Thread 33294277

ITT We ask the opposite gender anything. (With a few exceptions: see below).

Note: the clue is in the name. If you're not replying to another anon, your post should be in the form of a question, and directed at people of the opposite gender to you. This is NOT the place for blog posts.
(Seriously, take that shit to Plebbit.) Nor is it a chat-room.

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Previously on ATOGA: >>33291074

Finally a fresh fucking thread

>>33294277 (OP)
>- DON'T, unless the old one has hit the image limit or reached page 9.
>>33288384
>- DON'T, unless the old one has hit the image limit or reached page 10.

M or F
Why do you think OP is so obsessed with making these threads?
It's the same guy because both of them have stock images as their pictures.

Why do men?

eating strange biscotti dipped in a 'protein butter' and garnished with slices of dried orange while we drank clean, non-bitter coffee.

would femanon pass the vibe check in this moment?

Women, describe what appeals to your female gaze

>>33294289
Things my eyes fall on

>>33294285
>'protein butter'
Is this literally just protein powder and butter?

>>33294291
So anything

What's stopping girls from getting a thigh tattoo for their bf

>>33294283
F
Idk I think they are incel and this is the only way they will ever hold the smallest of power

>>33294277 (OP)
I'm M30+ and still live in my moms property (not under the same ceiling though) located in a small, shitty town. I've lived in big cities in my country and in a neighboring country, but half of this house is mine because I helped her buy it. I hate her, I think she's narcissistic bitch and she's done me a lot of bad, but it's my house (partly) and I don't like wasting money on rent to pay someone elses mortgage, so fuck it.
a major problem is that the house is so shit that I'll have to spend money fixing it because it's in a terrible state. I feel ashamed of this crappy house so I don't invite people here, ever, not even women... and I have no clue what to do to find a gf in this situation, so I'll have to spend money fixing my part of it.

state nationality.
question for women: would you feel bad if I invited you, knowing that my house is shit and I still live with my mom?
question for anyone: do you think I should fix the house or leave this shit for a big city and try to meet and fuck as many women as possible?

>>33294296
not being dumb
>>33294285
the heck is protein butter now

>>33294303
American.
I'm still not answering your question.

>>33294304
Why would it be dum

Ptooey, your questions SUCK!

>>33294305
ok. fuck yuo

>>33294300
>>33294283
>men do shit
>women consume shit
tale as old as time

What does sex feel like for a woman?

>>33294296
>what's stopping girls from getting a tattoo
nothing. tats are gang symbols turned fashion pieces. women gobble that shit up. safe gangsterism.

What does it feel like for a woman to come home drunk and fart in bed?

>>33294289
Nice people?

>>33294283
The 1st FAQfag is ENTJ!

>>33294318
good one

Why the hell is this peanut butter so liquidy

State gender
Which baby?

>>33294321
It's organic fren.

>>33294321
I cumes in it

>>33294310
Making a thread is what men do. Ok incel, you represent all men lol

Do women like Yotsuba?

>>33294324
>>33294325
Well I did get organic. I tried mixing it around but it's still so oily liquidy i fucking poured it onto my toast lol

>>33294277 (OP)
Women, what type of swimsuit style and pattern do you find sexy on a man?

>>33294326
i'd sooner get off my lazy ass and make a thread than you

>>33294328
I was so excited to answer and then I realized you're askingh women lol

Women, what style do you set 4chan to?

>>33294332
Just answer, fag

>>33294331
Making a thread requires getting off your lazy ass, I can see how that’s an accomplishment for incels

>>33294328
Which one?

>>33294333
default, yotsuba b

>>33294333
Idk what that means

>>33294336
And yet i guarantee every one of these threads was made by a basement dwelling penis possessor. Women lack initiative.

>>33294321
check the ingredients
peanut butter should just be peanuts, salt
but due to boomer food-comes-from-the-grocery-store consoooomers not caring one iota about what's actually in what they eat, and wanting to easily spread their butter- because food being anything less than artificially dyed appealing colors and turned into the perfect texture in a laboratory for convenience- is beneath them, a lot of peanut butter makers dilute the expensive creamified peanuts with hydrogenated oils, which give peanut butter a more liquidy consistency.
the oils will eventually naturally seperate and it becomes more liquidy at the top than the bottom of the jar

>>33294342
nta
This is true, my mom likes getting the shit with corn syrup like jif or skippy. I'm trying to get her to understand that shit is horrible

>>33294342
>>33294343
Oh fuck, I've been eating skippy or whatever my entire life. This shit says peanuts and sea salt, that's it. Dang. Me brainlet American moment...

>>33294343
I'm curious desu. I usually get the cheap grocery brand. I had the organic shit through family sometimes. It's like spreading watery mayonnaise.

>>33294321
>>33294345
>Anon doesn't know American food is literal poison

>>33294346
Meant to include it
why organic over normal

>>33294319
Based on this >>33294310 response, I agree

Why is the prospect of going on a date so scary?

>>33294347
Man, unrelated but ketchup is nasty as fuck. I'm number 1 ketchup hater in the world.

>>33294347
Then why 'ritish teeth are like that?

>>33294341
Loud and proud incel

>>33294346
Do you stir it? Cause you're supposed to do that.
>Why organic over normal
Peanuts and Salt is healthier than Peanuts + vegetable/palm oil + sugar + salt + glycerides
Also, imo it tastes better. If you want your peanut butter sweeter just put some honey on it. Even the cheap grocery brand stuff has real peanut butter. Kroger is actually respectable, its just called natural peanut butter

I’m the anon who is currently on a break with my gf. I was reading some ancient texts between us, one that stood out to me, that she sent, read
>I initiate the big stuff, I was the one that started talking to you, I’ll probably have to be the one to ask to move in together, etc…
Knowing her, this is probably something that still occasionally lingers in her head. Would it be best to give her the space she desires for a couple weeks and then “ask her out” again or however you go from being on a break to back in a relationship or would it just be best to wait for her to come around?
>inb4 it’s over blah blah blah
I’ll save your keyboard the cheeto dust - don’t reply

>>33294356
>put honey on it
I feel like this is the answer to everything you want sweeter lol

>>33294347
I'm not even mad that the food is shit. What gets me is that you can find innumerable vids of jap gas stations with shit that is michelin star compared to american gas station food. we're supposed to be the kings of shitty fast food and a bunch of gooks are showing us up like it's nothing.

>>33294352
nta
based, me too

>>33294353
>Then why 'ritish teeth are like that?
Bongs are a unique case.

>>33294351
Have you done it yet? First is like your first job interview, of course it's scary.
Afterwards it's scary because you can't believe the state of clown world and despair at the prospect of finding a girlfriend before you're old

I have premature ejacutation problem, I cum early
when making love with gf, I go down on her / touch her until she has her orgasm then we proceed to fuck for the second round which lasts about 5min
still she's not happy

what do?

>>33294366
Get on zoloft, you'll still get hard but you'll have trouble nutting.

>>33294362
Yeah well japs are psycho mode with their 7/11s and food in general.
>we're supposed to be the kings of shitty fast food
Yeah, we are. We are the kings of SHITTY fast food

>>33294366
Use that numbing gel on your dick. Hopefully it doesn't make your dick fall off if you use it too much.

>>33294365
I have done it before but not on purpose. Also I’m not old and I’m not a man.

>>33294374
What are you scared of then? That the guy has a dungeon in his basement with soundproof walls?
That's a possibility.

>>33294356
>stir
yes. it's still mayonnaise.
>organic
i'll grant you, the organic shit does have a nice flavor. I'm just in the habit of grabbing whatever the cheapest version of something is off the shelf. aside from bread, cheap bread has mold on it by the time you are halfway home.

Please shame me so that I have an apple as a snack instead of ice cream

>>33294376
Not exactly helping

>>33294369
feels bad man. I remember living off gas station food and mentally masturbating to jap gas station food. If we had that here i'd park a tent in the woods across from 7/11 and gladiator fight to the death any cunt that told me to move.

>>33294382
Date a good class of crazy and you won't have to worry, he'll be polite and ask permission, even work around your schedule to keep you captive when you're off work.

>>33294379
Do you like peaches? Apples are nice, but peaches are fruit heaven. Either which way, each your fucking fruits or you're going to get smacked.

>>33294392
I do they them but I dont have peaches, only apples and cherries.

>>33294337
Yotsuba&!

>>33294284
Because we're bawss ass niggas.

>>33294392
I am a huge slut for peaches. You could even say I'm a peachcel.

>>33294379
You dirty whore, You like that? I bet you fucking do.

>>33294379
I just sat on a kitchen floor eating out of a giant gallon tub of cookies and cream ice cream because it's 3:00 am and I'm spiraling and havent done anything all night except masturbate and shitpost on atoga.
I'm a miserable loser and predatory asshole that desperately wishes for death, but doesn't have the balls to do it.
The only thing you have to do is not eat the fucking ice cream. Are you really so fucking pathetic that you have the same amount of willpower as human garbage?

>>33294403
O_O

>>33294406
eat the fucking apple, bitch

>>33294403
hot if foid
not if moid

>>33294408
That's not me, anon. I actual;ly have an apple in the fridge that I should eat but I am eating peanut butter and toast right now. I haven't had ice cream in 2 years.

>>33294379
Fat little piggy. Oink for us.

>>33294394
people either love cherries or hate them in my experience. As far as apples, i don't know what moldovan village you live in but you can get green apples they are more sour if you prefer that. strawberries and grapes are good but expensive. If you want to stick to apples, just divide them. You can munch on small apple bits while doing other things.

>>33294399
lol. I wish peaches weren't so seasonal. same with pork. i get it cheap as beans for a bit then it disappears.

>>33294417
Yeahh. Also also I love cutting fruit. Idk why but it's so fun to cut fruit. It just feels good. And this might be a hot take but fruit tastes better when it's cut into fat slices. Exceptions would be small stuff like cherries and idk strawberries. But all those bigger fruits taste better when cut.

Mainly Women, but men fine too, just state your gender

How do I "sexualize" my girlfriend more?

She complained recently I don't sexualize her enough, and I feel stumped. We give ourselves hj/bj almost daily, and I touch her throughout the day plenty. When I asked her what she wants, she wasn't sure, so I'm trying to mind read here, but that's another issue.

State gender
Which one has the better jokes?

>>33294417
> people either love cherries or hate them in my experience.
I love them personally. I would eat the cherries but I already had some earlier.

>>33294425
>We give ourselves hj/bj almost daily, and I touch her throughout the day plenty.
She wants you to use your words, not just your hands like she's a fleshlight.

Either gender
Have you ever used a dating app?

>>33294357
>space she desires
what she desires is not space, but feeling like you actually want to spend your life with her
she desires space because she does not feel like you actively desire her to be a part of your live
basically, she‘s frustrated that after all these years you still have not proposed and thinks you just stay out of convenience and not because you think she‘s so awesome you want to seal the deal before she slips through your fingers

Imagine going through hell in order to get a girlfriend, an effort that literally takes 5-10 years, and then she's disappointed because you cum too early. Relationships with women are fucked.

>>33294433
She hates any kind of dirty talk (which is fine by me), and I'm much more enthusiastic/explore more when fingering her than when she does stuff for me

>>33294366
work on pelvic floor muscles
maybe go for that thing where guys grip their dick too hard when they jack off so it's harder for em to cum with an irl girl

>>33294442
>going through hell in order to get a girlfriend, an effort that literally takes 5-10 years
lol, skill issue

>>33294445
It's accurate. Most men are implicitly undesirable.

>>33294442
Yeah, they are. Not like we have the option to be born in another time period, though. Gotta do our best in this one.

