defend him
and deliver him from the power of his enemies.
19 Let us test him with insults and torments
so that we may be able to measure his gentleness
and ascertain the depths of his forbearance of evil.
20 Let us condemn him[g] to a shameful death,
since, according to his words, he will be protected.”

Such was their reasoning, but they were wrong,
for their own malice blinded them.
22 They did not discern the hidden plans of God,
or hope for the recompense of holiness
or recognize the reward destined for innocent souls.
23 For God created us to be immortal
and formed us in the image of his own nature.[i]
24 But as a result of the devil’s envy, death entered the world,
and those who follow him experience it.

>>33286183
>lets read the book of wisdom to learn about wisdom:
No. Books are nothing but a mental clatter. Pure wisdom comes from within

does your opinion of someone read if you find out they don't read?

>>33286187
found the non-reader

>>33286183
so nihilistic hedonism is wisdom according to the bible? and wouldn‘t that be exactly what all those girls on social media are doing that enjoy being alive by eating yummy food, going on vacation to beautiful places, spend time with their friends dancing and singing and having a good time with chad? and wouldn‘t then all the coomers that watch porn be excempt due to impure thoughts?

>>33286184
I see

>>33285758 (OP)
Women would you have a kid with a black person

>>33286188
mine does. particularly if they try to give some sort of explanation as to why they don't read, like--wisdom comes from within, or, i was traumatized by my teachers, etc.

>>33286183
>>33286185
so basically the jews

>>33286191
im pretty sure those are the unwise ones, and the wise ones are the ones that pursue righteousness. kind of surreal the way it rings with today. guess its always been like this

>>33286127
My brother wanted to go live there in the wild, in a cabin, like a trappeur, like some old french did back in the days

>>33286199
maybe it has nothing to do with feminism and modernity but with being fallen and human, huh
also
>book about wisdom
>yaps about how not to be instead of telling you how to be

also why the heck do people say its pride that caused the devil to fall, it LITTERALLY says it right here it was envy. like its what i thought from my own reasoning, but to see it said in the freaking bible this whole time, my gosh

>>33286201
maybe you should try reading the whole thing lel... its a book it'll probably take a while to get to it

Beer now or later

>>33286190
He is right. Books are another person's thoughts. Do you have any original thoughts of your own?

Why are so many women against the idea of an older woman dating a slightly younger man?is it the hypergamy or just the spitefulness at other people having different standards?

>>33286203
the root of envy is pride because envy is a symptom of entitlement and entitlement is a symptom of pride

>>33286205
no one has any original thoughts of their own, you twit. reading at least indicates that you value thinking.

>>33286188
sure, but most people that read read stuff on par with scrolling yt shorts, so what one reads is more important
there is people that don‘t read that are much wiser than people that read a lot

So this is about how women can’t be wise or what

>>33286208
>reading at least indicates that you value thinking.
Not really.

>>33286212
apparently, yeah

>>33286208
It's not about originality but internalization. If you read someone's thoughts you might misinterpret shit but if you arrived to it yourself that means it's truly yours

Women, I just want you to be happy. So why are you mad?

>>33286214
Well, I have nothing to add, carry on. Thanks for the recap

>>33286215
it's about values. you do what value. if you read books, you're probably a curious person. i'm never going to be able to come to my own conclusions about, say, the making of the english working class, but fortunately for me there's a whole 900+ page tome written about it that i can go through because i'm still curious about it.

>>33286216
I‘m not mad

>>33286218
>i'm never going to be able to come to my own conclusions about, say, the making of the english working class
Why not? You learn the factual base, think about shit, draw connections, arrive to conclusions. It's so easy now with ChatGPT too

>>33286217
>carry on
no thanks, he ignores every post giving examples of women being wise by his own definition, ignores asking to not just think in black and white based on hus own bias despite talking about wisdom being the capability to consider grey areas, etc
what a waste of time, lol

>>33286213
That's only if you don't really engage with what you're reading.

>>33286212
My portion of the discussion is about the difference between having wisdom and actually doing wise things. Because of society handing out wisdom freely to every educable person, people are often fooled into believing they are greater than they are and this often culminates in entitlement, but their actions accurately reflect their level of wisdom. unwise people do unwise things, wise people do wise things.

>>33286216
Is she mad, happy or bored?

>>33286222
Oh, yeah. That sucks, typical incel stuff
>>33286225
Yeah I kinda read your posts a bit, pretty measured

>>33286228
>Incel

Why cant u like incels

>>33286224
It‘s a very prideful take that only reads to feel superior, it has no humility for the wisdom someone else might have that has lived a different life. It does not take into consideration that reading something does not automatically mean agreeing with it but thinking about it critically and with an open mind. I agree that it might be wise to only read if your own thoughts dry up, give yourself time to digest before piling on more. But it has definitely happened to me before that reading something helped make order in my head because someone put a chaotic concept into elegant wording.

>>33286230
Idk. The hate isn’t principled, it’s reactionary. Very childish and cringe

>>33286228
I take back that it‘s a waste of time, it made me think about what my own definition of wisdom is, so thats nice

>>33285890
Nice PowerPoint presentation

>>33286236
That’s good, glad you got something out of it, clarity of opinion on concept. Was it at least fun?

State gender
Who is/was the best incel in the world?

M
My vote goes to Marc Lepine. I hope he is happy in Heaven, RIP.

>>33286206
Nobody actually cares

>>33286238
I was getting groceries, so it was entertaining, yes. It gave me something to think about when driving and clarity of concept always feels satisfying

>>33286239
Me

>>33286241
Nice

>>33286207
i saved what you said cuz I want to chew on it more, but in this case due to the special situations of angels, I disagree.

angels have no temptation to sin, so the only way they can do something bad, is by deliberately and purely intellectually going out of their way to do something evil. I think they did it because they believe it to be in their self interest, as there is no evil cause that can motivate one to be evil, when it would cost you eternal torment. I mean, even a good person would not die for even a righteous cause, if it meant he'd be tortured for all eternity; much less would an angel randomly try to ruin his heaven over a feeling he is not even tempted to engage in, after God did literally nothing wrong because he's perfectly righteous and would do everything that they'd all very much agree with. Like im pretty sure God really is actually innocent and getting screwed over.

the only thing that makes sense is it is somehow in their self interest for some angels to ruin everything, so they choose to do what is sinful to get it. maybe it was like 1% better for them or something in some way they preferred, and so decided to ruin things.

the reason why i think its envy as the means, is because you can envy someone who has done nothing wrong to you, and all kinds of sin follows; if it were pride, they'd just be wrong.

There's lowlyness/haughtiness, and humility/arrogance, which are 2 different aspects of pride. Humility/arrogance is essentially "being accurate" about yourself, and not going above what you are. whereas lowliness is what people typically think of as humility, which is where you y'know, act below what you are. This is done so as to not demand tribute from anyone because you are oh so important, which is itself a kind of arrogance. I don't think the angels were simply "inaccurate", that would be really freaking lame, and bad writing on the part of God. I'd say pride is what comes from envy.

>>33286213
nta but the problem with thinking for yourself (some of the time) is that very often you lack crucial bits of information that would radically change the characteristic of engagement. Modern-ish people are very much used to having everything "pre-screened" beforehand, in a way that makes them "out of touch" with how things come to be the way they are, while also safely preventing them from directly accessing the negative repercussions of the information deficit.

If you have enough to get by, you don't really need any more than that. but if there's a particular missing portion you're unaware of, you might realize you've veered off in a very peculiar direction without noticing. Education is good enough that most people don't have to deal with this issue, but it is certainly a reality of the way things seem to work. We generally aren't sure how wrong we are about things until they've been tested through engagement or examined by a fresh set of eyes or different perspective.

Basically, if you were giga intelligent angel, and your life would be 1% better in some way you preferred, because its fun sadistically tormenting humans for all eternity, despite the increased sufferings you experience yourself. rather than stay worshiping God, would you betray God and make up lies about him to get it to happen? I think that would be a pretty good reason to do something knowingly foolish like willingly envy God, which they were not tempted to do, it was probably just rational to them. maybe they prefer it.

>>33286226
NTA, looks mildly amused.

>>33286232
Are you mentally 15 and want to be a soldier boy?

>>33286226
happy? depends on how her voice sounds

>>33286248
Has anyone ever gone as far as to want to do a look more like?