>>33294445
He's right if you want a gf of good quality. I wonder how many of you just settled for some fat slut and then spend your time here coping by telling guys how easy it is to get a gf kek

>>33294443
>She hates any kind of dirty talk
What does dirty talk mean to you?
If you think calling her a bitch/cunt/slut/whore means dirty talk then you need to think more broadly.
Dirty talk can be compliments as well,

>>33294439
F
Yes

>>33294450
and they are not meant to be in a relationship, thats like someone with an IQ of 67 trying to get into harvard and moaning that they have to work so hard and much more than the actually bright kids
yeah doofus, because it‘s supposed to be a filter, you‘re not supposed to go there

>>33294452
sorry, I‘m not gay

I’m eating the apple :)

>>33294460
EVE NOOOOO

>>33294430
i didn't laugh at either. they both suck.

Why do women have a million things going on in their rooms? Like LED lighting, posters, plushies, etc. I notice they also play games such as Sims, Stardew valley, and Animal crossing where you just decorate rooms a ton. Is this some sort of evolutionary nest-building strategy?

>>33294456
That's not really an accurate comparison. What about all the fat bitches walking around with fit tall guys in 2025? This is only possible because of the current hypergamy.

>>33294466
>Is this some sort of evolutionary nest-building strategy?
obviously

How many dates should you go on with a person before you delete dating apps?

>>33294469
pussy makes the rules, all you can do is stare and seethe

>>33294473
three

>>33294460
*Headpats*
Good.

>>33294453
dirty talk is complements if you take it the right way :D

>>33294357
I didn't care then and I still don't care now

>>33294475
>all you can do is stare and seethe
Kek, why would I seethe if they're with fatties I wouldn't touch, fucking retard?

>>33294485
idk but you are seething rn

>>33294479
I added peanut butter. I don’t know what’s wrong with me because the apple is lowkey more enjoyable and I’m lactose intolerant

>>33294453
Yeah, I know, but I think we may be too autistic for that since all the times we have tried in the past, we would just both laugh at our attempts. And we really tried being serious about it, not exaggerate it. We talked about it and we both didn't feel like we miss anything from it.

>>33294485
>t.

>>33294489
God damn it. You had one job.

>>33294485
to clarify, you are staring and seething because you see girls you think are beneath you with guys above you, which means the girls you actually want are out of orbit for you

>>33294496
It was one tbsp I think I’ll live lol

>>33294475
>Pussy makes the rules
Enjoy losing your right to abortion, birthright citizenship and soon the vote kek

Femanons, are there any porn videos you recommend?

>>33294500
you guys keep threatening to take our rights away but so far it‘s just empty yapping because you would need to stick together to achieve that and too many men in strategic positions still enjoy the sexually liberated pussy they get, so you have a long way to go to achieve unity on the matter
once you manage to do that, I‘ll pat your back and say good job matthew, you actually did it
until then, stare and seethe
may the best (wo)man win

>>33294503
Lemme text your mom real quick and see if she kept them

>>33294503
the one where I pee in your moms mouth while she tries to read out loud the teachers note from your last school year

>>33294503
The one where you use your imagination, fuckwit.

>>33294505
Nta and nag but that seems like a lot of flimsy cope.
Those at the top don't need the pussy to be sexually liberated, they can just take what they want, hell most of them import it anyways.
Most of the empty yapping is testing the waters and it's stuff theyll do the second they can.
It's remarkably well coordinated imo

>>33294453
>>33294425

Forgot to write in previous post, but I think "not sexualizing enough" might be something kink related. "Slut/whore" kind of talk might actually be something she wants. Ofc, I'll talk about it with her before doing anything.

I'm think this might be the case, because while she always said she is pretty vanilla and does not have kinks of her own, she is very shy, and there might still be something she is afraid to talk about.

>>33294497
Yeah, that's how it is for 99% of men, we are forced to settle because of hypergamy. I doubt those Chads are happy also because it's obvious to everyone and they most likely cheat on those girls.

>feel love pangs again
Stop.

>>33294506
>>33294508
>>33294509
Why so angry?

>>33294514
No, they don‘t need it. But for some reason they like it enough to keep it a thing anyways.
>testing the waters and it's stuff theyll do the second they can
obviously, but wether that second ever comes or not remains to be seen
>remarkably well coordinated
time will tell

>>33294456
Men with a higher IQ are more likely to be single and never marry.

>>33294520
I just like a good yo mama

bored and feel like drawing. any requests? must be guy/girl preferably cute, i am a one trick pony

>>33294517
not my problem

>>33294519
Someone posted the eye contact video and I'm still having them, a few days later.

>>33294525
Ew.

>>33294525
>i am a one trick pony
Draw a one trick pony.

>>33294527
Eye contact video?

>>33294505
>you guys keep threatening to take our rights away but so far it‘s just empty yapping because you would need to stick together to achieve that and too many men in strategic positions still enjoy the sexually liberated pussy they get, so you have a long way to go to achieve unity on the matter once you manage to do that, I‘ll pat your back and say good job matthew, you actually did it
until then, stare and seethe
may the best (wo)man win
What do you mean? We got Trump in office, groundwork has been laid, we got Peter Thiel working on it. Also a lot of women are anti-abortion so there's that, a lot of them are conservative. You just need to take the vote away from the wrong ones

Rome wasn't built in a week but it's close, one election away

>>33294522
which shows that zoo high of an IQ makes you unviable and unfit for procreation, IOW natural selection selects against it
tough luck

>>33294530
fk.. okay i'll try

>>33294520
>shitposting means you are angry
unreal

>>33294527
The what now?

>>33294532
>>33294537
>>33285997

>>33294535
Good girl, I believe in you.

>>33294533
as I said, am waiting, I‘ll believe it when I see it and then I‘ll give you a high five for being such a good boy that did the thing lol

>>33294525
Draw yourself, you are CUTE!

>>33294540
Thanks honey

>>33294538
Ok, but I still don't understand your statement.

>>33294520
It's worth noting that ENTJ isn't a woman.

>>33294545
Yeah, I don't feel like watching it. Where's the transcript

I lowkey want to send a bunch of my money to third-world egirls. Knowing they get to live like royalty compared to those around them because they chose to give me attention makes me feel powerful.

>>33294545
It causes heartbreak and feelings of yearning. Physical discomfort.

>>33294550
You should send them ant****

>>33294550
Don't fucking do it.

>>33294550
Swems like a waste of time.
Just import them for a week and fuck them for real?

>>33294555
Does it? Oh wait, cortisol in abdomen, stress, love pangs.

>>33294519
You didn't forget about me, did you?

>>33294555
I see.
Kind of an extreme reaction to that video.

>>33294562
>woman
L m a o

>>33294562
She's so cute I'd kill for a gf like that, I'd simp harder than the force of a thousand suns, I'd do anything for a girl that good looking

She's so perfect I tear up

>>33294568
Women really are the best
>>33294565
>L m a o
Do you hate women?
Are you a homosexual?

>>33294569
I'm not homosexual. So her staring into my eyes just makes me question what she wants

>33294571
sue tee thing bro

never watched my little pony but i saw a cute one recently

>>33294577
do you know what clopping is

>>33294578
lmao

>>33294577
I am not seei g the "one trick" part though..

Women, have you ever checked out a woman's cleavage?

>>33294580
the one trick is putting the same hair on everything to cover the face

>>33294550
If you must, just go to some combloc country and court a gal. idk why you would send to e-girls.

Men, do you love your mother?

>>33294569
Guh

>>33294585
I haven't talked to her in 15 years so probably not

>>33294580
idk she's like tap dancing or something. trick is being cute

>>33294568
she looks absolute average
like the picture perfect definition of "average looking white woman"

>>33294585
Ya

>>33294590
wtf average looking white women are super cute

>>33294538
Credit to slav women, they know how to milk money from horny western dudes. I'll continue to make uncomfortable eye contact with the gal ringing up my 2nd bottle of liquor today because idgaf.

>>33294590
She's way cuter than most girls, cuter than most models

>>33294577
Anon, I think you should delete the image at least.

>>33294590
What's wrong with that?

>>33294603
Why would you grab a stranger's waist

>retards gushing over eastern euro prozzies
get a room faggots

>>33294607
Nothing wrong with sexwork

>>33294581
Obviously.

Girl I started dating likes Lars von Trier movies. Should I break up?

>>33294593
yeah
>>33294596
you are on crack cocaine
>>33294605
to sexually harass or grope them

>>33294589
>>33294583
Alright, I'll let it slide this time. Gonna get a headpat for doing well.

>>33294607
Eastern euro prostitutes are attractive to most people on the planet. Why do you think that 90% of the world's non-budget sex trafficking is eastern euro? The only reason the world is full of asian massage parlors is because they're cheap and plentiful

Women
Would this pick up line work on you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us5MGEL5W34

>>33294621
another shitty day in my gay fakecel realcel faggot moid life

>>33294621
No. Guys talking about their cocks the day I meet them will always be a red flag to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iVlSNpq8i8
>>33294598
but it was a request... >>33294530 maybe i should have catboxed it?

>>33294543
:p

>>33294609
>>33294617
>obliterated by ww2
>soviet economics
>90's soviet collapse
>>>gee, lot of slav prozzies
Whoremongers are the first to complain of whore tendancies, whores exist to placate the whoremonger.

The biggest hypocrite screams the loudest.

>>33294624
>maybe i should have catboxed it?
Maybe, I don't know. There's a rule against posting pony content outside of the designated board.

>>33294627
i can't delete it anymore anyways so

I now regret having eating canned fished last night, because my kitchen still has that odor in it...

>>33294614
>you are on crack cocaine
How??? She has dark hair, cute bangs, a smoking hot outfit. She's at least 8/10

Are you a girl or a guy bcs you seriously suck at evaluating hotness

>>33294634
Why are you mentioning shit that's irrelevant to being attractive. She would be exactly as attractive if she was shaved bald and naked. Her eye shape isn't ideal, her cheekbones are not very pronounced, she has a wide philtrum, she has a masculine large round nose, her jawline and chin are masculine.

>>33294636
Oh yeah, you're definitely a woman.

>>33294603
mole mole mole
gross

>>33294636
What

>>33294638
I'm a man. You're not being objective because you're a mentally ill incel.

>>33294639
>4/10 moles
m8

>>33294641
>mentally ill incel.
I love women, you're the incel.

>>33294643
You love ugly women. Here's an example of an optimally designed female human.

>>33294642
no she's pretty but that shit is too big

It's interesting how little variation there are between women's personality. Every woman in the 20 to 40s range is so extremely cookie cutter.
They like festivals.
They like partying.
They like getting dressed up.
They're loosely artsy, but rarely practice.
They're outgoing.
They don't like sports.
They like the same few pop artists.

This isn't a "omg normal people are so passé and I am so much superior post", it's just that you never meet women that are into sports, or women that are homebodies, or women that like idk fishing or some shit. They're basically almost all of them very similar.

>>33294644
>optimally designed female human.
You posted the wrong image, here you go.

>>33294649
>it's just that you never meet women that are into sports, or women that are homebodies, or women that like idk fishing or some shit.
No it's just that (You) never meet those women.
>nooo selection bias isn't real I meet all the women in the world despite never leaving the town I grew up in

>>33294651
Looks like she would age poorly. Sub optimal, would not reproduce with.

>>33294649
True. You forgot how much they all love heckin travelling.

>>33294646
Let's be fucking real. I'd plow that shit like the field in spring. Either you would too, or not. /tv/ has this weird hybrid of raging faggots and heterosexual men that mashed into this retarded shit. Which side are you on?

>>33294654
And food and dogs.

>>33294653
>Sub optimal, would not reproduce with.
Thank you for your valued opinion sir.

>>33294636
>>33294590
Some kind of severe mental illness.

>>33294649
This is the result of everyone "working on themselves" through the Instagram role models.

>>33294657
where'd you get this picture of me saar take it down now

>>33294652
I've met a similar number of men and women and men have much more diverse personalities and interests, this is just something I've noticed.

>>33294644
Her cheeks are weird

>>33294661
Are you stupid? Girls get into obscure or non standard interests when they get fucked by a guy who has obscure or non standard interests. If you want a gf who is interested in the same shit as you just date any girl under 20 whose brain hasn't calcified.

I fainted during sex with my gf and now she's afraid of doing it with me again, how do I convince her i wasn't because she was going too hard on me, she was on top, but because I tend to faint when overly stimulated or excited? it's something I've had since I was a kid.

Men, would you rather date somebody whos fat, or somebody who has loose skin after weightloss

>>33294661
this
>>33294652
definitely a cope post

>>33294664
You should tell her that. You should also let her know it doesn't scare you or hurt you for it to happen, and that you enjoy her physical company despite your condition. A fainting bf sounds cute, but having him suddenly go soft and unresponsive in the middle of sex sounds both shocking and frustrating.

>>33294665
neither, why

>>33294652
i've seen plenty of women basically admit they want a guy with special interests so he can tell them about it instead of just developing special interests themselves lmao

>>33294665
Someone who picks up the bar, which is currently lying on the floor.

>>33294664
Talk about it in the presence of a family member or childhood friend who can relate and knows. I mean, don't mention it happened during sex of course, just say "gf is freaked out because I passed out, can you confirm this is just a me thing" and have her hear anecdotes from someone else. An added benefit is that people around you are more likely to be able to tip her very concrete warning signs (like your gaze becoming blurry or whatever) that you might not even be aware of yourself.

If the condition has a name, it can also help to look it up and show her that it's a legitimate thing.

>>33294644
>>33294662
Her lips look filled but her cheeks actually look normal to me.

>>33294665
If she's fat then she can get a fat transfer procedure done and get bigger tits. A win for all

>>33294669
that is the natural female condition and it's based

>>33294674
Oh yeah maybe its that

>>33294663
>>33294669
I don't talk about my weird interests in public, and especially around men, because I don't want to be judged. I only mention the conventional shit like gardening, baking, knitting and crocheting, etc.

>>33294665
M
Lose skin.

>>33294678
inb4 the special interests are uhhh true crime podcasts

>>33294636
What the fuck? Are you retarded? She's still cute because she dresses well and takes care of her style

>>33294663
>>33294669
>>33294678
quite frankly, most women are just too cowardly to have weird interests

>>33294682
>She's still cute because she dresses well and takes care of her style
You think like a woman. No wonder you're an incel. Female brain.

>>33294678
taxidermy?

>>33294665
M
Lose skin, because she is probably healthier now.

>>33294684
Sorry about you retardation anon, not everyone measures skulls

>>33294681
>>33294683
If I tell a guy I experiment with daphnia in my freetime, he'll think I'm a serial killer.

>>33294662
lmao

>>33294649
Go to the gym and you'll meet/see women into sports...

People are also less open about their quirks than about their most socially accepted likes and dislikes. I have also known a lot of guys who like traveling, drinking, sports, video games, sex and little else. They don't care for clothes/style. They act interesting by saying stuff like "I know a bit about lock picking" by which they mean they watched some videos on it. They definitely do not like any music/movie that could realistically be categorized as girly. They are snobby about beer. They find Beyonce overrated. They are the only person who can explain you why The Wire (or Sopranos or Breaking Bad or Black Mirror) is such an intelligent series. They love warning people that their humor is pret-ty dark and/or they're low key kind of crazy (they're not).

It does not mean that that's all there is to them. It just means that from a distance the stuff they have in common stands out more, and they actively have a desire to blend in and not stand out as a weirdo or antisocial guy or anything like that.

>>33294689
There's something about her face that I don't like. It's just making me uncomfortable. She's obviously not ugly, it's just odd looking at that picture.

>>33294677
Yeah I think so, it's the mouth and how it fits into the face that is jarring to me, I think both because her lips are (over)filled and because it's a rather rehearsed smile, so wide and still close-mouthed.

>>33294665
Loose skin but don't really care

>>33294688
do you have fish or something, or you just like messing with them for fun?

>>33294687
You should start.

>>33294688
See a man has more reason to fear coming off that way yet most men just say what things they like.
You're a wimp. That shit is cool and interesting

>>33294691
Ok. lol

>>33294695
I'd rather be content with a mid girl I see more beautiful than 90% of other girls on this planet

>>33294694
I originally took some from work to have a spare set in case the other tank populations crashed, now they're just my pets, pretty much. They were bred and bought for experimentation, so I don't feel too bad trying different things.

>>33294697
Why is it funny?

>>33294649
>what is selection bias
>>33294605
This lol
>>33294585
I love her but idk if she loves me

women what if we lived above 6000 feet above sea level

>>33294700
It's just rather ridiculous.

>>33294699
cool.

>>33294649
Same. I'd kill to meet a girl who reads as much as I do

>>33294698
>more beautiful than 90% of other girls on this planet
That means nothing, most humans are ugly subhumans that should be euthanized

>>33294704
I guess. But we all have different preferences when it comes to what we perceive as attractive.

Women
How much milk do you drink in a day?

Do you guys realize that 2005 was 20 years ago? The same amount of time has passed as between 1980 and 2000.

>>33294709
I love drinking strong ass coffee with lots of milk so it would not surprise me if I downed a liter a day on average honestly. I should probably cut down.

>>33294711
Yup. But that's still not as weird to me as getting used to people born in 2000 or even a bit after and being actually full-grown people (more or less).

>>33294712
>1 litre
not good enough, you need to drink double that

>>33294711
As somebody born in the 80s, yeah.
It can be a bit crippling and astonishing at times.
But it makes you wonder how it must be for your parents who have had that moment long ago already.

>>33294706
Do you actually go to literary events? I'm sure it depends on your region and how many there are but I have been going for like ten years and have yet to be at an event where women do not make up the majority.

I'm talking reading circles, writers' workshops (both paid and free for all), literature festivals, Q&A with authors... All female dominated audiences.

>>33294719
No.....

>>33294717
I'm honestly unconvinced. I know there's a lot of mixed messages on just how healthy milk is or isn't, but I feel there is little contention about it being less healthy than products like yogurt, and I can definitely tell for example if I'm even a little bit under the weather, the milk really makes the mucus and clogging up so much worse, irritates my throat etc. It is also just intense to process for your body, it's not for no reason that people tend to often be lactose intolerant in cultures where cow's milk isn't a staple since a very young age...

I'll never stop enjoying it but it doesn't feel the heatlhiest to me personally.

>>33294720
Try it! I forgot to include poetry slams but those are good too especially because they tend to be more explicitly social events than e.g. interviews with writers.

>>33294721
are you north american?
>It is also just intense to process for your body,
I believe this is the opposite of the case. Milk is nutrient dense and quickly digested provided you aren't lactose intolerant

>>33294725
Nah, Eurofag.

Apparently you are right, Google says it really is just some individuals that find it particularly challenging, not overall. That's something at least!

>>33294665
Weightloss.

>>33294439
Lol short queen
Anyway M and yes tried Tinder many years ago, went out with some real baddies

>>33294719
Nta but are there any book clubs out there for stupid people
In highschool I went to one bc my English teacher was hot and suggested it, but the girls kept using words I didn't understand and I was lost
I would like to get back into reading and am currently reading a book but it's hard to stay focused with no pictures

>>33294730
I think somewhat, there's definitely reading clubs that get a kick out of tackling the most difficult books and then there's clubs that pride themselves on simply trying to enjoy the books they read more by discussing them in a group afterwards; those clubs usually just pick books that are generally very popular and are storyline-driven.

That said, I'm too old for Tiktok but apparently there's quite an active readers' community there too. Maybe it is more fun for you to just watch someone's content and look up words you don't know if you want to, before going out and being with others.

I think a lot of people now struggle with the attention span part (and opting to listen to audio books rather than reading from paper would be the most obvious "fix"), but continuing to push yourself and just do it really is the one and only way to make it easier to concentrate on just the writing. See it like training muscles, it's no different, if you read every day until your head hurts you'll find your condition grows.

It is totally normal to run into words you do not know when branching out with reading and part of the trick is not being intimidated by that, just look them up (score, new words) or ignore them the way you would ignore a comment in a movie you don't get. It's over once you start feeling stupid if you see a word you don't know, then reading won't be fun for obvious reasons, so try to prevent that.

Also graphic novels are different than comic books and some are very high quality. So I also recommend looking into that, though they can be quite expensive to buy new.

Do all capricorn moids make big fuss out of everything just for the sake of it

>>33294439
F, I have swiped for friends on tinder so I've seen a bit of what it can be like, but I never tried it with an account of my own.

>>33294742
Horoscopes aren't real....

>>33294439
F. Yes. It worked poorly when trying to meet guys and even worse when trying to meet girls. That shit is full of liars just looking to have an "exotic" hookup.

>>33294741
This is an amazingly thoughtful comment that I was not expecting in response to my shitpost lol, thank you <3

>>33294743
>F
>I have swiped for friends on tinder
Why would you sabotage your own friends?

>>33294746
Have you tried not being exotic?

>>33294742
Idk I'm incredibly dramatic about everything though and not capricorn

>>33294277 (OP)
Hello women, please give me validation please

Tell me I'm handsome and that you would date me and that I don't come across as autistic at all

>>33294751
That's not a mouse at all.

>>33294742
I will never understand this horoscope bullshit. I just know none of you actually believe this shit

>>33294748
I mean the kind of scenario where you're tipsy having drinks and they pull up their phone and start showing (potential) matches. I would still check with them if they were okay with it before swiping someone right.

>>33294711
That 70's Show was less far removed from the 70's than we are from the time when That 70's Show aired

>>33294751
I'm a man.

>>33294747
You're welcome anon, I am always happy to have a shot to help someone else enjoy reading more!

>>33294753
why do niggas get so bent out of shape about horoscopes? i think they're bullshit but who cares?

>>33294690
most women at the gym aren't into sports they just work out because they want to have a nice ass that men look at

>>33294760
Because pisces men are being ostracized...

>>33294749
I'm not even exotic. I'm just dark skinned.

>>33294585
I literally say shit like "I fucking hate you mom" like at least three times a day when I'm alone.

Yes I'm a complete basket case

>tfw ex wants me to come round for lunch
>don't feel like going but don't want to be selfish
What is a socially acceptable amount of time to spend before politely leaving...
Ideally I want to limit it to like an hour or two
Ik I will just end up spending all day there if I'm not assertive

>>33294764
Be a Scorpio Chad instead then. Just lie.

>>33294754
are you swiping for women or men?

>>33294752
correct

>>33294763
How many men do you think initially started working on their body, or even exploring their hobby, to be more interesting to the opposite sex? This is the human condition. Hard to tell extrinsic and intrinsic motivation apart and usually it's not one OR the other, they interact. If men actually cared about being strong rather than having an extra aesthetic body, they wouldn't do exercises explicitly called "body sculpting" aka designed to give you most bang for your buck in terms of visual transformation.

>>33294709
i add milk or cream to my tea every day. i have issues with being underweight, so i add more or less depending on what i weight

>>33294760
Why do you bother with it if it's bullshit?

>>33294769
The friend I did it most seriously for is not 100% straight but she had her profile set to men so it was just guys. Honestly the part I found hardest was how many guys have such a "me in the bathroom with deer in headlights look" blurry picture that there was absolutely no way to tell how they would look when making eye contact with a human, let alone smiling. But there were some good ones too, I managed to make one match she actually went on a fine enough date with.