>>33286244
intelligence would realize that being the one on top of the hierarchy, being god that sits on the throne is the best place to be, regardless of morals or sins

temptation follows the realization that someone has it better than you (more authority in this case), and to come to that realization you don‘t have to already be weak to temptation or envious, it can at first be nothing but a neutral observation that over time leads to asking hey, why would god be the one sitting on the throne and not me or someone else?

which then leads to comparison, asking if god is doing something that makes him more worthy of the throne than an angel
maybe the angels realized that since they are angels they are just as pure and innocent as god, so the only difference is rank and authority but it‘s not based on actually being more pure or more innocent, it just is for the sake of hierarchy
that then might breed resentment - why him and not me?
resentment and envy that he basically just lucked out when roles were handed out, the rest follows from that

maybe one time god did something they did not fully agree on and that was the final nail in the coffin that made them think they might be even more pure and innocent and wise and intelligent than god himself, so the only right thing to do in that case would be to try to overthrow god and take his place

>>33286216
Because I just woke up from a dream where I had a husband and we were some sort of monster/vampire slayers and it was really cool.

>>33286243
I don‘t get it

>>33286248
The fallen angels thought they'd get away with it.

>>33286194
My kid will end up black regardless, so sure.

>>33286252
No, I want my mom to hug me
>>33286259
Idk the pic wasn’t relevant

>>33286255
... you're right i said it poorly.

they think its more enjoyable tormenting us in hell that loving God in heaven, thats why the devil did this.

>>33286262
lol, ok, I was confused

>>33286264
Maybe this one is funnier

>>33286155
>if she asks you out
I somehow don't think that is very likely to happen.

>>33286265
thats goes deep, yes

>>33286265
>tfw no textdick to suck

>>33286268
Nice, hopefully redeemed

>>33286262
I can be your mommy

>>33286271
yeah

>>33286272
Thanks but no

>>33286239
>Who is/was the best incel in the world?
F
Isaac Newton. He invented gravity. Before that, people just floated away.

>>33286194
>Women would you have a kid with a black person
I'm black, so no. Mejorar la raza.

>>33286062
>Women, if your country was being invaded and your husband wanted to join the army would you let him. What about for an overseas war?
It wouldn't be my decision, but I would have to support him. I wish I had a WW2 bf who I would write letters to and then suddenly stop getting letters only to find him at my doorstep asking me to marry him.

>>33286273
Feel like I remember that image

>>33286277
I likely sent it to you before, I still find it fascinating, it‘s one of very few I kept after deleting the 23k pic
gives me much to think about every time I look at it

>>33286276
As a black lady, how do you feel about the phenomenon of "divesting"? i.e. Black women choosing white men while also putting down black men.

What's the average age of /atoga/?

>>33286287
Mentally? 'bout tree fiddy.

>>33286284
Yeah, i have vague memories of it
I tore almost everything out besides stuff like this

Gender
What inspires you? What brings you joy?

>>33286289
Yeah, I kept the taken photos too ofc, just got rid of everything else
it felt cathartic but also kind of destabilizing lol

>>33286292
M
4chan

>>33286292
clussy

>>33286294
Why destabilizing?

>>33286297
I wasn‘t entirely sure at first but then I realized it‘s because it was like a road map of way points that marked the path I had walked and even though I don‘t need it anymore, it feels a bit like dissolving the ground under my feet to wipe it clean

>>33286292
f
self mastery
self mastery

>>33285785
He'll look rough when he loses his thin blonde hair and gets wrinkly. Then they're all like "ick, that skinny creep talked to me."

>>33286299
I see. Do you feel lost without it?

What are some good hobbies for an ADD guy if I want to also meet girls? Should I try water colouring or sculpting? I have zero experience in arts

>>33286292
M
Not much to both. Sports I guess. I’ve kinda given up, going through the motions

>>33286305
I catch myself feeling off when I automatically want to reach for it and it‘s just not there anymore. But it‘s ok.

>>33286257
the angels were certainly devoid of temptation, temptation is not innate to a being. in fact if you think about it, the evil temptation we have itself comes from these spirits, and we are not going to suppose spirits are tempting their own spirits, right?

you need temptation or "foolishness" to make it work, and i just don't think angels are tempted, and i doubt they are foolish, and 100% certainly not foolish in any obvious way. it just has to be a calculated self serving decision, no one would do it otherwise.

you're kind of making me realize though, pride and envy are very similar things. pride is acting above your station, envy is wanting above your station; but I think it makes more sense to want, which leads to the act. Also where there is envy, there comes every kind of evil, but pride does not so naturally inspire every kind of evil.

>>33286301
Please elaborate?

>>33286260
i doubt they are so stupid. its God.

>>33286309
Guess that’s where we differ huh

>>33286314
how so?

>>33286308
Sports at least used to inspire you? What changed?

>>33286310
well I laid out how noticing alone can lead to temptation, to me, temptation just means being tempted to do something you are not supposed to do, you can have very valid reasons for temptation
and I think anyone that caves to temptation felt in that moment that their reason to fold was valid enough

>>33286316
For me there is nothing to reach for, just loss

men, what are some red flags about you that females should take notes of?

>>33286324
I never go outside

>>33286312
well to me neither intelligence nor wisdom mean much without self mastery, but they are prerequisites
seeing people master themselves even temporarily or partially is the most inspiring thing I can imagine and so it brings me joy to encounter it and even more joy if I can master myself, although I do struggle with it a lot still, but I‘ll keep trying

>>33286324
They're rude. Out of all the awful things people have said to me over my life most of it has come from women

>>33286317
Idk. It’s just passive consumption now
>>33286324
I have no drive to do anything with my life

are penises more sensitive when u need to pee

he/him

>>33286324
My mental illnesses

>>33286324
I don't go to the gym and have no close friends.

>>33286331
No

>>33286324
autism

>>33286327
>>33286329
>>33286330
none of you brainless faggots understood my question. What are some MALE RED FLAGS that I should look out for???

>>33286337
Nigga I perfectly understood it. What you don't like about my answer?

>>33286292
M
To enjoy beautiful women
Beautiful women

>>33286333
>>33286336
more specific than that?

>>33286321
oh, I meant more like yesterday, I wanted to re read something I had noted down about consciousness but then I remembered that it‘s gone and it felt a bit scary that if I forget, it‘s just gone

>>33286338
cause its retarded like you

>>33286341
Ah, fair. Struggled with that too but different things

>>33286340
I speak flatly and show no emotions and I obsess over a niche topic

>>33286345
what things? lack of reason?

>>33286340
I don't know anonette, ADHD and depression are pretty big red flags. If you wonder how'd you know if someone has either you can just ask them if you notice the usual signs. Either they lie to you or they'll be honest, in both cases you got good reasons to drop them

>>33286313
That'd be like saying that humans are being illogical by sinning because there's God. Angels are closer to god, but not perfect as He is.

>>33286344
My red flag is that I call other people "niggers" regardless of gender and race

>>33286324
Old balding neet virgin.

>>33286347
how is that a red flag tho? how does it lead to agressive/toxic behavior... you guys are so retarded

>>33286349
No, wanting to remember, hating that I want to cling to little light there was in all that loss. I remember the last words I heard from you and I hate myself for it. Stuff like that. It’s pointless

>>33286356
why would you hate yourself for that?
>pointless
fair, just say the word if you don‘t want to go deeper

>>33286328
I'm interested in hearing more about how you master yourself.

>>33286354
>>33286353
once again, retarded moid logic. So I will make it easier for you, brainless fucks. I meet a guy, he's nice for the first couple of months then he turns into an aggresive, manipulator, disgusting fuck. How can I tell who he truly is from those few months when he acts nicely?

>>33286359
Why would I not?

>>33286355
it's signs of autism

>>33286320
temptation is a feeling isn't it? its not an intellectual calculation. I don't know enough about spirits to say they don't have feelings, but they certainly have intelligence, and powers. but even if they did have feelings, in the beginning there was no corruption in these feelings, if feelings could become corrupted so as to cause action, it would be after having a reason to make them corrupt, because they cannot start innately corrupt. an impure thing cannot be in heaven, nor would God have made a thing that is innately impure; God made them innately pure in feeling, then upon an act of will became impure, due to some reason they discerned. if you think about it, intelligence has to lead the way first, it can't be any feelings or will first to be the primary cause.

>>33286339
What are the active choices you have made to bring joy and inspiration into your life?

>>33286361
> then he turns into an aggresive, manipulator, disgusting fuck. How can I tell who he truly is from those few months when he acts nicely?
Nta but how does that happen? Do they hide their real personalities? What do you mean by disgusting? Do they stop showering?

>>33286361
>How can I tell who he truly is from those few months when he acts nicely?
How the fuck should I know? I'm not him.
>So I will make it easier for you, brainless fucks.
I don't want to talk to you any more.