>>33294772
Body building is more to impress other dudes. Same with power lifting, really. It's a dick measuring contest and camaraderie thing, I think.

>>33294774
i don't bother with it at all, tard, i don't understand the rage whenever it is mentioned

>>33294767
Seriously anon, don't. Not because it's so bad to go to a social event just to be polite. But in this case it is totally understandable you feel no desire and going against your own feelings erodes your self esteem over time. Seriously. You are allowed not to want to see your ex for lunch, you are allowed to blow her off. You don't owe her anything. Social stuff is only fun if it's fun for both of you, it should never be an obligation.

>>33294777
Because it's putting labels on people based on obvious nonsense.

>>33294779
So is psychiatry anymore, largely. It's become too convoluted and venn diagrammy.

>>33294780
truthnuke

>>33294757
Well fuck off then

Women, I enjoy the song Pink Pony Club by Chappell Roan but I don’t understand the meaning behind it. I just know that it slaps. Please enlighten me.

>>33294776
Good point and I think there is a lot of truth in it, but at the same time, competition between your own sex is also very much fueled by (impressions of) what the opposite sex wants, right? Like women tend to scrutinize each other's sexual history (if they do) a lot more detailed than men do, women in practice get slut shamed by each other more than by men, but the power of the slut-insult is always the implication that men will see you as less desirable, less worthy, less feminine, whatever. If tomorrow all men decided a woman who had had 10 partners was better than one who had had 1 partner, the insult would very quickly lose its sting.

This applies even when the source of competition is a delusion about what the opposite sex likes. A lot of women compete about the smallest details of their appearance, like most men even notice that. A lot of men compete over becoming the very biggest and strongest, which in practice is a more niche preference for women to have compared to "just" being reasonably fit.

>>33294783
It's probably just 'sexo sexo sexo, oppression, sexo, degradation, sexo'.

>>33294784
Women compete for resources and because we're petty bitches bith bare minimum loyalty to one another as soon as valuable dick comes along.
Male competition stems from ego, pride, and the sense of brotherhood

>>33294767
>>33294778
Also wanted to add that your fear of not being able to assert boundaries and call it a day early, is another great reason to just not go in the first place.

gf of two weeks is on a week long trip. shes been checking in regularly and very communicative, but somehow i worry that the chemistry will be gone when she’s back. how do i stop this train of thought

>>33294775
I mean, even if the pictures are high resolution and properly taken, it doesn't really matter. There are plenty of professional photographers with cameras worth over 5k who get a match maybe once a year, because they aren't in the gym enough or their immutable characteristics disqualify them.

>>33294289
short, black hair, dark eyes, triangle body shape, nice not thin lips, tattoos, piercings, tasteful jewelry, some semblance of a style of dress (not graphic tees)

>>33294786
This is just romantic and exaggerated bullshit to me I can't relate to at all, especially the idea that men will consistently pick friendship over love and sex, when men falling out or even physically fighting each other over a woman is such a trite theme throughout the history of storytelling.

>>33294772
To be fair as the other anon says no men gets into bodybuilding to attract women because women by and large find bodybuilders disgusting.
However I do agree with you, there is a lot of fakeness around exercise because you can't tell me you lift "for healthiness" while downing two monsters a day, doing zero cardio and seriously considering going on a cycle.

But that's really not what I was talking about. How many fat men not in shape do you know that still care about sports? Men who just play football or basket or stuff of the sort among men? Women by and large care very little about sports, especially competitive ones.
My only point is that on average when I meet a man and start prodding yeah, we're all similar but they almost always have a curveball interest or taste. With women this happens very rarely, they all like the exact same things. Oh I love traveling, oh I love food, I love nature, I love dancing and going to concerts and going out at night and the beach blah blah blah.

>>33294790
Sure, I just mean, the pic needs to give an impression of you (if you are) as friendly/approachable/fun loving. A lot of guys look straight up bored and depressed in their single shot. Or scary. That can work I guess if you are model tier handsome, but if you're an average looking guy, someone is going to feel drawn to you because you are an inviting and fun-seeming normal guy and not for the exact lines of your face.

>>33294780
I agree, to some extend. Most popular diagnoses overlap and are interchangeable anyway. ADHD, autism, trauma, anxiety, personality disorders, a lot of it will manifest in roughly the same ways. And it's not like they do a blood test or a brain scan, they just observe you and ask questions.

Yet people cling to that shit for dear life and make their specific label their entire personality

>>33294783
I only listen to one Chappel Roan song but I liked it. I should listen to more.

Will I become gay if I listen to too much Chappel Roan?

>>33294791
>triangle body shape
Okay but what way is the triangle facing?

>>33294796
You do realize that "fun-seeming" is exclusively up to women's interpretation and that you base your evaluation on past interactions with men who were not average? Besides, trying too hard is noticeable immediately in a picture. That must be why, when you swipe, you spend less than 5 seconds per guy.

>women don't need personalities because women will fuck them anyway
wow any other breakthroughs

>>33294799
No but there is a tipping point when you do
>>33294785
Boo you whore

>>33294795
>as the other anon says no men gets into bodybuilding to attract women because women by and large find bodybuilders disgusting.
Half agree. I think they also do it because regardless of what women think, feeling sexy yourself, feeling desirable, is a factor all of its own. Just like a lot of women know very well that a LOT of men prefer the girl next door-look (long natural hair, minimal make up, simple sundress, no tattoos/statement jewellery) but it is still very possible to just feel much sexier and much more "you" when you are rocking your own personal style, even if you know overall it'll be enjoyed less by men.

Some people also actively try to cater to their niche. There are not that many women into actual bodybuilders, but the ones that are, REALLY like it. In that sense you make the pool smaller but the potential of everyone in that pool bigger.

>How many fat men not in shape do you know that still care about sports?
Honestly not many at all, but I recognize that is also about the people I ended up working with, befriending etc. I have trouble thinking of any man I know who just plays football/basket instead of going to the gym or not being active at all. I am sure there are a lot more of them than women, though. But they exist. My sister is an avid jogger, she had to have knee surgery at some point and she was having actual drawback symptoms from missing the runner's high and the freedom of movement.

I do know a lot of women that enjoy doing sports do not enjoy watching them (including my sis) because it feels lame to watch it without being able to get involved.

>With women this happens very rarely, they all like the exact same things.
Again this is just not true. You can argue about distribution or whatever and that is impossible to prove. But quick example, I studied (uni) Celtic languages for a year - and I am not from a Celtic country - and I was there with another seven women, all women, who were crazy about dead languages.

Women
Do you talk in voice chat in games, and do you have any entertaining experiences from having done so?

>>33294778
Ughh now my roommates are having a BBQ tonight after work and inviting a bunch of people including her
Kill me now
>>33294787
Thanks anon <3 yeah I'd love to be able to just say that I don't feel up to it and not go, but I already agreed to it and the BBQ so looks like I have to spend all day with her now

>>33294801
>You do realize that "fun-seeming" is exclusively up to women's interpretation
Well yeah but I doubt there is anyone who would say someone having unsmiling resting face with dead eyes is "fun-seeming".

I do get what you're saying that you don't want to seem tryhard and I do think that plays into it. I also feel a lot of young guys feel ridiculous smiling without anyone there. Still though, most women are not going to agree to a date with a stranger who exudes zero friendliness.

>>33294805
Yeah, I do it whenever I want to get catcalled

>>33294788
Dude it’s only a week if the chemistry goes you never fucking liked her in the first place

>>33294808
Well they can either pick up the tiny chance to get lucky or leave it for someone else

>>33294807
There's also a difference between a friendly appearance and "seeming like a bunch of sexy fun" or whatever, but we don't need to restate that you aren't on dating apps to find serious relationships.

do i trust in the pull out method and the fact that my gf doesn’t want children?

>>33294799
Yes unfortunately if you listen to chappel roan you will immediately turn gay. It’s probably already too late.

>>33294796
>A lot of guys look straight up bored and depressed in their single shot.
I'm incapable of not looking bored or depressed in pictures, fuck my life. I'm a fairly friendly, warm guy irl too but I just have a blank expression like picrel. But then I also have a retarded dry sense of humor so half of my pics on these apps are some weird joke that seems like I'm just a weird serial killer because I look so deadpan and they of course don't know me and don't know that I'm not serious.

It's joever for me on dating apps man, or I have to straight up pretend to be someone else

>>33294277 (OP)
STOP DOING ATOGA THREADS, PLEASE LET US BE FREE

>>33294813
Do I at least get to choose if I top or bottom or does nature decide for me?

I don't want to get fucked in the ass bros...

>>33294816
Nope you’re a bottom

>>33294811
>There's also a difference between a friendly appearance and "seeming like a bunch of sexy fun"
That's right, but as I said, here the lack of friendliness or inviting vibes was the issue. The guys' faces looked like drawn curtains.

>you're not on apps
As I said at the very start of the chain, I have personally never done online dating for myself and the reason IS that I'm very aware a guy who would catch my eye irl probably wouldn't online. I don't think I would have swiped right on my now partner because he can also look really gruff. But he is very warm and kind and I saw that right away in real life.

>>33294814
Dating apps just suck but retarded humor is fine, even if 9/10 girls hate it, if you want something serious you're better off with fewer girls that vibe with your humor.

Also it is just a skill to take a great selfie and if you have anyone (even just your mom) you can ask, asking someone to shoot your picture in a conversation or outing where you are already being social and having fun is a lot easier than trying to seem all that in your bathroom.

>>33294819
>in a conversation or outing where you are already being social and having fun
Yeah uhm... about that...

Doesn't happen an awful lot

Women, what the fuck does it mean when a girl says that you have a "neighbour vibe"? A girl said that to me a while ago and it's been haunting me since then.

I’m gonna be more stupid. Other people my age are being stupid and I don’t think I’m doing enough of it because I overthink things too much. I don’t want older me to regret not being stupid enough.

>>33294818
It's over

>>33294806
>Ughh now my roommates are having a BBQ tonight after work and inviting a bunch of people including her
Seriously tell them afterwards they are free to invite who they want, but you will probably not show up if she's there. You sound like the kind of person very invested in seeming chill, but a drawback of that is a lot of people will conclude you don't care and it doesn't matter. It does.

>but I already agreed to it
You didn't enter a contract. Tell her you are helping your roommates organize the BBQ and you'll see her there anyway so you'd rather skip lunch, thanks for understanding. Or don't, if it really doesn't feel right, but realize this IS an actual option. You can assert yourself and influence things to prevent ending up in situations you don't want to be in.

>>33294783
This song is about a small-town Southern girl dreaming about the gay bar and drag club culture in West Hollywood, CA. She dreams of being a dancer at the “Pink Pony Club”, a fictional gay bar/drag club on Santa Monica Boulevard. She knows that her mom won’t be pleased, but she wants to follow her dreams anyways. According to an interview with Headliner Magazine, Chappell Roan wrote the song after a night out at The Abbey, a gay bar which is located just off Santa Monica Boulevard in West Hollywood.

>>33294822
A girl said to me that I have a "serial killer teddy bear" vibe. Trust me it can be worse

Where do I meet clingy gf

>>33294821
Find someone with a really cute puppy/kitten and have them photograph your face while holding them. Impossible to look like you hate life that way. Animal can be in the frame or not, it's about the vibe.

sir binge-a-lot is back

>>33294828
With her Chad bf.

>>33294822
It means you’re nice in a way that she’d feel comfortable to do things like asking for a cup of sugar or having a chat with, but the type of person she’d never really get to know on a deeper level I think. I could be wrong.