>>33286285
>As a black lady, how do you feel about the phenomenon of "divesting"?
Black men deserve to be put down. I'm mixed, so they see me as a mutt. They see black women as low value or as property. They constantly put black women down while hyping up women of other races. But then they lose their shit when black women date outside their race, especially if she's attractive.

>>33286288
Tree. Fiddy.

>>33286292
F
>What inspires you?
I used to run 100% on spite. Now I'm kind of aimless.
>What brings you joy?
Being active, having a partner that brings out the best in me, kids, cooking, video games, and animals.

>>33286320
anyways fun talk, i gonna schleep nao..

>>33286361
If he doesn't call you "nigger" within that time that means he is suppressing his rage greatly

>>33286367
5 out of 6 guys I talked to turn out this way. only in 2 of them I could see that they were rotten from the start. And yes, they pretend to be nice guys. Disgusting as in pushy about sex

>>33286360
the first layer would be to try and learn more and feed my mind with high quality information
the second layer would be to try my best to understand and connect what I learn
those two layers I feel like I have an ok grasp on, but ofc it could be much better
the third layer is the one is struggle with the most, which is putting it all in practice
the methods I use are mainly self awareness, self discipline and self awareness
in a way, dialectical process applied to my own consciousness but sometimes it gets too overwhelming and I slide back into wanting to get rid of any self awareness and be drowned out by blissful ignorance since self awareness means holding the burden of every single flaw all the time and it gets too heavy every now and then

>>33286369
sorry anon, you guys are really damn slow and that shit pisses me off so badly

>>33285758 (OP)
ladies how much do you trust your ability to track your cycle and fertility? my gf showed me how she does it and can accurately predict her period. we use the pull out method but i am becoming increasingly paranoid about it, despite her not even wanting children

>>33286370
Funny how aimless is just another transient state of being for women and a death sentence for men

>>33286370
What's the best in you?

>>33286374
How are they rotten? How do you define pushy for sex? Like touching you in bed when you wanna sleep?

>>33286377
Typical foid not saying what she means, not meaning what she says, and demands men to be mind readers.

>>33286362
because there is no end to it, it is not actually solving anything, just punishment for the sake of punishment which I guess you‘d feel like you deserve when you go there but why? for not being perfect? then everyone would deserve nothing but punishment and if thats the case then we can pack up and all go home into the void right this moment, which fair, that might be solace, but then that does not answer the question as to why we didn‘t just stay in the void to begin with
and what do you think might be the answer to that? I don‘t think I have one yet that doesn‘t dissolve when you look at it from a different angle

>>33285758 (OP)
Will a woman stay in a relationship she's unhappy with out of convenience? I had a GF once leave me for another guy and admitted she'd been over me for some time but was waiting for something better to come along. This was far worse than her just breaking it off - just wondering if it was common

>>33286361
>I meet a guy, he's nice for the first couple of months then he turns into an aggresive, manipulator, disgusting fuck. How can I tell who he truly is from those few months when he acts nicely?

That doesn't happen. He's an agressive manipulator from the beginning. The point is wether you want to see it or not.

my new gf’s relationship history has been toxic and she said she is drawn to men with mental issues. i am no exception in this regard but im not toxic. is this a red flag?

>>33286390
People generally do what benefits them the most, yeah. If staying with you benefits someone more than leaving, they will stay.

>>33286365
Have you ever considered that I might not have those things in reach for quite a long while?

But in all honesty I like to go to the gym and keeping a schedule. It's good to have structure, and even better not to self-deceive. Being attractive is the basic requirement to reach out for what I want, so I might as well go and do it.

>>33286385
oh cmon, why do I need to give you this many details? making disgusting jokes with me and demanding kisses on first dates and shit like that. Now answear the question, you faggot

I never understood how titty size works.

>>33286392
>but im not toxic
lol

>>33286376
Interesting. Thanks.
I'm on the second layer in regard to your post.

>>33286389
The hatred is because I’m still instinctively seeking something I can never have, because I am pathetic
> the answer
It’s desperation for a feeling, like an addiction

>>33286395
>why do I need to give you this many details?

nta, but maybe so we can understand what the fuck are you trying to say and what kind of behaviour you mean? Women call disgusting everything they don't like, so it's not like you were being very specific there.

>>33286399
yeah, I think thats where many meet their glas ceiling because it‘s the final step to put it all together
I guess there isn‘t much one can do other than keep trying

>>33286388
no, honey, youre just retarded. i asked a simple question, but you guys have no reading comprehension. shut down your pc and open a damn book
>>33286391
no, Im telling you all of them are so good at this. Had a guy be a total gentleman with me then turn 180 when I politely declin his advantages
>>33286402
I gave you the details, now give me the answears. why are men like this?

>>33286395
No wonder you have shit dates

How do I turn my wife into a fit muscle mommy.

>>33286394
I have indeed considered that. It does not change my question.

>>33286406
well, Im like this only on 4chan, Ive been more than kind to these man

>>33286409
This place is a reflection of a part of you

Man what the fuck
I just woke up with a random scar on my chest.
This is womens fault. I will never forgive this.

>>33286397
You're either a tittymonster or a flattie.

>>33286400
what feeling? I tried to narrow it down but I feel like it‘s not one feeling but feeling itself that we crave
which might be why I sometimes simply surrender and make peace with the fact that maybe we want to feel it all, not just the pleasant
maybe feeling itself is pleasant, even if the feeling is pain

>>33286395
>oh cmon, why do I need to give you this many details
I really don't know what pushy means, sorry. Like I really don't know, I've apologised for being pushy before when I was told I'm not
>making disgusting jokes with me and demanding kisses on first dates and shit like that.
Like I though pushy might be asking for a kiss or a hug on a second date or something
>Now answear the question, you faggot
Can you ask me again I'm not the original anon

>>33286411
you dont know me and you dont know what you are talking about, I gave you the details yet you cant give me a straight answear. either that or you are unable to accept that good men are actually bad

>>33286415
Feeling seen, loved, cherished, appreciated. We tolerate the pain for promise of greater love, or returning of past love
Idk I think we’re on two different wavelengths rn

>>33286404
You asked me about me, and then you were pissed off when I told you about me.

>>33286419
okay, what are some red flags in diabolical men that pretend to be good the first couple of months only to show theyre true rotten self afterwards?

>>33286423
what the fuck else do you want more??? I said what you wanted me to say and yet

>>33286420
I don’t care about this at all desu

>>33286422
and you hate yourself for not giving up hope? because it would hurt less to stop out the light completely?

>>33286408
Then my given answer stands. I am not in a position where I can simply go out to the world and *do* things. I have made mistakes, some life-long, and need to rectify them bit by bit. It'll be a while before I can think of family or a home or settling down, never mind reaching out for my dreams. My world is not like yours. There isn't much opportunity, and everything is vaguely trending down.

>>33286429
then why tf did you reply? =))) goddammit, 4chiners are so retarded. im using my peak neuroplasticity talking to fucking donkeys online

>>33286430
Yeah. It would be better for both of us if I never came back here, yet I do

>>33286433
now think about what that says about you

>>33286428
I didn't ask you for anything.

>>33286436
Im just as idiotic as you? =)))

>>33286434
same goes for me
can‘t we make peace with knowing that there is still something it gives us that makes it worth staying? or do you think it‘s more like a leaden weight dragging us down?

>>33286404
>no, honey, youre just retarded. i asked a simple question, but you guys have no reading comprehension. shut down your pc and open a damn book

Great attitude when asking for help. Not going to bother replying the rest.

>>33286431
What mistakes? What are the incremental fixes? Besides working out that you've already mentioned.

>>33286439
What does it give you

>>33286424
Well anonette, since they're lying to you by omission and you suck at catching them in a lie it's kinda hard to say. Generic advice would be to stay away from doctors and financebros but you already know that, since you seem to attract these types I'd suggest switching your dating avenue to something completely different.