>>33294767
JUST DATE HER AGAIN ALREADY

>>33294819
>better off with fewer girls that vibe with your humor
>fewer
NTA but lmao. The real dating pool is already extremely small, let's make it even smaller to the point where it no longer exists.

>>33294825
>you will probably not show up if she's there
I live in the house though and they're gonna drag me out to help and eat with them, I can't really avoid it kek
>you'd rather skip lunch
I just told her this and she got mad so I'm gonna see her anyway
I'm a doormat, but this is probably better than bedrotting all day at least

>>33294829
But I do hate life and I never leave my room, I literally know nobody.

I don't really have any business being on dating apps anyway I guess, I should fix my life first

>>33294812
Anal only, no matter how strong you think your pullout game is it’s never strong enough

Where do I meet a chad bf but single

guys, those are implants right?

>>33294838
He's single if you're hot enough and leave him alone long enough to deal with his 7 other gfs+ hookups behind your back.

>>33294835
NTA
> I live in the house though and they're gonna drag me out to help and eat with them, I can't really avoid it kek
I would not be surprised if you somehow found a way to not show up to your own house

>>33294826
Oh that’s nice, not really something I can relate to but the song still fucks. The chorus is too catchy.

>>33294839
her pecs just got activated due to lifting arm
why do you even give a shit

>>33294839
idk, they don't look overly fake or anything

>>33294833
>JUST DATE HER AGAIN
But I'll be miserable if I do

>>33294839
Thanks for the armpit shot

>>33294839
fake boobs don't really fall to the side like that

>>33294839
Most likely yes. And they're pretty sizeable ones too. She's perpetually looking for cock.

>>33294835
>I live in the house though and they're gonna drag me out to help and eat with them, I can't really avoid it kek
Yes you can anon. They do not take you seriously because you taught them there's no need to. Trust me, if you scared the shit out of them by getting actually angry, they would be more careful in the future.

People learn through consequences and if you teach them there's zero consequences to treating you like a doormat, that's what you wiill get, unfortunately.

>and she got mad so I'm gonna see her anyway
Fuck this man. So you are rewarding her for not caring what you want or seeing your point.

>better than bedrotting
Oftentimes yes it works this way, doing something is better than nothing, even if you don't enjoy it that much. In this case though, you are again giving yourself the message that it's not important what you want. That is undermining behavior. Realize nobody around you will change or treat you differently until you change yourself.

Should I date the hot guy or should I go for a bitter virgin 4chan user instead?

>>33294841
>found a way to not show up to your own house
I mean I'd totally stay out at the pub or something or just walking but then I have to make up an alibi it's just not worth it
They know that I realistically have nothing better to do and therefore would be avoiding them kek

>have childhood friend
>still talk to him
>refuses to tell me what he does for work
>refuses to tell me anything about his family
>hides from me and runs off after we hang out so I can’t find out where he lives
men are so weird wtf

>>33294851
Talk to the other women currently dating him and see if you can fit in.

>>33294852
See you’re already scheming

>>33294836
Honestly yeah if you actively hate life being on dating apps will both be depressing (you even more) and pointless, better to invest in yourself more first. And not in the "hit the gym and level up" sense but just enjoying your own life more (which can but doesn't have to include gym time).

>>33294851
the bitter incel ofc, they are bitter because they are better than all the normies, so if you are wise, you fuck them because they are the cream if the crop and thats why they don‘t belong, not because they are the bottom of the barrel, thats a lie made up by the seething NPC that got mogged into oblivion

>>33294834
What are you suppoed to do, date people you would not be able to hold conversation with? Nichemaxxing is good, you stick out more for girls that you would be most compatible with you.

>>33294853
Maybe he's embarrassed and you're making it worse.

>>33294853
he hates his life because it sucks and he thinks you will block him if you find out

>>33294839
Yes

>>33294857
I have to admit I was only ever on there for the validation anyway. And now I'm posting here for validation, hello

Fuck me what am I doing man

>>33294859
No, you don't. Not on dating apps, where women's swiping strategy is the exact same across the board.

>>33294863
loop glitch aah moment

>>33294853
>>33294860
>>33294861
This, most likely it's shame. Stop probing and try to work around it. He does not want you to know. Respect it or cut him loose.

>>33294850
>scared the shit out of them by getting actually angry
I'm not gonna get angry at them and make waves though lol
>So you are rewarding her for not caring what you want or seeing your point
Well tbf I'm being a flake cause I agreed to go and am now backing out. So I'm just gonna suck it up and go
Lol I'm also agreeing to do shit for my mother rn too, fml
Also my niece and her bf are still at the house eating all the food so I wanna go out anyway
>Realize nobody around you will change or treat you differently until you change yourself
Yeah this is true
Maybe one day I'll be less of a doormat
>>33294853
Bro is prolly just ashamed of being a loser desu
>>33294855
Nah no scheming kek just demeaning

>>33294277 (OP)
women : do you link the style ? (from chatgpt after I gave him a selfie of him, trying to represent me) Why ?
It isn't perfectly accurate and I think it's better in reality.
Should I change my style and become more normal to get more chance irl ? (men and women)

>>33294863
Everyone wants validation from time to time. All the more if life is hard/disappointing overall. There's nothing disturbing about that as long as you can see it for what it is.

>>33294864
Less than 100% of women deploy this strategy, and I'm not aiming for them anyway. It worked 2 times for me anyway, and I'm average looking autist

>>33294871
The style is fine, looks good to me, but every guy I have actually met who looked like this was into poly relationships and "broad spirituality".

>>33294853
And to be honest I've done the same when I ran into a childhood friend. She seemed keen to talk to me and I knew she'd eventually ask what I do and where I live. Had to dip immediately and I even considered closind my Facebook account so that she couldn't reach me there.

>>33294871
white people larping with eastern religions always make me cringe, the hair is nice, the fit is monk like, can be nice if you are hot and around the right people but if you make it too religious, it will be cringe
most people would probably not want to bring you to family christmas because it seems like you would make things weird, so if you want to be more easily digestible, just dress normal

>>33294851
>hot guy
>bitter virgin 4chan user
Why not both
>>33294871
Bro left the house in his mum's nightgown and tied her scarf aroud his waist lol
The necklace and tote back too... this is peak hippie grandma core

Did you rike the Beths episode?
https://mega.nz/file/QlE2xJgY#HdqXJ2xCr8xDkgR4VMIEEOHSGoZZeK-4YJ8o8wDMI98

>>33294881
> Why not both
Amazing idea

>>33294277 (OP)
Women,
Do you like getting picked up?
How heavy are you?
How heavy do you want your partner to be?

>>33294882
labaronoscopy

>>33294882
Rick and Morty went to shit after season 2 imo
>>33294888
Probably not desu he probably has serious issues

>>33294889
no
idk, too much probably
bout 180lbs seems ideal

Hi can i get one advice pls

>>33294889
Nah I do not enjoy being picked up whatsoever.

>How heavy
Around 140 lbs.

>How heavy do you want your partner to be?
Doesn't matter. I love chub but also have a soft spot for frail, androgynous guys (or girls for that matter). I care more that they feel good in their own skin and rock their individual look than what that look is.

>>33294895
[one advice]

>>33294895
Yes, state your question. Or do you want a general life tip?

>>33294896
>care more that they feel good in their own skin and rock their individual look
It's overfm for insecurecels

>>33294889
No. I'm 125 pounds, and idc what my partner weighs as long as it's a healthy weight.

>>33294899
General!

>>33294896
yeah, frail people are definitely going to feel good in their skin when everything's about fitness and muscles and being masculine.

>>33294904
try sleeping in your bed the wrong way around tonight

>>33294909
That sounds scary. Feels unsafe to not be facing the door when sleeping

>>33294855
I will try keep you posted anyway on the trainwreck that is my life, for your amusement

>>33294912
exactly
do it

>>33294808
Wtf games are you playing, I've never seen that

>>33294904
You're getting two because it's that kind of day.

>if you want something from someone
Asking well, knowing how to really ask for something, is an underrated skill. A lot of people hate asking for favors and the result is that when they do ask, they sound kind of sour or even passive aggressive (...would you MIND?) which makes people unwilling and defensive.

Everyone likes being the hero. If you can phrase your need in such a way that they feel powerful and generous by being able to help out, they will do it and what's more, they will enjoy it too. Basically making them feel like they are giving something rather than losing something - losing something makes you feel snubbed and happily giving makes you feel rich and powerful.

>when in trivial conflict with people you cannot avoid (coworkers, neighbors, in-laws)
Literally pretend you are retarded and do not notice it's there. They give you side eye when you enter the room and you give a chirpy "hey hello!". Say kind, upbeat things in passing ("wonderful weather, right? have a good weekend!"). Of course do not do it so much that it feels passive aggressive, just the amount you would with someone who treats you normally. In my experience 90-99% of the time this makes people thaw because sooner or later they start feeling really shitty about their own attitude in comparison to yours. Even if they still feel they were justified not to like you, they start feeling like an unfriendly person and nobody wants that.

Then if they do respond positively to you, you reward them by being as friendly and warm as you possibly can (assuring them you are not interested in holding grudges and long happy to get along) and they will be thankful for that and relieved and not rarely this turns into straight up really liking you.

>>33294805
I‘ve done it before when I want to get shat on for no reason and then slay them all. Pretty entertaining.

>>33294908
It's possible. My bf is morbidly obese and he feels good in his skin (and he would love to lose weight, too). Just like there are many people that fit all of society's norms and still do not feel good about themselves at all.

>>33294913
I appreciate it. Truly. It’s like watching a bad soap opera

>>33294919
Thanks :)

Why do women have such specific tastes in men? Men are usually told they're the ""visual"" ones because we don't like obese women but other than that we're open. Women first of all if you're under 6' you're not even in consideration.

>>33294921
if you're obese too and he's content with the relationship then there are no more insecurities for him to worry about.

>>33294277 (OP)
I've got a wicked morning wood and nobody to share it with

>>33294889
Yes. 118lbs roughly. I don’t really care but I’d prefer the healthy weight range for their height.

>>33294928
I overhead press your weight for sets of 5.

>>33294927
Suck your own dick

>>33294924
Not even 6' anymore, they figured out that some 5'11 ones claim that they're 6' to bypass the filter, so they raised the minimum to like 6'2 or 6'3.

>>33294926
What? Of course there are. He is afraid of developing health issues in the near future. He still resents the idea of others looking down on him or seeing him as lazy/undisciplined. He still remembers being a chubby kid and being bullied over it. He is physically uncomfortable in his skin in the sense that he hates getting hot all the time and the extra weight is hard on his joints if he wants to be active all day.

Your body is for life, it's who you are, of course someone being really into you does a lot in terms of reassurance but it's just a part of living in your body.

>>33294876
I'm not into poly relationships at all. And indeed most people witha a hippie style are leftist.
It's true I'm pen spiritually, yet I'm only into hinduism and orthodox christianity personnaly.

>>33294881
>nightgown ?
>her scarf
It's not accurate, I use a longer benares fabric with inscriptions. Also, it's not a tote-bag but an indian cross bag given by my indian pandit.
Why does hippie means grandma ? I Because it's now old ?

>>33294880
I don't think it's larp when it's authentic. And I think when you believe it surely with wisdom and not stupidely, act on it, are traditional and coherent, then I think it's not just larp but true. I'm really and seriously into hinduism.
In social settings people like me but of course I talk a lot about religion but also mostly because people ask me questions about it. I don't think I never made things weird, but sometimes it's the atheist that try to mock me and make things weird. Usually I get along most people though. I know how to disagree politely and in a fun way.
Anyway it means you think my style is too religious ? You think your impression is how people would see it ?