>>33286445
they were all losers anon, not even doctors or finance bros. even the losers have gotten cocky

>>33286440
why do you dodge valid criticism, anon? I asked such a basic, simple question and all of you dagged it into 10 replies. I cant play kidergarden teacher with you and start explaining it like youre 5

>>33286449
Oh come on now, have you tried nerdy stem students? That's kinda the last garbage bin option but you'd find some people with empathy there and no women

>>33286433
not a moid but I‘ll give you the answer, it won‘t be what you want to hear though
the truth is that these men that were nice at first then turn into entitled assholes get that way not because they were lying to you and trying to trick you but because thats what you bring out in them
every human being has the potential to be a saint or a demon, some lean more one way, others more the other
it‘s not fully under your control what side of someone shows up ofc and there is a few psychopaths that truly pretend to be caring and kind hearts just to get you to let your guard down and then rip you into pieces
but those are very rare and usually rather easy to spot because as with all criminals, they tend to want an audience for their spectacle

what you need to do is learn to take responsibility in your part of the equation and frankly, from the behavior you displayed itt it is very clear to see how and why you bring out the demons in men
you just did it to these anons you kept kvetching because they did not do your bidding (except they did answer your question the first time, you just did not like their answer and you also failed to actually ask what you wanted to ask) and now you feel like you are superior and everyone else is a retard, especially if they have a penis

you are exactly the kind of woman bitter men mean when they say women are insufferable because you have zero self awareness and you take zero responsibility for how your own behavior influences the people around you

basically, grow the fuck up

>>33285763
I don't believe in duty. Duty is, at best, a mental shorthand used by imbeciles to describe much more important things like "protecting your loved ones" or "keeping the place you live a good place to live".

>>33286412
Misandrist ghost cuts me at night. I wish she'd just leave me alone.

>>33286451
trust me, 2 of them were such outright virgin losers and they were all so much into sweet talking me, but they turned so vile when the situation shifted. I feel like weaker men are so much worse than the chad archetype

>>33286451
I thought all of us had learned that STEM dork losers were the least empathetic men of all. I'm not even a woman and I know this

>>33286450
It's a valid question, but when you act like everyone is retarded but you, it makes people not want to engage with you, go figure. If you want a reply, I'm guessing is that wonderful attitude of you that makes guys go from being nice to endind up burn out and frustrated with you.

>>33286381
>ladies how much do you trust your ability to track your cycle and fertility?
On birth control, not at all. Off birth control, I'm usually right within a day or two.

>>33286390
>Will a woman stay in a relationship she's unhappy with out of convenience?
Yes, and sadly, women will check out of a relationship long before leaving it.

>>33286383
>What's the best in you?
Ultimately, being a net good for the world. Not being misanthropic, wanting to help others, being ambitious for my own benefit and not someone else's detriment. I'm tired of being angry and mean.

>>33286397
>I never understood how titty size works
The number is your band size, the letter is your cup size, cup size is a measurement of how much bigger your bust is than your chest.

>>33286407
>How do I turn my wife into a fit muscle mommy.
Being jacked for women is a choice, so unless that's something she actively wants and is willing to put in years of hard work, it's not happening. You also need the genetics for it.

>>33285763
We thank you, oh Monolith, for revealing the cunning plans of your enemies to us.
May your light shine down on the souls of the brave soldiers who gave their lives in service to your will.
Onward warriors of the Monolith, avenge your fallen brothers, blessed as they are in their eternal union with the Monolith.
Bring death to those who spurned the holy power of the Monolith.

>>33286444
many things, sometimes just entertainment, sometimes an outlet for frustration, sometimes new insights, sometimes you
thats much more than any other place provides all in one spot

>>33286456
Well good luck anonette, I hope you find someone

>>33286457
I don't think that's true, a lot of stem dorks are normal people and not psychopathic techbros. Stem covers a lot of different fields and universities with different levels of prestige, some are down to earth

>>33286461
you mean that monolith that mysteriously appeared in the desert out of nowhere and nobody had ab explanation?

>>33286459
>Ultimately, being a net good for the world. Not being misanthropic, wanting to help others, being ambitious for my own benefit and not someone else's detriment.
How does a partner bring this out in you?
>I'm tired of being angry and mean.
I'm glad.

>>33286324
My IRL friends are all women and I've slept with a lot of them. I spend hours every day talking with my best friend who I used to sleep with (I was her first and so far only). Obviously if I dated someone then I'd spend a lot less time with her (I'm only able to spend so much time with her because we're both bitchless and I'm temporarily unemployed), but she'd very much still be my best friend. I am, overall, a manwhore.
Obviously I know I'm a loyal guy who loves deeply and has no desire to sleep around once he's fallen in love, but she won't be a mind reader. I've listed reasons why it's prudent from her end to keep her eyes open in case I turn out to be some epic faux gentleman fuckboy.
>>33286463
It's not even about the psychopath tech bros. It's about the guys who were bullied or marginalised in school and always wanted the chance to finally have power over someone. To be clear, ofc there's tonnes of genuine and cool STEMlords but it's certainly not a haven of safe guys either.

>>33286462
Yeah, that’s true

>>33286453
holy shit nona, I get it it. I can be a little bitch from time to time, but I dont think my bitchy behavior can equate to their agressive ones (now Im talking about the guys I talked to, not the anon here). Also, this shit happens when I was younger, I was softer back then, I wasnt as poisonous as now. Thing is you dont know the full story, a guy literaly tried to trap me into a relationship with him by using the suicide method. And he used to be such a sweetheart in the beggining. The rest werent as bad as him, but damn, this one left a mark. Now hes even hunting me online. In this case im 100% sure I didnt instigate anything. So this was my initial question

What does it mean when you have sex with a woman and she gets more "loose" as time goes on? it has happened with both girls I've dated in my life. In the beginning they were super tight but then they became looser in feeling. It was still pleasurable but I found it weird.

>>33286459
>Ultimately, being a net good for the world.
Aren't you one of those lgbtcucks?

>>33286478
they upgraded to bigger cocks on the side

>>33286478
Vaginas loosen the more aroused and comfortable a woman is so it means you got better at making her feel good.

>>33286471
Rude, being bullied doesn't make you into a bad person. Most victims develop anxiety as a result instead of dark triad traits.

But yeah, I guess nowhere is safe. All you can do is raise the odds and hope for the best. I wish we had a way to measure empathy in people through brain scans or something, that would be neat.

>>33286459
>Being jacked for women is a choice, so unless that's something she actively wants and is willing to put in years of hard work, it's not happening. You also need the genetics for it.

Starting to figure this out. I guess the only thing that really bugs me about it is she quit her job to be a SAHM and she promised me she'd get fit as a bargaining chip (I was really unsure we could pull off the arrangement). The thing is, she responds really well to weightlifting and if she took it half as seriously as I do, she'd look like Wonder Woman.

Regardless, becoming a SAHM was a net positive for the family so I don't want to dwell on it too much.

>>33286441
I suppose the most pertinent one was my approach to education. By the end of college I was more grinding towards the end of it to simply get the degree and coast towards getting a "decent" job off of my university's reputation. Instead of reinforcing the skills and knowledge to leverage the degree I was thinking by semester to semester. So now I have to relearn things on my own without much in the way of curriculum. Which will be difficult, considering that I just got a job recently.

My social skills have dropped off a cliff. I got treated like a bitch in college and didn't have the spine to push back. It'll take a while to reform friends and make a social circle again. Being outside helps, but interpersonal connections are something to deal with later. Conversations, small talk, are rather easy. But being mindful about eye contact, social cues, do not come naturally to me. Don't even get me started about flirting, even the advice from here reinforce the fact that it is something to experience and not think about.

My problems can basically be reduced to lack of status, value, and agency. Learning how to actually study, to be human again, and to be affable are the gaps I need to play the game so to speak. I'm sure there's a couple of neuroeses I've picked up from real life and 4chan that I can't tell even here because they're embarrassing and difficult to work out.

So yeah, I don't have a rat's chance in hell to ever get a beautiful woman as of now. If I were as smart as people thought I am, I wouldn't underperform as I do now.

what should i expect from a four hand massage at an asian place?

>>33286488
Regret

>>33286484
That's why I specified guys who had both been bullied and also wanted to feel that sort of power themselves. Often twisted in with a dose of wanting to prove that they aren't the sort of person who gets bullied any more. Anxiety is a huge driver of shitty behaviour, fwiw.
I was bullied hard myself btw and ended up with social anxiety because of it. I know what it feels like

>>33286488
Depends highly on whether it's legit or not.
>Legit
A very thorough and efficient massage which will leave you relaxed at the end of it. If it's traditional then you will feel pain throughout the massage because they're fucking demons. If it's "westernised" then it will be relaxing throughout.
>Sexo
The same as above, except halfway through they'll offer handjobs, sliding around on you naked, and rarely sex. Pro tip: Ask them to massage you SUPER sensually with just their finger tips. Much better than the legit massage for this purpose.

>>33286476
>dont think my bitchy behavior can equate to their agressive ones
thats where you are wrong, personally if I was a man trying to date you, I‘d have bitch slapped you and blocked you long ago
if you go on peoples nerves like that, at first they might tell you to stop, then they get annoyed, frustrated, sad that you don‘t give a shit about how you make them feel and ultimately it tips over into anger and then aggression
ofc ideally they would have had more dignity and walked away instead of letting you chip away at them like this but thats the issue with some men, they crave companionship and thus put up with a lot to keep it, even if it sucks
I‘m not saying these guys were angels and it‘s all your fault, both you and them are very much just humans and humans love trying to get their way whenever possible and often have a melty when they don‘t get their way
thats why some men crash out when you reject them, because it‘s basically you saying they are not good enough for you on top of not getting their way, that‘s like telling a toddler not only do they not get to watch tv, they have to clean the toilet too
there is many adults that never got properly socialized and still have the emotional self regulation of a toddler that always got their way as to not bother the parents with crying and screaming
you might be one of them

>>33286494
Same. Though I think I wouldn't call shitty behaviour caused by anxiety shitty because there's usually feeling of regret and knowing you're fucking something up. Even if you know you're doing it you might be unable to do a course correction. At least that how I see.

Good luck, I wish you the best

>>33285758 (OP)
Both genders,
Have you ever owned a lava lamp?

>>33286503
f
yes

>>33286503
M
No. My brother had one, the bastard

>>33286503
chatgpt ahh question

>>33286487
The first paragraph describes life long learning. Some people would say that is what inspires and brings them joy.
Also congratulations on the job! Even if I understand it can feel like it's taking up time from other pursuits, it's important to have an income.

>>33286508
how the fuck is that a chat gpt ahh question

>>33286508
Just woke up, the Israeli bot farm that runs me is still working out the bugs

>>33286504
nta but did you try to fuck it?

Who else here always prefered playing Luigi to Mario, because he/she dosen't like playing a fat guy?

>>33286514
lmao no, I was like 10

>>33286324
clingy/somewhat obsessive

>>33286469
>How does a partner bring this out in you?
By making me do stuff. I have a tendency to be a recluse

>>33286481
>Aren't you one of those lgbtcucks?
What of it?

>>33286503
>Have you ever owned a lava lamp?
F
Yes, and I broke it open while it was hot to throw the scalding insides at my brother.

>>33286515
I always resonated more with Luigi. He's got his own mansion but doesn't mind playing number 2 for his brother because he's a good person.

Yeah. It’s been something

>>33286483
>the better a woman feels the worse a man does
sobering

>>33285884
Immediately look

>>33286509
While I agree with the sentiment, there's no shortage of fear on my end. Nothing more mindbreaking than to know that I've been a fraud for most of my life. I'll find a way to fit in the gym.

I do wonder why you took such interest in my response. I'm really no diferrent from other losers in this thread.

>>33286518
>I broke it open while it was hot to throw the scalding insides at my brother.
The fuck? What happened?

>>33285945
When treated correctly.

>>33286518
Are Waluigi and Wario even supposed to be bad Guys?

Now that I think about it, they've never done anything bad.

>>33286521
I mean it makes sense. You widen to allow penis in. But yeah it sucks

>>33286523
>I do wonder why you took such interest in my response.
No point in asking questions if I'm not going to try to engage with the answers.

>>33286062
Absolutely not. He's mine, not the government's.

>>33286521
I'm no expert but as far as I know
>tight and dry= doesn't like you or is anxious
>loose and dry= maybe older or dehydrated/ doesn't like you
>loose and wet= she probably just likes you but doesn't have it genetically to be tight for your size
>tight and wet= either more wet genetically than normal or just tighter than normal, maybe likes you

>>33286518
Girl why are you posting shadman

>>33286518
>What of it?
They make the world a worse place

>>33286520
yeah

>>33286538
I always wanted you to be more than this place. I’ll take the L on that. I realized how fucked I am. I gave myself to someone who sees me as a chatroom feature

>>33286548
wtf… thats what you got out of this?
damn

>>33286497
youre talking out of your ass, you judge me based on an intentionally exxagerated reaction on an anonymous site filled with people I despised. From my big wall of text you only picked what you wanted to hear. I will tell you again, i wasnt like that with them, I was being decent and patient, even polite for fucks sake. And most of our fight werent even about my behavior or their anger towards it, those men have wronged me in unrelated ways

>>33286517
finally, a good response. I could see that shit in the guy I dated, but he was the first to ever treat me with so much care that I left myself be blinded by that

>>33286551
what were the fights over then?
>people I despise
yeah, it says a lot about you that you despise anonymous people and even more that you come here specifically where those people are you despise
you don‘t want advice, you come here only to poke so you can feel superior
you are deeply pathetic

>>33286550
What I got is that the love I crave so much from you only comes after pain and suffering. It’s only given as a condolence

>>33285758 (OP)
Both genders,

Think of the opposite genders weight, What's the first number that comes to mind?

M
140lbs

>>33286551
>i wasnt like that with them, I was being decent and patient, even polite for fucks sake

Every awful person thinsk that they've never done anything wrong anon. That doesn't mean anything.

>>33286558
a condolence? where does that come from now? if thats how you want to see me and thats what you think of me then go ahead, indulge yourself
I‘m kinda done trying to untangle the mess you keep getting your heart and your head into
let me guess, you thought it was me poking you earlier itt, right?

>>33286564
this too, a decent person would at least have the decency to see that they were not being perfect themselves

>>33286515
I like luigi because he is a scaredy boy but does the things anyway. <3

>>33286565
No. It was you that said >his penis, right? After saying to close my eyes? That entire exchange was just so painful. It made me so, so sad

>>33286562
56kg

This is going to sound like a humblebrag but it's not, I've been with 3 women in my life and all three commented on my size. The thing is that my cock is not big at all. Is this a common thing women do? It seems silly.

>>33286571
uh, no?
whatever, this is never going to not end in a mess, how stupid

>>33286556
it was not about poking, scroll up and read my reply back again, was I not polite in the beggining? I asked the question nicely, they were the ones that derailed it.
>what were the fights over then?
the evil guy I friendzoned, but in a polite compassionate way, 2 were mad I didnt given them intimacy, despite telling them that Im wating till marriage, and some other guy started hating my because I stopped pursuing him when he literally turned me down. So how was I the bitch in these cases? And they all seem nice in the begging, all of gentlemens, good guys that would swear to be there for him.

>>33286575
Nothing I can do about that desu, if you want to be in your feels instead of thinking about where I’m coming from, that’s all you

>>33286567
the reason we fought had nothing to do with my attitude,I think Ive had enough 4chan for today

>>33286337
>>33286578
i would not call this polite and this was after anons dared to post answers you did not like, literally the second post in this whole thing you made

yeah, I would have to either have been there or hear their side of the story because frankly you seem like an unreliable narrator

>>33286580
and where are you coming from?

>>33286583
>men, what are some red flags about you that females should take notes of
this was my first post, why are you being nitpicky about it? I know youre trying to debate me, but do better

>>33286578
I don't think I've ever seen so many red flags in a single post.

>>33286583
also, what part of my story seems unrelaible?

>>33286574
I mean yeah part of it is that porn really reinforces the idea that all guys want to hear about their cock is that it's (too) big, you can barely take it and so on. So it is also just kind of the token compliment.

That said, it is very possible you are not as average in size as you think. Outside of the internet, having a reasonably thick 6" dick is definitely enough to impress some. People forget that 5" - 5.5" is not just average, it's what by far most dicks are, they fit in that group. Porn makes porn actors' dicks seem bigger with camera tricks and the likes, but in real life even "just" a 7" dick is exceedingly rare and again, 6" is noticeably bigger than average/expected.

>>33286586
I know which was the first post you idiot
thats why I said the one I linked was the second
You claimed to have been polite in the beginning, but you called anons brainless faggots immediately after not saying what you wanted to heart
thats how you get people to want to hurt you, and for valid reason
just because you did not call people brainless faggots in the initial question does not mean you were polite, lol
get a grip

>>33286588
tell me what the red flags are?

>>33286324
I dropped out of college, I don't have a driving license, I live with my parents and I never had a girlfriend.

>>33286589
all of it

>>33286562
120lbs

>>33286592
they didnt hurt me because I was agressive, I told you the reason earlier. Plus, I was younger and that was real life, everybody is ass on 4chin. since when the hell do we need to be polite here?

>>33286521
Depends on what you like, some men get off on feeling how much they "wrecked" the pussy. It is also just a different sensation/expectation. Think of a not that well-lubricated/tight pussy as a hand around your dick, whereas fucking a wide open, sloppy wet vagina is like massaging your head against the palm of your hand. Both can work to get off as long as you are not constantly thinking about wanting the hand grip when you do the palm thing.