>>33294929
Use me instead

>>33294825
>You didn't enter a contract
I know deep down that I can simply say no to these things, and decline meeting up with her or getting involved in the BBQ etc., but I feel like I don't have a good enough reason to, and it's mostly my depression telling me no
Also she scares me and I do feel like her property desu
>>33294922
Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction...
What would a bad soap opera be then? A detergent drama? A handwash hullabaloo? A shampoo soliloquy?

>>33294919
>they start feeling really shitty about their own attitude in comparison to yours
lmfao, I‘ve done that to at least two people - works like a charm

>>33294926
Also I'm only reading the start of your post properly now but no, I'm not obese or even chubby myself and I don't really see how that is relevant either. I guess you mean if we both were then there would be no risk for me to leave him because I couldn't do "better", but that is ignoring there would still be many many other obese men I could go for instead of him.

>>33294930
Not possible

>>33294941
You just don’t want it enough

>>33294940
>not obese or even chubby myself
>dating a morbidly obese guy
Are you a feeder or is he rich or something?
Does not compute

>>33294882
You mean the racism episode

>>33294871
>Should I change my style and become more normal to get more chance irl ? (men and women)
How fuck I figured it could mean that I interested in men and women, but I meant that I'm interested to know the answer to that question from men and women. What a shame, the devil's mocking me kek I'm not bisexual at all, not even approoving that and homosexuality

>>33294936
I'd like to

>>33294931
6'4" is the new ideal height and that's not why foids did it. Most younger zoomers in Europe and USA are 6ft now, so it's nothing special anymore.

>>33294804
I mean it's an exaggeration for rethoric's sake but I don't think it's a completely unreasonable thing to say that men deviate more from the average than women who tend to be more communal and alike.
At least that is my experience.
On the sexy thing men rarely want to feel sexy or desirable, that's more of a women thing mainly because women seldom show outward attraction like men do (and the men they do it for are basically 1 in a thousand). But of course it's about liking how you look and being satisfied with your work paying off.

>>33294946
nta, I did overhear my housemates watching one episode of Rick and Morty recently though and liked the joke about having to suck Rick's dick/balls or something to save the planet, nice nod to Doc and Mharti kek

>>33294935
My first post could imply I'm interested by men and women, but no, I'm interested by the answer to my question from men and women....

>>33294924
Why are women so fucking obsessed with height anyway?

>>33294945
Yeah I guess you'd call me a feeder, I'm not against the label but I am also fully attracted to people with other bodytypes and I sure do not actually make my bf gain weight or get involved with what he does or does not eat. So the label feels kind of off. I just never understood why most people are so turned off by fat, especially when fatty bodyparts (boobs, butts) are usually among the favorites.

Also obviously he just has many wonderful qualities but most importantly we just get each other and did from the start. He makes me laugh all the time and not just because he's funny but also because I relate to his reasoning.

He is unfortunately definitely not rich, or even close, and I'm definitely not either but hey, can't have everything right.

>>33294935
>authentic
idk, at their core, all spiritual snd religious beliefs are the same, so you can just pick the one that fits your racial background and then it will not feel so off and larpy
you can also follow the teachings without making it your aesthetic and thus making you stand out like a sore thumb
it makes it seem like your religiousness is more of a virtue signaling, it‘s not a path you walk for yourself but you specifically want others to take notice
it reeks a bit of feeling superior „look at me, I am so religious, I am not like all of you fallen creatures that follow the path of sin and ignorance“ kinda vibe
>You think your impression is how people would see it ?
Yeah, pretty much
not saying all the things I said are true about you, but thats how it can come across and I don‘t really see why you would give space to such misinterpretation when you could also instead dress modestly, simple and in your own aesthetic without making it religious
for me religion is something that should be done on the inside and show through your actions, not your clothes
that screams performative sacredness in a cringe way
but you do you, ofc

Anons I’ve done it!

>>33294957
Lol

>>33294954
NTA
We aren’t as obsessed with it as you think we are

>>33294957
I kneel

>>33294954
My theory is that they just like saying no to men so they set high standards until they settle

>>33294957
What on earth

>>33294931
>5'11"
Almost made it.

Short kings rise up (not literally).

>>33294949
I used to be right at the filter, now I'm short. Went to a concert and a lot of zoomers were taller and the vast majority of them had gym bodies.

>>33294946
the loli episode

>>33294963
that sounds like a fake profile made by some incel that is trying to prove a point that if you are tall you can say any shit you like and get pussy lol

>>33294963
I dunno, if I were a chick, I'd be intrigued.

This guy's either a world class liar or he knows exactly what game he's playing.

>>33294963
I KNEEL

>>33294955
>never understood why most people are so turned off by fat, especially when fatty bodyparts (boobs, butts) are usually among the favorites
Same here desu, based, my ex is thicc and I found it hot
Anyway you sound like a cool person and happy couple, godspeed <3
>>33294966
Bruh...
Not seen this but lil Beth seems like daughteru material desu

>>33294968
this is exactly the sort of shit you say if you get no bitches

>>33294950
>On the sexy thing men rarely want to feel sexy or desirable
Can't really agree with this, in my 15 years of internet I have seen endless "what do women like", "what is the male equivalent to lingerie", "what can I as a man do/wear to get female attention" questions. Including openly lamenting that they want to feel like the prize sometimes, too, not just the winner.

I mean I have had quite some friends and the gender split there is fairly equal, but for me it still hardly feels like a worthwhile sample size for saying whether either men or women are more "communal". I have also definitely known lots of women who might not have been special "on paper" (like standard studies, work, hobbies) but were extremely unique or even odd in their life priorities, the topics they enjoyed thinking about and so on. Not everyone who is weird or special is recognizable as such and a lot of people actively downplay their own weirdness.

All I can say is I have known a lot of women with unique interests, viewpoints etc. Hell one of my best friends is a fanatic woodworker who makes her own puppets for educational shows to help children process emotions through artisic mediums... She even sews the dolls' clothing herself, too.

>>33294968
>intrigued by a seething incel trying to score some fuck meat to confirm his bias
I thought you are supposed to be smart

>>33294957
>>33294963
The Chadsexual incek strikes again.

>>33294967
>>33294968
His profile picture is a football player at our school lol

>>33294963
based chad holy

>>33294977
lmfaooooo so fake
please fuck with him until he throws a tantrum

>>33294977
Big 10 btw so not a small flex, if it’s real

>>33294960
>ask women to rate men the tallest one will always be the most attractive
>ask women to rate importance of physical traits height is always #1
>most requested feature for dating apps is height filter
yea

>>33294971
>Same here desu, based, my ex is thicc and I found it hot
Ahh thick women are amazing too, yes. So plush. Apart from the look I also feel being with someone whose body squishes up against yours just adds another level of feeling enveloped. Makes me feel like a Christmas card snugly inside a perfectly fitted envelope.

Thanks for the kind sentiment, I wish you the best as well and may there be many thick ladies in your future!

>>33294982
I’ve seen a couple of the real football and basketball players profiles on my tinder but I’ve never swiped right so idk

>>33294983
yeah because short men are insufferable because all they do is whine and bitch and be insecure, just look at you
before men got obsessed with height and made it so that they totally disintegrated when they are under 6 foot, it was a non issue

>>33294922
I'm also getting drunk before meeting her to make myself more open dude, sorry to that other anon who told me not to get drunk, but desperate times call for desperate measures
Will also get plastered before BBQ and do some dumb tricks in the garden like juggling over the fire to entertain ppl

Men, do you think that you guys can truly compromise on not wanting kids? Or does a man want what he wants and he's just feeding me lip service until he can find his future wife

>>33294977
You still need to match with him for the chance to potentially fuck that foodball player at your school tonight.

>>33294983
Look we just want to physically look upwards at our man that’s all

>>33294990
I‘ve heard from at least three people irl that they were dead set on never having kids until they met him/her, take that as you want.

>>33294990
What would a "compromise" on having kids or not even look like?

>>33294990
What do you mean by compromise? I've made up my mind a while ago. The choice is mine alone.

>>33294956
That's indeed a plausible explanation. But at the same time I don't thin religion is supposed to be private and secret and that what can't have virtue expression of religiosity. And religiosity isn't a show of superiority in any way. Of course religion =/= virtue so religion =/= virtue signaling. But indeed it's expressly in contradiction with faithless believes and people, by definition, and It's a good thing that I oppose that and express my religion.
I also dress oriental because it's nice and even if at the core, religions talk about God, they don't express Him as good as the others, some are better and more clear, some are false religions from false gurus, etc... so I'm specifically attached to hinduism as the most perfect expression of the primordial tradition, translated differently in imperfect ways elsewhere too of course. I don't dress simply because I like the style, it's practical (I can and do sleep in my woolen fabric, so like the old pilgrims, and indeed I want to be religious outside, because that's what I am inside, that's who I am. And I don't like pants and overly simple clothes.

>>33294991
I swiped left because he’s not my type and the football thing is clearly fake because it’s not even a picture of his face just him tackling

>>33294989
Don’t. What is wrong with you?

>>33294924
What am I meant to do if I'm presented 100 men? Just have orgasmless sex with all of them instead of filtering?

>>33294974
>

>>33294990
It's an instinct.

But no, you can't really dissuade anyone of their desire for children. If you dont want them, being upfront is the best strategy.

Just be prepared to accept that most men want to be fathers as a matter of base impulse.

ITS TOO DAMN HOT
also remind me to hit up the hardware store today

>>33294950
Men absolutely want to feel sexy and desirable, it's just so rare that most men don't bother pursuing it. I remember talking to a lady that did the marriage counseling in my old church and she had her "guilt trip" questions for men and women and one for women was literally "when was the last time you complimented your husband's appearance"

>>33294872
The amount of validation I crave is a bit sad but I get what you mean.

>>33294983
Maybe because y’all keep bitching and moaning about it. Personally, my most ideal height range would be between 5’5 and 5’9

>>33294990
>compromise on not wanting kids
What the actual fuck did they/them mean by this

>>33294988
looks like anon is
>100% right
>struck a nerve
they always lash out like this when you confront them about the heightpill

>>33294995
>>33294999
As in we never have children because I don't want them but he always did but claims it's fine

>>33295002
>What is wrong with you?
Where do I start bro
Anyway I'm only a bit tipsy and walking to hers
Gonna help her tidy then cook and then we gon go on a walk and stuff

>>33294990
it depends on why they don‘t want kids
usually people‘s reasons are a combination of feeling like they are not fit to be a parent, kids being a burden financially, ok the relationship, in general and a huge responsibility and take away from their own comfort and freedom, or being hopeless for the world/the future and thus feeling like it would be cruel to bring a child into this
usually those reasons dissolve as people get more stable in life, stop being edgy immature doomers, grow out of feeling sorry for themselves for their parents not having been perfect and having „fucked them up“, and start to feel like life is worth it and it would not be the end of the world to trade seeing the one they love holding their little baby for going out for sinner with friends again after it got boring three dears ago
basically, if you know why someone does or does not want kids, you can strategically change how they feel about it if you are smart about it

I’ve met so many men on this website that say stuff like
>wait girls actually like our bodies?
>wait you actually are attracted to dick? I though it was fake
Why are men so clueless to women’s sexuality?

>>33295009
Lol

>>33295011
>failure to understand generalization and exceptions to the rule
>failure to understand cause and effect
why do women?

>>33295016
What a narcissistic disrespectful point of view

>>33295000
Religion is an extended phenotypic affect.

Humans with a predisposition to produce endorphins/dopamine in surges or DMT during visionary emotional states in the presence of collectively held fantasies are simply more likely to reproduce than those who have no reaction to the same symbols.