Don't forget it's no different for women, either, when I'm gushing wet and wide I also lose the "hugging" feeling of the penis inside.

If you both really want her to be as tight as possible despite arousal level, there's also some tricks you can do, e.g. positions with her legs closer together rather than open wide, a butt plug will tighten her up a bit too.

>>33286592
also, the way I talked to you despite you insulting me shows I have the capacity for self control and politeness

>>33286596
You think men should be 120?

>>33286593
Friendzoning people in a polite, compassionate way, waiting until marriage and caring about what someone you rejected thinks.

>>33286597
no they got aggressive because you are an insufferable cunt
>younger
yeah, apparently you always were an insufferable cunt and never grew out of it
>polite on 4chan
you are interacting with real people but I guess your brain can‘t comprehend that concept

>>33286478
>>33286483
This anon is right, the only thing I would add to it is that trust plays a huge role too. The kind of "relaxed" you can get during a first fuck is very different from the kind of "relaxed" you can get having sex for the so manyth time with someone you love and fully trust as a person.

This also means it gets easier for women to climax.

>>33286602
Yes

>>33286604
how are they red flags? oh my god, my brain is melting. I was actually pretty excited with your first reply cause I though I might have came across a rational woman, but goddamit you let me down

>>33286608
Good for you then.

>>33286605
since when are incels "real people"? have you not gotten the memo on what 4chan truly is?

>>33286610
They don't have boobs or ass so, women-20lbs of boobs and ass is 120.
Mathin.

>>33286605
and why are you seething so hard at me, nona? :))) pick me much?

>>33286613
you are crazy, bye

>>33286381
>ladies how much do you trust your ability to track your cycle and fertility?
Not much at all, I would never rely on it for BC. Hell I got a IUD specifically because I did not feel safe enough about hormonal BC either.

That said, it is possible, the caveat is just that not every woman is equally suited for it (very reliable periods are a lot easier to track than if your cycle naturally fluctuates a lot in response to stress and all that) and not every woman is equally in touch with her body. I would vouch without doubt that I feel sure there are plenty of women who know from the whole of signs of their body (vaginal temperature, discharge, time of the month etc) whether they are about to have their period or not. You CAN be as certain about that as you can be about feeling an incoming shit or something. But it takes a lot more subtle understanding of your own body, a lot more attentive observation over the years.

Overall as a method, tracking will simply never be as reliable as perfect use BC or an IUD. I would definitely consider wearing a condom, not just for your peace of mind during the act, but also - imagine how you would feel if she gets pregnant and wants to keep it and you don't, when you were already having these thoughts? It will be hard not to resent yourself for not contributing to avoiding that scenario.

>>33286616
oh, you just waisted my time

>>33285758 (OP)
Gender.
Would you say dating and connecting is a skill or is it just something that happens naturally?

>>33286614
I guess if they're the same height with similar frame and muscle mass

>>33286609
> I was actually pretty excited with your first reply cause I though I might have came across a rational woman, but goddamit you let me down

Assuming that the "rational" reply has to come from a woman. We already know that you think that everyone is retarded despite coming here for help, but you're not helping your case.

>>33286620
Socializing is a skill yeah. Part of language arts.

>>33286620
F, both, the same way you can learn to get better at making people laugh and some people are just naturally funnier than others.

>>33286620
M
Knowing social cues, timings, what to say, what not to say etc is a skill yes

>>33286620
M
A mix of both. Obviously you can get better at dating and all that. But for most people happen naturally, and if it doesn't for you, you're fucked.

>>33286622
Yeah.

>>33286623
well, im not saying everybody is retarded, I assume 1 in 100 is at least 3 digits iq

>>33286630
Doesn't change the fact that you've shown a clear bias that probably had to do with the way you interacted with those guys you were talking about earlier.

>>33286631
definitely, Im aware of it, but I dont think its wrong. Pattern recognition is survival. This is why I asked that question in the first place. The faster I filter this men out, the easier it would be for me

state your gender
what's the furthest you'd go physically with a friend of the opposite gender while still calling the relationship platonic?

>>33286634
Hugging

>>33286634
F, I think the overall vibe matters more than the literal act. I have kissed female friends on the lips without it feeling different than their cheeks, I have fallen asleep being spooned or spooning a friend. At the same time one of the most sexually charged things a friend ever did to me was giving me a slow lick getting something off my hand while holding eye contact the entire time. That was definitely not platonic but I wouldn't argue that giving a hand a lick is going further than a lips on lips kiss.

>>33286634
Sleeping in the same bed & sometimes sprawling a bit over each other because that just sometimes happens when you're sharing a bed.

>>33286634
>>33286641
Sorry I somehow totally missed your "opposite gender" part. yeah gonna agree with a hug, a long one in case something very shitty happened. Kiss on the cheek too, but where I live that's a pretty normal greeting anyway, even in more formal settings.

>>33286642
M

>>33286634
>a friend of the opposite gender
Never had those
M

>>33286634
>while still calling the relationship platonic
Hugs in public.

>>33286634
Much more than hugging, maybe carrying them a little. Nothing more than I do with my male friends

How many of these could an armed American kill before he gets killed?
https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1lm7s0v/ice_uses_breaching_charges_against_family_in/
What would happen then if he managed to kill all of them?

>>33286633
>Woman asking why she has trouble with men
>Look inside
>The woman looks down on men and thinks that 99% of them are the worst

Many such cases.

>>33286652
I feel a guy carrying me is sexual, personally.

>>33286634
M
I guess hugging and patting are close to the limit, depends on the context.

is there anything like porn but for cuddling?

Adblock isn't working

>>33286655
is this what you understood from that whole ass post? I also said 99% of men from 4chins, a mongolian wetbasket site known for its mysogynistic users

Men, why don't you like women?

>>33286665
I subscribed to r/cuddleslut and go there when I want to get mad.

>>33286668
No, but it's quite telling. You also said that you don't think it's wrong having that bias. The same way women can tell when a man only wants sex, men can tell when a woman is looking down on him. I'm sure you came across as equally arrogant and dismissive to those guys you had problems with.

>>33286673
Because women don't like men and hate us, so we need to hate them back.

>>33286525
>The fuck? What happened?
We had a fight. I lost. He wasn't ready for round 2.

>>33286536
>They make the world a worse place
Disagree. Gay people do a lot of good.

>>33286562
>Think of the opposite genders weight, What's the first number that comes to mind?
F
225

>>33286535
>Girl why are you posting shadman
Regardless of him being a pedo, he's really funny.

I wish I had McDonald's rn i miss it so much

>>33286685
>Regardless of him being a pedo, he's really funny.
JH, is that you?

>>33286673
I love women

>>33286685
>another lgbtroon that supports pedos
that checks out

Can't stop thinking about a man it's literally torture

M
Vibrators look so souless. Women i think you should let us do it instead

>>33286689
Don't be rude, she didn't say anything about cheating being hot.

>>33286618
thanks for your insight. so i suppose she is a woman who is really in touch with her body and blessed with ‘stable cycle’ as she can accurately predict her period to an exact day.

you raise a valid concern and i wil bring it up with her. the trouble is that she made it sound like it’s very reliable and admittedly i was too much in the moment to care at first. got some thinking to do thanks anon.

>>33286518
>it was hot to throw the scalding insides at my brother.
Is that why he's infertile now

>>33286696
She didn't, she simply revealed that she finds it hot

>>33286681
I dont look down on men I respect, and once again im telling you the reason we fought was because they wanted something from that I couldnt give them.
And if my bias is the cause of such reaction in men, could it be the same for incels? Could their bias also influence the woman they are talking too? if you think thats the case with me, it must be the same with them, right?

how bad is it to go for a round 2 after cooming if we use the pull out method? i did clean up but didn’t pee inbetween

>>33286692
Kys, I would personally burn all child molesters alive if I could

>>33286685
>We had a fight. I lost. He wasn't ready for round 2.
The fuck is wrong with you...
>>33286689
>>33286692
Nevermind

>>33286689
Not JH, but I'm gonna treat her as one

>>33286701
>I dont look down on men I respect

So for you they must prove themselves so you don't look down on them. Yeah, the cause of your problemas gets more evident.

>and once again im telling you the reason we fought was because they wanted something from that I couldnt give them.

And once again me and many other anons are telling you that despite the disagreement, there must be another reason to their personality shift. The constant is you, and you're proving it with your attitude here.

>And if my bias is the cause of such reaction in men, could it be the same for incels? Could their bias also influence the woman they are talking too? if you think thats the case with me, it must be the same with them, right?