Our monkey ancestors conceptualized reality in terms of memory fragments. They represented ideas with fantasies instead of words. So, how do you think about the tribe, about reality itself? Well, it's kind of like a grandfather monkey is sitting at the center of the known universe (perimeter of the tribe) and everyone tells him everything (hierarchical information disseminating) so he seems to know everything...

He makes all the big decisions, etc.

Religion is a breeding mechanisms.

>>33295017
But men do have the generic default NPC body and I've only ever been disappointed by flesh penises

>>33295017
Because most of the times it feels like they really don't tho.

>>33295017
Because they never act like it

>>33295021
bugman

>>33295015
Good luck. Have fun self sabotaging.

>>33295017
This is what happens when you get 0 female attention and every single woman acts indifferent towards you lil bro

>>33295014
That's not a compromise, that's just him letting go of a dream. I don't know how old you are. But if you are like <27 then yes expect his feelings to change once more and more of his friends and siblings start having kids and it is no longer just the concept, he can actually see what he misses out on.

If you are very young (like <25) as shitty as it is there is also a significant risk that he is just saying what you want to hear because he deep down thinks every single woman will want kids once her biological clock starts ticking, so he is just biding his time hoping for you to change your mind.

>>33295017
probably because you're in a thread full of low-self esteem virgins who've received little attention from women

>>33295008
Real, walking in the sun rn roasting
Also get that hardware bro, hopefully you got a cool garage or smth to work

>>33294924
The greater male variability
Women are more same, so men have developed a more standardized taste
Men are more diverse, so women have evolved to have more quirky and niche tastes, they are also more bisexual and tolerate trannies a bit better than men do

Whenever a men stands close enough to me that I can physically and very clearly see the height difference I kinda feel like deer in the headlights like I’m just a bit frozen

>>33295017
Because men are uncomfortable with being sexualized, I don't mean personally but as a whole.

Like imagine a mainstream movie where instead of seeing a woman's nipples poke through a shirt, you get a long shot of a man's bulge, him stretching and the happy trail being filmed from so close it's like you can touch it.

Men don't want to see that shit. It would make them feel uncomfortable. It would make them want to call it gay.

Men want for a woman to like him personally, not men as a whole and most definitely not men he perceives as ugly/unworthy/gross. So that means women are discouraged fom expressing attraction to men as a whole.

>>33295025
Don't you have some /pol/ thread to write >le tips

No God.

Just fantasies.

Sorry, kid.

>>33295017
>Why are men so clueless to women’s sexuality
Bc I'm nearly a wizard and no woman has had sex with me, and I used to be way fitter and just I just look in the mirror and look skinnyfat and gross
So i don't believe this shit desu
>>33295026
Nah dude I'm gonna help her with some shit and then will be le clown at the BBQ later
I have everyone laffin last time
Also I hope my witch bitch friend is there and brought a voodoo doll or smth

>>33294988
I like this one because it's inverting the culpability and it's funny.
>>33294993
That's most men, really it's more about you wanting to be on tiptoes to kiss which means 6' and up.

>>33295036
Boo

>>33295040
>reddit spacing

>>33295039
You're absolutely and completely retared. What the fuck does seeing a guy's bulge in a movie has to do with men feeling like women don't like male bodies? Stop projecting your reluctant gay fantasies.

>>33295014
It's not really my place to say, but I think this will become a problem in the future if you don't address it now.

>>33295021
>>33295040
Aren't you the guy who got jannied for saying tarded shit yesterday?

>>33295042
>it's more about you wanting to be on tiptoes to kiss which means 6' and up.

You can’t shame us for something so objectively hot

>>33294983
>>33294988
>i don't even want to date tall guys it's short guys that are making me do it
Is the flag of your country white and blue perchance?

>>33295036
Some tips.
>platform shoes
>backing away with the excuse that you prefer this for eye contact reasons
>if he actually stands too close make a joke about him blocking your sunlight
>think of a strategy in case stuff goes wrong, like if you are much shorter you are probably the perfect height to sucker punch his lower stomach if all hell breaks loose and knowing what to do in a worst case scenario can be really calming

This is assuming it's anxiety and not fluttery feelings.

>>33295039
nah this is quite off the mark

>>33295039
You've got a point.

I remember feeling pretty uncomfortable after my first one night stand.

I was like "Oh, she's cool, we can be freinds, for sure..." and then she's literally showing me to the damn door 10 minutes after I'd sent her to the moon.

Made me realize that most women do this at least once just to prove to themselves they can bag and discard a hot guy.

Can't blame em. Slay, queens.

>>33295036
>women still prefer if a man makes them feel like this to a man who feels "safe"

>>>/gif/29061155
Women do you do this

>>33295045
>already going "no homo" over the mere hypothetical
Way to prove my point man.

I feel I made it pretty clear in the post: women are used to and comfortable with seeing sexualized images of women, even if they are straight, like intense close ups of cleavage or poking nipples.

Men are not comfortable with the equivalent. That applies to movies but it also applies to women just being vocal about what (different) kind(s) of men they love, what they love during sex, what they love about the male body. It will not make them see her as sexy the way a woman will usually tolerate or even enjoy a guy openly being a woman fiend.

So women downplay their attraction to men and act like men do not move them sexually, unless they are really drunk, alone with each other or already in bed with a man.

I'm also a woman myself and also talking from personal experience.

>>33295056
I would if I had a stuffed animal that big.

>>33295047
Nah you're thinking of some other 300 IQ giga-genius who's too lazy to find more reaction images.

Common mistake.

I'm only 299 IQ.

>>33295017
Most women say they don't like dick at all they just like how it's used, and that male bodies don't do anything for them and aren't attractive like womens'.

>>33294965
Yeah, foids are more brutal than ever now. I need to find a young bitch from Asia or South America. I stopped bothering with working out when I realized it won't fix my height and face. Huge waste of time doing anything more than the minimum to stay healthy.

>>33295054
>fucking girl that does ONS
>why is she like this
>damn, all women must be like this
uh ok

>>33295061
Okay, MKG Jr

>>33295063
Women care waaaaay more about personality and power than you think.

I'm hot as all fuck and women can't stand me.

>>33295017
Because I don't talk to women?

>>33295061
what did you get banned for?

>>33295068
>>33295061
>>33295054
the attentionfags here get worse every fucking week

>>33295068
I wonder why lol

>>33295032
I'm far from a virgin and I do plenty of the looksmaxx stuff from exercise to skin care, even women who do want to fuck you rarely if ever say anything nice about your body or physical traits, most men infamously go years without compliments even in relationships and the complaint is common enough that I don't really accept the common deflection that "you just need to hang out with better women!" or that "everyone who says this must just be some kind of incel!" it's just flat out untrue and I don't get what is gained by trying to gaslight everyone about this.

>>33295072
My dicks too big.

>>33295073
I've been here since before you could read, son.

This is my website.

>>33294941
Just squeeze your butt cheeks and go for a walk and or do body stretches

>>33295077
how old are you?

>>33295049
I care that you are like that because it means I'll die alone but it's something I can live with, what I find annoying is when you deny it or pretend it's because of some imagined personality flaw that apparently every short man in the planet shares and no tall man has.

>>33295080
Late 20s.

>>33295083
So even younger than MKG, our regular pseud

>>33295083
have you always posted in atoga or is this a new thing?

Do you ever think about how weird it is humans are made of two different sexes with completely different sexualities? Why on earth is it biologically advantageous for me to have an uncontrollably positive emotional response to feeling weak and dominated over? That doesn’t made sense, shouldn’t we should reproduce like sponges or something? Why are we animals?

>>33295058
Again, I don't know why, according to you, being uncomfortable at seeing sexualized images of guys means that men are equally uncomfortable when being sexualized by a woman. That's not how it works.

>I'm also a woman myself and also talking from personal experience.

Then I'm afraid you don't really understand what most men think about it.

>>33295087
because you aren‘t functioning properly, if things go as they should, it‘s very compatible

>>33295086
Oh, no, I only started posting here like... 7 months ago?

I've been a regular on /lit/ and /sci/ forever.

I'm the fuckin booogeyman over at /math/.

>>33294973
>Can't really agree with this, in my 15 years of internet I have seen endless "what do women like", "what is the male equivalent to lingerie", "what can I as a man do/wear to get female attention" questions. Including openly lamenting that they want to feel like the prize sometimes, too, not just the winner.
Appealing to women of course because every man wants to date and have sex but feeling desired is a weird emotion for men to deal with (because we literally almost never experience it) and trying to get women to do that is a fool's errand lol. Most of the time you lift to feel good about yourself and impress your other male friends which are the only ones that will compliment your abs.
On the other topic I think there's some studies on male variability and such that I think can explain this. It's the same reason why men rarely feel like a collective while women do. I'm not saying weird women do not exist I'm just saying the average woman is much closer to the true average than your average man.

>>33295090
lol, based

>>33295021
>are simply more likely to reproduce
kek, so random

All your "explanation" (i.e. fantasy) is so random and arbitrary.

>>33295087
It's for the genetic variation. Combining wholly different sets of genetic material is better than staying close to home or creating offspring independently (so cloning more or less).

>That doesn't make sense
It does, evolutionarily speaking a man being impressive and dominating was literally the single most important thing. Both for protecting you and the offspring and because in nature the only confident ones are the ones actually healthy and strong so the ones that can wield their strength and impose it on others are apparently doing well, a healthy partner.

Why do women become pornstars or cam whores?

>>33295089
Wait im not supposed to submit?

>>33295087
You will not find the answer through a purely biological explanation. Sex goes beyond the animal instinct to reproduce, otherwise it would be as you say - reproduction like the sponge.

>>33295087
Apparently, in this way we achieve a balance between the stability of our genome and mutations that can further evolve us

>>33295017
The overwhelming majority of women talk about their attraction to men at best as an annoyance and at worst as an actual curse. It's also a very common thing for women to say that men aren't attractive as a whole and that the male body is less aesthetic than the female body.
Are there cultural reasons for this? Almost assuredly but don't be surprised. For the average man women are basically something to be conquered and something to be "forced" into liking you since no woman is EVER going to show attraction towards you right off the bat unless you have model looks.

>>33295088
>being uncomfortable at seeing sexualized images of guys means that men are equally uncomfortable when being sexualized by a woman.
I already made a distinction that men do want to be sexualized privately once they are with a girl. They just do not want to hear men as a group being sexualized. Especially if you are an inexperienced guy and you have never had a woman all over you privately, this means it's possible that you never at all saw a woman horny for men/a man. Whereas as a woman even if you're a thirty year old virgin, simply consuming media there is no fucking way to miss that men are sexually drawn to women.

>>33295087
estrogen promotes submissiveness, you are either a woman or a man with hormonal dysfunction

>>33295095
Money, desperation, emotional/mental issues, validation

>>33295093
What the hell do they teach you kids in school nowadays?

Did you learn about Darwin?

>>33295096
not like this, not without putting up a fight, or only answering to someone worth submitting to
being submissive by default is unnatural and a sign of brokenness

>>33295102
But why? Out in the wilderness, before modern safety, should both sexes want to be dominant 24/7 so we both are safe from threats?

>>33295106
I’m broken?

>>33295091
>It's the same reason why men rarely feel like a collective while women do.
Women feel this way because there has been about seventy years of feminism telling us that despite being all different individuals, we do share some life experiences or political interests in common.

One of the issues for it taking off initially was that it took a long time for women to identify with the "women" label as an identity. Just like it took Marx a long time to make people feel in the same boat simply for all being workers, when people were used to distinguishing based on wholly different aspects.