Of course it is, incles don't know how to engage with women in a non retarded way. Did you expect me to say otherwise because "femoids bad?" I don't give a shit about that. Again, showing a bias without acknowledging what others are trying to say.

>>33286704
>The fuck is wrong with you...
We've done worse to each other, if that helps.

>>33286685
man I think the worst fight I ever had with my brother involved me pushing him into his room and that's about it

>>33286708
Is JH a Neuro/Rulebreaker tier piece of shit nowadays?

>>33286718
Maybe
She's the worst femanon atm

>>33286716
He once tried to poison my dog, so I beat him with a comal and fractured his arm. Here I am getting nostalgic.

>>33286718
jh poisoned my water supply, burned my crops and delivered a plague unto my house :(

>>33286726
Wouldn't put it past her, lol

>>33286712
you assume that I treat irl men the same way I treat men on an anonymous forum? men that are known to be viscious to women?

>>33286718
Worst Poster Awards will always go to G and C. It's all fun and games when it's only adults fucking over other adults, but now we have adults fucking over children and using this thread to attentionwhore about it too.

>>33286729
Viscous?

Eating chicken strips with no sauce for dinner. What has my life become

>>33286737
vicious, I added an unnecessary "s"

>>33286729
>men that are known to be viscious to women?

Again, you show prejudice for no reason. If there's a place in 4chan where you can sort of expect cordiality between men and woman is atoga, and yet you treat this like /r9k/ or /b/.

Maybe you think that you don't treat them the same, but the fact that you already assume that the people here deserve no respect despite trying to answer your questions already shows what your personality's like. And I don't doubt that that personality shows in your irl interactions as well, as much as you want to deny it.

>>33286695
If I casually having a guy get me off was socially acceptable and guaranteed safe, I would.

How do I get a chud gf?

>>33286749
>prejudice for no reason
no reason? no reason at all? you keep forgetting youre not on reddit
>expect cordiality
what cordiality? show tits?

>that personality shows in your irl interactions as well
sure man, its true because you said so

>>33286673
They're very unempathetic and consider most of us subhuman.

>>33286730
>Worst Poster Awards will always go to G and C
Nta, who are those? Are they still here?

>>33286759
is this really what the average woman is like?

>>33286759
>no reason? no reason at all? you keep forgetting youre not on reddit

And you keep forgetting that people here were trying to reply to your question until you started to insult them for no good reason. And yeah, assuming that people won haven't said anything are "viscious" to women just because is showing prejudice for no reason.

>what cordiality? show tits?

How about the dozens of questions where anons of both sexes reply in a honest and friendly way? Or the many times they share and bond over similar experiences? Yes, if you're an arrogant femcel angry with the world, you won't notice it.

>sure man, its true because you said so

I never claimed to have the absoule truth. But based on the way you engage with people here and your past experiences, I think you that your prejudices and your attitude problems are not as hidden as you think.

>>33286765
you calling me average

>>33286591
I am barely above average, like a bit over 6'' with normal girth. In the same sense making idk, 90k is technically above average but wouldn't impress anyone.
It's just odd because I would never compliment a normal girl telling her that her tits are so big if her tits are totally normal. I'd just tell her she's pretty or she has nice legs or I love her skin, stuff like that.

>>33286768
I sure hope you are worse than average because otherwise holy shit.

>>33286324
>no friends
>few childhood pictures
>minimum wage job
This is a big one:
>gets angry during discussions about something they have no stake in
>fatherless
>will not insult andrew tate
>went along with lockdown / pronoun narrative
>no female friends
>no social media
>into femdom, scat, cuckolding, hardcore porn fetishes
>has never moved out
>never mentions wanting kids
>looks away rather than towards if someone scary comes into the area
>stutters when delivering an announcement publicly

>>33286695
Soulless is better than with a person who makes you feel cheap/less than/used/scared.

>>33286673
haughty and spineless, the worst combination.

>>33286762
To be fair, most men think most other men are subhuman too.

>>33286673
I don't care anymore, but I used to hate them for always picking the easiest tasks and then complaining that they don't get paid/appreciated enough

>>33286673
It’s not a dislike, it’s fear. Oh, how I fear the mighty Female.

>>33286634
M
carrying
spooning

>>33286724
>A comal is a smooth, flat griddle typically used in Mexico, Central America, and parts of South America
Americans...

>>33286767
they didnt even take the question seriously in the first replies and they were actually being low iq, I was just stating the facts, stay mad. I love how one angry female can throw you off so much, but not the dozen angry man

>>33286697
No worries. I hope you still see my reply, but anyway: google around for stats on fertility tracking. I am sure she might feel offended if you suggest she personally cannot do this well - especially because she is the one who learned everything for it and puts in all the effort, it can feel shitty to have the one benefitting from your efforts, simultaneously questioning them.

I think it is better if you simply show her the overall stats and that it simply overall carries more risk. I can imagine your gf might not be scared by that, though, kind of like how women who are incredibly punctual would not be worried by stats about pregnancy on imperfect BC because they think "well yeah if you sometimes forget it or take it at a different time or forget stomach issues can impact it - but I literally would never". In that sense it is a risk that you do have a level of control over - in your case it's just your partner and not you yourself. You are allowed to take extra steps (whether condoms or spermicide or whatever) so you feel secure too.

I think I broke my dick with that last goon sesh

>>33286673
When left to their own devices, they don't usually do things I'm interested in, also they are like cats, but I prefer dogs

>>33286770
You are still missing the point that like 80% of men is between 5" and 5.5". 90k would impress if only 20% are above 70k in the first place.

>>33286771
i am desu, Im very stubborn as you can see
>>33286774
>>few childhood pictures
interesting one, why is that?

>>33286774
>>no social media
also, why this?

>>33286784
>they didnt even take the question seriously in the first replies and they were actually being low iq,

You're literally calling other people retarded because you didn't like the reply and you still don't see why guys who interact with you go from gentlemanly to agressive in such a short time.

> stay mad. I love how one angry female can throw you off so much, but not the dozen angry man

You really think that I'm angry or emotionally invested about any of this? Is that supposed to be your "gotcha"? You've just resorted to low effort "u mad", I can't take you seriously enough to get mad. As for bringing up the "dozen angry man" that have nothing to do, I was talking with you, not with them. But I guess for you every guy here is a big bad evil windmill rather than someone telling you how you come off, so go ahead.

>>33286774
>gets angry during discussions about something they have no stake in
So having principles you feel strongly about...? I find this one odd.

>>33286673
wrong all the time, no accountability

>>33286801
Yeah, then they call you a pussy and unmanly if you don't pound your chest and speak out against what they think it's bad.

Women:
It's no secret among men that more and more of them are opting out of dating and relationships because it's become pointless for them.
Do women even notice that it's happening? If they do, do they care at all? Or is it just a big joke for you?

Why do zoomer women love tattoos so much?

>>33286813
Most of such women were raped as children and marking themselves with tattoos is the only way for them to reclaim the ownership of their body

>>33286324
None? unless she wants me to microanalyze her, which I'm extremely good at doing.

>>33286791
The normal thing is to have happy memories from childhood, and happy families take pictures. If he has none his childhood was either kinda lame or he asked not to be in any family photos, indicating he thinks he's ugly, but also doesn't understand the significance of being in the photos just because his parents wanted him to.

>>33286794
A man who has no social media likely isnt actively looking for a gf

>>33286801
You have a stake in your principles.
I'm talking about men who will get angry if you refute them over a discussion about something trivial like sports

>>33286810
It's no different for women. There's the whole 4b movement or whatever, but I am a chronic lurker and I'd say the whole "queen go live your best life and do not waste your energy on a man!!" message has been going strong for like 10-15 years in female dominated online spaces.

It just seems like in general the idea of optimizing yourself and living your best life, no compromises etc is not compatible with losing yourself in a bond with another person, for better or worse.

>>33286783
>Americans
Central and South America are not in the US

>>33286774
>looks away rather than towards if someone scary comes into the area
Man how is this a red flag. The fact you think this is a red flag is a red flag. Indicates you think way too long and hard about how to be tough or respond to danger.

>>33286823
>I'm talking about men who will get angry if you refute them over a discussion about something trivial like sports
Right, I get that.

>>33286827
>Central and South AMERICA

>>33286826
It's a comfort zone trap, simple as, and it applies to both men and women

I had a dream where I got sloppy toppy from a very hot blonde girl with an over the shoulder braid. It was an amazing fucking dream. Unfortunately she only bobbed her head like 4 times before I woke up.

I want to experience oral sex so bad.

Have you been experiencing flashbacks or premonitions?

>>33286827
Why do you think you are better than them? You have basically the same culture and history

>>33286834
In part no doubt. But I feel that people also carry their high standards (for products, success, health) over into romantic expectations. Both men and women are very quick to tell each other someone can "do better" and "shouldn't settle" - often based on superficial stuff like looks/career/age, rather than what really matters and outsiders cannot judge - how well you understand each other, how much chemistry, trust and respect there is, how much you enjoy shared everyday life, how much trust you feel and so on.

Both men and women are encouraged to see potential partners, at least initially, like supporting characters in their own life. But every long term relationship comes with sacrifice, disappointment, boredom and so on. If you keep being focused on what you as an individual get out of it, you cannot keep up. There needs to be a point where you love this person so much you no longer think in terms of "what do I get out of this", "is it really everything I ever pictured", "what drawbacks does this pairing have".

>>33286828
I'm talking about people who look out of the window and pretend nothing is happening when a crazy guy gets on the bus

It's not even what she does with the dick, but her looking up

>>33286846
How is that a red flag

>>33286838
Flashbacks not really, at least not in the literal visual sense, premonitions yes.

>>33286823
damn, thats some forbidden knowledge you got there. any thoughts on this:

1. He gets easily offended.

2. He avoids responsibility.

3. He needs constant validation.

4. He crumbles under pressure.

5. He disrespects women to feel powerful.

6. He talks more than he acts.

7. He envies other men.

8. He lies to impress.

9. He fears being alone.

10. He blames others for his failures.

>>33286838
Yes, having lots of dark flashbacks atm and having premonitions about doomsday

>>33286846
That is just sensible, eye contact is antagonizing especially to someone already unstable. You can be happy to get into a fight or conflict once it's inevitable and still like to avoid it if possible.

>>33286673
I love women I'm just a nutcase

>>33286810
>Do women even notice that it's happening?
Yes
If they do, do they care at all? Or is it just a big joke for you?
Most don't care because they like to characterize these men as undesirable that are better off out of the dating pool or lump them with the bad men they've dated in the past.

>>33286813
>Why do zoomer women love tattoos so much?
Millennials are much worse, but it's the desire for outward expression.

>>33286838
>Have you been experiencing flashbacks
Yes, when exposed to trauma triggers. A particularly bad one was while watching the Nightmare on Elm Street remake.

>>33286839
>Why do you think you are better than them? You have basically the same culture and history
I don't think I'm better (jokes aside) but we do have our own histories, despite many parallels.

everyone is just larping like they're not the most autistic autist who ever autisted. Women, men, no one ever admits they don't know how to really idk treat people or be social. They just fake something that resembles what they think being a human is like so no one shames them publicly for being clueless.

>>33286848
This is so true. Having a woman on her need fellating you has to be the most amazing feeling ever. Hand on the back of her head while she stares up in reverence or submission literally sucking your dick or licking your balls. Her mouth, nose, lips, all intimate with your manhood as she basically surrenders power to you.

FUCK.

>>33286818
But it's like 60-70% of them with tattoos at this point? But if so, that's even more disgusting.

>>33286863
>>33286854
It's funny when women say "men bad" 24/7 like it's a grand revelation, but when men say "women bad" they are quite literally stunned as though they've heard the most untrue statement ever.

>>33286854
The only one I disagree with is disrespecting women to feel powerful. Degradation is fucking based and having power and authority over women is an absolute deal breaker for me. I will bully her to the fucking bottom until she leaves or accepts her place.

>>33286871
Women can be bad, but it's often a result of being hurt by men. That doesn't excuse women blaming all men or treating men who haven't wronged them unfairly, but it is what it is.

>>33286871
You know damn fucking well that it's two sides of people who both hate each other and who both think they're better than the other. Don't do this dishonest "I have epicly stunned them with my hatred" bullshit

>>33286854
Those seem like chatgpt but of those the most damning are needing validation and lying

>>33286858
Agree that eye contact is a bad idea, but dont try to turn invisible and bury your head either

>>33283882
Well I just apologised to the multiple groups of friends for not being able to go on the trips and made excuses and sent them the money (/promised to send some more when I have more money cause I'm a fucking broke loser rn, but just had another job interview with a MILF that went well) and ghosted and blocked all those fuckers, also talked to my ex more then ghosted and blocked her too, and even my own mother who kept asking for things
Fucking hate happy normies that I have nothing in common with. I'm doing them all a favour frankly and vice versa. Just going to hone in 100% on being a villain

>>33286865
What do you mean by being social? I just do what I want and try not to hurt others too much

Anons what is your recommended tea tin skip to nap time? I can never fall asleep
in cars.

>>33286863
>Millennials are much worse, but it's the desire for outward expression.
I dont know where you live but in my part of the world, zoomer women absolutely love these little slut tattoos. Though the big ones are more common in millenial women
>pic
The diffrence is that for most (young) women loneliness is a choice, while it isnt for men

>>33286837
You're more likely to get genital herpes your first time and or cold sores.

>>33286863
>pic
lol cat people never recovered from that one huh

State gender
How do we know we're not a chinese room on legs?

>>33286883
>The diffrence is that for most (young) women loneliness is a choice, while it isnt for men
Men could just go to prison and never feel lonely again.

>>33286810
M but answering anyway
>do women notice
I don't think most do, women are already incapable of discerning sexual interest from relationship interest, so long as there's a guy willing to fuck them they think things are fine. Obviously the number of men looking to seriously date has dropped a lot, but women don't realize it until they make a conscious effort to date seriously, which again very few do.

>>33286892
What did anon say

>>33286883
I can never get over how fucking retarded tattoos, belly and nipple piercings, septum piercings, tongue piercings, and facial piercings in general all. The easiest filter ever to see if a woman is absolutely fucking irredeemably retarded.

Literal walking human garbage lmao.

Men, what if I got super buff and branch pressed you?

>>33286903
You couldn't.

>>33286901
I honestly find one or two of these tattoos on women hot, makes them seem like total whores but doesnt make them that much more ugly

>>33286901
NTA
>facial piercings in general all. The easiest filter ever to see if a woman is absolutely fucking irredeemably retarded.
Rude

>>33286879
Chad shit

>>33286865
This place is full of normies who don't struggle with mental health
Cope harder
>>33286695
Women hate non-chads, vibrators do a better job

>>33286826
It's not really the same, women haven't been making a conscientious decision to "check out" they've just sort of been left out since men, who are usually the active pursuers, have stopped coming. 4B is a joke, every woman in it would fuck the first hot guy that said hello to them.

>>33286906
I could

>>33286912
I'm 370 lbs. You can't fucking do it bitch.

>>33286909
Stay safe anon, seriously
Still going to try and act as normal as possible IRL so I don't get sent back to the psych ward and I advise that you do the same.
These people hate us, they want us to suffer. They want to dissect our brains and use them to build robots to fight in the doomsday. You need to look out for yourself because nobody else fucking will.

>>33286894
Sure and women can find their love of their life in a truck stop mens room

>>33286901
I'm a guy with a tattoo and I don't feel particularly like human garbage

>>33286916
IM DETERMINED

>>33286918
That's my point. Just because you have the option to not be alone doesn't mean it's a good option.

>>33286919
You are.

>>33286903
Hot , love natural buff girls

>>33286927
Welp I'm convinced

>>33286911
>women haven't been making a conscientious decision to "check out"
Those voices are there too, that's literally what 4B is, regardless of how big/successful the movement is.

Besides does it have to be a conscious decision if there is a constant underlying message that time spent on men is time wasted? When women are constantly encouraging each other to value friendship, careers, their family etc over romantic relationships? Encourage each other to have sky high standards? Encourage each other to stay single for a while to "find themselves"?

>since men, who are usually the active pursuers, have stopped coming
Not like you will have a hard time finding men on dating apps if you want. At most women would have to lower their standards or look beyond their usual type.

>4B is a joke, every woman in it
I mean I can say the same for incels. It is impossible to know if it is true, who is "sour grapes" and who's in it for real.

>>33286922
I will crush you and you will suffocate under my back fat.

>>33286929
>super buff
>natural
You're like the guy who posts a woman wearing makeup and says "I love women without makeup".

>>33286935
You may be more than three times my size, but I will bench press you

>>33286876
Unless a woman hurts a child she is immune from punishment/criticism. She can do literally anything to anyone and everyone will just say "lol. lmao." and start victim blaming whoever is stuck with the aftermath.

>>33286877
I will always respond to bait, that's not changing anytime soon.

>>33286938
This sounds like a metaphor for getting ferociously plapped

>>33286903
>>33286906
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I have never before witnessed such a powerful conversation