>>33295108
you are using willingly submitting to anyone that will have you to try and artificially create a sense of being safe and taken care of, it would only be healthy to submit after you feel that way

Finally got a new job and gave my notice.

The intention was to give them two weeks, but I think they are under the impression that I’d work 3. I told them my start date is the beginning of next month but I have a vacation planned for the last week of this month.
They said they aren’t sure what the next few weeks look like for me (I have a big manager role) but they’ll touch base by the end of the week.


I really just want to give them two weeks though. How do I go back and clarify / state this?

>>33295087
>>33295098
>In some species of flatworms, an animal can inject sperm directly through its partner's body surface. Scientists call this "hypodermic insemination". The first to stab becomes the father; the other bears the responsibility of motherhood. Mating then becomes a battle, commonly known as penis fencing. In some instances the fencing battle can last up to an hour. Some species even have more than one penis, making a more intense battle. The winner is the flatworm that successfully injects its sperm. The loser has battle wounds and carries the fertilized eggs - until the next encounter with another of its kind.
This is the origin of sex differentiation. Among other things, we evolved from hermaphroditic worms like those. Apparently, the development of specialized builds for impregnation and being pregnant was the most optimal way.

>>33295058
I disagree, it's largely an ego thing where women don't really consider their partner's perspective on most things and think that their mere presence is compliment enough.

>>33295099
>since no woman is EVER going to show attraction towards you
But men keep saying it's whorish and immoral and should only be done towards 1 male in a woman's lifetime

>>33295109
both feminism's "woman as a political identity" and marx's "international proletariat" are artificial and deliberately divisive political weapons. They had to be forced upon people to override man's strongest instinct for his blood and tribe.

>>33295113
Yeah why don’t humans do penis battles?

>>33295116
they say that because they all want to be that one man every woman shows attraction to

>>33295115
You can disagree and at the end of the day you can never be sure. But let me say as a woman who used to be more open about what I enjoyed about men, guys side-eyeing you, making nervous jokes about you being a slut/weirdo etc is a real thing. One of the main reasons I started posting here so much is because I could just talk about my love for men/sex without judgment.

>>33295116
That really is an interesting position to be in.

I wonder if what defines an alpha male is the realization that what matters most to women is their children?

>>33295116
can you be a little less disingenuous with your argument?

>>33295100

>I already made a distinction that men do want to be sexualized privately once they are with a girl.

You have literally no idea about what men would really like or not. Men like being sexualized when they're with a girl, that's true. But if a random girl approached and said "nice arms/abs/butt/whatever sexual comment", it'd make the guy's week.

>They just do not want to hear men as a group being sexualized

And thinking that they don't want to hear men as a group being sexualized is retarded, specially because they BELONG in that group. Hearing a woman saying that she finds veiny forearms or a short stubble or whatever sexy would really make a guy who has those glad.

>Especially if you are an inexperienced guy and you have never had a woman all over you privately, this means it's possible that you never at all saw a woman horny for men/a man

And what would make a man more receptive to reciprocate than knowing that the woman finds him, or some trait common to men that he has, sexy?

>Whereas as a woman even if you're a thirty year old virgin, simply consuming media there is no fucking way to miss that men are sexually drawn to women.

Yeah, it's the opposite with men. We aren't told that male bodies are attractive just being themselves. Women don't chase us, we're not the prize... sometimes it feels like women are making you a favour by deigning to touch your body. And you think that a man wouldn't like to hear that a random girl, no matter who she is, finds something about him sexually desirable?

>>33295100
Maybe 30 years ago things were different, but in modern mass media made in the US men are overwhelmingly sexualized more than the women are, the only issue men have ever had with it is the rank hypocrisy demonstrated by women over the issue, no man has ever been angry that a woman likes the dudes from Magic Mike. To the extent a lot of guys in this thread are complaining men do see fictional men sexualized routinely but even Chad never gets told "nice pecs" irl except by another guy lol

>>33295118
Too exhausting and traumatic, it's easier to be born with a specific build

>>33295108
If you're a chick then that's fine
>>33295107
Why can't we all shoot laser beams from our eyes and breathe underwater. Evolution is about trade-offs and the tradeoff of men being dominant and strong is women being submissive and weak.

>>33295122
The wolf hierarchy thing is so stupid, you’re not an alpha leading a pack into the hunt, you’re a hairless ape who works in an office

>>33295126
nta but just say you are a femboy and want to get fucked in the ass

>>33295117
>artificial
Doesn't really mean anything to me in this context. Culture is artificial, that's the point, it's what our humanity has overimposed upon nature. That doesn't mean it's meaningless or should be ignored or anything else. A new way to look at things (so construed and artificial) can help you see with new eyes or notice things that were hard to notice in the line of thinking you were used to.

The trick is not to start taking any way to look at reality for absolute gospel that cannot be questioned, to realize it's just a lens to look at reality and not reality itself.

>>33295124
You're upset but you don't disagree. Would you prefer a man-loving wife who often approaches random men to express attraction and sexual desire? Or a wife who has never expressed desire or interest in men before you?

>>33295108
Only broken people post nudes on 4chan.

>>33295121
What do you love about men?

>>33295121
What do you love about men

>>33294289
Him

>>33295116
Chicken and egg problem honestly but even in relationships women will still rarely express their attraction.
The cultural perception is generally that men are very attracted to women and women just happen to tolerate men, both physically and personality-wise.

>>33294296
>for their bf
That part

>>33295113
This is how cherubs reproduce in Homestuck

>>33295127
>>33295129
It feels kinda unfair though right? Like I’m just supposed to get eaten by wolves or something because I’m meant to birth?

>>33295142
hi fellow homestuck fren

>>33295125
>But if a random girl approached and said "nice arms/abs/butt/whatever sexual comment", it'd make the guy's week.
Yes, but you are still citing an example of a guy getting personal, individualized attention. My point is not that guys would scoff at that. My point is that if there's two guys standing there and you go up to guy A saying "nice butt!", guy B will see you as less appealing for it. That does not apply to women in that same way, that they are put off by seeing the evidence of sexual attention that excludes them or at least is not just about them.

>specially because they BELONG in that group. Hearing a woman saying that she finds veiny forearms or a short stubble or whatever sexy would really make a guy who has those glad.
Again you are saying two things: that men enjoy hearing women sexualize men as a whole and that they would enjoy it IF they fit her voiced preference. So they would not enjoy hearing a woman gush over tall men if they are short. They would not enjoy a woman saying she wants to bite any abs she sees when they do not have abs. So if as a woman you want to make sure you don't alienate anyone into liking you less, you shut up until alone with someone and complimenting them specifically.

>your last line
Man you are STILL claiming that I was saying men simply do not want for a woman to like him, which I never did and is obviously retarded. I said from the very first post they want love for them but ONLY for them. So yes that impacts how much evidence they see of women liking men in the public realm because women want to seem discrete and not slutty.

>>33295139
which is totally wrong, women have just been trained to act that way to not endanger the fragile male ego of their partner

>>33295117
>your label based on shared life experiences: fake and gay
>my label based on polities that have existed for less than 200 years: true and based on REAL human nature. also i am very rebellious i just happen to align 1:1 with the people in power on all my positions

>>33295130
Nah, I run a trading bot that sucks liquidity out of crypto.

I'm a fuckin nutcase.

Also, thanks janny. I was gonna download more reaction pics but now I don't have to lol.

God I'm so smart.

>>33295139
They're testing to see if there's anything else about them that you like.

I mean, do you like their hobbies? Do you get excited when they show you their room?

They're kids, man. Just be happy when they're happy.

>>33295143
You're supposed to live in a tribe of a dozen to a hundred other humans who will watch your back. You're not some mama bear thugging it out alone in the wilderness but you should have some protective instincts for your kids.

>>33295112
>>33295112
>>33295112
Anyone?

>>33295109
There's probably a study for someone smarter than me to do there on whether this shared "womanhood" has an effect on women seeming more similar at least at a glance. Doesn't honestly change all that much about what I'm talking about though.

>>33295152
Did you include a resignation date in the email or the phrase "two weeks?" If you didn't then yeah there is some ambiguity that you should clarify.

>>33295132
>Doesn't really mean anything to me in this context. Culture is artificial, that's the point
Ignoring the fact this argument is pure sophistry, no, culture absolutely is organic, and it stems from nature, it is not imposed on it. You can comfortably talk about culture as you do because you are a person born well after 'culture'.

>That doesn't mean it's meaningless or should be ignored or anything else.
What exactly is this in response to?

>>33295151
I wonder what it would’ve been like to be a woman in pre/early agricultural period.

>>33295156
I have not sent them an official email yet.

I went in this morning and told them I had an offer that I was planning on accepting to see if they’d try and get me to stay. But they didn’t really.
So I told them I was going to accept the job and I will write them an official letter with my finish date.

>>33295147
I mean you get into a new can of worms when women do act like that in real life. It doesn't matter if they've been trained to do that or not, the fact remains plenty of women don't even get complimented by their SO lol.

>>33295149
I love it when someone whose entire ideology is top down, socially acceptable, if not outright astroturfed, sits here trying to tell me what "people in power" actually believe. It's absolutely hilarious.

>>33295160
Gather berries and live in cave

But sometimes I wonder if I’m submissive because society tells me I’m supposed to submit

>>33295165
Jus bee yourself

>>33295162
as I said, why do you want to be treated like a girl? just put on a fembody filter and find a discord mod to tell you your feet look lickable if you need it that badly
you will realize that people commenting on your body means nothing, it‘s fucking useless

>>33295143
No, you're meant to be protected by a man so that you and your body can focus even more effectively on the process of spawning humans

>>33295164
Did consent exist before spoken language?

>>33295162
meant plenty of men*

>>33295136
Happy trails are incredible. Like a natural bold line that disappears into the pants and you know exactly where it goes. I love a full bush and how from a distance it can appear like a shadowy hand cupping the goods.

Male scents, fresh sweat, low voices, or that contrast where a guy suddenly giggles or screeches much higher than he otherwise would and you know you got a real rise out of him.

An erection pressing up against you as a woman who is used to arousal being physically not that visible, is so shamelessly blatant and out there. Dicks are incredibly fun: thankful for all attention, receptive and responsive, sturdy yet bouncy, hard yet velvety soft. Precum has an amazing taste, metallic and "real".

I love the contrasts. How men are both more goofy and playful than women (on average) and angrier, more concerned with keeping control. Seeing a guy be vulnerable - blushing or not being able to return your gaze.

I love everything I associate with men (including minor stuff like whistling) simply for that reason alone.

I love how a thin guy looks even more delicate than a thin woman (because less plush). I love how scandalous real weight/curves look on a man as opposed to a woman. I love bodyhair and beards but I also love men that are bold enough to play with their style and masculinity, that wear jewellery or make up.

You are wonderfully endearing and disarming and also often inspiring, supportive and just very much appreciated. I blab more about it than most women but most of us feel this way in one form or another - yes even the ones that often wish they didn't.

>>33295165
"Society tells" "Society teaches" is probably one of the worst ways to explain a behavior, unless you're an automaton, your desires and impulses explain it much better.

You do not develop sexual preferences through logic or through being told to like something.

>>33295143
The only women who with any innate ability for combat tend to be from far northern ass ends of the world like Scandinavia or northern Siberia, to speculate on why it's probably one of the few environments in the world where fucking the invading barbarians produced worse survival odds than just trying to help your husband kill them, and even those women don't exactly relish hunting or fighting.

>>33295170
Maybe. I'd be pretty hard to keep social cohesion when everyone is raping and hating each other.

>>33295175
this, society is this way because it emerged from instinctual preferences

>>33295165
yeah this is true
why dont you try opposing society